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>>148862830

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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>>148898465
Thanks op now I have to fap
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnphNbo24oY

Dark Souls 3 Trolling Symbol of Avarice

>4 guys doing the same thing int he same costume
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>>148899027
Please don't shill your shitty videos. Nobody here is going to watch them just because you posted them at the beginning of the thread
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>>148899370
why do you keep posting this?
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>>148899428
Hes a faggot
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>diminishing returns on absorption
>poise working as intended
>fatroll fat as ever while normal roll OP as shit
>split equip load into its own stat
>marginal as fuck benefit per point spent in vit
This is the kind of shit where it makes me question if the developers even fucking played their own game. Heavy armor has diminishing returns and extra armor is negligible, poise doesn't work, fat roll is suicide, and to get all these amazing disadvantages you have to further disadvantage yourself investing in a shitty stat. What fucking part of any of this makes sense?
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Does two handing weapons grant you better attack modifiers, or just the 1.5 str?
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>>148899370
what did I just watch
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>>148899428
Because it is helpful for a boss that is actually hard.
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>>148900036
but why are you posting it
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>>148899370
Holy shit. That boss uses the Sif attack animations.
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>>148900361
because it is the one that people have the issues with and ask about most often
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>>148899736
Yes, it grants better modifiers too. Even weapons with little/no STR scaling get better damage per hit 2-handed.
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reminder that this video is more interesting than lucifer's webm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAu53AJ_Pyg
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>>148906654
This one too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOQdEvzDfVY
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Is we dies?
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>>148909387
Quick! Someone! Link the Flame!
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>tfw everyone hates das3 so they quit playing

what a terrible feeling this is
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>retarded backstab bullshit during FGS L1 animation

Why do they allow this? Christ that's so stupid.
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Ahhhhhh
Ignorant senpai, finally taken notice have you?
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>every time I get invaded by aldrich it's by two of them

Fucking why man?
At least I had a nice shield brawl with the last two guys.
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>>148911615
FROM needed yo give loyal spirits a fighting chance to get those covenant items
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Is this general also dead?
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Playing a non meta character in Dark Souls 1, overlevelling so I can use a ton of different stuff. I really enjoy playing the game this way
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>>148917015
Maybe this is how Miyazaki intended us to play.
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>>148917898
I really like being able to switch between light and heavy builds at will
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>>148918593
It's liberating, ain't it? Of course, the only drawback is that your multiplayer potential drops sharply the higher your level. Unless of course, there's the famed 387 Mile-High Club.
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>>148920172
I find that I get consistent invasions in Oolacile Township, Painted World and Anor Londo up through level like 170. And even playing like this, it's rare I reach 150
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One of the very few happy stories

completely destroyed
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I guess the usual anons are asleep again.
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>>148924579
you know there's already a thread, right?
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>>148923173
>completely destroyed
W-What?
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Is it just me or does Lorthric's prayer set have a bunch of cum stains on it?
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ded game
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>>148924807
Alva DIES
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>>148925462
>>148924657
Stop posting here. Fuck off.
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>>148925519
Well, everyone dies. But the story goes that Alva and Zullie lived happily ever after.
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>>148925570

>most popular souls game to date
>""""""""""""last""""""""""""""" souls game
>uninspired bloodborne:medieval edition
>no replay value
>no fun
>pvp is hot garbage

Lmaooo
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>>148926108
So basically every other souls general. Go fuck off and join your shitty kind.
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>>148909876
I wish Tanimura designed it, DaS2 was much better
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1st time playing through dark souls 2 sotfs

rate char
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>be summon for blue smelty
>host keeps trying to use sorceries on it
I can see why he needs 3 summons to beat this boss.
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Is magic considered disgraceful in Demon's Souls?

The Tower Knight was a walk in the park thanks to Soul Arrow. The dogs were harder.
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>>148933125
Even DSP struggled to clear DS using a magic only build with help from his stream chat faggots so its not entirely idiot proof

Play whatever you find is most fun. Some parts will be easier, some probably harder
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>>148923173
Why does that asshole get the cute witch GF?
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>>148898465
I want to cup Heysel's mouth through her crown as I fuck her until she starts squirming in panic of suffocation, only knowing relief when she knows release!
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>>148936023
_____lewd__________
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Holy FUCK. This "Manhunter O'Harrah" NPC is a fucking god with the bow.

First of all, what bow is that, and what fucking ammunition is he using?
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>>148936241
NPC ammunition

It hits like a truck and doesn't run out
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How do you win Dragon Shrine
Even if I ignore mace nigga the phantom at the top of the steps rapes me
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>>148911615
>walk through crucifixion woods embered, always play solo
>mfw invaded by 2 watchdogs and 1 regular invader while giant crabs try to rape my face
>mfw I invade it's always myself versus host and 2 buttbuddies without fail
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>>148928815
he looks like someone who bench pressed to get girls, but then realized his face and personality where still shit
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why does seath one shot me even when wearing full havels
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>>148936667
havent played ds3 so idk if ur in that game, but Dark Souls 1 seath is very easy.

Don't wear havels for any boss, ever, maybe 4 kings on NG+ but still...

If ur fighting version 1 seath he 1 shots u for story reasons

if version 2 seath, destroy crystal and get good
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>>148937140
>tfw wear full havels 24/7 in every dark souls game
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>>148937371
That's cute as fuck.
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>>148937371
Havel def. got a large set buff in DaS2 not sure about 3
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Anyone wanna help me with Four Kings?
PS3
SL48
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>no Darksword buffs
>just a fucking BUGFIX
fuck you fromsoft you fucking HACKS
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>>148937576
The defense of the set in DaS2 is like the poise of the set in DaS1 in terms of overpoweredness.

Havel's should be much better in DaS3, in my opinion. Full set provides a very mediocre amount of damage reduction compared to other armor. What's interesting is that is still provides the most poise, although this is kind of a moot point since poise, as it is currently, is fairly useless as far as we know. Smough being higher defense is 100% bullshit.

It really should weigh ~15 units more total across the 4 pieces, but provide 40% all physical defense base, before RoSP+2.

As it stands, DaS3's havels is definitely the lightest redinition of all the sets, but also the weakest. Armor in general in DaS3 doesn't help as much as it used to. More damage is soaked up by high defense rather than absorption, especially at exorbitantly high levels.
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An entire patch just to correct my fag ass from being pumped full of cum. Couldn't they find something else to fix along with this, or is the DLC close?
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>it's another "aldrichfag/dogfag turns against the red while the host runs off to summon backup" episode

I fucking hate this episode.
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>>148909876
i blame it on the metashitters and pve linearity
but mostly the metashitters
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>>148937729
if you want to twink invade do four kings by yourself pussy
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>>148937994
Just make a char named "ffsKillHostNotMe"
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>>148937729
Four Kings is easy m8
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>Every souls game pvp experience has just been people abusing the fuck out of whatever is broken at the time
DaS1 had the fog ring and demon spear spam
DaS2 had leo ring instakill builds and hexes before they got turned into shit
and now we have DaS3 with running katana attacks
Dont know why pvp is praised so much when it is so garbage
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Do Four Kings do pure magic damage? I don't have Havel's yet.
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>>148938417
no they do physical, the only magical damage is the purple shit
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>>148938417
They have pure magic attacks and split melee/magic attacks. Stone set and Crest shield worked for me
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>>148938348
yeah it would be much more fun if everyone played with straight swords that deal 180 damage per hit
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>>148938309
the whole game is easy unless you're doing some spicy ng+7 clean start permagravelord aggro run
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>>148938526
It would be best if From used DaS1 mechanics and just disabled backstabbing on player opponents who aren't using items, as well as making infinite combos end by eventually knocking enemies out of reach or knocking them down to the ground.
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>>148938348
>pvp is praised so much
where? actual "fair" pvp is shit in these games. invasions have always been about being a dick to the host, it's the fighting game rejects who try to make the game something it's not and then complain it's not balanced properly
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>Killed a 4 gank squad
>Xbox record that
>See video
>Sound Only
A reason to move to PC this year
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your weapon has a chance to immediately break in combat depending on its max durability

fixt pvp forever.
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Why the fuck can bitch hosts resummon their bitch phantom friends after they've fucking died? 3vs1, fuck around with them for like 15 mins, kill his bitch boys with the enemies' help, he just fucking summons them back. Pussies eventually got tired and went into Pontiff, rather than 3vs1. This fucking community, man.
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>>148938705
That game is called Skyrim aka R1
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>farming sunlight medals for the trophy
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>>148938772
That's retarded.
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>>148938772
This punishes players who skillfully use crystal weps
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>>148938821
so is dark souls pvp lmfao

>>148938348
is completely fucking right.

these games are 100% dogshit because people only use what's good instead of what they like. they only want to win. they don't want fun because they have this perverted idea in their heads that they can only have fun if they win

stupid faggots
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>>148938785
sunlight medals are the easiest to farm after shekels
>>148938772
>asking for more rng outside drops
>we already have bosses with rng move selector
NO, SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>148938783
What? Are you saying that you'd press R1 with a Large Club when you can 1HR2 instead? Are the pokes of the BSS not the reason you'd use the weapon? Aren't the reasons that you don't use R2s in PvP so much is that it was so easy to just circle around and backstab someone, and since backstabbing is removed, the main reason not to R2 would be gone as well?
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>>148938915
No.
You need thirty and I haven't gotten a single one in the last half hour despite equipping all the drop rate increasing items.
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>>148939267
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Farming For Medals Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Place A Sign Down For A Boss Like Nigga Invade As A Gold Haha
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>>148938896
i blame damnnohtml for fucking up everything

we wouldn't have as many cardcaptors or passive-reactive fuckers if it wasn't for him
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>>148939482
I really wish that all metashit just gets pounded into obscurity by the nerfbat every other week.

Aysymmterical balance in a pvp system like this is almost impossible. Eventually there'll just stop being good shit, and everyone will resort to using whatever is least weak.
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LOL why would I want GKFB when Chaos Bed Vestiges exists like wtf hello???

Its better for pvp AND pve
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>>148939745
even if they nerfed card captor, would people actually stop using it? it would still have retarded range so the only thing that would change is that passive players would take more time to kill you
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some sort of update just installed on my ps4 for ds3. any idea what's goin' on with it?
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>>148939874
Of course they would.

Man I hardly fucking ever see anybody using dark swords anymore, and refined 40/40 only got a 9 AR nerf.

A weapon that swings as fast and eats as little stamina as the ccs should be nerfed into fucking oblivion. 465 AR is absolutely goddamn ridiculous. Bring that shit down to like 415 or something, where ALL cs/kat/ss/ts should be.
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red pill me on balder side sword
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>>148940357
it's a conspiracy by the juice aka the estus
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>>148940357
r1 sucks. dont use it.

good for buffs
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>>148940290
Dark sword is useless against good players, it has useless R2s and a useless weapon art for a SS, it's a pve weapon.

415 AR would still be too much for a curved sword, heck, iirc not even sharp falchion/storm curved sword reach 400 AR
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>no stealth changes
fuck you too from
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i want a souls PC FC bf
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>>148940643
Having a brother is the best
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>>148939874
If all curved swords are nerfed to 400 AR mark we will see way more storm curved swords than carthus.
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>>148938716
This. Fight clubs and dueling are cancer. Being a cunt invader and the harrowing experience of being invaded by a cunt are fun. Honour is a joke.
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>>148940686
Only if your brother is your souls PC FC bf
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>>148940357
One handed R1 moveset is good for dead angling and sweeping ability. Not good for poise break, but that's not your draw to a BSS anyway. If you're any decent, you shouldn't have trouble breaking poise with a SS anyway. All about spacing, and BSS is great with that for a couple reasons, but primarily, it's R2s. 2HR2 Leo Ring counters win trades with Claymore pokes. The numbers you see are about 600. Use it. 1HR2s are good too, though not as absolutely penetrating, it combos out of the first attack of the R1 combo nicely. It rollcatches pretty good, too.

Pretty good, 8/10, Knight King Rendal approves
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>>148940643
Fuck off, nobody likes you
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>>148940862
r-rude
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any of you guys play lords of the fallen? I made it up to about the point where you realize you've been fighting the same two reskinned guys with health buffs the whole time. Is it worth continuing? are any of the bosses not the same guy in new armor with a slightly different cooldown?
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Is changing your class with CE safe?
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>>148940951
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>>148941061
Jojofags are the ponyfags of anime
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>>148940443
The Dark Sword, being currently the slowest and most stamina inefficient out of all ss/ts/cs/kat bar washing pole, should stay at maybe 425, for the reasons you stated.

Everything else should range from 365-415.

AR:Stamina:Speed ratios need to be kept in line.

If the AR is 10/10, the Stamina consumption is 3/10, the speed should be be 2.5/10.
Conversely, if the AR is 5/10, stamina is 5/10, and the speed is 5/10, it better have a shitty ass WA or moveset. See: Dark Sword
Note: these are pure hypothetical examples and none of the above is specific to any weapon.

And don't even get me fucking started on ultra weapons. Nearly all of them are:
>Heavy
>Slow
>Easy to counter
>Easy to dodge
>Incredibly stamina inefficient
>Low damage relative to all of the above.

There are literally 3 ultras in-game that don't follow this rule, but have some other weakness that makes their usage risky at best.
1. Astora Greatsword - Best rendition of Charge WA, but ultimately useless if opponent is capable of parrying.
2. Black Knight Greataxe - One of the lowest DPS weapons in-game due to awful stamina costs; pathetic range on 2H moveset.
3. Yhorm's Great Machete - Probably the most boring moveset in the entire game.

Ultras need a global efficiency pass to increase their speed, lower their stamina costs, and in a select few cases, increase their AR. Quality Souls nerfpatch when?
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>>148939267
No really, >>148939445 is right, even putting down a red sign at Pontiffs as a sunbro and killing the summoner you get a medal.
Its how i got my 30 now that co-op is dying out aside from Nameless/SoC/Princes
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>>148941167
Still me, I just cannot use ultras in this game anymore and I hate it, they're so underwhelming except for the few exceptions you stated, BKGA is another weapon who got a damage nerf when it shouldn't have but at least it wasn't as bad as Fume's
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>actually trying to balance pvp for souls games when pvp is a side thing not an actual main endgame objective
Wew lad just like fucking mobafags you know how about we take every weapon out of the game and no more spells so nobody can feel cheated or outplayed and when you lose!

There problem solved ! No more toxic pvp environments :^)

Thank me later.
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>>148941132
At least they jack off to humans
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Anyone got a link to the patch notes for this update? What else are they fixing aside from the ToD glitch?
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>>148941769
Literally nothing else
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In DaS1 can you use Red Eye Orb even if you're not in Darkwraiths?
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>>148941850
Cant be serious. No adjustments to weapons? No fixing poise yet?
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>>148941898
no
you have to use cracked ones

>>148940979
kept crashing on me so i stopped
wasn't bad but not great
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>>148941898
nope, pretty much every covenant except for a few ones have exclusive items/spells tied to them, you gotta use cracked red eye orbs if you don't join darkwraiths
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>>148941917
Literally. Nothing. Else.

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4smtif/update_106_july_19th/
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F C W H E N
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>>148941769
the skip glitch?

there goes any motivation i had for a new playthrough
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>>148942042
T-thanks miyazaki
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>>148898465
Is there any other matoi sakuraba soundtracks like those in dark souls? I've been a long time fan of his, but I haven't been following him as much lately. I mostly know him from his earlier stuff on nintendo systems. But I love the oppressive atmosphere of the dark souls series soundtracks. It doesn't even have to be by matoi sakuraba, I'd like to hear anything like this.
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>>148942042
Dont they have to pay like $80,000 every time they do an actual patch? This would be stupid, especially since it doesnt affect people much, if at all.
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>>148942235
While not similiar to the pieces in Dark Souls, the soundtrack from Nier is amazing. Keiichi Okabe is an incredible composer.
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>>148942126
>uninstall game
>go offline
>reinstall by disc
>do whatever glitches you can in 1.00
>update when done
You're welcome.
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>>148900036
>>148901632
>be overleveled
>be not be not overleveled
thanks sensei
you got them jrpg strats down
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Haven't played since Das 3 release,did they fix the broken covenants?
is the meta still dark sword/rapier/BK axe spam?
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>>148942529
>did they fix the broken covenants?
Mostly. Darkmoon and watchdogs are still ass but you can actually get summoned every 10-20 minutes
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>>148942529
Current meta: Gotthards/Washing Pole/Carthus Curved Sword from ehat i've seen/heard

>Broken covenants
-ish, i get decent-ish summons for darkmoon/watchdogs but the grind is still the most effective way if you're SL100+
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I just downloaded a 50 mb patch what was it POSIE IS FIXED?? ? ?
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>>148942529
the meta is:
>carthus curved sword spacing 2hr1
>washing pole running attacks
power gap
>carthus rouge onikiri & ubadachi roll L2 into r1 spammers
>glaives
power gap
>gotthards twinswords
>lothric knight sword

power gap everything else

all of the above are paired with a blessed offhand and life ring+3 ringswap into sun princess to punish passive play

welcome to the meta

receive your CSS and pole at the door
there is only one build and it is SL120~130 hollow super quality
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>>148942881
>glaives below carthus curved
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I can host a PC FC here in a while, alternatively I can host at the castle. No, I cannot host at high wall and I don't want to start a new run.
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>>148943000
No one ever comes if it's not High Wall, Stray Demon bridge or Pontiff's
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>>148942941
yeah
if anything it's the WP that's not as good
it's more a trinity of CCS < O&U < glaives < CCS
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>>148943164
Since I can host down there, I can host at pontiff's as well, I just don't want to because
>le kappa audience
If that's the only choice tho, I will host there
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What happens when you kill Anri before Horace? Does Horace even care?

I was watching someone play and they killed Horace and Anri was too depressed to fight back afterwards.
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>make pyromancer
>27 vit 10 dex = SL 25
>equip raw ass +3
>join watchdoge covenant

I feel like I'm cheating
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>>148943714
he keeps fighting
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>>148943714
he doesn't kek

>>148943792
I've seen worse
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DaS3 has the best PvP meta.
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>>148943792
>watchdogs
That shieeet is working?
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>tfw das2 dexfag
>tfw want to use fume sword but it has shitty moveset

i want my 2h stabs okay. pls gief.
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>>148944958
Just use the parryable rolling attacks nigga, like get parried nigga hahahaha
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>>148944042
I can agree on that
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Is it just me or is it a lot more difficult to play without a shield in DaS3?
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>>148944042
the best "meta" is pvping throughout the game at any level

fight clubs and duels are cancer
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>>148943208
O&U < glaives
full retard
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>>148945215
more enemies who have more moves and more stamina

yes it is more difficult
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>>148945326
The best meta is when people are still figuring out the game and you can surprise/get surprised by random shit
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>>148945186
>getting parried
>in pve

jesus i would deserve to die if that happened desu.
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>>148945597
The best meta is playing offline because souls pvp is fucking garbage in any case.
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Anon, what is the most op build for level 60?
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>>148945597
this.
now it's just min-max faggotry for tryhards and autists
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>>148945484
FEEBLE CURSED ONE
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>>148945624
>Snakemen
Those doubledagger cunts have a stance where they have a 100% succesfull parry rate, if you attack with a parryable attack, they land it automatically
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>>148945597
>the best meta is fighting against inexperienced players
casual
There is nothing wrong with actually understanding weapon movesets and it's what you should be working on if you PvP.
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>>148945898
are...talking about the same game anon

ive never heard of snakemen in sotfs
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>>148945947
FUCK
my bad, i think the most parry-happy enemy in DS2 is armourer dennis?
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>>148945215
Obviously. It was only in DaS2 where shields were largely useless.
>>148945703
Getting gud enough to not get hit while landing hits on your opponent. Whatever weapon you can play with like this is the most powerful one.
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>>148946014
besides it isn't even hard to parry the fume ss

or any ss for that matter
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>>148946071
Wait are we talking about the SS or the UGS?
I forgot that DS2 had another fume weapon, if its the SS disregard previous statements
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Hi anons, i'm a newbie in adobe illustrator and i decided to make some fan art for DS - something like pic related for each boss. Is it awful...should i just stop now ? Do you dig it ?
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>>148946145
The scheme is okay. The guy definitely looks too tall compared to asylum demon.

Suggestion: as you progress on with bosses, keep adding more advanced gear on the undead, starting with crappy and early stuff like hollow warriors/soldiers/chain armor pieces.
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>>148946145
>another artist afflicted by the cuck syndrome

it's fucking awesome you insecure faggot.

requesting fume knight sitting against a wall like creighton does(pic for reference), with his SS beside him and his UGS propped up next to him.
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>>148946145
Doesnt look half bad anon, depth perception isnt perfect but i like it.
Keep working and eventually your art will stop looking good and start looking amazing.
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>>148946145
>bosses
>not cute girls
Why even draw?
I'm kidding. Keep it up
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>>148946527
Why can't he draw both?
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>>148946313
>>148946394
>>148946429
>>148946527

thanks anons !

>>148946145
that's the plan, i basically hit the new game button and drew inspiration from a few screenshots i took with a new character. And as i play through again i will keep doing that.

>>148946394
I wanna make all the DS1 bosses first...and tbqh i loathe the thought of starting DS2 again

>>148946429
thanks, i will - i made some stuff before, but Dark Souls is very different...harder to make in illustrator. The stuff i made before is Mass Effect fan art - check it out here http://gothicmaster1988.deviantart.com/

>>148946527
can't draw qt grills ;_;
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>>148946145
I like it anon!
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In DaS3, anor londo, where the illusinary wall is to the darkmoon/marry anri area, there is a set of brass armour. Who does that belong to again? Was it somebody who passed away earlier in the game or somebody from DaS1, like the blacksmith giant?
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>>148946990
DS1's Darkmoon Knightess, the firekeeper of the first bonfire in Anor Londo and a blade of the darkmoon
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>>148947053
Ahhh i remember her! Thanks
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Have been working on a trawler for a couple months, anyone give me a rundown on notable nerfs/boosts

Is strength worth it yet?
Was bleed nerfed?
Has Faith been boosted?
Anything else?
Have a quality and a pyro build who've gone ng+, what's a fun build?
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Why doesn't From Software what Poise actually does in DaS3?
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>pyromancer is almost always better than sorcerer for a caster build, straight optimal if you're planning to use tinder
>knight is almost always better than cleric unless you want to use anri's sword
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How do you beat Dragon Shrine my friends? I can't beat the infinite stamina mace giant and if I run past him I get rekd by the solo lance guy on the steps
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>>148947291
Stop posting
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>when you manage to get two invaders bumrushing you to fight eachother
truly the best feel
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>>148947163
>Is strength worth it yet?
No
>Was bleed nerfed?
No
>Has Faith been boosted?
A bit, it's better than before but nothing special
>Anything else?
Washing Pole and Card captor are still the "top tier" memeta weapons
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>>148947343
>luck won't be a dump stat they said
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/57972

How shit is this and how should I improve it?
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>>148947343
>Pyromancer better than sorcerer
Havent seen that happen outside of Hex or Tinder builds, if i were to get a decent 120 sorc set-up mugen tells me that sorc is ahead of pyro with 3 points.
Could you show me an example, now you've got me interested
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>>148947628
>invaders killing fellow invaders

It's bad enough that the chances of matching up with a host with friendly phantoms is relatively high, now you have to deal with one extra retard to fight.

Thanks for giving them the idea, Leonhard.
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I'm in Undead Settlement, just before a Giant sniping me with arrows (yeah thanks Gough)

where the fuck should I go? there's a bridge, but the doors closed. Also, I think I just killed a covenant guy.
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>>148947745
>144
Blegh
>30 End SS
I'd stick more into Vig if i were you, drop End by 5
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>>148947871
theres a store upgrade in the cemetary ahead
Alternatively, go back to the 2nd bonfire and cross the bridge near the burning tree, remember to look around past the door
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>>148946145
looked like stained glass art for a second.
frankly, I'm disappointed

>>148947163
1) kinda but depends how good you are with str weapons. it's no shitter tier
2) no, but some few weapons that were used for bleed were
3) casting speed and some slight dmg
4) washing pole hitbox was nerfed, some pyro got more fp cost, improved tracking on dark pyro, daggers and the rapier got critical bns boosted, you cant WA with only 1 fp.
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>>148946145
great idea
if I was you, I would get rid of all the chiaroscuro and go for a str8 flat illustration, à la retro postcard
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>>148947871
There's 2 ways to go from that big bonfire with that crazy mace lady
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>>148947163
Str is worth it for like three weapons total.

Greatclub, Pickaxe, and I don't remember. Probably Yhorm's machete.
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>>148947871
>Giant sniping me with arrows
There's a cathedral in the settlement. Find it and go to the top floor.

Then return where you were getting shot at with arrows and you will find a way around the locked doors.
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>>148948205
Yes,at that bonfire first I went on the left and I ended un in the sniping point, but I haven't ventured further down there. Also, there's this other passage with a bridge, and a closed door.
Then I thought that was the wrong direction, went to the right, ended un first talking with a man in a cage and then I think I killed an important guy because the vanishing animations looked like other significant NPC's

>>148948350
>>148948019
Will do, ty
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>>148948325
Gundyr's
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>>148948561
It doesn't really matter which way you go, but you can get the giant to stop shooting you
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Welcome home, Ashen One
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How is invading at the moment in Ds3? Been away for a bit and want to get back into it. Got an SL70 and a 120fag. Is it still constant 1v3's?

Also are Dorkmoons/Sentinels fixed yet or are those not even worth trying like earlier?
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>>148948561
You killed the guy at the bottom of the pit? Stop attacking NPCs like that my man.

To find the man with the cage, you went around a building. Go back and head inside instead, then keep going. If you reach some fucks throwing firebombs from a rooftop it's the right way.
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what if the Old One is the unkindled one that managed to break the cycle, allowing Dark to take over the world
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>>148948965
succ
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>>148949127
that one didnt look like an NPC, and I just fought with a similar guy minutes before
well, shit. No Nana in a Cage for me ;_;
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>>148949196
>demon's souls/dark souls crossover theories
no
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>>148948135
i want to do that, but i just don't have the knowledge/skill/talent for it...
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>>148949071
mostly 1v2 and some 1v1. any 1v3 or 2v4 you see is a dedicated gank. Blues are slightly better, but my advice is to go blue on the weekends.
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Holy fuck the throwing knife spam is real in shitter central today

>Throwing knife deals more damage to you while you're using the staff WA
(I heard the extra damage sound playing, and saw a bigger chunk dissapear)
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>>148949327
Yeah, I know, different projects etc etc.

But that broken Giant Archstone
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>>148945215
Dodgerolls are super effective.
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>>148949792
just equip a shield and force them to waste all their knives
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>>148947871
You should kill the giant with Firebombs when you get near him. If you go to melee range, he'll grab you and throw you off the building.
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>>148949626
Alright, and I suppose Post Pontiffs is still the best place to get all of the above
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Why are these bloodstains here?
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>>148950025
Wow, way to be a fucking cock anon. Don't listen to that guy, you can befriend the giant and then he'll snipe the shit out of fags standing close to white birch trees.
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>>148950189
Because people died there.
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What are some good strenght weapon in DaS2? Just started playing.
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>Opponent throws a dung pie on me when I die
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>>148950251
dragon tooth
King's ultra greatsword
chariot lance
rob/ flynn red rust scimitar or craftman's hammer

strike damage is op
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>>148950189
They sudoku'd for their Goddess after she called them a scrub for respeccing to a 40/40 quality
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>>148949802
Have you not seen the cut content for it?
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>>148950251
Greatsword
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I noticed that bombs and throwables have scaling. How does this work? I want to do an alchemist character who uses things like firebombs and lightning urns, and I'm wondering how I can get the most out of them.
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>>148950417
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>>148950540
Alright Professor Putricide, I hope you're ready for a 40/40/60 str/dex/fai build
Maybe go along with the poison/toxic clouds while you're at it, sounds like a fun theme
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>>148950639
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/unused-content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9c01YsEFM
enjoy, then suffer because you know this will never be in the game
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>>148950418
>>148950326
Thanks a lot lads. Which is better : full strenght or quality?
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>>148950694
I was thinking of using buff type spells, like iron flesh and stuff, along with things like clouds. Why do I need the faith? Do lightning urns scale on faith?
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>>148950776
Yeah, Lightning Urns have an S scaling in faith
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>>148950703
What's with from springing up snowy areas out of fucking nowhere?
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>>148950694
>Professor Putricide
I miss ICC progression
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>>148950813
Fuck, this is going to be an annoying build then. I guess I never liked vigor anyway.
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What's a good straight sword to infuse with Dark?
Shortsword, Lothric Knight Sword, something completely different?
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>>148950251
dragon tooth, greatsword, red rust sword&scimitar and mace
if you have the dlc then fume
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>>148950707
str by far
dex scaling is way worse than str scaling
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can someone help me with the dancer on pc?
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>>148950813
>another item that benefits the faith builds
>but only available after lothric castle
I feel like faith builds are meant to kill the dancer early.
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>>148950956
Broadsword and Longsword have B/B scaling from what I remember

If you're willing to abandon straight swords, Astora GS has A/A scaling
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>>148951078
I already have an Astora GS, I've been looking for something faster/lighter lately. I'll look into those two you mentioned.
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>>148951148
>>148951078
longsword is actually better than broad sword for dark/chaos and it's probably the best one you want.
Red hilted halberd is good too.
>>
Which boss souls give good items in DS2?
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>>148950956
Anything that scales well with Chaos will scale well with Dark

I recommend Winged Spear, Murakamo, Carthus Curved Greatsword, and the Great Corvian Scythe, the Astora Greatsword goes here as well, as all the above have A/A scaling in INT/FAI when Dark'd, but you said you didn't like it so I held off on mentioning it. It's actually only 1% scaling away from being double S scaling. It truly is the best scaling weapon in-game.

Honorable Mentions: Estoc, Corvian Greatknight, Shortsword (highly recommend), Thrall Axe, and Caestus.
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>>148951510
Alright, Longsword it is then.
Red Hilted is also in my collection already.
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>>148951752
shieet make a chaos one at least.
even if it's only for pve damage coverage .
Dogs hate fire.
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>>148951752
is 20 endurance good for a pyro?
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>>148952434
Depends on the weapon.

For an Armadyl Godsword? I don't think it is, no.

But something like a dinky thrall axe or estoc? Absolutely.
>>
So what was this patch for? Literally just ToD glitch?
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>>148952754
>Armadyl Godsword
????
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>>148950703
is that a gladius? were did everything go wrong?
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>>148952754
>Armadyl Godsword
go back to rsg
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>>148952953
AGS
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>>148952434
>>148952754
That being said I use the Profaned Greatsword on a SL1 all the time with only 10 END and 105 stamina. I can swing it three times, which is generally all you need.
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>>148952434
too much
you still won't get second casts with lots of pyros with that anyway
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>>148952434
I've not had much trouble with 20 END while wielding light weapons, which almost my entire collection exists of. As long as you're not using huge ass weapons you should be more than fine.
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>>148952434
I personally feel 15 is enough for most Pyros, plus extra Vig is always nice
>>
Alright, real talk.
How the FUCK do I punish parry spammers?
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>>148953468
kicks
jump attacks
weapon art attacks
dead angles with huge weapons
mixups
backstabs
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>>148953468
Literally just run behind them and backstab
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>>148923173
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>>148953603
gross
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>>148953603
fanfiction tier
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>>148953468
adding to what >>148953532 said:
delay r1s
2h great weapons
faint attack the 1st r1
>>
Alright I'm replaying DaS. Are there any things you can think of that you missed on your first playthrough? Especially NPC-type stuff, so far I've got
>Rhea's storyline
>Great Hollow
>Ash lake
>Most of the DLC
>Painted World
>Kaathe instead of Frampt
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>>148953835
I missed the skelly blacksmith on my first playthrough

I also forget to murder every NPC before going to NG+
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>>148953835
logan, solaire and onion.
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>>148953835
completely missed leeroy
found the great hollow but didnt manage to reach ash lake
all of the dlc
accidentally fell in frampt's hole and placed the lordvessel myself
never saw any mention of beatrice
missed the whole fair lady deal
got almost all of sieg's questline except for the end
somehow managed to get the painted world
don't think there is anything else.
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i cant fucking believe this actually worked but im really glad it did

ive seen happy souls. these are the facesuckers.
>>
DaS1 Catacombs are the pinnacle of Fromsoft level design.
>>
So we are expecting 2 major DLC in the future. If both dlc are widely successful, is there any chance they would come up with more content, even on a smaller scale, after that? Seeing as how this is the last game and all
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>you will never cuddle lucatiel and comfort her while she succumbs to the curse

;-;
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>>148953835
>Rhea's storyline
Didn't miss.
>Great Hollow
Found it.
>Ash lake
Didn't bother going there.
>Most of the DLC
I did the DLC.
>Painted World
Heard from a friend how to get there.
>Kaathe instead of Frampt
Only learned from Internet.

>>148953983
Yeah, I found him accidentally while invading on an other character. I heard his hammering through the wall on my main, but couldn't find a path to him.
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>>148954374
>Seeing as how this is the last game and all
>implying
They'll make more Soulsborne games, anon, just not in this particular Dark Souls universe.
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>>148954249
shame it's such an annoying area
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Look guys, I'm roleplaying dark souls 3!
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>App version 1.06
what can we expect?
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>>148954913
>Lone Hunter Schmidt
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>148954230
you can easily light them by 2hr2 with a pyro flame if you have no fire weapon. unfortunately, they go out after a while
>>148954421
>letting her succumb
what the FUCK is wrong with you
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>>148955163
lmao senpai I just bought 1k fire arrows.

archer is truly the best gameplay tbqh fampai.
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>>148955091
He's lone for a reason
>>
what scales better with faith, blessed or lightning?
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>>148955605
raw
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Post Ashen Ones.
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>>148955667
wut
>>
>>148955848
What the fuck is this abomination?
>>
>>148928815
4/10 face but it takes an inordinate amount of work to get anything half decent out of the DS2 character creator
>>
>>148955605
When upgraded to +10, a blessed weapon will regenerate lost HP at a rate of three every two and a half seconds. Blessed has the lowest AR of any infusion, however, it does deal an additional 20% damage to undead, and also has the ability to permanently destroy reviving skeletons. Although, it's usefulness is limited being that applicable undead may only reanimate once. It is also worth noting that although the AR of blessed is incredibly low, all of the damage dealt is Physical. Unlike other infusions which deal two damage types that can have potentially lower overall damage, due to the way damage is calculated in the game.

The Lightning infusion does far greater damage by itself, but when a Raw-infused weapon, such as the Dragonslayer's Axe, is buffed with Lightning Blade, the amount of damage you can do is mindblowing, especially against a target weak to lightning, such as Oceiros.

Many people like to have their offhand shield or weapon infused with Blessed, as the HP regen definitely adds up over time.

But to answer you question, Lightning scales better. Nearly all weapons in-game infused with Blessed will reach A scaling, but there are a multitude of weapons that reach S scaling with Lightning.
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>>148956102
>but there are a multitude of weapons that reach S scaling with Lightning.
and they all fucking suck, due to shitty base damage when infused

only decent lightning weapon is lothric ugs, which is way worse than regular with slb
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rate my build
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>instead of actual balance changes From spent weeks patching out a skip that added more gameplay options
>there's no stealth changes in 1.06 at all
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>>148955849
raw+buff>lighting>>>blessed
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>>148956240
>SL648
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Build for Sasuke Uchiha
(Haven't decided on the armor he'll wear and will probably replace one spell with Rapport to simulate Genjutsu when doing PvE/Co-Op)
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/57805

Consumables
>Gold Pine Bundle
>Human Pine Resin

Projectiles
>Throwing Knife

If you have any suggestions for this build, feel free to post them please.

>inb4 fuck off Narutards
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>>148956269
>exploitation is now a legitimate gameplay option

Look, we're all bored with the game currently.

Why don't you play other games while you're waiting for the DLC, or perhaps some balance changes to come out?
>>
>>148956240
nice 51 mining, peasant
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>>148956308
this is the new meta
>>
SL 99 cheesemaster looking for squad join my discord https://discord.gg/nTXxd
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>>148956269
this
ds3's starting game is so fucking boring
i'm so sick of cathedral and farron swamp
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>>148956383
Looks alright, dont expect any amazing damage from the pyro's though; 25/25 isnt that high
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>>148956383
Consider Chaos Blade and 40/40 int/fai because you won't be doing any damage like this.
>>
Build for Naruto Uzumaki
(Haven't decided on the armor he'll wear)
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/57806

Consumables
>Charcoal Pine Bundle
>Pale Pine Resin

Projectiles
>Throwing Knife

If you have any suggestions for this build, feel free to post them please

>inb4 fuck off Narutards
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>>148953468
offhand crossbow or darts
>>
memehackzaki
>>
aa.......dar ksouls 3...........n ot godo game.............
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>>148946145
dem 10/10 anon, love it
any other ai-related work that i can check?
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>PS4
got a lvl 60,80 and 100.
the online at 60 is still active but at 80-100 its fucking dead.
>>
Would anyone use the FuGS if it had 100% physical block and 70 stability?
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>>148957621
There's people................
that use FUGS............
RIGHT...............
NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>the one game that hackazaki didn't work for turned out to be the best game in the series

You literally can't make this shit up.
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>>148956749
>>148956605
How about now?
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/58022
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>>148957796
>1280*720
>2.26MB
shit son, what are you doing?
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>Been a while since checked on DSG
>Wonder if there is any update on DLC
>Nope
>Lucifer still shitposting

Well, might as well check again in a month.
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>>148957875
Lucifer is the only interesting thing in these threads
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>>148957216
yeah over here http://gothicmaster1988.deviantart.com/gallery/ and thanks !
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>>148957875
DLC will be released by late august-mid september
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>>148958001
fuck off lucy
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>>148958001
He SOMETIMES gives valid tips, but he holds himself too high and when he does give bad tips and gets called out on it, he goes on a sperg spree saying everyone else is shit.

Kind of like rubjellyonme.
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>>148958114
I like jelly

He gave me a Simple Caestus for free
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>>148958114
it's obvious that rubjellyonme is supposed to be annoying but he doesn't offset it with any seriousness so it gets old quick, we have no idea what he's really like

lucy is just irredeemable garbage and nobody likes him
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>>148957727
Miyazaki worked on Bloodborne you dummy
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>>148958214
>>148958254
My favorite thing from jelly.
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Huh I didn't know you could summon Hawkwood to go get the twinkling dragonstone with you. Neat.

If I had rung the bell with him in my world would he have black crystaled out like Albert does?
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>>148957727
but miyazaki did work on ds3
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>>148957861
Add lightning blade, it'll be perfect.
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>>148958313
*tips*
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>summoned as a dark spirit
>host using LMAO2KAT
>parry the shit out of him
>alt+f4

Sometimes I wish I was recording
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>>148958454
I feel that'd be a waste of a slot when I can just substitute Lightning Blade for Gold Pine Bundles/Resins. Does Lightning Blade add that much damage?
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>>148958597
if you have a good chime with high spell buff, chances are yes, it does
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>>148958561
>*2kat WA*
>*vacuums you into him*
>*get staggered because HIS FUCKING KNEES HIT YOU*
>*bleeds you out instantly*
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>>148958254
>tfw only went back to /dsg/ recently from not having been here since 2012/2013
>everyone still hates lucy

feels good man

I think he's all right tho desu
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>>148958597
Good point anon.
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>>148958702
sounds like something lucy would say
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What the fuck is the deal with this update? It's only 50mb but it takes half a year to "unpack"
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>>148958657
Thanks, anon
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>>148958597
But there's another problem since the Chaos blade can't even be buffed kek.

Try a chaos uchi and lower the strength/dex stats to reqs.

>>148958809
It's the DLC pre-buffer stuff

Wait for a couple of days, they'll be some new stuff for datamemers to sift through and show us.
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>>148958809
prep for DLC, calling it
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>>148956783
R8 my Narudo build dattebayo
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>>148958796
I promise I'm not lucy ;_;
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>>148958947
aut/ism
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>>148958863
Aren't chaos infused weapons trash though?
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>>148958947
>>148957861
people not shitting on you more is so surreal to me
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>>148958947
Try this anon-kun.

Switch to a raw uchi when you want to buff.

>>148959054
Not at all.

Gotta understand cosplay builds aren't usually the most effective ones.

t. havel fetishest for the past three games
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>>148959162
>lightning blade
>chaos uchigatana
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>>148959234
>i have no reading comprehension
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>>148959269
Why the fuck would you want to switch between two weapons? They're the exact same except that one will always outclass the other.
>>
Ahh...
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At the bonfire in AL, when you look to the left there's a tower with what looks like a bonfire on a balcony (can't really tell because I play in 800*450 upscaled). Can you get there somehow?
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>>148959337
>i dont understand what cosplay means
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So
Cr8=thump
Heysel=index
Kirk=middle
Leonhard=ring
Who is the pinky?
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>>148956383
>Build for Sasuke Uchiha
Ahuviya Harel pls
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>>148959401
>800*450 upscaled

holy shit
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Thoughts on a good shield to infuse with blessed gem?
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>>148959509
Buckler or some other parrying shield.
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>>148959337
Dark Souls meta PvPers, everyone.

L I T E R A L L Y

>If it isn't meta, why the FUCK are you using it you stupid fucking cocksucking niggerfaggot?

>>148959509
I see Iron Round being used a lot. Pretty sure it's the highest stability to weight small shield when infused with blessed/simple.
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>>148959401
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>>148959401
You need to be a crow or maybe a dragon
just walk across
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Holy shit going back to BB and invading a bit feels so refreshing after DS3.
It doesn't matter if host has two phantoms, all of them are facefucked in two attacks and raped for any healing attempt.
And host can't even summon more without cancelling the bell, using it again and waiting for like 10 minutes before it can find anyone.
Was it too hard to implement the same system for DS3 or something.
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>>148959162
>Try this anon-kun.
Nice. Thanks, anon.
>Gotta understand cosplay builds aren't usually the most effective ones.
Yeah, I kinda figured as much
>t. havel fetishest for the past three games
kek
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>>148959628
uchi isn't meta
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>>148959628
Nobody's talking about meta, dumbshit.
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>>148959734
>>148959737
samefag
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>>148959734
>>148959737
It's not the actual thing that matters, it's that elitest attitude.

fuck off and go play ranked in some serious PvP game or something
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>>148959682
having a hard counter to heal spam helps
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hey guys what do u think of China in Civ6?
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>>148959887
>recognizing that one weapon is better than another weapon is elitism

W E W L A D
E
W
L
A
D
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>>148959887
Why are you backpedaling this hard?
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what even is this thread right now
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>>148959974
They're okay
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can anyone help me with the dancer sl32?
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>>148960089
Sure, just set up a password and I'll drop my sign in front of the fog wall.
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weapons exceeding the lenght of a sword should be removed from this fucking game.
Phantom range UGS and Halberds are the most cancerous thing imaginable.
fuck you, yes i am mad
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>>148960046
a filtering tutorial
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>>148960046
/nsunsg/ has leaked into /dsg/, causing a discussion on a sausage cosplay build, which has now led to talk about elitism and meta.
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>>148959981
>>148960029
niether of you are even offering any suggestions for the anon's cosplay build

you're contributing absolutely nothing except memearrows doing nothing but criticizing for the sake of criticizing
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>>148960321
I would fuck it
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>>148960089
sorry, my zx spectrum is in the shop, maybe another day
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>>148960337
But at least they don't watch naruto
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>>148960321
THICC
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>>148960234
alright thanks, pw is dsg but give me 5 min to get there
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>>148960337
I've not memearrowed once, stop making up false excuses.
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>>148960505
aight anon I'll be waiting.
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>>148960427
it's pc dude.

it's always PC. nobody that plays console posts in this general unless they're playing bloodborne, which doesn't count for obvious reasons
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>>148960392
Who wouldn't?
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>downloading update

What changes am I in for?
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>>148960654
>tfw you're the only xbone player in theses threads
I can't afford a good PC damn it
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>>148960815
DLC
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>>148960815
It's just a hotfix that removes the teardrop skip. Nothing else.
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>>148960648
are you bas***?
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>>148960913
ye boi
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>>148941024
Not if you're going to play online. Why would you do that anyway?
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>>148960887
>Nothing else
and some minor unlisted changes. the patch is pretty small tho it won't be anything drastic
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>>148960815
They removing the ability to skip content through the use of an exploit involving Tears of Denial allowing you to ignore out-of-bounds killboxes.

Here's what it looks like:
https://youtu.be/9_DMXmJrHz0?t=1411

Also, I'm taking a guess that, due to the size of the update relative to what's in the patch notes, they're adding in some hidden DLC-related content.
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>>148960887
>Nothing else
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>>148961003
There was no regulation update, so there won't be any balance changes. Curb that false hope now.
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>>148960815
of heart

>>148960838
you guys should really create a list of dsg players. I see a xbone anon every 2 threads
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>>148960838
I know that feel xbone-kun

at least you have a current gen console at all
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>>148960769
gwyndolin fags
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>>148960986
sorry
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>>148959479
>>148959645
It's the only way I can get silky smooth 20 fps
>>148959662
No but seriously?
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>>148960472
gwyndolin best waifu
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can someone give me some tips for invading with halberds... I feel the damage is too low, so it just drags on forever when people start chugging.

ive tried both halberd and red hilted halberd.
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>>148960913
You still there anon? My game Alt-Tabbed, but I'm willing to keep going if you are. I added you on steam, if you'd accept we could stop shitting up the general with our dialogue :^)

>>148961291
it's aight, my bad.
>>
4 previous games to draw experience. Instead of taking the GOOD from the previous games they almost always just took each one of their FLAWS

>Armor as useless as in Bloodborne, but hey let's make them the heaviest they have ever been, provided almost no defense increase and make fatroll have more drawbacks than ever

>Enemies are ripped from Bloodborne, but let's just give the players the same old longswords and shit with the same slow and boring movesets used in the older games

>Remember Powerstance? Let's completely remove that system and put in a half-assed weapon art system where the weapon arts themselves are either extremely situational or completely worthless

>Infusing boss weapons to make them and splitdamage weapons viable? Nah, they are supposed to be worthless trash.

>Gem system from Bloodborne that turns pure physical weapons into pure elemental? Mages and Clerics don't need good weapons.

>LOL DO YOU REMEMBER THIS REFERENCE FROM DeS/DaS1/DaS2/BB ?

>Heavy/Sharp infusion? Quality4lyfe
(The GREATSWORD and ZWEIHANDER gets more out of a 30/30 uninfused/refined than 66 STR 2H Heavy infusion for example)

>Let's make ULTRA weapons SLOWER than in the previous games and cost more stamina
(For example FUGS's swing takes more start-up frames than in DS2. Black Knight Great Axe can be swung 4 times with less END in DS1 compared to maximum 3 times in DS3 with max END).

There are more things wrong like covenants, gimmick bosses, small areas, bad questlines but I won't bother going into those
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>>148961435
are you sure you added me on steam? got no notification
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>>148961814
Pretty sure. Otherwise you can add me if you want.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Ickiest

Anywho, my sign is down if you wanna go again :>
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>>148961320
I don't really find Halberds to be good invasion tools personally.

I believe that burst weaponry is a must-have for invasions. quality with BKGA, or 66 STR + Yhorm's Great Memechete, or other weapons with good knock-out potential, like buffed Caesti.

Mind you, ultras aren't the only options. I've had surprising success with the Old Wolf Curved Sword at 40/40 using the reverse backstep/ravioli WA combo for ~700+ damage

This isn't to say you can't do well with Halberds in an invasion, espcially in 1v1 since they have amazing tracking with their pokes and will genuinely fuck with rollfags pretty hard.

Glaives, especially the Black Knight Glaive, is a very good yet similar alternative to Halberds, minus the pokes.

It has a very good combo when chaining R1 into the Weapon Art for a single hit, then hitting R1 again, easily hitting people for 800+ damage.

>>148961719
I really don't think armor is useless in bloodborne. +phys runes with Cainhurst armor is actually kinda annoying to deal with. It's a good ~15% less damage than someone in a fashion setup.

Pretty much everything else is right. Especially with the ultra weapons desu.
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>>148961719
>(For example FUGS's swing takes more start-up frames than in DS2.
Movesets are mostly ripped straight out of das1, and they pretty much all have slower startups than das2 (and also lol no recovery).
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Remember to wear helmets!!
Safety first!!!
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>>148962536
A HELMET WON'T SAVE YOU. RAAAAAAGH!
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>>148962536
You niggers can't tell me what to do.
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Is the AGS the only weapon in the game without phantom range?
I feel like it's one of the few weapons out there that actually has a tight hitbox.
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>>148962843
boy i thought i was about to watch some chainsaw kickback to the head but it didnt happen and i am 100% pleasantly surprised

Should I do it, /dsg/?

>>148962963
Phantom range is just the game compensating for lag.

Remember that all weapons are a bit longer than they appear.
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>>148956783
Fuck off Narutard

But seriously though, power within and demon fists for full 9-tails mode
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>tfw you didn't get the Ni-Oh demo while it was up
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I WANT SAMURAI SOULS
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>>148963015
>Remember that all weapons are a bit longer than they appear
I've never had a phantom range hit with the AGS.
I mean, fuck, the DSGA outranges it a lot of the time.
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wow this game is dead af lol
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>>148961719
>Remember Powerstance
Why would i remember a failed system that gave you a damage debuff for weapons in left hand on top of having no true combos so it was always better to go with a weapon+shield?
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>>148963102
Isn't there supposed to be another demo coming out? A demo to show off the changes they made since the first?
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>>148963116
I haven't been phantom ranged by the pre-nerf rolling 2h rolling R1, but I have been hit by the post-nerf 1h rolling R1.

>>148963147
only on pc. faggot ps4cucks are more popular than ever with 42k unique players in the last 24 hours
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>>148963147
Which game?
How so?
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>>148963219
>having no true combos
r1 l1 is true combo for most powerstanced weapons.
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>>148963273
only for poke-type like double rapier or double spear
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>>148963329
And for straightswords and axes and hammers.
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>tfw nobody will decide for me whether or not i should slab my avelyn
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>>148963226
I have not heard of such news, but I sincerely hope so.
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>>148963473
Do it, you slut.
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>>148963329
No. Actually i don't think those combo, though rapiers can do l1 r1 sometimes.
It comboed for straightswords and greatswords, mainly.
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>>148963473
If you're talking about DS3, then your +10 avelyn will still count towards your weapon memory.
If everything else on your build is fully decked out then I see no reason not to slab your avelyn.
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>>148963219
Because it was fun.
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>>148963473
>tfw nobody will drop me Forlorn Armor
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What do you consider gwindolin trap? Ladyboy? Something else?
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>>148963703
wife (male)
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>>148963635
>that damage
Oh lawd
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>>148963703
The Hitler of Dark Souls. Aldrich did the world a favour.
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>>148963778
Power stancing STR weapons was so fun.
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>>148963703
He's a dude in girl's clothing. He doesn't do it by choice, it was imposed on him by his parents and his upbringing. He's 100% male, not some tranny hybrid monstrosity, and doesn't declare himself as anything other than male. He's just a crossdresser.
>>
>>148963635
Do you have any webms of the Smelter + Nil fire tornado?
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>>148963703
Cute
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>>148963553
She will make you her slut
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>>148963845
To be fair, the black Dragonrider didn't have much health. I three-shot him with an unupgraded Blacksmith Hammer
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>>148963902
Yeah, but just flailing at thin air.
>>148964025
I know, I always murder that one first because of that.
>>
What are your thoughts on the weapon classes in regards to how balanced and 'viable' they are for PvE and PvP /dsg/? I'm bored so I'll give my thoughts.

>Daggers: Generally alright with a good 2HR1 on most and decent AR for their weight and sped with some very mediocre exceptions like the Harpe, Hornet Ring crit buff might've been over the top but that's more a problem with the ring then the daggers themselves
>Straight Swords: Generally too much AR across the board save for a few exceptions like the Cleric's Candlestick, only the Dark Sword or a 40/40/40 Anri's should have above 400 AR
>Greatswords: Very well-balanced. The lack of hyperarmor on 1H attacks makes them not as viable. 2H HA though along with the terrific AR of the best GS that outpaces even some great weapons makes them very viable however. Only really 'bad' ones are the Drakeblood and Executioner's due to range/split damage and lack of infusability respectively
>Ultra GS: Best 'great weapon' class relatively. Top ones like the Profaned and Astora actually have reasonably good AR that make them good for trading with HA, but the slow swing speed, stamina costs and recovery frames still leaves them vulnerable to a good player using a faster weapon. UGS without a thrusting R2 though have a distinct weakness however even with along with their lesser AR.
>Curved Swords: Terrific and underrated as a whole since the launch of the game. Even ignoring the Carthus the 2HR1 of all CS weapons are the fastest attacks in the game and have almost no recovery frames, which along with a terrific 2H running attack makes them one of the few classes viable for aggressive play while being masters of defense. Only really weak CS is the Painting Guardian due to its range. Needs a decent AR nerf for all other CS and a slowed down 2HR1 or increased recovery time.
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>>148964065
>instead of this we got perseverance on Greathammers
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>>148963902
>ever using nil in powerstance when its potential is all in the 2 handed moveset
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>>148964065
>playing as a caster
>get summoned for duoriders
>crystal spear the black one to death before the host can touch the red one
I FEEL SO USEFUL
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>>148964161
>some dinky estoc comes to mash R1 in my face
>use Perseverance
>they bounce off, fuck yeah time to punish
>Pers4everance animation has greathammer slammed into the ground, creating a shockwave
>this shockwave interrupts the bounce-off stun with a tiny little baby stagger
>they recover from this stagger instantly and escape my R1
They really, really, really didn't want Greathammers to be good, holy shit.
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>>148964080
>Viable: Fast and good
>Garbage: Slow and shit

There. Don't delude yourself.
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fuck you parryfags, fight with a skill not one button press for 90% of health
>but it is very hard and advanced move for veteran players
>git gud
>sad loserfag
>dumb frogposter
eat shit cunts
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>3v1 gank
>Seed of giants active
>Dark sword + 2kat + Gothards
>Passive-reactionary playstyle
brb buying a gun
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>>148964195
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>>148964332
i feel the same way

Parries are fine and punish predictability. lucky hornet ring faggots are not cool whatsoever
>>
>>148964431
why does nameless seem like such a humourless tryhard
I imagine at parties while gwyn and seath and laughing away, he's just in the corner brooding
>>
>>148964461
What if you use a hornet ring to fight gankers?
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>>148964065
they could have made it so L1 when dual wielding weapons was an unique but nooooo. What do we fucking get? Block with a parrying dagger.
"A"-Team at its fucking best.
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>>148964161
2's my least favorite of the games but I still had a great time with it. I miss some of its items/spells/mechanics.
>>
>>148964080

Continued:

>Katanas: Honestly the most well-balanced in the Souls series in 3. About the AR they should have considering their slow basic attacks, with only the running and rolling attacks having a noticeably faster speed. There's a reason you don't see anyone use katanas outside of the Washing Pole and Chaos Blade however, and that's because there's no difference in any of their movesets aside from the Berserker Blade's. Considering a Washing Pole and Chaos Blade are both shut down by a 100% defense medium shield as well this isn't too bad, but the main problem of this class is the lack of variety in attacks, otherwise fine.
>Curved Greatswords: One of the weakest great weapon classes. Slow as shit, which would be fine if the 2HR1 was unparryable, but it isn't and can be parried on reaction alone. Objectively no weapon to not use the Exile GS over the Murakumo/Carthus GS. Old Wolf at least has the full weapon art combo going for it but even then the problems of the weapon class don't make it have much going for it.
>Rapiers: Really good as a whole but boring. Not much else to say.
>Axes: Too little AR and speed compared to Straight Swords makes them very lacking with the Dragonslayer's Axe being a noticeable exception, and only with certain builds.
>Greataxes: Second tier for ultra weapons, are hamstrung by poor AR comparatively to the top ultra or terrible stamina costs as with Yhorm's and the BKGA. Limited moveset on all save the BKGA also hurts.
>Hammers: So bad they're not even funny. Only viable ones are the ones with perseverance and even then almost anyone can outrange you or wait it out. Need a desperate amount of buffs for everything.
>Great Hammers: Worst ultra class. Worst AR on the whole, absolutely terrible movesets aside from 2HR1s, with the one exception being the Great Club's R2s, with the worst WA on average. Perseverance on things like Smough's don't even give enough stun time to actually get a hit in. Needs many buffs.
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>>148964431
so that's the secret of his power, he traded beard for hair
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>>148964615
he's "that" son
>>
>>148964385
>passive ganksquads
For what purpose? Do they think you're going to charge into a 3v1?
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>>148963703
Literally just a man in drag
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>washing pole
>balanced
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>>148964624
it's kind of a necessary evil honestly. if you really can win a gank by using a hornet ring then go for it, but just know you're committing a sin.

the hornet ring should not apply to greatweapons, and greatweapons in general should get a global 10% reduction to riposte/backstab damage.
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>>148964798
It's very balanced compared to Gotthards and 2kat.
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>>148964919
But it's better than both of them.
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>>148964760
It seems like most gankers are so used to gettting their shit pushed in 1v1, that they forget about their numbers advantage.
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>>148963703
waifu
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>>148964702
Could've gotten away typing a whole lot less just saying straight swords are better than everything
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So why does my sign disappear when I move through certain areas again?
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>>148965420
because q-team is great at game development
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>>148965420

If you move too far into an offline area that happens.
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>>148964702

Fists/Claws: AR increases in previous patches did not fix the underlying problem in that the movesets aside from L1s and running L1s have far too much wind-up and do not move the character forward in their attacks at all. Entirely reliant on HA/perseverance trades depending on what you're using unless you land that 1k+ combo that will inevitably be nerfed.
>Spears/Pikes: Definitely good, if boring in the vein of rapiers. Noticeably bad exceptions here like with the Saint's Bident and the abominable state of the Greatlance, but as a whole the class is serviceable and will work well in the hands of defensive/passive players.
>Halberds: Best weapon class up there with Curved Swords just for the HA on 2HR1s makes them trading nightmares that can outrange even ultra weapons easily. Could do a slight AR nerf for the top ones and maybe additional recovery time on R1s.
>Reapers: Not as bad as people say, there main problem however is just not being as fast as Straight Swords while not having the HA of Greatswords/ultras. Needs a buff in one of those directions, and a reason to use any Reaper besides the Corvian because it is just objectively better then the other two in its class.
>Whips: Awful. Can't get 2hit combos. Only useful for WA and rolling R1 when rolling away constantly, and even then you'll only kill great weapon users on average. Needs attack speed buffs more then anything along with increased range on some attacks, it's pathetic how little range most of the actual attacks have aside from the WA.
>Bows: Good for cheesing in PvE, not useful in PvP save for the Composite Bow, and like with whips even then you'll only kill ultra users reliably with them.
>Greatbows: Absolute garbage and only good for knocking people down in areas with cliffs.
>Crossbows: Surprisingly great, good sidearm for all builds to carry to pop hits in.

>>148965242

Anon I'm really bored, I'm sorry. Also I would change 'straight swords' to 'curved swords' personally.
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In DaS2, at the empty platform below Eygil's Idol bonfire, why are there so many blood stains? I'm talking about the completely empty platform between the first ladder and second ladder.
I have SotFS but I'm playing on PS3, so the answer isn't "NPC invaders".
And how the fuck do you get to all those chests in lava? Small Orange Burr doesn't do shit.
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>>148965542
>And how the fuck do you get to all those chests in lava?
Flash sweat + the water-filled jars

And I think there is a red phantom turtle knight on that platform in NG+
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>>148965542
I think NG+ adds a BP there.

Fire resistant armor, burr, flash sweat, rolling through the jars all help. Try smelter's or alonne knight.
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>>148965542
NG+ adds a red phantom NPC there with the turtle armor and a greathammer. He wrecks people's shit quite often.

You can survive the lava rock runs by stacking fire defense. That area is basically a tutorial on how elemental defenses work in that game. It's a %-based reduction that stacks up to a max of 75% (at 750 defense), so just stack on as much fire defense as possible and chug lifegems as you cross the rocks. One of the high fire defense sets (like the pyromancer's garb) + an orange burr/flashsweat + the water form those bull-shaped urns should give you roughly enough fire defense to make the trip.
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Whelp, I guess they nerfed the Black Knight Glaive R1>L2>R1 combo.

I just tested it 12 times and the guy I was fighting rolled out after the second hit every time.

GG fromsoft.
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>>148966247
Video proof onegai!!
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>feel like PvP
>summon people past pontiff
>win 1 in 40
well fuck you all too, i didn't want to tryhard anyway
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Reminder of the best ending
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Sunbroing at post-pontiff is dead as fuck.
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>>148966743
anon, i am afraid... that... DS3 is dead untill the DLC ;_;
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>>148966743
sunbro pontiff them idiot
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>>148966672
Full pic where
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>tfw finally won a duel unembered

christ. anybody wanna co-op the whole fucking game so i can get some embers please
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>>148966485
You're better off getting summoned. That way you don't have to waste your embers.
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>>148966672
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>>148966893
You can have a reupload [spoilerhttp://i.imgur.com/6Yff7BD.jpg[/spoiler]
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>>148898465
Cute soles
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>>148967053
Good spoiler
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>>148966957
Platform? I can drop some embers for you if you're on ps4.
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dude what the fuck

anyone notice they cant combo as well after today's patch? i havent landed a single fucking 2hit combo with any heavy weapon today
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>>148967053
Thanks anon. The lack of Sirris r34 is slowly killing me
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>>148967136
PC

Thanks though, I appreciate the thought.
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>need to kill two more Forlorn
>they just don't want to invade me
Of course. The one time I WANT them to invade.
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>BaoBaoNA

I will expose Carthus abusers :~)
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>>148967053
>Sirris

Yes
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>>148967251
i can drop you some. i don't need mine
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>>148967142

>i havent landed a single fucking 2hit combo with any heavy weapon today

I haven't tried yet but if they actually nerfed ultra weapon combos I'm seriously done with this game until the DLC just to play that once.
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>>148964065
Can you quick attack with that?
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>>148967649
dsgember
tower on the wall
ill put my red sign down
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Hey I just finished the game, anybody want some specific armor/weapon/ring on PC ?
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>>148967125
I manually type my spoilers

What can I say
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>>148968054
You can say "I'll stop manually typing spoilers and use ctrl+s"
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>>148968054
Why don't you just press CTRL + S
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>>148967726
can't see it. i put down my own sign too
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>>148968187
>>148968176
>admitting to being a peasant without dexterity
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>>148968261
>Wasting your time manually typing that shit
lmao get a life kid lol
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>>148968410
>not being NEET enough to the point where you can type [spoilers]super quickly on the keyboard[/spoiler]
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>>148964637
I would be ok if L1 is the normal (full) moveset and L2 is the WA.
Can't believe they fucked it up so badly.
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>>148968240
jesus fucking christ you just dropped me 100 embers basically

also since when have you been able to drop soul items? niggers fucking lied to me REEEEEEEEEEE

>>148968410
>literally sub-2seconds
>waste of time

gitgitgit gudgudgud
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>>148968261
>Slowly typing out takes more dexterity than pressing Crtl+s
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oh my god i love picking up my souls after failing an invasion, it's so much fun! what an amazing idea!
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>>148964212
>looking up miracles in DaS2
>miracle-users can purge poison from themselves and all those around them, including caked-on poison from pools
>miracle-users can spam down the pursuer with lightning bolts
>miracle-users can pop any number of buffs for combat
>miracle-users can cast a spell that creates a huge screaming eye that finds any invaders
>because of how pyromancy works in DaS2, you just swap over and gain full benefit of any pyro spells you happen to get ahold of
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>>148968568
>try to spoiler funny meme
>accidentally miss and hit alt+f4
>now you have to retart internet explorer and search "four chan video game generals dark souls" in the search bar on bing

lmao ctrl+sfags. when will you learn?
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>>148968514
i don't know why i didn't drop 99, actually
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>>148968710
heheh
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>>148968637
>the massive fucking range on bountiful and soothing sunlight
Oh how I miss it.
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>>148968710
Great post my friend, I would give you an Upvote if I could!
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>>148968823
because you're a kind soul and i love you forever
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>>148968710
Haha classic 4chan meme, I love copy pasta and retro internet references
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>areas are really frustrating
>bosses are easy as hell

It's like I'm playing Demon's Souls all over again. That fight was at least a bit fun, unlike the last cuck.
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Is the extra healing from Soothing Sunlight over Bountiful Sunlight worth the extra slot?

Also does Soothing Sunlight heal enemies/invaders?
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>>148969123
i fucking love dark souls 2 areas desu
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>>148969257

With high faith, Soothing can heal like a thousand HP. Bountiful heals about 600ish. Soothing is probably better just because it costs less attunement.
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>>148969360
But all of the non-DLC areas are complete trash.
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Of all the changes 3 boyght, rolling out of gestures makes me the angriest. Every single time I invade or get invaded the other faggot waves or does some other stupid shitwhose ratardation I can only punish with a silly knife.
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>>148969580
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fcDvDoNwQQ
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>>148969123
I can only stomach hard bosses if the bonfire is right next to it.
DaS1 had WAY too much unfun runs.
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Das III DLC when? Do you think they will add power-stance back? That was like the best thing of Das II.
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Interesting lore theory for dark souls and hollowing. I think it's in german but I don't know if there are subtitles or anything.
https://youtu.be/nle6qMOpGus
I think it's interesting as fuck guys
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Some people say Astraea did nothing wrong. Me? I'm still screaming.
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FUCK PASSWORDS
FUCK INVASIONS
FUCK THIS GAME
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>>148969986
Non dual wielding power stance was the best thing.
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>>148969986
>broken, incomplete, not even that good mechanic from DaS2 should be back
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>>148969986
>Das III DLC when?
no clue. im guessing a month or two from now.
>Do you think they will add power-stance back?
highly unlikely. they've never added extra mechanics with dlc.
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>>148969986
Fall 2016 and Spring 2017
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Who has that pic with DS2 Weapons tier list including DLC?
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>>148970126
You wouldn't even exist if she didn't do what she did.
>>
Lies perpetuated by quality shitters:

>Y-you need to invest more points for the higher damage!

Knight base

>66 STR - 53 points needed
>40/40 STR/DEX - 55 points needed
>35/35 STR/DEX (Still has higher AR on most weapons compared to heavy infusion 66STR) - 45 points need
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>>148970095
Mind translating?
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Why are they allowed in the game ?
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>>148970445
All this would be solved if From made caps of INT/FTH work for STR/DEX and maybe LCK.
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I was just summoned to this guy wearing a mix of havel's armour, silver armour and smth and after getting him to really low health he sipped, I ran outside of the sully arena and went for the giants and popped a fucking seed. I immediately BC out but holy shit I WAS SUMMONED TO YOUR WORLD AND YOU SIP AND THEN YOU EVEN DARE TO POP A SEED
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>>148970357
Yeah, her demonic menstruation has done wonders for the Valley of Defilement.
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>>148970445
QUALITY IS BALANCED
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>>148970445
i doubt there is anyway that can balance quality at this point
the best we can hope for is that they release a bunch of good weapons in the dlc that are pure str or pure dex that benefit from going up to 66/60 of the stat
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>>148970709

you were probably using cheap tactics
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If I a Forlorn dies in the host's world while I'm co-oping with them, will that count towards getting its set?
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>>148970615
You can hit the sentries, they die in a single arrow/lightning bolt.
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>>148970709
>duelfag thinks people should follow his dumb rules
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>>148970445
who cares?
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>>148970769
I fought him with a greathammer
A GREATHAMMER.
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>>148970709
I dunno man, his items aren't greyed out. Why can't he use them?
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>>148970445
Should do what they did in demon's souls. Cap strength and dex at 50.
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>>148970709

He probably did it to...

...wait for it...

...annoy you!
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>>148970615
just backstab them, anon. these guys are far more annoying.
>those grab chains
>that stomp that hits like a truck
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>>148970846
>>148970925
>>148971018
He wasted a seed, I don't even care, it's the estus that gets me, it's literally impossible to punish so you either play perfectly or get out-estus'd since they have 2x estus. If I'm invading I'll estus all I want, but he summoned me.
>>
Do greatscythes perform better one handed or two handed?
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>>148971108

They can be backstabbed?

God damn it
>>
What did the Old Demon King do to deserve to be dumped in the worst spot in the entire game and he's not even placed at the end of the area, no, he gets dumped right at the start, somewhere to the side so that people don't have to play through that area at all.
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>>148970615
[strange singing noises]
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>>148970445
So, how does a STR/DEX build is any different from a quality one? Given the softcap always allowed for any weapon as long as you two hand it, there are no gameplay differences from going quality or not save for cast speed. There's no reason for me to care if my Yhorm opponent gas 66 STR or not because he'll play the same way.
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>>148970709
>honour
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>>148971272
1hr1s for speed and good range, 1hr2 for deadangling parry fishers, 2hr1 for massive range, 2hr2 for speed
>>
Don't go to Anor Londo in Ds1 this afternoon some of you guys are al.... eh nvm ur all gaywads go to londo and give me ur humanity
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>>148971471
Thank you gold armoured knight
I kick you off the firelink shrine everytime.
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>>148971349
He existed.
Demons are unnatural and even though his end is way too brutal as he outlived his entire species, someone needed to carry out their genocide as they are unnatural beings that never meant to exist.
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>>148961293
You seriously walk on air. Adjust the lift so the broken part aligns with the distant balcony and walk on air
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>>148971549
>not killing him in his cell
what a pussy
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>>148971508
don't worry i don't play that trash
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>>148971385
It's just a huge waste of points for every strength weapon below A scaling. People only do it because there's nowhere else to put your 30+ extra points as a 120.
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>>148971471
>fake yurt
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>>148971595
Are they unnatural? I barely know dick about lore, but didn't they just pop outta the flame?
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>>148971718
a shitter like yourself would be carrying 0 humanity anyway, nothing to steal

plus I'd feel bad killing a drake sword babby
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>>148971703
What the shit. I'm gonna have to reinstall just to try it. Is there anything interesting there?
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>>148971709
>honour
:^)
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>>148971872
>he never played in ds1
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>>148971872
The chaos flame, which is unnatural, and a failed recreation of the first flame
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Daily reminder that the followings are still not in the game:

-Twin GS
-Twin UGS
-Twin Curved GS
-Twin G Hammers
-Twin Rapiers
-Twin Whips
-Twin XBows
-Dragonslayer Great XBow
-Any sort of Whip Blade
-Silver Knight weapons
-Ciaran's Set
-Unique Pontiff Twin GS
-Gough's Great Bow

And many more.
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If anybody can buy Forlorn Armor at 1.6m SM and drop it for me on PC I'd be really fucking greatful.
The Forlorn absolutely refuse to invade me anymore. And before you ask, yes I nullified the effigy effects.
>>
>wearing blade of darkmoon since it's the only covenant left to rank up.
>holy shit im being summoned!!!
>host is being attacked by a red.
>swing at red to help host.
>Sent Home by Way of Blue adherrent.

why?
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>>148971897
now THIS is shitposting
>>
Are there any greatswords/UGS that are somewhat good in this game?
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>>148972048
teh epic troll lulz xD
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>>148972103
no
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>>148971850
>hors d'oeuvres
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>>148972103
no
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>>148972048
Dishonour, you broke bushido.
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>>148971719
So why make a STR build at higher levels if there's no mechanical diferences?
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>>148972078
Trying to cover up your trembling fear with a macho persona, not gonna work on me gargoyle helm wearing bozo. you look like an idiot take that shit off
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>>148970709
Kill them all, bait the host in amidst the pile, and then use Dead Again.
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Haven't done these in a while
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>>148972297
i don't play the game
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>>148972297
Please, leave.
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>>148971349
>he gets dumped right at the start

That always confused me, why exactly he was just there at the start. Then again, the Demon Ruins is a shitty level t begin with.
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>>148972347
>no 212

shit word sphere

by the way has anyone even seen the poiseking? he hasnt hosted a demon ruins fc in a couple days now
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>>148972335
Anon, the giants and the priests don't leave a body and the host wasn't that stupid to actually follow me

Wait no he is, he's just too scared.
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>>148972392
gargoyle helm diss hit a little close to home bedwetter?
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>>148972103

Greatswords are nearly all good if not terrific.

UGS that are 'good' are Profaned, Astora and Lothric Knight GS.
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>>148964657
>using a chime
>leveling faith
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>>148972548
>greatswords
>nearly all good
yeaaaaa no
only good ones are
-hollowslayer
-claymore
-black knight sword
-maybe MAYBE greatsword of judgement (but requires a very specific build)
>>
So we all agree that

Age of Deep > Age of Ancients > Retards
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>>148971930
I did! Although, I never read item descriptions and I'm not some faggot who watched meme videos. And, worst and most shameful of all, my computer shit itself when I was on Demon Firesage and I lost my save, so I've never had the patience to play all the way through again.
>>
>>148972209
There's literally no reason to. Everybody just wants their 40/40/40/40 zero variety fighting games, then proceed to complain about the game having no variety. They don't want to take risks when making a build or having to think about what the enemy's stats could be depending on how he plays and what he uses. They just want to spin in circles with resin'd washing poles on their Skyrim character with every stat softcapped.
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>>148972548
Great swords are shit. They are all outclassed by the AGS, and it is an UGS.
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>>148972035
Save editor?
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>>148972663
>maybe MAYBE greatsword of judgement
i use it on a quality build with a ring on to boost me up to the int requirement and i do quite well with it
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>>148972512
gargoyle helm is good
>>
lucifer sucks at pvp and spams r1 with a straight sword
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>>148972209
Variety.
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>>148971981

>No rapier/curved sword twin combo

I'll never get my OP powerstance build back from DS2
>>
>>148972663

Wolnir's is decent at the very least since the buff, and the Firelink, Twin Princes, and MLGS are also alright though not as good as the top ones you mentioned. The 2H hyperarmor on GS attacks makes them all good since they can actually trade with faster weapons while not being as horribly slow or stat inefficient as ultra weapons. The only bad Greatswords I'd say are the Drakeblood because of it's shit range and split damage, the Flamberge for just being a Bastard Sword with bleed and nothing else, and the Executioner's for not being infusable.
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>>148972846
as does the majority of the community, amazing.
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>>148972846
Actually, I think I use R2 more than R1, and even if I suck, I am still better than 99.999% of /dsg/.
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>>148972728

Anyone using a GS can roll around an Astora until an opening presents itself since they are faster and also have HA on 2H attacks. A Black Knight Sword alone can invalidate every other ultra weapon including the AGS with perseverance.
>>
>>148972905
This?
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>>148971981
Reminder even BoM/Rakuyo have no left hand only combo and From has no intention of ever making a dual wielding weapon whose main draw is different movesets intead of hur, I hit you with two blades instead of one.
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>>148972837
It looks retarded and it doesn't matter what stats a thing has if you look bad in it, you look like shit then you play like shit it's very simple
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>>148972663
I thought the flamberge was just a better claymore? Or did they change the damage around?
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>>148972612
>Have an inherent dislike of the flavor behind the cleric class
>It's the best class if you want to use miracles, even if you want to spec heavy into combat
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>>148973191
k
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Why is ENB such a fucking faggot
When did OnlyMemes turn into a tranny
Why is Iron Pineapples still not funny
Why is all dark souls memestreamers and memetubers so shit
>>
>>148973198
flamberge has less damage than claymore 40/40 refined and flamberge has no thrusts in it's moveset
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>>148973038
If you use R2s you suck major dick and are not better than most of /dsg/.
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>>148973038
>I am still better than 99.999% of /dsg/
lol
>>
>>148973198

No, Flamberge has slightly worse damage then a Claymore with 40/40 Refined on both, plus no thrust attacks. It's only other difference is bleed which it will never inflict even with 40 Luck because it's a fucking Greatsword. The thrust attacks are the main weakness however since 2H thrust attacks on Greatswords have hyper armor, which with Leo Ring can often lead to around 1k damage depending on the charge.
>>
>>148971906
>>148971709
>implying

>talk to him enough to get the "open" prompt
>shank him with the halberd through the bars
that's for shanking my bonfire through the bars
>>
>>148973278
Because only children and retards watch YouTube and streams. If you wanna make autismbux you gotta pander to them.
>>
>>148973278
Dark Souls is not funny to watch.
>>
>>148973278
>dark souls content creators
>existing anymore
they're pretty much all given up on ds3
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>>148972663
GSoJ has 529 AR on a 40/40/14. 619 buffed. It's not that bad. It gets like 20 AR for going Int
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>>148973309
>>148973405
that's annoying, flamberge is my favourite greatsword in DeS and DaSII
>>
>>148972347
>meta always fight wrong.

thats actually some wisdom right here.
>>
>tfw "good" players are more predictable than anyone else

reminder that dark souls chessplayers are the most predictable of all because they're always trying to guess what you'll do next instead of actually paying attention to what's in front of them
>>
>>148973278
how is ENB a faggot and onlyafro is literally a tranny?
>>
>>148973064
Just kite out perseverance then rekt their asses with AGS's pokes.

>>148973320
>If you use weapons and don't just let me hit you instead then you suck

See, it's because of scrubs like you infesting these threads that I am so much better than /dsg/.
>>
>>148973484

>tfw I was thinking of making a STR/INT build with the GSoJ since that actually seems like a unique build in 3
>the weapon is just better quality with base INT anyway

This game is depressing.
>>
>>148973218
>cleric
>good for miracles
no shit, sherlock
>bishop havel the rock
>not a cleric
>implying
>>
>>148973469
>emmarel and vageta will never make another ds video
at least we have martyrsbrigade...
>>
>>148973652
DEX/INT is better for it, since you don't have to use the sage ring for spells and you can use the crescent moon sword as a sidearm.
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>>148973586
What you said made no sense. You're not going to hit anyone with a brain with a R2. Specially Astora's R2.
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>>148972612
IT WAS ALL TO STRIP TRINKETS OFF THEIR CORPSES
>>
In DaS2, I have 40 INT and 40 FTH, should I use a fire weapon or dark weapon?
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>>148973821
>emmarel hasn't made a new video in 4 months despite the release of dark souls 3
this is the only dark souls 3 content he made
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>>148973821
I want emmarel back.
>>
>>148973652
>pontiff is a space pope from hell
>even his weapons are better quality
makes u think...
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>>148973930
Depends on what you're fighting.

In pvp probably dark.
>>
How do I git gud at lag-parrying? It's really incosistent. Like I can parry in PvE but PvP is completely different welp
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>>148974128
practice

ill let you practice on me
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>>148973930
dump faith and attune evacuate, gtfo there and back to a good game
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>>148973582
The thing is, if it is working then there is no reason to stop. It doesn't matter if it is predictable if you can't stop them.

It's like bitching about someone spamming throws in a fighting game. Even if you know it's coming, they have no reason to stop until you start punishing them for trying it.

Calling something predictable isn't a magical word that forces someone to stop doing something.

>>148973897
I didn't say a fully charged R2. You know you can let them off early, right?
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>>148972612
Is there a single video game character that is better than Patches?
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>>148974196
PS4?
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>>148973278

What has changed about ENB? Unless you always considered him a faggot but then you shouldn't be surprised about it anymore

I mean I literally do not give a single fuck about his hearthstone videos but I get why he is already burned out of 3
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>>148974320
Oh, you're shit out of luck friend.

>tfw have ps4 but no das3 and no PS-----
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>>148974305
UNBUREAKABURU PATUCHESU
>>
>>148974305
Elvis from God Hand.

>>148974343
He sold out and basically lied to people to get them to buy a guide he helped make. He also lied about the quality of vanilla DaS2 to get people to buy it.
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>>148974343
His DS1 dick riding is tiring
>>
https://my.mixtape.moe/rqebwx.webm
NOTHING

>>148974258
>You know you can let them off early, right?
I also know they have a huge windup regardless of charge time and only stupid people fall for them.
>>
>>148974206
>dark souls 3
>good
LMFAO
>>
Why are the twin princes piss easy with melee but unbearably difficult on a mage?
>>
>>148974305
FEEBLE FUCK comes close. if only he'd actually be a dick to the player instead of just insulting them. or at least comment on your stats/gear
>>
>>148972726
No, I mean, fighting a 60 dex or 40/40. Chaos blade user has no gameplay difference besides damage, so changing quality damage around has little effect. It's not the case with 60 int or 40/40, quality is literally a str or dex build with different damage, period, changing numbers around and making 60 str or dex builds do more damage would add nothing to the game or its variety.
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>>148973278
>Why is ENB such a fucking faggot
ENB is okay aside from giving up on DS3 (which I understand, he's burnt the fuck out).

Also, anyone have the Oceiros version of this edit?
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>>148974621
who said dark souls 3?
it's also better than 2 anyway
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>>148974439
damn, thanks anyway however
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>>148974558
>https://my.mixtape.moe/rqebwx.webm
fuck stop posting these, they make me so angry
>>
>>148974712
rofl no
>>
>>148974637
For some reason, Lothric can eat CSS like it's nothing. I was astonished at how long it took to whittle him down. Lorian folded like wet paper with my spells, but god damn, Lothric just shrugged that shit off.
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>>148974680
this?
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>>148974789
>DaS2 is better than DaS3
superlative shitposting
>>
>>148974765
Serious question, why? Is it because of the playstyle? Or because of the cringe damage?
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>>148974558
You bait people into them or use them to punish whiffs. They are also pretty good for keeping people out when they are using short weapons.

>>148974637
Because you aren't playing a Pyro. Respecs exist; abuse them.
>>
>>148974886
enjoy your shit game with garbage pvp and pve with no build variety no weapon variety and dying playerbase
>>
>>148974887
the passive-reactive playstyle mainly
god it simultaneously disgusts and irritates me to no end
>>
>>148974789
>liking 2 more than anything
plebius maximus
>>
>>148974548
It's better though
But he rides DeS's dick the most
>>
>>148970474
>Anonymous
I dunno maybe just send a mail to this youtube channel or something and ask him
>>
>>148974797
>magic oriented character resists magic

Stop the fucking presses. Why don't you fireball ODK or Sunlight spear NK?
>>
>>148974990
you just described DaS2
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>>148974953
How do you bait people into a R2? I want to see this. I doubt it work against a smart player. I have never been hit by a AGS or Claymore R2 except in laggy hyper armor situations.
>>
>>148975210
>I have never X

liar
>>
>>148974953
>Because you aren't playing a Pyro. Respecs exist; abuse them.
I've killed them on pyro. But the whole point of playing a mage is to well, play a mage, rather than a pyro.
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>invade in sea snipper swamp
>see heysel walking around
>attack heysel because I always get pissed off when I can't kill her because I get gangfucked by watchdogs
>host uses it as an opportunity to try and ambush me from behind

You little shit I never felt better chugging estus in my life
>>
>>148975017
Sadly, dark souls 3 pvp is dark souls 2 pvp at 1.5x speed. It's the best it's gonna get. It's so effective in fact that I can win duels with a +0 version of the worst katana in the game that offers no mixup opening, all it has is the running R1 and it's the worst of them all.
>>
>>148975110
Holy fuck sick burn except none of those relate to DS2.
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>>148975210
you stay out of range and behind your shield and then when the guy throws out an r2 out of boredom you say you baited him
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>>148975519
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>>148975110
>ds3 apologist this bootyblasted
>>
>>148974654
Some people just want to win, or like RULES OF NATURE, it's just a cosplay build who happens to use chaos blade. He's already 40 vig 40 end and 40 dex and has nowhere else to put his stats anyway because lmao120, so he just threw the rest of his points into the only thing that really helped him. The gameplay difference is that instead of having 420 AR as a 40/40 chaos blade, they'll be hitting slightly harder as a 16/60 with 444 AR and their opponent will have play slightly more carefully. That's it. That's the closest thing to variety you can get at 120.
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>>148975520
Basically, you do something that provokes them into throwing out a whiff or sprinting at you. Or just aim for a trade, which an AGS will almost always win.
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>>148974869
>>148974680
>people not only post but actually request my shitty ass meme
oh boy
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>>148975031
>ds1 is better meme
kys
>>
>>148975450
i was just starting to enjoy dark souls 3 pvp and learning how to play against each individual weapon, and then comes in the very bane of my existence which is playing passive-reactive
i want to cry

still though there's nothing that can defend against darkdrift so you have that going for you
>>
>>148975315
Then you really don't have a right to complain about their difficulty.
>>
>tfw you discover the hard counter to glaive faggots

lmaoavelyn
>>
>>148975731
Sounds titillating
>>
>>148975914
I'm not complaining. I like difficult bosses.
>>
>>148975821
>kys
Were you already done with elementary school when 1 came out?
>>
>>148975961
I was using kukris myself. A headshot kukri does 300 damage on them.
>>
Haven't played since release.
Why is everyone using bleed and the shitty double katana?
>>
>>148976042
regular avelyn burst does 200
>>
>>148975821
Shit taste alert everybody! shit taste right here!
>>
>>148975872
>i was just starting to enjoy dark souls 3 pvp
Teach me your ways, senpai. I can't stop spamming katana running R1s.
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>>148975821
>>
[PC] Anyone here wants to do a dried finger run on NG+ in about 20 mins?
>All bosses except demon king for FCs
>I'm doing greirat's and sieg's quest so this might slow down the run a bit.
>>
>>148976008
Fair enough. Have fun.

>>148976003
It is actually, especially since I also play more aggressively with the LKSw and can swap between them on the fly to keep them guessing and counter whatever they are trying to do at the time.
>>
>>148976106
Allow yousrelf to get hit by the weebjump weapon art once.

Just once.

>>148976246
Please.
>>
>>148976246
Are you level 212?
>>
>>148976192
>Teach me your ways, senpai. I can't stop spamming katana running R1s.
it mainly involves trying out a boatload of weapons and then taking the most promising ones out of that and slab-ing
that along with practicing my parries and landing them (i have no idea why people would use hornet ring when regular riposte is so fucking gorgeous) has made pvp enjoyable

now when i run into passive-reactive people i just black-crystal out but it leaves me in such a sour mood afterwards
>>
>>148976106
Onikiri got a decent buff to the L2 to the point where it can actually land once in a blue moon instead of just never landing ever. The L2 also stuns into 2 more L1s, which is basically a guaranteed bleed with carthus rouge. Metashitters gave up on straight swords mostly and now all ran crying to the washing pole and CCS, with the latter also being buffed with Rouge for even more bleed.
>>
>>148976270
>keep them guessing
>says he hardswaps so weapons are on hand all the time
lmao, care for a duel on ps4? I want to see this shit live.
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waifu souls
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>>148976360
No, I am.
>>
>>148975706
So changing quality won't improve the game at all, which was my original point.
>>
>>148976581
Could you stop posting for just a week?
>>
the nexus>DaS firelink>Majula>DaSIII firelink
>>
>>148976608
learn to speak english, abdulah
>>
>>148976508
I don't hardswap on my Quality build. I only hs on my Pyro, but I have never used the Pyro in PvP.
>>
>>148976360
no
>>
>>148976686
majula > nexus > firelink > 3 firelink
>>
>>148976686
No hub best hub.
Secret betrayal best ost though.
>>
>>148974258
Aren't charged r2's for roll catching?
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wew lads wew

Just killed the dope pope on my first ever SL1 run. His shadow is a giganigger when he desyncs. I can't wait to never do this again.
>>
>>148977234
GET THE PROFANED UGS

WE CAN BE SL1 BUDDIES
>>
>>148976475
I already have all weapons slabbed on my characters and tried almost all of them, except Glaives. The game balance is... not great.
>>
>>148977150
I really only use fully charged ones for trades or catching people as the come around a corner.
>>
>leo ring avelyn explosive bolt fire clutch
>774 damage

did I just discover a new meta? jesus FUCKING christ
>>
>>148977312
>tfw when I did but on PS4
d-damn
>>
>>148976616
At 120, it won't. At 90 or 100 it would force players to lower their vig (ability to make mistakes and survive a bit longer) or end (ability to play aggressive and avoid damage more reliably).

Quality builds would be forced to either:
>reduce their health to keep their endurance high, effectively making them a high sustain DPS glass cannon
>reduce their stamina to become a high burst damage build with poor survivability, forcing them to play more reserved and slower
>reduce one of their damaging stats to have decent health and stamina, becoming a well rounded build but not being as focused on putting out extreme damage

I'm just trying to show players why 120 is a fucking dumb meta that butchered variety in both pvp and co-op. If Fromsoft wanted every build to be the exact same, they wouldn't have added 10 different starting classes to the game.
>>
>>148977312
The propane sword is fun as fuck, but I'm paranoid about not being able to manage stamina with it at 10 end.

Actually, I don't even want to think of how I'm going to dodge all of Aldrich's faggotry and still get hits in afterwards with my puny SL1 stamina bar. Right now I'm just enjoying the victory over Sillyman.
>>
>>148970445
with warrior as a base, 66 STR takes 50 points

>>148970997
fuck off, that would do nothing
heavy STR already scales all the way to 99 and it's still shit
the only change is that the meta would be 140
>>
>>148977234
it's probably useless to you now, but i figured that the real pontiff can do side swipe attacks and their followups independently from the clone. i think instead of doing a followup the real one can sometimes transition into any attack, including the 6 hit combo
>>
>no shield/miracle catalyst that lets you cast with L2

come the fuck on from
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Just sitting here, waiting on a host, his two phantoms and his blue fuckboi.

Why are people so scared of a single invader.

What's more, why don't they just run for the fog wall. It's not like I can stop them if they get to it. They haven't even seen me.

It's been more than 10 minutes, this is great fun.
>>
>>148976718
I still want to see it live.
>>
>summon guy
>one buff
>okay
>starts casting third buff
>duel charm
>BC out

why?

>>148977867

Two swings of the PFUGS is 100 stamina exactly, using the ring of favor brings you to 105 stamina exactly, letting you hit three times or roll after two.
>>
>>148977796
90 or 100 kills magic builds though, because of the 60 soft caps
>>
>>148978078
You broke the rules, of course he'll leave.
>>
>>148978043
I let my PS+ expire until the monthly games stop sucking so you missed your chance, bro.
>>
>>148977995
That would be pretty cool in terms of STR/FTH cleric types, but I imagine the lightning miracles would look pretty silly if there's a giant shield attached to them, unless the shield would disappear for the casting animation similar to WA shields?
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>>148978191
Of course. I'll learn to never take what you say about pvp seriously from now on since you have literally never played it because you've been saying your ps+ expired 3 months ago.
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>>148977683
post web bum
>>
>>148978078
>why?
Because you invalidated his entire build, and that's just not fun. You did nothing wrong, but neither did he.
>>
>>148977995
>>148978224
I honestly truly believe that the Saint Bident should get this.

>>148978316
He wasn't using any builds, he was using items.

Wasn't a single catalyst-based buff. Just resins, grass, and something else.
>>
>>148977796
They'd just go 30/30 then, quite obvious this would be the outcome unless the nerf was so massive anything below 40/40 had no damage.

The class argument makes no sense since even at low levels warrior/pyromancer/knight are your go to classes unless you want very specific things.
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What the fuck
>>
NEW THREAD

>>148978329
>>148978329
>>148978329
>>
>>148977993
I noticed that about the side swipes too, at least one of my deaths was to him doing a surprise followup like that.

>>148978078
Sounds good, I'll try it out.
>>
>>148978135
My 99 magic build plays completely fine. I agree that pyros would be pretty fucked because of the shitty stat point requirement fromsoft set, but pure sorcery mages would play like a mage should. Low health, high spell damage who's vulnerable when somebody gets in his face. The only difference between a 99 and 120 is mage is that the 120 will be just as tanky and have just as much stamina as a quality build, just with spells.
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>>148978587
i gotta see a 99 intellect build

pls post. i bet you oneshot people for days kek
>>
>>148978432
>inb4 disconnect
>>
>>148978292
>posting Naruto
Opinion discarded
>>
>>148975071

I always considered Lothric more of a faith-based character. Like I get Ocerios is resistant, but wouldn't have made that assumption for the prince.
>>
>>148978543
if you want to try different weapons on sl1 run, i recommend Dragonslayer Axe and Barbed Sword for NK - you can probably do it in 2 minutes on NG with those things
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>>148972728
But ScottJund said his European buddy made him rethink how viable greatswords were.
>>
>>148973652
>20 billion split fire/physical weapons with scaling in str/Dex/faith/int
>more AR from quality build and not Pyromancer build on all but one

Sad, really.
>>
>>148981682
Who?
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