/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

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>>148751709

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nth for PURGE.

>>148751709
First for threadly acceptance of ALL hunters. Embrace your true queen. Not saying you have to give her bloody semen, but bend the knee. She the queen.

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>>148751709
4th for best build

>>148752247
I thought the wheel was dumb until I recently learned about the torture method of breaking upon the wheel. Pretty rad.

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>>148752195

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T H R E A D L Y

R E M I N D E R

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>>148752425
>>148753186

VILEBLOOD BROS WW@?

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>>148753595

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>>148753709
They're all dead.

We killed them.

You're next.

I'm gonna fight Maria, anybody wanna tag along?

pass is bbg
i'll ring next to the lamp

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>>148754802
TIME FOR

B U L L Y
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>>148754802
YOU BETTER WAIT UP FOR ME BOYO

Anybody have any good Alfred sliders? Was thinking of doing my first wheel build.

>>148754879
>>148755114
Alright
Its NG+2 by the way
Im ringing as soon as i find out why it won't let me ring next to the lamp

>>148755240
Gotta trigger the fight first. Just go in there, give her a slap on the ass to wake her up, then mark out and you'll be able to ring.

>>148755240
>>148755240
Oh, just move a little forward or back, it's weird sometimes.

>>148755326
>>148755358
Alright, ringing

Nice job guys.
Wanna do Laurence next?

>>148756337
M A X I M U M B U L L Y

Let's go wreck his nasty ass

>>148756337
>NG+2 Laurence

Scary. Let's kick his ass.

>>148756416
Maria loves taking hunters' augurs from behind.

Best origin for a SKL build? And what should be my secondary skill? strength?

>>148756581
Soldier
Pump VIT and SKL, maybe a bit of END but not above 20
If you're going to use BoM, then maybe level a but of arcane for Augur

>>148756581
Usually Professional or Military Veteran. Occasionally Cruel Fate depending if you want to use hunter tools a lot. Honestly though, if you're not retarded, just cycle through the origins in the character planner and pick the one with the lowest level for the stats you want.

As for your secondary skill, should you choose to have one, you have many options. You can go BLT for better use of the Chikage, Rifle Spear, and Reiterpallasch. You can go STR to maximize damage for weapons like the Burial Blade. You can go ARC for hunter tools like the Old Hunter's Bone or Augur. Take your pick.

Is Bloodletter any good?
I want to try something else than the Whirling saw, but I'm afraid the scaling will be like Tonitrus.

How to keep motivation for the BLT grind?

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>>148757515

Ah, almost got him
I'll ring again

>>148757515
The Bloodletter is a top-tier weapon, but it's just like the Chikage. If you don't have high BLT, the tricked form is useless for you.

>>148757515
The Bloodletter is really good. Its dash attack is godlike, it gets a good amount of armor on its moves, and it has the L2. Even the untricked Bloodletter is usable if you have high strength, whereas high skill Chikage is still largely worthless.

And remember, don't respond to tripfags.

>>148757673
Don't, give in to the misery

Ayy anybody here in dire need of some nourishing gems for that sweet split damage boost? Hit me up and join me in some righteous spelunking and savescumming shenanigans.

Thanks a lot Tobias and Gregor, we got him just fine.

Can anyone recommend a good vit-gouge build? As far as I can tell, there's nothing even close to the NR in this game.

>>148758376
Thank you for avenging me, friends

>>148758506
arcane wheel is arguably stronger than NR and needs no stat investment past base stats to use it so vitgouge like crazy, i remember someone posting his arcane wheel build with like 80 vitality

>>148757910
>Even the untricked Bloodletter is usable if you have high strength
That's an understatement. At 50/50 STR/BLT i was hitting for insane numbers in mace form, literally stronger than full chikage blood mode charge. People only using blood mode of that thing is missing out half of the fun.

I DID NOT KNOW THERE WERE RUNNING R2s

FUCK ME

>>148759060
it's moveset sucks though, it;s like a more limited Tonny

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>>148759273
It has a pretty good poke actually. Plus it gives you a free hand for that hot minigun action.

I'm ringin my sinister at Hunter's Nightmare but there's literally no one. Is PvP ded?

>>148760738
level?

>>148760738
Which platform?

>>148760738
Level? Worldwide? No passwords on, no?

I've died to Ludwig 30 times now, 10 of them were in his 25% final wave of doom. What weapon lvl do people normally have at that time?

>>148761090
100
>>148761140
you farted
>>148761213
Ive been summoned by the same guy twice now at least

I have somehow removed the cape from the Yahar'gul garb

Dunno how, but through a cutscene, the Yahar'gul garb's cape vanished

I'm afraid to do anything in case it changes

>>148761739
Post pics

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>>148762840
Here's the back and front without the cap.

Has this ever happened before?

>>148759475
Glad to see people finally accepting it.

>>148759060
>50/50 BT

Living Failures is such a terrible boss fight it's incredible

>1500 damage stake dinners

w-wew

What gems do I want for the Stake Driver?

>>148763882
Why is this?

>>148763882
I like it

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>>148763836
>he doesn't have SL140 builds for comfy high level chalice exploration and fucking with invading SL100+

>>148763882
It's way too easy, but at least it is a visually interestingfight.

>>148763949
Lasts fifteen minutes and the things that an kill you are all infuriating

>>148765056
>lasts fifteen minutes
Why? Can you not parry? They're easy as fuck to just visceral to death.

>>148765207
Not every character has skill investment, or even the claw mark rune

>>148763907
2 abyssal heavy gems, 1 27.2%

>>148765056
Bolt paper, my friend.

>>148765823
>dropped by headless bloodletting beast

oh fuck

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Guys are random 3v1 invasions and FCs still possible?
I abandoned the dream a couple of months ago and I regret it so much...

>>148766721
FCs still happen on Saturdays, our last one died rather early.

The fight club has a Discord if you're interested in that sort of thing. You can find it in the last thread.

3v1s are less common, but they still happen. It helps if you invade someone doing co-op here.

>>148766721
3v1s are always rare but they're still possible. I don't invade much anymore but I did fight a gank squad a few days ago in Mergo's Loft. I bet the DLC has some newbies summoning for Ludwig still so you can try there.

Today I realized Simon is black

Does anyone feel like running through all of Cainhurst with me? I'm a bit underlevelled.
Ringing in the main hall. Pass: bbg

>>148768025
Sure m8, be there in a tic

>>148768025
I'll join

>>148768217
>>148768283
Swell

>>148768283
>>148768217
That's one of two.

>>148769236
Aw shucks, i forgot i went into NG+, i don't have cainhurst summons yet, go on without me

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Heavy abyssals still better than straight physical gems? running 50str/50arc want to play with some dex weapons.

Is it kind of dickish to use the milkweeds' kos parasites L2 even on four people?
Seriously that shit is pretty much an instant kill.

Was that fuckboi Logarius deflecting my Blacksky Eyes?

>>148771707
Dunno. But they certainly weren't having much effect. Up for another try?

>>148771707
You guys need assistance?

I really wanna continue into NG+, but my Chalice Dungeon progress will reset if I do, and I don't wanna spend all that time getting back to FRC dungeons. All the same, I'd like to do something other than Chalice Dungeons.

Why From ;-;

>>148771828
Absolutely, I'm ringing at the Cainhurst lamp

>>148771950
Chalice Dungeon progress doesn't reset. I'm pretty sure all your chalices stay exactly the same.

I'll be there in a second

>>148772017
I'm at the fog

>>148771946
The more the merrier.

>>148771950
Chalices don't reset, my man

>>148772207
Last time I went into NG+ I lost my ability to enter FRC glyphs.

Now all we need is a logarius wheel

Okay scratch that. Whirliblade.

Waiting on you, Dow.

>>148772672
I'm ringing at the lamp, just waiting for it to connect

>>148772853
Nah, come to the fog.

>>148772853
We are at the fog though.

>>148771707
Why didn't you BS him out of his anti-projectile aura?

Thanks a lot, fellas!

>>148773676
That was a fun fight, Kenny Loggins is usually a slog. Glad to help!

Anyone up for MP? Pass is kosm

>>148773676
No problem. Just killed him myself afterwards since I was already at the fog.

>>148774376
Gladly, give me a moment

>>148774376
>Needing help with Moon Presence
>Still saying Kosm

He's a joke dude, just pop a beast pellet, shove your 99 endurance Whirly in his ass and go ham on that L2.

>>148774815
Oh, well, seems I need to kill the Wet Nurse first. Sorry yo.

>>148774376
IT WAS AN HONOUR TO FIGHT BY YOUR SIDE

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>>148775094
What fucking level are you that you were getting scaled down?

>>148775217
BL195 kek

It's my co-op character who can use anything for any occasion.

How do I dodge orphans lightning?

>>148775927
Stay away from its mother and dodge between the bolts.
It is also the best time to backstab him.

>>148775927
You can actually dodge through it with the right timing, it's easiest in the water, but to be absolutely safe, you can run towards the entrance of the arena, the lightning to doesn't reach all the way.

Anyone wanna fight FRC Merciless Watchers? I'm just not gud enough to do it. Pass is 'mercury'

>>148775927
Also fight his second phase in the water. The lightning always comes from Kos so watch her body when he calls lightning. and just walk around it.

Orphans camera is all fucked up

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Daily reminder that the things you hunt are not beasts, they're people.

>>148776494
p-pretty please

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>>148777058

>>148777058
But we hunt people as well.
Seriously Djura was splitting hairs a bit.

>>148776494
Is it NG or NG +?

>>148777646
NG. I'm just really shit and those overhead attacks keep crushing me in a single hit.

I beat fucking Ludwig solo on my first try so I'm thinking this might just be a hard boss.

Also Chalice Dungeons don't scale with NG+ I think

>>148778027
Okay are you ringing?

Uncanny, lost, or normal parasite?

>>148778251
Uncanny.
The triangle blood gems are to die for.

>>148778175
I just went and beat them solo, actually, but if you wanna run through the Dungeon and help me fight them again, I'm game.

Anyone want to run through NG+ Old Yharnam?

>>148778546
Good work.
But nah. I'm in the mood for invading people. Good luck with the rest of it.

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>Tfw you happen to invade the same guy three times over and they send you a friends request.

Where's the first chalice dungeon shop?

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I forgot I had this saved

Asian Micolash forever

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>>148780890

>>148780689
Lower Pthumeru layer 4 behind a hidden wall near the Keeper, Hounds and spiders. You could look for a Pthumeru glyph online too, might be easier and quicker.

>>148781313
That's what I was afraid of. Fuck chalice Rom

>>148782475
8i29rqz3
It's a Pthumeru Root chalice glyph with a shop on layer 1.

God, chalice dungeons are so bad
Why do I keep doing them

>>148782801
Thanks but I don't have PS+

Mostly done already anyways.

>>148766304
Pussy shit desu. At least it's not Loran Darkbeast.

>>148784747
>Having trouble with Loran Darkbeast

Different anon, but I whomp on that nerd in FRC dungeons all the time, he's pussy shit too.

At least Loran Darkbeast's hitboxes make sense. Most of the trouble I have with Bloodletting Beast is when I get hit by the stank of his underarm when I'm pretty positivie I definitely rolled through that hit.

>helping randoms with Wet Nurse
>2/3 of them are dying to her duplicate phase

>>148751709
>broke as fuck edition

Why does beast/frenzy meter show up when spending insight? I thought having high/low insight just changes your resistance to frenzy, not actually afflicting you with it when fluctuating.

>>148788025
Your increased resistance to an effect is shown by the bar growing larger. That's what you're seeing.

>>148788318
Seems like its building though. As though a winter lantern was attacking me. Then it gradually lowers but doesn't quite hit frenzy.

Making a SKL build, currently level 75. I have 40 DEX and 40 VIT, should I dump the rest in VIT? I imagine putting more points in DEX won't help with scaling much.

>>148787778
Beg pardon?

Is there anywhere to find Striking Blood Gems? Do they exist in Triangular form? I found one on a Watcher after farming him 15 times, and then realized this would be amazing for the Stake Driver, but I need more, and I need them quick.

>>148788487
50 on damage stats are optimal for weapons so I'd go 50 Skill. 40 Vit is fine, I usually stop at 45.

>>148788487
The hardcap in Bloodborne is 50, not 40. You'd do well to put the ten more points into it, then put the rest in vit and any secondary stats you need for scaling.

If you're stopping at 98 like the /bbg/ meta, I'd suggest going to 45 vit, 50 skill and then put the other 8 in whatever bloodtinge you need to get the Reiter and the rest in strength for other weapons.

>>148788440
The bar grew, the part that's full is the difference between it and what it was before you got whatever upped your resistance.

>>148789027
Alright, makes sense. Thanks.

Is it inversely proportional? I know low insight is better for frenzy as resistance is higher but is beast mode enhanced or reduced by high insight?

>>148788983
>>148788924
That sounds reasonable, but I could go 50 SKL/VIT and still have three points left over for whatever I want. I've been using the Reiter this playthrough, I don't know how useful it's gun is but it seems to be a decent weapon.

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>>148788487

>>148789246
Beasthood is like the antithesis to kinhood, so low insight means a stronger beast.

>>148789536
Seems like low insight is better for one's health for a lot of reasons.

>>148789740
Yeah, but think of all the inhuman understanding and knowledge of the cosmos you could have

>>148789904
I keep it above 40. I know the Amys are visible after the blood moon anyway but I could swear that enemies behave differently and I know those black apparitions come out of nowhere now and then which is fun.

>>148790146
>black apparitions
que?

What's the ideal stat spread for Beast Claws? 50 STR and 25 SKL?

>>148790146
I forget what the number is, but after a bit of insight the church dudes with the pimp canes in Cathedral Ward get new attacks

>>148790396
The things that spawn during Witches of Hemwick fight.

>>148790586
Yeah I was thinking of them specifically. Seems like their lanterns are lined with eyes too.

Somebody said fighting mergo at 99 insight was difficult but i've yet to see evidence of that

>>148791234
Don't the changes activate at 40?

Will anyone help me kill Rom on ng? Password is bbg

>>148791571
Coming in a sec.

>>148791706
By the lantern

>>148791826
Aye, ringing.

>>148791571
Also joining, hate spiders want revenge etc

>>148791826
The ringing continues at Byrgenwerth lantern.

>>148791826
Thanks

>>148792057
Steak Dinners are fucking awesome

>>148792057
We already beat him

>>148792782
Aw, missed out.

is it possible to have co-op against Gherman?

>>148793256
Yes
Moon Prescence too

>>148793472
sweet. i'm level 43, pass is bbg if anyone is interested.

>tfw you maxed out the leg sliders for a thick butt and now your character looks like a deformed Gazelle

>>148793716
Omw

>>148793256
It is. The person you summon though has to have activated Gehrman's boss fight though. The fight will also carry onto MP if you've popped the 3 cords.

>>148793716
Goddamit!

It's ben a while.
Ds3 has made me rusty.

>>148794708
it's fine. i brought him down to a 1/16 of his health, but that AOE scythe slash one hits me and i don't know how to dodge it.

>>148794860
Connection Error!?

>>148795123
hold on, ill reset

Anyone want to help me in Yahar'gul

Password bbg

>>148795445
>>148793716

We're gonna need to get more creative with the passwords, gents.

>>148795123
thanks for helping man, i want to die to the moon presense though. i'm not ready for ng+

Sorry about that. Went right into it.
Again?

>>148795957
Of course.

>>148795654
there's literally no need to do anything different than bbg

You guys still fighting Gherman?

>>148795884
Aren't we all?

>>148795445
omw
first lamp?

>>148795957
Okay, when we reach that Laser Amygdala, you're gonna run down that path and stay on the left and ring the lamp down there.

I suck some serious dick....

>>148796673
Well it'd be stranger if you sucked funny dick

>>148796648
>>148796673

C-can i join?
I-Is it full...?

the scythe seems to have a lot of range. is it any good for pvp?

>>148786051
I get raped by Loran Darkbeast. Especially when I'm using something like the BoM.

>>148796827
I'm too late aren't I?

If the anon I was talking about Evo with is still here and doesn't already know, S2J got 5th. Called it. It's nice seeing a Falcon finally place that high. He get absolutely fucking destroyed by Hbox though, and I think for a long time Hbox will be the wall for Falcons at international tournaments.

Thank you eggman

>>148798846
Happy to help! It's fun testing out weapons on squishier enemies. My damage seemed a bit absurd, though, like I wasn't scaled down...

So, unrelated: Chalice Dungeons don't reset in NG+? I recall, last time I beat the game, I was no longer able to access FRC dungeons.

>>148798946
They do reset on NG+.

Tonitrus with minimum ARC investment is better with Blunt gems than Nourishing or Bolt, right?

The fucking hitbox on Ebritas's charge. Holy shit man.

>>148798397
Is Smash running on time today or do I have to wait another hour before SFV starts?

>>148801227
You're too close.

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leaked second dlc final boss

I know we've got some Lovecraft fans in these threads, but any ya'll lads ever read his influences or favourite authors?

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>>148751709
tumblr is weird

>>148752239
>107

literal trash

>>148763381
A cap slot would be a clipping nightmare. I'd settle for caped and capeless variants of existing attire, like the hunter garb

Reiterpallasch requires the most free aiming which is why it is the most fun and skillful weapon

>>148795654
Why? forgive me idk how password system works
>>148791362
i didn't know insight affected anything other than church dudes weapons/ amy spawn, frenzy resist and other non gameplay stuff

>>148799412
I started NG+ earlier this morning and all my chalice dungeons are here with progress saved

anyone want to help a lvl 43 hunter get past the area in the dlc? i'm ringing at the underground corpse pile lantern pass is bbg

>>148808843
If you want to twink, you should really do it yourself.

>>148805587
Been planning to read some Lovecraft quite soon, may as well read influences. What were they?

>>148808843
Give me a few minutes and I'll be there.

>>148808843
I'll join too

>>148809514
i'm going to cancel, got things to do

>>148809976
Alright. I'm open for a couple more hours so feel free to ask again.

Anyone wanna join me against Orphan of Kosm?
It's Ng+2, i'll be ringing near the fog gate

>>148811836
pass is bbg

>>148809490
For Lovecraft
>From Beyond
>The Picture in the House
>Dagon
>The Colour out of Space
>The Call of Cthulhu

Fantastic start, there. Those are my cream of the crop.

For influences/favourite authors
>Algernon Blackwood - The Willows, The Wendigo
>Ambrose Bierce - Mysterious Disappearances, Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
>Edgar Allan Poe - not a huge fan myself, but The Case of M. Valdemar
>E.F. Benson - Caterpillars, The Face
>M.R. James - Oh Whistle and I'll Come to You my lad, A Warning to the Curious

Those are all great authors (even though I'm not really a big Poe fan). Blackwood's stuff is long and very atmospheric, get into the mood, it's well worth it. Bierce is straightforward and journalistic (Mysterious Disappearances is comprised of three very very short accounts: The Difficulty in Crossing a Field, An Unfinished Race and Charles Ashmore's Trail). Benson was an English writer who wrote just really good, very lucid horror stories.

However, I cannot recommend M.R. James enough, he writes ghost stories, and they're some of the absolute best in the English language. His descriptions of horrors and ghosts are god-tier, the two stories I recommended are some of his best work from a small body of stories. Warning to the Curious is my favourite. Read Oh Whistle first, then try Canon Alberic's Scrapbook, a very short story, THEN Warning. They're not connected, but you'll get a feeling of why Warning stands out among his works.

Most if not all that list can be found for free online.

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>>148812537
j-jeez anon, I appreciate the effort and thought here, will be sure to get around to them.

>Mergo's Wet Nurse fight
Was this supposed to be so easy? I feel dissapointed

>>148813504
Well she's not the final boss 2/3 of the time, so sure.

>>148813317
No worries, anon, this is sort of my thing, and only a small fraction of what I could talk about! I'm glad I could prove you with some stuff to check out, these kinds of stories and authors need way more love.

>>148814975
But she was pathetically weak for your average Souls boss standards.
Her movements are slow and extremely easy to dodge, she doesn't have any cool gimmick or anything that makes the fight a real challenge, even that move where he covers the place with fog and summons clones of herself can be deal with by just dodging to the side constantly.

>>148815046
That they do. A shame about Lovecraft, that he could only get published in fucking pulp magazines of his time.

>>148815193
Eh, every game has a few tard bosses. Dark Souls had fucking Bed of Chaos, so I'll be thankful for the Nurse.

Besides, she's a corporeal manifestation of an infant Great One's power, she's not gonna be all that special.

>trying to user Hunter's Mark during the Ludwig fight to save my blood echoes
Never felt more frustrated in my whole life.

>>148815419
I personally enjoyed Wet Nurse because of the music, the arena(really just the moon hanging in the background), and the buildup throughout the entirety of Mensis.

But I'm a sucker for atmosphere, and would praise the fight if it was just whacking Mergo once and walking away.

>>148816067
That's why I feel so dissapointed.
The whole build-up and the general atmosphere of the place was so fucking great that finding out that the boss was easily the easiest boss in the game made me really mad.

>>148816067
Aye, she has probably the best presentation of any boss in the game. Mensis as a whole was great, and a welcome relief from the gothic everything up to that point.

I love Bloodborne, but I think its biggest failing was lack of varied environments.

>>148815419
>That they do. A shame about Lovecraft, that he could only get published in fucking pulp magazines of his time.

Oh, don't get me started! I think it was partly his opinion of his own work, he always felt like he was an amateur, partly it was easy (although rarely fruitful) income that allowed him to do what he loved and in a way, his calling, since it allowed him to help so many younger writers.

When he died, Weird Tales went nuts re-publishing, people were beginning to read him abroad, but then August Derleth happened and ruined everything forever and here we are nearly 100 years after the guy's death and Bloodborne's one of the rare modern pieces of media untouched by the hilariously shit opinions of Derleth.

>>148816717
Ooooh, story time; who's this August Derleth? One of those writers that took up Lovecraft's work and tarnished it?

>>148816516
Honestly it would have done for a change up of its color palette. The concept art of Hemwick Charnel Lane looks great, vibrant browns and dusty yellows mostly. But as per usual it's just full of faded, dark colors to try and make the atmosphere as bleak as possible.

>>148816897
He is considered Lovecraft's "sucessor".
Most people have mixed opinions about his works.

>>148816930
That would help. It doesn't help that the first half of the game or so is incredibly well-connected... to the point where Central Yharnam all the way through Cathedral Ward feels like a single, extended area.


>>148817063
What did he do wrong?

>>148816516
>lack of varied environments.

wot m8

Yharnam - Gothic architecture
Hemwick - rotting countryside and rustic windwills and buildings
Forbidden Woods - snakes and trees and colossal gravestones
Byrgenwerth - Victorian Neo-Classical
Nightmare Frontier - bizarre cracked stone, bleeding gravestones, ocean floor landscape, freakish sick sky
Lecture Hall - more neo-classical Victorian panelling
Cainhurst - ice-shrouded winter medieval castle
Mensis - mixture of medieval and nightmare stone

It's pretty varied.

>>148817183
Bruh, when I found that path that led from the Forbidden Woods to the first floor sickroom it blew my fucking mind.

>>148817345
Thematically yes, but visually most places feel the same after playing for hundreds of hours. I'm telling you, it's the colors

>>148816897
>>148817063
>>148817183
>What did he do wrong?

August Derleth was a contemporary writer with HPL. He wrote for the pulps, did some journalism, did some non-horror. But he's remembered as being HPL's 'successor' a wholly self-appointed title. Basically, he was the first fanboy. After HPL's death, he continued writing pastiches from fragments of HPL's ideas - and attached HPL's name to them. They were sometimes 'posthumous collaborations'. He attached his own Judeo-Christian beliefs and understanding on a bleakly atheist body of work and completely missed the entire damn point of Lovecraft's stories, mostly because he had such a chokehold on the work itself. Oh, and Derleth was a baaad fucking writer, you don't even know.

This is why I'll always, always say 'fuck Derleth' because people like to tout him as the only the reason anyone reads Lovecraft, when what actually happened is he approached publishers - during Depression, mind you - saying that he wanted to get an xbox huge volume of all of Lovecraft's stories, poems and bunch of essays done. Publishers had allegedly said maybe they'll publish a smaller set of volumes before committing to a huge project like that, but noooo, Derleth had to have it his way, so he decided he was the Chosen One (despite R.H. Barlow being HPL's literary executor, fuck laws), founded Arkham House publishing and started publishing. What's more, he had no legal right to do this and even threatened to sue people who wanted to publish HPL! And it all lead to an incredible misinterpretation of his stories that is still perpetuated today because of things Derleth did. Bloodborne is one of the very few modern pieces of media I honestly feel is untainted by Derleth's touch.

>>148817917
I honestly never read any "Lovecraftian" work not written by Lovecraft so I don't really know what this guy did.
Anyway, the reason why we don't have any true Lovecraftian pieces of media nowadays is because people are too retarded and can't get Lovecraft beyond the "monsters with lots of tentacles" thing. I blame "Call of Cthulhu"'s fame.

>>148818470
I think Eternal Darkness (game) and in the Mouth of Madness (movie) get it right.

>>148818470
I haven't read any Derleth myself, but I think he had something to do with the whole "lol tentacles" thing. I'm pretty sure most of his works were about Cthulhu, I'd imagine that's the whole reason the Mythos is named after it, even though Cthulhu is relatively irrelevant.

>>148818470
I've never read anything of Lovecraft's, it so happens, but isn't the gist of his stories that humans are tiny and insignificant ants on ground tread upon by beings so powerful they might be gods, but even those beings themselves are nothing in the bleak emptiness of the uncaring universe?

>>148818718
Yeah. To overly simplify his writings, their general themes typically regard our insignificance and a fear of the unknown.

>>148818718
You got it almost right, except for the last part.
Those being aren't inferior to the universe, mainly because one of them IS the universe.
The whole point of Lovecraft's works is (like you said) people comming to the realization that there is something bigger, older and way more powerful that them and it isn't just out there on the other side of the galaxy, but has been in their very own planet since billions of years before humanity even came to be.
There is no happy ending, there is no hero overcomign the odds and finding happines. We can't do anything against this beings and even if we try we are doing nothing but waste our time till the inevitable happens.

>>148819063
>>148818951

So Bloodborne deviates from it in this regard? A single Hunter CAN in fact fight back against these beings, and win?

Or does this mean that they're only killing a physical appendage of something that exists in dimensions beyond ours.

>>148819209
It's hard to say. Humans are so weak in Bloodborne that they call every giant cosmic being a Great One, but I'd imagine there's a large difference in "power", if that's a proper term for this, between Great Ones like Ebrietas and Oedon.

>>148819209
The thing about Bloodborne is that we don't know if the Hunter ever truly kills the Great Ones or if he just destorys their physical bodies for a while. Thought a mere human managing to do that much kind of goes against the kind of thing shown in Lovecraft's works (boat nigger aside).
Even so, in the end we don't know if the Hunter actually manages to do shit against the Great Ones and he certainly doesn't even interact with the truly logic-raping ones like Oedon.
Also, the Hunter's humanity is a matter of debate.

>>148819209
I wouldn't say Bloodborne is too much of a deviation. I think of it in relation to The Dunwich Horror, where the protagonists defeat the monster by using the same black magic that brought it about. Or The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath, where Randolph Carter defeats various servants of the gods, but only with the help of an army of Ghouls and Nightgaunts. The idea is that one can fight back, but only if they can somehow get onto the same level.

In Bloodborne, the Moon Presence runs the Hunter's Dream, and the Doll is some kind of kin or cosmic entity, so it can be assumed that your power derives from them, allowing you to fight the Great Ones. And by the time you fight the Moon Presence, you've consumed the umbilical cords and are on the way to becoming a Great One yourself.

>>148819763
Isn't the Good Hunter actually distantly related to the Pthumerians?

And the reason he is even IN Yharnam in the first place is because he's got some blood disease that can only be cured by Old Pthumerian blood?

>>148820179
Cured by paleblood, and I'm pretty sure paleblood is just the blood of kin and Great Ones

>>148820179
>>Isn't the Good Hunter actually distantly related to the Pthumerians?
I don't think that was ever implied.

>>148820179
We don't know anything about the Good Hunter, only that he is a foreigner and has disease that needs "paleblood" to be cured and which is never brought up again after the beginning of the game.
What I was talking about is that we don't know how "human" the Good Hunter is after he makes the pact and joins the Hunt.
Respawns aside, the Hunters seem to be capable of way more shit than your average human, and they also tend to turn into the most hideous monsters, even by Bloodborne's standards.

Worst weapons for carrying you through the game:
-Kos Parasite
-Beast Cutter
-Wheel
-Rifle Spear
-Stake Driver

>>148820605
The Good Hunter is a paleblood. That message was not for you, it was for the doctor. He was seeking a paleblood to transcend the hunt.

Honestly why is this game such trash when starting a new game?

>No Blood Echoes at all
>No Farming
>No variety in equipment gear, rune, etc

Literally the only thing to do when starting new is just Speedrun bosses till you unlock paths to pick up items from

>>148820896
Well, then he just needed regular Yharnam's special blood to cure his irrelevant illness.
My point stands that barely know anything about the Good Hunter.

>>148820629
Add Amy's Arm there. Its damage is split between arcane and blunt, and those are the two worst types of damage in the game. It's also just slow to kill bosses because of its mediocre DPS, even if it can stunlock enemies you can parry anyways.

>>148820605
Hunters start off pretty fucking powerful and skilled, and only get moreso.

>>148820031
I think what you're saying is right. The Moon Presence gives you a bit of its power in exchange for Blood Echoes, because it needs its Hunter chasing a carrot, and needs it to be effective in its duties. When you turn around and fight the Moon Presence, you're just using the power it granted against it.

>>148820605
>hunters tend to turn into the most hideous monsters
Nah dude, that's clerics. Ludwig was basically a cleric, right?

>>148821032
>No Farming
What, you want to fucking farm?

>>148818470
>Anyway, the reason why we don't have any true Lovecraftian pieces of media nowadays is because people are too retarded and can't get Lovecraft beyond the "monsters with lots of tentacles" thing. I blame "Call of Cthulhu"'s fame.

You're unfortunately on the money. But that RPG is part of a longer tradition of bastardization. It just made all that more accessible.

I mean, that really is the gist of it, people think Lovecrftian means slapping on some tentacles and calling it a day as a direct result of the misinterpretation spread by the works of Derlth and people who came after who simply didn't know any better.

>mfw I helped inspire civil discourse about Lovecraft on a videogame board on a chinaman's cave painting website

I just wish it wasn't 6:30am

>>148820896
I was about to ask how you knew the hunter was a paleblood, but if the doctor mysteriously disappeared and that note regarding paleblood was for him, then I guess that basically answered it. He used the player hunter to transcend the hunt. But then that begs the question, how did an outsider enter the dream and take part in the hunt? Isn't also weird how your character is just some random bloke, then all of a sudden after entering the hunter's dream everybody just starts calling him a hunter?

>>148821475
Ludwig was the Healing Church's first Hunter, he wasn't a cleric.
Laurence and Amelia were both vicars and both turned into horrible monsters yeah, but Ludwig is still the scariest abomination Bloodborne has to offer.

>>148821840
I don't know about normal people, but the Good Hunter enters the dream by making a pact with MP and turning into a hunter when the doctor does the blood transfer thing.
Of course, he doesn't find out that he did till later.

How many times did you kill the doll today, /bbg/?

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>>148823174

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>>148823174
Three times, testing out the Stake Driver's charged R2. Managed to get it up to a gnarly 2000 damage, which is pretty fucking hilarious I think.

c-can it go higher

>>148823387
It can always go higher

Anyone want to join me for the living failures?
Pass is DSP
I'm also bl47, so expect some wonky scaling.

>>148823387
Did you use an oil urn?

Why are they called living failures? They seems like pretty successful experiments.

>>148823794
Naw.

Fuck, you telling me that boosts the damage of a Steak Driver R2?

>>148823864
Because their role was to be a Celestial Emissary, to communicate with Great Ones, and they failed in that regard.

>>148823864
They are supposed to be Great Ones, not ayy lmaos.

>>148823981
Steak R2 has some amount of fire damage, if I'm not mistaken.

>>148823632
Sure, why not. Give me a minute and I'll be there.

>>148823981
Pretty sure it can since an oil urn boosts the dmg of the next attack involving fire/booms. Be worth testing out to be sure though.

>>148823981
>>148824026
Oh shit, that must mean the actual Celestial Emissary was a successful experiment

>>148824271
I don't believe so, but I'll test it out. If that somehow doubles the damage of the R2, I might have to start using it in a serious capacity.

Now, how about 99 ARC with a Fire Stake Driver on a parried enemy who's coated in oil urn and standing in an oil puddle? I gotta wonder what damage could be racked up.

>>148824340
Did they really need a Celestial Emissary? I thought the Church was just trying to make their own Great Ones.
Why would they need someone to communicate with Great Ones when they had a legit Great One in their basement?

>>148824463
Perhaps the Emissary was how they were talking to Ebrietas, as some Mobs were seen hanging around the elevator leading to the Altar. And they were also probably prepping for the future. We can figure that there are Great Ones out there way bigger than Ebrietas, things like Oedon, that humans aren't going to be able to even properly comprehend.

>>148824271
Thanks anon, ringing now.

>>148821074
Not regular Yharnam

Queen Yharnam's blood itself

>>148825401
I meant the same special blood from Yharnam everyone uses to heal shit (which is Queen Yharnam's), I just phrased it like shit.

>>148824756
OKAY

Sorry for the wait. Booting up my PS4 now.

>>148825793
Thank you my dude, doing double digits per hit was painful.

>>148826871
The DLC is not kind to low level builds, that's for sure.

Happy to help, though. If you need a hand in the future, I'd be willing.

>>148826940
>>148826871
...But not tonight though. It's later than I thought, I ought to get to bed.

>>148821840
After you get "found" as a hunter by the messengers you start smelling funny, which is how everyone knows what you are.

>>148827178
All good man, 'till next time.

>>148827386
I was actually more curious about the why you're a hunter when you don't enter as one, but I guess it's because of the contract.

It is HIGHLY ENCOURAGED to pick a side and use the vileblood or exocutioner rune while co opping it makes everything more interesting
And i can bully executioners

>>148828928
Since you're being serious, hunter rune is the most interesting. About a 30% chance to turn into a mad phantom when invading.

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>>148788487
>SKL build
>40 VIT

Where's the fun in that?

>>148830321
Probably because he doesn't want to die to a Chikage in three hits.

>>148830515
Can't he just dodge and use Old Hunter's Bone for that anime teleport?

>>148817917
But honestly, Lovecraft would've gone the way of Chambers and Clark Ashton Smith if Dereth wasn't there to publish his work. Have you read Joshi's biography?

>>148830614
Then don't get hit by the chitage. A VIT higher than 20 in a SKL build is a waste of points.

>>148830614
"just dodge" is a dumb argument because it doesn't take into account the latency that is rampant in Fromsoft games. Also he needs 15 ARC to use the hunter's bone.

>>148807208
>Of course, I do love you...
>Isn't that how you made me?
>you made me

You are the host of the hunter's dream.

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Friendly reminder that if you have less than 1400 health it is a theoretical possibility to get two-shot by the Chikage or Bloodletter.

>>148830982
She is talking about humans in general, not (You).
You only become the host of the dream in one of the endings.

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>>148831054
The last person who dissed my poorly thought out head canon got visceral'd right in the belly button. You want to be next, anon?

>>148830841
No it isn't. 15 ARC is a minor investment when you choose a class like Noble Scion. What you need for a SKL build is good END, Bloodtinge for parrying and of course SKL. Backing off and reading movesets and being able to dash in to punish your enemy is more important than having shitter levels of health.

>>148830982
I think she meant humans in general when she said "you."

>>148831050
Yeah, if you're stupid enough to be caught standing inside the chikage's limb dicked range.

>>148831263
>belly button
>not anus
What's the point then?

>>148831280
pvp isn't really that simple, anon.

>>148831349

Because this is a Christian image board and because you'd enjoy it otherwise.

>>148830828
Why is VIT wasted points on a SKL build and not a STR build?

>>148831695
Because you have less vital stats you need to worry about. Unless you want a wheel, you don't need Arcane. Who don't need a strong bloodtinge either.

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>10

/dsg/ here

isn't it hard playing with 10 fps? lmoa

>>148835673
A little but its not as bad as finding a darkmoon summon lmoa

>>148835983
>he doesn't use cheat engine

YOU GREAT BLEED'IN RAT

>>148836064
>He still plays Ds3

>>148835673
I like the claymotion aesthetic the quicksilver students give off.

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I have the worst birthday right now.

> got unimployed
> social securety takes to long working my case out
> lost flat last friday

I managed to get my mind off of it over the weekend thanks to bb and /bbg/. Today is my birthday and i am sitting here after i went to the city office without much improvement made.

At a body of water.

Oh kos!

>>148840765
I'll add another one to that list
>can't spell
Get better soon though bro

>>148840817
English isn't my first lingus... if it was, i would be even more fucked kek

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reminder

>>148840765
I didn't know you liked bb eggy.

>>148841931
Who?

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>>148841781
my proudest fetish

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>>148840765
could be worse anon, could be stuck animating nuserk

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>>148823174
None and I never have, you just don't do that

>>148823387
You just don't do that

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>>148844195
>die against Gehrman like a bitch when he had literally almost no health left
>in a moment of rage R2 the Doll
>white blood
>she dead
>panic and leave the Hunter's Dream and come back
>"Hello, Good Hunter. I am a Doll..." etc.

You can kill her as many times as you want and she'll still pretend not to notice. Because she loves you...

I'm literally shaking at this anon's thread

>>>/v/345431297

>>148828928
>It is HIGHLY ENCOURAGED to pick a side and use the vileblood or exocutioner rune
That means I can't use the milkweed rune though.

My weapon is now weaker, for some reason? Fuck, I was struggling already. I hate this game.

>>148846968
>Getting this easily triggered by bait

>>148848134
Yeah, I hated the game too, then I found out I could repair my weapon. it got better after that.

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>>148846968
>reading BB threads on /v/

Normal uncanny or lost bowblade?

If the bullet hits your opponent anytime during the blood-vial healing animation, they get parried right?

Which pistol has the highest missile speed?

>>148850851
they're all the same, the only difference between guns is the recovery time, range, and damage

>>148850297
Lost if you care about arrow damage, normal if you care about physical

>>148830321
Skl builds are so resource lite, why would you ever have less than 50 vit anyway?

>>148850297
Lost if you're a korean and plan to grind some of the hardest blood gems to get just for maybe 10% more damage than if you'd have gone physical, Normal otherwise

>>148854014
You go lost either way. The only time you would go normal is if you want to focus on the sword form instead of the bow form, which is just stupid.

>>148854184
It's not really focusing on the blade, it's focusing 4% less on the bow shots. In PvP you're much more dangerous when both forms do good damage and you can chain them unpredictably. Pew-pewing at a distance only works well in PvE, and with the S-scaling in SKL it's dumb to let 50% of the weapon's potential go to waste.

>>148854562
Kindly refer to >>148753372

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I'M SO FUCKING CLOSE TO PLATINUM BBG.

QUEEN YHARNAM BETTER HAVE A MINT ASS FUCKING PUSSY BECAUSE MY GOD, I'M GOING TO DESTROY THAT BITCH WHEN I FINALLY GET TO HER.

FUCK. THESE. CHALICES.

>>148854562
Nah, you are better off focusing on the bow for pew pew, and swapping to the chikage or BL for up close smack downs..

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I dicked around for a bit in the DLC and got a new weapon that I like, so I'm going to give Cainhurst castle another run, so if anyone wants to do some co-op and join me, I'll be ringing at the first lamp. If possible don't be too high of a level. Passoword is - Om

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>>148854834
>caring about trophies

No, hunter. You are the beasts.

>>148854834
The chalices really aren't hard though. Some of the bosses use to be, but they have been completely deconstructed by now.

Except the Pthumerian Descendant; FUCK that guy.

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I just realized that when you make a temporary account to get the free 14 day ps plus it doesn't just only affect that very account but all of them...
I wasted 7 days creating the ultimate underleved arcane build some how beating Orphan of Kos at level 35 solo and now it's all for naught.

This is honestly depressing.

>>148855909
On my way neighborino

>>148856245
They aren't difficult at all, it's just that it takes so fucking long to get the mats for each Chalice.

>>148856578
I can agree with that. I really wish materials were not a thing. I also wish the defiled chalice was the first chalice. All the chalices before that are basically just a waste of time.

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>people are still playing this

PS4 owners pretty desperate desu senpai

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>>148857339

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>>148857339
Here's your (You).

>>148856503
That was intense. He went a bit ham on me at the end and I kept dodging backwards which got me killed. Cool stuff though. Love the theme.

We nearly got him, ringing at Cainhurst lamp!

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Holy shit I can't believe I missed this ever since it came out

>TFW Spanish dub is actually pretty fucking good
>Finally grasped the lore and get every meme or joke /bbg/ spouts

This game and Demon's Souls are pretty memorable, any next games like these?

>inb4MemeSoul3

I know you guys don't like wars and everything but I really need to laugh today since I'm going through some annoying shit

Anyone have those compilation pics of retards getting upset at BB related stuff?

Eg: Project Beast Leaked confirmed for NEVER EVER, BB getting GOTY shitstorm, etc

Anyone up for NG+ Hemwick and Cainhurst? I thought I'd already done it on this character but apparently not.

Pass will be bbg, ringing at the Hemwick lantern.

AAH , YOU WERE AT MY SIDE ALL ALONG

Gonna' be progressing through some chalices now. Thanks a lot for doing Cainhurst with me. I got a new dex weapon - the Chikage and some new fashion. I'll update in a second for what chalice I'll be running.