Dueling Network General - /dng/

>>148911219

>holy shit, I was being a stupid fuck all the time, i guess I'll make a compromise so I don't look as stupid

fuck off, there's nothing wrong with netdecking and we went through this shit since ages ago

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gibe frog techs

>>148911282
>pol memes
Please.

>>148911370
>There's nothing wrong with stealing ideas and having no skill

Something is wrong with you mate.

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proturprotu

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Waifu.

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>reposted for new thread

quillbolt guy here, i love this chaos.

ive tested the OCG frog builds, they're ok i guess, way less potential to OTK, but rescue rabbit at 3 helps a shit load.

ive made tweaks to my own build, like adding more spells and removing the ice barriers for slime jr, and it works out nicely, except for the whole cant summon non-water monsters with slime jr, that fucking blows.
added psychic kappa just to have another xyz target when under that restriction.

quillbolt stays, jr is another tuner, so if i dont end up using his special summon ability or he stays on the field until next turn (because for some reason i didnt instantly xyz with him), i can abuse quillbolt.

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Xth for Ancient-Eyes Gear Dargon

Could Ninjas work well with Card of Demise? They use a lot of Trap Cards and are able to make plays on the opponent's turn.

>>148911441
Good engineer vs. Bad engineer.copypasta

I know someone has it, post it for me, I need to get something to eat

>>148911441

please stop before you make a fool out of yourself again

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>>148911590
XTH FOR EVIL YUYA

>>148911628
Deck building isn't engineering. Deck building is art.

>>148911713

>deckbuilding is art

I take it back, you're not retarded, you're insane

Be sure to include this in every OP from now on.
Trips active: Valkyrie, Vorcia, pepsicola, Mariomon, King, swamp man, Getter Emperor, Tripfag with Eyes of Blue, NumbersHunter, Evolkaiser, Marzepan, Aquarii Wave, RD4, Diamante, Umehara, DJ Update Guy, Gorz the Emissary of Darkness

Non-trips but may as well be trips tier: Raita, fallguy, empolemew, Iron Core, ManualZion, Narue, me ;)

RIP tier: hippityhoopla, Mr.Vet Sr, scorpion404, Nerffie, neodasus, accel, Blu_Switch, Jmex, joeyjoey, AtmosX, Bboyspiral, Edgar, CDMprompt, Yami Kaiba

>>148911923
You are literally creating something on a blank canvas from nothing. You aren't following an instruction manual.

>>148911923
He's autistic with a special snowflake mentality, just ignore him.

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>>148911698
>yfw ancient gears get tons of support because of yuya

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>>148911392

>>148911934
I'm dead you fucking retard.

>>148911934
add to the list that anonymous is dead >>148912243

>>148912243
Shut up Quadrant 4

>>148911934

literally 3/4ths of the "active" ones are dead

>>148912212
How is this supposed to work exactly ?

>>148911934
I thought swamp man died

>>148911934
>still not on the list
Damnit.
Fucking pepsicola got on the list and not me? I post way more often than he does, and I've been here longer.

https://discord.gg/kTb2r4V

>>148911934
Don't forget Regal.

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XTH for waifus

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>>148911590

I really like this card's totally legit translated name.

>>148912370
The Frog engine makes Treatoad naturally, the R4 engine makes Treatoad via Bahamut. R4 engine helps cover what the R2s can't do easily (like The Lightning), all are water monsters (discards for Swap Frog, most are Salvage targets, and are Moray targets alongside triple Cupidity for consistency), half the deck is spells that are find being banished by Cupidity. The R4 engine is small, but Bubbleman is highly searchable. It's the most consistent Treatoad Turbo deck I've tried, and I've tried a lot.

>>148912570
>boobs
Get this disgusting garbage away from me.

>>148912637
It better be called Andy.

>>148912423
We're not that lucky unfortunately

>>148912637
Andy, the Click Gear Reactor Dragon

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>people think its ok to netdeck
You ever wonder why the fuck the top 8 aren't exactly the same netdecked decks?
Because netdecking alone isn't enough for you to become less shit. You have to know how to play the deck, when to reslond to what and practice with it until its burned into your mind. Only losers netdeck. You people are pathetic. Don't even get me started on the banlist differences and the fact we don't even have every card available loke Japan, as well as the TCG helmet mentality where any faggot is desperate to draw or setup a floodgate or negation. You want to know the truth? You faggots don't know to respond to plays. The moment you get disrupted, you quit like the shitters you are because you rely on your opponent not doing anything other than knowing how to play around them. YOU'RE ALL SHITTERS /dng/. Can't wait to see this board cry when Strike gets hit.

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>>148911934
>Marzepan
uhh you need to update that list

>>148912858
Eh, it'll free to space in my deck for more varied cards. I only run Strike because everyone else runs Strike.

>>148912858

wow

so I was right, the antinetdeck faggot is also the "le OCG doesn't matter" faggot

I'm ashamed that I took you seriously

>>148912858
That's not what that faggot Irish guy says on his video

>>148912534
>>148912897
I will update next time I post it

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>>148912570
why would you ruin perfect traps and stick disgusting lumps of fat onto their perfect flat chests? you disgust me, you waste of organic matter

>>148912858

Are you retarded?

All this tripfag circlejerking has to stop.

>>148913016
Nope. That's not me dude.

Strike isn't even that good. Warning is better.

>>148913101
Of course he is.

>>148913107
just filter diamante

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Here for setdek petdek, Subterrors and Spyrals when and Frog memes
Post Froppy

Abyss Actors are neat, if only for Rise of the Dark Ruler. Hope the effect doesn't change too much

judgment isn't even that good, scolding is better

What are some recommended cards for Glad Beasts, besides the obvious Bestiari?

no I am late to the party.

No more ygopro updates? The OPs link seems pretty old.

>>148911420
What are you crying about now?

>>148913449
gb hunter

>>148911934
Why am I rip?

Scolding isn't even a card, authority is better

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>/dng/ never won worlds
>they also only netdeck
Haha what a coincidence am I right?

Dark Hole isn't even that good of a card, Raigeki is better.

Anyone have any predictions for the banlist?

>>148912897
>trying to make a meme image of your own match
Jesus Christ

what's the point of keeping the name /dng/

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>>148912570
You know that you can find images where they actually are chicks instead of doing these half-assed shops, right? There may not be as many as the trap ones, but they are out there.

>>148913656
you did it backwards anon

>>148913613
>Hoban is shit at the game
>Hoban netdecks
Gotta be a coincidence, right?

>>148913675
Honestly? I expect them to kill the current meta, while letting stuff like Towers and Construct back into the game. I personally want Brionac, but something something degenerate loops.

>>148913720
Easier to search for people that aren't keeping up with every single thread.
What's the point of changing the name?

>>148913780
>Hoban netdecks
Too bad he wasn't following the OCG and scrubbed out like an idiot in the Nekroz format.

>>148913740
where'd you find this one? I generally look at pixiv

>>148913656
Dark Hole isn't even that good of a card, Lightning Vortex is better.

>>148913875
dueling network isn't a thing anymore

it's like refusing to use the name CIA for what was once known as the OSS

Dueling network isn't even that good of a service ygopro is better

>>148913912
Dark Hole isn't even that good of a card, Torrential Tribute is better

>>148913991
>Im going to compare a high federal organization to a web based free card game simulator

>>148914053
In most ways, yes. I will give DN credit for not having a shitty spectator mode.

>>148913697
>trying
you mean succeeding

>>148911934
>>148913583
you also got my trip wrong

>>148913656
I actually prefer Dark Hole because it's more versatile.
I'm also too poor for Raigeki which doesn't help.

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>>148914116
He was talking about the movie character.

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How about this meme build of Frogs?

>>148914272
TELL ME ABOUT DARK LAW
WHY DOES SHE WHERE THE MASK?

>>148914201
Those idea behind those images is that they're people reacting to something they saw you retard, not bragging about something they did.
God damn you are an embarrassment.

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>>148913720
>>148913991
Have some respect for the dead, you fuckin kid!

>>148914116
I literally just did that you fucking retard
if you're not going to contribute then don't post you shitter

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>>148914397
but i like bragging about what i did

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>>148914349
>she

>>148913991
>dueling network isn't a thing anymore
And? What purpose does changing the name serve?

>>148914474
Jesus fuck, just go back to whatever subReddit you crawled out of.

I downloaded YGOpro from the OP and it keeps saying it can't parse the server. It doesn't even let me do AI. I click start and nothing happens. I thought you said it still worked.

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>>148912997
>>148913016
>>148913026
>>148913101

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>>148912858

>>148914528
Yes I know, that makes you an embarrassing faggot.

>>148914715
How the fuck is not caring if strike gets hit bait? I'd personally want to see all the Solemns at 1.

>>148914653
no

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>>148914768
>Yes I know, that makes you a based god

thanks anon

>>148914721
Why isn't every Monarch/Kozmo/BA/PePe deck the same then?

>>148914721
Not only is this a retarded point, but it is also a fucking imgur file. Kill yourself, Reddit.

>>148914332
Hot garbage, 0/10 wouldn't take to petdeck day at locals.

>>148914875
kill yourself spic

>>148913675
Hit to the Brilliant engine by limiting seraphinite
Seriously though I think Tincan will be hit with a limit along with something else in kozmo. Ba will go by with little hits, possibly dante to 2. Monarchs will be hit by something that isn't pantheism in order to curb people back to playing it without the extra deck. I also think DaD will go to 2 along with inzektors and infernity getting everything being brought up by everything going up a peg on the banlist.

What's a good self contained archetype that doesn't rely on too many expensive splash cards?

I got back into the game with raidraptors but I don't know shit about pendulum

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>>148915213
>i love you my caribbean friend
aw thanks anon, means a lot

>>148915518
Pendulum Sorcerers ft Odd-Eyes

>>148915518
Ghostricks, they're basically tier 1 for all intents and purposes

>>148915674
>their basically tier 1
I love spookys but this is incorrect.

>>148915429
There is nothing wrong with Seraphinite. The Brilliant engine should be hit, but the thing that needs to be hit is Brilliant Fusion itself. If Brilliant Fusion were at 2 or 1, nobody would run it because it wouldn't be worth the risk of drawing the materials. Nobody would run it, EXCEPT for Gem Knight decks, who would be running the materials in their deck anyway.
Hitting Seraphinite only harms pure Gem Knight decks.

>>148915574
kys esse

>>148915890
It was a joke. Limiting seraphinite doesn't even do anything to The engine because only decks that can xyz summon with it run 2. your whole comment is spot on though.

>>148915429
That's the kind of logic that got Chicken Game banned while Life Equalizer walked free.

>>148915518
egao.dek
3 Master of Pendulum Structure Decks, some stuff from Starter Deck Yuya, and some singles from SHVI, and you have a cheap but decently effective Pendulum deck for locals. The only card not in Odd-Eyes/Magician/Performapal archetypes in the deck is Majespecter Unicorn, and possibly Magical Abductor, if you play that.

What is the worst eratta Konami has ever printed?

>>148916048
see >>148916043
The first part was a joke. The words "seriously though", was supposed to differentiate the difference. Sorry about the confusion. I thought more people would be confused with my stroke in the second spoiler.

>>148916201
CED

>>148916201
100% Crush card virus

So what do you guys think is the best tech you can put in Metalphosis? I used to really like Ariadne but now im leaning more towards the Qli side, specially since it makes it that much easier to make a turn 1 Alkahest.

>>148916043
Ye I figured you probably were, it was just something I wanted to bring up.

>>148913675

Predictions, or wishlist?

Here's what I'd *like* to see, but my opinion is retarded:

Forbidden:

> Card of Demise
> Elder Entity Norden
> Emergency Teleport
> Fusion Gate
> Kozmo Tincan
> Life Equalizer
> Machine Duplication You know this is going to be the first thing hit after SPYRAL.dek becomes the new Kozmo and needs to be banned
> Magical Explosion
> Majespecter Unicorn - Kirin
> Pantheism of the Monarchs
> Raigeki
> Reasoning
> Royal Magical Library
> Soul Charge
> Wind-Up Hunter

Limited:

> Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End with Errata
> Dante, Traveler of the Burning Abyss
> Domain of the True Monarchs
> Kozmo Dark Destroyer
> Monster Reborn
> PSYFrame-Lord Omega
> Solemn Strike
> Speedroid Terrortop

Semi-Limited:

> Nothing, because the whole premise of Semi-Limited is retarded.

Unlimited:

> Allure of Darkness
> Artifact Moralltach
> Atlantean Dragoons
> Book of Moon
> Bottomless Trap Hole
> Burial from a Different Dimension
> Card Trooper
> Ceasefire
> Charge of the Light Brigade
> Cir, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss
> Compulsory Evacuation Device
> Dandylion
> Dark Armed Dragon
> Dark Hole
> Debris Dragon
> Dimensional Fissure
> Divine Wind of Mist Valley
> Djinn, Releaser of Rituals
> Dragon Ravine
> El Shaddoll Construct
> El Shaddoll Fusion
> Genex Ally Birdman
> Gold Sarcophagus
> Graff, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss
> Honest
> Infernity Archfiend
> Inzektor Hornet
> Mathematician
> Necroface
> Nekroz of Brionac
> Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
> Ojama Trio
> Rekindling
> Rescue Rabbit
> Ring of Destruction
> Ritual Beast Ulti-Cannahawk
> Royal Tribute
> Sangan with Errata
> Summoner Monk
> Super Rejuvenation
> Thousand-Eyes Restrict
> Thunder King Rai-Oh
> Torrential Tribute
> Wind-Up Magician
> Wind-Up Zenmaity

What could possibly go wrong?

>>148914801
>I'd personally want to see all the Solemns at 1.
That would be ideal.

>>148916550
>machine duplication banned
Get the fuck outta here

>>148916550
>Forbidden
>Wind-Up Hunter
why

>>148916550
>soul charge
The fuck? Explain.

>STILL no Fish-type Synchro

>>148916550
>no brionac
Why?

>>148916763

To have unbanned Zenmaity and Magician.

>>148916763
Because he took zenmighty off the list

>>148916823

Soul Charge is a sacky as fuck card that makes stupid boards in the right deck.

Also, I forgot one card for my Forbidden list: Ultimaya Tzolkin

>>148916843
holy shit you are right

fucking Konami, and this is while Fishborgs are a thing

>>148916059
Neat, that sounds very doable.

Like a retard I bought a lot packs so aside from RR I have the beginning of a lot archetypes

>>148916550
Lets be honest here.
Emergency Teleport will maybe go back to limited.
Kozmo Tincan maybe semi at worst.
Dark Destroyer being limited won't hurt anyway being able to search and get it back so easily so it could be considered Forbidden bait but highly doubt it. Since there are other cards in the meta that have practically the same effect but to another archtype so why even?

>>148916550
>Expaning the ban list even further
Kill yourself.

>>148917036
You unbanned reborn though. I would rather run that in any non quasar deck/go first or lose deck than soul charge.

>>148916550
>making this already huge banlist bigger
Fuck that

>>148916849

Brionac already has a replacement with Coral Dragon. If it got an errata to be only once per turn then I would totally put it under unlimited.

>>148917179

Yeah Kozmo hits are kinda up in the air. My reasoning for the ETele ban also was a factor in bringing Cannahawk back to 3.

Tincan I can see at 1 or none really. It does a *lot* of setup for Kozmos. I was also debating on how Kozmotown could be hit, if at all, but I wasn't 100% sure if it'd be entirely banworthy or not.

In any case, I'd say Destroyer banned if Tincan isn't.

>>148916856
>>148916929
Admittedly I didn't read that far when I initially asked.

I wonder if Wind-Ups minus that shit would still be fun today.

>>148915429
>>148915429
DaD will never go to two. They tried that in the OCG and all it went back to 1 immediately the next format.

>>148917354
>>148917232

I have *more* cards moved to Unlimited than I have going *on* the list, idiots. My list actually SHRINKS the F&L list.

>>148917287

My main reasoning for that is that Reborn can only ever revive one. Mostly on there since it seems to be pretty insignificant in the OCG so I figured, what the hell?

Post skull servant decks. I don't give a shit how good it is, I find it fun.

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>>148917617
i have just the thing for you my man

>>148917404
I'd rather have the real thing than Brionac-lite.

>>148917707
>No 13th grave

Shit dek

>>148916550
>all these backrow traps at 3
>nothing to deal with them
You aren't to bright, we already went through a format where they tried that experiment. It was hell.

>>148917454
Really? am I missing something? DaD was strong but right now a lot of times if I put DaD in a deck it's dead a lot of the time and it targets. Is it because you could go for a rank 7 if you open both? I'm not seeing it do much.

>>148917404
To be honest if Kozomtown is hit out of the water then Kozmo decks as a whole will be harder to run since they lose a lot of the floating that they have as well as the ability to cycle cards if you don't like a hand.
Tincan at 1 won't hurt the deck at all really and same with dark destroyer since, and i don't know if anyones realized yet but Dark Destroyer's effect targets a monster which is kinda shitty in this meta really unless I'm failing to see a rule loop that can catch a monster when it's being summoned.

>>148917852

You say that like Twin Twister isn't a thing.

>>148917432
I tried messing with it recently and it seems like shit.

>>148917707
too spoopy

>>148915792
Their win condition is your opponent killing themselves in frustration. That is the ultimate form of victory and therefore makes them tier 1.

>>148915518
Monarchs or Geargia/HERO. All 3 have a structure deck so its cheap to build too.

>148912016
Refusing to netdeck is a sign of a shitter
Solely netdecking is a sign of a shitter. You use established decklists to get a grasp of an archetype before you start experimenting with ratios and techs because you cant build a good deck if you have no idea where to start and its just a waste of time to playtest your shitty build 500 times until you come to the conclusion that you could have just netdecked at the start since the "polished" deck list most likely looks very similar to most topping builds. Also no (You)s for you since I'm dubious whether your trolling or just plain retarded.

>>148918000
Well, that answers that disappointment.

>>148918186
are psy-frames/chainburn tier 1?

>>148916550
>Emergency Teleport

Fucking kozmos, its they fault that my gustos get hit.

>>148917883
Also forgot to mention if dark destroyer is hit they'll just go and use dark eclipser instead even if it doesn't have that pop a monster effect, it's a strong card that can't get targeted with 3000 attack.
That or Dark Planet might get more use in the deck unless kozmotown gets hit hard by the list which ether way if it does it'll fuck the deck in general.

How do I summon infinity in a Traptrix deck

>>148918281
Psy-frames are just plain boring to play against and pretty much never win matches against good players, the new cards might change that though. Same case with chain burn since I generally consider it a free win if I see someone play it. A well built Ghostrick Skellington.dek on the other hand would test the patience of Buddha himself because no matter who wins at yugioh, the opponent still spent 20 minutes of his life not being able to do anything but watch as you search/force them to banish and then setup a board so that you can do exactly the same thing next turn.

>>148918734

Dark Eclipser doesn't float though, that's a huge deal.

>>148918864
Cloudians

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>>148918864

>>148918864
xyz universe?

>>148918864
If you're using a Chronomaly engine you can use Astral Force on Number 36.

>>148918964
At the point of getting Eclipser out if they don't have an answer for it already floating will be the last of the issues. It will still be good just not as good as before.

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>>148916550
>3 Allure
>3 Gold Sarc
>3 Necroface
I don't want half my deck banished senpai.

>>148919459

It's not just banishing, it's deck thinning. Just imagine you get half of Pot of Desire's effect from the opponent, for *free*!

>>148919454
Eclipser doesn't turbo into OTKs like Destroyer does.

>>148919838
Read "Just as good but not as good as before" as in yes, won't do that shit but will keep it good.

>>148919719
>Pot of Desire
oh man it begins

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ban the side deck
limit the main/extra
>b-but muh d rulers
>b-but muh spellbooks
>b-but muh six sams
shut up retard.

FREE SHURIT
FREE CONSTRUCT
UNCHAIN THE CHAIN

>>148920635
>rescue cat
>spellbook of judgement
R E T A R D
E
T
A
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>>148920635
>Rescue cat
thanks!

>>148920635
Absolutely everything you want unbanned is retarded.

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Rate my Dark Magic Harem

i actually think rescue cat final countdown ftk is hilarious since it has like 200 steps and looping pyro clock of destiny 20 times is jank as hell, it's about half as good as looping enterblathnir 40 times to banish your opponent's deck

>>148920635
>Brionac
Thanks, now I can finally attempt to build a memey Ice Barrier deck.

>>148921063
Add some charmers for aditional harem

>>148920635
Brionac can come back with an OPT errata

>>148921737
>errata
What did he mean by this?

>>148921798
So you haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh in the last 2 years?

>>148921912
I have, erratas ruin cards.

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unlimit everything in the main and extra
semi limit everything in the side, except for gransoil, he gets banned, as i forgot him on that first list and hes pretty much only used for janky FTK shit.

>b-but semi limits do nothing!!
>b-but muh yata lock
>b-but muh recycling shitty cards
shut up retard.

>>148921995
shut up retard.

>>148921995
>unban towers

ur fucking dead nerd

>>148922087
shut up retard.

>>148921962
Enjoy no Brionac because it's broken as is.

>>148921995
>unbanning yata
YOU FOOL
YOU'VE MESSED WITH THE NATURAL ORDER

>>148920635
This is an awful banlist. Wavering eyes is cancer in pend mirrors. Dragon rulers can't live with dark matter legal, cat is too insane, zenmaighty can come off if hunter gets banned. Everything else is fine to an extent.

>>148920635

>rescue cat

>seriously unbanning a 1-card FTK

>Cyber-Stein when Metalfoes are about to get released

>Solemn Judgment

>Limiting Beatrice when just limiting Cir + Dante kills Beatrice

>not banning Wind-up Hunter

>being this salty against Nurse Burn

>>148921995
Pretty good, grandsoil isn't a problem card though, and honestly shurit could go to 1 nekroz got power creeped on.

>>148922172
How's Brionac broken?

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Limit the extra and main

Ban the side

>>148922874
lol not gonna happen nerd

>>148922985

>how to detect a salty monarchfag in one step

>no one has limited solemn judgement in any of these
Plebs

>>148923015
I'm just not so delusional to think that dark destroyer will get banned after dante has run free for two years now

>>148923116

It's only a wishlist

I know that Dark Destroyer most likely will go to 1

>not one of these has suggested #unchaining the #chain

>>148923172
Why not just ban Kozmotown?

>>148923107

>muh "get free out of jail" card

fuck off

>>148923239

because in no world is Kozmotown ever going to get banned.

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>All this kirin asshurt
lovin' it

>>148923228
Because everyone agrees that it's a degeneracy enabler that should stay banned

>>148923228

>chain free with even spells and traps floating now

fuck you

>>148911556
Nigga I'd bump Anomalocaris to 2, I doubt you're making 2 Daigusto Phoenix in a game

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>>148920635
>>148921995
ban main/extra
limit side.
clean up list, adding things ive forgotten on to here.
cards that arent in the TCG or arent good until other cards show up, are on here just so i can show my opinion on them before they get here.
not saying they should be instantly hit, though.

>cupidity/desires
you know it has to be done
>red-eyes burn card
it all depends on how consistent that FTK is.
>ancient fairy dragon
everyone who runs it, runs it at one. and ive seen some FTKs that run multiple.
>tzolkin
i love tzolkin, but its time to go.

>>148914332
>regular ass Slime in a without the Level 3 Grayydles
>Moulinglacia with no way to search it
>Brilliant Fusion

>>148923557
phoenix is my main "win condition", combined with cat shark that is.
you'd be surprised at how often it gets solemn'd/bottomless'd.

>>148921063

>3 different DMG arts

>not bumping choco to 3

>Lemon and Apple at 3 at all

>not Magician's Navigate at fucking all

>Konami prints a new keyword: designate
>designating is when you choose a card
>it's not considered targeting
>cards "designate a card and negate its effects, then banish it" start popping up
>yfw

>>148917861
Shaddolls were also wrecking shit at the time, so people naturally started throwing DAD in Shaddoll decks

>>148923613

>Banning that Yang Zing when it's the only way they're even rogue at all

Lord Kek has topped and they haven't

Doesn't that tell you shit?

>>148923889
its a scummy card.

>>148923839
>in 5 years, cards that can't be designated by card effects start appearing
Non merci.

>>148921063

Oh, yeah, also where the fuck is your Dark Magic Veil at 3?

You know, your fucking monster reborn

>>148916550
>but my opinion is retarded:
Well I certainly can't argue with you on that one.

>>148923932
it hurts your feelings?

>>148912858
Nice animation.

>>148924146
no, but ive seen how hard it pluses.

Is there anything that can be done with Abyss Actors? They just seem really janky with no way to set up quickly.

>>148922696
You can send as many cards in your hand as many times as you want per turn and it's a WATER monster. Unrelated to being WATER but people hate Dewloren and Brionac is the better version.

>>148923613
>banning Tzolkin instead of Gofu, the only reason it's relevant in the first place
>banning donglong for no reason
>limiting fucking Uniflora
What the fuck?
>limiting Alternative and Gospel
Tewart please leave.

>>148923935
I non-ironically doubt this game will be manageable in 5 years without a reboot.

>>148920635
>Spellbook of Judgment
Oh god yes please I need to wreck shit with stuncasters agai-
>Card of Demise to 1
Nigga fuck you.

>>148920635
>dark matter rulers
somebody's the retard here

>>148924287

you setup your scales with the performapals and forgo using the level 8 at least until you get your scale 9

>>148924304
>banning Tzolkin instead of Gofu, the only reason it's relevant in the first place
>the only reason it's relevant in the first place
thats funny. you're funny.
>banning donglong for no reason
it pluses too hard by just existing.
>limiting fucking Uniflora
its to clear a path for rescue cat.
>limiting Alternative and Gospel
eventually, but you clearly didnt read my post, did you?

>>148923839
>tfw you designate Kuckzmo Shitting Streets

>>148924525
>Performapals

I swear that that shit can make any deck work.

>>148924287
Pendulum Oscillation runs surprising well with the two Level 4 pendulums

>>148924530
>unironically wanting Rescue Cat back
>banning longdong silver for no reason
>implying any relevant decks would bother summoning Tzolkin without Gofu

>>148924559
Kozmos will be a world superpower by 2020.

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>>148924867
:>

>>148924856
>>148924287
Also Abductor and Superstar work well

>>148924867
Nigger have you heard of Monarchs? They've been splashing Quickdraw to make Ultimaya for months now.

>>148925175
He said relevant.

>>148925175
I said relevant.

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>>148923839
that already exists
it's called "banish 1 card"

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Yugioh is such a fucked up autistic game. The rules are impossible, there's been decades of extreme power creep, and the rules text on many cards is longer than Infinite Jest.

Yet there is something magical about the game. Games are often determined in a flash, like a knife fight. But there's also ridiculous combos that let us summon huge super powerful dragons and robots with gratuitous and epic weeb art. There is no set rotation. That means you can always find a secret tech to catch your opponent off guard. And Konami will often release a handful of cards to help out an old deck archetype like they have done recently with Crystal Beasts and Destiny Heroes.

So maybe MTG is more well designed with its focus groups and huge hierarchies of researchers and developers. Maybe Yugioh is fundamentally flawed. But Yugioh has a soul and style that will never be matched. And that's why we keep coming back.

>>148925978
KILL ME DNG
KILL ME

>>148925978
Go back to /tg/.

>>148925978
>often release a handful of cards to help out an old deck archetype like they have done recently with Crystal Beasts
>Crystal Beasts
>recently

>Page 9

dead as fuck

Anyone have a cubic decklist? I can't find any recent ones.

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>>148928805

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Changing the attack of everything is startlingly fun

>Blaster Knight
>FIRE/7/Pyro/Fusion/Effect/2800/1800
>2 FIRE monsters
>This card is treated as a Dragon-Type monster while in the Graveyard. Once per turn, during either player's turn: you can discard 1 FIRE monster; Destroy 1 card on the field, and if it was a monster, deal damage equal to that monster's ATK on the field. If this card is banished or sent to the Graveyard: You can add 1 "Fusion" or "Polymerization" card from your Deck to your hand.

>>148930130
Source, fag.

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>there are people who don't think this is the best Treatoad build

>>148921995
Why the fuck is charge and summoner monk still at two.

>>148930893
See >>148912212

>>148930917
Because unbanning cards is the last of Konami's concerns.

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>>148931053
Yeah that build is fucking trash m8, Moray of Greed is a meme and Cupidity is annoying as fuck in that deck when you banish the majority of your Ronins. It's alright because Treatoad is a fucking annoying card but my build turbos the fuck out of Treatoad so easily compared to your build, at least when I tried it out. Two Treatoads T1 is common, with up to 2 Solemns or a Vanities set. Obviously I don't always get them but when you get them and the double Treatoad (which is pretty often) it's pretty fucking nice. When I tried out your build I rarely got out the double Treatoad so I feel like it wasn't really as good.

>>148931228
"Them" being the Solemns/Vanities, the Treatoads I get out very consistently, and making R4s using the deck is also super easy with the amount of re-usability you get out of some of your cards.

>>148931228
>moray is a meme
>draw bad hand with 2 non-swap frogs
>reset it
>cupidity rarely banishes a lot of good shit because half the fucking deck is spells you don't care if you banish
You just gotta try it more, senpai. It's really consistent in the long run.

>>148931345
Half the deck is spells, but half of your deck is also monsters. When I ran the build, I just didn't get out T1 two Treatoads very often, while with mine I did. Plus, if your deck somehow does get stopped in its tracks, it can't recovery as easily as my deck can IMO. Not only that, but in the long run, your deck has no real way to survive except for Soul Charge and the double Salvage, but even that can't save you from banishing all of your frogs.

And the Moray is a Meme thing is something I do really think, it looks like a good card but it really doesn't end up being as good as you think it might be, at least that's my experience with the card. You put back two water monsters you don't want and draw three spells you don't want, that's how it felt in your list lol.

>>148931513
I can get out double Treatoad ezpz, sometimes alongside Torrent, usually alongside a set Solemn. I have the same Tincan/IF combo, but I also have the numerous combos I can get from Swap Frog. I usually don't go late enough into a game that I go through ALL my Frogs, but I imagine the Fish build runs out of resources at that point as well.

>>148930893

>No frogs at fucking all

results have shown that the r4 decks are outclassed as fuck at making Treatoad

>>148931679
It's really hard for me to run out of resources when I'm running Salvage and double Emeral. Not only that but grabbing Double Fin Shark is a one card Xyz at that point, usually letting me go into Emeral or another Bahamut to let me get into Treatoad.

>>148931813
Honestly I feel like most Japs just resorted to frogs and haven't thought of anything like this yet, but of course I could be wrong.

>>148931874
Wanna have a mirror match? I can host on Pro.

>>148932016
I guess, but I'm pretty shit at the game and don't play that often so I'll probably make mistakes. In any case, what's your IGN?

>>148931874
frogs have already proved they can top, the only problem is that everything else can top more consistently.

i dont want to be the guy who says "if the other decks got hit, frogs would be T1", but it might be that way.

>>148932072
I mean, I don't think Frogs can't top. They obviously have, but I still haven't had success with any of the other builds I've seen on here compared to the one I run. It just feels really consistent, although maybe since I value consistency over other things that might be affecting my opinion a bit too much.

>>148932059
Just look for 'dng' on US server, locked rooms, hopefully by now you know the pass.

>>148932169
it has to do with R4 and light being easy things to make a deck for.
R2 hasnt been the easiest thing to deck build for, but burgesstomas will help that a bit, and more testing, of course.

but i shouldn't have said "the only problem", as there are others.

Raging Tempest
Releases October 8th
143 Yen/pack, 4,290 Yen/box

Set Content Description
New cards used by characters from the Arc-V anime, such as Tenjoin Asuka/Alexis Rhodes, Tenjo Kaito/Kite Tenjo, Yugo, and Yuya’s Entermate/Performapals!

Support for themes from past sets, like Ritual Beast and Chaos Soldier/Black Luster Soldier decks!

Includes a set balanced with cards that both fans of the anime and competitive players can enjoy!

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>>148933391
>they make another new BLS that STILL can't be pre-prepped
I just want to prep the black bull

>>148933391
>Alexis Rhodes
CYBER ANGELS CONFIRMED
>Ritual Beast
DT3 CONFIRMED STILL GOING ON
>Chaos Soldier/Black Luster Soldier
THATS ok

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>>148933391
>Yuya’s Entermate/Performapals!

>>148933391
>Ritual Beast
NEW
NOIDS
SOON
GET FUCKING READY

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>>148933391
>Black Luster Soldier

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That TT misplay I did in the third game really sucked lol. Also >siding against a no-side deck

>File too large (file: 3.01 MB, max: 3 MB).

Fuck you moot.

>>148933926
Yeah I can't get G3 down to less than 3MB. But good games man. Do you see what my build's about now? I didn't even get to Swap Frog combo ;-;

>>148934291
Not really, you opened up pretty damn badly in most of your games from what I could tell. That might have been just chance though, I don't like your build but I will take back that I said it's shit, obviously it can't be shit if it's Treatoad turbo lol.

Still, GGs.

>>148934391
We'll just have to agree to disagree :^) GGs

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>>148933391
RITUAL BEAST SUPPORT FINALLY

>>148933626
I thought ritual beasts were only getting support because they were the last survivors after everyone killed eachother during the tierra bit.

except construct apparently who ate tierra's corpse and became dark ptolmao

>>148936312
i thought that was those gishki fuckers when sophia destroyed everything, and they became the nekroz.

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>Tewart will never stop censoring good art

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quillbolt was xyz material for 5/6 of the xyz shown.
the 6th one being f0.
saying a card isnt good because it might possibly be good in only one circumstance is not a good argument for why it is bad.

at any point in this xyz spam i could have easily turned the graydle slime jr i was using for the quillbolt abuse and a burgesstoma into treatoad for negation, but wasnt needed because the heraldic AI isnt that great at defending attacks.

There are three things I really like about this game: Machines, gimmicky cheese decks, and random-ass techs.

So, anyone gotten an Ancient Gear deck with Knight and Gemini spark to work yet? I've messed around with a SKYFIRE deck recently but that random post the other day really makes me want this to work.

Yes, I'm a complete and total shitter.
>inb4 just run gimmick puppets

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>>148933391
>saving Blue-Eyes for last again

>>148937895
Try karakuri crystrons, it plays a few ancient gear cards

if you really want to play ancient gears then wait till they show the remaining cards for the structure deck R they're getting

>>148939339
Do you have a decklist? Not him.

Is Rank-Up-Magic Astral Force an efficient method to bring out Cyber Dragon Infinity in ABC's?

>>148939619
astral force needs the same type and attribute.
the only light machine R4s require specific archetypes to rank up into at nova.
if you're talking R5, you might as well just make nova.

so no.

>>148939839
You use Nyarla

>>148939864
true, but that takes up more extra deck space than necessary, and requires you to run a RUM card.
it would be better to use galaxy soldier in that situation.

>>148939839
Astral force in constellars then?

>>148940003
What? You already run Nyarla if you use Azathoth.
You can run it alongside Galaxy Soldier aswell for potentially 2 Cyber Dragon Infinities.
Also, what's bad about running a rank-up-magic card if it almost always live.

>>148940118
constellars can already play panzer dragon in combination with kaus to make pleiades, or with zuben to make infinity.
seems like a higher brick chance to add something that specifically requires you to make praesepe, a card that generally isnt used.

>>148940140
thats if you want to take up ED space with azathoth though.
RUM cards are hardly played at all, specifically in the meta, because they generally arent searchable. (except in the case of launch, which is better than astral force due to being a searchable, less restrictive quickplay)
plus, any ED space used for nyarla/azathoth could have been taken up for a backup R5, or more R4s, which the deck seems to utilize in the OCG more often than not.

>>148940570
The OCG runs Azathoth in most builds though, and you can just put the second Cyber Dragon Infinity in instead of Exciton Knight.
It doesn't matter if Astral Force isn't searchable, it just makes getting out Cyber Dragon Infinity more consistent.

>>148940756
adding a non searchable spell doesnt really make it more consistent to bring out a monster, especially if that monster both takes up space and removes access into a more easily summoned monster.
if you play both azathoth and nova/infinity, then to access both you need 2 nyarla, thats 5 ED space for going into 2 cards, 2 of which arent going to be very consistent to go into.

>>148941025
You don't need to access both in a single game.
Also post what you think the extra deck should be like for TCG with the current banlist. Assume we have nyarla/azathoth by INOV

>>148941253
you can start by clicking the fucking sort button

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Hydrogeddon

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Oxygeddon

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>>148944223
Most useless effect ever?

>Support for themes from past sets, like Ritual Beast and Chaos Soldier/Black Luster Soldier decks!
>Chaos Soldier/Black Luster Soldier decks!
Please no. Just give up. You tried and you failed.

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>>148944534
Could be worse

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>>148943314
>>148944223
>>148944424

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>>148945446
Water Dragon

>>148945576
God, the GX era was awful. At the very least gimmicky shit nowadays can sack a win sometimes. Although do I remember people using Hydrogeddon.

>>148945321
I.. uh..

I know these cards are old but it still boogles my mind, even in newer sets there's those one one-of absolutely terrible cards.

Do they print them just to fill space, or do they legitimately believe that someone somewhere will find a use for it

>>148923718
But anon, Brilliant Fusion is an instant Dark Hole Giant Trunade.

>>148945785
Hydrogeddon's pretty ok
>Level 4
>WATER so it can into Bahamut Shark
>Dinosaur so it can into Evolzars
>Can possibly 3 mat quickly
Though
>1600 atk
>Has to attack a monster and send it to the graveyard to do shit

>>148946116
Reverse Trap

>>148945785
Exa-Beetle, Equip this, Rank-up to Digital Bug/ use eff, results in instant 3 lvl 4.

>>148946241
Hydrogeddon was the shit back in the day. Literally 2 free monsters just for killing weak shit like fearmonger in battle

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ABC tops update and yeah, like I said previously, I think after a couple more tops, I'm just going to stop updating. ABCs don't look to be changing all that much and it'd just be tedious trying to account for EVERY single build that tops.

Given that I think I'll finally be able to focus on Metalfoes and Blue-Eyes tops compilation (oh boy...)

>>148911282
>Still calling it Dueling Network General

Did you guys think the new legendary decks will have the legendary dragons and black stone of the legend? Should I wait to buy my Red-Eyes deck?

>>148946116
tourguide target :^)

>>148949459
That last deck, man.
>16 monster only, only 1 of each gadget
>4 of which is a handtrap
>3 pseudospace
>scrap dragon, no omega
And I've seen some decks siding only 1 Lector while running Cupidity. Is he even searchable?

>>148949459
>Metalfoes
What is the mainline build of it in OCG anyway?
I just can't seem to play or build it right.
What is it's winning condition anyway?

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>>148950242
Lector actually happens to pop up quite a bit, and its main use is just a kind of generic FUCK PENDULUMS card that most other decks kind of throw in. Updated Infernoids

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>>148950341
There is no maniline OCG build for Metalfoes. There's certain ratios that are stable but everything else is mostly techs or jank tech. This is just one type of build that Metalenemies goes for

>>148950397
No, I understand why Lector is sided. What I don't understand is why only side 1.
Just look at that infernoid deck. Reasoning, Monster Gate, 3 Cupidity, and only 1 Lector, and 1 Wavering Eyes.
If it's searchable somehow, then it's all good, but with how much that infernoid do random milling, I don't think so.
Why did people siding only 1 copy of unsearchable cards anyway.

>>148950341
Metalfoes are jank.dec, pick your favorite memes and roll with them.

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>>148950706

Flip dimension barrier, call XYZ

oh hey look my boss monster actually gets to survive this turn because i don't need to deal with R4NK.

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>>148950706
Edge

>>148950397
what is the non infernoid fusion everybody is running?

>>148951386
Elder Entity N'tss

WHO PALADIUM HERE?

How is PK fire better than regular BA? shit keeps bricking on me

>>148952005
Post brick hands.

>>148952005
because fog blade is a good card

>>148951926
Darklords are apparently.

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>>148951926
>>148951926
meme names aside, when are we going to get an actual theme that revolves around the chemical periodic table?

>>148952514
We have that somewhat in Chemical Beasts....y'know, that shitty Gemini archetype that Konami completely squandered

>>148933391
2nd round of legacy support confirmed.

Getting hype for Blue-Eyes and DM in the future

>>148952591
>gemini
no wonder I never heard of it

>>148944570
Fuck that I'd rather have them try and fix their mistakes

>more support for Chaos Form

Hope they make it at least playable like Red-Eyes this time

>>148953025
>implying we won't just get absolute garbage, like always

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>>148952691
It definitely says a lot that Konami wasn't able to make a good Gemini archetype

They were able to make traditional Fusions archetype good (Shaddolls) also counts for Flips
They've made several contact Fusion archetypes good (Glad Beasts, Ritual Beasts)
They've made several tribute summon archetypes good (Qlis and Monarchs)
They've made a Ritual archetype good (Nekroz)
They've even made a Union archetype good (ABCs)

But they completely and utterly FAILED at making a Gemini archetype good, and I sincerely doubt they're going to try again. They've made pseudo-Spirits good (Yosenju) but while they've made some decent Spirit support in the last couple of years, they still haven't tried to make a straight up Spirit archetype yet. That being said, I won't hold my breathe for whats in store for Raging Tempest

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>>148952738
You can't just fix mistakes like this. And it's not even the only mistake they've done with the new Chaos cards. They're just that garbage.

>>148953138
Then just make something good that completely ignores it then.

>>148953126
What kills Geminis is that they're not treated as normal monsters at all times when not double summoned.

>>148953126
the whole gemini mechanic of having to waste the normal summon on a monster already on the field is hot garbage and just hurts it more than it helps compared to all you listed and more