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Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, July 22th:
838 – Battle of Anzen: The Byzantine emperor Theophilos suffers a heavy defeat by the Abbasids.
1706 – The Acts of Union 1707 are agreed upon by commissioners from the Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland, which, when passed by each countries' Parliaments, led to the creation of the Kingdom of Great Britain.
1812 – Napoleonic Wars: Peninsular War: Battle of Salamanca: British forces led by Arthur Wellesley (later the Duke of Wellington) defeat French troops near Salamanca, Spain.


>News
HOI4 DD17/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-june-17th-patch-1-1-red-ball-express.949237/

CK2 DD 13 - Warrior Women
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/crusader-kings-2-dd-13-pagans-advisors-and-warrior-women.955632/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.2 - 09/07/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

Old Thread >>149173115
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Be hpm when
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>play CK2 as duke of york
>become king of england in 2 generations
now what? What a fuggin meme game

https://youtube.com/watch?v=I--sap81a04
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*tips tophat*
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>>149219942
New*
Fuck
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Post masters of the field.
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>playing France for the first time
Oh gee good thing I don't have wickedness to stamp out, now I just have some serious considering to do
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>>149220046
Second coup attempt when?
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Reminder to pay for the games you play
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>>149220203
>implying the first was real

>>149220095
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It's August 1838 and New Ireland I is already 0.6% Irish
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>14 posts
>13 shitposts
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>>149220416
Aah, so /gsg/ is constantly going in reverse?
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What religion should be dominant in asia? Hindu, a branch of Buddhist, shinto, Confusion or muslim
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>>149220798
islam
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>>149220798
atheism
t.mao
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Anyone have a link to command naval operations?
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>>149220798
Zoroastrianism of course
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if I blob into argentina will my pops move there?
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>>149221229
If you have enough pops yeah
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>>149220030
start as a count in somewhere harder

>>149221229
yes
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Fucking chinese useless country
Their rebels are doing better job at defending than their shitty government
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Great, another steam group raid out of butthurt.
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>>149221893
steam group doesn't exist
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>>149221520
While the army is fucking around in Asia, the motherland is being colonized by hungry irishmen.
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>>149222251
>0.0 (ZERO POINT ZERO)
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>>149222251
So what coaling stations you have to get in china?
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>>149221893
They are spamming the thread in hope it gets deleted.
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>>149222441
THE FREE MARKET WILL FIX IT OK
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Thanks mods.
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Based mods
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>>149222251
>>149222807
Time to rev up those taxes and tariffs
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What autismos did /gsg/ piss off? None of the other threads seem to be hit by literal /b/ spam every single day.
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>>149219793
What hearts of iron is better for newcomers?
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>>149223076
>What autismos did /gsg/ piss off?
/gsg/.
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>>149223164
HoI4
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>>149223073
>taxes and tariffs
>Uruguay
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How trivial is it to get a treaty port off the Chinese?
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>>149223252
between 2 to 6 i think
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>>149223076
This game attracts /pol/tard teenagers hellbent on shitposting because of their theme.
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>>149223252
Very ;)
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I'm trying to add generals/feild marshals through an event in Hearts of Iron 4 but the pictures aren't showing.
>see pic related

The file locations are right, the names match and the code is literally just the source code with leader and filenames changed.

>option = { # We welcome them
> name = kijoins.1.a
> create_field_marshal = {
> name = "Adriel Drysev"
> picture = "Portrait_KI_Adriel_Drysev.dds"
> traits = { offensive_doctrine inspirational_leader }
> skill = 9
> id = 5817
> is_female = yes
> }
> create_field_marshal = {
> name = "Ezekiel Maier"
> picture = "Portrait_KI_Ezekiel_Maier.dds"
> traits = { fast_planner organisational_leader }
> skill = 9
> id = 5818
> }

Any modderfags know how to fix this?
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>>149223252
Depends on how far you are, how strong you are and how strong they are.
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>>149220095
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>>149223383
>"ill boycott hoi if they dont add muh nazi flag!"
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>>149223348
Can you even do that? Does it support pics?
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When/How do I get the "Admit Hegemony" CB as Prussia?
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>>149223417
>>149223307
>>149223345
OK if you're a Greece-tier shithole
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>>149223590
You need nationalism and imperialism researched
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>8th Russian Restoration of Order to the Lithuanian
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>>149223664
Ally Russia and let them do the job for you.
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>>149223252
Generally it is pretty trivial once you out tech them.
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>>149223383
>>149223536
>these get deleted
>>149223312
>this doesn't
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>>149223985
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>>149223985
Shitposts get deleted and the proper post stays. I fail to see the problem.
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>>149223589
does what support pics?
If you mean the portraits then yeah it should. .dds files at least.
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>>149224245
the event system when creating a general
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>>149224513
Newfoundland has irish pops to liberate lad
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>>149224068
what makes those posts shitposting and what makes the """""proper""""" post not a shitpost
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>>149224301
I don't know, but I even tried just plain copying a history/country file and adding the create_feild_marshal parts.
The leaders still showed up which was good but the pictures didn't.
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>>149224690
>plain copying a history/country
Those are usually different than the event system
Is there any examples of generals created bye events in the files?
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>>149221893
why do redditors spout the steamgruppe meme so much?
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>>149224824
no but there are a few of aces (like Amelia Earhart) and country leaders of which the country leaders match the history/country files.
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>>149225131
So try removing the picture part of the event and make the picture match the history/country files?
Are you using the proper DDS format?
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>>149225245
>So try removing the picture part of the event and make the picture match the history/country files?
You mean the part with
> picture = "Portrait_KI_Adriel_Drysev.dds"
? What purpose would that even have?

>Are you using the proper DDS format?
Yeah. I made double sure that they weren't corrupted or anything either.
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>>149221520
>actually listened to me

God speed anon. Gods speed.
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>>149225562
>? What purpose would that even have?
Did you confirm it works? Do the amelia event use it?
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>>149225562
>>So try removing the picture part of the event and make the picture match the history/country files?
>You mean the part with
>> picture = "Portrait_KI_Adriel_Drysev.dds"
>? What purpose would that even have?

>>149225664
>>? What purpose would that even have?
>Did you confirm it works? Do the amelia event use it?

nvm, I know what you mean, I'll try it out.
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looks like janny is having another outburst.
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Mememod
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>>149225664
>>149225717
Alright so I changed Portrait_KI_Adriel_Drysev.dds to Portrait_USA_Douglas_MacArthur.dds
I also copied the GER - Germany file, pasted it into the mod folder's history/country and then changed Portrait_Germany_Gerd_von_Rundstedt.dds to Portrait_KI_Ezekiel_Maier.dds

This was the result.

If the mod can't even find base files idk what to do at this point.
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>>149226283
Whats the best % of cosmonauts lad?
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>>149225597
Wow is there some kind of conspiracy going on?
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what are the best specific Grand Strategy games? Most GS games focus on whole worlds of conflict, but what about the smaller ones about specific battles?
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>>149226702
vicky
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>>149226702
Total War
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>>149226702
Liqouria 2
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So lads, what next?

I was thinking of just staying put for a bit, converting my character to Sahidic/Coptic culture and building up a colossal treasury, then holy-warring Egypt for Alexandria to unlock the Knights of Saint Mark holy order and ploughing through the rest of the sultanate to establish myself as the Eastern Mediterranean's premier trading power.
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>>149226702
War in The east
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>>149226702
If it doens't focus on the whole world or at least a big part of it then it isn't GS, you are on the wrong general
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>liberate Indoniggers
>this is how they repay me
Muslims, not even once.
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Hue, nice general. Also its the initial blobbing plan. I could also form United provinces of la Plata, but then I wouldnt be Uruguay anymore and its no good
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>>149227051
Based Kamchatka
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>>149227180
Hot borders you plan there. Keep posting. Also poll for La Plata.

>>149224513
Genocide the British in Northern Ireland mate.
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>>149227051
>Portuguese Colonial Conquest of Cameroon
>it's Spain trying to enforce gommunism in Sweden
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>>149227051
I warned you dog I warned you
>>149214967
>>149215753
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>>149227347
Obviously started like that and ended up something else.
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>>149227324
I'm unironically going to try and assimilate them, there's no UK cores there.
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>>149227051
What's the #6 GP?
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>>149227450
You're too good for them. You should treat them like they treated the Irish for so long.
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>>149227538
I can't help it it's just too hard to turn down free pops
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>>149227357
Wasn't in the last thread. Usually I just keep Indonesia as Japan but I wanted to have some smaller borders with meme sphere co-prosperity.

>>149227502
Anhui, picture related. They're good guys.
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>>149227180
Uruguay best guay
It's time to go back to Indochina now
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>play as fascist Turkey
>finally Germany declares war on USSR
>not sure which one of them to attack first

help, what do I do?
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>>149227920
>le latino man is also in Turkey
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>>149227863
what mod
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>>149227920
>neo-ottoman empire
Glad I never played this piece of shit.
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>>149227920
Wait till one of them is pushing deep so you can cut them?
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>>149227920
>Neo-Ottoman Empire
What were they fucking thinking?
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>>149228393
>>149228471
The best part is that the leader isn't even an osmanoglu
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>>149228393
>>149228471
>>149228519
Realism is not a meaningful argument.
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Playing as Germany (not the German Empire) in Vic 2. r8 my top 5 domestically produced products and tell me what I should prioritize.
1. Fabric
2. Fruit
3. Grain
4. Coal
5. Liquor
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>>149228681
Become the number 1 luxury furniture producer in da warudo
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>fuck me, why can't I engage this motherfucker
- Shen
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>>149227920
Romania and Soviet. Germany will kill itself eventually
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A reminder to encourage intellectuals up to 4.0%
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>>149228681
Luxury furniture, liquor, luxury clothes, electric gear
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There goes the French blob.
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>>149229642
Post aftermath pls
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And Indonesia. No clue why they decided to give up right after another especially with Indonesia zergrushing me with huge stacks now.
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>>149229472
luxury furniture is easily overproduced, liquor isn't
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>>149229927
>he fell for the overproduction meme
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>>149229381
>Germany will kill itself eventually
...on what? American and British naval invasions?
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>>149230003
>he thinks waste is a good thing
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>>149228954
>>149229472
Ok, things have changed a bit.
1. Fabric
2. Grain
3. Fruit
4. Coal
5. Timber
I am currently researching 'clean coal' which will increase my coal production. I recently acquired a lot of Austrian land, and am building a new luxury furniture factory.
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>>149229779
Post factories
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>>149230246
What are you doing lad
Focus completely on liquor. Trust me, you'll thank me later.
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>>149230003
>he thinks failing to sell a huge portion of product isn't the #1 cause of factory unprofitability in V2
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So why did blurple lose its cores in EU4? I thought the forums and the devs loved jerking off to byz.
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>>149230246
The free market is your friend anon, your capis know better than you what to build.
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>>149229685
It's nothing special, they didn't have that much of Africa. Only the the German states are kind of interesting but I guess they'll annex it quickly.

>>149230286
It's the usual shit, fabric-clothes-luxury, liquor-glass, steel and so on, some electro shit as well.
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>>149230614
>Danish Congo
talex
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I'm going crusading and I need some sick music

pls recs and no nasheeds
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>>149230578
I would agree that the convenience of having the capitalists build everything for you definitely makes LF a strong party issue EXCEPT they don't know how to prioritize electric/telephone/radio/barrel/airplane etc when those things get unlocked so you wind up not having them for years until a slot opens up and they happen to build one. I also don't like that they stop constructing at only 6/8 factories, I would get it for state capitalism but come on, in LF nobody but them is going to build, just fucking build.
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>>149230578
>The AI in a Paradox game knows what it is doing.
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>>149230902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxvXITTLLY
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>>149230578
>The free market is your friend anon, your capis know better than you what to build.
This is a lie. If you actually understand the game, you should never move away from state capi / command economy.
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>>149230902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCEI0-Yrp1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRp8WeT0SZI
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>>149231185
>not going LF after building proper factories
???
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What's the tag for Southern New Guinea? SGE doesn't work.
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>>149231336
>caps close level 10 or higher factory during a war that is irrelevant and rob you off industrial points
Good luck with the Lazy faire meme.
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>>149230246
Ah, now I'm back to the traditional German export, coal.
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>>149231508
What would happen during a war to cause it to close?

Don't tell me you mobilize.
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>>149231569
What's even the point of mobilising? Mobilised armies just get stomped.
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>>149231569
Shit world economy. What else? Caps in this game are fucking stupid. No one other than rob mobilizes.
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>>149231680
Fuck if I know lad, I've only ever done it during the Warlord Era in order to pair up with HUS to speed along the huge amount of occupying you have to do with only a handful of regular brigades.
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>>149231820
why is vic 2's economy so shit
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>>149229472
>luxury furniture
The gommies are gaining ground, so I don't think anyone will be able to afford that shit.
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>unified unciv japan
First time I see this. I really want to establish protectorate on them now.
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Why do these games attract so many redditors?
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>>149232128
When I play China I declare war for humiliation and then occupy until reactionaries start spawning whenever a Jap substate gets above 50% civilization, that way by the time Berlin fires they are unified but uncivilized and I can take the whole thing in one infamy-cheap war. Japanese clay is rightful Chinese clay.
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>>149232402
Alex Grandi attracts them
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>>149232402
Redditors feed on smugness, which is why they love the Paradox games with faux complexity like Europa Manasalis 4 and Liquoria 2 as it allows them to feel superior playing a "challenging" game without having to put in any effort. They hate hoi3 for being too "micromanagey", aka too complex for their redditor brains.
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>>149232425
I think Im gonna do the same thing
Then Ill release all the daimyos as puppets
And Uruguay will be shogun of Japan
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>>149232630
What is complex about pausing every second to move a division
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>tfw all of Scandinavia, Rus, Poland, Magyars in Hungary, Alanian Khazarian empire, and Turkestand are all christian by the 10th century
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So I just started playing Victoria 2 as the US

And I have noticed that I am getting 0 emmigration whatsoever, my pop is increasing only 3k a month max and I have about 9 times less the pop as the UK
Is this the game being shit?
Me being shit?
Or do I need a mod?
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>>149232685
dem encirclements man
dem encirclements
just encourage party loyalty and build factory factories
>2ac
>lmao 2ac
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>>149232751
Why would this make you feel good lad
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>>149232762
You need to learn patience little anon.
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>>149232685
Having to put thought in where that division goes and what will meet it when it reaches there is more complex than building liquor factories/spending bird mana
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>>149232818
Well the year is 1850 in game, so I have been fairly patient I feel like...
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>Playing HIP mod
>See pic related
Wait...

Wouldn't this mean my queen has a huge bush?
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>>149233025
>playing with VIET
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>>149233025
>what is a vagina
you know theres a reason women wear underwear and clothing on their legs, right?
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>>149232630
>Spending more time = more challenge
Wrong. Hoi4 is shit, but not because you don't have to waste time microing HQs.
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Okay, Divergances lad here, it seems Macedonia won. Will begin shortly, I hope.

>>149227051
>trusting Indonesians
>laughingdutchmen.png

You deserve this.
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>>149233227
did you even hover over the spoiler
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>>149233025
Huge clit

Then again, it could be your nips she's referring to. Reference to Janet Jackson and the flash seen around the world.
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>>149223715
>14th Ruthenian Conquest of Novgorod
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Has there been anyone who's played UK and genocided the Pajeets, I'd like to see that.
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>>149233453
not sure they did fetish titty piercings in the 12th century.
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>>149233513
>165th French Liberation of Alsace-Lorraine
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Guys I am looking to buy a new laptop. I currently have a nice ultrabook however since its getting old, some of my Paradox games lag and I want to play games like Stellaris in at least Medium (30+ FPS). I am looking for a laptop (not a desktop) under $500 that can handle most Paradox games in Medium-High.
Currently, my laptop has the following specs:
Core i5 3317U 1.7GHz, Turbo Boost at 2.6GHz
HD 4000 350MHz, Boost at 900MHz
SanDisk Unknown SSD, 240GB
1366x768 HD Display
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Where does the "China industrialized in 10th century" meme come from?
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>>149233935
Probably that Chinese steel production number, little do they know that liquor is the true measure of industrialization.
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Pretty good, probably the best Japan game I've had. Smaller borders are better than China blobbing no doubt.
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>>149233935
Retards who don't understand the difference between total and per capita production
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>>149233448
no, I didn't want to be spoiled.
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>>149234007
What is that number?
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We are the Brotherhood of Freedom.

We, the fallen Christian sons, chose not death. We chose life instead. The heathen Turk, the vile Ottoman, he will not oppress us any longer! We, we are free sons of Christ! We have already seized our ancient land of Makedonia, and from here, we will liberate all our brothers in Christ, languishing under the Turk's rule!

The Sultan is weak, the Sultan is a coward. He thought his power would carry on as it did in time immemorial. And now look at him! Pathetic, weak, his empire chewed upon by maggots, feasting on diseased flesh. There has been no better time for those of us who wish to be free, than now. So we declare unto you, oh Sultan of Hell, that we are at war. And we will not rest until all of our brothers, our sisters. Our fathers, our mothers. Our sons, our daughters, we will not rest until all of them are free.

For we are the Brotherhood of Freedom.

We are...Makedonia!
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Gentlemen, the Great European War has come early. In 1855, a political crisis over the Ottoman controlled region of Thessalia erupted into war with Germany and France supporting the Greeks, and the British, Spanish, Dutch, Belgians, and Austrians supporting the Ottomans. As of September of 1856, the war is going well for the Pro-Greek coalition, with Belgium and the Netherlands almost completely occupied, and with Austria losing much ground to the Germans.
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>>149234212
>blobbing
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>>149234419
>PDM
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>>149233756
FUCKING THIS! Those fucking frogs are more annoying than dangerous tbqh!
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>>149234419
>Macedonia
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>>149233917
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri
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>>149234505
>acquiring critical sources of coal for my growing industry
>blobbing
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>>149234652
>blobbing
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>>149234652
>trying this desperately to justify your blobbing when you're a great power and can just sphere countries to to get the goods you need
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>>149234640
Maybe a suggestion of which mobile GPU has the best value while still being better than the HD 4000 perhaps?
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>>149234748
I'm not memeing you when I tell you that asking for system reqs literally belongs on
>>>/g/
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>>149234275
Check the archives lad, we meme about it on a regular basis.
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>>149234792
But they don't, I get shunned its super slow even the QDDOT thread. Also since I am only looking to play GS games, I thought it would be more appropriate here.
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>>149234554
It works both ways
>be russia
>ally the frogs
>constantly dragged to war because eternal kraut can't deal without Elsaß-Lothringen

>play frogs
>get attacked for the 5th time
>end up occupying all of germany for the rest of the next 20 years to have some peace

There should be an event removing cores of one side after some time.
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>>149234884
>There should be an event removing cores of one side after some time.
There is.
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>>149234874
Did you even try logicalincrements.com before asking?
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>>149234996
>new website I've never heard of
n-no
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>>149234419
>Macedonia
>Bulgar land
>Bulgar general
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>>149234476
>>149234476
>tfw Austria got BTFO so hard, they only have a 4,000 man army to stand up to the 96,000 Germans in their country
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>>149235192
>Bulgar general
don't you mean burger general
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January 1st, 1836 in the Year of our Lord, in the Greek Penninsula. The Kingdom of Macedonia is a very young nation, only just declared today. The nation was formed out of the Brotherhood of Freedom, a collection of Greek and Bulgarian (and also a smattering of other) intellectuals, romanticists, warriors, priests, and all other components of our peoples fleeing Ottoman oppression for centuries. In exile, the Kingdom of Aragon sponsored the Brotherhood, and not only trained what would become our army, but gave funding, and even secured the initial countryside - on condition that they adopt an Aragonese king. The Aragonese promised that it will be a constitutional monarch, like their own, though that remains to be seen. Will they keep their promise? Ah, such matters we can only trust in God, no?

The Ottoman Empire has been in one series of civil wars after another for well over a decade now, well into the second one. The Iraq vilayet governor had already split from the Empire. Likewise, the Venetian citystate, long dominant in the Mediterranean, moved in, and brought the rebelling Greeks and their leader, Zimices, under their wing some years ago. No one knows what Venice plans to do with it's portions of Greece, but we have to be wary - doubly so, since one of Aragon's primary rivals in the Mediterranean is Venice, along with the various Italian states trying to resist their encroachment from Sicily.

Fortunately we are not alone! Not only is Pasha of Egypt resuming his war against the Sultan after the bitter truce, but the Albanian Beys have had enough, and are also revolting. In the East, the Kurd rebellion is well underway, and they tell us their new country may be declared any day now. The governor of Syria vilayet, imitating his fellow governor of Iraq, has also declared rebellion. We hear word that Illyria may enter the war anyday now as well, and Hungary too. And to top it all off, the Janissaries are also rebelling.

There has never been a better time!
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Pitch ideas for your Paradox mods

I'll start: An EU4 md that adds some flavor to make some alt history stuff "easier" to do (i.e an option for Castile to marry a Portuguese noble, an Anglo-French dual monarchy nation with a new "French" culture like in Divergences, etc
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>>149234212
Oh god I feel so dirty. Im gonna release all the daimyos fast
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>>149235467
A mod that ports your CK2 family into the Sims
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>>149232425
That's actually a great idea. How feasable is it tho, fighting Japan + daymios as unciv China?
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>>149235437
Sorry lad, but any AAR with >PDM is automatically into the trash.
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>>149232630
>Muh smugness when everyone here has played those games for thousands of hours and then feel superior because you are on this low-life internet community and not that other internet community
ISHYGDDT
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>>149235748
>~200 available brigades vs half-dozen substates each raising about 10 brigades but they come at you individually because they'll generally only fight on their own territory
I don't know, what do you think.
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>>149235771

at least nationalist rebels actually work in PDM unlike HPM :^)
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>>149234884
HPM has been told countless times but he says it's possible through Great Wars so whatever.
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>>149236156
no they don't, nothing works in redditpm
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>>149219813
kek that one guy got cucked hard
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>>149236218

lol, you think reddit likes PDM. That's really cute, honestly. Do you not realize that everyone there loves HPM?
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>207 posts
>23 posters

kek, nice "poopoopeepee" you have here
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>>149236503
no, they think it's "le railroaded xDxD", they'd rather build horse factories
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Post yfw France acquires Southwest England in a coalition war
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>>149236552
based HPM

>>149236562
reddit hates PDM and with good reason, its fucking shit
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A victory ordained by God Himself was given to us. Almost laughingly easy, we had shoved aside the Sultan! It was a scary thing at first, when the massive Janissary rebellion finally succeeded, and a new republic headed by their commander himself was declared. But even with the Janissaries and the remnant Imperial troops back in the field, they could not stop us! We trashed their new army, nearly twice as strong as us and with artillery, on the banks of Xanthe. The war went so well we demanded even further, even more, on the off chance the Sultan would agree to at least cede us our initial territory. But after our surprise victory, it was relatively easy to siege the Eternal City, the Janissaries having done most of the work to demolish the ancient fortifications earlier.

Unfortunately, our victory came at a price. Our fellow rebels, the Kurds and the Syrians, either gave up or were brutally put down the new Imperial army. God rest their souls. A

nd now, Pasha will fail too in Egypt. And our Bulgarian people feel sad for the attempted effort by the Illyrians - they did enter the war, but with the new change of government, they must have been spooked. What a shame. Still, technically, all of Greece is now free of rule from the hated Turk.

Glory be to God!

>>149235192
Already explained this silly, it is a rebellion of both Greeks and Bulgarians. A dinational state for now.

>>149235771
That's a shame.
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>>149236570
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G-guys, how do i open the pastebin links ;_;
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>>149235528
Should I do it? Or stay as cute Uruguay master of asian puppets?
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>>149236913
Uruguay desu.

Just make sure to edit the files so your pops can migrate to the colonies. I want to see how many Uruguayans you can get in Japan by endgame.
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>>149236668

While some revolutions fail, more succeed.

Former Janissary commander Mihat Bey, turned Grand Consul, has been leading his soldiers on campaign in Egypt. His search for glory will be his undoing.
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Best mod is PPM desu lads
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>>149237248
No anon I cant just keep Japan as a colony cmon, it would be like cheating. It looks better this way, and my main colony is Indochina. And what do you mean edit the files?
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>it's a playing as Austria but the Burgundian inheritance never fires episode
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>>149237486
New world pops can't migrate to colonies outside the Americas by default. You have to edit the files to let them do so.
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>>149237616
In poptypes I assume?
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>>149237886
Not sure, to be honest, it's been a while since I looked for it. I imagine so.
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>>149237949
Well I cant see anything obvious, isnt it because america has a bonus too big for them to migrate?
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Man Paradox really need to go and re-haul non-interesting countries National focuses, they're so shit.
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>>149238268
No, they literally can't move. It's in common/cultures, "is_overseas = no" under "latin_american_cultures".
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I did it lads. I made the Carlist dream come true.
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>>149238591
Ok thanks, I'll change it

>>149238702
10/10
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>>149238702
>"""""""South""""""""
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>>149238702

Europe after dismantling britbongistan and lesser germanland. I wish I had more control over which colonies i'd take
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>>149239108

Asia. Pakistan has such a sexy color.
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>>149239108
>I wish I had more control over which colonies i'd take
That's when you use changeowner so it makes sense
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>>149239232

GPs at the end. No desire to play out the last 5 years because it's just Christino sympathy spam to the maximum and my economy is falling apart due to dem welfare programs.

Only console usage was making NA a little bit prettier and connecting Florida to the rest of the old Mexican colonial borders after America got dismantled.

>ireland GP

scary

It's kind of a bummer Spain isn't super fun to play in V2 due to the constant rebellion spam (though it's better than it's used to) because it's one of the few nations that has a fairly decent iron/coal output in its home provinces. No China/Africa cheesing necessary to fuel your industry.
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How should I administrate my Louisiana and Canada?

Should I split them up into Louisiana and New France, or create one huge "New France"?
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>>149239779
Huge blob desu
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Divergances lad here, sadly I think I'll have to think of a different time to do it, nighttime here is apparently very hostile to it. Ah well.

>>149239779
Seperate. Try to think of them as developing two different cultures. Unless you envision them being a sort of giant pan-American culture, I dunno. How are you RPing your France here?
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>>149240561
I'm going for pic related.

Also accepting more blobbing goal maps.

I have France, the PLC, Italy, and Turkey by one anon, and Canada by another.
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Arent the South Peru cores supposed to disappear?
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Does anyone know how Mexico gets the HM government event trigger? Or should I just let Reactionary rebels win?
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>>149240853

How many cheats did you use ?
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>>149240853
Final borders achieved

>>149241728
None?
Uruguay is actually not bad, you start with lots of mil, and after the colorados win you have a liberal majority in the upper house.
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>>149239779
>>149240680
As it turns out I managed to win back the papacy despite having -200 opinion around 10 years prior.

Should I still go Huguenot?
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>>149241870

>liberal majority

in the trash it goes
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>>149241921
>i dont want free reforms as a new world country
Uh ok
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lmao I just found an incredible way to annex texas in hpm as mexico:

blockade their ports to send them over the warscore limit that starts the event to let US sphere Texas (because you're not in their territory with troops) and then you're safe to just siege them down.

ez
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>>149241880
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>>149242135

ezzzzzzzzzzz
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WE

WUZ

CHANCELLORS AND SHIET
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>>149236913
Do it.
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>Bordering 5 axis countries as a Comintern SFR Yugoslavia
I'm just counting my last days lads.
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How to turn Germany into a monarchy in HoI4?
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>>149243441
"not at all"
- Johan
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>>149242340
Ger ready for the American rape train.
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>>149239779
>>149240680
>>149241880
>>149242285
Should have mentioned that these are the colonial regions.

Mod is Beyond Typus
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>>149240680
I meant more how are you RPing your France? I don't care about your blobbing goals. I meant what is your mindset that you imagine your France is having? That to me determines what your colonial set up should be like.

Also, what you described is nothing like what you are displaying. For one, that's just Quebec you're intending on getting, not really so much of historical Louisiana.

Also, what's going on in that Plata? Intended colony/dominion? Also, why the fuck are you only annexing Haiti, annex the whole fucking island. Who gives a shit if they were Spanish there, you're France, you don't give a single shit about that. Their kids will speak French.

>>149241880
YES

I'm so sick of Catholic France.
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>>149243718
I'd like to do something similar to the Louisiana purchase for whoever colonizes Eastern America, and keep Quebec/New France/Canada as a crown colony.

I plan on colonizing all of Haiti and "Rio de la Plata". Everyone in the new world colonies will speak French, except for most of Louisiana (it was more loose control than any colony iirc)
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>>149243412
Fucking Soviet Union forced me into the Iranian Civil war.

I'm fucked.
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>>149244137
>get asked to join war
>refuse
You fucking failed lad.
Also you can almost indefinitely hold your ground as Yugoslavia if you're not a complete retard.
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>>149242510
>ruler of republic is chancellor

but then what do they call the chancellor who forges claims?
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>>149244815
Kanzler
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>>149244748
I refused like 4-5 times and in the end I was just pulled into it randomly, I've been holding it for a nearly a year now.
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>playing Australia in DH
>start in 1933
>preparing for war with Japan
>cleaning up Africa and Middle East
>suddenly US AI declares war on Japan screwing up WWII
>meanwhile Britain is invading Greece again
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Another success for Uruguay
Currently sphering central america to recreate the FRCA, also I wish my fucking capitalist would upgrade my factories, it's really a pain
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>>149243412
>>149244137
Serves you right for not being radical
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>>149245197
Become La Plata faggeet.

Also, when is your bug fix patch HPM?
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How do you westernize as China without being flooded by rebels?
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>>149245197
>he fell for the LF meme
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Wait, so does HPM need 3.04 patch?
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>>149243947
Do you plan for any of these colonies to break away if that's the path they choose? Or are you going to be gamey and make sure they stay attached to you?
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How is the new HPM?
Good? Bad?
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>>149245197
Lower the tariffs to negative
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>>149244815
>>149244860
Ambassador, actually.
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>>149246039
It's pretty good

>>149245952
>Historical Project Mod - Version 0.3.5.2 for HOD 3.04
It's a mystery
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The OP image shows HOI3, but down the bottom it gives mods for Darkest Hour. Would I be correct in assuming these are the same game, or have I erred?
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>>149245952
>Historical Project Mod - Version 0.3.5.2 for HOD 3.04
Hmmmm.
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>>149246325
Based steamgroup.
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>>149246325
Why would you assume they are the same game?
You could just google that.
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>>149246171
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.

I quit out of this game after winning the holy war for Alexandria, since I needed to take a break. But now, when I go to try and load my save-game up, CK2 crashes.

And it's not just the latest save, it's all the saves for Alwa/Nubia.

Fucking hell.

How do I fix this? I really do not want the last 250 years of effort wasted.
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>>149246406
Well I did, and now I feel dumb. But if I googled everything I would have no need of this thread, and camaraderie is worth more than instant answers.
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>>149246564
Nigga we are here to help you not to babysit you, you are expected to google your own shit.
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>>149246515
Correction: looks like it only fucked up the last decade's worth of saves. Saves from about 10 years before my latest save seem to work.

Which raises another question - what the hell is corrupting my saves? This isn't the first time this has happened.

Is there somewhere I can upload these saves so someone can give them a look?
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I just now noticed that the map in hoi4 is literally the same one of eu4
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>Industrialize as China
>Economy breaks
I hate this meme so much
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>>149248112
How is it broken?
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>>149247549
The UK doesn't own Normandy in HoI4
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>>149245197
Took a while to finish unsphering.
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>>149248691
>no Panama

wtf dude
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>>149248568
I meant the base map, parajews just recycled the same map
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>>149248724
>>149248691
>not all of central america
wtf dude
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>>149248756
Do you know what an engine is?
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>>149248724
>>149248783
Wew calm down lads I didnt write the decision
Gave it to them since its still big majority central american
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>>149248941
>cheating

wtf dude
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>>149248884
The shape of the provinces is the same on both games, it has nothing to do with the engine, especially considering that there are mods that change the map drastically
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ok
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>>149249436
wow, such a funny screenshot!! mind if I post it on /r/paradoxplaza? XD
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This place has more ironic shitposters than actual shitposters
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>>149249561
treddit
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>>149248941
Pssh stay calm nippon
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>>149250315
You really should kill this meme. Literally no better than reddit and Jan Mayenism.
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gr0ss
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>Play as SFR Yugoslavia
>1943
>Axis & Comintern at war
>Soviet Union getting demolished
>Germany, Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria & Romania fail to take Yugoslavia
>Hold my frontline for 3-4 years only having 7k casualties
>Soviet union capitulates
>Game over

Are you fucking kidding me?
this is so fucking retarded
>>
Is there any gsg made mods for hoi4 other than more music mod?
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>>149250905
Yes
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>>149250905
No
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>>149250905
maybe
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>>149250905
Maybe
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>>149250905
I don't know
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>>149250691
I seriously wish there was some rule about not bitching about a just released Paradox game.

WE KNOW IT'S FUCKING BROKEN. WE KNOW IT'S A HUMONGOUS STEAMING PILE OF SHIT. WE KNOW IT'S BUGGER THAN MAGGOTS IN MAO'S ASSHOLE.

If you already know all this, WHY ARE YOU PLAYING IT STILL?!
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>>149251349
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Sphere system is so fucking stupid. How do you even play with shit like that?
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>>149251929
Why so butthurt senpai
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>>149250315
RIP France you will not be missed, filthy socialists
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>>149252063
I tired of not being able to sphere Saxony and S-Holstein.
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>>149252248
>rebels
>at war

Anon explain this right now.
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>>149251929
It's actually one of the best mechanics in any paradox games.
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>>149252349
I think that might be the CNT/FAI flag.
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>>149250975
Do you have a link?
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>>149252349
Pretty sure its the fake war that calls your allies during great wars
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wew
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>he fell for the state capitalism meme
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>Playing China is fun
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>>149253096
it is, you just have to git gud nerd
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>>149252248
Aaaaah
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>>149253124
teach me. how do i get rid of all those fucking rebels. I havent even passed a reform yet - its just event-driven shit. I want to invade Indochina and Japan ;_____;
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>>149253334
don't get the western winds thing. adds militancy
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>>149253191
Unless you're a bad goy there is nothing to fear.
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>>149253415
Yeah but this means I keep Isolationism (-40% research) plus I don't get western winds (+20% research). I won't even westernize at taht speed.
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>>149253531
slow and steady wins the race
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>>149245995
Sorry for being late

I plan to hold on to Canada (like the UK did), "selling" largely native Louisiana (save New Orleans and St Louis and other key settlements), and letting Argentinie go free.

As for Guyana, Caribbean islands, and African and Asian colonies, they will say, but will be acquired later.
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>>149253531
>. I won't even westernize at taht speed.
Yeah, I can see you're westernizing really great with western winds
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>almost lost an engagement with the Qing navy
Good thing I can use the UK ports to repair my ships otherwise I would have lost already
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>>149253834
What the hell are you doing?
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r8
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Fuck off France you have lots of shit already.
>>149253884
Getting me some silk and a treaty port.
It's too far away so my ships die of attrition and I didn't build a navy beyond the initial one. The man-o-wars have the necessary equipment to be built but it takes a year for each one to be completed.
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>>149253581
>>149253747
How is putting speed 5 and spleep on your screen until after the whole world has already been conquered by Yuropeans "fun"? Seriously, I want to like China but it's painful as hell.
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>tfw you become so big as China you literally starve all other countries in the world
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>>149254079
After you westernize you get to do a whole bunch of wars to unite your country
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>>149254079
Play Manchuria, you can westernize earlier and kick the ass of Qing with your superior technology
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>>149249436
Which anime is this?
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>>149254074
What port?

Don't forget to take Tunis and Libya, as well as the horn.
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>>149254212
Kuruseidamimu 2
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>>149254287
>blobbing
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>>149254161
Can you unite China? There ain't gonna be flavor tho.

>>149254146
When you westernize, the game is already over.
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>>149254397
>When you westernize, the game is already over.
t. guy who can't even last 20 years as qing
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>>149254287
I won't.

I'm divided either between Jiaxing, Shanghai and Kwangchowan.

The brits just got Hong Kong so if I get Kwangchowan first I might get precious metal there and cockblock the UK from getting in Hong Kong.
Jiaxing has more people and more silk. Shanghai has a chance of turning to precious metals too but doesn't have silk.
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>>149254397
Dedalusmemes westernized in the 80s, that's half of the game.
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>>149254549
So what's your progress atm?

Rank?

Also,
>cropping
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>>149254553
>boohoo I can't westernize in 5 years
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>>149254397
Yeah you can unite China
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>>149254636
>not cropping
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>>149253191
The UK is about to commit a big mistake.
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>>149254470
>>149254553
That's why I'm asking advice.

>>149254754
Neat.

>>149254549
Take Jianxing, it's the most profitable.
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First time I see this, did HPM do something? Why is my 3 level luxury clothes factory making this much profit?
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>>149255329
HPM made the AI try to have more capitalists, so more luxury clothes demand.
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How does the precious metal in Chinese ports work? You can get an RGO change in a single, random port?
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Does lowering taxes help pops promote? IE if I tax the lower class less, will they be more likely to promote to intellectuals?
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>>149246814
Decided to just go to the latest usable save and re-play from there.

Current chancellor is actually pretty good. Unfortunately, I can't build trade posts in the Med because I don't have sea access (my directly-held provinces are in the Cairo, Blemmiya and Alodia duchies). Shame I can't relocate my capital.
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>>149255610
They will have more money, which they'll use to buy stuff. If they fill their needs better, some promotions might speed up
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Fuck off Qing, give me my drug dealing rights and a free port.

>>149255589
A few ports get it, like Shanghai. They have different conditions. The ones I know are: shanghai can't have a lot of people but dunno how much, hong kong can't have Kwangchowan producing precious metal, Kwangchowan can't have hong kong producing precious metals.
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AARnon, are you still waiting for that holy war/crusade fix or have you given up hope?
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>>149255580
Funny, I actually built that factory without any hope, just because it had silk there. And It's my most profitable factory now
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>>149255749
>tfw lost the race

Fuck you france
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>>149256174
Almost fucked that up.
Occupying Hainan will allow me to launch blockades in China.
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>>149256174
If you're looking for another goal, there's always Siam if the UK hasn't moved in
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>manchuria has slavery
>qing doesn't
Explain this
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>>149256543
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>>149256631
>qing has slaves
>mongolia doesn't
Explain this
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Is there still anyone left who plays Liquor 2 without Historical Distillery Techniques Mod?
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>>149256709
Mongolia isn't Qing.
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>>149256768
rob
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>>149256709
>qing has slaves

>yfw you realize had Ming stayed we would have a much better China now
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>>149256543
>>149256709
>usa has slavery
>british empire doesn't
Explain this
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>bait the Qing across the Hainan
>close their retreat
I'm taking heavy losses though, better leave it closed for a while.
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>>149256827
>yfw you realize china would be colonizing andromeda right now if song dynasty stayed in power
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>>149256959
Fucking finally, almost lost the final battle too.
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>brazil has slavery
>portugal doesn't
Explain this
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>prussia has swaggery
>austria doesn't
Explain this
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>>149257158
Now with that chinese money I will fund forts and railways all over my country.

I better prepare a colonial army and a fort in shanghai because I will go after Jiaxing next
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>>149257309
>Bismarck
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>tfw the USA is #1 in prestige in 2016 when their cultural products are things like

>I'LL FUCK YOU IN HALF

>I'LL FUCK YOU IN HALF


>IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES GUILLOUTINE


>GIT GIT GIT GIT GOT GOT GOT GOT


Britain/Germany return to #1 when
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>>149257360
I'm tied with Belgium and 10 points below Spain. Not much to get to GP now.
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>Paraguayan war
>almost 70% of the adult male population died
>According to some estimates, Paraguay's pre-war population of 525,000 was reduced to 221,000 of which only 28,000 were men.
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>>149257517
>USA
>culture
pick one
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>>149257565
sexist!
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>>149257565
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>that feel when the turks have better ships than you
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>playing manchuria
>randomly get a game over saying I was annexed
>game crashes right after
What just happened?
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>>149255948
I fixed it a couple days ago. I started the playthrough back up again two nights ago and spent most of yesterday writing updates; I'm ready to post right now, and I should be starting within a half-hour or so.
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>>149258249
I think there's an event for Qing to annex Manchuria.
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>>149258482
So just savescum if it happens?
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>>149258249
You are a Qing puppet I think, they annex Manchuria at one point.
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>>149258249
>>149258482
I think it's the Amban's demand event. If you give your cores to Russia, China annexes you. It's written in the option you pick.

I will make it so that only happens if Manchuria is AI.
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>>149258531
Just tag to Qing and release Manchuria's puppet status
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>>149258703
That seems really cheesy

>>149258625
I didn't get an event popup about that
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>>149258625
Lad I was playing Shogunate a while ago and I had event spam, something about samurais I didn't read it completely. It gives you -2 prestige and lowers your relationship with one GP. By spam I mean it was stamp out the wickedness tier, when it stopped I had like -180 with all GPs, can you take a look at it?
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>>149258785
Cheesy? Good luck playing the game without fixing broken shit.
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>>149258385
How did you get it working? Like, what's the code look like? I'm curious.
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>>149258785
That's strange.

Can you see in your game.log what was the last event/decision?

>>149258865
Well do you remember the name of the event?
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>>149258625
Hey HPM, I was playing as imperial japan, and after winning the meiji rebellion I took the hokkaido kaitakushi decision (I was pretty far ahead in tech). A couple of weeks latter the republic of ezo event fired so the modifiers got fucked. Can you make it so you can either only take the decision after the ezo event chain? Or that if you take the decision it never fires. The first option would be better for flavor I guess.

Also, the Edo pop growth modifier stays forever if you are playing as the shogunate.
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>>149258873
>don't release myself
>have to become a GP or wage an independence war

>release myself
>don't have to do either

>>149258945
Sorry, I already restarted the game. If it happens again I'll tell you
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>>149258625
F U N
U
N
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>>149258945
Nah, I didn't pay any attention to it. I'll tell you if I play Shogun again

btw I'm not using your latest version yet, I think this one is 3.5.0, you might have fixed this already
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>>149258914
Embarrassingly easily. I'm really terrible with modding, to the extent something as simple as this never occurred to me, but all I needed to do was add the highlighted segment to the "can_use" and "is_valid" portions of the CB. The same (or very similar) fix worked equally well in both the Holy War and Religious Reconquest CBs, which are all working now.
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The UK have 2 +4 generals fuck me
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>>149259084
Well then fucking go for war? You'll not win unless you're perhaps allied with the British. Does Qing have cores on your territory? If so, it's irrelevant anyways since they'll come for them sooner or later.
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>>149259374
I don't think I can until I'm civilized
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>>149259332
Forgot the damn image. Only accentuates me being a retard. Too fucking early in the morning.
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>tfw Carolingian Empire survived my megacampaign all the way

>tfw it's literally a western version of China
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>>149259235
No, I didn't mess with Shogunate stuff.

>>149259070
Sure, I will fix it.
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>>149259558
post dem maps fuckboi
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>got the Amban's Demand decision this time
>now I'm independent
Neato
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yay
Now I just need to unify Italy and build the Suez Canal to guarantee access to my colonies in east africa and China.
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Reminder that Byzantion >>>>> Istanbul > Tsargrad > Constantinople
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>>149259714
Russia gets cores though right? What about Qing?
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>>149259714
Remember to take Peking and put quotation marks in "Heavenly" and "Kingdom" when they win the Taiping rebellion
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>>149259714
Russia coming for you lad. Small tip : don't try to resist, you'll get your revenge later
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>>149259985
Russia gets cores, but Qing doesn't. I don't mind giving the Russians their cores
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>>149259934
>some rinky dink provincial backwater is better than the capital of the Roman Empire and one of the holiest cities on the planet
>turk infested abomination is better than that city
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>>149259934
How the heck were ancient Greeks so based, despite being so few in numbers?

And why are modern Greeks so useless despite there being so many of them?
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>>149260045
You should give it to Russia, westernize, ally with Japan and take your cores back during the Sakhalin war. Then you give them to Japan.
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>don't have any stakes in this war
>still can't get a peace deal
>can't change my national value because I'm at war
What should I change my NV to when this ends lads?
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I think I might have overdone it
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>>149260385
Equality
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>>149260224
There aren't so many of them today tho
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>>149260385
Order.
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>>149260427
Eh, like 17-18 million right? That's 10 more million than Swedes
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>>149260421
Any reason in particular? The culture and militancy bonuses are pretty nice I guess
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>>149259559
HPM, as I was making Somalian flags, I run across this poster, which makes me think Somalia perhaps should have an irredentist decision for both communist and fascist governments that lets it claim Ogaden, if it doesn't have it already.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Somalia
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>>148367197
From 1310 to 1326 the Catholic Church unwittingly aided and abetted the Eastern Reformation by means of a string of incompetent or otherwise corrupt Pontiffs. Later historians would characterize this period of Papal weakness as a major factor which prepared the ground for the Eastern Reformation, with good reason.

Gregorius XI, who was Pontiff from 1310 to 1315, was elected solely for his familial relations within the Empire; he hardly knew the bible, certainly never behaved as if he did, and was even rumored to have been possessed by a demon. His reign was marked by debauchery and excess of all forms, particularly of cruelty. Gregorius certainly earned himself no friends, and all were glad when they found him dead, slumped over a cup of wine. His rule had been an embarrassment to the Church, one which the College of Cardinals hoped to correct.

Unfortunately for the future of the Church, it was not to be. The same Imperial politics which saw Gregorius XI raised to the Papacy played out again in 1315, this time to an even more disastrous end, for the election of ex-Holy Roman Emperor Silvester V was widely decried even by zealous Catholics. In Silvester the church crossed a grievous line; many sons of Kings and Emperors had been raised before, some of them not truly qualified for the position of Pontiff, but all shared in common that their lives had been given to the Church from the start. The life of Silvester V had not; as Adolf von Schauenburg, Silvester had waged war, entered matrimony, sired children, and, worst of all, had ruled as a feudal lord prior to his abdication. He was Emperor before he was voice of God on Earth, and his election should not have even been possible--yet Adolf had always been skilled with money, and many greased pockets lined his way to the Papal throne.

And we're back!
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>>149260558
memes of course

On a serious note, it depends on what you want to do. Order for conquest, productivity for pure industry, liberty if you want to be liberal, autocracy if you want to stay reactionary, equality if you want socialism
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>>149260764
I'll do productivity. China is still getting fucked by rebels, they're primarily who I'll be fighting, and I don't think I'll need the Order bonuses to fight an unciv
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>>149260385
Productivity, and make sure to annex Korea for maximum coal mining
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>tfw free market is ruining your economy
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HPM, are you sure Tanzania shouldn't have any rubber RGOs?
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>>149260675
welcome back aarnon
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>>149260941
You need a better industry before you can go for the lazy fair meme. I'd wait until like 1870
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>>149261018
I didn't go, my pops elected it
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>>149260542
More like 10-11 million
There are more people living in Istanbul than in all of Greece
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Lushun acquired
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>>149261129
Pretty sure you're a monarchy lad
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>>149261129
Can't you switch parties?
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Guard or Infantry in HPM? I heard in HPM guards were straightly an upgrade to infantry
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>japan is united
I think I'm going to get fucked soon

>>149261253
Guards are an upgrade, but they have to be accepted pops
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>>149261165
Just take Sakhalin and those borders will be perfect 2bh
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>>149261213
>>149261221
I had to wait 2 months because I recently changed it.

>>149261253
They are an improvement over infantry, os guards if you can afford.
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>>149261331
>>149261350
That and the little Russian part of one of your regions, both will have to wait a long time tho
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>>149261331
No suck their dick hard and they'll sphere you, they have 0 reasons to attack you this early
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>>149260675
Silvester's money-grubbing, like the cruelty of his predecessor, endeared him to no one, and matters only worsened as the Pontiff neared the end of his life. Indebted to the lord who had allowed him to serve as Bishop, King Otto III of Castille, when Otto's relative Sunifred of Livonia was threatened by pagans, in spite of the vast distance and questionable gains, Silvester was forced to call a Crusade in repayment--a Crusade on which he died, leaving the Papa throne to the dull Alexander IV. Although Alexander at least behaved as a Pontiff should, with the beginning of his reign tied up in his predecessor's unpopular Crusade his rule was undermined, and the already slow Pope was left incapable of responding to the Messalian threat in its infancy.

This weakness ended shortly after the election of Benedictus X, who, while unorthodox and bordering the heretical himself for claiming divine inspiration from Jesus, was nevertheless a far more capable Pope than his predecessors. Although all Catholics were alarmed by the spread of Messalianism, not all understood the entirety of what the heresy represented. Benedictus did.

Just under a year after his election Benedictus called a council of bishops in Rome with the intent of formulating a response to the Eastern Reformation. After two months of intense deliberations, the result of the council was the Papal Bull "De Hereticae," or "Of the woman-heretics," an obvious allusion to Messalianism's unseemly emphasis on the equality of genders.

In the Bull, Benedictus excommunicated "in perpetuity" all "followers of Lucifer," with no hope of "redemption in Christ, regardless of any willingness on the part of the Heretic to convert." The Bull clarified the Church's doctrine of treating the Messalian faith as one of Satan worship, and was the first document to refer to Bourgogne I as the Antichrist, which went on to become perpetual Church doctrine.

This move was one Bourgogne expected. The true surprise came next.
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>>149261495
>>149261350
I'm trying to unite China senpai
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>>149261331
Show us your anarcho liberal party
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>>149261576
>not doing a Manchuria for the Manchus run
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>>149261604
xD good meme
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>>149260194
>some rinky dink provincial backwater is better than the capital of the Roman Empire
Yes
>and one of the holiest cities on the planet
>holy
lmao
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>>149261707
>the seat of God's appointed ruler on Earth
>not holy land
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>>149261696
ah yes the ""historical"" """"project"""" """"""""mod""""""""
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>>149261931
>>149261696
That's vanilla you dumb faggots, blame Johan
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>>149261931
t. memer
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Honestly I think this Manchuria is more aesthetic anyway
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>>149261993
No, it isn't. I added that decision.
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>>149262118
They're talking about the party name
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>>149261787
>a city can be considered holy
That's semitic "muh jeroosalem" tier anon
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>>149262118
I think they're talking about that anarcho liberal party name HPM
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>>149260613
They get cores there anyway to keep the somalians there from assimilating.

>>149260962
I don't know. Rubber is frequently overproduced so I'm not that worried.

>>149262209
Yeah, I realized that a few seconds ago.
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Satsuma is independent still somehow

>>149262118
He means the Anarcho-Liberal party's name
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>>149262237
>A city can't be holy
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>>149262237
>cities can't be holy
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>always groom first son to become a leader
>other sons have to be beta bookworm priests

is this gamey tactics?
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>>149257565
Imagine being a guy who survived. You could be a 6/10, and have 3 10/10's at once
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>Height of the Taiping Rebellion
>justify on taiping
>qing grants me access
>marching to their capital
>I don't even get there
>hey we want out
Nice, now to do the same with the qing
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>>149262457
>Paraguay
>10/10's
lad...
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>>149261554
Following the Council of Rome two of the leading figures of the "Eastern Religions," Ecumenical Patriarch Nikephoros II and Patriarch Adarnase of Georgia, agreed to a meeting on the border between their two realms, in Trebizond, to articulate their responses to the Messalian reformation.

The views of the Council of Rome swayed the two Patriarchs, and the outcome of the so-called "Eastern Conference" was unexpectedly harsh. For creeds which had long abstained from aggression toward other forms of Christianity (and, indeed, had even come to be somewhat well-known for their tolerance), the verdict of the Council was a serious reversal in policy.

While they did not advocate Crusades to bring down Messalianism nor accuse Bourgogne I of being the Antichrist as Benedictus X had, they nevertheless did accuse all Messalians of Satan worship, of a "uniform lack of morality and an equally uniform embracing of sexual deviance," and of "upsetting the order established by Eve in the Garden of Eden, by seeking to wash away the presence of the First Sin from the body of women." They both referred to Messalianism as a "malignant heresy" and both further advocated "marches of the faithful" to "cure the blight wheresoever it might spring up."

With almost the entirety of Christianity setting themselves against Messalianism, both Bourgogne I and Bourgogne II agreed that a clarification of position was required for the Messalian faith. They decided upon a conference in Istria, to be begun as soon as representatives from Jerusalem could arrive.
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>>149262237
based r/atheism
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Am I allowed to post football manager here yet?
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>>149262536
>>149262386
>>149262371
based /pol/ muslims
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>>149262613
belongs in the 4x general laddo
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>>149262689
"No"
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>>149262613
No.
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How the fuck CAN cities be considered holy like what does that actually entail?
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>>149262613
Yes but only if it's related to various /gsg/ memes. I was going to post something from my Wilhelm Pirates! playthrough but it wasn't cool enough.
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Don't make me torch it, I don't want yo fuck you anymore you already are with the Taiping still around.
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>>149262773
I mean HOW can people STILL be religious after going through our marxist school system?!?!

HELLO?? It's 2016!!!
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What should my last reform(s) be?
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>>149262924
I never get this fucking decision for some reason. Same goes for the Destruction of the Eiffeltower decision.
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>>149263017
FREE railroads lad
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>>149262773
You literally have no idea what you're talking about lad
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>>149263118
>95% civilization progress
lad why
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Im starting a Sindh>Pakistan game
Islamic gommunism y/n
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>>149263051
You need to occupy Peking.
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>>149263017
which ever will get you to 100% as fast as possible without wasting progress
ie, 2 10% or 1 20%
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>>149263315
Well 1 20% is always better since it will result in less militancy
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>>149263254
Obviously. I've occupied it many times as Japan.
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>>149262530
After weeks of harsh travel on a cold sea, Bourgogne II--who did not know she was pregnant when she set sail from Jerusalem--and her Patriarch, Louis, arrive at Duino on the Istrian coast (the same place the armies of Bourgogne I landed, as it so happens) for the meeting with Bourgogne I and her Patriarch, Bruno of Volterra, for the first Messalian "Grand Congress."

In truth, the Grand Congress involved the Patriarchs very little (they were present more for appearances than anything) and instead consisted of a duel between Bourgogne the Elder and Bourgogne the Younger over the direction Messalianism should take in the future.

Bourgogne the Younger favored an attempt to rehabilitate the image of the Messalian faith without changing any of its core doctrines, mostly by explaining the Messalian distinction between Lucifer and the traditional Christian Satan, and by forcing all Messalians to swear an oath not to take up arms against another Christian for any purpose of religion.

Bourgogne the Elder, on the other hand, was in a fury over the decisions of Rome and Trebizond, and while she favored some clarifications on certain matters of Messalian doctrine while the Patriarchs were present, she mostly sought to turn the Messalian faithful against their fellow Christians "just as the Pope and the other Patriarchs have done to us."

While Bourgogne the Younger dissented from her mother's opinion strongly, she held nowhere near the influence of her mother over the religion that she had effectively revived single-handedly. She could do little more than extract a concession that the Congress clarify that Lucifer was a benign entity in the Messalian faith, while Bourgogne the Elder pushed through many reforms: a ban on incest in the Messalian creed, a reinforcing of Messalianism's inherent equality of gender, and a call for all Messalians to "meet the steel of hateful Christians with steel of our own, that the true faith of God might be spread."
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>>149263247
>Pakistan
>Communism
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>>149263152
>ask a question
>lol you don't understand thats funny
What?
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Anyone ever play this?

Command Modern Air Naval Warfare, its a military simulation game supposedly on par with government tier simulators, but it costs far too much on steam.

The game was made and then licensed out to a third party, who sell/market the game.. and they decided its worth like 90$... and they are massive cunts who you shouldnt give any money to.

Anyways, I finally got a copy the other day for free, but it said on the website that it should be 6 gigs and its only like 2.something before its put together.

Worried its a virus, scanned it and it doesnt raise any flags.. but it hasnt been put together.
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>>149262501
What are you using memearrows for, anon? Everyone knows that Paraguayans are beautiful
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>>149263505

Forgot pic.

Id consider it a grand strategy, although not a traditional one. Its pretty much a modern full scale war simulator.

Price is the only thing holding it back from being huge if you ask me.
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>>149262263
Are you kidding me lad
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>>149263505
>>149263697

Also says v1.0 which is kinda a red flag.
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we modern now

Where is the "Form China" decision?
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HPM, could you add an event for Portugal that gives them a demand concession CB against Matalebe if they blobbed early into Gaza after Transvaal spawns?
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>>149263870
An old adjective was still around.

Where are their capital though, that can only happen if they can't control the straits.


>>149263954
The events to get that land don't check if it's Gaza only, it can fire for anyone.
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>>149263697
>>149263505
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>>149263915
Doesn't exist since Manchuria can't form China.
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>>149264064
HPM are you ever going to code the Rothschild family into the game?
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>>149264098
>>149263697
>>149263505

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt0sjedCNPE

Falklands video
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>>149264112
I'm part of the cultural union, it shows on my map and I've got the Chinese Reunification CB. It doesn't really make sense that I wouldn't be able to form China
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>>149263915
Think you need N&I
Or wait the warlord era
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>>149264064
HPM

what's next on your to-do list now that the economy is fixed
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>>149264361
>economy is fixed
wew
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>>149263421
The outcome of the "Reaction," as the rapid succession of Christian councils from 1327-1328 would later be called, was to radicalize the myriad branches of Christianity against Messalianism, and vice-versa. Catholic, Orthodox, and Apostolic rulers were all inherently opposed to Messalianism due to its worship of Lucifer, but also due to its (deserved) reputation for moral laxity and its intentional attempts to undermine the perception of original sin lying with Eve.

Bourgogne I, meanwhile, was inherently opposed to all other Christian religions due to their patriarchal natures, and, ever-envious, was inclined to attempt to meet conflict with conflict whenever the opportunity presented itself. The first Messalian Grand Congress infuriated practitioners of other creeds, for it appeared to reinforce the unreasonability of Messalianism, and to encourage them to consider it a mere tool of foolish women--or, in the case of Benedictus X, of the Antichrist herself.

Nevertheless, Bourgogne II was able to do some good at the Congress. Her insistence that the Messalian position on Lucifer be clarified did pacify some (although precious few) Messalian opponents, and opened the door to cooperation with at least some Christian states. Although it appeared that a period of significant religious strife was upcoming, the Grand Congress nevertheless had that one ray of hope: that there might still be Christian cooperation in the face of the upcoming storm.
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>>149264064
Hey HPMguy how about changing the french events for Indochina conquest so they fire for anyone who hold Saigon?
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Reminder that freedom is a spook
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HPM, there should be a decision to change names of Korean cities to Japanese ones, like the one Seoul got. And maybe something related to major Korean industrialisation during Japanese colonial rule.
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First time playing ck+, should I create a latin patriach supreme or let orthodox and catholicism form?
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>>149264816
This desu. There should really be more events and decisions about Korean and Taiwanese development and attempts at assimilation
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Who actually would be the King of Ireland if the UK granted Ireland full independence in 1836?
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>>149265363
probably a fucking potato or something :DD
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>>149237604
Or even worse, it fires but Castile gets it.
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>>149264479
In late March, almost immediately after Bourgogne II's return from Istria and the depressing outcome of the first Grand Congress, she traveled to ar-Raqqah, the seat of Duc Lothaire de Thouars, her Chancelier and most powerful vassal, for a reception. Although the visit was initially merely meant to be a formal ceremony--and, indeed, although Bourgogne was at this time seven months pregnant with her third child with Renato--her madness seized upon her that night, and she threw all caution to the wind in a burst of ecstatic revelry. In spite of her pregnancy she drank like a warrior, and engaged in acts of a most questionable nature.

On the morrow, with a pounding headache hanging over her like a cloud, Bourgogne asked the Duc's other guests--some half-dozen in all--what she had done the night before. Although they left out her stripping nude, they did smirk slightly when they mentioned to her that she "pulled out a spear and sat upon it." Her own blushing smile gave her the lie; she remembered what had occurred the night before as well as they did, and thanked the Lord that she was already pregnant.

Although Lothaire appeared amused by her behavior, himself being a well-known drunkard, Bourgogne was not. She had defiled the marriage that bound her to her beloved Renato, all over a night of drink and madness. She was not even a Perfect, and could not claim she was not morally culpable!

Yet... she had enjoyed it. It was wrong to admit it, but it was the truth.
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Reddit is based.

Prove me wrong.
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>>149264064
When are you going to add destroyers to the game nigga? I demand an explanation.
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>>149265686
>Implying the most based empire ever getting more land is bad
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>>149265915
looks like a fag tb h lmao
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>>149265921
Your mom's vag is already home to the most based empire ever, in military might and tourism
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>>149266291
I wonder who might be behind this post
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Is Italy a good first country to play in DARKEST HOUR ??

Also is it worth playing if I've already played the life out of HoI4?
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>>149266398
haha that's fcking sick /b/ro!1!!!
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>>149266506
No reason to play any other HoI having HoI4, don't waste your time and pretend they never existed.
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>>149266506
This >>149266672
You should also buy the season pass, so you can support paradox in making more content and dlc.
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>>149266672
>>149266809
If you want to recommend DH then answer my question. I already bought the fucking thing. Is Italy good?
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>>149266909
Why would you buy DH when you can buy HoI4 instead?
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>>149265814
Welcome back dude. Catching up now, keep it up.
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>>149266909
Can't you read? If you want to play DH that much, I guess Italy is fine, since it's the tutorial country in HoI4. But I don't see why would you want to play DH over HoI4.
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>>149266506
Germany is better. Italian divisions were historically smaller than others but more numerous.
DH actually models that.
Your divisions are fucking garbage.
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>>149266975
Because I already pirated the piece of shit. Why be a gay cunt when you can help me out?
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>>149267038
No worries, I've got a lot of material ready to go. I should be posting for several more hours at the least.
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WTF is this bullshit
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>>149267187
I sorta want a weaksauce country so I don't feel like a mess when I fuck it all up. I don't want to world conquest like in hoy hoy, I want a good challenge. Good for that?
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>>149267252
le railroad meme amirite?? XDD

>>>/r/paradoxplaza This way, please.
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>>149267252
Its too far m8
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>happening in Munich
Bavaria independence when?
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>>149265814
She looks cute in that helmet, creepy smile and all.
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How is Spain in HPM?
They have lots of iron and some coal, a somewhat decent population base but pretty garbage literacy.
Enjoyed my last Ottomans campaign, how much easier/harder is Spain?

>>149267320
Try Canada if you feel spooked. You get to practice basically every mechanic in the game as Canada.
Go for France if you feel like getting your teeth kicked in.
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>>149264170
Events related to them? As long as they have a reasonable effect, sure.

>>149264361
Unciv-civs relation and maybe the dismantlement rework.

>>149264516
It's on the to-do list for some time now but I don't know when I will change it.

>>149264816
Japan already get too many of those and they kinda break the "english only" convention for naming stuff.

>>149265915
When I take at look at units and military.
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>>149267486
Spain is probably easier now that HPM fixed the Carlist/Christino revolts, but I'd wait until he releases the next update in which he said he would further tone them back so the AI could handle it better.
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>>149267426
Never. Bayrischer Freikorps shooting roaming bands of sandniggers in the streets soon though.
2 attacks in a week.
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>>149265814
Two months after her revelry in ar-Raqqah Bourgogne gave birth (after a long and hard labor, it must be admitted) to a son who was blessedly healthy, in spite of her heavy drinking that night. Indeed, the little one would go on to display intellect akin to that of his grandmother, although not close to that of Bourgogne herself, and she would always wonder, in the dark of night, whether her thirst had robbed him of an even greater mind.

But Renato was thrilled with the boy, and, though she still burned with shame over her deeds, she struggled to be happy alongside him. They agreed to name him Reynaud after his father, and although Renato believed it was a simple gesture, Bourgogne did not; for Bourgogne it was the only sort of redemption she could indulge in.
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>>149264170
Belfour Declaration is already in the game m80
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>>149267380
Railroading is just events m8, maybe you should learn what words mean before you make a fool of yourself.
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>>149267615
Have you considered renaming the arab names of your domain to something more christian or a French equivalent? Just to go full autism.
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>>149267380
but vic 2 with huepm is reddit's favorite game you dumb memer
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>>149267713
>>149267804
>waaa HPM is full of HISTORICAL EVENTS that won't let me do my EPIC ULM world conquest WTF????? vic 3 WHEN?? xDxD
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What's the current consensus on the optimal liquor army composition? Does HPM change anything about it?
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>>149267779
I'd love to, but I don't know French at all. Suggestions are welcome, but only realistic ones, and preferably transliterations of the extant Arabic (although I'll also accept wholly new names if there's reasonable context for why they would be chosen).
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>>149267426
Was los?
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>>149267905
4GUA/1HUS/4ART/1ENG
I dunno about armor and airplanes, but that'll get you through the whole game
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>>149267889
It seems you're a literal retard. I'm sorry you had to hear this from me.
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>>149267804
Sure thing m8
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>>149268085
fuck off reddit is based
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>>149267586
Thanks my man

>>149267989
Nicht er, aber anscheinend gibt's ein Feuergefecht in 'nem münchener Einkaufszentrum. Paar Leute sind schon tot.
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>>149268062
>says someone that plays EU4 and HoI4

lmao
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXGUNvIFTQw

Aragorn is based HPM defending off reddit
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>>149268128
t. reddit
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>>149268319
They were the bad guys though.
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>>149267615
Shortly after the birth of her grandson Reynaud, Imperatrice Bourgogne undertook to make a fateful decision: she declared the first offensive Messalian Holy War. Bolstered by the decisions of the Grand Congress (which she had wholly dominated), Bourgogne the Elder was fully within her rights to declare war against her fellow Christians, even if Bourgogne the Younger hated the decision.

For almost two full years Bourgogne II retreated to Jerusalem yet again. She spoke rarely to anyone outside the palace, save those who carried news of the war (which, out of protest, she refused to support). She spent a great deal of time locked in her council chambers with Patriarch Louis of Jerusalem and the heretofore unknown (but quite brilliant) Bishop Aba of Antioch, but she did not reveal to her cynic of a husband what they discussed; she knew well that he would not care. It did worry Renato, however, that his wife was so consumed by the war her mother had begun, and that Bishop Aba almost always looked nervous when he left Jerusalem to return to Antioch.

Nevertheless, the years, for a while, passed in relative quiet. Bourgogne was often occupied with Patriarch Louis during the day, but in the late afternoon and evening she was almost always in the arms of Renato. Although she still felt great guilt over ar-Raqqah and did not stray from Renato again, ever since events there she had become quite hard to satisfy, and Renato was forced to go to great lengths to accommodate her. It is no surprise, then, that she was soon pregnant once again.

She gave birth to their fourth child (and third son) Othon, before her mother's war in Hungary came to its conclusion.
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>>149268339
t. rob
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Reminder that if Paradox takes a look to a mod for stuff to add in Victoria 3, that mod will be PDM.
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>>149268557
Little more than 100 years till the end, lad. Better take the Fertile Crescent before that if you don't plan on following this to EU4.
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>>149256505
>>149256505


Can someone do a dutch one of these?
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Love how much flavour Persia has tbqh
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>>149268557
Your character has the most annoying smile I've ever seen
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>1850
>Rank 7
>People still can't buy wool fucking blankets
Bravo
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>>149268968
>filename
>1936
what did he mean by this
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>>149265363
There was a few old families kicking around I think, though most of the land was probably taken up by the English aristocracy. I'm sure if they had actually been independent they could have found someone.
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Thanks Garibaldi, go kick the pope's ass.
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>>149269130
Fuck off steamgroup
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>>149268881
We'll see if a Crusade gets declared for it or not. If not, I'm not sure I will move in that direction. Bourgogne II isn't likely to, at the least, considering she's a slothful hedonist. She's not inclined to do much of anything, unless she must.

>>149268946
Being a lunatic will do that to you.
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>>149268968
>Irish
>People
What did he mean by this
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>>149268905
Probably because HPM is a persian-german muslim
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>>149264064
Fair enough then.
Also, why does the Hormuz Strait modifier only pops up in 1880? I've own both Qeshm and Khasab for about 30 years.
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>>149269260
>I'm not sure I will move in that direction
In my opinion it's the only natural path of expansion as Jerusalem. After that, the entire Arab peninsula, but that's getting one foot into memeland.
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>>149269130
>>149269192
Oops, I read Grandi instead of Garibaldi, sorry.
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We Beijing now
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>>149268968
>it's a rob post
what did he mean by this
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>>149269304
>Maghreb Union
>Arab Union
>no Iberian Union

She really is muslim
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>>149269352
I don't really want to expand the Kingdom itself too much further. I do have an avenue I want to pursue, but after that I'm not looking to make Jerusalem itself any larger. If a Crusade is called or I have a particularly militaristic King I might attempt to declare enough wars to raise a sister Kingdom up, though.
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>>149269518
>HPM
>she
HPM is cute
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>>149269304
Totally.
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FACT: Turkic people are the greatest conquerors of all time
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>>149269691
>tfw mayaka will never return
why live

>>149269761
Mongoloid*
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>>149268557
In early November of the year of Othon's birth, Imperatrice Bourgogne's war was successful. The Catholic world was shocked, for most of the King of Hungary's neighbors had sided with his rebellious vassal in his foreign conflict, eager as they were to throw out the Satanists. Yet they had failed.

Most shocked of all was Queen Bourgogne II. She had intended to make an announcement after the failure of her mother's war, not its success. She had long heard that the news from Hungary was good, but had anticipated a capitulation of rebel forces to the Hungarian crown, which would have forced her mother to call off the conflict lest she face a united Hungarian Kingdom. That capitulation never came, however, and instead the over-proud Hungarian lords permitted Bourgogne to gain a significant demesne in Nyitra--and, moreover, to underscore the potential weakness of the Catholic faith against the Messalian Reich.

With some reluctance, Bourgogne II called a meeting of Patriarch Louis and Bishop Aba to Jerusalem to begin modifying their intended announcement. It, by needs, had now to take on an entirely new dimension.
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>>149269761
[X] Respectfully agree
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>>149268557
how did you make it so messalians can holy war?
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>>149269852
Why is Mayaka so pretty? Is it because she looks like a small Arab boy?
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>>149268085
search for hpm in the sidebar
have fun
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>>149269878
It was beyond simple, I just didn't know what I was doing:
>>149259332
>>149259496
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Can we agree on this?
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>>149269418
Are you still planning on uniting China?
because this would look pretty based 2bh
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>>149269192
you do know that the two original multiplayer steamgroups don't give a shit about the thread anymore, and that radical yugoslavia is dead at this point, right
>>
>>149269434
>>it's a rob post
what did he mean by this
>>
>>149270262
Yeah, I'm going to unite China if I can. I don't even have cores on that Russian land anymore
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>>149269691
>>149269852
Who's Mayaka?
t. newfig
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>>149270184
>Germany
>UK
>Canada
>USA that low
>Sweden
>Russia that high
>Spain that low
>Japan that high
>Netherlands that low
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>>149270062
Oh, there he is!
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>>149270407
t. >>149270119
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>>149270407
Mayaka was HPM's online girlfriend for a while, he eventually dropped her after he found out she had given other people her nudes and they leaked all over the place.
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>>149270184
epic
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>>149270543
kek
>>
Historical Project Mod - Version 0.3.5.3 for HOD 3.04 - 22/07/2016. NOT Save Game Compatible with. All minimods are NOT compatible.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4tg759xm10lbhgq/HPM%200.3.5.3.7z

Mirror: https://mega.nz/#!eA4zlAoS!dkZkZMFUFWhCevzOi8ZTFPk3IBArCK4yuqAauprPD5c

Changelog is in the pastebin http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>149269310
It's to represent the place not being so important early game.
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>>149270703
Based HPM.
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>>149270703
>All minimods are NOT compatible.
I have no idea what you mean by this. Which ones are compatible? Also a guy had updated RDS a few threads ago, is that still compatible? I'm still using the HPM version that was out when he updated it because I love RDS
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>>149270587
pics pls
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>>149270845
>All minimods are NOT compatible.
>I have no idea what you mean by this.
>Which ones are compatible?
>All minimods are NOT compatible.

Holy shit reddit
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>>149269860
In June of 1331 Bourgogne the Younger launched her coup by calling the second Messalian Grand Congress, set to take place in Antioch at the beginning of August. The timetable for the Congress was calculated, for her mother could not leave the Reich so soon after a protracted conflict, nor while she was still expected to oversee her new holdings. A furious Bourgogne the Elder, who suspected all-too-well what her daughter intended, nevertheless dispatched the Reich's new Patriarch, the twenty-two year old Gerberge de Zobor, to Antioch as representative of the Reich.

Bourgogne II had initially intended the second Congress to be a peacemaking effort, where the Messalian position was further clarified and their offensive tendencies, established in the first Congress, were neutered. Yet with her mother's victory Bourgogne II was willing to admit that the other Christian sects might not be so powerful as she had once imagined, and decided instead to use the Congress to centralize Messalianism under the authority of the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

The major theological debate of the second Congress concerned incest, which had been condemned in the first Congress. With the influence of Bourgogne I distant, however, Bourgogne II--who was always more orthodox than her mother--was able to partially reverse the verdict of the first Congress by reaching a compromise position. In the theology established by the second Congress incest was acknowledged as sacred, but in compensation it was agreed that incest could only be practiced once every other generation.

Yet the most important matter of the second Congress was political: the raising up of Bishop Aba of Antioch to the position of Patriarch of the whole faith. Although it left Bourgogne I fuming, Bourgogne II was able to strong-arm Patriarch Gerberge into acknowledging the religious supremacy of the Patriarch of Antioch, which effectively left the rulers of Jerusalem in control of the future of the Messalian faith.
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>>149270845
It means the minimods shouldn't be compatible. They can be, but I didn't test it and probably aren't.

It will still work with that updated RDS and I actually wrote it wrong, the new version is compatible with games form 0.3.5.2. Probably.
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>>149270850
>implying I'm gonna post CP
Mayaka was 14 or 15 at the time lad
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>>149270703
>Changed FACTORY_PAYCHECKS_LEFTOVER_FACTOR from 0.3 to 0.25, same value as vanilla.
what did he meme by this
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>>149270703
>Refuting Manifest Destiny as Mexico should not give any additional cores besides what they start with.

What cores did they lose?
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>>149270845
link for that RDS?
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>>149271025
They used to get cores in all of Oklahoma and Colorado, now they only get on what they start with.
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>>149271114
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/146329882/#q146358673
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>>149270184
No, this is objectively correct.
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>>149271127
HPM do you do it for free or can I donate some leftover bucks for my favorite mod?
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>>149271127
Why?
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>>149271301
>GET OUT OF HERE STALKER
>Serbia
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there's not a more beautiful sight
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>>149271306
I don't take donations. My job pays more than I can spend my money on.

If you want to donate, donate to Toady:
http://www.bay12games.com/support.html
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>>149271409
Because you shouldn't get more cores than you originally start with when refuting manifest destiny.
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>>149270703
So does the chinese has a chance to westernize in this release?
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>>149271456
>tfw i wasn't going to donate a dime and only wanted a (You) from HPM-sama
Daisuki, sensei!
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>>149271613
They almost always westernize.
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>>149271456
>>149271306
Why haven't the steamgroup memed this yet?
Not that I want them to, but they've been terrorising us for months.
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>>149270957
Bourgogne the Elder was not so upset with her daughter as she expected she would be. Although the second Grand Congress did embrace the incestuous heritage of Messalianism against the will of the Imperatrice, at the very least Bourgogne the Younger did not attempt to reverse Messalianism's growing militancy. Indeed, although Gerberge's acknowledgement of Aba as the Euchite Patriarch was unfortunate, his ascendancy might, in time, prove to be useful indeed. To the surprise of Bourgogne the Younger, then, Bourgogne the Elder acknowledged the second Grand Congress as legitimate and pledged not only to hold to its determinations, but to accept the Euchite Patriarchy as the legitimate chief of the Messalian faith.

This was, however, not undertaken without some degree of arm-twisting; Bourgogne the Elder had not forgotten her nature, after all. In return for accepting the second Grand Congress, Bourgogne the Elder demanded the full military support of her daughter in a planned invasion of Italy, with hostilities scheduled to begin at the beginning of the campaign season in 1334. The price, as Bourgogne II saw it, was a small one to pay in return for her mother's continued support.

When the war began, however, Bourgogne II grew concerned over its scope. The Magyar conflict her mother had been involved in previously had involved only the Hungarian states, but this new conflict not only involved most of northern Italy, but also Denmark and the remnants of the Magyar crown, threatening the Reich's borders on three sides. Renato, too, was concerned, and openly questioned whether it would be wise to land Jerusalemite forces in Italy, where some 50,000 or more Catholic forces were said to be massing, if Bourgogne the Elder could not even defend the fullness of her borders.

But Bourgogne II had given her word, and the armies of Jerusalem were committed.
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>>149271613
I didn't change anything in regards to that. Largely depends on how fucked they get in wars.
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>>149271583
>"Hey give me land"
>*gets wrecked*
>"Hey you can't take any of my land in retaliation even though its a fraction of what I tried to take from you and it's pretty much unpopulated that would be unfair and blobbing"

I just don't see what the problem is, it's like 3-4 provinces and less than 10k pops total.
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>>149271792
Lad that pic is more of a meme that maps unHPM posts
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>>149271818
You can take the land, though, you just need to use the acquire state CB.
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>>149271818
You can still take the land, you don't even need another war. If you just refuse to give back uncored land when the event pops up, you keep the whole states. You just don't get free cores in it.
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>>149271252
Thanks.
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>>149271456
>My job pays more than I can spend my money on.
gob moni plox
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>>149271876
1920s/30s Asia was all one giant meme
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>>149271876
>china didn't have a warlord era
FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING STEAMGROUP SHITTERS EVERY FUCKING DAY YOU MEME THE SAME FUCKING SHIT YOU MEME OUR BOY HPM AND ALL HE DOES IS MAKE A GREAT MOD FOR FREE AND YOU FUCKING MODS SHIT ALL OVER WHATEVER HE DOES BECAUSE YOU HONESTLY THINK THIS IS A CONSTRUCTIVE USE OF YOUR TIME SHITTING ON HPM FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING STEAMGROUP FUCKIGN KOJAK BOBO TURDLAYER FAYSAL FUCKING SHIT FUCK YOU WULF DER STURM FUCK YOU ALL FUCK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH YOU FUCKING SHIT FACE FUCKING MEMER I WANT TO FUCKING KILL YOU ALL RIGHT FUCKING NOW I HATE YOU ALL SO FUCKING MUCH YOU HAVE NO PLACE HERE OR ANYWHERE ELSE YOU FUCKIGN DISGUSTING PIECE OF TRASH WHY CANT YOU JUST LEAVE US ALONE AND GO PLAY EU4 ALREADY YOU FUCKING MEME SPOUTING TUMOUR NIGGER SHIT FUCK YOU FUCK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH FUCK OFF BACK TO ROBMOD AND FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR FUCKING REDDIT TIER MP GAMES YOU FUCKING SHIT CUNT NIGGER FUCK YOU ALL SO FUCKING MUCH I HATE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BREATH YOU DESERVE TO DIE A SLOW PAINFUL DEATH EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU WHY WONT YOU JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY YOUVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FUCKING YEARS NOW AND ITS TOO FUCKING MUCH WITH YOUR FUCKING LUQUOR SHIT AND YOUR GRANDI MEME AND WHATEVER OTHER SHIT YOU COME UP WITH BECAUSE YOUR MODS ARE ALL FUCKING TERRIBLE SHIT THAT BUFFS AUSTRAI SO ROB CAN JOIN IN YOUR FUCKING WANK FEST SHIT FLINGING MEMING FUCKING CANCER
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>>149272362
Nice false flag
Reminds me of pic related
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>>149271301
>Bytantines
>No Rome
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>>149271951
>If you just refuse to give back uncored land when the event pops up, you keep the whole states. You just don't get free cores in it.
For that you first have to lose the land to the US in a war and then take it back in a second. So you are basically getting punished for not being bad by being required to spend 10 infamy on a couple deserted provinces that you would get for free if you exploited a quirk in the game by losing a war on purpose.
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>>149272362
>just because it happened in real life means it's not a meme
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>>149271759
As it so happened, the warning of Renato proved to be prophetic.

Italy was, perhaps, the last true bastion of Catholicism, with dozens of minor lords and mayors as willing to raise arms in the name of the faith as the great Ducs and Doges. When the army under Duc Roger of Acre arrived in Venezia they dispersed 10,000 Catholic forces, then another 10,000, then 5,000 more, until, finally, demoralized and suffering from attrition in the hinterland, they were caught by a Catholic force almost twice their size. The men of Jerusalem fought fiercely, but the Catholics forces, overwhelmingly supplied by the wealthy Doges of Italy, largely consisted of crack mercenary troops, of the same kind King Aubry had used all those years before to defeat the Mongols. If only Bourgogne II had remembered his lesson: in the face of well-trained troops led by mighty generals, even a goliath might fall.

In Italy, Jerusalem was subjected to the greatest defeat it had ever faced in the Aleramici age. Crushed with barely any challenge in the Battle of Este and harried at Padua before they could load onto their ships, only 8,000 of the more than 46,000 Jerusalemite forces which had landed in Italy made it back home. It was an unmitigated catastrophe for the Messalian forces, one which not only humiliated Bourgogne II, but also left her without the levy forces which helped to secure her reign from threat.
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>>149272356
>Ma Family
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>>149265915
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
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I updated the CK2 DLC pack in the archive because it was missing the south indian portraits DLC.
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>>149270975
Can you have a look at the france minimod now for me lad?
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>>149272885
If I use the DLCs with a legit base game and a legit steam account, will i die, will my account be shut down?
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>have N&I
>still no decision to form China
Will the Warlords event even fucking fire if I own all of China as Manchuria?
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>>149272908
You can do it yourself, just make sure you are not overwriting any updated files and if you are then add in the frankwank changes.
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>>149271951

Hi HPM,

Is there a way to change the CID for the UK to GBR or something along those lines? I'd love to play just as England, free from the Scots, Welsh, Taigs, and the colonies.
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>>149271442
>with the Ionian islands

how
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>>149273192
Qing dynasty --> Manchurian rule = Ming Dynasty right
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>buy Hearts of Iron IV
>literally Civ-tier simplicity

what went wrong?
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>>149273651
Civ 1-4 was good though
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>>149273758

I like Civ but always treated it as a board game not grand strategy. Ho4 is literally Civ tier in its details.
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>>149273758
So is V, memester. It's arguably the best in the series.
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>>149273651
Parajews need to cater to all the CKII/EUIV goys who made them rich after the GoT mod. I can't wait until they do it to Vicky 3 and end up pissing off Reddit and Paradox forums. Even they are not happy about the way Hoi4 turned out.
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>>149272669
The defeat of Jerusalem's forces in Italy spelled a disastrous end to the war. With invasions from the north, east, and south, Bourgogne the Elder was forced to admit defeat. She bought her peace, but at the truly high price of 1,000 gold marks, four times a King's ransom. Bourgogne the Younger paid the debt off for her mother without any real concern--Jerusalem's fabled wealth is not understated--but the defeat cost the Messalians more than just coin.

In the wake of the first Messalian defeat, there was a clear loss of confidence among the faithful. What had previously been victory after victory (for the Duc of Saxony and King of Bohemia had both won great victories against the King of Poland in the east in their own holy wars) had suddenly turned to terrible defeat, one which left both the Reich and the Kingdom of Jerusalem dangerously weak. The great body of the faithful was not yet in danger, but that a defeat so catastrophic could happen to the chosen religion at all was disconcerting.

Several years would be spent making peace with Italy, each soul--lord or peasant, warrior or king, priest or layman--coming to grips with the realization that reforming the entirety of Europe, if it were destined to occur at all, would take a very, very long time.
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>>149273960
treddit
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>>149273758
He wasn't talking about quality of the game, he was complaining about the simplicity of it and Civ games aren't really complex.

Though either most gsgs. I don't know why would anyone find V2, CK2 or others complex
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>>149273406
Wait for the UK to give to greece
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>>149274301
>I don't know why would anyone find V2 complex
trob
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Are there any "mod tools/utilities" for creating mods?
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Right, so as an experiment I gave myself all techs and everything China has a core on
I guess you just can't form China as Manchuria?
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>>149274439
t.reddit
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>>149274680
The only way that'd make sense is if you became the Qing, since they were basically Manchurian led China.
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>>149274385
I waited for the UK to give them back to greece before I started taking their clay
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>>149274680
that's called Qing, who already did what you just did.
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>>149268905
Post more screens.

>>149267561
So what did you think of the suggestion about centralization reforms by the way? It was a huge issue during all of the period and a major cause of conflicts throughout the world: Venezuela, Mexico, Spain, Austria-Hungary, Canada and so on. Gives more flavor, makes unciv/civs relations more dense and allows for more triggers.
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>>149273303
England exists in HPM, the tag is ENL.

>>149272908
Will do.

>>149272585
Then justify a CB for the rest of the state. Doesn't make any sense to get free cores there.

>>149274680
You can't form china as any of the chinese substates. Only Qing can. I don't know why NNM set it up like that, but that's how it works. If you want to form china as Manchuria, you need to find decision
form_china
in China.txt
and change
tag = QNG
to
tag = MCK
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>>149274694
t.urkslayer
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>>149274991
Can you change these events midgame or will the saves no longer be compatiable?
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>>149274857
Manchurians are as Chinese as any of the other Chinese ethnic groups. Not being able to form the cultural union as a substate doesn't make sense to me

>>149274991
Thanks, I'll try that
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I have been inspired by the morocco campaigns to do my own
taking oran and constantine first thing will prevent france from taking them
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>>149275093
You can
Or just fire the warlord era instead of doing it like a pussy
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>>149275093
changing the requirements to fire a decision won't break your save
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>>149275190
There's an event or a decision or something. I've seen them switch over to England after forcing them to get rid of Wales etc
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>>149274991
>England exists in HPM, the tag is ENL.
How do you actually form them? I tried realeasing Scotland, Ireland and Wales but it did nothing. Do I have to have no colonies?

Also, I'd like it if you could make England a releasable country. I wanted to play a Jew game as the city of London with the whole world controlled through puppets but I had to keep England.
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>>149274025
For Bourgogne, the answer was prayer. She was well aware that Messalian faithful were as morally culpable for their actions as any other Christians until they finally achieved perfection in God, yet over the past several years she had grown particularly unpleasant, both in appearance and manner. As the stress of the second Grand Congress and the terrible news from Italy had filtered in she had taken to overeating, and she was now grossly overweight. That had strained her once-blissful relationship with Renato, who, while too polite to say so, now found her form disgusting. That shame, in turn, gave her her newfound reputation for cruelty, as her own frustrations were taken out on others, particularly her courtiers. And, she was ashamed to admit, her children.

That ended now. The demon within her had begun to drag her down a terrible path, but all Messalian faithful knew that the demons of the soul could be defeated. Bourgogne had become a poor Queen, a poor wife, and a poor Messalian, but she had time yet to reverse that. As she took to fasting and intense prayer, she hoped that she might be able to beseech God, Lucifer, and Jesus to look more favorably upon their faithful from then on, so that they might not punish them so terribly again.
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>>149275093
You can, no problem.

>>149275190
There's a decision. Scotland and Ireland need to exist and they can't be your vassals.

It will show up then.
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What's the recommended mod for EUIV these days?
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>>>/qa/597916

LMAO r&i is super butthurt
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>>149275726
LOL U TROLLED HIM GUD BOBO
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>>149274991
>Will do.
Thanks.
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>>149275726
>r&i warned leftypol about the raid
>r&i also posts on /qa/
Is r&i also a SRS?
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>>149275897
SRS isn't the only one on /qa/. Devout rulefags like r&i post there too.
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Is this some new meme?
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>>149275897
what the fuck i love the steamgroup now
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>>149275367
hey before your hiatus I missed a day or two and by now it's gonna be impossible to find the posts
do you have like an imgur that you're uploading these too like the nappy one or do you compile those after?
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>>149275726
r&i is based
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>>149274439
You memers know Rob likes Vicky 2 right, otherwise he wouldn't make mods for it. And if he thought it was too simple he would make a more complex mod that adds in a lot of new features rather than the Vanilla+ that Robmod is.
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>>149276169
r&i is gay

cobra is based
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>>149276126
No, they're compiled after, and not by me (a kind anon does it).

You can find everything still in the fireden archive, though: https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/148331156/#148367197
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>>149275687
uninstall.exe

xD

le epic
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>>149276218
Rob hasn't worked on his shitty mod for months.
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>>149276272
t. cobra
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>>149276272
we are all based
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>>149274991
The only problem I have with your Mexico change is that is nothing more than a "no fun allowed" change, and you can't argue that your edit is more historical somehow because any refutation of Manifest Destiny is inherently unhistorical. It didn't subtract from the overall quality of the game so there was no need to make such a change.
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>>149275367
Bourgogne II's madness never left her, and colored her interactions with everyone around her. She could be the most brilliant woman one had ever spoken to, or she could be a spiteful, cruel, or even violent demon. Her Messalian vassals spoke often--although always behind her back--about the terrible strength of her demon, and wondered aloud whether or not it was put within her to offset her great intellect.

There was only one man in the realm who had always put up with her madness: her Chancelier and appointed Regent, Duc Lothaire. Even Renato did not tolerate her eccentricities so well as Lothaire did, for, as a man of drink, Lothaire understood better than any how a fey mood could suddenly take someone, to an unknown end.

Unfortunately for Lothaire, that sense of camaraderie would be his death.

Bourgogne's demon was furious that she was attempting to expel it, and, the more she fought it, the more vicious it became in the resisting. She thought that time spent with Lothaire would help to quiet the raging madness within her, but she miscalculated, terribly so. After their revelry, when Lothaire was sleeping peacefully on the table and Bourgogne herself was pleasantly sauced, with her will at its weakest, the demon rose up within her. It commanded her to do the worst possible thing, and not only that, but to do it to the only man she considered her friend: it told her to consume Lothaire.

And she did, as if she were famished. After a quick blow to the head with a candlestick the carving was easy. The fire roared in the hearth, and the meat cooked quickly. She ate as if famished, ate and ate until she vomited him up, and ate still more.

Only when the morn came, and with it sobriety, did she realize what the foul creature within her had made her do. Her hands covered in blood and her stomach digesting her only friend, she cried like a babe as she set to hiding the evidence. None could know, even though she deserved to burn for what she had done.
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Did conclave ruin the game or what? I have only heard bad things about it.
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>>149276619
Yes
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>>149276619
No
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>>149276619
Maybe
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>>149276218
he does think it's simple, he constantly makes posts filled with shitty logic on why vic 2's economy is "bad"
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>>149276786
>>149276843
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>>149275630
Can you respond to the rest:

>Also, I'd like it if you could make England a releasable country. I wanted to play a Jew game as the city of London with the whole world controlled through puppets but I had to keep England.
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>>149276619
No, it's pretty good.
People here bitch about it because they can't blob without consequences anymore.
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>>149277065
England is a "releasable" country, you just need to release scotland and ireland, not have them as puppets and you can change tag to them
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>>149277069
t. Wiz
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>>149276347
I didn't say otherwise.
>>149276924
Vic 2's economy is bad.
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>>149275189
France is at war with ottomens so maybe later they'll help me free tunisia
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>>149275630
Why does forming China makes you lose Mongolia and Tibet? Is there a way to assimilate them?

Also, did you do that decision to claim and get cores on Sakhalins as a westernized Qing like you said?
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>>149277242
t. rob "muh overproduction" boss
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>>149277065
Who are you quoting?
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>>149277391
t. schizo seeing bogeymen in every corner
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>>149275630
>>149277265
Also is there a way to assimilate Korea like Japan does without having to break puppet status then CB?
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I'm rob
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>>149276570
I missed the entire portion about why you converted to Messalianism, why did you convert and as a follow up why did you choose such a fucking weird and stupid heresy.
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>>149277536
>if you call me what i am you're a schizo
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>>149276570
Although Bourgogne was able to get the half-eaten corpse of her friend out of the cottage they had rented for their drinking (Lothaire had preferred to keep far away from court when he went on a bender, another fateful mistake) and to bury him in the countryside, covering up the remainder of the mess was far more difficult. Hefty bribes to local washer-women saw her clothes (and the hut itself) made spotless with narry a word, and equally-hefty bribes to local hunters bred the tale that Duc Lothaire had been seen wandering around a small village nearby at dawn, only to flee in the direction of the desert when his subjects approached him, never to be seen again. The story was convincing enough in some ways, but even with all the money Bourgogne had spent, she could not fully suppress the rumors that she had killed Lothaire. Although none guessed, thankfully, the manner of her killing, most at least suspected that she was behind it.

This was made all the worse by Lothaire's position. As the Duc of Diyar Mudar and the Comte of Tripoli he had been the strongest vassal in her realm. This prestigious distinction now passed to his son and heir, Louis, who was furious over the suspected death of his father. Although Bourgogne attempted to bribe him with grants of honorary titles, a man is not so easily pacified when his father goes missing, even if that father is a drunk.

The nascent rebellious forces in Jerusalem which had been agitating since the defeat in Italy in 1334 fed on Bourgogne's newfound weakness and the fury of Duc Louis. They convinced him to support their bid to force Bourgogne II to relinquish the majority of her powers, and he agreed eagerly.

Later historians, largely disregarding the "foolish" notion that Queen Bourgogne would have murdered her own friend, referred to the "farce" as the "Dinner-Table Rebellion." It was not such a laughing matter for Bourgogne, for the enemy could levy almost twice her count of men.
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Reminder that the Qing dynasty did nothing wrong. Manchus are based. Manchu > Han
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Well /gsg/?
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>>149277195
No, I'm saying I want to be able to England as the UK and continue to play as the city of London.

>>149277417
Myself, here:>>149275324
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>>149277805
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>>149277805
WE
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>>149277805
>Abrahamic = Jew

I do not accept your definition, therefore it's invalidated.
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>>149275189
>not creating le doomstack, scaring the Algerians to their own desert and keeping them there until they only have 10k men left
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>>149277837
You want a london tag?
What the fuck
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>>149278051
There's already a London tag PAK
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>>149277805
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>>149275630
>>149277265
>>149277583
Pic related wat?
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>>149277764
Messalianism has nothing to do with why she ate him, if that's what you're associating it with (it's because she's insane), but Messalianism is slightly memey, I'll give you that.

The reason was because, alongside the Cathar faith, it's the only religion in the game which espouses total equality of the sexes. Bourgogne I had incredible stats (attractive/strong/quick with great stats all-around), but her vassals hated her and she was barely elected simply because she was a woman. Being cruel, patient, and envious, she decided to break the old order of things, and spent most of her reign orchestrating a religious revelation and conversion so that she could try to enforce equality on Jerusalem, and from there got the idea to attempt to create a general religious reformation by converting the Holy Roman Empire as well.

As for why Messalianism over Catharism, mostly because Messalianism is an eastern religion and I wanted to characterize this as an eastern revival. There are also other elements, like Messalianism's loose morals being more appealing to the peasantry than Catharism's strict asceticism.
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>>149278243
>>149278243
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>>149277779
Who are you quoting?
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>>149277262
pic
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>>149278228
Nice meme
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>>149278228
Kek
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>>149277805
I cant find fedora?
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>>149279381
We are in the new thread newfag.
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>>149265915
fuck off napooleon
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How's France in HPM?
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>>149281071
just move to the new thread
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>>149281174
no
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>>149281281
ok then, have fun here dying alone, I'm sure it will be just like the rest of your life
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>>149265363

There was a rebllion in 1798 where Wolfe Tone was killed, he was the "leader" of Irish Republicanism at that time.

I imagine one of his disciples, although I wouldnt know of one off hand.
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>>149223076
It's been happening since 2012

4 years of non stop spam
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