/edg/ - Elite Dangerous General

Where can I grind Fed rank? I will keep asking!

>>148533852
Kill yourself.

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>>148534247
Done so, I had a 35 mil rebuy.

>>148533802
Newb here: whi is elite always online.

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But what makes Elite so compelling isn’t so much about the game as the experience. It’s the tinkering with and the taking out of a performance car for a Sunday drive, not to rack up more miles, nor to break any speed limits, but to just feel the growl of the engine and the wind comb through what’s left of your hair. To remember those carefree days arched over a BBC Micro or blinking angrily into a Lenslok and to forget for a short while that you have to make 357 people redundant in the morning. Elite is a hermetically-sealed escape capsule and it’s the best there is. Hell, you could fire the game up and just sit there on a launch pad and the sounds are enough to carry you away, so strong is your ship’s presence and so absorbing are the station surroundings.

Taking off, tearing through the station entrance a little too fast and just missing a Python, angling for the next jump, scooping fuel from a blazing sun, spinning the camera around your ship to catch its best profile, starting a fight just for the hell of it, seeing smok rise from the command console, hearing the screen crack and precious oxygen escaping into space and landing back at base with seconds to spare – these are the moments that make Elite essential. Trading, missions, mining – not so much. But it’s ok, we’re not going anywhere.

>>148534738
Because you suck, piss off.

Dead Space on GOG now
RIP origin

Okay, 4chan, how can we beat the feds at their own game?

>Pirate: Prepare yourself!
>Pirate: You don't want to die, I don't want to be poor. Empty your cargo.
>tfw I don't even have cargo space mounted on my current ship not running any mission either
That's not like interdiction are anything but piss easy to survive but man pirates npc are retarded...

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>>148531894

>>148534738

So you can't pirate it.

what's this i keep hearing about the thargoid tipoff? is it actually happening?

>>148537413
What is happening is another newsletter full of reposts from leddit and a shitty community paintjob.

>>148534738

Dads don't really play video games so they aren't really aware about how developers shove in "online" so that they can have always online DRM that players will eat up.

I guarantee you that this game was not made into an online multiplayer game because Frontier legitimately wanted to make a good space mmo.

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If anyone's getting sick of Sothis run there's a good way of grinding cr currently. Grab the biggest ship you have. Put 2 5A collectors, cargo racks, shields, 2 heat sinks and a fuel scoop (optional). Fill your hold 1/3 with limpets and head to Maiki 3A. There's a persistent USS there regarding the CG. When you drop in, there will be some precious gems. Deploy limpets, wait, relog, repeat. You can sell these at any black market for an average of 109k each. Take advantage of this while you can, as it will be removed by next friday.

DO NOT GO INTO OPEN.

>>148537413
Nothing is happening, ftroop is trying to distract the insane amount of legitimately butthurt players who got screwed during the last CGs when ftroop decided it was okay to cheat when the federation is losing.

>>148536312

It's only going to get worse when Thargoids come. How would you like to not only get dicked by retarded NPCs when you have no cargo, but also get pulled out of your witchspace loading screen by inbred prawns with overpowered ships?

I can't wait for them to release Thargoids and for all the butthurt to flow. The most senile dads are always explorers who say the game is fine while they jump honk repeat through space forever. It's going to be great when they get fucked by Thargoids in their shieldless, weaponless >ASP

>>148538795
>ftroop adds hyperspace for multiple ships
>ftroop adds multi-crew and fighter bays
>solofags that cry that they want to play alone will get rekt by ayys
>people that called for more player - player interaction win in this war since they are always flying in groups and at least 1 ship is always armed win this war of "muh playstyle is the ONLY right way to play this game"

>>148538795
>>148539076
This a million times. Thargoids will be the final nail on the dads' coffin. Then maybe the game will become something decent will all the carebears and crybabies gone.

>ITT: People genuinely believing that thargoids won't get nerfed 10 days after release due to dads whining

>These tip off messages

Frontier can't do anything right, can they? If they wanted to make them realistic, they should have just cut each one off at a certain part instead of going

>...they can't ... be real .... help us ...pulled from ...

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>>148535484
You cant. The game is flawed at its core. with Open/Solo/Private mechanic

The only way to fix it to remove p2p system, and divide server data. so dads wont be able to server hop.

After that, major overhaul and rebalance of all aspects of the game would be required.

Bu we all know that it wont happen.

Want some meaningfull player interaction, go play EVE if you do not mind 2 job and point and click shipa fights with macros.

Or wait in unreal illusion that Robert will deliver in SC (as me)

Now fuck off.

>>148535484
I'm planning on rigging a UA bombing ship once I unlock palin.. If the feds DO put stations in/around merope, they better hope they have meta alloys to reverse the damage.

>>148543129
>implying ftroop won't manually reverse the damages when mobius asks them

>>148542358
>P2p

It's not entirely the P2p system. It is entirely that they allow anyone to participate in events wherever they want to, solo, open, or private. Having a shit chance of actually directly intervening with those players via the P2p system sucks, but them literally hiding away from any other player interaction is infinitely worse than having to deal with bad networking.

>>148535484
>empire
fuck off to reddit

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>>148535484
>tfw feds are now the dad faction

What happened to the old faggots liking "muh progressive empire" and "muh bootyful gutamaya"? I thought old british cunts didn't like Space Trump anyways

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>>148534758
Well spoken CMDR, have some rep.

Fly safe CMDR o7 o7 o7 o7

>>148538795
Incidentally, Drew Wagar said he is flying off and as far away from the bubble as possible. He probably knows something.

I'd wager the explorers are safe.

>>148544520
Blue-haired SJW princess didn't win the race to despothood habloo hoo hoo

>>148544520
>Progressive

???

>>148547539
they fell for the anime princess meme

conservative auntie got elected and empire is back to the big bad they always were

>>148547684
Oh, right. I forgot about her anti drugs (which isn't progressive) and "slaves" stance. Just seemed odd, the empire aside from her doesn't seem progressive in any sense.

>>148547802
It's possible they also had a weak grasp on the lore

It's not like the game makes these things obvious.

>>148547985
Honestly I just assumed they were all fruitcakes from their awful ship design.

>>148544520

Which game is that from? (Obviously I know it's Star Trek, but which game?)

>>148549353
Star Trek Online, that's his character portrait when you talk to him.

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>if the player is using kb+m, gimbal mounts track with the mouse cursor ala Strike Suit Zero

Good idea or nah?

>>148533802

Well fuck you too.

>>148551405

Would be cool as a toggle. Would be even better if it came with a simple AI flight computer that would control your ship and keep the target on screen as best it could.

>This game could have been the definitive modern space sim, instead we got a shallow bland grindfest plagued with dads and faggots
What went wrong?

My biggest fear is fdev fucking up the thargoid release
>waiting for thargoids is the only reason I still play

>>148553453
They won't. Crybaby dads and carebear will make sure they get nerfed quickly though.

>>148553453

Why do you want Thargoids? They won't really add anything but another enemy to turnfight and more inconvenience as you're repeatedly pulled out of witchspace to fight them.

>>148552936
P2P instancing, no guilds, no real effect on the game world, nothing to do except grind more credits

I guess you can get into making minor faction influence bars go up and down, if you're actually autistic enough to find that compelling

>>148554230
oh, and the split between open, PG, and solo, which leaves them stuck with a bunch of people who all want completely different things from the game

they really should've gone all in on either online play or just single player

>Russian farmers won the dangerous games
>Dad and autist tears everywhere
Another good day for a shit gaem!

>>148554018
because thargoids will keep dads from trading in peace with an unarmed, unshielded dadbra mk3

Why is there no option to change that disgusting orange HUD? Who thought that it would be OK to force a color that look like crap and make shit indistinguishable?

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>>148559426

>>148559426

This is what happens when OP makes a shit topic without any of the useful links in it.

>>148533802

What is the best ship and why is it the Cobra Mk3?

Fuck the OP edition

>Where do i buy x module/weapon for my ship?
High-tech systems have the best inventory, look there. The more population the better.

>What's this RES you guys talk about?
Resource Extraction site. spawns pirates and space cops that shoot each other. HAZRES in best left until you have a Vulture or better.

>Pilots Guide:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=34437&p=664610&viewfull=1#post664610

>Steam Group (post your commander info in the announcement so we can add you)
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dangerousgeneral

>Change HUD color:
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-change-the-colour-of-your-ships-hud-in-elite-dangerous/
http://arkku.com/elite/hud_editor/

>Markets Tools:
http://eddb.io/trade/loops
http://www.elitetradingtool.co.uk/

>Ship discounts (report these as you find them)
All systems exploited by Li Yong-Rui have a discount on ships and outfits for example:
NU TAURI - Parmitano Terminal
BD+28 413 - Gunn Station

>Horizons? Engineers? What?
Horizons DLC added planetary landings, explore planets with the blue icon and gather materials for special boosts, ammunition or Engineer upgrades that modify your ship modules.
>List of Engineers & blueprints:
http://inara.cz/galaxy-blueprints
http://inara.cz/galaxy-engineers

>Test your ships before you buy:
http://www.edshipyard.com/
https://coriolis.io/

>/edg/ faction stuff from the previous thread:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rDxVVfavgiEdr9CbNS51j9wYHpXyz25H7uu7O6TeDzA/edit#gid=0

Don't you dare buy a Cobra, we'll know.
>praise the vision

Previous >>148183817

>>148560850
Thank you kind sir!
Love,

-Faggot newb

Why do i have to sell my planetary suite off my new ship if i didnt buy horizon or back the kickstarter? For what purpose!

>>148561407
Because nobody told you that you have to rebuy the whole game every year back when you backed. :^)

>25 modular terminals
anyone have some? I'll buy them if you wish

Was just going to rebuy the game every other year on discount because im retarded. I shouldnt have paid 60 bucks for this game.

spess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4d1uVvrPkY

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just a friendly reminder that you're playing the game wrong unless you grind as slowly as possible

>>148567063
Don't forget that anybody who is not flying a weaponless/shieldless sidewinder/cobra mk3 is a griefer.

>>148567063
If its not a job then why do the mechanics make it a job?

Eve is a game that literally grinds for you. It's only a job if you make it one. This is a job because every mechanic forces it to be a job.

>>148569642
Exactly. There's nothing to do in the game that doesn't revolve around grinding, in one form or another.

Star Citizen when?

So is there anywhere with a list of good metallic worlds to grind out materials?

>>148574668
did u chek ur but t

>>148567063
The greatest evidence of delusion is how he calls powerplay and engineers a grind and yet his precious core game experience isnt despite being the exact same thing.

https://twitter.com/GameRant/status/754092197608325120

This should be a proper warning for ftroop

>>148581213

How is someone getting their money refunded from a scam a warning to them?

>>148581213
Anyone who invested more in SC that the price of a preorder package needs their head examined. Sounds like reality just set in for him that $2500 is an absolutely retarded amount to spend on any piece of software.

>>148581547
Well it could be considered that ftroop has gone so far off track from their kickstarter promises for the game that its no longer the same game that was originally pitched.

>>148581908

Ftroop barely promised anything to begin with. They just said "Hey look we're remaking Elite!" and every Britbong over 40 tossed in to the Kickstarter and got the lifetime pass, along with probably buying multiple copies of the game. The only thing you can kind of say was a "promise" is the DDF but they just tossed that for people to keep people busy and keep interest for the game up. There's not much you could get them with for the game not turning out how you wanted.

>>148582205
You might be able to prove certain features are not qualitatively sufficient, piracy for example.

>>148583332

I doubt you'd get far with that because there are people that think piracy is perfectly fine. They're fucking idiots, I'll agree with you, but that wouldn't matter. They can also point to "muh 10 year plan" and say that it's a coming feature. If you bought the game on steam, there is a chance you are able to convince them that you were not aware you were buying an unfinished product and that the developers took you for a ride by saying features are in the game which have not even started development yet and that you'll have to purchase again through season passes. I feel like someone would have already tried that though, and that if they were successful, Steam would have forced the game to have an early-access tag, so I doubt you'll have any more luck. You're always free to try though, my dude.

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>forums are actually having threads mocking players who complaing about griefers in open

I've seen like 3 today, what is happening

>>148584297
coup in ftroop forums

>>148584297
Links?

>>148552936
crowdfunded by dads, made by dads, for dads

next time when you see a kickstarter remake for an 80s "classic" game you'll know to turn around 360 degrees and run as fast as you can

>mining rush
>mining rush
>mining rush

FUCK OFF

>>148584297

People realized that Dads are 10x worse than griefers because at least griefers play in open and dont get to tell FD how to make the game.

>>148582205
>The only thing you can kind of say was a "promise" is the DDF but they just tossed that for people to keep people busy and keep interest for the game up.

Nah. They never really went into detail about what the DDF actually was. So it could have been anything. (It was nothing)

They did promise a single player offline mode which is where they fucked up. But IIRC they did refund it for those who asked.

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>>148586051
But if i turn 360......you get the rest.

>>148584297
The dad brigade is thinning, so there aren't enough white knights to defend all the gates anymore.

>>148586051
>360 degrees

>>148583825
They did promise offline. Youd think the dads would kick up about that still.


Honestly....they could probly sell even more copies of the game if they stripped out multiplayer and sold an offline version. Just straight up resell the game to dads...and they would buy it.

>>148587281
>The current year
>Can no longer tell if this is bait or not

>>148584297

I think the player base is beginning to realize how dead this game is without player interaction.

>>148587556
People are starting to realize dads preach from their ivory towers of solo or private groups, and push their adgenda that is not representative of the people who just want a fun game in open, or a reason to play open at that.

>>148587556
I have the feeling the segovan lockdown debacle may have been an eye opener for many

As in they didn't know what they wanted before they saw what "emergent gameplay" could be in practice and to what lengths the goof troop goes to wall people off from it..

>>148587556

>community goals are the only thing in the game that encourages players to do something other than shoot at each other
>dads still hide in solo and have major influence over them
>Open players start locking down all the CGs
>people actually prefer the griefers over the dads

This whole thing is just fun to watch.

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>>148588346
>mfw the dads in mobius literally fly ships armed with nothing but mine launchers to exploit the shitty NPC AI and somehow 13th legion is the ones abusing the system
The group invaders deserve a literal medal just for exposing this fucking hypocrisy.

>>148588346
>Coup happens
>Elite is changed forever
>Dads cry tears
>Still holed up in solo
>Doing the same thing they've always done
>But for some reason it's different now

>>148588816
BECAUSE IT WASNT CONSENSUAL YOU FILTHY GRIEFER MILLENNIAL
I DIDNT CONSENT TO BEING UA BOMBED
GO BACK TO EVE WHERE YOU BELONG

t. commander dad

Is only 1 UA needed for a UA bomb?

>>148588816
The thing I don't get about the whole situation is that while it took place in mobius which is a "PVE" """Group"""" the result in the BGS is the same regardless of where the origin is. So what difference did it make that it happened in mobius?

>>148589739

No. You need roughly 120 of them I think. And you can have other players selling meta alloys there either.

We should make threads on the forums saying that explorers in solo need to be punished for their effortless and zero risk gameplay style.

Suggest scanning takes an hour per planet and attracts pirates due to energy emissions of their scanners.

>>148590456
Honking now attracts Thargoids

>>148590087

Mobius is the biggest private group and PVP isnt allowed. They can work together on anything unhindered. Not to mention all the dads in solo.

Normally it isnt an issue, but on the Dangerous Game, an event where Solo/Private players have an insane advantage, it's causing some issues.

>>148590582
I get that but what difference does UA bombing make in mobius as opposed to a bunch of independents doing it in solo or organizing in open?
It's not like mobius group could pull CG grinders into their server and kill them.

I guess what I'm asking is, you pull the power cord on a TV, what difference does it make whether the outlet was behind the TV or behind the stereo system? It seems like it's a distinguishing factor purely for punitive reasons that emergent gameplay didn't mesh with the dads sensibilities.

>>148590925

Well when a station gets UA bombed, or a system gets locked down, it doesnt work for anyone, not solo, private, console, or PC.

That's why they made the systems go into lockdown, it was the only wat to hurt private groups that were undermining them in the CGs.

>>148584297
the lost tons of dads by making the AI harder

>>148591251
Yeah still I get that.
But what difference did it make where the UA bombing came from?

>>148591347

It all had to do with the Dangerous Games. Imperial players shut down critical stations because they didnt like the private/solo players outdoing them unhindered.

The dads complained on the forums about it, and FD manually reversed the effects. This is especially where people got pissed off. FD is favoring private players over Open in a multiplayer game. People are realizing the hypocrisy of the forumdads that talk down to people while never encountering another player and being reclusive as fuck in an online game that's supposed to be an MMO.

>>148591864
Oh wait so I had it backwards and mobius was crying about players in open UA bombing them?

Somehow this situation is even more retarded than I gave it credit for.

>>148592059

Check out the previous /edg/ thread (archive). All of the info is linked in there.

And yes it actually is the opposite of what usually happens. People did something to fight back against Private in the CG and the forumdads got butthurt. And FD actually helped them which is really hypocritial when they constantly tell people that "there's nothing we can do about 'griefing'" and "muh emergent gameplay."

So lads, who's your favorite power play leader from a purely lore/RP perspective?
It's a close tie between space Trump and space chinaman for me
Hardmode: No space waifu for waifu reason
>implying there's lore/RP

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*Chuckles in the background*

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>>148592458

Heretics of the VISION

>>148593167

>FD could remove Solo and the VISION will remain

Theres not many medium ships are there? I basically have a choice between fdl, python and dropship variants ?

I'm switching over to fixed combat, NPCs with infinite chaff is absolute bullshit.

Given that, railguns or plasma accelerators? What are the pros and cons of each?

>>148593373
>ASP

Medium is an odd ship size because it's limited more by height than length/width.

See the type7. It should be medium, but it's too tall so it has to go on large pads.

what is this VISION meme?

>>148593373
Asps and the type 6/keelback as well but yeah pretty much not a lot of choice for medium ships

>>148593561

It's for Orca owners, who hope that someday their ships will be useful.

>>148593914

>passenger missions are going to suck an there's nothing we can do to change it

>>148593518
>>148593596
Yeah was looking more for combat. Im disappointed in the fdls cockpit and jump range....everything else is great. Pythons slow and i just got a fas so i cant comment yet. Cockpits better but i cant help but think the ass is fat

>>148594440
>not flying the almighty courier

>>148594440
FAS is great, probably my favorite ship after the aspie

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/274214-I-thought-this-was-supposed-to-be-a-unique-aspect-of-Elite

>players cant trade materials

>>148596298
MUH CHINESE GOLD SELLERS

>>148597545
>implying gold sellers would touch this game with a ten foot pole

I'm pretty sure a game needs to have players in order to make it worth the gold sellers' while.

>>148594516
Courier is great. Dat cockpit....decent dakka....good range...small. Quite a bit internals too.

Now youre making me wanna fly that again.

>browsing 4chan while mining in my Python

I am one with the comfy.

>>148598624
It needs to be an MMO too.

>>148597545

>implying someone doesnt deserve IRL cash for prospecting rare materials in this RNG shitshow

Why do people hate the feds so much?

>>148598624

That won't stop dads from bring "gold selling" up because they've never played any other kind of MMO before other than maybe a trial of EVE, after which they cried because they got scammed in Jita and then gotten their shitfit battlecruiser fucked within seconds.

Try bringing up player groups or system/group chat and it'll have about the same effect. Muh gold selling, muh exploits, muh grieffing, muh scams.

>>148598925

Empire is meta.
The forumdads seem to like the Federation now. I say "now" because I swear that they were all over the Empire like 2 months ago.

>>148598925
It's a meme founded on the obvious implication that Ftroop is favoring them in the current story line and throwing all talk of emergent gameplay out the window to ensure they're favored to win.

>>148598954
I'm torn between pressing these issues on the forum and just saying fuck it, accepting that this game will never be what it could have been, and going back to waiting for Star Citizen.

>>148599340
It's mostly out of our hands, we can offer support to the people calling frontier out with clear reasoned arguments while the dads gobble braben's cock.

>>148595843

The old days of space ira. Good times

Using any ship fitted with any modules and upgrades, what is the absolute maximum jump range someone can reach?

>>148600545

I think 49 LY is the max, without injection.

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Reminder that you are all entitled millennials.

>>148598925
I love Fed. And fed ships. I never go on the forum or follow dad drama, though.

Wish Imps would come out with something that didn't resemble a yacht or a private jet.

Also wish they'd give me muh Mamba already.

>>148599045
There's a story in this game?

>>148600627
Bah, lame. I was hoping with all this new engineer stuff you could tune an explorer to jump crazy far distances.

>>148600923
Why does shit like this make my blood boil so much?

>>148600923
>>148601210

Because this is a faggot who doesn't understand how a transaction works.

>>148601210
I think the guy was being ironic.
The sad part is ironic or not it's every bit as damaging because the dads won't detect the irony as this is literally what they believe.

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>>148600923

>Ship: Python

YOU DONT DESERVE HER YOU SON OF A BITCH

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>>148600923
Man, what kind of person doesn't want to see a game they apparently "love" fleshed out and improved? Why would you not want the universe to have more depth, complexity, immersion, and fun?

If you aren't allowing it to grow, you're smothering the life out of it by trying to "protect" it from change.

It's just so god damned depressing to read shit like this.

>>148600942
Wish empire had a medium ship.

>>148598691
Elite should be a VR OS and not a game because it isn't one

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>>148599972

>>148600923
>>148601210
It's not real, it's me shitposting on the forums. I gave up fighting them and are trying to push them into the further depths to see just how deep their delusion can go.

>>148603780
Prove it. Make a post using the words "paradigm shift" in a sentence.

>>148603594
dads fly sidewinders?
I thought they only flew Cobras and asps

>>148605297
Most dads have upgraded to a python by this point.

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>>148605369
Speaking of Pythons, what the hell can you even do with this thing? I traded for like, a couple of hours and only made 1.5 mil or so, and most of those hours were spent watching youtube because I was fucking bored out of my skull, the thing doesn't jump far enough for Robigo running, you can't make fucking money pirating, I don't have the money to spend on powerplay, mining seems absolutely fucking dull, bounty hunting doesn't pay shit anymore and most things can outturn me anyways. I spent all this money on it, and it's fucking cool, but what the fuck do I DO with it?

>>148606054
it is a multipurpose ship

you are unable to do anything with great efficacy because it is incapable of real specialization, being such a generalist hull.

if you're too stupid to do sothis, go to gandui and fucking trade between that system and lao zi or some shit. 16.05 light years and the markets will never dry on you

>dads on el reddito praising a rank grinding method that apparently took 20 hours to get from 0 rank to knight with the empire
There's no hope for these people

>>148606054
Nothing. Honestly. They used to be #1 fighting ship, they needed the fuck out of it, now it's a multirole with ships that can do everything it can do but cheaper.

Sure does look cool, though.

>>148606441
needed = nerfed*

>>148606373
Sothis makes me no money. Theoretically I can do a 2500 PPU cargo run in the python, with 208 cargo spaces, for ~500k in about 10m, so 3m an hour. It takes me about an hour and a half to do a Sothis run and I only get about that from it, and it takes me about an hour to do a Robigo run and I get 12-20m from that.

>>148606616
i am making around 80 million per hour in a cutter up there

if you're choosy about which missions you take; and i'm not familiar with the cargo available to a python with a scoop and shit necessary; you can make easily 25mil/h with just a couple hundred tonnes. it's important to have rank with the factions though, and i was able to get allied with Federation Unite! in about a half hour just running between sothis and ceos with data in a cobra before i got out my BBC (Big Black Cutter)

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>>148606767
I ain't taking a Python out of the bubble, and I'm already allied with CDE Corp. I just CBA to go grab the Aspie and grind the rank for Sothis and Ceos, at least you make a bit of money and get a bit of Fed rank for dat FAS though.

Iunno the thing's just not fun to fly. And I think it's because it can't back up its presence. It's a big motherfucking ship that looks like it means business, but there's nothing in the game worth bringing such a mean ship to do; long range smuggling makes the most money and the AspE is the best thing for that until the Conda; any fight I have any business being in can be won with a DBS, or a Vulture if I want to play it safe. Fuck, the shit the Python's good for just isn't in the fucking game.

>>148607197
>Fuck, the shit the Python's good for just isn't in the fucking game.

Exactly. That is precisely the issue. Sell it and get whatever other ship you want, and buy it back later when whatever update finally comes out that gives it a purpose. The same issue the FGS has.

>>148606405
What's the fastest way?

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>>148607864
YOU'RE GONNA SUCK THIS COCK

>>148607787
The fastest way is still donations, but unfortunately there's not really anywhere good for that right now for emp or feds
And by fastest I'm mean it will still probably take a few days of board refreshing rather than literal weeks if not moths of grinding

>>148608108
FALSE VISION REEEEEE

>>148608108
>yet another ripped off mod as DLC

Your normie audience is gonna wise up to your laziness if you keep this up, Todd.

>>148608059
Is there a best if not optimal place for it? And roughly how many creds would it take?

>>148608545
Gee, Todd, you sure it's original? It sure looks an awful lot like a mod an autist made in his mom's basement.

>>148608508
17 draconis is the only place that still works for the feds, but it's in a civil war right now so the amount of donation missions had dropped a lot. As for the empire I don't know
From no rank at all to rear admiral it would probably take 250mil worth of donations, half that amount if you only do the smaller donations missions. Seeing as the amount donated doesn't affect the amount of rank gained only taking small amount missions is the smarter choice of you have the patience for it
Also remember to only do missions for factions aligned with the superpower you're looking to gain rank with

>>148609031
Ah, just meant empire. I always go Fed for missions so I'm way up there now. Thanks anyways.

>>148606054
It's the best multipurpose ship in the game, fact.

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>>148609198
I know that most modders put more effort into their tiny creations than you put into the entirety of FO4.

>>148609469
The problem is there's no purpose for multirole at the moment. You can buy and kit ships to fit all roles a python fills for less than a single kitted python, and they'd perform better than it in their roles.

>>148606054
>the thing doesn't jump far enough for Robigo running

Wimp.

>>148609689
>The problem is there's no purpose for multirole at the moment.
Meme statement. The purpose is going wherever you want and doing whatever you want.

>there are cheaper ships
Irrelevant.

>and they'd perform better than it in their roles
>role specific ships are better at that one thing than a multipurpose ship
No shit? FAS may be a better combat ship but fuck me if I'm travelling in it anywhere.

>>148609151
I had a quick look and from what I can tell donation grinding is dead for the empire
Apparently HIP 10716 to Wu Guinagi data deliveries is currently the fastest way to rank with the empire. The post I found said it took 10 hours doing that to get from baron to duke
The upside to that is you'll make money instead of losing it

>>148609863
Also, non issue since engineers.

>>148609983
Hey, I put a 4B scoop on my FAS and went all over the place. FAS dindu nuffin.

>>148607197
it's for missions

>>148610014
I'll probably just stack skimmer missions if possible, then. They always treat me good.

>>148610118
>loading screen simulator 2016
Also, it's ugly as hell.

>>148610423
Dirty Gutamaya fag detected

>>148610423
>ugly
I'm sorry you have bad taste.

>>148610557
>>148610576
Not a gutamaya fag, but I still don't get how you faggots so plebified that you like that bastardization of dropships aesthetic.

Drink bleach.

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Anyone out in the Formadine Rift trying to find Ayylmaos? I'm there now just because I heard it being talked up recently, but mainly to get enough exploration data to rank up the FSD bitch. Grinding mod mats to rank her up was straight up killing me so I decided to give exploring a shot. Finally found my first earth-like in here too. Now I'm freaking out because someone else might turn it in first.

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>when you fucking loaded and successful completion of all missions will generate nothing short of 82,437,170cr

what the fuck

>>148610934
>look at me i'm making so much meaningless monopoly money

>>148607197

The Python is for space trucking and mining. If you want to smuggle, buy an Orca.

https://coriolis.io/outfit/orca/2pftkFflsdnsif40v27270002030405044a38f402012f.Iw18SQ==.EwBj5BGZktSgsQ==

>>148611431
>12ly jump range
>100 ton cargo
This Orca meme is shit.

>>148610985
>t. Dad

>>148611869

>implying 100 cargo isnt enough for smuggling
>implying 12ly jump isnt enough
>ignoring the god tier boost
>implying the Orca isnt unstoppable at smuggling

>>148612126
>literally grinding like plantation nigger for numbers
>hurr ur dad
This meme lost all meaning.

>>148612320
>implying 100 cargo isnt enough for smuggling
It's enough only if you RP as Han Solo.

>implying 12ly jump isnt enough
That's simply terrible. How fucking retarded are you to think it's ok?

>ignoring the god tier boost
Useless.

>>148612417
t.dad mad someone can make his life earnings in the span of minutes

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>>148612675
>u d-dad
>look how big of a grinding vegetable i am

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guys stop sniping at each other over whose gay autistic internet space ship is better, there's bigger dads to fry

>>148561932

I've got 3 on me if you want to come to the Great Annihilator system.

>>148613059
What are you trying to imply here?

He's 100% right. Multiplayer in ED is total garbage. There's no sense in playing in open. None.

It's either people grinding in silence indistinguishable from NPCs or ebin furfag gank squads. That's the amount of mp interaction you get from this shit game.

>>148612598

>not RPing as Han Solo

I dont understand the appeal of sitting at the station and stacking missions in a huge cargo hold. If you already have an Anaconda or Cutter, why even bother doing these runs?

And 12LY really is usable. I've done Robigo runs in a Python. If you use the default fuel tank and a size 5 fuel scoop you pretty much never have to stop. I've outran Asp fags back to the bubble because they're busy refilling their 64 ton fuel tank with a 3A fuel scoop.

>>148612797
>t. dad
BLAZE YOUR OWN TRAIL
FLY SAFE CMDR o7

>>148613059

>Open is for shooting

I hate this meme. ANARCHY systems are for shooting.

>>148613532
I don't understand the appeal of RPing in such a bland and empty game.

If you want to play pretend smuggler just join Freelancer: Discovery. Smuggling mechanics are much more solid there.

>And 12LY really is usable.
That depends on how much of a boring braindead grinder you are.

>>148613532
because i want an jumpconda and killvette

the two together will run me nearly a billion credits if not more and i ain't selling my fdl to have all three of the big ones

>>148613607
It is. What else can you do with a random fuck out there? Start your own buisness venture?

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>>148613705
>That depends on how much of a boring braindead grinder you are.

WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE

>>148613059
>I'm intolerant towards intolerance

In all my years of playing online games I've never played a game with such insufferable faggots as this.

>>148614072
>grinding apologetics
Where? In North Korea?

>>148614115
Why with all those years of online play experience you chose to play the worst online game ever?

>>148614275
Because you touch yourself

>>148613514
I'm implying that this faggot is implying that all PvPers are griefing psychopaths, when most of the PvP community in this game consisted of various player groups skirmishing with each other in wing battles and at CGs. I have had tons of fun with the MP aspects of this game, as unreliable as they are.

Well, until 2.1 killed PvP, that is.

>>148594440
>Cockpits better but i cant help but think the ass is fat

You say that like it's a bad thing.

I've just about mastered clubbing other ships with the ass end of my FAS during the pass when they try to evade being rammed.

Slicing the other ship with one of my winglets does ridiculous damage to them. For some reason it does even more than a solid head-on at full speed.

>>148600942
>Wish Imps would come out with something that didn't resemble a yacht or a private jet.

The Clipper was beast in combat for most of the first year. Moreso after the Python nerf and then less so after small and med ships with more shields than god.

>>148613059
Meanwhile
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/274124-Open-is-BRUTAL

Someone should report him for blatant group shilling

>>148609689
>The problem is there's no purpose for multirole at the moment.

"Multirole" ships are for trading and in a few cases exploring. That is their purpose.

"Trade" ships are straight-up useless, hence why multiroles are the real traders.

>>148614934
this desu
The only traders you spend any time in are the type 6 and type 9. Type 6 is replaced by the asp, type 9 by the anaconda. Type7 can be ignored for the iClipper.

>>148613607
>>148613802

The only options this game provides for interacting with anything are ignore or lasers.

>>148615048
Even those stopped being part of progression with the advent of smugglebux, since you can directly go Cobra->Asp->Anaconda and bypass them entirely.

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>>148615192
>he doesn't tell everyone he sees alone to fly safe
>lest they meet my hungry fdl later on

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>>148615559
>meet a hungry FDL
>end process

>>148615764
>Have a nightmare
>Hungry FDL
>Holds me down
>Can't get away
>He deploys his huge hardpoint
>Inseminates my boipussy

>>148615764
you'd be surprised how few dads can execute a logoffski maneuver effectively.

>>148615838

Huge cannon has lewdest deploy animation.

>>148615873
You mean saleshitters? Because dads are either playing private/solo or already have a macro set up.

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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/273896-So-funny-*yawn*

which one of you glorious bastards did this?

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>>148615838
>you will never be a timid little cobra that gets offered assistance in bounty hunting by a big, burly fdl
>you will never see your shield indicators flash as he gets nice and close to you, hardpoints deployed, and informs you that he wants more from you than just his cut of the bounties

>Hand over your cargo
>I'm carrying only limpets
This is so fucking retarded

>>148616909
Most likely the same furfag legion that got butthurt when ftroop reverted the Segovan lockdown.

>>148617097
>Hand over your cargo.
>I don't even have cargo space in my ship to begin with
Talking about retarded...

>>148616909
>That "I'm not mad but I'm so mad" response
>Literally everyone calling him out for caring so much
Wonderful

>>148618321
Pssst... he's talking about your feces.

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Don't you die on me yet.

Why is imperial cutter's ass so amazing?

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I haven't played the game since January.

Any big changes happened?
Was this engineer shit released?
Is it interesting in any way or does it just add more grinding?

In that case, is afk turetting with CE still safe to use? That was the most fun I had with the game in months.

>>148621910
>Any big changes happened?
No other than Ftroop fucking up emergent gameplay and pepole are starting to get wise to their shit.

>Was this engineer shit released?
Waste of time shit

>Is it interesting in any way or does it just add more grinding?

Literally grind for a chance to play a roulette game to have your grinding mean something, then grind more.

Pretty much only the diehard dads are still completely in Ftroop's corner. Everyone with half a brain is getting fed up to various degrees.

>>148622035
>>148621910
Also they destroyed turreting, to such a retarded degree that CZ grinding any zone with a capship is a waste of time because they'll steal half your kills.

AI got a buff then a nerf, but it uses engineer modules and pinpoint snipes your modules with rail guns.

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What adventures will await you today?

>>148622457
Blazing my own trail CMDR
Fly safe o7

>>148601159

I know you can get an Anaconda to nearly 40 LYR jump range without engineering. Add 44% since thats the max boost you can get on an FSD mod plus modding the other ship components to reduce mass and you could hit 60 LYR jump range without injection.

120 LYR with injection. Granted your ship cant do jack ship except jump, but thats the max. I've seen posts about the low 110s with Injection.

>>148622753
Do injections burn up more fuel or do they just burn the mats?

>>148622457
Getting back to the bubble from a 20000ly trip trying to stay alive because I have no weapons nor shields on my exploration kited cobra mk3

>>148623546

The mats from what I understand. Actually haven't used it much.

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>>148624109

fug thats insane. o7 o7 o7

eksploration spirit commander!

>>148624109
Father, a lot has happened since you left.
The Empire invaded and took over our home. Mother took in an empire captain named Jamal. I am expecting a baby brother any day now. Your wife's son will surely be eager to meet you.

I think it's cute how you guys hate this game but keep playing it.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/268667-UAs-Barnacles-amp-other-mysteries-Thread-7-The-Canonn?p=4237617&viewfull=1#post4237617
>>148625610
there are bits and pieces that still cling to you and make you play the game
like an alien parasite

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>under high load
I somehow seriously doubt that

>>148614072
Speaking of the wheel, is it impossible to stop on blue by clicking? Every time it's on blue and I click it moves it back to the red before it. Once I fucked up and it went one further back into red before I clicked, and it still moved it back to the red before the blue when I clicked.

>>148621910
>Was this engineer shit released?
>Is it interesting in any way or does it just add more grinding?
It only adds more grinding.

Like, astronomical levels of grinding.

>>148626607
they've scaled back the AWS

>>148617097
>>148618321
>hand over your cargo
>cobra mark III with no shield
>saying this to a FAS loaded with multicanons

God damn it, suicidal AI, just fly into a planet instead of bothering me.

>>148631149
I would be completely fine with it if they gave us a garage space to store old modules and allowed us to "lock in" really good roulette rolls until we chose to reroll on our own.

As it stands, it feels more like you're being punished for playing rather than rewarded.

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so i bought this game finished some of the tutorials
and have a slight idea how to fly.

so i start a new game in open world and sit in my ship and have no idea what to do first.

when i got this right there is no main quest no story so i should make my own story am i right.

but what are some good things to do in the first 20 minutes i like to go full rogue but that shouldn't be an option right of the start

what to do ?

>>148632952
1. Steal kills from cops in RES with your shitty sidewinder until you can buy a cobra mk3 with a A-grade FSD.
2. Go to sothis/ceos and grind rep until 5m+ missions start spawning.
3. Grind those missions while getting a bigger and bigger ship so you can stack more and more.
4. Welcome to ED

>>148632952
if you don't have any friends, do this >>148633139
if you do, and you play together then do this >>148633139
Fdev gave us all the freedom to do anything with taking anything interesting to do from us at the same time

>>148633139
when is choose to be a huge spacedick will stations deny landing or won't trader sell me stuff ?

>>148633301
You get fines and bounties, station might refuse to let you dock if you really have a bad rep with the controlling faction, but otherwise it's piss easy to fool the authorities and boost into a station without getting scanned while having a bounty.

Depending on the bounty you can high-wake to have it converted into a fine. If the bounty is too high I believe the only way to get rid of it is to get destroyed, so just buy a throwaway sidewinder and boost into a station walls if it ever happens.

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Anyone else watching the Lavecon live stream? All the questions asked to the devs so far have been absolute cancer.

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>>148633139
>>148633289
>>148633301
>>148633581

well then i will start my journey

>>148633607
i'm watching star wars celebration, lavecon streamed on frontiers youtube ?

>>148633607
>Lavecon
instant secondhand cringe desu

>>148633748
watching it on twitch right now, but it looks like its finishing up.

>>148632952
Get a refund youll thank us later

>>148617097

>hand over your cargo
>carrying literal shit
>eject it
>SO YOU CHOOSE DEATH THEN

>>148644754

Pirates are entitled milennial shit heads CMDR o7

>tfw flight controller is ultra friendly
>missions all offering rare mats

This station is legit.

>>148644754
Here's how fucked the game is.
The pirates are detecting your crafting mats and data as cargo.

>>148645804

I thought they just had a boner for the enjo commodities.

>get interdicted by a pirate
>he has no weapons

I'm not making this up. He didnt fire a single shot the entire time.

>>148646727
happened to me a few times. Every time it was a "clean" pirate

>>148648169

>clean pirate

Doesnt interdicting give you a bounty?

>>148650937
not for npcs since they technically don't interdict you. the one in supercruise and the one that drops in normalspace are two different entities

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>>148651707
>the one in supercruise and the one that drops in normalspace are two different entities

are you fucking kidding me with this shit fdev

Thread fading in to the void...

>>148653070

Nope. There is zero persistence.

Even when you have an NPC with the same name chasing you all over it gets respawned from scratch every time you see it.

>>148650937
No it gives you a fine.

>>148612320
Ok fine cumlord. My fully battle kitted fucking python has 208t cargo and 14ly fully loaded.

>>148661806

>responding to a 14 hour old post

We get it. The thread is dying.

>>148534758
Sauce?
Google is giving me cartoon network.

Also when can we scan planets to find materials?

>>148662919
FD is holding that update until Fighters.

>>148559426

What is google?

How many mines can an instance support at one time?

>>148613705

Freelancer is just a better game overall.

I only come to these threads to see what has been updated.

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JACOB

WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY MISSIONS JACOB

>>148661806
>"battle" anything
>100t cargo

even my conda has only 80t

http://spaceflightnow.com/live/

spess

>>148538509

Where do you sell them? A station in the nearby system was only buying for 12k per

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>>148667837
Iunno 's got guns, what else does it need? SCBs are for scrubs.

>>148669292
>no SCBs

3 large beams can melt your shields in 2.5 seconds.

>>148669456
Not if they can't hit me.

>>148669743
the only thing you can hope to outmaneuver and/or outrun is a conda

>>148669850
Iunno the thing outturns Cobras.

>>148670019
>outmaneuver and/or outrun

>>148670140
Ok fine, the thing outmaneuvers cobras. Excuse me

>>148670252
not something to be proud of desu senpai

>>148670385
I know, but it's a small ship that sets a good example of its maneuverability. Many things can outturn a python but not a lot can outturn and outgun it. Its biggest threats are getting into a slugging match with something bigger than it, like a Conda, or getting a Vulture/FAS to humiliate it in a dogfight.

SCBs are for staying power.

>>148670583
yeah, im thinking PVP like

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>>148671090
Oh hell fucking no would I take it PVPing without stripping the cargo bays.

I am a newb who starts with a cobra. What ship/gear should I buy after I sell it to start making real coin?

>>148676245

If it's a MkIII it's already an ideal starter ship for making dosh.

>>148677309
It is. I was a KSer but ignored the game. Thinking of getting into it. Though it would be better to get a cheaper ship and fill it with better gear though.

>>148538509
>>148667971
Forums reckon 20k-80k depending on the black market.

Any tips for snatching a UA?

>>148679135
What kind of funds are you working with atm? Outfitting a Cobra for Sothis/Robigo runs takes around 3mil.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NBagFF6jjo

>>148679508
Whatever you start with. Guessing I will have to grind 3mil first then.

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>>148679508
You usually start with the Sidewinder, small little ship, looks like pic related.

Cobra's more expensive stock, like ~350k

>>148680827
meant for
>>148680449
obvs, but yeah. For now, take whatever pretty close smuggling missions you can in the Sidey, you should be able to make enough for a stock Viper or Cobra, I'd say go to a Resource Extraction Site, usually in high metal content planetary rings, and go killsteal from cops in the area until you get the ~3m for a Robigo fitted Cobra, which is D rated pretty much everything except Frame Shift Drive, as little shielding and weapons as you're comfortable with, and cargo bays for the rest of it.

>>148681069
>3m for a Robigo fitted Cobra
Here's one for 2mil
https://coriolis.io/outfit/cobra_mk_iii/0p3tdFaldd8sdf4----02-030334010101.Iw1-kA==.Aw1-kA==

>>148681245
That'll work too, just don't scrape when you boost into the station.

But yeah, 3m is the high end.

Dont die!

Alt tabbing out of the game while I slowly crawl my way to a station 150k LS away. Atleast I can play EVE at the same time and keep tabs on my market orders.

Space sure is big, huh fellas? o7

>>148687476
space is larger than you will ever be capable of meaningfully perceiving or comprehending.

be grateful they advanced the lore for the supercruise function. it's stated that voyages prior took days and weeks if not months

>>148687917

I wish they went back to that. I would be way more immersed in the game if I had to spend actual weeks traveling between stations.

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>>148688173
CONDITION RED

>>148679965

Any idea how the file was pulled from the game?

>>148679965

2Spooby3.5me

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>>148679965
i'm not saying that's fucking thargoids or anything

but that's the fucking noise of a thargoid witchspace interdiction.

>>148681069
So you think I should sell cobra, buy a sw to grind out the 2-3 mil needed? Or did you not read the part where I said I start with a CMk3?

>>148690275
Most everyone starts with a shitwinder.....easy to miss

Keep the cobra....killsteal at a nav beacon or mettalic ring (high) upgrade your ship then go do sothis

>>148690275
Oh, you do start with a Cobra? Cool. I honestly thought you were getting them mixed up, they're built by the same manufacturer and look vaguely similar.

Nah cobra's fine. Do bubble smuggling in it until you get enough for the 2-3mil to get it Robigo fitted.

>>148690632
I think he's got it because he was a kikestarter backer

>>148664845
I DUNNO WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING

>>148538509
I'm here, what am I looking for? Did I get meme'd?

>>148694446

Look for a USS around maiki 3 a. It may be several ls out from the planet, but its the only USS that you can't identify

>>148694715
Thank you, based anon!

Came back to this game, havent played since february, anything i should know? Did they fixed missons or is it the same 2% for killing 20 civilian ships?

>>148695364
Missions are alright now, once you get allied with the minor faction.

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>>148538795
>>148539076
>>148539259
>main segemt of thargoids turn out to be peaceful, and helpful, and kind, in order to appease forumdads
>"bad" ones no more threat than competent pirate at best
>entire new swath of populated space filled with happy thargoids and their funky stations
>multi-crew "balanced" by AI crew that get bonus shields/hull to compensate for AI stupidity

How else would they add a new faction and ship set for dads to spend half a year grinding through?

>>148695442
How much % do they give on average?

>>148695442

Not him but I have no idea if I'm doing something wrong but I've been doing missions for a minor faction for what feels like days and I'm still only halfway through friendly. Is it supposed to take this long?

>>148696045

>multi-crew "balanced" by AI crew that get bonus shields/hull to compensate for AI stupidity

They have already confirmed multicrew will be player only. No AI crew.

>>148690617
Are there actually cases of people starting in something better than a sidewinder?

>>148696057
As far as rank? Depends on what you are now. If you want fed rank grind delivery missions at sothis/ceos, I forget the empire one

>>148696380
Yeah, until dads scream and cry and piss themselves about it on the forums, like always.

>>148696403
Im grinding imperial for the sexy ships, serf 28%

>>148696669
HIP 10716 to Wu Guinagi data deliveries are curently the best way to grind empire rank fyi

>>148679443

Know of any good places to sell them. I flew 175LY out to LTT 9455 thinking the price goes up with distance but they only sell for 60k there. Onyaks, only 100LY away, were buying them for just as much.

>>148696559

It's not like multicrew won't be dead on arrival regardless anyways. Want to sit on my Corvette turret while I fly around a RES, anon? I'm willing to bet it'll still have the stupid bounty splitting too.

Ship launch fighters is the only thing looking somewhat promising this entire season, and that's fucking sad.

>>148696669
Back in my day you progressed through the first several ranks with just a few missions
fuck the VISION

>>148697459
Yeah
I remember reading a week ago or something that it takes around 2500 missions to reach duke/rear admiral from zero rank now
Even for a no life NEET that's fucking stupidly high

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>>148697459
>tfw cubeo'd hard for dat dook long ago now

the cutter was well worth it

don't know if i can say that with present effort required in mind, though. good thing i maxed out federal rank in 17 draconis for only several million, too.

i wish it looked a little closer to the concepts.

>>148697772

No way that can be right. Assuming that each mission takes 5 minutes to finish, which is a ridiculously generous estimate, it would take somewhere roundabouts 8 full days of nothing but back to back mission running to get to that point.

>>148698402
I thought so too but from my attempts to grind fed rank it's starting to look true

>>148698402
Well on my Count to Duke grind in wu guinagi each load of courier missions raised my rank by about 10% on average.
That's 22 missions for 10%, so 220 missions per rank. The boost was also lower between marquis and duke than it was from count.