Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

Second for highlanders

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>>149118870
Ehhehehehehe... Murbish

Fwee~

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first for human sacrafice.

>>149118223

W H Y

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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/alchemist-mafia/314084/

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>>149118929
Sacrificed to the gods

>>149119036
We're in different guilds.

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xth for butts

KIM HAKKYU HAS YOU ALL BY THE BALLS

NOT EVEN HALF A YEAR AFTER TREE OF SAVIOR RELEASES AND THEY'RE ALREADY FOCUSING ON WOLFKNIGHTS AND SHOWCASING THE SHIT OUT OF IT

HE'S GOT HIS HAND IN YOUR ASS WALLETS, YOU'VE BEEN CONNED BY A KOREAN SNAKE OIL SALESMAN

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Where are the kabba boys
I want to peg you

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>>149119175
if you are gonna repost my screenshots at least post the good ones like this

>>149119149
Can't believe crimson autists go this mad over gem roasting

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>>149119509
*fart your face* bzzz nothing personal kid

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Why do doomposters even exist? Any doomposters around to tell me why you would still play and doompost?

Not a ploy to get you to pvp me but make sure to include your name and location in Fedi (ch1) so we can chat about your opinions and sort this doomposting out.

>tfw no guild

>tfw no hope

>tfw no tp

>tfw no talt

How much exp will the 217 dungeon give me?

>>149119704
Would you sniff?

>>149120119
maybe his stinky feet maybe

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Where are my FUCKING eye colors kim

Is necro without wiz3 viable or does charging flesh cannon take too long without it?

>>149119806
>rance and cats are polar opposites in everything regarding /tosg/ except their mutual hatred for doomposters
I'm okay with this.

>>149120398
I don't even understand why I'm being namedropped any more. You guys are so fucking bored.

Roll up a crafting class, or a templar, or a bee farmer, or a dedicated minigame character.

>>149119704
>posting dead people
stop

>>149120380
it would be suboptimal, but doable
it all depends if you believe IMC will ever rebalance the whole game

if you believe they will, don't follow memes like wiz3, if you believe they'll be forever lazy and just throw more shit on cash shop instead of balancing the game, then go ahead and pick wiz3.

>>149120380
I did worldbossing with Wiz3-thau2-necro2. Cannon and Hoop are doing great damage. About 150k with one cannon, and you have Hoop and Magic Missiles too. It's just necro is weaker than wiz-ele-wlock or fletcher or qs-wugushi

Repent.
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/shut-this-game-down-already/314164

This poor anon who thinks some RO skill is going to save the game.
Poor guy just doesn't understand how Falconer works...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1SieFg4GU

hey guys this game looks good.

>>149120885
Mate it's just memes, chill the fuck out you autist.

Pyro2LinkChrono3 or Pyro3Chrono3 for Sage at rank 8?

>>149120695
I'm pretty sure you can beat elememe by fucking them up with reversi.

>>149120963
>gender locked by class
Why do gooks love this shit? It's fucking retarded.

Bee-god, I'm currently bored of the game and want to make a Paladin Oracle terrorist. How is this so far? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117bb8..11243545.1a2a344155.21314155617195

>>149111847
LISTEN!!
DONT PLAY WUGU!!!

>>149120992
Man, I'm right with them in wanting something amazing for Falconer3, but I just don't see how a skill like that would work.
Besides, it vaguely sounds like sonic strike anyways.

>>149121101
ez pz to animate and with enough info you know your crowd

see shinobi and reaper in tera

>>149120963
>characters are defender, fire mage, templar, and musketeer, total 5 characters
>5 characters
Counting is hard - IMC.

>>149119806
You're so lucky I'm away from home pizza punk.
I'll give you the bully when I'm back.

>>149120963
It looks garbage
Another generic as fuck 3d asian mmo
No thanks

>>149121159

Why

>>149120963
>have a unique pseudo 2d styled mmorpg with unique class system
>drop everything about it to focus on some generic black desert ripoff
They even ripped off the gender locked classes. IMC is really IMCompetent.

>>149120963
>1:50
>literally 0.2 fps hoglan
im laughing so fucking hard

>>149121034
Reversi isn't working on elemeshit. It's not like capture, reversi is working mostly on healer spells, like zaibas, heal, safety.

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>>149120963
>Wolfknights Templar: controls the power of God and uses recovery and other supportive skills
>ToS Templar: plants

>>149120695
do you think that same build but losing one rank of thau and getting 1 rank of sorc instead would make not as good?

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>>149121275
Come at me you've no idea how many pizzas I'm behind. I'll roll you into dough, son.

Picture related as always.

>>149121334
Dispellers, antidotes, and plague doctors make wugu useless in PvP
Other wugus make you useless in PvE

Pick something else or else you'll regret it!

>>149120963
>demoing
>2fps
lmao
m
a
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>post yfw waiting for news on c8 and/or merge

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Futureproof still has slots for new member. Whisper me in-game for an invite.

>>149121467
I'm way too high for cats posts

>>149121224
and yet Tera is fucking dead because they keep releasing race locked classes

It's retarded

>>149120963
I wouldn't mind playing their gladiator in tos.

>>149121467
You nothing but a pizza shit. I eat pizzas like you for breakfast lunch and dinner.

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모든 당신 게이 hehehe 재생하는 것을 잊지 마세요
[Wolf Knights] ;)

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>>149121467

>>149121027
>not Wiz3Pyro3
>not Pyro3Thau3

>>149121537
Will I regret it?

>>149121467
That pizza looks like shit man. Don't you have any pictures of better looking gourmet pizzas instead of generic fastfood pizzas where they just shit some mozzarella and pepperoni and call it a day?

>>149121739
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

>>149121817
once lolipan finds out atom is still playing yes

>>149121828
>gourmet pizzas
I like this meme a lot.

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>pizzaposting

>>149121426
Why do one would need sork for? Especially one rank of it.

No, you can sacrifice one rank for sorc, and even sacrifice Necro2 for Warlock

>>149121642
No, Tera is dead because it's optimized like dog shit, classes are really imbalanced, and the content goes from piss easy to stupid hard unless you've shelled out real bucks.

>>149121817
The biggest regret is choosing to play a korean MMO. Join us if you already made that leap.

>>149121893
At least something more than just generic looking shit. Like some real italian pizzas and not americunt garbo fastfood.

>>149121828
Cats likes pizza hut. Hes not even a true pizza lover

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>>149121828
This is a 10/10 Pizza in america.

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eheheh 당신 한심한 미국인하지 PVP 기대 [WOLF KNIGHTS]

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>>149121887
I just want people to talk to though.

>>149121940
Man, I've probably played more shitty korean mmos than most people here.
I have no idea why I'm weary of a /vg/ guild, I've been in hotglue and not even /xivg/'s guilds can compare.

Why did a company with such a small dev team try to focus on creating two MMOs at the same time?

Now both of them are a mess, and the better of the two is being ignored because the second one is having its release soon.

>>149120963
>Arathi Basin:The Game

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>>149121134
Its either this or go full Int with Krivis instead of Diev. Please help!

>>149122085
That's a really good question. I can't think of any other dev who has tried to launch to different mmos in the same year

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>>149122009
I hope he's shitting on that pizza because that's just sad.

>>149121923
Because TS is OP in pvp minigame if we ever get that shit, plus cat buffs, sorc passive100 sp regen, and slut outfit.

vs swell the other hand and reversi...

Is warlock really that good? skills seem interesting for a nuke build or something, but god damn such long cooldowns.

>>149122085
>Two

They also got Granado Espada and Mobile games like Black Citadel and Solitaire League.They also thought they could balance two versions when they couldn't balance even once. The truth is that IMC is fucking shit but is constantly promising stuff they cannot and will not fulfill.

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How much silver is this?

>>149122078
Hotglue was actually good and not a /vg/ guild though. Aika was a blast to play with hotglue.

>>149122176
it's fine

>>149122318
bout three fiddy

>>149122078
Drop me a whisper to join up. You might regret it, but your life seems to be full of regrets anyway.

>>149122085
>>149122202
>>149122308
After the shitfest that is tos, especially in korea, I doubt any sane gook would even want to touch wolffuckers. Anyone who's been even keeping up a little bit with IMC news knows the company is extremely horrible and anything made by them should be avoided.

>>149122354
Should I go more Str or Dex for Carve and Smite?

>>149122335
>Aika was a blast to play with hotglue.
Dear god it was the fucking best.
I wish I had stuck with Lenaria in some ways, but holy hell were the betas and early release fun.
Sadly none of these "hardcore pvp" guilds exist anymore and none of the drama around it ever happens.
RIP forever hotglue website.

>>149122528
>>149122335
>was too busy leading one of the Alethius guilds to hang out with hotglue
All I remember about you guys on that game was that one paladin with crazy good gear.

>tfw when no fat girl character like in scavenger page

>>149122009
I'd still eat it

>>149122528
I missed the little excursions into the other regions to fuck up anyone we came across.

>>149122627
We were kings. Literally.

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>>149121416
>implyning being a Templer isn't fun

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>>149122491
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH NEXON SAVE ME PLEASE

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>Visit Event Board
>Tells me come back at 6AM even though I haven't done it today
Is anyone else having this issue?

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>>149122718
10/10
in the United
States
of America

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I'm ready for the big kToS patch, IMC!

>>149122627
If it was aleth, it was probably Reinhart I think he went by. Member of RageQuit.
His dad was some bigwig at one of the major car companies, so he was fucking loaded and loved burning cash on korean mmo cash shops to be OP as shit in them.

>>149122737
It was great. I was never really much more than a low tier player in PvP, but dear god did I love the forum banter.
I wish that still existed, but forums are too tame and people never interact in game anymore.
Plus none of the GMs are cool like the main Feonir GM was, she was great.

Let's get this started

>Chicago deep-dish is the Elementalist of the pizza world

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I can smell the eye colors, Mr. Kim!

>>149122226
>>149122009
the joke is that the picture is from a show where Ramsay goes to bad restaurants and tries to fix them. The restaurant he is in claims that they have the best pizza.

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oh boy, i sure love tree of savior.

>>149123052
Pelt is like the pizza dough.
Ya wouldn't really mind skipping it and eating just the topping but you know things are easier as long as it's there.

>>149122995
Shut up retard
Anybody who has seen the fucking episode knows that the pizza was shit on and trashed

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>>149118770
>OP pic isn't making fun of Alchemist Mafia

ONE JOB.

>>149123161
I'm pretty sure literally every restaurant claims they have the best [insert food here].

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>>149123459
Yeah, IMC has the best MMO on the market right now!

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>>149123415
NO, THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING.

>>149122078
i played with hotglue in aika and the rest of the stuff we played around that time and am in futureproof. futureproof and the /vg/ guilds are very casual compared to hotglue and don't really dominate the server at all. the people in futureproof are friendly enough but it's not /jp/ truNEET. i'll warn you though lolipan strikes me as somebody who might've been kicked let alone leading us. if you ignore lolipan being a cuckold then it's okay

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>>149123580
ToS is the best MMO on the market right now, prove me wrong

>>149123046
>you will never be in as awesome a guild as hotglue was and you will never have as much fun as you did during aika in any other mmorpg ever again
Feels bad man.

>>149122995
I want some pizza now damn

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>>149123760
I can't, ToS is literally a 5 star gourmet pizza with kobe beef sausage!

>>149123046
That's DestroyTokyo, but I don't remember if he used the name Reinhart in that game. He usually stuck to DestroyTokyo.

That was the Alethius guild I was leading.

Fuck off Jinsae

>>149123768
>gets hungry after looking at shitty looking pizza
This is why americunts are all fatties.

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>>149123768
THAT DOUGH IS RAW

RAW

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Tree of Savior has a really well done loot system, both in the dungeons and out in the world.

The grinding areas are very enjoyable, and the spawn rates are high across the board. A smooth experience no matter where you go.

The way world bosses are designed really shows that IMC plays their own game. They are fun, challenging encounters that every player will see as they roam the world.

The questing is a very fun experience and really plays to the strengths of an MMO by encouraging you to group up with others and make friends.

Dungeons and missions are fun, rewarding adventures with exciting rewards waiting at the end.

>>149124127
W-what are you doing anon

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>>149124127
I agree somewhat but
>spawn rates are high across the board
Nope
> exciting rewards waiting at the end
hehehehe
>every player will see as they roam the world
kekmao

>>149124127
can you explain to me the DKP system?

like if an item takes 100milion kills to drop

does that mean if I only do 50 million and then leave I will never get the item?

did I get that right? or why is everyone bitching about it?

>>149123709
Honestly, I wasn't (even less so now) really a /jp/ browser, so I kinda work with people that wouldn't last in guilds like that more.

>>149123767
MMOs with a huge pvp focus will never exist again.

>>149123890
I think he went with that as his forum name so he could drop political quotes as part of his trolling.
Bullshit, you're not Mystic.

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>>149124127

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>>149124179
>meanwhile in bizzaro /tosg/

How can I get the guinea pig?

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How is this pronounced?

My best guess is loo-hoo-uhvik but fuck I have no god damn idea.

>>149124349
Lets say an item has a DKP of 1000
>it takes 1000 kills for that item to drop
>the DKP count is channel wide, meaning that all kills contribute to it
>if the channel count ever hits zero, it resets the DKP count
>maintenance resets all DKP

people are bitching because basically people can jack your DKP

>>149124419
Kiss a capyba

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>>149124127
Good work Julie.

>>149124127
>things we wish were true
I am triggered.

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We can bring the banter back? I don't know. Tosg seems like pussies who can't take a pizza

>>149124389
I forgot all about that political bullshit, god damn it. Evril and those guys had a blast with that.
>Spoiler
The fuck I'm not. My sister has a baby now, by the way. RIP RQ, we had a good run.

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>>149124349
>>149124496
woops, meant to write DPK

DKP is... something else

>>149124349
Imagine spending days grinding for an item, reaching tens of thousands of kills. You think you just have incredibly shit luck.

Then, you find out it's a DKP item, meaning your channel hopping was doing absolutely nothing at all.

So you buckle down and grind out on one channel, and just when you're reaching 9999/10000 kills, a new player comes along on his quest route and kills the last one, getting the item.

>>149124285
>he can't tell it's sarcasm
Are you serious?

>>149124496
Technically, it's not your DPK until you get it you entitled monkey.

>reach corsair3
>dwa doesn't work with pistol

T-thanks guys.

>>149124650
>wanting to use dwa in the first place
What, did you make it through C2 without realizing it's unusable garbage somehow?

>>149124650
we could've told you that. Enjoy Jolly Roger 15 :^)

>>149124496
>>149124636
I see, and there's any reliable way to know if an item is dependant on kills to drop or not?

>>149124569
Your pizzas are all shit though. No one wants shitty pizzas unless you're american.

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>>149124636
mfw I strolled into Spring Light Woods, killed like 50 Shardstatues and got a Wizard Bracelet right in front of a poor little Thaumaturge who said he's killed 2K of them and hasn't gotten one yet.

let's play this game better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dYI_S0vDU8

>>149124574
Man, I found a bit of Cond when I was playing BnS, sadly Lashen wasn't really active with it, so I didn't get to chat with him at all.
Those were great days.
Even if I was a pretty big faggot at times and too easy to rile up after FW and people were kinda dilly dallying with Blink and LoL.

>>149124802
I think every item that has a ???? in the database is DPK, the logic being that there really isn't a percent drop for it when you think about it. Not everything is DPK though of course.

>>149124389
whisper lolicuck then for a invite. he isn't a bad person just somebody you shake your head at cause it's so awkward. everything else is fun even if it's pretty casual

>>149124858
>wizard bracelet
Wow like no one fucking cares, come back when it's at least a battle bracelet or better.

>>149124639
u re fagget

>>149124930
>Wow like no one fucking cares
I guess the Thaum does.

>>149124650
Your fault for not reading and confirming it first. DWA specifically says "your knife". At least pistol shot will get buffed though.

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>>149124927
I always feel like Bot is more of the leader than Lolicuck at this point desu

>>149124942
t. guy who got his DPK "stolen"
I bet the guy who got it is laughing at you. I know I am :^)

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>>149121537

>>149124802
Red recipes dropped by mobs, specific items like Battle Bracelet, Wizard Bracelet, the white boater, mith ore

>>149124650
>>149124685
>>149124712
>>149125002
Just weapon swap, but like they said, it's shit anyways.

>>149125112
>Battle Bracelet
This reminds me, I need to see about farming one or two of these.
I can't think of anything to aim for that is better for a bracelet slot than the gladiator bangle for my build.

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>>149125035

>>149125025
>thinks I'm defending DPK
lmao, DPK? wasn't that a meme?

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>>149124419
You get to be a templar and hope your guild events works for 5+ people or your roll an alt with a build capable to solo it, which in my opinion is sad considering guild events are supposed to not be soloed

>>149124496
Is this tested tho? Also there is a list of those DKP items/or a place where I can see this kind of info?

This seems a nice system for unlucky people trying to get an item/controlling the amount of items in the game, but seems shady and bad planned, because those who not need items have the change to get and let the ones that need it without it just with 1 kill.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1134449f.23334551.15243541.1f293f6571.153155.15253441
Noobs here looking at Cookie cutter builds, why spear throw instead of pierce 13?
please tell me anon-senpai.

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>>149125002
>implying skill descriptions are accurate

Yet stabbing can be used with a toy hammer.

>>149125284
there are items with extremely low DPK numbers (20+) that people have tested and proven this for, the thing is that nobody really knows the exacty numbers for everything so sometimes they just average the kills needed for it to drop, like the white boater is thought to have something stupid like a 100k dpk

is 100 CON enough for necro?

>>149125220
Good luck! The best time to do it is after maintenance before the bots log back in!

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I saw someone "selling" a mob. How do you sell a mob? Transform scrolls? Is that possible with Spectra?

>>149125383
>people have tested and proven this for
>nobody knows the exact number
DPK guys

>>149125467
Spectra mobs don't spawn normally, they can only be spawned through Change so he's an Oracle selling the location of a Spectra he just changed to Druids who need to transform it

>>149125509
>leaving out the rest of the sentence
People can't keep track of DPK numbers for drops that reach into the 1000s, there's no support for this

>>149125449
How many does it take anyways?

>>149125024
lolipan doesn't have a character that's good at world boss, et, or even pvp not mentioning no level cap character. they can't lead us to do anything cause they don't do anything that's endgame themselves. lolipan is more middle management who recruits and organizes minor events that others push them to do.

>>149125701
it's supposedly pretty low, maybe 200? The problem has always been low spawn and lots of bots though

is 300 CON enough for necro?

>>149125441
fuck off rance orbiter

>>149125701
People have said 150 in here, but probably expect 150-200.

>>149125535
Huh, interesting. I wonder how much he charges.

>>149125916
usually 100k, pretty cheap imo

t. Azura

>>149125856
fuck off c8 rance go back to the future where youre the only one still playing this game

So apparently even the Treasure Hunt event is bugged.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/scavenger-hunt-bug/314177

>>149125794
>>149125876
Ah, yeah that sounds painful.
It feels like there isn't very much accessory choice, is there?

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>>149126086
I mean did anyone not expect for it to be bugged?

>>149126135
Gladiator Bands or Sissel Bracelets are your BiS in accesories until you get the super marginally better versions from Saalus(?)

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>>149126194
I didn't because I believed in Kim!

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>>149126194
Sissel seems absolutely worthless with dex though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwusgsGKQ98

i'm still in your heart anon

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>>149126264
that's why they're for full str builds silly

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>>149126382
That's why Gladiator is the clear choice, though I doubt I'll be able to get the recipe without paying.

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>>149126510
band recipes are dropping below 4 mil at least, it shouldn't be too expensive

>>149126086
>>149126194
Sasuga IMC. They can't do anything without having new bugs.

>>149125024
That's because bot is a sassy girl
And has my fucking chest card

>>149126609
On telsiai glad band recipes are still going for 10mil+. I guess on dead servers where no one wants to play anymore, there's no demand for endgame items.

https://tos.neet.tv/skills/29016
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/29017
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/29018

We d2g now?

>>149126510
WBs drops prices are dropping so hard it's getting to the point only Canceril is the only one worth something
Sissel, Gladiator Band, Max Petamion, etc they are all becoming junk in terms of substaining attributes silver sinking, roll and afk necro and mafia bees or don't even think rolling something dependent on high attributes before r8

>>149125983
That is pretty cheap! I'm druid c1 atm and far away from c2. I'd buy though.

>>149126730
>On telsiai glad band recipes are still going for 10mil+
>meanwhile on Fedimian the most expensive Glad Band are about to hit 3.5m
Mafia is also quitting the game because of this
Sissel recipe is getting to 350k too and Ellaganos is about to get ignored, not much time left before Cerberus meets the same fate

>>149126751
what the hell is d2g?

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Bot-chan where's your repair shop?

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>>149127193
This guy

>>149118770
hey lolipan senpai, get this to help your laptop http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834953036

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>>149126730
I can buy 5 gladiator band recipes at that pirce here
Feels good being on decaying server

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-of-users-banned-for-upgrade-exploit/314079/12

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>>149125761
That's pretty rude. I only care about PvP, and each of my characters was made with a particular purpose and/or role in mind. Having a character at 280 is both useless and wasteful, you're just wasting job exp, and the time spent grinding those 10 levels could be better spent grinding on my other PvP characters.

If people want to camp field bosses for drops that aren't even good, or try their luck in ET for untradeable drops that will become obsolete soon, it's their problem. PvE heroes can go ahead and laugh, but ultimatelly, the PvE in this game is garbage and not fun at all. You'll quit soon enough.

>>149127309
I need to get one of those, but I am unsure which designs are better. Have you used this one before?

>>149127506
>the PvE in this game is garbage
>trudges through 270+ levels of "garbage" just so he can play an unbalanced pvp minigame on a carebear server
Buddy, you didn't think that one through did you? Did you really think the pvp in this game is anything but garbage as well?

>>149127506
But there is no pvp at the moment

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>>149127506
Remember to pay tribute to the local khan before your next reroll.

>>149126086
Maintenance incoming

>>149126609
>>149127001
3-4m is still a lot for me still.

>>149127825
>they'll just end up giving everyone the title and special rewards through mail without having to do the "event"
Calling it. Also, STAFF_MAX will again mistakenly send the compensation to everyone instead of just people affected by this bug. Your faithfully :^)

It's amazing how it takes one conversation and mere minutes to turn a guild chat from comfy and fun to not at all comfy.

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>>149127506
>PvE heroes can go ahead and laugh, but ultimatelly, the PvE in this game is garbage and not fun at all

PvP heroes can go ahead and laugh, but ultimatelly, the PvP in this game is garbage and not fun at all

>>149127871
It's a lot for a lot of people
Dead servers also means less potential whale customers so it's not like people wouldn't sell Glad Band at +10m here too, they can't so they have to undercut themself until the product become worthless trash from a merchant profit point of view

>>149127506
>>149128109
Both are garbage. Anyone who thinks one is better than the other is a fucking delusional.

>>149127506
watcha taking at r7 with that qt?

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>>149127939
Julie would never have let this happen.

>>149127506
What PvP?
GvG?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I wish they were good but right now GvG are terrible and only annoying for everyone involved

>>149127705
I like MMO PvP. The core concept behind ToS is solid, even if the execution is bad. Despite the imbalance, PvP so far has been tons of fun. You gotta learn to ignore the pseudo-meta and think outside the box.

Trudging thought the garbage PvE content is part of the game. If you take an MMO and remove the PvE, what do you have left? Oh right, it just turns into a MOBA.

>>149127707
Being unable to think far ahead means MMOs are not for you.

>>149127726
People forget that this game is a questhub themepark. Rerolling is easy as fuck, they'll eventually give us enough quests to go from 1 to level cap without grinding. Rerolling is no problem.

>>149128109
My long experience with RO has taught me that PvE players will always be the first ones to quit. They come, try out the content, and leave as soon as the next new shiny game or server comes up. It's ALWAYS the PvPers who stick around for years.

>>149128245
Featherfoot.

>>149127506
>You're wasting xp by grinding
>Grinding is the one source of unlimited xp in the game

Come the fuck on Loli. Futureproof doesn't even do anything anymore because "why should we do guild events or world boss or ET I only care about pvp with budget items".

Can consumables be used in Team Battle League on kToS?

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>>149128452
But the guild battle arena is almost a MOBA and so is my new fighting game waifu. Stop shitting on MOBAs.

>>149127506
it was rude, but if i'm talking with somebody from hotglue then i'll give it straight no bullshit. being a leader and leading is being a leader and leading. pvp is dead in this game and even if there's some gvg going on you don't lead futureproof since your characters don't even dominate and can't be decisive winning a gvg encounter. i'll give you credit for organizing the gvg league but it's dead and you didn't want to actually improve it nor did you want to even organize 5v5/10v10 with valhalla. if you're so hardcore about pvp then why can't you do 5v5 with them? in the end others are actually making progress in the game whether it's world boss, earth tower, or working towards other goals while you login daily for 200 rush and logout.

sorry, but that doesn't really cut it for being a leader. you get middle management for recruiting and trying to organize stuff, but that's not being a leader. especially since you dodged actual pvp with valhalla doing mock practice for arena.


domination is domination. hotglue was first at pve and the best at pvp. people who are great are great at both. also, the items from 20-40 et will be what wins gvg in the future. you're gonna be rolling around like a scrub in shit gear while they got +50 con armor with +8 aoe defense 1 hitting you cause they got 100% attributes while you're at 50% on gimmick characters

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>>149127506
it really don't matter for those cooling pads, as long as it gives air flows to the heat trap under your laptop then it will be good, the only thing that you really pay for is the look of the pad which no one really cares..... unless you are one of those people that cares if there is shinny wings on it or not.
The only reason why your laptop is ded is because of dell's retarded case design, just get that air into those heat traps and you will be fine

>>149127506
>condemning PVE is shit when you yourself can't do it.
It's like you are some whining kid right now.

Not like you are useful in PvP anyway. I seriously felt pity for your guild that always have to carry you.

>>149127506
I sincerely hope this is just someone falseflagging him, if my guildleader is actually this retarded I'm gquitting.

>>149128720
>if my guildleader is actually this retarded
it took you that long to realize?

Do you guys think a pk 3 necro 3 would be good to boost up the power of archer skels?

>>149128671
Eh I didn't want to fight Valhalla for guild arena either. Valhalla play super scummy and abuses the balance holes that were fixed on Ktos with gravity pole/raise spam and in an arena will resort to ice wall camping as a group despite the actual design of arenas/guild battles not allowing for that as a winning strategy.

Also they are just insufferable twats.

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Since we're all cute girls in here....

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/post-your-pics-female-only/314079

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>>149128671
>domination is domination. hotglue was first at pve and the best at pvp. people who are great are great at both.
Anon please, you're making me want to roll something meta instead of my current main.
I'm feeling that old hype again and I can't handle disappointment that will come with it.

>>149128452
>My long experience with RO has taught me that PvE players will always be the first ones to quit. They come, try out the content, and leave as soon as the next new shiny game or server comes up. It's ALWAYS the PvPers who stick around for years.

Because people who play PvE focused play for content and challenges, it's way easier to maintain a PvP environment interesting than a PvE environment.

I also have a long experience with RO since it was released iRO, pre-trans stuff.

And I can say for 100% that what made Ragnarok so popular wasn't only PVP, neither only PVE, was both systems working to a certain extend where it was enjoyably.

Of course you're free to have your own opinion, but at the moment that you try to imply that your opinion is a fact - and not only an opinion, shitters like me will try to argue about it to stop the misinfo.

>>149128452
>I like MMO PvP
You liking MMO PvP doesn't make it objectively good. Stop using stupid arguments like this.

>Trudging thought the garbage PvE content is part of the game. If you take an MMO and remove the PvE, what do you have left? Oh right, it just turns into a MOBA.
>he hates the pve and wants to just play pvp but he doesn't want to play a moba
You belong in a moba.

>>149126903
if you're a druid c1, you can still transform it and just not transform anything else, that way when you're c2, you can shapeshift into Spectra

>>149128671
>>149128897
Hotglue will forever be the best mmorpg guild experience 4chan has ever had. And it's not even a /vg/ guild

>>149129061
Man, I'm really being ran over by the nostalgia feels train tonight.
First /v/ having a thread about old cartoons and now this whole thing.
I can't handle it.

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>>149129061
Too bad certain faggots ruined it around Cosmic Break/end of Aika times because they had to act like retards and then moved to some off site group.

>And it's not even a /vg/ guild
I still hate /vg/ for taking away MMO discussion.

>>149128537
Anyone know the answer to this?

how strong can you get a mob via oracle's "change"?

like if I go into a high level zone and keep changing an already high level mob, how strong is it possible to get it?

>>149129193
All I remember from the end of aika was the NA vs international server drama and everyone, including other people in the NA server getting turned off from it. What a sad end aika had despite the RvR being some of the best shit I've ever experienced.

>>149129349
With max level change it has a level range of +/-10 each time you change it. I guess theoretically you could get it to 500+ but that's not easily testable since it's got a 50/50 chance of raising/lowering the level.

>>149129360
Aika's quests were fucking retarded too. All teh dialogue. All the dialogue the Prans asked you too.

>>149129349
Change works like this I think
>the monster that it is changed into has the stats of the monster it changes into
>the level difference just determines if you take extra damage or have a damage penalty against it
So you could summon an ET monster at level 160 that you could hurt but would oneshot you

>>149129457
MY

BODY

IS

A

TEMPLE

>>149128840
this is what we call excuses. they win while you lose that what matters. if you can't figure out how to win then that's your own problem. have you never read "playing to win"? http://www.sirlin.net/ptw/. linking this feels cheesy, but you're making like the most childish excuses for losing to them and you were even so subservient to them while it was happening, but now you're trashing them? i don't really like that. if you wanna lower your head then keep it down and don't backstab later.

the post was about how you aren't a leader and this kind of stuff just shows it. when you duck from people who are better at pvp then make lots of excuse about why they won simply proves it. you need to dominate at pvp and not avoid others if you're all about pvp.

>>149129193
>Cosmic break
I never understood the appeal. That one golf game was pretty cute and fun though.

>I still hate /vg/ for taking away MMO discussion.
Same, I remember aika leaking into even /a/ during the beta, partially due to the cleric underwear if I'm not mistaken.
I think Namae getting into XIV 1.0 at the time was partially to blame too.

>>149129360
>NA vs international server drama
I don't remember this.
I remember there was giant shitstorms over BRs, pinoys, and gpotato generally being shit though.
One of my favorite memories was breaking through into the high level areas that weren't released yet and exploring.
>Areas with mobs 20 levels higher and terrain that actually hurt you being on it.
What really killed it was how grindy it was when the level cap was raised though.
>Enough quests for like 3/4th of a level
>Then have to grind for like 2-3 levels to get a few more quests for another 3/4th of a level

>>149129457
The prans were the best, you take that back.

>>149129457
Oh yea but at least those quests were easy to blow through in parties. I remember we all bumrushed like NEETs the second the servers came online during the official launch. Fuck grown up prans though.

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the joke is that guilds like Valhalla, Xenization and FOrsaken have already quit ToS and by the time ET40 even comes out the games already dead

>>149129552
I'm not Lolipan. I'm in Futureproof and sparring with Valhalla as "practice" is silly because they're playing to win with a strategy that isn't going to be valid once pvp is implemented in the first place. PvP in the current game has no win condition and is just idiots slapping their dicks at each other. I don't have any interest in the current pvp that Loli is constantly pushing for us to do because it's a channel hopping retard fest and would rather focus on getting good at PvE so that we can have gear for when we actually do need to play to win, but Loli seems to have this bizarre idea that we can be good at PvP solely with budget gear and meh attributes.

>>149129610
The developers made some deal with some other publisher to open a global aika server, even when the official NA server was technically already an international version and they made the NA server restrict server access to NA players only. The NA publisher was buttmad and official stated they were also unhappy that the developers went ahead with the global server behind their backs but they allowed non NA players who were already playing NA to keep playing.

>One of my favorite memories was breaking through into the high level areas that weren't released yet and exploring.
I remember when we all got our bike mounts. ALL THESE FEELS.

>>149128496
I could go and get another 5 levels if I wanted, but I'd never ever ever ever grind beyond job 15. Not only is it a complete waste of job exp, you're fucking up your character's entire progression from this point forward. Time is better spent working on one of my 2 other characters.

>>149128647
They made good progress by removing that awful restriction on gear stats not working. It was a major step in the right direction. Now they need to allow party-queueing and remove that godawful "scale everyone to level 200", and it'll actually become a legit good feature.

>>149128671
>but if i'm talking with somebody from hotglue then i'll give it straight no bullshit
Not the case.

Indeed, during fights, I was among the most useless ones on our side. I did make a difference with Iron Hooks though, and I did make calls and give instructions. Sometimes I make bad calls, but that's part of learning a new game. I decided to roll the Thaum3 because it was something the guild lacked. Also, I don't just log-in for 200 runs and log out, else I wouldn't have gotten to 270 on my Rodelero.

The reason we didn't fight Vahalla the way they wanted is simple: We didn't want to. Not once did someone poke me about giving in to their whining and playing it by their rules. We wanted to PK them and fight by the GBL's rules, and that's what we did. In the end, turns out they weren't serious themselves, look at how many Valhallas are still running around regularly. The /tosg/ guilds are the only ones in Klaipeda that have regularly played a lot and are constantly active.

>>149129941
>also, the items from 20-40 et will be what wins gvg in the future. you're gonna be rolling around like a scrub in shit gear while they got +50 con armor with +8 aoe defense 1 hitting you cause they got 100% attributes while you're at 50% on gimmick characters

IMC has no idea how to do itemization on this game. Look at all the 220 white recipes that are actually better than 170 Orange Weapons. If the time comes when items become a major influence on ToS, we'll just have to cross that bridge when the time comes.

>>149128931
>You liking MMO PvP doesn't make it objectively good. Stop using stupid arguments like this.
Didn't imply that. I am just saying that it's good enough for me, and that I expect PvP focused players to stick around for much longer.

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>>149128682
>>149127506
>>149118770
if it were up to me, I would get the cheapest ones like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1DS0PB4915
but if you are into TACTIC COOL the you would ignore us and just buy one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP3N68264

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Dear god no

>>149130032
NOBODY CARES FAGLORD

>>149130087
But Monk is the best class if you want fanart.

>>149129856
>Forsaken
Isn't that a huge ERP guild though?

>>149129693
Even solo it was pretty fast.
I wish I had been able to nail down a class though, XIV has been the only game where I've really been able to do that and even then I dabbled a lot.

>>149129940
>The developers made some deal with some other publisher to open a global aika server, even when the official NA server was technically already an international version and they made the NA server restrict server access to NA players only.
Oh yeah, I remember that now.
There was that one major pinoy guild that was butthurt over that if I'm recalling. I remember hating that guild because of this one rifleman faggot who I think RMTed his way into good gear.

>I remember when we all got our bike mounts. ALL THESE FEELS.
Man, I had to look this up, I had forgotten that every class had a unique mount.
Also reminded me that those movespeed gems or whatever were huge because enough of them let you move as fast as a mount, even faster in some cases.

>>149130087
why is 3j such a slut?

>>149130289
She's literally just a groupie for the Fedimian Pit Fighters.

>>149130515
Loli can we let 3j in yet?

>>149130646
If Loli lets threejane in again then I am seriously leaving the guild and not coming back.

>>149130683
/Bullies/ when

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>>149130683
>again
wait, I leave the guild for less than a week and you let threejane in?

>>149130075
Laptop cooling pads are all cash grabes. Just put a book under it so it has air flows beneath.

>>149129941
>only pvp in the game
>we don't wanna pvp the last people on the server who want to pvp
>we're hardcore at pvp
this is called being full of shit. you don't even fucking wardec them while we're not at war with anybody. you're softer than tissue paper. who said you can't do 5v5 and regular worldwide skirmish? that's a lot of bullshit. i see other guilds doing to war all the time, but somehow futureproof the "pvp guild" can't manage it unless we got clover and cnl attached to our hip? really stupid.

all the "pvp" guilds are dead meanwhile the wb mafia is rolling pvp characters which aren't rodelero planning to shit stomp you and they'll do it too is my bet. you said other people don't play? that's wrong. even if crimson is dead there's groups of people who are way more active than you lolipan. lolipan you need to become best at something before you shit talk anybody like how you pretend pve is garbage. make a good pvp character who does something first. you played icbt and ktos but your results aren't anywhere near showing.

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>store page lists Team Battle League as a feature of the game

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>>149130750
We were wracked with grief. Please be considerate.

>>149127506
>I only care about PvP

Really? It's like you only level alts now more than anything, like you've mellowed out

FP isn't crazy enough now. If I were you, I would constantly declare war on any guild that wasn't neutral regardless of who they were, even Clover and CnL. I mean it's all good fun, isn't it? Ruining meetups and all that jazz is just an excuse.

An actual pvp focused guild should try and always be at war no matter what

>>149131173
>look it up
>thats the correct spelling
fuck off rance

>>149131265
Play the game.
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a
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When do you use Venom and when do you use Karacha

>>149131705
>Venom
When the target isn't plate. Most PVP enemies will be plate, by the way.

>Karacha
On your backstab set if you're a rogue, and when the target is plate. Karacha may or may not also be better on Medium, I don't remember.

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>"I-I'm not even mad"
>Makes it perfectly clear he's mad as fuck

Will I become this much of a fucktard if I make an alchemist?

>>149130918
>>149131216
Since our war with ReRoll ended, I have been wardec'ing every tower I see. Every single one is neutral, no exceptions. There's no downside to being neutral, it's only obvious guilds aren't riskying themselves.

I won't war other tosg guilds because I am not the Wind God himself. People have their own groups with people from the other /tosg/ guilds, and being at war means you can't party together.

>wb mafia is rolling pvp characters which aren't rodelero planning to shit stomp you and they'll do it too is my bet
Let them try, it wouldn't be fun otherwise.

>Really? It's like you only level alts now more than anything, like you've mellowed out
You can't be good with a single character, and right now is the perfect time to be making alts. Going for the low hanging fruit of "current meta" is an easy way of getting fucked. PvP isn't even out and the most broken classes have already been nerfed to oblivion(see Psychokino and Warlock).

>>149131880
>People have their own groups with people from the other /tosg/ guilds, and being at war means you can't party together.

So? Fuck em then, make an announcement that we're going to war with them and anyone who doesn't want their carebear groups to be ruined for a week can leave the guild.

They hardly belong if they can't put up with fighting some of their friends every now and then.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/alchemist-mafia/314084

This thread just keeps on giving

>>149132161
>So? Fuck em then, make an announcement that we're going to war with them and anyone who doesn't want their carebear groups to be ruined for a week can leave the guild.
Now this is just being silly. I'm not in a guild, but I'm guessing you join a guild with your whole team and not just a singular character, so you can't even play an alt during that time and ruining a group for a week just for some cheap, forced pvp is kinda silly.

>>149131880
>every tower i see
yeah you definitely spend a lot of time looking for them right. if you were a leader with any kind of actual inclination towards pvp you'd be looking for them. there's other guilds constantly going to war but you can't manage it? you're a casual player who likes to do some pvp. not a leader or pvp fiend.

>>149132164
>Attempt to harass a guy
>Go maximum butthurt when it goes public (which the guy is absolutely in the right to do)
>Guy goes "sure, I totally believe you" to literally all his damage control
>Faggot gets even more butthurt

>>149132161
>you should inconvenience everyone to appease me, the guy who is being a bitch for the sake of being a bitch

>>149131772
Not if you do it with the sole purpose of undercutting them and taking pleasure in their asspain.

>>149132164


>>149119149

>>149132391
It's like that when you're at war with anyone.

>>149132542
>let's have special rules for fellow /tosg/ guilds, some of the only guilds that are actually active anymore and two of the probably five or so guilds that are not neutral on the entire server.

>>149132391
Also, did you miss the part about leaving the guild beforehand? Kek it's not that big of a deal

>no shitters queuing up on dungeons

fook

>>149133206
That just further inconveniences people.

>>149133098
If you really want that, then go make a guild for people to join who just want to fight other /tosg/ people.

NEW "GOOD" RO PSERVER FUCKING WHEN IM SICK OF THIS GAME

How long does it take to spawn all monsters in awakening?

>>149133282
>If you really want that, then go make a guild for people to join who just want to fight other /tosg/ people.

I was just thinking about that. A sister guild to FP that would exist so FP would always have someone to go to war with, that way Loli won't have to deal with having nobody to fight. It would also actively hunt down guild towers of non-neutral guilds to declare on regardlesa of affiliation, and always be on the opposing side of FP for any additional GBLs.

The problem is that nobody would join such a guild because there aren't enough people for it to be feasible. Everyone is in a guild already.

Seriously though, who else ex-hotglue here wants to try to group up and work out a comp to do content of any form? If the datamining is true and we get 50 TP from the event, then I can get a character slot if need be to fill for anything.

There is a way to know which items you sold?

I was checking market and suddenly 900k appeared for me to retrieve and I have no fucking idea what it was.

>we are a "pvp" guild
>but we cater to carebears in our "pvp" guild
Is comfy the only real pvp guild in tosg?

>>149133808
Implying pvp is a thing. Arena soon, maybe, hopefully. Please.

>>149133786
>There is a way to know which items you sold?
Yea It's called remembering what you sold. If you forgot, then thats it.

>>149133776
I'm catching up on other things so I've only been logging in for instances and I'm also on telsiai.

>>149133786
reported for rmt

I don't get this board's obsession with wanting to go to war with CnL The fun of GvG is the tears of the other guild, going to war with eachother is pointless.

>>149133947
>Yea It's called remembering what you sold. If you forgot, then thats it.
Well, sometimes I can't even remember who I am because I have problems with memory.

Thanks for answering anyway.

>>149133954
D-Don't!

>>149133808
you want to go to war with everyone else in this general, whats the fucking point? We're not even going to fight eachother if we know its them, we'll just sit and ERP or something if we bump into eachother.

GvG is getting the other guild mad enough to start shouting us out and getting like 20+ people. We all have eachother on our friends list.

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>>149133901
This is what people who rolled the wrong class say.

>>149133786
900k sounds like an arde or something similar.

>>149133947
>telsiai
You're killing me.

>>149134074
>GvG is getting the other guild mad enough to start shouting us out and getting like 20+ people.
Fucking this.
People these days don't understand PvP. It's about the drama, not just fighting each other for stupid shit.

>>149131880
>I won't war other tosg guilds because I am not the Wind God himself. People have their own groups with people from the other /tosg/ guilds, and being at war means you can't party together

"We are the bullies" my ass

>>149133901
Then what's with all this tryhard pvp posts? People just pretending?

>>149133984
>>149134074
>all that edge
Watch out you're going to cut yourself.

>>149134037
Just make a word doc and list each item and price and whenever you retrieve the silver, cross it out.

>>149131772
>I could care less
>7 paragraphs

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>>149134175
>Trolling people into a butthurt, rage filled declaration of war is edgy now

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>>149131772
>>149134293
isn't it "I couldn't care less"

because technically you could always care less

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>>149134174
because its not bullying people if we're all friends, it's just another ERP session.

Bullying is getting people THIS mad, so mad that they actually cry in chat and then post in the forums about wanting neutrality.

We did GvG for things like pic related. Declaring war on other /tosg/ serves no purpose because nobody will care and nobody will pvp anyway.

Holy fucking christ, is there a way to turn off provoke 10?

>>149134130
If tos had the amazing netcode aika had I would've been playing on klaipedo. Aika was somehow fucking smooth in net lag despite playing from outside of NA as well as client lag. If there was any net lag at all I never felt it and the game ran incredibly smooth considering the thousands of players on screen during RvR.

>>149134074
>GvG is getting the other guild mad enough to start shouting us out and getting like 20+ people. We all have eachother on our friends list.

Fuck off, no it's not. It's about domination, winning, and the fact FP caters to shitters who can't deal with fighting their friends means they're fake as shit. They aren't an actual PvP guild, they just say they are for the social connotation yet they don't have the balls to move out of their damn comfort zone.

The sad truth is there is no guild on Klaipeda for PvPers who don't give a shit about who you are or what you say, there's no guild for people who just want to kill you and everybody else just because it's fun. For some people PvP is why they play MMOs, and without an actual PvP guild spicing things up and making things fun then this dead game will only continue to rot.

>>149134487
I never had any problems playingAura Kingdom even living 12h away from the server.

How they did fucked up so badly with ToS? ;_;

>>149134496
do you not know what fucking guild neutrality is?

Xenization and [NoblesseOblige] were real PvP guilds with pvp spreadsheets :^) that declared war on literally every single guild in Klaipedia including ours. The second guild neutrality set in, they quit because there was no one to PvP against.

The only people left that will PvP are us, some people we can't even wardec because of CD, and the rest of /tosg/. And your idea of dominating and winning is to pick on fucking Lalacow.

>>149134473
press the green thingy beside it

>>149134496
>The sad truth is there is no guild on Klaipeda for PvPers who don't give a shit about who you are or what you say
Roll one and gather this amount of people on tosg that wants to pvp?

I mean, seriously. If there is people wanting to pvp, and the actual pvp guilds are shit, why not just gather those people who wants to pvp and make a guild just for that?

I enjoy pve and I joined a guild that focus on that, I think people who enjoy pvp would join a guild that is exclusively for pvp.

>>149134487
Man seriously, Aika was coding like a fucking dream.
I think I was still on my shitty laptop at the time and I barely had any lag during those enormous PvP battles at that fucking desert chokepoint.
Probably helped that every character model was the same aside from hair, but still.
And then you get shit like Tera, where even on absolute minimum settings you were floating around 10-15 FPS in towns.

>>149134496
>It's about domination, winning
Only made better as being a result of a war sparked by upsetting some easily butthurt faggot into declaring on your guild and then stomping them.
And then, if you happen to lose, play the entire thing off completely casual and watch as they pretend they're awesome and we're upset over being out zerged.
People like you wouldn't have survived in the old times.

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remember the good times of pre-neutrality?

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For whatever reason for the past 2 weeks whenever someone uses healing square, I can't see them. What the fuck causes this?

>>149134912
Hacks

>>149134852
>PvP fags can't accept the fact that some people don't like PvP and want to force them in their shit minigame

An this is why PvP fags are cancer.
But I do agree that Neutrality kills pvp in this game.

They should had put an option to choose what your guilds is for in the moment of creation or something and that couldn't be changed, so pvpfags could enjoy themselves without neutrality blunder, and casual fags would ERP in peace.

Wait a minute
Why can'y I pick up the quest for the second day scavenger hunt

Why does a level 15 charged Cartar stroke deal more damage to level 8 cyclone?

>>149135075
Neutrality kills diversity of builds for this game.

Most people stop giving a fuck about rolling PvP builds anymore.

>>149135118
Event is bugged
It doesn't reset for everyone
Seems like it ended for you :^)

>>149135118
Only open 6am-9am server time

>>149135203
Thank god fuck sword3 shitters

>>149135168
because by the time you charge a level 15 cartar stroke your cyclone will have already done all its damage and you could've done something else like jerk off

>>149135249
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/scavenger-hunt-bug/314177

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>>149135257
>guild neutrality was months ago
>still see Sword C2 Hoplites and Sword C2 Barbs
fucking WHY

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I mean lets be honest here, it would've been more surprising if the event didn't bug out

>>149134787
>People like you wouldn't have survived in the old times.

What I'm saying right now is a plea for the old times. I come from an old PvP focused MMO where I would PvP with my guild for hours on end every day for years.

Sure, the drama and the hatred and all that crap is fun but over the years as people quit and new people come you start to realize that it's not about that, validation isn't needed, the real fun comes from the joy of the kill. Knowing that thousands of players have faced that death screen at your hands, the simple fact that you're better than them in their mind at that moment is enough.

Eventually my guild became the top PvP guild, we were immortalized in our servers community and we're still mentioned even today when we haven't played in three years.

When you never stop killing, regardless of who's who, to the point where your kills just become numbers then that's when you're recognized. That's when the community knows you're the best, they don't have to shit talk because they've already given up. Submission from everybody else, that's when you've won. Drama and hatred are transient, but the fun and the excitement of simply killing other players transforms into this awesome nostalgia.