/fog/ - Fallout General

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MADONNA !!!!!

>>149461660
To expand on my jet theory - Could it be retconned to be aerosol? It's got pretty much all the signs of huffing just with brahmin shit. Could brahmin shit fumes actually be used to make an aerosol? Maybe there are other things added to it during production?

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xth for best girl

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Anyone playing Fallout 1.5 Resurrection? can you recommend a starting S.P.E.C.I.A.L?

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Institute is best faction
Curie is best girl

That is all.

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>>149461864
I really don't like this pose at all, mainly because a lot of artists go for the "boobs and butt in the same frame" thing and always fuck up the spine.

>>149461660
>>149461978
It could be that Jet was so addicting because it was so new, and as time has gone by there's been a slight resistance built up (sense there really isn't a lot of Wastelanders that never ever use drugs)

Also, making a new raider, decided to try something different
- Sugar-Addict - I can only heal with sugary foods and sodas, only exception is radaway (should I make myself see doctors instead?)
Always have to be eating sugar
No chems
Melee only
10 agility to show my permanent sugar rush.
Thoughts?

>>149462075
Man, fuck the spine. Look at her arms.
Also, Curie is shit. That is all.

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-"Wow, I am most impressed by her brutish physique."
-"I agree, it is hard to take my eyes off her striking visage."

>>149462151
That can't really apply to the SS as it is a meat popsicle from 200+ years ago in-game. Could just be a refinement of the jet recipe or other regional variation.

>>149462263
>gameplay = lore
Come on dude, let's not do that one. I'm speaking of in general because addictions have been kinda hard to get right off the bat since FO3.

Is there any way to get Curie as a fully functioning companion without having to put up with the questline?
I don't want to progress through the main questline but want her as my companion...
The best I can get is her in the Ms. Handy model but can't get her the synth body until I progress further into the main questline.
I tried spawning her but she's a complete mute and doesn't respond, although unkillable as an actual companion...

>>149461929

I don't think anyone's done multiple runthroughs, so it's hard to say what you might miss out on if you dump one score over another. I'd probably distribute my scores like I would for standard Fallout 2, depending on what you want - high charisma if you want a lot of followers, high intelligence if you want a lot of speech options, high agility if you want to be useful in fights at all, etc.

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>>149461660
I started my second playthrough today.
My girl pretty much is the default Nora except for hazel green eyes.

I'm just about to acquire Preston and I feel bored already.

Is a melee build viable, on hard difficulty? What about pistol? Or do the enemies become to much of a bullet sponge?

>>149462394
You can go straight to Vault 81, get Curie until she wants to be a human, then go to goodneighbor and do it without even going to diamond city.

>>149462151
>It could be that Jet was so addicting because it was so new, and as time has gone by there's been a slight resistance built up (sense there really isn't a lot of Wastelanders that never ever use drugs)

That's not how that works.

>>149462474

Melee is the most viable build in the game no matter the difficulty.

>>149462571
>that's not how that works
then enlighten me? I'm not an expert at being addicted to drugs.

>>149462538
I've tried it, got her to the doctor in Goodneighbor but she won't recognise me until I do the dream shit where I chase Kelogg, I can't be bothered with the main questline, I just want to explore with a companion.
I can't get the synth body until I'm at a certain point with the main questline, end of.

>>149462474

Melee is a ball-buster at low levels, but after a certain level you turn into a killing machine. It's particularly effective on human enemies, which you can use special parries and takedown moves on.

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My waifu is shiny! My waifu is enormous and shiny!

>>149462812
Can't help but think of JoJo's Bizzare Adventures when I see that

>>149462687
Try:
startquest 16454e
or
setstage 16454e 100

>>149462739
I never played melee long enough to figure out, but how do you combat enemies blocking your attacks all the time? The worst part for me about melee was that no matter if I had a sledgehammer and the low level raider I'm fighting had a switchblade he'd still be able to block my attack and nullify like all the damage.

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>>149462907
setstage 125, rather

>http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Emergent_Behavior

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Requesting pornstars that look similar to this girl, facewise.

>>149462646

There's nothing magical about it. When you get physically addicted to a drug (rather than just being psychologically dependent on whatever it does to you), your body comes to rely on it. For example, if the drug stimulates a rush of dopamine enough times, your body will produce and release less dopamine of its own volition because it assumes a steady supply of the drug is the new normal. The longer you use a drug, the more addicted you'll become.

I suppose a person could become more *psychologically* resistant to addiction if they regularly go through cycles of addiction and withdrawl, but that wouldn't be anything physiological, it would just be strengthening your own willpower in the face of physical cravings.

Of course, Fallout is a pretty pulpy and comic booky universe, so I guess ignoring this wouldn't be contrary to theme.

>>149462965

VATS.

>>149463158
Try looking in the "gold star dykes who only do assplay" category

>>149462965

After a while you get a feel for the timing, but I think the special attacks will also override their parry if successful. I've read those come down to a SPECIAL check.

Note that this works both ways. Human enemies and some creatures (yao guai, deathclaws) will occasionally lock you into kill animations even if you block their attack, if their attack would have killed you normally. This can be aggravating when you hit certain level plateaus at which enemies can knock off like 60% of your HP with one unblocked attack.

>>149463232
I was talking about an innate tolerance tho, sorry my wording was vague.

>>149463280
So what, you just play the whole game in VATS? That's gay as fuck pham.

>>149463514
Admittedly it was kind of the only way to bearably deal with NV and FO3's gunplay

>>149463514

No, faggot, but sometimes enemies will just keep blocking no matter what, and one of the game's prominent gameplay features makes that instantly irrelevant.

>finished the game twice
>start new survivor run just now
>fully clear sanctuary for mats
>discover root cellar

how have I missed this every time

I'm almost certain I miss 50% of things whenever I explore. the cellar is the comfiest spot to camp by far.

>>149463491

That's just the thing, you can't "train" your innate tolerance. I...guess several generations of natural selection in a drug-filled environment could eventually produce people with a much stronger genetic, innate tolerance to addiction, but that would take quite a bit longer than 200 years.

>>149463095
Every stage works but the 125 doesn't seem to do anything, I've already tried skipping parts during her questline but Doctor Amari still doesn't recognise me and won't let me open dialogue for her to change Curie to the synth body version..
I think I'm just gonna need to progress through the main quest.

>>149463474
>some creatures will occasionally lock you into kill animations
It's bad enough Bethesda thought this was acceptable in Skyrim

>chase bandit overlord's AI around a table for like 3 minutes, chipping away at his health until he's down to like 1/5th
>he animation locks me and kills me instantly, despite the fact that I easily could have evaded his attack as I have been doing for 3 minutes already

fuck off bethesda

>>149463158
Tori Black?

>>149463850
In all my playtime of skyrim I have never once had a monster except dragons lock me in a kill cam, and even then, the dragon had already gotten me down to like /10 of my HP.

In Fallout 4 I've had it happen literally all of one time.

>>149463969
Cool?

Friendly reminder

Fallout:

- Fallout
- Fallout 2
- Fallout: New Vegas

TES:

- Arena
- Daggerfall
- Morrowind

Shittesda:

- Oblivion
- Oblivion with guns
- Skyrim
- Skyrim with guns

>>149463752
I'm not saying they "train it"
I'm basing it off of say an alcohol tolerance because that one's easy - Slavs (literally) have a higher average alcohol tolerance than the general Indo-european. I'm saying that it's possible wastelanders have a higher average intoxicant tolerance due to intoxicants being so widespread.
Now, yeah, it would take longer than 200 years, but military records definitely say they were testing psycho and mentats on military personnel for a good while (Explains Nate, I wouldn't know about Nora but mentats).
It doesn't make perfect logical sense but I don't think Fallout will ever do more than give logic some lip service.

>>149464201
Agreed.

>>149464201
Who let /v/ in here

>>149464201

Why can't they just separate pants and shirts?
Why?
Why did they suddenly lose that ability in Oblivion?

It's not like their full clothing suits even scale that well with body variability, it's so fucking annoying.

>>149463969
I think its more of a problem on higher difficulties.

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>>149463867

Needs more eyebrows. But will definitely try looking for latinas.

>>149463969
Skyrim is fuckeasy compared to Fallout.
That being said, I can't count how many times humanoid enemies lock me into killmoves on Skyrim. Not as bad in FO but I don't play melee except when I wanna do some sneeki breeki shit so there's always that.

>>149463158

Why do you want to see a real person with a disgusting bethesda engine face?

>>149462151
Build sounds good

Do you ever see anyone else jump in Fallout 4?

>>149464371
>Why can't they just separate pants and shirts?
Because they wanted to avoid the mistakes of Morrowind's armor system which had so many different armor pieces that none of it mattered because you could still get god-like DR even while half armored.

You know, the same reason the overwhelming majority of RPGs keeps shit down to just
helm
body
feet
arms
shield

it helps game balance, and allows more NPCs on the screen since the game isn't having to render as many separate items anymore.

>>149461660
xth for the literal only problem I have with the Voice Actor is how mute he is when walking around
>gives me pre-war character
>apparently doesn't care enough about the place he lived being turned into a nuclear hellscape to comment about it

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>>149464585

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Here.

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posting to this thread also

>>149459726
>>149459868
still having this problem, reset the ini files, but increased FoV (the only tweak)

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>>149464787
Yes please. I do hope stuff like this get's modded in soon.

>>149464875
someone had an image of ada with mini nuke tits, and there was a diver suit with big tits.

>>149464605
>it helps game balance, and allows more NPCs on the screen since the game isn't having to render as many separate items anymore.

Morrowind had separate shoulder armor, separate gauntlets, and robes that could be layered over other sets of clothes.

That's not the same thing as separating pants and a shirt.

It's also clearly not as much of a concern today, when the difference is only like 15 citizens in Balmora in 2001 or whenever Morrowind came out compared to 20ish in Diamond City in 2015.

I just want to be able to wear slacks and be shirtless.

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>>149464875

>>149462687
If you just want Curie to have a human body without going through all the quests and hassle it's like three minutes in the GECK to make a mod where she has it from start.

>>149465079
> compared to 20ish in Diamond City in 2015.
Lol, theres more then 30 NPcs outside in Diamond City during the day

not to mention all the other shit wrong with your comparions lke the fog that always existed 5 feet in front of you in Morrowind so they game didn't have to load stuff since it couldn't handle it.

>>149464787
>>149464875
>>149465118
soft
squishy walls
constantly oiled
oozing
with it

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>>149465118
>>149464965
Yeah that's my pic. I should take a better one.

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>>149465387
muh dick

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>>149465586
Assualtron sex mod when?

>>149465251

Oh, sorry.
They doubled, or tripled the number of NPCs in like 15 years, but also managed to make most of them nameless one-comment background elements.

Such progress.

And I still can't run around shirtless. Great trade off, though!

>>149465723
When you stop namefagging without contributing

>>149465843
>they tripled the number of NPCs
>Increased graphical capabilities
>increased draw distance
>allowed you to see graphical capabilities as well as NPC's in said draw distance
>not a lot of progress
wow. you probably think developing an entire new engine for the game wasn't a moneysink unless they utilize it for atleast 4 sellout titles as well.
Or you're just not putting much thought into it, either way.
Bravo.

>>149465843
>but also managed to make most of them nameless one-comment background elements.
You mean like how most people in a city would respond to a person who comes up to them randomly and starts asking questions?

Better then the
"Hi my name is bullshit, and im a high elf mage allied with the Mage's guild, I was born in the year XXX, and under the sign of YYY, and I know all this shit about stuff you should already know as a character who lives in the world, but that I am perfectly willing to just splurg at you in the form of world atlas/encyclopedia info dumps as if it was a perfectly reasonable thing to do!"
shit in Morrowind

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>tfw there will never be a Fallout board game with cool ass minis

>>149466160
Wait a sec, wasn't there a fallout branded monopoly?

>>149465251
>30 NPCs in Diamond City

Oooh, so... just like in Megaton in Fallout 3?

Great, they didn't even managed to improve their own games in 8 years.

>>149466246
Pretty sure he's talking about a board game that isn't shit

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>>149466246
Yup. Not a big deal though. Monopoly is boring and you can't shoot people.

>>149466349
Ah, fair enough. Then, beats the hell out of me.

>>149466349
i think he was talking about board game as in tabletop rpg or 40k style.

>>149466405
Well in some families

>>149462075
cute device/would wife

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>>149466160

>>149466145
>Better then the
>then

And no, it's not.
If you think the painfully limited voice acting in Fallout 4 is worth that trade, you must be 13.

>>149466069

>not a lot of progress

It really isn't.

They're still using the same engine they used for Oblivion, and they still have most of the same problems with it.

And Oblivion really wasn't that much of a step up from Morrowind.

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>>149466349
Exactly

>>149466439
Something along those lines. Maybe not as many minis though. Skirmish or something?

>>149466615
>opinion
Okay.

>>149466642
40k has skirmish rules, they're just old and outdated.

>>149464813
does nobody know what causes this? i want to play my game for fucks sake

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>>149466569

>>149462075
I-I want to FUCK that phone!

>>149466615
>FO4 has been in development since 2009
Kind of makes sense they wouldn't change the game engine mid-development.
Duke Nukem forever ring any bells?

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>>149466861

>>149467076
>*some people complain combat is too easy and they go through the game without dying and ever using stimpacks
>I have no explanation for this phenomenon.
>could be a different (leaked?) version
>dying in a bethesda game
>ever
Kek.

>>149466947

>FO4 has been in development for six years

You're not helping your argument, kiddo.
Six years and they made a shitty rip-off of the Mass Effect dialogue system with even less conversation dynamics than the limited ones that Mass Effect used.

Six years to come up with the ground breaking "find your missing family member" storyline complete with a botched version of New Vegas' faction system.

Six years to finally make good looking faces (by the standards of 2009).

Six years to decide laser rifles and laser pistols should just be the same weapon.

Six years to add in building mechanics worse than Fallout 3 mods people made within 3 months of release.

Six years to add in lobsters and Mirelurk queens (the latter of which were added like 5 months before release).

Really worth the wait.

>>149467532
>Opinions
Okay. See you next release.

>>149467631
Not him, but I really can't tell if you're baiting or is a Bethdrone.

>>149465387
We need squishy Assaultron bits with jigglebones
would that even be possible?

>>149467724
You can't argue with personal taste mate, you can only bait them into questioning yours.

>>149467631

>opinions

So it didn't take six years to make?
You just said it did.

Do you think Fallout 4's dialogue system is better than Mass Effect?
Do you actually think there weren't better building mods than what bethesda put into the game?
Do you think the faces look as good as shit from like the Witcher 2?
Do you not think it's weird that there's only one scene in the game where a character moves around during dialogue?

What do you think an opinion is?

>>149467749
It would be, havok enabled BnB in skyrim was possible. Hell even F:NV and FO3. Even oblivion had BnB.

>>149467784
>you tacking six years in front of your opinion makes it factual
Okay.
>mass effect
Never played it, first one sucked too much.
>building mods
I only remember one, and it was garbage. Feng-shui and the CK was all you needed.
>witcher two
Haven't played that one either.
>only one scene where character moves around
Not really, the dialogue reminds me of SWTOR's system. Mostly head movements and in FO4's case facial expressions.
Most easily seen when piper is asking you to come to her office and when the dialogue ends she suddenly starts sneering at you.

Any mods to make Technical Documents/Blood Samples not useless if you wipe out the BoS?
You'd think the Institute would be all over that shit.

>>149468058

>never played it
>first one sucked

So you did play it?

>haven't played the Witcher 2

So you play anything else besides Bethesda games, you fucking weirdo?

>most easily seen when piper is asking you to come to her office and when the dialogue ends she suddenly starts sneering at you.

?
I'm referring to when you first meet her, her gestures vividly instead of standing there with an idle animation, and then for the rest of the game she just stands there during conversations with an idle animation like everyone else.

But you seem like someone who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, so stop speaking and don't reply to this.

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who else?

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>>149468264
>you have to play a game to know it sucks
I didn't play it, I apologize for confusing you by not putting "looked" in there.
>witcher two
I don't play vidya much at all lad, GTAV and FO are my two of choice at the moment. Kind of have other hobbies that suck up time and money.
>?
thanks for specifying. I don't know why that is. Do you?

>>149468319
>/co/
>Nick
>not Kent
You fucked up.

>>149468576
I thought about putting him but I was worried no one would recognize Ghoul in Suit #6

>>149468657
Literally the only memorable quest in the game

>>149467532
Not him but

>Six years to come up with the ground breaking "find your missing family member" storyline
Why does the story have to be groundbreaking? Why cant it just follow the same themeatic trend as every other fallout sans NV took?

>with a botched version of New Vegas' faction system.
Actually, it worked far better then Nv's since it lacked the reputation system of NV which turned every NPcs in Nv into an all knowing psychic, and prevented you from double dealing.

>Six years to finally make good looking faces (by the standards of 2009).
They still look fine to me even today.

>Six years to decide laser rifles and laser pistols should just be the same weapon.
But they aren't, hence why you need several mods that alter stock and barrel to change a pistol to a rifle.

Also, are you seriously suggesting that the Fallout 4 weapon modding system isn't really good, and that it didn't greatly improve how weapons functioned?

>Six years to add in building mechanics worse than Fallout 3 mods people made within 3 months of release.
There was no mod for Fallout 3 that added better building then Fo4. all the Fallout 3 building mods were terribly limited, and had terrible clipping issues.

>Six years to add in lobsters and Mirelurk queens (the latter of which were added like 5 months before release).
The mirelurks in Fallout 3 were part lobster though.

>>149468517

>I don't know why that is. Do you?

Because Bethesda is so lazy it apparently took them six years to animate one character for one scene, I guess. There wouldn't be any other explanation.

Maybe some good-natured type came in on the weekend to animate Piper once and then someone said, "Haha, nice one, but the game will sell either way. Go put another pair of skeletons making out in a bathroom."

>I don't play vidya much at all lad

Weird that you'd be spending your time here, then.
Odd that one of "those" people who only play GTA, or COD, or I guess the latest Bethesda open-world game would be a regular enough 4chan poster to be coming, not even to /v/, but to /vg/.

Weird that you'd think Mass Effect "looked suck" but you think Fallout 4 looks fine.

And yes, you do have to play a game to personally know that it sucks.

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>Tfw no GRA style DLC which included new weapons and new moda for existing weapons.

>>149468749
>>149468817
Holy fuck do you cunts EVER shut up? Every fucking thread it's the same thing, two retards greentexting every line of each other's posts, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>>149468817
So you don't know.

>you have to be a fat vidya addicted neckbeard to ever browse /vg/
Honestly, this is the best fanfic ever. Do I get the girl at the end?

>weird that you don't like X but like Y
I know right? It's almost like one has nothing that interests me and the other does!

So you have to be a developer to know that Bethesda's devs were lazy.
Checkm8

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>>149469008
>>149468817
>>149468749
>>149468517
>>149468264
>>149468058
JUST GET THE FUCK OUT

>>149468845
>No GRa style DLC that adds ton of weapons that play exactly like tons of other weapons already i nthe game and that you wont use 90% of since they are far worse then weapons you already have.

So you are complaining that they aren't wasting thier time on a DLC that people will get even less out of then the workshop DLC?

this is a bad thing how?

>>149469141
no, u

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>>149469235
No u jew

>>149469174
Personally i dont really care about workshop shit. I feel like the strong point of the game was combat, being much better than the older games. So like, more weapons and mods might make the game more fun for me.

>>149468749

>Why does the story have to be groundbreaking? Why cant it just follow the same themeatic trend as every other fallout sans NV took?

It doesn't have to be. But they went out of their way to try and make it more 'cinematic' than any of their past games and that doesn't work at all with a story that's still on the same generic level as waking up in prison and getting your freedom suddenly, or whatever.

>Actually, it worked far better then Nv's since it lacked the reputation system of NV which turned every NPcs in Nv into an all knowing psychic, and prevented you from double dealing.

Yeah, there's no reason a faction should have a negative opinion of you if you fuck them over several times. Kill all the BoS knights in the field that you want, Maxson will never find out.

And there's simply less factions in 4, to boot.

>They still look fine to me even today.

Then you simply have no taste. The Witcher 3 had a more dense, more graphically intense open-world and they still managed to have better faces, better bodies, better animations, etc. and generally the same amount of useless NPCs wandering around.

>But they aren't, hence why you need several mods that alter stock and barrel to change a pistol to a rifle.
No, just a stock and a longer barrel.

>Also, are you seriously suggesting that the Fallout 4 weapon modding system isn't really good, and that it didn't greatly improve how weapons functioned?

It would've been great if it came out in like 2010. At least in shit like Call of Duty you can change your gun's color and shit.

>all the Fallout 3 building mods were terribly limited, and had terrible clipping issues.

So does the building system in Fallout 4.

>The mirelurks in Fallout 3 were part lobster though.

Who cares? I'd rather have those mutant dolphins be alive in the water than another type of Mirelurk.

>>149469174
It shouldn't be more mods, it should be different mods. Less real life and more Borderlands.

>>149469174
You wouldn't rather have more new guns regardless than fucking random conveyor belt nonsense?

>>149469573
modders are perfectly adept at making guns I like. I'd rather see something that they can't do very well.

>>149464330
>Fallout general

>>149469643
But everything Bethesda does besides hire voice actors has been done better in at least one mod.

>>149469643
But they can't make new animations which is the only thing that makes a gun actually different. I'd pay 10 bucks for a fucking pump action shotgun alone.

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I think that's it, I'm bored with this game. Probably won't play it until next DLC.

What should I play ?

Why are there like a billion lesbians in Fallout 4?
There are more dykes than you'd ever see in real life.

>>149469725
Yeah. That's kinda what Bethshit aims for.
Like, I dunno if you noticed, but since Morrowind their games have included a lot more of a base to build on than an already finished canvas.
That's because even today Skyrim is relevant because modders took that base and built them up for Beth.
And it kept Bethesda rolling in profit. So they're doing it again, and again, so that people can build off the base instead of horrendous scripting in a broken mechanic. (NV settlement mods I'm looking at you).
Is it shitty? Yeah.
Will it work? Probably.

>>149469903
Name 10 lesbians in FO4.

>>149469903
There were more lesbians in NV, desu
and thankfully none were essential

>>149469447
>and that doesn't work at all with a story that's still on the same generic level as waking up in prison and getting your freedom suddenly
I personally felt like it added a far greater reason for me to care about what was going on then any previous Fallout game did.

>there's no reason a faction should have a negative opinion of you if you fuck them over several times.
That's not what I said, I was saying theres no reason for a faction to have a negative opinion of you if they have no logical way of knowing what you did.

Fallout 4's scripted triggers work far more on logic then Nv's "everyone just KNOWS everything you did", and the factions, and your actions with them, thus act more believable because of it.

>The Witcher 3 had a more dense, more graphically intense open-world
And Witcher 3's world was about as dynamic at GTA, aka 99.99% of everything is rooted to one spot forever, and basically nothing has physics attached to it since it was never designed to move.

On the other hand, every piece of mutfruit, and every wooden block, in Fallout 4 can be picked up and thrown with actual physics.

Its is really any wonder why Bethesda game usually have lower overall graphics when they do far more then any other game does in terms of interactivity with the game world?

>and generally the same amount of useless NPCs wandering around.
Yeah, and those NPCs would stand outside 24/7 repeating the same stories over and over again on an endless loop, whereas Fallout 4's NPcs have schedules, and do shit like eat and sleep.

>It would've been great if it came out in like 2010.
Name another RPGs that has the same level of player' controllable weapon customization by default.

>So does the building system in Fallout 4.
I've never had clipping issues with Fallout 4's building system, in fact, people often complain that the game WON'T let them clip things at all. And even with just vanilla I have far more building options then those mods, and the DLc add even more

>>149469864

Need For Speed Most Wanted 2005

>>149470025
ur mum
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>>149469810
>I'd pay 10 bucks for a fucking pump action shotgun alone.

You're what's wrong with this industry. But I'd buy it too, desu.

>>149469573
>more guns that I will nbever use
>a mean to produce shit like weapons and armor, a thing I previously didn't have access too.

Second one sounds like a far more worthwhile game mechanic to me

>>149470183
its just a matter of time, now that the fucking too is out

You gotta be pretty scummy to rip off a mod

>>149470139
>On the other hand, every piece of mutfruit, and every wooden block, in Fallout 4 can be picked up and thrown with actual physics.

But that always sucks and works poorly

>>149470271
So I guess obsidian and bethesda are in the same boat, considering how blatantly NV ripped off some popular FO3 mods. (WMK specifically)

>>149470314
But it's still there while the comparison doesn't have it, no?

>>149470314
I have never had a problem with it.

>>149470249

I was talking about the "sorting" machines.
Also the ball track bullshit.

That's useless, I'd literally rather have one new weapon than any of that.

>>149470139
>On the other hand, every piece of mutfruit, and every wooden block, in Fallout 4 can be picked up and thrown with actual physics.
And? What does this adds to the game?

Like, seriously, I see a lot of Bethards talking about "muh clutter!", but it is just clutter, literally nobody cares about that.
If there were destructible environments then it would be really fucking cool to have clutter, but there isn't.
Being able to move a mutfruit isn't a "better interaction with the game world".

>>149470371
>So I guess obsidian and bethesda are in the same boat, considering how blatantly NV ripped off some popular FO3 mods. (WMK specifically)

NWN2 was knows for taking some balancing changes from NWN1 mods and incorperating them into Nwn2 as well.

Basically any game with mods, or that allows customer user content, has some of the better content added to future releases or updates.

Only a dev who is a complete moron wouldn't go
>Hey modders are making a lot of X, maybe we should add X into the game ourselves!

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>mfw checking the status of the nvidia contest shitshow
So when do you think they'll start nuking votes so Eli wins as intended?

>>149470371
>WMK specifically

But that's a completely different thing, they both work in extremely different way, and you know Obsidian actually worked and made a decent crafting and cooking and weapon mods system
Bethesda literally just ctrol + c, ctrl + v everything from Autumn Leaves, including the bloody vault layout

>>149470508
Interactivity.
If I walk on a table shit should fall off.
If my foot hits something it should move.
if there's an explosion shit should get thrown around the room, not just explode and fall to the ground like I hit it with a bat.

>>149470508
>And? What does this adds to the game?
It makes the game more realistic and believable then shit like GTA or the Witcher 3 where everything is glued into one spot forever.

>>149470183
I never buy DLC unless it actually adds to the content. Expansion packs, addons, whole storylines - that sort of stuff. But something so fucking basic, in a shooter like a pump action shotgun, just missing is fucking infuriating.

Same with Dawnguard, only bought that one because it added crossbows and talents for the beast forms.

>>149470371
Including real life mechanics =/= ripping of everything from a work of fiction

>>149470526
>Hey modders are making a lot of X, maybe we should add X into the game ourselves!

Pretty much this unless they do the exact same thing or actually take content, I don't have a problem with it.

Its like being upset when games influence each other.

>>149470381
So, what, you spend hours picking things up, trying to throw them, and dragging bodies around?

Or do you mean "I mostly ignore it" ?

Because if it's the second option, that means it doesn't need to be there, and they could improve other things instead.

>>149470371
>but it's still there

What's your point?
I'd rather have better animations than a physics system that ultimately serves no purpose other than to amuse someone who's never played a Bethesda game before for like 10 minutes while they try to put a bucket on someone's head and then never think about it ever again.

The only time I even think about the physics engine is when a raider or something throws a grenade or blows up and a useful on a nearby table flies away into a potentially non-retrievable spot, or when a body bugs the fuck out and goes flying 40 feet after I shoot it.

If you're saying the reason I have to look at substandard graphics is because of the physics engine that nearly every review has made fun of or complained about since Oblivion, then take it the fuck away and give me better faces.

>>149470793
>So, what, you spend hours picking things up, trying to throw them, and dragging bodies around?
Yeah?

Half the shit in my settlements is shit I stacked myself.

>>149470615
Yeah, super believable when a nuka-cola rolls onto the floor and glitches out and I can't pick it up anymore even though I can see it.

Or when a ghoul dives at me and then clips into the wall and the mission was "kill all the ghouls" and now I can't.

Or when I drop an item and levitates in the air.

Is this literally your first Bethesda game?
You sound like someone who was super impressed by this shit when it was new in Oblivion, like the first week it came out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eYWWjONN50

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>>149470598
>literally a different thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH-4gOMP8q0
According to this interview
"Obsidian implemented this feature as a direct response to the popularity of the Weapon Mod Kits mod for Fallout 3.[4]" (citation is the video linked)

>>149470698
>it's okay when obsidian does it but not Bethesda
If you tune a ford crate engine to 800 HP Ford has every right to look at that engine and put it into production. Their assets, their property.

>>149470793
>he doesn't use bodies as decoration
wtf?

>>149470531
holy shit blacksmithing is winning?

>>149470867
So you have fucking autism, and everyone else needs to suffer because of you?

>>149471106
memes aren't an argument, kiddo.

>>149470702
With all the settlement shit from vanilla + Automatron + wasteland workshop 1/2 + Far Harbor + the few items added in patches + all the clean versions of furniture being added in the Vault workshop DLC, I basically have no need for settlement based mods at this point.

Bethesda has successfully replaced the Robco certified mod, + the feng shui mod + the wasteland settlement builder mod

>>149471027
>he doesn't use bodies as decoration

I'm not 12 and it's not 2006.

>>149471139
>hurr I like to stack things!
>that's why I can stand the sub-standard graphics, animations, and dialogue!

You're the only meme here.

>>149470612
>>149470615
Just like when you shoot tons of mini nukes in buildings and they don't fall off?
Or when you walk into something and that thing flies because of the shitty physics in Fallout? Now that is interactivity and makes the game more realistic and believable. Sure better quests, better voice acting, better dialogues, better character, better worldbuilding ADDS NOTHING to interactivity and to make the game world believable.
It is walking into a clutter and have that clutter defy the laws of physics.

I get it now. Sure it is worthwhile that Bethesda focus so much on clutter physics and forget about all the rest.

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>>149471141
Pls topless....Raven what's your steam....

>>149471215
>memes
not an argument kiddo

>I like to stack things
Yep
>that's why I can stand the sub-standard graphics
I'm not that guy, I'm the dude who plays GTAV and FO because he kind of has other hobbies.
Substandard graphics are kind of my bread and butter, and tbf, if you want awesome graphics that much, maybe you should find another game series, it aint been pretty ever.

>>149471284
Nothing's perfect babe.

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>>149471335
http://imgur.com/a/0BW2r

>>149471284
Because everything but clutter has been totally stagnant.

They've made improvements to a lot of things.
> Sure better quests, better voice acting, better dialogues, better character, better worldbuilding

What does that have to do with clutter they weren't the perceived cost of having clutter.

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Are you soliciting me?

>>149471405

>maybe you should find another game series

Says the person who legitimately seems like a 14 year old who probably hasn't even played Skyrim.

>>149471498


Pls take my shekle caps....

>>149471498
looks like shit

>>149471284
No one expects that level of building destruction, since only like Red Faction has ever offered it.

Its simply not technically feasible in games in general.

There is a difference between wanting what can be done, and not caring that they don't do what can't be done.

Whats with shitters like you always using these incredibly dumb false comparison arguments?

>>149471670
M8 it's each his own.

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>>149471595
>literally using the "you haven't even played skyrim"
Kek. Not everybody does what you do lad.
Just remember one of us considers vidya a primary hobby while the other just uses it when he doesn't feel like doing anything else.

>>149471579

>They've made improvements to a lot of things.

Not really.
Fallout 3 in 2008 had meh graphics, meh dialogue, meh animations, meh characters, etc.

That's still true for Fallout 4 in 2015, it's still meh on all fronts.

>better worldbuilding

You mean the world that Bethesda bought from someone else and built poorly upon since then?

>>149471753
fuck off, Raven

>>149471690
On a minor scale, you can destroy those small wooden fences you see in raider camps.

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>>149471837
Nah, I'm not raven that's the funnier thing you lil shite.

>>149471760

>just remember

Remember what?
You're fucking posting here too, jackass, arguing about a video game.

>now let me step back and pretend like I'm above this argument I've been having for an hour because I just admitted I like to eat shit instead of quality food

What a fucking faggot.

>>149471832
>and built poorly upon since then?
Not him, but I think they have done fine with it.

Better then the
>LEL EVERYTHING IS EITHER NCR OR LEHGUN!
homogenization we got in NV

>>149471996
Remember one of us is sperging out this hard over a franchise brought back from the dead for a quick buck while the other is giggling?

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Posting best Curie

>>149471690
Essentially, you're saying you'd rather have a physics engine that doesn't work just as often as it kinda works because you're like a child entertained by jingling keys, and even though it's the fourth game to jingle the keys at you, that's still preferable than better character animations and more detailed faces.

>>149471832
>meh dialogue, meh animations,
They overhauled both the dialogue system, even if the changes didn't end up being popular, and they made the animations a lot better.

They've tried changing a lot of the game. Its hardly been a stagnant focus on those objects.

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>>149472121
>Not giving her the brain of a dead hooker
How could you!

>>149471837
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>>149472042
For fuck's sake, it's THAN not THEN, and you've made this mistake like 14 times
Learn to fucking speak english

>Quit playing Fallout 4 on PC halfway because of shitty performance, ugly graphics, and textures not loading after an hour of gameplay
>Try Fallout 4 on PS4 and its even worse

How can they keep getting away with it?
My rig has better specs than a PS4 so I didnt expect it to be much better, but I thought the console release would at least be stable.
There are tons of weird bugs like the shoulders fucking up when in dialogue, the graphics are muddy, and it cant even keep up a cinematic 30 FPS in the most barebones exteriors. At the church near the beginning the game struggled to stay above 20 FPS.

This is straight up shovelware. If Just Cause 3 gets a 6/10 on consoles for it's performance issues Fallout 4 on consoles is at best a 5/10.

>>149472275
I dont have Jezz yet, but I will when I can. If I dont get her quests before hand.

>>149472191
I've honestly never had many problems with the physics engine in any TEs or Fallout game outside of NV's infamously getting half its NPCs stuck in the ground all the time.

really, it works like 95% of the time for me.

>that's still preferable than better character animations and more detailed faces.
As i've said before, the faces and animations are fine for me, I've never been so disgusted by them(except in Oblivion) that they lessened my ability to play the game.

>>149472248

>a lot better

Better than Fallout 3.
Not better than anything modern, or even Skyrim.

>>149472089
>brought back from the dead

I never even played 1 or 2 until after I played 3.
Also for someone who only plays GTAV, you sure seem to know a lot about 90s top-down RPGs.

>>149472312
>For fuck's sake, it's THAN not THEN, and you've made this mistake like 14 times
I already said that I'm not the same guy

>Learn to fucking speak English
you are aware that then/than is one of the singularly most confused parts of the English language, even by people who speak it?

Who act like its not one of the most common mistakes that has become so culturally systemic that 99% of the English speaking population simply doesn't care anymore.

Also, the fact you attack spelling rather then the actual point really only shows how little of an argument you have.

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>>149472506
>brought back from the dead
as in, dead series until Bethesda bought it up, do you deny that? Kind of took 3 coming out to get you interested in the first two.
>currently playing GTAV means that's the only game I've ever played
What kind of weak bait is this?

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Also this is how dark Fallout 4 should of been vanilla wise.

>>149471215
You'll have to deal with it because this is who Bethesda appeals to, autists who like to stack misc garbage even though the entire system has been detrimental to every Bethesda game since Oblivion. They cant even be assed to fix it so that shitty clutter physics cant instakill you

Can someone model a kkk robe for fallout 4 so that i can properly address my preston nigger farm?

>>149470139

Different anon replying.

>I personally felt like it added a far greater reason for me to care about what was going on then any previous Fallout game did.

By absolutely destroying the meaning of a canvas. We are now forced to have a wife/husband and a son.

>I was saying theres no reason for a faction to have a negative opinion of you if they have no logical way of knowing what you did.

This is a valid complaint if the rest of the game complies with it.

But in Bethesda games, every NPC I come across is a psychic or something: case in point, Skyrim NPCs. "Hey, I know who you are, Hail Sithis!". How the hell does he even know what I look like? There are no photographs in Skyrim.

At least New Vegas' faction system added something worth my time.

>and basically nothing has physics attached to it since it was never designed to move

This is a complaint I had with The Witcher back when I started playing it a few months ago.

Then I realized I didn't need the fancy physics went it goes bananas to boot, and rarely ever adds anything of use.

Gothic I has very barebones interiors to it, yet they were much more immersive than Morrowind's because I didn't have to go through a fucking loading screen every time I wanted to enter somewhere.

Devs need to learn to make sacrifices.

>Its is really any wonder why Bethesda game usually have lower overall graphics when they do far more then any other game does in terms of interactivity with the game world?

So to you the interactivity you can have with a mutfruit (read: pick it and drop it) is more important than graphics, or seamless interiors?

>Name another RPGs that has the same level of player' controllable weapon customization by default.

This is a moot point considering Fallout is one of the few open world RPG franchises that has GUNS to boot. And where it should deliver (RPG) it fails badly.

>>149472670
Thats just boring super ULTRA HOLLYWOOD DARK! only made for shitty movies trying to be scary.

>>149472357
Disable vsync and godrays install enb boost set fps to 60. Problem solved. Instead of 10 minutes of work you decided to buy the game on a console.

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>>149472865
Are you serious?

>>149472649

You've mentioned GTAV several times, and nothing else besides Fallout 4.

And you should really understand that my statement about how I never played 1 or 2 means I don't fucking care if it was brought back from the dead, because it clearly was, and that has nothing to do with the argument.

If a scientist brought a useful person back from the dead, but that person now stuttered like a retard whenever they spoke and walked with a limp, I'm not gonna pretend I don't see those flaws and wish they weren't there.

>>149470531
Modern Firearms is shit.

>>149473015
Dead serious, they are farming watermelons for me too.

>>149472615
I wasn't arguing with you, I was reading the argument
And since when is stupidity or ignorance an excuse?
Learn proper grammar, especially if you're going to try and be condescending when arguing with people

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>tfw really hoping Nuka World isn't completely half assed
>Hoping the Raider path completely fucks general alliances in the Commonwealth, so a goody two shoes can't do the quests while still being generally liked by the populace and his companions

>>149472982
I didnt buy the game on console, I just tried it on PS4
I also tried all those things.

>>149473312
Post computer specs

>>149473215

Is there a "raider path" ?
Also, you're seriously expecting Bethesda to do something smart like what you described?
I mean, they can't even really manage that shit in the vanilla game, let alone a post-release DLC.

>>149472923
>By absolutely destroying the meaning of a canvas
RPGs do not have to offer a blank canvas. Indeed, most older RPGs did not offer one, and things like Baldur's Gate hinged their entire story around you trying to seek justice for your slain adoptive father The only RPgs with a blank canvas are ones without plots.

>"Hey, I know who you are, Hail Sithis!". How the hell does he even know what I look like?
Because hes part of the Dark Brotherhood also, just like all those generic assassins who come to kill you, and thus, would know what you look like/who you are from being told by other members of the DB who have seen you.

>Then I realized I didn't need the fancy physics went it goes bananas to boot, and rarely ever adds anything of use.
I;ve never really had problem with it, and have gotten a lot out of it.

>Gothic I has very barebones interiors to it, yet they were much more immersive than Morrowind's because I didn't have to go through a fucking loading screen every time I wanted to enter somewhere.
Being essentially empty rooms is far less immersive to me then rooms full of shit.

>Devs need to learn to make sacrifices.
Ironic, given that the sacrifice in this case is not having a 100% seamless world, in truth for having a far more detailed world that is far more immersive due to the detail in it.

>So to you the interactivity you can have with a mutfruit (read: pick it and drop it) is more important than graphics, or seamless interiors?
If I played games for the graphics I would play nothing but crysis.

And seamless interiors don't bother me, because the only games I have seen with them are ones that are very barebones, and worse off for it.

>This is a moot point considering Fallout is one of the few open world RPG franchises that has GUNS to boot. And where it should deliver (RPG) it fails badly.
And yet I find Fallout 4 to be a far better RPg then either Fallout 3 or NV, due to various mechanical changes made to the game.

>rip-off mass effect system dialogue poorly
>rip-off mass effect companion affinity system poorly
>rip-off mass effect romance system poorly
>doesn't even have the decent to have sex scenes

Why do people accept these changes?

>>149473038
The conversation was about Fallout 4. I'm sorry anon, maybe I should just go ahead and write a succinct autobiography for you so you don't sperg out over every little thing and project things you don't know. Fallout 1 and 2 were fun, but don't have much replayability. Neither did 3 or NV for me. I pretty much did everything except die.

>brought back from the dead
And some of us were alive before the year 1995, so it being brought back from the dead very clearly effects our view of it. I didn't expect much out of FO. I got exactly what I expected every time, with a bit of fun added to it.

>scientist analogy
So are you going to yell at the zombie until it magically regenerates all the dead tissue and brain matter or are you just going to go "Oh look it's retarded, wonder if it knows how to play catch?"

>>149473519
>doesn't even have the decent to have sex scenes
Why would you want them when all of them in games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and Witcher have been nothing but DoA tier cringy shit that makes it impossible to take the whole relationship seriously.

>>149473437
>I;ve never really had problem with it, and have gotten a lot out of it.
Okay, Captain Anecdote.
You're the one.
Meanwhile, everyone ever has had problems with the physics in Bethesda games since 2006. It's always been something talked about in reviews, it's always been something Bethesda has talked about improving, it's always been a concern.

You can't keep saying "I've never had a problem with it" like we aren't living in a world where these games are notorious for buggy physics.

>>149473378
Yes, according to the description you can lead the Raiders and take over the Commonwealth. I'm keeping my fingers crossed hard that's it's not just the evil Minutemen.

>>149473090
Well then
That is fucking hilarious you need to post pictures of it

>>149473373
GTX 960 4GB
i5 4590
8GB RAM

I did get 60 FPS with most things set to low but this game is still ugly. And even then there are performance drops the deeper I got into the city. Nothing fixed textures crapping themselves out.
I'd rather come back to this game in a few more years with better hardware so at least I can enjoy physx, nvidiarays, and graphic mods.

>>149473215
I'm just hoping for new mechanics, animations and weapons. Bethesda has proven time and again that they couldn't write themselves out of a wet paper bag and they don't even have the balls to do something remotely edgy(no prostitution, no slavery etc.) so all i want is assets for modders to actually do something with.

>>149473715
>Meanwhile, everyone ever
The moment you tried to pull the LITERALLY EVERYONE! card, your entire argument last any credibility it might have had.

>>149473672
Fallout 3 had sex

>>149473437

>RPGs do not have to offer a blank canvas.

Fallout does. Games like Baldur's Gate are inspired by traditional D&D campaigns.

>Because hes part of the Dark Brotherhood also

Yet I've never seen him. At all.

>would know what you look like/who you are from being told by other members of the DB who have seen you.

This doesn't make any sense either, considering I may be fully covered in armor I never use.

>I;ve never really had problem with it, and have gotten a lot out of it.

Well, it's a matter of opinion. Personally I find it pointless.

>Being essentially empty rooms is far less immersive to me then rooms full of shit.

I never said that. I said that seamlessly transitioning to essentially empty rooms is far more immersive to me than entering a room through a 10 second loading screen just to find an interior cluttering with crap that most of the time doesn't make any difference to me.

Gothic has the right amount of decoration for me to understand the place I'm in. It doesn't need a shitton of potions lying around, or books, or weapons, and so on.

>And yet I find Fallout 4 to be a far better RPg then either Fallout 3 or NV, due to various mechanical changes made to the game.

Should've known the kind of person I was arguing with.

>>149473796
>no prostitution, no slavery
Prostitutes were in Fallout 3, as are slaves.

Hell, they made a entire DLC based around a slaver empire.

Similarly, Fallout 4's plotline deals with enslavement issues. As you can sell billy into slavery as well.

We also know Cait got sold as a sex salve, and several NPCs like Darcy Pembroke are talked about to be the town bicycle.

Have you played this game? or just reading shit off the wiki?

>>149473930
maybe you could have sex too if you stopped worrying about it in the vidya so much.

>>149473930
4 has implied sex your point?

>>149473724
>you can lead the Raiders and take over the Commonwealth
They removed that from the Bethesda description

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>>149472121
>bags covering everything important
>assaultron helmet on a medbot
Shit taste. Posting best robutt now.

>>149473973
Why the fuck would i be talking about Fallout in general when i was referring to Nuka World?

>>149473930
Fallout 3 only had fade to black like Fallout 4 has

>>149473930

But no sex scenes. It was literally a fade out.

By contrast, The Witcher and Gothic II had (terribly cringy) sex scenes, which consisted of little less than a few images (Witcher) or more elaborate cutscenes (Gothic II).

>>149474059
and then a dev confirmed it wasn't a removed feature, dingus.

>>149473672
>Why would you want them when all of them in games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and Witcher have been nothing but DoA tier cringy shit that makes it impossible to take the whole relationship seriously.

Because Fallout 4 is the same thing, just without the sex scenes.

You're saying you take the relationships in Fallout 4 seriously?
Where Nick/Nora can get B L A C K E D within a week of seeing his/her spouse die because he/she upgraded her guns enough times?
Or Nate/Nora can slum it with drug addicted Irish pussy 30 minutes after she talks about how she was raped as kid?

You're saying a sex scene would make any of this LESS serious?

Some of Fallout 4's romances are worse than the worst shit in Dragon Age 2, and it even has the same SJW-friendly "everyone is all sexualities" bullshit.

>>149474059
>They removed that from the Bethesda description
Not him but Pete Hines already confirmed that it is a feature of the DLC when people asked after it was removed

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>>149473979
Fuck off normie

>>149473817

I understand you may have been 6 years old when Oblivion came out, but that doesn't invalidate it from an argument.

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>>149474059

>>149474103
out of all things to bitch about, you're bitching about them making sexuality a choice instead of forced?

>>149474224
O-okay.

>>149474103
>>You're saying a sex scene would make any of this LESS serious?
Not him, but they never help.

>>149474103
>You're saying you take the relationships in Fallout 4 seriously?
No, but they are less silly then those in Bioware or Witcher games since they don't take what little they built up with sex scenes seemingly designed by 13 year olds.

>>149474102
>>149474214
>he trusted Pete Hines

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>>149474371
>he trusted an anonymous poster on 4chan

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I can't wait to build my own vault. It's going to be awesome.

>>149474103
>Where Nick/Nora can get B L A C K E D within a week of seeing his/her spouse die because he/she upgraded her guns enough times?

It doesn't force any romance on your character.

>>149474273

Yeah, I think it's a little unrealistic to make everyone bisexual or pansexual or whatever the fuck rather than have you know, some just straight or just gay people.

Like how people are.

If you're striving to make realistic or compelling or interesting characters, giving them all a totally uncommon sexual orientation isn't helping.

Also then the romantic dialogue is the same but they flip the gender pronouns around to fit the player character is just lazy.

I'd be more interested if I was a Nora flirting with Piper and she said "I've never felt this way about a woman before" or something like that, and then it would feel like a more unique thing.

>>149474289

And they don't hurt when everything already sucks and the game you're ripping off has them.

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>>149474081
Bitch please, Curie is going to truly clean up the commonwealth, just like the Mechanist bots do.

>>149472940 You dont want your game to be all hollywood like?

>>149474638
I think it was less to be taken as canon and more to allow the player to forge a relationship with any companion they wanted tbf.
stop reading into it so much, this is cringeworthy mental gymnastics.

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>>149461660
The exploration in this game is absolute shit.

All you do is find some door, instance to a dungeon, go in a straight line from point a to b, kill some boss guy, pick up some random garbage, and exit at point b which leaves you near where you entered the dungeon instance entrance in the first place. You do this x100 times.

How was this game considered goty. Literally no creativity just copy and paste everything.

Sky rim with guns.

>>149474246
Even back then there were tons of people who had zero issues with the physics in Oblivion.

There is a reason why the "Bethesda roulette" exists, everyone has different experiences with their games

>>149474752
>play it like dungeon crawler
>surprised when it becomes dungeon crawler
ever tried just walking around?
>inb4 i'm a babby and can't deal with random encounters

>>149474556

>"can get"
>"can"
>forced

Read what I wrote.
If any of it were serious, as the post I responded to implied, you wouldn't have a person randomly fucking potentially all fuckable companions and anyone else possible days, weeks, or months after they just saw their husband/wife die and their son was missing.

If any of it were serious, you wouldn't have sarcastic or even nice dialogue options.

Which is just another reason why "gimme back my son" is a terrible plot to have in a game with even limited dialogue options.

Or even dialogue at all. Like when you walk up to the Cryolator case and your character says "Wicked awesome, bro, I'm comin' back fuh that piece latuh!" only moments after staring at Nick/Nora's corpse.

>>149474918
>dialogue is literally "I'm comin back for you later"
why are you such a shit-tier exaggerator?

>>149474918
The game doesn't push your character into a relationship allowing the player to do things that you don't like is fine.

Its not all that serious.

Why are you taking it so seriously?

>"Wicked awesome, bro, I'm comin' back fuh that piece latuh!
Thats totally what they said.

>>149474723

>I think

That's great, that you can think.
I know that it's in the game for the same reason you can call yourself "Shithead" or "Fuckface" and Codsworth says it out loud.

It's to appeal to tumblr and reddit and whatever else.

And you can forge a relationship with a companion without fucking them, or getting XP for fucking them, or picking the "friendzone Curie" dialogue option and hearing disappointment in her voice.

And if your idea of forging a relationship does involve fucking, you certainly can't fuck every companion. Not even all the human ones.

>>149474868
How do I play the game then? So if I come across a door that instances somewhere you want me to avoid it?

>>149475190
That's great, you can think.

>>149475239
You're exploring, not dungeon crawling. Make a note of it somewhere, come back later.
Not that hard my man. Self control.

>>149475123
>>149475152

>what is a joke

And the character says, "Nice, I'm comin' back for you later," to a fucking dumb looking gun in a case moments after seeing their son stolen, screaming at the corpse of their dead spouse, and being confronted with such things as skeletons in the hallway and giant cockroaches.

It doesn't matter what positive thing was said about a gun, there should've been nothing said at all. Not only is it the only specific, unique line of dialogue ever said about one single locked door, case, or terminal in the game, but it's also literally the most inopportune time something could've been said.

>>149475309
"headcannon"

>>149475556
Goes both ways babe.

>>149473738
Let me fix something then I will

>>149475445
>unique line of dialogue ever said about one single locked door, case, or terminal in the game, but it's also literally the most inopportune time something could've been said.

Kellog's door to his house in Diamond city has more dialogue.

Also if you wanted to immerse yourself more you could have the character mope in front of his spouse's corpse for a while before moving on.

>>149475445
>expecting the people who still have "GHOUL?" and "SYNTH?" as a questions in dialogue 40 hours into the game to be tactful

>>149475696
>tfw always spend 2 minutes trying to punch my way through the cryo tube before realizing there's a release
max comfy.

>>149463790
You need to have killed cornflake before you can get Curie in the synth body.

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>>149472670

Your flashlight mod looks broken

>>149475601
what was it you said about language the other day? and kept saying over and over?

>>149475309
>That's great, you can think.

Too bad you can't he was specifying that it was his own supposition rather than a fact that he could backup.

Anyone know of any gladiator-like chest piece armor mod? One that highlights the abdomen and all that.

>>149475834
Words aren't there to be spelled correctly, they're there to communicate ideas?
Yeah, got some sick headcanon for it yet?

>>149475696
>Also if you wanted to immerse yourself

Bethesda are the ones who claimed this was their most immersive game yet, not me.
In fact I've had an easier time getting immersed in all the Bethesda open world games preceding Fallout 4 than I have in Fallout 4 itself.

This irony is not my fault.

>>149475932
>everything I don't like appeals to tumblr or reddit
Yeah, I'm honestly supposed to have an argument for that one, right?

>>149476102
>SJW stuff appeals to tumblr
>unfunny child-like memes appeal to reddit

can confirm

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My waifu very big!

Why is the yellow flight helmet so much cooler than any other helmet including DLC and modded shit?

>>149476219
Citations, please.
Unfunny child like memes are popular on R9K, and SJW stuff appeals to the LGBTQ board, no?

>>149476102
t. a person who named their character "Fuck" or something similar at least once to hear Codsworth say it

If I join the Brotherhood, how can I justify giving Curie a synth body?

>>149476356
>t. someone who doesn't have an argument other than yelling I DON'T LIKE THAT at the top of his lungs
and nah, i named him my name in my first playthrough, after that I did quotation marks around my names so he'd just call me sir.

>>149476330

Do you frequent those boards?

>citations, please

Are you the one who also needs a "citation" on people having complained about physics glitches in Bethesda games before?

>>149476257

It's clearly inspired by Doomguy.

>>149476102
I can't follow your train of thought.

>>149476402
Same way you can justify sparing Danse, not all synths are evil, and not all BoS members are as single minded as Maxson

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My waifu mean! My waifu angry!

>>149476402
Don't say she is sentient. Claim it's some experiment to understand the way the Institute works.

>>149476481
i don't have an argument because i'm not arguing, you're just a faggot and piper is an illiterate whore who gestures like she has palsy, but I still fap to her

>>149476496
>are you also
No, I don't care about bethesda's glitchy ass physics. It's literally nothing new.
>do you frequent those boards?
Do you frequent those sites?

>>149476497
It's literally the second line in the post.
>>149475190
"It's to appeal to tumblr and reddit and whatever else."

>>149474752
How can anyone like The Witcher 3? I'm fucking baffled by this

You can't even go to sleep in an inn. The entire existence of pretty much every NPC is standing still and saying the exact same line over and over again, without even a break in between.

It's the most cardboard cut-out terrible excuse for a world of pretty much any game I've ever played.

I have literally no clue how anyone can like it at all.

>>149476543
He did a better job with the top part, but royally fucked up the teeth.

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>>149476543
Not sure if want.

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>>149475818
Its broke atm, its still takes the flashlight of one of my guns and uses it. Keep forgetting to take it off.

>>149476647
BECAUSE MUH DARK, EDGY, MATURE USE OF NIPPLES AND SWEAR WORDS!

>>149476635
>literally fishing for a you
Here ya go, I take pity on beggars.

>>149476505
It's one thing to spare Danse, as you will have been with him for a while and grown to respect him as brother. You don't have to kill everything It's an entirely different thing to create a synth when there is literally no reason to.

>>149476696
Raven give me her then.

>>149464813
>>149466813
i fucking know someone here knows what causes this and google isn't giving me any results

>>149476520
Is this actually in the game or is this one of those all-too-common head canon RP bullshit? Walking into the BoS with Nick or Hancock, guard confiscates your weapons, cuffs you and takes you to Maxson where you have to explain yourself would be fucking great.

>>149476647
B-but muh graphicss!

>>149476646

So, what, you're saying they made every romanceable character unrealistically bisexual to appeal to the majority straight white male audience who will play as a dude 95% of the time and bang Piper 95% of the time because she's the first and easiest chick to find?

You're saying that's more logical than them doing it to appeal to the most vocal SJW base on the internet?

You're saying they had Codsworth say "Sex-ass" as a name for the 95% of people who will just use their own name?

Rather than for children and manchildren who will get a giggle out of hearing a curse word over and over?

You're saying you're an idiot?

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Rate the Fallouts from best to worst

>Fallout 2
>Fallout: NV
>Fallout
>Fallout 3
>Fallout Tactics
>Fallout: BOS
>Fallout 4

>>149476647
Witchers don't sleep, they meditate.
That's why it says "meditate" in the menu, instead of "rest".

>>149477050
>you're saying
No, I'm saying they gave you an option.
>so you're saying
No. I'm saying they gave you an option.
>you're saying
No, I'm saying they gave you an option.
>you're saying
No.
Get over it, faggots are weird, but some people are still faggots (like you). So if they want to be faggots they can be faggots.
In any case, are you honestly suggesting that mechanics = lore?

>>149477138
>Fallout
>Fallout 2
>Fallout 4
>Fallout: BOS
>Fallout: NV
>Fallout Tactics
>Fallout 3

>>149477213
But they can sleep. Hell, the Witcher 2 starts off with you waking up next to Trish.

I"m not bitching that I don't need to sleep. I"m bitching that there are inns and I"m not even able to sleep there.

>>149477401
>having this good of taste
I pity you, they're going to tear you up.

>>149477138
>Fallout 4
>all the rest

>>149477289

Are you saying that an elaborate multi-sequence dialogue tree, usually involving backstory and character feelings, that ends in a romance (with no gameplay benefit unless you sleep around that person) isn't lore?

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>>149476102

>>149477407
>Trish

Triss.
And Geralt wasn't sleeping, he was meditating.
He can do it standing up, if he needs to.
Witchers are freaky mutants, you know. Geralt is like 300 hundred years old or something.

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How do I make my waifu look like THIS?

>>149477659
Right,
Defend your carboard cut out of a game as you like

it's fucking shit, and everything there is just decoration that you can't even do anything with.

>>149470270
Is it?
I mean, replacing idles and animations is possible, but can we add new ones without a tool like FNIS?

>>149477521
Well, until we can confirm it actually happened (never), it's not.
It's just your headcanon, and an option, unless you somehow believe that who you sided with in NV will directly impact the next game. (as in your personal choice, not a poll of who chose what)
So yeah, until you write that shit in there and say "Yep, canon." with a nice little Bethesda mark of approval, it's nothing more than an option, like going to the Republic of Dave in FO3.

>>149477401
I know, i know, the thread is going slow. Nine months after release and every aspect of the game has been talked to death. I mean this general is barely kept alive by either constantly comparing the game to it's prequels or avatar fagging and shitposting about waifus but even you should be able to come up with better bait than this.

>>149477687
You don't....this is just disturbing.

>>149477772
>with a nice little Bethesda mark of approval

Bethesda doesn't approve of me fucking Piper?
Then why is it in the game?

>>149477659
Meditation is substitute for sleep but if a Witcher is just tired he can sleep like a normal human. See Vesemir in the W3 prologue. And no, Geralt is barely a century old, again see Vesemir in the prologue. Only the latter is about 400 years old.

>>149462739
>>149462575
i just got the game and I tried melee on survival difficulty and i couldnt take getting kill cammed in situations where i wouldnt have died otherwise. felt more frustrating than anything really. made a new character and its
4 str 4 end 4 char 6-7 int 3 agi 3 luck
is this ok? im mostly playing around with settlement stuff for now im level 11 and have no + damage perks. combat can be tedious because of bullet sponge enemies but its not as bad as i would have thought, only problem is finding ammo, gonna get my strength up and go melee if its really that good later on just to help myself save ammo.

>>149477772
>"headcannon"
Not an argument. Starting to think you're a chick.