/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1139

>dead game
lmao

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Hi! I'm not new to the PSO2 general, but I'm new to cafe. Or rather, I started frequently visiting about two months ago. I've currently visited as 4 characters.

Bearhead, ホモ, 寝取られ, and 不平をこぼす人 (this also being my ARKS name).

I sort of have an infatuation with making characters mainly because of how versatile PSO2's costume collection is. I also enjoy socializing, and I honestly talk to people often. I like the community so far, despite the mixed reviews I've heard.

And I can't say I dislike anyone, though I can't say the same about others towards me. I'm also very lazy, and a bit of a recluse sometimes so that's why I don't lurk general much.

That aside, I've been playing since September 15th 2015, but I've had my account since 2013. I just didn't get to play it at the time. I came to PSO2 from DFO, League of Cancer, and Elsword. And PSO2 is sort of my second home now.

I also like to write... A lot.

>>149636715
dont forget vindictus nigger

>>149636539
>>149636795
Are you guys going to keep posting my character till people hate me even more?

desu though I love being hated it makes my dick like diamonds

>>149636715
Do you like to RP too?

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>>149636901

Hi im Sign Painter
say something nice to me

>>149636715
>Hyperion needed new shitposting target
>Picked Bearhead

>>149637326
i love you

>>149637326
You have a nice room

>>149637540
Why would Hyperion care about Bearhead, Bearhead?

>tfw finally get chubby c@ into myroom to erp with all night

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>>149637775
Too bad, not my post.
Don't really care much what you folk do.

I'm surprised someone actually took the time to write it. You missed Vindictus, and the dates are all wrong, are you even trying.

>>149638585
Isn't that just an edited pasta of elesis' post?

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DEAD GAME

POST DRAKES TO TRIGGER SOME VIRGINS NEETS

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>>149638893
No thanks drake
Ide rather post lobby friends

>>149638863
That Hyperion spammed? Yeah.

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>>149638893
>posting drake

>>149636715
literally
a
edit
of
the old copy pasta

WHY IS HYPERION RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING WRONG WITH MY LIFE!? WHY AM I SHIT?

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>>149639202
>thinking Hyperion isn't actually the illuminati
I'm not saying this was Hyperion's fault
I'm just saying it's pretty likely

>>149639578
We all know Hyperion runs the general and the secret Discord. Mags is the janitor after all.

testing

>>149639786
EDF runs this bitch

>>149636539
>>149629423
>>149630249
so are the mods and janitors dead or what

>>149639975
>Trying to get someone banned by reposting their pictures

nice try

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Why are all the cast females faggy little girls instead of cute mech women to go with the mech cast males?
Why are their almost no robo costumes for female cast?

>>149640124
I don't really care if anyone gets banned
It's just very strange that stuff like this has been staying up for hours now

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>>149640143
Did someone say female cats?

>>149640324
those parts look so bad...

>>149641248
Bad taste

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Tubby ruppy~
Chubby tummy~

>>149640143
There's a lot of mechagrills in lobby all the time, man. I don't know what you're complaining about.

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Good news to all those who care So no one I guess
The Arks Visiphone's Wep list are now all up to date aside from drop tables and NT variants of old weps that I will be adding in the near future.
If you see any errors feel free to fix it yourself or tell me about it here or in game.

>>149641973
kill yourself

>>149642157
nah

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>>149641973

Good Job. It feels like your slowly catching Crino in updates so hey its all good

>trying to smear the reputation of a rival TA team by framing them for hacking
Why would NA do this?

>>149642246
I just realized I'm gonna have to add set effects and drop tables are gonna lead to making pages for each enemy and other junk.
rip
If only there were other people who could help out more regularly.

>>149642478
Nobody cares what normie teams are doing

>>149642246
what anime is this from

>>149642672
I think SEES cares, though.

>>149642585
>>149641973
Nice job!
Thanks so much, keep up the good work it helps me out a lot

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>>149642765

>>149641973
You be good people grandma

>>149642246
Why did you post a ghost?

>>149642478
What are you even talking about

>>149642724
we really need more fanart of the mobs and enemies. everyone is too focused on the NPCs and player characters.

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>>149644404
Or when we do get art of an enemy with a good design, somebody just turns it into a girl so they can justify wanting to fuck it. It's so tiring.

>>149645836
Sexy mag

nice dead game, fags

So does ray pot work on compounds?

>>149649789
yes

who?

>>149650637
who?

>>149641973
grandma, i fucking love you and your mexican character

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>>149650669

>>149651146
who?

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>>149651208
The one with dat ass is Rena

>>149651358
dat no ass? alright
who's that red alien rat looking thing and that blue slut?

who?

Weh, fun times disconnecting.

>>149651358
>>149651146
>>149650637
kill
yourself

>>149651146

Nigga what the FUCK is going on with that tail?

>>149651734
Kek

>>149640143
There are at least 4 actual mecha looking caseals In this thread

Post wet dreams /pso2g/
>they add XH Free Explorations
>weathers get added effects that give various hazards around map props (thunderstorm will make grasses muddy and sticky, may strike trees if you're nearby and damage you)
>all enemies have aggressive AI and specific resistances (Weakpoint gimmick and high defense enemies like Micda get tech resists and ranged (less for RATK), melee weakpoint like King Yede enemies only stagger once every 10 seconds when struck on weakpoint + get SATK resistance there)
>There's a higher chance of rare enemies, but a big chance of them being Type enemies from es that are more effective against certain classes + have more HP
>A Type C Fangulfur will charge up a leap from across a cell to attack Rangers or Forces
>A Type Za Oodan will not put down its rock with a melee class nearby and shield its front from attacks while attacking
>A Type Set Sadinian will start using evasive maneuvers constantly (not 100%) and hounding you aggressively if you're under a certain amount of hp near them, etc
>Type Bosses get the additional attacks they have in es plus 'get off me' maneuvers that range from invuln shockwaves to retreating dodges when they take a huge amount of damage in a short amount of time (can be interrupted by staggering and won't do this during a stagger, unless they were staggered immediately before)
>all drops have a chance of having vinculum and a chance of mutation ii on Type enemies
>new 12* series are area stylized 1-6* weapons for each zone with a slayer potential
>each boss can drop a 13* themed around them, a 6% damage potential + a special ability that mimics one of their traits (Quartz would give a rod that does the light shower attack when PF is activated, Vol dragon would give a launcher that increases AOE of the projectile, PA speed and coats the shot in fire when a PA is used consecutively)
>also they add beasts

>>149642157
Why are you always telling anons to kill themselves

>>149651852
What counts as a mecha caseal because mine is humanoid but want to know if it counts

>>149651912
Wet dreams? Sure.
>irrelevant anons stop with the armchair dev shit
>add beasts and slicers

>>149651973
I kinda of agree with that anon, everyone here should kill themselves

except grandma, i love you

>>149652031
>stop with the armchair dev shit
But that's literally what I'm asking you to do
You even said one of the same things you silly goose

>>149651986
Lisa and barbara

FUCK FOURIER

>>149652129
>fuck Fourier
Well.
I mean, I would.

Did neek die?
https://www.youtube.com/user/DJNeeku

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>>149652343
I WANT TO FUCK A CASEAL

>>149652526
>Maria
Holy shit that's one sexy fucking grandma
I want her to train me

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What are some dank female armor costumes, anons

What's the point of BO?
It has no unique specialized role or anything. It's just a bad TE that doesn't actually provide any support and a bad FI/HU/BR because it does less damage.

Why doesn't it have a purpose or unique role/niche?

>>149652985
It's better at single target overall than HU or BR and can match FI or BR at mobbing when its actives are up.
The point is it's easy to play, and its weapon actions shit out iframes (JB can attack during these with its main class skill, DBs fire photon blades during).

>FI an Br still can't use techs
>Fo has everything

>>149651912
>may strike trees if you're nearby and damage you
And do 1 damage, like the normal lightning strike weather hazard does?

>>149651912
>they add a boss specifically made to challenge players that can currently solo everything else in the game

Like free field licenses, the quest will be gated behind new licenses requiring solo clears of elder, loser, pd on XH

Average estimated completion time for an MPA made up of these players: 10-20 minutes

Really, I'd love this. All I want is harder, faster content. I don't even give a shit about the rewards, it can just be money making, perhaps a new affix that can only be obtained there.

>>149653281
Sure they can.
FO/BR and FO/FI, anon
>>149653326
Nah, I forgot to mention they should do significant damage when I erased that to mention it's around area specific props. But it'd be just like 200 at most. But getting hit directly or indirectly would put you in an unbreakable stun, indirectly having much shorter duration. Indirect version won't hit if you're high enough above ground.

>>149653436
If you don't give a shit about rewards, solo the Odin LQ and PD.

Why were they lazy pieces of shits with the XH den? Where's the new map? Where's the visbolts with baize rain and funji? Where's the super persona at?

>>149653268
Easy to play is why I don't enjoy playing it.
Hunter is so satisfying, then playing something like BO is boring as fuck.

>>149653436
the game has a lot of challenging content, try to solo the EQs and Odin, good luck with magatsu though.

>>149653731
I think he wants something that's challenging for a MPA judging from his post. Which this game does lack.
Pretty much any EQ demands your mpa be highly undergeared or be playing near retarded to be 'difficult'.

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What's /pso2g/ doing?

>>149653647
Bouncer is like the opposite of easy to play

To be competitive in an MPA you have to actually work for it. That is unless you're just spamming moment gale/dispersion strike all the time, in which case fuck you don't play bouncer ever again.

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>>149653824
Going to sleep. Good night, pso2g

>>149653987
>in a mpa
MPA's are the worst form of content in the game.
Easy casual loot pinatas.

>>149653818
If you find MPA shit challenging, do it solo or lowman. Is that really that hard of a concept? The casuals get their shit because it is easy in an MPA, and those looking for a challenge can do so in solo/lowman.

>>149654023
Okay, to do well in general. That better?

>>149653818
CM was the only difficult content that required teamwork since you can't carry as hard as you can on the main servers without your gear and class combos

>>149652985
HU and melee BR don't really have "unique roles" either. Just saying.
FI's role is to shit out the most damage and it does that pretty well

>>149654069
That's literally not what he's asking for.
He wants challenging MPA content. You're missing the point completely.
>>149653987
Same could be said of FI or HU. Maybe not BR but again, if you're just spamming Guren, you probably aren't being competitive.

>>149653570
>>149653731
I've done both solo. Magatsu on xh has been done by someone with ra/hu, but not all class combinations can do it, so I guess I'd count that out. Any class can solo the falzes and LQ though, even summoner. Playing alone is boring and I'd like to struggle with players that are as good or better than me in a raid boss.

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>>149654012
Good night.

>>149654154
I get that this is an ideal scenario thing, but imo that's fucking retarded and a waste of time to talk about. If you want to be real, SEGA absolutely does not want to isolate the casual playerbase with content they cannot complete, which in all honesty is perfectly understandable in today's gaming world. The best possible options is to, again, lowman/solo shit.

>>149654449
>having 1 or two quests you can't face roll and casuals are locked out of
>this would be a bad thing
Explain how.
Back in the day you got good when you couldn't do something, now you just fucking whine until you get your way.

BTW, casual doesn't mean SHIT AT THE GAME.

>>149654449
Well. The original post was just a wet dreams thing, so yeah. There's not really supposed to be a realistic aspect to it.

>>149654537
Point out where I said that it would be a bad thing, please. Trust me, I would love for something like that. However, it's straight up not going to happen, since it actually is a kind of dumb idea from a business standpoint, where most big gaming companies view things from nowadays.

I WANT TO FUCK PONTHI RANGER

So much talk about how easy the game is, and yet the time attack rankings are always so barren

Weird, how that is.

>>149655071
>he doesn't know it's just sees discussing

>>149655071
TA =/= difficulty,

>>149655138
So then surely you can get top 5 in the rankings, right?

>>149655138
it's another "Waaaah do not like TA because i dont like it!!waaaa" episode

>>149655207
TA is SH.
TA isn't fun.
Video games are for fun.

Who is the best slut on ship 2?

>>149655245
>TA is SH
So you haven't played in a few months, then?

>>149655245
there is one on XH for you crybabies

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>>149654449
Honestly there are so many things SEGA can do that won't completely alienate either the casual or hardcore crowd. For example, employing drop bonuses for people who low-man or solo content, plus a bonus if nobody goes down, giving incentive to get better.

However this will never happen because Japanese execs believe that people will stop playing the game if they get drops.

>>149655278
Me obv

>>149655292
Not him but think it as this, yes mods are killed easily. If it was a kill mobs to rank then sure.
But when fighting with load times for murrican/anyone else that isn't japan it's shit times when ranking requires the best low time.

>>149654138
>hu
as silly as tanking is in this game hu is still the most durable class in the game especially with automate/massive/iron will
with good war cry hu can essentially keep enemies focused on him and give other players more leeway as they wont need to deal with as much enemies
>br
is an incredible initiator and extremely mobile melee attacker
especially noticeable in td when guren would tag a lot of mobs if there wasn't any fo in the mpa. in general also really good at cleaning up low health trash mobs the fastest (kanran/guren)
>bo
was meant to be a support attacker when they were introduced in ep3 with access to techs and auto-casting shifta/deband, except they fucking suck at it because they aren't te, and to balance around that they have less damage output and survivability in general. their only strength is never improved and the skill tree is fucking garbage
really the only thing holding up bo against every other class is fucking fury stance and satk boosts

>>149655071
The core content itself in every time attack, even Traces of Darkness is easy. You're only competing against other players. You can do this with the EQs as well, doesn't make them hard all of a sudden.

>>149655397
>even Traces of Darkness is easy.
traces isn't easy solo though

>>149655456
>traces isn't easy solo though
git gud

>>149655363
What are you even talking about? At the very least one of the past 2 IR winning parties has been from the west.

>>149655397
So is difficulty in beating your competition somehow lesser than difficulty in beating the AI? That's certainty an odd stance in the broader sense of gaming.

>>149655071
TA is a matter of memorizing a routine, sticking with it until you can replicate it perfectly, and then procuring the best time with your party.
It's a whole different creature than beating the crap out of things for the combat. You're not thinking about doing one routine, you're up against random spawns and e-codes which may or may not coincide with your cooldowns from the last spawn and the adds might be just the type that give you trouble. Well, adds being difficult at all is really an ult thing, but that's again, all too different from TA. If you want to compare apples and oranges, that's on you - repeating the same quest the same exact way until it produces results was never, and will never be fun to me, at least.

>>149655472
if it's so easy like you claim it to be show me what you can do with it in 3minutes, at least.

>>149655385
I agree with this anon.

BO has no strengths and I'm confused WHY it's the ONLY class that way.

>>149655343
Want to choke on this hard cock qt fox slut? also post more in a lewd outfit

>>149655513
BO is far better at single targets than HU, and only a bit worse than FI while having better suitability. It absolutely has a niche and to deny that is retarded.

>>149655480
Why are you bringing pvp aspects up? This is a PvE game and it's lacking in that regard. There are people that would like to see an improvement there.

>>149655590
So it's a jack of all trades with extremely beginner friendly pa's and no depth.

Jet boots are cool but DB are so fucking face roll it makes ep2 shunka illmegid look like rocket surgery.

>>149655343
>Refox the biggest skut

not anymore....

>>149655572
Good luck, sanya is all talk

>>149655648
Okay, but it's just odd that for the large amount of complaining about how easy the PvE aspect of the game is, the PvP aspect has so few people competing. It's almost like a lot of people want to try and sound good, while very few people actually put in the effort to do so.

Does Lilith dominate or does she get dominated?

>>149655343
>Japanese execs believe that people will stop playing the game if they get drops.
I wish they'd realize that taking a break/quitting because you got everything you want and thus have happy memories of the game is better than quitting/taking a break because your shit wouldn't drop and thus have bad memories, the first giving you a higher chance of coming back to the game...

>>149655686
>DB are so fucking face roll it makes ep2 shunka illmegid look like rocket surgery.

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

lolno

If you honestly think that, you have both no idea how to play bouncer, and no idea what made shunka and ilmegid so good.

>>149655686
>DB are so fucking face roll it makes ep2 shunka illmegid look like rocket surgery.
No. No they aren't, not in the slightest. I get you want to make a hyperbole and all but please refrain from making comparisons that are offensively stupid.
The fact that a lot of its PAs are only early shift action cancellable rather than step (shift action would deplete gear outside of PBF + has later i-frames than step) put it above TDs in terms of difficulty, for one.

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Why am I here and when is lunch?

>>149655914
>>149655874
You literally fly around shitting zero effort damage. Compare that to dealing dmg with HU weapons.

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>>149652220
No, all my newer videos are unlisted. My upload speed is about 15KB/s so it takes me about 15 hours to upload 1 video, I'm never gonna upload anything to Youtube unless somebody wants help and it can't fit in a webm.

That being said, if you were expecting more TA videos from me then you can forget it. I was never into TA and the ones I uploaded were for a friend that wanted help with his Fi (mainly the Zesh room). Definitely will spend a lot of time trying to get a decent run to cherrypick when I have to spend a whole day just to upload it

>>149655590
a proper hu can actually pretty damn good at single target
knowing the weapon's strengths and weaknesses is key to playing hu
partizan and sword with the right PAs can outdo db and jb on single target

>>149655686
jet boots are incredibly complex and can take a lot of effort to play fully
unfortunately even doing so you're only just a smidge better than braindead moment gale spam
it also sucks at techs despite it being a fucking tech weapon

db is actually pretty weak outside of boss fights, and due to forced motion on most PAs it's also annoying to use on more stationary bosses

>>149655981
That damage is ass holy fuck.

>>149655968
zero effort and zero damage
a single strike from a hunter PA could do more than double the damage
just because a ton of damage numbers pop up doesnt mean the overall output is higher

>>149655968
Okay, so you don't know how bouncer works and you don't know how ep2 shunka and ilmegid worked. Thanks for your input.

>>149655991
Nah. Doing JB and DB right with rotating active skills could outdamage a Hu. The keyword is right. The vast majority of people playing bouncer just do shit like moment gale on a single target.

>>149655991
>it also sucks at techs despite it being a fucking tech weapon
I feel like this has more to do with Force being way stronger at everyone else at this than it is on the JBs themselves

>>149655686
>beginner friendly PAs
people actually complained about Vinto being hard to land
>>149655991
>partizan and sword with the right PAs can outdo db and jb on single target
This is entirely boss dependent, but overall I'd rather see a BO in PD than a HU

>>149656031
It was a misfire since I was supposed to cancel it with another PA but didn't have the PP to do so. I didn't know it could hit more than 6 times in one use before that though.

>>149656086
not necessarily
similarly most if not all hu players dont really play hu that well
hardly anyone uses war cry, sacrifice bite for example
hunter is much stronger than a lot of people think it is
it just takes a lot of effort to actually pull off, and bo is far easier to do "properly" than hu is

>>149656095
look at bouncer's fucking skill tree
how many skills increase tech damage?

>>149655981
>that magatsu
nah, you need to upload that!
borrow someone elses net or something.

>>149655968
I play Hunter obsessively and I'm telling you you're full of shit. You want to fly around above enemy attacks and deal damage? You better be doing something other than Dispersion, because the other PAs don't hit far under you for shit and Dispersion is shit dps and basic mobbing. If you're not in range to be hit, likely this is all you're doing, and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>149655991
BO does have higher single target with its actives up in general.
Yes you can Ignite Parry with Sac Bite up and that works for some things, but other times bosses will straight up move out of your intended targeted point or go past you nulling Brave Stance, both of which are incredibly detrimental. Ride Slasher on fat bosses is pretty great, but again, situational. Going between RE and GB is fine and all, but it's not particularily high DPS either.
Partizan is really only about the Volg combos with single target and by fuck that is beyond situational. The combos utilizing Sacred, Assbust/Slide instead of Zenith or Tear (though this last one is super inefficient pp wise too) drain your PP like mad so a BO could outdo you if you slip up on just a couple combos.

>>149656252
>look at bouncer's fucking skill tree
>how many skills increase tech damage?
that's exactly the point?

>>149656312
for the average player yeah bo is better at single target compared to hu
hunter has so much things to keep up in order to reach it's highest damage output it becomes situational often
but if a player puts in effort there is nothing bo does better than any other class outside of break stance niren zanverse

>>149656086
Literally didn't comment on illmegid.

Illmegid was charge, spin in circles, and watch your heat seeking infinite range nuke hit the same enemy(s) over and over and over while you didn't even have to aim or do anything.

HU is the hardest to play highest skill cap and ceiling class in the entire game, all it's weapons are so fun and satisfying to use with so much depth behind them.

Hunter is honestly, barely behind FO in terms of strength. I'd argue HU does more damage than FO desu, the only advantage FO has is that a braindead monkey can play it effective because
>ranged class
While a hunter has to JG every enemy attack, the FO doesn't even realize 95% of bosses attacks/mechanics even exist :)

>>149655981
>tfw NEEK NOTICED ME
I WANT TO FUCK NEEK

>>149656383
all tech casting classes:
obviously force has a skill tree that provides incentive to use techs because of high tech multipliers

techer also has elemental masteries + useful utility skills for tech casters, ewh, so on

summoner is awkward because it boosts basically everything globally and uses pets for everything

bouncer goes fuck techs and has pretty much no synergy with the above 3 classes despite it being touted as a hybrid s/tatk class

>>149656520
That really isn't saying much though. Ease of use and lack of situational dependencies is a merit in terms of consistent damage.
That doesn't make the class useless. Else you would boil Braver down to Guren and FI down to Limit Break.
The optimal situation is not the only thing that matters since unless it's a TA it's not 100% guaranteed to be replicatable no matter the circumstance.

Hu has volg and sword, enough said

>>149656797
Oh, this is assuming you don't take gameshark mate.

Charge parry ring also makes FO even more braindead than humanly imaginable.

>>149656828
You're not even disagreeing with me here so I have no idea what it is you're trying to accomplish

>>149656892
unfortunately
unless it's a TA, how well you do on a quest doesn't matter because lol ep4

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>>149655572
Definitely do. And I would if most of it wasn't lewd mod.

>>149655719
Doubt.

>>149655746
>all talk

C'mon now.

>>149655854
Pretty much this.

>>149656520
>but if a player puts in effort there is nothing bo does better than any other class outside of break stance niren zanverse
This was my original complaint. Why is BO designed as a weaker class because "jack of all trades without actually being a jack of all trades?

>>149656965
Nah, Mirage Escape alone made it braindead x10000

You at least have to properly time a tech charge parry

>>149656976
>it also sucks at techs despite it being a fucking tech weapon
>I feel like this has more to do with Force being way stronger at everyone else at this than it is on the JBs themselves
it's not really about force being super strong but bouncer lacks synergy with tech classes
like since ever force would always be paired up with techer, very rarely fighter or braver
when bouncer was introduced a lot of players were basically expecting and assuming it might have some sort of synergy with techer at least, if not force

>>149657053
because the devs have no fucking idea what they are doing with bo if the skill tree isnt enough evidence

>>149657053
The class was advertised as a "chance maker"
Hence the focus on support fields, support techniques, and breaking parts
It's supposedly about creating opportunities in battle but in practice ???

>>149656735
Literally didn't comment on illmegid
>>149655686
>Jet boots are cool but DB are so fucking face roll it makes ep2 shunka illmegid look like rocket surgery.
Yeah, sure you didn't

>>149656797
>I'd argue HU does more damage than FO desu, the only advantage FO has is that a braindead monkey can play it effective because
>>ranged class
Oh it does more damage, sure. Per PA.
But since you're spending so much time actually getting to the enemies this is nowhere near true and a competent FO shits all over you every time. Wouldn't be true without compounds, but those exist, so yeah.
I love HU but you're delusional if you think HU is barely behind FO. There's a reason you can do shitall in TA or parser in any quest in comparison.
>>149656985
well I completely agree there, but HU lags behind in TAs even so.
I agree it's situational better nonetheless, it deserves to be anyways.

>>149657053
Because you're literally playing it wrong, anon.

>>149657053
Honestly BO is in a decent spot right now. It could use a better field skill to start having a bigger presence, but everything else about the class is fine except still having to get rainbow DBs

>>149657120
>>149657187
>heal share
>support fields with VERY specific requirements for them to benefit anyone
>the worst stances in the game with isane requirements for lesser bonuses than other stances
>>149657217
TA/mobbing is irrelevant, FO will ALWAYS win there. Bossing is a real competition.

>>149657335
Good thing FO is also faster at bossing then

>>149657035
Name then? love fox ears and dying to see what a good cocksucker you are slut

best left hand ring for Fi/Hu?

>Bouncer is so bad XD!!!
>First place in the current time attack rankings is a bouncer
Okay.

>>149657335
FO is stronger at bossing because HU depends on the boss not being the kind fucking you in terms of positioning thanks to the /FI subclass. Or being highly mobile in general. Then there's the fact compounds shit all over you. XHTA is all bossing too, except those two houses in the toy darker room, and FO is pretty much the best in there.

>>149657387
If you want the absolute best, the DS one. However, the knuckle and TD rings both have their niches which they fill quite nicely.

>>149657442
>>149657367
>>149657217
I don't understand why the easiest to play safest RANGED class is the best DPS.

Makes no fucking sense.

>>149657187
>打撃と法撃を得意とし、近~中距離戦に対応したバランスの良いクラスです。近距離戦闘だけでなく、テクニックの使用も可能なクラスです。また、支援能力も高く、多人数での戦いで真価を発揮するスキルを持っていることも特徴として挙げられます。
Proficient in striking and technic attacks, Bouncer is a close-mid ranged balanced class. This class shines when playing with multiple players due to it's high supportive abilities.
>technic attacks
>balanced
>high supportive abilities

>>149657306
bo is literally only decent because of hu sub and comparatively high weapon power
most of it's skills are garbage and have little synergy with each other
>heal share
>ELEMENTAL PP RESTORATE FIELD
>HEAL BONUS
>CRAFT MASTERY
>BREAK STANCE

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>>149657373
Just add me on Steam since I haven't updated PSO2 in months.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/Nonon88/

>>149657442
Those two houses in the toy darker room actually have boss tier health. The HP of everything in that quest is fucked around with a lot.

>>149657515
That would be because if you're playing force as a purely ranged class you're doing it wrong.

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>>149657423
>First place in the current time attack rankings is a bouncer

>>149657559
>since I haven't updated PSO2 in months.
Why are you here then

>>149657565
Ragrants + pp convert +level20 tech charge ring is passive katana combat escape

>>149657526
You could quote the same fucking thing from ranger being sold as a support class.

>>149657423
ok shithead
https://twitter.com/milranduil/status/757343781586743296

>>149657663
Weak bullet was the best support in the game until weak bullet dampening.
It's still mandatory and the best support class for 99% of the games content.

>>149657670
That's not first place

The SEES group isn't likely to be first place either by the time the rankings end, but the fact that a bouncer can help them get they time they did kind of shows it isn't as bad as you think it is.

>>149657515
I'd say blame the episode director, but this has been true since EP3 so yeah.
Basically, a lot of the dev team must not play the game.
>>149657565
You're right, but I think it says a lot when the casting class can deal better damage than you close and far overall. I mean, for fucks sakes, you get 0pp supers, one that fires a goddamn beam and another that summons two giant swords.
You have less survivability I'll give you that, but your dodge is so good (it's about to be better with short mirage escape assuming it gives you at least .3sec invuln) and then you have that HU skill made into a ring.
Every time a Force joins my mpa, my dick shrinks. I swear to god.

>>149657745
>getting blown all the way back by some gaijins second attempt
just give up son

>>149657829
What are you even talking about

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>>149657623
Well to be honest I wanted to start playing again but then EDF was announced and I've been playing that instead. I also felt the need.

>>149657640
Do you think ragrants is ranged? If so you have a pretty fucking loose definition of ranged.

>>149657745
the bouncer barely did anything
literally would get a better time if replaced by FO

>>149657881
>w-what are you talking about?!?
ok shithead

>>149657943
The need to suck cock?

>>149657946
no?
tech charge parry ring at level20 makes you passively invincible while spamming ragrants with pp convert

>>149657959
>Solos Zesh+Wolga room
>Nothing
Okay.

>>149657946
>what is a talis

>>149658002
No like I actually cannot parse what you wrote. It might just be too late but I have no idea what you were trying to say. Are you saying it was their 2nd attempt ever soloing the quest? Because you're really fucking wrong if so.

People still think Bo is so useless?

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>>149658017
Uh-huh! But also to check up and see what was happening. I haven't been added yet, was looking forward to it.

>>149658152
It does nothing that another class can't do better, so yes.

>>149658517
That's true for every class not called FO

>>149658152
Time for bouncers to bounce out of the game

>no one ever mentions wire lance when talking about HU
Why? It's as good as partizan for mobbing.

>>149658601
Because Sword has better mobbing and volg for bosses

>>149658601
Probably because it has less AOE, straight up wastes your PP if the target you tried to grab dies before you hit it (where Speed or Slide Shaker would have kept on going or Assbuster would have hit targets to the side) and is extremely unsafe overall at mobbing by comparison.
WLs aren't very good anon. Even single target, HF is above par but suffers from being a point blank grab and HC DPS isn't actually very high since regardless of how fast you mash, you play the full animation, and again, way unsafe compared to even Volg.

>>149658601
>>149658645
Holding current is better dps than volg in 90% of situations but it's a bit harder to use

Why do br, gu and fi still exist?

>>149658915
side classes for fun

>>149658981
being shit isn't fun
honestly just remove all melee from the game

>>149659004
>Fighter is shit
Good go git it

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>>149656285
Everyone has shit internet here.

There isn't really anything to show about Magatsu for any class, it's a bit silly how fast he dies nowadays. If it's a belly WB run, it's just Flicker > BHS > Normal Attack > Repeat for Fi until it's dead and if it isn't, it's basically the same thing but with a little bit of TD thrown in. Knowing how to deal with his 'lag warps' is all that you really need, Wise Stance also works incredibly well if it's not a belly run.

Using Step Attack when he flies up is also good to recover PP instead of jumping.
https://puu sh/o2Q8F/df6bb161c8.webm

>>149659004
but brgu is useful

>>149659097
Good shit, thank you Neeku senpai!

>game focused around action combat
>only viable way to play is to entirely ignore the game's mechanics
Why does this happen in every "action" MMO?

>>149659097
holy shit thats dank

did not know the step attack trick

>>149659119
>br/gu
leave

>>149659306
It's not the only viable way to play, I rape everything on my melee classes, especially HU.

FO is just for baby casual girl gamers. Honestly the class needs ripped into two and a global 30% damage nerf, melee should ALWAYS be better than ranged as they don't have to actually play the game.

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Is it honestly wrong to use gale+shift into vinto when i am trying to stay in midair so i can hit a weak spot like lets say ragne assuming i am under RB so it does not take ages to finish?
sure i use strike gust instead when applicable but not everything is a sandbag on floor

>>149659430
Classes should be balanced around the investment they require, nothing else.

>>149659430
>melee should ALWAYS be better than ranged as they don't have to actually play the game.
I guess you've never properly played any ranged or tech class before, then?

>>149659684
>muh rainbow weapons/crafting techs!!!
Doesn't fucking matter if your class can ignore 95% of enemies mechanics by being at fucking range.

>>149659724
My FO is 75.
I main FO.

>>149659430
Ranger, gunner, and bow are all harder to play than melee that isn't Fi/Hu

>>149659813
What are you doing with Fo that you're not in the face of enemies a lot? Especially bosses.

>>149659887
Ranger is easier than Fo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jev4l3LBILA

>>149659953
Yes, we can see how it is by the fact that it takes almost 9 minutes to clear something FO does under 3 minutes

>>149659953
idk if you asked ponthi he'd probably tell you ra is harder

I want to suck neeks cock, plz

>>149658752
other cyclone type-0 is also good and can replace holding current
>>149659563
yes it's wrong because you could also do gran wave x2 into vinto

>>149660631
>other cyclone type-0 is also good and can replace holding current
Hahahahahahahashhahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

No it can't

>>149660631
>other cyclone type-0 is also good and can replace holding current
you fucking what, mate

>>149659563
Strike gust can be used in the air, so yes, you're doing it wrong.

When are they going to patch the Sai crashes?

>>149661361
>>149661385
I was skeptical at first but I checked swiki and he's right, it is pretty high dps (higher than consecutive holding currents)
So I guess if the opening is long enough it might be better to use

>>149661656
looks like nova strike with more range and less pp usage

>>149661427
For some reason if i dont follow up with gust shift action which makes me fall down like a rock it feels pretty meh to use it in midair but guess i should try chaining multiple of them instead

>>149661656
Well first off no it's not. If you're going by purely swiki numbers, holding current is better DPS than other spin type 0.

However, the entire fucking point of holding current is to get off nearly the entire power of the PA in less than a second, instantly killing most bosses on weakpoints and destroying very temporarily available weakpoints. To say over spin type 0 replaces holding current in any way is fucking retarded.

>>149661878
You can get 3 bars of gear in just 1 strike gust under rapid boost. That's kind of what makes rapid+strike+vinto so good.

>>149661656
Wow, I never would've guessed that. Nice information.

>>149662102
You should stop replying to yourself

>>149662002
>You can get 3 bars of gear in just 1 strike gust under rapid boost
during midair?and not using shift action?
yeah for sure when on ground it works fine but for aerial combat i dont remember it giving so much gear gauge even under jb gear boost+rb
guess i will give it a try again

>>149661905
Holding current gives me cancer.

>>149661905
Yes, that's why I said it may be better when the opening is longer, I'm not sure if you've read my post properly
swiki lists type-0's dps as 227.38 (perfect craft) while holding current is 178.36. Obviously, if the weakpoint is exposed for the duration of one holding current or less, that will be better

>>149661905
no relevant boss gets instantly killed by macro nonsense and you can't cancel out of the rest of HC's frames anyway
that, and holding current isn't always a good idea because you need to be at a certain range away from the target. WL is at its strongest at close range because you have access to things other than holding current and kaiser rise
I also said "can replace", not "outclass". For instance during Magatsu, you can opt for other cyclone craft all the way instead of relying on strict positioning of HC.

Do note that the DPS value on Swiki for Holding Current is only for the displayed PA value. The mashable portion hits for 10 times for 9% and the wire itself hits for 5% 6 times (7 if mob can be grabbed). So the true value of HC would be 4939(6420 w/ gear) on non-grabbable things with a DPS value of 1081(1405).

It's stupid that they've still got PAs that don't fully show the PA damage value in the game. It is always better to check DPS yourself since they've been wrong sometimes.

>>149658027
It really doesn't. It blocks 1 hit and only while you're charging, if you get hit more than once or while releasing a ra grants it doesn't work. I really wish Hu mains would stop commenting on things they know nothing about.

>>149664576
I'm a force main.

>>149664763
then act like one you fag

>>149664945
I'm not a biased braindead moron like every other FO player.

I actually understand that my class is fucking braindead easy and should be heavily nerfed to reflect the reward:effort ratio properly.

>login
>bouncer still not deleted
>logout
Sega please fix this shit.

>3 each wars within 10 hours
>could be actual meaningful mandatory collection file EQ's
but no
>Beach wars
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH SEGA
HOW IS THIS OK?

>>149665268
>require 12 13* weapons and a plethora of extra skill trees to be used properly
>lolnoeffort
I don't think you're an actual force main.

>>149665268
Why would you lie on an anonymous image board?

>>149665467
boohoo you have to put effort into gearing
it makes up for the zero effort you put into actual fucking combat you whiney little bitch
Every mage player in every fucking MMO is a whiney casual girl

>>149665628
Some classes have to study the field and prepare beforehand, while others just grab a stick and bat at the mobs.
Every melee player in every fucking MMO is a jealous casual bitch.

>>149665768
I main force.
You're just a biased retard, sorry.

>>149665932
>go to counter
>change main class to hunter
Now I main hunter.
You're just a biased retard, sorry.

please guys

there's no such thing as having no bias

>>149665932
>I main force.
We already established this as a lie since you didn't even know how tech charge parry works. I assume you're just some guy who plays in a tryhard team and who is now salty after your leader told you to play Force for organized Eqs.

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>>149665932
>>149665268
>I'm a force main!
800 hours in photoshop

>force players defending their babymode bullshit
stay shit pso2g

>nonforces biting the hand that carry them
Stay ingrate pso2g

>>149666384
That's terrible, it took me about 10 seconds to realize it's supposed to be a mask

>>149666949
>that's terrible
Took me a lot of effort :(

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SPECIAL EGG?

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>>149666692
>implying

>>149636539
>>149636795
Anybody care to share where to get this mod?

>>149667770
>OH
LOL

>>149667757
>braver
>points into warcry
>rb is block
>RT is left attack
>no status removal consumable on bar

>>149668101
>greentext
All of that is normal

>>149667757
gratz on torim

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>>149667757
Enjoy your murder bird.

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>>149668101
>Braver
:^)
>Points into Warcry
1 point is only needed and that's what I have.
>RB is block, RT is left attack
It's my preference.
>No status remover on bar
I have more than one bar and there's usually a TE (or someone subbing it) that would happily anti me so they get super treatment. If not; It's not hard to switch to my other bar.

>>149668548
>>149668629
>Torim

Not this time.

>>149668942
That sucks.

kys

who?

any1 wanna erp?

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Goodnight /pso2g/

Maybe I'll post more often from now on.

>>149671772
Contact sign for a good time

>>149670018
smu

>>149671809
please don't

>>149651912
my wet dream would be removal of candy box and eggs and turning SU pets into disks (making tact affixable too)

dead game lmao

>>149677559
Yup

>>149677559
Sorry
Im at work

>try out iron will as fighter
>stopped getting hit by anything
oh well

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I like this basewear. Too bad it's basewear. Is it so wrong to have some normal one-off costumes, for chrissakes

https://twitter.com/MiIranduil/status/757739958811566080

>>149681506
I want to fuck those abs.

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How many meseta do i need to get out of poverty status?

>>149681506
No, you'll use SEGA's new costume systems and you'll like it.

>>149681506
lewdkini picture please

>>149682308
But mom, they're expensive, I'm saving up my meseta to grind and affix

>>149681928
20m

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>>149682481
>Playing the game to have good equipment
LMAOing@ur life

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roast me

>>149685128
too ugly to look at and point out what went wrong

>>149685128
change your eye

>>149685128
You've got some big eyes

>>149686490
4 u

>>149685128
fix those eyes
you aren't some kawaii uguu loli dewman

>>149685128
The eyes.

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Yo, was up pee es o too gee?
Having a good day?

>>149687939
Eating pizza, being lewd in a skype call while farming deep dungeon, it's aight.

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Buying all fuccbois @ 20m per, thanks.

>>149667774
go to and collect $200
>>147089435

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What do you like about episode 4?

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Haha! Epic! Simply... epic!

>>149691875
>I am so retarded I have no idea what these weapons do

>>149692075
Absolutely fucking nothing in a TD2? No, I got that.

>>149691875
So, one uses the Kongou to guren dash obviously, the other uses a Queen Viera solely for PP regeneration?
What's the problem anon?
I bet next you'll lie and say "t-they were totally using it for damage!" and somebody will believe you with that pictured crafted saiki, the fact that the Kongou is crafted for multi class, and the potentials being unlocked.

>>149691875
You aren't very smart

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>>149691864
The music
The new shaders
The new cast parts
The rebalance/new skills
The Summoner class
NT are alright
The Bonus Quests
The Collection Files
The Extra free character slot
The New Volcano Packer variant

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>>149691875
here, have a (you)

I want Lilith to step on me!

>>149691875
>I'm a dumb motherfucker that think the only purpose a weapon have is to deal damage

>>149692119
>>149692253
I think what he's trying to point out is that they are Fo/Br instead of Fo/Te in a TD2, no idea why he screenshoted the gear though.

>>149692119
>Guren dashing in TD2
>Queen Viera in 2016
>>149692253
>>149692321
>>149692428
What is this Skylark defence force?

>>149692453
>I think what he's trying to point out is that they are Fo/Br instead of Fo/Te in a TD2
Yeah not if he's specifically screenshotting each of the weapons. Even then being Fo/Br is nothing to fucking cry about.
He's just one stupid motherfucker.
>>149692656
See?

>>149692734
>Fo/Br is nothing to cry about
I can't believe we're in the same thread right now.

>>149691864
It made me quit and freed me from this game

>>149692656
>i dont know how to play pso2

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>>149692656
Keep being a retard, Retard.

>>149692896
I have 3 br trees solely for Fo/Br.
Literally nothing wrong with it if they're using it right.

>>149692917
What ERP? tgere wasnt any ERP last night

>>149693039
Getting all those sweet worthless TD points while not zondeeling a single mob for the entire run? Yeah, really playing it well.

>>149693096
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't zondeel even when I'm subbing Te.

>>149693096
>literally theory EQing
I can't believe you're in this thread, to be honest.

>>149693047
Yes there was
everyone followed sign and enju to the beach cabin

>>149693096
Did you even parse the run to see their damage contribution?

>>149693096
>doesn't know about shit02
you need those points to not fail td2 in ship2

>>149693234
As expected of OH.

>>149693315
Only thing i heard was that people went into someone's room and some ERP had happned there

>>149693282
Where do you think I took those pictures, shithead? "Theory", go dig yourself a grave and throw yourself in it.

>>149693386
You don't even know how mining bases work. Amazing.

>>149692917
There's always someone ERPing. Therefore, yes, you missed out.

>>149693619
I heard the green cat raped someone last night. Can anyone confirm?

>>149693553
Ok, because you totally capped the whole mpa right, and you're absolutely sure there were zero techers or FO/TE to be zondeel sluts?
Oh wait, nobody would fucking believe you since you didn't, because you're an abrasive prick who didn't even realize what those weapons were for with that simply ebin post.
Retards like you are why SEGA is so anal about tools like parser.

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>>149691864
A lot of the quality of life stuff, renovated salon, and how much better the game looks.

I don't really dig the story.

>>149691864
Dress-up. That's all.

>>149693934
see >>149692656
>Guren dashing in TD2
>Queen Viera in 2016
I'm allowed to be an abrasive prick cause my chance for a 4 run TD2 was just ruined by those 2 fuckheads who need "muh guren" in an EQ where you only stand in a small area if you're playing it fucking properly anyway.
What does Fo/Br do better than Fo/Te in TD2? Nothing.