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Etrian Odyssey General

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>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS

>EOV Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://jii.moe/Vkg7ZHvGW.7z (Famitsu scans)
http://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/etrian-odyssey-v-demo-version-pre-loading-launching-july-20th/

>EOV color editor.
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/

>EOV character randomizer
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/charamake/

Previous thread:
>>149014914
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>no demo in the op

shit thread
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if your demo party doesn't have this Cestus voiced by Misaki Kuno you are not playing it correctly
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hound is so fun
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>>149184142
>having voices on at all
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For the next thread. Got rid of the character randomizer that doesn't actually give random results, or that many kinds of results, for that matter.

>>149183754
>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
>http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS

>EO V Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://jii.moe/Vkg7ZHvGW.7z (Famitsu scans)
http://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/etrian-odyssey-v-demo-version-pre-loading-launching-july-20th/

>EO V color editor.
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/

>EO V demo .cia link
https://mega.nz/#!kFZwRKQI!OrcgaWZA9h3tIzXnY8X43FWxnbR6NjIP_lJr-g4yzsM

Previous thread:
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What do we do if Atlus removes voice options for EO V's dub, so that you can't just do a simple voice file swap to make an undub?
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>>149184280
>Class is called Hound
>the Hawk is better
might as well just call the class Hunter
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>>149184638
>implying it won't be Hunter in the Western version
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>>149184620
then we play without voices and nothing of value is lost
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>>149184418
Why keep the demo news if you're already giving the demo link?
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>>149184620
Play without voices?
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>>149184620
I'm sure they know people can make undubs by now so they'll probably do whatever they did to make Untold 1 undubable
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>>149184708
But then they'd need to change Herbalist's name.

>>149184750
I just did a quick copy and paste. I don't actually read the news section:

>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS

>EO V Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://jii.moe/Vkg7ZHvGW.7z (Famitsu scans)

>EO V Color Editor
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/

>EO V Demo .cia Link
https://mega.nz/#!kFZwRKQI!OrcgaWZA9h3tIzXnY8X43FWxnbR6NjIP_lJr-g4yzsM

Previous Thread:
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>>149184750
Why even have the demo up at all? That just means people are gonna keep asking for translations or how to even use it in the first place
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>>149184940
If a no name company like Xseed can get dual audio, why the fuck can't Atlus get it?

They're charging $10 extra for games anyway.
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>>149184418
>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
>http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS

>EO V Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://jii.moe/Vkg7ZHvGW.7z (Famitsu scans)

>EO V color editor.
http://edit.s2.xrea.com/sq5/

>EO V demo .cia link
https://mega.nz/#!kFZwRKQI!OrcgaWZA9h3tIzXnY8X43FWxnbR6NjIP_lJr-g4yzsM

Previous thread:

Fixed, but great idea.

>>149184620
We'll go full Allahu Akbar against Atlus

>>149184940
Posting PR lies.
Don't be naïve anon
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>>149184940
>No slouches
>Arianna and Hannah's everything; Regina, Abigail and Black Guardian's acting; Artelinde's casting; Hoffman not being voiced by Michael McConnohie like he was in Trauma Center, even though he also would've made for a better Cass (though Thornton was still pretty good as both)
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>>149185117
XSeed can't get it for all of their games – especially Falcom ones, which I don't think have ever had Japanese audio. For all we know, Atlus Japan is just as backwards as Falcom is when it comes to international VO contracts.
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>>149185117
Because they're lazy jews that will cry about how much licensing costs or how it's not a simple yes or no question. And they charge the Atlus tax because they know they can get away with it. They used the excuse with SMT4 that it was a speedy localization,and it's true, though EOU was just as fast and they didn't charge for that one. After that they just decided, "fuck it, this retarded fanbase will defend whatever we do" and just keep the extra 10 dollars for no fucking reason, look at EOU2, it took 9 fucking months and they still gave us dub onry.
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>>149185676
>it took 9 fucking months
Hey, man. Translating two pages that hold a CD is hard work.
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>>149184142
>Misaki Kuno
Which one is that again?
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>>149184948
They would already have to change Herbalist's name. Or they could just write their symbols as Hu/Ho and He, like they did in U2. Personally, I'd prefer if they just called them Rangers.
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>>149184940
Im just hoping they get lazy but not too lazy. I need this undub
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>>149185676
>Took nine months
>Typos, bad line-breaking, and inconsistently-translated terms
>he text for the very first food buff goes outside its text box
What was Atlus doing? Where was the QA?
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>>149186112
We are very proud of our localization team.
Now fuck off.
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OFF WITH THEIR HEADS
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>>149185849
オドオド , I think its 36 or something
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>>149185676
I'm pretty sure they didn't localize eou in under 2 months
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>>149186590
It was a bit more than 3, though nothing they've released in the last couple of years has been that fast and yet they still charge us extra. The only exception being EMD
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>>149186590
that makes this
>>149186112
even worse
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>>149186937
Didn't they also use EO II's translation as a base, to the point that there are entire conversations that refer to content that was removed for U2?
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>>149185781
>>149186112
Those were Index times...
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Is there an image showing the specialization skills we know so far?
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>standard enemies that petrify on the 2nd floor

Ok.
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got my hardest boner in months by giving generic therian girl brown skin
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DANCU TIMU DA
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>owlbear wipes the front row on the last turn before he is killed
classic EO
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>>149189829
>3 names that start with "A"
>2 of them start with "Al"
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>>149190185
A utism
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>>149190325
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>tfw no absolute madman voice that shouts YATTE YARUZE
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>>149189829
>A
>A
>A
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>>149188818
it's ok, it wears off after battle or a few turns and doesn't game over if everyone is stoned
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>>149190185
>not going full Aria on your party
I bet you don't even hahi~
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>>149191146
I wish it did...
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Which OP class combinations should I avoid to make EO3 fun again?

Should I restat everything that has a Gladiator subclass? And My Ninja/Zodiac too? What else?
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>>149191913
The ones I can remember right away are:
Anyone/Gladiator: why think if you can just use Charge+physical skill all day?
Ninja/Zodiac: free skills for everyone, might be fun until you get bored of that though
Shogun/Buccaneer + Anyone/Shogun: Swashbuckling party followed by Warrior's Might, is broken as fuck but also pretty damn fun
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>>149189829
I want Oldgoon to be my dad
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>>149191913
Get a farmer.
Sleep for everyone.
This farmer lasted throughout the main story for me.
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>>149191913
Just use all the cutest portraits.
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>>149188452
Sega bought Atlus in 2013, anon.
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>>149192298
is Strange Seeds as good as I thought it looked? I never got around to using a main Farmer but Strange Seeds always looked like such a neat skill considering I used my Wildling for binds.
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>>149186356
Who's this semen demon
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Post your bets for EOU3 voice actors.
>Yuri Lowenthal for Kujura
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>>149196329
>implying Yuri wouldn't voice dumb ninja kid faggot who gets killed
I forget his name.
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>>149196449
Oh god, I'm hearing it in my head now.
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>>149196449
>>149196329
>Yuri Lowenthal voices everyone
>Even the princess
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>>149196329
Nah, he'll get Vic Mcherpaderp.
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which necromancer ability heals

I can't read shit
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>>149197586

Topmost one on the Right.

Need 2 points in Summon Spirit.
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>>149197586
the one with a heart icon
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list all the eo games in terms of difficulty on their middle difficuty (normal for 4)
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>>149201082

4 doesn't have a middle difficulty, nor does 1, 2, or 3. So I guess EOU is harder than EOU2 on Normal because the Grimoire system isn't as good.
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>>149201082
I'm too lazy. All I can say is that one of the Untolds would be at the top and 4 would be at the bottom.
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>>149201632
Cmon man I just wanna know where 3 is

thats the only one I havent played
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>>149202237
Not that hard, subclasses break the game etc
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>>149202237
I'd put it somewhere in the middle. Subclassing is broken, but you don't have stuff like nerfed dragons from 4.
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>>149201082
Based on "default" difficulty, I'd say
EO2
EO1
EOU2
EO3
EOU
EOU2 Story
EOU Story
EO4
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>>149203560
What exactly does "default" mean for the untolds? And why did you have story mode separate?
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>>149204190
>What exactly does "default" mean for the untolds?
Standard or whatever
>And why did you have story mode separate?
Because they're easier than Classic
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>>149204309
>Because they're easier than Classic

They're the exact same and you're crazy if you think Standard mode is harder than 3 or even 4. I don't remember it being a "standard" to get retries after dying in a battle.
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>>149204883
>They're the exact same
You don't even fight true Primevil/Yggdrasil Core in the main game of Untold. It's a postgame fight.
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"The localised name (In English) from the demo Streetpassing Jpn Copies of the demo is "Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Legends"."

Did anyone check it out?
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>>149205497
Yes. That's what it says when you install the .cia.
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>>149205464
That goes for classic too know you
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>>149205647

I think he's saying that since you fight Primevil in the story mode of EOU, along with all the other Gladsheim bosses, that EOU Story and EOU (Classic) should be judged separately.
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Hello friends. Is there anything close to a general consensus on what the best 3DS EO title is? I can't guarantee that I'll play the game to an adequate degree but I'll possibly try.
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>>149206209

EOU2 is technically the "best", but I would start with IV if you're new or just want to get into the series.
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>>149206209
untold 2 is the superior remake, 4 is a solid new entry
recommending both
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>>149206209
General consensus on best is EO2U, but usually IV is recommended as a first game if starting on the 3DS.
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>>149206209

Etrian Mystery Dungeon
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>>149206293
>>149206304
So I should probably start with IV then. Okay. Stupid question I'm sure but could either of you tell me where I could find a basic "what classes form a decent party and which skills are worth leveling to X amount on each class" guide?

I actually own IV but I've never played more than a couple of hours and I don't remember shit so I would (obviously) restart.
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>>149206209
IV is the best starting point, III is incredibly enjoyable, U2 is the largest and most refined.
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>>149206293
>>149206304
>>149206372
>>149206471

>recommending without telling about all those DLCs

Wew lads.
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>>149206441
Check the OP pastebins, they're not just for decoration.
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>>149206440
How was that anyway? The first and only MD game I played was the new one and I really enjoyed it.

>>149206471
I'll likely go with IV then. I start grad school soon so I have about a month of free time for vidya left.
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>>149206585
It's still the best even without DLCs
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>>149196329
I always thought that he'd make a better Eldest One or prince of Amoroad. Robbie Daymond would make a good Kujura, but he already voiced Hrothgar. But then again, Atlus has already reused actors across games, and there's only been two Untolds.
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>>149206585
>all the completely optional DLC
Sorry, I forgot.
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>>149206441

Here's the skill sim, if you like hard numbers: http://crazyuncleivans.com/eo4skillsim/EO4Skillsim.html

As for party makeup, I would say a Runemaster is a must, especially for newbies. I would also highly recommend a Fortress for someone new, but there are some who would disagree. Either way, both of those classes offer heavy damage mitigation through various guard skills and the base elemental Runes which are just mindblowingly versatile.
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>>149206585
EO4 had DLC?
All I remember are QR codes, which are completely free.
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>>149206725

>a whole class locked behind DLC
>optional

Your ass is more optional.
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>>149206441
The pastebin has a skill simulator, but I don't think it was ever finished.
As for classes, it doesn't hurt to experiment since you only lose two levels upon resetting and it's easy to level up. A nice cookie cutter party would be the one on the cover.
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>>149206851
Apparently you don't know what "optional" means.
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>>149206602
I did but I'm a shitter who would be better off with a clear guide although I reckon I can check gamefaqs while I'm thinking about it. I appreciate the information presented within the EOIV starter pastebin but, new to all this, I am immediately drowning in information that I would never be able to memorize right off the bat.
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>>149206851
>a class that wasn't in the original and is pretty lackluster all around

Sounds pretty optional to me
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>>149206851
It's not like Highlanders are required in every party ever.

That's War Magus, and they're standard
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>>149184620
You can't do voice file swap but swapping the text for menus and story from the US to the JP version is probably not that hard. FEif had an ongoing translation when the US version came out and at that point they simply inserted the missing english text files into the japanese version because the audio files were too different to undub the US version.

Of course an undub for the US version was released later, but it took some time, while text file swapping was done about the same day the US version was dumped, iirc.
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>>149206851
Does not having Memelander keep you from completing the game?
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>>149206935
>>149206983

>i-it's not in the original game so it's okay

Whatever, fatlus.
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>>149205497
Wait, I don't have the demo yet. You're saying that if you Streetpass a copy of the game while you have an English-language 3DS, that's the title that shows up? Is that something do with the cia, or is that basically leaking that a localization's coming sooner than later?
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>>149206851
I got that DLC when it was free and I haven't even touched Highlander. There are way more effective class options and combinations in the vanilla game.
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>>149206950
Then pick your favorites sprites, come back here, and tell us what you chose.

You can beat the game with pretty much any set-up (including 5 Medics), but if you're that worried grab a Fortress (tank) and Medic (healer).
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>>149207071
That's the localised name. Etrian Odyssey V: Beyond the Legends = Labyrinth of the World Tree V: The End of the Long Myth
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>>149207062
Look, we're not condoning Atlus's practices here. The game is 100% playable without any DLC whatsoever, the base game is pretty good as it is. Ignore the DLC for the jewish bullshit that it is.
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>>149207071
Wouldn't Japan's total love of Engrish be a better explanation? A lot of the menus/title screen is in English.
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>>149207054
It prevents you from fully exploring what the game has to offer, so there is some impact indeed. Compare it to the cosmetic character DLC from EOV. Those ones are completely optional and don't have any impact on the game whatsoever.
In any case, can't you just pirate the DLC anyway?
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>>149206950
Pretty much any setup is viable in 4, and you'll probably enjoy the game more figuring out what works best for you rather than some cookie-cutter meme cheese party.
Hell, this general would lambast me for my team setup, but I still beat the bonus dungeon with it.
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>>149207407
>It prevents you from fully exploring what the game has to offer
but it doesn't
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>>149207407
>It prevents you from fully exploring what the game has to offer,
Not having Highlander doesn't prevent you from exploring every nook and cranny of the game. Certainly doesn't prevent you from 100%ing. That's what "optional" fucking means.
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>>149206209
EOU I and EOU II are both solid entries in the series and fairly similar in design, but II has the better execution.

IV has the best balance and some of the nicer QoL features, like being able to add new guildmates at a reasonable level, but the dungeon design is lackluster compared to the other titles. A good starting point, though.

And if you're willing to go back to DS titles, III is arguably one of the best EO games in both class/combat design and exploration. The original I and II were both good for their time, but if you've played any of the other titles, it'll be hard to go back to the fairly primitive systems of the first two games.
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>>149207203
I believe when I played it years and years ago, I had a Fortress, Medic, Landshark, Sniper, and either a Runemaster or an Arcanist. I'd probably go with a similar party this time.
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>>149207407
It does not impact you in any negative way. Highlander is not necessary for completing the game or getting 100%, which makes it optional and even then if your 3DS isn't hacked it costs a dollar to get it.
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>>149207407
>It prevents you from fully exploring what the game has to offer
I didn't get Highlander. Did I miss out on an extra floor or something?
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>>149207608
Except for the part where you can't use an entire class.
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Post guild cards, mock people's choices in build/portraits, etc.
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>>149207734
"Using a class" or "fully exploring," put the goal posts down, faggot.
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>>149207734
Considering you can only use up to 5 classes in a party anyway, that's not much harm done.

You would have been better off arguing about the added bosses.
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>>149207734
What part of exploring the labyrinth specifically requires a Highlander? Because that's what he said.
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>>149207052
But what about the text formatting? I can't imagine the text would look nearly as nice, since everything would be spaced for mono-width Japanese characters, m a k i n g / a l l / t h e / w o r d s / l o o k / l i k e / t h i s. Plus, what about the keyboard and character limit extensions? Unlike Fire Emblem, you need to input text a lot more often in Etrian.

>>149207253
Localized or translated closely? Most of the English titles have been pretty different from the Japanese ones, and I could see Atlus changing that title in particular, because it sounds so boring in English.

>>149207314
That's also part of it, but why bother programming that when most of the people buying the game would never see it? As far as I know, Japanese games usually just display the title in Japanese when they Streetpass an English system, which is why I asked.
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>>149207687
Yes, you missed floors 32 to 69 because you can only access them with a Highlander in your party. They're the only ones capable of climbing that high.
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>>149207959
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>>149207668
In that case I'd say start out with
F / L
M / S / R
and later switch the Medic for an Arcanist if you want.

The starter guide will give you tips on how to build most of the classes. If you build the Landy for Link skills and the Sniper for Squall Volley, you'll be doing excellent damage.
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>>149207778
Wow, that sucks. It's a good thing I'm not poor, though.
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>>149207734
The parts of the dungeon that get cut off are a much more worthy of complaint than Highlander
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>>149207958
>Localized or translated closely?

That's a pretty close translation. Like I've said a million times, 果て does not mean the end as in termination, but as in extremities.
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>>149207668
Also don't feel like you have to have everything planned out before you start. Resetting skill points in IV is pretty easy.
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>>149208118
Weren't Snipers more of a 'debuff'-type class with all their Binds and whatnot? Or can I have some decent Binds while also doing decent damage?
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>>149208149
Did you quote the wrong post?
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>>149207848
>>149207924
"Fully exploring what the game has to offer" as in "doing everything you can in the game", you dummies. Not fully exploring the map or getting 100% completion as listed in the game, but getting 100% completion in your heart, and doing everything you want with the game. Sure enough you can do everything without an entire class, but not being able to use it without paying shekels feels kind of sour.
Not to mention that shiitake a fuckin cute.
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>>149207958
>or translated closely
By who? I won't deny it's subject to change but who else but the people at Atlus went and put that name? Since the initial post said it was from streetpassing JPN Copies of the demo.

Understand you can get it directly from the eShop with freeShop/CIAngel, it's not repacked by anyone prior.
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>>149207778
>Guild Leaders Log
>Year 28, Day 48
>I'm beginning to wonder if we can ever leave this place.
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>>149208269
Sure but I'm very pedantic when it comes to character builds in a video game, especially if I'm not home and can't immediately look up something.
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>>149208270
You could focus them on Binds if you want, but they wouldn't be as good at activating all the Landy's links.
Arcanist is even better at Binds if you want a lot of that going on in your party.
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>>149208270

Snipers have single target binds. Arcanists can bind every enemy at once in one turn.

Once you've unlocked Arcanists, they are much more favorable to Snipers if you were using yours as the primary source of binds.
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>>149208374
Some copies of EO4 had a bug in the "days ventured" field, where it would add 100 days every time you viewed the guild card.
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>>149207958
>Unlike Fire Emblem, you need to input text a lot more often in Etrian.
The amount of text input n FEif and Etrian are about the same, in FEif you can name your castle, Kamui and any forged weapons. And I have no idea how they did it, but they did fix the font for western characters in the english patched version of JP FEif.

Also, I'm sure the character limits are the same in both regions (more like, we're the ones usually limited by the japanese character limit).
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>>149208296
>but getting 100% completion in your heart

Alright cool, so now you're just making up bullshit because you don't like DLC, we get it.
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>>149207778
>tfw I've still got the level 10 guilds back when we were sharing treasure map QR codes
Those four years went by like nothing.
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>>149208213

>not in the original content
>cut off

Seriously, you guys will always have a thing to complain.
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>>149208296
>in your heart
Why do I get the feeling I'm replying to complete horseshit. Your feelings are fucking subjective let the Anon decide whether he's "fully exploring what the game has to offer" himself.

I don't like DLC either but come on.
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>>149208296
Yes, and I bet you play the game repeatedly until you've used every class in every possible combination with every other class. Because you wouldn't have done everything you can in the game if you didn't at least do that much, right?
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>>149208448
>>149208456
Does it take a while to unlock Arcanist? I have no idea how class unlocks go in the game either, if they're fairly obvious when unlocked or if I would have to go through a convoluted process in order to unlock them. I wouldn't mind eventually getting an Arcanist to completely shut the enemy, or enemies, down. Especially when bosses.
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>>149208270
They're also the crit whore class.
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>>149208626
Arcanist is unlocked after the second Labyrinth, and subclassing is unlocked halfway through the third.
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>>149208626

You get Arcanists at the end of the Second Stratum. That's early enough that you can fit one into your party without shaking things up too much, especially since you'll get some scrolls to bring them up to the right level.
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>Thread alive
>It's just shitposting
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>>149208296
>but getting 100% completion in your heart
Shut up, Anon. Just say you're upset that you didn't get your waifu during her free week.
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>>149208747
>>149208626
Don't forget you're better off retiring at level 40ish to redistribute skills better anyway, it's a perfect opportunity to use different classes.
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>>149207778
>10266 days
Retire everyone and replace them with old men.
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>>149208627
Even with skills critting they were pretty low on damage. You really only wanted them for link fuel, but using links really wasn't that useful towards the end of the game

>>149208750
Thanks for your amazing contribution.
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>>149207778
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>>149208787
>>149208610
>>149208607
>>149208535
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>>149208985
>using links really wasn't that useful towards the end of the game
U wot
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>>149208235
Yeah, I've seen you say as much plenty of times. I shouldn't have phrased that as a question, though; it looks more like a translated title to me.

>>149208313
Someone at Atlus Japan? They'd need at least one person fluent in English to correspond with the US branch. I haven't bothered with homebrew yet, so I don't know if this is because of whoever made the cia or if it's ingrained in even legit versions of the demo. I don't know how this stuff works.

>>149208504
The Etrian games usually extend the character limits for names by about 2–6 characters for the English version. Plus, you're forgetting map annotations.
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>>149208985
>but using links really wasn't that useful towards the end of the game
Do you just mean no-chem Warped Savior or something? My Linkshark was very useful throughout the 6th Strat and against the dragons.
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>>149208610
Isn't replaying RPGs you like with classes you didn't use in your last playthrough customary though? Or at the very least giving every class a little try before deciding on your main party.
Don't tell me that the majority of people just gets a 100% with a single party and that's it, they abandon the game forever.
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>>149208721
>>149208747
Neat. I may change my initial class makeup but F/L/S/M/R sounds good to start off with, then replace S with an Arcanist later on if I get that far. Now to find somewhere which tells me which skills are worth investing into and which to stay away from.
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Which NPCs can you bang in 7th Dragon VFD?
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>>149209112
Why not ask /hbg/ how it works and you'll have your answer.
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>>149209391
Anon, I get that you supposedly won't have a lot of time for video games, but you're getting to the point where you might as well just follow a walkthrough.
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>>149209391

The skill sim that was posted gives you the percentage gains and effects of each level.

But the most important thing is to only put a few points in the Runemaster's elemental attacks, enough to advance to the next tier, but make sure to level the base Rune elemental buffs early on.
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>>149209391
If you have a dancer, don't take both fan dance and speed boost. There's a bug that makes Speed Boost cancel fan dance. Take fan dance, but ignore speed boost.

That's the only one I can think of off hand.
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>>149209416
Pretty much all named NPCs,including party members. Not even shitposting. Go make that slut with whopping cough an adult.
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I wonder what other silly Adventure Episodes the game will have.
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>>149209565
No no, I swear this is the only other thing missing for me. I can explore and (try to) map out the dungeons on my own.

>>149209646
>>149209680
Will keep these in mind. Thanks. (Strange bug.)
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>>149209390
If anon actually wanted to do everything possible within the game, that would mean parties like
>Hi/L/L/L/L
>Hi/Hi/L/L/L
>Hi/Hi/Hi/L/L
>Hi/Hi/Hi/Hi/L
etc. Not just trying out each class once, since tactics will change depending on your entire party.
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>>149209730
Stopping an army of squirrels.
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>>149209112

With the Title ID and Title Key, the stuff we were trying to get a few threads ago, you can download the corresponding file straight from Nintendo's eShop servers, or whatever, meaning, the name that appears is very likely whatever it came with originally.
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>>149203560
>story under classic
>skipping gimmel
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>>149209858
When are we going to get a squirrel FOE that steals items with every hit?
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>>149209947
Jesus christ how horrifying
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>>149209390
>Don't tell me that the majority of people just gets a 100% with a single party and that's it, they abandon the game forever.

These are 100+ hour plus games, and I usually try to level everything in post game to have more options. I'm not that much of an autist
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>>149209927
>a tank with elemental walls, stats specifically set to remain a tank
>a gunner with elemental shots that obliterate all mechanical enemies
>Highlander, period
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>>149209769
Well yeah, trying silly parties like that should also count as well, to a degree where you still get enjoyment out of the game.
And I'm obviously not talking about restarting the game all the time with a different party each time, just rotating your party around or changing it around every so often. Or is this where the uneven XP autism kicks in?
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>>149209112
Like other anons said, it's from Nintendo's servers. You're not downloading chink scene releases. Also, Atlus is an international publisher, getting someone to come up with a title should be piss easy and already done at this state since it's not like localizations start only after release.
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>>149210325
Well, if he's autistic enough to say "100% completion in your heart" as if it were a real argument, he strikes me as the even exp type too.
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>>149209769
I soloed EO4 with a single Bushi once.
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>>149209112
>The Etrian games usually extend the character limits for names by about 2–6 characters for the English version.
Well, that's something that could be an issue, but I'm not expecting a language patch to be completely perfect anyway, I'm just saying it's the best option we could have to use the japanese voices + english text.

>Plus, you're forgetting map annotations.
You can forge a lot of weapons in FEif and name each one of them, in any case, the amount of text input is not a issue at all, the only issue with text input is the character limit.
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What is the point of these adventure episodes or whatever when they're literally just like the events from before with exp at the end?
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>>149211082
I like all the events from before, so I'm hardly going to complain.
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>>149211082
The point is the exp.
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>>149211082
The DM is rewarding you with RP xp.
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>>149208985
Snipers are the earliest class to have access to their best skill at relatively full strength compared to everyone else since they get it at Veteran which is basically Stratum 2 to most of 4.

This makes them pretty much the best damage dealers for most of the game if specced properly to abuse the glitch with Squall Volley.
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>>149209105
Takes too long to set up for random battles and important end game battles dispel/bind/etc.

>>149208985
A Squall Blood Surge sniper with a few HIT trinkets or forges are beastly. that or a land with their class mastery for more acc
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>>149211716
How do I punch him until he gives me more EXP?
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>>149214169
Everything outside of Auto Spread Venom and Shockwave spam are comparatively worthless for 4's endgame.
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>>149211082
Wait, so you get experience for having diarrhea or poking beehives with a stick now?
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>>149214764

Yes.
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>>149214816
Do you also get exp for refusing to jump into frozen lakes or answering no to other things?
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>>149215298
>refusing to jump into frozen lakes or answering no to other things?
But what kind of self-respecting adventurer would refuse such a thing?
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>>149215298
>refusing to jump into a frozen lake
Pussy.
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>>149215298
>Saying no to things
What kind of adventurer are you?
I bet you don't even catch crayfish.
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I'm gonna do it.
I'm going to play through EO4 five times and then do it a sixth time with an all-Logre party.
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>>149216512
The absolute madman.
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>>149216512
I got to three Logres and got bored.
Maybe I should have kept my map data.
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>>149215298
>not doing life-threatening stunts for shits and giggles
>not inflicting suffering on yourself to face the real dangers
Cowards like you are only good for the farming party.
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>>149216769
You keep complaining about that but at the end of the day me and my clones are the ones who bring in the cash.
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So what was in the locket?
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>>149216949
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any point to guild cards in EOV?
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>>149217183
I feel ashamed that I saved that image.
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>>149216949
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>>149217286
I regret nothing.
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>>149217275
Treasure maps, also you can recruit their "face" character.
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lmao 2bunker
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>>149217286
I feel ashamed for posting this image over and over again.
I can't stop posting it.
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>>149217523
>>149217183
Is it time to post best girl?
>select all images with trees
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>ricky with a sailor outfit
EO3U confirmed.
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may we never see "ricky' again. amen.
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>>149217724
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>>149217870
Ricky is torever
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>>149217756
>heart pupils
SLUT
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>>149217870
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>>149217884
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>>149217724
Any art of him in his cursed state?
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>>149217870
Things are always a little rocky for a few weeks after a new janny wave, newfags, thread police, doing this for free, etc. time weeds them all out then its back to normal.
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>>149218093
Look up this >>149217183 artist, they went through a whole Baldur phase.
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>>149218093
Ask and ye shall recieve [spoilers]whether you like the results or not.
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>>149217870
I wouldn't mind finding Ricky's rotted corpse in a labyrinth.
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>>149218093
Imagine what he could do with those vines.
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>>149218438
>two boys
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>>149218562
Oh, anon. Baldur isn't a boy.
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>>149218685
stop!
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>>149218562
>>149218685
And Logre isn't a boy either, he's a man.
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>>149218256
>somebody actually lost to this guy
>badly enough to render it that dramatically

Man I've never even played one of these things before and I facefucked him pretty effortlessly. Is he considered a tough boss?
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>>149219074
I think that artist just likes guro.
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>>149219491
Weebs are so weird
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>>149219540
>weebs
I don't think you're using that word correctly.
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>>149219756
Says the guy using that phrase incorrectly.
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>>149219756
I've seen plenty of people use it refer to the Japanese themselves nowadays. You pretty much just know these words have completely lost their meaning and it's usually idiots that use them anyway.
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>>149219975
>"O-oh shit, they caught me being a retard, I know, i'll lie about how i've heard it used!"
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I do wish I could find more of this, but EO4 fanart has died off.
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This is the face of a trustworthy man.
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>>149220745
does he have Bara?
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NO MORE GAYS
MORE
GAYS
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>>149220857
He's too skinny to have bara
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>>149220996
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>>149220943
What's that, anon? More gays? Well okay, if you insist.
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How come 2 gays come off as more annoying than a crowd of waifufags
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>>149221448
That's what faggots do best.
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>>149221448
Because dead hours
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>>149220745
He looks like one of them shady rapists in those Oriental sex comics.
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>>149221541
What's with that one red lock of hair, anyway?
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>>149219019
>ALCHEM over TROUB
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>>149219019
>renamed survivalist
>didnt rename land to warrior
eh
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>Go to ebay to buy EO1U.
>more interested in watching the preview under it
>its some fag playing the demo poorly while mumbling.

It's interesting watching some complete casual play this.
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EOV's first stratum reminds me of EO3's. Shame the npcs and music seem worse. But I feel it can potentially dethrone Eo3 as the best etrian
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>>149222343
The key for 2 is one more to the left.
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>>149222343
woops meant to type 'mainline' etrian
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>>149222343

>Guildmaster just chilling on the 2nd floor
>Innkeeper wandering around on the 3rd floor

Absolute madmen.
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>>149222534
>Single bunnygirl can survive 3 floors of the labyrinth without mauled and/or raped
Why the fuck is she running an inn?
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>>149223038
Same reason I went to medical school for four years and spend half my time in the hospital ward in prison.

Sometimes you can kick the shit out of someone to get what you want.
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>>149221649

It is the seal on his dark powers.
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>>149223146
Anon, did you kill a man?
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>>149223303
Nope, its a weird middle ground of having your own private practice and working in a general hospital. Days are never boring and the pay is better.
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>>149221393
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I'm not sure how that guy did it since extracting save data is borked on EOV demo right now but here's some lists.

http://pastebin.com/PVTnCXQd - Player skill name table

http://pastebin.com/ReqwuKgS - Race skill name table
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EOIV newfag here: What icon do you guys use for "crevices" and the like that transport you from one square to another? I chose to use two of the same number at each square on the map but if there's a better alternative, I'd love to hear it. I'm confused as to why there are two separate type of 'arrows' as well under the map icons.
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>>149224167
>DUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMYDUMMY
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bunnies confirmed
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>>149224615
If you mean the unfilled arrows, that is for autopathing.
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>>149224615
Also one other question: How important is anything involving the overworld?
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>>149225594
Oh. Are there autopathing segments in the game (where I wouldn't have control over my character or something)? Otherwise I'd probably never use them. Honestly don't see myself using many of the options on the map other than the bare basics.
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>>149225716
you can draw your own autopath segments, its useful for traveling to places repeatedly like stairs or shortcuts
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>>149225462
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>>149225852
I want to fuck a bunny
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>>149224615

Footnote with the axis of the destination (A2-24, for example)
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>>149225762
Oh, do you mean like a "fastest way to X" thing? I can see it used that way.

>>149225980
That's pretty hardcore but I think my way is more efficient. Good idea, though.
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>>149225930
Who doesn't?
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>>149226102
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いらっしゃいませ
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>>149226161
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>>149226049

>pretty hardcore

Wait until you are in claret hollow.
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Reminder to preorder the Teach DLC so you can unlock the Veteran's Emblem and fight the original three dragons.
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>>149226205
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>>149226268

>using a cake instead of a young fencer

What are you doing, mate?
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>>149226202
Please, we're wounded a few dead.
Stop screaming at us.
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>>149226202
Why does she have a tail? Does that mean the other bunnies have tails?
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>petrified party members still gain experience
>just realized this means that every petrified character you come across is fully aware

Jesus Christ.
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>>149226525
イラッシャイマセ!!!!!!!!
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>>149226261
That zany? I'll probably run out of numbers.

What do you use for items on the map? Specifically, chests. Granted I'm still in the tutorial dungeon because I haven't played very long and my 3DS was dead but I don't see a reason to jot down chests I've opened. Now if/when I run into things I can't open right then, or directly access, then I'll need something.
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>"I'M GOING TO TANK THAT DRAGON'S BREATH ATTACK WITH MY FACE"
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>>149227436
>just realized
Even though everything with petrification makes such a huge deal about it?
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>>149227137
Bushi had tails, too.
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>>149227917
Those are some Fire Emblem Awakening-tier feet.
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>>149227603

>Chest - Clover
>One-time event - E
>Curious things - !
>NPC - ?

That's pretty much it
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>>149228027
They're wearing boots.
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>>149228040
That's handy. I'll have to remember those.
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>>149228074
I meant on everyone.
Everyone either has tiny feet or no feet at all.
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>the only latest EO i can emulate is 3
Kill me
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>>149228257
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>>149228257
Stop being a cheap asshole and buy a game.
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>>149228257
>not owning a 3DS
>even to pirate
Dumb pirate.
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>>149228257
>own EOIV and never really played it
>now playing a pirated copy
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>>149227841
I've never played FFX. Just FF1 back on the NES, which I don't think had petrification.
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>>149228543
I meant petrification's portrayal in the media in general. It's really worse than death.
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>>149227532
Can we please go to a different inn?
I don't care if it's under the sea.
I don't care if it's DLC.
I want a comfy inn, I don't need this cock hungry bunny screaming in my ear.
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>>149228840
Play the english version later, voiced by the same girl who voiced Hanna
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>>149228320
Low quality text was bothering me.

>>149228952
>Her actress' normal voice is pretty high-pitched, so she would actually fit
I don't know what the fuck Atlus was smoking, getting her to voice a middle-aged woman.
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>>149229225
>Low quality text was bothering me.
>stupid ape
>not "stupid FOE"
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>>149229274
Luckily I still had the file open.
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I wish you could name everyone in your guild EMD. Some of the names are horrible. I've got a Protector names Tim and a Hexer named Dan. Sounds like 2 dudes who are going to fix your printer.
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>>149229668
u wot m8?
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>>149229668
???
You can name everyone made for your guild. You're hiring random pre-named characters you've run into in the dungeons.
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>>149229668
>Not going on an adventure with the Best Buy Geek Squad
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>>149229668
>I wish you could name everyone in your guild EMD
But you can? What?
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>>149224167
http://pastebin.com/raw/KeAa7j4h

Organized in case anyone else wants to read it without suffering. Seems to have both skill branches for all the classes.
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>>149230556
neat, mastery classes have an entire skill set, I was worried they would only get 2-3 or something from the preview.

So you have Basic, Racial, and Mastery pages.
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>>149229929
>>149229929
>>149230102
Yea you can rename them all in the Guild but I'm just talking about when you first get them, the names are goofy. And it's not just the ones you "run into in the dungeon" it's all of them; when you register a new fighter they give him/her a name.
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>>149230556

There's a Dummy class. The secret class perhaps?
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>>149232014
its got skills of everyone else though
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Is there a cheat sheet that would let me know what the fuck am I doing with the skills in the demo?
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>playing 7th Dragon VFD
>get to 4th Dragon Hypnos
>casts confuse/paralyze on everyone
>it cures itself from ailments and immediately charges for an attack that leaves all the party members with an inch of their lives, bleeding and sealed, so they might as well be dead
>always targets that crucial party member because fuck your guts
>pre-battle dialogue is "please kill me"
I give up, I'm gonna grind.
I tried keeping that fucker asleep for long enough to buff everyone to hell and back, get some god depth on it then unleash unison but something always goes wrong.
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>>149233707
ok
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>>149233290
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>>149233798
That's some /v/-tier screencapping.
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>>149233846
/v/ screencapping is plastering reaction faces all over the place while enlarging the appropriate text about 100 times
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>>149233798
I was hoping more for a screenshot of the skills screen with translation slapped over it, but I guess this will have to do, thanks.

If I respec at lvl 1 do I still get 3 skill points? Can I respec at lvl 1 at all?
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>>149233798
Damn, Necros are so awkward. I thought they were the new hexers. But they're some back row tank(?).
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>>149234227
the skills are from top to bottom so it shouldn't be too hard to figure out

you can respec at 1 to get all your points back, sometimes I respec over and over to see what starter skills are good
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>>149235343
Yeah, but the skills in the game come in two columns.
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>>149235581
you mean the racial skill page and the basic skill page? some of the racial skills are set from the start and you can't reset those
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>>149235673
No, I mean skills on both of those pages have two columns.
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>>149191382
but it does
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>>149235820
oh wait you're talking about the ordering of the skills, I thought you were saying something weird about resetting skills.

The translations go from left to right, top to bottom, and always skills with prerequisites after all the skills that it requires

So if you look at the Cestus image you have

[Knuckle master] [Physical Attack Mastery]

[Flicker]
[Armbreaker] --> [One Two]
[Liver Blow]

[Blood Rampage] [Do my best]

[Thunder Punch] [Demon Fist]

Also a correction for Do My Best, it grants a buff to an ally that makes them lose HP whenever they act but increases their attack power. Raising it lowers the amount of HP they lose but at 5 and 10 the HP loss shoots up again and the attack gain shoots up.
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>>149236151
Thanks, I'd have probably figured that out eventually.
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>>149233707
use the Duelist's support defense, it recovers all status. I always had 2 duelist in my rear row to abuse this
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>>149236304
just ask anything here if you need clarification, I only added the Kanji to the later ones for easy recognition
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who dat
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>>149236689
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>>149236749
I don't think so.
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>>149236689
>three dollars for one portrait
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>>149236954
give me the Teach DLC and I'll pay you whatever you want!
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>>149236954
Lots of portrait DLC this time.
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>>149236976
How do you want your Teach?
I'm having mine well-done.
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What's a good party for the demo? I tried going without a Herbalist and while it went okay at the start I got into some dialogue that killed half my party and after that I got trashed by some plants because I forgot to buy a thread.
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>>149237109

I want to molest that tongue.
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>>149236954

How much for DLC for shopkeeper replacement with Edie?
How much more for a lewd hotspring version?
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>>149237856

Priceless
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>>149221872
>survivalist in the front row
Probably a Dark Hunter.
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>>149229668
>My name's Tim
>I fix printers
Well fuck.
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So after finally playing through the demo, i want to ask, do you guys feelb like all the changes were good and substantial or just changed for sake of change?
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>>149240059
I am really not liking this new ui but everything else seems to be fine.
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>>149240219
I don't like how basic all the classes are starting off and i feel that this whole 2nd name system will just end up being a glorified way to gate skills again.
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>>149240425
2nd name system?
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>>149240624
It's called 二つ名 I think, i don't really remember much about it but it's basically a specialization for a class, and you get to name it whatever you want
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So have people figured out what VA each voice belongs to?
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>>149241995
https://twitter.com/sq_kouhou
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So what's the run down on the union skills? Will you be rewarded for making specific combinations of races? I didn't pay much attention to EOV news so far.
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>>149240059
Adventure episodes feel really weird. Not the general dungeon event nature of it, I really liked those moments in past games, just the pausing for a moment, handing you exp and generally taking you out of it.
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>>149242627
Made this from the GameFAQs thread.
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>>149244276
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What're the options for the party members in the guild? I think the 2nd option is for resting and 4th is for deleting but what are the other 2?
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>>149244645
change apperance and change name?
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I wonder what's the estimate on how high the stats can go. 999?
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>>149245920
>starting accessories give +12 to an attribute
The power creep is gonna be disgusting.
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>>149245920
It's either 255 or 300
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age
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>>149244276
>temporary Analyze
Fucking finally
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>>149244276
>skills for increasing backpack space
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>>149244276
>Unlocked at lvl 5:
>Unlocked at lvl 1:
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>>149248158
explain how that's better than a normal analyze=
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>>149248610
You don't need to spend money on the item, or farming the rare materials for the said item in the first place.
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>>149240059
I can't read jap so can't really speak much on any events but I like it so far, I'm glad classes have stricter roles and it's something I've personally been begging for since EOV was announced.

I don't like the layout of the camp screen, feels like just a lot of empty space to give you a nice background image. However, I feel like I'm the only one ITT who loves the style and color selection of the new UI though, the previous ones were always kinda meh and not even worth mentioning.

Also I think this is the first game where they actually put some effort into making the game have a noticeable difference with 3D on. The town and its locations look a lot better with it on.
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>>149240059
I hate how can't see farther than a few squares in the labyrith.
It seriously hurts the exploration and it doesn't seem like such a necessary measure, because the game doesn't really look any better than the previous 3DS games.
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>>149236994
>>149236902
>>149236689
Are these just generic school uniform portraits?

Maybe they're hinting at the EO3 remake.
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What's the best leveling method in demo? Masurao arena? Reaper luring?
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>>149240059
I really enjoyed the demo.

The UI was great and super smooth. The only issue there was the camp screen's horizontal layout, but I got used to it.

The character creation was good fun, and I enjoyed the skills on over. I was a little underwhelmed by the size of the basic skill trees, though. I hope we acquire the next set early on enough to keep progression interesting.

Not 100% sure on how I feel about the racial skills yet, but they didn't stick out at first on the whole.

Adventure episodes were cool, and it was fun to get (negligible) exp for just the smallest things. I'm looking forward to perhaps more significant ones in the full game.

Being able to enter the dungeon at any fully explored floor is alright. Definitely an improvement from the Untold floor jump, but I don't see it as a significant improvement in any way over good old walking.

The pop-in in the dungeon (you can only see ~4 tiles ahead like the DS games, some small decals only begin to show at 2 tiles away) was annoying at first, but I've come to look past it (though I still don't like it). This was the only thing that really stood out as a negative point. Everything else I can write off as a change in style.

Of course, the music was on point as well.

Overall it was a good time but I can't give a real verdict until the full game is out.
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>>149229668
>those hips
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>>149249975
>the color of that shirt is blue, must mean U3
>that NPC has big titties, must mean U3
>there's water in that picture of the world map, must mean U3
>they tweeted something about EOV, must mean U3
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>>149248610
If it's not permanently added to your log book, you won't lose track of what drops you've actually gotten.
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English voice names with samples and VA names.
http://pastebin.com/raw/DcTMa4kb
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Where's the best place to import games from these days? I'm interested in picking up both this and Ys VIII but I don't want to wait until the end of August to get them
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>>149252318
No, I just think they may be related to U3 because their designs look a lot more like Untold characters.
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pg10
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>>149244276
Between these and the Adventure Episodes, EOV feels more tabletop than ever.
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>>149250770
kill the FOE on basic
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>>149248424
Didn't even notice that. Thank you.
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What kind of parties is everyone running in V?
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>>149257883
Masurao Cestus
Necro Herbalist Hound

It's pretty OP in all honesty
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>>149258024
Was thinking of doing the same thing. I tried it with a Shaman before and after getting into some dialogue which killed half my party I got trashed by the next encounter due to having no hp and no out of combat heal. I will also redo my talent points because I put one into mastery with every character for no reason and ended up with too few skills.
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>>149258128
My necro has the sacrifice for heal skill as a panic button. Otherwise herbalist and hound passives heal the party.
Necro is focused on the defense skill and has 4 points in 'chance to create a new ghost if you took no damage'. Probably the best defensive skill in the demo; definately better than Fencer and Dragoon's defense skills.
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>>149257883
Fencer Cestus
Hound Warlock Herbalist

My defensive options are purely in mitigation from binds and blind, I wasn't really worried about taking damage because I the front liners both had good vit. Chain skills where doing really good damage and hound is just amazing.
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>>149257883
I want to hear thoughts from anyone trying out Necros or Hounds as healers. Does it seem viable so far?
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>>149258998
Necro's heal can support the party as a sole healer if you put 2/3 points into it.
Hound's heal is better used in tangent with another healer, since the amount it heals isn't significant, but does add up over time (around 8-10 HP per turn (depending on character's max HP) at sill level 5)
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>>149257883
Masurao Cestus Dragoon
Necro Shaman

Honestly thinking of dropping Dragoon for something else but I'm not sure what else really fits, I could use Fencer for Chain shenanigans I guess but I think I dont actually like Fencers that much, kinda want to steer away from typical JRPG swordsman class.
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>>149258998
they seem like decent enough trash encounter healers but probably not good enough for bosses
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>>149258998

The heal is pretty expensive early on, 12 TP and costs a ghost, so if you don't get a lucky summon in battle, it's another 5 TP on top of that. That said, it's my only healer and one problem I have run into is that 1 party member will get hit for significant damage, and I have to choose whether to leave them at half HP or spend a ghost and 12 TP just to heal one person.
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>>149257883
Dragoon Masurao Reaper
Necro Herbalist
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>>149259580
I'd say go fencer, since your shaman can enchant everybody with elemental attacks.
If you really don't want a Fencer try using a hound or necromancer
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>>149252505
Thank you.
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>>149259781
do masurao's multi hit attacks etc all profit from being elemental enchanted?
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How do you lads build your Dragoon? Self-tank or Cade-tank?

Also, anyone have list of specializations for all classes?
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>>149259781
I already have a Necro, I'd sooner drop both Shaman and Dragoon for Reaper and Herbalist since I do believe they'll synergize well in later levels but its just not worth it for the demo.
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KONO KEIKI
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>>149259880
Not sure, didn't try that particular combo out. I'd expect the enchantments to work like they have in every other EO game: they only apply on basic attacks.
Fencer chases also follow pierce attacks, although the only pierce damage you'd get from your party now is by giving the Shaman a bow.

>>149260008
I agree that some things are hard to judge, since we only get 12 skill points, and reaper probably will get better I hope
Having a Necro and Hound in the same party is perfectly viable. I'm doing it, and it works just fine.
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>>149184142
But it is. On day one of demo out of intuition
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>>149257883
MDF/NHb

Masurao and necromancer are doing all the work so far.
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>>149257883
Masurao Cestus Fencer
Dragoon Herbalist

It's so weird having every character of the same race having the same stats. I would think the Dragoon would have higher VIT.
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>>149257883
Fencer/Dragoon/Reaper
Warlock/Herbalist

I thought I could get away with using a vanilla team. I was wrong because holy shit I take so long to kill things
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The eggheads down at gamefaqs seem to have gotten a glimpse into all the skills for all the classes, and translated their descriptions, from the Demo code.

Spoilers for some Mastery skills.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CL02stg0VtBOr5LWmYjoMBWzFdOD64tXQ3uT7WKiUEI/edit#gid=0
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>>149261836
>unburdened
will naked runs start being a thing
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>>149262097

That image of Teach throwing down her equipment and dancing around to Provoke the monsters comes to mind.

Can't remember if that was fanart or from one of the official comics.
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>>149262097
Glass canon dodge tank I guess.
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>>149261836

>Sanzu's Crossing

2 or more Masuraos in one party might make this the new Warrior's Might, unless there's a limit to follow up attacks.
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Does EOV have the alter class feature EO2U had?
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>>149262934
yes
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>>149261836
Anyone else just get denied permission to this?
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>>149263157

Yep, just don't close or reload the window.

Some retard collapsed the Japanese description window, probably to make it easier to see the English names and descriptions easier, and didn't realize the whole Doc was editable by anyone.
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>>149257883
Too lazy to get the demo, but I'm planning on using
>Cestus(Berserker) Masurao(4 Swords)
>Necro(Sacrificial) Dragoon(Gunner) Shaman(Elemental)
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>>149236689
>>149236902
>>149236994
Looks like characters from another game they scrapped and threw the portraits in EO for a quick buck.
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>>149261836

>Hyakkaryouran

this sounds like it's gonna be a hell of a mob slayer
>4 swords
>5 enemies on screen

20 hits, jesus
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>>149261836

>Tochka
>Set up a pillbox that can take hits and has the ability to counter

If you don't think that's the tightest shit, then get the fuck out my face.
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Dummy? DLC class?
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>>149250823
>but I don't see it as a significant improvement in any way over good old walking
When revisiting areas you can stomp easily
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>>149267069

No.
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>>149267105
Yes.
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>>149242725
I feel the same way. The events are great, but the way it stops to give you a summary and experience at the end kills my immersion every time.
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>>149267617

Just think of it as your party keeping an explorer's journal.
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>>149268595
But I already do that with notes. I don't want the game doing it for me.
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>>149268796

Well then I guess you're FUCKED.
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>no ecstasy like skill on reaper/cestus
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>>149269427
The classes have promotion trees. Stuff like that are obviously reserved for those.
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>>149269837

We can already see the Mastery skills here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CL02stg0VtBOr5LWmYjoMBWzFdOD64tXQ3uT7WKiUEI/edit#gid=0

They've even been color coded for Basic skills and the 2 different Title skills.
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>>149270117
I don't think that's all of the skills. There's a bit of dummy data.
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>>149269427
>Reaper
>Great Scythe of Cold Ash: Attack 1 enemy row with Melee Cut + Freeze attack, follow-up attack on targets with ailment
>Scythe of Transience: Remove all debuffs from 1 enemy and make as many Melee Cut attacks as debuffs removed

>Cestus
>Lead Blow: Melee Bash attack to 1 enemy. On enemies with binds or ailment, follow up with the skill that causes that same bind or ailment
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>>149270967

It's for skills that are part of other skills.

>For the record, while there are a lot of dummies, a lot of those skill in the middle are actually the secondary effects of other skills. For example, the follow-up attacks from a Chain skill are technically a different skill from the buff you give yourself, so they have a separate skill ID that's called on by the main skill.
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>>149270117
Any indication on sub-classing?
It looks like there are way too many points in the class's own tree so maybe not.
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>>149270978
>removing defense debuffs before attack
lead blow will be good if it can hit 4 times though
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>>149271229
It probably has ridiculous modifiers.
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>>149261836
>stratum boss & npc enemies spoiled in a demo
end game bosses seems to resemble EO3 but in reverse huh
>auto bunker
> swordman & gunner skills & parry in enemy data
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Is there some kind of pastebin or document with translations for things in the demo? Would any of you be interested in starting one?
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http://pastebin.com/1VadSizW

Fencer Data
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Any hints at a secret class?
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What are you going to name your specializations?
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>>149272831
Nothing.
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>>149272643
>Dodgetanking class
Somehow I feel this isn't going to work very well in practice
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>>149272831
Considering every single game has had unlockable classes, it's almost certain we're going to get some. I kinda hope it's lizardmen.
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Remember to add all this stuff to the OP
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>>149271649
as long as the last boss isn't an MMO admin
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>>149273374
The moment you're leg bound or paralysed it'll all go to shit.
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>>149273883

Or blinded, which I'm sure will be common.
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>>149273883
Well it's no different to arm bind causing everything to go to shit with shield classes.

>>149273940
Blind doesn't reduce evasion as far as I remember
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>>149273940
or when there's a monster that just has stupidly high speed that you cant dodge
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>>149272831
Squid girls.
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>>149274013

Pretty sure being Blinded means you can't evade attacks.

At least in 4 it was used to ensure Squall Volley hit every time.
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>>149274085
Squall Volley needed Leg and/or Paralyze.

It also had a broken bug involving criticals but that's another story.
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>>149273374
more interesting than yet another elemental chase party
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>>149274225

Then I'm mistaken. Could've sworn I used blind for Squall Volley and to hit Hollow Queen's Backup dancers in the 2nd stratum.
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>>149272831
There are some extra skills in the Google Doc starting at ID 545. Some have names like Poison Fang, Sharpen Claws, and True Protection of Carapace. Definitely sounds like it could be some kind of beastly race. Probably Lizards.
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>>149274341

There's been some screenshots of an armored, lizard race looking enemies. Might be on the official site but definitely in the character trailers.
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>>149274013
At least in that situation the shield class is still pretty fat. If you're using umburdened you have nothing to save you..

>>149274225
I'm interested in this broken bug.
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>>149274565
if the first hit crits, every other attack crits
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>>149274607
Nice, is it possible for the other hits to crit if the first doesn't?
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>>149274565
Every hit following the first crit is a crit. It gets absurd if you get a crit on the first attack and the rng gives you all of the hits.
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>>149274743
probably, I havent played EOIV in forever though.
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>>149265982
>5 bunnies
>5 enemies
>20 swords
>100 hits
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>>149237109
Undercooked, out of a can and on clearance for a few cents.
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>>149275129
>5 bunnies
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>>149274225
>>149274085

Booted up IV since I definitely remember using Blind with Squall Volley and every hit landed against the Supreme Wing Bird FOEs in the first land each time I tried it. Without blind I missed more than half the shots.

Also checked the Jap wiki and it says Blind disables evasion, so for IV at least, Blind definitely disables evasion.
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which skills are worth investing in first for masurao/cestus/necro/hound/herba?
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>>149276113
Nigga it's a demo, figure stuff out yourself
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>>149275348
It's funny, but the first panel triggers me, as that team composition is not available in any game.
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>>149276672

I think "farmer" means any backup gatherer
in which case it's doable in EOU2 classic
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>>149276672
I'm more triggered by the lack of any damage on her team
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>>149277596
That party is not likely to die, they can just dump a bunch of stat effects on the enemy and then proceed to scratch it to death.
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is there anything I can do here other than take a lot of damage? help an eop out
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>>149280639

Is that the crayfish 2.0 event?

I just chose randomly and won after 3 tries.
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>>149280639
I think you can catch a turtle
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>demo released
>page 10 anyway
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>playing EOIV
>level 9
>can kill the two Furyfawn in the Small Orchard but the Furyhorn runs up on my ass and fucks me up
Wat do
I'd grind here but the exp gain is so minuscule it's like I'm playing a slower Maplestory
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>>149283347
>everyone here can read Japanese or has a hacked 3ds
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Is the demo in CIAngel?
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>>149284645

Don't know, just install the .cia from the thread.
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>>149283942
>grinding in IV
Why
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>can't buy ariadne threads
>tutorial mapping floor has no shortcuts
am I missing something?
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>>149285182

If you're talking about the demo, yes.

There are shortcuts on the first floor, and once you map it, you can buy ariadne threads.
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>>149285182
I think i found like 2 shortcut between floor 2 and 3. Look gor tiki stone looking star thing. Is the rock blob looking thing next to the girl on the app image
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>>149285351
Where? Not him, but I've checked every single wall and found none. The two that I found were both on 2F.
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>>149285609
there's one on the left but I died before I could go back and turn in the things I needed to map
great idea putting oneshotting bears on the first floor before you sell threads
got bodied twice now because the blinding spell doesn't hit
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>>149285609

Yeah, I misspoke, the shortcut I was thinking of is on Floor 2. Got confused since I always enter onto the 2nd floor from Town.
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>>149283347
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CL02stg0VtBOr5LWmYjoMBWzFdOD64tXQ3uT7WKiUEI/edit#gid=0

All skills are listed and descriptions are here if anyone wants to theorycraft some parties
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>Double Punch, Cross Counter, Lead Blow, Rush Out
>Grit, Giant Killer, Soul Smash, Back From The Dead, Ougi Tenchihaten
Choosing Cestus specializations is gonna be harder than I thought.
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>>149286595
>magic class whatever they are called have a cut, bash and stab spells

pretty cool

>yfw the old trio of dragons fuck off and we get stab dragon, slash dragon and bash dragon instead
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>>149275348
>now mota artbook never
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>>149288841
I hope Atlus replace Himukai with a better artists for EOVI
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>>149289201

EO6 illustrated by ZUN when?
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>>149289201
>EOVI with Miwa Shirow
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>>149289201
Himukai is a great artist, I can't imagine EO without his art, it's like Koshiro not composing the soundtrack.
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>>149289201
Alright the designs for EOVI are now done by Kojima.
How do you react?
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>>149292634
The Castlevania Kojima?
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>>149293592
Yes Ayami Kojima.
The best Kojima
The cutest Kojima
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>>149293812
>people who claim EO is "all about muh loli" freaks out with her bishie designs

I'd love it
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Vampire-themed EO when?
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>>149283942
Don't fight him yet, wait a few levels, wait till youre at floor 2 of misty ravine.
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>>149288704
basically one of the mage specializations gives it physical magic

and the other one focuses on the elmental trio
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Do Necro's ghosts have enough HP for Merciless Wall to be a suitable method of Tanking?
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Stop fucking dying all of the time goddammit
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>>149298238
Not enough Ricky
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>>149298238
Death comes quickly and silently in the labyrinth.
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>>149299706
/10
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>been playing with slowsticks because of the final splatfest
>start wondering why adventurers do not carry torches
huh
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Hmm... no actual stats on the extracted equipment data, only their descriptions.
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>>149300418
Been seeing this dark skin animu girl but never from where. What animu?
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>>149305024
Fuck off.
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>>149305134
The fuck do you have stuck in your ass? Its just a simple question to know what anime she comes from
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>>149305024
Boku no Pico
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>>149305134
Literally autism
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Dragoon numbers: http://pastebin.com/6H9B4RiG
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>>149306076
Im at the icescream scene. How much longer for brown sugar?
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>Dragoons can use each others Bunkers.

Welp, I'm going 5 Dragoons with Teach as the leader. Elemental damage be damned.
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>Warlocks can equip guns
Yes but why
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>>149307081
Best fucking tank in the series?
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>>149307081
>Bombardment Prep
>Increases the damage, accuracy, and speed of the artillery skill used on the next turn.
>Lv10: 20 TP, 2.5x damage, 5.6x acc, 3x speed

>Buster Cannon
>Damage is multiplied by 2x if both the Dragoon and their target are in the front row
>Lv10: 40 TP, 520% base damage

WE ARBALIST NOW
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>>149307858

I don't know, I'm partial to Fortress/Dancer: Effective Evade Tanking with unlimited TP and Parries.
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>>149307841
It's a ranged weapon that I assume requires less strength and training than a bow to be somewhat effective. Gives them something useful to use when they need to conserve TP.
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>>149307841
so they can pretend like they're doing something in the backrow

A lot of weapons also have M.Atk now so you don't really lose anything
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>>149308125
Forgot that existed. Doesn't the new chacer unit are huge evade tanks on this game?

To also add, these damn dragoons are stacked as hell with offense and defense
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>>149307858
EOU1's Protector. I was really mad when they nerfed them to shit in EOU2 just because of Beasts.
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>>149308690

The Fencer takes a massive penalty to defense if it wants to use its main evade tanking skill, meanwhile, with Fortress/Dancer you get the unbreakable Party Guard, evasion+parry combo, and sacrifice none of your defenses.
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>>149307920
>tfw this gen tanks are a mix of a bunch of strong shit from the past

USA WHEN
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>>149307858
>Crits bypass Guard skills
Nope
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Are the Cestus's gauntlets actual weapons or are they the regular gloves that all classes can equip?
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>>149309754
I don't believe any of the other classes can equip the Cestus weapons.
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>Dragoon lets you kill an FOE at level 4
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>>149307081
>Lv. 10 Full Guard
>50 TP
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>>149309106
just put down a million bunkers, these things have crazy high aggro
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>>149307081
I might actually run two dragoons, these masteries look so fucking funny together
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>>149308125
It was effective but unnecessary, as IV was really easy.

If V is harder then Dragoon will be much better by comparison.
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>>149311065
>Young wildcard gun nut who pumps everything full of lead
>His sensible grandfather who's just trying to keep him from getting himself into trouble
I like it
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-3rN4573watIzxLISqbc-QpppVLzQytRBeHluxHS7j0/edit#gid=0

Not fully done yet though.
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>>149309106
I think its less crits bypass guard skills and more that crits are back to their original version whether they outright ignore defense period.
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Little tip for Union skills: only the person initiating the Union skill needs 100% Union, any co-operators need just 1% or more Union.
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>>149307492
dude
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>>149317949

>unburden fencer build
>naked sword-wielder just like EO2 naked lands

At least we will be getting some lewd fanarts when the game is out.
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>>149319159
At least Necromoe won't be the only pervert around now.
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Don't die
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>>149292634
It's shit in an overly fabulous way.
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>>149320061
she could raise my boner from the dead if you know what I mean
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Since when is there an EO general? Is this for the new one coming out? Anyways I'm here because I have an issue.

I knew nothing about DRPGs and I found EO:IV and I loved the demo, so I bought it. After I bought it I was finishing up a bunch of other games I started playing before, and over the course of that time the two Untolds came out. Because I'm a collector I wanted to get the release editions so I bought them both.

After this, I really focused on the game and only then realised how much of a commitment it is to beat one of these games, and now I have around 150 hours of Etrian Odyssey on my back. Now, still going through EO:IV, I'm learning about other DRPGs I want to play and beat and it's getting very overwhelming.

I was thinking of selling the two untolds I have and just moving on with the series as it develops the next iterations in the series, but the release editions are so nice and the games are probably good, so I'm stuck here.

P.S. I'll be keeping Mystery Dungeon
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>All this news about skills
>We still manage to hit page 8
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The worst part of EOV is that if you tap the color you were last painting in on the pallet, it won't switch you back to the paint tool from the pen, but tapping a different color will.
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>>149322241
tl;dr
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>>149322241
>Since when

For longer than you'd believe.
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>>149322181
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>>149322405
>collector
>eo was the only drpg i knew
>playing other games before playing eo
>bought the games as they came out because i liked it and knew of no other drpgs
>started playing eoiv
>realised i got myself in over my head
>learned about other drpgs and want to play them
>still have 150 hours of eo on my back
The untolds are just re releases and I was thinking of just moving forward with this series, which I'm doing with SMT (a series I enjoy more), but I already own these really nice copies of them, and they're probably good games. So I'm not sure what to do.
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>>149322892

Sell them, or don't sell them, or kill yourself. Any will do.
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>>149322319
still waiting on Necromancer statistics to see which route I go
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>>149322319

>talk about a game we can't have until mid 2017

Why bother?

inb4 EOP, you pretentious weeb
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Can I bang this beautiful man... woman... person?
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>>149324081
you can pretty much fuck anyone in VFD
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>>149322892
You'll finish them eventually.

>>149323304
I think I'll go with the Sacrifice route. I'm not planning on using Herbalist, so that full-party revive might be worthwhile
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>>149324270

Can you fuck the dragons?
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>>149322319
>>All this news about skills
>>We still manage to hit page 8
Don't you mean, baseless words without pictures?
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>>149324270
Here's a better question: who CAN'T you fuck in VFD?
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>>149324617
Yourself
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>>149324270
>you can fuck the asthma girl and her dad
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>>149325109
>Maximum slut mode activated
Who is is your VFD slut, /eog/?
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>>149325512
The one from a good game
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>>149305024

Tamako Market, senpai.
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>>149325512
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Why is there no Necromilf art
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>>149326897
Because she looks like shit.
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>>149326897

No little boys for her to bully.

potatoes don't count
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>>149326897
Hard to draw with a hard on.
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>>149327058
It's more fun if she bullies teenage boys.
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>>149326897

Because she's just a younger Ursula.
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>>149327486
>absolutely no room to fit a Necromancer into my party
>still want one
this sucks
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>>149322241
>>149322892
I personally would say 'keep and play them both', but if you're set on selling at least one, sell EO1U first.
EO2U is better in almost every way.

I would suggest delaying your decision until you try out the gameplay in the other DRPGs, in case if you end up liking the Etrian series the best.

Another tip for freeing up time: if you happen to be a completionist, be a little less of one with EMD.
The final weapons are gained by farming random drops from bosses at the ends of incredibly long dungeons.
Just be satisfied beating all the dungeons and quests.
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>>149327486
That gives me the perfect idea for her specialization name: UnfortunateSoul.
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>>149327881
I was gonna go with "Semen Demon"
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>>149327058
The Warlock is perfectly fine with them though.
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>>149328080
>boy potatos
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>>149328080

The more clothing a Lunarian wears, the more deviant they are.
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>>149328480
I don't even want to know what this sick fuck does to girl potatoes.
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>>149326897

Just like there is little fanart for eyepatch dragoon. They will come eventually when the game is out.
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>>149324610
Technically...
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>>149328787
>to the girls
yeah, sure
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>>149328787
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>>149329375
at least there's no stomach deformation
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>>149330706
>Always eating cakes and other sweets.

Ricky is going to look like Hanna when she gets older.
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>>149331514
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Is there any point in using the Guard skills when you can just set up bunkers?
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>>149332621
just bunker my shit up senpai
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>>149334476
>literally the first image of the demo posted in this thread.
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>>149334528
I was playing EDF all day ironically, only started up my demo today
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>>149334476
>can't name your bunkers
Back to the guild hall you go.
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>>149316805
The effectiveness is diminished proportionatly to the other particepents union guage level
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full game leak when
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>>149330982
But even Himukai himself said that that is the way to go with brownies.
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>>149339498

The two ought to stick together and let the big sis to star in her own game
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>>149345034

Potatoes serve as effective swords in a pinch.
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has someone ripped the music from the demo?
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Warlock numbers: http://pastebin.com/b5CKz6he
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>>149349071
That Magic Weapon Increases every 5 weapons doe
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>>149349071
>TP cost doesn't go up every level
>a good boost in potency at level 5, and a huge one at level 10
>even the mastery doesn't seem completely worthless
Holy fuck, when did they finally learn how to make useful skill trees? Was EOIV like this?
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>>149349071
So how does High Speed Incantation work? After getting it, you can use a slightly more expensive compression/multihit/reduction and another spell in the same turn?
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>>149349961
Pretty much
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>>149349686

IV was the start with the Imperial's Drive Buff system that allowed for, essentially, transformations and more complex ideas for skills that interact with other skills.

Also, since it seems that there's no subclassing or grimoire equivalent, they probably wanted to incentivize actually maxing out a skill instead of trying to find the "softcap".

I remember that they mentioned Class of Heroes as reference for the summon slots and mechanics, such as skills beyond heals and warps that can be cast outside battle, and I'm honestly surprised how well they managed to incorporate it on their first try; Necromancer and Dragoon feel great and I hear good things about Hounds.

>>149349961

Once you levell the passive, any time you use an Incantation skill it's basically like picking a modifier for your next attack. Meaning, it won't take a turn to do, it's not a buff that you apply that allows you to then choose an Incantation and then an attack, it becomes an innate ability, so you'll probably want to save it for when you can put a few levels into right away if you plan on using Incantations as well early on.
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>>149350080
That sounds amazing, looks like I'll need to get a Warlock in my party. Sadly both their portraits don't appeal too much to me.
>races have the same stats until you choose a specialization
>this means that Necromancers have the same stats as Warlocks
Oh boy, so that's why you can customize class portraits. Time to fund the Stripper Ranger guild.
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>>149350423
>not liking Insomniac Fuccboi
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>>149350423

You can also use another Race's portrait and then Alter Class to a Warlock, though in the Warlock's case, it's probably not a good idea since the Brownie's specialize in WIS while Warlocks specialize in INT.

It's better if you want to make an Earthrun a Therian class or vice versa since you're only trading speed or a smidgen of strength or surviability.
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War Revive
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>>149349071
>Magic Shield
>34% at level 1
Jesus Christ.
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>>149352542

Do it right.
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>>149349071
In Bravely Second spellcraft was really cool, it's great to have some of that here with the incantations.
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>>149349071
>Magic Weapon
>Type: Active

>Deals melee INT-based damage to one target. The element's based on the user's weapon.

>Has no speed modifier at all levels.

>Lv10: 10 TP, 450% damage, +10 base accuracy

u wot
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>>149354594
They probably have really weak weapons.
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>>149355705
They can use guns
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>>149349071
The incantations and cut/bash/stab magic sounds really fun. At this rate I'm not going to have any room for a healer on my team at all.
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>>149327486
>1st run
>Necrololi, young male Dragoon, young bunny Hound
>NG+
>Necrotitties, grandpa Dragoon, grandma Hound
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>>149324876
You're not trying hard enough.
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Why do people think bunkers are good if they only have 10 hp?
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>>149357286
>1st run
>Turban Cestus, Brownie
>NG+
>Buff Cestus, Brownie with Gray hair
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>>149358078
They seem to have really high aggro, so they're cheap way to completely nullify an attack.
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>>149358078
Their HP doesn't scale up, but their defense does by quite a bit. They're good hit takers with high aggro that make sure your party takes zero damage from at least one attack rather than reduced.
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>>149349071
I'll compile these links into a pastebin so we can put it in the OP.
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>>149357575
For the NPC dates, how long does it take to unlock each event? I've told Eigur my character could use a massage five times at this point.
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>>149359225
The events change after you upgrade the Skylounge, so you're kind of story-gated
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>>149358078
For some reason, every attack on my bunkers is always a miss.
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>>149359395
Doesn't 0 damage show up as a miss?
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>>149358905
>Great idea, just remember to see this version of the OP that include the demo .cia.
This one >>149185123
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>>149358905
There was also a pastebin for VA names, and the google doc with the skills listed out, think you should include those as well?
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>>149359935
Might as well, someone might be interested in them. I'll add those in too.
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>>149184418

>don't put in the randomizer because it sucks
>put in a demo anyway because everyone else has a J-3DS

That's some reasoning.
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>>149360076
If you have a hacked 3DS, you can play it anyway
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>>149360076
I think this is because the randomizer is not really random, I was only able to see like 4-5 characters only after 10 tries.
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>>149349071
With the second specialization, looks like there's some potential for TP battery strategies with Shaman's first specialization
>Magic Leak
>Explode
>Shaman gets 5 TP with each cast
>Shaman uses Protection of the Offerings
>Warlock gets extra TP
>Hound/Dragoon in the same row now has enough TP to go ballistic
I wonder if the Shaman's numbers would actually make that a good strategy.
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>>149360076
The randomizer isn't "random". It's like 3 different colorcombos.

Also having a hacked 3DS is a thing, it's incredibly easy to do and it allows you region free. So playing the demo won't be much of a problem now.
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>>149360076
The color editing is still there, better than a randomizer, imo.
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>>149360186
>>149360386
>>149360571
>>149360796

If you want something to fill the OP, then how's this? http://pastebin.com/raw/DcTMa4kb
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>>149361087
What is this? The VA list?
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>>149361087
Already added to the pastebin I'm compiling, don't worry.
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>>149349071
I'm shit at math, is this correct?

>High Speed Incantation + Multistrike Form + Windstorm/Rockfall/Earth Spike
>5 + 25 + 27 = 57 TP
>2.25 x 180 x .75 x 2 = 607.5% Min Damage
>2.25 x 180 x .75 x 6 = 1822.5% Max Damage
>1215% Average Damage
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>>149361330
Don't forget Amplifier and Reserve Magic
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>>149361330
I don't think you can stack chants
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>>149307081
I have no idea how to build Dragoon now. Artilery sounds great, but lack of preemptive Cade seems kinda scary.
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>>149361748
High Speed Incantation is a passive
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>>149361748
High Speed Incantation isn't actually an Incantation. It's a passive that lets you use an Incantation and a Spell in the same turn.
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>>149361658
Amplifier increase MATK, right? I don't know how to calculate how that impacts damage done.

Reserve Magic
> +25%
>1240% Average Damage

>>149361748
High Speed is the one that lets you Incant and use a spell in the same turn. Multistrike is the Incantation, Rockfall/etc are the spell skills.
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>>149361987
>Reserve Magic
> +25%
It would be *1.25 rather than just adding one quarter of an attack on.
So more like 1550% average
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>>149361330
Oh wait, that 2.25 shouldn't be there? Now I've confused myself.
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>>149362269
>High Speed Incantation + Multistrike Form + Windstorm/Rockfall/Earth Spike + Reserve Magic
>180 x .75 x 4 = 540% average damage
I think that's it.

>>149362210
If it's a "25% damage bonus," is that
>(180 + 25) x .75 x 4 = 615
or
>180 x .75 x 4 x 1.25 = 675
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any big difference between hawk arrow and twin wing flash?
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>>149347992
https://mega.nz/#!GdtlBbBC!xaNCVm-gdvt3fsbqXiL86mbHjvFKdEgD3La_L9hlAjs
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>>149362691
Based on the description for Multistrike,
>Lv10: 25 TP, 75% original dmg per hit
that could mean the damage for each individual hit is calculated first, and then the other bonuses are added on, so I'm guessing it goes
>(180 x .75) x 1.25 x 4
So it'd be the second formula.
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>>149362691
And for comparison
>High Speed Incantation + Compression + Windstorm/Rockfall/Earth Spike
>180 x 2.25 = 405% damage
>57 TP

>High Speed Incantation + Compression + Explode/Ice Stream/Thunder Break
>270 x 2.25 = 607.5% damage
>70 TP
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>>149349071
>spec 1 - boss killer
>spec 2 - field sustain
Is this correct?
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what's the point of alter?
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>>149364294
Petrification.
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>someone swapped one of the basic shaman skills with a mastery on the doc
>can't edit
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>>149365916
It's 巫術:再生 you retarded fang poster
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>>149366789

Don't bully the fang
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thinking of reclassing an earthrun to masurao for that sweet VIT boost, but their high LUK is wasted. There doesn't seem to be drawbacks for using a Therian fencer.

An easy chase set up seems to be fencer + shaman
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Sorry for being retarded, is there a list of translated skills in the demo
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>>149368610
Look through the previous threads.
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>>149368610
psst
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CL02stg0VtBOr5LWmYjoMBWzFdOD64tXQ3uT7WKiUEI/edit#gid=0
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>>149368610
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CL02stg0VtBOr5LWmYjoMBWzFdOD64tXQ3uT7WKiUEI/edit#gid=0

If you're ever looking at the Shaman skills, be aware that Oracle: Dance is actually a basic skill, and Oracle: Three Run is a specialty skill and not in the demo.
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>>149368756
>>149368863
>>149368871
Hell yeah, thank you.
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Best potato.
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>>149371536
: >
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>>149371536
literal peg legs
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>>149371536
>yfw Mediko is technically a potato
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>>149372770
Death to all potatoes
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>>149373312
you're not getting my guild card
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Who the fuck puts a tie on a cat?
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>>149372770
It's an abstract kind of heal.
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pg10 already?
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>>149374827
Who the fuck gives a dogboy a pet dog?
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>>149377842
hounds seem a bit underwhelming so far

necro seems meh as well considering the damage is pretty bad and the party wide heal takes two turns if you have no ghosts. maybe they get better once I can let the ghosts tank hits

my cestus is definitely the strongest one in my party right now
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>>149377842
For some reason I thought he was some midget or shota at first but he's probably not any younger than Fencer
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>>149377842
the dog is his brother
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>>149381530
Eh, they're not quite shotas but I still plan to have mine be younger than the rest of the guild.
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>>149380730
At first I thought Fafnir was holding Arianna back from smacking someone up.
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Is there any reason why you would use a sword on a reaper? You can't use any scythe skills.
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>>149384225
offhand stats maybe? still a terrible idea
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i wasn't expecting to like cestus a whole lot but they're really fun
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>>149381530
>he
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>>149386245

It's because they have ridiculous synergy with themselves and almost every skill inflicts binds.
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>>149386442
this class is actually so fun even though it's so simple
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>>149361087
>http://pastebin.com/raw/DcTMa4kb
>No Sugita

At least there's Jouji Nakata and Hayamin.
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>>149388816
>Hayamin
>お嬢様
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Is there a fan-translation project on gbatemp yet? Translation itself is going well, but it requires some typesetting, graphical editing, and script replacing.
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>>149388816
I instantly picked Sugita in VFD.

But Nakata doing a cultured voice seems just as good.
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>>149393053
Tittymancer gets me so hot.
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>>149393171
>not lolimancer
nigga you gay
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>>149393580
pedo
boy bodies
gay
etc

Look we been through this a few times before and dont really wanna use my /vg/ repost timers for this. Lets fight another time, ya?
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>>149386245
>>149386442
good to hear that they're better than EO3 monks
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>>149394134
Monks could have been good if they put any effort at all into Fist Mastery instead of just focusing on the Medic revamp aspects of the class. Breakfire Fist and the only Curse skill outside of equips are the only things they have going for them offensively, and needing an empty slot to use them kind of sucks, whether it's the Weapon slot or the first armor slot(treated as "off-hand" when empty even though subweapons outside of Shogun weren't a thing until IV).
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>>149393053
>poor little living boy
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>>149386085
This person has gone down the rabbit hole (not the perverted one) too far.
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>>149393053
>I'll do my best!
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Do we know what Miasma Weapon does on it's own yet?
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>>149398817
It just gives you access to certain skills and bonus effects.
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Stop dying.
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>>149401848
make me
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>>149401848
revive me
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>>149371536
But that's not sextato.
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>>149402497
that's a fat ass
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>Been looking at Reaper skills and still not sure what the FUCK they're good for

Did they make it drastically easier to apply status or something? They look like such a headache to use consistently, even if paired with an Herbalist.
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>>149402096
war revive?
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>>149402817
>have to keep up miasma weapon and have to keep up statuses
Reapers better have some godlike multipliers in their 2nd Names or else this isn't going to be worth the effort
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>>149404192
I'm thinking it'd be worth building around a Cestus/Reaper/Herbalist core for keeping up binds and ailments but I just keep thinking how lame every normal encounter must be to require setup everytime
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>scan a QR posted in this thread
>go play the game
>run into that guy's lead
>he gives me some food and 100 exp
Neat.
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Hound numbers: http://pastebin.com/trP5AUFC
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>>149408294
>Ice Peck

oh boy, I can't wait for all the hawks named Petshop.
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human herbalist y/n
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>>149409583
Wait for mediko DLC. Racials too good to pass up.
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>>149408294
Thanks, added
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>>149410374

Do want to make note that I am not the person making these pastebins, I'm just posting them here for others' convenience.
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>>149410549
That's fine, having this in the OP should be useful either way
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>>149406770
Can't wait to meet Guild Dickbutts in the labyrinth and finally give them my thanks in person.
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>>149408294
pupper master race
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Anyone have an idea of what the max enemy and item discovery percentages are for the demo?

The highest I've seen have been 10.48% for enemies, and 12.01% for items.
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anyone know what to do for the quests? I want to do them but I can't read moon
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>>149411819
Take youre phone, download the google translate app, and then read with picture translations you fucking faggot.
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>>149408294
>The heal is a static amount plus a percentage of the target's max HP.
That's not as bad as I was expecting. Combined with Healing Boost I guess you get 185 + 41%.
Animal Therapy looks like it will be useless, though.
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Someone have the racial skills image?
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>>149408294
>When an enemy's HP falls below a certain HP threshold, the Hound will attack with their equipped weapon.
Kaishaku lite
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>>149411991

See: >>149256546
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>>149411956
And because of that 2-heals limit, maxed Medical Lick looks like it does 140 + 40% to four units, and 70 + 20% to one unit.
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>>149409842
but I thought she had potato racials
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>>149412851
Yes that's what I mean.
Mediko will probably have potato racials, which is better than making human and reclassing to Herb.
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>>149412637
>140 + 40% to four units, and 70 + 20% to one unit.
I mean 210 + 54% and 105 + 27% with Healing Boost.
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Someone figured otu how Union gauge is supposed to work?
I can use Union skills with members who aren't at 100%, and it doesn't seem to have any worse effects.

What I do right now is use TP Union on characters 1 with 3 4 and 5, then 2 with 3 4 5, and cycle between 1 and 2 whenever they're fully charged. Having much better sustain in field now.
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>>149411715
that's what I have, might be missing some rare gathers but I don't see any monster conditionals left
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>>149413995
Neat, thanks.

Looks like I'm missing out on some gathered items as well, time to catch up.
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star drop on steroids. hound will be essential for the ex-boss cheese setups I guess
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>>149412097
Thanks.

Anyone tried the Grace of X skills? When does it regenerate TP? How much?
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>>149414808
>2.5x for the whole row
Fluffy murder machine.
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Shiettt, I respecced my hound to be falconer but now I gotta respec back to doge
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Is that anon who was compiling the pastebins around? We're maxed out and on page 10.
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>>149415492
I'm right here. I'll make the new thread.
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>>149415554
we live general!
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New thread: >>149415797
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Now that nobody is around anymore I'll pleasure myself with this potato.
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