Etrian Odyssey General

>>149415909
Fang doesn't deserve this.

>>149415909
Uh.... What's with the thumbnail

>>149415909
mooooot

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>blind, leg bind, or paralyze enemy
>bird hits for 1600% - 3200% average damage
Damn son

>>149415909
Thanks noot.

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>>149415909
wow

>>149415797

>doesn't have the VA list
>http://pastebin.com/raw/DcTMa4kb

OP plz. Pay attention!

How about we delete all the posts so far and start again, as if nothing happened?

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http://pastebin.com/trP5AUFC
explain to me why you don't have an awoo in your demo team

>training up new party in demo
>run into a shortcut I missed that leads to the to the left side of F2

This group is much more observant than the last.

>>149416184
It's right there
>English voice names with samples and VA name - http://pastebin.com/raw/DcTMa4kb

>>149416184
I put it in the Demo Info pastebin. Should I put it directly in the op next time?

>>149416221
Still right there
>Hound - http://pastebin.com/trP5AUFC

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nth for lolimancer > tittymancer

What's better on Masurao, Double Delayed Stab, or Cut Dance?

>>149416221
why is she so cute bros

Does the EOV demo require a specific firmware?

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>>149416539
So you wont see that 2.5x Star Drop coming.

Anyone tried to racial TP regen skills (X's Grace)?
When do they proc? How much TP do they regen?

>>149416762
my herbalist has it, feels like procs about half the time for 3 tp regained but I'm sure we'll get actual numbers soon.

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>>149416539

>she

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>>149417157

So how much damage would Dragoon's Buster Cannon do with Drop Shot, Gun Revenge, Bombardment Prep?

>>149415797
Can ya make custom characters in the demo?

>>149417336
I don't know if you can get the benefits from Buster Cannon and Bombardment Prep on the same turn. Gun Revenge also looks like it would be hard to get the max bonus if you were using BC or BP on that turn.

>>149415097

It's like a slight chance, (I'd say around ~20%, based solely on the little I've played) to regain like 2 or 3 TP when you use a Basic skill. The TP amount regained might scale with character level, though, not sure, since you "Master" the skill at Lvl. 1.

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What skills do I level on my Reaper.

>>149418082

Alter Class.

>>149416294
I think it's fine as you did it. Once we have numbers for all the classes there will be too much to list directly in the OP.

>After that, the Hound will deal melee bash damage to any enemies that are afflicted with leg binds.
>150% initial damage, 50% base leg bind chance, 600% Hound damage
Wonder if that only hits those leg bound by the Hound.

>>149417476
No you have to use the story party,it's a boy and his two classmates who are transported to the labyrinth for unexplained reasons

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Post 'em.

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>>149415797
Previous Thread >>149183754

>>149419459
Did they ever say anything about the DLC being color customizable?
I'd love to try out some different colors on Medikotato.

>>149419701
What does やるしかねな translate to?
Git er done?

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>>149419701

So I finally got around to reorganizing and retagging my EO OST's, but I noticed that the title names for a lot of the tracks are different from how they're titled on VGMdb for EO 3 (ex. Disturbances - Hoist the Sword and Pride in the Heart) vs. how they are titled on my files and on youtube (ex. Unrest - Hoist the Sword with Pride in the Heart).

I know that VGMdb is pretty accurate with the naming of titles, but it just seems weird that the non-VGMdb naming sounds better than the VGMdb naming. Any ideas on why there's such a discrepancy here?

>>149420524
Honestly, if I was localizing the game I would go with JUST DO IT

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>>149420524
Shouldn't it be やるしかねえな?

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>>149419701
I like my other team better, but I'll save that for when the game is in english

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>>149420890
Dat necro.

>>149420890
Is necro hollow?

>>149419223

I'm assuming you mean if the Hound's "Hound" will only count leg binds that were afflicted by the actual Foot Pierce attack that turn, to which, no idea, but the fact that it says "any enemies that are afflicted with leg binds" makes me think it might attack leg bound enemies even outside the row it was used on.

>>149420818
>Hetromichcatachita eyes on more than one member
fucking shit fuck dicks.

>>149421191
>Hecatoncheires eyes on anyone at all.

One is one too many.

>>149421191
>talking shit about the Lucifive
End yourself.

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>>149419701
when I stop being lazy I'll get the correct values for their hair colors and edit them

How long until we can stack ailments like in 7th Dragon?

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>>149419701
I've rested everyone in this party so many times by now, but it's finally time to dive into my horde of level 10 adventurers that have been waiting around in the guild hall.

>>149419701
>メディ子
Anon please.

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>>149420405
Right, I'll stop being stupid and answer my own question.

>>149422505
I'm sure she'll be replaced when the DLC hits

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>>149422647

>>149422647
Medikko is dumb

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>>149423238

>>149422505
what >>149422664 said

>>149422647
>Anon will finally realize his dream of using multicolor Mediko in-game

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>>149423929
I'll use it to create sins against nature, like Teachiko.

>>149424094
Those fat thighs UNF

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>>149423929
She is real!

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>>149424479

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Reaper skills.

http://pastebin.com/2QgSvpwC

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So if you use a Warlock's Multistrike with something like Windstorm, you get 2 - 6 chances at 30% to land arm bind?

>>149425709
Added, thanks

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>>149425709
>Black Blade
>Scythe of Transcience
thats the stuff. Too bad keeping your Miasma armament up sounds like a pain.

>>149425709
>Gather Souls doubles exp at level 10
>100% auto Miasma Weapon skill
>High follow-up damage for ailing enemies
>Probably high poison damage
>Ecstasy-like debuff remover
Seems like keeping Miasma Weapon up is a bitch, but otherwise not so bad.

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>>149424094

>>149426335
>>149426309
just getting a refresher on this, debuffs are the stat related ones right? The things you can only have 3 of? So not poison or binds right?

>>149425709
what order is this going in

>>149426557
Yeah, debuffs are things like Defense Down, Accuracy Down, Ailment Resistance Down, etc. 3 max. (You can also have 3 buffs)

Meanwhile you can only have one ailment (Poison, Blind, Paralyze, etc) and up to 3 binds (Head, Arm, Leg).

>>149426764
for some reason I got it in my head that poisons were debuffs when I read the original description

damn Reaper is going to be so fun then if setting up Transcience is so easy.

>>149426850
Some ailments and binds also come with unlisted debuffs (like getting blinded destroys your evasion), but those don't look like they'll count towards the Reaper's Scythe of Transience.

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>>149426574
the order in the pastebin is the games data order

if you want a "bad" guide to help you with the actual skill menu, you can use this collage someone made of my badly translated skills

The order is left to right, top to bottom. All the pre-req skills will be before the skill that they unlock.

I want to eat a potato

>>149427364
I want to eat mashed potatoes.

>>149427364
>>149427491
EOV guro art when

>>149426850
>damn Reaper is going to be so fun then if setting up Transcience is so easy.
There has to be a catch right?
Debuffs are guaranteed to hit, and it even says Transience cannot miss.

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With the release of the current skills stats, I think I might do a party like

Reaper Cestus
Hound Dragoon Shaman/Herbalist/Warlock(?)

Reaper because I always pick the Dark Hunter class and they're usually my main offense

Cestus for mad binds

Hound awoo version, Medical dog looks pretty strong and he's got star drop

Dragoon cause Dragoons are cool

The last slot is really open though
>Shaman for buffs and potato
>Herbalist for dedicated healer, another debuffer and potato
>Warlock for more deeps and debuffs

What ideas do you guys have so far?

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>>149425709
>Enemies who use Miasma

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>>149425709
>Scythe of Transience
>Lv10: 24 TP, 700% damage per hit, max damage is 2100%

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>>149427917
>cannot miss at all levels.

>>149427818
So far it seems the classes I like will each be powerhouses all on their own; I'm not looking to do any Chase parties or anything.

Having a hard time convincing myself to use some kind of Healer, all these damage dealers are so exciting.

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>>149428083
just get a Support Hunter, Star Drop and Medical Lick all day errday.

Honestly I never run a dedicated healer in EO, I just burst as hard as I can and that has always worked, but I am so tempted to potato

>>149428204
Fuck trump

>>149428319
what?

>>149428204
Wait until we get some potato skill numbers, seems like they could speed up the Transience process at least.

>>149428479
what's pretty sick about Transcience is that literally everyone carries some sort of debuff, even my Dragoon can Barrage Wall things for that attack debuff

this gun be good

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>>149428573
It sounds absolutely ridiculous. If you get your turn order right, what's to stop you from using 3 debuffs and Transience every single turn?

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>>149428828
the enemy's death

on a more serious note some other classes are pretty ridiculous in their own right

The Fencer's Evasion tree has a 2000% attack that fully charges when you dodge 9 attacks in total. It doesn't seem like it resets either so I'd imagine if you got your party members to gang on her with low accuracy, you could charge it instantly and then DESU

Hey, /eog/, how would you feel if EO took a page from 7th Dragon's book and used character models in battles?

>>149429247
too sluggish

>>149429247
I don't mind it in 7thD, but it wouldn't feel right in EO. Plus with 5 characters that's a lot of time spent on animations.

I would like it if EO copied how the 7thD enemies run up at the screen, though.

>>149429247
cute for the first hour and then I'd turn off the animation

hell even watching special moves in 7th Dragon take forever

>>149429247
I think it would make things too slow.

One of my favorite things about EO is how fast battles are, I'd play Final Fantasy if I wanted to watch flashy attacks.

>>149429247
Worse than Permaded

>>149428204
>Star Drop
Waiting to see if some class has a Quick Step skill. Though Hounds are probably pretty fast on their own.

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>Classes sound like beasts
>Imagining what kind of postgame boss Atlus is going to make to shit all over them.

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>>149429796
there really shouldn't be anyone faster than a Hound unless you go Evasion Fencer or something.

Transcience actually has a negative speed multiplier so I'm not worried about coordinating it

>>149429937
This is exactly what I'm worried about

>>149429937

Prepare for bosses that get free turns to buff themselves and set down area effects that debuff/inflict ailments or damage you every turn.

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>>149430181
>Enter a battle
>you automatically get binded

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>>149430215

>Each of Drake's heads gets an attack
>Along with its Core
>And the Core resonates with each head

>>149429940

We've had fusing enemies before, but something makes me think there's going to be a floor littered with FOEs that can combine if you let another one join in battle.

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>>149430340
now I'm being reminded of that Bravely Default boss that could literally move during your turn, oh boy that was fun

>>149429937
>Boss has multiple(4+) forms that you must fight consecutively
>Forms it has change based on your party composition
>Has the ability to immunize itself from certain damage types
>Whole battle is on a turn timer
>Final phase is a dps race with it healing itself a ton each turn before self destructing

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>>149430617
>boss is immune to debuffs

>>149430617
>>Has the ability to immunize itself from certain damage types
Haha time to run a 6 element Warlock

>>149430617
>Equip accessories that give resistance to whatever elements it uses
>gaea rage

DLC character to replace Cestus and Reapers, when?

>>149430703
>Boss hits with a party-wiping counter every time you debuff

>>149430782
Cestus are probably the best class in the demo.
Reapers are the worst in the demo, but it looks like they get fucking crazy in late game.

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>>149429247
Dropped.
I'd be all for it if EO had those cute split-second animations from the DS 7thD, though.

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>>149430782
>not using the best Earthrun girl

>>149430962
>what the fuck am I doing here

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>>149429937
>final boss just do nothing the whole battle

>>149430765

Demi-fiend pls go

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>>149431265

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>>149431354

>>149430469
>1st stratum boss parts breaking off into FOEs as you defeat them so flash bombs are useless

How did you guys build your Cestus?

>>149432814
they're level 10, it hardly matters. I did one of each passive and bind and the rest in thuder punch

That writeup made a mistake. Preemptive Weapon is a basic skill. Black Blade belongs with the first 2nd name.

Lolimonk DLC for Cestus when?

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>>149433560

You'll take your titty monsters and you'll like them.

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>>149433863
>titty monster NPCs in EO5

>>149433863
add sorrow

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>>149433863

>>149434051
>it's not a hair ornament

>>149434051
>Obligatory battle against people using some of the game's classes.
>Jiggle physics.

>>149434051
how much do I have to pay to make her my Reaper?

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>>149434391

How much are you willing to spend?

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>>149434391

How much are you willing to pay?

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>>149434482

>>149427818
My current party is
Cestus/Dragoon/FOUR FUCKING SWORDS
Awoo/Herbalist

Man, I love how Dragoon can tank and attack
Hooray for Bunker

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>>149434917
>See Red circled FOE
>put up two bunkers
>ayylmao in the distance
too bad my bird got oneshot, was pretty fun

>>149434917
Yeah I like how it's not like EOU2 expert where you have to spam front guard/hit-taker every turn or your front row dies

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>>149435018

Now we just need one of these with Patchgoon and 7000 Bunkers.

I thought I had a Necromancer version of this, but I guess not.

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>>149435546
I got you senpai

>>149430703
>>149430824
>Boss mirrors debuffs
>>Boss debuffs itself and then mirrors it to you

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>Untold 3
>Sea Quest Ruin Caller
>Every head have a Core

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>7th Shit getting figs left and right
>EO has had nothing fir the last 8 years

It's not fair bros..

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>>149436889
they don't want you hotgluing Teach

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>>149437108

They really need to make more EO merchandise.

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>>149435546

12 seconds in MSPaint.

man I'm rusty with EO mechanics

Does Amplifier (For X turns, increases Magical power for a row of allies) boost the power of Chase attacks?

>>149437108
Has anyone actually hotglued the creepy teach fig, though?

>>149437525
the puppet?

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>>149437304
I wonder how strong Pillbox counterattacks are going to be

>>149439001

http://pastebin.com/6H9B4RiG

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>>149439597
>500 ATK, 200 DEF, +2500 aggro
>34% chance to use Pillbox when the Dragoon reduces damage dealt to them, or negates an attack.
>three of them lined up

>>149436889
Will VFD ever make it to PAL?

>>149440289
It is.

Just picked up Fafnir Knight and I'm looking at the DLC. Are the things that make you get better loot and grimoires exclusively for shitbabies, or is it like Fire Emblem Awakening where the game was basically designed around the expectation you would have them?

>>149441259
shitbabies, although nobody will judge you for buying the grimoire DLC, it just makes grinding for things faster. Although you might just end up cheesing the game faster with level 10 grimoires, or at least that was my experience
>level 20 Ecstasy intensifies

>>149441259
The game is perfectly playable without it. It's kind of fun to break things with it if that's your cup of tea though and useful for grinding retired characters.

>>149441393
>>149441481
Alright, I'll hang onto the Grimoire one for postgame when it comes time to do the DLC bosses when game progression is basically over. Should I do story mode or classic?

>>149441912

Bully Arianna.

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>>149441912
story mode's pretty fun, Chloe a cute

I did Classic first though

>>149441912
Most people recommend Classic but Story is fun if you just to bully characters or want a story that isn't exactly a masterpiece. Also Story is the only way to get Fafnir. Classic has the advantage of "make your own team and story headcanon" though. Just pick one your think you'd enjoy more.

>>149440439
Really? I haven't been able to find anything on it other than SEGA announcing no current plans to release it.

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>>149442098
>>149441961

>>149442204
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/07/06/deep-silver-will-begin-publishing-atlus-sega-titles-europe/

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>>149442279

Go away, flatty. This is boobie territory now.

What are the best party setups for EO2U? I want to finally kill Ur-Child and Ur-Devil, but my setup of WM/B/G -- So/H doesn't cut the mustard, and it's caused me to put the game down for several months.

Thankfully during that time I hacked my 3DS so I have all the DLC now. What's the best way to go?

>>149442528
Here's a Ur-Devil build that doesn't need you to grind for add-ons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfvQ3KRNwfY

>>149442528
5 Survivalists

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>>149442289
Ah, beautiful. Thanks anon.

One of these days I'll learn Moon runes and just import shit, or hack my 3DS or whatver.

>>149430782
What does everybody hate so much about Cestus?

>>149444006
tits too big

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>>149444053
>tits too big

Why can Masurao equip heavy armor?

>>149447902
Why not?

>>149437304
Male Goon would work better.

>>149447902
If you can equip four swords you can equip anything.

So, wait Necros suck then? Use up slots you could be tanking with, hit worse than a warlock. Do they literally just exist to spark chasers off the zombies?

>>149454758
Wait for the numbers. Everyone thought Reapers will be trash like EO1 Ronins, and suddenly bam, 2100% damage.

>>149454758
Necro is the best tank, at least in the demo. The skill that guarantees all attacks will hit a ghost until it dies, while boosting its defense, is incredibly good. Combine it with points into the skill that gives ghosts more HP, and the skill that spawns new ghosts if you take no damage and nothing can touch you.

>>149455016
>skill that gives ghosts more HP
It definitely bugs me that you can't give Bunkers more HP.

>>149455282
It balances that you can give them 255Def at level 10 though.

The reason I prefer ghosts over bunkers as a defensive measure is that you can force the enemy to attack a ghost, but you have to rely on luck if you want an enemy to hit a bunker, even with 3500 aggro

>>149455406
>255Def
Is that going to be enough, though? I had the impression stats cap much higher than usual in this game.

>>149455463
Previous game's caps were 99.
255 will certainly be enough. That's the highest stat value possible in EOV (highly likely).
Of course there's no telling how well it'll fare against a post-game boss.

>>149455570
STR, VIT, etc capped at 99, but 300+ DEF on a tank was kind of normal around mid to late-game.

>>149455798
Oh, sorry I misunderstood; thought we were talking about vitality.
Yeah, in that case I guess they may lose potency towards the end game. Unless the pastebin has a mis-translation, and it should read vit, not def.

>>149455942
>Unless the pastebin has a mis-translation, and it should read vit, not def.
Hope that's the case. 255 VIT would be quite impressive, 255 DEF is nothing.

post best girl

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>>149456793

>>149456908
Is that supposed to be genderbent or just regular Trapsnekcht.

>>149456908

>draw a girl
>call it a boy

They can't get away with that all the time!

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>>149457142

Does it matter?

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>>149456793

>>149457582
A non dead one by preference.

>>149456908
Can I breed with it if I believe hard enough?

>>149441259
you can get the tea without the DLC, it's simply much rarer

>>149454758
Wait for actual damage numbers instead of impressions from a demo you cant read. However so far it looks like no class really sucks this time around.

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>>149454758
I want Necrololi to suck me!

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>>149459417

How tangible is one's soul?

>>149451924
>Using your waifu for that

So how many healers are we looking at right now?

Herbalist, Shaman and Hound?

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>>149462501
Necro also has some potential healing capability. Dragoon has a couple of healing skills but the amounts are low.

I'm glad Hound's skills are based on a set amount + the target's HP, rather than their WIS stat or whatever, but it has no revive, unbind, or refresh type skills.

>>149462858
They probably designed it so that if you want the full healing kit then take the Herbalist. Otherwise you're going to have to decide what to give up for either buffs or damage.

>>149462501
Definitely Necro.
Reaper has some heal skills, right? They also get access to the revive union skill.

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>no dlc for gunner

You better do your job, atlus, or I'll riot.

>>149464568
a shit

>>149464568
Fang is better.

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bump

>>149436889
EOIV came out 4 years ago.

New games will always get merchandise.

So how exactly do Union skills work? Is it like 3, where you assign a Limit to 1-3 characters outside of battle and you can then activate the skill with anybody, or does each member equip their own Union skills and they then select the party members they want to do it with in the middle of battle?

>>149470627
The latter

>>149470063
And yet 2020 samurai is getting another figure. And there were model kits for EO4 that came out last year and the year before

>>149456793
Protector-chan

>>149456793
(You)

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Which one? I originally planned to re-create Cotton Candy Protector's color palette, but in the other hand the purple hair seems cooler.

necro seems a bit underwhelming and I'm lacking elemental damage right now
I'm not completely sold on hound either yet
masurao seems just okay so far
cestus is very nice though, definitely my best damage

>>149472646
I prefer the one on the left.

>>149472646
skin color doens't fit with the hair color

>>149474685

What hair colors would fit better with brown-skinned characters then? Brunettes are fine, but are there other options?

>>149466829
>still so happy I found a level 10 Jump grimoire on my first game for the Highlander

>>149475012
blonde/white-ish hair or a brighter pink

>>149475012
Light skin with dark hair, dark skin with light hair.

>>149475050
>>149475397
nicememe

>>149472646
I went with purple too on mine. Also anyone else love their camo skirts?

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>>149475050

>white-ish hair on brown

Indeed, why not.

>>149475012
You can go with just about any muted shade or dark color. If it looks bad it's probably too bright and you need to desaturate it. I like the purple though.

I got a strawberry blonde patchgoon myself.

>>149475012
Just copy your favorite character design from a game/series. I wouldn't put brown on brown because that is a boring design in a game with vibrant colors. Fafnir was well designed, dark skin and light hair makes for a good contrast.

http://pastebin.com/v4qi0HB1

more data

>>149482801
>The damage is multiplied by 1.5x for every party member killed, enemy killed, ghost killed, and ghost destroyed before use.

>There is no cap on how many times Negative Energy can have its damage increased.

Jesus Christ

Wow I've been out of touch. The demo is already out? Anyways I've been thinking of doing a new run of EO3 but the twist being I'm gonna have 1 of every single class and I'm gonna constantly switch in and out. Will I have fun? I can handle the grinding I think. Also still deciding on portraits and names.

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>>149483116
>Sacrifice into Negative Energy
spooky Reaper Necromancer party is go

>>149483705
You can theoretically pump up a modifier of 9375% on Negative Energy

>>149483119
Your fun depends on whether or not your party's skills can have good synergy with its current composition. I can't imagine that would be easy to build around since you are constantly changing composition.

Unless you're cool with Resting.

>>149482801
Added

>>149482801
>Ghost Master
Damn these numbers are way higher than I expected.

>Ghost Dance
>On the turn used, all ghosts will attack three times, with damage modifiers.
>Lv10: 25 TP, 120% dmg per hit, 360% total dmg

>3.6 x 3 x 6.5

>>149483912
Thanks for the advice. When do you think it would be a good time to change up teams? Every floor? Every stratum? I would say during the 1st stratum I should stick to one team because I don't have enough room to grind and train a bunch of other guys very early in the game with weak weapons and armor. Afterwards I think I should switch in and out every floor or two or so.

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>>149484476
still get tickled to death

>>149484476
Video related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V90AmXnguw

>>149484590
I actually haven't gotten that far in EO3 myself, but I would say every two floors wouldn't be that bad. You might need to make a temporary switch to a boss killer formation if you get stuck.
You'll have to remember that stuff in EO games can be expensive at first so watch out for your wallet.

Good luck. Make adjustments wherever necessary.

>>149485287
Alright sounds good. I just need to get the rest of my portraits and names down. Still deciding on the portraits for farmer, wildling, and their names. Also I have trouble on what to name my male orange haired Gladiator. I considered using my name but I quickly changed my mind because I didn't want to do self-insert bullshit.

Holy shit these classes are fucking fun sounding as fuck. I'm so hyped. WHY MUST WE WAIT

>>149486770
one more week

>>149486827
Until what?

>>149486898
It comes out in Japan.

>>149483116
>>149482801
>A note about Negative Energy: I screwed up the conditions for adding a damage stack, and Clarste suggested that the bonus might be additive, which makes a lot more sense.
that kind of makes more sense, every other stacking skill like Resonance is stacking ticks

ded

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tall necro

>>149482801
is there something like this for eo 3. this will be very useful

>>149490105
http://www.intothelabyrinth.net/etrianodyssey3/skillsim/

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WAKE ME UP

>>149493947

Just be glad they don't merge into 1 giant mushroom man.

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>>149482801
>3 Necromancers, Dragoon, Reaper
>Necro A:The Beckoning of Hades, Merciless Wall, Negative Energy, Sacrifice
>Necro B:The Beckoning of Hades, Fire Bomb/Equivalent Exchange, Price of Life, Negative Energy, Sacrifice
>Necro C:The Beckoning of Hades, Moaning Spirits, Fire Bomb/Equivalent Exchange, Negative Energy, Sacrifice
>Start battle with 3 ghosts and all Necros under 30% health
>Necro A spams Merciless Wall
>Necro B and C spamming their attack spells (Fire Bomb we have enough TP items)
>Dragoon using guard skills just in case Merciless Wall can't cut it
>Reaper debuffing to set up Scythe of Transcience and using TP items whenever necessary
>Necro C occasionally casting Moaning Spirits to help Reaper
>Beckoning of Hades gives an endless flow of ghosts
>Now, you're probably wondering what I'm gonna need all these ghosts for. After all, I do build up ghosts for 12 turns...
>All Necros use Sacrifice
>Dragoon uses Full Guard
>Reaper starts spamming HP and TP items to keep Dragoon's guard up
>Necros all start spamming Negative Energy

>>149495919

Mirror Shield

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>>149482801
Disable is a new ailment?

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>>149482801
>There is no cap on how many times Negative Energy can have its damage increased.

>>149493947
I'm still having trouble believing something with 10 hp can protect you from more than one attack.

>>149497917
Everything hits it for 1-2, 3 on bigger hits.

I think it means ailments and binds.

>>149493947
They look like klansmen.

>>149498012
So where the pastebin says 35 Def at level 1, it probably actually means Vit?

>>149499095
That's actually possible.

>>149498915
but they're weak to fire

>>149497917

I put up these barricades at the start of the battle and they pretty much tanked everything until it was over without having to resummon any. Granted the FOE one shot a few of my guys with its poison attack.
>>149435018

>>149499574
Just because an enemy uses an element doesn't mean they can't be weak to it too.

>>149498915
They look like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeMIzUJSpsA

>>149499897
Are all the 3rd row units ailment-proof?

did anyone post the spoilers?

>>149500140
Seems like it

What are some good choices to balance out my team if I want to run Reaper, Masurao and want decent elemental coverage?

Should I just go Warlock, Herbalist, Dragoon or do I have other options in terms of elemental coverage and tanking?

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>>149499095
DEF and VIT count for the same amount in EO5.

>>149500675
>do I have other options in terms of elemental coverage and tanking?
Necros and Hounds also have some tanking and some elemental ability, though obviously not as extensive and focused as Herb and Dragoon.
I think Shaman also has elements.

>>149504150
>Herb and Dragoon.
Warlock** and Dragoon.

>>149482801
Hey, I noticed on Dragoon skill list Bunker has 6/10/16 TP cost, while in game it's 3/6/10.

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>>149482801
cestus soon please

>>149504493
something something the stuff they dataripped isn't 100% exact with whats in the game right now, like the skill ordering isn't the same for some classes

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>>149505212
>200% damage boost
>but takes 50% of your HP to attack

>>149508003
is male dragoon the new sensei?

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>>149508132
He's the new Dr. Scruffy.

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>>149505408
>Rushing Blood triggers whenever you hurt yourself
>Use Giving It Everything so you always hurt yourself
>Use Vajra Stance so you can take the punishment
>Use Dragoon's Dragon Roar to draw attacks to Cestus
>Use Kishin Fist/Raijinken to attack and hurt yourself again
>Rushing Blood gives you 2 attacks from self damage and one for every time you get hit
>Use Soul Smash to recover and activate Ougi Tenchihaten
>Rinse and Repeat

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>>149508003
first thing I thought of I should make a Chaika potato

>>149505408
Dang, Berserker Vow took 90% and only gave you a 90% boost.

>>149508621
Berserker's Vow's 90% was a casting cost though, Ganbaru is like Blood Surge, it ticks everytime you move

>>149508132

Dragoonbro is the straight man that has to put up with the rest of the guild's eccentricities.

>>149508926
Guild babysitter.

>>149508926
>>149509583
there needs to be a Dragoonbro building a playpen out of Bunkers filled with potatos

255 is the maximum number for stats for EOV.

I wonder if going over LV10 in skills will make the damage formula go bonkers like in EOU2 (where LV30 attack skills do like 10000% damage).

https://youtu.be/SfiTqvA_2gw?t=1h6m18s The amount of pop-in is fucking unreal. The previous games didn't have this. Is this just because it's the demo or will the full game acutally be like this?

>>149512815
could be because of the demo, I mean we don't even have the proper OST right now

>>149512815
Wow, I hope to christ that's just the demo, that's extremely distracting.

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>>149512815
i didnt even notice it desu, not that big of a deal for me

>>149512815
What do you mean? If you keep spamming A in a gathering spot you'll get a bunch of text boxes saying you can't gather anymore, and that's something that happens in (almost? I skipped EO4 so dunno) every game.

>>149513349
He means how the game doesn't render objects until you get within a couple tiles, like they're "popping" in and out of reality

>>149512815
>>149512909
>>149513536
The top screen isn't important, anyways

>>149513536
Oh I see. Honestly, I played the demo and I didn't even noticed it until you pointed it out, although when I play EO, 70% of the time I'm actually looking at the map instead of the top screen, so I tend to miss those details, but for some reason I never miss others like shortcuts indicators and such.

>>149512815
I...don't get the issue.

>>149513868
I've been playing the demo and it doesn't bother me but I can see how it would be a massive problem to a lot of people.

They do have a point that it's not an issue in previous games but you don't actually have anything on the tiles in previous games either.

>>149514087
Some people just aren't bothered, I guess. I don't really get bothered by screen tearing, but some people do. Meanwhile, I find this very distracting.

>>149512815
For a moment this actually made me reconsider my purchase of the game, but I guess I'll get over it.

>>149512815
That does look a lot worse than in the other games, but I wonder if I would have even noticed it without you pointing it out.

>>149512815
>drawing walls without humping them
What a monster.

>>149514087
Walls, shrubbery and smaller details start rendering in at about 4 tiles. Personally, it didn't bother me for more than the first hour because I was more blown away by the customization and the actual layout of the first floor but it's a serious problem if the game can't render things that far. So I was hardly paying attention to the upper screen beyond looking to see where the next corner or wall is.

It's only the walls that pop in that really bother me though, the actual tiles themselves are visible and everything until the walls pop in is replaced with a more static background. You can still clearly see where you're going/supposed to go but as I said before it says a lot about the 3DS' limitations.

I'll stick my neck out and say it actually looks a lot better with the 3D on, just like a lot of things in EOV. From the UI to the backgrounds everything in EOV looks better with the 3D on in my opinion. The texture popin is still pretty bad though.

>>149512815
This really seems like a tiny issue.

>Ghosts actually stay with you for a while.
This is honestly the best fucking thing about the class, holy shit I don't have to resummon literally every battle to use the skills.

>>149515981
Seems like everything except the Pillbox/Bunkers can stick around in the field. The dog and the bird even find items and food.

>>149516072
I just realised I can use them out of battle too for full party heals. That's nice. Starting to question if I even need Dragoon now, I'm assuming in tougher encounters the Ghosts will probably get 1HKO'd.

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>>149516431
>I'm assuming in tougher encounters the Ghosts will probably get 1HKO'd.
>Negative Energy intensifies

>>149517217
>Look up skill
>Ranged Untyped attack on 1 enemy. Deals more damage the more deaths or destroyed ghosts there have been prior to use

Suddenly I am incredibly erect. I just need a way to reliably feed this bastard TP for Summons and Merciless Wall.

>>149517217
Still waiting for the other shoe to drop on Negative Energy and Reaper's Transience.

>>149517759

Well the other shoe for Tranzience is that it eliminates debuffs before attacking, meaning no defense down multipliers.

>>149517626
Go full Necro party, with all ghost-summoning passives.
>5 33% chances that any ghost will come back if it dies
>5 25% chances that you'll get more ghosts if nobody has taken damage
It's a shame that the skill for summoning new ghosts when enemies die and Negative Energy are on separate specializations though.

>>149517759
Negative Energy's bonus will reset after cast.
Drop Shot will only work on the enemie's back row.

>>149518131
>no defense down multipliers.
You hardly need those considering how many attack ups you can pile on, plus the heavy damage on it's own.

>>149518274
What if that negative speed modifier is on there so Negative Energy will only apply to those killed during the turn it's used?

>>149518592
That would be a trash spell. The description we have now sounds too spammable so I'm assuming they deisigned it to be powerful but situational.

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>>149482801

And that other guy said that necromancers seem to be the suck class. It seems like they made sure every classes can be broken with the right party.

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>>149482801

>Ghost Secret Arts and Soul Trade
>all members but Necro died from a party wipe
>3 ghosts spawned
>used one of the ghosts to revive them all
>two party members staring horrified as a fragment of their souls were later used as explosives or poison bombs

These kinds of mindfuck is just what I need.

>>149519863
>A necro assembles a guild of newbies
>as the journey progresses and after some fatal battles and resurrections the newbies start to lose more and more of themselves
>by post game the Necro is basically alone with a party of empty husks
>or they become like Bruno Buccellati

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>>149519863
>using the Hound's dead dog to fuel a Fire Bomb

Imagine if Dragoons can carry their bunkers/pillboxes.

But I dunno how will it work in a non-gameplay perspective though. Everyone carries it I guess?

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>>149520857
D-DELETE THIS

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>>149520857

>>149520875
give it wheels

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Masurao Data
http://pastebin.com/pNsapqMA

>>149521224
lmao 4 katana