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Svipuls and ECM edition.

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Read the UPDATED /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ser9Acpg

>Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Soon, new shekels madness with cerebral free SP and stuff snek themed.
>Did you forget to do your dailies?
>Cap changes, fighter changes and legal drugs: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6523897#post6523897
>June 28th Sneks Supers and Titans: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/shadow-of-the-serpent-signal-the-dawn/
>Winter: new "drilling platforms"
>Fall: new "industrial arrays", barge reworks, AOE BOOST/LINK REWORK, Rorqual rework
>Summer: citadel iterations + contracts
> Alliance Tournament 14 Announced https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/signup-and-rules-atxiv/

Past:
>May 31: RIP old camera, new multi-use analyzers introduced
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>May 24: DO YOUR SP DAILIES
>May 12: Name ships automatically with a saved fit name
>May 06: Eve Online 13th Anniversary
>Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released. Tears, bugs, etc. RIP rolling yachts.
>Apr 21: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-11-election-results/
>Mar 09: Massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits.
>Feb 18: Last CSM X Summit: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-second-csm-x-summit-meeting-minutes-included
>Feb 09: SP trading
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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Jamyl Sarum
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ecm is fine
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>>148908035
YOU LITERALLY CAN't DO ANYTHING
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>>148908035
>>148908216
YEAH YOU LITERALLY CANT EVEN BREATHE WHILE YOU'RE ECM'D LOOK AT BIG MIKER HE GOT ECM'D IN HIS SHIP AND NOW HES DEAD BECAUSE THE HOSPITAL COULDN'T SAVE HIM BECAUSE THEY WERE TOO BUSY PLAYING POKEMON GO AND RAN OUT OF REVIVES.
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>POKÉMON GO
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>ecm is broken
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Just remove ecm and let cal/gal share damps. They already share hybrids so who cares.
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>>148909575
That would have been a cool idea if there was a hotkey or something to reconnect to drones
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>>148909575

he should be fired for that tweet alone
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He should be fired for using twitter.
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you guys should be fired from 4chan
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It was nice knowing you /vg/
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tfw you almost awox your own fleetmate
twice

just end it all
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>>148913459

story
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>he is in a corp
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>>148913495
was shooting citadel
bored and fucking around, shot dude when i mean to cycle launchers on the citadel (1/3 armour)
then later
citadel blows up while I have everything hidden (ctrl-f9 and first person mode, racing around the citadel, fight me) and i cycle guns on a confessor I had locked for mystery reason (into structure)

neither died though so i guess its ok
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totally new player here, just did the tutorial stuff

when should i start trying to get a new ship and stuff, the pastebin wasn't super helpful for non-pvp
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>>148914884
Any time you like.

So I assume the tutorial gave you a destroyer of some kind so you can really start there. Level 2 missions give pretty good rewards and they're doable in your destroyer
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>>148915316
It did not give me a destroyer or anything else.
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>>148915490
oh shit, I thought it did

Did you do the Advanced Military missions? I think it gives you one there
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>>148915560
I saw nothing about that, just listened to the bitch until she said "That's all I got, peace."
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>>148915654
oh well what ever

You can train into your new ships when ever you feel. You should have the ability to fly a frigate and destroyer so you can buy a destroyer any time you want, equip 8 of those frigate guns on it and go to town.
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>>148915654
you have to coninue by finding a career agent. youre supposed to have picked a career path at that point, but the tut alone hardly makes one able to make a wise decision here. just watch one of the eve meme videos we throw around and then decide what you want to do
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>>148916107
ah, that looks promising

the career agent menu is pretty tough to find if you only vaguely know what you're looking for
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so any thoughts on amarr ships from you guys?

still haven't decided on what i want to be doing yet, but I was looking at the drone ships and that seemed pretty neat
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>tfw 20k ehp hyperspatial wreathe
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>gif
>2016
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>webm
>180*170
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Webm is only good for high resolution stuff or anime. Literally nothing wrong with reaction gifs.
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>OK we need to warp off we're not winning
>POINTED
>goodbye anon
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Post some EVE webms niggers.
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dude wreathe lmao
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>Kill an angel with a rookie ship
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>>148919004
hunter is cute!
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Does getting donated game time on an account show up in the api of that account?
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>>148920332
Hi, awoxer! :)
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What did CCP break this time?
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someone post the faction cap battery
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>>148921258
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>>148921258
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>>148921391
good idea anon
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Tiericide of missile skills when?As an example, why does rockets and light missiles need to be separate skills when small rails and small blasters are just under small hybrids?
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>>>wsg/1195026
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>>148924215
can you link correctly please

also can someone drawn sansha-chan in ms paint
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>>148926821
steiner go and stay go
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>>148927331
but thats AB

>>148926821
I never got wtf does that fist mean? Same in command processors.
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>>148927331
>Warp Scrambler
>II
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>giving a single fuck about inner sphere affairs
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Coolest crystal
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>>148927620
blue/yellow power
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>she is a filthy clanner babby scum
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>stabber
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>>148933018
Not Reyni, doesn't have a disgusting subhuman nose ring.
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R8
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>There are people who unironically enjoy exploration.
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>made a contract for a rigged Rokh for 240M
>a Russian haggles in a broken English with me for 230M
>tell him it's a contract
>he raises to 235M
>tell him it's a contract
>he rage-quits the convo
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>russian
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>>148937968
scorpion
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>>148937968
snek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>148937351
>own rorqual
>put on public contracts for 2.5b
>faggot tries to haggle me for 1.8b
>tell them to fuck off
>someone else buys it the next day
>mfw
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>>148938218
>tfw literally never haggle.
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>>148938029
>>148938130
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>>148938406
Nice hacked rom, faggot.
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/55175761/
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>>148939056
top kek
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Did the launcher shit itself again?
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>>148939056
>plate + rep
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>>148946387
Thats the least shit thing on that fit.
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>try fitting a navy bs
>remember that pirate bs are better and cheaper
>kill self irl
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>>148952553
fleet tempest
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What's an explorer fit that can survive being attacked by a random Astero?
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>>148956203
a Warp Drive Active fit
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>flying unskinned ships
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>>148961539
I wish torps were fucking usable but they aren't. Hell can anyone think of anything torps ARE good for that aren't stealth bombers?
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>>148961595
before ccp nerfed the visual effects they used to be good for looking cool
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>>148961686
>>148961595
They used to be AoE which was their primary advantage. CCP removed this because what fucking ever.

If you could shoot a torpedo and damage other shit around it, they'd be super useful for clearing drones off a ship or hitting frigs that are hugging other ships
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>>148961761
to be fair that is fucking retarded, most people just want them to be like other weapons except not garbage
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>>148961856
Sure it was gimmicky but it was literally the only reason people used them.
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>>148939056
>>148941794
>>148946387
AHAHAHA YOU JUST GOT PRANKED BRO ROFLLLLLLL
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>>148961595
cyka blyat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06SgkN1C16s
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>>148963279
>rattlesnake
>for belts
>not havens or sanctums
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>>148961901
>>148961856
problem is missiles as a whole are a braindead offensive system. you just pew shit and the only variable is the sig radius and speed. You literally can't make tropedoes or higher tier missiles better because there is just no room to make them worse in other aspects.

the only thing you could do is make them travel super slow but still apply well - which is a shite mechanic as well

fuck missiles mane
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>>148963357
Watch the video.
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>>148963389
slow travel time is a shit meme, but other than that missiles are ok. some are too good some are too bad
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>>148963650
torps have less range than HAM's
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>>148963389
>you just pew shit and the only variable is the sig radius and speed
I like how shitters don't know that missiles have hidden falloff at the end of their nominal range where they have a chance to miss, or rather disappear.
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>>148963715
no they have the same range. they should get 50% longer desu

though I'm not a fan of range bonused mid range memes from short range weapons

>>148963773
this doesn't really matter
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>>>/v/345553801
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>>148963828
>this doesn't really matter
It matters a lot for ships with a bonus to missile velocity.
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>>148963984
you mean flight time
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>>148963650
Torps have worse application than cruises surprisingly.

They have similar explosion velocities but the cruises have way better explosion radius, almost 30% better.

While torps do quite a bit more damage (555dps vs 399 cruises) but only have 30km range, they're also incredibly slow. Cruise Launchers reach out to 220km holy fuck and apply a lot better

Also I realized that torps use fuck tons more fitting for no apparent reason.
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>>148964121
>>148963984
It matters especially with HAM's, HAM's have no range and its the range bonus that gives them the (even short still) 30km range otherwise they'd be pretty useless
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>>148908005

>
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>jamal serum
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>>148964487
DED 9/11
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>>148964301
it doesn't matter what your range is, it matters what your flight time is if you want to sperg out about muh rng esports disappearing missiles
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>>148963963
>no one mentions Eve: Online

mfw
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>>148964826
But it does though, because bonuses to velocity and bonuses to flight time both affect range.

If you fire at something that is near the edge of your missile range theres a good chance 25% of them will disappear
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>>148964853
>no one
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>>148964981
like 2 people arguing about which looks closest to Eve, a zoomed out picture or a literal spreadsheet.

what a great word-of-mouth.
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>>148964971
that's not how it works, and you're describing this like it's some kind of problem, which it's not
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>>148964121
No, I mean missile velocity. Missile flight time is always full seconds, and the fractional part of the calculated missile flight time is basically a chance for missiles to fly a full second longer. So if your eft/pyfa tells you that your missiles fly 7.6 seconds, what it actually means is that your missiles have 100% chance to fly 7 seconds and 60% chance to fly 8 seconds. This doesn't matter too much if the missile velocity is low, but if we take a look at e.g. All 5 Orthrus with RLMLs, CN ammo and a t2 hydralic rig, its actual range varies from 3x20250=60750m (100% chance) to 4x20250=81000 (75% chance). So it hits at 61 km with 100% dps and at 81 km with 75% dps, despite eft/pyfa telling you that the range is fixed at 75.9 km.

>>148965495
>that's not how it works
Except this is exactly how it works you ignorant shitter.
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>>148966030
>25% might disappear if you have a velocity bonus

is not how it works

>your wall of text

is how it works

and there's nothing wrong with it, so I don't know why we're talking about it
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>>148965168
>word of mouth
>word of mouth on 4chan
>word of mouth on /v/

I am perfectly ok with eve having a bad rep on 4chan. Stay away from my spaceship game you fucking autists.
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>>148966594
But /v/ is full of normalfags.
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>word of mouth
>in imageboards
Enjoy getting called a shill
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>>148964487
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>>148966821
I said autist as more of a general term for all of 4chan. If I wanted to play with a bunch of meme spouting ironic shitposters, I'd join PL. At least /eog/ is aware of how fucking retarded it is.
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>>148936208
pls respond you fags
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>>148936208
why a nanofiber instead of a 3rd inertial stab?

Also you should be doing the MWD trick since you'll align a whole 2 seconds quicker with it
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>>148967358
looks fine

you'd best be overheating those hardeners if you get into some shit though, the overheat bonus is where the tank comes from. use all actives and overheat everything
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>>148967671
Isn't agility also good for aligning? Not just inertia?

>>148967687
It tanks 2,2k with both invulns overheated.
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>>148967969
Agility is used interchangeably with reduced inertia modifier.

Nanos will also reduce align time, but not as much as inertial stabilizers will. They are, however, useful for crashing gates.
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>>148967080

>
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Can you do the mwd cloak trick with a mjd?
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>mwd cloak trick
>with mjd
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>>148967969
>Isn't agility also good for aligning? Not just inertia?
inertia and agility are the same in this game.

Inertial Stabilizers increase inertia modifier.

Nanofibers give "agility modifier" which is the old way of saying "inertia modifier" because they're the same.

Generally DST's are so heavy that your align is mostly meaningless since the 10mn AB or 50mn MWD trick is always faster
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>>148968640
no, the MJD will cancel when the cloak kicks in or it won't let you cloak I can't remember which
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>>148969501
Damn. If it were possible it would actually make DSTs usable outside of hisec.
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>>148968540
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What is the point of not being able to scan blockade runners' cargos? The very purpose of them is to transport valuable cargo, and once they appear they are kill on sight anyway, no questions asked.
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>he doesn't troll with veldspar runners

>>148970185
Good idea(tm) by ccp
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>>148969638
you can still do the mwd cloak trick m8 stop being gay
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>>148970580
It sounds rather cool on paper, having an unscannable cargo bay

But in practice it just makes your ship kill on sight, no matter the contents
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>>148970704
Bubbles
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>>148970947
>I'm not bubble immune so I won't even undock

pls
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>>148971063
But it isn't immune. That!s why the mjd would be for.
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>>148971390
you have enough mids to do both. But remember if you're scrammed you can't use either your MWD or MJD. This is why I use the 10mn AB with a MJD because at least if I'm scrammed I can still move
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>10
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>>148970781
I never been killed with my blockade runner
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>>148970781
The unscannable cargo doesn't help you much at all ever. There's no strict advantage
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>>148970781
>>148976368
okay but whoever ganks you is taking a larger risk than if they just cargo scanned you

it doesnt help you much because of the retarded shit people put in their blockade runners
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Why not use an Orca? Best hauler desu
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>>148976730
Your BR is over 150m and it's paper thin

A gank tornado is worth like 110m so it's always worth it to gank your shit even if you have nothing

Concord and faction police can see inside your BR regardless of scan immunity so you can't tote drugs aroubd
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drugs are legal now m8
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>>148981068
why would I?
I have a freighter, a BR and a DST.
Orca fits in the middle somewhere and has the same cargo as my DST (20k+40k m^3 cargohold with a proper tank fit) while being slower and unable to cloak-mwd. I don't move enough ships for the maintenance bay to be worth it either.

>>148981383
>muh killboard
you cant pay for more nados with kb stats, retard
>drugs
legalised now/soon.
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>use Orca
>get doomsdayed
no
blockade runners are still safer and better
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>>148982307
>>muh killboard
>you cant pay for more nados with kb stats,
Who cares? The ganker sure doesn't. He ganks a ship worth more than his and he's isk positive even if your shit is empty
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>>148982345
You can't doomsday an orca
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>>148982843
That's the joke.

It's not a very good joke.
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>>148982843
Proofs?
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>>148982345
>trying to start this shitposting spree

>>148982843
>taking bait
newfag detect

>>148982727
>m-muh isk positive
>muh killboards
biomass.

>>148983020
heres your (You)
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>killboards
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>Like 30 ship losses. 3 of which in PvE, one to CONCORD.
>Podded half a dozen times.
Which PvP corp should I try to join?
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>>148984471
All-Out
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>>148984471
Forgot to mention!
I destroyed 0 ships and killed nobody according to EvE. Though somehow I have a corpse in storage and I'm pretty sure I participated in successful PvP roams a couple times.
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>>148985024
EVE only logs finishing blows.
To see the kills you participated in, check your killboard.
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>>148985520
Ah, then. I webbed(+probably scrambled) a Tengu worth a bil that was blown up by my fleetmates. Go me, I suppose. I personally did 0 damage.
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>>148983106
Why are you having such a hard time realizing that a ganker doesn't give a shit if you have nothing in your cargo he'll shoot at you regardless

The same way that retards double wrap their contracts just makes them a huge gank target even if that double wrap has nothing in it
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>you might die sometimes
>people are all upset about this
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>>148986134
Thats why we have zkillboard
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>>148986557
That was according to zkillboard.
I'm just a fucking shitter. I'll find heavy duty rope and go hang myself. brb
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>>148987176
tackle is always needed despite what some may say (just dont join phorde)

join all-out
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>>148986134
You can fly nothing but interceptors and still be legitimately useful, good tackle pilots that don't get themselves killed are valuable.
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I've never been killed in my blockade runner. I've transported 1.4 bil in compressed ore literally dozens of trips.Mines properly tanked, I use insta dock/undocks, I mwd/cloak, and I don't fuck around at all while moving shit, I also do it late at night.
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>>148988082
I've done the same in my DST through low/null.

hauling isn't hard if you aren't retarded and don't panic.
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>>148989137
I have a jf so I don't even tough my day unless I have somethibg unusually large for Highsec too big for a blockade runner and too small for a freighter to be appropriate
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>>148988082
This makes hauling sound so exciting but I know from experience that it is more boring than mining.
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>>148919004
This webm alone just makes you want to live in the drone regions!
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>tfw r/eog is dying
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>>148987753
I might just do that.
Is it a problem if I get mad and sad when I lose ships?

I was thinking of looking for a wormhole corp anyway. Are they actually still active or is it dead like everything else?
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>>148994302
The more you play the less your minor losses will bother you.
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>>148994302
idk what you consider everything else; eve activity often slumps in the summer. we're doing stuff. tim's coming back in about a week with more time to fc apparently. dunks happen every day.
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>tim
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>>148994486
The "don't fly anything you can't afford to lose!!1!!" thing got to me way too hard, I feel like I can't afford to lose anything.
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>>148994916
Then fly cheaper fits or get better at making money.

You will never be able to improve if you aren't willing to lose ships.
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>>148994916
you could lose 15 frigates fit for a cost of 2 million and come only equal to the price of 1 fully t2 fit cruiser for 30m

its not that big of a deal. "don't fly what you can't afford" is a lesson used to tell shitters who fly big 4b isk ships and cry when they lose them that theyre shit and they shouldn't have flown it
>>
>>148982727
But they do care.
Killing something 30mil more expensive than your ship does not translate to good KB stats, and they need to score good kills if they want to continue their ganks without having to plex or grind elsewhere.
>>
>>148994302
>>148994916

you'll learn not to get mad and sad when you lose ships, especially when you get mad rich from exploration/sleepers/blingy kills

we're pretty active but as >>148994661 said we're in a bit of a lull because of summer. shit still happens though so its ok.

i used to be exactly the same, feeling like i can't afford to lose shit and being a risk averse mofo (and it cost me killmails) but im fixed now

>>148995580
>replying to the kbtard
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>dual rep
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>>148967140
>/eog/
>aware of how fucking retarded it is.
>>
>You can fit almost any ship like this and not have a problem speed tanking.
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>>149001470
>he fell for the speed tanking meme
>>
incoming shitposts
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>Kill 10 drifters
>Kill a Drifter in a frigate
>Kill 5 sleepers
>All nearby observatories have unidentified wormholes

JUST
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>>149001470
thats pretty garbage, try to get a 400mm on there because 200mm's are shit
>>
>400mm on a Rifter

K. Y. S.
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>54
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>>149002354
>lemme use a plate thats on par with a small shield extender
>>
>>149001470
>mixing shield and armor
>no scram
>tracking enhancer instead of gyro
>>
>>149002756
>he thinks you need the tank of a brawling ship and you are going to be kiting

let me guess, you have a 60% killboard ratio
>>
>>149002956
>trying to kite
>dual armor
>no disruptor
>shield and armor
>tracking enhancer
>>
>>149003121
you say that as if there is something wrong with any of them
>>
>>149003268
>I'm trying to PVP
>but I don't have a module to keep my enemy still
>I want to kite but am using an armor plate which kills my speed and agility
>I'm mixing armor and shield
>I'm using a TP instead of a warp disruptor so now I can't keep my enemy still at all
>I'm using a tracking enhancer I don't need instead of a gyro to give me more DPS that I do need.

garbage fit 0/10 not even trying, bait
>>
>>149003650
>not trying to bait
>in a PvP-only game

>wants to kite
>recommends 400mm plate

>recommend useless disruptor over a mod that applies more
>people never warp away even when not pointed

are you even trying?
>>
>>149004134
So what is stopping your enemy from just warping away?

Whats stopping a faster ship from catching you or a ship like a beam tormentor from fucking you up?
>>
>>149004269
>So what is stopping your enemy from just warping away?

their idiocy. I double web all the time, majority of people never warp away
>>
>>149004429
>I'm counting on people just not warping away
people don't warp away because they see they're webbed but they don't look to actually see a warp disruptor

you on the other hand have no web, no warp disruptor, nothing to fool people into thinking they are webbed or scrammed
>>
>>149004652
the fit isn't fine tho
>>
>>149004874
The fit is garbage

a real kiting rifter would use a disruptor to force a commit then just orbit at 20k and rip the shitter to death with artillery.

Drop the fucking 200mm plate, its pointless, drop the aux because its pointless when you aren't running a fucking plate.

replace with a gyro and nanofiber
>>
>rifter
>>
>>149005029
actually just playing with the rifter you can't even get artillery to fit, its too much fitting and not enough CPU for everything else

fuck this and use a slasher or an artillery claw or something
>>
>>149005685
also even if you pretend it has infinite fitting and put everything on it you want, it's shit
>>
Why the fuck are small ancil armor reppers 6 fucking million isk holy shit, none of the other ancil reppers are this expensive at all
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>its another 'you're the only person online' episode
>>
>>149006472
>ccp says they move them to data sites to make data sites more appealling
>mfw I've not found any at all
>>
>>149006581
more like people still don't do data sites because they aren't fucking worth it.

the price on these things has done nothing but go up and up and up. Just 2 months ago they were 3 million up from just 500k 4 months ago
>>
>>149006670
I think ccp accidentally removed them or something. I'd be doing data sites if they had a shitload of small ancil bpcs
>>
>ccp fozzie posting on leddit instead of eog
>>
>>149009496
why would he ever post on a retarded site like this
>>
>eog
>not the best place to discuss eve
>>
>dogs
>will smith
>and anime wolf girl

>best place ever
k
>>
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>dogs
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