Fighting Games General /fgg/

first for botes

st is kusoge
fun, but shit

Did season 2 get cancelled?

let's design an ultimate street fighter
>anti-airs based on st
>jump-ins based on st
>normals based on st
>walking speed based on st
>input lag of st
>combos of st
>balance based on a combination of various versions of sf ii and alpha 2
>remove random damage / stun
>netcode of killer instinct
>no dashes
>larger reversal and link buffer of v
>v-system of sf v but no v-triggers or other comeback mechanics
>few OSs like v
>meter carries between rounds
>character customization, i.e. can pick certain specials, v-skills, supers, etc.
>NO AIR BLOCK EVER

>>149466065
It was never confirmed or planned in the first place.

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We need a new Warzard

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>>149466081
hi /v/

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>tfw you finally beat that guy who always had your number then beat him in a ft5 anf cause him the salt that you had

Best feel

>>149466220
st is not kusoge

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This is an Unreal Engine 4 fighting game.

>>149466235
Is this bait?

>play almost non-stop since release
>still not even silver

>>149466235
i've had this and it felt like a fluke even tho it was 10-0

>>149466295
t. pissssss

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Defend this, goobers.

>>149466327
>sfv
lmao

>>149466304
Looks like shit desu.

Fighting games should be about visibility. T7 looks like everything blends into the background. The beautiful thing about SF5's design is that the characters pop out of the background so it's easy to see them.

>>149466081
>another OG trying to shill ST in this day and age
go back to the bed grandpa.

>>149466323
No I was at a local yesterday. 2-0d him and played a long set then asked for more later. He didn't win much against me when I played bison

Which characters have invincible reversals?
I dont think necalli is invincible.
Not sure about karin and chun too.

>>149466437
Ky's you scrub.

>>149466479
t. goober who can't stop jumping or dedicate himself to hard reads and commitment. have fun anti-airing for 5% and no setups.

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>>149465919
When the game's so dead that they don't even bother with console releases anymore.

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Why there is still this strong belief (not too much here, mostly on other sites) that SFV gameplay is great despite agreeing that the whole package is shit? SFV gameplay isn't great at all, it has wonky hitboxes and really weird feeling. How come people act like sheep when the US FGC is behind these games? It reminds of the SFxTK days where anyone in the top US FGC part was pretending like the game was fine (except for a bunch of guys like Ultradavid and I don't remember who else) except it was really not?

>>149465919
Question for Kof Xiii players. Why is it so common for people to pick your team/characters after the first game?

I've played so many people online who change their team to include one or all of my characters after a win or loss. I dont have a problem with mirror matches but i've never seen people so quick to choose their opponent's team than in this game/community.

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Something about Mai's face looks off.

Like she resembles a marionette more than a human.

Reminder that SF4 is the perfect fighting game

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>>149466571
English Elphelt announcer calls him MISTER KYS

>>149466686
un
canny
valley

>>149466641
It's ok to not like the game. People hated on SF4 the whole time it was out so there's that.

>>149466641
I only ever saw scrubs and drones claim the gameplay is fine. Fanboys got very selective with picking positives and negaives from reviews. Some guy who never plays fgs saying sfv has laughable small content gets laughed at but praised at the same time when he gives his shit opinion that "the gameplay is excellent, very responsive" etc.

>>149466641
because it has street fighter in its name
the game is hot garbage, the hurt/hitboxes are shit, the frame data is fucked, the neutral is dumb

also early access game with shit matchmaking and shit lobbies AND shit netcode half the time

>>149466802
sf4 was liquid shit but people put up with it because it was literally the only game on the market that wasn't old and busted

there are plenty of new fighters out right now though

>>149466624
the old version of UNIst was shit and FB knew it

>>149466607
t. faggot who can only live based on nostalgia and bad mouth everything past ST. having a hard time to adapt to other games right, grandpa?

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>get bored of playing sf all the time
>decide to try out gg since it seems fun to play
>pick sol since he seems cool to use
>mess around with him and get a couple of stuff down with him
>decide to look up combos for him
>see this
How the fuck is anyone supposed to remember doing all of this shit in a match how do people play this game enough to know this

>>149466651
Maybe you play a top tier team like Team DLC and they go serious on you after one round?

>>149466641
because no one wants to admit that the last good sf was alpha 2

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>Spend 30 minutes trying to do hh.a xx V-slasher
>All I had to do was TK the hh.a
Also is there some trick to getting your chains off more consistently in KOF? or is it just something you get a feeling for eventually.

>>149466802
You are putting it like it's a "you don't like it, it's okay to not like things" side. Also SFIV wasn't that great either, but at least the hitboxes were acceptable there.

>>149466902
So obviously it isn't shitty as you are leading yourself to believe. SF4 included

>>149466607
>goober
>anti-airing for 5%

if you're gonna shitpost at least keep it consistent

>>149466971
Maybe fighting games aren't for you. It's not like you need to instantly know every single optimal confirm.

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wuddup /fgg/
How do you deal with a character crisis?

sanwa > seimitsu > gamermeme buttons

>>149467010
That's exactly what I'm saying. Love and let live pham

>>149466986
*ST

>>149467010
>You are putting it like it's a "you don't like it, it's okay to not like things" side.
That is the most common tactics for capcom fanboys. Murricans are awake so the kermits should coom soon again, too.

>>149467134
Wondering this too.
Maining necalli but i'm not having any fun at all and mostly rely on gimmicks to win.
Kinda want to switch to karin or chun for the FOOTSIES.

>>149466686
I would love to be knocked out by Mai so I can look up her dress

>>149466978
I should've specified that my team is Robert/Mature/ELizabeth. People usually choose Mature or Elizabeth after the first match against me.

I assume they're trying to shit on me for being new/bad at the game? But them already winning the match is proof that they're better.

>>149466991
Practice. Also there are some buffering tricks that help when you figure them out.

Killer Instinct? More like Kusoge Instinct!

>>149467134
>>149467249

Pick the higher tier character/the one you win with the most. If that doesnt sit right with you, then you've revealed that you really prefer the other character.

braixen thighs

Wii U skullgirls port when?

tfw you get hit by your own mixup

can you still mod in juri or did they fix that?

>>149467356
2/10 use the better ones like shiller instinct and or killer shitstink

Where do I go to learn Tekken? And what's a good beginner character?

>>149467291
Yeah those characters are ot top ties so dunno why people would pick them after 1 round. I asked that someone once and he replied "to show meyou how to play this character".
So yeah just take it as learning opportunity

i want to shitpost so bad but i know its wrong
someone see me in uniel pc eu instead

>>149467535
Congratulation, you've played yourself
it's a legit mix up.

>>149467535
tfw you get hit by the void mixup

>>149467602
Aris' and Levelupyourgame tutorials on youtube and tekkenzaibatsu. Do you have any character you're interested in?

>>149466524
Stop with the bait

>>149467535
tfw u do an ambiguous left/right jump in and mess up the confirm because you mixed yourself up

>>149467602
https://www.youtube.com/user/LevelUpYourGame/
Also it's more important to learn the movement than a character combo. You will have to get used to tons of attacks and feel their framedata anyway which comes natural thanks to the animation hints.

>>149466607
Anti-airs in guilty do like 50% on a bad day and give you oki. At least do your research

>>149466641
>Why there is still this strong belief (not too much here, mostly on other sites) that SFV gameplay is great despite agreeing that the whole package is shit?
Because people who know jack-shit about fighting games would sound like dumb people when they say something negative about a SF game, which is why they say how the game "feels great" or "has great gameplay" despite never explaining the reason why.

>How come people act like sheep when the US FGC is behind these games?
What the FGC (as in "the top part of the FGC", composed by TOs, commentators, strong FGC personalities) wants is mostly two things: money and exposure, so that the scene will grow. They'll eat whatever compromise for doing so, even filling agreements with Capcom itself. No matter how good/bad the actual game will be.

>>149466641
daigo says he likes it

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>>149467661
I guess you're right they could be trying to show me how the character is played. Honestly it came off as a big "fuck you for trying to learn this game I like", which was offputting.

I guess i was just being pessimistic, thanks anon

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>>149467760
MIND GAMES

>>149467134
I watch videos of better players playing my character to remind me of how cool he is.

How do I play Jedah

>>149467825
>>149467791
Thanks and I have no idea I was just gonna start with Jin or something

>>149468118
triangle jump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69uh-qy8sOA

>tfw you'll never meet someone in the parking lot for cheating at Tekken Ball

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>>149468007

>>149467875
You're disproven by the astonishingly short lifespan of Street Fighter X Tekken, a game that was maligned for pretty much every reason but its core gameplay. The game wasnt that great but everyone was too busy bitching about gems, on disc DLC, and time outs to actually criticize or analyze it. If people truly dont like a game, it'll die.

>>149466971
Those are all optimal hit confirms. Stick to your basic combo routes until you're read yto level your game up. Ground knockdown is three or so buttons into 2D > Bandit Revolver. Air is stuff into j.S jc j.S j.HS Volcanic Viper > followup for knockdown.
Corner damage easy route is essentially get a button/string that goes into one of these buttons on them that puts them on/sliding in the wall like 6P, Fafnir or Bandit Bringer. Once you land one of those do 6P 5HS j.D air fire divekick forgot the name then 6P 6HS for knockdown. After every knockdown do Gunflame YRC over their body and enjoy your 1 free mixup.

There now you can play Sol on a basic enough level to beat high level players assuming you have sick enough reads. After you nail all that try to learn what moves allow actual dustloops in the corner because what I posted isn't a proper dustloop but works on everyone in any state.

>>149468463
People had a lot of complaints with the gameplay too. Did you miss the JabxTimeout complaints?

People who have played more of KoF XIV's demo.
How are the super cancels compared to 2k2UM? Similar, or maybe even easier?

Don't have a PS4 stick, so instead I decided to mess around a bit with 2k2UM and noticed that I'm able to easily do supercancels that I assumed I'd suck ass at, as my execution is not great.

>>149468574
Why not just download the demo and see for yourself?

>>149468158
Jin is simple enough to get started with. Leo, Lili, Alisa, Jack, Paul and Lars are all good beginner characters in my opinion, in case you want someone easier.

>>149468463
SFXT was absorbed into sf4 though, coincidentally this was around the time sf4 turned to shit

>>149468463
Just wanted to post this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAJUelWRWBs

>>149468692
ultra was literally the only good iteration of sf4

end yourself 16er

>>149468643
Like I said I don't have PS4 stick and with pad my lack of execution prevents me from getting a good feel for them.

Anyone know the sonic break strengths you input after c.mpxxmedium boom for the guile v-trigger loop that pretty much works anywhere on screen?

>>149468717
>tfw no mega man in usf4

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>>149467535

>>149467401
But... the wins, mang.

>>149468647
Awesome thanks again

>>149467134
I took a short break from the game, tested some other characters after returning and asked myself why I play my shit tier main. As cheesy as it sounds, I realised handicaps are what honestly made the game fun for me and if I cannot overcome handicaps without switching to another character, I suck as a player and would suck equally even with a better character against anyone good. So I stuck with him.

>>149467249
Try other characters. You'd be surprised how sometimes the character chooses you than the other way around. That's how I eventually discovered my main.

Call me fucking crazy but I actually like Zangief in 5. Wasn't huge fan of him in 4, always liked Hakan a lot more but I decided to try him and he's my unofficial VD40 whenever I feel I need to get rid of bad habits and do even more hard work.

>>149466971

If you have a life, GG is not for you.

>>149468761
t. online rolento

Anybody post that screenshot of Cammys Clit bump during her Critical Art?

Thanks buds

>>149469061
>I realized handicaps are what honestly made the game fun for me

This is an acceptable reason to play low tiers.

>If I cannot overcome handicaps without switching to another character, I suck as a player and would suck equally even with a better character against anyone good

But this is false. Stop lying to yourself.

>tfw your footsies and fundamentals increase significantly from playing uniel
Redblade was right all along

>>149469312
We /mkx/ now

>>149468839
It should be hp and then lp, IIRC

>>149469337
Thats just what happens when you play more than one game that isn't street fighter.

>>149469337
What does fundamentals even mean? I see this word thrown around a lot but what exactly does it mean.

>>149469518
you'll understand when you start playing usf4 sagat

>>149469518
I always understood it as having a good understanding of how the neutral game / footsies play out.

Someone with good fundamentals will be able to keep themselves in advantageous situations without necessarily having to knock their opponent down and guess them to death.

Not that there's anything wrong with guessing people to death.

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Fundamentals and honesty.

>>149469518
Spacing, anti airing, understanding of and applying frame data, knowledge of different move properties, proper defensive and offensive play.

>>149469801
unga

Would anyone from the US like to play 3s or SF5?

>>149469518
Basic skills that translate into every other fighting game. This can include but isn't limited to, being aware of and consistently stopping approaches and basic mix-up techniques such as dashes, air-dashes, jump-ins, cross-ups and slow overheads. Understanding a characters tools at a glance and making an effort to stay in their optimal range. Understanding and respecting an opponents proper pressure and knowing when to out-bunga an opponents more fraudulent unga.

This is all my opinion tho.

>>149467134
You go on a spiritual pilgrimage of throwaway characters until one day you realize that winning is less important than being the best, and then you go back to the character you really identified with from the start.

>>149469518
fundamentals refer to the aspects of fighting games that are inherent in every fighting game

usually people are referring to things like spacing, whiff punishing, antiairing, etc when they talk about fundamentals but i'd consider reads and baits to be a part of it as well

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Unga and bunga.

why do fighting game players suddenly care about graphics?

your 3d games never looked good.

>>149470083
Nice vagina bones

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>>149469310
BUMP

anybody saved it?

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What is the most obnoxious top tier and why is it Ryu?

>>149467991
Np problem. I too get angry during fighting games sometimes and misinterpret stuff.

>>149470187
people want to make fun of games they don't like

>>149468318
Best actual fgC event this year.
>>149468463
SFxT only died exactly the moment it wasn't at evo and capcup anymore.

>>149470187
>your 3d games never looked good
pretty sure tekken and sc games were always grafix hallmarks

>>149470328
3s ken

>>149469323
It's not entirely false. Scrub like me switching to top tier won't become suddenly EVO champion 2017 and the next Wong\Daigo\Xian\Kazunoko\whatever, it merely improves odds and efficiency to win and to possibly achieve something.

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>>149466641

I do my share of shitting on Ultracuck but at least he called the game out for being samey shit.

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>>149468717
HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

>>149469518
It means what makes you win at Street Fighter.
Picking top tier
Being unpredictable with your reversals
Tickthrow setups
Not trying to anti air unless you are on the perfect spot
Using not doing anything as a mixup tool

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>>149469312
Here is the next level.
>>149469498
It's proven that only playing sf will make you worse at everything.

>>149469975
Fundamentals apply at such a fundamental level that they even carry over to very specific genre parts like smash, 3d or divekick and senior footsis.

>>149470747
fucking kek

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What was Capcom's reasoning for neutering everyone's range?

How do you expect anyone to actually play footsies when everyone has t-rex limbs? No wonder everyone fucking jumps in this game.

Karin or necalli?
I cant decide myself between the two.
My execution is terrible so i think necalli would be a better fit because his combos are easier than karin ones.

>>149470747
sf4 players are the uncontestable best in the genre

Why couldn't they give Guile an easy damage v-trigger?

The spacing, timing, and exection to optimize this shit is ridiculous for Guiles character.

>>149470965
scrubs get destroyed in neutral
sf5 is a game for scrubs

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>>149470965
SFV is americas game. It will bring back the glory days of sf2 and catch millions of casuals as much as the esports pros. What a time to be a riseupper.

>>149471117

Just shoot all of them, bazooka knee, super. Or force them into a mixup.
I'm not defending it. I'm actually fairly annoyed that he was balanced around it.

Remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9J3q9KcTE

Is Tekken 7 going to save fighting games?

>>149471117
Guile has always had absolutely insane corner execution combos. The only difference now is that he's doing anime-stye wizard sonic boom loops instead of doing all those crazy kicks with the occasional boom thrown in to connect it in the corner.

>>149470083
"Hey look at my 21 invu frames and get juggle either by my DM or my HSDM !"

>>149471183
It still boggles my mind people think that games where you get strong pressure for winning the neutral have no neutral and games where the game gives you free way out reward good neutral more.

>>149471549
I want to get juggled into her BDSM lair

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>>149471448
There was never a need for saving the genre but the CGC needs to be shown the light of other games.

>>149471560

and what exactly does sfv's neutral consist of, diaper?

>>149471654
dash and mash

>>149471654
watch evo2016 and find out.

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>>149466641
Don't forget about the failure and shitfest that was Cross Assault.

so how many times has capcom now said that they're going to step up communication with their fans

>>149471795
How come sfxt damaged tekkens brand way more than sf's?

>>149471864
post-sf4 captards have no standards whereas tekken players do

>>149471117
There is something about Guile Sonic loops that makes me think they weren't intentional. He has the best damage output in the roster thanks of his Sonic Loop combos, and while Guile and high damage aren't exactly new there is something about it that feels weird and not expected.

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>>149471448
It has a good chance of being the most profitable Tekken game ever. Bamco needs to tone down a few elements in gameplay so the T3-T5 casuals return though. And I think Murray said as much in an E3 interview.

>>149471864
It didn't

https://twitter.com/tonosama666/status/756142415191212032

>>149466867
I remember tons of top level players being excited for it just because it wasn't SF4. This continued until Rolento jab pressure.

>>149471785

you can't describe it, can you?

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Reminder that NEO got realllllllly fucking wasted at EVO lmao

>>149471970
>Bamco needs to tone down a few elements in gameplay so the T3-T5 casuals return though. And I think Murray said as much in an E3 interview.
Got any more specifics on that? Also fucking akuma combos make tekken look liek the actual stereotype of 30 second juggles.

>>149472064
Did his bag get stolen again

>>149472063
why don't you use your brain for once anon?

>>149471654
Throwing out random shit because losing neutral means almost nothing. Daddy capcom will hand you your free neutral state without having to take risks even if you get tagged by a poke

>>149472182
Are you an anime player

>>149472159
And his shoes

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>>149471549
>it has invincibility

I had no idea, I just used it as a slow long range attack

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>>149472064
The absolute madman hahaha

>>149472082
It was mentioned in passing. It was the IGN E3 interview. Murray said they were hoping the people that loved T3-T5 would return for 7. He didn't go in specifics.

>>149472261
He's probably a zangief player actually. He's not wrong though.

>>149472064
>fireball
I can only imagine how firey his shits must have been to get sloshed on fireball alone

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>>149472429
Ah I see.

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reminder that SFV is a good game

>>149472430
He's very wrong
Losing neutral in 5 is very bad because of the high damage and stun not to mention crush counters and weak defensive options

He sounds like an anime player upset he can't throw out a random poke and convert it instantly into 50%, corner carry and then mash out 1p setplay

>>149471549
you're mistaking it with UM Yuri slash.

>>149472630
maybein a few years

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>>149471654
i'm glad you asked because i am an expert on this subject

>>149472676
The game won't live that long with the poor profits.

How come we dont see more necalli win tournaments?

>>149472630
Why do people think Combofiend is someone important at Capcom? Capcom USA doesn't do much more than feedback. It's all on Capcom Japan in the end.

>>149472429
The people I know that grew up with T3 never liked the direction the franchise took after T6. I don't think they're coming back to T7.

>>149472690
>(You)
>Diaper
perfect

>>149472816
t. woshige

>>149472690
I would call desynch uf that was every other game with "rollback" netcode

>>149472734
people know the matchup by now. he still places highly. haitani just made mistakes in the last tournaments he played in.

>>149472838
>after 6
Which was 2 games? Not hard to come backf rom that.

I don't even care about balancing for sfv, just fix the delay and functionality for the game for next year. Also it's fucking ridiculous that we are asking a game company to fix their game for next year instead of now.

i think i just made some guy really angry by beating his makoto in 3rd strike with my butter churning hugo

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/jul/24/capcom-versus-marvel-4-announced-for-ps4-and-xb1-at-san-diego-comic-con-will-feature-over-120-characters/
WE DID IT BROS
Fighting games are saved again ;_;7

>>149473078
muh capcom pro tour

people dont have the balls to completely stop playing and buying SFV so capcom is lazy with the fix

if mr wizard announced this year that evo 2016 would be ultra sf4 again and a bunch of top american and japanese players boycotted the CPT you bet your ass capcom would have patched the 8f shit by now

>>149473078
>Also it's fucking ridiculous that we are asking a game company to fix their game for next year instead of now.
>we
Nah, only you are the chronic cuckcomhold here.

>>149473219
>120 characters
>implying Capcom can afford even a third of it
weak bait

>>149473219
Lol desu

>>149473290
Or they would just continue to twiddle their thumps while shitting out more doa5 dlc for the sniffers.

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>>149472956
>people know the matchup by now
What does that really mean? That offensive characters will go down in tier once people know the game near-perfectly?
If i follow that logic in a few years chun and fang will be elder god tier?

>>149473146
Most of the makoto players on fightcade are shit

How does the damage scaling in KoF works? Is it different from each game or is it more or less the same in the entire series (or for the most part)?

I tried doing this bunch of variation of the same Kyo's BNB in KoFXIV and the results were quite weird to me:

1) cr.lk, cr.lp xx lk double kicks into command grab = 225 damage
2) same combo but adding the df.mk after the cr.lp = 242 damage (okay there);
3) same combo as (2) but using the mk version of the double kicks = 221 damage (???)

>>149473384
They can just resuse the marvel 3 models and HD4kVR upscale them.

>>149473290
>you bet your ass capcom would have patched the 8f
>muh 8f
Lmao you wouldn't be good at the game even if it was gone

>>149473468
no, just that player skill becomes more important rather than the character

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>>149473632
>lmao you wouldn't get the 100m wr anyway so why complain about having to run through mud?

>>149473632
learn how to read idiot, i never said anything like the input lag is make me lose. however, it is an issue a lot of people dislike about the game. less input lag is always better.

the ps4 version of ultra had the same amount of input lag and everyone boycotted it until it was fixed. why does SFV get a "free" pass (capcom said they are working on it but i'm skeptical).

i mean come on, we don't even have in-game stats and dailies yet. the game has issues man.

>>149472634
>Getting hit by random pokes in anime
You know you can usually block in the air and most of them have some sort of pushblock. At least marvel and BB do.

>>149473845
they look like theyre having a lot of fun, have you tried not being so bitter, maybe youll be able to enjoy life again

>>149466756
thats not uncanny valley nigga that shit doesnt look any more human than the grill of a car

>>149467134
Pick Chun and TK Legs your way to Platinum

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>>149473479

>>149473632
this is about functionality

>>149473146
He was probably bad

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>>149470276

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dead thread, post merk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfq5b1bppJQ

>>149475589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HT17iLjE7w

i'm just curious, is there anyone here left from the pre-/vg/ fighting game threads? feel like i'm the most og here TO BE H

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>>149472838
Tekken 6 and TTT2 were both kinda poison to casual players. Tekken 7 is already doing better than those games in it being actually visually appealing. Graphics were always a huge part of Tekken's popularity. I remember when PS2 came out and everyone was talking about Tekken Tag Tournament as some amazing graphical showcase for the console. People loved to play those games simply to see what their consoles could do.

Now that we're all playing sf4: who is the best sf4 player ITT? Is it still Broski?

>>149475897
I've been here since the Marvel 3 threads.
>When Vanilla came out, and the Capcom store fucked everyone who ordered the game from them.
Good times. I never even wore that Shuma shirt.

>>149475897
Yeah I remember when /v/ had pretty good BB threads.

Is there something I should read/watch to wrap my head around 3d games like tekken as a 2d fighting game player? Tekken 7 looks sick but I'm ass at tag2/6

>>149475897
didn't these threads start as gg netplay threads or something

someone give me an oral history of fgg

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>>149475589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9CuaJZpxK0

>>149475772
not my kind of music but not too bad. the only jap rock/metal stuff i listen to is maximum the hormone, just because they're so over the top

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs0lu7BIRbY
ignore shit music video of shit anime, cant find good quality version without it

>>149476445
sounds like the soundtrack to a 90s movie

>>149475915
No way he game will run on ps4 and xb1 but the new versions may can handle FR in a HD resolution.

>>149476786
nigga that's korean

>>149476873
so it is
sowwy

>>149476323
i came around in like the latter half of 2008 and everyone was playing 3S on ggpo or nFBA, 3S was my first fighting game

the threads were FILLED with tripfags, most of whom were insufferable. i was one of them.

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>>149476278
Levl up your game.
Also playing them helps a lot.

>>149475580
THANK YOU BROTHER

>>149475897
Yeah but I left for a long time when the entire site went to shit in early 2010. I remember seeing YOYO tripping a lot back then, also pisss. I also used to run sets with xdest in BB. Are they even here still.

>>149477047
madman

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>still 4 to 7 months
I am not sure I can make it till then.

>>149477379
I'm sorry

>>149477267
yoyo, nergal, sho, onso, ema all those faggots
red sniepr too he was the biggest cuck ever

>>149477379
>Use Kimmunicator sound
>Everyone thinks its Power Rangers

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I need you Akiha

Why are anti-air 3 frame jabs a thing?

>>149476069
DSP

>>149468007
how the fuck do you block this

>>149477681
Why do people get so mad about being anti-aired when the jumped?

>>149477771
Calm down, Peter.

>>149477681
they would've been a thing in sf4 too (and sometimes were) if dedicated aas had been as bad as they are in sf5

>>149477713
by not being a vegetable on life support

>>149476323
There used to be Reload and Fightcade netplay threads on /v/ but those weren't fully general yet.
In 2009 we got SF4 and BlazBlue and there were so many threads it was ruining /v/. They were actually some of the first general and led to the creation of /vg/. And there was much less shitposting since it was mostly about helping each other and making rooms (There was a lot more matchmaking going on).
At some point in time /vg/ is created and we moved there but the threads didn't really change.
Now in SF4 general people would often talk about other fighting games and it kind of became a fighting game general naturally. BlazBlue had its own general still because NO ONE liked BlazBlue. If you think kermit and goober posting is bad, it was NOTHING compared to how much BlazBlue was hated. FGG actually played and enjoyed all games with little shitposting and a lot more matchmaking, people were playing SF4, Marvel, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Fightcade games, and Guilty Gear players were there playing other games while fantasizing about a seemingly never coming new Guilty Gear. And all those players got along, but everybody hated BlazBlue. Any mention of BlazBlue would be replied with multiple 2000-words posts explaining why the game was bad, far more advanced than calling each other cucks and posting kermit. I remember someone writing a fucking essay just about how shit the oki was in BlazBlue and it was copypasta for a while.
BlazBlue General eventually became ArcSys General (including Arcana Heart since Arcsys published it). Then came Accent Core +r, and it was apparent that Guilty Gear and BlazBlue players couldn't get along, and the whole general was just shitposting about both games. Persona players said fuck this and moved to Persona general (Which already existed), Guilty Gear players went back to Fighting Games General (Where they already were before the new GG came out), and ArcSys general became BlazBlue general. And Arcana Heart was dead so nobody cared.

>>149477681
because jumps are inherently dishonest and shitters a 100% anti air button in every situation, including crossup protection

the anti air situation was fucking shit in sf4 but it's even worse in 5

>>149476278
play sfv

>once you're up close, you're in mixup territory with mid, low, highs similar to sfv, and unlike past SFs with your one long normal that you can confirm for combos

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>>149477865
I am still mad at how bad they made guiles antiair/braindead good edgelord ryus divekick.

>>149477681
Because jabs are really good in SF5 and the 8 frame delay ruins most of the medium/heavy AA options.

They're just not fast enough to compensate for the added delay.

>>149477713
you don't

Haven't posted here in a while.
Are Donnie and Ibiza still around?

>>149478068
someone post that webm of me trying to anti air matthias's jump, i lost it long ago
at least guile's flash kick is quite reliable in sf5

>>149478013
You never oplayed tekken.

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>>149478221

>>149477000
Hi YOYO.

I want to kiss Juri!

>>149478472
>G O D L I K E S K I L L

What the fuck were capcom thinking when they made vegas dive + on block? Like congratulations nigga u blocked a mixup! Here, let us reward you with having to block more!

>>149478472
what the fuck

>Decide to put the work in as F.A.N.G.
>Make it up to silver
>Literally nothing but bisons and lauras
>Shit all over me
>Back down to super bronze

It was nice while it lasted

>>149478654
To be fair, he did that ultra extremely early.

It still probably would have lost if he did it later though.

>>149478472
>lets all go back to usf4
fucking lmao lads

>>149478606
just dp it or walk under/jump a2a it

he only gets a legit setup on it in the corner i think. it's a pressure and mixup tool, ofc it's going to be +

*hits with you a half screen normal*
Footsies

>>149478472
this is our war

>all these kids using their autofootsies puzzlepiecing meme characters who think they have "fundamentals"

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>>149477379
seems to have been deleted, let me help

>>149478842
If you're know they're going to do it, walk out of its range and whiff punish it

Most of the longer normals in games have shit recovery times

>>149478842
*airdashes into full corner carry*

Foozies

>>149478606
http://youtu.be/TDedwdyPyv4
Hope this helps.

>>149479020
What the fuck were capcom thinking with their frame data in general? Were they thinking?

>>149478808
are you saying you don't like combo video ryu?

>>149478842
*dashes forward, dashes back, low forward super*
psh.........

>>149479020
>implying youre not gonna get blasted in the face if the vega doesnt decide to not fast-fall from the wall
true trainingboar skills

>>149479017
jokes on you, I already had a poke out controlling the IAD space because I actually know how to play the neutral game in anime.

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how the fuck are you supposed to react to nash's dash

i'm not really good at fighting games but why do people say there are no footsies in SFV?

is it because a lot of the neutral happens at close ranges? you still people whiff punishing and counterpoking preemptively in high level play.

if possible i would like a real answer with a minimum of memes.

>>149479236
It has footsies it's just more predictory than reactory and the normals are really stubby

>>149466986
The entire alpha series is one big abortion my dude

>>149478818
Vega gets decent mixup too situation if you end combo in v-trigger (or just raw v-trigger) in midscreen. EX FBA to the wall behind you after the rose and if your opponent quickrises you can get meaty grab, potentially ambiguous crossup or just bait a dp.

>>149479182
*full screen beak drivers because anon is mashing 6p in 'anticipation'*

foozies

>>149479020
>Only 3 characters can punish it
Why do you do this Capcom what reasoning is there for something like this

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>>149479182
>anime
>neutral

>>149478473
nah i'm not yoyo, but i had him added on msn back then, the 4chan fgc was a slightly bigger circlejerk than it is now

>>149478842
*mortal slides you and steals your grid*
GRIMU REAPAH

>>149479186
Already have a normal out when he does it.

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I honeslty never got the complaints about SF4 anti airs.

>b-but x character has bad AAs

then play someone else if you want good AAs, you're not forced to play x character, at least half the cast had perfectly usable AAs.

>>149479502
Ashimilation

>>149473479
>Most of the [waifu shitters] on [game] are shit

Who would have guessed

>>149479560
Those people just want an OS for being terrible at the game, same way people in SF5 whine about how their character is garbage because they don't have a meterless DP, despite never even considering switching to one of the ones that does.

Can someone teach a Silver scrub how to get better as I learn stick?

CFN: Rebellion

>>149479017
*j.D counterhit with Sol for 60%*
Heh. Too easy.

>>149479406
footsies were always a predictive and reactive thing though.

big ass slow buttons you can react to but faster ones you had to make a read. not excusing the 8f stuff but SFV isn't that dissimilar to past games i feel.

the normals do feel stubby at times though, i get that complaint.

>>149479445
6P isn't a poke for controlling air space though, it's for counterhitting or for reaction to jumps. A poke for air space would be something like Pot 5S or any of Sols air buttons

>play ttt2 with a kazuya and armor king team
>open the round with an electric
>it hits like 90% of the time

why does this work so much

>love chun li playstyle and gameplan
>shit tier execution
What should i do ?

>>149479780
Not really in sf4's case. Like you can sweep ryus cr mk on reaction even online if you've got good reactions

>>149479560
Brick what happened to you? YOu are only shitposting these days. Is the slave labor in the risotto mines this taxing on your mind?

>>149479995
play nash

>>149479995
Play her in 3s

>>149479995
practice your execution

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>>149479497
>on msn
>msn

>>149479925
Because Tekken start positions are extremely close. It encourages instantly pressing a button and you one that is very hard to not lose to.

>>149480006
I'd lose my mind too if I couldn't play fun games with any cool people.

What does KoF 2002 UM have that vanilla 2002 doesn't and is it worth buying it when I can just fightcade 2002.

>>149479925
you must be playing against bad players

>>149480119
is that supposed to be freeza?

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What is this and why do I have it saved?

>>149466081

- Everyone gets a one button anti-air
- Everyone gets an air dash
- Everyone gets air blocking
- No link buffer
- CvS2 Grooves
- 3 Supers to pick between per character
- 50 characters
- GGPO netcode

>>149480004
yea, i guess V leans more toward the predictive side. i can see why some ple would dislike that. hope they patch the 8f stuff but overall i still really like V.

>>149480168
i am, i'm ass too but no one blocks. i thought tekken players were supposed to be smarter lol

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>Ryu/Ken players actually believe I'm going to give them points if I lose

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>>149480329
so i can post this

Ryu mirror in sf4 anyone? Honest players ONLY!!!

>>149479560
Couldn't you say the same thing for SFV AA though? I mean, the "if you want this tool then pick a character that has it" it's true but it really is part of a bigger issue that is generally shared by the entire roster (which isn't true for both SFIV and SFV).

>>149480507
cute :3c

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When?

pros of sf v:
>not sf iv

pros of sf iv:
>not sf v

>>149479560
Name one SF4 character with worse antiairs than Karin in SFV.

are there any videos of choksae playing FR?

>>149480482
Low ranks are mostly filled with mashers. You'll have to go to player match to find smarter opponents until you can reach yellow ranks or so.

>>149480757
Bison

>>149480757
>karin
>bad AAs
what

s.LP
early s.HP
early c.HP (kinda shitty hitbox but it can work)
EX whatever the fuck move is the uppercut
dash/command dash under

>>149480757
Vega

>>149480161
Some balance changes, more attacks in some characters cases, completely different backgrounds, trials, more (OP boss) characters and a shit netcode.

Remember how hype the SFxT trailers were?

Is SFxT the MGSV of fighting games?

Watching Nemo playing Vega. Got a bit burned out of all the Nash/Chun/Ryu footage and watching a character that is a bit less used is always fun and interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmwzbt0oAC0

I noticed that he doesn't seem to use the Claw on stance too much unlike the clawless mode. I guess the switching on Claw on mode isn't really worth it considering the bad hitboxes of this mode (despite the safe-ish new Aurora whatever special). He also reaaaaaaaally likes those raw Flying Barcelona Attacks, especially the EX ones on clawless mode.

>>149475897
I browsed v sf4 threads in 2010 then fgg threads in 2011 when vg was made
Took a break from 2013 till recently tho

>>149480757
vega and bison and arguably rashid

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>Brentiscool bitching about how "bad" Ken is compared to Cammy
>loses to a silver Karin doing overhead mixups over and over

Kek, why is this faggot relevant again?

>>149480705
>>149480705
>>149480705
>>149480705
>>149480705

>>149480757

Vega.

Who incidentally has the worst aa in 5 as well.

>>149481004
I had fun playing MGSV so no

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sf4 eu anyone?

I guess I can play some 5 too if u really want to

>>149480787
What nationallity is he?
>>149481004
SFxT was at least a complete game that gut gutted into dlc. SFV is the incomplete garbage that plays nothing like the past games in the series, just like mgsv.

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>>149479186
>he can't react to a 22 frame dash

>>149481217
he's south korean

>>149481260
22-8

>>149480956
have fun anti-airing ryu's jump short with slow normals on top of 8 frames.

her crossunders are pretty good though.

(a)149481069
>image.png
Fuck off, kid.

>>149480895
>>149481018
>SF4 Bison
>bad AAs
what did they mean by this?

>>149481018
>rashid
>in sf4
capcucks everyone.

>>149481069
Yeah, I feel like Ken players shouldn't complain too much considering how strong their character is.

He was right when he said that Ryu is better at anything Ken can do though.

>>149481361
>>149481369
oops

>>149481309
I guess you have to gid on the typical accounts like wonky or the tekken 7 streamers on twitter and youtube. Greenarcade could have some matches with him.

>>149481352
not an argument

>>149481509
yea, that's what im doing now but wading through these videos is od

wish knee would play kazuya more, his shit his easy to find

>>149481010
Clawless Flying Barcellona Attacks are really good, they're strong, they have decent frame data and they're good combo starters. They can be really risky for Vega if he's playing a character with a strong AA game though.

>>149479186
you aren't. stay out of dash up grab range or preemptively jab when in range.

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>>149481369
>he didn't unlock Rashid in SFIV by perfecting the AI in Cammy's arcade mode with cannon spike only
>>>/v/

Karin, Alex, Chun, Birdie, have normals with good reach, I don't really think you say that sfv is al stubby normals.

If the the game had even a frame less of lag the neutral would be more natural and dashes less powerful.

>>149480329
i made this because someone complained that one of my webms was too small

>>149481784
>the whole point is to make a game based on reads
>hurr let's remove 8f
besides the difference between 8f and 5f is only 3f it's not a lot

EU SFV anyone?

>>149481260
You're not accounting for the 8 frame delay and Nash's weird dash animation that has him sitting perfectly still for the first 4 or 5 frames

You still have about 12 frames to react to it though, which is on par with some of the dashes in 3s or Alpha

Definitely possible, but hard

>>149481315
*22-8-8
You have to count the frames where Nash doesn't do a single thing

I'm new to the fighting game scene. What does free and thuggery mean?