/r6g/ Rainbow Six Siege

First for Tachanka buff

White Castle when?

Something to spark conversatoin:
1) Why is this game so fun/addicting
and
2) How has Ubi fucked this game up so bad

its fucking dead

I ask again now!
How the fuck does peeking work?
How I do I not throw my entire body out of cover when having a little look?, I use walk and lean but from the opponants perspective it looks like I'm a good half meter away from the wall

>>148936123
The game is fun and addicting because it simply rewards game play on a multi dimensional aspect - it isn't JUST down to who shoots better, like Counter Strike or other games. You can better position yourself, implement unexpected strategies and otherwise fuck with your opponent in exciting ways.

Played a match where I started breaching the roof on the defenders room, and as the defender was panicking trying to deal with my shit, buddy kicked in the door and blasted him. You can't do that in any other game. We all have epic stories.

>Ubisoft Dun Fucked It Up
Ubisoft has fucked it up by, simply, not understanding exactly what it is they have created. It's been almost 9 months, and Doc still can't actually heal your team mates without exploiting the DBNO mechanic.

Other grievances
>Nitro Cell seems designed to be a trap type weapon, but is used 100% of the time as a shitty grenade, that is way more lethal than normal grenades and can't be thrown back
>sloppy implementation of Pulses update which is laughably not play tested cause it behaves super awesome on the left side and not at all on the right of the screen.
>Blackbeard's shield takes 30+ rounds of direct hits to destroy, and bullet impacts does not affect his aim in any way despite the shield being on his gun - making him literally impossible to kill in various situations
>Only one "Thermite" style operator who can breach reinforced walls, forcing Thermite to be a must pick and a handicap if not picked
>Nerfed blitz from an often picked to must-pick operator, to fuccboi status, and have not bothered trying to tweak him since
>tachanka has for the duration of the games existence been a fucking dumpster fire and Ubisoft is totally okay with this
>IQ still has not been given any utility beyond seeing where gadgets are, which is not important - and how Ubisoft does not understand this is beyond me
>other obvious flaws with operators since launch that go unaddressed while adding unbalanced new op's

>>148939606
In summary, while Ubisoft is adding two exciting new mysterious characters that will undoubtedly be OP, there are a fuck ton of characters that need to be balanced to make them better - which go neglected for whatever reason.

When the BOPE (??) operators are added to the game, the roster will be 26+1 characters, however of that only 16 or so will be worth playing. If Ubisoft simply balanced and updated characters to make them viable, we'd have a larger roster of good characters to select from which would make the meta more diverse, the game more strategic, and the game more enjoyable as you have more options to choose from.

As it is right now I want to choose characters like Doc, Montagne and Tachanka. I want to set up a massive entrenched turret that can slice through an entire team, or be an impenetrable mountain that puts fear into the heart of the enemy team. But these characters are dogshit, and they will never not be dog shit. You are better off selecting memebeard, Thermite, Ash or Sledge just like everybody else.

>thermite doesn't get garage
>"thermite please"
>"the last time I did it you all died so I'm not opening it!"
what

>>148938317
Peek fast, not slow. This will make it so you can look around the corner before the server updates your position on the enemies screen, giving you a window of opportunity equal to your ping to line up a headshot before the enemy ever saw you.
You look like you're half a meter away from the wall because your camera is in the middle of your body. Your legs and shoulders can stick out, even if your camera hasn't rounded the corner fully yet.

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bumping with some of my old webms so the general doesnt die again

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>>148943481
I'll help out

>It's a "bunch of clanfags playing casual for some reason cant stop being dicks in chat" episode.

>>148944672
Yeah I can understand premades queueing in casual because ranked has so many fucking cheaters, but there's no excuse to be a faggot, especially in casual.

>>148936123
1) Why is this game so fun/addicting

Because it is basically CS + where economy has been replaced with the ability to approach from unconventional angles. In addition they give something for dead players to do, and that role is often crucial. Also gunplay feels satisfying and every operator plays differently.
Valk is like puzzle pirates, castle is like danielfromSL, pulse is like cheaphacks4sale.edu,ru, thermite is like VIP escort.
2) How has Ubi fucked this game up so bad
Bad netcode, bad nonsensical hitboxes. If they fixed that and buffed the fuck out of BB, I honestly wouldn't mind.

Also I'd like to bring attention to how horrible and lazy the weapon skins, even paid ones, are. It looks like an intern made them and it saddens me to see them as a 3d artist. Honestly even arma3 reskins look better

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>>148945823
>Buff BB

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>>148945823
I don't even like the idea of having weapon skins and when most of them look like someone vomited on their gun there's really no reason to buy them except to make other people cringe.

>>148946391
>Shadman

Delete this.

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>>148945823
>buffed the fuck out of BB

>>148945823
>wanting a buff for the most OP, gamebreaking character

Fuck off shitter

>>148946020
>>148949694
>>148949954
goddamn y'all dumb niggas he means that he wouldn't mind blackbeard being even more broken if they fixed their netcode and hitboxes

THAT'S NOT HOW LIGHTS WORK UBISOFT.
FUCKING TONE DOWN THE HDR REEEEEEEE

>>148933980
>>148946391
I came here to operate, not get aroused. Also I have white camo weapon skins on all of Buck's guns and the white hat/facepaint headgear as well. Gotta be optimal camo.

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So you finally fucking post the full picture

BOPE WHEN

>>148946530
>/aco/fag

I hate shad too desu, but he's the only one that makes decent games.

Finally got all the achievements. why did they have to be so grindy

>>148946391
>Criticizes the weapon skins
>Posts shadshit

>>148958981
>grinding achievements
for what

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when are they going to fix this shit

>>148957586
What the fuck is /aco/ and what games?

I just think shadmans art is fucking disgusting as do most people.

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>>148959262

>>148960740
It's a board on 4chan, I'm sure you're familiar with that site, right?

>An update to, and in response to, the previous news post I made earlier today, u/Its_Epi has confirmed that the French flag charm will be available to all accounts currently on Rainbow Six: Siege.
We are deeply saddened by the attacks in France on Bastille Day. Out of respect, we ended the Bastille Day Challenge and will be applying the French Flag charm to all accounts that own the game as of today. We will update you with the date that the charm will be added to your accounts next week. -Its_Epi
This is in response to a community reaction to the ending of the Bastille Day challenge asking Ubisoft to make the French flag charm available to all users as a show of solidarity in light of the Nice, France terrorist attack. They may or may not have already had this action in mind before hand.

why

>>148961923
>be french
>play siege
>wow this guy who teabagged me has the french flag equipped! it's good to know there's people out there who stand with us in these dire times

>>148961923
Old news, bro.

Really wish the cheaters didn't ravage this game in the high levels. It's so incredibly difficult to find a game in ranked at plat. I get like 10+ minute queue times. The only times I've had sub 5 min qs is when I pair with my silver - gold friends and pub stomping low golds and silvers isn't fun, nor is it worth the ELO. I want to get better by playing better legit players :(

>>148967158

Don't play ranked

>>148968987

I wouldn't but I don't have as much fun in casual when you don't really have a set goal to work towards like "I'll try to get Plat 2 today, and maybe Diamond by the end of the week".

Siege was filling that itch for a comp shooter after I quit CSGO and there's really nothing else like it that I could substitute for. It's balls

>>148969409

That rank does nothing maybe gets you a cool charm but really? I like siege since it has a simple easy progression system

>>148969409

The challenges albeit some of them are super simple but that is a reason to play and complete them to get more renown etc...

Not just the in game challenges but the Uplay challenges as well from pressing shift + f2 then clicking challenges section.

so the discord is dead and the teamspeak is empty, does anyone want to play ranked? I'm close to being Gold 1

test

Is the actual game going strong at least
ded general and maybe ded game?

>>148971230

Game usually peaks at 12k from Steam reports, which doesn't count people like me you bought it directly from Ubisoft so I don't think so.

>>148971230
http://steamcharts.com/app/359550

still alive somewhat

>>148960740
/aco/ is (western) adult comics
when the rest of 4chan complains about shad's content (loli rape, racemixing), /aco/ complains about his proportions and lack of development as an artist

>>148971616

Like the guy above you said as well steamcharts doesn't account for all the people who have the game straight through Uplay.

As well GeForce Bullets or Blades Bundle promotion where people chose the game of ass ass ins creed... So i'd say it's still pretty populated and much more so than the division now.

>>148972647

chose the game over* assassins creed.

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>>148933980
What happened to all the links

>>148978016
op is a redditor too stupid to copy/paste and include previous thread

We're dead till BRs

LET'S FIX THAT BOOBOO

What happened to this thread? Did a new game come out or what?

>>148987563
people are playing so they cant respond

>>148978016
>>148979297
Previous thread was just like this too, because the general died and was down for like 8 hours.

>>148987563
I've been playing Smite and Evolve, with Siege every so often.

>>148993705

Basically this


Play some other games while prepare for the BR onslaught

can i get a fucking team to play this game, solo queueing is so dogshit, its actually WORSE than csgo

>>148970441
Teamspeak has people in it was down for a few days

>>148996653
>guns that shoot themselves on accident

>>149001662
I'll queue with you, I'm on the TS and discord

>>148996653
Yeah. Siege is great, but I hit level 50, realized I'm utter trash at it and have put it to the side while I consider if I should bother playing it anymore. Might just stick to playing my Kirby games. I wish I was even being sarcastic when I said that.

>>149004592
you don't really understand the game fully til like level 120 or so

>>149004592

Nigga there is nothing wrong with kirby games

The PvE version of Bartlett University has to be coming in Season 3. What's taking them so long?

>>149005145
croc of shit, it depends on how fast you want to learn and how much effort you put into learning. i was diamond by level 80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGSsKRAm98k

>leaked gameplay of school map

>>149006653
You mean pvp?

>>149007263
Wait this drone shit is real? I thought it was a Rainbow Six Siege universe tech?

Fuze's gadget is so inconsistent, they need to make it less random. I can stand on top of one and won't die yet I'll behind two walls and a counter across the map and a stray puck will kill me and my team.

I was upstairs on Hereford on the top of the stairs 3F and a fuze used his gadget on the window in the main room and it flew all the way through the doorway and exploded down the stairs, killing me.

>>149007367
Shit, yeah I meant PvP.
I'm also glad they changed the size of the drones since the E3 trailer. The drones in the E3 trailer were like the size of pens.

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>IQ dies to a planted nitrocell

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I was thinking about siege when I woke up today. Thinking how since it launched, its been consistently the most fun multiplayer game I have ever played. It has its frustrating moments, most of them were nearer to launch when it had some major issues that were ironed out. Sometimes I get even pretty upset by stupid stuff, but damn its a fun game. I dont think a multiplayer game has had me this into it since BF2. If only my big brother was still around to play games with me. He would have loved this game.
>>148934590
I wear the skull headgear for castle so people dont have to suffer looking at his nigger face if I manage to kill people. I do it out of the kindness of my heart.

how much damage does Buck's skeleton key actually do?

man, low ranked players are crazy bad. I'm playing with a friend so it's all shitters and it's so attack sided. Everyone just groups up around the objective and lets attackers into the building with zero opposition, it's insane how I'm just allowed to have free range of the entite building outside of the objective rooms. I don't get how you guys get stuck anywhere below platinum, these players are incredibly ignorant of how the game works on a fundamental level you can abuse them all day.

>>149014653
I'm stuck because I simply hate getting stuck with 5 shitters I have no control over and if one quits its pretty much a guaranteed loss.

I force my friends into quick play unless there is 3 of us minimum.

Discordfags
Ask the admin to make a permanent link and put it in the OP

>>149009791
Why you play with him online, wherever he is? It's a (basically) online only game after all.

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>>149012798
enough to make me wonder if I should stop trying it out

>>148970389
>montagne as the goal keeper
>the ball still goes through him

What is it with people in casual in the game lately? I stopped playing ranked because I got tired of the bullshit and frankly didn't feel like going tryhard every single match.

But for fuck's sake it's like casual and ranked have fused because I get matched against stacks of Plats/Diamonds or else I get teamed up with clanfags who try and tell me what to do, watch my screen after they're dead, and ultimately take the game too seriously for casual. Like do they not get it's fucking casual and yes I want to win but I'm also just playing to have fun?

One guy kept bitching that I was picking Glaz because 'he doesn't help' even though I was getting 2-3 kills per round with him, I don't fucking get it.

>>149021205
would throwing a laser on Buck be useful, just for the skeleton key spread?

Anyone play on Xbox?

>>149026686
I play on PS4 and gave up finding people on here, can't imagine it'll be much different on Xbone. It's pretty much all PC players here.

>>149025136
Who knows. I played some games last night with two teens who kept whining on the mic every time they died. One of them even asked if we were playing on casual or not. He also didn't want to get revived because he somehow downed himself and blamed it on the "game's bullshit"

>>149028906
I played a few games last night with these tryhards in casual, they kept trying to boss everyone around and insisted nobody picked their operators(They were Valk/Frost babbies). They were both 150+ plats that I honestly couldn't understand why they were even in casual.

I'm a gold I either getting matched against plats and getting stomped or getting teamed with them and stomping. It's annoying, the matchmaking in this game sucks cock.

And I swear the netcode got worse over the past few weeks, I keep shooting people and blood splatters out yet I do no damage and/or I get killed in the process. Oh and Pulse is even more of a cunt than before, why they decided to buff him instead of Tachanka or Doc is forever beyond me.

>>149025136
People who used to play ranked don't wanna cuz theres hackers and shit so they move down to casual and it sucks

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>made a long post about a match
>solve the captca
>Post
>you mistyped the captca after the green check mark
I've never been this mad in my life

>>149029906
I used to play ranked but then my squad kinda dissolved and I took time off from the game. I don't wanna wreck my rank when the season's almost over so I'm just waiting 'til the update drops to go back but in the meantime casual is a cesspool.

>>149030238
Still better than the ones that make you look for retarded street signs only to tell you're wrong when literally everything else were bananas.

>>149012798
Low DMG to players, unless you're point blank.

Only for emergencies, or in extremely close quarters (e.g, blueroom in clubhouse basement).

Remember, the skeleton key's spread increases immensely when you aim down the sight.

>>149030559
>increases immensely
*decreases

>>149028906
>play ranked game
>someone leaves in first round so we're now down a man and doomed to defeat
>still manageo to win the first two rounds
>two fucktards begin killing each other at the beginning of round 3 part way through
>lose the round
>round 4, immediate friendly fire breaks out between these two guys
>yell on mic that they need to calm the fuck down and it's annoying as shit
>round 5, get into fight
>winner is looking proud as shit tea bagging and leaning
>walk up and shoot him in the head

I'll never play ranked again I swear. I encounter shit like this in Quick Play I can just leave, or I only have to deal with it for 3-5 rounds. 7 rounds of this shit with a 100% guarantee there is nobody getting added back in is just needless disappointment.

reeee blackbeard

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>>149031576
>inb4 pic related

>>149031525
No, the reason to never play ranked again is the fact you can string together 10+ wins in a row and only gain 2-3 ranks but lose 3-4 out of your next 10 and you'll lose at least 2 ranks regardless how you lost and what your opponnent's rank was.

I mean, the fact the ranking system is still considered a beta at this point of the game should say everything.

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>>149026686
my gamertag is NENGSHISHANWEN
the mic on my headset stopped working but it doesn't matter because i carried myself to plat 3 playing solo so i can probably carry you too (:

or we can fuck around in casual, i enjoy casuals. if anyone adds me just send me a message saying "r6g" or something because i get friend requests from randoms often enough to ignore FRs

>>149032115
I mean honestly I could not care less - I don't think ranked should be some sort of bullshit leaderboard like it is right now, and it should be almost like a second leveling system you participate in for 3 months, and you race to the top.

So instead of constantly racing for ranks, it'd be progress, with those who do better progressing faster

>"EXP" gain for "Ranked Level" based on some bullshit equation of individual merit / how you contributed in the match (score), whether you won or loss, how much you won or lost by, and the level of the opponents, how many players on your team
>winning against lower level opponents grants a smaller exp pool than winning against higher level opponents
>losing against lower levels would give you a very small amount of EXP while those guys would get a much, much higher reward
>playing consistently well and playing regularly means you will shoot ahead of the shitters
>matchmaking is less dependent on being 100% perfect since, if matchmaking is utter shit in the current system you are heavily penalized, whereas getting into a bad match / "full plat stack" means you can still earn some progress even if you get stomped
>the better players would still be at the absolute top, the shit players still feel like they would be making progress and as a result more people would be playing ranked
>reset ranked levels at the end of the season and issue the rewards

It's such an obvious solution to the problems I'm surprised nobody has done it. Blizzard's Overwatch has similar complaints with their ranked system, winning 6 matches and losing 1 means a net loss in progress, and it's just not enjoyable on any level for anybody.

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>smoke hiding behind a bookcase
>start shooting through it
>ping ping ping rounds don't go through
>smokes me
>last teammate falls off roof
>lose
Next game
>2-2
>me and blitz pushing up on point with thatcher close behind
>3v3 now I'm dead
>1v2 now
>look at buck
>lvl 67
>if he would have pushed up with thatcher we would have won
>instead he shoots a camera and runs back upstairs to unopened hatch at last 15 secs
>lose
>look at account
>it's a woman
The memes are true they can't think beyond themselves

>>149033001
Well I'm in agreement on that. I hate the way ranked works and got tired of busting my ass to rank up only to drop a game or two and all the progress I made goes down the shitter with it.

I just don't think they care enough/have a desire to improve the ranking system because their pro league babbies haven't complained about it yet so they think it's okay. I think the whole thing is retarded and the only reason I even played in the first place was to get a retarded ass gun charm.

>>149035102
I can tell you for 100% of a fact every single person who plays ranked games thinks the system in place sucks ass, with the exception of those who dominate the top. Even then, it's dicey.

I shit you not I was literally best in the world at that shitty Lord of the Rings RTS that hit the Xbox. There was a fairly big player base for a game like that given it was the first "console RTS" to actually "work" and not play like total shit.

Me and a buddy spent the entire summer climbing the leaderboards. 8-12 hours a day, constantly playing matches. We'd hit the number 6 spot on the leaderboard, lose a match, and drop 70 spots. Every time we win, we only climbed back up 5 or 6 back.

The top 30 people on the leaderboards were boosting too, so competing with those assholes exploiting the system was just idiotic. It was really no fun, and everyone we talked to that high up enjoyed fighting to maintain staying in the top 100.

We finally called it quits by challenging everyone we possibly could on the top 100, and retired once we beat the vast majority of them. There wasn't much more to do than stressing over having to play another 9 hours cause you lost that game yesterday.

If RB6 Siege had that alternative progression, and rewards at set tiers - I'd be playing the fucked out of ranked. Give out charms for their overall "rank" they obtain (silver, gold, etc), make Platinum and Diamond almost impossible, and make an "Unobtanium" rank for those who have no life (Basically playing 6 hours every day, winning every match, for the entire season to reach this rank) - Give one or two rewards for extra shit like "Played 100 hours of ranked in Season 2" and have a charm or weapon skin for it, Diamond and Plat players get unique weapon skins plus their coveted charm

idk I'm no game designer but that seems like way better system, since even if you suck you could still obtain some sort of goal just by playing enough.

>>149035817
I agree there really is no incentive to play ranked. There's literally nothing that suggests rank is a more rewarding/exciting experience than casual aside from a little bit more XP/Renown per match, which doesn't even equal out to much and ranks are meaningless in this game anyways.

There's no real reason to play ranked outside of wanting a charm or just to unlock a couple achievements. That's the main issue outside the fundamentally flawed ranking system itself. Ranked is just for the try-hards to encounter other try-hards except they couldn't even do that right because they'd rather go to casual and tool on teams of randoms.

As someone who put in the grind for ranked this season, I highly doubt I will again next season unless they completely overhaul the way it works and stop ignoring the playerbase.

>>149036125
>As someone who put in the grind for ranked this season, I highly doubt I will again next season unless they completely overhaul the way it works and stop ignoring the playerbase.

Frankly, I just qualified for ranked this season so I'll get the charm after BR-Palooza resets ranked. It's not like I'll ever use it since I have 3 of those nice flag charms (Missed the Den Rossi D: ), but it'll sit in that list instead of, well, not.

Casual is better. Ranked gives almost no extra renown, and sometimes less, as you can go up to a full 7 rounds and still end up with, what 280 or something renown? I got shit to save up for.

In casual if I get a bad match, I can leave, or stick it out for the last few remaining rounds. My only issue with casual is they don't give you the ability to pick your spawn point, which sucks, but in some ways that is also it's own feature.

Having to set up the best defense you can with whatever shit spawn you were dealt can be fun.

>>149037162
I barely qualified for ranked in the 1st season, I was somewhat new to the game and had reached bronze before the season ended, wound up with a bronze rank charm. I'm gold 1 right now, wondering if my bronze charm will be replaced by the gold one or if I'll get the gold one in addition to the bronze.

Casual is better simply because the games are faster, the XP/Renown difference is barely if at all noticeable, and the whole experience is just more streamlined.

If we could pick spawns in casual it'd be cool but I can deal with it the way it is. My only issue with casual is the fact you can have games where the defense literally defends one room in the entire map for the duration of the game, that shit gets old.

Or the games where one team seems to get all the 'good' spots to defend and the other gets all the shitty ones.

Right now casual is suffering from rank washouts who stack up into casual and wreck on the rag-tag teams that I've been playing on lately. Casual used to be more balanced than rank for a good portion of the time I was playing but now casual feels like ranked, either getting stomped or stomping them, no competition.

So did BOPE characters leak yet

>>149038343
No and there's no indication of them coming anytime soon.

Ubishit is absolute fucking garbage.

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How to avoid tilt

>>149038530
attack is a guy, he has a crossbow that does some weird shit, its like small aoe damage but also produces smoke. Defender is girl, she has a meter/cooldown based movement that makes her footsteps silent when walking and very quiet sprinting. her side arm is NONLETHAL but does good damage

>>149038658
>smoke
weeeewwww
defender sounds op

>>149038658
>implying you are leakbro
>another girl defender

>>149038658
>>149038936
>>149039216

another person here. i can confirm. also even if its nl, i still got a kill with it. c-bow has 2 modes. also hint for dlc name

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6CEEDwcQOE

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>>149038658
>>149039580
>BOPE
>literal militarized favela death squad
>non lethal sidearm
>smoke crossbow

nice try faggot, i don't believe you

>>149040090
screen cap us idc. I even got their names.

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Can we all agree the Pulse buff was the straw that broke the camels back?

We had healthy generals right up until the moment Ubisoft made Pulse a must pick amazing operator from his previous position of perfectly balanced. I personally lost faith in Ubisoft even wanting to provide us with a half decent game experience, so I just feel like the game will remain forever shit and operators like Blitz, Doc, Tachanka, Montagne, and others, will just go unbalanced and forever remain useless characters.

I don't know, the generals almost immediately died and I've basically stopped playing. Overwatch atleast buffs and nerfs based on actual data, but it's no Siege. I feel like the game died and I have nothing to replace it with.

ANNOUNCEMENTS WHEN atleast a fucking teaser would be nice

>>149042117
imo he is just a high pick rate cause he was recently updated. we might see a decrease and plateau with him soon. I use to see him every game now there are times I don't see him. Could also the fact that this week's ubisoft challenges had FBI operators as needed.

>>149042117
It's a buff that nobody asked for and one that made no sense as his pickrate was fine and he was perfectly balanced. Now he's just OP as shit and I see him every game, usually roaming around the start of the map and blowing away 1-2 attackers right off the bat.

He's so fucking OP now it's not even funny yet his buddy Castle is like a special ed kid still.

On a different note, what's wrong with Blitz? He's still easily the best shield operator with his flash shield. Why are people saying he needs a buff? He's fine.

>>149042549
blitz has a massive head hitbox which I assume gets him obliterated in the higher tier games where the only kills are headshots

Oh just saying, I think C4 needs to either be nerfed to hell, removed, or overhauled because the C4 abuse is out of control.

It's so obvious they were designed as trap type weapons with remote detonations, why the fuck are they tossed? This literally encouraged people from day 1 to use them as grenades. Why not just give defenders a grenade at that point? It'd be less of a hassle to deal with and wouldn't be as OP as these fucking things.

Either make the C4 only plantable on surfaces like walls and the floor(No toss animation, has to be placed like a Kapkan trap) and then they have to either be remotely detonated like they are now or else remove that feature entirely and make them act like the ones in T-Hunt that are proximity based.

>>149042349
While this is a plausible situation, the ability to see easily with the scanner up and have real time, active wallhax is a big change in how he performs. He is much easier to play and has access to more reliable information. I think people are seeing this and picking him more often as a result.

He basically had a perfect pick rate before the patch. The highest possible pick rate is 20% (OP being picked 100% of the time every round ever - number is 20% because DLC ops still aren't published) and his was 10-9%. The community was saying he was balanced. They were picking him as often as they weren't.

People like Tachanka and Montange have pick rates as low as fucking 1%. Blitz is in the 5% region where he used to be a must pick like Thermite. There are so many people that, if you just look at the data or common sense, need the buff.

I don't have the screenshot on me right now, but I remember the thread where it was announced Pulse was getting the tweak and everyone's reaction / reaction pics were unanimously "why Pulse?"

Castle has been in need of a small buff for awhile now. Nothing major, but maybe giving him Pulses Nitro, or making giving him 6 castlecades would help? Who knows, I'm not a game designer... But evidently neither are the people in charge of this shit show.

>>149042638
But isn't that the trade-off? He gets arguably the best shield but has a rather large hitbox. I don't see how that would make him unbalanced. At least you have a chance in a gun fight with him as opposed to having to toss a nitro.

>>149042549
Massive head hitbox, and unreliable flash range. Add this with emerging new playstyles and heavy emphasis on roaming (Valk, Pulse) especially with Blackbeard forcing people out of defending the objective room and Blitz has become obsolete.

Shield Operators were primarily used to breach a fortified position the enemy has entrenched themselves in. With the current meta been 24/7 roaming, the slow movement speed and inability to fuck up a roamer has just made them redundant.

That said, his pick rate has always declining since his nerf - they should have just reduced the charges his shield had and kept the range, because now it is far too short to be useful.

>>149042654
If it is proximity based, that defeats the purpose of kapkan. Also, imo I would just increase the delay for arm time and reduce the noise to encourage it as a trap weapon instead of a ghetto grenade.

>>149042942
Then leave them remote controlled but remove the ability to toss them. I think everything else could stay the same at that point.

>>149042837
>New meta
So this would explain why the game feels so different to me..I took about a month or so off after I reached gold and since coming back have noticed the game plays way different.

>>149043061
The easiest offender for this can simply be Blackbeard - he makes fortifying the objective room almost suicidal sometimes. He simply can not be reliably killed in a direct confrontation, so now people are spreading out to multiple rooms.

So you will have people spreading out and defending the neighboring rooms, making a shield breach difficult at best.

Valk and her camera's mean there is much more ability to roam, and her, as a roamer, also has a nitro cell. If you get spotted (and usually you don't) you need the speed to book it, or the speed to react to a Valk. Knowing that she can come out of her fucking hidey hole and just chuck a bomb as your slow ass shield knowing where you are 100% without you ever being aware, sucks.

Pulse does not help this on any level.

The end of the day, it's forced attackers to ditch shields as they just aren't as useful as the good old days.

>>149043314
I took a break about a month or so ago, hard to believe all that's happened in that time frame. Before that, I'd been playing for a solid 3-4 months straight and the meta hardly changed at all(Aside from the obvious changes Dust Line brought).

I suppose that's why BB isn't as easy mode as before(Key word 'as') and Valkyrie's a lot harder to pick now that people know how to use her.

It's also fun seeing Kapkan picked frequently and actually getting kills with his traps now. Too bad that's all swept under the rug because Pulse has become a one man fucking wallhack army.

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>hear velcro strip
>withdraw immediately
how are nitro cells problems for anybody

>>149043592
See a good update was what they did to Kapkan. They found a way to buff Kapkan, who badly needed a buff, without breaking the game. They just made him a good character people actually want to play as. Didn't even shake up the meta exactly.

Pulse is just beyond silly.

>>149043639
>Implying you always hear the velcro
>Implying you're always in position to be able to get away
>Implying you're playing as an operator fast enough to get away
>Implying just because you personally don't have an issue with something means the issue is nonexistent
And world hunger isn't real because I just ate.

>>149043771
I agree, Kapkan was handled great and I'd say better late than never. Now if only Doc and Castle could get buffs we'd be talking. I don't know why they thought Pulse needed a buff or who even pitched the idea.

I assume it was a joke that someone took seriously and made happen or something? That's literally the only scenario I can see because his buff made no fucking sense at all.

br's when?

>>149044250
Mid or end of august if were lucky

>>149044083
>castle needs buffing
castle is fine, just useless in certain rooms and that issue cant be helped

>>149047270
>Castle is fine
Yeah totally when it allows fuze to safely deploy his shit, totally fine when glaz can just fuck you from the outside without ever seeing you if someone else inside marks your ass, totally fine that sledge can just make your barricade fucking useless in one swing and he has 20 charges for that hammer, the only time castle had any use is when paired with mute

This game reminds me of a faster World of Tanks. It's all about positioning, flanking, and taking shots on distracted enemies instead of full face-on duking it out, where map awareness is key. Why doesn't every human alive play RSS? It has no downsides.

>>149049796
Modern Ubisoft is in charge there is your downside

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>>149050162
Please explain

>>149042117
it'll go down soon enough. I also dont see any problem with it as his buff gives IQ more of a reason to get picked. Pulse hunting is easy stuff. The same shitters who are mad about pulse are the same shitlords who complain about blackbeard.
Just git gud you shitter.

>>149050387
The game has been out for more than half a year yet we still have the worst anti cheat for a full priced game there is, the people obviously like the game seeing how we have more players than the division yet they show no love for Siege they do not market it at all, it takes ages for patches and when we get a patch they break something most of the time (bucks skelly key and the initial release of the mute patch) ranked is in BETA in a full released game this isn't some early access title, i fucking love this game but it has it's problems and the recent patch made Pulse easier to use but there are other operators who needed a buff way more than him

>>149051161
So it's just getting fucking ignored by the devs because it's not a steaming pile of shit CoD clone (looking at you, battlefield) FPS? God I hate triple-A devs these days

>>149051772
Not him but I would say its getting fucked by the publisher because they cant market this to dudebros who only play for 2 hours after coming home from work so they dont put many people in to this game because of it

>>149051907
Why not? I mean, the Souls games can get the dudebro audience, and they don't even have automatic weapons.

>>149052046
Because they already put all their money in to marketing the division to the dudebros

>>149052046
At the last E3 they didn't even talk about Siege for 5 fucking minutes

>>149052156
Now that makes sense
>mfw my boss complains about Torbjorn being OP and loves The Division

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mmm niceeeeee

>>149051772
>>149051907
>>149052046

Ubisoft needs to support the game pronto we have a CSGO killer on our hands and they fucking waste it

Glad to see the general is still up!

>>149057579
I wish it wasn't. I thought there was an update, not an attempt to keep it alive, however valiant it may be.

Man, I set up a drone seeing a guy roaming and watch him turn his back so I breach through the window and when I landed, my shield goes up and even did Blitz's flash. I die to a head shot to see in the kill cam that I breach and didn't even put my shield up at all.

So much for carefully planned attacks.

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info when?

>>149038658
>muh silent sprinting
>non lethal sidearm for no reason
0/10

>>148960740
Ment to write decent games porn

>>149059242
esports shit finals is on July 30 for consoles and August 6 for PC. Somewhere around there they'll probably talk about Season 3.

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>>149043639
I made this webm for you.

>>149060385
Yay great again we have to sit through this cringefest only to get some info about the DLC well let's see how OP the BR's are

>>149061812
>lmao you are propably bad there are no cheaters in siege

I did one of these things again.

https://youtu.be/2pmFCwKaUHo

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Never knew stealing a kill would give out this much salt.

>overwatch now has had more content updates than Seige has ever had.

>>149068351
That fuccboi is a walking stereotype for console players.

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He must've been scared shitless.

>>149070793
Holy shit you got operated on hard

>>149070793
I hate that spot when playing as Thermite. There's always some roamer fucking shit in the opposite building sniping down from the windows or what that Pulse is doing in your webm. Doesn't help teammates don't cover the windows either.

LET'S FIX THAT BOOBOO

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>>149070793
>tfw you get royally out fucking skilled

>>149075334
I want Blitz to princess carry me

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>>149070793

>Game has been out for 6 months
>people still dont know this spot

>>149068770
And what content have they included in OW?

>>149068770
>>149077928

Sniper grandma but then I remembered how ubisoft are actually kinda better balencers than blizzard

>>149069284
Meanwhile on PC
>>149061812

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>Wanna talk about Siege
>Decide to use the reddit since this place is dead till BRs
>Cant be that bad
>Just thought the people complaining about were sekrit club autists
>Everyone keeps spamming TACHKANKA IS BEST XDXD and ROOK MINE :DDD
>Some shitty inside joke about Buck being Frost
>desperate youtube channels constantly post their shitty videos


That was depressing

>>149071570
>>149075738
>>149077491
His team should have been the ones watching the building, if that was a premade that was disgraceful.

>>149078346
>One (1) sniper grandma added compared to Siege's four (4) operators, plus two (2) more on the way
So basically >>149068770 is just making up bullshit again.

I'M AN ENGINEER, NOT A MEDIC

How about a DLC operator that has a shield which has like a mini explosive on the front of it so you can break through walls and doors without exposing yourself.

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I just remembered this promo screenshot. Who's the guy on the right? Before the game was released I thought it was a recruit with headgear customization. Right now though, I'm thinking it could be one of the BRs. Looks like a skull design on his balaclava and the BOPE patch shows a skull. Then again skull masks appear in some headgears.

Maybe they'll make use of the attacker character models from the E3 trailer too and make the character design gimmick of the BRs with rolled up sleeves.
>yfw the BRs were right in front of our noses the whole time.

>>149084937

The 2 to the right look like BRs.


Yet the ones one the left I dunno

Siege had alot of iterations

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>be plat 3 trying to get diamond
>constantly get matched with pro players
>all they do is bitch about shotguns

>>149085126
You can see the country patches on the first and third guy, Germany and France. The French flag looks backwards though

>>149079223
Now you made me feel bad for posting my video.

battle eye soon

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>>149088035

dont joke around about that shit anon

>>149088521
soon ;)

>>149088730

No punkbuster

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>Teabag charm
>"""Saltire"""

>>149090774

maybe mutes scottish?

I love going into Evolve General and finding fellow Operators in there. Cheers on your good tastes, mates!

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>>149093446

ayy give this foul little fuckers a try

>>149093783
I will once my copy arrives and I can toss the key into Steam, gotta be a Founder, yo.

>>149042837
>because now it is far too short to be useful.
Are you implying his flash shield range was nerfed? If so, it was never nerfed. It's always been short range. If anything, they've only made buffs to him since the game's release.

>>149084937
>luchador mask

>>149098228

>Operator named Luchador

I would not be mad

>>149098228
>>149098591
He better be able to dazzle enemies with the shining of his mask.

f

>I've gone from having matches full of teamkillers to matches full of level 100+ tryhards who spawn kill

Why the sudden increase in buck popularity?

>>149107718
I haven't noticed it desu

>>149107718
People figured out that his master key doesnt need a buff, you just have to be not retarded and step back from the wall.

Anyone know a way to increase hunter leveling?

Perks for Abe and Hank?

>>149105996
Faggot.

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I just had a Siege dream, lads.
>be defender as Pulse in Consulate - Hostage
>hostage is in the garage
>5v1
>everyone's roaming for Thermite at this point
>he managed to take the hostage since we let our guard down
>everyone panics and heads over to the garage
>blow a hole through one of the garage doors so we can snipe him out
>somehow have Glaz in our defender team
>he managed to down Thermite right before he extracts the hostage
>wait, why the fuck the round hasn't ended yet
>narrator suddenly says "New York police officer detected outside"
>see that there's some NYPD cop standing by the hostage
>suddenly fucking Fuze on a T-90 tank
>a half dozen team of attackers storm the building
>including one of the new Japanese operators that can ninja as his special ability by literally *teleports behind you*
>go full fuck it and head outside
>get a handful of kills from them
>managed to kill Fuze in the tank as well right before he was about to shoot me with the tank's cannon
>two of the attackers tried to get away from the carnage by driving out of the area
>get on the side of their car to shoot them
>mfw they were actually my real friends the whole time

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>Place breaching charge on window
>Rappel to the side of it
>Detonate it
>Killed myself because I thought I had enough clearance from the explosion

>>149112956
just another day in Siege

>>149112956
This but fuze charges.

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>community created skin
>exclusively on the worst gun that nobody uses

>>149080798
>Blizzard attempts to balance characters so they are all viable options
>Instead of having a roster of half useless characters and must picks they are trying to make all characters useful
>Each character drastically changes the meta and can influence the whole team and enemy team to react
>OPs like thatcher basically just mean it's okay to let thermite breach anything you want

I wanted to hate Overwatch, trust me, but it has the level of team work that Siege demands without the Ubisoft bullshit holding it back. Blizzard kinda sucks but by the time he games a year old I feel like it will be massive different.

>>149115275
Pretty much.

>Here's this shit skin on a BB pellet gun and you BETTER buy Mute's Union Jack gear with real money. YOU BETTERRRRRRRRR DO IT

So when do I stop finding new ways to die in this game?

>>149117453
Have you died by "breached a wall a defender was directly behind with their back turned and gotten shot through the smoke/dust as you charged in" yet?

>>149119951
Not him, but I've done the "breached a wall a defender was literally directly behind as he took no damage from the breaching charge, turned around and shotgunned me like the bitch that I am"

F

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>>149124330

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>>149119951
>breached a wall a defender was directly behind with their back turned
Took forever to get that achievement. Got it after 70 hours in PvP. I did it the old fashioned way too, i.e not placing a breaching charge on a downed enemy.

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>>149124870

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>this happened in a ranked match

this is on Xbox so there is no discounted sale version or anything. I'm just fucking shocked

>>149119951
I've had "get teamkilled passing under a breach charge on the floor above"

>>149124870
Hah, nice. I've seen that happen a lot with thermite charges but it seems like regular charges don't pack the same oomph

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>>149125273

>>149125609
My personal favorite is a fuze nade bouncing right off of a steel girder and exploding the second you use the charge

>>149125997
>fuze
People without mics should not be able to play Fuze. I'm playing blitz and am about to enter the objective room in border and I say it over chat. I break the door, manage to kill Doc, and about to push in when Fuze deploys his cluster charge. Hockey pucks start falling down right on me because the retard put it on the edge of the room right above me, not on the rook and mute hiding inside.

>>149125529
How he looks at the wall confused after it doesn't smash open is amazing. He actually does not understand why it didn't work.

>>149125529
Seems like that Sledge was """communicating""" to Thermite where to put his charge. Not a big loss anyway, it's difficult to use up all hammer charges in a single round.

>>149127992
I just don't fucking understand it cause it's a ranked match. You can't play in it unless you've played the game for hours.

>>149128116
he very clearly is trying to smash the wall, not signalling to sledge. He doesn't once turn to try and acknowledge a thermite, or more importantly, doesn't ping the spot using the actual in game tool.

he then went and fucking missed sledging the window too, so he had to run back and do it again. I'm not worried about the charges or "him using it up" or anything but holy shit man, it's a ranked match, and if your teammates are this bad how can you even compete?

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I got bandit tricked for the first time in 300 hours today. I don't know what to feel

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>endless T hunt dailies

>>149130619
I don't mind them, easy renown

>>149128391
If a friend invited him he is able to join ranked with a lvl 5 account

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Happy birthday to the waifu of Siege

>>149133162
>born an hour away from LA
>literally uses cameras as her main toolset
>they didn't name her Hollywood

I'm still upset by this shit

>>149133162
>57 kg
Lightweight.

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Stay radical bandit

>>149090774
>hyped as shit for this headgear
>it's a skin for his MP5K too
>and a pretty cool charm
>pay only
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>149133162
no way im gonna believe that's 1.70m

i'm 1.80m but i think im not as tall as her

ffs she has to be at least 1.85 or something

>>149135889
Worst part is you have to pay 10 bucks. I could excuse 5 bucks but 10 isn't fucking worth it.

>house
>secure on kids
>first thing I say is "don't reinforce at all"
>another guy says "yeah dont reinforce"
>a guy goes to reinforce the closet wall
>say "don't do it" at least three times
>kill him before the animation ends
>"the fuck is your problem you fucking retard"
>told him how you don't reinforce kids because its practically match suicide
>"you coulda told me you dumb bitch"
>his friend kills me
>get votekicked
gg

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>Kafe
>Hostage
>bar coolroom
>castle and mute lock the entire room down
>rest of the team didn't fucking matter
>attackers didn't bring a sledge, thatcher or ash
>had no way of actually getting the room
>sodium overdose in chat

>>149136181
Are you for fucking real? Ten fucking dollars ON A GAME I PAID FULL PRICE FOR AT LAUNCH for some shit?

And season pass holders (not one of them, lel) continue to get royally fucked in the ass with absolutely nothing of value?

What in the F U C K

>>149137350
A-at least we got gold and the new operators e-early

I have about 60k renown. That should be enough for both operators and attachments. Should I take a break from Siege so I don't burn out before the new DLC arrives?

>>149137662
Keep playing

Save up for diamond skin and get that.

>>149137662
If you haven't played Overmeme yet, it's a good break. It requires teamwork levels on par with Siege but, it's not "tactical"

It can be equally as rewarding from a "holy shit we are meshing as a team and we are pulling off sick shit" perspective, but it can also be equally as frustrating if you get fuccbois 24/7 as your squad mates

>if you thought someone picking tachanka was bad
>imagine having 3 people pick tachanka at the same time
>this is the horror of what "Hanzo" can mean to Overwatch players

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>>149139873
Why is that bad? When both people are pressured like that it makes for the best fights. I had a long ass fight against a dude when it was 1v1 and it was great.

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Welp

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>>149140057
>1v1
>entire team has gone silent
>every little noise is fucking terrifying
>timer ticking down
>cold shiver

Best moments in the game

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Dragoneye%20VIII/video/19796718

I've never been accused of hacking until I managed to get that headshot at the end.

>>149140275
I love how everybody just stares at the body.

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>>149140057
Exactly. The only thing I don't like about them is when you enter panic mode if something you didn't expect happens. This Ash just popped out of Sledge's ass and it scared the shit out of me.

>>149137350
Season pass holders should get discounts on cosmetics. There really is no reason to get a pass, otherwise.

>>149141409
That is the scam. You already have the pass. They don't have to give you shit.

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I'm sorry, I tried to find a good bitrate to resolution ratio but a 60 second video is just too fucked for 4chan.

I'll do better next time guys

>video is just me being a fuck and getting lucky destroying some guys on the enemy team

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>>149142273
>meleeing a barricade
>as sledge

>>149142273
>those long pauses where you and the enemy just look at each other
I'm glad I gave up my console ways

not even halo was that bad

>>149142665
>not realizing it was literally to get the result that occurred

Have you never done this on purpose before?

>>149142665
>make noise
>bait out nitro

silversurfer spotted

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>>149142665
People like you are why roamers still fall for the bait 9 months in

>>149143225
Never thought of it that way, to be honest. Yet I never got tricked by someone doing it since I always assumed they wasted breaches and had to resort to melee, and I'm usually fine with just timing them out. I'm not kill hungry.

>attacking on Consulate
>defenders are in garage and no one picked thatcher or twitch so instead of going to thermite garage door I head upstairs to the top hatches
>two guys turn on their mics just to tell me that if I pick thermite I need to come to garage instead of going inside
>ask them how we're going to do that with no twitch or thatcher
>crickets

Same match
>defending archives
>playing rook so I'm already tapping the right bumper (xboner)
>my finger slips pressing it down on round start to slide onto the trigger instantly headshotting one of the shittalkers.

I apoligized but really it was sweaty hand karma.

>>149142938
I play supr-srs-biznss FPS on PC and to be honest, it's refreshing to not kill people immediately / get wasted the exact moment you possibly can.

>play insurgency
>some dude got a good spot near specific set of rocks rocks
>exposed head is exactly 2 pixels at the distance we are engaging at
>firefights last 3 seconds because of laser precision accuracy

It goes both ways but it's nice to actually have firefights that take more than 2 bullets to resolve.

>>149143489
>play R A N K E D meme
>expect super srs operators
>get stuck with someone who picks FBI Shield Recruit.
>He uses the one frag grenade he gets as Shield Recruit to throw the frag grenade into my back as I am clearing a room

>>149140632
>I guess she will still be warm when the round is over

banning the high ping abusing high gooks fucking when?

>>149145437
This would seriously be my favorite game of all time if there were no cheaters and nobody over 150 ping in the game.

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>>149146054
>if there were no cheaters and nobody over 150 ping in the game.
if only
top guy is walling aswell

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>>149147834
He ain't wallin', he's just playing Pulse

>>149148597
as a attacker?

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>>149124870
Achievements are more fun when they pop up unexpectedly.

>>149149710
HAHA I JUST SAW THIS ON REDDIT !!!

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>>149125529

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SPETNAZ BUFFS WHEN?

How do people get to over rank 20 and still not know how to play?

>Barricade every single door leading the objective room
>castle barricade actual entrances to objective room
>reinforce FLOOR HATCHES
>drop a shield in the middle of the room somewhere and go prone pointing your gun at the door.


Genius.

>>149153007
It usually takes about level 50 to realise just how shit you are at the game, level 20 is still really nooby.

>>149153007
>>drop a shield in the middle of the room somewhere and go prone pointing your gun at the door.
what's wrong with this?

>>149153301
You ever heard the expression "like shooting fish in a barrel"?

Your enemy knows exactly what room you are in and you have barricaded yourself in so tightly you cant get the fuck out if you need to.

Now all they have to do is find which entrance your aren't covering and bang it. Then its open season.

>>149153487
>having uncovered entrances
c'mon man

>>149153561
literally every objective room will have more than 4 entrances be it walls, windows or doors or ceiling hatches.

And even if you get one of them, the jig is up now. You get flashed and get fucked. It's shit strategy for dumb asses. you are literally just "hoping for the best",

What you do is have 2 roamers covering the most likely entry points, stairs and walkways then you have the other 2 people cover the windows and walls in the actual objective room.

>>149153561
All it takes even is a shield to come through your door and you probably lose right there. unless you happen to have a nitrocell.

>>149153007

I find sometimes using floor hatches to defend a room

>>149137148
castle barricades can be destroyed

>>149153709
>POSITIONING DOESNT MATTER THEYLL JUST KILL YOU THROUGH THE WALL
>GOTTA RUN AT THEM AND BRING THE FIGHT TO THEM RUN RUN SHOTO SHOOT BANG BUY BLACK OPS 3

Fucking kill yourself

>>149155276
not at all what was said, thank you for your well thought out response though.

Shitter.

>>149137148
Thats retarded. Grenades can destroy Castle walls and you can still just bash them down.

why am I suddently connected to sbr? I'm usually weu

>>149153007
I reinforce floor hatches on hostage only

>>149151617
The majority of them are heavy armor, so they're kind of trash. Not much can be helped unless they give an incentive to actually playing a heavy armor operator since there's a lot of emphasis on roaming and speed.
>Before Dust Line
>FBI medium armor shield recruits were everywhere
>After Dust Line
>FBI heavy armor shield recruits are rarely seen

>>149155276
peekers advantage.
Prefiring the usual suspects spots.

Only times camping in room works out is when you peek them at the moment you don't expect or prefire when they don't expect it.

The dumbest idea is having all team in room with everything reinforced. No defensive position will surivive a full attack on 1 room without a backup plan. Having 1-2 guys ready to hit them from rear when they are busy cracking the shell is a guranteed equalizer.

>>149157895
He's not listening anyway. I suggested having people covering choke points and he goes DURR DURR CALL OF DUTY FUCK OFF.

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>>149155276
a really big fucking kek coming right up

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>>149155276
Cleaning up a room with every single defender in it is actually easier than you think.

>>149159096
this. In some circumstances a pub team could defeat an ESL team that's holed up in objective room.

>>149159679
>gregor has joined the game

>>149159679
>gregor plays prophunt.webm

>>149151617
>Kapkan 3 Speed 1 Armor
>Tachanka gets 1+ Headshot survive ability since to his super soviet helmet
>Glaz gets court marshalled if he stays outside for longer thant 60sec
>Fuze gets his shield removed to people have to be effective and actualy use the Ak

>>149137007
>teamkilling
You deserved it.

>>149160746
>Glaz gets court marshalled if he stays outside for longer than 60 seconds
Glaz is useful as fuck on Chalet though, for two of the major defender locations there's a good chance he can just sit back and snipe entire rooms.

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>solo queued into a team of randoms
>for some reason we keep getting matched against the same team on the same map and the same mode
>3 times in a row
>mfw throughout the entire team we became a cohesive, operative team

We went from barely losing the first game, to winning it 3-0, to winning the last one by 3-0 and not losing a single man on every round.

>>149160746
Make kapkan 2 2

And make fuzes nades work better

>>149162024
>that image

Take those shit tier nigger memes elsewhere.

>>149160746
>Kapkan 3 Speed 1 Armor
>Another roamer light armor operator

>Fuze gets his shield removed to people have to be effective and actualy use the Ak
Keep his shield. Variety is nice for him. Besides, I've noticed people don't pick shields these days.

>>149162629
Mostly because you can just spray in the general direction of their head and 1 pixel is enough to score a headshot

>>149162373
>hates memes
>goes on 4chan
dumb whiteboi

>>149162373
Hate to break it to you, but everythign became shit tier nigger memes the second Twitter blew up. Nothing is sacred anymore.

>>149163213
>facebook memes
>4chan memes

There's a difference. That shit isn't even remotely funny.

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>CSGO clone alive
>Shootmania dead in the water

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Made this as an overview for all types of operators we have alongside how well they perform in their role, with breachers being long / medium / close rather than high / med / low.

And another note on Tachanka. Him being a high lockdown operator is due to his gadget being intended to lock down hallways and areas. But netcode and shit just makes him a sitting duck.

>>149165646
>rook
>low
Are you retarded?

>>149165646
I think it's useless and poorly constructed.
BB is for holding down hallways, even though he has a shield, shields are all different despite them having shields: monty is for intel, defending bomb plants and securing area if enemy has no counter, bb is locking down areas from cover, blitz is for safely engaging single enemies and all but BB are also good at hostage extraction.

Ash is for breaching ceilings, grenade launchers traditional usage, flanking while attacking and breaching from safe distance, sledge is just for bashing everything to change the map layout to your advantage and buck is for a couple of holes in the wall and having a 3rd weapon.
As for roamers, almost anyone can roam.
ETC ETC.
This image is as useful as a graph without labelled axises. You have succesfully wasted your time on informatic that is not informative nor factual nor accurate, that doesn't even take into account any meta. It's a futile pursuit.

>>149166128
I think he means ranges, which is retarded, since their supports are completely different and situational.
If there were 3 times of rooks, ingame rook, rook that can toss armors to others and rook that has a t-shirt cannon it'd make sense, but it doesn't.
This entire thing is nonsensical display of non-intellgient autism

>>149166590
>rook with a T-shirt cannon
Muh sides

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>>149165646
Honestly, the label types shown in the official tips video from the devs are good enough.

>>149168417
>Jäger
>Trapper
isn't he more a supporting role with the denial of grenades flashbangs Ash's grenades and Fuze pucks?

>>149160981
>letting someone do something that would basically lose us the round

>>149170963
You still deserve it for teamkilling.

>>149174067
>"dude your armor is in the way!"
>"I can't place my frost trap"
>"lemme just smack this bro, nbd right?"

>>149174523
Teamkilling is rude, and it strips a layer of your ablative meatshielding away. Let the enemy waste ammo, possibly get injured/killed and give away their position on the teammate instead of killing them yourself.

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>>149174523
>>149160981
>>149170963
Teamkilling is never justified, some people are just stupid or griefing. Just move on with your life

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Russian ops are good.

>teammates pick sledge and buck
>no thermite, no thatcher

I love having three breachers on the team.