/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

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>>148413628

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i'm sure it's in the collage already, but if it's not, here

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>>148407783
ok

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>>148413449
wouldn't this be the actual #500 since the last two threads were made before the bump limit making them half threads?

>>148414252
They were made after image bump, and a sonic thread without images is... well, pointless

>>148414290
not historically

>>148414252
Amy has literally never been to chemical plant

>>148414396
Good, it sucks there and there's this really annoying underwater section if you take the lower route

>>148414396
Neither did Metal Sonic but he's just there.

Where can I find the origins stories that aren't on Scanf? they only have 4 of them for some reason.

>>148414290
It's a surprise considering the threads before the last two have had their bump limit reached before the image limit.

>>148414639
>It's a surprise considering the threads before the last two have had their bump limit reached before the image limit.
Based on how art-cebtric the celebratory period of 500 is, I'm not surprised this happened. Ithink may even happen to this thread.

>>148414639
It was only 65 posts short.

It's not like we missed a significant portion of the thread

>>148414786
That and the flood of Amy and Blaze images.

>>148415019
>It was only 65 posts short.
Usually anons want to stay until the bump limit is reached but I'm not one of those anons so it doesn't really matter to me.

>>148414602
You can check VK's Archie Sonic albums. They should be there.

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Rouge seems awfully eager to be alone with Amy...

>>148415725
actually that was my bad.

I didn't realize Sally & Rotor's origins were in the Free Comic Book Day section instead of the super digest.

They don't have FCBD #2015 though which is supposed to have Silver's Origin story/prequel to Worlds Unite. Would that be on VK?

what's VK?

>>148415962
only because she thinks amy is 6 years old

is black knight worth $10

>>148415983
The only origin story I can recall that isn't on Scanf is Razor's, in SSD #15, which is in the Albums section on VK (just search for "VK Sonic Archie).

I think FCBD '15 is on Tails Kicks Ass. Hope that helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-GioK-eF9g

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I think this'll be my #500 pic even though it's SUPER late. I wanted to draw all those fearsome girls showing off their power instead of a pinup.
Rouge's boots are weirdly difficult.

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>>148416679
Yes and No

It's complicated.

>>148416343
Kinda.

>>148416343
I wouldn't pay more for it than that.

Fucking Game Grumps dude.

>>148417230
And Sonic in a skirt, apparently.

>>148417469
or just baggy pants

>>148417230
>>148416890
>Amy's fucking face

It gets funnier and funnier the longer I look at it.

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>>148419520
It's the middle of the night, it'll probably be a few bumps needed.

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>Bill Freiberger, one of Sonic Boom’s head writers/producers, recently attended a fan convention and provided fans with the following information about season 2:

>Multi-part episodes

>Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley slated to write episodes for the show

>New characters

>More character models

>New locations

https://youtu.be/DV2ghUUACME

>Bill Freiberger, one of Sonic Boom’s head writers/producers, recently attended a fan convention and provided fans with the following information about season 2:

Multi-part episodes
Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley slated to write episodes for the show
New characters
More character models
New locations

>>148420883

>New characters
>More character models
Hoping for some QTs
>New locations
Also good, they didn't have a lot for the first season.

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>>148416890
A shame the World War Blue Manga stopped being localized.

>>148420883
>>148421002
>Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley slated to write episodes for the show
Senpaitachi if you're reading this, don't mess it up.

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>>148421002
>7 hour long youtube video

>>148421459
If you're looking for where Bill said that it's around 5 hr mark. 4chan can't time-stamp blah blah.

>>148416591
>dat confident Rouge
>dat crazed Amy
>dat matter-of-factly Blaze
You're good at this. Consider coloring.

>>148422367
No, and neither is his best friend Ken-sama, leave them alone.

>>148416591
Love it. Love everything about it.

Still want those pinups though.

>>148421002

>Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley slated to write episodes for the show
>Flynn getting respect outside of the comics

Holy fuck, is this the start of something?

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>>148422525
It's a Ker-Smash Ker-Crash Ker-Bash episode.

Quick, post your favorite Evan Stanley Off-panels.

>>148413863
Fuckin nice

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>>148422682
i only read one of the comics ever and it was when I was like 11

>>148424028
The footfaggiest.

>>148424028
Were you hoping for blobs, three toes, four toes, or five toes?

>>148424336
I actually wanted to know which one of these it was.

>>148424440
Three toe master race.

>>148424625
>hat happened to that?
Boom

>>148424625
Main series switched gameplay styles again and it sucked. Boom came out and was terrible.

>>148421002
>Multi-part episodes
Please no.
>Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley slated to write episodes for the show
The first season didn't need them to be enjoyable.
>New characters
Proceed with caution.
>More character models
More extras is good I guess.
>New locations
Good.

>>148424625
>What happened to that?
Sega tried to turn him into Mario, not even the right kinf od Mario, then they turned him into /co/.

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>>148424028
blobs

>>148424028
yes

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>>148427191
Y/N

>>148427389
Hedgehogs have 3 toes though.

>>148427271
DELETE
THIS

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>>148427271

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>>148427418
no... that's not true!
Shut up! It's easier to draw just three!

>>148427553
Does it matter? when do they have their shoes off even.

Still, I think the idea of their feeties being animalistic is better as it shows more of a difference between Sonic's World Peopleian. Not even a footfag.

Sorry. I just wanted to commune.

>>148427494
thanks anon I've been looking for this.

First bumb of the day

Seeing how we got Hyrule Warriors (from the Dynasty/Samurai/Orochi/Whatever Warriors series), what would you guys think of Sonic Warriors?

>>148428826
spin to win

>>148428826
no thanks, if I want a boring cut and paste job over shitty framework I'll play Sonic Runners

>>148413863
Where is he taking them?

>>148428826
Only if I can play as Eggman.

And Madonna

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>>148429138
> I'll play Sonic Runners

I have bad news for you anon...

>>148429252
Bed

Morning anons

>>148430537
that's what they want you to think

>>148430537
Mornin'

>>148428826
I can't see that working well with Sonic specifically.

>>148428826
Spindashing through hordes of badniks would be fun. Shame that warriors game are boring as shit grindfests. If it comes to dull easy to make games, sonic really is better suited to endless runners. At least they enable fast.

A tower defence game where you play as eggman would be better than a warriors game. And I HATE those. Evil Genius as eggman would be better.

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Couldn't make the 500 thread celebration.
So I just scribbled this 10 minutes ago.

>>148432312
Your Bump, scares me anon

Uh g-good work

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>>148432460
I just woke up and got work in an hour. Sorry.

>>148432312
don't worry this thread is as much #500 as the last thread

>>148432824
I doubt we're gonna get as much art as we did last thread though. And some of those drawfags produced some really nice stuff!

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Wake up, thread. Or Sonic is going to get you.

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>>148432937
metal sonic will protect me from sonic's evil words and deeds

>>148432525
I like gangster sage in the back if that's any consolation

>>148432937
ghost sonic

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>>148427191
It's canon to all sonic designs.

>>148432312
>10 minutes
Sure it wasn't 10 seconds?

>>148434646
Sonic and tails were given three toes in aosth.

>>148434203
Someone needs to draw Marine drinking her sorrows away with Bean and Bark.

Footfaggots get out
REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>148434983
>referencing a Dic cartoon
Sonic characters don't have toes.

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>>148424028
>>148424440
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>>148425416
>>148427191
>>148427271
>>148427389
>>148427418
>>148427494
>>148427553
>>148434646
>>148434983
>>148435439

>>148435439
I could reference the comics, but that was pre reboot, so it probably doesn't count.

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>>148435754
It doesn't.

Haha, must really suck being a footfag in the sonic fandom.

>>148413863
wait, is this satamanon? holy shit.

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>>148435571

>>148435439
I'm sure I saw a later official piece of art showing toes.

>>148436492
You're in denial.

It's time for some HUEHUE HUEHUEHUEHUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHLaaOSaOY8

imo blobs are jarring as fuck
but really it doesn't matter, since we hardly see any characters without shoes anyway
just pretend like their fur is covering them like their nonexistent genetalia

>>148436810
I think paw feet are cute
>>148436831
And I used to think Big's sandels were Boots

>>148436707
>>148436831
>>148436973
It's socks

>>148437147
Jesus christ, you're a faggot.

>>148436553
I wish.

>>148437440
>using preboot shit as proof

Doesn't Nicole still have paws post reboot?

>footfags being cancer
Who ever could have seen this coming?

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Instead of talking toes, let's look at the first issue of Mobius Legends, the Archie Sonic Online project

http://imgur.com/a/YogC3

>>148437586
She has shoes.

>>148437868
Certainly this will leave an impact as large as Sonic the Comic Online.

>>148437868
>the Archie Sonic Online project
What?

I know about STC-O but what is this?

>>148437868
TAILS AND RAY INTERACTING FUCKING WHEN

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Sleepy cutie.

>>148438537
Amy is so perfect.

>>148437868
>http://imgur.com/a/YogC3
Huh, seems interesting.
Might be worth a look after all.

>>148438678
The drooling ruins it

>>148437868
It's better than it deserves to be.

I'd love to write or draw for it.

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>>148438514
I
I kinda want it now

>>148437868
Chili dog story was pretty cute.

>>148438470
An attempt to do something similar, but with the pre-reboot I think.

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>Completely missed the 500th thread
At least I can be part of the collage...right?

>>148440083
You really didn't miss much aside from the latest issue of Universe getting storytimed.

Sonic = Chaos. Eggman = Order. Silver = Sonic. Nega = Eggman. But Nega wants to cause Chaos despite inherently being Order, so does that mean Silver wants to ensure Order despite inherently being Chaos or something?

>>148441312
Does it hurt being that autistic?

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>>148441312
That...that actually makes sense.
What in fuck

>>148441612
Sense? Looks like the unintelligible rambling of an escaped lunatic.

>>148441312
And people wonder why Silver's future is so fucked.

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>>148441738
Not necessarily. It makes sense, you just have to take it from the right perspective:

Sonic = Chaos (Chaos Emeralds, chaos energy, free-spirited radical, overall unpredictable)
Eggman = Order (Eggman Empire, one-world order, subjugation of the masses, roboticization etc.)

I'm not sure about the Silver stuff, but this much I can actually get behind.

>>148442775
Silver and Nega are also pretty much the Sonic and Eggman of the 200+ years later world of the future. But Nega, for some reason, wants to see the world burn. He wants to "bring about an age of fear and chaos", despite the fact that he, as an Eggman, is a being of order. Wouldn't that mean that Silver is a being of Chaos that wants to bring protect the natural order or something?

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>>148441312
>>148442775
Silver tries to stop Eggman Nega's madcap schemes from sowing chaos in the future and / or rest of the timeline (so Silver wants order)

But Silver's a spaghetti-spewing clumsy goof-off who comes from one (or several?) acausal branch of future history and also causes several time paradoxes himself in '06 because he's always thinking with portals (he's inherantly chaos}

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>tfw this place got super autistic at super sonic speed

>>148438795
http://archiesoniconline.com/main/index.php?board=20.0

We need artists. Good luck getting a writing position, though. We have like 20 scripts down the pipe and the higher ups decided that writers who already have something in the works can't submit any more. I was one of the first people to finish a script and I've been sitting on my thumbs for the better part of a year waiting for people to finish my thing.

>>148443676
Yeah, I imagined as such.

I need to git gud first, so maybe in a couple of years (assuming the comic is still running).

>>148440083
Of course.
But I already have your pic so you're good.

>>148443676
The entire project is depressingly unorganized honestly.
I saw Toby was a member of the message board the last time I checked the place out. Is he going to be drawing any pages for the project?

Chaos Emeralds are the servers of chaos

Sonic is chaos, chaos is power enriched by the heart, the controller is the one who unifies the chaos.

The Chaos emeralds serve Sonic who controls them with his enriched heart

Eggman is order, order is subservience enhanced by the brain, the conqueror is the one who controls the order

>>148443676
>we
You should feel ashamed to be a part of that.

Sonic isn't chaos, he's just a guy that loves adventure.

>>148443676
Too bad because any sane artist will want nothing to do with that shitheap.
>editors that can't filter scripts worth shit and couldn't tell a bad comic from a good one and approve garbage consistently
>writers that can't into scripting or plot in the least
>current artists have 0 handle on speech bubble placement and the placement of art around it or any idea how to place panels at all
What a shitshow.

>>148445159
That sound like the old Archie sonic

>>148420883
>>148421002

Gotta fix this situations. Stuck in these new locations.

>>148445516
With out any Ex-Pla-Na-Tion, with no time for Relax-ation

>>148422525
Yes.

>>148444431
That's WHY he's chaos. His rebellious free-spirited adventure-loving nomadic self, combined with his constant absorption of Chaos Energy, is what makes him 'Chaos'.

>>148445159
I'm working on my own stuff outside of it. I'd like to do more with the Sonic stuff, but I wouldn't want to focus writing Sonic fanfiction. It's really the only project that allows me to do what I love, writing for the original Archie canon.

eggman is industrialisation
sonic is nature

you could put that to chaos and order if you wanted.

>>148445417
You aren't wrong.
>>148446187
Then write the fanfiction instead of letting other idiots make your work shittier. Sounds like you just want it in comic form and in a "spiritual continuation" of the old universe to stroke your ego. You're better off not dealing with those fuckheads.

>>148446462
If I wrote anything "fan" related, I'd rather be involved in a fan group, instead of doing things on my own. On my own time, I have plenty of my own projects I can and am working on.

>>148446649
Then don't complain when idiots cause problems for you. If you want to write for the original archie canon then you're better off just posting raw scripts on ff.net or something.

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This guy approaches you on the streets and challenges you to a race. How do you respond? Keep in mind he rescued Princess Elise.

>>148447403
Sonic Man and Princess Elise needs to be a canon shipping some day.

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>>148440083
Posting my pic again for good measure.

>>148447403
I would ignore him
unless he slapped my girlfriend on the ass

>>148447403
I'll ask to be his sidekick TailsBoy a super genius and ace pilot

>>148437868

It's actually pretty good.

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>>148447551
so, you like sonic huh?

>>148447834
Literally who? Not the anon you responded to but that was the entire point of "Chaos is the constant"

Next StH issue when?

>>148450467
July 27th.

>>148450536
Damn. Getting Mega Drive and SU so close together spoiled me. It feels so far away.

>>148451654
Imagine being subscribed to Sonic, Universe, Boom, and Mega Man. Every week was a new comic.

>>148451819
>We'll never get the ideal lineup with:
>Main book for Sonic and the FFs with PLOT
>Universe for side character centric stuff that's self contained
>Boom for self contained humor
>Mega Drive for Classic nostalgia

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Thunder, rain and lightning right now where I live. Water will probably be rising but I don't live in a flood risk area. Tornado sirens were wailing earlier but the warning was lifted about fifteen minutes ago. Hopefully it's not too much of a bad sign.

>>148447551
What's that under the cap on the right of the first picture?

>>148454046
>Watching_Sonic_Undergroud_on_Cytube.jpeg
My baby!

>>148454245
Reminder that Underground got 40 episodes and the OVA was never picked up for a full series

>>148452110
Are you trying to make me cry?

>>148454704
That's good though. I don't think I could have tolerated 40 episodes of Sara.

>>148453123
shit game

>pic is from generations
ok game

>>148454779
I'd rather have 40 episodes of Sara than 40 episodes of off key terrible singing and QUALITY animation

>>148454974
Is having neither a choice?

>>148454974
>off key terrible singing
Would it surprise you to know that Manic's singer got a Grammy nomination?

>>148453242
It's a hoodie hung over my chair!

>>148447730
Yeah he's a cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything.

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>>148454779
>get rid of Sara
>replace with Amy
Why wasn't Amy in the movie anyway? It was almost Sonic CD the movie anyway.

>>148455481
It really wasn't. The onlything it had in common was Sonic meeting Metal Sonic.

>>148455481
If the OVA was picked up Amy probably would've popped up down the road. She was still secondary tier at the time. Adventure was really Amy's big break into being part of the main cast.

>>148455481
Because classic Amy didn't have anything in her ""character""

>>148456264
So make one up. Didn't stop them from making original characters.

Classic Amy had a character, she just didn't have much appearances and stuff in the classic era onthe same level as Tails and Knuckles. Even CD placed focus on Metal Sonic, instead of Amy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ce56RqKfco

>This is what Sonic's marketing team has been doing instead of instead of trying to get people hyped for something

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>>148456719

>>148457208
To be fair there probably isn't even a game in development yet

>>148457208
That's because there's nothing to hype up

>>148457382
>ON THE SAME LEVEL AS TAILS AND KNUCKLES.

Tails and Knuckles were playable characters with heavy promotion during Sonic 2 and 3K. Knuckles even got his name in the title. But for Sonic CD? Amy is there, but she's just a character in the story you have to save, instead all the promotion went to METAL SONIC. Just like Rouge and Blaze, Amy's relevance was decreased the moment she was introduced alongside a variation of Sonic.Rouge was the leader of Team Dark? No, its all about SHADOW. Blaze was her own independent character/was the Batman to Silver's Robin in '06? No, it's all about SILVER.

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>>148454779
boo

>>148457383
>>148457407
I mean granted, they probably made this since they had nothing better to do but

>Something awesome is being announced on July 22nd. We swear!
>In the meantime, here's a dog in a Sonic costume. People on the interwebs think dogs are funny, right?
Just holy shit! These fucking people!

>>148458809
She was a shit character.

>>148458916
She's cute anon

>>148458997
She's a loud, hateful, cantankerous bitch with no redeeming qualities.

>>148459065
I can name three

>>148459065
Sounds like Amy

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>trying to justify the token human child

>trying to justify why character that has nothing in it should be in non canon stuff

>>148437868
Okay so they're definitely fan-made, but do they have Ian's seal of approval?

>>148460331
No. This is entirely a fan project without anyone from Archie being involved

>>148460331
He doesn't give two shits about it.

watching hellfirecomms playthrough of Sonic Lost World and man it is very salty.
HFC without Gareth is meh desu (barring the helldragon of course).

>>148460331
Ian tries not to touch fan content at all. I think he said he was fine with fans adapting LHT for fan stuff, but I can't remember where I read that.

>>148460331
He's probably fine with it. I imagine he likes knowing that fans enjoyed what he did with the old universe enough to want to continue the stories of it.

>>148457208
They'll hype once the announcements hit next week. People complained about announcements of announcements, so now we got videos of cute dogs until the 22nd. Win win to me

>>148461012
Well duh

>>148462935
just thought I'll bring it up here
I was expecting some contrarian opinions but no, there's a consensus.

Tom was the straight man and gareth was the 'wacky' one. good combination. out of the two new guys on LW, one is uptight and pretentious (even quoted fucking skakespeare) and the other one is boring.

>>148437868
Alright. I just read this and to me, it doesn't seem like they know what they're doing with it. If this is supposed to be a continuation of the pre-reboot continuity, that's not at all what I'm seeing here. We get a story about the Zone Cops that leads in to where pre-reboot left off but then it just ends. Then there's a story about Tails and Ray which was cute but doesn't really add anything overall. And I have no idea what the fuck that Blaze and Elise story was even supposed to be.

So there's an editorial page at the end explaining that this wasn't even part of the continuation but rather a spinoff of it. Doing shit like that in fancomics is a terrible idea and only slows down production of the real thing. You just don't do it. Make a few issues of the fucking real continuation first, see how long it takes the team to get through them and then decide if a spinoff is worth pursuing. (If it takes more than several months to get an issue out, then it's probably not a good idea.) And none of this is apparently canon to their main story so what is even the point of it?

The artwork and overall presentation is good, I'll give them that but everything else about this is a mess. I give them two or three more issues before it falls apart and dies. And why did they include an advertisement for Sonic Dash at the end? Was that necessary? It's not like this is an official comic.

>>148463865
The Editors are DEAD-SET on following Lost Hedgehog Tales, which means waiting until they are done until we are able to work on it.. If you want to explain why that's a terrible idea, please go on the site and tell them so

>>148463602

pretty much. Tom has tried to cobble together a new "Sonic Team" for his videos after Gareth leaving but i just can't watch them.

>>148458826
What you got against dogs, anon?

>>148464131
such a shame because Tom has put a lot of effort/years into this. I hate to say but he should try something else, he barely makes enough to support himself.

meanwhile BSC goes from strength to strength and while I don't begrudge their success I find it odd those guys keep going while Tom struggles.

>>148464048
I wonder what the plan is when Ian finally just admits he's not going to finish LHT. Because it's not going to come out.

>>148465167
It helps that most of FTCR have fun personalities.

>>148465167
even Gareth's channel has slowly been picking up speed. their stuff is rarely "serious" but is at least usually entertaining to listen to. and yeah BSC shot up, likely helped by Johnny's audience, but still.

It feels like Tom's channel is missing some key piece to tie everything together into something unique

>>148465297
They'll have quit by then I'm sure.

>>148465404
>>148465419

true, its very chaotic at points.
Tom is the straight man, he needs someone like that to bounce off of. (like another helldragon). The trouble is that personalities like that are a rarity.

FTCR has gareth and smoovies etc.

>>148464048
>>148465297
Okay. So I'm looking at their forums and

>1. The story with the Zone Cops seems to had been out since January. It took them six months to make the rest of this first issue.
>2. According to one of their FAQs, they aren't using Lost Hedgehog Tales anymore based on how long it's been taking to be released.
>3. They plan on making a Sonic Universe continuation as well.

So yeah. This spinoff thing is a terrible idea. I can register for their forums and tell them that but I'm wondering if that's even worth the time since I doubt they'll even get their second issue out. Their plans are way too ambitious for this sort of thing.

>>148452110
>forgetting shadow and the agents of g.u.n.

>>148455302
Woah, I love it!

>>148465962
Yeah. Idk though even when Smoovies was on HFC's Heroes playthrough it all just felt awkward. idk

>>148467743
Probably because he's both Garreth and NTom's friend and there's bad blood between the two.

>>148466019
I really doubt you'd be able to change much of anything, just let them try and figure themselves out and let it succeed or fail in whatever way. If it gets something alright like Ray/Tails story, then good, if not then oh well.

Remember when the Sonic Twitter tweeted that he identified as a attack helicopter and people got ass blasted

good times

>>148467996
It's fun watching people react.

>>148467816
Elaborate?

>>148468519
They just don't get along.

>>148468519
>>148468598
I remember reading it was something to do with Gareth wanting a cut of the profits but not doing more commentaries to earn it.
Tom didn't want to pay him, so they fell out.

>>148467878
I think the main problem is that they just don't have their priorities balanced out. Like I said earlier, the art and presentation is good. They're just starting on the wrong note. Aside from whoever wrote the Blaze story, they do have a decent team put together. It's that the efforts aren't being put into the right thing.

Chemical Zone sucks

I started reading from the beginning a few months ago.

I am now 3 issues into the reboot era and I'm fucking confused.
I thought you guys said it was a complete mind wipe, because both certain characters are straight up referencing the old continuity

>>148469194
Yes it is

But Chemical Plant Zone is awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ZdV-EGLpk

>>148469301
Sonic, Eggman, and Naugus remember the old canon, but for copyright purposes will never reference it again.

>>148469301

After the first Arc or so it goes away.

It's a long story, due to editorial fuckery. Basically, Kaminski wanted to make sure he could still push pre-reboot trades, so making the reboot "soft" was his solution

>>148469301
Countdown to Chaos was a terrible way to start a reboot in concept.

The dual memories thing was the editor's idea. He doesn't work on the comic anymore thankfully.

>>148469301
Sonic and Robotnik remember everything but nobody else does.

The only reason they don't discuss it is literally because the old canon is essentially trademarked now. It's dumb, and they should have just made it so nobody remembers it, but that's what we have.

>>148469301
For all intents and purposes it's a hard reboot with an in-universe justification. Ian wanted to just make it an obvious hard reboot after Eggman messes up the world rebuilding, but the editor wanted it to be softer because he thought it would help sell the trades of pre-reboot issues. Of course, that assumes Archie can actually publish trades with any level of consistency.

>>148469301
>>148469521

Also, Kaminski is gone, now.

>>148469301
They stop referencing it after the first reboot arc, but technically speaking, yes, they still remember what happened. Nothing has happened to wipe their minds to be like everyone else's.

Most people agree this was a bad decision and that they should have just given Sonic and Eggman the same amnesia as everyone else.

The silver lining is that if somehow one day this all goes away and Penders grows a new leaf or dies or whatever, they have their in via Eggman and Sonic to bring back in old unfinished plot lines. I'm guessing that was the reasoning.

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>>148469686
> Of course, that assumes Archie can actually publish trades with any level of consistency.

Still waiting.

>>148468810
they're better off apart these days at least

>>148469686
>>148470016
Back around 2012-2013, there was a new trade every couple months. The failed kickstarter they tried to do last year for the reboot of their main Archie series fucked everything up.

What are you guys talking about? By #257 it's implied they've completely forgotten about the old universe.

>>148470268
sad but true, even if they did work together regularly again it wouldn't have the same dynamics.

they live in different places and have drifted apart, tom said he talked to FTA about the commentaries on futurama DVD's, can't imagine their that close now.

>>148469378
>>148469561
>>148469925
>>148470636

And even by #271, everyone's memories of the old canon have been confirmed to have faded away.

https://mobile.twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/555888165446111234

>>148470496
Also the executives suing each other for sexual harassment probably isn't helping.

>>148470636
I think people are confusing Sonic and Eggman remembering Worlds Collide with them remembering the old universe. Worlds Collide still happened in the new continuity, the lead up to it was just different than the original. But since the Super Genesis Wave rewrote the past and the present (and the future), the original lead up never happened, the new one did. Even though the new lead up wouldn't exist without the old one.

More simply, timefuckery.

>>148470976
>Also the executives suing each other for sexual harassment probably isn't helping.
I'm still surprised Pellerito stayed on as President after that.

>>148469301
>>148470831

Someone asked Ian about this at a con about a month ago.
The explanation is that certain characters involved with the universe alteration have a complete memory of the old-canon events, while most characters have no memory.

However, their memories of the old canon seem like dreams. This is the example Ian gave. If you think about a dream, when you first wake up, you can remember it well, but as time moves on, the details become fuzzy to the point where you essentially forget it.
Then the fan asked something like "never say never, right?" To which Ian replied "no comment"

I'll try to find a video.

>>148471157
He's probably biding his time to take over the company once everyone above him is dead or fired.

>>148471281
>I'll try to find a video.

If there wasn't a knowing smile with that no comment, then it was a never.

>>148469089
The question is whether they would be willing to listen and get those priorities straightened out. You could bring these points up with solutions, but if they don't listen then nothing gets resolved. I suppose you could give it a shot, but it's up to you.

>>148471927
We probably will get the old canon rights back eventually, but it won't be for a long time.
Even if they got the rights today, the team is having too much fun with going through the games right now.

>>148472220
>We probably will get the old canon rights back eventually, but it won't be for a long time.
Of course we will. It's a fucking comic book.
Legal disputes like this are nothing new.
Anyone that thinks it's done for good doesn't know this buisness.
Just don't get your hopes up any time soon.
I would say no chance before 350.
Slight chance before 400.
50/50 by 500
Guaranteed by 600, if the comic is still running.

Don't they also change a bunch of unnecessary character lore that has had no effect on anything?

>>148472769
>Don't they also change a bunch of unnecessary character lore that has had no effect on anything?
The characters are all a few years yoinger. Sonic is 15 in the new canon instead of 18 for instance, despite the fact that everyone acts the same.

But yeah it's really not a big deal.

>>148472769
Can't think of anything in particular. Part of the problem is Archie is so paranoid about using things from the comics before the current writing staff were hired that even tiny details that didn't come from the games or cartoons had to get cut.

>>148473005
Wait he was 18 in the old comic? How old were the others then like Amy and Tails

>>148473868
>Celebrated his 16th birthday in issue 68
>Was in space for a year
>Celebrated another birthday in issue 160

>>148473868
>Wait he was 18 in the old comic? How old were the others then like Amy and Tails
Yeah, he turned 18 right when evil sonic became scourge.
Sally was actually 19.
The other characters were all mid-late teens except for the obvious ones like Tails.

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>ages

>>148473868
Well, Amy was actually 8 or something in the body of a teenager because power ring shenanigans used to explain her Adventure redesign. Instead, of you know, not bothering explaining it because it's not something that needs to be that detailed.

Not as bad as them explaining how Sonic got green eyes and buckles on his shoes though.

>>148473868
Knux and Sally were a year older.
Somewhere it's stated that Mina is 17.

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>>148474286
Yes?

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>>148474286
I know we're talking about preboot ages, but I still want to post it.

>>148474286
This.

Aging in Sonic has never made sense.
There's no sense trying to make sense of it now. Not only do the characters "look" and act older than they are in the games, but Sega expects us to believe that every game before generations takes place in the same year.

>>148474293
What happened to his old shoes and his eyes

>>148473868
Tails was 11 and Amy was physically 17 but mentally 11.

>>148474202
>Sally was 19
I thought that was Bunnie's age. She and Ant were the oldest at 19 and 20 respectively

>>148474635
I always just assumed that as animals they mature faster than than humans do.

>>148474293
They should've just suddenly switched over to the Sonic Adventure artstyle for the adaptation of that game and then stick with it afterwards.

If you come up with the most convoluted explanation for Sonic's eyes changing conceivable, how do you explain it for every other character?

>>148474653
I don't remember the exact details, but basically he went fast and when he came back to Knothole he had green eyes and new shoes.

Best explanation for a modern redesign was Vector, who realized he was basically useless in the Chaotix and started lifting so he could help out more.

>>148474879
>I always just assumed that as animals they mature faster than than humans do.
This

>>148474879
I just assumed they were cartoon characters and their ages are meaningless like Bugs and Mickey.

>>148475101
Pretty much what this, very few fictional actually age over time

>>148475317
>Pretty much what this, very few fictional actually age over time
You're in the wrong fanbase, m8

>>148474889
I've always considered the change in artstyle for Adventure to be nothing more than a change in artstyle. It wasn't until Generations that SEGA really started acting like classic Sonic was a younger Sonic or Sonic from another dimension depending on how Iizuka feels when you ask him.

I guess Penders and Bollers were just doing it before it was cool. Actually, I don't think either of them would care that much to explain it either. It was probably Gabrie's idea.

>>148467996
I liked the MN9 tweet more. The attack helicopter one got people mad because they were idiots, the MN9 one was true bant.

>>148475408
The way they handled Classic and Modern Sonic reminded me of Back to Alvin's Future, where the Chipmunks of the 90's met their literal past selves from the '60s.

>>148475383
Why I don't care that they don't age, I just like Sonic because I think its fun and like the games

Robotnik is being redesigned!
Archie: Another Robotnik from another dimension who's an actual robot comes to Sonic's dimension to replace the old Robotnik who we killed off and because the robot Robotnik killed off his Sonic and Freedom Fighters because he's more eviler and powerful than the previous Robotnik and now he has a new robot body that looks like the new Dr. Eggman.
Fleetway: Robotnik puts on a different jacket.

Amy is being redesigned!
Archie: Amy uses a super-powerful artifact that only works once and could've been used to save Sally's dad from turning into a crystal or going crazy to turn herself into a slightly older girl, so now she's a prepubescent girl in a post-pubescent body and everyone is fine with this, even Sally.
Fleetway: She combs her quills to looks like hair.

Sonic is being redesigned!
Archie: One of Robotnik's machines somehow put Knothole out of temporal sync and one of his satellites could cause that to somehow blow up the world or something so Sonic takes a Super Emerald and transforms into a bunch of DA recolors while running really fast backward and that somehow gives him green eyes and shoe buckles.
Fleetway: Sonic introduces Chaos to vore fetishism.

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>>148475647
>fun

>>148474490
I miss the Dreamcast

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>>148475723
I love this so much.

>>148475734
Now upload the gif of it hitting Tails that is fun to watch

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>>148475723
To be fair on the Eggman part, I'm pretty sure Robo-Robotnik showed up before the redesign, and using his pre-established body jumping ability to put him into an Eggman body wasn't the worst idea with the previous context.

Shame he never let Eggamania run wild on Sonic.

>>148476236
I love how Knuckles goes from having the shit kicked out of him to being mildly annoyed in one panel.

>>148476147
it was a noisy thing though...

>>148476236
>"this sky sanctuary is gonna be a pretty small zone, red..."

>>148476961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abd9KLO-Foo

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>>148476457
I'm still not even sure if there were two Robo Robotniks or not.

This is only three issues after Night of 1000 Sonics yet they act like this Robo Robotnik is a different character, only acknowledging the previous one by saying "That's happened before."

>>148476147
The startup sound and logo were comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whrmtU8MY44

>>148477170
Bollars said it was one Robo Robotnik, Ian retconned it as two.

>>148477170
>>148477518
I think I read at some point he regretted doing that. Which he should, because it's the continuity snarl he made worse by trying to fix it instead of just ignoring it.

>>148477643
I'm glad in the new continuity, the Eggman is the only Eggman.

>>148477860
He's got the Master Plan after all.

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>>148438537

>>148438537
Goddamn that's cute.

>>148435571
I'm sorry.

>>148413449
>bump for the 500
Reminds me of this
http://theride.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2136

>>148480829
Bump's Bum
>Neat.

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>Sonic Jump only last year or so finally got it's final levels but is not fun to play
>Sonic Dash is dead, twice over with online play/recording, thrice over once they added the new UI
>Sonic Jump Fever was a mess
>Sonic Runners was a mistake and likely one of the worst Sonic games on tier with Boom Wii U & 06
>Sonic Dash 2 sucks and yet despite having all the Main Cast + Shadow available, still implies there will be more characters added
So who the fuck are they gonna add? Metal? Because that would suck if that was it.

Why does Sega suck so much in making a good long lasting mobage?

>>148481541
Runners had serious potential that was utterly fucked after the global release and update.

>>148481541
Microtransactions are such an easy way to make money, even attempting to make a good mobage sets off their allergies. Otherwise they would've made a chao raising game with microtransactions out the wazoo. Or Chao Atsume. Or Chao Garden Go.

>>148481541
>Sonic Dash is dead
I thought it was alive and well, given some of the presentations from Sega and how they treated it as the example to follow or something.

>online play/recording
What the fuck is that?!

>>148481541
>sonic runners was a mistake
I thought it was fun. What was wrong with it, other than obvious microtransaction and shitty menu stuff.

>>148482061

Why SEGA still didn't make a chao garden mobile game? It's style would be perfect to go mobile.

>>148482218
>>online play/recording
>What the fuck is that?!
For a time, they had the option to record your gameplay and share it via social media. They had also the option to fight score vs score against another player.

Both lead to the game frequently being glitchy and crashing. The game was completely fine before then. Tangentially related, they also had a lives system that was replaced with how it is now when they released the new UI. I had a fuckton of lives saved so they converted all the lives into Red Rings. Huge ringflow when that happened as Red Rings are harder to get than before.

>>148482610
If you played on a phone that wasn't an up-to-snuff android, the game played like ass. Especially with it's always online DRM checking which caused the game to lag all to hell and frequently crash. Even now as the game is nearing it's death it crashes all the time.

>>148482696
Guy who made A-Life patented it, they literally can't unless he gives the okay.

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>>148482696
They haven't made one yet because, thanks to that little panel Aaron held a few months back with Izuka present, they're only JUST NOW realizing how much people loved Chao raising.

You can watch the panel yourself to see Izuka's reaction to everyone screaming about Chao and his baffled expression. It truly shows just how out-of-touch with the fans the devs at Sonic Team are.

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>>148483060
They don't need A-Life for a Chao mobile game. The concept of Chao is something SEGA has obvious access to, and a mobile Chao game wouldn't be as in depth as the Adventure Chao gardens.

Also, source on him patenting it? Doesn't seem like he's doing much with it, so even if that is true I see little reason for him to not let them use it unless he's Japanese Edison.

>>148483110
I remember seeing a video of a convention a few years ago with tons more people screaming for chao while he was there. Nothing came of it and I don't really see how now would be any different.

>>148482696

This >>148483110

They're just incredibly out of touch.

>>148483110
>It truly shows just how out-of-touch with the fans the devs at Sonic Team are.
That's just true in general for Japanese devs and executives. They are so Japan focused that they just assume the worst with outside Japan, like an afterthought. S-E for example never knew how badly people hated XIII until just last year.

There really needs to be better communication between international offices on public opinion. But knowing Sega's history, that ain't happening.

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>>148483205
>untill a death sentence for every human being on Earth?

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>>148483498

>>148483482
It always amuses me that this happened with SEGA, considering they were founded by Americans. But as soon as Rosen goes back to the States to set up SoA the Japanese execs go into full Japanese supremacy mode.

>>148483498
cool shortcut

>>148483060
It has literally never crashed for me. And I had it on iphone 4 and 5. Also never really lagged either. At least not to my memory. Maybe you just have a garbage phone, man.

>>148483749
That background makes me wonder
Why did GUN decide to keep Sonic in the same cell that Gerald was in, anyway?

And why did they not decide to wipe that shit off the wall at any point during the 50 years following Gerald's execution, anyway

>>148483963
I also have a 4 and it almost never didn't crash. Nice relativist fallacy, tho.
inb4 memes

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>>148483963
I also have an iPhone 5, shit sucked ass. You must of just been lucky.

Suffering in 25 minutes.

>>148484145
>>148484152
Must have. Oh well. I'll still be sad to see it go
I just got Amy in it too.

>>148484124
Probably the most secure cell on the island. Considering what Tails went through and Amy dropping out of a vent, it was probably deep inside the base.

As for leaving the writing, either Gerald scratched it in or they just don't use that cell enough that they felt it was necessary. Or G.U.N. has terrible record keeping and that's the only records they have of the finishing touches on Project Shadow.

>>148484650
They could have just taken pictures of the shit then wiped it down

>>148483749
This bit always reminded me of the Resident Evil: Code Veronica boss Nosferatu who was tied up in his chair so it always kinda creeped me out seeing Gerald like this.

Code Veronica was fucking horrifying.