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>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Read the UPDATED /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ser9Acpg

>Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Soon, new shekels madness with cerebral free SP and stuff snek themed.
>Did you forget to do your dailies?
>Cap changes, fighter changes and legal drugs: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6523897#post6523897
>June 28th Sneks Supers and Titans: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/shadow-of-the-serpent-signal-the-dawn/
>Winter: new "drilling platforms"
>Fall: new "industrial arrays", barge reworks
>Summer: AOE BOOST/LINK REWORK, citadel iterations + contracts, Rorqual rework

Past:
>Goonswarm is dead.
>May 31: RIP old camera, new multi-use analyzers introduced
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>May 24: DO YOUR SP DAILIES
>May 12: Name ships automatically with a saved fit name
>May 06: Eve Online 13th Anniversary
>Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released. Tears, bugs, etc. RIP rolling yachts.
>Apr 21: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-11-election-results/
>Mar 09: Massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits.
>Feb 18: Last CSM X Summit: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-second-csm-x-summit-meeting-minutes-included
>Feb 09: SP trading
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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>join Certified-Organic corp
>download TS3
>sign up on services page
>set up API with highest mask, (they can even read my Jita whore diaries)
>set up TS3 auth from services
>set up Mumble auth from services
>Download Mumble
>set up forums account from services
>please use this info to log into forums and then set up forum-API link
>k
>set up Discord
>Need to make a Discord account first
>k
>Set up Discord auth
>Download Discord
>error, contact our helpdesk pilots in-game
>k
>Set up Jabber
>Download Pidgin
>Set up Skype
>Update Skype, 800mb of ram skype.exe running in the background
>Set up ISBoxer for my Jita whore muktitasking
>Log into Slack
>Bunch of shitposting
>Set up Facebook corp group to recieve (requirement to file for SRP)
>Go lose a ship and link a KM to authenticate the SRP program
>Lose my Arty Vagabond
>ok.
>File Arty Vagabond for SRP
>Denied
>Not a Corp fitting
>okey.
>PINGPIGPING
>QUICK COMMS #3 TIME TO HIT TOWER EVERYONE GET ON NAGAS
>No Naga in new home system
>"C-can I bring my Punisher"?
>"Yes you can bring tackle but you need to download the new tackle comms mumble plugin v0.2 first anon go to this link anon https://a.cocaine.ninja/fvxpoy.exe"
>...O-okey ...I-is it safe?
>"Also make sure you download the new Windoes 10 only Discord Overlay, link is somewhere on the forums."
>Cool
>Searching Forums
>Access Denied: Need additional APIs
>Set up my Jita whore API so I can make it to the fleet
>"Ok everyone undoc- anon are you really a Jita whore"?
>New program has to update, doesn't ask for permission.
>Reboot PC
>Corp channel blinking
>Alliance channel blinking
>Director wants to start new conversation
>Pidgin blinking
>Discord blinking
>Skype blinking and using 2gb of ram
>TS3 blinking
>Mumble blinking, tackle comms mumble plugin going nuts
>Forums notifications blinking
>new Facebook message on your wall.
>ANNNOOOON GET ON COOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMSSSSS
>My mind slowly drifts into the abyss.

welcome to EVE
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>tfw that copypasta still isn't funny

oh well.
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did you get your 10k sp today anon-chan?
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amarr :^)
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>mittens will never be your bf
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>>148370969
>Xe thinks people care what xe thinks
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OFFICIAL LIST OF WORST TYPES OF PLAYERS IN EVE:

1. Nullsec botters/ratters/mission runners
2. Highsec botters/ratters/mission runners
3. Nullbabby napfest blobbers
4. Lowsec 'elite' link-alt slave set pvpers
5. 'hisec pvp'
6. Miners
7. Industrialists
8. Traders
9. Scammers

9001. Honorabru solo roamers

90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec

900001. C5-6 WH pvpers
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>still no news about t3 nerf
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GETS KILLED BY A SUPERIOR SHIP

Normal people:
>wow what a cool ship. Can't wait to fly it too.

Autists:
>omg ccp u have to nerf its so op i need my perfetc balancing because im autism and if you dont nerf ill cry on reddit and b4r and i totally didn't avoid the fight because i dont know what dscan is and im a fucking idiot herpdurpededef
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>mfw buttblasted fotm fags
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>tfw fotm fags in /eog/
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>tfw unadaptable autists in /dog/
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>yfw those autists are fotmfags
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>implying fotm fags know shit about adapting
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>t3c/ds are in game for years/moths
>i-i-i-ts just fotm guise
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>ccp have failed to this long to balance these ships, so they must be ok
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>>148375652
But they do, they adapt to the next fotm cancer.
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>>148375993
Only after someone else shows it to them.
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>people actually think passive align is real
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>all these faggots not flying cool ships because it hurts their honor
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>>148377059
>he doesn't fly 300+ mil fit garmurs and 1.5 bil orthuses
>what a poorfag
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>not realising that your overpowered ships only seem 'fun' or 'cool' because they dump on all the balanced ships, and being a shitter you need this advantage to feel special
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>that one guy in /eog/ who is dishonorable
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>tfw svipul fags will never get banned from this sub
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has anyone done any math on how many sp a gold ouroboros gives you over its duration?
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>>148377543
Not enough to warrant the huge grind

farming isk to buy skill injectors will always be faster and give more SP
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>it needs to be expensive
>he thinks other ships are balanced
>le svipul argument
>he thinks i fly exclusively memeships
>he cares about honor in a game without rules
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>>148377616
ive already done the grind
i just want to know how it compares to a skill injector since theyre sort of close in price
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>he shitposts on /eog/ trying to convince everyone that he isnt a fotm cancerfag
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>>148377701
It's shit. This whole event is shit. Not even quafe drops. They added some loot to the battlecruisers but so fat it was just generic meta garbage. Idk if they drop anything better.
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>>148377543
it's 100k SP

The copper is ~11k SP

The fact that there are literal retards out there paying 600 mill a gold accelerator that gives out 100k instead of paying for a skill injector which gives you 400k is baffling
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>mfw not replying to dishonour shitters
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>having an argument means shitpost
>honor
>actually forcing rules on yourself
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>argument
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>>148377876
that sounds about right, but is there work for this somewhere i can look at? i know you make about
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>he undocks without rituals to preserve honor
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>she isn't an honorabru space samurai
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>not being an amarr khanid cyberknight
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>>148378313
there was someone who showed the calculation in leddit. I can't for the life of me find it.
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>be in corp
>forming a fleet for a roam
>"hey anon wanna come on a provi roam to dunk some miners"
>"WHAT? THIS IS DISHONORABLE!! HOW DARE YOU!"
>uh what?
>"REEEEEEE"
>I can literally hear over mic the foam forming in his mouth
>he starts shooting my ship to "remove dishonor from this corp"
>ceo kicks him from corp and bans from comms
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>mfw an unironic svipul pilot applies to join my corp
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>>148378871
>>"hey anon wanna come on a provi roam to dunk some miners"
>ok

>miners set up smartbomb battleships
>twice

the salt that night, oh
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>>148378826
well i actually just did my own independent math and yeah, it comes down to like somewhere between 80 and 100k. how fucking lame.
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>literally 10
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>some guy wants to join corp
>says he's an FC
>never FC's in corp
>whines when no one is doing FC
>doesn't want to do support, logi or what ever, only wants to F1 monkey
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you boys remember when goons went to lowsec with 400 people in proteus hardcounters and still lost to less than 200, feeding uncontrollably.
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>>148384874
I remember when they undocked their battleship fleet for the first time and they had to stand down because they didn't have Javelin because someone bought it all on market
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>>148384874
I remember when some dank memer bought all of their machs and replaced the 1600 plates with 100mm plates, and relisted them.
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>>148385420
Or guardians, or 50M raptors, or no canes on market.
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>ywn gas bryce THIS hard
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can you play this game solo?
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>rapids still produce killmarks

why
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>>148387201
No, this is a highly social game that more or less requires you to interact with the community to actually participate in it
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>>148387315
lol
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Why is anyone still bothering to play this shit now it's been turned into care-bear central?
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>>148387361
what ships are considered "ong point/scram" ships and what are the ranges? I'm trying to decide if I should go out and train a Lachesis or not.
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>>148388104
the lachesis can point out to like 80km with a faction point and links

it can scram out to like 25km overheated, faction scram, links, etc
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>>148387957

humor me
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>>148388662


No, but I'll double your isk.
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>>148388786

sent
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>>148387201
I play it solo.

Not recommended if you are new. you CAN, but it easy to lose sight of what you are doing. You always need to be setting goals and going out there and having fun. This is usually easy to do when you are in a large corp and FCs hand content to you on a platter
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>>148388786
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>>148389256
What a slut
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>Standing Fleet is still going strong. Come and make isk while getting strat papsWe need more Procures and ventures mining.

So this is the power of the Imperium.
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Wherever I go, I must also cyno.
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>>148390678
close, its wherever i am. still good tho
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>Corp recruiters bullying people applying to join
>mfw I got in without an application

Thanks Snuff
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>>148389096
you dont play EVE "solo", no matter what you do you are playing with other people. You are eventually going to make friends, and work with someone at some point. Its impossible not to. You can run missions and PvE all day, but unless you want to really get involved with the game you're having fun with, you should definitely seek out involvement with another player. they'll seek you out eventually.

SHOULD EVE be played alone? NO! can it? Yes, if you want to limit your fun and badassery. Think you can take on an 7/10 escalation by yourself? DO YOU?! i dont think so.

Real talk. Word- BIG UPS to my homies in null. Respec to my homies in da K. Peace out my nigga. Rollin for da empress beyatch!
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how long does the cloak take before you disappear from overview
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>>148392178
what system are you in? ill let you know
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>>148392247

hakonen
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>>148391952
Didn't read all that sperg because I know what your autistic ass is about to say after you said "huurr you don't play this game solo".

Yes, you still interact with people you dumbshit, I am talking about personally playing solo without a corp of people and voice comms you autistic faggot.
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>>148392605
well if you had read the rest of what i said, you would have seen that i was alluding to the association of corps and shit. Techincally, wanting to be alone and not interact with other people is a sign of autism as well...so, we may both be autistic.

but can you really complete a 7/10 ded site solo?
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>>148392745
you can solo a 10/10 in a tengu you dumbshit
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THE TENGU IS THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING
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>>148392980
The Caldari spare no expense when it comes to gathering shekels.
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>>148392906
oooho look at me with a tengu im so cool

did you also P2W?
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>hurr eve online is the only game with overpowered units and a meta, what a shit game lmao
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>>148393117
>Xe doesn't buy plexes to convert to isk

how's it feel to be cucked on a dying game?
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>>148393117
Why should I cooperate and reduce my profit?
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>>148394045
literally no response. you can get massive more profit by working together with people. You can combine resources and get even more shit and you can use corporate money instead of your own! You'll effectively double your monetary funds.
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>>148395110
lmao do you even play this game?
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>>148395335
yeah and ive doubled my money in a corp. its nice. sounds like you dont like having fun and earning mega money. You think playing solo renders the big ISK? playing together doubles it.
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>>148395520
lying-ass nigga right here
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>>148395748
>>148395520
I don't have to split with a dumb nigger doing a 10/10 with me.
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new art from mspaint friend
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>>148396185
looks pretty good when it's zoomed out
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>>148396185
>amarr
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>>148396295
Yeah, i downsize them and sell them as sigs to alliance members.
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Am I missing anything?

http://pastebin.com/RNRga0RS
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>>148398848
Nah it's fine.
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>>148399126
Sick, now time to plan out a Pilgrim/Cyno alt so I can sit cloaky in the belt and buttfuck people that try and fuck with my fleet.
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>he doesn't have combat rorqual
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Is it a good idea to use a deep space transport as a super-industrial/mini-freighter in highsec?

I'm questioning this because on paper it's EHP wall is foolproof for transporting over a half billion assets

on the other side the killmail whore could take the 210mil of the ship into the calculation of efficiency

anyway how do you fit your DST?
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>>148400035
Using anything but DST in hisec is suicide.
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>>148399869
Is it bad I legitimately considered this? I can't think of any benefits beyond

>100% drone bonus dmg/hp
>125 bandwidth
>capital Remote Shield Booster

Is there something I'm not considering?
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>>148400284
It's more of a bait/backup until counter drop arrives. With neuts and bulkheads. Depends who drops you.
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>Combat rorqual with battle skiff support will probably be a thing in the next few months
>When someone is about to kill it the guy re-enforces it for hours to waste everyone's time
>mfw
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>>148400481
It only holds for 30 seconds and burns out.
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they will be legit after the mining changes in the fall
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>>148400564

Wasn't CCP going to put a module that made it and the mining ships on grid invulnerable until help arrived?
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>>148400679
Yes, it holds for 30 seconds. It's the same as the cap emergency hull energizer.

>>148400646
It's rorq changes, not mining. Mining is still shit.
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>>148400872
they literally said they are changing mining l2read
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>>148400216
DST is a covert ops industrial ship?

Im training to use one now, is it worth it?
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>>148400872

>it holds for 30 seconds

Then whats the point, what help can you get in 30 seconds when a blops fleet drops on you?
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>>148400872
They are reworking barges.

>>148400939
They won't be reworking mining in general.

BECAUSE THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH MINING GET FUCKED EXPLORATION NORMIES.
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>>148401105
They are REDESIGNING barges, not reworking.

Literally everything is wrong with mining.

>normie
back to facebook
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>>148401296
Mining did nothing wrong.
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>target a rock
>press f1
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>>148401296
illiterate fuck
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>-1 cpu for strip miners
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>>148400947
no it's the other one, the one based on the bigger T1

it sports:
>a 50k - 67k cargo bay that cannot be modified but with the ship skill
>T2 resists
>can use MJD
>+2 warp core stabs
>bonuses to overheating

basically an industrial ship that can take a beating

the blockade runner is the stealthy covops one
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>mining has to be some stupid interactive mini-game.
>mining has to require travel and being behind enemy lines.
>for some reason there is absolutely everything wrong with having a sedentary and and mundane profession that makes income appropriate to its risk and activity level.

Just leave it alone man, people like it, honestly and truly like it.
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>tfw ninja ice in shatterred whs is shit because i have to sit there like an idiot because a more engaging mechanic would upset our vegetative friendos in hisec
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>>148402357
and then people be like "WHY are we losing players? Where did it all go wrong???"
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>>148402357
I can get behind there being high activity/risk ore/ice/gas shit for prospects and endurance pilots.

I don't think we should make that gameplay the same as "mining" mining though. Your adressing two completely different groups of players.
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>>148402558

>and then people be like "WHY are we losing players? Where did it all go wrong???"

Two words. Elite: Dangerous.
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>>148401059
Whoever said 30 seconds is wrong, its more like 5 minutes or something like that.
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>>148405962
Mom look, I posted it again!
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>>148376697
>its good because its popular because it gets kills because 'its good'
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Do the event rewards always contain the same shit? So far what i've seen it doesn't vary at all.
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>>148381845
Isn't it (primary stat)+(half of secondary stat) to determine the SP you get per minute for a skill?

So the Ouro Accelerators give an additional 15 SP per minute for their duration.
Gold lasts 7,200 minutes.
Comes out to 108k SP.
It was rumored (I haven't bothered with the event, so can't confirm) that Biology also affected the duration of the Ouro Accelerators, so double duration at level 5 for a total of 216k SP.
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Why isn't the new bodyarmor fuckign serpentis colored?

>scope
haha i'm so intersteller novinář lolo xDD
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Tell me how to make ISK as trial right now or your mother dies tonight
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I am not gay.
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>>148411784
I warned you
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>>148405962
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>she isn't elite and dangerous
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>>148411784
You have no power here
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u fuckin niggers dont even keep ur thread alive
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Hows it feel that amarr womyn are falling for the superior strong brutor?
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Is this too bling fit for a mining fleet?

[Skiff, Tanky Ice]
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Damage Control II

Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Ice Harvester II

Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


Infiltrator II x5
Acolyte II x5
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>>148424173
HS carebear spotted
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>>148424228
nullsec.
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>>148424173
>3 invulns

If you don't have a defence fleet, you'll get killed anyway. Just sayin
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>>148424271
You dont really care about being tanky then, keep an eye on Intel/stay aligned, the only NPC you can fear is the Dreadnought
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>>148424386
what else would you put in the mid slots? I was thinking a cloaky pilgrim for tackle/cyno along side the fleet.

>>148424502
I want to fuck people up. I have 10 miners and a cyno alt.

[Skiff, Unnamed loadout]
Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Spodumain Mining Crystal II

Medium Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Acolyte II x10
Infiltrator II x5

is my ore setup. I have one skiff with a target painter/sensor booster to act as the drone bunny.
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>>148424684
If you want to fuck people, fit DDA, scram or point.

>10 people
You mean actual humans or 10 alts?
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>>148424750
10 alts. Since the drones are assigned its like the same thing.

Drop a laser upgrade for DDA? I don't know about fitting scram/point on the barges. I was thinking either a pilgrim or a lachesis for that.
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>>148424684
Well, you did not spicified, so yea >>148424750 you gonna need to scram/point/bulkhead, remove everything related to ice ?
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>>148402001
>all of that
>can still be stopped by bubbles
>Still need to be babsat by a scout
>will get wrecked if you get caught be even one pirate

what a fucking waste.
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>>148426635
>being this much of a shitter
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>Medium Drone Control Range Augmentor I
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>>148428215
well when im carrying over 200mil in liquid ISL, id really like to guarantee my arrival at the market. is that so wrong? I dont want to put in work and then get it blown up.
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>>148428510
>fit mwd
>fit cloak

is this so difficult
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>>148428574
you cant use either in a bubble, especially when you're scrammed and jammed.
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>>148428616
why the fuck would you let anyone lock you, what are you doing
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>>148428616
You've already fucked up pretty bad if you put yourself in that situation.
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>>148428779
because people gatecamp the gates that im jumping through? are just fucking with me? You cant warp out of a bubble, you cant use MWD/JD when scrammed, you cant DO anything but take a beating and if there is enough DPS you will get wrecked.
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>mfw this faggot wants a ship that's bubble immune, covops (preferably cloaks automatically because pressing buttons is hard), and with a massive cargo
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>>148429530
interceptors are immune to bubbles, all im saying is it only takes one dick to ruin your happy day of space trucking. its my money, its my shit, i need to get it gone so i can profit.

and what part of "you cant cloak in a bubble" is beyond your comprehension?
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>and what part of "you cant cloak in a bubble" is beyond your comprehension?
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>leave me alone so I can pretend I'm a space truck driver all day
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>>148430075
i am more than a big truck. i harvest planets, and explore the space. and even kill the bad guy and take his shit. I got a lot of shit and im in the backwater nowhere of shitville space and cant sell a damn thing. ive got over 300mil liquid isk, and will probably have more than three times that buy the time i can fly t2 indy. so yeah, i reaally would like that money to be in my wallet by the time i get home.
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>small t1 haulers: no cargo
>big t1 haulers: no fitting lol xD
>BR: cargo immunity fuck you up
>DST: bare minimum for actual hauling in HISEC
>freighter: fucking lol
>JF: full time hauling only or corp asset

>outside of HS it all dies to a rifter because the defenses are either nonexistant or a total joke

BALANCED GAEM Xdd
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>le smug greentext meme post from a total shitter who knows absolute fuck all
>>
It's almost as if the game is an MMO and it's recommended to do certain things in groups
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>denying the truth
>>
>6 lines of nonsense
>truth
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>he keeps denying it
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>>148430339
>ive got over 300mil liquid isk

Wow man, you must be a big player in the hauling game.
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yes I'm denying it. I've already spoonfed you plenty, I'm out
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>>148430573
the cargo space is so limited, i cant imagine i can get more liquid in a single run. I know im space poor, but i just cant seem to bring in the mega money. PI and Exploration dont pay well if im not a multiboxing faggot.
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>>148430835
Since you aren't making any money anyway you may want to take the time to learn from others before you make any big mistakes.

Or don't, your choice.
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>>148431020
well give some advice, oh great master of hauling.
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>>148431278
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Hauling
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>>148431369
>http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Hauling
already read it. Didnt tell me anything that i didnt already know.
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>>148431369
>lies
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>>148431278
Stop shitting on dsts when you don't understand their strengths for a start.

You don't have to haul your own stuff anyway. There are industrial corps that you can contract things to, but it will cost you.
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>>148431548
>this guy read the UniWiki

how can i take your word for it when you just spout what you read on the internet? and since you seem to know its strengths, why dont you tell me some personal experiences with the ship?
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>the only times I felt something even remotely close to having fun playing EVE was 5 years ago, since back then I was able to finish my monthly PLEX grind in ~60 hours and actually do fun stuff the remaining 5 days of the month

I deeply regret picking up those 10 free days. Should have remained unsubbed.
Fuck you CCP for sending me those offers.
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>fun
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>>148431670
I'm not even the one who linked the uni wiki.

Are we still talking high sec hauling or are you interested in something else?
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have a buzzard for exploring, used the eve uni fit and i'm wondering if i'll ever use the salvager. any ideas for another hi-slot mod that would be more useful, especially in low/nul sec?
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>>148430835

>the cargo space is so limited

What the fuck are you hauling? Just a couple of days ago I hauled half a billion in a Wreathe, and barely used 300 m3.

If you're trying to do hauling contracts and hauling contracts only for muh space trucking, then just stop while you're ahead and accept the fact that haulers get paid a fucking pittance because there's freighters in each region that hoard any contract they see that they can fit in their freighter and then do them all at once. You will be lucky if you can find a contract for more than 1.5 mil/jump unless you're hardcore and are doing JF contracts.

I have been flying T1 indies for fucking ever. T2s are nice but a Mammoth and Wreathe can get everything you need done yourself without having to rely on shitters in freighters taking an entire day to move your load 4 jumps. A properly fitted Wreathe can tell lowsec gatecamps to lolfuckyourself and if you scout and use map stats, you can safely navigate null with it too.

And no, I don't multibox, I'm on one account.
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>have to sweat our way through several-hour-long-boring-ass-motherfucking-missions constantly refreshing d-scan with 100% of our in-game wealth on the line
>get bullied over it, harassed and preyed upon; with a single mtu loss setting us back so far, that it takes months to recover, since there's barely any isk leftover
>constantly under pressure: one mistake - even through no fault of our own - renders us completely unable to ever get back to playing the game, permanently K.O.
>and it keeps going: several times a day, every single day in a month, for god knows how long and no end in sight
>all of this just to earn our pitiful, destitute stay solely to be able to keep doing it
>literally slaves.
And yet somehow, instead of pity, all we receive from the playerbase is hate.
Why?


Signed - 2nd worst type of player in eve
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>have to
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>>148432706
The salvager is useless. There isn't much you can do with the third high slot anyway. I have no idea why the buzzard is so popular.
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>>148433625
>implying there's any other solo highsec non-afk activity
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>>148433557
dscanning in high sec? wut? if people are going to try to kill you anyway, might as well be not in high sec
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>he doesn't dscan everywhere
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>>148434010
It wasn't a thing until recently.
Mission runner abuse seems to be a sport nowadays.
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>>148387957
buhuhu this game is not a griefer enabler simulation anymore buhuhu :(((

>>148405962
This
ED is actually a game that requires some skill, as opposed to EvE where the number of accounts you control determine your power level
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>>148432409
>hauling
>in hi-sec

the only reason im in hi-sec unironically is so that i can sell my shit. otherwise, im in null, and lowsec.
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>>148434258
The griefers who've been ruining this game since 2006 or so are running out of targets

Mission running while spamming dscan: wow much amazing gameplay, thanks CCP!
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>>148433445
im hauling for myself and myself alone. Im not space trucking, and im not trying to make money with hauling. I just want to get my things to market. but ill take your advice. ive only ever used t1 indys, but im dealing with a lot more money and a lot more gatecamp than before. Im being extra cautious.

>>148434010
why doyou assume missions are only in hisec?
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>>148435070
>why doyou assume missions are only in hisec?
he said
>Signed - 2nd worst type of player in eve
that means hes a high sec ratter
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>go afk
>come back
>hauling guy is still retarded
>>
>go to work
>come home
>/dog/ is still retarded
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>>148435070

Depending on what youre doing, investing in a BR might be worth it. I don't usually go into null with my Wreathe but it CAN do it if you take precautions, it may also be safer to huff it for a bit and take multiple trips to drop your stuff off in a lowsec system, and only then use a T1 to haul it the rest of the way to a market.

Also always remember that you have Jitawhores like me checking regions on EVECentral for good trades, and we will go to you and pick up your shit from a local market for you if the price is worth it.
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>>148436282
>Also always remember that you have Jitawhores like me checking regions on EVECentral for good trades, and we will go to you and pick up your shit from a local market for you if the price is worth it.
People still do that? I always found it not worth it. Most of the time it's like 200-500k per jump.
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>>148436605
Sometimes it's worth it. About an hour or so ago I made 18m off an 8 jump trip I found on eve-central.
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>18m
>worth
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>>148437097
People generally pay around 1m per jump for courier contracts. Not comparable to some other isk-making activities, true, but it's pretty good for hauling.
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Has combat moved beyond "lock target, click orbit, fire guns" yet?

Is the only skill involved literally still just ship fitting and target selection?

when the fuck are they going to make pvp in this game fun
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>>148437097
Yeah, and then do 10+ contracts at once, plus tips.
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>>148437382
Skill in EvE: controlling multiple accounts at once to gank single-account players
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simply eric
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Is PL gonna kick brave out of querious?
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>she is an unironic elite solo pvpstress
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>>148436605

Are you talking about sell-buy trading? I dont do that, only scrublords do. I do sell-sell, so I look at the price you're selling it, compare it to Jita/Amarr/Dodixie prices, and if I feel like I can make a good profit buying from you and reselling at one of the hubs, I will. I usually get batches of trades per region and make about 200-300 million profit, more if I hit the jackpot.

It kind of sounds like Im trying to take you for a ride since Im buying your product at a cheap price and then flipping it at substantial markups. The truth is I am, I make a lot of money from price bubbles. However, Im also saving you from having to haul your ass to trade hubs if Im willing to go to your product myself.
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What is that drug called that can boost new character attributes?
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>>148440548
skill injector
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>>148440548
Prototype Cerebral Accelerator
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>>148376697
>minmatar
>minmatar
>gallente
>minmatar
>minmatar
niggers confirmed superiour
>>
niggers and sjws always win
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>>148414864
>>148411784
I noticed this as a rising meme

I don't like it, kys
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>>148440780
thanks
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>>148415907
thanks, been meaning to cruise a bit in that game again
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>>148441239
Thats all you gonna do because its empty, lol
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>>148437382
Generally it is a lot more than that, if you're an FC your tactic revolves around making sure your enemy is in your attack range at all times.
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>>148434709
>ED is actually a game that requires some skill, as opposed to EvE where the number of accounts you control determine your power level
>ED is better than EVE
>even though the games are so disimilar that their only similarities are space and space combat.
>ED: with no economy, price fixing and themepark elements, no player generated content, no sovereignty, no wars, all artificial bullshit
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>>148442105
>EvE: the sandbox in which players either run an alliance and do RMT with the taxes of their drones, or are drones making their leaders rich IRL
>ED economy is artificial, when EvE economy is based on moves big RMTers

Your "sandbox" : is a scam, buy multiple accounts to please your corp or play solo, and don't forget to help people doing RMT :^)
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>>148442584
>muh RMT meme
nice non-argument
>EVE's economy is for RMT
so I guess people making money in game is just synonymous with RMT

is buying low and selling high also "exploitative"? is it "cheating" too?
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>>148442584

So what about people like me that own only one account and still have fun and make enough money to plex each month?
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>>148443002
You don't count because I said so.

making money is cheating because I didn't make it.

EVE economy is unfair to me
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>>148441048
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>>148442758
>guys i'm selling "roses" for 10$ a pop
>omg why don't more unsuspecting people play this game, I need drones to pay taxes that I'll RMT, and PvE-fit ships to gank :(((
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>>148443067
>everything that defeats or goes against my narrative is RMT
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>>148443002
>so what about unicorns guys? they exist, I ride one!
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>isk efficiency
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>>148443047
>all time rank #1
>hurricane
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>>148443205

>being so much of a fucking scrub that you absolutely NEED to multibox to enjoy the game and get your PLEX

I don't have a problem with multiboxing, although I wish it was less prevalent, but holy fuck just go play Runescape if you're this much of a retard.
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>>148443175
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?18005-A-Rose-by-any-other-name
http://evenews24.com/2014/10/16/thoughts-on-clockwork-pineapples-alleged-rmt-operation/
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>>148443456
>alleged RMT
suspects aren't guilty

>my fringe buzzfeed articles prove that everyone is doing RMT
>EN24
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>>148443330
>flying in lowsec without a scout
>being stationcamped by wardec griefers without a secondary character to play while waiting
>running back and forth to a trade hub on your main, just because it's fun to truck around making zero isk while travelling, and exposing yourself
>>
opportunity cost :^)
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>>148443550
>I haven't read the links but deny anyway because I'm a griefer faggot who wants to attract people to his sociopathy simulator by saying it's not RMT-heavy
>scrapheap challenge is not a trustable source lol!
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>>148443880
I never denied RMT wasn't a thing, RMT is a thing in every MMO.

>EVE is RMT heavy
no its not

You're using RMT as a scape goat because you won't admit your fake "economy" and theme park MMO is garbage.

You have your own thread for ED, fuck off to there
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>>148443713

>needing scouts in lowsec because you dont know how to fit your haulers
>being stationcamped by MUH GRIEFFERS because you cant be assed to make undock bookmarks
>being in a shitty corp that gets wardec'd and gets their shit pushed in by faggots in the first place
>sitting in a station doing nothing while swapping characters again and again is better than flying around because muh exposure, muh risk, if im not earning muh 1% profit from selling my catalysts im not having fun :(

Go play Elite or Runescape. Pick whichever.
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>>148444052
>eve online
>"griefers"
>>
Just report him.
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>>148443970
Hey dipshit, I merely responded to >>148405962
I can understand how you're buttmad that ED does well, a game in which you can't grief playersir metagame the shit out of it
Braben and team has studied EvE I think, and understood that the RMT-loving, Schadenfreude-harvesting overweight angry neckbeards infesting EvE would flock to ED to disrupt it and get cheap kicks out of random joes
As a result, they didn't bother to create a player-to-player economy, and this was a really clever move.
tldr; griefing fucktards dug their own grave, just like Ultima Online was trammelized because of them: following MMOS nearly all followed suit, and separated servers by PvE and PvP :^)

>>148444052
>why would you fly anything that a hauler in lowsec??? lol you're looking for solo fights?????? e-bushido lmao XD XD XD
>I'm gonna mine in the system next door, thanks to my instadock bookmarks, campers will never see me!
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>>148443313
That's zkill's all-time rank

kind of superflous and useless information desu

zkill uses biased and arbitrary math to decide ship ranking using their scoring system
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>>148445191
It has nothing to do with "lessons learned from eve" at all.
>>
just
report
him
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>ED :^)
http://steamcharts.com/app/359320
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>doing Serpentis sites
>get DC'd
>log back in
>i'm in a pod
I'm slowly coming to terms with the fact that I'm never going to get anywhere in this game.
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>>148445191

What the fuck are you even going on about? I'm saying that this game is perfectly playable with only one account. Can you be more efficient with multiple? Of course. Does that mean you NEED them to do anything? No, not at all. I even said that I don't have a problem with multiboxing so I don't have the slightest idea why you're being a spastic trying to hammer in that it is an absolute must to constantly take scout alts around with you wherever you go.

>still with muh grieffers

So are you another Elite funposter and I'm just being bamboozled?
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>>148445774
That's reimbursable, ticket it.
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>Emergency downtime
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>>148446660
Wat? rly? I'm not online now. Did the event shit itself again?
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>>148445840
>I'm saying that this game is perfectly playable with only one account

Sure, if you enjoy losing time hauling, being unable to scout in order to avoid gatecamps if you fly anything bigger than a cruiser: this, if you're a non-belligerent asshole

Now, if you are a belligerent asshole, you NEED multiple accounts to:
-Spam scams in trade hubs
-Infiltrate corps, steal their assets, and have no reputation issue on your main
-Place eyes in neighboring systems, to watch for the once in a blue moon campbusters coming to remove your gatecamp
-Run lvl4 missions on your mission running alt, when the once in a blue moon campbuster fleet chooses to stationcamp your gatecaming fleet you have docked when seeing them approaching three systems away

>>148445724
EvE is 22k logged, with a very conservative average of 2+ accounts by players, that's only 2 to 3 times more players than ED, a game that is not 13 years old, and only getting better while EvE is desesperately trying to appeal to PvErs
I understand your mad tho :/
>>
>game playable with one accounts
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4st4cy/how_can_anyone_afford_to_play_this_game/
>Eve non-players know you need more than one account to play without committing suicide after a play session
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Recommend me a Garmur fit for PvE purposes.
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>>148445382
>"lessons learned from EvE"

If you play EvE: get multiple accounts
If you're an MMO dev: don't let griefers run amok (unless you get your share of their alts' RMT :DDD)
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>griefing
>bad

I bet you don't even praise kek.
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>cluster shutdown
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>>148446790

With the rate of player falloff, and even accounting for temporary spikes in players when they release terrible updates, Elite on Steam will be dead in about a year and a half unless they do something to fix their player retention issues. A lot of their players don't play on Steam, so I estimate 3 - 5 years until Frontier shelves Elite for good.

Trust me, Frontier trying to keep "grieffers" out of the game is not the reason that game is dropping like a rock.
>>
>Servers back up

Go back to station spinning faggets.
>>
What is the best travelceptor for avoiding gatecamps?
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>>148447893
>Trust me, Frontier trying to keep "grieffers" out of the game is not the reason that game is dropping like a rock.

I know, which only goes to show how keeping griefers out of the game is harmless at worst, and a very good idea at best

Edgy neckbeards and play-to-win types already grinded a few billions, so now they're bored and left
Remaining players are cool trucking space dads and are in it for the long run :^)

Multicrew and FPS will up this game a whole lot
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>Scope sites disappeared

Are you fucking kidding me.
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>>148448637
Ares iirc
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>>148448760
alright, bought a malediction instead.
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>>148448637
raptor
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>>148446874
If it's for the event, do a Daredevil or Worm.
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>travel ceptor
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>>148450541
its for traveling.
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>Gatecamping
>>
>check twitch
>ED top streamer has 24 watchers
lmao

Also why the fuck is Bjorn in play hard. Jesus fuck that reddit gang couldn't get more gayer.
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you need more than one account to avoid gatecamps. how this is balanced or good for the game is beyond me.

>hurrr why are we losing so many players? Where did it all go wrong?
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>twitch
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>milennials trying to comprehend EVE
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>>148450908

Should billboards show the other side of a gate?
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>>148451059
that's would actually b p cool. a little OP so give it like a 10-15 minute delay
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>>148451059
Lmao, thats actually a good idea.

>>148451153
Not even map is that slow.
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>he died to a gatecamp
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>>148451231
map is 60 minutes
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>I only fly cloaky ships milady
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>I'm shit at eve
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>>148451059
Ask yourself why such a simple and elegant idea is not implemented

Might it have something to do with selling multiple accounts?
>>
fuck off with your restarts, ccp
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>>148451551
>selling
You sem to be under the impression that people pay for their alts.
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>>148451753
>he doesn't understand basic economics
>Thinks plexes are made from thin air and not just simply introducing a middleman into the equation of paying CCP
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>tfw simple and elegant solution to gatecamps
>tfw its gitting gud
>tfw players will never use such an abstract solution in eve
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>>148451897
she the typa nigga that puts Wiccan under the religion section of facebook
>>
>"expansion" happens
>gatecamping becomes easier and more risk free

>gitgud lol

>>repeat every couple of years
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>he had years to git gud
>he didn't git gud

kreydis m8, whats wrong
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>kreydis
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>amarr
>industrials
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>he doesn't fly a prorator
>mfw prowlerfags
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>check ED general
>daaaad
>grieeeeef
Jesus fuck
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>his blockade runner can't carry 13795m3
>>
PL invasion starts tonight. They're doing a moveop to put all their assets into the broski querious station after a scout fleet heads out tonight around 0100 - 0200 eve time.
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How do I tick more than 40m in a fckng carrier
>>
>tick
>>
>he doesn't realize dreads are the new ratting meta with their subcap guns
>>
>>148457838
>What is a Siege module
pleb
>>
HAW Titan 460m/h
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>>148456925
what is PL? is /eog/ gonna go in and fuck shit up?
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>>148456925
Good thing I got all my shit out of brave space last night after an avatar and a few nyxs were spotted.
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>>148458207
its the /eog/ feeder alliance
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>>148458207
>is /eog/ gonna go in and fuck shit up?
top kek
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>pl's face when plate rep beam omen fleet shows up
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CAN I PUT A SHIP WITH STUFF INSIDE THE CARGO IN A SHIP MAINTENANCE BAY OR NOT
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>>148458207
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>>148458207
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>>148459218
>CAN I PUT A SHIP WITH STUFF INSIDE THE CARGO IN A SHIP
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>>148459218
Before jump freighters were a thing people loaded up a carrier with cargo expanded haulers
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>>148460882
That's neat.
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>>148460576
>>148460882
I can put a ship fitted in a maintenance bay but I cant put a ship with stuff in the cargo

Where's the logic
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>>148458207
PL is a low tier scrub alliance of vultures who prey on weak alliances, /eog/ likes to bully them because they're easy targets and are thoroughly infiltrated by eog spies who drop all the best Intel here.
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need some critique on this fit. I was put on the task of making a corp doctrine and since we are an Amarr RPing corp this seems good to me
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>>148461407
>beam
>10MN ab
>Scram
>Medium Armor rep
>T1 rigs
>amarr
>RP
>good

Am I doing it right, /eog/ ?
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>>148461584
ok thanks for your constructive feedback, asshole. You're not helping at all. This fit was recommended to me and from what i see in pyfa it seems fine, but I want to get a second opinion
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if i fart hard enough, do you think i could propel harder than a 500mn?
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>>148461407
Thats a garbage fit

What you have it fit for is what the Miller does but better

The omen is meant for high speed kiting with long range lasers
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>>148461927
except when it's not
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>>148461927
Also don't fit a rapper with a plate it's fucking retarded

Also why 3 membranes? Thr stacking penalty is huge it'd be better to use flavor membranes or more dps or tracking enhancers
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>>148461927
>The omen is meant for high speed kiting with long range lasers
hence why there is beams
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>>148462041
The Maller is superior for a short range brawny ship. It actually has the power grid for a 1600 plate
>>148462085
Those beams have garbage range
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>>148461734
>seems fine
You have no tank tour buffer is shit

You have 3 fucking membranes on there and it's not thoroughly covering up the hole

You have a repairer on there that doesn't rep for Jack shit. 120dps is what a fight of bonuses hobgoblins do.

Drop the plate or drop the repairer

Add more heats inks or tracking enhancers

Change up the membranes so they don't stack as hard
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>>148462382
faster ship doesn't mean kiting
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>>148462639
the resits seem more than fine to me ranging from 50-60% percent. that's about what you owuld expect for a pvp boat

dropping the membranes would dropped those resist so I don't think you know what you are talking about.

and there is tank buffer in here. HELLO? don't see the plate?
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>>148462783
It has 3 mods and way higher speed

It has no affinity it to brawl at all because the Maller is superior for that role

Fit the omen with heavy pulse lasers, a microwarp drive and an ancillary armor repairer in the lows. Nanofiber and heat sinks with a tracking enhancer or two to give you more range

Midlothian are your microwarp drive a warp disruptor and a cap booster to keep it all running
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>>148462835
Your buffer is garbage because your mixing a fucking repairer with a dinky 800mm plate

If you really want to brawl you use a 1600mm plate with appropriate hardener and membranes to bolster even higher resists and avoid stacking penalties
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>>148463184
you can't fit the 1600 plate tho. This omen fit can't. And the repper there is to regenerate the HP while the 800 plate is buffer so you don't get one shotted off the field.

I can't tell if you are trolling or genuinely don't know how to fit a ship.
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>>148463526
>you can't fit the 1600 plate tho.
You fit an ancillary current router

>the rapper is to regenerate hp
You don't rep for shit you barely negate a flight of drones. You rep less than a dedicated ripping ship does and there is no risk of getting one shot even without a plate you have like 1700 base armor which is more than enough
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>>148463010
to say that the omen is only meant to do your scorch kiting trash fit is pretty terrible
these are ships that can do a lot of different fits
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>>148463870
>You fit an ancillary current router
that negates a rig slot that I was using for armor, we are back to square one. It equalizes.

You don't rep for shit you barely negate a flight of drones. You rep less than a dedicated ripping ship does and there is no risk of getting one shot even without a plate you have like 1700 base armor which is more than enough

amor doesn't regenerate. THis repper does what the shield drake does and regenerates the HP that otherwise wouldn't be there and we would've wasted time going to a station and reparing
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>>148464229
>it's terrible
>no reasons listed at all

Nice one you chuckle fuck got a real rebuttal hidden up your ass?

Go ahead try brawling with the omen, the Maller will kick your ass every time
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>>148464741
>hurr reasons

the reasons are because it's shit and you have no range or tank obviously
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>haha i can come up with a ship+fit that counters yours! youres is shit!!!
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I heard there were a tactics which let you earn 300kk isk easy by killing BS on noob ship by staying under him so that he can't attack you. Is this shit fixed and not viable now? Also anyone remember how was this called?
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>>148464274
My fit with a 1600mm fit has superior buffer

>much wasted time
You seriously couldn't put 30 seconds into docking and repairing the u docking again?

Did you not bring logi at all? Even if you didn't you didn't bring logi drones?

This omen has no buffer and no rep power

None of your made up reasons and bullshit and tribulations of >wah I don't wanna dock
As some kind of excuse to force this bullshit fit that's gonna get dunked by a thorax or Maller is retarded
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>>148464916
>no range

Superior range to your quad beam lasers

>no tank
It's kiting it needs to go fast getting caught means your dead anyway
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>>148465008
>my fit
>posts no fit

Look, fagot, I came here for contructive critiques of the fit and so far no one has provided any of it.
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>>148424173
>>148424684
>skiff
>shield extender
god you guys are fucking retarded, i'll do you a favor and post a not shit fit thats acutally made for fucking people up

[Skiff, JIFFY SKIFFY]

Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Drone Navigation Computer II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II

Strip Miner I

Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
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>>148465228
Plug this in

5x focused medium pulse laser ii

10mn t2
Scram
Web

1600mm plate
Explosive membrane
Energized adaptive nanomembrane
Heatsink
Heatsindamage control

Medium trimark armor pump
Medium trimark armor pump
Ancil current router
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Just moved 4b of assets to HS, felt like a mexican cartel moving his drugs.
PL can come. I will not leave my station.
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>>148465198
>your

no, I didn't post a fit

>It's kiting

kys desu, lots of ships have range. if you think you can outrange everyone with your 20km pulse lasers then lol you must've not undocked in 5 years. you could maybe make that argument that you'll just be kiting everything and staying completely out of everything's range if you were using beams and range stuff, but with pulses it's not possible
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>>148465471
>pulse lasers

no thanks, you are obviously here to troll when I explicitly stated I was looking for beam fits.
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>>148465787
Fine then swap out the focused pulses for focused beams

Then change the afterburner for a compact and change the 1600mm to a restrained version
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>>148465679
I fucked you're are waifu.
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>>148466118
ok you think this would let me kill bralwers?
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who /sun bounce/ here
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>>148466608
Jesus christ youre just pretending to be retarded right?
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>>148467021
you told me to fucking fit the 1600 and the nanos to be a kiting faggot and now you tell me this isn't a good fit?

Fuck you.
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>>148467021
Jesus has nothing to do in this conversation Anon.
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>>148467190
>not accepting Jesus into your life
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Dramiel for solo/duo roams? Cost effective or just a bad idea?

Maybe get some fit recommendations?
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>>148461230
you can put ammo and other charges in

or if you put an epithal in you can fill its special bay, same with the miasmos/kryos/hoarder/primae/other
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>pirate ship
>cost effective

no. it's sort of usable in null, but don't even bother for low

try a vigil fleet issue instead, it's cheaper and easier and has a long web
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pirate ships are a fucking meme when you can easily use a Tech I ship just as well
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>>148471041
>>148471440
Yeah, I have had in dock for ages and just wanted to find a use for it.
Honestly I will probably just go roam in a condor.
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>>148472216
if you are one of those richfags that P2W this game like a cuck then I guess you could afford to just toss pirate ships like their are T1s otherwise yeah, use a T1.
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>>148472694
Im just a returning player looking to finally shed my carebear wings. I've been doing a lot of reading the past week on how to find some pvp action and improve my chances but its damn irritating how outdated most of the sources I find are.
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>>148474450
just watch Suitonia's video on youtube they are perfect for a returning or new player
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>>148466608
holy shit you are fucking retarded

this fit > your shit 800mm + repper fit
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>>148467178
>>148466608
don't ask for fitting advice on /eog/, ever
btw the fit is absolute shite, you cant kite in armor and neither should you EVER fit inertial stabiliries for pvp. some nano is obvviously fine but not this heavily armor tanked + anyone that gets a scram on you instatly wins b
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>>148466608
and this fit with an active tank is superior to your retarded 800mm and repper fit
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>>148475730
explain to me how this retarded cuckold of a fit is better than mine. A fucking merling can get under its guns and kill this piece of shit. There's not even a repper
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>you can't kite in armor

this kind of shit advice is why you don't ask for fitting advice on /eog/
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>>148475920
Hes a fucking retard that thinks he needs "armor regeneration" in the middle of PVP

>>148475982
superior buffer, higher resists, longer range weapons.

>a fucking merlin getting under your guns
drones are more than adequate, and the tracking on those weapons is high enough that a merlin is no issue with gleam. Get your head out of your ass
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>tfw practiced MWD trick but never used it when i needed it
>tfw jumping into Uedama with 10 ships sitting on the gate
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>>148476116
Yea it's a little difficult to do at first

Try it with any ship in any other place I Highsec until you get the feel for it

Remember to never use prop mod first, always cloak first
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>mfw only people who use pyfa post shitfits
>pyfa
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>>148476567
Just proving that min maxing is always superior to mixing repairers and plates
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>>148476386

Yeah I did it successfully, thank god. Didn't get scanned at all. Always spooks me because it drains my capacitor so I'm always afraid that I'm not going to have enough juice to make the jump all the way, but I guess all that matters is getting off the gate.
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>proving

you aren't proving shit

>min maxing

you aren't min maxing shit
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so whats your favorite citadel name youve seen? mines Pee Pee & Gas in Tintoh
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>>148477381
none because I'm not an edgy autist
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>>148476796
>you aren't proving shit
my ship has better buffer than yours
>you aren't minmaxing shit
maximizing my buffer and maximizing my rep power in both of those fits respectively. Your fit does neither and is garbage because of it
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>>148477738
you don't know what my fit is, but a decent plate + rep fit has a much more practical tank for small gang roaming

lol @ ab scram beams btw
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>>148478424
>much more practical tank
no it doesn't
>small gang
good luck getting clobbered because your dinky plate gives you no tangible buffer and your repper doesn't negate a flight of light drones.
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>>148477678
alright whats your 2nd favorite then
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>>148478624
yes it does

>ancil
>doesn't negate a flight of light drones

>no tangible buffer

are you retared
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>>148478424
>hey guys this is my fit can I bring it?
>anon why do you have a 1600mm plate and a fucking medium armor rep
>so I can rep my buffer in the middle of a fight
>anon we're bringing 2 logi you don't need a repper
>well hurr durr muh fit is better for small gang

>hey guys can I bring this fit?
>anon why are you fitting a 1600mm and a medium armor repairer
>so I can repair my buffer in the middle of a fight and muh armor regeneration
>anon you barely rep 100dps this is garbage
>no fuck you its real
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>>148479027
>an ancil armor repper is an active module because I said so
>even though I'll never live long enough to get a reload off

you're literally treating an ancil repper as a buffer over time module and you think its an active tank regardless. So you gimp your fit instead of having extra resists or extra damage so you can have this dumb fit where you mix an 800mm plate and a repper so you can do this dumb hybrid shit that you never get the full benefit from.

You really wonder why NO one does this.

inb4 "hurr everyone does meme fits" or some garbage

no one does it because it doesn't work and they don't get anything out of it that wouldn't be superior with either a fit for max repair or max buffer
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>>148479120
>anon why do you have dual reps when we'll be facing more than 400 dps and you'll die in 10 seconds

>anon why do you have a pure armour buffer on a roaming ship
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>>148479306
>dual reps
>400dps
I easily exceed that with a ship that doesn't get resist or armor repairer bonus
>>148475956
and thats without drugs or implants or even links.

>you'll die in 10 seconds
>even though you have more than enough base armor to last 20 and you're somehow not preloading your repair for when you start taking damage anyway.

>pure buffer on a roaming ship
because you'll last longer, stay on field longer and put out more damage longer than your retarded plate+ repper fit.
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>>148479302
armor doesn't repair over time like a shield does, so having a repper is miles better because you can repair while in fight and after the fight

how the fuck can you disprove that
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>>148479302
>an ancil armor repper is an active module because I said so
>even though I'll never live long enough to get a reload off

explain how a thing that you activate and uses cap is passive

and why does it need to get a reload off, are you retarded

the actual reason why nobody does this is because you only fly gay shit like gilas or logi blobs, so the optimal small gang omen fit never comes up
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>>148479521
>armor doesn't repair over time like a shield does
so
>so having a reppers is miles better so you can repair while in a fight
you don't even negate one flight of light drones, you'll die because you have garbage buffer and garbage reps
>after the fight
you fucking dock up or get logi or logi drones you stupid knob
>how the fuck can you disprove that
because I bet you have like 10 of these loss mails with omen's or thorax's with 1600mm plates and medium armor repairers
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>>148479669
>explain how a thing that you activate and uses cap is passive
You're effectively using it as a buffer over time module the same way that the shield ancil ones do

People don't live long enough ever to survive the 60 second reload which is why they treat the ancil repper as a buffer module. They often don't even bring a reload of cap boosters or nanite paste for the repper anyway because they know once their 8 charges are gone their buffer is over and they'll die if they haven't won already.

>the actual reason why no one does this is because everyone flies gay shit and uses logi
sounds like you didn't bring logi because you thought a medium armor repairer was better than an energized adaptive nano membrane.
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>>148479794
>you don't even negate one flight of light drones
then just kill the fucking drones dude what the FUCK lol
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>>148479995
>lol just kill the 5 flights of drones that are around me from enemy ships
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>>148479942
yes I'm treating it as buffer over time

and no, this nonsense you're saying about reloads is not relevant. you're phrasing this all like an obection when really you have nothing

>sounds like you didn't bring logi

well yeah why the fuck else would I be fitting a local rep, it's for small gang
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>anon wheres your repairer

>>148480198
>umm you have nothing because its nonsense but I can't think of a reason why so I'll just say it is because I think its irrelevant.

Even one ancil repper won't negate the DPS of a medium flight of drones which 75% of cruisers get inherently.

Your buffer won't last because you have garbage EHP, you'll get out DPS'd because your repper is shit

And then you'll cry on here and shitpost about how your fit is really good and everyone else telling you you're wrong and all your loss mails aren't evidence of it being a shitfit. Everyone laughing at your retarded "small gang" fleet that doesn't include even the smallest bit of logi because you think docking up is simply TOO FUCKING HARD to repair.

>its small gang
>10 guys, 8 are DPS, 2 are logi
>no its not small gang it can't be
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>mfw omen plebs
>mfw dual prop and dual rep elite sfi pvp
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>>148480479
>muh negate

who cares, it's hp

your 1600 plate won't permatank a flight of medium drones either. how do you still not get this. the rep will empty before the ship dies, which means effectively it has given you about the same time to kill stuff or get out or whatever. this shit about reloads really is just you being retarded. the fact that you are able to reload is just another advantage of having the rep, it's not a thing you do while being shot at

>docking up
>in wormhole space
>in nullsec
>in the many lowsec systems without stations
>anywhere while on the run from a blob
>during a skirmish

so basically you just can't ever undock without 2 logi and think anyone who doesn't bring 2 logi is a shitter
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>hey guys rate my fit
>anon thats garbage, why are you fitting an ancil rep with a large shield extender
>because I can rep in battle
>anon you can't negate one ship's worth of DPS what the fuck are you doing just put on a second shield extender or something
>no you see I took this one guy's advice on /eog/ and he told me to fit buffer and active tank
>anon if DPS is too high for just 340 dps, you'll never last long enough ever to use all the charges let alone see a reload
>no that doesn't matter
>anon just fuck off and fit an adaptive or a second LSE, we're bringing 2 logi anyway. Besides your fit would be better if you minmaxed with max rep or max buffer, not both
>NO UR SCRUBS THE GUYS DOWN AT /eog/ KNOW BEST
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>>148480897
my buffer will last longer than yours which means I stay on field longer and I put down more DPS
my logi reps are always superior to your retarded single fits. You still seriously wonder why no one does this not even solo ships

>MUH WERM HOLZ
>MUH NULL
>oh hey anon you're damaged let me rep you I brought extra logi drones
>thanks senpai
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>>148480920
you are hung up on some bullshit that your FC told you to keep you simple mind at ease but there is legit nothing wrong with that fit and you get the benefit of repping during the fight AND after the fight especially behind enemy lines.
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>>148480920
shield is not armour, just go full buffer on shield

>>148481096
>so basically you just can't ever undock without 2 logi and think anyone who doesn't bring 2 logi is a shitter

kys no arguments kun
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>>148481158
You are hung up on some bullshit that a guy in /eog/ told you to keep your basic thinking skills at bay but there is legit evidence of all your shit being bad and I imagine you have a huge list of lossmails with 800mm plated medium armor rep omens
>rep during the fight
>die on the 5th charge because my EHP negated is trash.
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>>148481284
>no argument to retort with
>just says "kys"
kek

>anon someone is gonna put one fight of medium drones on you and your repper is immediately going to be overwhelmed
>NO UR A FUCKING.... FUCK CHRIST JUST KILL YOUR SELF THAT DOESNT COUNT AND ITS IRRELEVANT AND IT DON'T MATTER
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>>148481456
I don't need to write out more of the same words that you won't/can't read

it's pretty clear that you won't work out how to get the ancil rep's ehp and then add it to your ship's ehp
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>>148481624
>I don't need to spew more nonsense about how my retarded fit actually does work even though theres mounds of evidence to how its bad and no one does it
>its pretty clear I'm forgeting I'm gonna die before I even get my 8th cycle off and I really should have replaced that repper with an adaptive to cover my bases more
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>lol anon wheres your repairer
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>>148481798
>no my dual rep fit has plenty of hp
>but your plate rep fit has no hp

kys
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>>148482005
your buffer is literally gonna be negated by a flight of drones
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>lol anon wheres your 1600mm plate
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>>148482178
120dps spread out over 150k EHP is gonna take 20 minutes to break my tank

>>148482164
because instead of an extra resist module you took the opportunity cost and put on a medium armor repairer that gave you less EHP overall because of your lack of resists comparatively.
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>>148482164
>I don't understand why my plate with max resists gets more buffer when I drop a resist for a repper

>I don't understand why my active tank with max resists gets more DPS tanked than when I drop a repper for a plate
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>>148482346
>because instead of an extra resist module you took the opportunity cost and put on a medium armor repairer that gave you less EHP overall because of your lack of resists comparatively.

you want to talk about opportunity cost? Putting that repper saved me the time it would've taken me to go back to the station and repair when I could just do it in the middle of battle and after the battle.
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>>148482535
>hahaha I tank way less and burn way more cap
>but at least I don't have to take 20 seconds and dock
>I can repair to full in the middle of battle, OH SHIT a group of hobgoblins are stopping me from repairing
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>>148450886
If you weren't some newfag fresh in from reddit desperate to fit in you'd know the CEO of his corp is an old friend from Love Squad.
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>>148482346
>instead of an extra resist module

no, it's instead of your non-ancillary rep

kys

>>148482485
>I don't understand why low efficiency modules (non-ancillary reps) are undesirable
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>hey anon wheres your repper
>I don't need one
>hahaha how are you gonna repair
>I can dock
>no you're not allowed to do that, its a waste of time and its just not fair
>ok then I'll bring a mobile depot with a medium armor rep on my cargo for after the fight
>NO ANON YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT
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rate my fit m8s
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>guys wait up I need to go 3 jumps to a station so I can rep and then also come back
>so that'll be 10 minutes total since I'm in a bc

>it's not a waste of time or anything, this guy on /eog/ says so
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>>148483106
lol anon wheres your plate. You're gonna get OHK'd by this imaginary tornado thats gonna uncloak
>>
Amazing amount amount of shitposting today.

Anyone know any good caldari systems for trolling carebears and mission flipping?
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>>148484453
Uedama.
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>>148484453
uttindar
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>>148484453
Osmon
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>>148484453

Jita
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>>148483106
A better meme is basically the same but with a Cynabal, the extra mid lets you have a web
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>>148487010
plate rep cynabal is better
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>guise you have no pg to spare for an actual plate but if you put a 400m on your cruiser it's much better xd just drop your eanm you don't need resists LOL
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>he doesn't have powergrid management 5
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>he doesn't have AWU5
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>omg it doesnt fit even with all 5s but you should fit it anyway who cares that instead of doing one type of tank well you will be doing both poorly there MIGHT be invisible tornado gangs that would volley you regardless of your 400mm plate!
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>autists sperging out about plates or some shit

>>148487665
With what PG or lowslot retard? Cynabal has 1 less low for an extra mid and a utility high for a neut or nos.
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>>148488634
>lowslot

the one you have your ineffective non-ancillary rep in

>pg

get good
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>>148488754
>ineffective
Get a load of this retard.
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>>148488938
>I only have 5 lows
>lemme blow 2 of my 5 lows on some retarded 1600mm plate and an ancil repper even though I don't have the cap or PG for these things
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>>148483097
>1 neut
Are you for real? You're giving up the whole point of the Hurricane.
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>>148489398
Thank you for reiterating my point for me a plate IS a waste of a slot.

>what are cap boosting?
>5 muds??? no cap boosting!!
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>>148489416
not enough PG or CPU for a second neut
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>>148488938
>it reps 100 dps for massive cap usage it's totally a great module
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>>148489464
cynabals are commonly shield tanked
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Thank you for admitting you're a giant retard who only min maxes on pyfa and has never actually flown a ship.

>>148489632
Go back to 2012
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>>148489553
listen you obviously don't know about that cloaky tornado thats gonna one shot you from across the grid

don't you wanna rep in battle?
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>>148489747
You've confused who you're arguing with dumbass
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>>148489720
>my fit works
>please ignore all my lossmails
>please ignore how few fucking lowslots I have to do this retarded fit
>please ignore my lack of PG
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>>148489720
>you've never flown a fit until you've tried my garbage shitfit
>watch as I mix a 1600mm plate with a medium armor repper
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>>148489850
So you admit that a Cynabal can't fit a plate and it's a waste of a slot?
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>>148489972
Yes I am agreeing with you
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>>148489956
Holy shit you giant retards, I'm saying NOT to fit a plate /eog/ really is the worst fucking general on this chinese cartoon torrent tracker
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>>148490086
[/sarcasm]
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>>148490203
[reddit]
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>>148489747
>cloaky tornado

since you're such a shitfitter I wouldn't put it past you to fly this. your cloaky tornado probably has dual reps as well
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>>148490285
3 reps and a 400mm plate incase theres another cloaky tornado looking at me
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>>148433745
It looks cool. The amarr and gayllente cov-ops ships look super gay.
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>>148490285
>that one guy that has never heard of cloaky nados camping gates
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>asymmetrical ship
>looks cool
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>>148437382
No, go play CS:GO and leave us alone.
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>cloaky nados
>warp a fenrir past them before they can even lock you
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>>148489510
>I don't know how to downgrade the plate to a tungsten and use PG implants
>>
>ebin cloaky ninja decloaks to solo me in his pilgrim or soe ship or t3c
>I just warp off because it's not a bomber and can't even begin locking for like 10 seconds
>>
Do you guys remember when star citizen was going to destroy EVE?
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>>148491261
the only thing it destroyed was the hopes and dreams of the people who funded it
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>>148491261
>50 million dollars and 4 years later and they STILL don't have a working game, just a hangar walking simulator and a flying portion
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>>148424684
>>148424173
>3 adaptive invulns
>fuckn wew lad
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>some obvious autist ratting in a rattlesnake named after some shitty anime "waifu"
>get on him in a pilgrim
>he starts spamming in local about how I can't lock him for the next 5 seconds and that he won
>didn't notice the 26 redeemers portal through and lock him instantly
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>>148491237
>14 killmarks on my blaster Prospect
>cloaking V so decloak delay is 5 seconds
>approach cloaked turn on prop at decloak
>2 scrams
>option for team of yahoos to join in
Get fucked smug a shit.
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>battleship
>lock instantly
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>>148491618
gives better resists than 3 individual hardeners
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>blaster prospect

what the fuck, I'm staying docked until this gets fixed
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>>148491715
the pilgrim gets a bonus to the penalty to cloak targeting recalibration, if any other ship that had no recon/blops properties did that they'd have to wait upwards of 12 seconds or more to even start targeting
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>what is a sensor booster? you can't lock a battleship instantly if you have a sensor booster OMG HACKS CCPLS

>>148492057
What does that have to do with the Redeemers using their jump drives?
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>sensor booster

>amarr
>mids

>what is a shitfit
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>>148491943
Also gives better resists than wearing a ballgown and high-heels while i shoot you but the 3rd is nerfed to shit and a waste of a slot.
>also, dat cap use
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>4 mids

>sebo
>mjd
>heavy scram
>cap booster
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>no mwd
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>he needs a mwd
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>>148492227
What else would you fit? No one is going to get in scram/web/disruptor range.

Literally what else?

Also its cap stable, you aren't going to be able to fight neuts anyways. I'll take ways to improve the fit though. Keep in mind that I'm only concerned about it operating in a unit of 9 alts and 1 commander skiff that controls the assigned drones.
>>
>mining
>needing a mwd
What a bunch of fucking shitters in here
>>
>mining

I thought we were talking about how shit anon is at blops
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>>148492789
Well he actually needs a mwd on his blops so he must be fucking terrible
>>
>>148492227
If I do 3 hardeners, an EM, Therm and Kinetic hardener, I get less resists than if I had 3 adaptive invulns
>cap usage
individual hardeners use the same cap.

30% to omni resist x 3 - stacking penalty is better than 55% to each resist. the third adaptive gives 75% its effectiveness while the second gives 90% its effectiveness. Unlike EANM's where the resist bonus is low enough that 3 individual flavor membranes are better than 3 adaptive nano membranes, the adaptive invuln is superior where the resist bonus overcomes the stacking penalty greater
>>
no it's you who is terrible

you probably meme fit your blops so it has less tank than a plate rep omen
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>>148432706
lol disregard this, couple jumps through nulsec and i found a player wreck
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>>148492139
I was refering to the pilgrim
>>
[Skiff]
Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Survey Scanner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II

Modulated Strip Miner II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

survived a number of attempts in .6 from code homos with this. that said, they do seem to be kinda soft these days
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>>148493441
if you use 3 adaptive invulns you'll get even more tank
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>>148493441
nice thanks
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>>148493478
more ehp over resist % isn't necessarily better
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>>148493717
your resists are higher therefore you have more tank.
>>
>his skiff doesn't have any tracking disruptors
>>
>>148493798
i prefer a more balanced set of resists, rather than have 2 higher & 2 lower
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>>148494396
Adaptive invulns are just broken to the point that the stacking penalty doesn't matter enough, 3 adaptives is better than 3 flavors
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>>148493798
It's a fucking skiff, i use a proc to look at station undock when it's camped by whole fleets of dps, skiffs are already hard as buggery.
Give up some tank and yield for a DDA and some points. You won't hold a svipul down bu tthen again svipul can't kill a procurer solo.
>inb4 5 million autismal variations on fitting and circumstance that prove me wrong.
>>148493441
>code
>mining in hisec with a fuckin skiff
i wish you were irrelevant, too many pigeons scratching up hisec crumbs in godlike mining ships.
>>148493143
>individual hardeners use the same cap.
no single neuting Pilgrim is gonna take on a gang of skiffs/procurers. That would be the prey of a hotdrop or a gang. If determined, your shit's gonna die anyway, but if bad you want some points and dps to deal before help arrives.
If mining in hisec and posting like that = autistic mathlord barnacle that needs removal.
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>no 51km curse
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>no heavy beams vagabond
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>There are people out there that prefer an even fight to a good carebear raping
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good night eog
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i havent touched this game in a year and idk whats been updated. is pve fun yet?
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>>148499117
PvE was changed a fucton, it's actually really fun now. Like WoW levels PvE.
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>>148499014
good night sansha doggo
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>>148499908
that's TRUE sansha doggo to you
>>
>not domination
>>
>>148503798
Doggos as a degenerate gallente starting race when
>>
When does this game get better? I've been playing for a few days and still can't fly cool ships like battleships or carriers.

Wish I could just grind xp like a normal mmo and not wait on this dumb timer shit. Its like some fucking mobile game.
>>
>>148506232
>I don't understand the game
>I should be able to fly high end shit within my first few days
>>
>>148506232
>When does this game get better?
When you learn some fucking patience.
>>
>>148506321

Well with guildwars you can start out at max level to do pvp and in wow with xp boosts can get max level in just a couple dozen hours.

Eve is just sit on my ass watch a timer tick down.

BORING!
>>
>>148506457
If you like those hyper casualized games then go fucking play them.

EVE doesn't spoon feed you. EVE is about patience and building yourself, your investments and your personal relationships with other players.
>>
>>148506673

With an attitude like that you aren't going to attract many more new player such as myself.
>>
>>148506787
Then you're not the target audience for the game

Go play all your other easily humbling themepark MMO's. CCP doesn't bend over for casuals
>>
>>148506879

You know, bitter autists like you who can't stand new players and any appeal to new players is why eve is dying.

You want to keep everyone out and only have the game in your """hardcore""" way. News flash that doesn't make money. Yur fucken done kiddo if you the game doesn't start making changes.
>>
>>148507242
lmao get bent choob, lern2play or fuck off
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>>148507242
>why doesn't this game cater to me like other MMO's?
>because its not like other MMO's
>you know thats not very nice and it doesn't make me want to play
>if you don't like it don't play
>U BITTUR AUTIST CANT TAKE ME EVE IS DYING, IF THIS GAME DOESNT CATER TO ME SWEAR ON ME MUM
>>
>>148507642

Are you ok?

I didn't think you'd get this rabid over new players wanting to play EVE and broadening its appeal to a wider audience.
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>replying to baitposters
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>>148507948
>broadening its appeal to a wider audience.
This phrase triggers people who have been playing video games since before you were born kiddo, go le xd trole somewhere else
>>
>make the game suit my tastes!
>but don't get angry at any of my demands
>>
>>148504659
make the background transparent on the pic so it doesn't look like shit if you use a 4chan theme.
>>
>tfw too lazy to mine my self imposed daily quota of ore today.

fug.
>>
I'm currently playing EVE, I also just got some premium time in World of Tanks again and now I have the urge to play some Old School Runescape. Do you guys play any other games other than EVE? How do you balance your time out? I'm thinking I should just stick with EVE and World of Tanks when I don't feel like logging in.
>>
>>148515054
stop wasting precious time on video games
>>
>>148515123
What else would I do with my time?

>Dungeons and Dragons/Some other RPG
>Program/Learn more programming
>Watch anime
>Read

Those are the other things I'd do. I'm not going to waste my life advancing a career I don't care about or pursuing a love interest I'll never attract unless I have tons of money. I'd rather be completely self indulgent and make just enough via work to support my hobbies and live life doing stuff I want to do until I die.
>>
>>148515745
watch more anime
>>
>programming
>anime
>tabletop
>EVE
Faggot detected
Kill yourself with a soldering iron
>>
>he doesn't have fun hobbies
kill yourself
>>
>she thinks they are fun

Plebian faggot
at least you read baka desu
>>
I'm not that guy and reading is not fun
>>
>guy
>>
>gal
>>
>Not sexually identifying as a Battlecruiser
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>You are already managing 0 targets, as many as your ship's electronics are capable of.
>>
>tfw forcing myself to play EVE and grind isk.

I'll be happy I did it later, I'm not a wagecuck I swear. I said I'm not a wagecuck. I'm really not I just need to grind now to be happy later. I'm not a wagecuck ;_;
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>>148518880
>>You are already managing 0 targets, as many as your ship's electronics are capable of.
>https://zkillboard.com/kill/55110104/
>tfw
>>
nice ded thread faggots
>>
I'm considering playing EvE again, convince me not to, please.
>>
>>148523645
Star Citizen is the better game. Imagine if all the subscription money you spent and will spend in EVE goes to backing Star Citizen instead.

Clearly it's the better choice.
>in before Elite:Dangerous shills and /eog/ shitposters
>>
>>148523870
But SC isn't out yet, while I could play EVE right now.
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>>148523645
Tornado-chan thinks you're a faggot desu.
Git gud or go fuck off to somewhere else.
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>>148523905
anything done in EVE is hardly called """"""playing""""""

meanwhile in SC, even if it's unfinished, the current version is still infinitely more fun
>>
>>148523972
>not Naga onee-sama
Plebs gonna pleb
>>
>>148524790
>Naga onee-sama
hora hora
>>
So how big of a ship do I need to be able to do these Serpentis/Angel Cartel sites for the Scope Network missions? Every one I've checked out has had Cruisers/Battlecruisers at it and I doubt a frigate's going to get the job done.
>>
>tfw you finish the meme event
>tfw you make 20 billion isk of it in secrit ways
>>
Tornado-chan A SHIT

Algos is best girl.
>>
RIP Amarr guy

he was robbed by dindus
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>>148525902
they're shit don't bother
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>>148525909
Please tell me your secrets.
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>still no confessor nerf
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>amarr
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>pulse lasers
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>kill 7k bounty rat
>get loot worth 5m
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>>148536757
What's the problem?
>>
>p10
>>
>>148541662
Is this game ded too? It looks like all the game I have interest in are ded or dying these days.
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>>148525909
>shit I wish would happen
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omen roam tonight m8s?
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Reminder that t2 ships are supposed to fill a niche but heavy assault cruisers and assault frigates do not fill any niche.

Remove assfrigs and HACs when?
>>
alright guys
whats the BEST battlecruiser in the game?
>>
>>148545171
fleet cane
>>
>>148545171
>BEST battlecruiser in the game
>not flying a ship you like and enjoy
>>
>>148545171
For what?
>>
>>148545171
Sleipnir
>>
sleip neer
>>
neglfer
ndhghghrir
swaypool
mooneen
jila
hekeyte
>>
The quality of this general has plummeted last months.
What is happening?
>>
>haha post eve screenshots in instagram to win plex
>hahha are we so normalfag now lollol xDddd
>>
>>148536757

Rare drops are a thing in almost all MMO's.
>>
>she isn't normal
>her instagram doesn't have EVE screenshots
>>
>>148545171
not the cyclone
>>
>tfw no rapid cruise tornado
>>
ded as fug
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r/eog in a nutshell
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>>148553002
both are shit
>>
why does my omen fit make everyone so upset, you guys keep bringing it up
>>
>>148553121
are they tho?
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>tfw a brutor gang cruises right by you
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>mfw I'm being a total faggot and flying a kiting ship

might just kys desu
>>
>>148555435
>kms
>>
hams or heavies for pve tengu
>>
>>148557139
both desu. HAMs tend to be blingy fit since they need to get closer thus need to tank tank more DPS. heavies if you want to cheap fit it
>>
>using heavies
>>
>hams
>>
Is the permanent hulkaggedon thing still going on or did it die?
>>
autotargeting lasers when
>>
>>148558053
yes people still suicide gank miners
>>
>>148558071

It's called doomsday.
>>
Hello /eog/
What kind of ship should I use to do 10/10 BR? I was thinking about a marauder, I main Gallente but a Kronos may not be the ideal, I dont like missiles so not a Golem, it's either Vargur or Paladin
Is there any pro/cons about them ?
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>>148558482
use a plate rep omen
>>
>>148558482
Muninn.
>>
>>148558482
arty vagabond
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>>148558482
Typhoon.
>>
>not raven
>>
M E A M S

E

A

M

S
>>
tie foon
>>
>meams

spot the testfag
>>
>thank-you-phoon
>>
M

E

A

M

S
>>
>>148557257

damn, looks like i have to train both then

i was trying to keep my fit cheap so start turning a profit from sites
>>
Are the event rewards worthwhile? I'm only at 3800 and this is already becoming tiresome.
>>
>>148560573
everyone else was saying it's pointless shit on the first day, and you're still here farming
>>
>playing a sproodshoot simulator
>>
>omg i cant stream this gaem on twitch is so bad :(((
>>
can you meme autists take your idiotic antics back to /v/
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>/v/
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>>148560573
i literally have 0 cuckpoints.

i ain't doing that bullshit and if you do you are a literal idiot. For reasons already explained, the rewards, and especially the accelerators are not worth the 60 hour grind
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>>148528701
first jamyl now him, how will we ever recover?
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>check fleet finder
>dual rep omen roam
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>check fleet finder
>anon get on comms
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>when you and a random corpmate are alone in the same system and he "o7" in local
>>
>>148523972
I want to fuck tornado-chan. It's actually the second ship girl I want to fuck after proteus-chan.
>>
>>148566746
God I fuckign hate this shit. Everyone tries to be so ah hello anon xDDdd. omfg fuckign kill yourself u stupid shits I don't play this game to surround myself with idiots
>>
>>148567184
Stop whining and kill them then.
>>
http://www.techspot.com/news/65601-star-citizen-backer-gets-3000-pledge-refunded-help.html

>Star Citizen backer gets his $3000 pledge refunded with help from the LA District Attorney

axaxaxaxaxa
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>>148567519
>>
C O U P B O I S IN TURKEY BROS IT'S HABBENING
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>>148569049

back to your containment board
>>
https://zkillboard.com/kill/55116972/

>that corp name

Could you be any more obvious?
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>>148569135
>I want to live in a well and ignore everything outside
>>
I want svipul-chan drawn so bad. I want to fap to svipul-chan.
>>
>>148569049
>erdogan requesting asylum in germany
I ususally hate you polfaggots, but this is some top kek material.
>>
What are some fun plex-gate camping loadouts?

Cormorant..
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>cormorant
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Energy, Hybrid, Projectile, or Missiles, /eog/?
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>>148575274
What size?
>>
>>148575274
each has their situational uses.
>>
>>148575401
>>148575496
Cucks who don't understand purity. Missiles for life.
>>
>llelelel cuuuuck memeay haha so funyya xdd hhe haha
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>>148575615
>anon doesn't pvp
>>
>>148575615
>heavy missile hits for 0 damage
>mfw a slowboating maller at its max speed with no propmod can negate 50% of HML's damage
>your 360dps drake with 3 BCS's is actually 180
>>
>mfw making up numbers
>>
So I just started this up again i've played on and off since 2010 but I only have like 3.5mil skill points which shows how little of a commitment i've put into this.

I was wondering if there were any fun high damage merlin builds around.

Pref one for missioning.

I know of the ion cannon one but that one seems ancient.
>>
>oh score someone wants to talk about frigate pvp, I like merlins, where did I leave all those different fits-
>missions
>ok
>>
>fun high damage merlin
>missions
Uwot
>>
>>148577832
>>148577935
Oh I mean that's just the only thing I was thinking of doing at the moment I would love a cool PvP build too
>>
>>148577657
Did a little math

a drake with 6 heavy missile launchers, caldari navy ammo and 3 BCS does 270 DPS which is pretty fucking garbage

if a maller has an AB on, a 1600mm plate and 2 trimarks, it goes about 600m/s which the drake only applies 180dps at that point

so I was exaggerating the effect. The maller effectively negates 33% dps on already pretty garbage DPS
>>
>AB
>the only speed tanking module in the game, the only non-bullshit way you can reduce missile damage other than guidance disruption
>only reduces by 1/3

it's nothing
>>
>>148578374
>33% reduction in damage on a weapon system that already does absolutely garbage DPS is totally OK guys
>>
no, we're not doing this again. 33% is barely anything. if you did higher paper dps, 33% would still be barely anything. fit 1 tp somewhere in your drake fleet and you can do probably full damage to the ab mallers you're imagining. 1 module to counter an entire enemy fleet fitting ab on every ship
>>
>>148578941
>33% is barely anything
Thats pretty fucking significant. In fact this is the only time in the game where 33% of your DPS can be effectively chopped off just by going slighty faster than normal. A maller is the slowest fucking cruiser, a thorax is faster, the only other thing that even comes close to being that slow is a moa and even then it negates just as much as the maller.

The thorax goes 750m/s cold with all the shit equipped and only takes 140dps out of that 270. A nominally fast cruiser like the cynabal goes 875 and takes only 110.

This isn't including any links, drugs or otherwise that would make this even worse.

At a glance, long range turret systems do more damage at further range because the angular velocity decreases exponentially the further you are from a target tangentially. Missile weapon systems by comparison don't have any feature of angular velocity and their damage loss is extremely linear because of it.

A TP jumps the thorax's signature by only 37.5%. So the thorax's signature jumps from 120 to 165. Based on the Pyfa graph this jumps the DPS that the drake does from 140 (55% reduction) to 170 (38% reduction) for a net improvement of only 17% extra damage. This is STILL fucking garbage because 38% is being effectively negated.
>>
>Pyfa
>>
How about not using missiles you collossal faggot?
>>
>>148579857
>missiles are bad
>just don't use them, then they aren't bad
>>
Yes, you don't generally use bad things. Problem solved.
>>
> In fact this is the only time in the game where 33% of your DPS can be effectively chopped off just by going slighty faster than normal

no it's not you retard

do you really think turrets do paper dps all the time
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>>148580157
Actually Turret systems get closer to paper DPS than missiles do almost every single time.

I used an Eagle with 3 magnetic field stabilizers, 5- 250mm railguns and Federation Navy Iron Ammo. This gives the Eagle a total DPS of 187

This particular ammo gives it a total range of 130+15km. I'm using an ammo with such a long range bonus to exemplify the range aspect of the gun system and how DPS significantly increases over long range due to lower transversal velocity.

the 250mm railguns never lose DPS significantly in their optimal. I'm using the same thorax I was talking about before. 120m signature with an AB going 750m/s

the DPS maxes out at 187 which is the max for this ammo and range. The damage stays fairly consistent between the ranges of 50-130km with a net loss of only 20%. Anything below 50km and you start to see greater losses due to tracking speed however this DPS can obviously be made up for by switching to a more appropriate ammo like Antimatter that can easily saturate this range. Beyond 130km is where falloff affects the railguns more since the fall off range is only 15km beyond 130km.

So yes, Turrets apply far closer to paper DPS than missiles do at any time. In fact you could say its easier to avoid damage if you're getting shot at with missiles than you'll ever negate damage with turrets
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Im really new to eve anywhere i can get some guide or something?
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>>148581007
EVE University has a great guild and the Eve University wiki has very good articles and guides for all your needs
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>an Eagle

do you not understand how +50% optimal range from ammo and 2 +50% optimal range bonuses would let you hit better at optimal?

try looking at your damage application on a moa with lead or antimatter
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>>148581286
>I'm using an ammo with such a long range bonus to exemplify the range aspect of the gun system and how DPS significantly increases over long range due to lower transversal velocity

The same example can be used with a rail moa. I'm only using the eagle with long range ammo to show the example more clearly. This same thing is prevalent in every railgun, beam, or artillery regardless of the range. The long range is just to make it more clear.
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>>148581512
>just to make it more clear

you can't moan about long range missile dps vs close range turrets, and then also moan about how long range turrets with long range ammo on a stupid long range ship with no dps ends up applying damage well
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>>148581801
>close range turrets,
I didn't mention close range turrets at all

250mm railguns are the largest, longest range medium weapon system for the cruiser category
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>>148581907
you were moaning about close range turret damage when you said hmls do fuck all. you aren't bemoaning their dps when we're comparing them to iron railguns
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>>148581801
>and then also moan about how long range turrets with long range ammo on a stupid long range ship with no dps ends up applying damage well
This had nothing to do with my post btw, I specifically said I'm using the eagle and the iron ammo to show the relation of how turrets get to paper DPS so much easier than missiles do because of angular velocity factors

In case you didn't read
>I'm using an ammo with such a long range bonus to exemplify the range aspect of the gun system and how DPS significantly increases over long range due to lower transversal velocity
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>>148582109
yeah, and I'm going to just mention that when you use normal turret ships with normal ammo at normal ranges you don't apply that well
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>>148582089
>you were moaning about close range turret damage
No I wasn't

Please quote me where I mentioned a close range weapon system.

I didn't mention HAM's, I didn't mention Pulses or Blasters, I didn't even mention autocannons.

>>148582217
oh so you didn't read the "I'M ONLY USING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE TO CLEARLY SHOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT" quote?

I also suppose you think that iron isn't a normal ammo because it totally is
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>>148582294
ok. when you go on about how shit hml dps is, what ar eyou talking about? what's it shit compared to? if you're like pretty much anyone else I've talked to ever, you're talking about vs the weapons people actually use, i.e. turrets

a long range weapon does not outdamage a short range weapon

>example to show what I'm talking about

yeah I don't really get what you're talking about. ok, so turrets apply damage better the further away they are. we all know this, why are you explaining. this doesn't in any way mean that they apply damage better than hmls in general
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EVE should have an RTS that's the exact same game with controlling both multiple and single ships (and AI, obvs.). AMA.
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>>148582558
>ok. when you go on about how shit hml dps is, what ar eyou talking about?
270 dps is pretty garbage when you're losing half of it to a slowboating ship which makes it 140. That was the only comparison.

My response to you came after "if you think turrets ever come close to their paper DPS" which I proved they did and lost less damage when application issues arose.

I'm making an example of how (even with your TP) that HML's apply like absolute shit and they lose a significant amount of their DPS because of application issues. Not even 1 TP gives it back a good portion of its DPS, the application loss went from 55% DPS lost to only 38% lost which is still a huge loss. I then went on to prove that railguns by the same comparison of application only lose upwards of 20% before touching their fall off or loss to excessive tracking speed. I used a ship that naturally got a long range bonus to elucidate this point that the further you are away from a target the more damage you do with a turret system. Missiles don't have that feature so their damage loss is extremely linear with no retribution like features such as angular velocity.
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>>148583051
>slowboating

you mean ab, a module that's generally pretty useless. and I disagree, if you put zero effort into your damage application, and someone can only reduce it by 33%, that's fucking nothing. you should be bringing damage application stuff if you're in a gang. you should be brawling and webbing shit if you're not in a gang. it's not difficult to apply damage, it's trivially easy

>Missiles don't have that feature so their damage loss is extremely linear with no retribution like features such as angular velocity

this isn't a bad thing, why are you saying it is? when you've got some missile guy under your guns doing full damage to you, and you're doing not 66% of your damage, you're doing 0%, you won't be saying this
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>>148583428
>you should be bringing damage application stuff if you're in a gang
One TP brings your DPS lost up from 55% to 38% Which is still significant by every means. Even if you brought multiple application tools like more TP's you're having to go through so much more just to make sure your cruiser sized weapon system even approaches relative application to a cruiser sized target.

>you should be brawling and webbing shit
then why ever use HML's when HAM's suffice for that. HAM's while still having similar application issues don't lose that kind of DPS due to a cruiser sized target moving slightly faster than average.


>this isn't a bad thing, why are you saying it is? when you've got some missile guy under your guns doing full damage to you, and you're doing not 66% of your damage, you're doing 0%, you won't be saying this
This is abstract to the scope of the original argument. If a long range ship allowed an enemy to close the gap then the enemy won. However since missiles apply linearly across their range it doesn't matter if you're long or short range because of it. I would imply that HML's could see a rework so that their range isn't so stupidly long for no reason and their damage and application went up as a trade off. HAM's with normal range bonuses usually work up to 30km where HML's get beyond 70 which is excessive and pointless. They ought to see the benefits of increased damage so they can readily compete with HAM's while still having longer range for the same purposes. Currently a RLML or HAM cerberus is a superior option to an HML cerb because the HML's have pointlessly excessive range for a cost of losing lots of damage and application. Is this evidence that RLML's or HAM's need tweaking of their own? Not necessarily since the disabling of short range weapons does not give any incentive for long range weapons
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>>148584024
>you're having to go through so much more

to an afterburning cruiser more like. I think this is just because you aren't in web range, not because you're using missiles. webs are so vastly powerful for damage application that they pretty much break the game

>why ever use HMLs

in gangs obviously (I mean rapids exist atm so this is all pointless)

>This is abstract to the scope of the original argument

no, it's not. turret damage application is affected by your own movements. you're making it sound like that's all just a good thing. sometimes it's not, because if you want to avoid enemy damage as effectively as possible, it can reduce your own damage too

>wanting to reduce hml range

I think that's garbage. plebbing up the game so everyone has their mid-range 50km F1 shit is gay as hell. if hmls aren't good enough they should be made better, without any kind of lost range to compensate just because anon doesn't feel like he needs all that range
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>>148582854
It already exists. It's called Homeworld.
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r8 this is for level 3 mission
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>Ore buybacks aren't filled
>My jump freighter order still isn't filled

Do logistics normally take a fucking week to fulfill contracts?
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>>148587382
>unbonused rapids
>only 1 bcs
>looks very overtanked

0/100 best I can do
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>>148587772
dont tell drake-san what to do
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>>148587382
replace BCS with a DCU for more tank

replace one LSE for a shield recharger and see if that gives you higher values

also use HAM's
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>unironically only having 20km range
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>>148588873
why would I want 20km missile range mate?
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>>148589041
more damage, your rapids don't get a bonus on the drake
and its more like 25km

what are you even using this for?
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>>148589115
for killing shit what else for.

wow a whole 25 km
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>>148590687
wow a whole 400dps tanked

this is a garbage fit, you'll do level 3's faster in a ferox
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>>148591101
how are HAMs better than RLML. Everyone here says hams are shit
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>>148591390
Even with the garbage application of HAM's you'll do more damage with them than unbonused rapid lights

why don't you right click your DPS number and then click "factor in reloads" and find out how much it'll take
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>>148591482
do I look like a fucking nerd???
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>>148591782
nice comeback

why don't you sell your drake, get a fucking ferox, equip railguns and go to town
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>>148591849
your whole stick is

>huuur use hams over rlml

even when that has been proven false
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>>148591952
Factor in reloads for the RLML's you'll do more damage with HAM's
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>>148591952
you dont know shit about this game
why would you basically admit that, by asking for advice for a drake fit, and then sit around making fun of people trying to help?

when people say rlmls are op, they mean for pvp. pve frigs dont move at the speed people fit frigs do, so the lm application isnt necessary
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>>148592226
tl:dr
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xd
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whats the no mans sky i heard some tards memeing about?
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>>148597625
imagine minecraft

in space

but you can't build anything ever
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>>148597625
it's like a procedurally generated "universe" space sandbox game. Let's not forget that this is from devs who had to postpone the release date, and apparently the final installation of the files are 6GB. which, call me cynical, but regardless of what your algorithm is, that tells me it's just going to be a universe where game assets are just going to be repeated at a random order ad infinitum, and you just call that "procedurally generated".

It was a really small dev team from what i saw on the photos so I am not holding my breath. just waiting for post release reviews and see if I will shell out $60.
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>>148597625

Not really comparable to EVE in any sort of fashion other than they both take place in space. Putting EVE aside for banter for a minute though, the only thing I look forward to from NMS is for it to bury Elite in its fucking grave so that hopefully Frontier will hold its end of the bargain and release the source code for the game once they shut the servers down so someone else can make Elite into a halfway decent spess game.
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>>148598390
pretty much this

can I just say how fucking slimy these "space game" devs have been lately? from Robert Space Industry (or whatever the fuck they call themselves lately) to frontier, and potentially the NMS team. let's hope NMS is at least what they promised.
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>>148598673

We are in the dark age of space games. We were spoiled with games like Freespace, Freelancer, X2 and 3, Sins of a Solar Empire, Homeworld, and probably a few more I'm forgetting. Now we have hot garbage like Stellaris, Elite, and Scam Citizen. I think NMS will be what makes or breaks spess for the near future. If it's good, we'll see some more investment into space games and more devs venturing into making good space games. If it's shit, then devs like the horrible faggots at Frontier will keep shoveling shit in our face and devs like RSI will keep taking endless amounts of cash from retards because they have a monopoly on space sims.

There's also that game with the really complicated cockpit that you can interact with that I keep forgetting about. It looks really cool but it's early access, and I'm not falling for that shit again.
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Stellaris is decent tho

>Freelancer
It was only mediocre
>>
>stellaris
>decent

I'll give it to you that Freelancer was a little overrated but it's leagues above the shit we have now.

Never reply to me again.
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>>148599480
>There's also that game with the really complicated cockpit that you can interact with that I keep forgetting about. It looks really cool but it's early access, and I'm not falling for that shit again.

That'll be Rouge System. it looks pretty dank, but as far as I know it's being developed by one single guy? either way, I'm looking forward to it, but not really holding my breath.
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>she is a pleb
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Quick dog, I'm nearing the end of brewing my own beer, an IPA and a very smooth stout.
What should I name it?
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>>148600220

10 proof goo
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>>148600349
Needs to be dog or eve related
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>>148600432

but it is eve related, you silly brutor

>tengu
>ten goo
>ten proof goo
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>Never reply to me again.
What did she mean by this
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>>148600220
>IPA
>Stount

really kill yourself irl for real
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>>148600854
>he drinks extra pale American light beer
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>>148600854
by this I mean are you really brewing something that's an IPA and Sout at the same time??

also I'm drinking Two-hearted Ale which is, like, one of of the best IPAs out there right now.
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No, separate.
The IPA tastes like a very hoppy dry Lagunitas and the Stout tastes like an old Rasputin with more coffee hints and smoother bigger head
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>>148601616
good man, you have god tastes.
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>>148601616

bad man, you have devil tastes.
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>>148603169
no., fuck you, go drink your doronas and heineken you faggot.
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>tfw you enjoy almost all beer
my favourite is weissbier though
you guys should just learn to enjoy more stuff in the world
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>>148603379

please do not call me mean names
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>he doesn't like Delirium Tremens.

desu I reach for a Heineken when that's all there is.
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>>148603614
>just lower your tastes till you like everything

No thank you.
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>>148604354
>"lower your tastes"
>mfw there are people so narcissistic they think their own taste is somehow "higher"
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>>148605175
mate, if you haven't beer besides what the bros think is good you need to kill yourself in real life for real. There are so many good choices out there.
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>>148605312
m8 just because something tastes better it doesn't make something else taste worse, cheap mass produced beer is still good, there is just better shit out there, maybe you should stop stuffing your dick inside your ass
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>>148603759
nocturnum is better
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>>148605521
maybe you should stop sticking your dick inside gay ass. there are good beer and bad beer. Your choice is objectively bad beer, so shut the fuck up you slimy ass motherfucker who likes bad beer.
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>>148605840
>objectively bad beer
lmao
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>>148606061
>hurrr Budweiser, Heineken, Corona isn't bad beer. Ok, Faggot.
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>Ice mining is super comfy/profitable
>Can't sell any of the ice I mined
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>>148607321
cucked.
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>>148607321
ur retarded
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>>148607321
how is it profitable it you can't sell it
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>>148605840
Your argument is that "you should start liking more things" I didn't mean lower my taste as in "that beer is shit and my beer is good" I meant it as "To me this beer tastes good and that beer tastes like shit". There is literally no reason to consume or use a variety of things for the simple sake of variety.

If I like a pair of shoes, I'll buy 3 pairs of those shoes. If I like a soda I'll buy a bulk amount of that soda. If I like a dinner, I'll cook and eat that dinner until I'm tired of it. I'll never understand people that are like "Ya I love eating that but we had it yesterday so we can't have it today" or some other variant of that.

Stupid fucking mentallity.
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>>148607519
The game lied to me, it said it was worth 250,000 a block.
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>>148607774
Nobody gonna buy the raw ice you nigger.
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>>148607671
what the fuck are you saying besides a motherfucker that "huurr I like le coronas and budwiser" cuck?
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>>148607868
I compressed it.
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>>148607981
Reprocess it you fucking faggot.
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>>148607921
what the fuck are you talking about? I'm that >>148604354 anon retard not the guy that likes bud/steal reserve/PBR/Busch/corona/coors etc.

I don't drink any alchohol. I'm a manchild that drinks SURGE soda.
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>>148608063
I don't have level V ice reprocessing. Also what am I'm going to do with the shit? People will buy the heavy water I guess but what about the other stuff?
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>>148608203
>I don't drink any alchohol. I'm a manchild that drinks SURGE soda.

why the fuck don't you drink any alcohol, it's literally not going to kill you.
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>im so le drunkard so adult lmao look at me mom im so adult lol
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>>148608668
>8608668 â–¶
>>im so le drunkard so adult lmao look at

huuuur I'm le ignoramus, I don't know how to react to different consciousness levels.
>>
>>148608608
All the alchohol I've had with the exception of some hard alchohol mixes have tasted bad. Theres no reason to go out of my way to learn how to mix drinks that taste good just so I can drink alchohol.


And hard alchohol that I would use for those mixes is fucking expensive compared to just drinking my manchild soda.
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>>148608738
stay mad bitch
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>>148608845
You seem to think that it's either get fucked up drunk or don't drink at all, but there is a middleground. You can enjoy alcohol and have a good time. That's what most of the population do.
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Hi fuckers, I'm still looking for name suggestions.
I wanted to name one "Polarized Machariel"
And the other "Vagabond" but that's taken.
Also I'm sure as he'll adding hidden meme green text in the label.

But I'm not selling any until their flavors are more unique and I get better at it and more consistent with the brew and mixing.
Just handing them to family and friends for now.
I'll post pic once label is printed, once I'm done picking names.
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>>148609357
I didn't even mention getting messed up. All I mentioned was that I think alchoholic drinks taste bad. If they taste bad then the only remaining reason to drink them is to get fucked up. Since I don't want to do that then why would I drink them over drinking something I actually like drinking?

Why would I sit there and sip on something I think tastes like shit? Even good beer that people have told me to taste I thought tasted like shit, I couldn't taste the alchohol, but it was probably the hops that I thought tasted bad. I like sugery soft drinks as a recreational beverage. Otherwise I'll just drink water and milk.
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>>148609650
then you have autism. You are like the people who don't like coffee because it testes bitter.
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>>148609650
How can you get drunk from beer?
You'll pass out from stomach gastritis or puke way before that.

Anyways drink whatever you want.
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>>148609889
>then you have autism.

I'm playing EVE aren't I?
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>cool gold amarr guy got murdered irl

May he rest in the Empress' embrace
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>>148610035
touche
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>>148609578
Polarized Machariel
Artillery Vagabond
Third Midslot
Doomsdayed Orca
Rapid Lights
Svipul Nerfs
Corax Buffs
Brutor Genocide
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>>148609909
>How can you get drunk from beer?

Don't drink shitty piss water. be hideously obese, or have developed a severe alcoholic's tolerance?
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The is NOTHING wrong with Rolling Rock
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>>148610086
I like the 3th, 4th and 5th a lot
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>>148610352
>Rolling Rock
>4.4% ABV

other than that no one said anything wrong with it
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>>148610086
>no 50km curse
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>>148610724
>have to mix Amstel Light and Michelob Light with vodka to make them a real alcoholic drink
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>>148610910
wat
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>>148610949
>>
If it's not at least 8% it's a kid's drink.
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>>148611086
well I just had a 6-pack of 7% beer and it was pretty fun. But if it's less than 5% it's not really beer.
>>
>check eog before sleep
>long discussion about beer
>a couple of posts about ice mining
Well, you are all being reasonably civil so it's better than it often is, I guess
>mfw someone calls someone an autist for disliking bitter tastes
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>>148613701
I just don't get how someone could dislike beer. It's like drinking soda except it makes you feel good about your meaningless life...
>>
Did my first couple days of Incursions. The ISK / hour is great compared to the other PvE stuff I've done and I get to play logi too!

I'm really excited about all this ISK and getting to spend it doing wormhole exploration and dying horribly in w-space.

I only made 125 mil ISK / hour, and I imagine that number will get even better when it's not, you know, my third day doing this.
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>>148614140
that's good man, I'm glad you are enjoying it! ^_^
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Will EVE survive to 2020?
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>>148615734
better question is, will Elite Dangerous survive to 2020?
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>>148615734
Yes, the game is becoming prettier, a lot of new modifications incoming, newplayers have a lot of things to do, etc
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>>148615805
I looked at their general and they are just complaining about griefing and dads. And just doing nothing.

>>148615836
>newplayers have a lot of things to do
nice meme
>>
Damn, the ED generalfags somehow hate eachother more than we do.
>>
>>148615909
Is griefing even possible in that game?
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>>148616637
to them PvP is griefing.
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>>148616637
Apparrently it is. Idk how it works.
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>>148585078

No bully the Mothership-chan!
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>>148598217

It's faster to pre-generate the assests and load them from disk than to generate them every time you want to play.

Faggot.
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>>148610758

More like 80km.
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>>148558482
I M HERE AGAIN, Vargur or machariel ?
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>>148617636
Typhoon.
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>>148617636
officer fit Barghest
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>>148617636

Carrier.
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>>148617749
10/10s have gates.
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>>148617636
svipul
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>>148617636
Vargur. Mach won't tank it.
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>>148617636
Machariel. Vargur is bad.
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>>148617948
epic contrarian post, shitlord
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>>148617774

Slowboating is comfy.
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>>148618000
No, it means you can't even get inside.
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>epic
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>>148617890
>>148617948
guys
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>>148618165
>>148617890
>>
>>148618218
okay, go for the vargur
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>>148618000
trips has it, slowboating in a carrier.
>>
Centus>Corpus
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Lol, Fullerides are back under 600isk. Is someone activelly forcing the price down?
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>>148618036

You can, if you slowboat for long enough.
>>
>>148618659
yes
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>>148618659

Sssshhhhh anon! You're ruining my profits.
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>>148618763
xdxdxdx
wwwww
lelelellololhjuheuh kek
>>
What happens if you light a cyno inside the gated pocket?
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