/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

literally die of brain cancer

Third for F

F.

>>149268027
Clans did 9/11

>>149268027

Really makes you think-

So any consensus on the viper? Is it a shitmech or what?

>>149269346
It's fragile but it's capable of dishing out damage and is extremely fun to play due to massive jump power, there is no area in the game you can't flat foot jump to as an escape route etc. It can also run a few different types of energy based builds (with MGs for flavor) which is nice.

It pretty desperately needs some leg structure quirks at the least though. Otherwise it's basically exactly what it should be as a 40t mech. Jenner IICs are better on the whole due to being able to take more DHS and increase their sustained DPS, but the Viper can bring more raw firepower if it chooses to (excluding SRM bomb Jenner) or actually run 4MGs quite effectively to shred components. 5SPL + 4MG has been wonderful.

It's no shitmech by any stretch, but it's not going to be making waves either. It could use some buffs but it's overall pretty okay. You won't be seeing them used very often over the Jenner IIC, and the Cheetah still has ECM for scouting but that's literally all the Cheetah gets over it. Shadowcat also makes a better sniper at +5t. The Viper doesn't fill any particular niche exceedingly well, but it's not bad at the things it does at all.

>>149268027
That's a pretty neat trick.

>>149271003

It's possible because PGI once again doesn't know what they're doing, and obviously have a shitty projector system setup.

>>149268027
top kek

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Never forget.

>>149270342
>inner sphere gets rifleman
>inner sphere gets archer
>clans get kodiak
>inner sphere gets phoenix hawk
>clans get viper

fug this gay earth

>>149280036
Clans are also about to get the Huntsman and Night Gyr, IS will get a fucking Cyclops.

And then Clans will get the Linebacker, and you'll never see one on the battlefield ever.

>>149281354
Cyclops will be a good robot

>>149280036
IS still has twice the mechs Clan have

>>149281354
Cyclops might actually be alright. 4 ballistic and 7 missile version should be pretty good.

>>149282847
>4 ballistic
Literally a mauler with, most likely, a narrower torso.
>7 missile version

Good luck getting to the required range to use those 7x missile weapons though...

>>149282847
That 4 ballistic is the Hero, and it has a head laser! It'll be a weaker mauler, or a slower Black Widow. gg

The 7 missile variant people might stuff with LRMs and think the Tacticon B-2k will somehow aid their fire support endeavors. You'd be an idiot to run srms on it, even the Atlas struggles with that now.

>>149283151
It will be better than a mauler. The hardpoints will be higher and much closer together. You'll also be able to use a much bigger engine.

>>149283151
It can take a 400XL if it wants, getting close isn't a big problem.

>>149283453
>The hardpoints will be higher and much closer together.
Uh... judging by the concept art they'll actually be lower, and will be one above the other, whereas the Mauler has them side by side and high mounted.
>much bigger engine
...if you run an XL? Sure... XL Cyclops will be the best meme.

Would anyone care to post a build for an Archer Arc-5w designed for lrms? It was my first purchase and I have done quite well with it. Here is my second and current (added srms because I play solo and need something) setup if anyone could critique

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=394&l=39930890b08b95bbbc515eaef1c8710b9f2896eb

>>149283771
You what? The ballistics are clearly higher on the cyclops.

>>149283568
>XL on a mech that's the size of the Highlander

Mmm-hm. Shits gonna get cray-cray, yo.

>>149283771
Regardless of whether you run an xl or standard, you can always use something bigger than a 325 that's available on the mauler.

>>149284298
I see you haven't ever played Banshees or Battlemasters and live in the 2012 era of "Assault mechs can't take XL engines!"

>>149285142
The Zeus can take an XL too, the Victor is almost required to have an XL, it's one of the reasons it's never used, among many others. The Banshee and Battlemaster only use an XL to boat lasers and poke shit from a distance. None of that is even remotely comparable to a 90 toner in the stylings of a slightly faster Highlander that will carry mostly brawler builds.
Fuck off with your shit post.

>play sniper build
>teammates are retarded yoloniggers who start feeding themselves into the enemy team within the first minute
>play brawl build
>all teammates are immediedly retarded babies who do nothing but hide behind cover and run away when they have 5x numbers advantage
Literally only way to win is not to play

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>>149286701
>plays like shit
>blames team
>blogposts

>>149285579
It is nothing like the Highlander BECAUSE IT CAN GO FAST

Likewise the Highlander halfasses every single SRM build it can run. We're also only talking about one variant, the other Cyclops can do 4UAC5, 3AC5 2PPC, and no one cares about the others. There's no point of comparison for the brawling Cyclops because no assault mech, IS or Clan, can do the builds this one can. It's a unique mech.

Also, IS LPLs aren't exactly a long range trading weapon. And XL engines aren't even a reason Victors aren't used anymore, the reason they aren't used is because of power creep, ruined jumpjets, and Timber Wolves.

>>149284037

>standard engine.
>0 arm armor.
>LRMboat with 30 tubes total.
>no endosteel.

-8/10.

>>149289176
Well, like I said. It is my first mech and second configuration. Could you suggest something better?

>>149289447
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=394&l=2e4f1cf402b8cf20ee3e20c90d94340a805e0f43

>>149289447
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=394&l=83ff43e1d77b8a92247b02976c192c74890929ef

Fire the torso lrms and arm lrms with at least 0.5 seconds delay between each other to not trigger ghostheat. Tank with your right side until you go through at least half your ammo then you can try to spread damage evenly with your undamaged side. Take advantage of your high narc mount which doesn't take much to peek.

Once you can afford an xl, then running a srm build will be a much better use of the mech.

>it's a half of your team is dead before you even engage an enemy episode
Nice flank guys

>>149291239
Would http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=394&l=9d774fce3375d5546fe8ba6fa058d5245b0a7751 work?

>>149291239
Thanks m8. I am using lrms just to get to know maps and objectives. I liked being a pest with a light trial mechs so might go back to that once I feel comfortable.

>>149291896
Original ARC-5W guy here so I'm not sure but I think ARTEMIS needs line of sight so is not useful for lrms?

The hit detection on medium mechs is completely fucked, I see them just straight up facetank more damage than heavies or assaults without giving a shit. It's like whats happening on screen is completely mismatched from what the game thinks is happening.

ded

>>149291896
I don't think Narc and Artemis stack and they do the same thing (tighten spread by 25%).

If only to bump the thread
>>149270342
Harabec, I have been wondering how you built the Viper's, or is that some kong secret.

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>>149297954
>Kong secret

VPR-C, all stock omnipods: 4MG, 1.5t of ammo, 5SPL, 1DHS, 12 head armour

VPR-M, all stock omnipods: 6SPL, 2DHS, I did run it with 3DHS and 1 head armour and some off the arms but the arms are too vital I decided so now I just deal with the free .3t

VPR-A, all stock omnipods: 4ML (all ST mounts), 5 extra DHS, stripped left arm (and head down to 12 maybe? Can't remember and can't check atm)

VPR-PRIME: both A STs, 1LPL 3ML

Haven't played the B or the D. I've run some missile builds (3ASRM4, 3SRM4 with 2SL) but wouldn't really recommend them. I also did a memebuild with 1ERPPC 3SRM2 which I would recommend for funsies, but it's obviously not very good. I also haven't done any of the super energy spam builds yet either.

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Is this good or bad?

>>149300104
I wouldn't put much stock into stats but it's mediocre. Above 2.0KDR is good, below 1.0 is bad.

>>149285579
>Victor is required to have an XL; this is why they aren't run anymore
>Banshee and Battlemaster poke shit from a distance

Nigger you are really stupid. Victors got their JJs nerfed and there's better mechs now. They always ran XLs. 400M LPLs aren't exactly "poking". That's ERML range.

>>149293679
git gud

also quirks

>>149300353
You don't want to see my usual fps stats. Below 1 is good,

>tfw ppcs are the weapon I have the most fun with
suffering

Atleast my favourite isn't lurms

>>149303618
but you can meme really hard with LRMs

>>149303845
What if I put some casual lrm launchers on my ppc boat and pretend I'm a lore warcuck

>>149304260
You'll be pretending to be a tier 5 steering wheel retard

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>MWO crashing my PC almost every instance I run it
R I P

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>>149305859
Update and clean your fuckin' shit.

>>149304487
Consider steering wheel mode engaged, then.

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So you wake up one morning and this is what's left of kong.
Do you: A) kill urself or B) go to discord

>>149308702
Only option is A unfortunately. Discord has been in lock down after dudebot hacked it last Tuesday.

RIP: u

>>149309581
>>Discord has been in lock down after dudebot hacked it last Tuesday.

I bet this is good story, please tell.

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For mumble.

>>149312708
ignore the spud
do not respond to the spud

>>149306353
>MWO repair tool meme
okay

>>149313613
No, I mean like update your drivers, clean you PC of Cheetos, dust, and download managers, and then if all else fails try the repair tool.

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I always loved customization in this game.

>>149314118
>it's always nazis and dicks final destination

I thought the game was full of old men not stupid little teens

>>149314678
Middle age is the only point you care about being mature.

>>149314678
>it's always nazis and dicks final destination
What else are people going to draw on their robots when given the chance to do so

>>149314678
>nazis and dicks

What's the difference?

I'll let myself out.

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How's your game doing boy? Your blog seems to be slowing down. Page 10 indefinitely.

>>149315223
>>149314118
one had a vag made...

>>149315306
>13 posts in the past hour even on a friday night when everyone is out

Pretty good. Be sure to cry more about it faggot.

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>phillip

>>149299992
6spl build is great. About as fun as the cheetah.

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>>149315223
Something edgy with lots of wolfs, skulls and kerenskies of course. Like a real adult man.

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>>149315609
I'll get right on that.

Is it me or the mechs somehow look worse?

they don't shine anymore?

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>>149317230
>implying there's any comparison
>scam citizen so shit it can't even get a general at all

kek

>>149317554
Probably related to making the camos and colors show up better. Which is hilarious by the way, the camos and crazy colors are a massive "please fuck my face"-sign now.
>some poor bastard in a bright green marauder running across black rocks in grim plexus and getting shot to pieces from the other side of the map
>bright purple mechs in bog

>>149318202
> the camos and crazy colors are a massive "please fuck my face"-sign now.

I agree. Stealth purple all the way.

Ideally I'd like there to be several saved camos that you can pick during the pre-drop screen.

>>149317230
I don't understand quoting the Steam stats. The game has been out for way longer than that and doesn't require anything else to play. Any steamcucks who wanted to got for some minimally viable robots could've just done it at any point in the past, it's not like the game was ported from a console to a PC or something when they released it on Steam.

The people who would only know of the game's existance when it's put on Steam probably aren't interested it anyway.

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>>149317630
I have to give it to you guys on that. You did enough damage shit post, false flag, astroturfing, and lying in /SCG/ that 4chan can't sustain one. Too bad you are so insignificant to the development of games that no dev or pubilsher wants, or needs you guys. Unlike 10bux where PGI had to butter them up to get their sheckels you are worthless.

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>>149319370
>this much butthurt in a single post

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>>149319497
How's that tournament working out?

>>149319965

Worst thing PGI ever did.

>>149321193
It's a pathetic attempt to try to stay relevant even though no one is paying attention outside of the electronic old men.

Newfag to this general and genre. What is this Kong and butthurt shit?

>>149324192
General shitposting that actually has little to nothing to do with the actual game, or the Kong unit.

>>149324192
The kong unit has existed before /vg/ existed as a board, and have singlehandedly been keeping the general alive for four years.

>>149324192
Kong is the MWO group of this general. Well, it's more than that since after 4 years it's turned into a social group and many don't play MWO at all anymore (not that they really post here) but yeah.

It would take too long to explain all the meaning of the shitposting that goes on here really. Just ignore it.

>>149323735
FUCK OFF CLAY AND TAKE RANCOR WITH YOU IM TIRED OF YOUR SHIT

>>149324319
>>149324457
>>149324465
Another general filled with shitposting, damn. Thanks for the replies guys, always good ones in there.

>>149324609
Welcome to 4chan.

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>it's a vass shoots you in the nuts and you pass out episode

>>149326484
Like the world, Why does it have to be this way!?

>>149327245
>blog posts
>avatar fags
>confirmed pedo
You deserved it.

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>>149324192
Just ignore it and enjoy the robots.

>>149327916
>HBS uses PGI models for their game
>HBS half way through their game PGI decides to unfuck the Catapult

>>149328023
I doubt HBS is using the cancer components. The rest of the old Catapult was fine really.

>>149328294
They aren't at all, just the base stuff. The catapult only mildly changed too, like the size of the ears. I still just find it funny.

Tell PGI how shit CW is next week.

https://mwomercs.com/news/2016/07/1600-announcing-faction-play-round-table

>>149329369
Kong isn't invited.

>>149329526
Everyone's invited.

>>149329723
pfff ahaha
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>149328023
Will their game even have a mechlab?
It doesn't sound like a great idea considering just how bad TT is if you actually allow customization.

>>149333439
Yes, it has a mech lab and customization.

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>>149333542
So in other words, I should get some popcorn ready for launch?

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World's strongest Nova

>>149334654
What's gonna be the issue?

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>>149334921
BTech grognards + multiplayer + customization = endless source of schadenfraude.

It doesn't matter if it's Mechwarrior or Battletech, there hasn't been a single instance of this not causing endless rivers of tears.

>>149335462
Eh. I guess it's a good thing that multiplayer is less than a secondary thing for HBS's game then.

>>149335696
True enough, even I look forward to the game.

I wonder if they're going to do anything with the enemies in the game.
Normal mechs vs customized ones is a pretty straightforward slaughter in the latter's favor in TT.
Perhaps a difficulty setting?

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>>149336130
Time shall tell.

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>>149336494
>mfw the game could become moddable.

>>149337242
They specifically said that modding wasn't something they were working on. That said, they released modding tools for their previous games so they might eventually get around to it.

>>149336494
>0-40kph in 40 sec

wut

>>149339473
Gee it's as if the thing is a one hundred ton bipedal machine the size of a building

Who here has a Kuroi Kiri and did you enjoy it? I cannot remember seeing a single one.

I've been satisfied so far with my brawlRoc since it came out but sometimes I look at the KK on smurfy and wonder if the gun-centric builds I could do on it would have been better.

>>149339965
Kuroi "My other ride's a Firestarter" Kiri

Is this star citizen?

>>149336130
Customized mechs would be a good way of distinguishing the player characters and main villains as hero units. If everyone else is in shitmechs it makes sense that an upstart bunch of mercs can pummel their way through larger numbers of House units.

I DO hope that there are some things that are locked. If they don't lock some equipment then there's not going to be a lot of reasons to have a large mech roster. Hardpoints matter in MWO because of the way the shooting mechanics work but in a strategy game a lot of mechs are going to meld together in what they can do.

>>149339841
40 seconds is completely beyond the pale though. 40 seconds is what you get if you were a rocket car trying to stop from several hundred KPH on an ice plain.

The Atlas must go 54 KPH in less 10 seconds because it must cross a full 5 hexes from a dead stop within those 10 seconds.

>>149339965
Kuroi Kiri is disappointing in the extreme.

It's best builds are either 4x LL, or 2xLPL 2xML. Slow as sin with those builds, but you aren't going to get speed AND damage on this chassis.
The Cicada does the 2xLPL 2xML but better, because they're not tied TO THE FUCKING RIDICULOUSLY LARGE AND FLIMSY NIGGER ARMS HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

Still managed to get 900 damage games out of it, but that requires your opponents to be blind, deaf and retarded.

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So /gerg/

the Crescent Hawks Inception and Revenge were single player.
Mechwarrior 1 was single player
Mechwarrior 2 was single player
Ghost Bears legacy and Mercenaries was single player.
Mechwarrior 3 and Pirates Moon was single player.
Mechwarrior 4 Vengeance, Black Knight, and mercenaries was single player.
Mechcommander 1 and 2 were single player.
Earthsiege, Earthsiege 2, and Starsiege were single player. Front mission took the star-crossed route of taking a great turn based tactics game and made it into clunky 3rd person action games and an MMO before outright dying.

Then there was a gap of a decade, and nobody seems willing to do a decent single player game of anything anymore.

Is there anything out there right now, barring the HBS title coming out in over a years' time, that will sate my want for an atmospheric Story-and-mission-driven, immersive, giant robot gaming experience? The modding community has done bupkis for single player gamers, most of the old stuff is horribly unstable on anything but legacy hardware running windows 95, and PGI are catering exclusively to the e-sports community. Honestly, if I want something multiplayer I'll just run some tabletop gaming, but what I want is something immersive, where I am pulled into the lore, not bullshit tier lists, Buffs/Nerfs, and K/D ratios.

Is there anything on the market, now, that hits the mark that I might have missed?

MFW: "Why would I want a memorable, immersive single player campaign with a story and an end goal to work towards when I can play this online Sisyphus' Deathmatch game that's about as immersive as the ingredients label on a water bottle."

Will hawken or MWO ever be good?

>>149343565
>Is there anything on the market, now, that hits the mark that I might have missed?

Anime.
Like literally, we're back in the 80s where the whole awesome idea of piloting a god-damn mech is something we can only dream about because there is absolutely no one willing to make games like that.

I mean, Titanfall 2 will have a SP component but I wouldn't go in expecting much in terms of giant robots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwbutTQ8Yow

>>149345068
Not really.
They'll stay fun games for a match or two but definitely nothing worth investing over 10 hours a month into.

>>149345068
No.

But that's less the fault of the devs, more the fault of the community that they target.

Something about the combination of "Online exclusive" and "Free to play" just brings out the worst kinds of e-sporters that sabotage the lot.

Is this the end of Kong?

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>>149327245

>Greg will NEVER own anything more expensive than leather and rusty iron knives.

Rip in piss, 24 poster thread. No robots forevermore.

>>149347095
I think it's just the genre being really niche and unpopular.

MWO isn't even that bad for a f2p game and people still don't want to play it. The masses don't care about giant robots these days.

>>149341527
>The Atlas must go 54 KPH in less 10 seconds because it must cross a full 5 hexes from a dead stop within those 10 seconds.
Can you NOT ruin yet another game because of retarded BT rules?

>>149356925
What?

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Anyone wanna play some guilty gear?

The new Bog is WORSE THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE

FOR FUCKS SAKE HOW

HOW ARE THE MAPS SO FUCKING GODDAMN BAD

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Eeeeeeyyyy

Even though I kinda wanted the extra keys and I've got a lot of bays, this isn't such a bad prize. Maybe I can squeeze in just one more chassis mastery into the roster now.

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>>149358695
>What?

I think he's referring to the fact that no matter how you slice it, Battletech is written and designed by a bunch of idiots.
Any and all arguments regarding lore like this should just be thrown out of the window, not used as an argument.

This isn't Gundam.

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>>149359360
>wants to play guilty gear
>sits in the meme channel

you have baited me for the last time, Vassahegou Dane

ded thread
ded robutts
ded kong.

>>149361547
The Atlas is designed to move 5 hexes every 10 seconds, or 54 KPH. This are its hard stats in the game. Are you just trying to be daft?

Assuming you are being offended about "0 to 40 KPH in 40 seconds", is this not a case of you imagining a game where your incredibly retarded headlore mixes with game mechanics?

>>149361079
>waa waa I hate everything new

Really starting to get pissed off at the increased "connecting" time after a match. Piggy fixed the loadout saving time but caused a worse problem in return.

>open one of the free caches with the free key
>100k cbills
fug

>>149371284
Hey, it's still twice the amount you would have gotten from just selling the cache.

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>>149365043

It never gets better, it only gets worse.

Always and forever.

>>149361185
I'll squeeze my chassis into your roster if you know what I mean

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>>149365043

>PGI.
>for real fixing anything.

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>no discord links

>>149376402

>No Norris ultimatum links.

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>>149352438
>Implying I need fancy equipment when I'm skilled more towards punching people in the nuts and throwing them across rooms

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>>149376402
>he uses discord

>>149361079
Are you retarded or just shitposting?

99% of the problems of bog were finally fixed and you're flailing about like a retard having a stroke.

>>149363674
I think you're both right.

I'd say that going an average 54kph in a 100 ton robot from a full stop in 10 seconds seems unusually fast and the opposite of "0 to 40kph in 40 seconds" seems exceptionally slow.

It's concept art people.

>>149380910

Is this a new grab deal spell?

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>2ppc meme summoner

>somehow assaults are nascaring ahead and the rest of the team is lagging behind
>get split up and fucked in the ass
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS TO PUT THROTTLE ON MAX AND FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN

They had one job, the job the fucking retards do every game like lemmings and they can't even do that.

>>149388940
See, this is what I don't understand about these PPC mememmoners;

You can put on 3x SRM4's with more than enough ammunition as far as backup weapons go and still have enough heatsinks and a targeting computer.

It's got close range and long range punch, without becoming a gauss sniper that gets neutered in a single aimed alpha strike.

Saw both AC4 & AC4A at the store today; which should I pick up?

>>149389503
More DHS are far better for sustained DPS considering poptarting destroys it due to no heat dissipation while jumping

>connecting
It takes so fucking long now, what the hell piggy.

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>>149389794

>>149389653
I just think that those builds have way too many heatsinks for just two c-ERPPCs.

>>149390586
Definitely don't, ERPPCs are hot as balls and the more you can fire them the better

Does Kong want to EDF?

>>149389527
Both really

ACFA is better though, so that, if you can only get one.

https://youtu.be/Ct9V1FwWRww

>muh lores

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>>149393119
>yfw you find out a Kingfisher is some tiny little neon colored faggot bird
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingfisher

Haven't felt this much disappointment since I found out what a nighthawk and a blackbird are.

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>>149393890

>>149395307
Some faggot that can't get over unseen redesigns.

>>149395307
It's showing the cockpit overlays over the normal chassis. The cockpit view is what you see while in the game.

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Never forget.

>>149395428
No, you fucking nigger, it's someone putting the 1st and 3rd person models into a 3d program to show people just how large the 1st person cockpits are in relation to the 3rd person model.

>>149398515
Things we knew 4 years ago

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>>149398515
:3
B-b-but the cockpits are correctly sized!
We all knew this! Dummy.

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I'm having mild pangs of regret for not grabbing Battletech swag pre-orders. Is something wrong with me?

>>149401474
The piggy disease still lingers within you.

>>149401474
The jacket looks pretty nice I guess but would you really wear it outside?

>>149402507
My wallet has no mouth and yet it must scream.

>>149405514
That particular set, no... probably never. Even the one with the banner, hat, key chains, and dog tags was excessive. But I didn't even grab the game or support the project at all. I feel like I might have missed out on supporting something, and at least getting something, like special camos for it I guess.

>>149406004
I grabbed the game. I feel like it was a decent deal and they reached every stretch goal they had.

>>149406203

Now go join Heffay's reddit sub where he moderates.

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What did Christ Roberts mean by this?

>>149409835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhwWAciO6F4

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>yfw it's been almost 4 years.

>>149406203
Same here. I pirated the shadowrun games and liked them so supporting battletech seemed like a reasonable move.

>>149412916

PGI is getting royalties from it. The game's success guarantees that Russ will keep getting his coke fix for years after his own shitty game's dead.

>>149323735
What a horribley disapoiting and sad King Krab

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It's a good day for someone else to die.

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>>149416748

Are you tired of life after robots?

>>149314118
same here

>>149413453
That is certainly not true. Microsoft owns all the mechwarrior creative assets produced under it's license, so only Microsoft is getting royalties.

>>149421575

>piggy maek robit design.
>durr, owned by microsoft!

Are you retarded?

>>149424116
>I don't understand how business contracts work so everyone else is a retard

>>149421575
I love how people keep perpetuating this.

>>149424339

I know. Vass has been told over and over again but you know he can't keep things straight anymore.

>>149421575
No. PGI has the full license for full control over digital MW media from Microsoft until 2020, at which point the license will need to be renewed from Microsoft again. PGI presently has full control and say so over anyone wanting to make any Mechwarrior, Battletch etc video game.

HBS did pay PGI money to use the art assets. PGI is not going to be receiving money from sales of the game however, and neither is Microsoft.

>>149426502
>Russ said he has to renew license in 2018

Just keep spreading lies I guess?

>>149426723
>I don't know what the actual agreement is and just proved it

The agreement is until 2020. If they don't meet certain expectations, the license can be pulled in 2018.

http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/145200-2013-state-of-the-inner-sphere/

"Whereas before our license ran out mid 2015 we are now ensured rights until mid-2018 and also if certain criteria is met will have until mid-2020 to continue to develop MechWarrior products including MWO."

Don't tell people they don't understand things when you don't yourself.

>>149427045
>Russ said he has to renew license in 2018

Thanks for proving me correct I guess?

>>149427470
That's not renewing the license, that's a (likely performance/sales/brand growth) clause in a contract you retard. If they don't meet expectations in 2018 they won't be able to renew it, because why the fuck would they be allowed to renew it if they weren't meeting the expectations to fulfill the full length of the contract? Do you have any idea how dumb what you just said was?

>>149427861
Just keep telling your lies, I don't even really care.

>>149427983
Okay.

Try thinking or reading up on the subject before parroting distilled, overly simplistic information you've read others posting next time and trying to play the smart man calling people dumbasses and liars.

You're literally Vass right now.

So basically, if they actually make money off these latest mech packs (which they did), and they make money off mech-con (which they will), and if people buy T-shirts, hats, and other "swag" crap PGI comes up with (God fucking KNOWS I will), AND people fall for the supply cache memes (don't underestimate this shit), then the PGI and by extension MWO WILL continue into 2020.

GG lads. We'll be playin' MWO well into the second Trump Administration, and Star Citizen will still be in Alpha. We might even get to watch Ben keel over on an Around the Verse episode.

>>149428384
We have no idea what the criteria for the full contract is, but it's probably a safe bet that if HBS's game is successful and PGI keeps making money, they'll keep the contract.

Remember that any amount of success of HBS's game looks very good on PGI as the license holder, since they approved its existence, even if they aren't earning money from it directly. Given the success of the kickstarter for BT which we then multiply by the amount of money PGI will make when they release the Bushwacker and Mad Cat Mark II, raise that exponentially by the amount of lore nerds that are going to jump onto BT because muh lore/TT even if they aren't playing MWO anymore...

Yeah, I would bet 2020. Then they'll get it renewed as HBS drops their third expansion pack and PGI implements Phase 4 of CW from the suggestions they'll be getting next week.

>>149428824
I'm not kidding about the gear thing either. The moment they start selling T-shits and stuff, my bank is going to ask if someone stole my card. I've been fucking dying for shirts or hats, or fuck anything, with the new mech designs on it. Autistic as that might sound or not.

>>149429396
They don't have the license to produce physical merchandise.

Microsoft can't even give them that.

TOPs owns that license, and they lease it out to Catalyst.

They can make stuff to give away, like HBS did for backer rewards, but they can't make a profit off of it.

>>149429597
Well... supposedly they're going to be selling them at Mech-con, so either they worked out an agreement somewhere, or they're just going to say "Mech-Con" and "PGI" only?

It's more likely they'll need to put their game on xbone to get that fat extension.

Piggy has only one game, so of course they'll keep milking it no matter what the state of their license is.

>>149431696
Also possible but recent trends make me doubt it. For one that's basically not a meetable criteria for PGI and MWO. For two they now are planning to push everything out on PC as well in the Xbone's future so I'm not sure it'd matter. Granted this contract was back in 2015 so that doesn't matter a ton I guess.

I find it far more likely it's a profitability/brand awareness clause more than anything still. I would say MWO would be a pretty hard game to get working on consoles, but executives really don't tend to know or care about things like that.

>>149432086

If it's anything related to profitability and brand awareness, they're already doomed.

>>149432587
Do you really think so?

PGI just hired people earlier this year and I can tell you right now the Kodiak and Unseen just sold a fuckload. Phoenix Hawks sold far more than they deserved to. The Night Gyr is going to have healthy sales too or I'll eat my hat.

PGI is definitely making money and to think otherwise is living in a fantasyland. If they were bleeding money they'd have downsized by now. Their steam player counts might be low but if they're half to a third of the playerbase then it's sitting alright for their 60~man team.

As for brand awareness, HBS's Battletech is diversifying the digital options. Don't think for a minute PGI hasn't been successful enough for what had otherwise been a dead and useless brand for a decade. They've gotten a lot of bad press for their (in)actions sure, but they've also shown the interest in the brand. HBS is going to reap the rewards from that, and both of them win in that case.

>>149433187

>let go of the whole production staff, including Jon, because there's nothing for them to do.
>hire 2 new artists and up the map team from 1 to 3.

Wow.

They're a 40~ man studio. You grealy overestimate how much money they have coming in and going out.

>>149433619
They've got more than 40. 60 is the most up to date number.

Karl Berg left for fucking Amazon, he wasn't let go. He found a better job. Jon never disclosed the nature of his departure but considering his quick turnaround to NuData I highly doubt it wasn't an upgrade for him.

People have been underestimating how much money they've been making for 3 years, and I also think you're overestimating how much of a return Microsoft expects to see from this shit.

>>149434419

Jon did disclose his reason for leaving. You're fucking not up to date. He left because his position was elminated. PGI has no need of a production staff because there's nothing being produced.

Soy made a post about this shit on outreacharound not long ago.

>>149434838
"I've felt this way ever since Jon Cunningham PM'd me over a year ago the day after realtalk came out and said he was leaving PGI for a new opportunity."

Thanks for making me dig up the quote to prove me right. It was Soy's own thoughts following that about their being nothing left to produce. Soy, the high as fuck retard who could hardly believe people actually cheated in online video games.

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You guys enjoying your robots?

>>149436462
YES VASS. I AM.
VIPER A FUN.

>>149436462

From what I see, it's like someone crossbred the (L)Cicada with the ACH. Really mobile, including jump capacity but packs a light-style arsenal of SPL/MGs.

They made sure it had one thing going for it, and that's being agile as fuck. It can't really snipe like a Shadow Cat or pack firepower like a Nova/SCH, but it plays the light-style game well enough that it can chase and bully all but the fastest.

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http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/233360-upcoming-faction-play-round-table/page__view__findpost__p__5307324

We get a mention. Can't wait for the gold men to force Russ to agree to some kind of retarded council structure that ends up involving all these 'pro' guilds somehow, at least until the next position change.

>>149437406
>top units of Tukayyid II
>Kong Interstellar Security
You helped us achieve that victory Vass! Our CW grinding was not in vain!

>>149437665

Obviously our superior farming is enough to guarantee myself, Kakos "Kong Hitler" Karlos Kaelus of Kong, commander Pizzacuck, warlord Whispers, and Charmander Harabeckie spots on the newly formed Council of Innersphere Management 2016, or CISM 16 for short.

>>149438091
I hate this chain of command structure.

is this the end of kong as we know it? found out on the next episode of dead general central.

>>149441305
it's ONE AM

>>149441780
Only for 1/24th of the planet.

>>149441967
For the third parts of the planet that matter it's late as fuck.

>>149442608
Well then come back to bed babe.

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>>149441780
>he lives on the west coast

Phoenix hawk good yet?

>>149443586
Good at making the Viper more appealing.

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Bombashill not upgraded from staff to developer, because he totally contributes a lot to the game.

In typical NGNG propaganda fashion, the new townhall is just like the old ones, so you're not allowed to ask anything worthwhile, and Bombashill with screen your shit like a hawk.

It's good that some things never change.

Never thought I'd see the day, but the re-scale of the mediums and the MASC buffs made the loyalty wolverine kinda sorta good for a skirmisher and brawler role...

Hunchback IIC, what engine sizes are good?

>>149457319
225, 255, 275

>>149457761
>left with half a ton of free space
god dammit
I could armor my legs but who the hell shoots there anyway

>>149458148
dunno what you're doing

>>149458148
Full leg armor for a medium is always helpful unless its the last 1-2 points. Stripping more leg armor for a ton of something else is also an option. Half ton of ammo is always worthwhile.

>>149458782
I have never been legged before I get stripped of my armor.
sadly im running the A so i dont have slots for shit

>>149458960
so what are you even doing?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=368&l=1d74ae910758817dccfb6ab87c7998e5fa2cc716

>>149459098
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=368&l=8a0bc20ab15246b393019e5ab70434e3e562d9eb

Weird ass shitbuild

>>149459284
>4 CLAN er larges

yeah okay.

>>149459375
I had fun running a 5 LL battlemaster, so I tried to replicate it

>>149459775
>fun
>clan erll
not with that burn time you're not

>>149459929
definitely enjoying the extra range though

I can now be part of the long range cancer

>>149459098
Looking at this makes you realize how fucked up the game mechanics are. That's basically the same armament for a laser build for clan heavies like the timber meme and even some assaults, on a medium.
>you chose to drop in a mech that's 25t heavier
>haha did you want to have more firepower on a considerably bigger mech, sorry that's not allowed because balance :^) even though matches are balanced by tonnage :^):^)

>quad UAC2's with a macro that fires at 1sec intervals

YES
E
S

>>149464117
1 millisecond*

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OH SHIT
FINALLY
CRUNK DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS

>>149462448
tbrs still have more armor and heatsinks

but yes the balance in this game is a big joke, especially with increased armor, reduced weapon recycle times, and subpar heatsinking

muh ttk
muh quirks
muh pooptarts

>>149465534
>tbrs still have more armor and heatsinks
And those don't even scale linearly, because the heatsinks suck ass, and the tbr has lower speed and mobility which makes the bigger raw armor value count for less.

>>149465534
>heatsinking

What?

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>>149437406
>you should speak with unit leaders
>Kong is on the leaderboard

So when do I get my phone call?

>>149445454
I don't really see any chance of PGI improving beyond the "Planetside" centuries long endless grind treadmill to capture dots on a map.

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>>149459284
>>149459775
>>149460458
I has been done before.

>>149469263
heatsinking

the process of sinking heat

there's no truedubs and the cooling rate hasn't been scaled to keep up with the upped armor and fire rates

also

>yfw clanners are the good guys
>trying to relclaim land from the treacherous hands of ISIS (Inner Sphere Islamic State) barbarians

>>149471084
>that old ass UI
Not with spoopy heat you wont

>>149472432
>yfw clanners are the good guys
They're even going against insurmountable odds and overpowered enemies like a true underdog. Green Turkeys are the heroes of the MWO show.