/acg/ Armored Core General: 0 AP regulation

>>149006181
Thanks so much anon with reply to >>148984432, I'll change the main unit when I can with your suggestions.
I curious on how sniper builds could work in game. Anyone else got additional tips?
>>149006121
Sniper and assault. What's wrong with two regular rifles by what you assumed? Not aware with meta.

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Bump

Bump.

Sorry for falling asleep and not bumping last thread.

Good start guys, 5 bumps out of 6 posts. Never change acg.

>>149052165
I'm just waiting for a man to answer more of my questions.
Heck I'm the first two bumps.

Jesus.

>>149052628
I'd love to help but my FA builds are all crap and I have given up on multiplayer for it outside of split screen because building to have to accommodate dodgy net code just isn't fun.

I miss this series

>>149059034
Enjoy your dark souls

>tfw can't never get good with this game

>>149062356
Welcome to the club.

>>149062356
>everyone beats you in a matchup

>>149062356
I understand your pain.

>>149056461
Amen

FA is still fun to play, but you're kidding yourself if you ever took online seriously with it.

The only decent multiplayer game From has ever made was Verdict Day. Or maybe Chromehounds, I didn't play that one.

Verdict day still has shitty netcode but at least you only notice it when you have high ping and use high velocity rounds. It doesn't make or break the match unless someone's lagging hard.

Even Dark Souls 2 is a joke. The whole meta is based around counter modifiers and wide area attacks because everyone has to fight 20-50 frames ahead of what's actually happening.

So in both games the ONLY way to hit someone is to either play some heavy mind games and predict their move way in advance, or to trade. Which is why pretty much every PvP build in DS2 relies on counter damage, magic spam, or spin2win.

>>149066140
>not becoming a newtype
Well that's down heartening.

>power focused laser cannons destroy your energy less quickly than rapid focused laser cannons
I never would have figured that if I weren't running the math on it. How odd.
>>149066140
V free battles > Verdict Day on the whole

Is there an arena in V/VD?
From synopsis, there doesn't seem to be much focused ravens/pilots.

>>149074104
Nope, you just fight them in missions. Bit of a shame really, they lost that and all split screen features.

>>149078838
Fucking online multiplayer is a mistake.
VI gotta fix it.

Are there any favourite Pilots outside of chief people like?

>>149080219
By fix, I mean similar SP from older titles.

>>149072172
How come

>>149080219
>VI gottat fix it

But FROM knows what are they doing right now with the serie?

>>149082905
I guess but still

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>>149066140
>just using whatever in SNFA because fun
>japscrub joins
>typical lahire mach speed missile build
>tells us we're bad when we kick him
USING META CANCER DOES NOT EQUATE TO BEING GOOD

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>Last thread apparently hit limit bump
>I post in last thread
>Dies

A-am I the Shinigami of threads, bakas?

>>149086901
You've just cursed us again.

>>149086243
>getting bootyblasted over superior craftsmanship
Good goi-I mean Lynx, maybe you should invest in Omer?

>>149086243
>tells us we're bad when we kick him

Wait, really.

Damn, i missed this.

>>149090069
It's just happened in the past, not this last SNFA

>>149090553
Oh.

So, what exactly did the jap say?

>>149090678
They messaged Xez once, and on another occasion an anon that doesn't play/post here anymore. Just typical stuff like "lol you can't beat me. leave loser", it's extremely infuriating when it happens

>>149091092
This is why you don't challenge Nippon.

>>149091092
>an anon that doesn't play/post here anymore

I take it this dude was always an asshole?

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>>149087198

Bump,

>>149086243
Tell me about this build.

Anyone know a complete OST collection including covers?

>>149091624
kek, why would you assume that? To be fair, the last time he played with us he got super peeved that he couldn't join our lobby because of network issues and basically ragequit. Shame, he made really unique stuff that actually worked quite well.

>>149094805
You use a Lahire frame, you use either lahire or rayleonard thrusters, you use the sobrero core, and you use the Big Sioux missile launcher and propel missiles at speed previously unknown to man and do massive damage.

>>149100015
Why didn't I think if this before?
Thanks anon. Gonna sell my souls to the devil

>>149100285
I don't like you anymore

>>149100672
No one does.
Why does the Sobrero core look so wierd?

>>149101164
Oh, when I said core I meant generator. Honestly though the core might be able to give you more speed.

You guys ever visit a buffet? Pretty nice place when you hang out with friends. Friend pulls out his phone to watch guys faceplant on youtube, other friend is wandering the parking lot playing Pokemon go (and he's about 5 seconds away from traffic, so someone out of us has to babysit the guy), while my 3DS bud is playing Kid Icarus: Uprising, and I'm just relaxing with Armored Core Silent Line portable. Trying not to use blatantly overpowered weapons, and it's a fun game when you don't use machine guns.

>>149102334
>buffet
>outside
>friends
Sounds gay man, no offence.

>>149102334
>goes to a buffet with friends
>all of them stare at their devices of choice
>he does the same

>>149082751
Dangit, man. You need to be specific.
Someone on Legacy figured out the formula for calculating how your energy drains while charging a weapon and what kind of energy output you would need to neutralize it.
You take the energy consumption during use, divide by the maximum charge time, and then multiply by 60.
Now, speccing for rapid does a few things to laser weapons. Most notably, it cuts the max charge time (so you can charge the weapon faster) and it decreases the energy during use (to make it cost less energy to charge). So, what appears to be going on is that the charge time is decreasing faster than the energy consumption rate. It's true that you need less energy to reach full charge and that it happens faster with rapid, but thanks to that it jacks up the magic output number needed to neutralize the charge, thus making the charge empty your capacity faster.
85% of VD's maps are veritable garbage. Most of the free battle maps in VD fall within this range of garbage. They're lacking in the cover and jumpability that was emblematic of V.
Actually, here's a good way to think about it.
VD's meta is defined by super heavy quads with heavy weapons that gain as much altitude as possible and then float and shoot as much as possible and super light LRJs that abuse Murakumos.
V's meta revolved around LRJs with sniper rifles which, despite having two subcomputers, couldn't lock on fast enough to hit that other fag in his LRJ, meaning you have to dedicate a lot of time to learning when you can make a shot where you don't truly have a lock. Neither of you have time for a true lock because everybody is jumping every which way in a labyrinth of buildings (in which you die if you get lost) which are so tall that they provide the top cover needed to stop float quads from eating everything. It involves a lot more skill.

>>149074104
Sort of but not really. There are regular side missions which are missions. Then you have AC battle missions where it's just a 1v1 (sometimes 2v1) AC fight. So it functions mostly like arena battles but not really. The ACs you fight in these missions also don't show up in the main story at all.

>>149110849
Pretty sure the meta was just less developed in V. I also don't remember much about LRJ snipers being broken or even good in team matches, only in singles. I agree that a lot of maps in VD are dumb but the reasons for that are far more varied than just that. For one, leg types are just straight up unbalanced.

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>>149096254
There's a nyaa torrent in the pastebin. That should be what you're looking for.
>>149102334
Yes, I'm familiar with buffets. We typically eat and leave our phones in our pockets unless we need them to bring up something relevant.
>>149100015
Been there done that. It's not as effective as you want it to be.

Any good webms of this series?

>>149100015
and keep QB in the sides of the arena when running of the incoming gangbang.

>>149115241
You just can't utilize it well because you're not a japscrub

>>149105284

It was either that, or we stay home and watch our fat friend play World of Warcraft. The former option gets us some sunshine at least.

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>>149119707
Can you talk about anything? I suppose that being friends means you guys share a topic that appeals to all of you.

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I mentioned this to Jeck but I might as well share the story.
>Urist, a merc, my UNAC and I get into a fight
>Urist immediately decides he wants to laser cannon tank
>other team readies up within a second
>I know two non-teammates on my friends list are playing right now
>hmmmmmm
>I bet it's that guy who loves his quad UNACs way too much
>bring a mid with Tansies and give it plasma missiles
>it was exactly who I thought it was
>four quads
>I go around some boats, find the guy, and lay into him
>he melts
>meanwhile Urist knocks the UNACs for half their AP per volley
>UNACs quickly melt from the rest of us
>rekt
>get another merc
>run into him again
>I swap to HEAT cannon tank, Urist to piler
>two quads and two tanks
>all the good calls happening today
>the new merc blades Urist by accident early on
>we still murder the UNACs and the guy because HEAT cannons are awesome and the new merc lands some good melee hits
>>149117501
You know it.
>>149113151
They both had plenty of time to develop. Heck, V's first meta was figured out in a couple weeks. Same for VD, actually.
In any case, snipers weren't really broken, they were just the meta. They were useful in team fights because you could have everybody unload on some guy for a bit and if he manages to wiggle out with just a bit of AP you could send your LRJ sniper to catch up to him and finish him while the rest of the team dogs on some other guy. That said, they were much less prevalent in conquest and much more so in free battle, and that's what matters most because conquest was a horrid broken mess.

>>149115241
>no front weapons
Truly a masterpiece

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>>149099860
>To be fair, the last time he played with us he got super peeved that he couldn't join our lobby because of network issues and basically ragequit.

This is not true, i've been dealing with that for forever i just keep forgetting about SNFA and have been meaning to play in one. Also, Dota 2 International is almost about to start so i've basically been enthralled in that recently. I also got tired of bumping

Girlgames1

>>149139418
What's that

>>149140773
I just googled it:
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How powerful is a NEXT compared to any Warhammer machine.

>>149141305
The content anon.

>>149110849
>>149113151

This.

V's "Free battle" was better becauase there was simply more people playing it, with a less developed meta. You didn't have to try very hard to win or feel like you were doing well because there was always such a variety of people using fun/gimmicky builds.

VD's meta has nothing to do with sawa quads or kumorabis, those are gimmick builds. It is based around muzzle velocity, counter building, glide boost, and map choice. VD added a ton of weapons that were critical to "filling out" the metagame by giving players more equivalent options on the 3 damage types, so now you could actually employ multiple strategies in a single AC instead of making it rely entirely on one or two gimmicks.

>>149110849
Though, totally agreed, V's maps were better. But that's about the only thing better in V.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVteKLcNi3g
Anyone got radio version of dirty worker?

Or where does this play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JNRMSGdL5U

>>149128617
Laser cannon tank is what I was using last time I was with Urist.

That guy's quads had nothing for TE, made sense to me. That and kicking them with a tank anyway, his don't have any kick function..

>>149115241
Fucking christ I can never get over how goddamn ugly Lahire is. I think it might be, legitimately, the most ugly AC in the ENTIRE franchise, and definitely the most ugly prominent frame.

Even sobrero, weird as it is, has that sort of 'cheap bi-plane' look to it. Lahire just looks like Insane Clown Posse: The AC.

Rayleonard did nothing wrong.

>>149148634
>Hating Lahire
Only bad thing is it's head, the rest is fine.
Well the Core.

>>149149536
Legs and Core are awful
Arms are sort of acceptable, maybe if you use Aaliyah core
Head is good.

seriously, try to think of another AC that looks more grotesque as Lahire.

>>149149819
Core is fine, legs sure, but Soldner is worse.

>>149135798
>I also got tired of bumping
We are bleeding to death.

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>>149150064
You're fucking nuts. At least Soldner looks like a mech, instead of an orgy of weaboo katanas and ninja stars, with the stance of a 80s cowboy.

Solder is 'meh' but Lahire is offensively ugly.

Lahire defenders are just collared dogs and tryhards who have to justify using the ugliest fucking gimmick mechs just because they can't win by using anything solid and useful.

>burning with hatred for Lahire

>>149142618
A next probably can destroy titans withouth much problem, to fast to be hit, and with heavy weapons can probably make damage. Bladers will just go straigh for the cockpit.

>>149143057
Didnt someone post this a radio edit like 2 threads ago?

>>149148634
For the only thing that ruins Lahire is are the legs, that weird pose is terrible, the core isnt that bad when put with the arms, If I use a lahire I change the leg for X-SOBRERO and fix it for me.

>Rayleonard did nothing wrong
Mah nigga.

>>149151448
That core Is piss man, the front looks almost imbalanced. The head is a fuckin cone. Why use it when GA or Torus are better builds?
>>149151868
>tried to challenge GA
>Tried to destroy Anatolia
>bunch of bladefags and filthy Commies
>defunct

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>>149151868
>Core isn't bad
>Pictured: Typical Lahire Player

>>149157775
I mean in it in the aesthetic of the frame, outside of the frame the core itself is ugly and hardly looks good with something else, same with the second gen Algebra core, that shit is hard to mae it look good.

But lahire legs are terrible even on his frame.

>>149143057
Found it.
https://my.mixtape.moe/skyamu.mp3
>>149142740
I also think the lessened energy output is a plus.
And depending on who you ask, the lack of shields is a big plus.
>>149141305
You missed the train by about a year.
I never really understood what got people so freaked out about them. They're not very extreme, like medium salsa.

>>149158015
>not running the sharpest reverse legs and that flat, plate headed head.
Nah.

The legs are fiiiine.

I'll find a way to make them work.

>Nexus ost>Last Raven ost
Can't dispute

>>149128617

Sounds pretty crazy.

Hold the fuck on, don't tell me For Answer has manual fucking saving? As in, there's no autosave?

>>149165739
Let me guess, you progressed through the game, turned off your console without saving therefore losing progress?

Yeah, gotta save manually, no auto save.

>>149165739
>Not saving manually before turning off game even if there is autosave
It's like you want to lose progress.

>>149165916
>>149166035
I feel like a fucking retard right now. Shit, I am a retard apparently.
Good thing I didn't get THAT far in the game yet.

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>>149165739

>>149170450
A good wake up call for a pandered piece of shit who's expecting a game to hold his hand in every thing.

That being said, I did play some Wip3out just now and that one, despite being a PS1 game, has autosaving.

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>>149170450
>goblin slayer

>>149165739

>>149171265
I hope the manga isnt dropped halfway like many mangas based on LN.

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>have huge system fuckup at work yesterday
>have to make up for the time we lost so I'm the only one still in the building besides the cleaning people
Fuck

Have this shitscribble /acg/ for it represents the state of my soul, dead underneath the corporate machine
[pretentious gibberish]

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>>149165739

>someone actually forgot to save their progress and lost hours of it

>>149171265
what the hell is going on?

Nice thread.

Where is the 9 remix for 4/4A

>come online
>OldManAhab, last online: Ten minutes ago
I- it's not like I wanted to play Verdict Day or anything

>>149186130
Anything specific? I could play a bit if you're okay with a total newbie/sniper cannon whore.

>>149186130
Then you should have signed on before I went back to work. Sandstorm and I got two fights and two bosses.

>>149172405
Aren't light novels and manga the same thing?

>>149190337
One is a book, other one is a comic.

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>>149190668
of course

Why is evangel a dick?

>>149193497
He's just a beta who wants to be a dominant

>>149165739
>>149165916
>>149166035
>>149166241
>>149170635

V/VD are the only games in the entire franchise with autosave. And if it wasn't for the multiplayer campaign, I doubt they would have it anyway.

I think it's that JP fans preferred manual save because they could save to multiple locations and have different progress files for story. V/VD doesn't have a progression campaign once you beat story mode anymore (it's more like AC2:AA, in that sense) so there's no point in manual save.

>>149193497
because Jack senpai doesnt notice him.

>>149195223
Man, makes me really appreciate that sleep function of my xbone. I like turning the thing on and continue right where I left the game.

>>149195223

That's a good point. I think manual and auto-save can have a place in Armored Core, but it just needs to fit. You know?

>>149195223
>not just having it toggle

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hey

>>149199127
It's funny how this particular AC is actual horrible, but OP intensify makes it actually slightly dangerous. Who thought giving Thermidore vertical missiles in-doors would be a good idea?

>>149200260
I think that when FROM desing the enemies AC they dont take in consideration the places where they appear in the game.

>>149195223
Are there deductions in AC V? I've only played up to Silent Line, so having an autosave would be almost suicidal in this kind of game.

IIRC, the only game from that era that didn't deduct costs when you died/quit was AC2:AA, because it had a fuckton of missions.

>>149200482
Particularly hilarious when you fight any flying AI in the parking lot (AC MOA/AC3), or that tank AC you fight on a blast furnace in AC3.

>>149201407
Or Raiden on FA, you dont even hate to kill him, just shoot hima little and he will fall, and because its a tank it cant follow you.

>>149202078
>not ignoring him completely and he gets blown up
>>149200260
He's not hard really. Within the order match he's easy

>super monkey likes daddy

>>149202572
>not ignoring him completely and he gets blown up

But he is blocking the entrance to the next wagon you have to make him fall to advance.

>>149189019
I was at work too

>>149188768
Fuck, I missed your post. Next time

>>149203005
Really? I always just zoom past him.

>>149202572
Never said he was anywhere close to hard anon

>>149203005
>you have to make him fall to advance
nope

>R&C 1-Gladiator ost while playing AC
It works. The bleep and bloops work with the game.
Why the hell is Nexus's intro music so good?
>>149203782
I know, but the Op-intensify bit.
If only he was competent as well.

>>149204936
>AC4
>OP-INTENSIFY
What are you talking about

>>149206357
The one that was in the comment talking about Thermidir or have I lost the plot

>>149204936
Bump

>>149202078

Raiden had a good concept, forcing you to fight him in a confined space in that giant train, but From probably didn't realize that he'll follow you out.

>>149215785
>he fought him

>>149215864

Yeah, because I'm not a cheesing charley. Go spam sawas some more, cherry boy.

We wont survive the night.

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Expect me to be at SNFA this weekend.

>>149221479
I hope you dont become a second penny with hollow promises

>>149142678
Lol? What do you think a "gimmick build" is?

>>149201232
Yeah, there are deductions, but you get infinite retries. Thankfully though, in AC4 and on you get so much money from missions it doesn't matter.

By the time you reach a mission that would get you to huge negative rewards for failing, you're far enough in the game that it really doesn't matter. You have to actively TRY to bankrupt yourself in these games.

>>149223501
Gimmick builds are min-max ACs that focus on just one strategy and relentlessly practice it, designed specifically to cheese players who haven't seen them before or to replace actual knowledge of the game with meme-tastic lolworthy strategies

Dual piles, kumorabis,

Sawa quads are a bit in the middle, in the hands of a newbie they're a gimmick build, but they can be legitimate if used right. Too easy to take down though.

None of those builds are in the 'meta' of ACVD. Meta builds are built to counter what is popular or common. Best example is probably the ongoing back and forth use of 3BR or ACs with 2060+ CE defense. When everyone starts using 3BR, the meta starts stacking CE defense to block it, when everyone starts stacking CE defense, the meta is to stop using 3BR and start using Tansy/pulse guns, when everyone starts using that, the meta is to stack KE/TE defense and the cycle repeats.

>>149225449
Another example of ACVD's meta: KE shields. The more popular snipers get, the more other players stack KE shields. Sometimes, against some players, you NEED a KE shield to win because they snipe so much that without shutting down their sniper strategy you have to fight an uphill battle all match.

Basically:

Does it rely on predicting the opponent's AC loadout?
>Yes: Meta
>No: Not Meta

>>149225897
>Yes: Meta
>No: Not Meta

Anyone who uses a kumorabi in every CQ match is not "meta". But if you know another player ALWAYS uses tanks on this map, then switching to a kumorabi to counter that is meta.

Proper metagame is about carving a chasm of advantage between you and your opponent by anticipating their part choices. This is why players who are really "skilled" and have played for years using the same builds in V get rekt in VD by players who are constantly adapting to them.

>>149226257

That's a good point.

>>149225449
Sawarabi kumo builds are a gimmick build?
I really disagree, there's a good reason why they're so common on JP. If you know what you are doing, you can pretty much kill every other AC, even other Sawarabi users with it.
I can't remember the last time I ever saw anybody use Tansies.

>>149236197
>you can pretty much kill every other AC

No. Any player with half a brain can avoid kumos if they pay attention. They're a gimmick because they rely purely on other players being distracted so you can rush in, then run away. In a straight up fight they lose against almost every non-tank build.

Kumos have a low barrier of entry compared to their style points for CQ, so they don't require lots of research or intimate knowledge of the game to score big hits with.

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>pilot suits are some jumpsuit in science fiction
Every time, even with this series.

>>149245348
Really hate jumpsuits, can't they come up with something else?

>>149209232
There is no OP-INTENSIFY in 4/FA

How big are the mechs in FA supposed to be, as the XMB splash screen claims they're 1000 metres tall. Wouldn't that make Arms Forts like fucking atmosphere reaching giants?
If they were that huge too, piling like 7 of them would allow you to punch a fucking cradle.

>>149248051
They're 15m high, three times the height of a normal or ACV mech, which is about 5m tall. AC1-3 ACs are between 5-7m tall, but scale is all wonky in those games since vehicles end up vastly different sizes mission to mission.

I think the splash is just fucking bad translating by ubisoft. The game means that ARMS FORTS are 1000m tall, which is about right for something like Answerer. Motherwill and Great Wall are both 1000m+ long/across.

>>149248251
Yeah, kinda wondered about that too, maybe they just punched in some extra zeroes by accident?

>>149115241
Lahire, Judith or Holofernes?

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>>149149819
>>149148634
>trashtalking Lahire

Look man, I don't know how much Albrecht Drais or Algebra paid you to shill your ugly ass Soldners.

>>149165739
jesus man, hope you saved after beating WG

>>149245348
Tight suits are one of the future techs for space EVA suit, what's wrong with it?

>>149193497
2dominant4u

>>149221092
Never fails to make me laugh

>AF Stigro
First time got rekt totally by that fuck
Second time I managed to land on top of it, wondering if I could ride the thing. Two hits from a blade and it went down.

Are all AFs a giant joke or what? Weren't they supposed to be the weapon to surpass Armored Cores?

So apparently I fucked up somewhere during the game as I wanted to get White Glints parts, but now I had to fight him which only nets me the guns.

Is there some specific missions I have to play to get the line ark defense mission for the AC parts?

>>149256159
Second run through, you have to beat defend megalis

>>149254386
yes they are a gigant joke, specially since you can blade them, FROM did a mistake there, they also had to ramp their accuarecy and the give them more weapons to use aside from some big guns that are useless once you get close.

>>149259320
Yeah, I noticed that they all, despite looking big and intimidating, come down after a few blade hits, not being much stronger than a basic AC, just a bigger target.

On the other hand, I am getting absolutely wrecked by Red Rum and Starka, always Red Rum manages to charge through from some bullshit hole and ram a slug or five up my ass before I even realized what the fuck is going on.
Starka is quite easy though.

>>149259510

If you are doing solo, then focus red rum first, some grenades will work, just dont let starka get close.

If doing it with wingman, weird, she usually focus the wingman (at least for me) and I have to deal with starka.

>>149260772
Yeah, had to give up and go with a wingman, who did fuck all aside for occupying Red Rums attention, which was fine enough for me, but I am kinda peeved about paying 45% for a tank that did nothing. Could have gone with the cheapest one too and get the same results.

Help on destroy anti satellite batteries?

Can't kill Neo Nidius fast before I get killed or my wingman.
>>149261592
Nah celebrity ash dies like a bitch. Always went with the GA.

When I kill Starka, it ends with red rum focusing on player.

So like, what am I supposed to do with that Land Crab AF with them Sol Dios cannons? Read up about some strategy of over boosting my way towards it and smash it before the orbs detach, but I never seem to be able to make it in time. My blades ain't strong enough nor even the fastest AC I can put together fast enough.

Those orbs are a bitch to fight because hitting them with anything short of missiles is a fucking gag.

>>149262919
White glint missiles.(Salines). Just keep dodging and firing.

Once that's done, like the Richmond crabs, use blade to kill.
No wingman, they waste money if you're aiming for good score

>>149263251
Yeah, had to go with my default build. Didn't get the results I wanted, left with just 3k AP and over half of the reward spent on just repairs.

>>149254386

Why did From not do some more playtesting with Arms Forts? I hate how the game gets so easy once you learn how to beat them. -This- is the scourge that was supposed to put an end to Nexts.

>>149262745
If going with a wingman, go with Roadie, and have something that hits hard, grenades again, for Neo Nidus, just wait for him to use the assault cannon (if you get hit or you have bad luck or suck at quickboosting) and then hit him hard, the lack of PA makes him higly vulnerable.

>4 handguns
AYO

So apparently AS missiles in FA don't really need a lock o to track targets, seems like they're self acquiring missiles.

>>149270385
Thats their gimmick. I always run the shoulder AS missiles so I can just tap the fire button every now and then in the middle of high speed combat and still land a hit.

>you created a fuckin spitfire-esque mech with aurora and sobrero
>it can become a bi plane with white glints torso
Kek.
Should I go missiles for more macross, or more authentic with chain guns?

>>149270689
AS or spread?

>Went cex and saw some shitty looking PS2 mech games for 25p a pop.
>Bought them all
I have no idea why I do this to myself.

>>149270385
Whaddya think AS stands for m8

You're still alive, right Urist?
>>149281641
American Standard, clearly.

>>149280270
Where do you live?

Where's the shop?

>>149282792
Yeah I am, work just ate me.
Almost home from a 12h shift

>>149282792
In fact you replied to me.

>>149270385

Are they good though? I use them on one of my main builds.

>>149281641
I actually have no idea what AS, MCLwhateverthefuck or whatever the acronyms stand for.

Auto Seeking?

>>149291720
Well, they're nice as you can just spam them and they're pretty much guaranteed to lock on to something, basically fire and forget missiles. They're average as missiles, nothing too fancy or too bad, pretty average all around.

>>149283790
Lincoln.
In Lincoln.

>>149295848
What games.

Sounds distant.
>look up PS3 AC games
>most are in places I have no inkling of

>>149292664

I see. I guess that's not a bad tradeoff. Still, even good missiles are easily avoided, so I wonder if AS are worth the tradeoff.

In the AC4 CGI opening, what was that energy coming from Supplice during his edgy pose? What did he even do to cause such an edgy effect?

It's a bad ass btw.

>>149301676
Primal Armour

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I tested the tread pilebunkers on rails thing, turns out that they do come forward when kicking. Coincidentally all the mobile treads (which have like 10k more kick damage than the defense ones) have those piles on the sides, except for Foolish/Funeral.
As you can see in the pic, which if you couldn't tell is my tank from above, the piles will sometimes get stuck in the front position. Not sure how exactly to replicate it, but it happens pretty often.
I wonder if hitting with them does extra damage

>>149292664
AS is auto-sighting or auto-seeking.

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LETS KICK SOME ASS

>>149302921
How did he manage to cause the effect though?

I thought for such a thing to happen you needed to get hit by something.

>>149298610
Gungriffon Blaze
Robot Warlords
Robotech Battlecry

I'm pretty sure Robot Warlords is a bad srpg in the vein of front mission

Either way walked in with about 20 quid and came out with like 40 games and some change, yeah I could just soft hack the ps2 or something but I like owning stuff even if it is shit and I'll leave it somewhere to gather dust for years after I've touched it for 5 minutes.

Also picked up some older ps1 games from a retro gaming shop nearby. Brahma Force being the only mech one.

/Blog

>>149309752
Probably was activating the PA? if you look closely, when you have lost most of you AP, either you use the AA or simple depleted by fighting, when is recharging there is a moment were it appears on you.

>>149316046
But he wasn't fighting nor was he low on AP. He was just sitting in the dark posing like an edgelord.

>>149317154
>Activating PA

There is some mission on 4 on hard that forces to not use your PA because you in a area close to where people live, specially the ones concerning Anatolias, if you drop your AP to low, the PA will activate to help, and the visual effect is still visible when charging.

Also is just the intro it was there to look badass.

>>149317154
PA has to be activated at some point, and that could have just been when he did in a pre-battle activation sequence or something.

I'm not sure why you want any answer beyond that it looks cool though, which is all the opening movies are about.

Is there any sunday night FA for xbox or am I doomed to just replaying the campaigns of 4 through VD and hoping that someone has a lobby up in AC4 like the old days?

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>>149321973
You and me are probably the only people here who even have the game on 360, so no.

I'm shit at 4/FA but I'd be up for a few rounds maybe. I need to make some builds for 1.40 though, I don't bother making any competitive ACs since there's no point and 1.20 is funnest for singleplayer.

I'm down for some VD too.

>>149323145
I've forgotten what regulations even do at this point. I just use the default settings but I thought that 1.40 gave unlimited energy right? But yeah I'll play 4, FA, and VD tomorrow and maybe sunday after work. I really miss playing 4 and using grenade launchers in the factory with 5 person ffa.

>>149323589
1.15 is the infinite energy one iirc.

All the regulations are just balance patches, and 1.4 is the most balanced iteration of the game.

>>149323589
1.15 is the meme reg with infinite energy. 1.20 is FAST. 1.40 is the most up to date version that everyone plays but I don't like it because it feels slow.

I don't actually know any of the meta so I don't know the actual differences between the regs.

>>149323589
1.00 = dual salines gg close
1.10 = haha get fukt missile nerds
1.15 = infinite energy
1.20 = SANIC SPEED, TIME FOR LANCING
1.30 = whoa I don't like speed let's go slow
1.40 = alright fine it's a little faster again

>>149324675
and nothing to fix the latency.

Which NEXT can do the best Slam dunks?

>>149328643
Killdozer

>>149328643
Definitely Killdozer

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>playing a new save file on FA with the Rayleonard starter mech
This feels so right. Can't believe I didn't do this on my first playthrough.

>>149331390
enjoy the energy eating machine

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Wait did a new armored core game come out? Why is there suddenly a general? I always liked the ones I played, but I haven't played on since 4.

>>149333187
There has always been a general.

>>149333441
Oh really? I thought that you guys were part of /gerg/ because they have armored core stuff in the pastebin. Is there a modern title you guys play or is it just playing older ones?

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>>149333538
Verdict Day is the "newest" one but it's several years old now.

/gerg/ is supposedly an all round mecha general, but in reality it's just Mechwarrior Online general which is why we never went over there.

>>149333823
Is there a mmo version of it or something? What do you guys play in here? I wouldn't mind a somewhat grindy AC with a online lobby system or something.

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>>149333938
Verdict Day doesn't have an MMO format but it's multiplayer PVP focused in the way it's structured. It's similar to Chromehounds if you're familiar with that.

>>149335895
It's console only isn't it?

>>149335957
As Armored Core only ever has been, yeah.

>>149335957
All AC games are

Except the phone ones and handheld ones

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>>149331941
It's so much fun purely just for the aesthetics. I might go full casual and do a 1.15 playthrough just for maximum Aaliyah viability. I already beat the game legit anyway.

I wish AC4 had a 1.15 style regulation, it would make the game so much more fun.

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*quickboosts directly in front of your attack*

Okay, how do I deal with Split Moon on that Defend Arteria Cranium mission? Tried to lure the fucker in the narrow corridor and SALINESGGWP but that plan didn't work quite as I planned. I got rushed and a blade lodged really deep up my ass.

>>149347197
Never mind, managed to cheese the whole fight by equipping pile drivers, luring the fucker in the corridor and smashing his face in. Took a few tries but managed to finally get him.

>>149333538
/Gerg/ just copied all the info from our OP.
It even all says acg on it.

>>149348670
It was posted there to be put there.

>>149347626
>S rank never ever
I once went matador with a Gatling gun when all by missiles went.
>C

You can also use dual arsenic, that obliterates him.

>>149349087
Don't even know what rank I got from that fight, probably the repair expenses went way over the 300k reward too.

Rank was probably something like F-

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I'm playing Silent Line, and for the first time in the series, I think the corporations are pulling a fast one on me.

>fucking long-ass mission
>defend power plant from those flying ACs
>enter power plant
>fight a ton of laser turrets
>fight a Silent AC
>Reward: 32000

>go in power plant to put fires out
>corridors with inevitable heat damage
>Silent AC, only 5000 AP left
>Reward: 24000

It's a good thing you start with 300,000, or I would be in the red by now.

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And one question, /acg/. Are arena tiers locked by number of missions done in some of the entries? Usually I only do the Arena after finishing the game (so that was never an issue), but in Silent Line, you get stuck at the top of a tier (can't challenge the tier above) until you complete/fail more missions and receive an e-mail saying you advanced a tier.

I remember you had to advance tiers in MoA to open up missions, but not the other way around. Is this true for any of the other games?

I can't build Vaoh's machine, what rewards do you get from destruction path, on one missing.
>>149349238
Yes, with story ending missions never shows it unless you go check in free. Free battle replay shows reward anyway.

>>149349879
I think it's related to Raven rank in the early games, also you should be doing the arena as you go. If you kill off some Ravens in the games during missions then they disappear from the roster.

Bamp

Fuck its been forever since I played AC4 and now it feels wrong. No matter what I try my AC seems so slow and I feel like I'm just dragging along and letting myself get shot while my energy drains too fast.

>>149349702
This happens in prior games (bitchfit out of nowhere), but SL takes the cake. There's also a mission where they ask you to take 1 AC down, and when you go into the mission, you have to fight 3, the last 2 at once.
While AC is my favorite mech game series, I recognize there's no progression to speak of - you either get started right in the middle of the fire (first mission of AC2), or you do 5 hard missions in a row, the next one being to destroy some speeders that don't even shoot back at you. I think AC2: AA is the biggest culprit of this, for the sheer ammount of missions, and since there's no arena in the game, every AC you fight during missions has tons more of AP than an arena AC.

(I still defeated Hustler One on my first try, but it was more luck than anything).

>>149361787
>bolt in LR

>>149362198
LR was a big fuck you in general really. I remember taking missions and then suddenly I'm being told shit like there's 2 AC's coming at me while I'm stuck in an overheating power plant.

>>149363772
>>149361787

You know what they say in Dark Souls: git gud

>>149349702
Dude get cluster missile and machine guns with high heat. Or get plasma laser that fires two shots at once and see niggas drop. That will save some ammo costs. Silent Line is one of the easy game to cheese.

>>149365642
But dark souls is easier than AC. Sadly, the difficulty meme will never make AC popular like dark souls.

>>149366078
They could just port LR

>>149363772
if I remember that mission, is: go in the energy plant, it overheats, you escape to a safe zone but have to fight OMEGA a fucking hard pilot THEN, you fight the tank pulverizer.

that missions is bulsshit.

>>149366078
We just need a good marketing strategy

>new AC
>reboot with no subtitle
>"from the makers of Dark Souls"
>"this will be their hardest game so far"
>media and casuals do the rest.
>Old fans rejoice since it lives up to its legacy.

>>149366487
Classic and 3 era remasterization copilation, when?

>>149367115
The problem with calling Armored Core harder than Dark Souls, is that it's true. Dark Souls is built up to be hard as shit, but the games are actually pretty easy, all things considered. Therefore, when people finish them, they get a false sense of accomplishment, because the games are considered difficult, but still within the realm that any casual can finish them after bashing their head against a wall long enough.

AC, on the other hand, would actually live up to the 'hard-hype'. Even 4th gen, which is the easiest in the series, makes Dark Souls look simple. People who buy into the 'Souls is difficult' nonsense don't actually play for the challenge, but rather the empty bragging rights that they know they can get eventually. Armored Core can, has, and will crush these peoples' spirits, and turn them away.

>>149349702
Silent Line was full of curveballs, but that ended up making it more memorable.
>Test New Technology
>dodge missiles from 5 Power Suits
>there's actually 9
>you're on top of a plane
>during the mission, AI aircraft appear and start bombing your plane
>then, huge MT out of nowhere
Fuck you too, game.

>>149368439
Dark Souls has roll, parry, riposte and Estus Flask.
Armored Core has nothing. You either get out of their line of fire or die in flames.

>>149368439
And 4 is the closest to DS in how certain stats affect your gameplay, like weight, energy and type of weapon you use.

But since DS simplifies how to do damage to rpg stats and scaling with weapons, it doenst require so much thinking on how to build or equip your character.

>>149367115
Close but you fight G. Faust in the plant before the pulverizer. I don't even remeber who OMEGA is. Also I think part of the problem whith getting AC to be popular is that it requires you to invest time and think a bit. I remember checking out reviews from garbage sites like IGN and they all complained that AC took too much time investment and it was too hard to deal with the stats. So it seems like the problem is people being too stupid to even play the game.

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>>149368461
And then you get Last Raven, that is a "Curveball: Fuck you raven-the game"

>>149369348
>all those aerial pulverizers
>4 ravens back to back
Fuck I almost wish this was a mission. I really miss 3rd gen AC games. I need to have an AC marathon today.

>>149369095
I am amazed when they complain about something like that, and games like disgaea (or anything made by nippon ichi) shinegami tensei (and all his spin-offs) and even pokemon have a lot of stats and sometime secrets stats that can affect the performance of a character greatly.

>>149369597
And ravens that wanted each other death on Last raven too.

>>149369767
I wouldn't call NIS or SMT games popular. Certainly nowhere near as niche as AC, but they don't really have any sort of casual fanbase. And Pokemon can be thoroughly enjoyed just by playing surface deep, and never bothering with all of the in-depth stuff.

Not to mention, those are all RPGs, played at a much slower pace, which gives a player much more time to come to comprehend complex systems on their own time. AC drops a player into a mission, and kicks them in the ribs, while screaming at them that they made poor decisions.

>>149369918
Evangel proved that he had at least a few reddeeming qualities when the fate of the world is on the line. He fights the pulverizer for you so you can shut off the internecine even though he wanted more than anything to prove his dominance. Zinaida was aso just trying to prove herself and never seemed to really hate anyone. But fuck Jack, hes a massive cunt.

>>149368691
>not shooting it down

What bullshit moments are there in FA and V era?

>>149370881
Why is jack bad?

>>149371151
He schemes for the entirety of the game to try and "out" the ultimate dominant and in the process he betrays his comrades and sets them up to be killed by you or others while doing nothing about the internecine while being the only one who initially knows about it.

>>149033543
Anyone want to play some For Answer coop? Doing my second run through the game right now, barely managed to beat the boss fights last time.
Normal, not hard mode, my anus isn't ready yet.

>>149371151
For starters, he discoverd the intercine and accidentaly activated, knowing that the thing will produce pulverizers and how they evolve, start the war in the game in a attempt to find a dominant good enough to destroy them, manipulates his sides and betray loyal soldiers in his search for a good dominant. Case in point Sorcerer, and explicit close friend of him, and send the player to kill him.

Just me or are the AALIYAH thrusters and generator really good? The gen has mediocre capacity but really good output.
Only the OB thruster seems kinda ehh with that ridiculous initiating drain

>>149371707
>>149372167
>implying that's wrong

>>149373120
AALIYAH Generator is good, one of the best output, but the AALIYAH itself eats to much of it.

>>149373692
I swapped out pretty much every single thing in the aaliyah aside for the generator and some of the thrusters.
That blade was nice, but I swapped it for a longer reach one, as the limited range really hampered its performance in my opinion.

I noticed that my current middle weight build can easily stunlock other NEXTs if I manage to land a hit on them with the blade, allowing me to just keep on bashing them till they're dead. A cheap tactic probably, but it works.

>>149373692
>company that focuses on Kojima tech
>their star AC is one of the worst built machines
>the other one is one of the worst reverse legs

>>149374410
We will see in tomorrow SNFA.

>>149374582
I'll probably get fucked six days till sunday if I attempt anything against a real player. No way am I implying that I am good at this game.

>>149374582
Might as well try my gimmick plane.

What makes me go fast but get permaflight?

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>>149368691
>he doesn't agitate, jump out, or even feel it in the will
Casual detected.

>>149370936
Drastic/10

I'm almost by the end of Silent Line, and I gotta agree with that image. This game has the best story missions and the most memorable ones too (save for AC2). AC3 felt like you discover everything 2 missions before the end, while in SL, you realize stuff throughout the game.

>>149377137
I can do just fine while fighting in an open space, but sometimes the game just doesn't want to see you shine. Changing strafe direction mid-boost, small hops are second nature to me. But it all goes to hell when you're fighting two ACs in a corridor. Or worst, when you're fighting the 3 ACs in AC2: AA (because of the slowdown). There was a mission in SL where you have to destroy generators while a consort deals with an AI AC, but he dies so fast that you can't even get some cheap shots in.

>>149365948
That's good for individual ACs, but not for the missions they're usually in. One thing I tried to do was make an arena-oriented AC and just run through the small fry. It works to some extent, but I'd rather not depend on it.

>>149377137
But could you break it down?

>>149381558
Master the art of piles.

>>149385823
Not only can I break it down, I can talk 'bout deep sea with you.

>>149386135
>pile bunker
>ac3
I'd rather run up to the enemy's face and try to burn him with flamethrowers.
That's actually rather useful.

>>149386135
Aren't piles kinda shit in the PS2 games?

>>149387259
Yes and know. They hit hard as fuck, but hitting with them is super difficult. They've got crazy short range, and, if memory serves, a bit of a wind-up time before they strike. If you can hit with them, they hurt. But hitting is the hard part.

>>149386312
>talk about deep sea with me
Okay.
Well what do you think about the deep sea fish?

>>149390398
Well, it loves you forever. All are as you're thinking over.

>FA piled
>unlike sword it had no extra dash
>can't hit for shit on Nexts
>latency
What purpose

>>149391927
That's pretty drastic baby. Do you think out in space that someone waits there?

AC4, ACFA, or both?

>>149395007
They're both cheap and better single player than 5 and VD so do it, grab both.

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This scene from Fafner Exodus almost looks like a ACV animu. Neat.

>>149361756
Are you playing with the patch? 'Cause if you don't you are fucked. Well, sort of. The game still is fun even when your energy gets sucked when you OB. You can RP a bit and think since it's new tech it's not efficient at all.

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>>149397570
That looks cool, the head reminds of this one.

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What if it the next instalment included human appearances ingame like models or portraits?

Well, just finished Silent Line. That's it for the old gen of AC games for me. Easiest game was AC3, hardest was AC2. Most annoying was AC2: AA, for sure.

One thing I noticed while playing was that, with each game, I was using missiles less and less, and relying more on rockets or linear weapons. I think the last time I used a missile was back in AC2. I was kinda surprised when I discovered cluster missiles or that big box that shoots a ton of missiles, a la Gundam Dendrobium.

Maybe I didn't really care back in AC1, but even so, the voice acting has gotten worse with each game. Ra... ven...

>>149405136
Why did you think AC2 was the hardest?

I never found it very hard personally.

>>149406250
The game throws you right into the frying pan. Not with that starting mission, but the one right after that (with the flying spheres that spew bullets). They die to a single shot, but that first room was a slap in my face. Dodging was way harder in the PSX games, but there weren't many enemies (save ACs) that shot in controlled bursts. Entering a room with turrets was just another day in the PSX games, but it was a deathtrap in AC2. So I kinda went for AP instead of movement in the PSX games.

AC2:AA had a few missions that were harder (like the fight against 3 ACs at once), but AC2 had the harder missions overall. AC3 was too easy, and SL had a lot of curveballs, but almost every build was viable.

Say that fullmetal quest guy is doing another one.

Wanted to say sorry to the xbox guy I said I'd play with. Massive storm rolled in and my net is shit for now. I'll try to be on tomorrow.