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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
>>147616542
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Now that the general was saved, we can go back to our slumber in peace.
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Reminder that Recarmdra is strictly for characters and demons whose only redeeming qualities are the ability to take one for the team.
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Reminder that impregnating your demons is NOT okay.
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So, what is the story with Decarabia and Forneus being best buddies? I can't find any reference to that in books, other than them both being described as marquises from hell..
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>>148146525
>We'll never have MegaTen Kart
>No Demon Crossing
>MegaTen Party never ever
>A proper Shin Smash Megamis won't ever be real
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>>148147213
I think it's because they're both kinda the sole male sea creatures if you ignore babby Forneii
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What kind of problems do Ulala have with men?
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hoy
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>Beat Red Rider at the beginning of chapter

Much easier than I thought it would be
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SMT Go when
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>mfw psn won't accept my prepaid debit card to give them money for Raidou
How the fuck else do you expect me to play it?
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>>148153162
in a PS2
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>>148153162
Buy a PS2 you pleb.
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>>148153269
>>148153417
A copy off of Amazon costs twice as much, and using the wired controller is a pain in the ass. I guess I'll use the card to buy a psn card, then buy the game.
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>>148153806
>amazon
lel
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>>148153806
So what, are you poor or something?
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>>148154023
Costs the same locally too.
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>>148152570
Go to Tokyo and play SMT IV with the 3D feature on.
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>tfw never got a streetpass for SMT IV
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>>148155352
I got a few. They were all very low level though, they probably got to Tokyo and stopped playing because they got lost or something.
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>>148155460
>they got lost or something.
Yeah, or something.
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>>148158564
What do you mean?
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>>148155352
Don't you have to literally give away your demon to streetpass it and even remove it from your stock?

Fuck that, those demons are only for me and no one else can have them.
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>>148158650
I would imagine they stopped playing because they didn't enjoy the game.
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>>148158890
Or maybe they just started playing it. Some of them had it as their last played game.
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>>148149316
roastie
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>>148158985
Probably just 3 lines of text as it happens in all the other SMT endings.
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>>148158985
Is this massacre something from IVF?
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>>148159578
You brainwash them, their personality is most likely gone forever..

So I fear that they used that as an excuse to just have minimal unique dialogues changes, and the ending will play out the same way regardless of who you chose.
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Raidou is so fun.

>flying around, scouting out areas and fighting battles as Moh Shuvuu
>running around reading peoples minds
>fighting Yakuza naked in a bathouse
>Raidou doesn't take off his hat in the bath

This is MegaTen from a totally fresh perspective for me, it feels familiar to the MegaTen formula I know and love, while also feeling completely fresh and different, I can't believe I haven't played this sooner.
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>>148160583
I don't know too much about the endings, but it seems like you finally kill off YHVH and Lucifer for good, create a new universe where such a conflict doesn't exist and even BTFO The White's mission while we're at it. Which sounds fine by me.

The problem is that the lore and universe of SMT IV was already pretty complete and fleshed out to begin with. We already knew how it all came to be, it's current situation, we had a bunch of what if scenarios, and the different endings.
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>>148161226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DM2X9eV9U8
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>>148161226
I WANNA GO TO ISTANBUL
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>>148161849
Nah.

IV and its endings are still canon due to how the Amala Network works. It's just that the endings of 4A are also possible scenarios in that universe.
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>>148161226
>Raidou doesn't take off his hat in the bath
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>>148162218
Raidou has a stinky, smelly hat!
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ANOTHER
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>>148163861
WORLD
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DEMON
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>>148164039
>>148163982
FUCKED
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>>148164187
UP
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>>148161226
I really wanna get into Raidou because I like the concept and setting, but man the combat is bad in that game.
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>>148164398
THE
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>>148164629
ASS
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>introduce best girl
>she barely shows up in the game
This shouldn't be allowed.
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Reminder that Charles Barkley is a chaos demon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reUkatNvmtU
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>>148120812
No. You have to play until summer festival in P3 and 4.
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>>148164452
What about it is bad? I like having to aim and time certain spells because demons do some dodging. Not that far in so does it just get old or easy?
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>>148144864
It should say when you go to fuse or equip. I don't remember.
Or just use a fucking guide.
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>>148165895
Not him, but I'm enjoying it so far, it felt clunky at first but after getting used to it it's pretty fun. Only real problem I have so far is it's a little easy, I wish you could access hard mode from the start.

It also feels a little less clunky after discovering that guarding after 2 strikes, then continuing doesn't leave you with that long window of vulnerability after finishing a combo.

I hear 2 has better combat anyway.
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>>148147621
>>A proper Shin Smash Megamis won't ever be real

SMASH MEGAMI TENSEI fucking obviously, get it right.
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>>148154110
>>148154695
i bet hes eupoor
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I just got a used PS3 'Super Slim' because my backward compatible 80GB died (while under a retailer warranty). It's so tiny and quiet, and I can still play Megaten on it without being afraid it's going to catch on fire. How do you fiends play PS2 Megaten games? I know the PSN games are frowned upon, but it's so much comfier than playing on my PC.
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>>148167143
I play PS2 games on my PS2.
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>>148167421
Makes sense. I never cared for the PS2 library other than Megaten. I've never been able to justify keeping one around...Mainly because I obsessively hoard Famicom shit and share a tiny apt
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>Monochrome Forest
>See Walter
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>>148161526
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>>148167143
I hate the tray on it. But I've had it on for 12hrs at a time, and it usually takes 10 to start getting annoyed.

My laptop is trash, so if I did play PS2 games it'd be on my PS2. But I might get the PSN version in a flash sale or something.
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>>148167771
I feel moderately shitty but I use my relatives as storage.

I built myself an attractive, locked cabinet (you can't see anything in) in a room at my grandma's filled with weaboo shit, consoles and games I don't plan on playing for a long time, and a few preorder bonus items in a room she wasn't using in exchange for painting her house.

Love my grandma, and love that she lives an half an hour away.
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Does anybody have a backgroundless image of yellowhead?

All I can ever find are screenshots of him from SMT II with the black background
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>>148168256
As long as you help her if she asks again, I don't see a problem.
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Should I bother replaying SMT4 and going for neutral ending before Apocalypse comes out? Only got Law before, debating whether or not I would have time to go and do neutral without completely burning myself out on SMT by the time Apocalypse hits
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>>148169150
Not unless it's been a while since you last played or you absolutely have nothing better to do. I remember marathoning DDS2 and Persona 3 before playing Nocturne for the first time and I press-turned myself into an addict.

Taking breaks builds up anticipation... and hell, if you already how neutral ends, you don't have a huge reason to do so.
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>>148169471
>tfw still haven't finished SMT2 or EP
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The MegaTen wiki says the Apocalypse release date is September 20th in the US. Is that bullshit or is there any source to it?
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>>148169471
>tfw played Nocturne, DDS 1 & 2 and a grind run of DDS to fight Demi-fiend all one after the other

I almost didn't make it.

I want to fight Satan and the other optional bosses in DDS2 but I just can't bring myself to do it.
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>>148170006
AMAZON
PR ON TWITTER
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>>148169471
Well it's been a good while since I last played it, but if I recall the neutral path requires you to do a ton of sidequest stuff so maybe spending that much time just to see another ending is a bit much. Anywhere I can read a decent story synopsis of the neutral path to refresh my memory on what happens?
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Why is this theme so fucking good?
Fierce Battle is ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyTbDtQSgW4
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>>148170094
I don't like using walkthroughs or getting spoiled so I made the wonderful mistake of mastering a good portion of everyone's grid and the skills passed on from Seth and the Brothers in Arms and didn't know that NONE of that shit would carry over for the Satan fight in NG+.

I'm going to find an Gameshark disc that actually works and remove the
>Too overcome with fear and dread to enter
barrier to fight Satan on Normal.
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What team are you joining, /smtg/?
This game really eats up my comp's batteries
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>>148171398
None.
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>>148171398
Team red, i will change this rotten app
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>>148168256
Very jealous of that arrangement, anon. I did the same with my parents but they sold the house I grew up in recently so all that random shit is now in a storage unit and in my older brother's basement several states away. At the apartment I keep all my retro gaming confined to my desk (and under my desk in bins), and my 3 'modern' consoles are hooked up to the flat-screen. It's hard to keep the hoarding in check when I love that red and white box so damn much.
>>148168158
Glad to hear that, thanks man. I've had it on for like six hours re-downloading and installing all my digital shit. It's hot as hell but pretty quiet compared to the literally jet-engine that was the 80GB.
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>>148168374
No, but I do have this rare yod-hay.
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Better version of the image
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>>148175568
Screwed it up
Here it is
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>>148175748
Make one with SMT I's heroes.
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>>148166275
Where exactly? I noticed that the SP use changes from character to character.

Well, maybe I'm going to check some guides.
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So if I encounter a Fiend in SMT4, do I just save when I see them or do I have to repeat the 1/256 chance to find them again if I happen to lose?
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Does Final/Apocalypse have multiple routes/alignments/endings like IV or no?
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>>148165359
Would you fug Lucifer in disguise?
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Hoy.
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>>148178632
From my experience, saving removes it.

Dying and resurrecting from charon seems to work though.
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>>148171398
I actually picked valor because it sounded kinda chaos
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>>148179342
You wouldn't?
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>>148182295
Same really. And because Candela's got the biggest tits.
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>>148176848
Get me some backgroundless images of the SMT I guys and I will

It was just easier to find it for IV
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Is there any particular reason that nothing in Persona Q reflects or absorbs anything? I'm up to the third dungeon The spooky one. and I just noticed that's it's literally only been resist so far.
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>>148171398
I'd go red.
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>>148183567
It's a Etrian Odyssey game
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>>148183567
Ohh believe me you'll run into some. Of course I'll keep that secret since that'll ruin the purpose of the gameplay.
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>>148184989
An EO game with slightly changed Persona 3/4 combat, so it's normal to expect a similar weakness/strength system.

>>148185203
That's good to know, it's been way too easy up to this point.

Thank you for not spoiling it too.
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>>148179342
It's not gay if it's Lucifer.
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Hoy.
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>mfw P2EP contact system

Definitely the best improvement, P1 and P2IS was basically trial and error with 4 options per character.
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Strange Journey doom mod when
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SMT x Garo
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>>148175748
It should've been
>Blue - Walter
>Yellow - Jonathan
>Red - Isabeau
Cause then it would've matched their scarves
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>>148167143

I have a slim PS2 and I have it running through an XRGB Mini to an HD monitor. Absolute fucking bliss.

On a similar note, I've been selling a fuck ton of my older games online and I noticed relatively rare games have been skyrocketing in price. Oddly enough, Megaten games have dropped in price due to reprints (in the US anyway) or simply risen with inflation (PS1 Persona games come to mind, Jack Bros is still pretty high, Fixed version of PS! SMTII, etc, are the exception not the rule). I guess now's the time to buy the last of the fancy console hardware and pick up the physical games at a decent price while I still can.

>>148179342

Dude, I'd fuck a trap Lucy. No homo.

I lost my virginity barebacking a girl named Lucy and I write software for a living. I think I might actually be living out one of these Japanese animes.
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>>148193285
That's what was most irritating. But you can't give Walter any color that's not Valor for obvious reasons, so at that point you just have to go by alignment.
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>>148175748
Do one with Zelenin as blue, Space Marine as yellow and Jimmy as red.
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>>148174451
>so all that random shit is now in a storage unit

I'm in the same world, only my parents never had a home and I'm a piece of shit who still lives with them. And we don't have a house, just fucking kill me.

I had an almost launch PS3 (20GB but no backwards) which a friend gave me when he got a PS4. I could play maybe an hour if I was lucky before it started screaming. I could hear it at my doorway, and I guess it's like ~10ft away.
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>>148177184
I swear it's somewhere, but I haven't played in awhile... Maybe it's something P1 or P1P had.

This should suffice
http://tartarus.rpgclassics.com/persona2ep/Persona-Major.shtml
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Gotta ask.

Is the atmosphere depressing in SMTIVF when you talk to NPC's?

Like are some of them hopeless or want to die?

I enjoyed talking to them when i was locked into Law/Chaos at the end of the game.
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Why do people eat Mazzio's pizza? Maziodyne's is infinitely superior.
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>>148193605
who the fuck is jimmy
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>>148197186
Leave
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>>148197186
You know

Jim Mendez
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At the end of Day Six on Devil Survivor Overclocked, I know that there's apparently a "route" for each character. Do I have to do anything specific to unlock them and what is the best route for a first playthrough? Yuzu's is the easiest I heard but apparently shit story-wise.
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>>148197453
shut up puta
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>>148197564
You just have to have interacted with characters tied to quests enough. Yuzu's is always there by default but yeah it was originally the bad ending. They amended it in Overclocked to redeem yourself on the 8th day though.

On the night of the 6th day you'll be able to choose who to meet up with characters whose requirements you've met.
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>>148198178

>options are Gin, Naoya, Amane and Yuzu

Yuzu is the punk bitch option so fuck that, but angels/God (at risk of sounding like a fedora) sound like a bunch of stuck-up pricks. I'm kinda torn between Naoya and Gin. Gin is the realest nigga and I like the idea of going back to normal, but it seems like just delaying the final decision until another ordeal happens. Naoya's sounds like a power-hungry dickhead option that leaves the world in a worse-off place for everyone but demon tamers.

Damn, I didn't expect to actually care about this game's storyline that much.
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So this is... the power of modern SMT.. woah
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>>148198919
It's just joke armor. If you're gonna shit on the game or shitpost about flaws. Do it fucking right and make fun of the writing and shit roleplaying mechanics.
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>>148198721
I'd go with Gin if you want to save the better endings for later, Naoya if you want the challenge.

Naoya's route is the hardest because it has a second final boss after what is normally the final boss. Gin is one of the neutral routes that all end before Naoya's.

But after you beat the game you can choose to keep your compendium and one or two of your endgame demons, so repeat playthroughs get easier each time. Pretty much a breeze to blow through in just a few hours, though I did Naoya first so I don't know how easy his route is after doing others.
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>>148199092

>chose Naoya
>Yuzu and Midori leave my ass
>Naoya continues to be a prick

Is there some point where I can turn around and "GOTCHA" Naoya or is he going to be a know-it-all piece of shit who controls me this entire route?
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>>148199635
You'll learn what's up with him pretty soon. You get the rundown on everything about him in his route and Amane's, each with its own spin.
He's not a bad guy though, he genuinely cares about you, he's just a smug cunt.

Yuzu and Midori will come back so long as you don't kill anyone when given the choice to in dialogue.
Killing them gets you the Kaido version of the ending.
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>>148200186

I've been moralfagging this whole game because I'm actually a moralfag so that should be no issue. Thanks, anon.
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>"SMT inspired" game
>Wonder what SMT actually inspired in it
I feel like I'm retarded and just missed some aspect of the games every time I see this.
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>>148200697
where did you see that
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>>148200697
Am I crazy or does anyone else think Undertale had a bit of an SMT thing going on?

Namely Metatton's name and face markings
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>>148200750
Some new kickstarter thing.

>>148200828
Undertale did and Toby Fox straight up admitted it. One of the cases where I wasn't confused about it.
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>>148199635
He doesn't change.
If you do his 8th day you can choose to be a prick or not, too.

I liked Amane's route the most. DeSu has the best reasoned Law path in the series imo

>>148199092
>Naoya's route is the hardest because it has a second final boss after what is normally the final boss.

What? Did I miss something?
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>>148200931
undertale is basically a blend of SMT, Mother and Nier
>a shitty blend
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>>148200975
I misremembered. You have to re-fight all the Bels for Naoya's. And I think it's solo, if I remember right? Not sure though. It's been awhile since I've played.
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>>148201260
I didn't really care for it either, but the SMT inspiration is really clear.
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>>148201260
I enjoyed it, but it's definitely inferior to its inspirations. You'll find much more clever humor in Earthbound and much more interesting gameplay and story in SMT.

That said, Undertale's strength is having likeable characters which I think it does well. And Matpat giving the pope a copy of Undertale makes me want to kick his teeth in.
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>>148201959
Do you think the pope would like SMT?
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>>148202182
Maybe SMT II, or Devil Survivor, maybe IV. The only games with clearly or at least debatably good law endings.

Though in II he'd still have to fight YHVH.
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>>148201959
>And Matpat giving the pope a copy of Undertale makes me want to kick his teeth in.

i want my time back that i spent watching that

how did that fag blow up so much? he was all over every shitty ign e3 video
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>>148201959

Matpat? The game theory fag?

I bet the pope hasn't even touched the game kek
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>>148204381
By whoring out as much as possible. He used to not be so bad, doing basic if not somewhat flawed science/math videos about games to present theories.

Now it's just whatever bullshit he can make up about the latest fad game to pull in clicks.

>>148204827
He gave it as a "symbolic" gesture, AKA "look, I can make a viral video about giving the pope Undertale and make more money, I don't give a fuck if he even understands the gift."
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>>148207201
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Hoy.
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SMT Go when?
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>>148212967
I'm going to negotiate with Mara!
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>>148212967
That already happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXBDdVwHTrI
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>>148193469
Fuck yeah, anon. I want an XRGB, but I can't justify the cost while the PVM sitting next to me still functions... but it's not going to last forever.
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>>148193726
It's all good, man. Don't be so hard on yourself. I would probably be in a similar boat, but I simply couldn't move home after school cause no jobs in the middle of nowhere. I had to work a terrible retail job to afford to share a bedroom in a trash-house with 8 dudes, but I worked my way up to manager and eventually left and got into IT. Now I have my own place and I'm not like, loaded by any means, but I can afford to eat and buy Megaten games when I want to. It's a tough market out there but it's doable for anyone with a good work ethic.
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>>148213248
Looks like Invizimals 2.0 lmao
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How would you rank the SMT games from easiest to hardest?
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>>148215482
II < I < DDSI-II < IV < Final < Nocturne < SJ < TMS#FE
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>>148212967
If it ever happened we all know it'd never leave Japan.
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>>148207201
His FNAF stuff was interesting, but it was all wrong, and I stopped caring. If I wasn't a lazy shit, I probably wouldn't have bothered with his videos at all then but meh

SANS IS TOTES NESS RITE GUYZ
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>>148213248
I'm still irrationally mad this was shut down.
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Whoever decided this Spooky place was a good idea needs to not decide things ever again. It's actually pretty cool design wise, but screw everything in here especially all those annoying Mazionga and Magarula spamming enemies literally every five steps.

That first Lovely Doll almost gave me a heart attack and these god damn Cute Baby's are horrid puzzles.

I imagine it only gets worse from here, but I'm still strangely enjoying it.
Don't mind me I just wanted to complain to someone.
I don't have anyone else to complain to.
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>>148215219
I figured I was going to kill myself before or at 20, so I have never done anything with my life. Now I'm on like a dozen different meds, and as a result of them, the dole (as I couldn't afford all this shit). Both my parents got laid off, and I had to pay over half our rent this month which was basically all my money. It's pretty scary right now, honestly.
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>>148220747
That's fine, it's what we're here for.
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>>148220960
Thank you.

That being said I've got two more complaints in my system, why is it a hospital now dammit? I didn't want it to be a creepy hospital.

I just wanted cute fun for a little while, now Rei is terrified all the time and there's some sad backstory for Rei and Zen brewing in the background.

That about sums it up, I feel much better now.
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>>148220830
I'm really sorry to hear that man. Just know we're all rooting for you.
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>>148221615
Yeah, sorry, it's not a happy ending.
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>>148222881
Well, I just got accepted for a different program, but it won't kick in for another month or so. I'll still be a piece of shit at home, but I'll be able to put more toward household bills at least.
I was supposed to apply for it... Over 5 years ago. But I dunno... I just feel bad for what I'm already given. And I was hoping things might get better, I guess.

Anyway. No more whining, I should probably sleep.
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Why are bullets so useless in Raidou 2?
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>>148215482
SMT -> SMT2 -> Majin Tensei -> Raidou 1&2 -> DDSaga 1&2 -> Nocturne -> SMT If -> KMT1&2 -> -> Strange Journey
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Can you negotiate or chat with the bosses in SMTIV Final/Apocalypse just like in IV? I wanna chat with Inanna, Miroku, and Odin during mid-battle.
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SMT x Shiki
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SMT x K-ON!
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SMT x FE
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SMT x LoGH
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So, when is someone here going to learn to program and make an SMT version of pokemongo?
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SMT x Himouto! Umaru-chan
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>>148225603
>DDSaga 1&2 -> Nocturne

Really? Nocturne isn't that hard if you know what you're doing. I found DDS way more harder than Nocturne and SJ.
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Would a game where all the demon designs are done by artists from around the world to reflect the varied cultures that spawned them work?
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>>148228287
If they were somehow redrawn in the same style maybe, but that would never happen. There's already an issue with designs clashing against each other within Kaneko's works, and then with IV there was a huge backlash to guest designs that would've been fine had they not been for a SMT game. There's no way it could work out if they weren't all in the same basic art style.
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>tfw polaris' true form is absolutely slaughtering me
It's not normal for Alcor to get completely annihilated in a single round of combat during the final boss of his route, is it? I hope I'm just horribly underlevelled.
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This is you, isn't it, /smtg/?
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>>148231368
You have your own general now.
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>>148227946
The hard mode of DDS2 is probably the most fun I had with any megaten to date. I'd have to replay DDS1 to see how it is, but that's gonna take a while to happen.
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>>148220747
Don't worry, the enemies of that dungeon are probably the worse ones of the whole game, and it is what I'd consider to be the weakest part of the game since the enemies are damage sponges that can kill you in one turn if you roll bad RNG. For this part abuse of Hama and Mudo, and try to bring Naoto with you at all times.

Endure it and the story is actually gonna begin to get interesting; also the game is gonna get pretty good later on. Can't tell you when though :^)
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>>148220747
>puzzle involves using algebra to solve it
>doesn't tell in any way you need to use algebra
>if you take too long Naoto solves it for you and makes you feel like a dumbass

The second half of that dungeon is where the game starts to get really tedious in my opinion. And don't even get me started on the popups, especially that first one.

Still a great game though, I kinda wanna play it again but >tfw no 3ds
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So, since we all know the rules, why nobody is actually willing to make some sort of fan megaten game here? We can reuse the shit out of Kaneko assets and create some obscure multiplayer browser game for ourselves, you know? With demon duels, alignments and shiet. Or do you actually love cucking yourselves with hunger? Have you ever tried to actually make something?
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>>148236649
>Or do you actually love cucking yourselves with hunger? Have you ever tried to actually make something?
I made myself a sandwich this morning.
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>>148236841
SAVAGE
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>>148236841
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>>148236649
Get to it then, faggot.
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>>148236649
Ok here's the first asset
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SMT x Pokemon
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SMT x Drakengard when
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>>148240931
Taro's games are not that good
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Why would a smiling man be so strong?
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>>148241647
A confident man who smiles in the face of adversity is a force to be reckoned with - Sun Tzu
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>>148241647
>>148243390
the power of boicpucci
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>>148171398
Fucking lawfags are ganking our local gym to hell and back.
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Went full autismode and updated my progress chart with some extra flair. I think there was some talk of doing this a few months back, if someone has done/wants to do a better job please do.

So post your progress, casualry scum.
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>>148243813
Faggot. He is a smiling man.
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>>148246984
No one can win against the cock, anon.
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>>148248578
Ran X Sen was a shitty hentai anon.
Go back to >>>/a/
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>>148245689
Only completed DDS1, P2 IS, and Raidou 1. Playing DDS2, Raidou 2, and SJ currently; DDS2 should've been finished a long time ago but grinding levels for Satan and the other extra bosses is a bit of a drag and I'm lazy, and SJ I play on and off every couple month because I'm lazy and I tend not to play any other DS games when I'm playing AA, which I find odd.
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>Decide to replay Persona 3
>in the middle of that get an urge to replay Persona
>beat that and decide I want another dungeon crawler, so start Strange Journey
>kinda annoyed with Sector F, so wanna play DDS 2 for some more traditional JRPG action
>while all of this is happening I am replaying SMT on my cellphone

I pretty much only play Megaten at this point.

help me
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Do Megaten fans who prefer other games to Persona feel abandoned by Atlus? Or at least did before they announced Apocalypse? I mean, since the release of 3DS the only brand new games were SMT4 + 4A and P4 got more spin offs than that.
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>>148255435
Nigga, you can never have enough Megaten.
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Is the PSX version of Innocent Sin harder than the PSP version?

I'm playing the PSP version and even on "hard" mode most enemies just do 1 damage, this is so boring that I'm forcing myself to play it.
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Playing DeSu:O for the first time. Finished the Yuzu route for my first playthrough but Yuzu's 8th Day is really kicking my party's ass. Is the game supposed to be balanced for the 8th Days to only be done on a NG+ or do I just need to grind more?
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>>148258108
The 8th day is doable on any playthrough.
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>>148255527
All those Persona 4 cash-ins made me get into other megaten games.

I probably still have over 500 hours of games I need to catch up to which is nice. But more games that aren't P4 spinoffs (and inevitably P5 spinoffs) are welcome.
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>>148258108
Yes, you just got cocky and now you need to relearn how to git gud.
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>>148255435
I'm the same way really, I only ever seem to play MegaTen these days.
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TIME
>>
MEMORIES
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GO
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BY
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>>148256927
The story, art, and soundtrack made that game for me. PSP version is significantly easier apparently and I feel the dungeons were intended to be played in 1st person but they probably made it isometric to try and appeal to an audience beyond the hardcore dungeoncrawlers.
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>>148245689
Beaten MT 1
MT 2
SMT 1
SMT 2
SMT 3
SMT SJ
SMT IV
P1
P2 IS
P3
P4
DeSu
DeSu 2
Raidou 1
Last Bible
Devil Children: Black Book
and I'm in the middle of Eternal Punishment.
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LONE
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AIR
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COMES
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QUIETLY
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>>148231368

This is you isn't it /TMSG/ ?
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>>148270534
No that's me.
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>>148245689
I've only played

Persona 3: FES.
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax.
SMT: Nocturne.
Strange Journey.
Devil Survivor 1, and half of 2.
And I'm still working on Persona Q.

I guess this makes me casualry scum.
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>>148271405
>half of 2
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>>148272070
Devil Survivor 2 just wasn't as fun or interesting anon, I got bored somewhere around when they went to the top of that mountain to deactivate something.
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>>148227639
Anyone able has real jobs, I assume
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>>148214910

>>PVM

Well aren't you a lucky sumbitch. I was tempted to track one down but my classic games don't get enough play to justify the extra space required for one. Enjoy it.

So what MegaTen games haven't been translated in some capacity? Off the top of my head I can think of the phone games, If..., Debisama, Giten, and some Devil Children spinoffs. I know there's more than that but I'm trying to justify the foreign language learning.

Today was definitely pic related. Fuck CRM, fuck SQL Server Management Studio, fuck Team Foundation Server.
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>>148256927
Didn't you already ask this?
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>>148276124
Those FE games. I can't remember the name. They seem to be the most requested outside if/debisama/epp
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>>148144854
I had to max out my character just to be sure I could beat that bitch, good thing grinding in this game is crazy fast with the meteor dragoon and the enemy challenge subapp.

That neutral ending was DOGSHIT. Never taking that route in any smt ever again, chaos all the way.
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>>148216886
Is this backwards? You're telling me that IV is harder than those and TMS#FE is the hardest?
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>>148276308
>>148276124
Majin Tensei I and II? those look really cool. There is also Ronde, though I don't think anyone wants to play that. And there's SMT Nine.
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>>148277840
Right, I meant Majin
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>>148276908
As a Chaosfag, i didn't like SJ's Chaos ending.

I like Technology too much, i hate the idea of parting with it forever, even if i gain absolute freedom from it.

That is the only time i agree with the Neutral path.
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So, how are the translations of Persona 2: EP and Devil Summoner?
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>>148279348
You and plenty of others sure love bugging about that.
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>>148279446
Sorry, i can't resist myself. Gotta ask.
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>>148277840

Yeah, I knew I was missing some really obvious stuff. Worse because I was jamming out to the Majin Tensei II Arranged soundtrack a few weeks ago. Pretty solid work music.

I'm torn between an AV Famicom and a Sharp Twin Famicom. The first is compact but a little ugly. The second is cool but the Disk System is of little use to me. Both are great for modding. Weird that I'm thinking about it this much because I'd probably only play a handful of games on it. Same goes for a PC-98 laptop, PC Engine Duo, Sega CDX, Virtual Boy, etc. But all those weird Megami Tensei variants to play...
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>>148281248
I hope you own a Sega Saturn with a copy of Devil Summoner, Soul Hackers, AND Devil Summoner Special at the least!
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>>148281985

I've got the Special Akuma Zenshou Box, Soul Hackers, and guides, actually! Scored them well over a decade ago for less than forty bucks on eBay. Tried to play DebiSama with no real idea of what was going on and made it to the first boss. Had trouble negotiating, actually pissed away my sword to a pixie at one point. Good times. Still should have started reading Japanese text books already. Whatever, started Paradise Lost tonight.
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>>148282927
Scan that mothafuckin debisama book, unless it's the one that has been scanned already
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>>148283632
Next SMT should be anti-globalization desu
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>>148240375
Better pikaclone than Sonichu or whatever it's called.
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>>148285803
IV kind of was, wasn't it? It was heavily nationalistic at least.
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Took me forever to realize that the P2 edgelord was flicking a lighter. Since he does that animation in front of the bike I thought he was wiping it down with a rag. I spent about an hour just dusting off strangers because the actual game is so fucking dumb.

Oh well, guess I'll at least get to fulfill my fantasy of polishing Kaneko.
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>>148286726
>edgelord
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>>148279348
They're translating the PSX version of SH or you mean the first Devil Summoner game?
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>>148286726
>Took me forever to realize that the P2 edgelord was flicking a lighter.

did you even play is

or do you mean is
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Is it still straight even though she was a dude before?
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>>148290814
Who cares.
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>>148290814
>>148290870
That's what people ask themselves when they fap to Sienna Grace or Sarina Valentina.
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>>148290992
shit taste
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>>148294706
Best route, best girl.
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Would you guys say it's worth it to farm for Growth accessories for my benched units? I basically just use the Door, Junpei, Aigis, Naoto and Yukari all the time.

Also, do levels transfer over to NG+? Might just level everyone up once I actually start making progress.
Bloody ghosts.
I'm not exactly struggling anymore, but just incase I'm considering it.

>>148290814
It's still straight man, Lucifer is still in the strike zone too.
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SO MANY RUN FOR SAFETY
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there's doujins about Sedna.
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>>148298671
Sedna is cute.
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>>148300406
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>>148300448
fish vagina
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>>148300560
Chinese?
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>>148298671
Requesting Sedna doujin link please.
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>YHVH

>In Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse, his name is inaudible, instead an unsettling static-like sound is heard every time someone mentions his name.
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>>148302306
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>>148302306
>censoring shit
i thought atlus was better than this
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>>148290814
No dick, not gay.
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>>148304020
It's like that in the Japanese version too. I don't think it is meant for purposes of censorship, but to convey that YHVH is so powerful his name becomes distorted when spoken.
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>>148305964
you're not very bright.
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>>148306184
Are you insinuating that you were merely pretending to be retarded?
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>>148306257
I am not him, but it's pretty obvious that it's not a serious post.
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>>148306345
You can never know these days.
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>>148306401
No, I think it was pretty obvious.
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>>148300560
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Am I supposed to raise everyone equally on DDS 2 or can I just roll through the entire game with Serph, Argilla and Gale like I did in the first? It seems like kind of a hassle to keep everyone's Mantras up to date. In that case, how do you like do build your party?

Also, does Angel really have a dick?
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>>148308984
Get everyone mutual karma just in case, as soon as it opens up (very early) and teach Cielo a few healing skills because there's a dungeon later on that forces Gale and Cielo on you.

You are going to have some party switch shenanigans but nothing too bad with that party composition.

Yes
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>>148302306
I just spoke every pronunciation of YHVH I know and I can assure you it was not distorted

Thank Atlus
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>>148309215
why are you nerds so obssessed with her penis
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>>148309548
It's cute!
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What went wrong?
Hard mode: No demon co-op or soundtrack
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>>148309680
boys are so weird
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>>148309824
Too formulaic. Needed something to spice it up instead of Sector A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H with little else.
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>>148309824
It's more boring than SMT I and II, which is saying something.
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>>148309824
It wasn't in glorious nippon
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>>148310674
That was the best thing about it. Almost every game being in Tokyo was a mistake.
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I just got to Beldr in Desu OC and holy shit he's raping me

how do I win this fight. I feel underpowered. I haven't grinded at all since I heard the game punishes you for it. Should I?
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http://nesdev.com/6502guid.txt
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>>148311646
Don't you just use the MC to do the special attack with that one item I can't remember the name of? Unless they changed it in Overclock anyway.
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>>148311646
Have a Demon with the racial skill double up or whatever it's called. The one that allows you to attack twice. Then another that can heal. Proceed to slap his shit twice as fast. I believe the damage is based on what level you are rather than your Str.
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>>148313831
His subordinate demons are just fucking me over as I try to get close to him
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>>148302306
I've heard that only hardcore lawfags can pronounce or even type Y#%H. I wonder if it's true.
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>>148313996
Then switch up your strategy a little and try to keep the other demons away from Beldr while you attack him solely with the MC.

I'm pretty sure you only have to kill Beldr in that mission, so I'd give my companions that one skill that gives them more walking distance and send them to distract the other enemies and block the pathways until he's dead.
Find out what weaknesses the subordinates have and exploit them with your buddies.

Also the MC is literally the only one that can hurt him, so having strong demons with him doesn't necessarily help you. Get some healing ones or defensive ones to go with the MC.

I only know about the regular DS version so these tips might not help, but from what I remember your main goal is surviving rather than killing everything.
This might be typed out confusingly, I'm sorry about that.
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SMT GO WHEN AAAAAAAAAH
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>>148316812
>wanting casual scum
No thanks.
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>>148317384
I just want to meet a qt SMT gf to talk about demons and shit senpai
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>>148317914
>not summoning your gf
pleb
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>>148317914
Too bad you're going to kill her and feast upon her corpse.

Welcome to a world drowned in anarchy, buddy.
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>>148318015
>Too bad you're going to kill her and feast upon her corpse.
Thats fine.
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Hoy.
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goodnight
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GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>148324150
M-MASAKA NOTORIYUSO B.I.G?!
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>>148324526
Look out, it's an F.O.E?
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I finished playing MGS3 recently (after playing the two previous games) and now I'm burned out. I have no motivation to finish the games I have started. I'll try to finish DDS1 as soon as I get a TV but I feel like I'll ruin it for me, I don't know how to explain so sorry if it's a bit vague. I already started a long time ago and I stopped soon after Gale became playable.
Can I talk about my progress as I continue the game? I think I'm not motivated because I'm a bit lonely and I barely know anyone outside of /smtg/ who cares about megaten. Maybe it'll motivate me a bit more.
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>>148240375
>using pikachu's dead corpse to hide itself
Well shit. That bear looks fucking creepy, too.
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>>148326472
>using pikachu's dead corpse to hide itself
Pokemon's not that edgy. It's just old merch.
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>>148326510
Well that's fucking retarded. Shoulda used a corpse instead.
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>>148326510
The bear looks a bit more like a red panda, doesn't it? Those look super cute irl.
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>>148326576
It just wants friends. It's a cutie. Pokemon doesn't need to be edgy.
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>>148309824
>>148309928
>>148310135
Wait, Strange Journey is bad? What happened to /smtg/?
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>>148327152
Ah yes, the you acknowledge a game's flaws so you must think it's bad meme.
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>>148326510
>Pokemon's not that edgy
you should read some pokedex entries.

Cubone is literally that.
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>>148327152
They're not wrong.
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>>148327257
Calling a game more boring than SMTI and II is saying that it's pretty horrible.
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>>148327340
SMT I is not boring. II has all that backtracking and fetch quests but it's also not that boring.
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>>148327427
They are, hence why the post said ''which is saying something''.
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>>148302306
>>148304020
The entire concept behind the name is that God's true name is not pronounceable. Y-H-V-H is just a corruption with a long, complicated history. 'Jehova' and 'Yehova' are forced Christian pronunciations of the Tetragrammaton. ATLUS isn't censoring anything, they're actually conveying it in a pretty rad way. At least learn about the Tetragrammaton if you're going to complain about it's literally impossible, unknown pronunciation.
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Hoy.
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>>148302306
That's pretty cool
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>>148309824
No number

That's literally the only problem with SJ
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>>148333686
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SMT x Pokemon Go
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SMT x Devil May Cry
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>>148342297

You mean DMC5 featuring Demi-Fiend from Shin Megami Tensei series.
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>>148342558
You mean featuring Jack Frost from Persona
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>>148344560
You mean featuring Teach Frost Narukami from the Shin Sekaiju no Megami Persona no Meikyuu Tensei: Devil Survivor OVERCLOCKED Portable
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Is it me or is DDS really easy? I only got one game over so far and I'm in Manipura for the second time. I checked a walkthrough to see if I didn't miss anything and it keeps saying to do things I didn't do or the game is almost impossible (like having agi after Heat leave the party).
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>>148348093
just wait for the penis boss
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>>148349562
Mara is a regular boss or a bonus boss in this game?
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>>148327340
The other two posts he quoted don't imply that SJ is a bad game at all.
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>>148337306
>SMT x Katamari
Yes.
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>>148342297
>tfw a character from one of your favorite series gets a cameo on your other favorite series and it's good
>tfw one of these series was killed and raped by businessmen

SmT: Fuck You edition when?
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Which demon is the cutest?
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>>148353361
Demi-fiend.
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>>148352923
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>>148353415
Just imagine if it actually did turn out to be the DmC of SMT. IVA is at least mechanically sound barring the partner system.
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>>148350370
>Katamara Damacy
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>>148355636
>Me & My Katamara
>Beautiful Katamara
>Touch My Katamara
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it's too hot for SMT
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>>148358332
>It's 101 degrees right now
>Not even the hottest part of the day
JUST
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>>148358332
>Sun is always shining on my room
>can't even chill at night because the room is always hot
>humidity
I want to kill myself. Talk me out of it.
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>>148358732
Join the rest of us who already did.
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>>148358732
Leave your house and like, pick up chicks playing Pokemon GO
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>>148359407
But it's even hotter outside!
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I'm just about to finish a Law playthrough of SMTIV and don't feel like slogging through the whole game again just for the Neutral ending? Will I miss anything going into Apocalypse?

And what are the routes in Apocalypse, anyway?
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>>148360623
4A's routes are Good, Evil, Law, and Chaos.
You're not missing anything.
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>top o' the mornin', godslayer
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>>148365786
aye
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https://youtu.be/rADlx1mrgIg?t=52m
SMT: GO CONFIRMED
starts a 52:00
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So this is how my SMT1 looks on my emulator. I'm using Orden's Patch from the pastebin in the OP. Is this typical or can I fix this?
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>>148329052
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton
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>>148374995
I actually just noticed the post already mentioned the Tetragrammaton after posting, my bad.

I can't believe I want to read the Torah for Megaten
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>there are people who think nocturne is not the best SMT

Nocturne has actual artistic merit, it's one if not the best game ever. The perfect combination of gameplay + story, it's up there with Dark Souls and the Legend of Zelda for me.
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>>148374562
with that aspect ratio I suggest you kill yourself
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>>148376141
Had to resize it nigga, chill the fuck out. That's not the actual aspect ratio. I'm asking about the text. I'm not used to using a weapon that includes gender symbols in its name.
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>>148376437
The gender symbols refer to whether the weapons can be used by males or females, smartass
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So I just finished DDS2 today and I have a couple of questions for you /smtg/.

Did Real Argilla love Real Serph or is there something else? She acted pretty yandere-ish but it also sounded like it was Real Serph who coaxed her.
What exactly was Real Cielo's role? Did he even show up?
What was the whole point of fusing Sera and Serph?

And on that matter, was I the only one who felt that the Sun was such a boring dungeon full of one floor gimmicks? And why was everything from there on so rushed? The way Maganada appeared and died so unceremoniously, the last boss just popping out and go "fight me" and the ending were really meh.
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>>148375978
>Dark Souls and the Legend of Zelda
[SMIRK]
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>>148326393
No one is holding you down.

As long as it is on-topic and isn't a shitpost, then you can post away whatever you want.
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>>148373216
the fuck im hearing
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>>148377989
Literally too deep for you.
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>>148379606
The ending just felt kinda meh since it had 2 games of build up. I honestly expected more ass kicking and problems actually being solved than a love and peace propaganda.
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>>148379874
well DDS was supposed to be like... four games?
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Are SMT1&2 worth playing these days for anything beyond historical value?
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>>148360623
Nah, Apocalypse diverges from SMTIV at the route split, but it reintroduces everything since it has a different viewpoint.
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>>148380005
So basically DDS2 was rushed as fuck then? A shame since DDS1 was near perfect.

>>148380129
Yes. The music, atmosphere and story are pretty good. They're pretty fun anyway if you like dungeon crawlers.
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>>148380129
>are those games that are really good and everyone in this general loves worth playing
of course not, stay away from them
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>>148358732
Buy a dehumidifier.

That way you'll also get free water.
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>>148375978
It may be the best SMT, but it is not even in the top 20 of megaten games.
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>>148375127
No problem, famicom.
I'm 4/5ths through the Torah right now, but I'm actually converting. inb4 'good goy' Some of it is hard to read [giant lists of names and numbers], but some of it is totally rad and highly relevant to Megaten. I recommend the JPS 1917 version, it's available for free as a PDF straight from the original publisher. Reads similarly to the Christian King James Version. If you're interested in Mastema, he can be found in the 'Book of Jubilees' which is basically Jewish Apocrypha ['non-canon' books], also available as a free PDF. Basically anything you could want to read pertaining to Abrahamic lore is free online.
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>>148382047
Gimme a job after you convert to the money religion, shabbos goy
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>>148377879
I know that. It's just that in Kyuuyaku the text was properly sized so that the entire items name could be seen clearly. I'm wondering if there's a way to fix the text so that nothing gets overlapped like it is in the pic I posted.
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>>148382671
haha I'm just trying to make a lateral move in low-level IT support right now hombre. We'll see if my fates turn around.
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I will change this rotten general.
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>>148384110
No
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>>148384110
Change this
>Summons mara
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>>148382047
>not becoming a gnostic
plz
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ONE
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>>148389025
Two!
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>>148358732
Drink ice cold water or sweet tea.
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>>148391523
>Drink ice cold water
That's the only thing I drink.
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>>148391628
>waterfags
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>>148391716
Is that you Arioch?
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>>148391716
Literally me.
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>>148391716
Man, you'd think Mickey would summon a demon and grind for Macca or something. Damn nigga.
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I started playing DeSu2, it's like whoever wrote DeSu1 started the script and then left for a sandwich and a madman came in and filled in the rest with his Evangelion fanfic and threw in a prettyboy teenage CIA commander edgelord for good measure
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>>148391716
That cartoon is so good, thanks for reminding me that it exists.
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>>148391716
>suffering with hunger when there is food all around you
Just eat Goofy or something, it's not like anyone is gonna miss him anyway
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>>148395329
>eating goofy
>not donald
donald a fucking asshole and probably taste better anyway
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>>148395738
Duck is fucking delicious so he definitely would.
>Dat crispy skin
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>>148395329
is heat a nice guy?
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>>148395965
4u
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>>148395965
He is a mean prince.

Do NOT trust him.
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>>148397179
you're the mean prince
heat is the most trust worthy person
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>mfw IV and SH are the only SMT available in english that I didn't finished yet

Guess it's time to buy a 3DS.
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>>148401932
Took you long enough.
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Hey /SMTG/, anyone got links to SMT Imagine?
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>>148404724
It's dead, Jim. It's dead...
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>>148327263
Seriously, Pokemon is fucked up.
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>>148329052
I wasn't crying censorship, I just hadn't seen anyone mention how they handled YHVH
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>>148374562
It's just how the shops are.
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>>148383152
>I'm wondering if there's a way to fix the text so that nothing gets overlapped like it is in the pic I posted.

Fix Gideon's code.
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>>148395329
Goofy has an estranged wife and child you bastard.
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>>148408047
Are there even SMT4 babies?

Hating and shitting on SMT IV is so popular among the cool kids, that people who haven't played it probably think that the game is worse than Superman 64 and Sonic 06 combined.
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>>148408662
>Are there even SMT4 babies?
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>>148408662
wait, people shit on SMTIV?
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>>148408662
Not really. I'd say IV is not overrated or underrated, it gets plenty of love/hate.
I hate it, the gameplay is a fucking mess.
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>>148408662
I loved IV and it was my first SMT, does that count even if I acknowledge the game is flawed? It doesn't seem like the game gets that much hate honestly.

>>148408898
I don't see any praise there.
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>>148408898
Sometimes I wonder if I did the right thing making that image.
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>>148409358
Why? To this day it's guaranteed replies.
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>>148409358
Yes. You did everyone a service, anon.
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>>148409485
Because people use it to shitpost like the image isn't supposed to be sardonic
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>>148409834
I don't really see it used as if it wasn't to be honest.
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>>148409834
I think it gets a good use most of the time.

It's a way to call out the casuals, and an ironic reminder that most people are terrible at any remotely challenging RPG that doesn't hold hand all the way through.
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>>148410630
And also that reviewers are not to be taken seriously. Especially with long games since they will barely take the time to scratch the surface of the game.
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>Battle starts
>Enemy has first move
>Before enemy uses skill, game freezes for 5 seconds
>Paravati uses Cold Wave

That scared me. At least I didn't lose my progress.
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>>148412585
>Bufu always freezes the damn game
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>>148412585
Is it Digital Devil Saga on PSN?
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How do I find the bugs for the Agathion's quest in Raidou 2? Do I have to go into the Dark Realm at a full moon?
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>>148413874
Yeah.
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>>148413874
No, it's DDS2 emulated. It's never happened before.

>>148412840
Spooked me so much I switched to Raidou 2
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FINAL bump
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>Play a new Megaten game
>it's not nearly as good as Nocturne
Every fucking time.
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Is the PSX SMT II translated? Is it better than the SNES version anyways?
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>>148419608
No, probably.
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>>148419608
>Is the PSX SMT II translated?
No
>Is it better than the SNES version anyways?
Yes, except arguably for the music
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Hoy.
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What's the appeal of Digital Devil Saga? Story, characters, atmosphere, gameplay?
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>>148408662
Personally, I loved IV. It has its flaws but the gameplay is honestly the most fun I had with mainline SMTs.
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>>148424203
I'd say the atmosphere and story in DDS1. DDS2 is just there for more Press Turn goodness. Characters are really likable through both games.
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Hoy.
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>>148428084
Hoy
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Hee ho!
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> my only SMT related pic
I started with Persona 3. It was cool. Then I did Persona 1. Liked the atmosphere. Then I did Persona 2 innocent sin. The plot twist was great, and graphics compared to first game were great. I just started Eternal Punishment. Is it going to be good or should I just drop it and do something else productive?
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>>148434518
>do something else productive

this
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>>148413898
Have a demon with Finders Keepers and walk around until you find it. The best place to find them are at the Nameless Shrines. I'm pretty sure Pixie has that skill. Also you can earn a Stag beetle from one of the Case Files, I think it's called "A Haunted House" or something like that. Choose the large reward to get the stag beetle but you can also find one with finders keepers if you're lucky.
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>>148434518
You are already a bro for going through the older Persona games.

EP is too similar to IS, so I suggest you to try something new altogether, either a different genre or something like Digital Devil Saga or Nocturne.
EP does a timeskip anyways, so it's fine to let it in your backlog for now.
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>>148378432
Sometimes I feel like I post too much, although it has been a while since I've been on /smtg/. I just reached coordinate 1xx (I don't remember). When will Cielo become playable?
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>>148432021
kek

I guess UK is officially chaos now.
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>>148441609
I don't remember locations as well as I remember events. Cielo will become playable when he does something relevant to the story. It won't take too long though, you spend most of the game with a full party.

And don't mind that much about posting frequently. Only you know which posts are yours, and it's not like you have to worry about making the general reach bump limit, because that's what it is for.
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>>148311646

Have a Kishin with Double Up and a healer with your MC, tanks with your other party members to block off routes to MC/Beldr.
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Mara on the newspaper!
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>>148445492
W-what?

What do those tribal etchings say?
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>>148445654
Something about a good harvest.
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>>148445654
>Atlus Mara how plushie only
This is what I can fish out of that with my current basic knowledge of chicken scratches.
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>never cared about switching my persona when leveling up in P2 to get level up bonus
>now my Ginko has 42 Ag at lv 37 and Maya has 38 Ag at lv 38

I think I just fucked up.
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>>148446110
IS or EP? If it's IS, it really doesn't matter at all.
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>>148446606
He said Ginko dumbass
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>>148447116
For some reason my brain read Yukino instead, you fucking dumbass.
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>>148447283
Yukino isn't playable in EP either.

Man, go get some sleep.
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>>148447283
She's not playable in EP either.
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>>148447482
>>148447573
Well, fuck. I'm out.
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>>148447116
>tfw Madame Ginko is not playable in any Devil Summoner
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>finally beat SMTIV, go Law
>loose all will to replay it for Chaos and Neutral
>watch the other endings on youtube

I'm sorry, /smtg/. I've failed you.
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>>148448432
I know that feel, curiosity is 2 stronk. But I'm finally making up for it.

Besides, RPGs tend to be long games, so you will only get burned out if you go to replay the same game right away.
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>>148448432
>be Yuropoor
>import IV from the US
>finish it
>watch all endings on Youtube
>replay it twice afterwards anyway
>replay it again when EUR eshop had it on sale last Christmas
I regret nothing.
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>>148434518
Eternal Punishment is fucking amazing. I don't want to overhype it for you, but I was really impressed with the game, especially after going through IS, which I thought was kind of boring. It is the hardest game in the series (except for a few bosses on P3 FES hard mode, like that stupid table). Atmosphere and story is really dark and mature compared to the rest of the series; you have this group of bitter and depressed adults investigating serial killings and going up against the chinese mafia, shit is great. Baofu is probably the best character in the series too. Gameplay is a huge improvement on IS, with things actually being able to kill your party really easily (particulary bosses) and you having to plan your strategy beforehand. For instance, being able to cast group buffs (Maha-samakaja, etc) is pretty much a necessity for the later bosses, and you actually have to work to get the personas required to cast them.
I played P1>IS>EP too like you did as well and had fun, but I think it would be ok to give it a break like the other anon said if you got tired of IS and create a bit of anticipation for the game.

>>148446110
IS is piss easy anyway, so you're fine. You can make up for it by making everyone OP as fuck in the next game. Just make sure that you give Eikichi a persona that gives AGI, because he has terrible growths on that stat and is gonna slow the rest of the party down if you don't do something about it.
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>>148449241

I'm really scared Apocalypse isn't gonna be as good. Did it review well in Japan? How's the story?
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>>148450524
Honestly, I don't know much but from what I know it seems like they actually tried to balance out the difficulty a bit and fucked up the story. They also added Moon Phases and altered some gameplay elements. Story sounds shit to be honest IV's story was a rushed mess anyway, but I found the core plot points incredibly interesting though but as long as the gameplay is as fun as IV, I'm game.
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>>148450106
Yeah, my Eikichi has 24 Ag right now, pretty low compared to the other party members.

I'm in the middle of Caracol right now, I think I will go back to the Velvet Room, get a Marduk and give him an Agility Source.
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hi I have a couple of questions for you /smtg/

I picked up SMTIV some time ago because I heard a lot of other people say that they enjoyed it a whole lot and was originally kind of taken aback by "oh, so I just hang out in this dungeon all the time forever? ok." and then eventually moved on from that and saw other places and was like "oh ok cool".

I guess my question here is "what do you think is super cool and awesome about this series", and also do all of the games involve just fighting demons in the same dungeon each time?

also I'm stuck at the Minotaur and I feel like it's literally impossible for me to get past that so, any tips there
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I just got 2000 macca easy from gambling/arena in Megaten 2. Could probably max out easily, doesn't that shit kinda break the game? Is this a Kyuuyaku addition or did they make it easier in that version or something?
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>>148450972
This.

Also the new songs and demons are pretty good.
"Summer" 2016 can't come any sooner.
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>>148450972

SMTIV was an absolute blast (it's my first Megaten, I haven't even played Persona) but the arbitrary nature of getting Neutral and the complete fuckups of Jonathon and especially Walter's characters hurts. All of the endings (even Neutral) felt super weak to me except for White.

>>148451229

Lower your difficulty, fuse your demons, spam Ice magic. EZ
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>>148451610
At least you know it's "Summer". We don't even have a release date. Being an European and a Megatenfag fucks up my life.

>>148451672
IV was my 6th or 7th Megaten and I still it's a fucking blast I think the only other times I had such fun with a MegaTen game was with Nocturne or DeSu. It's a real shame how they fucked up the alignment system and Walter/Jonathan's role as alignment representatives. i honestly think that had they fleshed out the story and characters more and tweaked the partner/Smirk system and added a VIT stat, it could easily be the best SMT IV. It's still an excellent game with a 10/10 OST and atmosphere though.
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>>148451229
the game doesn't start until you get past the boss after Minotaur, so I'd say try to avoid this topic and any other SMT talk until then if you're going in blind.

As for Minotaur tips, it's been a while since I fought him but keep a team resistant to his elemental spells and exploit his weaknesses. Press Turn system is all about weaknesses
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>>148451229
All your questions will be answered once you get past Minotaur and the next boss after him.

I like the SMT and megaten series in general because of the gameplay, designs, soundtracks and for the simple yet interesting take on being an average dude with average strength who is able to summon and interact with mythological creatures and religious figures from real life, all of that taking place in a modern setting where you fight with the help of technology and arcane magic.

The series also got me into RPGs; before playing them I used to regard the genre on a very low esteem, but now there are times where I only play these kind of games.
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>>148452769
>Walter goes from "it sucks that things are unfair sometimes" to "THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG MIGHT MAKES RIGHT MORALITY OS A FLAW" over the course of a single conversation
>Jonathon barely has a personality beyond being a nice guy, then fuses with the angels and instantly decides to kill everyone in Tokyo, himself, and you
>Neutral route doesn't actually change anything, just makes God and Lucifer fuck off for a little while through the power of friendship

All of the endings fall apart pretty badly, but the whole game was still great.
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Does anyone know if STR actually does anything in Final/Apocalypse or is it still shit?
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>>148454064
They "fixed" ST. ST only affects normal attacks and physical skills while DX only affects Gun attacks and Gun skills.
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>>148454320
That actually sounds kind of annoying for a physical build, cause you'd need to go both St and Dx if you wanted both phys and gun skills, which you kinda want for coverage.

They better remove dex and bring back vitality for the next game.
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>>148454856
Yeah, you basically have to specialize in either Gun or Phy skills, though ST still affects Gun damage and DX affects Physical damage.
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>>148454856
Nah, I wish that the next SMT becomes more like Soul Hackers, where you have all these different stats like vit, dex, ag, etc. And they give you up to 5 points to dump into them.

Or a new classic Devil Summoner, but that is very unlikely.
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>>148455121
>divide MA into IN and MA
>good
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>>148442259
Ok, I think Cielo will join the part soon then, he got a cutscene right when I started this dungeon.
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>>148455406
>IN
>affects demon negotiation, greatly increases max amount of MP

>MA
>increases magic damage and resistance to it, gives a small boost to max MP

It's a fun and interesting idea if they balance the game for it which sadly SH isn't. If it happened in an SMT where the MC is allowed to become a mage, then it would be all the better.
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>just want to look at some cutscenes from nocturne
>try to look for videos on youtube but it's all shitty let's play videos with people talking all the time
FOR THE LOVE OF YHVH SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>148455802
I guess I could see it work that way. Still, splitting IN and MA still feels kinda redundant unless they affect differently elements. IN increasing more Almighty damage and MA increasing more Agi/Bufu/etc damage, for instance.

>>148456389
I feel ya. It honestly is a fucking ordeal to even find one single Youtube video without some retard pretending to be funny or sarcastic. I just fucking want to see gameplay and hear the music you fucking shit heads.
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>that fucking horde challenge on the 7th floor of the training hall in Raidou 1

Seriously fuck this stone ailment bullshit, first time I've died the whole game.
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>>148451229
I can't really speak for SMT4 because I haven't played it (third world country, a 3ds costs an arm and a leg), but what I like the most about the series is the occult themes. I have always had a huge interest in things like magic and mythology (actually seriously considering trying to do a master's degree researching about this sort of stuff), so this is pretty much the perfect series for me with the huge attention of detail they put into representing this sort of thing in the games. Because of this, the settings always feel unique and interesting compared to most other games. They also feel pretty mature compared to a lot of other games I have played; Megaten games aren't afraid to tackle more taboo issues like death, sexuality and politics, and they generally do it very well.

I also legit think that this series has the best gameplay as far as JRPGS go; press-turn system gets a lot of praise (deservingly so, because its fucking brilliant), but even the older games had design choices that feel like no-brainers which really set them apart from other games in the genre, in my opinion, such as full party customization, the importance of buffing/debuffing, being able to allocate your characters stats (seriously, why is it so rare for jrpgs to let you do this shit), and most importantly giving you different factions that you can align with, with their own good and bad points, and trying to make them all agreable on some level (instead of GOOD BOY and EDGY MORON like so many games try to pass for choice these days). Basically, the games give you a lot of freedom to play how you want, and actually reacts to your playstyle, which is the mark of a good RPG. I honestly find that I can't really enjoy other jrpgs much anymore after getting into this series because I just think 'eh, I could be playing some MegaTen instead of this generic crap'.
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So, how bad is SMT X FE really?
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>>148457376
I 100% agree with all this. SMT games are unique and likable as fuck. I honestly feel sorry to the poor fags that diss or pass the chance of playing SMT game because "muh edgyness" or because "it's not Persona".

>>148458331
I heard that the gameplay is pretty solid actually but everything else is horrible.
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help me smtg
each day comes to an end but
i can't find the exit
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>>148458958
You already went through the exit, my fiend.
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Actually i like the Law Ending in SMT IV.
Make Mikado Great again
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>>148457376
>trying to make them all agreable on some level

Law and Chaos are both presented as idiots in SMTIV. I've seen a lot of games try for all factions being right, but this is the first where both are wrong.
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itsumade
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>>148453941
I find that SMT4 kind of gets weaker as a whole the longer it goes on, with the exception of the "alternate timeline" areas. The beginning setup is amazing and your early exploration of the main area is super interesting. But as it goes on there's just so many plot elements that are poorly handled or totally forgotten about and you end up rushing right through what should be the most expanded up portion of the game. From the alignment lock onwards it just feels like a rush to finish things up as quickly as possible.

I'm hoping Apocalypse manages to fix a lot of that, since it's basically the lock onwards turned into a fully fleshed out game
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>>148458331
I like it a lot, but it's definitely more Persona+Fire Emblem+JPop than mainlike SMT. Story is kinda dumb but the idol angle is interesting and the characters are likeable, battle system is great
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>>148461289

>but this is the first where both are wrong.

Strange Journey.

Also Law in SMT II. The ending itself is good but the faction is completely insane.
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>>148462374
>Strange Journey's Law and Chaos
>Wrong
They're not inherently wrong. Just taken to the extreme which, to many, probably is the purest form of Chaos/Law and so the best.
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>>148461816

I wish we'd done a little bit less wandering around Tokyo and spent a little more time in the alternate worlds.
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Devil May Cry 5 featuring Demi-fiend from the Shin Megami Tensei™: Nocturne® series when?
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>>148454856
i want to fuck flynn
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>>148464782
No you don't
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>>148464641
[spoilers]It's dead anon. I'm sorry...[/spoilers]
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>>148464881
yes i want
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>>148464882
>spoilers
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>>148465074
go back to gay furry land
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>>148461473
Let us summon Debisama.
How's the progress on the translation patch?
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>>148465178
No, i have to change this into a rotten general.
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>>148465230
It's true that Sony didn't allowed Atlus to localized it because of lack of new content?
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>>148465351
Leave then, we'd be much less rotten without roleplaying fujoshi.
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>>148465803
Yes. Sony's retarded policy. It's because of the same reason that USA didn't get Breath of Fire 3 PSP port. They eventually revoked that and now we have the PS4 flooded with ports of games from 1~2 years ago with nothing new.
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>>148465803
that is what the rumor is about, i dont get it the game never fucking came in the west
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>>148464641
best i can do
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/smtg/ and DMC5 are not dead!
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>>148468859
WE WILL NOT CRACK
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VL5RPQVx7M
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>>148374562
That's the item's name and gender compatibility overlapping.
There's no way to fix that without advanced technomancy.
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will kaneko ever come back or should i give up hope?
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>>148471336
>he still has hope
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Majin Tensei II OST is pretty catchy.

Translation when?
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>>148471336
Kaneko died a long time ago, but it hasn't been revealed officially to don't scare the shareholders.
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>>148472845
Post download link or some favorite tunes senpai.
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>>148473706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG6aq9tsVkg

Best battle
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>>148417067
>Play 20 hours of Nocturne
>It's not nearly as good as any of the other Megaten games I've played
>Stop playing and beat a 1st person Megaten instead

Every fucking time.
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>>148458331
It's simply not a bad game. The mechanics are rock solid and the gameplay is fun. It's an ATLUS RPG in every way, so if you like ATLUS games, you'll probably dig it. The nods to Megaten are cute as well.
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>>148477026
>Not playing Nocturne in first person

>>148475751
That was dope
DL'ing OST ASAP
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>>148477642
I mean I would have had to beat it first, and I wanted to spend those 30-40 hours playing other Megatens. I beat SH, KMT, and SJ instead.
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>>148478836
30-40 hours?
ZYou eally think you can do it?
I mean, I thought I more or less blitzed through that game and it was still like an 80 hour run.
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>>148479116
Fair enough, I was estimating ~60 but I could totally be way off (I was adding that 30-40 to the ~20 I already played). I loved the atmosphere but the gameplay just didn't do it for me for whatever reason. I seem to have a proclivity for the more 'old-skool' Megaten games it seems. Beating SJ in under 60 hours felt like my first true Megaten accomplishment.
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>playing smt4
>got law on accident

FUUUCK

how long would it take to beat the game again
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Who is the old lady/Lady in Black suposed to be?
Lucifuge?

>>148479489
I want to beat Sj, but I just started DDS 2.
I don't know if I'll be able to count DDS and DDS2 once I've cleared them though. The incredible tendency of those games to crash during emulation means that I ended up savescumming through the first game.

I might not finish DDS2 and just go back to SJ desu.
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>>148477026
Every time I play Nocturne I get sleepy. Actually recently when I play any rpg I get sleepy fuck my life.
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>>148479934

Reincarnation Restart makes things a cakewalk
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>>148480101
Me too

Actually, it's not even just for rpgs, I'm sleepy all the time
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>>148472845
>>148473706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEGN2R5QyvU

Majin Tensei games are pretty easy to play, if you know at least some basic Japanese. If you're interested in the story, here's the script dump:
http://bmky.net/data/m2/data/scenario/
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Is there any SMT game where Luck is actually a useful stat?
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>>148480718
Megaten I and II, imo
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>>148480718
Soul Hackers
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>>148480718
Debisama and SMT4
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>>148309824
Boring dungeons full of padding.
Shitty bosses thanks to the shitty combat.
Retarded fusion system. Getting a skillset you want is incredibly tedious thanks to the sources and alignment splits.
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Everyone talks shit on Lucifer's design but this looks dope as fuck
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What was the ending picture of law strange journey based on?
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>>148489349
>chose White first time around
>feel bad, go Law next playthrough
>mfw you do the exact same shit
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>>148489519
>Obeisance.
These games have taught me many words.
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Hoy.
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>>148439609
I usually have a demon with Finders Keepers out, so now all I have to do is run around a Nameless Shrine. Thanks, I thought it would require more effort.
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>>148492583
Que pedo el hombre caos
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>>148492583
No, mañana.
>>
Media
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>>148495731
Bufula
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You are inflicted with LOSARM.
What do?
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SMT x K-ON!
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>>148498479
Rush to the Cyber Lab in Ginza.
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Why Atlus never came back to DDS style Hama, it's way more useful and much better than being just a white version of Mudo.
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>>148501473
Because they're stupid.
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Hoy.
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Did anyone else have trouble beating Douman in SMT1? I was able to beat him on my second attempt but it took a long time to kill him. Me and the heroes were lvl 10 and I had a Kobold.
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>>148501473
Same reason they kept MP for physical skills after Strange Journey. >>148501645
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>>148506119
No because I play SMT1 Min/Max and the Alignment Heroes always have huge MA/INT, also just use Cerberus you fucking idiot
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>>148506231
Calm down you autist, I realized too late the dumping points into STR isn't the best idea and I forgot I had Pascal
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>>148509460
No you calm down nigger, you lost your dog by bein such a bitch ass messiah
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So he's basically the demon version of Batman?
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>>148506119
>>148509460
I dumped STR on me and C. hero
still had no issues
you must have had shit demons
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I'm not even sure what is going on in this game at this point but I'm loving every second of it.
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>>148515036
It hasn't even begun.
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Oh man Devil Survivor gets tough towards the end, I'm on the last day fighting the last two Devas and I am just burned out, this shit is harder than Nocturne.

That mission where you could choose to fight the angels, demos or all of the above took me over a day because I didn't realize I could attack the humans and make them disappear.
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I was told this was a shitty spin off game that nothing happens in, I didn't expect all this suffering.

That last 2 floors of the Evil Spirit Club is not cool man, you can't just drop that on someone.
The Nurses were pretty hot though.
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>>148520173
Rei a cute.
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>>148520280
I'm just praying her suffering doesn't get worse during the Muscle Dungeon.
And that these Muscle men all leave me alone.

Her suffering is pretty much guaranteed from what I've seen so far.
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This is the point where my choices actually start to matter, right?
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>>148515036
God this boss fucked my ass hard.
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>>148488330
It's the first one that sucks. Like an alien squidward.

>>148278569
Anon tech still exists in SJ Chaos. It's just only the demons and humans they view worthy use it.

>>148179342
Not when it's actually Satan.
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>>148490234
>Both Routes have them outright tell you all is part of YHVH's scheme.
>Gabriel even mentions in the changeable challenge quest details they gained Knowledge beyond their ken about God that drove them mad
>Still surprised when it's revealed he's behind both sides in IVF/A
>Mastema even guides humans towards Neutral so that belief will spawn in God naturally. Ensuring his inevitable dominance.
Always cracks me up.
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SMT x Dota2
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>>148522312
>It's just only the demons and humans they view worthy use it

Wait, really? This was never mentioned in the Chaos Ending.

>>148523945
SMT x Dead or Alive.
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>>148510785
That's what I always thought.
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>>148524034
Anon that was the whole point of Eridanus. A garden blended with technology and under the watchful eyes of demons.

Fornax itself is a giant databank of everything that has existed on earth.

Even the crew bring up they make/use tech for violence as you fight. Especilaay the gal in sickbay. Human Civilization is not permitted.

Hell Mem Aleph breathes on Space Marine for story buffs.

>>148524093
I!m expecting the next Invaders attacking in RB's Ronaldo ending is Betelgeuse.

>Saying his name three time summons him.
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>>148515036
Fuck this guy. It was the hardest boss in the game. I wish the final boss was at least half as hard as this one.
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>>148475751
>>148480543
Fuck, this sounds damn nice. How hard is the game? I could use for some actual SMTxFE.
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>>148480543
There's a site with th first games script too. Don't know where.
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Anyone have pics of Apocalypse's clothing options? I saw a golden pimp coat and a military BDU
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>>148525367
I thought Eridanus was just a nod to Arcadia from SMT2.
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Do you need max stats on everyone to fight Satan in DDS2?

I don't have it in me to grind noises again, even though it's been about a year since I fought Demi-fiend.
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Hoy, wake up, it's morning.
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>>148533718
>2pm
>morning
Is Maken Shao worth it? I bought for like 3€ a couple of years ago because muh Kaneko designs but the gameplay is horrible. Is the story anything good or does the game get better as I play it?
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>>148530551
It's both.
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So, what are the latest translated SMTs? Havent checked on them in years

On a similar note, did they ever release the Android port in English?
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>>148537793
>EOPs literally play SMT on phones
Holy molly.
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>>148537793
The latest one is probably Kyuuyaku I think. We're probably getting Devil Summoner PSP soon-ish or not.
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>>148537950
I like playing games going to work, sue me

>>148538195
Thanks
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>>148538242
Be sure to kill your coworkers over alignment differences.
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>>148538195
>We're probably getting Devil Summoner PSP soon-ish
Isn't the translator's stance "just buy the 3ds port ;^) "
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>>148538242
No problem, man. The translator actually posts here sometimes so we're getting updated on their work progress.

>>148538329
>Devil Summoner
>3ds port
wut. Are you mistaking Soul Hackers for the original Devil Summoner?
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>>148525627
Majiten 1 is very easy. You can clear most of the scenarios with just Atsuya and Mio, but things get a bit harder about when you get to Scenario 40. You want to level up your Strength and Vitality for the hero first, but Magic comes very important for defense mid-game. I used this guide while playing it; there's a lot of information, including script dump and requrements for the best ending (getting it is a real bitch):
http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/sss-4/majin.html
www.gamefaqs.com/boards/581302-majin-tensei/65988192

Majiten 2 is more balanced gameplay-wise and more story-focused (some of the cutscenes look amazing). You can equip armor and weapons on your demons in this game, and Moon phase is important for critical hits and demon negotiation. It's also important to learn the races' affinities. There are some scenarios with hidden events to get which you must speedrun the map (clear STAGE 2-4 SHINJUKU in 15 turns, etc), so I recommend looking up if the scenario has any in advance.
http://bmky.net/data/m2/data/scenario/
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>>148531197
You don't have to. Use the Noises you have on Seraph, Cielo and Argilla - those three are the best choice for Satan fight.
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>>148538674
Alright, definitely gonna give it a spin during this summer. Thanks for all the info and the links, anon.
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The hell is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hruVuitxSSM
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>>148540291
RPG maker, duh.
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>>148540291
>2000+16
>never toyed around with RPG Maker XP/VX/etc
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>>148479934
Law's the best route to play first, since there are no NG+ exclusive demons/quests on the Law route. Make sure to unlock all the Law exclusive demons before starting NG+. Go for Chaos afterwards.
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>Using the free "Rescue X demon" DLC map for macca grinding in Record Breaker doesn't count against the Focused title.

I feel like I didn't earn this.
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>>148544953
>mfw downloading the CIA for DeSu2's DLC because I want this game over
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>>148544953
>>148545050
>mfw I share this general with these type of epople
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>>148545320
DeSu fags?
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>>148545320
But I don't really like DeSu2.
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>>148545320

Maybe they shouldn't have had the map scale to the next day's enemies.
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Post your favorite SMT villain.
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>>148546670
>villain
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>>148546670
>SMT
>Villain

Wut.
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>>148546739
>>148546794
>destroys the world
>is mean to you and your teacher
>his reason is taking away everyone's freedom
>not a villain

Here's your reply.
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>>148546919
He's just a bitchass faggot who was kicked out of the Gaians
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>>148546670
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>>148488330
Smt4
Looks
Like
Shit
Kaneko
Is
The
Soul
Of
SMT
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>>148501473
Isn't it the same in SMT4 Apocalypse? From the trailers I've seen a long time ago using hama or mudo reduces the enemies' HP at least, but I'm not sure anymore since it has been a while.
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>>148546919
>destroys the world
The world was gonna die anyway because of the cycle of destruction/creation, if you know that is gonna happen it is just logical to try and take control of the process
>his reason is taking away everyone's freedom
Not really, he wanted to create a world where there is no individuality, and thus no suffering. If there is no 'self', there is no reason for freedom on the traditional sense; you could argue that a world like that is more free than an incredible inequal world like ours.

He is a dick and also kind of a pussy for wanting a world like that (even Shinji Ikari was brave enough to reject this kind of concept!), but if anything the villain of this game would be Kagutsuchi or the Great Will, the guys pulling the strings behind creation.
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>>148550026
In DDS Hama was percentage based and Mudo was instant kill; 4F has Hama and Mudo both as regular damage-dealing skills with instant kill effects possible on Smirk.
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>>148545487
>>148545605
I meant DLC buyers/users
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>>148553508
Ok, I didn't know it wasn't percentage based in SMT4 Final. It would have been better.
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>>148553595
Gotcha. Still not as bad as DeSu fags.
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>>148554514
DeSu is great though.
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>>148554707
Don't start, you.
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>>148554514
DeSu is good.
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>>148554707
You meant to say DeSu1 right?
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So I'm playing Lucifer's Call and all of a sudden it's taking way too long to load anything.

Is this a common problem, or is my disc just fucked?
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>>148556098

DeSu 2 was also good. Fight me nerd
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>>148555184
To this day I refuse to play DeSu2.

But it is always fun to see the general sperging out for the Xth time about whether DeSu2 is shit or not, and delving over who is the most gay and autistic character in the game.
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>>148558481
I'm playing it right now and it's rather droll
Only good characters are Io and Joe, Daichi is a whining faggot, Makoto is boring, and Yamato is uninteresting and """"cool""""
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>>148557283
Lucifer's Call is a shit game filled with DMC memes.

Play Nocturne instead.
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>>148560637
It's the Persona of SMT.
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>>148560771
I would if I could.
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SMT in Kyoto when? I swear, even if Atlus were (probably) the first company that made a game set in Tokyo, at this point too many recent animu games have modern Tokyo as setting.
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>>148561589
I also find it odd. Japs are supposedly super nationalistic, and yet, they ignore 90% of their country in most of their media.
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>>148561589
They'll probably feel like it won't be a "real" mainline SMT. Isn't it why Strange Journey isn't a numbered SMT? Because it doesn't take place in Tokyo and the main character's nationality isn't even established.
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>>148563690

Nah he was japanese in the jap version. I think Jimenez even comments about it.
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>>148556098
Yes. DeSu 2 is a pain to play to be honest. The story I mean, since the gameplay is fun as fuck just like in DeSu 1 albeit easier.
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>>148563917
Oh ok, I thought it was left ambiguous on purpose or something.
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Just started SMT4.

Are all the endings disappointing, i.e. is one more rewarding than any of the others?

I'm 34 years old and don't have time for NG+, pushing it lugging around a 3DS as it is.
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>>148565001
If you don't have time for NG+ but you want to complete most of the game, get the neutral ending. You'll have the dungeons and bosses from both the law and chaos routes. You'll most likely need a guide to get the neutral route.
I can't say which one is the most frustrating/rewarding story-wise though, the neutral route answers more questions than the other ones if that's what you mean.
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>>148565749
That's the answer I wanted. Thanks.
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SURVIVED THE FALL FROM GRACE
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I'm playing DeSu2 when does it get good senpaitachi
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I'm going to randomly post a image from my SMT folder
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>>148570061
Honestly, never.
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>>148571893
Shieeet
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>>148571760
Lemme try...
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>>148572275
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>>148570061
>>148571958
It has pretty entertaining boss fights and character routes I thought. IDK why people act like story is so important to DeSu.
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>>148563917
Hold up, wasn't the space marine Japanese in the English version too? I swear I remember them mentioning it.
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>>148574714
Gore says you're "another american" at the very beginning of the game.
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>Raphael mentions that Flynn has the blood of the unclean in him in their dlc fight.
>Most people ignore it because non-canon battle.
Turns out that most Mikado Citizens who became Samurai had at least one ancestor from Tokyo after the Counter-Demon Force reached the surface and the chosen descended. Just as the Archangels changed the people of Mikado in the cocoons with the DEMONIC GENE.

Flynn was LITERALLY unclean because of his DNA. So was Isabeau and Jonathan.
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>>148575216
Then I guess I'm remembering wrong.
In my defense though, I had a 2-3 month break about 1/4 through the game before I went back and finished the Law_ route.
I'm really fuzzy on the details.

You can thank the glory of Air conditioning, praise be thy name, for getting me into SMT though.
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>>148575792
>Wanting to be a soulless husk singing YHVH's name forever.
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>>148576279
I swear I accidentally got locked in, I didn't wanna help Lady Gaga screw over humanity.
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>>148576610
Well at least you didn't pick the easy route.

Because Chaos is easy cause you're so str and so is your mexican boyfriend.
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>>148533867

Maken X is just better overall because the first-person camera forces you to fight strategically. It's basically the same game but it's way less awkward. It's still not the best action game ever, but eh, it's the lone Dreamcast Megaten-related game.
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Is Apocalypse harder than SMTIV?
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>>148576701
I kinda feel bad about killing and/or betraying Gore though.
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>>148576849
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>>148571958
Just play it for the bosses to be honest. The gameplay is damn good.

>>148573475
DeSu 1's story, despite all the DeSu haters, was great. An excellent plot, good pacing and good characters although the anime-ish tropes here and there fuck up the writing. DeSu 2 just shits itself with the story so the gameplay is the only good thing left.
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>>148571760
Sure.
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>>148571760
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>Tfw you never made that bin+cue version of SMT2 for PS1
oops
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>>148581130
Do you have the one comparing smt and persona fans?
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>>148576849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNJ5i-UqSvg
Also 7 fucking endings. or is it 8?
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>people keep talking about how they're excited for Persona 5's social links
>they still don't fucking know that there are none
It's going to get a 5/10 because "it lacks what made the persona series great" or some shit, isn't it? Fucking waifufags.
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>>148583180
>they still don't fucking know that there are none
When did we learn this? I highly doubt they'd drop them considering people really liked them in P3 and P4.
I didn't, but I still really liked P3.

Social links are a good idea, they were just done wrong.
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>>148583180
But there are social links, though they've changed the system somewhat.

Why are you so angry?
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SMTIV is my first SMT (I'm from /feg/), just found out there's DLC, should I buy the DLC? Or, is it not worth it? I've got $50 on my eshop.
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>>148583180
for real, there is none of that shit? might look into P5 then
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>>148582610
nope afraid not, have another random image
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>>148583720
pirate it nerd
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>>148583762
I see, thanks though.
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>>148583893
No. I don't support piracy.
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>>148584054
>lawfags
FUCK YOU
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>>148584130
How bout you just answer my question? Is it worth buying? Yes, or no?
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>>148584196
just buy clipped wings
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>>148584304
Why just that one?
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>newfags trying to fit in saying sleepy journey is the best megaten

Everytime.
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>>148584196
Buy Clipped Wings, both of them.

Also, Ancient one of the Sun, The Eternal Youth and For the Past...For the Future.

They're story related DLC.
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>>148584515
It's been the contrarian's choice for a while now.
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can we discuss the best megaten?
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>>148585096
Of course.
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>>148584768
Any of the others worth it, or just that? I bought all of the DLC for Fire Emblem Awakening, and Fates, and was mixed on some of them. I liked some, hated others, so I've always been wary of DLC.
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>>148585692
>I bought all of the DLC for Fire Emblem Awakening, and Fates
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>>148585837
What is your image meant to convey?
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>>148585692
Well, there's some DLC for Armor, but, unless you like a particular set, i recommend you forget about them.

There's also DLC for grinding. money, EXP and app points, if you feel lazy, buy them.
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>>148585880
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Please post your favourite music track.
Preferably not Persona songs.

Starting off/of? with the grooviest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzbPNNX9LxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETikJ6VVnjw
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>>148586251
is this mothman hot sister
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>>148586251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P37X2TJv4jk

>tfw can't find a longer version
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>>148586412
Moon bunny, I think? Pretty sure Kaguya is some chick that came down from the moon and refused to marry a bunch of dudes who proposed.
Then there was something like a persistent emperor who refused the immortality she granted him when she was taken back to the moon, simply because he's a drama queen.

I just kept it because the design is nice though.
It has something to do with Persona, but I haven't played P4.

>>148586581
That is so unfairly short.
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>>148586251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnH19zIIL2Y
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>>148586251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vyBQIxq1I

HACK YOU
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>>148587181
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Bamboo_Cutter
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>>148587741
>As she handed it to him, the feather robe was placed on her shoulders, and all of her sadness and compassion for the people of the Earth were forgotten.
>Her Parents were left to cry over losing someone that no longer cares for them.
Poor moon girl.
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>>148589270
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>>148588843
hard to be surprised a girl is basically an alien WHEN YOU FOUND HER IN BAMBOO THO
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Can someone explain the main differences between IV and Apocalypse?
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>>148589795
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>>148590260
Apocalypse is a sequel that starts before SMT IV ends, cancels out the ending and continues the story.
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>>148590526
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>>148590551

Any differences gameplay-wise?
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>tfw no SMT tabletop game
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>>148591139
At least a half dozen rulesets have been made for an SMT or Persona tabletop game.

But nobody has ever played them.
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>>148591224

In Nomine kinda works?
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>>148586251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epiX-bJ0tVk

fite me
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>>148571760
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>>148586251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYKIyyDHzao
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>>148586581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3-bAHlFIZc
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>>148585247

That's probably the smuggest bunch of characters I've ever seen.
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Hoy.
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>>148582610
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>>148585837
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>>148583180
>>148583721
They're pretty much there under a different name and slightly tweaked.
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>>148599982
This is a little biased and only works for the more extreme sides of both fanbases though.

SMT side is a little too positive.
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>>148599982
Thanks.
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>>148575410
>Flynn was LITERALLY unclean because of his DNA. So was Isabeau and Jonathan.
I'm hesistant to believe you to be honest, but are you implying Walter wasn't? That'd be funny as fuck if that were the case.

>>148600323
>A joke image isn't entirely true
Stop the presses.
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night fags
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>requesting picture of Gale with "unacceptable" underneath his face
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>>148606026
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>>148600323
What? I thought that all of us were respectable japanese gentlemen with ponytails...
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>>148606404

I have something more akin to Beatles hair. Whatever, I get enough compliments.
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>>148583180
It might get some negative comments early on. But I'm sure that as long as the MC can interact with and date the girls from his party, the waifufags will be alright.

In fact I may even dare to say that if there aren't S-links, the Persona fanbase will say that they were shit all along which they are.
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>>148583180
The game still uses the calendar system and is thus a life sim and not just a dungeon crawler. There's no way social links or a replacement system won't be present. What else could they do?
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>>148606404
>Japanese people
>having hair
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What ending for SMT 4 should I pick?

I just want to end this, it's probably the worst SMT game I've played
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>>148607603
Neutral extends the game quite a bit, so go for Law or Chaos.
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Ugly Fumi figure is out in December, I guess
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>>148571760
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>>148571760
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I bought the PSN version of Devil Summoner today. Does it have slowdown issues or does it run like this on PS2 too? It feels really sluggish. Is the sequel like this on PSN too?
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>>148607603

It was my first and I loved it.
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>>148607603
The White.
I also hated SMT IV but I still got all the endings, you pussy.
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>>148434518
I'm this guy.
You >>148450106 really weren't lying when you said it's hard. I'm up against hellhound (first boss) and I can't beat him. Guess I will just grind for a while.
Also, I have missed something about ''order'' function in battle. When I change order, does it mean the enemy will immediately attack? How can I even know after whom will the enemy attack?
> random unrelated pic for attention
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>>148612296
>When I change order, does it mean the enemy will immediately attack? How can I even know after whom will the enemy attack?
As far as I know, this depends on your Agility stat. If you move a character that is slower than your enemy (probabably Katsuya) to the top of the list, then the enemy will end up acting first, even if your other characters are faster (as they have to wait until the slow guy does his thing). Of course, you will change your order a lot to take advantage of Fusion Spells, so this stat is very important.

As far as I know, the only indication of who is acting next is the "Next" that appears on top of the healthbars on the bottom of the screen.

>Hellhound
This boss is pretty nasty for when you meet him in the game; I believe the secret here is good use of the "Guard" command (which is really important for boss fights in this game, as you will soon find out). A attack from this guy will probably take away over half the health of one of your characters, so whenever someone gets hit, put them on "Guard" and have someone else heal them (Katsuya is strng against fire, so have him use health items or something). Maya is your trump card, of course, because she can can Media and hit him pretty fucking hard with Aqua, so focus on keeping her alive. If he misses, Fusion spell.

It only gets harder, by the way.
>>
MT2 is nice but is any goal stated explicitly? It seems like random people just tell you about stuff and it becomes your new goal even though there's no reason for the characters to care most of the time.
Not sure how much of it can be skipped if any though.
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>>148613508
> As far as I know, the only indication of who is acting next is the "Next" that appears on top of the healthbars
It doesn't appear on enemies tho.
But thanks for the tips. I guess I will have to git gut
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>>148377989
N-no one? Pls respond
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Hoy.
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>>148621386
>/smtg/ hates SK
>/smtg/ posts SK anyway
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>>148621482
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>>148621482
Why does smtg hate SK?
That seems like such a random rivalry
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>>148623002
I don't think i seen anyone complaining.
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>>148623002
>>148623159
I remember asking about SK here like one year ago and almost everyone brushed it off as shit games. So either no one from then is here or only EURfags like SK.
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>>148623220
Oh yeah, i remember now.

Also, i'm American, i just woke up.
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>>148623317
Good morning.
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>>148623405
Mornin'.
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>>148623691
I'm having lunch, anon.
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>>148623768
And i am playing Granblue Fantasy.
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>>148623891
>playing mobile
I have a big enough backlog of actual games. Though I downloaded that new FF Exvius, you know if it's any good?
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>>148624005
>I have a big enough backlog of actual games

As do i, and low cash.

I dunno, i never played a FF game.

And i am playing GF via Google Chrome, fuck getting a cellphone.
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>>148623220
its still shit
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