/4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization, and 4x General

>>149269776
>still no good insect colony management game
COME OOOOOOON

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Civilizations with mods is okay.
I'll wait a bit before starting Alpha Centauri. I don't like what I heard about it to be honest famalam.

>>149270338
I'm surprised you didn't add your mods to pastebin desu

>>149269776
>>Recommended mods for Civilization VI
>VI

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>>149270387
Because I lack the objectivity to say if they're good or not. They're complete, yes. You have customs events and decisions, yes.
But are they balanced? Gee, I dunno.

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>>149269776
>>149270450
>>Recommended mods for Civilization VI

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>>149270450
stfu

>>149270596
>tagging along like a loser

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>>149269776
>Recommended mods for Civilization VI

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>>149270794
I have a feeling Civ VI will have lots of memes from these leader expressions, that is if we're alive by that time

>>149271314
Reminds me of Frozen.

>AoE 2 has markets and trade cards
Phew lads, only 21 travels and I recovered enough gold to compensate for the card.

>>149271314
>>149270596
What disney movie is this from

>>149272336
Boku no Ghandhi

Also >4 posters
I'm off now, I hope the thread doesn't die

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SupCom is okay.

Speaking of RTS, I tried Nightside and Perimeter.


They're both pretty shit.
Nighside has 8 units for 4 races (which are virtually identical), and Perimeter is unoptimized and slow even on my doomsday computer. Perimeter 2 manages to be even worse.

>tfw you enjoy Civ IV and Civ V equally

I oscillate between playing them

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Rate my Middle East.

>>149274512
>turn arid desert into farmland

I give it two brocolis up

>>149274512
>Istanbul
Pls

>>149274078
What exactly is "slow and unoptimized" in Perimeter?
I've played it just fine.

>>149274827
Let me put it in simple for you : it's shit.

>>149275220
The only thing "Perimeter is unoptimized and slow even on my doomsday computer" tells me you expected pre-x360 era game running fine out of box.

First for Kumo being cute

Well, fuck.

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How's Endless Legend?

>>149277636
Endless

One last bump for the night. Good luck, 4xg.

White only mod doesn't work anymore?

>>149280328
Paradox "fixed" it. Now you can only use mods that were approved by Sally.

>>149280462
Well that's just silly. What's the new workaround then?

>>149280725
I'd say "not playing Stellaris or any game that the SJWs took an interest in", but the real answer is "wait for an update, duh".

>>149280885
I just used the old version where all the human portraits are white. Guess that solves it, although in a not so good fashion.

Forbanna svenskjævler.

>>149280462
You sure? I play with some mods not on the workshop. Also, pretty sure a few racial segregation mods exist.

>>149269776
No custom civilizations in the pastebin?

>>149281686
Aren't those are a bit too specific for pastebin recommendations?

Ten.

>>149277636
Pretty good. I don't know if you can turn off tactical combat but if you can then its an excellent game

>>149274423
Wait, are there still autists defending that 11 year old broken game?

>Only one JFD mod in the pastebin

Nine.

Should we get a game of Civ going at some point, lads?

>Aztecs not available for 3 months after the game comes out
kek can't wait to pirate this garbage game

>I am become the Monster in Stellaris
I feel unclean, because up until now I'd been managing a pretty good run of not antagonizing anybody.
The worst part is that my neighboring bird-people, the first- and for a long time, only- contacts I'd had are now terrified of me. Considering that their Fanatic-Xenophile tendencies were what allowed us to to have good relations in the first place, and how trading tech deals with them had helped keep my research up to speed and my planets developed... we were actually pretty much "friendly rivals" for a long time; when one pulled ahead in fleet strength, the other would catch up in a matter of months, their expansion away from me matched my expansion away from them step for step... I'd have allied with them, if the system for building alliances wasn't so fucked up- seriously, why is it so difficult for equals to form an Alliance? It's safe to say they were the reason I didn't go on an aggressive conquering spree like I'd originally planned, and I've been so engaged because of it.
And now they're terrified of me. They've seen what I can do when angered, and suddenly their old friend looks a lot more menacing.

>>149269637
What.

>>149297471
He said Empire Earth is shit.

>>149299396
Balance-wise, sure.

But goddamn setting up a 4v4 game with AIs was fantastic. Start in the nano-age and watch the bombs fall. It was a never ending nuclear wasteland populated by robots that marched off to their doom.

>>149300604
You could just play TA or SupCom for that

>>149274423
People who champion Civ 4 as the best are just 3MA fanboys that parrot everything they say

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>>149271314
>that is if we're alive by that time

W-what do you mean, anonfriend?

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>>149300604
>a never ending nuclear wasteland populated by robots that marched off to their doom

>>149269776
>http://pastebin.com/5ANRmRur

We need "More Luxuries" and the "Ingame Editor" in the recommended Civ V mods. Probably couldn't hurt to put in "Yet (Not) Another Earth Map Pack either for those who like earth maps.

I need to make a proper mod list soon.

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remainder that BERT is ok

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Everyone! Post your comfy Civ V or Stellaris screenshots. Or even just screenshots of your current game right now. Do it!

>>149304898
I'll pick it up when it's as cheap or cheaper than Civ V when it's on sale right now, but I refuse to pay so much for a reskin game, even if I like sci-fi.

I've been meaning to poach art assets from BE and put them into Civ V for modern era/near future modding.

>>149305135
Fuck it, I bet you can make a transition where it just loads Beyond earth without exiting civ V

>>149305384
I probably could, although there are several bits of BE/RT's atmosphere and tech tree that wouldn't fit in a normal game of Civ V. But hell, we'll see. Probably at some point. Aliens can be literal invasive species on earth or something.

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>>149304914
Happiness is getting both Civil Engineering and the Affinities as yields mods working together.

I wish I could play bert
I love the look of the affinity units but thats basically all I enjoy about the game
which sucks
it feels so half baked

>>149308451
Imagine it's a Bethesda game and just let mods fix it. >>149306732 mods plus some others I use like Unit naming and scaling make the game feel much better. Although I doubt anyone is going to go through the effort of fixing all the lore and how shallow it is.

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>>149309425
Although this is pretty neat.

>>149285069
You can elect to auto resolve.

Stellaris modding question:

Is it not possible to mod the election process for a custom government?

>>149316780
Adding: I mean modding the interface.

I'm not able to build any buildings for some mod civilizations. Anyone know what could be causing this issue?

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>neighbor is a collectivist
>plays nice with me, even offers me a nonaggression pact for some reason
>they're pretty strong militarily and we're far enough away that border conflict malus won't happen for a while
>form defensive pact

~50 years later

>fallen empire gets pissed off at my neighbor because muh slavery
>i'm still on good terms with both the neighbor and the fallen empire, everything's fine
>fallen empire wardecs on my neighbor
>i get pulled in via defensive pact
>fallen empire's wargoals include NOTHING BUT LIBERATING SYSTEMS OWNED BY ME BUT NONE OF MY NEIGHBOR'S

>my goddamn enraged fucking face when

What does /4xg/ think of Age of Wonders 3?

>>149320874
Diplomacy in this game is a goddamn joke.

I *have* to tie myself down with militarily binding agreements to get anything done diplomatically, but there are so many fucking mechanics in-place to punish me for cooperating and signing treaties with the AI.

Fallen empires is a nice concept on paper but it really does nothing except limit player's ideology choice. Where are the pro-slave or pro-war fallen empires? Why do they never seem to help me when someone else's purging my race that MIGRATED THERE BY THEIR OWN VOLITION AND THUS OUT OF MY SPHERE OF CONTROL and giving me negative infinity happiness penalty globally?

should I upgrade all my fleets to jump drive ? normal , not spy
I'm tired of using wormholes

>>149322631
Always jump when it is available and why the fuck you haven't done so?
The upgrade cost is so cheap now.

>>149285380
Just add them yourself lad

>>149288548
Does MP even work with pirated version?

rise of nations is pretty fun.

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>page 10 in 20 minutes
wew

Also Mongol's UA is completely trash, what do you guys think would be more interesting and also balanced and also make sense? Or do you think it should be trash because their Keshiks and Khans are simply too OP?

>>149321172
pretty fun, more variety in units than a lot of 4x games when it comes to fighting. if you like that hex based tactical battle system its really great, if you dont you wont have fun. i like being able to modify the landscape with spells and customize my heroes, i really wish i knew people who played because some of the co-op scenarios look really fun

>>149300604
You got me at "AI is fantastic". I almost bited.
>AI doesn't have to collect ressources
>can just spam buildings
>once you get WW2, it will spam nuclear bombers
>"fantastic"
No. The only good things with Empire Earth are the houses and the hospital, they're fun to use.

>>149324725
The ressource cap is a pain in the ass and I never managed to play it online, it always crashed.

Rise of Legends is still a fond memory of mine, though.
Giacomo-sama, you were so beautiful.
Giacomo is love, Giacomo is life.

>>149331359
Not him but the full context was
>setting up a 4v4 game with AIs was fantastic
Let's not jump to the wrong conclusion here.

>>149332397
Having allies does not make you nuclear proof.

>firaxis is doing an event with streamers and other notable civ players on youtube on friday
>first 150 turns and they can use their own footage, instead of stock footage
>they can release their footage a few days after the event

>>149333847
This is how you buy good reviews. By treating streamers like speshul snowflakes.

>>149329198
the mounted unit movement is nice, but the city state combat bonus is really mediocre
keshiks are a nightmare though

recommend me a mod that adds more stuff that isn't just a bunch of meme civs for civ5
i tried community balance patch but i got 5 jungle starts in 5 starts and decided it's poopoo

>>149270596
>>149271314
I swear to god this is a character from Tangled. Like not just a resemblance, it actually is.

>>149334049
What about shishkebabs?

>>149334363
HYPERDIMENSION NEPTUNIA

>>149299396
And he's right. I still have nightmares of that pathing. The tanks and ships turning into eachother and getting eternally stuck, the soldiers going in literally the opposite way you tell them, the cavalry spinning around in place, struggling to face the right direction so they can advance...god, no more, please.
At least the campaigns were good, I guess.

>>149329198
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=453778448

>Unique Ability: Conquest of the World
>Units have extra strength against cities during golden ages, and they are extended upon capturing a city. Gain +1 Happiness per internal trade route, increased to +2 during golden ages.

>Unique Unit: Khan
>Replaces the Great General. The birth of a Khan triggers a small Golden Age. Has five movement points and heals adjacent units for an additional 15 HP per turn.

>Unique Unit: Keshik
>Has +1 Movement point over the Knight it replaces, and unlike him the Keshik is a ranged unit. Starts with the Great Generals I and Quick study promotions, and has no penalties against cities.

>>149334980
I take it you never played Spore, especially the Tribe phase.

I totally aced that game and did every phase in 15 minutes max, even the civilization one, but the pathfinding often fucked me so hard in the Tribe phase that it took me 3 total wipes to win.

And many RTS have incredibly pathfinding as well.
Warlord Battlecry, Red Alert 2, even SupCom sometimes has a shitty pathfinding.

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>>149335169
>Unique Unit: Khan

Is there an actual strategy to building wide in civ 5? I had some good games building tall, but going wide even on king difficulty I got my ass kicked

>>149335703
Rush settlers.

>>149335703
Play tall until Ideologies, then pick Autocracy and go as wide as you can.

>>149335703
Really depends on the map, if there are actually good settling spots you can easily go wide on king

If first time trying wide play Celts, I think their UB gives 3 happiness, will really help you. Also you can easily get religion, which will help with happiness and your choice of victory even more

>>149335703
Wide is fun, but I never found it very good.
Could go sacred sites with the Byzantines, though.

>cold
>hot water in my apartment has been inconsistent at best for the last 3 months
>try to have a shower to warm up
>hot water decides not to work after 20 seconds
>now I'm wet and even colder
>decide to play a game of civ
>get same turned on great library and parthenon

>>149335732
>>149335804
>>149335916
>>149335981
thanks for the advice
I tried to play America, it was going really well and I almost won a science victory, but Rome kept me focused on fighting wars for too long and Brazil grabbed a culture victory

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>>149336092
>now I'm wet

>>149336092
>now I'm wet
I'll dry you up, Anon.

Someone was talking about Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds earlier.
I got it on GoG a few months ago, but for some reason there's only one music track that doesn't repeat. Anyone else has the same problem?

>>149336092
>great library and parthenon
shit wonders desu

>>149273760
SupCom 2 is bretty good, love me some spider monkey rushes

>>149340909
Dunno, it's too easy to spam EX.

the only way I can expand in stellaris is either by fighting the 5 allied empired surrounding me or a FE. what do?
also what are some must-have mods

>>149342157
The Neptunia mods.

>>149342157
Anime race pic mods if you're playing a human
Humans look buttugly.

>>149342157
Neptunia mods

>>149342157
The Neptunia one.

>>149342543
>>149343071
>>149343228
t. Nep

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>>149343386
>implying
Lies and slander.

>>149342713
>>149343071
>>149343228
I don't even watch anime, is the white people mod still available?

>>149344115
It replaces all white people with men hiding in cardboard boxes.

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>>149344115
CARDBOARD BOXES

>>149331359
Oh, yeah, the AI was dumb as a brick and cheaty as all fuck, that I know. I meant to say the games where I could watch the AI basically use their cheats to abuse each other were fun.

>>149301735
>>149303964
I played EE first. Supcom is also great in regards to massive-scale metal carnage.
Though I can't manage the base building/eco side to supcom without feeling overwhelmed and exiting

>>149309640
¿Que?

>>149304898
Might try if there are any good mods desu

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>>149344404

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>>149345139
!

>>149345112
Compa please.

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>>149320874
>Fallen Empire
>Wanting to Liberate

Is that something only the protectors do? Speaking of fury:

>Ironman, Normal because I suck
>Going well, get "Protective" from an empire that started same year but somehow expanded 6x faster than me
>We bro out, I give him research agreements and he funnels money to me
>Alliance get
>Joins me in taking out Fallen Empire, which I have ceded to me
>abuse war mechanics to make him help me destroy Unbidden
>he gets credit but it's okay my faction is cloak and daggery in the RP I have going
>super-mega-holyfuck-block is technologically superior to me despite my having tachyons from FE
>Start war because they're insulting me every week
>Alliance buddy had a contested system with two habitable planets side-by-side with enemy
>Alliance buddy spams spaceport build from his homeworld, every day drops warscore lower
>actively fighting this super-bloc ALONE and eking out warscore
>fuckstick churns out enough spaceport abortions that the enemy gets us to -100 and forces demands
>no opportunity to deny
>lose half my empire, including several core worlds that my economy was fucking hinged on

I am probably going to eschew the buddy-buddy shit in the first 100 years from now on simply due to how fucking retarded AI alliances get, and how fucking retarded the war demands from enemies are.

>You demand I liberate a single planet and take a humiliation?
>WELL FUCK YOU I WANT YOU TO CEDE EVERYTHING YOU EVER OWNED AND I'LL ABUSE EVERY CHEESY MECHANIC IN THE GAME TO GET IT FORCED.

>>149269776
Is she going to use Tabu Magic anytime soon in the manga?

>>149345859
There's no Taboo Magic.
She uses Shadow and Hell magic a few times, but mostly poison.

She does raises Taboo to max, and then throw a fit.

>>149345961
thanks
;_;

WHY DO THE STUPID INTERDIMENSIONAL ALIENS COME WHEN I AM AT WAR WITH 2 FE'S

>>149346356
Why do you war on 2 FEs in the timeframe you know that they might come? They are a timed event menace.

>>149346425
Because he's a fucking retard.

>>149346508
rude

>>149346425
>>149346508
i was powerful enough and they insulted me

>>149346609
wont be powerful for long if they unbidden are in your empire + war with 2 FEs

>>149346356
>>149346609
the FEs obviously called for help from their interdimensional friends

>>149346042
Taboo isn't magic, it's a skill that serves no purpose but to tell you to fuck off and stop pursing the dangerous shit.

>>149347117
Is also a skill for the chruch to kill the shit out of you.

>>149347249
>implying the Church has power
>implying anyone in the world right now has power compared to The Pale Goddess
>implying even she has power compared to Wakaba Hiiro

>>149347294
For human standards they do.
isn't the Pope a reincarnated child with max taboo too?

>>149347381
Not...really?

>>149347694
Oh wait, it was the pope spy, i got confuse

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Oh my fuck oh my fuck oh my fuck, would you guys just destroy the fucking space station. We fought superior numbers and ships and were almost wiped because you guys kept fucking targeting some transports instead of doing what you were told!

>>149347816
combat is a joke
>attack mining station
>massive fleet incoming
>cant position them because they must kill mining station first

>>149347816
Because Paradox.

how big can the prethoryn get? they are on the other side of the galaxy?

>>149349569
They WILL get into your asshole. It's literally a matter of time, and whether or not you're good at stomping 30+ Colony ships per planet per month.

Burn the queens down, and hope to God you can get more steam than they do.

>>149269776
>However, if I revive this time, what will happen to my appearance?
>Palm-sized Arachne?
I need a picture of a palm-sized spider waifu.

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>Maou took down the dragons
>"now the logical step is to eat them"
>"..."
>"WAAAAAAAAAAIT A MINUTE"

And while I'm at it, any RTS with fun undead? Each time I'm asked, I'm just told "warcraft 3 lol".

>>149349621
I can't reach them and they keep expanding on the other side of the galaxy, am I doomed?

>>149350314
Is there really no other games with undead?
Warcraft lacks in originality, and yet sometimes mix things that aren't really undead into the blender.

Like the gargoyles. They're closer to golems than undeads. And the death riders are corrupted humans rather than undead.

>>149350163
>any RTS with fun undead?

Not an RTS, but I've heard Dominions 4 is preddy gud if you wanna be a necromancer and have skeletons everywhere.
I haven't played it. I tried once and it made me feel stupid.

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>>149350314

>>149350685
I play it a lot, but it's not really a RTS.

>don't lose any wonders
>don't have the pantheon I want taken
>don't have the AI settle obnoxious forward cities near me
>don't have Zulus or Monty or any other warmonger civ near me forcing me to invest early into military
>chugging along
>get to industrial
>no coal at all on my half of the map
>whatever, enter through modern for ideaology
>no aluminum at all on my half of the map
>decide to go battleship some on the other side for coal and aluminum
>no oil at all on my half of the map
>find a fuck ton of uranium instead
>spend the rest of the game building nukes and nuking my neighbors
>there's a ring of fallout surrounding my corner of the continent

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>>149351220
Hello Gandhi.

>>149351220
Nukes felt rather underwhelming in Civ V desu

>>149350163
The new warhammer faction has a pretty interesting undead faction, although it's not entierly warcraft undeady.

>>149352784
I specifically wants to avoid something warcrafty.
It's not enough undead and too much evil things.

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>>149350163
Heroes of Annihilated Empires

>>149352931
How's the game? Is it fun?

>>149352878
The one in the warhammer game is based mostly around vampires acting as necromancers, however the dead serve only as soldiers. Their lands are still inhabited by living people, who I guess turn into soldiers at their lords whim.

There are also traditional beasts and undead monsters you'd associate with the dead.

Look up vampire counts on the warhammer game wiki. I'm sure they have a short read about them.

>>149350360
If you can hold them off and then push them off you, no. They will basically be ignored by the AI, however, and use Warp/Jump Drive tech to zip around. Keep that in mind. IIRC, killing the queens gives you a window to start pushing them back.

Is Age of Wonders a 4X?
Is it good? I tried a few Civilizations games like that that were more combat oriented, most of them were boring.

Even while including rts, we're still dying? Are you fucking joking?

>>149356571
The two old people who remember /rtsg/ aren't going to make this thread alive anymore that it was.

>>149356712
>old
Fuck you kiddo.

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>mfw defeated an Fallen Empire for the first time

Feels good man. Those rings are tough though.

Scourge still expanding, they have almost half the galaxy and I can't even reach them

>>149356571
>Even while including rts
We didn't. I wasn't allowed to.

>>149357061
No, fuck you and go spam COH2 like the faggot you were in /rtsg/

>>149359338
>implying
Bitch, please. I don't have neither the time or the crayons to deal with you.

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>>149359136

Are there any must-have mods for Stellaris?

>>149363438
Whichever one uninstalls the game and waits until it's finished

>>149356571
the rts discussion only brought a couple of people in, but every rts has been talked to death already. the only ones coming out in the foreseeable future are...cossacks 3, which I know nothing about, halo wars 2, which is casual as fuck and is only good because its a halo game, and dawn of war 3, which has evolved into a love/hate relationship with a lot of people, splitting the fanbase apart for now, and will likely get its own gen because of its popularity when it comes out.

>>149364253
Cossacks 2 was shit, so...

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>>149364253
What the fuck do we talk about then

>>149349569
If you don't (or can't) meet them now, they will eventually reach you. The AI shits the bed during endgame events. I would focus on nipping them in the bud now, since they could completely overwhelm you if they have half the galaxy under their control.

If you haven't already, build battleship and cruiser designs with a heavy emphasis on lances, plasma weapons, and point defense. The scourge is easy as fuck to battle (Point defense heavy long range fleets can easily take on Prethoryn fleets x2-x3 times their size with negligible losses), but they're a pain in the ass to eradicate.

>>149366127
I dunno man. video games whenever we think of it. civ 6 is out in a few months so we just have to last until then. unless its a flop. in which case, we're boned.

So is Stellaris 1.2 worth playing or not?

Had some mild amusement at launch but decided to stop and wait for Paradox to actually develop the game like usual.

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We could talk about what we want to see in 4x/RTS games.

Starsector ship combat should be the standard for space combat.
More so than spessships, replace the background with a landscape graphic with ground-based combat units as replacements for ships. Frigates as infantry, destroyers as armor, cruisers as arty, so on and so forth.
Just give me ground combat that isn't watching health bars tick down for fucks sake.

>>149367426
How is Endless Space? I have it installed on my pc but I don't think I ever played it

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>>149367718
Not as good as Stellaris

>>149274512
What scenario/map are you playing?

>>149367718
Combat is pretty meh, expanding is fun, but the rest is bland.

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I just drove to the corner store and bought a paysafe card so I could get Civ V: Complete.

Never played any 4x games or Civ games before. I have experience with grand strategy though. Any tips for a beginner? Is this game fun with friends?

>>149370415
Kinda. There's always that one asshole who takes 15minutes to finish his turn while you wait, and then whines because you went to take a shit.

>>149366889
I'd wait for a while longer.

Diplomacy is still a fucking mess, and the AI suck. That said, I am quite happy with the colony development / research / resource management / sector aspects of the game.

The AI is the biggest issue. Retarded war demands, a refusal to directly confront any of the end-game threats (scourge, AI consciousness, Unbidden), and ""guerilla warfare tactics"" that involve an inferior empire running fleets around until you finally corner one make most forms of diplomacy or war a nuisance or an extreme problem.

>>149370415
>Any tips for a beginner?
I could probably write a paragraph here but really not feel like doing it now. Just play it a few times on 3rd or 4th difficulty(You won't learn anything on the first or second) and ask any questions you have here. A few things:
Ranged units are absolutely overpowered, if you feel like you're in danger in early game rush crossbows
Otherwise always rush for education techs
And if you're going for culture victory use theming bonuses. I learned theming bonuses pretty late but they're useful as hell

>>149370415
Get a few mods.

>>149367718
I actually really like Endless Space. The different races specialized in different aspects of the game's mechanics and play differently. Expansion is kept engaging with cold wars, allowing for empires to snatch up systems without irreversibly pissing off future potential allies.
Allies were quite nice as well, and from the games I played, AI players responded to threats appropriately. There were numerous games where I was a member of an unshakable alliance that stood against a massive galactic super-powers. Not too much backstabbing either, at least not by races that are predisposed towards warfare.
Tech descriptions are fun to read too. I felt a sense of technological progress from the early days of dangerous space travel and hardship to the technological marvels created hundreds of years later. It's all kinda fluff stuff, and all the techs are building upgrades that improve the stats of planets and fleets. Take that as you will.
UI is slick like the ice melting on your mom's pussy last night.
All the criticism is valid, but I personally don't find it breaks the game for me. 'Manual' combat in particular is quite boring, there isn't much of a difference just auto resolving.
I'd say it's worth buying when the whole bundle goes %25-50 off.

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>still no empire borders for mac

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>>149372902
>mac

>>149372871
I agree with the UI. I think it's the only reason I still try that game.

The rest is fucked up by the fact that the AI cheats so openly with research and production.

Is it just me, or is Cloud Lightning just straight up worse than Blue Laser?

>>149371551
>overpowered
>implying range isn't the king of the battlefield

How is Act of Aggression?

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>>149374293
>he actually researched cloud lightning

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>>149374293
>he actually researched cloud lightning

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>>149376165
>>149375884
I literally just got Stellaris, and started a game on the smallest map to learn and get comfortable.

Guess I fell for the >RARE TECHNOLOGY


On another note, what is the best way to get influence?
I want to build more Outposts, but my Influence hasn't moved from +1 since the start of the game.

>>149376836
Colonize more planet, upgrade the basic building to a planetary capital, and declare a rival.

Company of Heroes 2 was shit.

How do I avoid the Unbidden in my game? I've played some 12 campaigns now to year 2400+, both singleplayer and multi, and every single one has had the fucking unbidden as the crisis. I don't ever even get jump drives until long after the Unbidden are here.

I have never even seen the other crisis because all I ever get are these swirly ghost fucks.

>play with hyperspace entire game
>unlock psi jump drives
holy fuck
I thought hyperspace is the best ftl, boy was i wrong
is warp/wormhole similar to psi jump?

>>149367426
i really wish we would see more persistent campaign stuff. as much as i hate to say this ive been playing mordheim city of the damned and even though its a boring slow game with stupid mechanics i love so much the fact that my commander has a peg leg and one giant axe arm since he lost limbs and theyre actually there modeled. i think something like that on the scale of an rts/turn based game like an age of wonders/fallen enchantress or something would be really cool.

the main issue i have with playing a lot of 4x games at this point is they end up blurring together a bit and you can definitely run out of things to see if you arent playing with people. i think more skirmishy types of campaigns would help along with something to still work towards after a hundred hours or something. idk, maybe we should just talk about squad tactics games too at this point

>>149373130
Dreamworks.

>>149351831
Really? I feel that I can go full retard with them.

>no global warming bullshit
>leaders fear you
>can wipe off cities from map if pop is low enough

Sounds like fun to me.

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Sidenote, this is fucking retarded. Conquered a Gaia world this fuckstick took from me, and I now have a 1-pop faction that routinely destroys buildings on it.

Do rebellions scale with the number of pops in them, or is it a fixed combat of [x] rebel troops? I'm trying to determine if I should console command kill this asshole, as I'm Individualist/Fanatic Militarist and can't purge him.

So, I hear Crystal Plating in Stellaris is pretty good. Exactly how good is it? Is it better than plain armor? What ships should I use it on?

I ask because I've managed to at least get it started, but I had the terrible luck to spawn with a Xenophobic FE on my borders, and they've already declared war on me once. I've gotten my two fleets to a strength comparable to theirs, but the majority of the fleet is still cruisers and destroyers, while the 12 or so battleships act as flagships, trying to keep the smaller ships alive while attacking at range with torpedoes/strike craft/Kinetic Artillery. The longer my destroyers and cruisers last, the better my odds for victory are going to be.

>>149383832
It's a flat HP boost which is massive on smaller ships.

>>149382826
I thought rebellions were absolute compared to your total pop.
Guess I misunderstood.

>>149373132
That UI makes me feel like I'm actually overseeing an empire.
As for AI, I find myself fortunately gifted with a certain lack of mental capacity. Normal AI was enough of a fight for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM2kgzMrH1g

>>149384206
My "Charger-class" destroyers have armor modules to get them up to 25% damage reduction; is a base health boost better, or should I keep them armored?
They're armed with Autocannons in the front, with a medium Railgun in the back to give them some extra range; they're essentially sacrificial screens to get in close and draw their fire, shredding down their shields once they get close enough. They're going to die in droves, I just want to know how to keep them alive longer so they keep the fire off the cruisers and battleships longer.

hey guys
so like im playing Stellaris and fucking every game this nigger AI always gets ahead of me
can u guys help me git gud

>>149380859
Persistent campaign stuff?
I'm imagining something along the lines of a game "piece" for the virtual board of the game. Be that ships or such.
Which has been done to some degree, tough actual characters from the game-world acting as additional pieces could add a new layer to overall gameplay.

Skirmish campaign sounds interesting. Though I haven't a clue as to what you're envisioning.

>>149386124
sure thing, but first tell us how the AI is getting ahead of you. Technology-wise? Colony-wise? Building fleets faster than you? Building fleets you always lose against?

If it's fleet-related, the solution is simple; research torps as soon as you get them, then equip them on every slot on your corvettes and destroyers. I've beaten AI fleets of equal strength with weapons three tiers ahead of me just by spamming basic Torpedo modules.

>>149386145
basically, imagine youve got an overall plot or objective or whatever to work towards, but at the same time on the map you've got little side objectives and possibilities that are randomly generated that you can basically just play forever. itd basically be like jacking up the barb spawns on civ but not just random guys. maybe youd have to go get an artifact, maybe youd have to put down some peasants, maybe some foul demons or tainted creatures or rogue robots or whatever. a lot of 4x games have events but theyre usually either just percent changes to things or maybe some extra spawns. i guess think of endless legends quests but more of that, something that could possibly even make the game fun to do if it was just you on the map with no proper ai/human enemies selected. it would need an actual battle system though to really work, which might be an issue for some people

>>149386708
Nah i usually always have either Equal or Superior Fleet Strength, but they seem to be like 5 - 10 Techs ahead of me every game.
also should i be like spamming Frontier Outposts early on? Because if i dont it seems like they always get massive leads in terms of systems controlled

>>149387115
If you're friendly with them, trading research grants is a good way to make sure you keep up- you'll probably have to throw a little extra in to make them accept, but if you start early then it'll only be something like 200 Minerals or similar. That or go to war with them and salvage their debris to steal their tech.

Frontier outposts are essential early on, but you also have to be careful with them; you don't need too much influence early on, but you still can't afford to go negative, and you need to be able to eventually disband the frontier outposts, usually once you've built a colony in the same or a neighboring system. I like to try and build them in systems where they'll be harvesting resources from the system's sun, since that makes them either boost your research or negate their own maintenance costs (energy-wise, at least.)

>>149387715
i feel like a fucking idiot, didnt even know u could disband the outpost.
Also the whole alliance/federation thing? is it worth joining the AIs or should i just stay out of them?

>>149388019
Non-Aggression pacts are good if you're not in a position to go to war with them, but anything further like a Mutual-Defense agreement will drain Influence.
This is assuming you can reach a point where they're willing to ally with you in the first place; it's stupidly hard to break the thresholds needed for other empires to ally with you at all.
Add the fact that the AI will likely try and drag you into wars you're not equipped to deal with/can't get to because it's on the other end of the galaxy, and I'd say that right now, it's better to hold off on forming alliances.

>>149385362
The AI isn't smart.
But it feels like it cheats. Building an entire fleet on one planet, or having max sized fleet while I'm still at 5...

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Almost have 40% of all planets. Played this one as hegemonistic imperialists, next run will be a smaller galaxy as peaceful researchers - is it really that different?

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>playing Stellaris
>the AI keeps refusing to ally with me
>+180 relationship
>but -100000 reason because fuck you human player

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Post useless ethos.

Cons:
>Get to build a unique building that costs an assload of influence that does the same thing that Mountain of Purity does FOR FREE
>Fallen Empire wardec magnet
>Produce a negligible amount of extra food that doesn't do much until the planet is fully developed, which is precisely when you don't want all that extra food
>Can't use sectors, unless you were specifically trying to lose a game via faction implosion from unpurgeable xenos or protracted liberation wars

Pros:
>Whoever conquers an empire with this ethic now gets to deal with all the cons, destroying it from within

>>149338941
this

artemis and halicarnassus are leagues better

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>>149277636
Very nice and it has at least one more major expansion to be released.

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>>149304898
Did they ever fix the coalition cascade bug?

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>>149353034
Very fun. Armies of Exigo also had some undead zerg shits.
>>149354513
>Is Age of Wonders a 4X?
Yes. But it's only for warmongering. Every other aspect is barebones. The unit and class variety is 10/10.

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>>149367718
>How is Endless Space?
Much lighter than Stellaris but the cinematic combat is cool, no irony: when you want to watch spaceships blowing up you just load up the orders and watch the fireworks; when you want it over fast you can just auto-resolve.

The hype should be for the sequel, improvements all around.

>>149394362
nope, still fun as hell when it happens, they should really let you have one ally.

>>149350163
kohan is an older game but has a neat undead faction

>>149353034
It is fun until you realize you can savescum the best lvl-up promotions for the hero which will make consequential missions in campaign way easier.

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>>149379436
enjoy being raped by inter dimensional demons

>>149383832
crystal plating is overpowered as hell

if you manage to get it don't even bother with armor

>>149396972
It's not interdimensional, it's extradimensional
>lower dimension beings even putting up a fight
Idiotic, a 4th dimensional being is literally a god to us.

>>149394613
Couldn't find Armies of Exigo on Steam or GoG, so I guess I'll try Heroes of Annihilated Empires.

So I've been playing gal civ 3 recently after getting a craving for space 4x after stellaris thoroughly disappointed me and I've been having a lot of fun with it. I've heard the earlier games in the series were better though, do they still hold up today and are they worth checking out?

>>149387107
I'd imagine the goal of this system is to discourage the player from just taking everything over. Uncapturable cities (or their equivalent)? Probably too restrictive.
Maybe work that into the scenario. Fighting is held in higher regard than conquering, nations compete for objectives and in turn come into good fun conflict. Honorable fighting! With none of that messy raping and pillaging nonsense.
Doesn't have to be just fighting either.

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>>149399963
See by yourself.

>>149400439
Raping and pillaging are the funniest part of war.

HoAE is kinda fun, but dammit the upgrades are expensive.

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>>149274512

>All those Jew stars

>>149405625
>he prefers moon and stars

Terrorist go home.

>stellaris
>use console commands to look at other empires
>massively cheating

now, i don't mind it so much in civ where you can use their stupidity against them

but in stellaris, i think moreso than other better grand strat, there are moments when it comes down to literally nothing but pure stats

>>149405880
>not preferring Tsukuyomi-kun
Amaterasu detected stop being butthurt already.

>>149406136
Why are you false-flagging, Susanoo?

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>>149369465
Earth 2014

Also, here's the rest of the world.

>>149406698
Isn't Amaterasu wet for Susano'o?
>Amaterasu birthed three women from Susanoo's Totsuka-no-Tsurugi (a divine sword) while he...
>Amaterasu birthed three women from Susano'o's Sword

>>149406913
Dunno but I'm going to bed. Try to keep that thread alive, would you kindly?

>>149407879
I'm going to be in an hour too.

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>>149407993
I hope the thread won't be dead when I'll be back.

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>>149408262
Me either

>stellaris already has an inest mod
Rape mod when

>>149408958
Inest?

NINE

>>149408958
>>149409350
what ever did he mean by this?

>>149411349
EIGHT.

>>149412281
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=682288417

>all pops have -5% happiness because synths have limited rights
>I don't even have synths, only robots
>not droids, robots

>>149415262
How do you give a toaster rights?

>>149415670
With influence.

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>>149415262
So they support the right of synths, even though they don't exist? Just in theory?

What's the point of that?

Just started my pacifist playthrough and i regret it already. I'm surrounded by militarist empires and if that's not enough a fallen empire right next to me (on a different arm of the however). Boy do i enjoy this diplomatic playthrough i oh so wanted!

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Bump

>>149418143
cute

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Why is it that I need to bump twice in a row? Talk, damn you all!

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Not him but bump.

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>>149421208

>>149394181
Really? I got the feeling that shifters was gonna be the last one. What faction do you usually play? I want to git gud with the forgotten and Allayi, but they're too subtle for my tastes I think.

>>149418143
How old were they during the Elf Village battle? Shun here looks pretty young still but Katia looks like (s)he's 3-5 years older.

>>149424449
It's "She".
They're like, 16 or so. Shun's just clean-shaven and Katia is just maximum UNF so she looks older.

whats with all the weebshit

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>>149425810
Calm yourself.

Are fanatic ethos even worth it?

is civ 4 any good? will i have fun if i give it a try?

>>149418143
Would rape that slutty elf whore

>>149426775
Memers would say Civ 5 with BNW is just as good if not better than Civ 4. They're wrong. Civ 4 is the best Civilization game and is up there as one of the best strategy games ever.

>1100/1000 fleet capacity
>upgraded to the hilt with torpedos and shields
>attack unbidden outpost with 1 of my 3 fleets
>other 2 fleets attack the portal
>they just swamp you with ships so you can't get in range of the portal
>lost with all hands

>>149429085
Use a fleet as a decoy while you sneak another one behind the portal

>>149426775
if you have the expansion packs, yes. if you dont, its pretty barebones, like civ 5 vanilla.

>>149426775
It's much more moddable than Civ V, so it has many great and autistic mods
It's not that big, unless you live in some shithole you can just download it and try it under an hour

Does anyone here play Aurora and have any cool stories? I kind of want some stuff to keep me dedicated to the game.

Just started a new game today and have put down automines on Venus, Mars, and one of Saturn's moons and found a few jump gates.

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>>149394862
>Endless Space 2

What are some good mods for Endless Space and Legend?

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>>149438116

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>>149438116
>>149438335

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>playing gal civ 3
>get to that stage of 4x where you've won it's just a matter of time
>decide to drag it out and see how far the late game tech can go since this is my first successful game
>build a capital ship with 2k firepower and 100 moves
>can cross the entire map in two turns
>has more firepower than the entire rest of my fleet combined
>the fleet which has more firepower than the rest of the factions combined
>mfw

http://store.steampowered.com/app/203630/
How's this game? Looking for turn based 4x with fantasy shit, like magic elves and shit

>>149437836
Other than some mods that mess with world/galaxy generation, not many.

>>149416662
To fuck me.

>>149426946
"Lew" Skill has raised.

>>149441018
Seems like a second rate age of wonders 2. Which is possibly one of my favorite fantasy games of all time.

>>149441018
It's okay.
It's basically Age of Wonder mixed with Master of Magic, but in Majesty's universe.
Kinda okay, but I don't know how it compares to others 4X.

>page 10

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cant fucking wait

>play inca
>have massive mountain range with a river running alongside it for fresh water
>all the tiles are flat
just kill me

>>149392297
>that early merchant point
it's like you want to gimp your scientist and engineer production

is it like actually worth building anything that isnt Corvettes?

>>149448014
no, just like it isn't worth taking any movement other than warp

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>>149447805
>Inca
>There are sheep on every good terrace farm spot
It's retarded you can't just slaughter the ship or move them or anything

>>149448101
Do you have the webm of her?

>>149448163
I have this gif I had saved from civfanatics thread, but it's too big to upload here so have its link:http://i.imgur.com/UsAxDTK.gif

Someone made a webm of her? I don't think I saw it

>>149448101
>Polynesia
>Have a coastal tile with 5 other coastal tiles touching it
>It has spices on it so I can't build the moai

>>149448284
Yea it was that but in webm format. I need it for sexual reasons.

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>surrounded by empires who use missiles
>unlock point defence almost immediately

[it aint me intensifies]

>2000+16
>there are still people using walls and turrets

Unless you're playing AI War, this is unacceptable.

Hey I played a lot of stellaris when it came out and enjoyed it but found it lacked depth

I pirated the game

Is it worth buying steam to get the updates or is it still a bit crap?

>>149452192
Still a bit crap. So far, Paradox only broke the game more, it'll take a while for them to fix it.

>>149452283
>it'll take a while for them to fix it.
Still wiating for eu4 or ck2 to be fixed. They've only been getting more broken and less about crusading and/or kings the more they get updated.

>>149452362
A similiar process is going on, in that they are focusing on slowing down blobbing now. they patched a lot of the most glaring bugs, so now it's all about the wacky balance patches, and pushing out more DLC as soon as they can.
It still has the lack of stuff to do mid game, and it still has buggy end game menaces. It also needs d some more ways to achieve victory, for those people who like that. Victory conditions are part of 4x games different from grand strategy, which are usually more sandboxish.

>>149452941
>buggy end game menaces
My favorite is how the Unbidden spawn 3 separate 42k Fleets every week, and how you have to double that number in order to chew them down fast enough so that your fleet gets its head out of its ass and breaks the portal.

>page 6

>>149452071

what game?

>>149415670
What would a toaster even do with human rights? Reminds me of the Starcraft 2 bullshit of the
>Zerg deserve to be free!

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>>149422868
>Really? I got the feeling that shifters was gonna be the last one.
The new social platform has achievements for owning every expansion and an empty "???" tootlip for Endless Space. It shows there will be future content which is already planned.

My top two are Dosh Lords and Vaulters but I'm getting bored of that so trying to learn Allayi, not going well. The Forgotten are hilariously easy on maps with many opponents: just keep stealing a tech from here and there and be the most technologically advance civ without even being able to research anything on your own.

>>149454542
AI War.

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I wonder if allowing xenos to migrate was a mistake.

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>>149441018
Combat-focused with the district system Civ6 will use. Lots of humour, hit & miss.

Personally, I prefer AoW3.

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What are you doing Paradox? Please stop.

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>>149455076
>not purging all the xenos, all the time
Fuck dealing with these unhappy pops, they all get to step under my shower.

>>149456406
Game is easy as it is, and I like collecting species.

Scourge is approaching and all I have is devastator torpedoes and x-ray lasers.

What should I use? Torpedoes have better dps, but scourge has fighters, right? Or not?

>>149457412
red throwers are the best

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Then there's this guy who forgot he's mortal apparently.

>>149458757
>two "Chinese" people
>both of them white or slightly browned
What

>>149458889
Paracuck.

>>149458889
I don't think the game relates phenotype to name in any way.

I guess in the future you can be whatever race you want.

>>149458889
>Obama
>Japanese name
>African ancestors
>middle-east middle name
>American

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So, am I going to miss all the fun or am I going to face the whole horde once they eat through everyone else?

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>still no empire borders for mac

>>149459080
Is Obama not a valid African name?

>>149459152
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_Domain

>>149459202
I'm not an idiot, I know there's some stuff in Japan called "Obama".
I'm asking if there's a similar name in whatever culture he comes from.
Shit, Songhai if used as pinyin can mean "Ocean of Song" in Chinese.

>>149459313
I don't think Obama means anything in American.

>>149459391
I dunno some African shit?

>start as a pacifist
>surrounded by militarists
I feel like this is rigged

>>149459513
I don't speak African, and I'm not even sure where his ancestors come from.
Africa is fucking huge, man. "Obama" could mean "man of peace", but in the next country, it could mean "I just fucked your mother and now I'm here for that cute little ass of you".

>>149459618
Obama is a Kenyan name

>>149459119
the latter anon
good luck

>Could've kept wiping out individual fleets of fallen empire with torpedoes
>Decided to invade their system instead

I am dumb and will not get tachyon lances this time.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=483184
Anyone ever try this? Looks like the only Civ V fantasy mod

>>149461046
Reminds me of Age of Wonders to be honest famalamabalakapatorès.

>>149458889

To be honest the majority of asian people of any importance who are not actually in asia have european names.