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/mbgg/ - Mobage General #581

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STILL SUMMER edition

This general is for discussing the less popular mobage (Mobile Games). Games whose /vg/ generals wouldn't last a day or two on their own and games that are not popular enough for their own general. Typically these are Japanese only games.

>For a full list of games played in the thread, read this:

http://ofo.jp/j/jKix

If looking for game recommendations or suggestions on what to play, please check the above docs. This docs is regularly updated with games and has all the games discussed on the thread.

>Help! The game I want to play is not available for download on the store:

Read this for information on how to find APKs or getting around region locks.

http://pastebin.com/Nsg98EEf

>Upcoming mobage doc
http://ofo.jp/j/h7Pt

Link to previous thread: >>149100242

Remember to REPORT and IGNORE shitposters instead of giving them the attention they want and helping them shit up the thread.
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This is Tia. She makes potions.
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>>149223048
Can she make babies? I need some ASAP
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First for 2nd turn draw two cards.

TWO CARDS
W
O

C
A
R
D
SECOND TURN
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>it's a little girl with wide hips game
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Post Mobage spats.
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2017
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Maintenance in Otogi?
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i72RkUsVyGk8 - An account with TWO (2) 3* Tachibanas

Please just leave me alone
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>>149224170
Don't bother unless it's a 4* account
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>>149224614
no
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Is shironeko going up in flames?

Why is colopl working on so many shitty games when they can literally survive just off of shironeko and focus on it instead of their shitty mh ripoff?
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How are you guys doing with your dailies in SV? For me it's

Easy mode:
Rune

Not too bad:
Haven

Depends on the opponent:
Sword
Shadow
Dragon

Difficult:
Blood

Just skip it:
Forest
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>>149223705
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Should I invest in more workers? I bought one so far but the price went up
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>>149224712
Stagnation is bad m8
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>>149224712
Colopl doesn't want to work on shironeko anymore but are forced to by investors
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>>149224712
They know it's better to no put all your pigs in one farm
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>>149224948
Yeah look how well that's turning out for them

Shironeko is dying more and more every month. Shit gets delayed left and right. Just look at their recent YouTube videos and people are furious
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>>149224748
Easy:
Shadow(main)
Sword
Dragon
Blood

Okay:
Haven
Forest

Never tried:
Rune

I've literally never played Rune in multiplayer and I have 2 Merlins.
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>>149224712
Shareholders want more money and if a company doesn't try to expand, it will stagnate.
Go ask /padg/ how dead pad is and how poorly bungho is doing. They even decided to instead pander to the little kid pokemans crowd with an entirely different game using monsters from pad.

And it's why colopl is using BGHS for idol pandering. Their VAs get to sing and maybe get picked up for something bigger and they sell extra merchandise and in-game outfits for it. Likely why shironeko is also getting music releases sung by their cuter characters but it's a little weirder for shironeko to be doing it.
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>>149224748
>Rune, Elf, Sword, Dragon
>Blood
>Shadow
>Haven
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>>149224836
Yes, buy them all as soon as you can.
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>>149225038
>look at twitter
>literally every reply is them calling colopl "god"
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HELLO? IVE BEEN WAITING TO BE ADDED TO THE GK GUILD BUT IF YOU GUYS DONT WANT ME FINE BE LIKE THAT
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>>149224836
If you mean in Shironeko, then absolutely.

There's tons to build and events keep adding more, you won't have to worry about running out of things to have them do for a long time.

More builders = more stuff built faster = bigger stat boosts.
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>>149225154
I'm not business savvy but does a company have to listen to its shareholders?
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>>149225354
name?
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>>149225661
bneutrn
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>>149225614
corporations have a legal obligation to make their stockholders as much money as possible
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>>149225378
>bigger stat boosts
Post town's biggest stat boost

Poke the icon of your flying island in the top right to see it.

>>149225614
They can vote to sue the company or replace the CEO or executives.
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>>149225732
accepted, the requests are always flooded so I don't know which ones are from mbgg unless you post it
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>>149225614
>>149225740

this is a really narrow way to think about it. the friedman model of corporate responsibilities doesn't transition into reality.

strictly speaking corporations prioritize shareholders but in reality they tend to equally balance the interest of both debt and equity holders.
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>>149225908
alright thanks.
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>>149225814
Jesus. Should I be focusing on the damage buildings then? I'm building inn, restaurant and 2 event buildings now
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Jagdpanther has really shitty slots for an ATG. I'll put some more gun rammers on the mod slots when I get them but hat the hell do I stick on her interior and exterior slots?
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>>149225932
Can't the company make a case that the shareholders' ideas are going to hurt the company in the long run? What are the benefits of having shareholders for companies?
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>>149226312
camo, unless you want her to get one shot

also whatever the targeting things are I forget, the gun-laying drives
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Did someone kick everyone from the HIT guild again?
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>That announcement in otogi
Fuck. Go claim 500 jewels.
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nJYpt33E2xPj - 3* Tachibana Namoi + 3* Asahina Nono
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>>149226481
Yes. Now we have a new leader and he's the only one with kick permission
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>>149226296
Eventually. I did spend a lot of halved-time upgrading the restaurant to 20 and the inn to ~29, and 4 gold mines to max to combine them. My usual is 3 on damage buildings and the rest on the event building or something else.

At the very least, make buildings for who you tend to main for coop.
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>try my 5.1.1 MEmu
>it works
>download data
>try to join a server
>crash
So close yet so far.
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I know my team sucks, but how did I lose?
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>>149225814
If we go by atk, Warrior's my highest since Institute buffs it a lot.

>>149226296
Inn is high priority until you have enough deck cost to comfortably fit a few strong characters. Ideally all 4 party slots, but you can do fine with 2-3 if you want to put off the rest for a while.

Events are also really high priority, just because they leave. More so if there's town missions for it, otherwise you can farm up all the runes and do the building later.

Restaurant I just got up enough for the first affection boost and then ignored. I'm getting more affection boost from event buildings, anyway.
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>>149225182
Responses to wcat_project's latest tweet
>That's it? At least bring back some old events like Douglas' and Shizuku's. Only an Island and half construction time for Anniversary event.
>There haven't been many free Jewels lately. Rather than reducing the amount of free Jewels, adjusting the cost for purchasing them would be a better solution.
>No Guaranteed 4* even though it's Anniversary. There haven't been many Jewels lately either. Hopefully things will change with Summer event.
>Don't have Jewels to spare for Weapon Gatcha with the reduce in free Jewels. It's hard to IAP when there's no guarantee that you'll get your money's worth.
Responses to HirokiAsai's latest tweet
>There's definitely going to be events other than Coop Reset today, right?
>Lowering the users' tension, frustrating them, disappointing them, are you trying to crush the game? And you still call yourself a producer? It's a shame that this is happening to a game I liked.
>Don't just retweet. Why don't you say something about all the new features announced that still haven't been released. I'm amazed at your lack of sense of danger for both your management and business administration. Or are you just going to forget about the matter like always despite mentioning them on the anniversary stream?
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>>149225814
>Post town's biggest stat boost
Dragon Rider too.
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>>149226561
The nerf is fucking shit though since the skeletons are still just as strong as ever and just completely shit on everything.
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>>149227162
The game sometimes misloads the enemy maiden team if your connection is shoddy. The stats and battle plays out correctly in the background, but you don't see their actual team right.

Sentry teams only have 4 tanks. So that's an actual defense team you're fighting. The game defaults to showing level 7 if it doesn't know what to actually show.
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I finally got the rod
>2 4* guns the first day
>2 4* spears the second day
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Metal Zone 7 in arena right now, time to use all your tickets
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Just hit 10 and sent a request to join the Otogi guild.
I'm the one with the level 27 Kanesada.
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>>149227780
Grats. I'm hoping I get a good rod user from next guarantees. Got some decent skills but no good passives
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>>149227885
Approved
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>tfw you die playing with Tina in coop
I feel ashamed of myself.

Also, why are there so many people trying to do the 12* divine dragons mission with unmaxed characters?
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>>149228098
>tfw dying to trash before tiamat but if I actually make it to him I usually survive the mission
The life of no shields
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>>149226356

that's one side of corporate dynamics. the modern corporation doesn't exist in an environment where management blindly follows the will of shareholders.

shareholders want dividends to be paid out. as a result they apply pressure on managers to make decisions that will lead to increases in retained earnings.

the problem is debt holders want the guarantee that they get the interest payments on their bonds. as a result, their bonds usually have times interest paid or other covenants built in. however this conflicts with interest of shareholders wanting dividends to be paid out as interest expense reduces net income and therefore reduces retained earnings.

i don't know much about colopl's corporate dynamics but i guarantee it isn't as simple people make it out to be.
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>>149224748
Easy:
Shadow (main)
Rune (earthrite is fun)

Not too bad:
Dragon
Sword (cheese)

Fuck no:
Everything else
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>>149226356
>>149228376

i forgot to add. the courts have generally held that corporations should prioritize "society" ahead of shareholders. obviously the problem with this definition is society also includes shareholders along with debt holders, special interest groups, your mom, etc.

as a result they've ruled that corporations should just do whatever results in the greatest benefit for shareholders contingent that the costs don't result in a net loss to society.

in simplification, this just means that everyone has clout, not just shareholders. so saying that shareholders have a right to sue is a bit naive and may be overstepping the boundaries of what is realistic.
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"Worse pack income than hearthstone" they said.
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>>149228376
>>149228605
Interesting thank you
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Is this good?

The Aurelia is animated.
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need help with shadowverse, downloaded with pureapk it doesn't give me the folder to put the cute jap voices
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>>149226356
>>149228376

most people believe in the idealistic world scenario that shareholders are entitled to a say in strategic direction, but what usually happens is they complain to the board which then tells management to put more emphasis on the demands of the shareholder.

in the real world, the purpose of a shareholder is there to raise capital. that's it really. you see on the news CEOs saying things like "we're going public so we can further expand our product and help more people" but what they're actually always thinking is "we need more capital and our bank won't extend us anymore credit until we're able to raise revenues above a predetermined threshold" or "fuck our cost of capital is really fucking high".

the public overemphasize the actual level of clout these glorified debt holders have on strategic decision making. yes, it's true shareholders are the technical owners of the firm but agency theory has largely disproved that shareholders really have any influence at all on anything (you'll just have to take my word on this because i can't be bothered to draw a payout matrix). in the grand scheme, corporate usually just sees shareholders as an annoying IOU that's hard to pay off. that's part of the reason why management is always so gungho about buying back treasury shares. shareholders voting off high level management members is really more of a pipe dream. skilled managers are not easy to find, they're pretty high up there on the endangered species list. if colopl's mangement team has gotten them this far, it's likely they're pretty skilled people.

tl;dr buying stock in a public company is a lot like a glorified ponzie scheme. you're usually guaranteed your dividend payments but that's about it.
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>>149229251

Might have to open und close the app first
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Does anyone here knows how Laffey's skill works?
Like, if her skill is level 3 the effects of lv. 1 and lv. 2 will still work or only the effects of the level 3?

If it is the latter which skill level is the best?
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>>149230140
It's accumulative, so all of them are active at level 3.
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>>149230256
Alright, thanks.
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>it replaced your existing armor
I didn't expect otherwise but somehow am still disappointed. Whatever man just gonna get carried in fights because I'm wearing this.
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>>149229216
what deck do you want to play? Merlin's pretty integral to runecraft and Aurelia's good in swordcraft , if you don't play either of those, the free dust from animated aurelia is good too.
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I wish I had animated Bellringer Angels.
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>>149227063
use nox
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Whens the last time they had a 50 gem present quest? Shironeko really is dying
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>>149229827
i did the only big file is the obb
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>Forgot to grind the transformation weapon map for more mats
Shit. Guess I'll have to wait for their next weapon gimmick before I can finish a transformation sword.

Also last half of the event is up.
Yuri, Nozomi, and Sakura get their Marine Wear, in that order.
>Twin Pistol Crystal
Rubbing it in for those who didn't get a Haruka. I wonder why they didn't do generic crystals.
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>People complained enough that the Special Ability Daemons were too strong that they got nerfed

Literally the first days into the event and most of them probably haven't seen how hard the later levels are supposed to be, are they retarded?
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Is that registration for Girl Frontline still a thing or i missed something?
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>>149230637
>>149229216
are you fking shitting me
you'd dust a shiny aurelia?
the fuck is wrong with you

even if you dont play swordcraft, fuck you for even suggesting that
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>>149232964
You can play it now. Follow the guide to register
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>gaining points in the otogi event
>literally dropping in ranks every time i beat the chick
Went from rank 9000 to 18000. Not sure what's going on.
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Playing against Forestcraft is TANOSHII
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>>149233301
How much space do you need to play that game?
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>>149224748
Easy Mode:
Control Blood
Purg Elves
SwordCraft(I cant get away from this craft. Foil aurelia and otohime and at one point I had 3 tsubaki)
Aggro Shadow

Depends on the Opponent:
Dragon

Never Tried:
Rune
Haven
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>>149234523
game file is like 150mb but it says to have like 350mb available
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Shironeko combat/dungeons/events but with BGHS style combat and models when
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Send help
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>>149234943
>BGHS style combat
The thing I hate most about bghs
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>>149235054
Playing with other people is the worst thing about Shironeko because of how laggy and unresponsive the combat is.
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>>149235135
I haven't gotten that problem before unless you mean when mobs aren't taking damage right before you dc from the host.
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>>149234956
That went well
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>>149220479
Money is the one thing I'm fine on. I can never seem to find a use for all the AP from those replenishes except for gold weekends. No character space issues and I can just let it auto and sell over and over while I eat dinner and watch anime.

Meanwhile I keep getting all these 2* mana gacha units taking up so much space. The collector in me wants to limit break and level and evolve, but trying to do that is slow and shitty thanks to all the limitations. Even getting them to 3* for a chance at skilling up a main character is a pain.

I think I'm going to have to just narrow it down to a few with skills for my mains and dump everything but a single copy optimal type of the rest. At least that way I can bank at least some evo mats and event character copies.
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Fuck
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>maintenance when I'm one win away from completing daily
FUCK SHIT GODDAMMIT CYGAMES
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Hardest: RNG
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>>149235054
Shironeko input is really wonky garbage that's never reliable when you need it to be.
>Do long press for action
>Here, how about you slowly move at the speed of nothing instead
>s1 is a dash but enemies are to the lower right to you, it won't be embarrassing at all wasting it on the corner in the wall
>Was that a flick? No it wasn't because you don't get enough frames between all the boss enemies' special effects and the three other players spamming shit that you can see despite turning that garbage off
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>>149235135
Shironeko's poorly optimized for Android, so it's clunky on anything other than the latest devices
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>gf apk requests my precise location by gps
Always surprised me. Why would anyone need that
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>>149236450

Can be disabled on most apps without any problems
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>13* Hero Coop has bonus drops from breaking parts
>Tina, Excellia, Farfalla, Noah
>Destroy head as Tina and Farfalla breaks torso
>Kite around waiting for Noah to break the boss' horn, she never does and immediately dies in the third stage
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>>149235676
I've never had this problem
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>>149236572
Yeah, I know, and emus can set my location to be in Antarktida for all I care, but that wasn't my question
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>battle champs finally gets its IP block lifted for my country
Is it even worth checking out anymore?
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>>149224748
Easy:
Sword, Shadow, Haven, Blood, Rune, Dragon.

Fuck:
Forest.
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Chirp chirp
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Warship Girls update 2.5.0 is out. Skill switch, new remodels, live2D and several UI adjustments.

Time to spend hours downloading 4600 files again.
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Otogi fixed the brute being so fucking strong
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>>149240123
Its time
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Which one is the VH bird for BGHS co-op to get gold badges? None of the banners look very bird-like besides the event one
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>>149240650
>Literal fucking mannequin down there
>Still censored
What the fuck you doing Japan
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Soon.
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>>149241883
Isn't the next pack update mid-September?
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>Every unique headpat phrase has skipped into a normal one today
Damnit. I definitely haven't heard some yet because there's not enough headpats available for everyone with swimsuits.
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>>149242134
This.
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>>149242280
August Large Update
>Main Story New Chapters
>2Pick, draft rule battles
>Cumulative BP Missions
>Card Sleeves/Leader Skins
No mention of new packs
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>>149242559
The rupies aren't being saved for new packs.
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>>149241883
>>149242559
Should I save my free packs/rupies/crystals for new packs? Or should I just spend them now?

I just started so I have nothing but a few swordcraft legendaries.
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Just the way I like my girls. With eyes.
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>>149243574
Eyes are overrated
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SB69's large update finished a couple of hours ago. One of the main features added was an avatar and personalized room.
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Worth keeping or should i dust for an ancient elf?
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>>149244198
Worth keeping.
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>>149244198
Unless you're fully committing to playing one or two crafts, hold onto any legendary unless its agreed that they universally suck (ie:Atomy). Each one can save you 3500 vials towards a deck you wanna craft in the future.
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>>149244623

I did dust a few legendaries already, but since my main deck is almost done I'll just hold onto her
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>>149226312
B/B/A + Composite Wedge + Flat-Top keep her alive very well.
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Rerolling for Michelle. Should I get idol or swimsuit?
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>>149245082
Mumi.
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>>149245082
The one you think is cuter
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>>149243331
If you're relatively new then just grab base set packs. Unless there's some unreal power creep the base set stuff should continue to be useful and probably still form the backbone of most decks for a few expansions to come.
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>>149245745
What should I spend on them? Reddit said to save crystals and rubies I think but use up the free card packs on the standard draw.
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>>149246094
>tfw you remember the times when it wasn't OK to openly admit that you're a redditor on 4chan
Truly reddit 1.5
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>>149245082
Just remember the golden rule, idols a shit.
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I have just noticed Uesaka Sumire voices her. Now I like her a lot more.
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>>149247169
Stupid looking weapons
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>>149226457
Doesn't she have more armor than T-34M and other tanky mediums, though?
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>>149246556
I was hoping /mbgg/ would be mature enough to help with my question.
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>chinks

http://a.4399.cn/game-id-97586.html
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>>149247502
Neat
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>>149246094
The pack redemption tickets are probably going to be only for standard packs so you can just use them there, but if I were you I'd just spend everything. Better to put a decent deck together now and get a solid base collection.
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>>149247502
What is this, Fighting Ladies Secondary School?
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>>149247502
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>>149248132
>2016
>antivirus
truly reddit
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>>149247169
>uesaka sumire
>double sickles
>not hammer and sickle
Missed opportunity.
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>>149244623
>Dusting Atomy

Did you mean Soul Dealer? Atomy is great.
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>>149249084
t. D0
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>wake up
>sword guy got nerfed in otogi
Wew, not sure if I can cheese until floor 80 now
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>>149247417
The T-34M is tanky because you stack of a bunch of armor plates on her, without them she gets blown up too. Anything without plates on is probably going to tank 2 hits, 3 if you're lucky from my experience
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>>149248132
>antivirus
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>>149249796
But I'm A3. Nice try though kiddo.
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>>149244623
>Atomy
>suck
just you watch atomy is going to be great again!
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Hay guise, I just applied for the Otogi guild. Leader is the titty monster.
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>>149250282
lol
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>Use a proper Dragon deck with Fortes and Zirnitras and Fafnirs
>Get beat nonstop on ranked
>Switch back to Satan cheese Dragon where there's only one Legendary and its Satan
>5 game winstreak in ranked
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Okay, tell me off for being ignorant or something if I am wrong

Is mobile Shadowverse going to link with the PC version? And does it have the same content with the Japanese version?
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>>149254182
They're all going to be the same thing.
Though I feel like they have seperate matchmaking between JP and EN. I almost always get matched up against JP players as Jp, even at times where they're mostly probably asleep.
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>>149254182
>Is mobile Shadowverse going to link with the PC version?
Probably, not sure if its confirmed
>And does it have the same content with the Japanese version?
yes
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>>149254342
I get paired with JP players as an EN player, as well. I assume it's just because they promote the game in Japan more than anywhere else.
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>>149254342
Now that you mention it, it's the same for me. I just assumed that the game was only popular in Japan.
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>>149254379
>>149254342
Oh great, does it work with Bluestacks? I would download it on my Android but man, 445 MB hurts and I am not amused that there is no way to move apps to SD card
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>>149254182
99% feels like playing against japanese or korean players

but I saw an UK and a switzerland player as well
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ftt.msleague_gl

Just for you kiddo
Don't ask me for apk
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>>149247471
Maybe you should leave then to be with other mature people like yourself. Everyone would be happy that way.
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>>149254789
yes it does
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>>149254789
It works on Bluestacks but it crashes a lot. Use a different emulator.
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>>149254789
Shadowverse is using obb system, mean that you can move the game to sd card without root.
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>>149258074
Thought that was just a memory problem since Bluestacks ate up ~2 GB RAM while Shadowverse is running
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>>149258242
If have 6gb+ ram you could try Nox
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I have no idea what I'm saving for
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>>149259273
2pick
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>>149247502
Eeeeeeeeh

I want to play it
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>>149259446
BGHS knockoff. Even deader than BGHS.
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>>149260497
it says here ur a faget
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QjkwENdLBiEc - 4* Saionji Rei + 3* someone else
5wtzX26i7Lb4 - 4* Orimiya Yui
CWQhbf4THSTb - 4* Hirose Koharu
JG7FWNaLGkPj - 3* Sylvia Richter
vEvNW3Z3iRws - 3* Sylvia Richter + 3* Orimiya Yui

These should all work, unless codes expire or I fucked something up
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>>149260870
BGHS over 1 million downloads
AG less than 5,000 downloads

She wants a bell around her neck.
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>>149261187
Go back to fapping to appannie and let people enjoy their games
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Looks like 3STA runs stop being effective from lvl61 and onwards.
>2 bows in back
>skelly brutes ignore sword dude attacking my back
Neat. 7sta/run, will solo some more.
Sutoku anon, any place in your guild, and have you started sharing your boss fights?
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>>149261187
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>>149261187
Comparing two games based on download count.
Comparing old game to game just released.
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>>149261305
I'm just preventing their suffering. They'll get attached to their girls and when the girls suddenly die and be unable to take it.
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Ignore that guy. He's obviously shitposting.
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>>149261698
The fact that's it's been 4 days and it hasn't passed at least 10k yet is a bad sign.
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The real problem with AG is that it is going to be too jewish
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>>149261974
>Already giving out two 4* gacha tickets
>Can get lucky and get them from the arena gacha

I doubt it's going to be that jewish.
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>>149261903
Pretty much. Anyone who jerks it to download counts or grossing ranks is just some idiot shitposting or baiting for replies.

I remember dismissing Age of Ishtaria because it had a sad amount of downloads after release but I ended up picking it up like a month later and that because a pretty huge FOTM with a really big account market.
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You are all dinguses
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>>149251432
Was asleep now awake.
Approved.
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>>149262073
and that BECAME a pretty huge FOTM with a really big account market.

That got fucked up for some reason.
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How big of a storage size i need to prepare for Shadowverse? Cleaning up and moving stuff around is a big pain in the ass
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>>149262125
>Eyes

Creepy.
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>>149262035
>two 4* gacha tickets

One from login, where's the other?
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>>149261403
>filename
Didn't expect to see this in mbgg
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>>149262512
Rank 10 in arena.
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>>149262512
I think you get one if you reach rank 10 from PvP
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>>149262415
It's the start of a surprised animation, not sure what you mean otherwise
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>>149262657
He probably means that one anon that has a graphic bug where the eyes are blank.
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>>149262389
It should be less than 1 GB but it'll probably get bigger over time I'd guess. Mine says 711mb but I don't know how accurate that is.
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>>149262714
Oh yeah duh

>>149262561
I actually forgot about that until you mentioned it, probably why I thought of it though subconsciously thanks to her name.
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>tfw still rerolling in AG
I really hate my autism some times
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>>149262729
Bah, part of me wonders about just waiting for the Steam version then. Freeing even 500mb was bad enough
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>>149262831
I found re-rolling to be quite relaxing, though I finally managed to get who I wanted before and stopped
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>>149262165
Thanks m8
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>>149262854
You can always you know, use an emulator.
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>>149263048
Best emulator if not Bluestacks? A few posts up some anons did say it had memory problems
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>>149263187
check the OP
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>>149263187
Nox or Memu
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>>149262831
There's nothing to do after you're literally at the best part of the game right now.
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>>149262035
Is there a time limit to the gacha tickets or can you just use them whenever? I'm not a fan of the current 4* outfits so I'd like to save them for when we get a new set.
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Applied to the guild in Otogi. Leader is Nue. I don't care if she sucks, she's cute
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>>149262035
Whats the second 4*, one is from the daily login

the only other free ticket I got was a 3* from story
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>>149263716
Approved.
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Aggro shadow by some AA0 guy

The Fighter there seems kind of ehhhhhhh
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>>149263931
see >>149262575
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>>149264104
Literally kill me I cant read, thank you
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>>149264059
And a Stall shadow deck he posted too.

Looks like you just stall with wards til Mordecai or Luci. Anyone have other top ranking Shadow decks?
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Don't mind me just posting the overpowered card in the game.
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>>149264232
>Mordecai
>No Urd
>>
Man I will be amused once Bahamut is in Shadowverse and he turns out to be similar to Deathwing
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>>149264337
Don't forget 4-cost revelation, ONE (1) cost Diabolic drain that deals 4 damage to something and heals you for two and a million of other bullshit cards blood has because Balance doesn't exist.
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>>149264337
>a card that costs 9 (nine) mana is not allowed to be strong
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>>149264996
It heals you for 5, damages the enemy (including leader) for 5 and then you have a 5/5 follower on the board. Yeah, sounds balanced.
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>>149264059
Seems good. I get why the fighter is there but there are probably better options depending on what you're playing against. Deadly widow despite being the same card except with text on it is a big fat waste of necromancy, so wight or spectre are better replacements. They are weaker than fighter against pinging classes like sword, forest, and rune, and poor in the aggro mirror, but in a slower meta with lots of ward they shine. Worth experimenting with.
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>>149264337
Cards that almost never get played.
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Think anybody can describe the Classes/Characters in Shadowverse in terms of Hearthstone Classes or MtG Colors?
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>>149265117
For 9 mana? Yes, it does. How much should that effect cost in your opinion?
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>>149265117
Sounds like this is your first card game if you think that's broken.
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>>149264482
Urd is nice and I'd probably try to at least fit it in that list as a 1-of, but I think that deck is mostly trying to focus on anti-aggro rather than mid late value. It has enough big guys that you will win eventually even without Urd being an occasionally awkward draw and poor tempo play in exchange for squeezing out a bit more value.

And besides, the real combo is Urd + Hell's Unleasher. Much more reasonable on the curve.
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Have anyone tried Innocent Bane?
It is something like Monster Strike with cute girls and guys.
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HIT guild leader here,
Do you guys wan't me to accept requests from randoms again?
I'll try to leave some spots for returning players but i think it's important to increase our player count.
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>>149265221
>Havencraft
Heavy control class, Control priest/Control warrior in HS
>Forestcraft
Combo reliant class, I guess you could say they are the miracle rogue of SV?
>Swordcraft
Zooish craft, they play like Paladins/Zoolock
>Runecraft
They are a control/combo class, they don't remind of anything in HS, maybe freeze mage
>Dragoncraft
Ramp class, basically Druid
Haven't played much with shadow and blood so I won't comment on them
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>>149265745
Yes when it first released. All of us already dropped it for various reasons.

>implying MS doesn't have cute girls
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>>149265745
>spoiler

Dropped before it even got picked up.
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posting this again for anyone that missed it last thread

girls frontline registration guide, no phone # required
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BfDZb_V1nIKGCdJTFmWmoucszKlwfl3GoGwl07iUI-U

game guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U35f7GUvjqKBICOFfQO7wuy2-4ovO9-LJUrV2l9LcpE

we are also on discord
https://discord.gg/JhA4ef2
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>>149265221
>Shadow
Aggro/Mid Shaman, B/G
>Rune
Miracle Rogue, Storm
>Blood
Handlock, B/W control
>Haven
Priest/Warrior, U/W
>Dragon
Combo Druid, Green ramp
>Sword
Aggro/Mid Hunter, Red
>Forest
Aggro Pally, White Weenie

A few crafts can also play path to purg which have similar Freeze Mage/Miracle like playstyles.
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What does crossblade charge attack do for shironeko?
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>>149266287
Is that so? Oh well.
It's... It's not like I wanted to play it with you guys.

>>149266313
I think you can also roll ugly stuff too, like monsters.
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>>149266815
Innocent Bane is shitoge. Mbgg dropped it back then.
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>>149266791
blink
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>>149267189
RIP:
Alice Order
Grimm Notes
Breath of Fire 6
Innocent Bane
.hack New world
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Not bad, now I can finally give use to the twin pistol user I have around.

And I also need to color some drawings too, hopefully I get the time I need for that.
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>>149267371
BOF 6 is on Madoka collab right now.
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>>149267415
I wish I got the normal gun since it's been my go-to weapon for a while now. Too many dupe chances now though
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>>149266032
Up to 40 should be fine, some people from here have probably already dropped it at this point, but more Kiki posting could possibly encourage otherwise. Or if they release more lewd costumes for Kiki.
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>>149267371
>RIP:
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Noob question, how do I transform the weapon?
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>>149268041
Hold a tap
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>>149268103
>Not voice controlled
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>>149268204
>nips screaming at phone and yelling "HARUKA CHANG TRASNFORM!!!!" on a train in front of a bunch of real JKs
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>>149268364
>transform
>not henshin
very disappointed at mbgg right now

>>149266032
You should.
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>>149264059
Trying out this deck and I find it really sad how it has all these 1-3 drops but all I get for several games is the 4+ drops as my starting hands. Why is this shit allowed?
>>
does anyone still need to do the friend code thing in AG? was I supposed to input a code during the account startup? My code is: TVBBZL
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>>149268480
>>149268364
>Not adding "Ima da !" after their names.
>>
Is there any info on who is getting a swimsuit version for summer event in Shironeko?
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>>149268679
You're supposed to make 10 alts yourself and insert that code on each of them
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>>149268679
what is this friend code thing?
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>>149267415
>+3 rolls
Roll gameplay enhanced.
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>Haruka's Girl's Link is gone
I feel like a big part of me just died.
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>>149269670
I miss it already. Haruka's babydoll summer costume was cute as fuck too
>>
Sakurako 4* - RMVrmdyZnCut
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>>149269670
Good, now I can put someone I actually like in her spot.
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I'm gonna marry Hinata!
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>>149262657
These models seem to move a lot more than bghs's thing.
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>>149269981
>Nico nico nii.
>>149270257
More than they should in my opinion.
>>
Is there a mod or cheat apk for shironeko anons?
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>>149270584
Rune story had hackers when I played it. I haven't seen any in shironeko though
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>>149227830
Time to get Nakabaslut Lamba's ass up to L90, only to realize I'm probably still better off running Kino-Kraken for that seemingly impossible and tiresome lucky punch against Shinen. Fuck those patient people who already cracked him.

I also commend MW humor to release Korin^ before Kino-Slugosaur. Compared to the times where you could unlock all new characters like a minute after dayroll, they REALLY don't want you to get your stuff right away now. Gonna be interesting to see who they're going to release after Korin - Shberdan or Daiana.
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>>149270584
Android republic has mods for almost every game
>>
Getting to rank 10 in arena is going to take forever
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How do I into Dragoncraft. I have all this shit, but I feel like it's really not working at all.
>>
HIT anons in the guild come do gvg
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>>149271141
Where's your Satan?

On a more serious note, I feel like these cards are questionable and may be cut:
>Flame Lizard
>Dragon Wings
>Golden Dragon's Den
>Dragonewt Princess
>Deathmist Dragon
>Serpent Wrath
It would also help if you post other cards you got.
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>>149268616
>Two more games
>1-2 4 drop starting hand
>Cursed soldier always in the first draws or starting hands

Holy shit please make it stop
>>
>try to get shadowverse on Nox
>'This item is not available in your region'

Wait what? It was installing fine on my phone
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>>149270232
What are you talking about? She is mine.
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>>149271392
3 people in, we need 2 more
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>>149273179
GVG is 3 people though?
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Are any of these still usable?
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>>149273273
Oh yeah I forgot it wasn't like the raids
Getting matched against the top guild sucks
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>>149273904
http://wiki.dengekionline.com/battlegirl/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E7%B7%8F%E5%90%88%E8%A9%95%E4%BE%A1%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%AD%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0
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>>149274042
>going by questionable tier lists
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>>149274250
>questionable
>colopl literally advertises dengeki in-game
If you don't want to be spoonfed then read the skills yourself and make your own decisions faggot
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>>149274320
>thinking I'm OP
>also not suggesting viability through animations and cute outfits
This guy
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>>149274598
You can use any outfit so it's not like it matters?
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>>149270257
It looks like they're using motion capture done by MMD but exaggerate it and don't clean it up for use.

>>149273904
You're fine, but your hammers are lacking.
>Missed swimsuit guarantees
You're going to be hurting
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>>149274903
When will they make more stupid broken cards like chuuulip mumi? I want that 100% skill damage
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>>149274903
>>149274042
Thanks, seems like the powercreep for BGHS isn't nearly as severe as Shironeko
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>>149275335
Yeah the difference is pretty weird.
>still viable cards months later
>weapon and character guarantees every set

>shironeko
>no character guarantees
>1% chance for 4* weapons and rarely any guarantees

Only thing shironeko has going for it is more events and content which good luck doing without the latest characters
>>
>draw Beast Dominator
Something just died
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>>149275563
>pulling free 1000 dust
I see no reason to complain.
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>Forest is overpowered

You were supposed to buff her Cygames, not nerf her because of a Neutral card.
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>>149275021
Doesn't happen anymore. Definitely not swimsuit Renge.
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>>149275563
I'm going to make a Beast Domonator deck. It'd basically be aggro Blood right?
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>>149276880
>Beast dominator
Why even bother
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Is there anyway to play on two devices without having to constantly input passwords on AG?
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>tfw you're in the middle of a combo animation in brawl and you see someone behind you ready to combo your ass once the animation finishes
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>>149277038
http://pastebin.com/D7zH71iy
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>>149277293
Sorry anon, I'm on about a different game.
Thanks anyway
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>>149277038
With root access to both, you could try copying that e8 file to both devices.
>>
>Evolve Hell unleasher and the enemy has no idea if he should kill it and spawn the lich or kill the other followers first.

I feel the same way with Aiela. Its hard to decide what to do when there's a evolved Aiela on the early turns and you really dont want to give the dragonscum more mana advantage.
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>>149277528
Same difference
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>>149276992
>mfw opponent underestimated my beast dominator and she gets to take 6hp off his face
Heh nothing personnel kiddo
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>>149277145
>tfw playing Kiki, the one with the shortest skill animations and lowest amount of superarmor frames
All these meleefuckers go into a half minute long combo the moment they get you.
>>
What does the buff from Floral Anko's skill do? Is it a good boss killer?
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>>149278042
A lot of their skills are multi hit too so you can't just use one dodge like you can for kiki's stuff. But that's to balance out how slippery and ranged kiki is I suppose.
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>>149277530
Doesn't seem to work, sadly. Oh well, looks much better on my phone.
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>>149278042
I just sit there nude and let them have their way with me. Every pvp or brawl has some guy with monstrous stats over everyone else so what's the point besides the daily.
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>>149278569
I can't even tell if she's slippery when every melee seems to have a full screen lunge on the start of their basic attack.
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>>149277038
How did you actually tie the data to an account, did I miss a button
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>>149278952
Well I normally don't get caught until the first hit. If I get caught by something I spam the barrier explosion to get superarmor and try to spam teleport out if I'm not being movement blocked
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Flora guarantees on the 26th

meh...
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>>149279354
Fucking again?
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>>149279773
And test with year restrictions
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>>149279773
It isn't much of an issue if it's simply a transition guarantee during senbatsu
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>>149279862
I've been starting to realize that I have way too many cards of one character, but zero of others. Literally have no Yuri, Nozomi, Kaede, Sakura or Hinata cards. Around the 8 range with everyone else though.
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>>149280196
Like 40% of my cards are just gun characters and lots of Anko/Yuri. I just want a 4* mumi or sakura...
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>>149280318
Guess the trade in ones are out of the question? These flora returns keep tempting me into trying for her battle outfit. Feels wrong to not have it.
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>>149280512
Damn I'm jealous. I don't have enough dupe stones to trade-in yet but I might do it eventually. My highest character is only 55 though so getting a level 70 might be more useful
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>>149275517
>>1% chance for 4* weapons and rarely any guarantees
>Rolls 5 in twenty weapons.
>Have gotten 4*s in two rolls twice.
So. Your luck that bad?
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>>149280853
Seeing how it took me 900 gems to get 1 4* to get the last one I needed for chaguma motif trade in, yes.
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>>149279354
Wish they'd deliver a story addition fully voiced instead of doing the old ones.

>>149279773
They didn't add anyone.
But it'll be good for newer players who don't have anyone from flora. I kinda want the two blade cannons since I only have utility for those, and more oppai flora but fuck the odds. My gem supply hasn't recovered from not completing island set either.

>>149280196
Most I have of anyone is 9 with a lot of 7s. Excluding the new girls, I have the least of Subaru and I didn't get a Sadone until onsen.
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>>149280823
Yeah, you'll be rolling in dupe crystals against your will once you play long enough. There's no rush to get the outfits
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>>149279354
Are flora cards even that good?
I have Anko and Haruka but never use them.
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>>149281148
Urara and Nozomi were pretty good but don't know how they hold up now
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>Make cheap aggro blood deck for dailies
>Think its going to suck and that I'll have to go back to using the default if i want to finish this
>End up having tons of fun with it and rush the fuck out of people

I'm having so much fun with this that I want to work on blood for my next deck. The cards are cute too.
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>>149281148
Many of them have pretty good high damage friendship skills. Good base stats generally. Skills that are strong against certain mobs which can be pretty useful against those tanky boss test stages
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>>149281148
Renge, Sakura, and Hinata are the best pulls.
The girls that give affinity or have an affinity attack are nice to have since they melt bosses.
Michelle might have some utility in tougher coop to keep everyone alive.
I think both Shiho and idol Kanon are good too.

I mostly like flora's style of outfits.
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>>149280196
I think having tons of cards for a few characters and barely any of others is pretty normal.

>New set with my favorite girls! Time to roll lots of gems!
>New set with my least favorite girls? Maybe I'll save my gems.

A lot of my gem usage tends to come down to "Is Anko in this set?"
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>>149281907
Anko's ankos in swimsuit art
umph
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>>149277145
>in a cluster fuck battle in brawl with a bunch of people
>get knocked outside of the fight with half health
>everyone turns and focus on me since I have the lowest health out of the rest
>stunned chained into oblivion
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>>149281805
They really are aesthetically pleasing
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Why would you sink the Saru's?
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What are the mechanics of that new soul of knights boss? My SP is getting depleted. The boss otherwise doesn't seem to do much?
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I'm still laughing at the Forestcucks that are getting nerfed because of a neutral card.
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>>149281148
The Flora cards are holographic. That makes them already better than everything else. Also the outfits are nice for Transform.
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>>149284105
Angel set is better for henshin.
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>>149284036
The crystals. Use a mage to destroy them. Should break in roughly three attacks, using Ruushe can break it in one though. You can co-op the fight as well if you need help/want to speed up farming runes.
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>>149259273
If you want to do lots of arena saving is good, but I don't know if saving that much is entirely necessary unless you already have a fully functional Ranked deck.
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Some BGHS questions
1) Do I just need the posters up in my room to get the bonus drops in co-op or does it only work if the girl is in room and I control her in co-op?

2) If I have the weekend trophy in my room but only Asuha is in the same room as it, would everyone in my party get the bonus if Asuha is in the party or only her?
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>tfw when your second legendary weapon is stronger than your first one.
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Thanks for the AG 4* Tachibana anon. She's a cutie.
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>>149288545
It's not like it matters which is stronger, you're going to be synthesizing both to get an immortal eventually. It would take months of gem grinding to ever promote a legendary.
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I like it. Doubt they'll make a Live2D for every ship, so maybe it'll be for costumes or remodel only.
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>>149270890

Hopefully Daiana
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>>149289195
You're welcome, my friend
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>dusted my animated Lucifer
Was that a mistake? Y/N
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>>149290246
It's a good start, though her proportions look off and I'm not the biggest Helena fan. Hopefully the others look closer to Oyodo
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Judah is on Rank 3 now. Sasuga Valiant. What surprised me is how Clive makes it to top 10.
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>>149290678
Lucifer is pretty useful for a ton of decks so yeah, that was a horrible mistake.
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>>149290678
gg uninstall
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>>149290893
>Pull two rupee packs after posting this
>Draw animated Luci

Thank you RNG, I wont make the same mistake as that anon.
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>>149290678
God damn you're a retard
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>>149284347
>Not having everyone transform into kimono

>>149287396
Everything with the midnight swimming poster needs to be aligned. The girl you use in coop needs to have her poster in her room.

The trophy bonus applies to the activities she's part of. It does not stack if you put 3 girls in the same room and in the same team, but all 3 can apply the bonus.
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>>149291375
You can pick what costume you transform into?
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>>149231436
not that anon, but I tried Nox and BlueStack. both crashes on loading
could you write some step by step guide how to setup girls frontline in Nox?
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>>149291580
I think it's a general issue that GF crashes on all emulators, doesn't work on Leapdroid either and I doubt Nox works
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>>149291535
Yes, change someone's outfit from party set-up but make the curtain background blue.
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>>149290246
>tfw Thai servers.

I'm not even mad.
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Alternate Joan when?

How far have you reached in Otogi, any
good pulls? Guild leader, still waiting on >>149261365 answer.
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>>149290246
Come on chinks get your shit together and release that English version already
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How to git gut on Girl Frontline?
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>>149294780
grind more
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Floor 51 in otogi, those skeleton healing are a pain in the ass. They should've waited and changed the multiplier for the next events
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>>149295745
It really was a poor decision, you don't just go halving the damage of the event daemons that are supposed to carry you through the event on the first day, let alone in the game's very first event when most people don't have fully developed teams.

Even back in Ayakashi the early stages of it's conquest events were supposed to be easy shit until you reached the latter stages around 80 or so when the boss would just start wrecking you unless you started using items or had event daemons.
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>>149294573
Yes the guild still has plenty of space.
Sorry for the late reply was busy.
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This guy slaps sola on the ass what do you do?
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>>149296931
Pay it no heed, Mira was a better support.
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>>149297227
Ah I see a man of good taste
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>>149297474
I mean there's that, and the fact that Sola literally gets you killed in the beginning of the game and is straight up useless for the entire story.

It's a shame we'll never see Mira again considering how they even changed Shuten-Douji from her best girl Ayakashi version to a guy. Neither that red haired girl who bribed me into selling 5*s for golden apples to buy better 5*s off her.
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They need to fix that 3 cost 2/2 havencraft ward. It says in the fucking text -1 from enemy followers. Sylvian justice only does one damage to it
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>>149290678
You're a mistake.
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>>149256638
Thanks nig

Will there be a wipe?
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Help
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>>149276880
I give up.
I have 3 Soul Dealer, 3 Beast Dominator, and 3 Vampire Queen to play with and I still can't make it work.
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>>149299525
Well six out of those nine are shit.
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>>149298925
Uh, no. It says subtract 1 from any damage.
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>>149298925
>During the opponent's turn, subtract 1 from any damage dealt to this follower.
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>>149298925
One more guy that cant read card effects
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I love nimbus her speed boosts are crazy.
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>>149299015
wat game? I can't open the link above. Not found.
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I play Marvel Avengers Academy, that Simpsons Tapped out style game. With their big spiderman event, and comic con going on, I got 40 dollars in ios cards in anticipation of getting good shit.

Turns out Tinyco went full retard making shit unplayable, except for megawhales.

Since I don't trust the app store ratings, or the shitty blogs, I've come to you guys for suggestions on what games to try. A little IAP action is obviously OK, but I'm not going to put up with stupid bullshit.

Any suggestions?.
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>>149301314
Read the OP.
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>>149301314
>Any suggestions?.

Yeah, read the OP like someone with a brain.
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>>149276880
>>149299525
Beast Dominator would be slightly useful if the meta had a large amount of 4/5 mana cost followers that dropped with large stats on a single body and are immune to removal to boot.

Shadowverse does not have such a meta. Frankly, Beast Dominator is just a crap card.

Cost 5 followers generally get 6 to 9 stats and some positive effect to go along with it. Goblinmount Demon gets 10 stats and has ward, but also damages your board to balance it out. However, even all 9 stat 5 cost cards get purely positive effects.

Beast Dominator gets 3 extra stats for detrimental effects. Also, if she is not evolved the turn she comes out, then effectively it is only 1 extra stat by the next turn since she doesn't have storm. She also damages yourself for no gain besides putting yourself close to vengeance.

>>149301314
We have a fucking Doc in the OP, nincompoop.
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>>149301314
>City building games.
That's going to be hard since I don't think anyone here talks about city builders.
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>>149301014
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>>149301884
>city builders
Shironeko
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>>149301884
Or western games.
But it looks like he's physically unable to read so he wont last long here anyway.
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>>149301314
battle champs just released globally
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Do you think it's worthwhile to buy energy to draw characters on Terra Battle?

I tried it a few times and I got all junk. But there's some characters I'd really like to get.
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>>149302682
No.
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>>149299403
Do you love her, anon?
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So how do battle girls work? Are they not impervious to injury or at least ordinary wounds when not using powers? Considering that they can be battling in pretty much any outfit, what point is there in sensei trying to protect the girls in any way?
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>>149302682
No. I am trying to get Sayu and I got multiple Korin instead, like 7 or more in 20 rolls.
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3 hours until I waste 8 million silver.
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>>149303230

The rates just seem so bad, to impossible to get what you want I guess
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>>149302682
It's worth it, if you refund
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>Try to save up 4mil silver for BWMG level 2
>Constantly get attacked and lose all my silver
>Don't have good tanks to defend myself

Help.
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>>149302958
What does Anko's spats smells like?
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>>149298925
>mfw in D0 and everyone I play against messes up their value trades/lethals against this card every fucking time
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>>149301367
>>149301390
>>149301417
I'm obviously looking at the top 4 on the list. I'm clearly a retard, if buying IAP money wasn't proof enough, but i'm not THAT dumb. I want to hear it straight from the players about what's so awesome that it will make my pants explode.


>>149301884
Not limited to genre.

>>149302102
I'm primarily asking because I'm sitting on an itchy pile of western IAP dollars that, last I checked, I couldn't easily move. But if there's something worth burning down the house for, I'll make a JP itunes account.


>>149302682
Can you answer what your desired outcome would be? I don't think it makes sense personally, but I don't care enough for the game to need super specific characters, or be competitive at VS mode.
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>>149303550
>not leaving your account on
>not using corn to get silver
>using a defense team at all
There is so much wrong with you.
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>>149303734
>D0
>People are bad

Shocking. People still screw up all the time all the way up into AA0.
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>>149303639
Depends how recently she showered. Either a slightly scented body cream or sweat and discharge.
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>>149303870
I'll kill my phone if I leave the game on.
And I was told by you guys to save corn for events and pizza and maybe mats.

Help.
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>>149303550
You should still be making way more silver than you're losing unless you're cancelling radio silence every time you get 10 diesel, I don't know how you're fucking it up
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>>149303925
I just find it funny, that's all. I'm a shitter myself but I at least try to read all the card descriptions that come into play.
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>>149303957
She's Japanese so at least twice a day.
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HIT guys wanna play gvg?
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>rune purgatory
>shadow purgatory
>in unranked
I'm so fucking close to dropping sv
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>>149304197
Rune and Shadow purgatory isn't anything new.
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>>149303740
Best mobile game ever exist (in other words, Kamige):
Shironeko
Filled with Qt Powercreeper girls and a lot of events that can give you free gems.
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>>149304472
Shironeko is awful. I'd sooner play BGHS than Shironeko.
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>>149303972
Use your corn to get what you need at the moment, events are like every 3 months and that is on the chink server, you will get more corn than you can casually spent.
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>>149302682
Generally speaking it's always been possible to do pretty well without spending in TB, due to a lot of lower classed units being pretty good or recodable, while the game offers free Energy from login and challenges that usually sums up to 50 before the next "Roll 10 at once, get 2 guaranteed S or up." events. The recent trend of high-end events kinda pisses on that status quo though, seeing how tap-moves have absolutely mauled the previous meta and MW somehow thinks bosses like Shinen and Mutoh are challenging and fairly balanced instead of complete bullshit.

If we want to compare the classic "10 at once, 2 S+ guaranteed" to the currently more regular "rates up and guaranteed + for featured units" events, then it's highly notable that the rates for at least the Z-classes definitely feel like they're only increased by Gumi-tier amounts (2% or maybe 3% instead of 1%?). Usually you have to sink the same 50 Energy into these events to get comparable results to the classic fests and even then a Z-class is far from guaranteed. Especially with pools like the current one, which feature an A-class, you're bound to see that the lowest rarity is infinitely more common than the rare ones and results are likely to be far worse than in the 2S+ events overall. If you want to spend on those, you better get ready for your desire sensor fucking you.
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>>149304559
Majority of Japanese poeple don't agree with you as evidenced by Appannie top grossing meme.
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>>149304197
>losing to purgatory
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>>149302958
I think it's an awareness thing. If they're doing normal stuff they're still subject to normal harm. And it seems that being focused for a fight is exhausting so they can't just be at the ready all the time, even though fights seem to go on for hours.

Sensei is there to help them deal with situations they're not accustomed to, since they're still learning. Nearly all of them have a 'if we get stranded on this island' line from their swimsuits.
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The difficulty jump in 50+ is really astonishing.
The damn brutes are far more annoying than Mikael herself.
recently been trying momotaro for his high single target ability but I may switch over to ardamelch or sutoku for their aoe and higher base attack.
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>>149305119
Yeah. Fate/Grand Order and Granblue Fantasy are masterpieces.
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Why in the world is pvp ranking shared in HIT. My alt is nowhere near geared to fight the people my main were
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>Mikhael fell in love with Jeanne
>it was her the one giving her advice when she was alive, not god
>it was me all along, it was all me
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>>149305148
Here's your (You) lad treasure it.
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>>149305445
you don't lose points for losing though so it doesn't really matter
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>>149305553
im serious you shouldnt be losing to purgatory decks im not even joking
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https://youtu.be/kujo7V9m0gk
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>>149305681
Well how do you stop someone who drops down 2 purgatory on the turn that they hit 30 shadows with do you have two executions saved up.

Inb4 >just kill him first
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>>149306028
>Inb4 >just kill him first
Stop playing control or midrange and learn to play aggro/zoo.
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>>149306028
You seriously just kill them first. If you're using a slow deck you deserve to lose especially if you aren't running amulet removals.
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Can someone test solo Princess Saho + Kuji friend at floors 60+?
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Does leveling up the ex soul board give stats? I'm on island 3 and it'll take a bit to get to 5
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>>149307068
Not enough for you to be worried about with where you're at.
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>>149306143
>>149306278
>stop playing my entire deck just to counter one card
Good idea thanks guys I'll take it into consideration. Let me just pump some more money into this game so I can trash my current deck to make a new aggro one.
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>>149306028
>playing slow decks without removal
>playing fast decks that aren't explosive
The guy is either trying to cycle cards and not hurting you or stalling, unless it's a fairy with a backup rhinoceroach
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>>149307068
It gives stats to whoever has the tablet equipped. It isn't something you should pay much mind to if you're fairly new, because the rune costs to level it is huge.
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>>149307360
>playing slow deck without removals
Maybe you missed the part where I said he propped down the two purgatorys together on the turn that he hit 30 shadows.

Also I have 2 executions in my deck and one on hand.
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>>149307360
>without removal
It's not really an option. Removal or not, about 90% of the time, you've already lost as soon as they throw down that first Purgatory with 30 shadows.

Sure you can remove the purgatory the next turn, but it's already cleared your board and dealt 30% of your health total in damage.
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>>149307424
I'm actually nearing the limit for 9.9k runes which is why I was asking. I needed something to dump them
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>>149307360
>slow decks without removal
Removal doesn't mean shit when they can get 30 shadows and cycle into both purgs by turn 8
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>>149307657
Every turn before it is actually kind of important unless you're spellcraft, a different kind of combo deck

That thing over there is his win conditon, just like how a dragon deck might slam out a Genesis dragon when you have 10 hp

You deal with any deadly fast win condition by whipping out something really fast before or after the turn while you are still alive, or by getting him dead before that

In the case of Genesis dragon even if he isn't dead yet if he has low hp and you have board he has to run it in. Purgatory isn't as nice, but there are ways to kill them fast even if you aren't sword

Why don't you start by telling me what deck you have
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>>149306028
You ask yourself why you didn't just execution those Harvest Festivals.
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>>149308825
fuck you Cygames
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Did I do good? Unpacked her in the 11 first packs
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>>149305481
Gaaaaay.
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>>149308628
Control blood. By the time I realized what he's up to it was too late and I win most of my games in the late game anyway.

>>149308825
Nigga it was against a rune player. Also who does that seriously.

>losing to rune purgatory
Preemptive fuck you I hope it happens to you to.

Feelsbadman.jpg
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>>149309086
She's okay but you could just reroll until you get her plus more Sword legendaries. It would save you a lot of dust
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>>149309086
aim for 2+ good legendaries from the craft you want
>>149309284
>Feelsbadman.jpg
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>>149309392
>>149309319
Time to reroll then? Shadowverse didnt have a lot of data to download if you clear data from the app I guess

Hm, wonder why it never occurred to me to reroll in Hearthstone anyway. Probably because its a pain in the ass
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>>149309824
You should definitely reroll.

You don't even have to redownload it. There's a button on the title screen to clear the cache. When you get a roll you like, you can link your account to gmail or facebook or something.
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>>149309284
>By the time I realized what he's up to it was too late
That's probably the bigger part of the issue, and can really apply to several deck variants honestly.
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>>149309284
Well shit, I don't know much about control blood

Is he just not hitting you toward vengeance before it's too late or are your win cons things like temptress vampire and Alucard which come right around the time his cards do?

Post deck
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>>149307360
>Guy Altered Fates and shuffles his hand
>Finishes me by dumping a 3 roach combo
He should buy some lottery tickets because GETTING THREE ROACHES IN YOUR HAND AFTER A SHUFFLE is some lucky-ass bullshit.
>>
How decent is runecraft to invest in? I'm a pretty big fan of combo decks and it seems similar to rogue, specifically miracle rogue from my hearthstone days. I have a Merlin and around 9000 vials saved up from dailies and extras, but no primary deck yet.
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>>149310246
>are your win cons things like temptress vampire and Alucard which come right around the time his cards do?
This.

>Post deck
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>>149311001
>Beast dominator
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>>149311050
1v1 me faget
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>>149310859
As far as I can tell this deck can deal with some control even though it is pointed against creature heavy decks

You might be able to work on a faster clock with shit like razory claw and other cards that allow for direct burn

But since I don't pilot control blood I can't tell you what to replace, you have to find cards that you have to hold forever instead of making a tempo play for or are simply not putting in enough work

If you're really reaching out look for "win more" cards that don't help you win
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I don't know what should I do here, and google is not helping either
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>>149312158
Get hit less.
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>>149310859
Rune is in a terrible spot right now, because you get fucked by fast decks and Sword is really popular right now. Also, Rune isn't really the combo class, Forest is.
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>>149312158
https://translate.google.com/

Select Japanese, turn on handwritting and start drawing moonrunes. Google's OCR is pretty good even if you're shit at drawing.
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>>149312158
http://pastebin.com/kn4JSwkN
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>>149311946
Or even cards that are good but you have too much of or are awkward to play
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Part of me wonders if Shadowverse is going to split up to its own general, most of the talk here is definitely Shadowverse I see

>>149309993
I wonder how long will it take before I can get two or more legendaries. Eh, I wouldnt know

>>149312364
Is there a meta tier list or an approximation?
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>>149311946
>>149312589
This was supposed to be for
>>149311001

>>149310859
Runecraft control with combo cards in hand was once considered top tier but eventually fell out of favor

Golem was always considered an inferior way to play, but I'm working on a hybrid that might have good results because golem cards are also spells
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>>149312469
>>149312390
>>149312351
Thank you guys, have a cute excellia
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Gimme a list of trash legendaries in SV, i want to know what i can liquefy
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>>149312663
>Tier 1
Midrange Sword
Midrange Shadow
Aggro Shadow
Satan Haven
Satan Dragon
Purgatory Forest
Control Blood

You have a good matchup against blood, and a 50/50 against the satans decks, but you pretty much lose to any aggro/sword/purg elf deck, and that's 70% of the ladder right now
>>
When is the right time to stop rerolling in Shadowverse? When you have two Legendaries you can use in a single craft?

I got Cerberus and Tsubaki this time...if I got Aurelia in that same pack that means I'd have to go Sword
>>
How is Satan okay but Harvest Festival isn't
>>
>>149302037
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ftt.msleague_gl
>not available in my country

Heh, how am I supposed to download this game?
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Soon.
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>>149314346
Hey there, welcome to /mbgg/.
Please read the OP.

Have a Mamuru as a Welcoming gift.
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>>149294573
I feel like I've done pretty good for myself I've drawn 2 five stars and gryphon which will be good for farming later thanks to his passive.

as for the event I'm at like 57 but, I've been pretty lazy.

If you're still interested the guild is Southern Cross and we have like 4 spots left and more after I level the guild more.
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>>149314431
the booty always seems a bit disproportionate
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>>149314346
Apk sites. Next time, read the OP.
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>>149315203
Already did that you fucking nigger.
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>>149315389
yes, that's why you made a stupid question.
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>>149313469
>Midrange sword
>Midrange shadow

I dont know. Im having a shit time with mid sword/shadow but its very easy to shit on people using Aggro shadow or Aggro sword because the RNG for starting card draws can and will fuck you over.
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>>149315716
Earth rite Rune/Hybrid Rune doesn't have a terrible matchup against Sword, but you'll lose the control/purg matchups.
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>>149315890
I usually win my matchups against Earth rite rune, I don't think I have ever lost to one. The golems are really easy to break and I find it really easy to slam the enemy if I'm using a decent/real deck.

Could be bad for me if i'm playing Aggro sword and get fucked with the draws but Mid sword and aggro/mid shadow should be able to make earth rune players cry.
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>>149314535
Where'd you get Momotaro?
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>>149316352
Complete chapter 8 and you get 1 free copy then he's added to the summon pool.
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>>149316309
They do. I'm a rune player and I always switch to elf cancer when I see alot of sword/shadow players
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Which legendaries should I look out for?

This time I got Aurelia, Atomy and Pluto, I could go Shadowverse if I want to but I am not sure about that
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>>149312663
>Part of me wonders if Shadowverse is going to split up to its own general, most of the talk here is definitely Shadowverse I see

Shadowverse isn't that dominating as previous games that have gotten its own general but it might split off when steam version comes and PC people and /v/ people start pouring in.

I don't know if anyone thinks the same way I do but in the case it does split in the future, it would be better if someone set up a discord/IRC/anything to discuss the game because threads that split off from /mbgg/ aren't exactly the best place to discuss things and usually end up as lawless wastelands where everyone memes and shitposts all day without ever discussing anything and I enjoy talking about this game with /mbgg/. I think a IRC channel exists but its currently unused.
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>>149316891
You should try the classes first to see which ones you like the most, then reroll for those. Atomy and Pluto aren't used often in shadow, you'd want 3x Cerberus.
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>>149316891
Here's a tier list. https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/21126

When rerolling you usually just want to find a couple you'll actually use. 2+ of the same craft, since you can't really afford to build multiple decks for a while unless you spend that cash
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>>149313469

Is Satan dragon much better than a mid-range dragon? I ended up with multiple copies of each of the dragoncraft legends, but would it be better to just dump them in favor of a single satan?
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>>149317235
You can have duplicates of legendaries in decks? That is interesting

I usually favor Midrange and Tempo style in Hearthstone, though I can play both Aggro and Control if anything. In particular I like having control over the board while leaving any kind of player I face frustrated

>>149317264
Thanks anon
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>>149317493
>but would it be better to just dump them in favor of a single satan?
No
Never

If anything you should be using those legends plus satan
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>>149317493
No, wait for the august update before dusting legos.
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Anyone want to play SV?
I can play whatever deck you want. I have a decent cards for every craft, though not many of my decks are netdecked or even tested a whole lot against non-unranked players.
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>>149314175
>leave balancing to cygames
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>>149315890
Earth Rune is still a bad match against sword. Against aggro sword, you need to be able to get lucky and get the golem out by turn 3 and/or hope that you draw into some variation of angelic snipe/wind blast as a starting hand and boost your fire chain sufficiently. Good aggro sword fills the board very quickly so that single-target removals become completely ineffective after they get to evolve.

Against midrange swords, you have to get a a fire chain supercharged or it's a huge struggle to get through turns 6,7 or so when all the otohime and sages start to hit the board. Worse, I've seen players running shadowed assassins now which is just an absolute nightmare. In either case, the sword player can have a below average draw and still compete, but if you get a below-average draw as the rune player, it's usually game over.

Going second as rune against sword is probably the worst matchup in the entire game.
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>>149318671
"Forestcraft is overpowered" - Cygames
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>>149311001
Control blood has hella trouble vs any combo rune deck. Playing vs rune and seeing a golem build brings a smile to my face. However using a faster version of control may also work. Things like the 2/2 evo to a 5/5. Succubus to constantly chip at their health at all levels and I personally use triple goblin mount to eat up fire chains. But even still it is definitely a hard match up
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>>149317938
Sure
Put up a room
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>>149284036
People who don't know what they're doing is a nuisance
There's 6 drops if all parts are broken and 3 otherwise.
The boss is quite a bit tankier if the torso isn't broken and does dangerous lightning storms if the horn isn't broken

First stage: Use Slash to break the Head, don't stick too close or you'd miss. Others should stay away until then and break the Torso when it's down.
Second stage: Use Smash to break the Horn while it's charging. Others should stay away until then.
Third stage: If Excellia is there, just brute force it before it could do anything. If she isn't, back away to the bottom edge so you can fight without dealing with SP draining crystals. If the Torso is broken, Pierce does 4x damage.
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Well fucking finally, that took forever.

What's her skill anyways? I don't see it in the wikia and I don't understand noodlenese.
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>>149311001
I've found demonic storm to be terribly difficult to use. The main times that I have to use it is when I am being pressured, but usually in that case I am already low on defense and don't want to to lower it further - especially since the card costs 6 and I usually cannot play anything else in the turn. Also, by the time that I have enough pp to use it, there usually is one or two enemy follower that won't die to the storm. The main use I have found are in reality late game make shift demonic strikes. I've now replaced all of my demonic storms with demonic strikes and things are much smoother.
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>>149320313
"Wichita has a permanent 8/12/16% increase in critical hit chance. When critical hit is achieved in shelling stage, her skill is triggered, bringing additional 10/20/30% critical damage. "
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>>149320313
USA USA USA
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>>149320070
84536

Is there anything you really rather not play against?
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>>149320556
No, I like to know what's wrong with my decks
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Which classes are best suited for Midrange/Tempo?

Right now I am looking at Sword
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mumi
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fukin hijironi is a savage
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>>149321159
Sword and shadow

Sword leans more towards tempo/aggro while shadow is more mid/control, but both can be played aggro or mid with no problems.
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>>149320159
Slash - Sword
Smash - Warrior
Pierce - Lancer
So you need to actually think about team comp in this one?
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>>149320441
Oh thanks, the skill's info is not in her page and I didn't know there was a page with some of the ship's skills.
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>>149322119
Yeah the English wiki is in tatters, you're better off using www.zjsnrwiki.com and winging your way through it with google translate
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How can I get into shadowverse?
Can I get high rank card without spending money?
Can I grind in-game money?

And please hint me on Potion Maker, anyways to earn more rubies? And how to avoid fail enhance? I seems to success one every 20 tries.
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>>149322050
Slash - Swordsman, Cross-Saber, Variant
Smash - Warrior, Fighter
Pierce - Archer, Lancer, Rider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPdjfYqhuYw
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>>149322575
This makes me want to not play if excelia isn't in the room
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>>149322310
>How can I get into shadowverse?
>reroll until you get two legendaries you want
>do daily quests
>play the game
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Post 'em
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>>149323571
disgusting
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Did they add reviving teammates in co-op? Swore I didn't revive, but I got back into the game. Could have tapped it by accident (and goodbye two gems if I did) but getting revived by a nip makes sense since I was the only person who could break the horn during part 2.
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I want those goggles.
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Wonder if theres a statistic of most popular classes in Shadowverse
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Ok, I should stop here.

http://i.imgur.com/pXUrzxD.png
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>>149324769
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>>149324769
The other Urara was cuter and better. Cant really see a lot of her because its a side view of someone doing doggy style with her so its kind of meh.
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>Shadow account with 3 cerberus and all the shadow golds
>Have more fun playing my cheap aggro shadow/blood/sword decks with no legends

Where did everything go so wrong
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>>149320556
gg's
Those decks you have are grindy as fuck, but that must be what you need to get to A0
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>>149320746
I think the game kicked you out of the room or something. It's saying there's no connection.

Good games. What craft are you maining?
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>>149325110
I don't have a specific one, but the ones I used against you are the ones I'm into

My dragon deck isn't really strong enough and there's jack shit for fairy

If I somehow missed a craft then it means I must really not care about it
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Are the stats for friend AI in shironeko based off your highest of that class?
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>>149325103
Yeah, alot of them are pretty dumb. I made them after I got to A0 though, so before that I was doing everything the normal way.

I do play them on ranked though, only because I want to try them against people's actual decks, but the tradeoff is that it really tanks my rating.
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>>149325447
Wait, that's not what A rank decks look like? What are they supposed to be, then?
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>>149324882
Don't worry, I'll prepare something cute for ya later.
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>trying to buy a shironeko account
>tina goes for like $30 with just her and no motifs
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>>149325783
Probably just what you see now at C or B maybe with a bit more legendaries.
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Are these items still relevant at all?
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Do people use moon in high rank SV? She just looks like a slightly better imp lancer
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>>149324769
shadowverse when?
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>DC since part 1.
>Solo all three parts.
Why did I do this and why does this exist?

>>149325961
I can see that, she's fine just with cursed cross-blades, if not better.
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>>149326251
Nope. You're free to sell them for some extra cash.
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>>149325961
>buying account
Anon...
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>>149326356
Yea at this point I'd rather buy a decent account though and not just her.Guess I'll just continue to live without her and be a shitter
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>>149324769
cumdrips version where
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>>149273032
Wrong
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Dragon Rider and (lol) Variant memorial are the only ones left right?
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>>149326251
What's this ?
PW / GK ?
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>>149327908
Goddess Kiss
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>>149320313
Why are you playing the thai version rather than the chink ver if you aren't a thaifag?
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>>149328095
Isn't there censorship in chinks version?
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>>149327795
Well, Dragon Rider might actually get a buff/rework. But I thought they didn't do anything for mages yet.
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>You won - The opponent disconnected
>Lose ranked points and a winning streak

Eh? Ehhhhhhh?
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>>149328210
Only the full apk from the official website is censored, the base apk is uncensored.
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>>149328257
A rework? What's wrong with them to warrant that?
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>>149328321
Powercreep.

Everyone got buffs/reworks and now Riders are the next one in line. Strongest Drider is still Tsukimi and she's sadly pretty outdated so they have to make them relevant again.
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>>149327795
If we're talking only class buff themed memorials; we haven't had sword, mage, archer, dragon. or variant.
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>>149328414
Tsukimi is only outdated because they purposely made coop a fucking shitfest requiring shields and resolve to survive. Then added white manticores.
I think some sites have other riders creeping up on her, and famitsu has her 2nd after Knight Clive among riders.

Anyway, not likely to see a memorial release for a while now, since we should be getting summer once Knight gacha leaves.
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>>149328414
>>149329003
What kind of buffs can we expect? I don't really see the importance of memorials if it just adds the charge stuff. Only useful one I can think of is Lancer but I'm a noob
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>>149329065
>clive
>OP
wait what
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>>149329208
>>149329065
Pretty sure all sites have Clive as the worst unit from this set so I have a really hard time believing that.
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>>149327961
Thanks
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How long did you guys take to reroll Shadowverse?

Is it worth of it?
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Holy shit, the amount of runes required to upgrade the EX souls boards and the last levels of the Excellia's dragon are obscene.
Never thought I would ran out of star runes...
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>>149329101
I think Warrior's was pretty good. They went from being so slow that atkspeed buffs were pretty much mandatory, to having two different ways to attack without standing around waiting for your long normal attack.

Dunno about fist, Ruushe was my first Monk.

Cross Saber's seems not amazing from a combat perspective, but more run speed and a long range attack for far away chests and switches are great for convenience.

But I think one of the biggest boosts the reworks give their classes is just having a strong new character. That way people aren't saying "(class) is shit" all the time and ignoring new ones.
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Best way to get soulstones? im running out.
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>>149330620
The best part about Cross Saber's buff is that it gives you full iframes for the entire duration while you attack and regenerate sp, which makes mob enrages that null skill iframes moot.
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>>149329208
>>149329319
He's 10th on Famitsu top 10, with Tsukimi nowhere to be found there. I think they mostly cite his tankiness and sp recovery as why he's there, maybe realizing that being able to mop up trash is something anyone can do now.
http://wiki.famitsu.com/shironeko/職業別キャラ評価ランキング
For the class rankings, I'm sure you can find their top 10.
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>>149331227
Story mode with a mix of exp dungeon for the tickets.
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>>149331439
Honestly other than his tankiness I find nemo to be more useful still
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>>149331439
>Its true
That one just reminds me of how they put S+ Korin from new years above several SS rated characters. Maybe they're just trying to get people to roll this gacha by doing stuff like this.
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>>149331227
If you mean Otogi, there're SS stages in 6hrs. Skill kill enemies to increase drop rate.
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What should you do to get maximum amount of points from the soul of knights towers?
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>>149331653
>>149331439
>5 characters from the knights gacha in famitsu's top 10

I don't know if they're trying to get people to roll or if the characters are actually good. They're getting too generous with those ratings.
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>>149332154
Probably paid by colopl to get the sheeple to roll
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>>149332154
Famitsu always puts new characters on the top to make people roll for them. They are sponsored by Colopl after all.
That's why appmedia is better.
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>>149332341
Yeah I think Appmedia is better now. They have the variant pretty high but the others are in the bottom spots and will get pushed out by the next batch most likely.
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>>149332124
Clear it alone, don't die, use your skills less than 10 times, finish the tower in less than x seconds, that's what I remember.
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>>149332475
By "alone" I mean with only one character in your party.
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>>149332124
Run it co-op with a mutual follower.

Also read you get a bonus for 3+ characters of the same type. I think that may mean class, rather than skill/technical/etc, but I haven't tried to see yet.
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>My most commonly gotten legendary while rerolling is Lord Atomy

Hey fuck off
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>>149332341
>>149332467
>appmedia gave nearly every knight a 9.5 with very little deviation
>Has 4 knights in top 10
Just about as useless as famitsu giving everyone at least S+ all the time. Maybe I should just go off of gamerch
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Looking for help for 19-2 of knights. My only dragon rider is Tsukimi and there's a white manticore at the end.

70321
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>>149332953
Well we do know those four knights are the best of this gacha. The variant is the strongest with Dean being second and the mage/twin saber being decent.

Gamerch/gamewith are horrible when it comes to rankings so just stick to the previous two.
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>>149331227
If you're sayin shironeko you missed out on 3 months where they gave out 5 soul mine buildings that are way better than the standard soul mines
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>play against forest
>altered fate
>altered fate
>purgatory
>altered fate
>concede
holy shit, fuck Arisa with rusty rake
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>>149333070
Thanks for the help!
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>>149333167
I'd say Liam is really good too. Fucker never stops zipping around
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Can someone explain level breaking in Otogi to me? So I feed a 2* with same 2* 4 times. The corners light up and the color of his level turns red. What else? Can he become 3* once he reaches max level? How does this work??
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>Want to play either Swordcraft or Shadowcraft since my favored playstyle is midrange or tempo
>Never get double legendaries for either
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>>149334220
Level cap goes up.
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>Rune player uses kaleidoscopic glow on unit with ambush after it attacks instead of killing it
>Play same unit next turn and buff it with commanders
>He cant kill it because it has ambush and loses when it hits him right on the face

I feel really bad when I'm the one making these dumb mistakes and lose because of it but feels good being on the other side
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When did teh decline of shironeko start?
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>>149334482
A bit after chaguma
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>>149334270
>Wanted to play Forest because Elves are for breeding
>Got Ancient Elf, Fairy Princess, 2 Path to Purgatory, and 1 Altered Fate in a roll
>Purgatory Elf nerfs announced the next day
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>>149334551
For breeding? That sure explains why they are so good at multiplying and flooding
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>>149334547
Not before or at? That's when less than 3 quests per node started didn't it?
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>>149334668
Well I just remember present quests actually giving 50 gems still around then
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>>149334482
When they didn't properly thank players for their 2 year anniversary and instead expected them to buy more jewels.

>>149334547
We stopped getting a bunch of statue and rerun events shortly after wedding, so I'd say there.
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>>149334728
>>149334547
>Stopped playing after Chaguma

Weird to know that I'm not alone.
The wedding gacha was horribly disappointing and HxH collab was pretty meh. Really hoping they have strong stuff planned for summer and the later half of the year packed with holidays/
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>>149335005
Summer is at least guaranteed to have a bunch of cuties and variant Kamui, so even if they're lackluster, they'll be nice to have.
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>>149335196
Who else is in besides Esmerelda? I want more Marl...
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>>149335252
Marl is confirmed yes. Someone post the art they showed of the summer charas
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>>149335252
Tsuyuha, the rain summoning frog girl with a frog raincoat and umbrella.
We had a weird event with her and two other seemingly unrelated girls, Korin, a kitsune, and Thereze, a pianist. So we were thinking that we're getting them too, since we got rerun events of everyone in wedding before that came out, but that was some time ago, so maybe it doesn't mean anything.
I don't remember the pretty boy that won, had blue hair.

>>149335403
I thought those were just some random design sketches? That page had popcorn man on it too didn't it and I really don't think they'd put him in. Can someone repost it?
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>>149326306
please dont sexualize bells
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>>149329319
He improved a lot with his motif
He was tanky enough to begin with but did mediocre damage, which his motif pretty much doubles
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>>149336394
Motif does look pretty good but having to keep up 3 skills is annoying
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How lewd are the English games in the doc? I'm looking for something significantly lewd to play and fap.
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>>149336047
Too late.
I impregnated bell angel and we're going to have lots of little bells together
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>>149336394
>see post
>roll 150 weapon gacha
>0 4*
yea fuck that
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>>149336047
>constantly begging DONGS for her DING
no, she's made for breeding
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https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/?tags=battle_girl_high_school

Found a surprising amount of BGHS porn/pictures in a site I hate using in case anyone was interested
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>>149337940
Just use Pixiv, you dolt. It's where the majority of those images came from.
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>>149338067
I normally pixiv/twitter it or a booru if im feeling lazy. That's why the part about "a site I hate using" was added.
Saw the thumbnail, clicked it and decided to share.
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>>149338130
Sankaku Channel is one of the most common boorus used. It's literally one of the databases on IQDB. Had you never considered the existence of those other databases it brings up rather than the Danbooru and Gelbooru results on IQDB?
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>>149338407
It might be popular but its a pretty shit site. If you try to hide a tag it blurs it instead and it has a lot of questionable quality crap so I use other boorus instead of that site when I'm feeling too lazy to dig through the source sites.
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Man, is it over now? Can I start playing beginning with Swordcraft?

I can be crazy and try to reroll for Tsubaki, Sea Queen and Aurelia but man...I dont want to push my luck after rerolling for like 6 hours or so
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>>149338563
Looks good
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I'm tired of getting aggromemed
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>>149338746
At least aggro is better than the stallcancer players that only play wards and don't even bother attacking you.
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>>149337263
That's the slutty english dub. The pure original version is constantly begging for RING ON because she wants to get married more than anything else.
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>>149338746
Aggro will always win out in best of 1 ladder based card games because of the lack of ability to use tech cards lest you get fucked by every other matchup
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civila is currently streaming AA3 shadowverse on twitch

it's worth it just to hear his
>soko made ja
>otohime samaaa
>nee nanishite asobu no
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>Get aggro'd by a Blood player
>Drop my Otohime that I managed to reroll for
>He cant deal with the ensuing board

Wow, so she is really that powerful
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>>149341646
She's a 6 cost 7/12 spread across 5 bodies in the most optimal scenario. It's pretty damn powerful.
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>>149341646
She's going to get nerfed.

Screencap this if you want.
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>>149342283
Are you the legendary hater or just one of the 90% of people who just have no idea how the game works?
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>Unpack another Tsubaki
>See none of the netdecks use her

Am I going to have to dump this cute girl later?
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>lvl70+ is much easier that 50-69
Damn. I might get the brownfu by the end of the day. All I need are Kuji friends.
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>>149343030
which netdecks are you looking at?

some netdecks, especially those on gamewith, are either not up to date or don't take into account the current meta.

tsubaki is situational but not useless. she works well especially against big wards like haven. there's been a lot of control haven in A recently, so she's good to run in a swordcraft deck atm if you're in that tier.
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>>149343073
Is there a reason not to use the share with guild? More ranking points?
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>>149343209
Actually I am just beginning...yet so far on this account with Otohime and Tsubaki I managed to get another Tsubaki

http://pastebin.com/hgRVaM8u
It was this netdeck list. I realize some of the lower ranked Sword players play her though
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>>149343030
I'd totally use Tsubaki in my sword deck if I had her.
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>>149343410
>06/30/2016
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>>149343473
Hey, I didnt put the (latest) tag for that link in the OP doc
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>>149343410
that list is so outdated it's practically useless. nobody runs quickblader anymore.
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>>149343254
Sharing is good for event pts but
>If YOU share, someone can steal last hit
>You need ppl online to help
>You spend SE to help, thus you have less for yourself to spend
IMO, share at ~20%/if you already spent a lot SE. Focus solo as much as you can; I'll stop if Joan can be reached as f2p. Also, there's 2 half ranking, pts reset, so that would be better time to grind them.
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>>149344035
What does someone else last hitting even matter. you still get credit for kill
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>>149326306
She looks kinda cute, so why not?
Any pic of her I can use as reference?
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>>149344171
Greed. I got Gilles from drop, higher lvl, higher rate. I want it for myself. Also, no one in my guild shares, so I'll wait day, two, leave and apply to mbgg one.
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>>149314175
Because Satan is a 10 drop.
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>>149328095
Tablet went full gay with an old version of the Chinese servers (some parsing error) so I started playing Thai instead.

My tablet now works fine with the newest version of the Chinese servers but I'm too lazy to start over.
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>>149340692
He streams every day at the same time.

>>149341646
I think her guards are fine but she herself probably shouldn't be a +2/2 evo
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Any general guide for the event happening in Otogi right now?
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>>149346489
Spam 1 SE exp dungeon, Mikhael spawns, kill her. The amount of SE used to fight her depends on your team, so you should use a low cost team (1~3) and a powerful support.
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Playing Terra Battle and I just got "Korin A" and "Suoh", both SS. apparently I can upgrade Suoh to rank Z somehow later, and I also got puprope who can apparently be ranked from rank S to Z later too.

I wanted Gantz but I guess I should be happy now, but what are the best healer units? I'm using Kuscah the Acolyte

and what are some good companion equipment.
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>>149346710
Reroll if you are just starting. Suoh is awful to draw because he can be pulled for free.
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>play as cute girl
>collect more cute girls
This is great. Progression like the usual korean game so I don't have to worry about rerolling.
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>>149344337
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Is it just me, or is anything with incendiary qualities OP as fuck in PW? Enemy tanks are literally killing themselves in 1 hit it's crazy.
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>>149346992

are you sure? I also have Olbert the spearman and I believe he could be upgraded to Z too

ill try to keep going, I'm wondering what companions are good. I got Dark Cane which does darkness damage so theres that.
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Haven doesn't deserve this cutie.
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>>149346710
Kuscah is all you really need for a healer until ~CH30, since he's got Heal:All readily available on his 2nd job - an immensely useful skill allmost all of the dedicated Healers lack, sans Amisandra's Z-class, who's arguably the best healer in the game right now.

Other than that, Korin^ and Suoh are so-so rolls. Suoh's a lot better than his reputation, only really gets there once he's got all of his skills though (and now his recode) and ideally by getting him mastered for "free" by emptying the Pact of Fellowship.

People had big hopes for Korin^, but apparently his "ultimate" skill works a lot worse than expected, if not entirely unsurprising: Since Sword Synergy makes everyone attack at the exact time, the game's hit detection works the way it does for magic and asks:
>if hit at all, take 1x sword damage
instead of:
>for each hit, take 1x sword damage
That way even a boss pincered by 4 Swords only takes a whopping single Megasword to the face instead of 4 consecutive hits. Due to that, he's pretty much left as a bulkier version of his A-rank, to spread his immense Defense-buff and make use of his unique Otomo, which is still pretty decent (+5% absolute dmg and 5% phys.dmg reduction for sword units - on chain, so it's more like +10%/-10% on bosses).

Puprope...is okayish, but for the most part rarely useful for Weekly Challenges and that's it.

As for companions: Don't bother rolling the Energy ones. That's absolute endgame shit at best. Maybe roll the Coin ones every once in a while for some of the following:
- Bronze and Silver weapons. an additional Mega or even Giga attack is a HUGE help at the start of the game, especially when you can push their % to 100% easily, while your own units SB still struggles to reliably proc attacks
- some healing rods for Mega-heals never hurt. Regen is trash.
- items giving +5% or +10% boosts to Atk/Matk. their effect is miniscule early game, but they're top tier once things get rolling and at endgame
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>>149347514
OKay olber works but it's really bad luck to get suoh he's great at Z. He's also someone you can get at the pof. None of the compainions you are going to get is going to be good and if you wasted free energy drawing from there. Then I would suggest you reroll.

For farming purposes you need an SS mage. however, if you get Gatz, Peryna or Sehseizz, you are set for all the content really. A new Z mage will also work but they tend to take longer to level. But an SS mage pretty much clears the early game and makes farming easier.

If you think that's too much of a hassle than don't but olber and suoh will still be a little tedious. Olber especially as he's not really a good dps unit but a defensive one.
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>>149347982
Oh right. When I meant companions are going to be good. The only things you want are Demon Chronicles/Demons for Sb farming if you decide to do that and Bewitching bows (which get replaced by mog but that's end game otomo) and skullsplitters which are 10% Atk/Mattack/silver weapons.
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Having come from GBF, this is an amazingly pleasant surprise

Man, I have been lucky on this account, now I have 2 Tsubakis, 1 Otohime, 1 Cerberus, 1 Forte and 1 Zimitra
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Question about this otogi event. Can't I just let my guild handle Mikhael? Like, I can just go in with a 1*, share with guild, and let them finish the boss? I mean, getting to level 200 like that would be pretty easy, right? Or am I getting something wrong.
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>>149348431
The difficulty gets ramped around 70 afaik
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What jap mobage should i play? I am pretty new to this
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>>149348101
you can still get mog?
I thought that's collab only and the chance of another collab are almost none.
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>>149348662
Read the OP.
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>>149348406
>mfw drew 6 card packs and got nothing but silvers and bronzes
>None of them are even swordcraft, the one craft that I'm trying to play
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>>149347863

So if I get a companion that gives Megasword for example, but my character already has megasword, it'll just add skill proc chance? Sorry, I'm absolutely new. Thank you for the tips.

I was also given the companion "Lani" A rank and does an AoE ice. I guess I Should just throw that onto a mage.
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>>149343029
She's broken because she can completely recover a swordcraft that just got cleared for pretty much free.

Her guards need to be 1/1 or something to be balanced.
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>>149348892
I presume you rerolled? I personally had to reroll for a straight 6 hours or so before I could get Tsubaki and Otohime in the beginning 10 packs

...The fact that I am lucky after that anyway seems to be a bonus
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>>149348967
The guards are already balanced at 1/2 and it's super easy to deal with or clear an Otohime play.
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>>149348912
No, it works like a completely separated attack. If you give someone a Megasword-companion who already has Megasword on his skillset, he can activate both on the same turn. It's a lot easier to boost the skillchance of an C or B rank companion though (especially with the Metal Minions you're currently given for free every now and then during Summer login), so you can easily boost a Mega- or even Gigasword companion to 100% skillchance, while your own unit still has low SB to even proc a Megasword from his own skillset.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0YWk9atvE8

This is how the new online pvp work in MD. You can bring up to 3 decks before matchmaking.
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>>149349045
Nah, I settled with a 2x Aurelia reroll and it's been doing me largely fine. I was originally gunning for Otohime, but I figured Aurelia is the more important legendary for starting a swordcraft midrange.

But every pack I've bought since then has been garbo.
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>>149349649
I remember seeing this game before on the play store but didn't bother with it since it's lulNexon.

Is it more fun than Shadowverse? Or is it p2w?
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>>149349762
No rng, player market.
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>>149347035
You should try Soul King, it's kinda fun
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Looks like I'm done.
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>>149347035
>collect cute girls
That sounds like something I want to do. I'll try it.

Has there ever been a successful pokemon type game where you collect girls instead of monsters? It seems like there should be.
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>>149350475
Touhoumon
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>>149347035
>not working in my country
I guess I'll wait for release.
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>>149350252
At what level does the next magatama tier appear? These 2 and 3s are doing jackshit for leveling.
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>>149347035
>4:33
Is this some sort of korean publisher or developer or what?
They keep on shitting out games all the time.
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>>149350581
Hmm. I wasn't really thinking of hacks, but I've played Touhoumon and it was good.
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>>149350642
3/4* magatama stage at lvl20. Dunno when 4/5*
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Anyone actually grind the current summer event in bghs till 800k points? I'm not strong enough to get past the lvl 195 stage, are there further rewards after that or just better stages to grind points?
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>>149352186
There are no stages past 195. I'll probably be reaching 800k today with daily helpers leading to about 25k a run
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>>149347035
Is korean game legit ?
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is Gugba a good unit on TB?
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also is there an update unit tier list available for Terra Battle in 2016?

I'm not the type to follow them, I'm just curious
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I fucking hate Sola
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So, if I use demonic storm and both leaders had 3 hp, do I get a draw?
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>>149354187
i love sola
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>>149354017
Bombs are more fun than useful, but Tremor is still without equal and Gugba remains a bulky, top-tier Sword even with all the recode-/Z-class-powercreep. He's a late bloomer, but still fantastic due to Tremor, PP Amp, early Terasword and even some okay AoE with Avalanche.

Never been much one for Tier lists, but the old semi-reroll-overview still isn't all that off. From all the new guys I'd add:
- Bonna^ and Schweiz to utility god, possibly even Gatz due to buff/TH. It can't be stressed how fucking fantastic Bonna^ is for both metal zones and general support.
- Gatz^ and Suoh^ to damage god.
- Andelucia, Peyrna and Myne to elemental gods. Beau'ne isn't exactly trash either, but her iffy skillset and lack of CT just hurts.
- Sayu and Mogha to mage god (reluctantly)

Most other new units aren't that mentionable that I'd add them.
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>>149354375
>chick running around killing everyone
>lets just talk to her!
>oh shit she got away!
Nah
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anyone ?
http://sp-gintama.bn-ent.net/
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>>149354208
No you lose.
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>>149351207
Ugh thanks, gonna take forever.
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>>149354874
Repeat 10x times and you got the "plot".
It's funny at times but shit like this really drags it on.
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>>149352686
Guess i'll just grind on stage 145 or the 140 from the 1st part then. I just wanna get haruka and yuri's sailor outfits.
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>>149341646
>oh noes full board wat do
thats where revelation comes in
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>>149355386
On the other hand, given that I see that netdecks tend to include 2 or 3 Otohimes and on top of Sword's tendency to flood the board quite a bit, its entirely possible that you might not have enough Revelations at the right time
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>>149354869

Interseting, I actually have Harold but I figured that he wouldn't be so good due to only being A tier. Should I level?
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>>149355580
Blood has really good draw power especially compared to Sword which has to rely almost entirely on the natural draws and maids.
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>>149354869

That picture is outdated, this thread got some more up to date info, even if it's about recodes only

http://terrabattleforum.com/threads/jars-of-feets-z-class-tier-list.11032/
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>>149355623
Harold's main flaw is that Snaip exists. Everyone who has to face being compared to members of the Trinity is doomed to be called an "also running". Harold's AoE-Gigabow can imitate Snaip's Tailspin and his Thousand Arrows are decent support vs. high defenses. Other than that one might call him pretty boring and a straight forward damage dealer. Which he's good at, but...Snaip exists.
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>>149356209

Cool stuff. Do the TB developers continue to add new content and challenges? or do people mostly just fight each other?
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>>149349762
It has a sleek as fuck UI and nice music.
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>>149357927
MW usually throws out actually new/meaningful gameplay content every 6-8 weeks or so, with new characters/recode being littered in between. While TB beind the ultimate ded game is a nice meme, MW actually seems to work on a lot of stuff going by the monthly (content) and weekly (art/character) streams. It's just that they still seem to suffer from having a too small team for doing too many things at the same time, so the release of actually new stuff tends to take aeons. I think they're currently working on at least three different new game-modes/sidestories - on top of whatever console game may be born from the franchise.

It also feels like they're announcing download starter landmarks at will, to keep control of when they have to announce further new stuff for development.
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Help what's the third one supposed to be? I assume use all monks?
>>
>>149359947
party can only have monks and lancers
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>>149245284
Where is she from?
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>>149360009
Thanks anon
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>>149360124
and to save you the trouble warrior+dragon rider then archer+mage will be coming up later.
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>>149360119
>>149337940
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>>149360179
Oh nice. Thanks for the assistance
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>>149360119
No lewding the mumi
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>>149348776
Last story came back twice it'll probably come back again and it has the more broken otomo.
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>>149360876
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>>149361643
bubi!
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>>149270875
>>149271058
Thanks anons.

Tried android republic but the mod was outdated.
I only wanted it to get jewels faster but I just pulled a Clive so 2 5* will suffice me for as I'm just starting.

Btw what are the differences between global and JPN version of shironeko? I see there's no guilds in JPN.
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When someone shares and you do damage for example i did 50k to finish it off and got like 15+ special summon points.
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>>149362360
This has been explained so many times that the short version is that English is shit compared to JP version. Just play the JP version like everyone else.
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>>149362439
Best girl.
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Famitsu rankings for Shironeko are out highest one is Variant guy at number 3
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>>149362940
>famitsu rankings
>sponsored by colopl
never trust them
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>>149362940
We were talking about them in the thread. The variant is good but I strongly doubt he's top 3 material or that the other 4 they put in are good enough to be there.
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>>149362492
Nah, global is pretty good.
Thanks for the advice anyways~
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>>149363215
>Global is pretty good
Sure, if you enjoy dead games. Everyone that has tried global moved to JP including communities on other sites.
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>>149363062
Well dean and liam are at least
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>>149362760
It's disappointing that she was downgraded to a 4* though.
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>>149363215
cosmetic improvement can only help so much. dont blame us when the global one shuts down
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>>149363215
I liked global quite a bit, even back when they were way shittier.

But then I tried JP, and saw how big the difference was. Could never really work up any motivation for Global again, when I could be spending my time on JP instead.

I still think they're better than a lot of localized mobage, and they have been fixing some of what they started off doing wrong. But still no point playing a worse version when I could be playing the original.

It should also be noted that co-op tends to be pretty important for events. Which last I heard was pretty dead in Global.
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>>149364336
Well co-op requires players. Something global lacks.
But there's always that person that refuses to accept their game is dead and will continue til the company decides to pull the plug on it so it cant be helped.
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>>149363062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n7HlYvEHwE
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>>149357939
Perfection
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>>149364632
More like another dead game.
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>>149262073
Exactly 24 hours ago. Holy shit
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>>149364567
Edge Motif Juda is top 3 material, Motif Juda not so much
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Dead
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>>149364845
It is 10,000~50,000 now.
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I haven't played Girls Frontline in like a month and the new apk doesn't let me login, it just keep loading until it timeout anyone know how to fix this?
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>>149368041
More than 5,000 impressive.
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Is there a way to have 2 save files for a game on one device without root?
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>>149368835
>Without root

nope. root that shit
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>>149279862
I would rather they do tests with weapon restrictions so that every stage isn't just about spamming Kokomi cows or Renge paws.
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>>149369567
>senbatsu with weapon restrictions when I just started out
Bad times
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>>149362360
global has guilds and auto clear tickets and boss fighting nodes, although the boss fighting nodes don't really give much I think? The weapons looked kinda shitty.
JP has more events and more classes since it's the original version so really far ahead
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>>149371587
Also forgot to mention that global put in a button to use your skills instead of holding and flicking to use skills. That one is a pretty good feature that I don't know why JP never adopted since it makes things easier to dodge with the iframes
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>>149372046
>button skills
I want this so bad
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>>149371587
I think they're rare drops. I don't think JP does any rare drop stuff, everything is based on rune grinding.

One of the bosses and weapons is the Tower boss and his sword-hatchet. So I'm guessing they're assets Colopl had around unused for a while.

That, or RS made up its own bosses for them, and then Shironeko used him for its own event. Which seems less likely to me, but is possible too.
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>>149373554
Rare drops suck and that sword sucks too. That tower was a fun challenge though.

Its much more likely that RS just took the assets from Shironeko and put them in early because the game would shut down before they get to run those events with how far they are from the original. Rune story also has their awful original characters and original sets so I have no idea how can someone play that when the original is so much better and has a million resources to help you play.
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>>149374314
I was just thinking Colopl kept some boss designs and models around for when they need to toss one into an event. But they could have had Tower planned that far ahead, yeah.

I've still been logging on, partly out of curiosity and partly to roll the login bonus gems and see who I get. Haven't seen any of the original characters for a while, so maybe they stopped doing that.

They're up to original Tsukimi now.
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>>149373554
>I don't think JP does any rare drop stuff
They do, on the guild offers.
Rare drops sucks though, I did the hardest mission of the HxH guild offers a bunch of times and never managed to get the fucking accesory.
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>>149375964
The HxH offer accessories were all shit compared to standard 6* one anyways
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Does HIT have any 2x equipment drop? Finally unlocked 12-2 and I'm unloading my autoclears and chest tickets right now
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>play midranged sword
>not fast, gets beaten by control and midrange decks with card draw

Why is this tier 1 again?
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>>149374314
And I have no idea how anyone could enjoy either, but here we are. Nothing wrong with them liking and playing Rune Story if they want to.
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>>149377993
Probably has something to do with you not knowing how to play it correctly
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>start playing Panzer Waltz on day 01
>keep pushing the zero content, no one in /mbgg/ gives a fuck
>give up
>come back after a few months
>it's the new FotM

How do I subscribe to next game everyone will be playing?
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>>149378924
/join #colopl
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Someone save us from charlotte
Please
She must be stopped

>>149379081
>>149379081
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>>149349703
otohime is definitely the more important legendary for mid sword.

all aurelia is is a big ward, and she doesn't help you flood the board, which is how sword wins.

otohime lets you still win after getting wiped by revelation or themis, and sets you up for wind god or sage commander.
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