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EVE Online General /eog/

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nobody made a new general edition

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Read the UPDATED /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ser9Acpg

>Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Soon, new shekels madness with cerebral free SP and stuff snek themed.
>Did you forget to do your dailies?
>Cap changes, fighter changes and legal drugs: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6523897#post6523897
>June 28th Sneks Supers and Titans: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/shadow-of-the-serpent-signal-the-dawn/
>Winter: new "drilling platforms"
>Fall: new "industrial arrays", barge reworks
>Summer: AOE BOOST/LINK REWORK, citadel iterations + contracts, Rorqual rework

Past:
>May 31: RIP old camera, new multi-use analyzers introduced
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>May 24: DO YOUR SP DAILIES
>May 12: Name ships automatically with a saved fit name
>May 06: Eve Online 13th Anniversary
>Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released. Tears, bugs, etc. RIP rolling yachts.
>Apr 21: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-11-election-results/
>Mar 09: Massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits.
>Feb 18: Last CSM X Summit: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-second-csm-x-summit-meeting-minutes-included
>Feb 09: SP trading
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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Can we please keep the shitposting down this time?
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>>148620731
Thanks Kevin
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>>148620808
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>>148618965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNk8I7FbpZ0
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OFFICIAL LIST OF WORST TYPES OF PLAYERS IN EVE:

1. Nullsec botters/ratters/mission runners
2. Highsec botters/ratters/mission runners
3. Nullbabby napfest blobbers
4. Lowsec 'elite' link-alt slave set pvpers
5. 'hisec pvp'
6. Miners
7. Industrialists
8. Traders
9. Scammers

9001. Honorabru solo roamers

90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec

900001. C5-6 WH pvpers
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Why will you not multibox today, /eog/ ?
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>>148622174
Because I only do 1v1 honorable fights
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>>148622264
You seem like a swell guy to be around, m8.
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>>148622174

Because I'm okay with playing the game on a single account. Multiboxing is okay though.
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>>148623158
>tfw no thukker skin
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/dog/ census now lads

http://strawpoll.me/10759243
http://strawpoll.me/10759243
http://strawpoll.me/10759243
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join tengoo
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>dual rep omen
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>tfw dual rep and dual prop sfi master race
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>using meme fits
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>meme fits
>implying anyone pays attention to what some pizza shitter on /eog/ classifies as a meme fit
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>>148627918
Fit smaller guns and xlasb.
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I have 14kk, finished all the tutorial missions. So i have: 2 Venture, 2 Nereus, Tristan, Navitas, Catalyst, Velator, Atron.

I found standart catalyst fit for salvaging, but which one i should use for PvE or if there anything that i can afford better than catalyst at this momment and also which minimal fit i should have for some wh explo early one( i don't mind if i'm gonna killed tho).
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>kk
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>>148628694
salvaging is a meme, sorry

probably you want an algos for newbro pve, I don't have fits though
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>Trade outside of Jita
>Takes 5 years for orders to fill
>Trade in Jita
>Get .01 isked every 5 minutes
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>someone does a massive undercut with a tiny quantity
>all the shitters follow along and 0.01 to the top
>mfw
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>>148629508
>someone does a massive undercut with a massive quantity on a low tradevolume item
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>>148628694
AB destroyers are fine for belt ratting, not so much for any anomalies.

You might want to go the drones route and get into a Vexor/Navy Issue. they can do pretty much any low-midtier content and if speed-tanked they can do Havens and Sanctums
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>telling a day-old player he needs a vexor navy issue
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>telling a day-old player on the rookie channel that you make hundreds millions from exploration everyday
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>newbie asks about ratting
>BRUH HAVENS SO AFK GAMEPLAY XDD
Gas yourself
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Looks like
she was
doomed
from
the
start
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>>148629645

Its annoying but low demand dictates lowered prices.

Whats good to do is to tank your prices to bait your competition down and buy them all out when they're just above the buy price. It's amazing how many retards exist that think .01 isking is all there is to jewing.
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>>148629939
Can you enlight me on this object?
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Are relic/data sites in c4-5-6 whs more profitable than lower level 'holes or are they all roughly the same?
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>>148633673
they have rats in them, to the point where they're basically a combat site with some hacking bits in as well. don't bother
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sites in 4/5/6 have niggers in them that you have to kill first, no exceptions
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>wormholes
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some vaporwave for the soul my friends.
https://youtu.be/rjReFOaDGUQ
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>>148636294
was just looking for something to listen to. thanks anon.
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high sec music is vaporwave
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>>148637104
what is the music of lowsec, nullsec, and wormsec?

please tell and share
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If they replaced the hisec soundtrack with vaporware I might actually spend more time there.
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>Go explore data sites in low-sec if you want money!
>1 carbon
Th-thanks.
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>>148636294
35:00

shit damn my friend this is comfy and somber as fuck. Its fucking with my feels.

>>148639080
gotta go to null...they said.
>2 carbon

Thanks y-you all!
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>Explore in wormholes
>3 carbon
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>data sites

There's your problem.
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>data sites
>carbon
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so only do relic sites?
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do both
hack all cans
leave nothing
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Playing the game is not elite. The playas buy plex xDD
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>data sites
>not gas sites
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No Man Sky confirmed Eve killer?
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>>148640935
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god another one? hold on a sec...
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>tfw nobody knows how to kill a 13yo dying gaem
Smh senpai
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>>148640497
Selling gas
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Elite already killed EVE.
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>>148641504
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>tfw eve will die in the year 2316 when star citizen will finally be released
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10M/h
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=487767

KEK
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>>148642380
Professor (((Lundberg)))
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>>148642571
epic
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>>148643049
testfag, pls stop with your epics and xD
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>test falseflag
Hello, oruze.
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>>148643306
its one and the same, bunch of meme corps.
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any way to increase smartbomb radius?
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>tfw no XL smartbomb
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>>148643947

>tfw no XXXL smartbomb
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>we decided to introduce capital smartbombs for amazing gameplay experience
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>>148644136
>we decided to give them a sig radius based damage reduction like bombs because we hate caldari
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>>148644136
what seems to be the ailment?
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tfw no smartbomb gf
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>>148631746
Enlighten you on what? Google it, mate. I know it is pretty hard as nobody gives a shit about EVE and everyone hoards their knowledge but try harder.
https://www.google.cz/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ratting+vexor+navy+issue
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>tfw you have 4 fanfics about you
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>>148642238
saved the picture. thanks, friend!
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>>148642393
tl:dr
is he quitting because his mom can trade better than him or something?
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So when people say to watch the directional scanner while exploring, what does it mean exactly?
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>>148645462
If you see probes or suspect someone is warping to your site it's time to cloak.
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>>148645462
it means press the scan button a lot and look at the results so you are aware of your surroundings, such as tacklers showing up and people dropping probes to try and find you
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>>148645462
Spam v (or whatever your refresh directional scan keybinding is) while you hack shit.
If you see a sabre on the max range, max angle directional scan, warp off and hide.
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>>148645462
>>148645663
And you can assign a shortcut to use the DScan, make it simpler
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Eve online: Where spamming a button every 1 second is engaging gameplay.

I cannot wait for No Man Sky.
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Dangerous star: Elite No mans citizen will kill EVE!!
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>>148645809
>I KEEP THIS GENERAL ALIVE BECAUSE I AM SECRETLY JEALOUS OF EVE PLAYERS HAVING F-U-N.
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Alright nerds, it's time for some hot >opinions.
I used to play EVE, seriously enough that I had a pair of accounts for multiboxing, so I could grind rocks while I went mission farming and being a general carebear. I liked the game, I enjoyed it, but this was back in 2010 or earlier. My question to you lot is: Is it worth returning to? I'm bored of current vidya and considering taking up one of these 'special reactivation offers' that show up in my spam folder every so often. Does the 3-week-referral thing the pastebin refers to only work for new accounts? Is it even worth resurrecting those old accounts to recover my couple of battleships and L4 mission running shit, never mind whatever skill resets have happened? Is eve dead, is it stagnant, is it better than ever?
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>>148646017
>>148646389

you two niggas can't even prove me wrong about how spamming a button ever second is engaging gameplay. Why the fuck is that even needed, it's just there to add tedium to an already fucked up game. just have dscan autorefresh
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>>148646448
as far as I am concerned, this is probably the best time to play EVE/get back to it.

if your characters are 5.5 mil SP+ (you might want more) you can buy extractors and sell their SP and pay for your other accounts/themselves.

really depends on what you look for in the game. imo you need a good group/community to 'feel' EVE and be engaged enough to log and actually play.

acitivity is arguably the same, goon war artificially inflated shit but some fools stayed
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>non-gas mining
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>1 tick
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>>148646560
I would 'prove' it to you, but you're simply set on hating this game for eternity.

And considering you enjoy superficial games as Elite, where depth means nothing - there is no convincing you, ever.

Just fuck off, nigger. Nobody gives a shit about your le opinions, an hero.
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>>148647070
le an hero black man racism

hahaha epic meams my friend simply epic xDD

Eve is the only games I have been playing since 2012. I don't hate the game you fucking retard, but that doesn't mean I turn a blind eye to retarded fucking mechanics
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Brace yourselves m8s, it's that one fag again that will shitpost ironically at you.
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>>148647389
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>>148645662
>>148645663
>>148645679
>>148645735
Oh, probes show up there. Had no idea, thanks.
Ships coming would show up on the overview though, right? I'm already always alined to a bookmark between two locations and ready to warp out.
I'll have to rework the setting so it only shows probes and ships, I guess. Does a lower range make it easier to find probes or something?
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>>148647963
you want to see them before they're on overview. you want to see as much stuff as possible

generally you'll be exploring in quiet space, you want to see everything that goes on. I generally scan at max range, and then if I'm sure people are trying to kill me I might swap to 1 au scan to see them warping in, or maybe just watch overview and be ready to warp/cloak

hacking while far enough from cans so you can cloak is a good thing
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>you racist?
calls others 'niggas'
>plays eve only since 20xx
hates the game

must be a beautiful life you have there
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>>148647963
>Oh, probes show up there. Had no idea, thanks.
Probes will show up if you set up your active dscan overview to show them.

>Ships coming would show up on the overview though, right?
Actively paying attention to your overview is more important than the dscan because cloaks exist.

If someone decloaks next to you, you will see him on your overview a bit faster. If you react in time, you are almost impossible to scram.
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>>148648553
niggas is a term of endearment in the African American community. White boys committing cultural appropriation is the fucking problem. Educate yourself retard.
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>>148648343
>>148649462
Can they target while cloaked?
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>>148650093
is this brutor serious
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widow for exploration yes?
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>>148650382
nyx is the entry-level exploration ship
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>>148651208
>not exploring in an Imicus
shiggy
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>Imicus
>Helios
plebian detected
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>>148651208
>entry-level
>147d training time
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>>148651601
>not flying the cutest astrometrics
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>>148651712
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>shite joke
>thatsthejoke.jpg
thatsthejokers are the worst
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>>148651959
>drink shitty beer made of fermented croissants
>smoke imported brutor crack
>go to work and design this abomination
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>>148652143
i'm sorry your simple anime-addled brain can't handle basic humor
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>>148652218
i watch anime and i got the joke
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>>148651712
>1128*625
>that black line at the bottom
biomass
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>>148652390
>only the highest quality anime reaction images for me, yes sir
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>>148650382
cuz it can fire torps so could be good at bubbled gates and it looks really cool

so i think yes it's a sound idea.
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>sir
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>m'lady
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>>148652218
>basic humor
indeed, as basic and simple as your life
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>there are people out there that unironically watch and like amine
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what if I only watch it ironically and think it's shit
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>>148650158
No.

All ships except the stealth bomber have a locking delay after decloaking.
Note that this has nothing to do with jump cloaks, only cloaking modules.
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>tfw going out on a roam

You better stay docked up m8s, don't want to lose your shiny ratting ships, do ya?
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>>148655731

This is the "community?" One that bullies and threatens players before they can even undock and play the game? No thanks, I'll stick with Elite where the community isn't awful.
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>>148656297
And then they wonder "why player population going down? What do? what do?"

Eve's community is toxic and racist. It's no surprise why things are the way they are
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>>148656519
fuck off nigger
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>>148656297
>>148656519
That's right, just stay docked up m8, like the shitter you are.
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>>148656606
bet you wouldn't say that ingame little dipshit
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>>148656698
You're right, but we aren't in game so fuck off nigger
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>tfw griefing people in /eog/ and eve
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>>148656770
exactly, that just goes to show how much of a pussy little shit you are.
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>>148656889
The only reason people don't tell you how much of a nigger you are is because you are protected by the mods.

Must be hard hanging out here, where you have to fend for yourself, subhuman.
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>lose my account just to call someone a nigger
yeah sounds like a great trade off
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>>148657041
>y-you are s-subhuman I b-bet you smell, t-too!
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>>148657428
The way you type, I suspect he is right.
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Drone nerf when?
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>>148657529
did you come up with that one yourself? Try not to overheat thinking of something more edgy
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>>148657913
Yeah I came up with it myself, guess that would strain somebody like yourself too much, better try to find some memes to spout at me from 9gag, m8.
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>>148658147
you ok? sounds like impotent nerd rage is affecting you. What else can you come up with?
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>>148658448
m8 pls, don't project your own feelings onto me after you have been told.

better go back to playing elite or running missions with your plate rep omen
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>plate rep omen

people dont actually do this do they
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>>148658663
wow looks like I struck a nerve. Even decided to include an image in your post to show how "totally-not-nerd-raging" you are.

what's wrong with Elite?
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>>148658802
No but I killed a plate rep vigilant a while back.
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>r/eog is still upset about my omen fit
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>whats wrong with elite
>that one guy who cant handle the banter
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>can't list reasons for why he thinks Elite is bad
>i g-gotcha!
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welcome m8s to another episode of the elite shitposter in /eog/
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>>148659785
It's not an MMO.
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>>148659954
>no proof
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>needing reasons to call out a shit game
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>>148660296
then why don't you call out Eve :<)
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>>148660220
>hey guys mmo1 is better than mmo2!!
>but mmo1 isn't even an mmo
>NO LETS COMPARE THEM ANYWAY!!

I took a look at /edg/ and from what I got it's not even remotely similar game. Fuck off back to your shit thread.
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>>148660538
because its the eve general
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>>148660608
it's much more of an MMORPG than eve is because you are actually roleplaying as the pilot in a spaceship whereas in Eve...I dunno apparently you are a ship in a pseudo-RTS game lmao
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>>148660656
dank excuse bro lmaooo
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>>148657592
dont you mean a buff? my meds miss bs all the time
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>>148660656

>>148660984
>you are a ship
u fokin wat
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>say star citizens/elite dangerous is better
>come on /eog/ to ask people to stop Eve and come play on their games

Guess which game is dying, guess which one is stillborn, guess which one will survive and rise again and again 'till the word say it name
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Friends, just ignore the Elite shitter.

Lets get this back on track, when is the navy caracal going to get gud?
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>>148661387
It's called a cerberus.
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>>148661387
it's all an act to keep the thread alive I think

and never
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>>148661512
But I want the navy caracal, not the cerb.
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could this take on the new event sites? r8 pls
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>>148661714
use bigger beams
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>>148661714
>omen
>beam
>plate
>amarr
it's like you're not even trying
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>>148661846
what do you mean?
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>>148661594
It's shit. Worst navy cruiser. Why do you faggots always insist on flying garbage when superior variant is available?
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>>148662048
for fun or bait
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>>148661714
>three fucking eanms

>>148662158
use maller or Naug/nexec
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>navy caracal bad
>implying this fit is bad
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>>148662532
this bait is pretty high tier
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>heavies without rigor
>fury
>4 em shits
lmao
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>>148662978
I guess >>148662532 made a fit to counter >>148661714
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>>148663098
You want to see two cripples fighting each other?
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>>148663269
Yes
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>>148661276
Man, that reminds me of that great "I am a ship" fic, wish I'd find it again. Where the capsuleer believes he is a ship and that when he walks around is when he's piloting something that isn't his self.
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>>148663816
>tfw docked
>want to fart
>accidentally engines
>20 station personnel dead
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if you're so great at omens why not post a fit
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BRING IT BITCHES
IM NOT WADDLIN MY ASS OVER THERE
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>113% pg
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>>148665938
stupid question,
"1.48k HP/s" means he can tank no more than 1.48k DPS ?
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>>148666467
It regenerates a max of 1480 EHP/s at 33% shield capacity
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>>148667215
isnt 25% peak regen?
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>>148667379
no
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>>148667215
okay thanks
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>>148667379
No its somewhere between 30 and 33% for maximum regen
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The ship renaming is bullshit. Is it that hard to make it so once the ship is assembled it must keep a name until assembled again?

When flying in wormholes or nullsec and having to rename your ship constantly is just a tedious bullshit meta mechanic.

Or at least change the way D-scan works, why would you even see the ships name when scanning? Instead, give any ship you meet a unique ID kind of you get with anomalies, ID changes if ship undocks or changes system.

This is just having-to-buy-fresh-clones-every-time-you-die level of tedium, fuck CCP, get it together, you ALREADY have unique tags in the code for all ships, can't be that hard to implement this.
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>>148669039
I'm sorry you are so autistic that you can't even come up with a good name for your ship.
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>having to rename your ship constantly

wat
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>Jackdaw
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aoe target painters when?
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>>148673076
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>>148674179
fug, i meant for muh gila
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>jeela
>>
swee pull
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>shit posting
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>painter on droneboat
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>using tracking mods on split weapons ships instead of paint
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>>148676571
>implying it doesnt increase their damage
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Vespa is your answer.
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>>148677017
>implying my vespas dont miss even battleships
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>>148677265
Lmao shitter
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>tfw bait a linkfag for a solo fight
>tfw you blob him
>mfw he dares to throw a hissy fit in local

whats wrong m8, I thought links were there to fight the blob
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>gank a link alt
>main just goes home, uninterested in fighting without links
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>tfw there was actually a thief in front of my house
>mfw he never realized that I have no life and play eve all night
>mfw he ran off
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rlml
>>
>his country has thiefs randomly walking on the streets
>>
>someone is ACTUALLY flying an impel next to me

Guys, there really are people that fell for the amarr industrials meme
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>>148688437
One of the few ships that looks worse than it performs.
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>>148688220
better thieves than truck drivers, though I heard those are nice
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>his
>he
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>not his
>not he
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>join new corp
>they spew memes on comms at all times
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AMARR LMAO
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>pirates little helper
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>>148688437
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>Hek
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>Highsek
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>highsec
>pvp
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>Xe fell for the honorable 1v1 pvp and thinks killing carebears is wasted time
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>haha le tears lmao amirite xD
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>he fell for the highsec pvp meme
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>he fell for the ironic shitposting meme
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>m8 what killed you
>i don't know it was all kind of flashing
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>he
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>>148620731
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>new fc and new scout on the same fleet
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>>148698868
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>your CEO will never make autistic diamond from bookmarks again
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>still no unironic omen roam
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>She doesn't call her FC "Mazda Savanna RX-7 Infini III"
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>>148700245
fuck off DHD or whoever that test fag that fucks subarus is
>>
>test
what
>>
>that feel when there are no corps that play without the constant, nagging need for voice comms.

Why do these obese autistic fuckos try so hard in this game?
>>
nice projecting
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>>148701787
>mfw corp rule says to be on comms at all times
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>>148702412
>mfw i am too important so they can't kick me
>>
>she has unwarranted self-importance
>>
>un
>self
>>
>be the only FC in corp
>tell CEO to ban someone simply because I hate their southern hick accent
>He does it

man it feels good to be a gangsta
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>>148704621
>southern hick accent
>>
Reported for abuse of power :) This is a democratic game :))
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>>148704621

Grieffer
>>
What the fuck is wrong with CCP's ticket system?

I was asked to submit additional info in response to my first ticket and after I did I got this bullshit.
Hello there, this is GM ----
I can see both issues were addressed on their corresponding tickets.

I will be now closing this ticket, if you have any further questions or require assistance please update the tickets pertaining this issue.

Thank you & Fly safe!

They did literally nothing. The only issue was that when my friend accepted the buddy invite we couldn't pick a reward out. It's taken two weeks of back and forth to get to this point.
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>>148706124
so your issue was resolved? what are you complaining about?
>>
>>148706250
No. That's the thing I still can't choose a reward and I already checked in game and I can't redeem anything either.

Same for my friend. Nothing has happened/changed. That response was sent after I was asked to link another ticket number.
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>When there's nothing but gas sites in the wormhole
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>>148709279
>doesn't want free isk
>>
Huff
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>>148701787
i like to pvp, sometimes i need to co-ordinate with pve guys who want me to come stomp rats or tourists trying to kill them.
waiting for some shitter to fire up comms is bad, but seeing you spam every thread with this pus just because you can't talk or whatever you're problem is, it's gettin old.
>mfw you're a one-note kazoo soloist
>>
>>148701787
>I couldn't possibly want to be on comms when playing a game that revolves around socializing and teamplay
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>>148712903
>socializing and teamplay
I love this meme.
>>
>>148713064
>I play EVE 100% solo and don't play with anyone
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>>148713115
It's the only way to avoid idiots.
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>>148709279
>When there's nothing but gas sites in the wormhole
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>>148713171
What about yourself?
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>>148713249
Idk. I just do my thing.
>>
So after a hiatus of about a year, I'm crawling back to this shit game, only because CCP gave me a buy one month get one month, and I see that there's a new launcher, but it's giving me a FUCK ton of problems. When I try launching it, a bunch of certificate errors pop up, one after another, and if I cancel it, the launcher is broken and incomplete. Now if I ignore these errors, the launcher is fixed and clean, but now it won't download anything. Anybody have any similar experiences or advice to send my way, fucking dope.


tl;dr: New launcher a shit, help
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>>148717402
Reinstall the whole game? Idk. There's gonna be stuff about this on forums.
>>
>>148702412
this >>148702589
Just do/be something for your corp that make you important and you will never have to be on comms all time
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>>148704621
I hope I find you IG and l33t pvp you to death, nigger
>>
>wh corp
>has supers
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>>148717402
I run it just fine, 100% better than the old one. Maybe don't use a pre-renaissance computer with W XP?
>>
>>148719053
Running on Windows 7 Professional 64 bit

>>148718298
Literally nothing on the forums, even Devs are stumped
>>
HOW TO FIX ASSFRIGS
>remove t2 ewar frigs
>merge ewar frigs with assfrigs
>(you'd have to nerf ecm first tho)
>)and fuck hyena. i want long web wolf. fuck painters(
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>>148719123
I do have W7 64bits and the launcher works pretty well and is far better than the old one
Maybe you should check your computer and update what needs to be updated
>>
>>148720229
>what is a Freki
>>
Been off for a year or so. Thinking about coming back bc summer and 2x1 fee.

>May 24: DO YOUR SP DAILIES
>Feb 09: SP trading

How of a shit are those? Any other ingenious updates that arent listed in op?
>>
>assfrigs are ok because AT ships exist xDD
>>
Idea:

>Have 1 main account
>Make chain of trial accounts and plex them with referrals, total investment 1 PLEX for the first one
>Multibox them and do event sites in hisec, with all of them at once (like 10)
>get RETARDED amounts of rewards once the boxes are opened
>ditch alts
>>
>>148721865
Not what I am saying, keep being retarded.
>>
>event
>rewards
Lmao
>>
Hello fellow Eveians, I have not played since November 12, 2007, 8:34 PM Eastern Standard Time. Please list all the changes that have taken place in the game since then. If you do not, I will make a list of grievances I have with this general and how bad each one of you are, starting with the OP and working my way down the list of replies.
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>>148723301
come at me bro i give less then 1 fuck with a margin of error of exactly one fuck
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>>148723301
annihilate yourself
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>>148723301
CCP added a cute mining frigate.
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prospect is cutest
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>have a hell of a time hacking a wormhole relic site
>finally get it after going through the entire board on my second attempt
>33k
>>
ignoring cost, is there a reason why the widow would be worse than buzzard for exploring? it can actually defend itself and not die in a single volley from gate campers
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> is there a reason why the widow would be worse than buzzard for exploring
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>>148732812
what's wrong with that man's wrist?
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mfw he doesn't fit a cargo scanner.
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Why didn't they give suspect tags for anyone entering the serpentis sites in HS?
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>>148735219
HS carebears would cry so hard it isn't funny.
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>check zkill
>still no exploration widow lossmails
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>rr vexors
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>>148736654
i do stuff in high sec
the police will never catch me
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>13 intact armor plates from one relic box
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>>148739738
thats sad
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>>148740915
not hachikuji though
she can sit on my lap
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>30 or so drones dropped around the gate for decloaking
>T3 comes through the gate, doesn't even get decloaked by them
>"Nice exploit, reported"
>>
he should report anyone who does that though
>>
So if I've got a hauler, and I get the Snake set of implants, will that decrease my time to warp by increasing my velocity so I get to 75% of max speed faster?
>>
>>148743831
no. if you increase your max velocity you accelerate quicker, but relative to your max velocity you accelerate the same. it takes the same time to get into warp

you want agility mods, and if you want to waste money on implants like snakes, you want nomads to get into warp faster. or you could use ascendancies for faster warp speed
>>
>>148743973

Thank you.
>>
>>148743831
your 0 to 75% acceleration speed will always be the same and always take the same time. The only way to reduce this is via agility.

Snakes only increase velocity and they don't make you get into warp faster or slower.

Nomad implants would increase your agility which would decrease your align time.
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>>148744660

I've got a speedy wreathe and Im working on getting a Prowler so agility isn't an issue for me, I just got a little thrown off by some of the implant descriptions. Snakes would be great for null though for if I get trapped in a bubble though, right? If so, I may go with those.
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>>148744989
>Snakes would be great for null though for if I get trapped in a bubble though, right? If so, I may go with those.

This is like saying "having a pot of honey would be great if I got attacked by bees, I could smash them with it."
>>
>>148744989
I'd really recommend not flying a snaked wreathe in nullsec. you're reducing your chances of dying very slightly, but massively increasing the value of your loss
>>
>>148744989
don't bring snake implants to null, bubbles are your biggest nightmare and its likely you'll lose them because a bubble disables your warp.

Ideally you can do the MWD-Cloak trick to get away more readily. Its where you break your gate cloak, align to the next gate, quickly cloak then quickly activate your MWD. The Cloak's speed penalty doesn't kick in until you're fully cloaked so you get this massive speed burst while being untouchable. When you're fully aligned and out of a bubble, break your cloak and quickly hit warp.

Takes a little dexterity but its an extremely useful trick. Either that or bring a Micro jump drive
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>>148745186

I'd be flying a Prowler once I get it. I only ever take my Wreathe into low.

>>148745221

Yeah I've been constantly practicing the MWD trick and I've gotten solid at it, not getting scanned at all through multiple trips through Uedama and Niarja/Madilmire at peak times. My idea was to couple the MWD trick with the Snake'd Prowler to get an even bigger speed boost to get out of the bubble faster before they can decloak me.
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>>148745619
>Yeah I've been constantly practicing the MWD trick and I've gotten solid at it, not getting scanned at all through multiple trips through Uedama and Niarja/Madilmire at peak times. My idea was to couple the MWD trick with the Snake'd Prowler to get an even bigger speed boost to get out of the bubble faster before they can decloak me.
The cost of snakes vs the gains you'd get simply isn't worth it and you're extremely likely to die in nullsec.

Seriously nullsec is pretty difficult compared to traveling through low or high. Purely because bubbles make it so difficult
>>
>>148745619
If you intend on traveling nullsec I'd seriously stick to travel interceptors, the travel yacht and carriers/jump freighters

Very seldom to people travel to relatively deep nullsec with DST's or BR's
>>
>>148745619
>Prowler

even then. ~500m of implants that will help you a little bit sometimes, it's not worth it at all

maybe once you're super good at it and know all the game mechanics and are dead set on hauling expensive things
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>>148745808

Alright, I see. I was thinking they wouldn't be worth it but thought I'd ask, it seems like a sensible bonus but they really are really expensive for what you seem to get. Thanks anon, I'll still try venturing into null but I'll save my implants.
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>>148746185
Yea definitely dude, if you ever have enough money, traveling to null in a carrier or instawarp-Yacht is so much easier
>>
>>148624813
The results were certainly unexpected.
>>
>prowler
>not prorator
>>
>>148718941
I would fuck you up you dumb hick motherfucker
>>
>>148750667

Aren't they pretty much the same, with Prorator being slightly tankier and Prowler being slightly faster?
>>
Is there any good way to escape cloaked people camping exploration sites? I tried googling but I can only find things about gate camp.
>>
>>148751805
Warp core stabilizers and awareness
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>>148751805
MWD-Cloak trick is good at avoiding them but that takes some finess. warp core stabs are also a good idea but if the camp is big enough, +8 to the warp core stability might not be enough when you have 5 cruisers scramming you.
>>
>>148751805

Only stealth bombers can lock you instantly after decloaking. Most ships need to suffer the decloak penalty + scan res, giving you time to fuck off.
If it's a stealth bomber just buy an astero or skill into T3 cruisers so you can just turn around and shank them with drones through their paper tank.

If these aren't an option just stick to null and only run sites in systems with 0 locals.
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whats the most lucrative thing a tengu can do?
>>
erp
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>>148753457

hauling
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>>148753457

Mine
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>>148753721
>>148753668
>>148753646
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>>148753457
guristas or serpentis 10/10's

Certain C3 wormhole sites
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>>148751914
>awareness
But the minigames Anooon.
>>
Bought my first vagabond.
What am I in for?
>>
>>148756865
Crushing disappointment.

it's a worse cynabal, which in turn is a worse orthrus.
>>
>>148754107
Every time I see this it reminds me of Civet Coffee is a thing and that Elephant coffee is a thing now too. This picture is totally real. People pay insanely high prices for it too.
>>
>>148760192
>literally eating shit

wow what the fuck america
>>
>>148760697
they also kill each other using guns and declare that it's a universal right that everyone should do so.
>>
if your alliance doesnt have multiple free freight delivery services you're in a trash alliance
>>
>>148761040
lmao
its hilarious to think people actually think like this
>>
>>148761583
>M-MUH WELL ARMED MILITIA

I'm sure you can take on a M1 Abrams with your walmart AR-15 you fucking hick
>>
>>148720229
>nerf ecm

great meme
>>
>>148761485
if you run a free freight delivery service you're trash
>>
>>148761878
oh youre actually one of them? youd sing a different tune if you had to live around niggers
>>
>>148762056
>T-THE ONLY WAY TO STOP BAD GUYS IS A G-GOOD GUY WITH A G-GUN

hmmm if only the dead cops had guns to kill the bad guys, oh wait...tell that to the Dallas cops and the three others dead today you dumb redneck motherfucker
>>
>>148762207
wait, what are you trying to say with this even? that guns didnt help the cops?
>>
>goyllente anti gun propaganda

just as expected, good goys have to be good after all
>>
watch how now that the pigs are dying left and right and their precious guns aren't saving them a good set of regulatory gun laws are gonna be put in place.
>>
>not talking about tengoo
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>>148762787
It could be worse friend, imagine that in some countries trucks are legal
>>
>amerifags and their delusion of grandeur thinking they will go all rambo and kill a bad guy even when that bad guy has the element of surprise on them.

they are like an R9Ker fantasy of saving a huge crowd, except redneck americunts
>>
>>148762787
gun laws will come eventually anyway, because young kids are too easily persuaded otherwise.

>>148763308
yes, that is what we must be thinking. there is definitely nothing else to it
>>
>they think the second amendment is all about their right to open carry a plastic walmart brand AR-15 and not of a bygone era where an armed population actually stood a chance of defending themselves against an army
>implying that's still the case for today
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is this the elitefag again or is this the guy who sees /pol/ everywhere?
>>
>the guy who sees /pol/ everywhere

that's like 90% of 4chan now
>>
>>148763573

>Implying its not
>>
Did you guys know in Amarr you can open carry handheld Tachyon beam lasers anywhere you want?
>>
>>148764957
no wonder the Empress got fuggin clobbered
>>
>>148764957
>mfw gallete will never know the true freedom of handheld lasers
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>>148762613
Firearms are legal in Gallente space.
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>>148765942
fucking rekt him
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>>148765942
>>148766093

>guns need to be illegal to have anti gun propaganda

there is a reason why the propaganda is there in the first place, its to ban guns

wew lads, top tier gallente education there
>>
what are you guys going to name your demon hunters?
fuck mt
>>
>>148766454
/polcuck/ believing in amarr talk radio talkingpoints
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>Gallente Federation
>"Land of the Free"
>Slaves are contraband

It's not fair...
>>
Any tips for the hacking minigame that might not be in the first few Google results?
>>
>>148770456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g88u9dMDZ7Y
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Give me ONE good reason to resub

pro tip: you can't
>>
>>148771605
unless you can name a game with an open, real market economy then eve is the only one like that.

you can't name another game like that
>>
>>148771605
But I don't want to give you any reasons, nobody wants another /eog/ shitposter in eve.
>>
>>148770916
Jesus.
How come this isn't everywhere?
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>>148772309
it's sekrit don't spread it around or no more shekles
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>small ancillary armor repairer
>4.7m
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>>148775271
m8 youre supposed to post the pooh picture with tht
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kys
>>
>Shitfit.jpg
>>
>unironically flying a garmur

tell me you don't do this
>>
PL sucks they only feed lmao
>>
>>148777685
over 2:1 outnumbered anyone would feed lmbo
>>
this game is marketed to cucks to be feeders for the 1% top players lmao
>>
>>148778462
"how would you like to be a miner, gather resources for this great economy in Eve: Online. Everything is player-made! How cool is that?"

>player proceeds to be a miner cuck AFKed anytime he plays.

what a great game CCP
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>give player an option to do something within the confines of the game, among many other options
>he picks one and does it
>this is bad
>>
ssssshhh, you'll upset the ebin pvpers
>>
no you're ebin
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Join gallente militia
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>>148787689
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>americans can't read
Not surprising.
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why is r/eog so dead
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>>148789470
go be racist somewhere else dumb motherfucker
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FUCKING SNUFF BLOBBING FUCKING COAWARDS HOW CAN WE USE OUT SUPER/TITAN TRUMP CARD TO DSAVE OUR FAX MACHINE/RATTLE EZ WIN DOCTRINE WITH A 300 MAN BLOB. FUCKING NC. SHOULD HAVE PINGGED HARDER TO SAVE US.
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>galmil
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[Typhoon, Typhoon]
Gyrostabilizer I
Mining Laser Upgrade I
Reinforced Bulkheads I
Reinforced Bulkheads I
Reinforced Bulkheads I
Reinforced Bulkheads I
Reinforced Bulkheads I

Data Analyzer I
Ship Scanner I
Large Shield Extender I
Survey Scanner I
Sensor Booster I

Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Civilian Miner
Small EMP Smartbomb I
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>White Stag more dead than ever

Have they finally taken the exit bag?
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ded gaem
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>white stag
>ever not dead
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>tfw on the verge of coming back to eve
>tfw all-out is dead
Now who am I supposed to shitpost with?
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why do you guys think Eve died? Post your theories ITT
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join sergaljerk
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>>148793341
because normalfags got to it
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When is benji coming back to eve?
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>>148651712
Are you actually oblivious to the joke??
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>exploration widow
>not exploration scorpion
>mfw ecm burst range
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>not explo nestor
are you literally baiting right now
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post a plate rep exploration nestor fit
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>tfw no capital SOE ships
>tfw no capital Mordus Legion ships
>currently planned capitals are reskins of current models without any noticeable difference despite the additional bonuses
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guys post quadruple plate omen salvager fit pls
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>>148795001
>mfw the "new" serpentis caps are just reskinned gallente
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>>148795015
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>>148795513
wtf wheres your two reppers
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>>148795001
>soe titan is a titan sized carrier/refit/logistic ship
>is the only ship with an expedition jump drive that can breach into jove space
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>Still no option to jump to a systems sun without the need of a cyno
>Still no short 1-1.5ly range jump drive on subcapitals
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>>148799371
?
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>people with bad ideas and opinions are still allowed to post
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>>148801650
youll never defeat my dual plate buffer dual plate rep salvage omen fit scrub
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>people with caldari toons are still allowed to post
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>toons
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>>148799371
Stop.
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>haha dude I'm a TVP FC, let's run this nullsec incursion I'm a pro
>wtf why is nobody joining my fleet don't you want to clear this incursion?
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So I'm thinking of playing. Just opened up the launcher. I assume I'll be sitting through a download for a while. Anything I should know?
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>>148803571
Don't listen to anyone in this thread, they're so fucking stupid.
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>>148803571

Don't be afraid to make mistakes. You will fuck up many times, which will probably lead to you being pod killed maybe a few times, but this all will make you a stronger player. If you're still in trial, try everything out and see what you like, find a good corp but don't join any corps posted on /eog/. Don't be afraid to ask questions here but don't listen to obvious memelords.

Zakus are shit.
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>>148803571

Memedalore explains it best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui7ZTlfNngc
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>>148803770
I think I can see that
>>148804073
So dick around til I find something I like, got it.
Also, you're entitled to your opinion.
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DEAD GAME
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>>148803571
get m8s

game is shit without m8s
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Svipul and Confessor nerfs when?
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>>148804748
I just want to know what they're even doing right now

updates.eveonline.com says there's not going to be any actual content until the autumn expansion

maybe they're doing +/-500 hull for capital ships
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>>148803571

Avoid mining as best as you can.
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>Reyni's eyes didnt light up as she said hello to you today
remind me why I havent biomassed yet
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>>148805746
>heart plug
What did you mean by this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3K-jRXij-w
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>>148805746
>>148806128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKd2YldRvB8
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https://soundcloud.com/traeumerftw/fireside-2016-07-17

>1:35
>Impericucks evacuating Saranen and give up on retaking Dek
>Mittani's empire is officially dead

The Iron price is paid. Never anger the pirate horde's.
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>>148808803
where are they going
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why do people hate mining so much? there is nothing wrong with it
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>>148810047
>there is nothing wrong with it
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>>148810047
posted from my battlestation running 30 clients at once all piloting hulks
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>not gas mining
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>>148810025

Super sekret. But either:

- Go kill rival goons south
- Go blob with Fcon and claim it was all won thanks to them
- Go dronelands and die to Russian blobs
- Go to fountain and become TEST 2.0
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>>148810591
Coon civil war sounds exciting
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>>148810591
>test 2.0

?
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>>148812352
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=2.0%20%20(two%20point%20oh)
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>>148810047
Its quite literally the least engaging thing in the game and yet the entire economy revolves around it. Its the least lucrative, least enjoyable, least everything. The entire value of your minerals is ENTIRELY around supply and demand. Unlike other forms of content that have some kind of variable that CCP can control the pay-out of, mining doesn't have this.
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>>148812951
people think most minerals come from mining, when in fact they come from reprocessed rat loot.

If they all literally came form mining, mining would be A LOT more profitable.
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>>148813174
After the drone-loot removal, much of the economy shifted to supply side. Battleships were no longer 60m isk and now are upwards of 180m.

While rat loot certainly contributes the economy still crutches on this awful awful system. Often times the only profitable way to make this work is do mutli-box set ups collecting massive amounts all at once. To do it alone barely gets 20m an hour and level 3 missions would be more money, quicker + LP
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>>148813174
Also I think that because rat-loot provides more is purely because doing missions, ratting, collecting loot in null is loads more enjoyable than mining
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>tfw regret joining two weeks before the war on Imperium

Well at least its fun being on the end of getting demolished. Nothing but glorious sweating.
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Doing PI and loving it
>only have 6 planets
>with 1 character
>producing organic mortar applicators
>synthetic synapses
>and supercomputers

its taking a long time, but its paying for itself and i barely have to manage it. Just a little importing here and there.
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what does it mean when youre at a data site and shit just explodes and disappears off map leaving you with shit all
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>>148814575
Did you fail two hacks on the same box? You only get two attempts before they self-destruct.
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>>148814690
nah the whole site disappeared
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>>148814575
Ghost site?
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>>148814575
read up on ghost sites
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>>148792004
>>148791340
>>148791157
whats this meme

>>148803571
join all-out
we always want new people

>>148803770
ya

>>148804483
officially

>>148814027
shit i still havent dropped command centres yet


also watch my videos, goyim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziTncQ-y1Jg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OJhoeog-Vk
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>>148816541
marle is the cutest girl I know
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>>148815853
>>148816107
yeah ive had ghost sites, but this time npcs didnt warp in and destroy everything. it just exploded like a minute after i got there
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>>148816751
<3
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>>148816541
>pls look at us we r relevant ;_;
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>>148817259
>relevant
relevancy is overrated
I have fun with people i like, its good enough for me.

join all-out
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What is the purpose of the CSM? Seems like it's just there to protect and advance the interests of the alliances/corps their members represent. Why did CCP let this happen? It should just be abolished desu
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What is /dog/ working on?
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Hey /eog/, could someone send me a buddy invite? Finally have the time to devote to getting into this game, and which company should i join/how?
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>company
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>>148818218
other that literally saying "le smiling dog faec" or "le will smith faec" in comms, what the fuck good is all out for?
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>>148818652
found the goon
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>>148819276
heres your (you), its late.
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>>148819148
turns out you dont really need time to play this game
you should have subbed and started training skills years ago
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>>148819148
sent ;)
join all-out
http://wiki.whitestagexitbag.org/doku.php/public/guides/applying

>>148819418
but we dont do those things, anon
i just told you what we're good for
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>le smiling dog faec
>le will smith faec
Said no one ever in comms
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>>148819148
Just don't join >>148819706
Unless you are some redditor faggot.
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>>148819960
>t.Redditor
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>>148819706
Thanks :^)

>>148819683
I picked it up and put it down because i wasnt in the position to sink effort into a subscription mmo.

>>148819960
What are some other good corps then? i just want fun people to play with.
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>>148820327
training skills doesnt take effort, it takes time
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>>148819824
>implying you would admit to it
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>>148818776
thanks for reminding me to login. All my cruiser BPO's are done cooking
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>>148819475
but Goons have been in the csm, past and present, and possibly in the future as well
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>>148820954
>projecting
vocaroo pls
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>>148821415
truly a mystery how that meme got started then huh
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>>148821361
I fucking stopped my cruisers bpos at 9/18 because the last levels take fucking forever. Shitting t2 ammo is more profitable anway.
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>>148821613
I intend on making BPC's out of my BPO's so they have to be 10/20 to get max profit when selling them
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>>148821552
what did you mean by this?
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so who's couch are goons crashing on now
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>>148822180
NC. but goons aren't really making it
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>>148822256
naa, not the north
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le bump
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>>148821753
Wanna buy any of my shit? I'm not continuing it and it's just lying here.
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Reminder that best bros forever
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>visible on dscan
Trash
>>
>>
RIP two gun Nag
>>
How do we fix assfrigs?
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>>148831183
-50% resistance to webs
-Immunty to Microwarpdrives turning off to Scramblers and Interdiction mods
-30% resistance to electronics warfare.

Purely defensive buffs
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>>148831183
fitting bonus to mwds for a start
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>>148831525
50mn frigs?
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>>148831516
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>>148822180
The Caldari State's
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Anyone ever played or looked at the Chinese server? What's it like compared to ours?
>>
>>148835174
Only heard some stuff: LITERAL blue donut, bots everywhere, ridiculously expensive plex, exclusive skins, lot less suciding
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>>148835493
why do chinese people hate fun
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>>148836007
Gotta sell isk
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>>148836108
but they could only possibly be selling isk to other chinks whats the point? afaik they're basically still in 2006, the main trade hub is even still Yulai
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>stratios can take blops bridge
>can't light covert cyno
????
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>>148835174
I know they used to, and still may, have a Much larger Meta than us. I mean Battleships and Capitals were their fleet ships of choice. The big war they had ,if I recall correctly, was fought like that and hence they lost more Capitals or fielded more than the largest Battle on Tranquility at this time.

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-49-u6u-slaughterhouse

Here is the write up CCP did.
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>>148836373
>implying it wasn't staged by chinese goverment to snatch the record from filthy imperialists and to preserve the glory of communism
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>>148836373
>a Much larger Meta than us. I mean Battleships and Capitals were their fleet ships of choice

more like they're all shit at pvp and their economy is fucked up
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>>148831516
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>>148837071
Cool. I can report it and finally force you fags to die.
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>grrr i'm so salty and gay about something that happened months ago

t. /v/bros shitter
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>white stag enabler
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>>148837071
requesting another mussah x timm3h written like this pls
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>>>/v/345433712
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>>148838334
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>EVE online """"""""general"""""""" is on page 9
>meanwhile, GOAT game Star Citizen thread on /v/ is on the front page
RIP CCP
RIP EVE franchise
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>>148841505
>front page
Are there still people that don't use the catalog?
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>Amarr
>>
>"I never really tried exploration, should I?"
>>Just do data/relic sites in low sec bro, you'll make hundreds millions in no time even with shit skills!
>tfw made -1 million over three days.
Was it all a ruse?
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>>148842261
I made 160m isk doing c1-3 wormhole exploration yesterday. No ruse.
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>>148842806
But wormholes have null sites I don't have the skills for.
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>>148842261
no you're just retarded or something
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>data/relic in low sec
Literally why the fuck would you explo in lowsec
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it's good to base out of lowsec for exploration desu, u210s literally everywhere
>>
>haha, hello blopsers and smartbombers! I'll stage from here, k ? :)
>>
>blopsers and smartbombers

mfw delusional highsec shitters
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Right, I forgot hic camps.
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>hic camps
>to kill a covops
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>>148845006
I barely find any data/relic sites in the first place. rip hopes and dreams.
I'm just going to try null sec's pirate faction named sites again.
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>>148845918
so you looked in a shitty place where other people took all the sites, and now you think exploration sucks
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>>148845961
Even if he did found sites, the lowsec ones are garbo.
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>>148845918
I was making anything between 50 and 100 million an hour exploring in null sec on a month old character.
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>>148845961
If all the places have so many explorers that you can't find uncamped sites anymore in low-sec, yes, low-sec exploration blows.
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>>148846093
>all the places

so you tried all of lowsec
>>
LOWSEC
SITES
ARE
FUCKING
SHIT

It's not the fucking danger or the place. There is no good or bad lowsec. It's fucking GARBAGE
>>
>literally years of discussing how to make money in EVE
>spending money, i.e. pvp, is pretty much never discussed
Either /eog/ is really fucking good in pvp, or it is extremely bad in all aspects of this game.
>>
>pvp
>spending money

lmao shitter
>>
>>148849352
>>spending money, i.e. pvp, is pretty much never discussed
What exactly are you implying?
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>>148849407
Hence the former.
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>>148849785
I'm complaining about the lack of pvp talks in /eog/, it's not hard to figure out.
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>>148849981
Nobody talks about pvp because shitters like >>148850196 think they are so funnah XDD with their garbage fits.
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>garbage fits

no
>>
>hahah le plate le rep le beam xDddd :DD
Fuck off you stupid nigger. It's garbage no matter how much you gonna meme about it.
>>
>>148849352
What's the point in discussing spending money if you don't have any?
Unless you can sell me the best possible solo PvP fit for under a million, skill books included?
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>no arguments

face it, plate rep is the best
>>
>no rep power
>no resists
>no buffer
Here's your arguments :^)
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all of them are wrong though
>>
post eft with your dank stats :^)
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>eft
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>pyfa
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>neet irl
>hardworking in EVE
I don't get myself
>>
>still no balance shit
>>
>>148841505
>/v/
is for fucking faggots
>>
>>148858816
>implying /eog/ is any better
>>
KEVIN
>>
>>148854001
why is arya stark dressed as a dog
>>
>mfw flying amarr irl
>>
Arty
Vagabond
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>Javelin
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>>148864995
this is a pretty garbage fit

your shield booster only negates 29dps, one fucking hobgoblin presses that
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>Small Shield Booster II
>>
heavies or hams for pve tengu
>>
le trole phit i have toled u guiz xDDD
>>
>>148865821
HAM's because of damage and application

Heavies are shit
>>
>hams
>application
>>
>>148866456
better application than heavies and fuck tons more damage
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>>148858816
>t. /v/ bro
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>range doesn't matter guys
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Vile Rat Memorial @ RNC
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>>148867245
it doesn't on the tengu, with the accelerated ejection port subsystem you get HAM's out to 30km. the tengu tanks so hard it simply doesn't matter that you're not directly in range. The range on heavies isn't worth the massive damage loss along with 10% less explosion radius and 20% lower explosion velocity.
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>>148865821
rlml
>>
>>148867985
DPS is worse than Heavies because of the reload time
>>
>Cerbs with HMLs
Why do people do this
>>
>>148869773

good depending on what you are fighting
>>
>>148869773
because its super easy to kite at 80-100km away and hit battlecruiser size targets with enough alpha to compete with hurricanes and shit.

Its an effective doctrine that carries little risk.
>>
yeah who cares about range, right? it's just a meme, let's all use electron blasters with void
>>
>>148870136
>just explained how range wasn't an issue with the tengu in particular especially in PVE
>hahaha lemme use the range excuse again
>>
Can Garmurs kill Hurricanes?
>>
i'm convinced nobody in this general knows a fucking thing about the game
>>
>>148869773
Dude what?
They are a fantastic doctrine ship when they have Scimitar support.
>>
>>148871037
get under its guns, sure.
>>
>>148871069
>t. not a knower
>>
>>148870136
speaking of range. im in simela right now, and im about to jump to berdhasopt, and seekers are attacking me from 20,000km away. they're missing me, but whats the deal with that?
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>>148871947
they're special boys
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>Waffles
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>>148872963
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>Waffles
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>PL
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>PVE
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How's Catch as a place to live anyway? Easy to get in/out of, and how's the logistics from amarr?
>>
>>148874386
you want to live in nullsec without jump freighters and moving all your shit through hostile camps every time? nobody does that
>>
>>148875770
Assume freighters are an option. Is catch even in range of anywhere decent, or do you have to midpoint in provi or something gay like that?
>>
>>148875964
no idea sorry m8. catch is pretty big too so it probably depends where also
>>
>>148874386

lots of content but you are surrounded by total fucks, it rivals low sec levels of stupidity
>>
>those one guys that don't play the game solo and get to forge their own destiny with their own hands and power.
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>>148876678
tfw your destiny solo is getting fucked over and over by bads in hics and svipuls
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>>148876678
>forge my own destiny
>my destiny fucking sucks
>join a blob nullsec corp because catch and querious fucking blow
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>still un/ironically shitposting on /eog/
manchildren
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>>148875964
theres a highsec gate you retard, not to mention the curse entrance

fucking hell just look at a map

logistics are easy as shit in catch, at least compared to fucking dronelands, god just fucking end me (especially post-phoebe)

the twats living there now are a special kind of retarded and theres only three systems with good truesec for ratting which just happen to border the shitfest that is the querious fight club bollocks (fucking shits)

the isk is shit unless you're a lucky explorerboy
logistics acceptable - you can make good time to the querious border by midding in saminer
used to be 2 jumps off amarr undock now its three

dont get dreadbumped by the faggot that lives in saminer (dw hes really shit)


you could always just be friendly with the hed locals and bring loaded freighters through there
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Where are goons moving? Are they coming to querious?
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>>148878732
i hope someone kicks those fight club twats out
literal NIP cancer (oh they deny it so)
rather it be broski than goons but whatever
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>NIP

wat
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>he doesn't have a NIP and an ANG in a radius of 50 system

r u a retar?
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>>148879273
Non invasion pact.

AKA blues in denial.
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>>148879562
happens a lot with renters in the south and east cause of russians

still not really blue, what's the point in taking their sov if you can't use it or actually evict them
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If you don't have NIPs then you aren't a real sov entity and by all accounts most likely shit-tier unknowns.

Sorry oruze, white stag, and the myriad of /dog/ retards who think of themselves as relevant. You're shit.
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>>148881089
>>
>>148881089
>This is what nullbabbys actually believe
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>>148881089
What does nip stand for?
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>>148881469
either non invasion pact, or non infrastructure pact, depends who you're asking.
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>>148881469
slur for a japanese person.
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>>148881469
I think it's related to cucking
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>>148881387
>>148881157
prove me wrong then, faggots

Hint: You can't
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>relevant
>what anon really means is "part of a group of fags who reddit talks about"
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>if you don't rely on an agreement to not play the game to protect yourselves you are bad
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>>148881731
If you can't hold your own shit without bluing up everyone three regions around you, then get the fuck out of nullsec.
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>>148881926
nips aren't blue
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>>148881926
>t. highsec missioner

listen, kiddo, shut the fuck up when the adults are speaking. You know shit about how realpolitik is done.
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>>148882295
Yes they are.
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>unironic blue donut cucks getting uppity
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>>148882464
well, no

they arent
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>>148882542
If you're at the point of promising not to touch anyone's big toys, you're fucking blue.

Same way it's still gay if it's just the tip.
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>>148882669

>sov
>big toy

?
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>>148882842
infrastructure. Like CSAAs, Citadels, moon POS etc.

As is covered by a non infrastructure pact.
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>>148882669
whatever combinations of words you can think of, still doesn't make it true.
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>>148882935

>lowsec blobbers consider these "big toys"
>>
I wish brave would actually do something about the darwinism mercs taking sov. All we ever do is out blob or out ship anything that comes to play. Or just dock up and wait for them to get bored and leave before undocking in salvaging ships to loot allies that got caught.
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>>148884271

thats how most newbie corps operate
>>
anyone else gonna watch the jews try to cash in on vile rats death tonight
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>>148884636
u wot m8?
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>>148884723

jews are parading out his mom to pander for votes
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Are any of you guys doing the Scope Network things?
Just started playing again today after about 5 months of not playing.

What kind of fit do you use? And what is the most efficient way?

Also, I am under the impression citadels are like deployable stations, is that correct? And can you use them in wormholes?
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>>148884934

its not worth your time to do them, gila if you must

yes, citadels will replace pos's eventually, you can place them in wh's
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>>148884934
I just use an old 10mn confessor I have lying around from the last one.
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>>148884934
>And what is the most efficient way?
For the Serpentis Shipyard & Research Facility sites, you only have to kill the middle group to unlock the vault.
>>
>try some lowsec pvp again
>faggots in local pretending to not have links snakes and a fleet

why did I come back to this shithole
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>>148888257

>lowsec

so you go to the worst space in the game and wonder why its shit

truly a mystery
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>>148888353
thanks friend
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>>148888405

np, anything else i can help you with
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>>148881089
You don't need a NIP to hold sov
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>>148888861

who says you do
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>>148889101
some fucking retard who probably rents
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>>148889137

why would they care

just call in their russian babysitters and they'll wipe your ass for you
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>>148888861
>plate rep omen is totally a viable fit

see? I too can come up with retarded phrases.
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>>148889368
Can I play too?

>viable artillery vagabonds
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>dual rep omen
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>that one retard who thinks he needs extra buffer because he'll magically get OHK'd by that sneaky tornado that'll decloak
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>that guy who thinks his dual rep omen will survive a tornado
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>>148889928
I mean is your total EHP more than 11000? if yes, you live
>>
>that one retard who put lasers on his armageddon instead of RLML's
>>
>not blasters
>>
>that one retard who thinks JF's are broken
>that one retard who thought that trollceptors were totally fine
>that one retard who thinks OHK NSA carriers are totally fine
>that one retard who complains about how multiboxing is bad, wrong or cheating
>that one retard who posts about ED in the EVE thread.
>that one retard who thinks Jams are ok being RNG
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>chance-based game mechanics are inherently bad
>>
>erebus with 80% ECM resistance, 1000+ sensor strength and shit gets jammed by a single fucking EC-300
>this is balanced
>>
>anon thinks 99% is 100%
>>
>anon thinks ECM is balanced
>just use ECCM guys
>oh shit you still got jammed, well just gitgud
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>anon thinks I said ecm is balanced
>>
ecm is fine idiots
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>its another episode of /eog/ can't basic math
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>mfw /eog/ can't even post 10 consecutive will smith reaction images
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>>148895432
including your post, its been 14 since the last will smith post
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>>148895720
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>complains about ECM
>doesn't even have 3 ECCM fitted
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>>148896407
>no bastion module for every ship
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>well we can't figure out how to fix this module, so we'll just hand out immunities to a few ship classes because the people who fly those ships are the most butthurt
>>
Bye Bye Svipul
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>>148897064

there are much better ways to kill svipuls that aren't that bullshit
>>
>45+113
>on a meta TP

did they always have this much range? nerf when
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>>148897064
>fly 500m orbit in prop mode
>can warp away anytime I want
This is the kind of fit that dies to frigates and gets posted on reddit by Oruze
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>>148896870
>we can't balance this module
>so we'll nerf EC-300's to just 1 jam strength from 5
>oh man you're STILL getting jammed constantly
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>>148897064
this is a pretty garbage ship for dealing with a svipul. A RLML Caracal is superior for dealing with T3D's
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>>148897064
Scythe Fleet Issue is the superior svipul killing machine guns or Rapids both work rather well
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>>148897556

>constantly
>>
>fags fly overtanked defensive circlejerk fleets
>try to pick them apart by investing heavily in ecm
>they're too retarded to instapop ecm drones, or use any eccm, or just get a move on and play less defensively
>instead they go to their special focus group to bitch about it
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>>148897909
yea its constantly, when you get an entire 50 fleet to bring just 1 flight of EC-300's to put on top of a titan with 1000 sensor strength and 80% resistance, you can jam a titan pretty easily over and over and over. Thats 250 rolls of the dice per 15 seconds on a titan and only 1 of them needs to land a hit even if the chance to jam is only .0002% each ec-300
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>>148898134
In Big Miker's last nano-naglfar video, he was in siege and had over 350 sensor strength but was still jammed 3 times in 4 minutes by one blackbird and one kitsune
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>>148898134

i'm so glad an aoe weapon doesn't exist solely to counter strategies like this
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>JFs aren't broken
>They're balanced because I'm lazy

if only he were here.
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>>148898393
Burst Jammer only affects one target and the things immediately around it. And thats for supers, not even for titans
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>be me
>have two falcon alts
>mfw oh the salt, so, so much salt
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>>148898451

are you really this stupid
>>
>>148898451
>>148898393
woops I thought you meant the ECM burst on supers and not fartbombs
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>>148898302
>zero investment in eccm
>gets jammed sometimes by probably fully racial paper gimp fits
>is in a retarded bullshit ship that can probably instapop them anyway

didn't they buff capital ship scan res to subcap levels as well now
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>>148897948
>be doing my thing solo on a ferox
>fight a myrm and a moa
>moa random single ecm drone jamms me twice in a row
>not enough hp/charges to continue the fight without basically committing suicide
>forced to play defensively, de-agress and run away
>nobody ends up having fun
>start to bring links to every right just so that doesn't happen again
Yeah no.
They ecm needs a rework.
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>>148898614

>links are fine
>ecm is somehow broken

wow
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>>148898582
he had ECCM on
>gets jammed sometimes
losing 1:30 worth of DPS and engagement time is pretty significant.

>didn't they buff capital scan res
no they just took away the penalty, it still takes 30 seconds to lock a battleship and HAWS guns aren't that powerful
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>>148898480
I'd rather encounter a falcon faggot than a link/snake faggot

>>148898614
>ECM is broken guys I got jammed once
>>
ECM has existed for 13 years now. It's never gonna be "fixed" because it doesn't need fixing
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>>148898698
Links are getting reworked.
Plus I only use them to prevent Ecm bullshit otherwise I would be always solo.

As long as an have to deal with bullshit mechanics I will counter them with more bullshit.
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>>148898776
ECM has always been the one EWAR under huge debate and CCP has changed the balancing on all of it except a fucking reword like it needs
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>>148898702
>losing 1:30 worth of DPS and engagement time is pretty significant.

I'd love to hear some suggestions from capital fags on how much effect ewar should be able to have. so far I've only heard them say all caps should be basically immune
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>>148898776

stop oppressing them

>>148898850

>i got jammed
>ecm is bullshit

what an argument

>>148898867

>like it needs

except it doesn't
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>This game isn't P2W
>mfw when everything is accounted for, I will always kill you 1v1 with my two falcon alts

I love I get to legally cheat in this game by abusing broken mechanics and policies
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>>148898971
its immune currently, it wasn't when big miker had his stream. You got a huge sensor strength bonus plus resistance all of which did nothing
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>1v1
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>>148898982
>except it doesn't
>IT DOESN'T BECAUSE I SAID SO THATS FINAL
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>>148899110
>all of which did nothing

what, because you watched a meme video and a ship got jammed some times in it? I'd prefer to hear the actual probability
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>>148898982
The argument is how little you need to jam people, all you need is L4 skills or some luck with shitty cheap drones and you're good.

I mean whatever I'm a player with many resources and pilots.
Keep the bullshit mechanic, don't be surprised when I drop triage supers if your one ECM300 jamms me tho.
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>its round #1254334 of "Let's bitch about ECM and pretend something will happen; muh capitals edition"
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>I'm not completely immune to all game mechanics
>this is bullshit
>>
>>148899253

which has more merit than

>its broken cause i got jammed once

>>148899475

please do
>>
Daily reminder that all in all, this game is a straight RNG-based outcome and there is no such thing as player strategy.
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>>148899346
>meme video
you can't even come up with a proper rebuttal, you don't even have a reason on how the video is fallacious so you just call it a "meme" because you have no answer

>got jammed some times

a blackbird and kitsune removed a naglfar from the field for 30 seconds 3 times one after another.

He had siege, which gave him 80% ewar resistance, it also gave him +50% to sensor strength and he had an ECCM sensor booster which gave him over 500 sensor strength and he was jammed 3 times by two ships that don't have more than 12 jam strength each.

>the actual probability
so at the time, siege gave 80% resistance to EWAR, that means the potential 12 jam strength from a blackbird is really just 2.4

so ECM works by dividing the jam strength by the sensor strength and thats the probability of a jam

so 2.4/515 = .004% chance and they nailed him 3 times in the 5 minutes he was on field before he died.
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>>148900008
why didn't his support kill the ewar then
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>>148899837
>it has more merit
no it fucking doesn't you're just saying "its fine because I said so"

I named a perfect example where 80% resistance and over 500 strength on a naglfar was crippled by a fucking blackbird and a kitsune.

RNG is inherently flawed, no other EWAR goes by it. Because of the RNG and the probability of successive RNG attempts makes it more likely as time goes on. This means you can just sit around and wait for your shit to go off and the probability compounds over and over the more times you do it.
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>>148900174
HAWS couldn't hit them out beyond 40km, the blackbird and kitsune always hung out at 50km+ while keeping their transversal up, he was never gonna hit them
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>>148900178
>ewar
>just sit around

sounds to me your fleets have no fucking idea what they are doing
>>
if you rolle a dice 3 times what are the chances that you get a 6 once?

That's why ECM is balanced.The ones arguing it's not are trollers
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>>148900008
no answer to what

>12 jam strength each

what kind of shitfits only have 12 strength

>.004%

so what's up. are you saying you don't believe it's really .004% or something, I don't understand. it sounds like you think it's really going to happen a lot more often than that because you saw some minutes of meme video and think that tiny sample is more important than real numbers. that's a really tiny number btw, it sounds like they gave these ships way too much resistance and strength (before they caved and just removed ecm from capital play)
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>>148900347
>press F1 through F4
>he'll jam eventually even if my chances are sub 1%
>your fleets
I'm not even talking about "my fleets" thats fucking RNG 101 is that the more times you roll the higher the chance of the favorable outcome happening
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>>148900308
>solo dread
>pissed off cause he has weaknesses

keep going, you are doing great
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>>148900471

thank goodness ewar ships aren't some of the most vulnerable in the game
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>>148900451
>>12 jam strength each
>what kind of shitfits only have 12 strength
a blackbird with a Ladar ECM II, overheated with 3 signal distortion amps is 11.2 I simply made it 12 because its a round number.

>.004%
>so whats up
thats .004% per cycle per module between the blackbird and kitsune, they could have upwards of 7 rolls of RNG there.

so if you keep cycling the probability goes up even though your chance to jam is the same each time. Successive rolls compound exponentially
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>>148900704
>Successive rolls compound exponentially

this fucking meme again
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>>148900505
nice shifting the goal posts, stop talking about broken ECM and just blame the dread because you ran out of arguments.

>>148900451
>meme video
theres that pointless buzzword again where you don't have a reason to whats wrong with the video so you just call it a meme as if that means anything.
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>>148900845

you bring an unsupported dread and wonder how its glaring fucking weaknesses get taken advantage of

yeah, thats a fucking dipshit dread pilot fault, not fucking ecm
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>>148900781
lets start again

roll a dice 3 times, whats the chance of getting at least one 6

inb4 1/6, 1/18, 1/54, 1/3 or some other retarded answer.

One anon last time had it right at approximately 42%
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>>148900957
>unsupported
it was solo, that was the point.
>weaknesses
you shift the goalposts a mile, first you were on about how ECM isn't broken and now you're bitching about how its the dread's fault.
>its not ECM's fault or ECCM's crap or Resistance's fault he got jammed, its the pilot, the pilot jammed himself!
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>>148900996
ok so let me walk you dumbfucking hicks through this again

a dice is 1/6 probability of getting one number, lets say six. If you rolle it three times, that is 1/6+1/6+1/6 which equals 1/18 because that's how much 6x3 is.
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>>148901127

ecm isn't broken
it is the dreads fault
>>
>guys it's not fair that a capital ship should get jammed, jamming is really harsh you can't even lock anything!

>>not a fucking word about subcaps (i.e. 95% of the actual game), they can all just get fucked since they're not part of the babby F1
trillion ehp hotdrop 99999 dps club
>>all subcaps should just be instapop shit that can't tackle, ewar or avoid damage from capitals :^)

if you want to make a case for ecm being overpowered, go ahead. but if you come and just say these ships that are probably 10x harder to jam than battleships need special ecm immunities, you should kys
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>>148901204
>a dice is 1/6 probability of getting one number, lets say six. If you rolle it three times, that is 1/6+1/6+1/6 which equals 1/18 because that's how much 6x3 is.
this is your problem

according to your math the more times you roll or cycle your jammer the worse chances you have at getting a 6/jam which isn't true at all.

its 1-(5/6)^3 where 1 is the whole of probabilities (any number) and 5/6 is the chance of not getting a 6 at all and the exponent 3 is the number of times you roll.
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>>148901356
>its totally fine that a single ship cripples one of the largest ships in the game, even though no other ship has that ability

a crucifier can't negate 100% of a titan's targeting ability, a maulus certainly can't, a vigil won't but a griffin can take it off the field for an entire 30 seconds just based on the RNG of the game
>>
>>148901356

with the way he argues, he's probably on the csm

these are the types of idiots they let make game decisions
>>
>>148901359
u just got troled by a troler
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>>148901468
>cripples one of the largest ships in the game

0.01% of the time
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>>148901204
>1/6+1/6+1/6 = 1/18
adding makes that 3/6 which is 1/2 stupid anon

>>148901546
its .01 on the first cycle then it exponentially grows every cycle after that. This is why 1000 EC-300's jam a titan so fucking easily because its little .0002% jams going off so many times that eventually just one gets through and thats all you need to stop it
>>
>>148901546
>0.01% of the time

its not even that high

but hey whatever, bring unsupported caps and wonder why they get blown the fuck out then cry about game mechanics
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>>148901656
>its totally fine for one single ship to cripple another multiple times because of RNG
>RNG is totally fine guys

I'm glad triage and siege are ECM immune again because its fucking dogshit
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>it exponentially grows every cycle after that
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>>148901656
>ECM is fine
>no its not heres why it isn't
>"meme" buzzword
>its the dreads fault anyway
>yea well thats what you get for bringing unsupported caps
come back with that goalpost stop moving it around
>>
make ECM a minigame where the first player to hack the minigame determins whether they get the jam off or not depending on which side wins.

BOOM there fixed, biznatches
>>
>>148901863

>can't coherently explain his argument

guys, debates are broken, we need to rework them
>>
>>148901903
or just do what other EWAR's do is negate a portion of the ability of a ship's targets or guns and shit

gun has tracking? reduce the tracking by a certain percentage via crucifier

gun has a target range? reduce target range by a certain percentage via maulus

gun has a number of targets? reduce number of targets by certain percentage via griffin
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>>148902003
>changes the subject because he gets BTFO every time

>ecm is totally fine
no its not and heres why
>well its just a meme video
so... no rebuttal?
>its the dread's fault
no its not and heres why
>its the dumb pilot and bringing unsupported cap ships and its his fault
you ever gonna stop moving the goalposts?
>>
>reduce number of targets

I love these totally retarded ecm suggestions
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>>148902184
better than rolling dice
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>>148902158

what subject has been changed

you have failed to explain why ecm is broken and every "point" you brought up has a reasonable explanation concerning existing game mechanics
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>>148902424
Jesus can't you read?

>ECM is fine
>no its not heres why
>WELL ITS THE DREADS FAULT
you see where you went awry?
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>NIGGAS BE ARGUING ABOUT ECM LIKE IT'S THE WORSE MECHANIC EVER MEANWHILE THIS GAME STILL BE RUNNING AT 1HZ MFW WHEN THERE ARE MORE PRESSING MATTERS TO FIX
>>
>>148902480

your only argument that it was broken is that a jam got through

if you'd like to make the argument for cap ewar immunity, then try that instead
>>
>>148902292
it's like rolling dice except you lose every time

I love the 'chance mechanics are inherently bad' esports shitters. being unable to lock for 20 seconds is why it's broken

you could make stronger tracking disruptors or whatever and put them behind a dice roll and they wouldn't be fucked up retarded like ecm
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>>148902580
>your only argument that it was broken is that a jam got through
3 successive times over 4 minutes via blackbird and kitsune on a ship with 500+ sensor strength and 80% resistance.
nice strawman

thank god siege and triage have ECM immunity again, nothing worse than being jammed constantly every other minute for 30 seconds each time
>>
>>148902705

>constantly

so you are upset that a solo dread couldn't kill a frig and cruiser i take it

because there's nothing wrong or broken about chance
>>
>>148902886
>I'm upset about broken ECM
>I take it you're upset about not killing the cruiser and frig
>>
>>148902953

>broken

you haven't coherently argued that point yet
>>
>>148903007
>I'm ignoring all your math, proof and evidence of it being broken so I can keep calling it "not broken"
>lalalala I can't hear you
>>
>ability to make any ship do fuck all with minimum cost
>not broken
>>
>>148903106

>math

how does that prove its broken? a successive series has no bearing on whether or not its broken
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>>148903245
>how does that prove its broken?
>I can't follow simple reasoning
it means despite the extremely low chance to jam, successive attempts at jamming yield higher probability in the long run. the longer you go without having a jam increases the probability of it happening until it does happen

a jammer vs a ship that has a 1/6 chance to jam really has a 42% chance to get at least 1 jam after 3 cycles
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>>148903354

>the longer you go

well thank fuck ewar ships are all extremely vulnerable
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>>148903464
>no its ok
>its really weak
>even though you can't hit it because it can jam you within its optimal of 90km
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>>148903579

>solo

so whats keeping you there jammed? or am i not supposed to bring up that you were in an unsupported dread?
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>>148903649
>so whats keeping you there jammed?
the blackbird

>unsupported dread
keep moving the goal posts because you love switching topics and blame
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>>148903710
>the blackbird

but you said 90km, is there a new disruptor/scram i'm not aware of?

i asked if i should bring it up, seems relevant if some jerkoff sat there by himself outside of point range and died solo
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>>148903873
Or you know, the fact that even in a fleet fight a blackbird could sit 90km off a pile of dreads and jam it relentlessly and the "supporting fleet" couldn't do shit about it because its a blackbird at 90km.

The fact that siege is an immobilizer says that you playing dumb serves no purpose

>hidden warp disruptor
siege
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>>148904010
>why don't you just warp in siege? are you bad?
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>>148904010

>relentlessly

your grasp on percentages is tentative at best

>we don't have multiple modules that can close 100km
>fleet fights without proper pings

>i scrammed myself
>therefor being susceptible to range/kiting is ecm's fault
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Kevin
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ECM is shit because it prevents you from doing anything. No other ewar does that.
If you can't see how is it bad, you are retarded.
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>>148904231
>>relentlessly
Well they jammed big miker 3 times in 4 minutes, he died in his first siege cycle and 90 seconds of his siege was negated entirely

So a ship with 515 sensor strength, the resistance of 80% against EWAR because of Siege II was thwarted for 1/3rd its effective siege cycle where no DPS or anything could be applied because a single blackbird and a single kitsune caused that. Meanwhile no other ship in the game has the raw ability to disable a capital ship in such a way by itself.
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>>148904462

i'm aware of what happens in the video

>meanwhile no other ship

well i guess thats why capitals require subcap support to deal with things they can't then
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>>148904632
IT'S NOT JUST CAPS YOU STUPID IDIOT.
Every ship in the game can be locked down with a fucking dinky griffin and you can't do shit. NO OTHER EWAR DOES THAT
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>>148904632
No other ship in the game disables the entirety of the targeting system of a ship. No ship kills that ability and kills that DPS like anything else.

Its not even about support, a single Bhaalgorn, max tanked and neut fit won't disable a naglfar or its tank especially if it has a cap booster or battery equipped.

An Arbitrator or Curse won't have the TD's strong enough to negate its weapons tracking that hard to the point they're unusuable

A Celestis or Arazu won't reduce the naglfar's targeting or scan resolution so hard that it won't be able to target things for minutes at a time, it'll never come close.

However with RNG and raw probability, a single blackbird will disable its guns, targeting and everything for 30 seconds purely based on RNG. Because its not the percentage thats the problem its the flat out check box that says you're jammed you're instantly jammed regardless.
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Kevin stop arguing about ECM and make the new thread.
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Is it me or has Kevin not been here lately.
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make a thread you cunts
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