EVE ONLINE General /eog/

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>Hek

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>amarr______________________

Can you just go in Incursions like that, participate and make money or do you really need to join one of the autistic corps that considers a 3 bil fit a "newbro starter fit"?

>>149350387
1b fits are allright.

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>>149350387
WTM is the easiest to get into, probably the worst in terms of isk/h, depends on the group.

you can literally fly a dominix there

>>149350480
Feel free to send a bil to my two weeks old char, I'll be sure to make good use of it.

>>149350532
the effort to do those sites vs. the isk you make is ridiculously good. just fucking deal with it that you yet can't, fgt.

go mine or some shit in the meantime.

>>149350532
Two weeks old char and you want to do incursion ? Wait for one month at least and join a open group, there are plenty of them

>>149350532
Your week old char doesn't even have skills to fly the ships. Shut the fuck up and stop complaining.

>undock my orca at jita
>an ibis bumps me to prevent me from warping to my instawarp undock bookmark
>lights up a cyno
>1 cloaked titan jumps in, uncloaks then doomsdays my orca
>another cloaked titan jumps in, uncloaks, doomsdays my capsule
>socket closes

What a shit game.

>>149350713
Sometimes they even use bubbles in front of the station

>>149350871
Proofs?

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>>149350936

Has the csm ever done something or do their members just lobby for the vested interests of their respective corps/alliances?

>>149350582
>>149350584
>>149350645
gr8, so I'll what, mine for a month before I can have fun?
Sounds like a great game.

>>149351793
Then yes, it's not a game for you, you should leave it asap, it exists a lot of games that will be better than this one don't worry

>>149351283
politicians represent the people who vote for them
why would you expect anything but this

anyone else deleting Eve to make space for the next big thing: No Man's Sky?

It's called No Man's Sky because a week after release nobody is going to be playing what is basically minecraft in space WITHOUT the crafting.

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>>149351793
Just do missions until then m89

But the others are right in that this game won't ever spoonfeed [FUN] into your brain, you have to work for it.

>you have to work for fun

games are supposed to be about escapism, not a fucking job. it's like you want Eve to die or something.

>work for fun
>by skilling up offline for a month before you can do things

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>>149291267
>>149292169
ait thanks guys
What about Citadels, are they supposed to be like inbetween POS and outposts? Are they a good addition to the game?

>>149354454
There have never been good additions to Eve.

>>149354418
>>149354383
Having the brain capacity of an insect doesn't really help to facilitate a "fun" enviroment in this game.

>mfw when people think in order to make a game "hardcore" it needs to be chokeful of tediousness a la Eve.

bad game designing. if there was ever an award category for this shit Eve would fucking take the cake 10/10

>>149354776
While i totally agree with this, there is also a certain charm to it. I just play other games when i want quality game design, have long since stopped expecting it from CCP. Just read some of the Glassdoor reviews of CCP, there's some horrifying shit there.

>>149354454
no, they're an eventual replacement for POSs and Outposts, along with other new structures yet to be released (gib industry array already ccp)
I like Citadels in wormhole space, they're a godsend for safe ship storage but I think they fail to capture the magic of outposts. It would be nice if there were different designs, it has long been my dream to build my own minmatar service outpost just because it looks damn cool.
None of the citadels are as cool as the minmatar outpost.

I also worry about what will happen to finding unfueled dead towers with shit around them - a gameplay option that long excited me (and I did once, got a free domi) is now gone, with citadels not requiring fuel for basic operation and having safe loot evac (no drops) in k-space

I get that CCP want people to use them over outposts, but they're replacing POSes too, and having the already quite bad outpost mechanics (really wish they blew up with loot drop instead of just flipping to the new owner) replaced with your shit no longer even being locked into an outpost you can't get to.

I do like that CCP seem to be making up for the shitfest that is entosis sov, with now kind of bringing back the Dominion-style hp bash but with a dps cap for what is going to be one of the most important aspects of sovereignity.

Hey, maybe it'll make me actually want to play in null again, that can't be bad.

Join All-Out

dead

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>>149355669
good post
thanks

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>/eog/
>good post

>posts dog
>criticizes the quality of the posts of others

>>149355669
>I do like that CCP seem to be making up for the shitfest that is entosis sov, with now kind of bringing back the Dominion-style hp bash but with a dps cap for what is going to be one of the most important aspects of sovereignity.

kys capbabby

>>149338649
Is it possible to only do [burners] or they appear randomly ?
yes, they appear randomly
yes, you can do mostly burners
you decline any non-burner missions that you pull as long as the standings hit that you will take won't stop you from pulling missions from that agent. usually you run a normal l4 or two to get your standings up every few burner missions. because the missions are random and you get standings boosts from burners, you could coast a long time without doing any normal ones.

>>149354776
Most game designers opinion of "good" game design can be tracked in the developement of League of Legends. The game used to be a fun team based game that lasted 45-50 minutes with champions that felt unique and specific items that changed how the characters engaged eachother.

Then "mobility" was "fun" so every champion has blinks.

Then zoning was "unfun" so its pretty much impossible to pressure/control a lane.

Then jungling should be more "unpredictable" because ganking was "stagnant" because junglers and laners understood ruotes/timers.

Then games had to be shorter because long games aren't "fun"

Then teamfights were "fun" so they shortened the laning phase, made monsters give buffs EVERYWHERE, made towers weaker, made builds faster to get, made mobility more common/mandetory in order to be at constant fights.

Then every champion ability/item needed constant counterplay because whenever anyone had an advantage ever it was "unfair" so they changed abilities constantly so everythings a skillshot and has 20 circumstantial/conditional effects that have to be played around.

All of this results in what was once a clean game, where you could literally watch/play a match and look at exactly what went wrong and how to do better next time, because there was

>jungler defense
>the laning phase 20~35 mins
>3-4 dragons
>1-2 barrons
>game end 45-50 mins

every game you could see the game play out before it was over, because the game was well crafted, logical, it progressed in steps that made sense.

But in an effort to appease a sense of "fun", and allowing the player to constantly feel in control they increased the activity/variability of scenarios so much you can have games where your team plays horribly and wins and no one knows why. It feels arbitrary and random as fuck. They also removed most of the planning/build up by shortening the game so much.

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>league of legends

Sister of Eve ships are supposed to be explo/WH ships, right ? Their bonuses, the video trailer, etc but :
Astero is a good ship, nothing to say
Nestor, from what I've heard/seen, is a good ship too, mainly in fleet
So why the Stratios is a shit ship ? It has only a good looking, useless in data/relic because there is no rats, slow warp, slow, can't tank C3, can't use 5 heavy drones/sentries
( I'm not talking about pvp )

>the video trailer

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>Most game designers opinion of "good" game design can be tracked in the developement of League of Legends

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>>149363871
>this entire post

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>>149363871
what >>149364187 said honestly
a correctly tanked stratios is THE ship to use for covert data sites. it can also do high deds.

but actually don't use a stratios for pve ffs

also you can't just discard a whole section of use cases and then say something is shit

>mfw i ate bait

>be new player
>mfw fell for the mining and resource gathering meme
is this mechanic like broken or do they legit think this is good and fun?

>>149364558
Wasnt a bait, I want a stratios (because look) but there are cruisers ship that can do a better jobs for few more isk

>>149361378
but I don't fly caps, anon

>be new player
>get doomsdayed
no wonder this shit game is dying
should have died a long time ago desu

>>149364558
I'm surprised at how he thinks the astero is a great ship, when really it's a questionable piece of shit - it's mostly just an expensive covops for people who for some reason have isk but not sp. the only cool thing it can do that covops can't is ghost sites and sleeper caches, but I'm pretty sure 99% of people don't know about these

and the nestor, why would anyone think this is good, did they fall for the remote rep meme or what

>>149364037
If the "good"/"humane"/"competative" game designers had their way EVE would have.

>A freely respecable talent tree instead of skills.
>All the ships would be like t3d with 3 modes each
>Each ship would have its own talent tree under the guise of extreme customizability but in reality every ship would have the same talents and it would offer far less variety than fitting ships. Also each talent would be something like a 1% increase to missile damage, or 1% agility because they would be so scared of players specing wrong they would keep the variance as minimal as possible.
>there would be only 7 ships for each main faction and 1 ship for each pirate faction.
>ammo would be a refillable energy bar.
>There would be hard locked minimum and maximum prices for items on the market to prevent malicious manipulations.
>Scamming would be bannable.
>There would be instanced PvP arenas/anoms that you have to queue for.
>There would be instanced group missions.
>Instead of player owned nullsec space every region of space would be controlled by an NPC Alliance and your player corporations would join an NPC alliance.
>You would donate ore/exploration loot/drops(tags) for NPC rep.
>Ships would have modules that work kind of like subsystems ranging from green to orange in rarity.
>You would use NPC rep to buy these modules/subsystems. They would also be random rewards for finishing instances.
>Large scale PvP would be a zone that happened every 4 hours and it would be a "faction fight" where players from difference NPC alliances swarm to a spot to blob warfare without any sort of coordination.
>manual ship control with cooldown based abilities.
>free to play with ship skins/reputation boosts

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>Xe thinks eve isn't going to be F2P soon

>>149364862
tfw i wrote up an autism wall and then looked at it and realized i didn't even want to start
stratios-chan isn't shit, let's leave it at that

>>149364775
reyni pls go

>>149364775
Its not supposed to be fun. Its supposed to be enjoyable for players that like gathering stuff and using it/selling it to other players. Those players don't care about whether an activity is fun or not, in fact most of them prefer it to be unfun because it makes what they like doing matter more. It makes them more valuable as players because they can enjoy doing stuff most players find unfun. They also would get absolutely no pleasure from it being a more fun activity. If it was fun it would make them have one less place to fit in the game.

t. Miner.

>>149365496
>be unfun because it makes what they like doing matter more. It makes them more valuable

dead game in a nutshell

>>149365616
>non sequitur

>>149365616
The same could be said of lots of popular games. WoW and most MMOs like it have generally unfun healers yet people play them "Because no one will" or "Because I like being useful." Likewise people complain about having to play support in games like Overwatch or MOBAs, but there are people that actually enjoy them.

>>149355669
Isn't All-Out full of memers? I'm thinking about joining but how active is the corp?

>>149365727
>ad hominem

>>149365837
There are no memes in organic comms
memes are only in /eog/ and the /v/bros channel

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>WoW
>MOBA
>Overwatch

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>>149365837
http://eve-hunt.net/hunt/all-out
last kill a couple hours ago
~200 kills last month
can confirm there are memes

>>149365616
Not everyone is like you.

There is literally no reason to throw out a portion of the playerbase because you think one profession is unfun. Small gang roaming is my least favorite activity in the game but I'm not calling for it being changed or removed. Especially for a game as large as this with the concept of a true sandbox world it would be failing in its design if you thought everything was fun. That means they are missing legitimate playstyles in their design.

threadly reminder to vote for eve until jul 30
http://www.game-debate.com/news/20874/up-for-debate-battle-of-the-space-sims-elite-dangerous-v-star-citizen-v-eve-online
knowing you guys i fully expect the star citizen graph to skyrocket

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>star citizen
>elite dangerous

>>149367310
why the fuck should I vote for Eve when it is a self-admitedly shit game for which the only reason people still endure it is because of randoms in a TS server they get to talk to?

like fuck outta here you bum-ass nigga with your shitty fanboyism

>>149367646
fuck outta this eve-related thread with your 2cool4school attitude

>>149367646
But EVE is great, it might not be the funnest game, but its undeniably great in its scale and the purity of its execution. EVE has never tried to be anything but EVE and that makes it an absolutely phenomenal MMO achievement.

If you don't like playing it you can just play a different game. EVE is like Dorf Fortress, its not for everyone.

>>149367310
Elite is so shit.

If the players do something the devs don't like, they always undo it or Nerf it or patch it out or ban people. See: infiltrating carebear groups to hunt them down, the recent interference of pirate groups in the story being overridden

>>149367310
star citizen isnt even out, kek

>>149368561
Tell me more about these two things.

tfw >feel when no more multiboxing on twitch
>tfw you cant even tfw correctly now

>that one guy that streams mining 24/7

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>>149367646
>people still endure it is because of randoms in a TS server they get to talk to
What

>>149371089
Good odds you're talking to an autist who is so shy and antisocial he hates people asking him to come on comms and rationalizes it as others only playing because they're social.

>>149371387
>game relies no third party voip to be usable
>I-it's n-not the game's f-fault

remind me again what the pop of eve was at its peak and what it is now?

See this is exactly what I'm talking about, he's so autistic that he demonizes anyone who uses teamspeak and goes on sperg rants in every thread about it.

>>149369704
Because elite isn't a true mmo people can only see each other if they have the right settings for it. If you join a group (similar to Corp/alliance) then you see everyone in the group regardless of multi-player settings. CODE figured out these carebear groups have no recruitment standards and let anyone in. Cue them infiltrating the group and performing good old fashioned awoxes which riled up the entire community and got le dank upvotes on reddit. Players in code then got banned.

Since elite is just a game about moving cargo, they set "community goals" to advance the story. Recently, this goal was to move power units or some shit to a really remote station doing alien artifact research. A piracy group set up nearby and started annihilating any haulers bringing cargo in. This set the system to lockdown, preventing the progress of the goal as cargobabs couldn't sell the required item to the station that needed them. Debs intervened and disabled system lockdown, warned the players, etc

>>149371630
TS is for fleets. You don't have to be on comms 24/7 and "chat"

>CODE

stopped reading there

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>>149371862
that's fucking hilarious

>>149371954
Not the same code.

>>149371862
didnt they disable market speculation shit too because it was "griefing"

>>149367310
>SC
>33
Suuuure.

>>149371862
>blew up haulers
Why didn't the haulers just play solo? Doesn't it still matter if you play solo instead of multi?

>>149372475
wot
How was it even possible to speculate anything? I thought everything was fixed? As in, the agriculture station always bought waste at this price and all the others always sold at this price?

>wot

being able to THINK is griefing, essentially. as long as you can think better than the next guy, you are griefing them.

im sarcastic and serious at the same time, since this is really only true under capitalism.

you guys are in the wrong side of gaming history and it's time you cheeto-encrusted autist come to terms with it. Eve is toxic, and Elite is the space game of the future. I have numbers and statistics proving my point, Elite keeps growing and eve is going down down down

gevlon actually has a good deal of stuff to say about this sort of thing, esp now that he's able to compare the fixed markets in BDO to the more capitalistic markets of Eve. He's hungarian iirc and so draws parallels to socialism in europe and the consequences of trying to make everyone able to compete regardless of how moronic they are

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>socialism is bad meme

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>its the Elite faggot again
AHAHHAHAA

>>149367646
>the only reason people still endure it is because of randoms in a TS server they get to talk to?


Really makes you think, uh?

But 100% wrong, the majority of people playing EvE have a balanced life. Even those in autistic corps.

You seem to be one of the autist that wants to keep everything super formal and want to mute anyone who acts a bit goofy on coms.

>that feel when all you want to do is turn on some relaxing music and rat asteroids to pass the time
>i dont want to do anything else

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>>149373529
>But 100% wrong, the majority of people playing EvE have a balanced life. Even those in autistic corps.

Star Citizen > No Man's Sky > Elite:Dangerous > EVE Online

>>>/v/345997335

do nullsec exploration sites show up in C4+ wormholes, or just C1-3?

>>149374571
1-3, C4+ are nofun tier

>>149374571
Just C1-C3

>>149374025
>>149373889
>>149372992
Fuck off, shill. Not EVE related.

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That face when you fell for the unsecured site meme

>>149375016
Fuck off to /tv/

>>149373131
Say what you want about Gevlon, his political pieces were shit, but his economic analysis were always interesting to read. I think eve is less without him playing.

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>>149375087
Someone get this hothead outta here

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>leading fleet trying to catch some lowsec shitters
>running tackle, while the fleet holds a jump out
>"Okay, landing, get ready to warp to me at ten"
>someone's mic starts activating
>he's breathing heavily
>"C-c-can you say that again?"
>"What?"
>two other ones speak up, each breathing as heavily and exasperated as the first
>"C-c-come on! J-just say it again!"
>land and tackle
>"Jump and warp to me at ten, now"
>nobody jumps
Why are spaceneets so thristy?

>>149376614
What corp?
What alliance?

>>149376614
Are you a cute guy?

so is there a consensus on the best and worst factions for relic sites?

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>EVE ONLINE
>Arty Vagabond
>49.9km Curse
>Beams Cynabal
>Scorch
>dog
>small pulse tornado
>omen
>dual painter bellicose

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>>149379174
Sansha are the best, I think.

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>not omen

>>149376614
Why don't you just repeat it by default? It's better than having everyone going WHAAT PLS REPEAT FC I DIDNT HEAR. Retards aren't able to pay attention in this game.

JADEN GO HOME

>>149379174
everyone memes about intact armor plates, which I think come from sansha and blood raider

but capacitor consoles and enhanced ward consoles are nice too and they probably aren't from sansha/blood. just stick to wh c1-3 space and do all the relic sites you find

>>149382031
Intact armor plates are the crux of armor rigs. Every single T2 armor rig relies on Intact Armor plates where in T2 shield rigs, they all have different requirements so none of the supply interferes with one another. This is why Anti-explosive pumps are so much more expensive than Anti-EM screen reinforcers

>its another thread where some ED retard spews some dumb shit about how a free and open market is cheating and unfair because he thinks that people buy everything up in eve and sell it for a ridiculous price.

>>149383060
that's cool and all, but the prices aren't ridiculously higher than other things to the point that other things aren't worth the time

>>149383276
remind me again which game has lost 60% of it's total online players in the past month?

Hint: It's not ED

>>149383383
>the prices aren't ridiculously higher

T2 medium Anti-EM shield rig - 4m in jita

T2 medium anti-explosive armor rig - 17m in jita

>>149383486
you don't get rigs from relic sites

>>149383476
>60% in the last month
not EVE either dip shit

>>149383476
[citation needed]

>>149383628
game once constantly had 60k people online

>28k online now
>not eve either hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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>mfw eve loses 100% of its players every day at downtime

>>149383601
You get the parts required for rigs from relic sites.

>>149383850
yes

>>149383787
EVE didn't have 60k online a month ago
>28k online now
on the client screen right now, early afternoon for EST

How long till neutral appear when I open up a cyno ?

>>149384003
You are right, that was years ago that Eve had 60k constantly. That's how bad it has been doing K.E.K.

>>149384032
depends on where you're lighting the cyno

>>149384086
you literally said "in the past month" which was never true

>>149384149
>grasping at straws
>huuurr you said month ago when in reality eve reached its peak years ago and it has been a nosedive after that

>>149383476
pokemon go?

>>149384321
I'm not grasping at straws, I'm literally quoting you.

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>>149384321
i'm concerned for your health anon

>>149384370
see
>>149384086

>still grasping at straws

>>149384534
You shifted the goal posts because you were wrong

>eve had 60k a month ago
>no it didn't
>YEA WELL IT DID YEARS AGO
>thats not what you said before
>stop grasping at straws lel

nice defending your garbage theme-park mmo with nothing "good" about yours while attempting to (poorly) shit on EVE

Enjoy your stagnant socialist economy, enjoy no player generated content

enjoy your WoW in space

>>149384740
WoW in space a least has FUN content

What the fuck does eve have LMOA!!!!

>le waiting for alliance ping so i cna log in and blob a carebear with le f1 faec

once again, there is only one game here that used to have constant 60k players online and has reduced to 20k average xDDD

>>149385147
congrats for sticking up for being spoonfed content because you're such a shitter all you do is wait for pings instead of going out and doing real shit. Congrats for sticking up for a price fixed economy you can't participate in.

>>149385231
it's gotten to where it takes me a second to decide if the face is right side up or not on this

>>149385637
>going out and doing real shit

damn dude, yeah, that 2 hours roaming empty space to catch a t1 cruiser on gate is so real shit

>>149385841
keep making up shit because it sounds like you don't play the game at all.

You're a spoon fed crybaby who doesn't have the capacity to feed himself and go looking for it.

>>149385902
nice ad hominem

>>149385841
>its another "I wait for pings all the time and thats what EVE must be about and it couldn't possibly be my fault and I couldn't be bothered to take initiative over my content" replies

>>149386015
Thats what you genuinely are. You're looking for someone else to spoon feed you content with an alliance wide ping "hey guys come on this fleet" because you personally couldn't be bothered to do it yourself or see what you can do to get yourself content. Instead you sit there, blame the game and don't even have any self reflection to that you'd rather play a game like ED that hand holds you though everything.

EVE is a hardcore game purely because it doesn't hold your hand through everything.

go back to lol faggot

>>149386057
>it's another 'I can't prove him wrong so imma just meme my way out of this"

>>149386291
Theres no proving your non-arguments anything because all you have is dumb memes that people spew when they either haven't played the game or they let the game play them.

Are you a content creator or are you bottom feeder? because everything you said is evidence of the latter

>>149386226
>EVE is a hardcore game purely because it doesn't hold your hand through everything.

>unironically believing this meme in TYOOL

>>149386448
>I don't have a rebuttal so I'll just call it a "meme"

S t o p r e p l y i n g

>>149386529
Eve doesn't hold your hand because there is shit to hold your hand through LMAO!!!

BUFFER
OVER
TIME

opportunity cost

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>ancillary armour reps are passive modules

>>149386623
>if I close my eyes it doesn't exist

>>149387062
don't you have some shit to entosis?

E M E R G E N T G A M E P L A Y

LMBO

>>149387181
>all those fights over sov don't count as content because I said so

S t o p r e p l y i n g

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x hard tackle

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>52%

>"""""""""""""small""""""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""gang""""""""""""""""""""

>>149387242
WWB is over and it was stale af

everyne in eve pretends to love the game and to love pvp. One side of a war didn't even fucking bother playing/fighting LMAO

thank you for proving my point

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>tfw your eve waifu changes her portrait and it doesnt look good

why ;__;

hey guys new player here, I am in love with the venture but people hate on me for wanting to mine. what should I do?

>>149389452
pvp venture

>>149389452
you should huff gas http://wiki.whitestagexitbag.org/doku.php/public/guides/wormhole-gas

>>149389665
thanks dude

>>149389881
Don't just find a wormhole in HS leading you to W-space, though. There'll be people camping. Go at least one or two wormholes deep and do check it isn't connected to HS.

>>149389452
Join All-Out

>>149390909
This, they are a nice WH corp, i'm sure they won't mine if you mine in and around there hole.

Lots of different alliances got outplayed by a bunch of provi amateurs:
https://zkillboard.com/related/30003709/201607232000/

>>149391550

that was a spectre vs provi fight that went sideways when snuff brought T3's and got wrecked when spectre and provi teamed up against them.

and then spectre headshot the provi FC and took out a lot more nightmares than they would have otherwise in the chaos as the nightmares tried to get out.

>>149389665
>wormhole gas
>not normal space gas

for doing w-space explo should i go as deep as i can first or just start grabbing everything

>>149393983
Are combat boosters worth making?

>>149394501
no idea m8, I don't hear anything about it. combat boosters are newly legal in highsec, so they might be way up in volume traded

>>149383476
The joke here is that ED doesn't have players to begin with! LOL!!

join

goonswarm federation

Armor cruisers are better with 800mm plates but most of the retards in this game go all out and fit 1600mm, fucking up their speed, agility and range dictation.

>>149398831
add a MAAR and you should be golden, in fact that's pretty much the standard kiting set up these days.

>>149398831
it's the rigs that make you go slow

on a bunch of them, 800 plate with 3 armour rigs is slower and worse tank than 1600 plate with 2 ancil rigs and 1 armor

>>149399783
>on a bunch of them, 800 plate with 3 armour rigs is slower and worse tank than 1600 plate with 2 ancil rigs and 1 armor

nice meam

>>149398831
800mm's don't give you shit for tank

1600mm's barely affect speed, its their agility that is most affected.

also never fit plates when you're attempting to kite at all ever. Trimarks literally shooting yourself in the foot

>>149400763
check the numbers yourself m8

>>149401483
>800mm's don't give you shit for tank

800 mm plus an ancil repper does tho since it's pretty much some buffer over time

>>149401906
thats dumb, you'll get more tank with a 1600mm or an ancil with a medium rep

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>dual rep

>it's the plate rep autist again

>>149402930
I'm the plate rep autist, that guy is just pretending to be me

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>not dual rep + the new high grade set

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>implants

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>dual rep, implants,standard armor rep drug

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>Plate+rep
>no pg left for weapons
>Die
>32 nanite paste still in the MAAR because no cap.

but the omen is an amarr ship, it has a larger capacitor than other cruisers

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>speis memes

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10

tfw no petite, flat-chested waifu with a waist the diameter of your wrist.

I want to kill myself.

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>>149410998

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we need dogs, is the only way

What corps are the posters of this general in?

Would be nice to play with some of you guys. I know "all out" is one, but any others?

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>>149412986

>>149413119
>Which corps should I wardec?

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>>149413119
that's all-out, not all out, friend

>>149413119

Goons, Marmite, and TEST post in here fairly often.

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>>149413883

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>>149413156
>>149414407

>>149413837
is that steelratty

What's a good way to raise your standing with a certain faction without lowering it with their rival factions? I've been trying to increase my Caldari standing by doing security missions for them but doing them has been decreasing my Gallente standing, which I'd like to avoid if possible. None of the standing guides/wiki pages I've read on the subject mentioned it.

>>149417565
Hauling missions

>missions

I want to send people literal shit via ingame messenger

>>149419108

Copypasta together some random snippets of MLP fanfics, republican propaganda and /b/.

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I remember when I was really new to eve, used to do missions.

Now looking back I feel like I wasted my time and that I will never get it back.

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>>149420287
doesnt matter how much time you wasted, cause your life, just like mine, is already a waste.

>>149420287
welcome to Eve. Quit while you have some self-awareness.

>>149420287
i've never done missions and i feel like im missing out on some core experience that most players had

>>149420287
you will never get back the time you spent reading this post stop being such a bitch

>>149425217
yeah the core experience of doing some lame-ass shit over and over again and realizing that (and this is no fucking joke) WoW has more value per month than Eve and its "player" made content

which is just a way of devs to be lazy fucks and let players make a narrative.

How do you make your money, dog?

I run wormhole PI on 4 characters, maintain one skill farm character, and run wormhole anoms every now and then.

>>149426605
My sub is still active but it's been like 3 weeks since I've played and I am honestly thinking of unsubbing. normally I made my isk doing gas harvesting and PI.

>>149426605

I trade and do industry. Thought I'm mostly starting to lie back on just my industry since stuff in my life isn't letting me play as much as I used to. I feel like I'm the only person that has fun in this general anymore.

>>149426605
exploration

i want to get into PI but im too lazy

is PI = passive ISK?

>>149427042

Do incursions f a m

>>149431203
planetary interaction, which coincidentally is a form of Passive Isk.

>>149431203
It's autistic isk

>>149431203
not completely passive no, the longest time you can go without touching it is 2 weeks, and the income is crap if you do that

but you can manage your planets anywhere in the universe no matter where you are so no excuses

but you also need to go pick up the crap you collected/made every so often to sell it to make any money

comms

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Rate

>>149433492
how'd you get that?

>>149433492
not enough points in drones, shield, navigation or spaceship command desu senpai

>>149433598
evemon, under the Tools tab

>>149433492
dictor/scout alt?

>>149434035
>>149433919
I am only 4 months old

>>149434153
oh actually that looks pretty good
i was getting engineering mixed up with science, which is why i thought dictor
but that looks like a good strong start with the core skills prioritized, scanning for money, and just about ready for a per/will map for ships and weapons (if you don't want to work on drones a little more first).

i'm also trying to think if i know anyone who started 4 months ago

>>149434153
that's not bad at all then senpai but for the sake of shitposting

>he cant fly a titan

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>>149434471
>i'm also trying to think if i know anyone who started 4 months ago

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tfw literal months before my orca pilot will be a good rorqual pilot.

>orca pilot
enjoy getting doomsdayed

>>149435113
You can't doomsday something when its in a PoS you fucking nerd ass dweeb.

>>149435037
Scion is dead
long live Toyota

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>>149435224
>t. Old Spice

>>149406054
It actually doesnt

The thorax has the same cap recharge rate and extremely similar capacity amounts.

f

rip

>>149417565
If you haven't done it yet, the Sisters of Eve arc lets you call a faction to help in one of the last missions, you'll get a huge standing increase with them at the end of the arc.

>>149426605
I scam sigs for Signal Cartel and do null sec exploration.

>>149441369
scan*

>>149426605
I hate that you basically have to have multiple accounts and rely on industry of scale to make significant amounts of money in this game

>>149442453
What do you consider significant amounts of money?

>>149443290
Not him but 1b/h is a nice amount of money

>page 10

>DT
>no shitposting
What's happening /eog/ ?

>>149451050

I'm masturbating furiously to seismics dog girl game, no time for /dog/.

>>149451050
I'm playing Starbound.
It's a better game now.

>>>/v/346071975

>>149442453

>rely on multiple accounts

I play on a single account with one character, sub 5mil SP and I can make 500 million a day without even trying through industry.

is machariel still best for level 4s? or has anything overtaken it? looking at a number of eve forum posts but they're a bit out of date. kinda bored of cruise missiles now.

>>149426605
Station trading in jita. There is really no easiest way to make a decent passive income, provided you have a decent starting capital (5b at least). And your income increases as the capital you invest grows.

>>149456404

I agree with you but I think your estimate on the starting capital is a little too extreme. I started with a fresh character a long time ago and got 100 million doing sell-buy hauling using EveCentral with a shitty stock T1 indie within a day of completing my career agent missions, and used that to start station trading and made my first billion relativy quickly. Obviously yes you can make a lot more money with more capital to invest but in no way is if not feasible for a intrepid noobie enteprenuer to make good money through station trading with a sub-1b wallet.

>>149455692
500m/day playing 20h/day isnt hard

>>149457038

Try 2 - 3 hours.

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>star
>citizen

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>lowsec

woooow i cant make my 5% return on my catalysts anymore. great game see see pee, im going back to elite where people cant grief me by cheating the market

>>149456953
It's absolutely feasible to start trading with any amount of money in your wallet. Hell, the guy from evemogul reached 1b in less than a month, starting with the 5k isk you get after character creation.

But for an advanced pve player that can run lvl 4s, wormholes, plexes and ratting in low sec, etc... that is still going to be more profitable than low capital trading. You need to have at least a 5/10 billions to invest in order to outclass the income provided by those activities.

ham vs hm for pve? is the extra application going to be worth it?

>>149459194

Ah, yeah you'd be right on that count then. I really just enjoy trading and industry and dont really care for PvE or ship PvP, and I make damn good money that more than covers my needs, so I lose sight sometimes of other things that may be more profitable.

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>/v/

>>149380691
>Retards aren't able to pay attention in this game.
Or the fat mouth breather with the feminine voice that pretends to be a girl on the internet needs to stop breathing into his mic so hard when he speaks so we can fucking hear him

>>149404470
>fit up bait myrm with exile and mid grade asklepians
>3k hp per cycle on 2 medium 1 maar
The most amazing thing about that was that somebody actually bit my hook.

>triple rep

guaranteed shitfit

>>149413119
Snuff

>>149413648
Idk why people would bother wardeccing Snuff

>>149463464
>hurrrrrrrrrr idk what bait is oh look a myrm sitting in a large i want to warp in my battleship it definitely can't tank that!!!!

>>149463871
>oh look it has either empty highs or a bunch of frigate guns let me just engage

it's obvious bait but it's also not even a good fit

>>149464004
>this drone boat has no guns omg!
Wrong again.

>I have a drone meme bonus I'll just leave my 5 turret hardpoints unused

this is why you're a shitter

>my fittings skills are shit thus everyone who flies a myrmidon doesn't fit guns
Actually if you're not a spastic you can fit medium autos even with trip rep.

>not quadrep
fucking shitters I swear

>xir doesn't hexarep xems Myrmidon
?

>see myrmidon
>clearly bait
>attack it with my ibis
>he counters
>uncloak my 12 alt avatars

the memer becomes the memed

>be myrmidon
>not even bait
>obvious ibis bait comes
>shoot it
>he uncloaks 12 avatars
>my alt coincidentally happens to warp in in a polarized machariel
>blitz all 12 avatars for 500m/hr

>be myrmidon
>pve fit
>everyone thinks it's bait
>get to rat in busy system with no one bothering me
>man it feels good to be a gangsta

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Behold.

I want to go to a place in 0.0 (or lowsec if 0.0 is completely impossible) and plop down a base and make that area my hood, where i do all the pve shit you do in eve, mining etc.

What are the obstacles i need to get rid of to accomplish this?
Do i absolutely need to be part of some block to do this?

>>149465380
To elaborate: i hear all the time how most of null is actually completely empty etc. I also accept the fact that i might lose some / a lot of ships and money in the proccess.

>>149465380
The obstacle is the playerbase because even being in a bloc won't help you. Snuff watches every single super cap seller so that they can hunt the person who buys it and everyone in the game likes to shoot miners.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/55249876/

You can join some nullsec industry corp but you should be aware that there is risk in everything and your ships days are numbered whatever you do.

>>149465380
>What are the obstacles i need to get rid of to accomplish this?

mostly logistics to move your shit. Go to the system you want to control, scan down a WH to high sec and just bring your shit.

>Do i absolutely need to be part of some block to do this?

no, plenty of empty systems in NPC NS or sov NS if you have the people to defend your space.

>>149465626
I'm on that km, that stupid Russian actually tried to cloak under his cyno. He didn't move he literally just cloaked directly underneath his cyno in the middle of nowhere.

>>149465337
Why do you have frigate cap batteries? Make that an Eos.

>>149465337
BRUH YOU GONNA GET APLHA'D BY AN IMAGINARY TORNADO GANG

>>149465626
>>149465651
Ok, cool.

Are jump freighters absolutely mandatory?
I suspect cloaking transport ships are at least needed?

>>149466027
>mfw 20 bil supercap pilot is dumber than most 5 mil frigate pilots

>>149466513
>Are jump freighters absolutely mandatory?

I can say they are not, but then I would have to add astericks out the ass to that "No***". Because while technically you can live without JFs, they are necessary if you ever go head to head against a group that has an established JF network.

You can survive either scanning down Whs to empire and bringing stuff through it, or having someone scout you through gate to gate while you are in an industrial. But WH availability is unpredictable, and going gate to gate is suicidal. So yeah, you can see why JF isn't technically not needed, but you are hurting yourself if you are leader of a group of people and you don't have it.

>>149465380
>join nullbabby carebear group
>do your nullbabby carebearing

it's not a failing of the game that you can't do this solo. it would be a failing of the game if it was impossible for people to fuck with you

>>149467042
see this is why i at first wanted to try this without joining an alliance.
Nullbabby has such a negative stigma around it. But i guess to you guys i'd be a nullbabby all the same, part of a block, or not.

>>149467498
it's better to be a somethingbabby or somethingfaggot than caring what people think

there's nothing wrong with living in nullsec

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>>149467727
>there's nothing wrong with living in nullsec

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>>149433492
Your chart makes no sense
What the fuck are you doing

>>149466179
>frigate cap batteries
They changed the sizes a while ago

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>Missiles

>>149468842
You can still fit larges ez.

>>149468842
When it comes to shields and cap batteries you go one size up for everything

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Look at this and weep.
About 26mil SP.

>>149469270
unless you're just wasting slots on neut resistance, as pointless as that is

>>149469270
Sure let me fit an extra large on on my battlesh-
oh wait

>>149469418
That's right you retard

https://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=19206

>>149469597
I am talking about batteries

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>active tanking

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>>149433492
>>149468734
HOW ABOUT ME GUYZ

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53? 54? million skillpoints.

>>149470130
Gallente / 10

>>149470130
nullsec afk ratter/10

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Can 220mms hit npc frigs without a tracking rig with hail?

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don't forget to like comment and subscribe

>hail
If it isn't bigger than you never use hail you dumbass

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guess what each of these three characters do
you'll never get it

>>149470398
>994m/s

if you aren't webbed and aren't a retard then probably

>>149470959
pvp, falcon, blops/jf

>>149470959
Is the character on the right a Jump Freighter alt?

>>149471151
>>149471179
right is a jf in training

>>149413119
Internet Terrorists[N0OBZ]
chilling in tribute, fighting the russians and farming the guristas.
'tis all good

>be station trading a specific type of faction battleship in Jita with a nice 10% margin.
>have a many competitors that play the 0,01 game with sell orders. I babysit my sell order and manage to stay afloat and sell.
>suddenly a faggot puts up a sell order for ONE SINGLE BS for less than 5% margin.
>I think: "It's a single sell order for 1 item.Obviously nobody needs to undercut. Just wait a few minutes and it will be sold"
>Suddenly every single moron who was selling that type of faction BS, even those with 5 item sell orders, proceed to undercut.

Why people with african-tier IQ are allowed to play the market?

So at this point I've done literally (literally) everything in Eve aside from Faction Warfare and Production. I've heard that Production is difficult to break into due to having to compete with super-researched and efficient BPOs and the exclusivity of T2 BPOs. Can anyone with some experience doing production expand on this?

Are there are decent Faction Warfare corps like what Eve-Uni is for general skills or WarpToMe is for incursions?

>'tis

What you guys use for 10/10 BR ?

Muninn

>>149472802
how much resist, ehp and tank/s ?

>>149471895

It's a bad deal to try to trade items with a lot of active suppliers because that will happen sooner or later. Hell, I do it all the time with my produced goods if theres too much competition to get them to either fuck off or to bait them into low prices to buy them all out and resell them. I find that its usually a waste of time to trade things like ships, you can find a lot of better trades out there.

>>149471979

It's true that you have stiff competition with established producers, but there are a lot of things on the market that you can produce for a healthy profit that dont have many suppliers, it just takes a bit of market research on your part to find them. My advice is to stay away from ship and ammo production unless you get into T2 building.

>>149471895
you fucked up
shoulda bought it
might not have made money off it but you might have saved your margin

>he shouldn't have done it in the first place
nigga he's not a trader, he's someone who wants to get his ship sold quick but make a little more than buy order money off it. he did exactly what he should have done. and your counter play to that move is to buy it to protect your orders.

>>149475092

He makes it quite clear he is selling more than one. Buying things like that to protect orders is fine but when you have too many people .01 ISKing you run the risk of someone doing it again or that same guy continuously putting up a single ship at below market value and suddenly you have 10 ships you bought and when the bubble pops, you're fucked because now you're in the red. It's a gamble that you have to play if you think the market price is stable, and if it was that guy wouldnt have to worry, just be a little patient and wait for prices to go up again

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>after 1 month, get enough skills to pilot my shiny new cov-ops exploration frigate
>do tons of research and preparation for journeying into low/null-sec
>methodical usage of d-scan, local checking, etc.
>hit up a lucrative data site
>die to rats cause my pvp overview didn't show hostile npcs

IT'S NOT FAIR

>>>/v/346080834

>>149475860
>I played it once and never talked to anyone because I'm an autist
>shit game

>>149476285
she's right tho

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>>149475730
>do tons of research
clearly not enough

>>149475730
also i sure hope you were diving with a t1 cloak t1 frig during that month of training

>>149476436
>>149475860
>it's not good because millions people aren't playing

>>149470496
>t. """"""""""""""""""elite"""""""""""""""""" """""""""""""""""""""""solo"""""""""""""""""""""" pvper

>

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>>149475860
Who makes these shit threads?