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/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist & Payday 2 General

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Payday edition

Previous Update: >>148922364

>(NEW) Workshop Manual
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/workshopmanual/

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (Frank is back)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://pd2skills.com/

>Old Skilltree Guide:
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (out of date, somebody update this shit already):
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHEkCM3fTrc
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So uhh
When's new stuff?
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>>149389431
right now
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>he doesn't have Criminal Intent set as main menu song
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YEAH
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>>149390479
BABY YOU KNOW ABOUT THE AUTUMN
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What's generally accepted to be the most useful akimbo weapon? I've been using the crosskills lately, and they're not too bad. I was using deagles before, and despite the low ammo count I really enjoyed being able to one-shot tans in the chest from across the map.
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"Please let me die" - /pdg/
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>>149394221
Akimbo p90's...if they existed
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Akimbo Judges when?
Or Matevers.
Or Sweepers.
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>>149394221
Akimbo Krinkovs.
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11th for Lucky Clover aka best heister of the game
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If the flamethrower left a trail/area on fire using gel, like they actually did when the military used them, would it be better?
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Is using the Minigun with Low blow aced actually worth it or just another meme build ?
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I miss the old Payday 2. Now I just use it as a mask designer.
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Why do people have such an hard-on for the M308 ?
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>just did Birth of Sky with a literal 12-year old on my team
help
H E L P
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>>149403885
Meme to an extent, Body Expertise Ace and Surefire Ace is enough reliable damage. That, and it lets you actually give accuracy to the minigun.
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>>149404237
just like people loved the deagle from few updates back, meta
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>>149404237

- Hits the 181.6 breakpoint with pretty much any damage boost, which everyone has in today's Frenzied Berserker meta.
- Can reach 100 Accuracy / 100 Stability without silencer skills.
- Point and click most targets, they die in one shot, tasers die in two, dozers go down like Monica if you remove their face shield with HE and/or turn on the giggle switch.
- Decent mag size with the larger mag skill, and can still get away with 10-round mag because of how powerful and accurate it is.
- Not a DLC weapon and doesn't require DLC or even any mod drops to be amazing.
- Muh 7.62mm Real Fuckin' NATO.
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>>149404237
It's basically the new CAR-4 after the Crimefest Unbalance dumpstered all ARs that weren't the M308 for a few months. Now they're only semi-trashcans.
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>>149388134
>threeyearsofpaydaymemes.png
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>m308 now meta weapon
>left it behind forever when sniper rifles came out
I just don't find it to be competitive with sniper rifles, especially when specials spawn by the dozen.
It's fun on OVK, I guess. And I'll always have PD:TH for M308 sharpshooting.
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Personally, I'd rather use the AMR DMR over the M308.
However, the M308 does have that 10 round mag, which makes it appetizing for Lock 'n' Load Ace, but still has only 70 rounds anyway.
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Is silenced shotgun build a meme?

Does it work well with dodge?

Is dodge even dw viable anymore?
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sniper rifles lack all stability, i can never get/find mods
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>>149416645
yes
shotguns don't need it
heck no
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>>149417481
they don't need stability
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>>149416645
Yes.

Sadly yes, hence the meme.

Yes, but you need to git gud.
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Are safes supposed to drop only from multiplayer lobbies with at least two players? I must have done like 15-25 jewstores and I didn't find any.
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>>149419504
It's probably not based on number of heists or probability at the end but more of a timer at some random point in the week.

Just do a couple heists a day and don't worry too much about it.
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>>149419504
you only get like one a week
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>>149418004
ehh, still want auto fire for close in situations were you dont have time for side arm
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>>149302673
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Speedlock Holmes (slakt_1)
- Vlad Is Mad! (vlad_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>149417784
>heck no

I literally just finished Hoxton Breakout DW as dodge/hostage taker.

Though someone was running frenzy anarchist so that may have helped.
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Why would anyone not use AP rounds on Silenced Sentries*?
AP is just better in every way and Silenced Sentries actually survive.
*when available
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>>149420357
I know, it's been a week since I last got one.
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>>149421070
its annoying as fuck trying to put AP back on after reloading the sentry. I have to jump 20 feet back to keep myself from grabbing it again. Why cant we just keep it in AP state
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>>149421605
For the same reason my laser sight turns off when exiting a vehicle.

>overkill
>fixing things
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>>149421713
Theres a BLT at least for remembering gadget states
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>>149421961
be the one to make the mod
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>>149421605
I almost wish there was a second use button.
And, yeah, make sentries into silenced when the skill is bought, and use AP rounds when bought, but it'd still be nice to just have a button to repair and reload instantly rather than having to pickup and replace, though that's fine I guess...
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>>149421070
>Why would anyone not use AP rounds on Silenced Sentries*?
Because they're stupid.

It's like maxing out the sentry's firing speed in MvM when you don't need to and it runs out of ammo faster despite not killing more robots over time.

Automated turrets and shit need a limiter on the firing speed so that they can not waste ammo. AP rounds are great not just because they pierce every fucking thing, but also so that 3 blues side-strafing the turret don't cost 40% ammo.
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fun enough with just 2 people? I hate playing with randoms so I'm thinking about buying the game for someone
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>>149423343
Yes. I usually play in a duo, as long as you don't totally hate the person you're with you can generally enjoy yourselves.
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>>149416645
>Is silenced shotgun build a meme?
Yes, but it works surprisingly well.

>Does it work well with dodge?
Oh yes, very much so. I'm enjoying my meme build while looking AESTHETIC af. Adding 40+ dodge to an already disgusting 100+ armor under the effects of Frenzy feels so god damn wrong, but so incredibly satisfying.

>Is dodge even dw viable anymore?
Depends how conservative you are with cover. Nigga have I told you about Frenzy?
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>>149423343
It's okay and enough to have fun. You might have some troubles on the highest difficulty although that's another story.
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>>149426468
link to build?
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>>149388134
>RIP HECTOR 2013-2015
What happened to him?
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49th for safehouse customization hype
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>>149426771
he died
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>>149426740
Here it is from what I remember off the top of my head, should be a few points you can move around.

i.e. I only put a point in stable shot even though it's a shotgun build because I have extreme OCD when it comes to maintaining high numbers.

Not a very team (support) oriented build in the sense of providing deployables, but you can fight off an army of DW cops while acting half retarded.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mfr:eacDEFgIJkLr:gghijKLnOPr:fMOPr:ibcda:::
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>>149427150
Pretty sure you will you not be able to customize anything other than random trophy room
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>>149426771
he trusted the ICTV and Izhma 12G at the wrong moment.
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Never tried the community custom heists, are they good ? Pic related.
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>>149413495
M308 shits all over sniper rifles in DW.

>>149414735
DMR kits still get screwed on ammo pickup rate.
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>>149414735
Last thing you would want with DMR rifles is to use the auto-fire feature, especially with dlc dmr kits, so the little clip is fine.

The number one argument for the M308 that totally make the dlc pointless is the fully loaded aced skill. When you have to choose between a comfy ammo pick up or a shitty one, the choice is quickly made.
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Convinced 3 of my friends to get this with me.

Any mandatory DLC?
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>>149432503
dlc unlocker
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>>149428795
None of them are anything special, your pic related is literally just an edited version of Bank Heist with slightly more loot, one extra door you need to go through, and a gen sec truck in the parking lot. There are some recent ones that are completely unique, but they arent really that good compared to the vanilla heists (the fact that they exist however, excites me, because it means that modders are finding new ways to actually mod this game). They are still worth checking out in my opinion however, just to see for yourself what they're like, and just to change things up if they're just edited versions of normal heists.
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>>149433086
>trying to get vac banned
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>>149432503
Gage courier pack, everything else is skippable but that one gives you a lot of weapon mods.
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>doing overdrill with randoms
>host seems cool, prestige 25 n shit
>some asshole fucks up the floor puzzle
>host kicks him
>host stands around doing nothing while I'm trying to get the remaining bags in the truck
>host leaves
>literally didn't even get a couple million for an hours worth of work
>mfw
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>>149435047
>playing overdrill with pubbies,

Do you like to hurt yourself ?
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>>149435242
well I can't do it alone, and I have no friends

I just like shooting cops. But the fact that I got no reward after all that makes me upset.
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>you can now sell and buy FWB, Slaughter, Christmas and Goat safes

Holy shit
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>>149430221
>M308 shits over sniper rifles in DW
I also dislike being able to deal with the fucking retarded amount of specials on DW, especially shields.
>muh HE judge
000 Judge kills everything in one hit and so does the R93. The M308 will never gain shield piercing so will never replace SR's for me.
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>bunch of retards blowing up the lab after TWO bags
>"only white people can cook meth, you fucking apes"
>they stop picking up ingredients and let me do my fucking work
hallelujah
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>>149436231

HE Judge for shield plinking, one shots cloakers, two shots Tasers which the sniper rifles do anyways (except the cumbersome and no-ammo Thanatos). And a bigger mag and much faster to kill dozers and regular cops.
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>>149436231
>shitting on the HE judge
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>>149437121
>>149437230
My point was with Overkill or Frenzerker the R93 kills everything (not dozers) in one headshot anyway, so you don't need a HE Judge. The M308 may also be able to kill everything in one headshot but shields spawn by the half-dozen on DW and you can't pierce them, then you'd need a HE judge.
M308+HE Judge is as useful as R93/Nugget/Plat+000 Judge but I prefer the latter because I've used SRs almost exclusively since they came out.
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>>149433458
>vac
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if I get the gage courier pack, do all my friends get to get those mods too if I'm hosting?
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>>149439128
no.
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I own hotline miami 2 but dont have the HM2 heist, what the fuck
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>>149439457
XD
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>>149439517
???
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>>149435373
Steam ID?
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>only 4 secondary shotguns
>12 pistols that are basically clones of eachother
>no pepperbox or double barrel break action secondary shoguns

Also, wtb Calico-brand weapons, a Six12 standalone, Primary weapons that cover secondary and primary slots (IE, Primary is AMR-16, Secondary is it's underbarrel grenade launcher mod), situational weapons as throwables (IE, quick-draw a modified HE Judge and fire a round), and the ability to equip a melee weapon so I don't need to hold down E to charge my melee and strafe with D because it's uncomfortable and is keeping me from using Specialist Knifes over Breaded Axe.
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>trying to solo shadowraid DW
this was a mistake
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>>149442419
>Implying Shadow Raid isn't easier solo.
>Implying difficulty matters on stealth.
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>>149442419
Put thermite by the sewer entrance, burn through both bars down there, loot the warehouse. Easier than the yard and better loot.

>just tried that silenced shotgun anarchist suit meme build
Holy shit guys. This is pretty legit.
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>>149442419
m8, I carry armor out solo.
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>>149442730
>>149442795
>>149443445
fuck you all
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>>149427392
Your build is very bad because you don't have inspire. This build with anarchist will give you 15 dodge, frenzy and a lot of armor. You also regenerate 10 armor when you damage something every 1.5 sec and if you headshot you get 25 armor every 2 secs. You'll also have inspire and doctor bags, which is good for team orientation. You'll also need to get a primary shotgun that is concealable and the judge with he rounds. The he rounds will kill shields easily. You'll need 3 or 4 in concealment. Alternatively, you could aim for 7 concealment but then you'll miss 1 precent of dodge and 3 precent to crit.


http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACEf:eaDEFIJkl:ggJKLnpr:fMOPr:ibcdea::w40-3-12:s49-2-10:a1
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>>149443503
>Customhud shitter.
>Can't even stealth Shadow Raid solo
Figures.
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After 37 tries, and forgetting to use preplanning, I finally did it
I'm never touching this fucking heist ever again
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>>149443746
but its literally the easiest shit though
its entry level stealth really
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Does shock and awe basic work with anarchist?
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What's a good mission to do for leveling? 31 here and I just want more skill points

Been spamming Ukranian job in stealth solo
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>>149443746
>shadow raid,

Some of you guys are alright , don't stealth Big bank tomorrow
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>>149446227
God help that shitter stealthing big bank if he thought Shadow Raid is hard.
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>>149446224
Hoxton Breakout, Aftercuck, Bomb:dockyard: all on Overkill if pro version is not possible.
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>>149433458
payday doesn't have vac
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>>149442419
>trying to solo Beneath the Mountain DW

THIS was a mistake
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>>149448373
>Ceiling turret blocks your progress.
>Cops start pushing hard from the other side.
>Bots wander into the path of the turret and get destroyed.
>3 Cloakers are moving in on you.
This game needs an option to quickly kill yourself like GTAO has.
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>all drill perks
>still takes 3 minutes to drill TITAN safes

:/
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>can trade weapon skins
>can't trade mask material

fffffuuuuuck
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>>149449134
>can't open titan safes with the lockpick expert skill

Come on Overkill, Big Oil day one stealth is just boring as fuck.

inb4 suck it
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>>149448881
>solo
>3 cloakers
looks like you made the mistake of playing with bots friend
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>>149450813
Doesn't goonmod have that feature where you can exchange mask material or weapon mods with other players ?
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>play first game,
>use the glass cutter on Diamond heist,
>police assault is insta-launched but the security is not alerted or any cops entering the area until i break the stealth,

Was overkill rusing us or just a bug ?
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>>149443503
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>>149440878
sorry anon i went to sleep
if you're still here or if anyone else wants to add:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/ichbrauchnenarzt/
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>>149442419
But it's so comfy
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can never do a stealth mission senpaitachi, im just the loud type
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>>149454421
You sure the assault was going on? Maybe some guy was just spamming the sound board to mess with you.
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how the fuck do you do cook off solo
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Why? Why Syka in PayDay 2 are Russian, but BF1 not? Swedish developers ohueli?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lka5QLTvraQ
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>>149457472
Patiently.
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Which ones looks less retarded out of the bunch?
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>>149458397
Top left or bottom right
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>>149458397
forgot
explosive, gun metal, cosmoline
jade, oily metal, hatred
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>>149458397
Full color yellow.
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>>149458397
Those are bearly an improvement from the default. Why bother?
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>>149459837
Because I'm kinda bored with my main mask
I'm looking for some other masks to break the monotony
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HEY YOU GET ON YOUR FEET
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>guards on framing frame day 1 respawn infinitely
Ok
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>>149466267
>Using Silent Killer.
The backup unit has to do his full patrol and leave. Then he shouldn't respawn. Stop trying to kill him.
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>>149466556
I have 11 body bags in the bathroom stall and 4 dead guards lying around the gallery, and there's still 2 guards doing the rounds
there's no backup unit, those fuckers just spawn inside the gallery, middle of it even
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>>149466841
Oh. Well, Overkill quality then.
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>>149466556
The backup message comes up 30 seconds after you've killed the fourth guard, regardless of it being patrol or stationary
Dunno if they just leave after their round, gonna find out soon
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>>149467996
while waiting for this, I heard a guard on the roof go "the roof is a-ok, i repeat the roof is 10-26"

isn't 10-26 the code for "suspect under arrest"?
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746th for soundtrack update when
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>>149455643
>Bernd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ltkyqfMjCg
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>>149467996
>>149466556
I think the FF Day 1 guy does periodically come back, same for the ED Day 2 backup guard. Never saw Day 3's backup come back though.
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>>149466841
>>149467030
There is no mechanic in the game (or bug) that respawns guards infinitely.

It's probably part of the mod that lets you answer 11 pagers to begin with to offset the fact that you are playing in ez mode.
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>>149473340
no, it seems they respawn only during their backup timer, if you kill any of them during that time they'll spawn another guard to replace the one that was killed
If you just wait them out, they'll disappear after a while
The backup squad is the only one you can hear clearly chatting through radio
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>>149473939
I'm talking about vanilla FF Day 1, without cheats.

Backup guy on FF Day 1 will wander around, keep talking into the radio, then walk off, then come back a few minutes later or something.

Backup guy on FF Day 3 will just never return after he finally leaves.
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>>149474158
Backup guys will show up outside and on the roof, 4 in total, 2 will eventually end up inside while 2 will stay out
then after a while, about 10 minutes in, they will all collectively fuck off, except one guy that will keep marching inside the gallery, making the total of 7 bodies (4 roaming, 1 at the desk, 1 at cameras and the backup)
This seems consistent in 3 restarts
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>>149473340
>I think the FF Day 1 guy does periodically come back, same for the ED Day 2 backup guard. Never saw Day 3's backup come back though.

No, they don't. Won't stop them from taking 15 minutes to chill around the whole map, forcing you to just stay afk the whole time.

10/10 feature Ovk
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>>149474686
100% sure the ED Day 2 guy walks back into the map. Only 90% on FF Day 1. I honestly don't know if >>149474606 is just bullshitting me or something or just can't stop talking about Silent Shitter mod behaviour when we're explicitly not talking about it.
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132th for best oldest heister
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>>149476159
That's not Clover.
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best heister coming through
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>>149476363
She looks absolutely disgusting in that pic.
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>>149477316
She's a murderer, not a model.
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>>149477738
That's exactly what they were saying when she was released.
Anyway I ment just in that picture, otherwise she doesn't look that bad.
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>>149478782
Fair, the only other picture i could find of her is tiny, and already posted.
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>>149477316
>Clover
>Looking disgusting
No shit. The only people that like her are the ones uglier than she is.
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Does a 7 day heist exist?
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>>149389431
Never
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>>149485230
"Knock Knox"

Week long heist in planning for taking on Fort Knox, requiring the help of all the contractors
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Hey lads, I'd like to return to the game, but I absolutely despise all the additional characters.
Is there a way to ensure I will never, ever see or hear any of those pieces of shit?
For me the game was always about The Payday Crew, so some fucking out of place garbage like Jacket or Wick or whatever the fuck they've added makes me just quit.

bls resbond
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>>149488910
Get the mod that disables AI from randoming the characters and play with people that dont have shit taste.

t. Dallas main since first game
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>>149489013
>tfw Hoxton main in 1st game and got fucked over in 2 twice
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>>149489152
SUMONE RATTED
SUMONE FOOKED MEH
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>>149488910
>emily blunt will NEVER step on your balls
just die in my sleep already
( ._.) ( ;_;)
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>>149489013
Well I googled quickly and it seems to be a simple LUA script. Gonna have to try it out.
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>>149489013
>Dallas main since first game

My nigger.

Original crew best crew
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>>149488910
Most of the additional people are cool guys though.

I can't help my love of Dragan and he's a pretty fitting addition imo.
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>>149490925
Well I suppose it is a matter of opinion. But to me Payday was always about a the tight knit original crew doing daring Heat like heists with ballistic masks and sensible weapons.

Some people like playing as Jacket or whatever wearing top hats and beards and using a minigun and a sword, that just isnt what I'm looking for in Payday.
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I want to cuddle Dallas
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>>149491307
Catposter, wanna team up and rob some banks?
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>>149491401
Who doesn't?
Being cuddled is totally an option.
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>>149491850
I currently have the game uninstalled due to the direction the game went around Hypetrain in 2014. I just decided to check here about disabling the characters so I could see if I should even bother reinstalling.
Mostly playing Vermintide these days to quench my co-op thirst. Even though the updates seem to come at a slails pace they at least havent gone full retard the same way Overkill and Tripware have.

So I'd love to, but I'm really not sure when I'll be booting PD2 up, if ever.
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don't mind me, best heister coming through again
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>>149492725
>anyone outside the original crew
>best
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>>149492825
>f2p
>best
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>>149492635
Come on, it's gonna be fun
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>>149492725
I have to admit Ron Perlman is probably my favorite additional just purely at face value, he's a cool dude, he's got a cool voice, it doesn't hurt that he also comes with an amazing shotgun.
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>>149492725
rust is best girl <3
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>>149495492
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Hoxhud
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>>149489152
>sexy Hoxton from first game never
JUST THE VOICE IS NOT THE SAME FUCK YOU
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>>149426771
Hoxtons revenge happend to him
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>>149492635
>Vermintide
>not dead
Why come to an anonymous Chinese imageboard just to lie?
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why do people with shit computers insist on hosting? do they not realize it breaks the game? I swear every other heist i join half the cops are standing still
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>>149497284
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>>149503915
Shame really, they did a lot of good with the revised loot system and the crafting/reroll stuff in that one... :<

Oh well, there'll always be heisting.
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DO IT FOR CANADAAAAAAAAAAA

RRRRAAAAASHHHHHHH
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I know that Goonmod can remove the corpse limit, but how do I remove the decal (e.g. blood splatters and bullet holes) limit?
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>>149510778
pretty sure there's a mod for that on this list
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

I don't really feel like checking though
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