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Best Bomber Edition

>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/ (Warning! Pure weeaboo and horsefucker autism abound)

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox.
If prompted for a password, use "memes".

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074
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>Historical encounters is considered bad matchmaking says baby war thunder community playerbase )))
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>>149130592
>I want to club P-47s in my Me 163
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Still super hyped
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>not playing germany
its like u mucks enjoy losing lol
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Just imagine a whole slew of these raiding your airfield destroying everything

How could the japanese even handle it?
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>>149130676
>anything
>clubbing P-47 unstoppable freedom machine
If one gets shot down in P-47, it is probably his fault.
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>grind out my first 6.0 tank
>T25 looks good on paper should be able to compete at that BR
>it almost exclusively faces 6.7 tanks

I put 30 matches into this tank and I think I saw 6.3 maybe 3 times? I don't think I ever saw 6.0 at all.

Which is a real shame because I saw a LOT of Tiger 1H and Tiger E tanks while playing my M18 and was hoping to get some payback.

Should I even keep going to get that M60? I heard it was pretty damn stronk.
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>>149130849
>not playing bongs
its like you want to make the game hard on purpose lol
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Please put this in the next dev blog

PLEASE!
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>>149131526
Pasta belongs in the trash.
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>mfw just spaded the D9
>mfw no unlockable skins
>mfw no reason to play her anymore because i would rather focus on spading other aircraft
I wish gaijin would patch in some more historical skins for the D9 for unlock through kills like other aircraft.
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>>149131131
Depends. If you plan to lose a lot go for it. Problem is I keep winning and I keep getting up tiered. Overall the difference between a 6.0 tank and a 7.0 tank is a lot more noticeable than lower BRs.
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When will we see the A-10? One without Air-to-air missles
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>>149132208
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>>149131526
Sorry bud, no new Spaghetti until their own tree.
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>>149132181
>sovietstronk
Is this an Americastronk or an Ivanstronk meme account?
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>>149132339
>>149132208
feels bad knowing they are basically dead now and being replaced by F-35As
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>>149132793
I'm not starting a new nation on the same account. I gotta use those good goy coins you get on crew experience.
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>>149132954
No, they'll be replaced by Broncos.
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threadly reminder that libfags killed the a-10
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Is there a variant of an in-game plane you want but isn't in?

>>149130439
A shame we won't get the earlier variants.
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>>149133425
yeah i want a land version of the me-163
like, with wheels n shit
and the wings are upside down so that it doesnt fly away so you can drive around relaly fast
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What BR will she have when she's introduced?
Im going with 5.7
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>>149133425
F9F-6
F-84F
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>>149132339
No matter how many times I see this picture I'm always impressed with how perfect it is.
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>tfw you realise you've exclusively played Bf109s for the past month
Guys pls help, I don't want to turn into a wehraboo
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>>149133585
5.3
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>>149133425
ju 390
is variant of ju 290 0)))))))
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxzi6l4TrA

RIP Yak :(
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World War mode when?
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>>149134280
But Mario, there's no Ju-290 in the game.
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>>149134925
Literally and figuratively never.
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>>149135043
b-but the dev blog
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>be teamkilled by some soviet tank for no reason
>join the next game
>see a friendly asu-57 looking at me
>shot it dead crying "die fucking slav" in the chat as a revenge for somebody that guy surely teamkilled in the past (isn't it like karma works after all, somebody will revenge for me too)
>get kicked by the system from the match
>the friend of that asu-57 player begins a chat with me
>he literally tries to explain to me that they are hungarians and hungarians are not slavs
>say "w/e you want, slav"
>he again explains to me that they are hungarians and hungarians are not slavs
>it repeats
>eventually i say "w/e you want hungarian nigger"
>he ends the chat satisfied, he explained to me that hunagrians are not slavs

hungarians
what a joke nation

yeah, i should behave sweetier, i try, but it's hard sometimes

>>149133425
xp-50 with an option to pack bombs or rockets :^)
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>>149135043
:-(

I unironically want to fly my plane from the factory in England across French farmland for an hour before landing at a tiny little dirt strip, refueling, and heading out to where I've heard there is a big tank engagement. When I'm done I'll land at the little field again and the plane will already be there when I log in the next day.
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>>149135069
>he fell for it
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>P51c and Razoback P47s vs 109 G2s and Mc 205 Veltros with B26 Marauder bombing raids over Italy map FUCKING WHEN?

Revitalize the 1943 Mediterranean air war!
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>>149133425
also kek'd at those flags hanging from the factory building's ceiling
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>merely unconscious ))
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>>149135565
You know that you're not conscious when you're dead, right?
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>>149136128
He's only knocked out.
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>>149135416
>veltro
Why are spaghetti planes so aesthetic?
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>>149136128
just asleep )))
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>>149136237
Pasta designers hoped to achieve by art the performance they were unable to achieve by engineering.
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>>149135565
one jap ace, saburo sakai (pic related), was hit by a machine-gun bullet into his head and survived it (managed to land his plane too after a several hours long flight back) but lost one eye so they made him a kamikaze pilot but he survived again

he had a few points into vitality
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>>149136457
>gooks in charge of non-retarded character designs
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>>149136457
Saburo-chan is a girl!
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Hakurei-chan's silk stockings!
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actually i see an advantage of such monstrosities as these mecha girls

it should be much harder for the enemy polits to aim at one and also they could pull some tricks like only a combination of a helicopter with a plane could so they have to be pretty good in dog fighting and hard to be boom zoomed
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>>149135081
so much cringe from reading this
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>>149136670
They also have the advantage of rabu rabu and chuu.
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ITS PREMIUM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149137162
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>149137162
>>149137227
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>>149137249
> ;)
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>>149137089
blame this game i merely behave like other players do. when i hide from my teammates when we win by capping not to be killed as a part of victory celebration team killing how should i treat them?
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>>149137162
Damn.
Might end up getting it anyway.

>>149137249
Well he's not entirely wrong.
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>>149137162
>>149137227
>>149137249
What did she mean by this?
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So is this the most powerful gun in the game based purely on HE?
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>>149137342
>produced in decent numbers
>300 tanks build
choose one
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>>149138081
>Two hundred units of the P-47N-15 were built
>not premium

So how the fuck do they decide which vehicle is premium anyway?
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>>149138379
Gaijin simply doesn't give a fuck anymore
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>>149138081
>Jagdtiger numbers: 88
>King Tiger numbers: 500
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>>149138480
>Jagdtiger numbers: 88
lol
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>>149137249
+1 GE
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I legitimately want this game to die so that Gaijin one day have to realise their mistakes and greed weren't worth it.
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>>149138379
$
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Fw 189 event when?
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>>149139994
After they add it maybe?
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>>149139994
It will be a shitty plane you'll try once and never touch again anyway. Just like the slav meme boat.
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Pilot bleeding added when?
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>infantry when
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>300 produced vehicles
>Premium

>Meanwhile Dicker Max, Sturer Emil, Tortoise and T95 are in the standard tree

JUST
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>let's see what /wtg/ is up to
>tank shit again
lol
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>>149142080

>Hating on tanks
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What's better, the P-51H or this?
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>>149144919
N
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american teams are literally the worst thing in this game

every time im trying to fly my hard to use spitfire im teamed WITH burgers

half of them are useless ground attackers or bombers

other half is fighters who dont even climb

fuck you, burger pilots
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>>149145428
I feel no sympathy for spit pilots.
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>>149139814
Imagine the magic that would happen if an entity like the graviteam or il-2 devs got ahold of all those high quality assets.

late war graviteam must happen
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>>149145519
well im not only flying spitfires, i use the following most

>yak 3p
>n1k1
>ki43 ii
>mig15bis
>hunter
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>tanks are mentioned
>thread goes to shit due to inevitable chimpout as a result of rampant shitposting
>planes are mentioned
>thread returns to normal with civilized discussion and minimal shitposting
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>>149146080
>Everything on that list is either best at its BR or completely mis-balanced
Kys
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>>149148451
>hunter
>best at its br
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>planeshitters STILL think air RB is a good game mode
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>tankshitters STILL think their point and click while sitting on a hill mode takes any skill
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Just crewed my first ever jet and played a match with it. I was first on my team. I think I like jets.

I got the B-57B.
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>>149148610
I would go as far to say that the hunter is the pinnacle of top tier jets. Its just plain fast, has great guns. It can't turn, but what jet can? Its like the F84 of 9.0
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>tfw purposefully squadding up to generate mixed battles
>tfw people notice and get salty as fuck
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How do you survive in this thing with its shitty BR?
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>>149149524

Git gud
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>>149149524
>being this bad unironically
Just kick back, angle, and snipe people at range. The 88 on that has good enough pen and has good post pen damage.

If you're on a map without long range sight lines just leave.
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You will never carpet bomb tanks with 1000lb bombs in real life.

Why even explain why children enjoy cinnamon crunch?
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>>149150480
What did she mean by this?
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>>149150480
>carpet bombing tanks
I don't think that's what carpet bombing is for.
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>>149130592
what pisses me is that you can't encounter endgame props with P-51, thanks to BR.
Partially I get it, mission design puts them at disadvantage, so they had their BR lower than they should, but would it be so hard to add extra variant with higher BR? Like these P-51Ds retrofitted with M3s.
Not even new model of FM would be needed, just swap gun data to M3s, call it P-51D-30 (M3), slap BR 5.3 on top of it and give it for us to play.
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>>149151975
premium soon ))))))))))))))))
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>>149151217
>implying USAF cared
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>>149151975
>mission design puts them at disadvantage, so they had their BR lower than they should
No, the BR is so low because people are shit at flying it. Gaijin has confirmed this again and again.
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>>149152818
>people are shit at flying it
This
>better turnifght in a P-51
>I think this lawn needs mowing
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>>149151975
If any 5.3 american p51 is added, it would probably be the H
I see the new p47 being a 5.7
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>>149152818
>climb to 5000 meters (P-51s are SOOO good climbers)
>meet red climbers
>kill red climbers
>win altitude dominance
>GER team stays on ground level and ignores us
>1. Go to ground level, killed in thick air
>2. Stay high, lose to tickets
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The Bf 109 F-4 is just as undertiered as the P-51D
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>>149152818
in SIM, P-51D is 5.3, because EC has no climbracing, and mission design isn't about 2 teams smashing into each other 5 mins into game
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>>149153818
Git gud
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>>149153857
I wonder why, since Bf 109 F-4 is easy to fly and fight in, probably best 109 variant
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>>149154203
>meme
just the answer I expected.
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>>149154204
I regularly uptier my F-4 and abuse my superior turnrate against unsuspecting griffon pilots.
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>>149130958
By executing the pilots who bailed out
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>>149135081
Hungarians are not slavs tho
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>>149154351
>I regularly uptier my F-4
How?
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>>149155158
Squad with someone wth higher BR.
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What are airbrakes for on a bomber such as the B-57B? I can't think of a use for the airbrakes since you're not dive bombing, and even if you were the plane can take tremendous amounts of stress on the wings.
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>>149155158
Arcade and EC both have respawn, so you can mix higher and lower BR planes. Though EC has also hard limits on lowest and highest allowed BR.
I guess you can do that in GF as well, but maps feel too cramped for decent A2A.
Wish there was respawn in RB, or at least permanent EC for RB.
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>>149155539
You can't land at 500 kph.
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>>149154309
"P51 is bad" is a meme
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>>149156012
I can slow down to 200 kph easily just by throttling the engines down. Not sure why I need an airbrake to land when I can just cut engine power.
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>>149156319
Go back in time to the 1950s and ask the guys who designed it why they gave it an airbrake.
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WTF? I hate Göring now
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>>149156809
Thats it, i join the #bombercommand now!
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>>149156319
when you're in 'nam you want to be going slow for as little time as possible
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>>149134994
Ju 290 when!!!!!!!!!!!! Gaijin I have been a wait forever, and I give at least $800 shekels come ON
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How did americans manage to lose the korean war?
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>>149157361
))))
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>>149157361
They werent carried like before
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>>149157110
get off my thread shlomo
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>>149148616
Air RB is why I quit planes
Tank RB is an infinitely better plane mode than air RB but you have to dick off for x minutes in a shitty tank first
There's just no winning with this shitty game
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>>149157657
>not capping with an aa truck of farming SP while being shot

LMAO
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>>149157361
"""""""""""volunteers""""""""""
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>https://twitter.com/WarThunder/status/756144689128939520/photo/1
SHIPS CONFIRMED FOR TOMORROW
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>>149157832
what part of that says ships?
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>>149157832
>n113 a7
what did they mean by this
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>>149157801
nazis don't have an aa truck ((((
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>>149158026
that's cyrillic
i113 a7
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>>149157832
>ships
>they will be mediocre at release and get worse just like tanks and planes
>people still refuse to understand this
Smdh
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>>149158026
it's not an N.
it's cyrillic
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>>149158026
I think it might be slav so in that case its p113 a7
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>>149157361
>korean war
>lose
It was a tactical victory, m8
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>>149158092
Yes they do
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How the fuck are you supposed to play the stukas once you come up a bit in the trees. Specifically the D-5. I feel like a fucking idiot when I dive and maybe hit one or two targets before getting torn to shreds
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>>149158636
the D5 has 20mms
remember that
once you get the gunpods, it become the headon god until the fw190a5u2
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>>149157832
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTV_A-7_Corsair_II
http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:Ch22_113

))
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>>149159146
A plane with wing guns can't be head-on god.

It's great as a "bait shitters into turnfights and vaporize them with dual 20s" plane though
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>>149157832
>>149158026
I digged up what I could.

I think it's the A7 corsair operated by the american VA 113 squadron. which makes sense because it was the 113 squadron that operated A7 corsairs
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>>149160091
>Burger tank
It was written in cyrillic though
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>>149160373
Fuck off slavshit
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ITALIAN TANKS AHHHHHHHHHHH
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ITALIAN TANK AHHHHHHHHHHH
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Ben, why did you die?
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>>149160526
rude(((((
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>>149159857
113 is fun though
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BRRRRRRRRRRT
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>>149159991
>wing guns cant be good in a headon
tell that to the fw190a5u2
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What color scheme should I paint my model Leopard 1?
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>>149159991
>have wing guns
>shoot at twice my convergence
>saw off both the enemy's wings
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>>149162353
norwegian
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https://www.scalemates.com/kits/162113-frog-334p-vickers-supermarine-n113-scimitar
S C I M I T A R C O N F I R M E D
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>>149163289
>1:72
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>http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/011640.htm

B O T E
O
T
E
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Navy should be a premium only game mode desu. The f2p community is terrible, p2p communities are always better.
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more high tier variants because that's where our autist whales spend all their money
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>>149165068
>another tank to shitpost about
NICE
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>>149165068
>another American medium tank

Welp thats now what, 5 T5 tanks you have to grind through to hit top tier? The sad thing is this M60A1 is barely different from the M60 we have.
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>>149165380
>The sad thing is this M60A1 is barely different from the M60 we have.

>but more armor makes it stronker against AP/APCR rounds!!!!! !)) !!!
>entire game mostly revolves around the 300-400mm pen HEAT slinging shitfest anyways at that BR anyways, invalidating it's better armor
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M60 starship when?
placed after m103 because that line is dead in the water
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>>149165626

So you want a Sheridan that's bigger, slower, and all-around worse? Doesn't it have that neat 20mm cupola gun at least?
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>>149165068
Are they adjusting or extending BR range? M60 already is 8.0 right?
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TIME TO LOSE YOUR SHIT
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Tomorrows big surprise is the T-62A and Mig-19 or a Mig-17 variant
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>>149166201
>Tomorrows big surprise is the T-62A and Mig-19 or a Mig-17 variant
no it's not. it's the TU-95
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>>149166160
TU 95 TU 95 TU 95 TU 95 TU 95 T U 9 5
TU 95 TU 95 TU 95 TU 95
TU 95 TU 95 TU 95
TU 95 TU 95
TU 95
U
9
5
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>>149165380
sweet
>infra red sights
>stabilized maingun
>better designed and thicker turret
>more 105 mm rounds
except 2 of them aren't implemented in WT, while another 2 don't matter in WT.
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>>149166160
>entire playerbase is hating on them because of the Tu-4
>Tu-95
They wouldn't.
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>>149166242
>>149166160
No, soviets already got Tu-4 last ppatch they wont get another bomber.

The tweet also included "tankers" not just pilots. Its going to be a tank and a plane.
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>>149166160
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyagilevo_Air_Base
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C U T E
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>>149165770
it would be cool, though
If I played because I want the best shit, I would probably just play m60 or another nation
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I found the photo
1/2 grind Sheridan
3/4 fuck around in Russian planes
5/6 fuck around in German planes
7/8 Fuck around in Nip nong Ching Chong planes
9/0 read
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>>149166340
What the fuck did i just watch. Did that guy just survive a direct missle hit and then climb out of the tank and die because of the heat?
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>>149157832
Pls be France
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>>149166715
Bleeding profusely/concussion/concussive blast liquifying organs
Could be anything but I doubt it was the heat.
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>>149166715
>>149166926
After that blast he was definitely deaf too and probably bleeding from his ears
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>>149166715
Of course he died of the heat, missiles aren't kinetic penetrators you goofus
>>
Why do so many planes miss loadout options?
I want to go torpedo bombing in my F-8.
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>>149166340
Pretty amazing that thing didnt cook off and flame out the hatches like a russian tank would when hit due to over pressure
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>>149165068
>that's where our autist whales spend all their money
like fuck i'm spending money on anything else in this fucking game.
t. yak, i'm finally unbanned.
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>>149167130
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>>149166340
Please give me source on this
>>
so getting to top tiers without paying or spending 8 hours a day playing is a lost hope, right?
>tfw no B-24 ever
>tfw no M60 ever
>tfw no B-29 ever
>tfw no collection of all the F-86s ever

anyway, Italian collection y/n?
>>
>>149167130
>>149166715
It wasnt a missile and the guy was shot when he pulled himself out.
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>>149168047
Getting the M60 even with premium is a bitch m8. Its 1.3m rp for T5 alone.
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>>149166458
>>No, soviets already got Tu-4 last ppatch they wont get another bomber.
>they can't add more spits because there is a spitfire in the game already
>they can't add more yaks because there is a yak already
>they can't add more BF's because there are BF's ingame
>etc.
You realise how retarded you sound

>>The tweet also included "tankers" not just pilots. Its going to be a tank and a plane.
>wow it's almost as if the game has both tanks and planes
Again, you realise how retarded you are, right?
>>
>>149168364
they need to make war thunder: cold war or something. I want my cold war tankfus
No, I don't like armored warfare
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>>149168448
Reading is hard for you isnt it?

I said they wont get the Tu-95 because they just got the Tu-4 last patch which was a shitstorm to begin with. You're not getting another shitstorm bomber for awhile and i will be on here tomorrow to make fun of you. Cant wait to call you the fucking retarded illerate you are.
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>>149166715
survived, crawled out, fell off tank.
It's pretty hard to say how badly he was injured. Could've just lose consciousness due to pain or concussion, people who suffer latter often act as if they don't care what's around them.
Or he could recieve lethal injury, but adrenaline kept him concious long enough to crawl out.
you can see it in this webm. Guy is so fucked up he doesn't seem to react when falling into burning fuel, and after he notices, he rolls to put flames out because he can't tell if he's on fire or not.
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Oh joy.
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>>149168796
Nearly every patch for the last 2 years has contained a yak. Last patch had a sea venom, 2 patches ago we had the hunter.You literal ape
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>>149168898
>guys leg is blown off
>people shooting at him and missing
>finally shot in the back a few times at the end
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>>149169050
Just be on tomorrow, im already readying the screencap with grats you're a fucking retard on it.
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>>149168796
>they can't add a certain plane because I said they can't
you're retarded
>>
>>149169315
More retards to add to the screencap, amazing how slavshits think they are going to get another nuke bomber after the Tu-4 shitstorm
>>
>soviets get the bear
>americans get the stratofortress

opinions?
>>
Tomorrow we get the Leopard 2A4 and Me 262 or w/e strategic bomber :3
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>>149169716
dont care. im only here to shitpost
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>>149168796
>posted from my hunter->sea venom
>posted from my MiG-17->Yak-30
I personally have my fingers crossed for the Yak-3T-57.
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>>149169716
I'm happy I'm 9.0 in all nations but the nazis, but who cares about the nazis, they're either just going to be worse or have copypasta planes
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>>149169885
>not wanting flying wings
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>>149169921
>the Ho 229 is BR 9.0
is this a meme or are they adding some napkinwaffe flying wing bullshit
>>
>>149169921
7,0 - 8.0 would be literally unplayable with the bear and stratofortress in the game, abandon that shit
america has potential for dank as fuck flying wings, though.
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>>149170120
Theyll never be added tho because the designs are not public
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>>149170431
what a shame
gaijin have experience in fabrication
>>
>>149170431
>implying designs matter when we have literal fantasy planes and engines currently modelled in-game
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>>149137654
Somebody once mentioned it's HE shell already pens 75 mm of steel
>>
If it's ships then I'm going to legit quit

because fuck ship and fuck navies
>>
>>149171558
Don't play them?
>>
>>149171397
Whew a whole 75mm, useless
>>
>>149171558
Sure thing, mister contrarian man!
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>>149171558
Im happy for ts aspies to be quitting finally
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>>149171558
>he thinks they'd release ships with a shitty teaser the day before

Senpai they're going to start mentioning it in dev blogs, bring up an estimate for CBT and then bring out things to buy to get access to the CBT.

Then have a huge long development time with more paid access stuff and preorder content. Then have a slow release of trees and content.

They're going to fucking milk ships for as much shekels as they can, they wouldn't announce them like this.
>>
Aimming with ships will be a shitstorm for not Arcade players.
>>
>>149172007
>what are fire control systems
>>
>>149157832
Hungarian tanks?
>>
>>149170431
Ever wonder how Armored Warfare got their plans?
Major spoiler: they didn't
>>
>>149169885
Reminder that nazi and burger planes are the only nations not handheld to every win.
>>
Should I start playing japanese planes? Are they good? Are they too good?
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>>149172806
Turn
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objective PoS, and I like the aestetics
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that is a big ass jet
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>>149173161
sr-71)))
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>>149173315
or a YB49
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>>149173161
Whatever its it is german.
>>
Flying Dorito

Illuminati CONFIRMED
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>>149173773
in a soviet hangar?
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>>149173987
Yes it was captured. Its goijg to be German. They reveal in order of nations in game: clap, german, slav, teeb, nip
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It's a stratojet

Calling it
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You guys arw retarded, it even says N113 A7 at the top of the hanger
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>>149174648
>>149174387
>>149173773
>>149173448
>>149173315
>still not realizing it's the TU-95
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>>149174786
no it doesn't
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>>149174824
Its not
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>>149172806
The retarded allied teams you face make jap planes good. Almost every spit, yak and P-51 will try to turn with you and die.
When you actually face competent players you come to realize how weak the planes are in actuality against players able to hold their energy.
>>
https://twitter.com/WarThunderRU
get fucking hype, time to shit on everything
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>>149174902
Are you blind?
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>>149173773
HE111Z confirmed!
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>>149175134
nah just more educated than you
>>
>>149175084
>open
>see T-90
>close
>uninstall game
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>>149175247
So you're and a dumb liberal
>>
>>149175084

>t-90 and M-1

w-what?
>>
>>149175670
what
take a second look at the letter you call an N
>>
>>149175247
You are out of the game, that's what you wanted.
I'll spend some of my energy to tell you a few things.
First, you are one adorable monkey to my eyes, a really stupid one, since what you just said is wrong, since you can talk about math using words, one plus one is two, and you can understand nature without understanding math, you drop an apple, it falls and so on :)
a small tiny lecture to you, understand it.

And since you are not in, you don't want to know how to.. for example know how to calculate how to get your dream job? Like I have.. or.. How to be the perfect father?
Those are all states of everything in existence, plausible ones.


And yes, I am aware this is waste of time, like trying to teach algebra to a dog, but to others here who don't get this, be humble, don't attack me, but the theories, we will never be finished, but we can use these for literally anything..

be smart, for once in your life at least.
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>>149175792
I know its a russian n but you think my american phone lets me type it?
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>>149171882
What happened?
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>>149175953

It's an L you dip
>>
Its clearly M13 A2
>>
>>149175953
in that case I feel a lower case N would be more fitting
just admit you're dumb
>>
>>149176173
Youre dumb
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>>149176315
or the actual cyrillic - roman translation
dummy
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The French are coming.
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>>149175084
>We are getting closer and closer to the T-90 and M1

Is this a troll twitter
>>
Russian WT twitter pretty much confirmed its a american strategic jet
>>
Most likely summer event for free vehicles.
You know the thing we had every summer except this one and Gaijin was always extra cryptic about it, but lucky us because this summer is still in the first half and seems like Gaijin is being extra cryptic about something....
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>>149176658
this

four-engined jet bomber, calling it now. Whip out those aircraft recognition guides
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>>149176989
Summer event isnt until August, maybe its an announcement for it in preparation. I doubt itll start till early August tho.
>>
>>149177170
Senpai, we already know the answer. >>149166160
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>>149177170
I want to say B-47 but nose looks small unless Boeing bombers
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>>149177440
but anon, the bear is a turboprop airplane, not a jet airplane
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>>149177580
>a turboprop isn't a type of jet
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>149177440
Its not, outline doesnt even match at all
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>>149177667
yes they are, but if you look at the picture you can clearly see the left engines grouped together without any propeller
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>>149177751
>>149177860
The outline is deliberately ambiguous. That looks like a twin nacelle on the left, but it's actually something else.
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senpai
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>>149177938
I'm not buying it, I wouldn't mind the TU-95 but my money is on an american jet bomber
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>>149178142
Why the fuck would an american bomber be in the soviet hangar the first Tu-95 was built in, you enormous fucking monkey?
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>>149178272
to sell tickets to the ruse cruise
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>>149178142
>Tu-95 introduced
>8.0 or 9.0
>literally unkillable
>outer space
>ends Jet RB games in 5 minutes flat with runway bombing


Its like Gaijin wants to kill this game
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>>149177667
It uses a turbine, but there is no jet exhaust that's used for propelling the plane forward.
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>>149178515
to introduce the penultimate meme weapon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIR-2_Genie
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>>149178515
>tfw skyknight never
>tfw I'll be completely reliant on retard Hunters to do something about them
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>>149178515
TU-95 used missiles and an auto cannon. This thing is useless in this game. Also it has no gunners except the tail.
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>>149178028
I enjoyed my way better.
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>>149179171

Yea, I crippled his wing so he couldn't turn and he was limping back to base when you rammed him which meant I didn't even get an assist you idiot. Don't do that again!
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>>149178916
>straight wing with less max speed than the Tu-95
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>>149179373
>[SG508] Junko_Enoshima bullying fellow SG508 members
how the mighty have fallen
>>
>>149179441
>every variant is the variant in the wikipedia specifications chapter
Don't tell me you actually think this.
>>
>>149179573
Show me your meme design speecs then
>>
I guess the OrangeDoom hasn't been talking much shit about WT as of late

Whip him more Gaijin
>>
>>149179695
I don't have to show you anything, you've already proven you're a retard for acting like we'd get the Tu-95MS which wasn't put into production until the 80s.
>>
>>149179850
I don't know if you visited wtg while you were "gone", if you did, you'd know you're literally the only person posting about him ever
can you stop
>>
>>149178028
DZSUNKÓ
Z
S
U
N
K
Ó
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>>149179510
It's well worth a little backlash to honorably ram Orange, senpai.
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>>149180051
Aka you have no specs and want a fantasyjet again

http://fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-95.htm


Kill yourself
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>>149144919
what is better the tube launched rockets or the normal rockets?
>>
>come to thread
>lawn mowing and tankers
>remember buying german p47 to destroy lawn mowers and lawn mow from time to time
>eventually buy russian p47 when it was new
>could lawn mow and catch lawn mowers that didn't climb
>wonder why nobody else does this
>>
>>149180515
Bazookas are more accurate but HVARs do more damage. Bazookas do create drag though even after they fire since it has a launch tube still present.
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>>149180512
Why should I kill myself after you've provided a source proving I was right?
>it reached a maximum speed of 850 km/h

>fantasyjet
Huh?
>>
>>149180916
Are you retarded? You just said we would get the Tu-95MS then you go use its max speed for your argument? Top kek.

Were getting the Tu-95M at best which is 925.
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>>149181370
>You just said we would get the Tu-95MS
>you're a retard for acting like we'd get the Tu-95MS
Yep, you're a retard.
>>
>>149181575
Whew, now your resorting to obvious typos when you said in >>149180051
That it woulf be retarded to get

Good to see your admit you lost and nkw your just pulling an aslie
>>
>>149182197
>saying we won't get something is evidently the same thing as saying we will
>Huh?
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>>149157832
>>149160091
>>149159857
>A-7 Corsair

I bet HAF is partying right now desu
>>
>>149182374
Do you have reading skill problems? You said it would be retarded to get the Tu-95MS and then use stats from the Tu-95MS instead of the Tu-95M which is what we will likely get, but it goes against your agenda because youre a retard
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>in P51D30
>Running away from a La5fn that's chasing me
>manage to run him into a friendly spit
>retard spit goes head on with him
>gets obliterated
>la5 goes verticle
>decide this is my chance and turn around follow him because i had quite a bit of energy and was above him alt wise
>get within .4km before my nose decides to get on target
>just then la5 flips his wings over
>start fire on him
>in his flip, he manages to put a ShVAK round in my engine
>he explodes, giving me the kill
>with engine dead, i try to make it to my AF
>not happening and decide to put it in the drink
>crash land in black sea
>he gets no credit for the kill
>mfw
>>
>plane shitters in full chimpout
>>
>>149182539
Which map has the Black Sea in it?
>>
>>149182532
>and then use stats from the Tu-95MS
No, pasted directly from the Bear A paragraph in your own source, you absolute ape.
>>
>>149182787
Krymsk
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>>149182795
You're braindead
>>
>>149182982
Oh yeah. Haven't seen anything but alt hist berlin in so long I forgot we had it.
>>
>>149182795
> The subsequent aircraft, designated as TU-95M, had more powerful and more fuel-efficient NK-12M engines that allowed increased take-off weight. During tests in September and October 1957, it reached a maximum speed of 905 km/h, a ceiling of 12,150 m and a range of 13,200 km.

Same paragraph
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>>149183075
>http://fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-95.htm
>The first two fully equipped Tu-95 aircraft... reached a maximum speed of 850 km/h
>>
Guys what model tank should I buy? I already got chieftain and Leopard.
>>
>>149183327
See >>149183234
Literally setences below yours
>>
>>149183378
Panzerkampfwagen 38 (t)
>>
>>149183532
You never claimed we would get the M until after I initially pasted the Tu-95's 850 km/h, not to mention that's still not faster than the Skyknight.
>>
>>149183920
Youre dumb and yes its faster than the skyknight.
>>
>>149183920
Why are you comparing the speed of a plane that's not in-game and probably never will be to another plane that's not in-game and probably never will be?
>>
Jet bombers in WT was a mistake.
>>
>>149184247
>905 km/h is faster than 909 km/h
You are truly a mathematical genius.
>>
>>149184438
I'm not, I'm comparing a plane that's currently being teased by Gaijin to a plane that fits the timeline and would be able to counter it.
>>
>stat card pilots

people are literally dumb in this thread.
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Man this plane is great for grinding.
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>>149184467
My B-57 disagrees. I love that thing so much I got a talisman for it.
>>
>>149186065
>FM improperly modeled
>drops internals before externals
>bomb delay
>wing fiddies
You love a sack of shit.

>inb4 RB-57A
>>
>>149185381
>ground attacking is the most reliable way to grind
>unfortunately it is boring to me
>>
>>149184467
all bombers in WT were a mistake
>>
>>149187345
this desu sempai
>>
>>149186697
>four M3 .50 cals
>tons of bombs
>tons of rockets
>faster than any early jets
>handles very well for a bomber
B-57 is good.
>>
>>149187345
Aircraft lacking fixed forward armament should never have been considered for this game. They could have put events in where one team controls the gunners on a flight of automated B-17s while the other team tries to knock them down with 262s and such to satisfy all the bomber autists.
>>
>>149169012
At least the Ar-2 is one of the most fun bombers no one knows about.
>>
Jets were a mistake
>>
WT was a mistake
>>
im not gonna lie, i play wowp from time to time for arcade planes. WG has added some really cool jets that we'll likely never see in WT
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>>149187208
Eh, I quite like it. Also, this plane has finally made Krymsk fun for me on the Allied side.

>captcha: 1337
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>>149188525
Such as?
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GOD DAMN I LOVE THIS PLANE
Also, what's with these "new targets for elimination"? When did they get added? Did Gaijin actually have a good idea for once?
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>>149189173
>>
>>149189285
>"new targets for elimination"
I've seen this before but never investigated. What is it? Tanks rolling in from off map or what?
>>
>>149189173
Panzer 2 is cute.
CUTE!
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>>149186697
I can't deny the attraction.
>>
>>149189227
Me P.1101
Fw 252
Ta 183
Me 262 HG III
XF-90
F7U Cutlass
Gloster Javalin
IL-40

to name a few
>>
>>149189697
How is WoWP? I've never tried it.

Does it have any ground attack aspect or is it strictly air to air fighting?
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>>149189503
In the match I was just in, it was just a column of soft vehicles, conveniently placed on our side of the map. The enemy team was down to one plane, and he was just circling the airfield, so it was a welcome relief. We had bombers that probably could have taken out their base, but this would be extremely useful if the team only had fighters left. I guess Gaijin doesn't fuck up every time, just most of the time.
>>
>>149189503
it is a whole bunch of unarmored vehicles appearing out of nothing in a very small space. Makes winning by tickets very easy
>>
>>149189851
>>149189851
Think WT arcade, but even more arcade. There are some ground units and ships.
>>
>>149190206

It is arcade, but the lack of respawns make their gamemode more like RB, combined with the fact that plane performance actually matters and the maps don't allow for furballing.

I really liked it until I discovered WT, the Ilyushin and Stuka line was so much fun
>>
>>149190206
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I21mBUQw6K4

holy shit this game looks like a fuckign joke my sides

>health bars
>pew pew
>markers
>retarded FM
>>
>>149187450
>>149186065
+1 GE
>>
>>149187450
>four M3 .50 cals
>mounted further from the fuselage than the Me-163's wingspan

>tons of bombs
>drops internals before externals
>bomb delay

>faster than any early jets
>it's 8.0 and mostly gets uptiered
>fully loaded it sees a -179 km/h penalty aka top speed of 784

>handles very well for a bomber
Are you fucking kidding me? It was a dive bomber/strafer, it behaves nothing like what it should.

Also I forgot
>overheats at 95%

>>149189684
It should be the best attacker in the game. It's not.
>>
YOU STALLED RECOVER
>>
>>149190024
Do you find it best to target ground units or bomber targets for getting the most reward and leading your team to victory?
>>
>>149190748
>there are people who claim this is an alternative to war thunder
don't get me wrong, I really fucking wish there was an alternative to this game
>inb4 il2
>>
Why is Magz so wrong every time he starts talking about a plane?
>>
>>149185381
so is your mom
>>
>>149193393
What is it this time?
>>
>>149190941
>mounted further from the fuselage than the Me-163's wingspan
This is true, but the .50s are more for taking out targets of opportunity or soft ground targets, not air to air fighting.

>drops internals before externals
>bomb delay
There's a delay, but the bomb sight adjusts so you do not need to lead your target excessively. Simply release bomb when crosshair are on target, and the sight stays there until the bomb bay opens and releases.
The order it drops bombs from internal or external does not matter at all. Same bombs being dropped either way.

>it's 8.0 and mostly gets uptiered
No, it's 8.0 and gets uptiered and downtiered equally. Just finished a match fighting 7.0 jets and 8.0 Tu4s.

>fully loaded it sees a -179 km/h penalty aka top speed of 784
Except you forgot to account for all the performance mods you can upgrade to, making it go faster than 800 kph even with 8 1K lb bombs and 8 rockets.

>It was a dive bomber/strafer, it behaves nothing like what it should.
Fair enough, but it's not a dive bomber in the game. It's presented as a level bomber and handles very well compared to other level bombers.

>overheats at 95%
Not unless your cooler is damaged. Even at 100% throttle it takes about five minutes to cause any harm to your engines from excessive heat.


The B-57B is not great at any one thing. Instead it serves as a very fast and fairly maneuverable ground attack/bomber hybrid that *can* target less maneuverable bogeys if needed.

It's like the F-35. It's versatile but not great at anything.
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>>149193393
>oh cunt, I marketed myself to know more about planes than the average youtuber when I actually don't know much more than the basics
>better use difficult words incorrectly and shit, if nobody understands what I'm talking about I'll sound clever
>btw fuck learning anything that's not on the wikipedia page
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>>149192448
The best for leading your team to victory is killing other players. Ground attacking is always selfish, but blame Gaijin for making the grind so ridiculous, and blame 80% of your team for being total shitheads unworthy of respect.
As for reward, I don't actually know. In this plane I tend to take bombs and hit the first base I can, then attack soft targets unless an enemy player presents a target of opportunity. If there are no soft targets, bug out, climb, and engage targets of opportunity. I think soft targets pay out a lot less than tanks, unless they reduced the payout for tanks. I used to get 100k+ shekels (but about the same RP) per match back when I hit tanks with the B-6, but now I'm only getting 50k in a premium plane for a great match.
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>>149193846
>The order it drops bombs from internal or external does not matter at all
External bombs provide bigger performance penalties than internally mounted bombs, so it does matter.

>There's a delay, but the bomb sight adjusts so you do not need to lead your target excessively.
You do when they're a moving target.

>you forgot to account for all the performance mods
No I didn't, I have both B-57s spaded.

>Not unless your cooler is damaged.
Yes it does.
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>>149193846
You're still in the mindset of yellow temperatures not being harmful, that's wrong now
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>>149193854
any specific examples?
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>>149194575
diving back into the cesspit to find examples would help him, I ain't about that
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>>149194525
>yellow temperatures are harmful now

?
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>>149195273
Read up on how the "new"(hardly new at this point) thermodynamics work, shortly explained yellow means you're making the red limit creep lower and lower.
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>>149194327
Why does the sun have a hole in it?
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>>149195432
A side effect of fiddling with my post-FX.
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>>149194742
what? You just made that post. I'm pretty sure you know what you are talking about
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Why is the Tu-95 going to be more of a problem than the Tu-4 again?

>worse defensive armament than the Tu-4
>more deadzones than the Tu-4
>still significantly slower than most jet fighters if not all since it will probably be introduced at 9.0
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>tfw bad at planes
>tfw hate how RB is just climb afk for 5-10min then get a kill or two and repeat
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>>149195720
I've watched him in the past, I have no good examples to give because I haven't watched anything from him in ages.
people say "don't watch it if you don't like it" a lot, I don't know why people don't just follow that advice more. Shitting on him is obviously still ok, though.
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>>149196014
It's not, it's a sitting duck especially since it won't get missiles.
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>>149196064
Just play the He-112 A-0 with me and rack up kills on low tier planes :3
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>>149196064
Get a P-47 or similar and attack ground targets while keeping your eyes open for targets of opportunity. Good way to grind, help the team win by tickets, and it's pretty fun actually.
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>>149196014
It's not getting added, but if it were it wouldn't be that big of a problem for exactly the reasons you mentioned.
The only thing wrong with bombers, other than the people that play them, is the absurd defensive armament.
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>>149151975
>>149195416
That would explain why my 262,after about 10 min, just starts flashing red when I go to 100%
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Has anybody gotten anything good from the warbonds store? Considering that the prem vehicles are all >3000 warbonds you'd have to do at least 5 tasks a day (at 20 points each) and while some of them are really simple others could literally takes hours of waiting to get lucky.
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>>149196937
>at least 5 tasks a day (at 20 points each)
That's not how that works.
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>>149196193
I know how that goes. I sometimes watch shitty yt channels too.

Can somebody recommend, any decent wt channels?
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>>149196937
>Has anybody gotten anything good from the warbonds store?
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>>149197090
How does it work?
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>>149196937
I try to get the decal every month. Warbonds are easy to grind if you ditch the bad ones- only do challenges like taking X place on your team, destroy bombers, get ground kills as a bomber, or get antimech/thunderer.
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>>149197309
You can do three a day. The later ones are more difficult and provide a larger reward.
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>>149193639
He's talking about how the A7M1 is faster than all the Allied fighters of its BR (4.0) when in reality everything except the Spitfire IX will outrun it and he's saying its twin cannons and 13.2 HMGs are a great armament.
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>>149197425
Wait you can only do 3 total of all the arcade/RB/tank/plane combinations?

Fuck that.
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>>149197176
I like CornyBros for tank reviews, but they seem to have died now. There was an occasional arcade match posted, but it was kida just rambling
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>>149197595
Why are you upset that you only have to do three rather than five to maximize your gains?
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So this patch is adding the "Chieftain counters" like BVV confirmed a while ago , which means two of the next devblogs will be the T-62 and Leo 1A1. We're also getting all the cold war SPAA, so the Shilka, Gepard, M163 VADS and possibly the ZSU-37-2 (I remember BVV mentioning it, not sure if it's confirmed though). And, just dreaming here, hopefully an American superprop package judging by the P-47N. F8F-2, P-51H, F4U-4?

So my guess is that Gaijin have had most of the 1.61 stuff ready the same time as 1.59, and they're going to release this patch in quick succession in preparation of releasing ships as 1.63 just before Christmas.
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>>149199459
>US superprop package
When is 1.61 suppose to hit?
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>>149149524
I got way past the Tiger H1 when it was added and didn't touch it at all until a few weeks ago. Was gonna spade it, but tanks rewards piss me off too much so quit the game again. If you're barely learning how to play, just skip it, not much reason to use it over the H1. I loved the E, though, even if 90% of the few dozen matches I had in the thing were 6.7/7.0BR. Had a ton of fun, but shit tank rewards killed my fun. Never used the APCR as I didn't need it, if you can pen the enemy you can do it with APHE. If you can't, even APCR won't help you really. I usually push forward a bit aggressively (helps if you have people helping you push), but staying back and sniping works too. Stick to H1 if you want a slightly better matchmaking, but honestly I preferred the 6.3/6.7 matches.

And pay a lot of attention to your flanks, your armour is ok when angled but from side you'll get fucked. Helps if you're paranoid and use your binoculars all the time https://aww.moe/iw4bl9.mp4
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>>149199892
I meant three days ago I would've said 1.61 is two months away minimum, but considering we've gotten three devblogs in a row I think it's coming much sooner than expected, thus my reasoning that Gaijin already had most of it ready.

American superprops would be nice, but Gaijin could just as well only add the P-47N. I'm going to have to do a lot of grinding to recomplete my American tree if they do add the superprops ;_;
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>>149189851
it's so bad that they have to use bots to fill the dead queue

and they have the most moderated forum, you can freely criticize ships or tanks but if you touch planes...
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>>149200125
I still want to know if all the hoopla will be worth it for that twitter post
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>>149189851
it is pretty much arcade-
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>>149200685
The A7 makes the most sense, which is cool except that it's going to get shit on in our tiny deathmatch maps and it will yet again be another non-fighter Americans can fly to wreck their team's chance of winning.
I'm still going to grind it out though.
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>>149200838
>The A7 makes the most sense
>It makes sense for an american plane to be the the first Tu-95's hangar
You're an ape.
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>>149201868
>Dyagilevo (also given as Dyagilevo, Ryazan Dyagilevo) is an air base in Ryazan Oblast, Russia located 3 km west of Ryazan. It has served as a training center for Russia's strategic bomber force.

In 1955 it was only one of 6 Soviet bases capable of handling the Myasishchev M-4 bomber.

The M-4 is a much better choice than the Tu-95
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>>149200838
>introduced 1967
>Most sense
Yes, I like to make sense to. Sometime at night, just before I go to sleep I put a teabag in my anus and leave it in there all night. Then in the morning when I wake up, I sit on my toilet upside down and pour boiling water in my ass. I sure love drinking tea the most sensical way
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>>149133425

>Is there a variant of an in-game plane you want but isn't in?

F4U-4C Corsair and the NF Mk 30 Mossie.
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>no A-4 Skyhawk
>no F9F6

shit
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How the fuck did the soviets not make one decent tank with good depression during its history, like fucks sake
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>>149204895
Because real life isn't like war thunder maps.
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>>149204895
Soviets wanted thick armor and low profile tanks. You can't get that AND gun depression.

>>149204974
No, real life favors gun depression even more than games do.
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>>149204974
>most players think the maps are tailored for russian bias
>they have no fucking idea how bad the constant inclines are
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>>149204974
are there no fucking hills in russian or did they just never attack from ontop of a hill down?
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>>149205113
what if you make a narrow niche in the headmost part of the hull...
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>>149204895

because they're designed around offense and exploiting weaknesses in lines, and need a low profile and thick af armor
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>>149205202
Look at some images from the battle of Kursk, it will answer your question.
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>>149205268
The issue is that the turrets don't have enough headroom to depress the gun.

>>149205202
Russia designed tanks for use between in the land between the Alps and the Urals, which is mostly flat.
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When will the Griffin arrive and take its rightful place?
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>>149205268
Breeches aren't very thin and need a long distance to recoil, that 'niche' would end up pretty large. Plus it'd slow down reload rate, as you'd have to depress it to a point where the shell can be expended and reloaded. PLUS it'd increase manufacturing complexity of the turret.
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>>149205607

>engine fires 24/7
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when are the lategame research costs getting raised back up again?
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>>149205607
Four engine planes have no place in this game.
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>>149206021
Few weeks time.

Never know, maybe their statistics will show an increase in players and decide to reduce tank and plane RP permanently.
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>>149206114
Sweet, then I'm not in a hurry.
Felt the need to research the Tu-4 when Tu-95 or some other dank slavbomber might be placed behind it.
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>hit a B-17 while it's on landing approach
>crit him, peel away and narrowly avoid RNG death
>he crashes on the runway
>no credit
Fuck you gaijin fuck you fuck you fuck you
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>>149206514
that's what you deserve for trying to kill people landing and taking off.
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>>149206815
>salty bomber babby mad that people ever dare touch his precious flying fuckoff
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>>149206815
wait, what? is that not fair?
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>>149206514
>posted from my 500 m dirt runway
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>>149206514
>crit some fool who cirlcled over our airfield
>aa gets a hit on him
>no credit at all
>getting ks by ai flak

t-thank you
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what if you fly black widow, go below a bomber, turn your belly up and make your defence turret to kill the bomber as a reverse case of shrage musik...

damn, i think i know what plane i want to get
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>>149207191
sometimes i wish there was a bonus for "trickshots" like that
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>>149194575
I'll give you two I remember
>since the engines of the Me-262 are located on the wings, that means the rudder has to counter one of the engines
>the til configuration of the Vampire was an unintentional early form of vectored thrust
No really he did say that. First example is from his subscriber choice 262 video, the second one is obviously from a video he made about the Vampire, and I think he's only made one
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>>149207191
I've taken out some bombers like that, ye. It's definitely better at doing that than defending the goddamn plane.
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the M60A1 is AESTHETIC
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>>149207406
>since the engines of the Me-262 are located on the wings, that means the rudder has to counter one of the engines
oh boy. I can only imagine how many misconceptions are involved in that one
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>>149207406
>>since the engines of the Me-262 are located on the wings, that means the rudder has to counter one of the engines
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>>149197589
Type 99 mk2 is literally the best 20mm in the game
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>>149194575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilgxa1t7WKE
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>>149208096
???
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>>149208095
M39
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>>149207406
Was he talking about single-engine performance on the 262?
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>>149208387
ww2 20mm cannon*
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>>149208508
If that had been the case I wouldn't remember it as a "what the fuck are you saying" statement
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>>149208095
>implying it's better than AN/M3s
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>>149208095
I would prefer MG 151s, AN/M2s, Hispanos, ShVAKs, maybe even MG FF/Ms to them.

Also why are allied sim teams the exact opposite of allied realistic?
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>>149208508
That's not even to do with the rudder, though, that's just asymmetrical thrust.

Besides, how is having the engine on the WINGS going to affect the RUDDER? I don't exactly have a airflow analysis of the 262 handy, but I'm pretty damn sure the thrust from the engines is going no where near the rudder. I know the 262 had takeoff problems due to thrust reflecting off the runway into the elevators, but nothing about the rudder.

Shit, a centerline propellor engine probably creates more interference with the rudder than wing engines would.
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What did this slav say to me?
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>>149209104
Asymmetric thrust has everything to do with the rudder.
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>>149209332
no no no no no no no
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>>149209104
>>149208508
you do have to counter asymmetric thrust with the rudder, but calling it to "counter one of the engines" is odd
can't really judge how stupid he was without hearing what he actually said, and I'm not going to find out what he actually said unless someone types it out
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>>149209104
I think his idea is that since the engines aren't centerline, neither is the thrust so the rudder has to fight one engine.

Of course I don't know how you'd get to that conclusion without naturally going one step further and concluding that by that logic the other engine would "help" the rudder
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>>149209332
****** you got lucky
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>>149209520
>The reddit'r in the wyvern talking about anime
no not him
>>149209691
yeah I did get lucky, because I didn't get shot down by his airfield AA
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>>149209556
>you do have to counter asymmetric thrust with the rudder
but that's only if one of the engines is turned off or outputting less thrust than the other

if both engines are running fine then the thrust is essentially centerline and the rudder doesn't have to counter anything
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>go on subreddit
>see "unofficial vehicle list for 1.61"
>list is 30 vehicles long
>sourced from the forums
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>>149210051
ye, I just went by that dude's assumption that he was talking about single-engine performance. Obviously it should be more or less balanced if everything's running as intended.
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>War Thunder @WarThunderRU 8h8 hours ago

>Mы вce ближe и ближe к T-90 и M1
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>>149210153
link
>>
1-3 read
4-6 warthunder
7-9 pokemon
0 look into signing up for classes


>>149210153
>30 vehicles
That fucking bullshit
The only times we get that are major tree additions.
Hell Brit tanks wasn't even that much if I'm not retarded.
Got a link?
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>>149210272
>B-47
For the love of christ enough with cancerous jet bombers
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>>149210363
>>149210441
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/4tyqj3/since_a_lot_of_you_requested_it_here_is_a/
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>>149210521
B-47 is an actual bomber rather than these strafing britshit planes. It will be unmaneuverable, no forward firing guns, and T H I C C
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>>149210556
that's a wishlist and the "source" is just some guy
literally what
>La-11
that's been "in" the game since 2015
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>>149210704
Also terrible as fuck acceleration so MiGs and Hunters will have no trouble catching it
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>>149210850
Migs and hunters catch anything that isn't migs and hunters anyway.
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>>149210756
La-11 is a long range escort fighter development of the La-9. Literally nothing different apart from more fuel, worse combat performance and one less gun I'm pretty sure.

Also not ingame yet.
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>>149210704
>literally a better il-28 in almost every way
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>>149210556
E7, P-51 A already in game?
>No Jap shit
Yaaaaaaay another patch in which I dont get to have more heavy fighters to grind.

/sarcasm
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Are you ready to liberate commies out of their lives?
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>>149210962
I thought it was added to the files, they may have kept it out. It was scheduled for 1.53 iirc.
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>>149211106
I believe they're ingame, yes. However I think the only P-51As are the Mustang Mk 1 in the British tree and the Thunder League reward Mustang. America doesn't have a main tree unlockable P-51A AFAIK.

I'm pretty sure the E-7 is ingame and unlockable, yeah.
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>>149209104
>the airflow from the engine isnt going anywhere close to the rudder
but anon, the engines arnt what creates the life on aircraft, its the airflow over the wings and empennage. with thrust coming from only one side of the aircraft, the pilot must compensate with the rudder

Source: Licensed Pilot
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>>149211427
stop posting, you're clueless and the list is completely baseless
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>>149211454
life? i meant lift
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>>149211158
No, but I'm ready to use my eyes and read.
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>>149211454
At this point we know that assymetric thrust is countered with the rudder, but we're assuming that it wasn't what magz was talking about and is just retarded
source: i read the fucking thread
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>>149211454
Wow good job I was assuming both engines were running Mr. Licensed Fuckstick.

And are you trying to imply the engines aren't creating any airflow?

>>149211537
Literally my first post is saying the list is bullshit you potato, anons requested I post the link so I did.
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>>149211106
Looks like 70 letteres.
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>>149211659
>your image said "naw"
oh. That message was hidden pretty well.
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Before adding so many new vehicles that are poorly balanced, I think they should add more maps.
I always get the same handful of maps. It really gets annoying
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>>149212238
They don't even need more maps, they just need to remove the shitty rotation bias.
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>>149212238
If you're talking about GF then Gaijin usually adds at least two maps

If you're talking about AF, well I'm pretty sure the last AF map added was Norway in 2014, if you don't count the size increase of Britain.
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GAIJIN YOU SCURRILOUS DOGFUCKERS WHEN ARE WE GETTING THE F4U-4!?!?! Why is the plane the Corsair is SUPPOSED to be NOT in a game RIFE with Napkinwaffe and Tojo pipedreams?!
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>>149211427
The Mustang Mk 1 is a P-51, not a P-51A, you absolute monkey.
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>>149212383
>size increase of Britain
Which doesn't even really count because what's the point of changing the map if it literally never comes up in the rotation?
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>>149212626
The difference being...?
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>>149212756
One has Hispanos, one has fiddies.
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>>149210556
>tfw B-47 soon but don't have the American cancerberras researched
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>>149212748
Ships!
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What about the P51c? Is that going to be added in?
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>>149212383
Well, lately I only get Korea or Kyrmsk(?). Literally nothing else
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rocket-assisted p51 when??
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>>149212748
The map is absolutely disgustingly big, you can try it by doing test flight with british planes. They did not create the map for plane games, that's for sure.
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>>149213229
You mean like Spain?
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>>149211659
the only airflow they're creating is drag and thrust
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>>149213309
it dwarfs spain
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How many commies will you liberate the fuck out of?
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>>149213229
Every plane map needs to be as big as that one
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>>149213535
0 because the M60A1 grind is now likely around 1.5m rp of T5 alone
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>>149213552
not with current game mechanics and win conditions tbqfh
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>>149212748
Yeah, if you don't count Britain then the last air map was Norway, added in 1.43, October 2014.

>>149213028
Ehhhh. Maybe, but probably not. More likely it's just for EC. The channel in that bit of the map is roughly 30km~ across. Depending on how "realistic" Gaijin makes ships, it'd be pretty close range for most ships.

Plus, gaijin aren't likely to add the RN till after USN and IJN.
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>>149213591
You'll get there, I have faith.

Maybe next year. As long as you kill commies, eventually.
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>>149213591
>only difference is a non-shit turret
>1.5m Rp
I see
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>>149213456
When?
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>>149213730
>implying we won't see a Soviet vs Germany naval battle taking place in the channel while Japan+UK wage an air battle against US+Soviet.
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>>149213796
In DCS by 2020
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>>149213795
>implying no stabilizer
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>>149213976
>Japan+UK ships
man, that'd be a shitstom. they would club like german+Russian tier 5 tank teams
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>>149213229
Nah, the maps only 128km x 128km. I THINK there are some maps that are 200km x 200km. Stalingrad and Ruhr only get to use their full size during EC I think.
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>>149214080
Don't forget Moscow. Literally in no rotations but I've seen it in custom lobbies.
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>>149214058
>>implying no stabilizer
you mean something the first M60 should already have. yes
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>>149213976
I doubt the Soviet Navy will even get added until the very end, at the start of WW2 they had three(!) battleships, all were from WW1 or earlier.
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You know there are only 3 and a half years left until we have to find a new year to use instead of 2020.
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>>149214190
Proofs it had one that was worth something?
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>>149213737
No thanks, unless I buy a premium tank I never see doing US tree. Most of it is cancer where the grind goes to shit.
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>>149213730
>The channel in that bit of the map is roughly 30km~ across. Depending on how "realistic" Gaijin makes ships, it'd be pretty close range for most ships.

no, it is not that small
only the largest ships could theoretically shoot by 20+ km but those mostly were crap shots, the more realistic would be like ~15+km

but naval maps without islands to hide is a cancer, you will quickly see it yourself when the ships come

also they will have to make accuracy higher than real because otherwise you will miss like 95% of your shots
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>>149214207
Muh naval pooperpower
>>
yeah, i know, some ships killed other ships on like 25+km distances but the accuracy of those shots was horrendous
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>spaghettiboos legitimately believing this secret reveal is going to be an Italian tree
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>>149214818
just stop it already
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I hope the reveal is nip tanks
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>>149214926
It's never coming, man. Let it go.
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>>149214818
>>149214818
>slavshits legitimately beleiving this secret reveal for pilots and tankers is just a Tu-95

>slavshits actually believe the big 'hyped' reveal that we're all supposed to be excited for is another bomber that further ruins plane RB and SB and GF RB
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>>149214492
Naw, if they do BIG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wT1xkRpCKk ships the English Channel is still breddy tiny.
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>>149213229
?

Test flying the Attacker and the map is still tiny as fuck.
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>>149214926
>France has planes, tanks AND ships that could be relevant Tiers I-V

>Italy has less chances of a tank tree than the japs
>enough aircraft to maybe squeeze into Tier III
>only real point of relevancy was their navy
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>>149215413
Might have to do the mission editor in the bottom right corner and select the BoB map.
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>>149215413
naw, the map expands as you get near the edges
head towards france
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>>149215489
I got sent back after about 2 minutes of flying towards it.
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>>149215125
The Tu-95 is nowhere near as cancerous as the Tu-4

Given the picture of the hangar the WT Twitter posted it's very likely we'll get the Tu-95
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>>149215563
>not even all 9.0s will be able to catch the Tu-95
>nowhere near as cancerous
Stop saying this, helmet.
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>>149215542
me too, actually
guess they pulled a "increased client improved" on it
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>>149215648
>lone Tu-95 in space
>allied fighters groundpound instead of trying to chase it like retards
>Tu-95 sits in space as it watches their tickets drain and can do nothing to stop it
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>>149215823
>"increased client improved"
what the fuck
client stability improved
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>>149215648
The Tu-95 Gaijin would add ingame wouldn't be faster than any 9.0s ingame, it'd be the version with 12,000hp engines. Still quick, but not jet-outrunning quick.
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>>149215962
The F9F-2 is still a 9.0, even if it shouldn't be.
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>>149215823
>>149215542
Just do a Hardest Day custom game.
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>>149216137
The F9F-2 still has a max speed in excess of 900km/h, faster than what the Tu-95 should be able to go.
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what does the Tu-95 even get for bombs? From what I read everything says like 10kg of missles and a giant autocannon on the tail for ground pounding
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>>149216313
>All up and down the thread people have been claiming it goes either 925 km/h or 905 km/h
>suddenly it doesn't
Wow, anon, you really made me think.
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>>149216434
Those numbers are for the Tu-95MS, because everyones going to wikipedia, scrolling down to specifications and taking the max speed there as fact, ignoring that it's got different engines than the first Tu-95 models.

The NK-12 generates 12,000hp, the NK-12M generates 14,800hp. Bit of a large gap.
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>>149193846
>like the F-35
Literally kys kid. The F-35 is good at quite a few things.
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>>149216750
>I'm going to talk out my ass because I'm a superior intellectual who doesn't need to read the thread!
Most people have been citing http://fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-95.htm
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>>149216750
That's not true.

http://fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-95.htm

The very first Tu-95s:
>The first two fully equipped Tu-95 aircraft left the plant in August 1955 and began flight tests in October 1955. Carrying a load of 5,000 kg, it reached a maximum speed of 850 km/h and a service ceiling of 10,200 m with a maximum range of 12,100 km


The Tu-95M (next design of Tu-95):
>he subsequent aircraft, designated as TU-95M, had more powerful and more fuel-efficient NK-12M engines that allowed increased take-off weight. During tests in September and October 1957, it reached a maximum speed of 905 km/h, a ceiling of 12,150 m and a range of 13,200 km.

....

The Tu-95MS which is a later gen and I doubt we'll get. No numbers are listed in paragraph about it but the chart below says the max speed is 830, i'm assuming this is with max load.


>>149216331
We'll get some assortment of bombs, the first gens of Tu-95 were designed for '9000kg of bombs'
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>>149217467
Citing what I'm literally telling you?
>The first two fully equipped Tu-95 aircraft left the plant in August 1955 and began flight tests in October 1955. Carrying a load of 5,000 kg, it reached a maximum speed of 850 km/h and a service ceiling of 10,200 m with a maximum range of 12,100 km.
>The subsequent aircraft, designated as TU-95M, had more powerful and more fuel-efficient NK-12M engines that allowed increased take-off weight. During tests in September and October 1957, it reached a maximum speed of 905 km/h, a ceiling of 12,150 m and a range of 13,200 km.

It's saying the same thing I'm saying, which is that the first Tu-95s, the one's Gaijin is most likely to add, had the less powerful NK-12 engines. They were then upgraded to more powerful NK-12M engines, which gave it a higher top speed.

>>149217764
What isn't true? The fact that the original engines in the Tu-95 generated 12,000hp, and was subsequently slower than the one with 14,800hp engines? You know, the exact same thing your source is saying?
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Holy shit guys the Tu-95 is not being added. It would be literally useless without its Missile payloads which WT can't support.
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>>149218232
It can carry standard FAB bombs you realise. Pretty sure every single bomber in the Russian inventory could carry FAB bombs, even.
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>>149218058
You said those numbers are for the Tu-95MS, which is false. Both of them are for under the Tu-95M in the paragraph and chart.

No one is citing the wiki like you claim
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So if soviets get the Tu-95 that means clappers get the B-52A right?

Can't wait for the B-52A that goes 1050 km/h and literally out runs every jet fighter. Dis gonna be good.
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>>149218449
No, B-47.
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>soviet situation awareness
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>>149218334
>No one is citing the wiki like you claim


Can you prove this?

No, because neither of us can read the minds of every poster. I mentioned the wikipedia specification because it's pretty common for idiots to do the bare minimum research by glancing at the wikipedia specifications section, then come crying about how it's going to be OP.
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So tactical nukes when???
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>>149218896
The numbers 925 and 905 literally come from http://fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-95.htm

if you look at the wiki it says "920 km/h".


Saying 925 and 905 were people quoting the wiki is factually wrong and you should be ashamed of yourself.
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>>149219048
Confirmed for literally never.
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>>149219194
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>>149218549
>Top speed 607 mph (976km/h)

So basically hunters have to kill the B-47s?
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>>149219254
Uhm... Back the fuck off??!?
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>>149219286
Bongs are projected to receive the Supermarine Scimitar.
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>>149219468
do bongs even fight americans very often?
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>>149219254
Woops, replied that to the wrong person

>>149219171
Anyways, the hangar in the picture is where the first PROTOTYPE of the Tu-95 was first housed, correct? So based on that, Gaijin are most probably going to add the first prototype of the Tu-95. Which means that it will be the one with either the 2TV-2F (12,500hp, from what I can find) or the NK-12 (12,000hp).
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>>149219468
I will choke someone if we get any more brit jets before the Sea Hawk.
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>>149219846
I thought there was a player making a Sea Hawk?
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>>149156014
never heard of it. Care to point who said it? You wouldn't speak out of your ass, would you?
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>playing H&G
>someone talking in chat about how the Chaffee was built as a medium tank to fight other medium tanks
I want to cry.

>>149219543
All the time. Hokkaido was my most common map for all of tier 4 claps.
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>>149214937
me too desu
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>>149220067
one of those literally has a torpedo

how does it qualify as a tank
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>>149220023
>gg
>you only won because you had post war tanks
>what post war tanks
>the comet

people are just retarded desu
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>>149220115
Nobody uses torpedos on land
They'll never see it coming
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>>149219680
П113 A7 is the hanger of the first Tu-95

П113 is also apparently has something to do with the Yak-52 feeding system, but i doubt we're getting a Yak-52
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>>149220115
Yeah and one of them has a 300mm mortar that literally can not be used in direct fire but because Japan is the land of the rising millimeter peter you're gonna see both of them in game at some point.

I'm only interested in the 3/4/5 chi series and the type 5 ko-tu
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>>149220241
just use boom and zoom to drop them on top of enemy tanks
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>>149220371
>drive up to unsuspecting enemy
>roll torpedo on top of them
>set a timer
>reverse like hell
GENIUS PRAN, GRORY TO NIPPON
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If we do get the Tu-95 hopefully because we already have ATGMs for tanks we will get the model designed for Air-to-surface missiles
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>>149220534
>power to weight ratio of 3

might be somewhat difficult
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>>149220568
Fuck that, gib pave gat.
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>>149220568
I would flat out stop playing whatever GF BR range the Tu-95 is if it got Air-to-surface missiles.
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>>149220286
>Japan is the land of the rising millimeter peter
wut
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>>149220689
PAVE GAT
FUCK YEAH MOTHERFUCKER
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>flying any tea plane without 4x Hispanos

Why even bother lmfao
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>>149220795
PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
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>>149220115
to attack american lvt in water :3
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>>149214190
It actually shouldn't have a vstab
t. avid m60 driver
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>>149219543
>
lel
95% of UK games Hokkaido
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so another russian cancer bomber? why not add a german one? they need one too
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>>149220953
>>149220795
>this kills the RB GF
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>>149220934
>not liking Hurricanes
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Hello I am new to this site and thread.

I was playing some War Thunder Air Combat game and a player was doing very very better than me in Arcade Air Battles. I was in my Japanese premium biplane and this player was in a German plane, an HE something? Anyway he shredded everyone in the game...like stomped...it was God like. I tried to talk to him in the game chat but he kept saying "Stfu noob I'm pwning" which is understandable as he was on a hot streak and absolutely dominating the game.

Afterwards I asked someone in the next game if they had every played with or heard of this elite ace fighter pilot and they said not only did they know him but that he actually offers lessons to become like him (though no one can ever truly be equal to him in skill.)

He said to visit 4chan.org and click on "Video Game Generals" and look for the War Thunder thread. It took me a while to find it haha! The board is a little unorganised. But I digress, anyway he said to come here and ask for a player named "Yak Lives Matter" and to request personal lessons on how to become an elite ace fighter pilot like him.


Well here I am! Anyway my IGN is DinkaDooMan23 if you want to add me to your friends list! Thanks :D
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>>149221884
this cannot be real

i refuse to believe it
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>>149221478
It's only 20mm, good against soft and lightly armored targets.
Nothing special but fucking cool.
Also limited traverse

SG11 on the other hand.
Oh boy.
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>>149221597
But I do. When they have 4x Hispano :^)
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>>149222020
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>>149221884
You are out of the game, that's what you wanted.
I'll spend some of my energy to tell you a few things.
First, you are one adorable monkey to my eyes, a really stupid one, since what you just said is wrong, since you can talk about math using words, one plus one is two, and you can understand nature without understanding math, you drop an apple, it falls and so on :)
a small tiny lecture to you, understand it.

And since you are not in, you don't want to know how to.. for example know how to calculate how to get your dream job? Like I have.. or.. How to be the perfect father?
Those are all states of everything in existence, plausible ones.


And yes, I am aware this is waste of time, like trying to teach algebra to a dog, but to others here who don't get this, be humble, don't attack me, but the theories, we will never be finished, but we can use these for literally anything..

be smart, for once in your life at least.
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>>149222232
Im just gonna post ground attack modifications and shit.
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>>149221884
Fuck off Yak
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>>149222368
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>>149222348
>You are out of the game, that's what you wanted.
>I'll spend some of my energy to tell you a few things.
>First, you are one adorable monkey to my eyes, a really stupid one, since what you just said is wrong, since you can talk about math using words, one plus one is two, and you can understand nature without understanding math, you drop an apple, it falls and so on :)
>a small tiny lecture to you, understand it.
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>>149222368
neat. go on.
Are those just bazookas mounted on the wing?
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I think I wanna change my name back to CheckYoPriv. . .
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>>149222483
>>149222538
Panzerfausts
Field mods interest me the most
Too bad Gaijin will never bend to my autistic needs.
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>>149222574
Change it to CuteBoipucci instead :3
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>>149222621
>>149222538
Now if you want bazookas I got this
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>>149221884
I was at a restaurant with my wife a few weeks ago.
My wife went to the bathroom and told me when she got back, that when she walked in a woman was taking the loudest piss she ever heard, like someone running a bath with both taped turned on fully. My wife peed, washed her hands and was fixing her hair and lipstick when the woman finally stopped, my wife waited around to see the monster that had unleashed that torrent in the cubicle next to her (who at this point was still going), expecting some giant hamplanet, imagine my wife's surprise when the piss finally stopped and out walked YakLivesMatter

My wife said he was already going when she walked in and went for at least a further two minutes, his flowing only slowing in the last 10 seconds or so.
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>>149136670
their biggest advantage is so they don't need additional space for comfort women in carriers
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>>149222774
Another photo
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>YLM comes online
>thread immediately goes to shit
Hmmmm I wonder what happened here
>>
PARATROOPERS WHEN?!?!?!?!
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>>149222974
causation does not imply correlation

and vice versa

:^)
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>>149223171
FUCK OFF YAK
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>>149222935
when was this
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>>149222935
Well here's a P-47 with hispano gun pods
Was gonna post the one with the B-24 armed with bazookas but cant, for some reason, find it at all.
Gonna go look for it.
>>149223486
If that's Bazooka Charlie, WWII
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>>149223696
Better angle of the Bu-181, shows rocket to plane proportions better
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>>149222020
>It's only 20mm
>not posted from my Mk 149 APDS
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>>149223842
Of course the infamous CH-57 gun ships.
>>149223862
When was that APDS developed?
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>>149224014
I'm not sure, but I think the VADS is projected to have it.
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>>149224014
Oops meant CH-47
This is some Jap shit I remember nothing about but existed, iirc it took out a couple clap bombers because the bottom is just a shitload of 20mm cannons
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speaking of killing tanks

ptab when?
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>>149224161
Jap heavy fighter line can never have too much.
>>149224205
I was just about to post that
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>>149224205
that kills the tank
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>>149220568
>not superior A-4B with AGM-12
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>>149223862
>>149224103

Mk 149 is DU, I highly doubt Gaijin will add it. It's not exactly an official "rule" that there's no DU, but I'm pretty sure Gaijin doesn't wanna deal with the bullshittery DU does when penetrating a vehicle.
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>>149224326
pretty much

Il-2 can carry a few hundred of them I think
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>>149224310
Here's
Uh
This
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>>149224538
That Fw 189 we """""""""have""""""" """in game""""""""""" was also built into a ground attacker
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>>149224828
We have a 189?
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>>149224886
Gaijin added it 1.57, they've yet to give us an opportunity to win it in an event. So it's in the game, but no one owns it.
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>>149224828
better photos of the SG 113
>>149224886
Event plane.
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>>149225009
Soooo... what purpose is there mounting this in an Hs-129?
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>>149225123
Its basically a bunch of APDS/APCR I cant remember which that is triggered by the radar on the front to shoot downward, imagine the 75mm duck but instead of having to take dangerous shallow angled attack runs you can just fly straight over
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>>149225123
There's a lot of shit they were mounted on.
Well designed to
There's a photo floating around with a FW-190 set up with them on it, I'll go find it.
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>>149225962
>>149225784
Seems like it would be incredibly difficult to accurately hit targets, considering the velocity difference firing straight downwards. You'd have a split second of time on target.
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>>149226064
>triggered by radar
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>>149226064
You'd have a split second on most things tbqh.
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Germany was really into mounted shit into wings to take out bombers/ tanks from above/below during the war.
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Killed the thread gimme new shitposts to add
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>>149227853
Are you a newfag
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>>149227985
No I've been gone for like 6 months
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>leopard is best top tier tank
>kill 2-3 of them every match in sim with my pt76
should I go for russian tier 5 instead of german
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>>149228832
>>leopard is best top tier tank
wut
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>>149213737
>tfw I haven't even gotten past the meh ass Sherman models and the first 76mm.
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Italian tree fucking never.
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>>149230398
Ganbarimasu housefire-chan!
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>>149230481
>only T3 plane is the MC 205
>tree ends
Nothing to fill it with, m8
Italy was only in the war for a couple of years
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>>149228832
>>149229080
Armor doesn't matter as long as it protects you from MGs for most t5s vs other t5s, but a T-10M will fare a lot better vs lower BR'd enemies than a Leo or Sherri.
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>>149231283
You're talking out your ass, m8. There's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggiane_Re.2005 and more.
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>>149231285
I know thats the argument why leopard is best because its faster than anything and armor doesnt matter at tier 5
but will my t10 actually protect me from some incoming shells?
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>>149231283
So they could at least expand it within the german tree.
>inb4 premium)))))))
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>>149231447
The M48's best shell is 170 mm pen APHE until it unlocks its HEAT-FS as a tier 3 module and it's a BR 7.7 tank. Your armor protects you from tons of shit.
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>>149231372
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggiane_Re.2005
>Max speed: 628km/h

Like he said, tier III.
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>>149231729
>only T3 plane is the MC 205
>like he said
Those goal posts must be awfully light for you to be throwing them around like that.
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>>149231567
I have the M103, I'd trade armour for mobility any day. Armour can maybe protect you from things that aren't slinging APDS or HEAT-FS, but the amount of tanks that do that are very small. Meanwhile with Leopard mobility you can gain an advantage over every tank slower than you, which is almost every one.
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>>149231843
>M103
>armor
T-that was a joke, right?
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>>149231815
Are you really this dedicated to the argument that you're going to nitpick about goal moving? The point is still the same, Italy has fuck all aircraft, fuck all tanks, and is not getting it's own tree.
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>>149231908
M103 does have quite a fair bit of armour, yes. The only problem with that armour is how screwed up the slopes around the cheeks and mantlet are, but other than that it's more than frontally invulnerable to APHE and AP shots.
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>>149231908
It's pretty reliable against Slav APHE and 'alright' against APDS looking straight on.
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>>149231567
should I go for is3 first or t54?
(also have to grind out 170k for t44-100)
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>>149232290
Russian heavy line is a dead end, the T-10M isn't a proper MBT

Start grinding the T-54, the T-62 is getting added this coming patch.
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>>149231942
Even if you consider this many not enough for their own tree, I'd far rather these be added than more napkinwaffe bullshit.

>>149232290
T54 has a more advanced armor design and they're the same BR. IS-3 isn't bad, though.
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>>149231942
>italy has fuck all aircraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Regia_Aeronautica_aircraft_used_in_World_War_II
Fucking kys
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>>149231942
I bet you're a naziboo afraid that glorious G.55 will outperform your beloved 109s
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>>149232424
That's a list full of prototypes, trainers and recon planes. The few actual aircraft on that list that could be added are all from 1943 at the latest, and at most could fill out a tiny bit of Tier III.

Were you trying to prove my point or disprove it, I can't tell.

>>149232370
Same goes for that list, though you've at least managed to scrape the bottom of the barrel clean rather than just linking a wikipedia article.


Also, who fucking says the only alternative is nazi planes? There were a whole host of other nations involved in WW2 that made vehicles, make an international tree.

>>149232549
>The best fighter Italy could make
>641km/h
Not a naziboo, regardless it's not got me quivering in my boots.
>>
>>149232796
International tree would be hell for matchmaking for everything but AB. As much as I want some neutral country planes, you can fuck off with that shit until Gaijin finds a way for nazi sabre and nazi mig to fight on opposite sides.
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>>149232976
Easy, have and Axis international tree and Allied international tree.

It's a better idea than trying to make half a tree with Italy
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>>149232290

What the anon said about the t54

>tfw have all three and ready to grind more
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>>149232796
>le top speed is everything meme
>>
>>149233051
That's fine for Polish shitboxes, but where do the Swiss planes go? Where do the Swedish planes go?
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>>149233171
Top speed and climb rate gives you the 80% solution to how effective a plane will be in War Thunder.
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>>149233245
Not posted from my zero?
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>>149233245
Well, too bad mc202 already outclimbs literally everything
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Italy
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>>149233240
Axis, they sure as shit weren't helping the allies.

>>149233395
The zeroes that stop past Tier III? The ones supposed to prove speed isn't everything?
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>>149233245
>implying war thunder isn't a mouseniggering turnshitter's heaven
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>>149233395
>sample size: 1 match
Lotta good data here cap'n.
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>>149233468
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>>149233484
Tier has no influence on matchmaking, homie, and you can see beercans and tempests in zeroes.

>>149233509
http://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/a6m5_zero 74% win rate
http://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/a6m5otsu 66% win rate
http://thunderskill.com/en/vehicle/a6m5ko 75% win rate
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>>149233492
The early zeroes shit on everything because of their superb climbrate coupled with their maneuverability. The late zeroes start to suck because their maneuverability goes down, climbrate stays the same, and BR goes way up.
>>
>>149233484
>playing past tier III
>>
>>149233706
And? They're still Tier III. You know, where I was saying Italian air tree would end.

Italy's air tree would make even Japans one seem full.
>>
>>149233706
Looking at Jap win rates isn't really fair due to the Jap Airstart Bias. I'm more interested in the sub-1 kill per battle of all but the prem zero, real war-winners those planes there.
>>
>>149233943
>jap airstart bias
low-alt subhuman burger detected
10k+ or gtfo ok?
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>>149233886
The premium zero is tier 4, but I don't mind if you backpedal some more.

>>149233943
They're still >1 on frags per death, and zeroes have to carrier start. You've also gotta keep in mind that most players, including myself, are enormous shitters.
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>>149233886
I don't even give a shit about where it would end. I just want my pizza with as many toppings as possible.
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>>149234094
I don't get it. Do you not agree that getting an airstart while your enemy does not in ~70% of matches provides a pretty strong advantage?
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>>149234150
>The premium zero is tier 4
Only because of the Tier IV reward bonuses. It is still a Tier III aircraft. In fact I'm pretty sure Gaijin did move it to Tier III a while back, but moved it back because weebs whined about the reward bonus.
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>>149234261
>it's low tier it doesn't count
>even if it fights """superprops""" it doesn't count
>even if it's not low tier it doesn't count
What, exactly, does count?
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>>149234216
i play arcade
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>orange dying from AAA
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Why do people look at WR more than KDR when the latter matters more?
>>
>>149234357
>What, exactly, does count?

When it's not a Tier III aircraft. Which the Zero is. Getting maximum uptiered and facing Tier IV planes doesn't make it a Tier IV plane.
>>
>>149175953
sure why not
if you use android, when the virtual keyboard appears click its settings option and add another keyboard layout, even easier than with a desktop since for desktop you also need keyboard stickers to know what you type and with a phone you use a virtual keyboard
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>>149234575
Because some vehicles win through PvE.

>>149234657
>Getting maximum uptiered and facing Tier IV planes doesn't make it a Tier IV plane.
>The A6M5 otsu needs a max downtier to see the P-51D-5
>It's the same BR as the Bf 109 K-4
>It's the same BR as the IL-10 (1946)
>It's the same BR as the Spit LF IX
Does tier four start at BR 6.0 in your fantasyland?
>>
>>149234657
>tier
>meaning anything
>>
>>149234971
No, dude, no. It clearly does. Anon told me so, and xe's an expert.
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>>149234878
Desu I'd take the A6M5 over the K4.

How did I do that bad in the J2M3, like how the fuck
>>
>get bored of game
>decide to try out ulq since I'm quitting anyway
>everything is crystal clear
>binoculars actually work at showing me long rages without spawning in bullshit

welp

cucked myself this whole time I guess.
>>
>>149234878
Tier IV starts at Tier IV, which the Zero isn't at. Like you seem to be really, really in denial about that fact. Tier IV is the J7, J2M, A7M. Not the Zero.

And the fact is I'd take a P-51, LF IX and K4 over the Zero any day because they are far more suited for War Thunders combat than the Zero, which relies on turning and only turning. A P-51D pilot could run rings around an entire Zero team, literally and figuratively, if he plays to his strengths of speed and alt.

Or, you can continue trying to insist the Zero is a Tier IV aircraft, in which case I'll just keep telling you it's not, because it isn't. And Italy will continue not having any fighters suitable past Tier III.

>>149234971
Try reading the thread before replying friend, this all stems from spaghettiboos in denial about their lack of planes. Anon here has taken personal offence at me implying that speed actually might mean anything about an aircrafts performance.
>>
>>149235230
i tried ulq twice for a few games and switched back both times cos invisible tanks are annoying as shit
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>>149235220
>most battles in one plane is 34
Disgraceful, 2bh.

>>149235239
>Tier IV starts at Tier IV, which the Zero isn't at.
>except that one tier 4 zero that isn't even a real Scotsman
Jesus, anon, do you even read what you write? I bet you're >>149231942 , too.
>>
>>149235326
How'd you get invisible tanks? Low Keen vision?
>>
>>149235404
spade and move on lad, I'm here to grind.
>>
>>149235420
Even maxed you get tank pop in reliably on big alameme
>>
>>149230398
You'll never own an M60A1 Uzuki.

Why even idol?
>>
>>149235404
Except that one Zero that is literally only Tier IV for the premium bonus? The one that Gaijin even moved to Tier III before moving it back? Yeah, that one. I thought we already went over that already, maybe I hallucinated or something.

Also that is me, do you have a problem with me pointing out the obvious spaghettiboo? You're beginning to get more grating the the average naziboo on here.
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>>149235768
>literally sticking to your guns on a logical fallacy
>>
>>149235863
Wow, excellent counter argument!
>>
>>149235898
It literally is in tier four, regardless of circumstance and whether or not you like it. There's nothing here to argue.
>>
So the Bf109 is a fucking climbing monstrosity, but what's the deal for the FuckeWulf 190?
>>
>>149235984
The fact that it's only Tier IV for the premium bonus isn't an argument? It literally would be a Tier III right now if weebs hadn't whined about the lowered premium bonus.

You also keep clinging to this dying argument rather than admitting Italy has no aircraft past Tier III, which is amusing.
>>
>>149236050
fast up-down monstrosity
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I like tanks
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>>149213737

Anyone else think that from the back, the M60's tracks look like a girl with long legs wearing thigh highs?
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>>149236050
Climb as normal, if you find yourself in front turn back towards your allies once the enemy is in sight, let the fight descend a little bit, and then kill everything. FW 190 is an up-down meme machine once you get to a point in the fight where you are more up than the enemy.
>>
>>149235420
they disappear behind lamp poles sometimes and stuff
>>
>>149236072
Why on God's green earth would I argue against a moved goal post? A theoretical Italian tree would have more than just the MC.205 in tier three.
>>
>>149236171
>>149236080
What do you two mean with "up-down"? I don't understand.
>>
>>149236186
Yeah, you're right, it might have the G.55 too! Good thing what I've been repeating is that Italy doesn't have an air tree past Tier III.

Here's a hint, not all anons are the same. I'm not even the guy who said the MC.205 would be alone at Tier III, amazing right?
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>>149235738
>Uzuki

>>149236167
i surealy think that the back of m103's turret looks as a girl's lifted ass
>>
>>149236220
Always BnZ, never turnfight in the Fw 190
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Started playing RB five days ago.
How'd I do /wtg/?
And how can I improve
>>
>>149236321
>i surealy think that the back of m103's turret looks as a girl's lifted ass
please tell me you dont fap to a tank.
>>
>>149236220
Once you go down a little you start going fast, and then by only going up and then back down you can stay extremely fast and you won't even have time to tell P-51s and Tempests that it's nothing personal as you disintegrate them with four or six 20mm because you're going so fast all the time.
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Are premium planes just normal planes + talisman and then a silver talisman as well?
>>
>>149236340

How the fuck are we supposed to give constructive criticism based on purely your thunderskill. If you want constructive criticism, upload a game you think was good to youtube, we'll watch it and tell you any mistakes you made.
>>
>>149236412

P much
>>
>>149236340
The thunderskill stats are almost meaningless. Also there's no way you're averaging four kills per battle unless you're exclusively playing Yak-1 or cannon Hurricane or something.
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>>149236340

Thunderskill is a meme. If anything post stats.
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>>149236393
surely i would never masturbate to a clapper tank

now, if we think about russian tanks...

it's su-85 btw
>>
>>149236453
Do they ever plan to introduce a silver talisman?
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>>149236638
why would you need one
>>
>>149236730
So i can earn more silver in my fav tank or plane :3?
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>>149236451
>>149236521
>>149236547

Sorry guys, am being a shitter and posting from phone.

Is this helpful?
I know it shit compared to a SS of WT stat page.
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>>149236553
>T-34 with the F34 and an IS-2 are about to do it
>"Silly T-34, you dont have enough pen for my back!"
>>
>>149236764
>tanks
>>
Did Gaijin increase tank rp reward since the start of 1.59? I could have swore T1 tanks were like 20-30% rp gain and now they have a 100%
>>
>>149236805
i think i saw cthulhu
>>
>>149236830
I think that's just the rewards display change from not that long ago.
>>
>>149236809
Sadly I'm shit with planes, and i chose WT over WoT after seeing their HP bar bullshit.

Also, vg the chat room is populated with dead or deaf-mute people. Only had one good game squadding up with you shitters.
>>
Been playing German Casemate TD line

Genuinely don't fucking understand why the Jagdpz IV and Hetzer are at 4.7. Regular tanks have better guns than they do. It's literally the same pen as the Pz. IV F2 at 3.3.
>>
>>149237006
meme slope

that is easily defeated by shooting your viewport
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>>149236990
>i chose WT over WoT after seeing their HP bar bullshit.

WT is literally HP bar bullshit disguised as RNG bullshit
>>
>>149236990
Most people still around are stuck in the Tier V grindfest, no one wants to play the most boring German tank.
>>
>>149237131
there's a huge difference between WoT and WT when it comes to damage.
>>
>>149237006
But anon, think of the low profile! Perfect for cheeky breekie sneaky flank attack.

>>149237087

>>2016
>>not paying gajoob your sheckles for shitty bush camouflage.
>>
>>149237131
You can't repeatedly shoot the commanders cupola on an otherwise frontally invulnerable tank and kill them in WT. Except for the T95 .

Also, WoT is so much more rife with RNG than WT.
>>
>>149237202
>WoT
>one health bar

>WT
>multiple health bars that can be depleted to 0 in a single shot

yes what a huge difference
>>
>>149237292
If you actually think they are similar in any way you are a delusional arcade player.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alEPcfsUY9U
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>>149237292
Spot the person who's never played WoT and just uses it as a buzzword.
>>
>>149237292
I'd argue that WT is more realistic in the way that it calculates damage according to real life, barring russian nuke rounds.

But I think the biggest reason I chose WT for tanks was the lack of instant revives, and gold rounds.

Literally paying money to shoot nickels at the enemy for more pen seemed like the most bullshit P2W ever.
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>>149237292
>WoT
>need lots of penetrating shots, even if they're in places that don't matter

>WT
>only need one if you're not shit

As angry as shit like shot traps make me, I appreciate that they're in the game.
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>big, massive, high-velocity metal slug penetrates your back, right through your engine, which would be technically FUBAR with a big hole in it
>Hey Vladamir, lets go repair it, it will take only 30 seconds!
>>
>>149237465
>>149237447
>>149237446
>>149237437
ITT people who sucked at WoT
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>>149237216
But you can.
>>
>>149237518
Being able to repair destroyed barrels and engines may be bullshit, but the lack of spare parts really kills the """"""""""fun"""""""""" in >tanks

There's a reason crews don't ditch their tank after a single penetrating hit or why there isn't a "morale" crew skill in this game
>>
>>149237617
>all that spall from SPAA
Is this a Jewish trick?
>>
>>149237707
Just russian ZSU bias
>>
>>149237701
I just imagined some T-34 crew literally
>O BLYA IVAN, PANZER PENETRATED OUR TANK!
>dont worry sergey, just stick band-aid or vodka bottle into hole, will be of safer now!
>>
>>149237756
I'm sure you could go and recreate it on the test range then?
>>
>>149237292
>WoT
>can literally kill a tank by shooting any weak point even if nothing is behind it or could get hit from shrapnel


>WT
>Hit +3
>Hit +3
>Hit +6
>Hit +3
>Hit +2
>Hit +3
>Hit +3
>>
>>149237809
>REMEMBER COMRADE
>WE ARE TANK
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>>149237707
>>149237756
KT(H)s commanders cupola passes HE into crew compatment.
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>>149237885
>tfw there will never be protection modules in WT
>>
>>149237946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsA0eaT_6R4
It's true.
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>>149237978
>tfw infantry never
>>
>>149237447
>instant revives
>ammo for real money

that's some old info mang, with the first one around 50 years old
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>>149238053
>the fucking ragdolls
>>
>>149238053
>Heroes & Generals
Man, I would play it more often, if it wasn't shitty optimized. I can run ArmA 3 on Medium settings and 60 FPS, but Heroes & Generals struggles with getting 50 FPS
>>
>>149238127
play darkest hour instead
>>
>>149238018
Gonna go with a pretty solid "no" there, because I just went out on the test range and couldn't replicate that with the IS-2.
>>
>>149238301
Mostly the fucking optics soak up HE and other shit.
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>>149238301
Are you sure you didn't just fuck it up?
>>
>>149238301
>>149238576
https://my.mixtape.moe/gwuwni.mp4
>>
>>149236412
They also have much higher crew ace requirements so a regular plane with a talisman will be aced before a premium version of it.
>>
>>149238663
>>149238674

Wow yep you're right, that's a very consistent weak point right there. It must be a whole pixel wide, how did I miss!
>>
Can someone fucking tell me(excuse the language) why you people refuse to give Italy the right to its own tree? They have tens of aircraft variants going from 1918- to 1945 when the Italian Social Republic capitulated. Post 1943, the Social Republic still produced new aircraft. FRANCE QUIT IN 1940 AND DIDNT DO JACK AGAIN UNTIL 1944. What will you put for things between 1940-44? Spitfires? Thunderbolts? Me109's? There's NOTHING to work with with a French tree. Where's a clear 200-202-205-G55 progression, with variants of such can be made on Italian fighters. France has D520 that's it. SWEDEN? HUNGARY? oh that's right. Those major contributors. Sweden has maybe 4 planes that would even be competitive. Hungary mainly used Luftwaffe hand me downs. Romania makes more sense than Hungary. God. I have put up with so much crap in this game. Praying for an Italian release tree. Watching the game fall to pieces around me. I just want to fly Italian planes. Then I'll quit. I promise. Just damnit all gaijin. You fuckin win. You win. We've all paid. We all put up with your crap. Low tiers are unplayable due to a broken br system. High tiers have no semblance of balance. Jet games have become "whichever team has tu fours wins". I'm tired. I'm just tired. Your the worst company ever in gaming. But we're still here because your the only game that has these planes.

Courtesy of reddit
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>>149239054
It's a bit finicky, but it does work.
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>>149239132
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>>149239135
>it's a bit finnicky
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>>149239132
>They have tens of aircraft

favourite bit desu
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>>149239132
>France
But France doesn't have its own tree. They don't even have medals or non-prems.

>France has D520 that's it.
That's a bit rude to Morane-Saulnier.

>Sweden
>Hungary
What do they have to do with anything?

p.s. Fuck you, gib Kameleon.
>>
>>149239409
it was in reply to someone saying the french tree or an international tree with france/italy/hungary/sweden was more likely than the italian tree
>>
>>149239409
>gib april fools joke
>>
>>149239515
>posted from my Klingon Bird of Prey
>>
>>149239654
One cannon is firing just below the prop hub, the other is apparently firing from some magical position below the wing...
>>
>>149239716
>he doesn't know how to unlock the gimbals on his spacefire mk IXXX
>>
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>You must purchase 3 more Tier 4s to research the B-57A
>bring B-29
>uptiered burger/bong vs nazis
>burger/bong team wipes the floor with the nazis
>3 arados left
>trucks spawn 10 minutes into the match
>I keep telling my team to groundpound before the arados can wipe out our trucks for 20 minutes
>retarded fighterniggers ignore the enemy trucks and let the arados bomb ours and we lose
>>
>>149239716
I think those are photon torpedoes about to strike the spitfire desu sempai baka.
>>
>>149240140
>sempai
>せmぱい
No.
>>
>>149240420
>not spelling it how it's pronounced
I always type it out like that so people will know I didn't just let it get wordfiltered from senpai.
>>
>about to fuck some faggot bomber with a tohou name
>get guns taken out by AA truck
>faggot nukes
>respawn
>take out the faggot AA truck
>take out the bomber nigger
>nigger respawns in a fighter
>get my guns taken out by ANOTHER AA truck
>toho nigger guns me down

I hate this game
>>
>>149240626
ㄹ므...
>>
>>149240838
Hakurei-chan's silk stockings!
>>
>>149240838
Danmaku game was too strong for you.
>>
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>>149240865
>>
NEW
>>149242080
>>149242080
>>149242080
>>149242080
>>149242080
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>>149237447
ever checked how much filler soviet aphe had?
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