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>Official Stuff
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/community/

>Competitive Info
http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://www.over.gg/

>The Oversheet (Damage values and other numbers)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Stats and Leaderboards (Unofficial)
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://www.overbuff.com/

>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us
>Best "main" edition
Previous thread:>>148177656
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First for best sensibility in ps4?
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hana song
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>>148212839
Default is x30/y15
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Remove Reaper
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>playing Mercy
>push the payload episode
>no one is on it but me
>actually, no one is anywhere near it, they're all at war with each other by spawn or someshit while I ride the car
>someone finally shows up and kills me
>start heading back to the payload because there's only ~12 meters left to get to victory
>notice I don't see my teammates anywhere
>....?
>????
>check playerlist
>I'm alone except for one single enemy Bastion
>They all DC'd
>whatthefuck
>get on the payload as people join the game
>tic-tac gun the Bastion to death while people begin character picking
>get payload in
>win
But why?

Anyways! You have to bodyswap with any member of the Overwatch cast you wanna swap with. Doesn't matter who. You'll just get to be in their body for a month. Who do you pick?
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>>148212839
How pros are setting?
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>>148213523

Tracer, so I could set it up to have her off herself right at the swap back
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>>148213683
>ps4
>pros
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>>148212963
D.Va buffs tomorrow, right? RIGHT? please
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>up 4 ranks tonight
finally some luck with the retard lottery, Jesus Christ
didn't have a single leaver in 6 matches
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Fuck you Mei you ckink popsicle humping retard. Shove your wall up your gaping ass cavity and never take it back because you are shit with them!
Fuck you Pharah, fuck you with a brick. Justice..ughh. Justice rein...ughhhh. You don't have to fucking telegraph your q by hovering in front of widowmaker for five seconds.
Fuck you Rheinheardt you senile son of a bitch. Your shield should be used at least sometimes, as smacking people with a hammer for two whole seconds before dying from the turrets may not be the best application of your skills.
Fuck you Mercy you slutty piece of floating shit. If you want to put your pistol to good use so much - put it in your mouth and pull the trigger.
Fuck you Hanzo, you anime loving cocksucker. Spamming left click all match instead of drawing your bow is a very poor attempt at cosplaying junkrat
>52% of team's damage. I tried to be a soldier now. Fuck me too.
Sorry for the blogpost, had to vent after the most retarded match of my life.
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>>148212839
35/35 for long range heroes
50/50 for close/medium range
75/50 for reinhardt, symmetra, winston, and tracer
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>yesterday
>8 game lose streak
>retards, retards everywhere
>fuck it's lets try """""competitive"""""
>exactly the fucking same, except your cannot just leave, and added dumb slav slaving on the voice chat
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>>148213523
Any girl would be OK.
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>dropped from 68 to 63 in one day
JUST
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Do people actually struggle vs Mei? She is never picked at all in my matches so I don't get the hate
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SUMMER SKINS WHEN?
>Tracer
Orange/yellow bikini with side-tie bottoms
>Pharah
Black bikini with sports bra and boyshorts
>Mercy
V-cut white one-piece
>Widowmaker
Skimpy violet bikini with halter top
>D.Va
Classic blue/pink bikini
>Mei
Some bikini that embarrasses her because it can't fully contain her thiccness
>Zarya
SPETSNAZ wetsuit
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>lose first point on hollywood due to mercy pocketing our shit fucking pharah
>call pharah shit and say how unlucky it is for mercy to pocket her of all people
>she pockets me as mccree and we fucking shitstomp them on the 2nd point
>mercy does a "anon why'd you go to the enemy team :(" on the next map

healsluts stop your catfishing its 2016
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>2 instapick Genji
>"please let me play him"
>lose

>YA LO LEE
>Reinhardt with 3 gold medals
>team does jack shit including rank 58 Pharah that does nothing of use
>payload is 2 meters away from checkpoint because no one is capable of pushing
>sides switch
>enemy team steamrolls ours and wins
>still 3 golds by the end of the match

>Hollywood attack
>hanzo
>other guy picks WM
>neither switch before the match starts
>leave

How's that competitive going, anons?
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>>148214521
usually genji mains who aren't used to be stopped
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>>148214138
W-why?
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>>148214628
>Rank 58
You expect them to be good or what?
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>>148214521
depends on the whoever is struggling and mei, average retard cannot grasp the concept of not staying close and strafing, a good mei will be a major pain in the ass too
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>>148214521
the only people that struggle against mei are literal retards and squishies that believe shes better than winston
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>>148214695
In his defense, Rank 58 is much higher than average, so it's a reasonable expectation

>>148214616
Come on, Blizzard, I'm ready for summer
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>No link to this thread in the previous thread

get aids
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>>148210410
Reminder that Tracer can literally fuck herself and doesn't need anyone's help from the Overwatch cast and certainly not yours
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People are so mean in competitive.
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>>148214773
shhh, it's that "if they are less rank than pros then they are shit" meme
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>>148214843
so go and quickplay then you fucking rank 30 pussy
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Post lewd Widowmaker
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>>148214521
I think Mei is annoying because it's hard to finish her off at long range, and it gets worse if it's a good one who uses their alt fire a lot
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>>148214883
It was more the fact that im rank 66 and still pretty bad
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>>148213365
That sounds like the worst idea ever, who is gonna keep tanks in check then? Don't you dare say unnerf McCree either.
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>>148214773
>Rank 58 is much higher than average
My friend is 58 and still locks bastion on anubis and 66. Sometimes even on attack. "Ima counter that rein bastion and kill them first"
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>>148214961
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>>148215052
there's literally nothing wrong with bastion on attack
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>>148215136
on payload maps maybe
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While Blizzard created a pretty good game, here is your reminder that:

>Each map has only one fucking mode, whereas the maps could easily support multiple mode
>There is no MOBA mode even though MOBA Overwatch would be fun
>There is NO CAPTURE THE FLAG mode

Are they just phoning it in at this point or?
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>>148210410
>rank 58
>deranking hard
>get placed vs. 2/6 of Envyus
>get stomped hard
>next game get placed with rank 71 that just dicks around at point B while we're still pushing A

What did I do to deserve this?
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>>148215184
>capture the flag mode
how would that be balanced with all the mobility.
Even if you remove the ability of mobility while carrying the flag you will see 6 zarya comps just trading shields to the flag carrier
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How many loved ones would you sacrifice to the Egyptian gods for a pharah gf?
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>>148214841
>reminding me there will never be a Tron 3

So fucking depressed dude
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>>148214521
I don't struggle, her ice cube triggers me though
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>went from up 52 to 58 today
NICE TRY FORCED 50

I'LL CARRY ALL OF THE HANZOS AND GENJIS YOU GIVE ME WITHOUT A PROBLEM
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>>148215184
MOBA Overwatch would be on the level of Cthulu nightmares, think of all the idiots you've ran into, now imagine them feeding a Zarya or Avenueswine or a Tracer.
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>>148215184
Maybe a weekly brawl with lucio tracer genji and pharah?
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>>148215184
-there is MOBA mode, it's a weekly brawl mode
-kill yourself if you want ctf garbage in OW, or at all anywhere
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>>148215340
>went from 47 to 58 because retards (on either team)
>went down to 53 because retards (on my team mainly)
58 is the cursed number
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>>148215095
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>>148215242
Enemy has to get the flag, and get out. Could easily implement a small timer that makes them vulnerable trying to pick up the flag so they don't just zip in and out as Tracer.

Still requires multiple caps to win a round - nothing wrong with having a CTF mode where it's first to 5, and each team is going to get captures in.

>Zarya
Same reason you don't see 6 Zarya's on KOTH, or any other game mode.
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>>148215242
Flag carrier can't use mobility skills or be buffed by teammates. Pretty easy fix man
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>>148215405
so then every flag carrier is a reinhardt, great
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>>148215263
None I'd prefer a Zarya gf
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>>14821538
>One of the oldest modes in gaming, CTF, is garbage
>not wanting more variety in OW

TIME TESTED MECHANICS FAGGOT GET OVER IT AND HAVE FUN
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>>148215405
so genji then?
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>>148215432
I'll be honest I wouldn't play a ctf mode but I can how it could effectively be implemented, but this is Blizzard so it won't, it'd be a god damn shit show.
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Are there any good Lucio videos where he does a lot of speed boosting? Preferably the kind where his teammates benefit a lot from the added speed.
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I am entirely convinced that Reinhardt is the sole best way if winning competitive matches in the retard brackets
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>>148215435
Are you strong enough to lift her?
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>go 5 rein 1 lucio on Dorado attack
>rip ass like a herd of angry rhinos
QP can be fun guys
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>>148215184
>Have a team elimination mode of multiple rounds (best out of 9?) where you spawn in, have one life, and have to complete an objective

Shit would be retarded and crazy stupid. I wouldn't mind something like this being a brawl.
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>>148215605
thanks /fgg/
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>>148215617
One day I may.
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Which map has the best spawn room and why is it Numbani?
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>>148215242
Any mobility skill drops the flag immediately, the maps have several chokepoints and/or falling hazards, the flag can easily be assaulted from multiple openings.

Can't really elaborate it - all that comes to mind is a mix of UT and Tribes CTF.
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>>148215609
solo queuing rein sounds fucking AWFUL
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>>148215605
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>>148215698
Nah, tryhardt is pretty easymode
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>>148215609
Lucio is better for solo. People benefit from healing by existing, nobody benefits from a shield they don't hide behind
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>>148215546
In what world would genji make a good flag carrier?

>>148215691
Keep the mobility skills as part of it, I'm totally okay with someone like Winston zipping in and out - if you do however, you have to account for it in other ways

Either have a delay in picking up the flag (1-2 seconds) or flag resets automatically on death, can not be dropped / passed to another team mate... Possibly both.

But I'm okay with some Tribes level bullshit of someone dropping in and getting out super fast.
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>>148215698
reinhardt is probably the most consistent solo queue you can have because even the most retarded of retards understand what he does
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>>148215698
I love dropping into a losing game, see they need a tank and going ham as Reinhardt. Don't know how many games I've pulled out of my ass by swing my fuck you hammer around, firestriking and charging bitches into paste. More often then not it throws the enemy off enough to finish out that last bit of time and win.
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>>148215753
how does this make any sense, any vegetable could play Lucio at his skill floor

you're supposed to play heroes that can carry well in solo
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tfw 3 legendary Genji skins but I am terrible as him
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Should I use my amplify to heal during pushes, or to run away when my team inevitably gets shit on?
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>>148215778
Double jump, wall climb and one of the most fast characters? Those are not abilities and cannot be taken away unless they remove jumping entirely. And he can deflect in emergency
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>>148215852
QP is now a place to practice instalock Genji and git gud.
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>>148215698
it's certainly not enjoyable most of the time, but it undeniably works, I've pulled myself from 44 to 52 in the last 3 days playing almost entirely Reinhardt, people(read:retards) don't really know how to respond when 10 tons of German efficiency crashes into them and murders half their team
>>148215753
yeah, but I hate playing the dubstep negro
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>>148215852
Don't worry you will get some duplicates ^_^
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>>148215609
If you play a good Reinhardt, he is by far one of the best characters you can use to contribute to a bad team.

He is forced to be in the center of the battlefield, at the line of scrimmage, and is a giant fucking beacon that draws enemies attention. In short, he is a big neon flashing sign that says "Everything going on in the match is happening here, so look this way faggots"

Having a bad Reinhardt sucks ass, but if you have a good Reinhardt, it's like having a support character who raises the IQ of your team just a little bit.
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>>148215598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeJQ9V-_ceY
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>>148215852
> tfw Young Genji and Sparrow
> tfw I never play Genji
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>>148215184
>NO CAPTURE THE FLAG
2 fort when
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>>148215624
>2 Lucio, 4 Rein
>one heal one speed
>healthy angry hammerslamming rhinos
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>>148215878
I use speed boost without amp during pushes and swap to healing once people take some hits. That extra mobility seems to help in fights.
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>>148215890
He's going to get fucking smoked on the way to or from the flag. You have to deal with Roadpork, Torb, Sym, Bastion, and anyone else who can put him in the ground once they get a glimpse of him.
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>>148212839
The most sensible thing to do would be getting it on PC
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>>148215852
>only legendaries are for zenyatta and widow
>i don't ever play zenyatta and i suck at widow
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>buy T.racer
>Next box is Ultraviolet

Nice RNG blizzdrones. I should have bought Lionhardt
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>"D.va online"
Oh, the sweet sweet sound of defeat
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>>148215935
>Junkrat rocket jumping onto the ledge
>Mei using the wall to immediately boost herself onto the ledge
>Reinhardt charging the bridge because fuck it we'll do it live

muh dik
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>>148216001
I have all of Widowmaker's legendaries, and while I'm good at her, I..don't like playing her. At all. I've got six hours on her and an 80% winrate + 70% accuracy, but she's so fucking boring. Tracer is more fun.

Save us from this hell, Blizzard.
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>>148216064
>Ultraviolet
You wouldn't have used it even if you didn't buy the other right?
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>>148216131
Her recast timer on her batman hook needs to be cut in half so you can zip around the map for maximum fun.
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New game modes should be

Arena (TDM where if you die you don't respawn. Your team wins if everyone on the opposing team dies. If the fighting takes too long a control point unlocks. If you cap it your team wins.)
3 CP (If you're not familiar with 5 cp, you fight to capture the neutral middle point which unlocks the opposing team's control point. Reduced to 3 since this game is 6v6.)
Payload Race
Payload Tug of War
Reverse Hybrid (Payload -> Cp. Actually this takes very good map design to prevent it from being terrible and full of stall tactics. I wouldn't trust Blizzard.)

Ctf would need a lot of failsafes to stop it from being slow.

>>148215432
A partial solution to that is giving a discord orb type debuff that starts after 1 minute and progressively gets worse. This is to prevent turtling. At some point your tankiness won't matter.
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>>148215823
And Lucio-ohs does just that, helping squishies take that extra hit they need to kill their opponent
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>>148215184
Overwatch by any means isnt a good game.

They intended to make it an MMO and fucked everything over to make it a moba-shooter hybrid to cater the casual audience while getting pressured from competitive monkeys, which ended up in this horrible mess we see today.
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>>148216131
>>148216064
>>148216001
Just buy more loot boxes for a chance at the skins you want :^)
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>>148216175

(you)
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>>148215852
>2 Symmetra epics and a Tolbjorn epic
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>>148216175
Y..yeah, no, please no.
Sniping is just really boring to me. If there was a way to make her fun without breaking her, I'd love it, but that's doubtful.

Unless they made a tightrope speedboost map or something. That'd be cool.
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>>148216224
>buying ingame loot ever
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>>148216349
That's the joke
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>>148216194
Payload race sounds great. Try to stall the enemy team while getting your payload to the goal area first, right?
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>>148215890
>passive abilities
>not abilites
????
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>play mei
>headshot niggas from across the map better than widowmaker
>potg is some faggot reaper/pharah/hanzo that ulted a bunch of people inside my ult once
Ultimate kills should be valued at less than half for PotG purposes.
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>>148216395
>tfw no payload mode where is a single payload and one team must deliver it to the other base, like the splatoon's tower control
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What if there was a map with temporary power ups littered around the map? Things like temporary shields, bonus damage, armor etc
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>>148216412
I think what people are targeting with mobility skills would be Genji's dash, Tracers blinks, Reinhardt's charge, Winston's jump pack, Lucio's speed boost etc, anything that would make it highly favourable to just pick characters that can cover huge distances quickly.
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>>148216491
>PotG/M

It's a team game senpai
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>>148215184
capture the flag in overwatch.
have you ever even played the game?
that would be the most retarded thing to do and doesn't even remotely fit in with the heroes and abilities that are in the game
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>>148216194
>tfw there is no traditional capture and hold type game mode in Overwatch

Give us 3 point KOTH blizzard comeon
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>>148214620
why the fuck would anyone pocket a McCree?
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>>148216653
If they're the best you got out of a shit buffet why the fuck not?
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>>148216395
Yup. You could also ruin their current progress in Tf2's if they were going uphill because it would slide right back down if no one pushed or contested it. Although, I don't know how you'd do that with hover cars but it could just be a cartoony quirk.
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>>148216561
So genjis and tracers hog them all and become even worse? No
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>>148214616

Most Korean girls don't wear rivaling bikinis. If they do they have a big white shirt on.
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>>148216603
Why in the fuck not?

Literally, why would it not work. This whole meme game design where all 6 of your heroes have to smash into the other 6 members of the opposing team at a central point of focus needs to go away.

Having an actual game mode where you have to split your team strategically would be fun.
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>2 (two) maps in America

Wow this game is so racist
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>>148216561
doesn't seem like a good idea in a game where not everyone has the same mobility
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>>148216578
But I'm contributing more to my team by headshoting the Mercy or Hanzo than some faggot who comes in to steal a bunch of kills from me.
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>Playing as Genji on attack in Gibraltar
>Manage to ninja my way behind the enemy and get a triple kill with my ult
>Hop on the payload to help make the final push and win shortly after
>PotG is Mei ulting and killing 2 people unable to move
Can we ban Mei from getting PotG?
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>>148216816
Personally I see the pros, but with the way most people play this it'd be alot worse than any of us could imagine. Too many people don't even play the current game modes correctly, I doubt they can handle anything else, and unfortunately they're all gonna go over to try the fun new game mode and fuck it up permantly for everyone else.
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>>148216840
>0 (zero) south american maps
cabron
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I always use the emote with the longest animation and die because of it.
But isn't that the only way to emote? It's just no fun to use it if there's no danger in it.
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>when all 4 cards are garbage and everyone is struggling to decide which one to vote for
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>>148216840
3 if you count Dorado
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Why isn't there a Valkyrie version of visamund's Devil Mercy webm?

Do people actually like that skin?
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Does Hanzo count as a Sniper?
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>say my sonic boom is ready
>get replies from other people telling their ult is ready
>break it down
>speed it up
>team kill in under 3 seconds

wew ok
sometimes this game is fun
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>>148217067
Unfortunately yes they do.
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>>148217000
>gold eliminations damage and objective kills
>34 direct hits 23% of rockets fired
t-thanks you too
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>>148217085
No, Hanzo is a tank.
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>>148217085
yes but he clearly isnt a sniper
hes just a mid to long range damage dealer
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Does anyone actually think Lucio is a really well designed hero? He genuinely feels like too many people had an input on the hero.
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>>148216959
What skin were you using?
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>>148217090
>retards spam all their ults
>heroes never die
:^)
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>>148216961
I don't know. Most games with CTF, including TF2, seem to run fine, and even games like RB6 Siege that is designed around having a super switched on 5 man team with 100% communication skills, still works with rando scrubs in match making.

I think people would get it. There would be a very clear divide in what heroes are implied for a role. In many ways, it actually simplifies many of the character roles because instead of this diverse mechanic of "He's a support class but he can also do damage up front" like Torb, Torb really becomes a top tier base defender pick.

Some characters just default to a better role one way or the other, and people pick up on that stuff fast. Like I'd expect to see Tracers and Reinhardts trying to do cap runs, but people like McCree, Mei and Streetpig just chilling at base.
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>>148217187
Chrome.
>>
A big mac and large fries please
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>>148217193
> retards spam all their ults
> they dont kill mercy
what elo?
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>>148217129
>over 90% of match on fire as Lucio (which I admit is not that difficult)
>didn't die once
>76 gets a card for 5 visor kills

mmhmmm
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>>148217224
There's your problem, the PoTG detected your pleb taste.
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>>148217178
Yes. At least in regards to his ult. The purpose of needing to hit the ground to set it off is to prevent him from using it while wallriding. That's a clever balance decision, unlike some other zero risk support ult in the game.
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>always lose when i'm the highest rank on the team
>always win when i'm the lowest
Fuck this game
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>>148217227
Oh I've got your big mac right here *unzips boxer briefs*
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>Enemy team has a competent Widow and Hanzo
>Their comp revolves around protecting them
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>i dont play this
>i dont play that
>i have no play time on this character

how fucking casual can you be and still attempt competitive, none of the characters have high skill floors, sure some are stronger if you perform better on them or have experience but its not that fucking hard unless you are a complete fuck up so you shouldnt play competitive in the first place
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>>148217318
Carry or get carried, seems like one works out :^)You are only human
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>>148213523
Have this as your prize for undergoing such absurd hardship.
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>>148213523
>Anyways! You have to bodyswap with any member of the Overwatch cast you wanna swap with. Doesn't matter who. You'll just get to be in their body for a month. Who do you pick?

Reinhardt.
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>>148217246
>what elo?
The toppest of all elos. Check gosugamers or esl qualifies.
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>>148217359
The only two characters i have zero tone with are zenyatta abd d.va

I'd like to think i make good life choices.
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>>148217338
No that's a single fry
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>>148217392
Fucking Lucio just trying to enjoy his pancakes.
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>>148217338
who the fuck has a zipper on their boxers

weirdo
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>>148214521
She isn't really effective enough to have as big an impact on the game as other characters, but she is extremely frustrating to fight.
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>>148216776
>rivaling bikinis
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>>148217507
>eating pancakes at a WAFFLE house

No wonder this team lost. It's full of morons.
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>>148216921
>to steal a bunch of kills from me

All that matters is that they're dead.

All that matters is that your team wins.
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>>148214616
>asian and french people wearing bikinis instead of one-piece swimsuits
>making the european wear it instead
what is this social outcast meme
>>
>>148214467
61 now what the fuck
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>>148215047

Buff Zenyatta
>>
Is there any functional stats site at this moment? They all report me as lvl 25, but I am lvl 28 already.
>>
>win match as underdog
>get a little bit more than half of the rank bar
>lose match as underdog
>lose a whole rank

what the fug
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>>148216980
Do it after you kill a bunch of enemies all at once.

Then while your foes wait to respawn, there's a high chance that at least one of them will have to bear witness to whatever inane gesture you chose in your Hero Gallery loadout.
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>>148217614
Welcome to Murrica, we have no idea what the fuck we're doing.
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>>148217340
I really hate how Geoff Johns made Barry's whole thing "MUH MOMMA!"
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>>148217614
Who the fuck eats waffles? Pancakes are the bees knees.
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>it's a Pharah spams healing requests but won't get into your line of sight or check the killfeed episode
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>enemy team has a mccree
>IT'S HIGH NOON
>lose connection to the game a few seconds later

I didn't know McDuck could hit the server when he tells the time
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>play almost exclusively Reinhardt
>very well practiced
>enemy team tries to make a push
>hammer down
>charge the stunned Roadhog into a wall, killing him
>smack both Tracers and the mercy, killing them
>only enemies left alive are a junkrat and a widowmaker
>as I am fighting the junkrat the widow headshots our 76
>he blames me completely because I wasn't standing in front of him with my shield
>he leaves the game
>reduced rank and exp
>potg is a junkrat tire that killed 2 people

Never have I gone from such a high to such a low so quickly
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>>148217693
>expecting sense from Blizzard™
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Just realized my
>Best "main" edition
Made it into the op post. I wonder how long it'll stay there.
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>Blizzard tips
>"McCree is strong against big targets due to Fan the Hammer, keep an eye out for him."
>>
>that one side of that one map where you have no clue what to do

what's her name?
>>
>>148218003
True Survivor must've given him an ultra mega [HAMMER]:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTidn2dBYbY
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>>148218048
The rocky path/tunnel just after the first cap point in Route 66. I avoid that area like the plague.
>>
>it's a "Mercy doesn't damage boost" episode
>it's a "Torbjorn doesn't provide armour" episode
>it's a "Lucio only switches to healing to heal himself" episode
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>>148218048
all of dorado on def
all of king's road between A and the last point on king's row
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>>148218048
The excavation site at Greece. I can never win during that round.
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>>148218150
I'd drop more armour if my team managed to kill anyone! I normally have to drop it for me cause I'm running around shotgunning bitches and riveting Pharahs out of the sky.
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>>148218150
>doesn't provide armour" episode

New to game.

What is armor strong against?
What is shield strong against?
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>>148218150
>it's a "lucio wall rides all the way up to widow and solos her" episode
my favorite to watch
>>
So I kind of bought into the whole "junkrat is ez kills" meme since I was consistently triple golding as him in comp. But I noticed that whenever someone else plays Junkrat, I'm somehow outdoing them in damage as 76 or Roadhog.

Are people just bad at Junk or has /owg/ peddled me another lie?
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>>148217359
>playing mccree, reaper, torbjorn or zenyatta ever
>>
As the least mobile and sustainless Offense hero should McCree kind of have insane firepower to make up for it?
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>>148218259
Seen it once, died because I was laughing too much and couldn't aim or do anything.
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>>148218260
hog gets mad damage from risk free m2ing into rein's shield
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>>148218257
armor reduces damage
shields regen
symmetra and torb are a very legitimate strat giving your entire team +100 max hp
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how the hell did we end up here
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>>148218260
Playing junkrat well needs a "I live, I explode, I live again" mentality, something most fags who just got a jester skin don't have, because >muh KDA
>>
How the fuck do I git gud with Zarya? Her gun does negligible damage, and I feel squishy without a Mercy around. I see people whining about Zarya being OP, what are those Zaryas doing?
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>>148218283
>Not playing Reaper
It's like you don't want to shred the tank meme comps.
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>>148218260
junkrat is like hanzo, their skillcaps are very low so if you git gud and pick a higher skill character like soldier or tracer you'll outperform them, but if you're an idiot you can still pick them, spam hallways and get kills. will stop working once you get to higher ranks, and then you notice the character is just fundamentally flawed because you can outsmart an arrow or a nade, but you can't outsmart a hitscan rifle

tl;dr the defense classes get outplayed and the offense classes are the one doing the outplays hence offense heroes > defense heroes
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How to convince this game that I don't deserve a shit rating?
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>>148218048
Hollywood defense
like what the fuck do I do man
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>>148218372
>Mine hopping onto the point in overtime, blowing up one enemy and killing the remaining two with Total Mayhem as I die

Feels good
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>>148218257
Armor reduces shotgun and rapid fire damage. Basically it reduces each instance of damage by 5 which is lame against snipers but good against a bunch of tiny instances of damage like Winston's gun. Shields slowly regen if you're not taking damage.
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>>148218048
i really hate this game's map design in general
>i will take this side path!
>it's just a loop backwards to the same area, does not connect forward at all
>every fucking time
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>>148218386
using their fucking shields and keeping at least 50 charge in
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>>148218386

Sounds like you're playing people that are good. so you have to go out of your way to get some charge. Try shielding and walking over junkrat grenades or bubbling someone that's about to eat a firestrike.
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>>148218372
Love getting play of the game cause I straight up kamikazed into a group and took three or four down.
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>>148218386
Learn to use your shield well. Always try to keep your party member shield on cooldown.
Once you get the charge, your damage is devastation itself.
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>>148218401
No you retard, you perform better with soldier and tracer because their skillcaps are lower
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>>148218432
You have to control both the buildings overlooking the first control point. They can't do jackshit if you have people in them.
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>>148218420
play a hero with an ounce of thought required
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Does this bitch not realize that her healing staff has a mode that increases a persons murder power? Seems pretty weaponized already tbqh famalamadingdong
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>>148218512
Dude, I love Junkrat, but his skillcap is definitely lower than Tracer or Soldier. Most of the skill for Junkrat is being able to double minehop and hit people you've bounced with concussion mines, which are quite niche skills.
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>>148218420
dies less, play a hero that can carry
>>
>No Support
>No Tank
>No Support
>Not Tank
I can't do both.
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>>148218610
literally zarya
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>>148218545
Just because you dont like something doesnt mean you arent doing it anyway.

Mercy dislikes the fighting and war but is still a part of it. Your interpretation is wrong in this case.
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>>148218048
King's Row on Attack
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I want to bang fem Zen.
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>>148218420
maybe you do?
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>Gain 4 ranks in 6 straight wins
>Afraid to ever play again

anyone else know that feel
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>>148218610
>when you need a sniper defensive support tank

roadhog it is
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>>148218545
So what? This rifle Torb designed was supposed to buff teammates by shooting them? Was it supposed to debuff enemies by shooting them?

You know what permanently debuffs people?

Death.

For several seconds anyway in the context of the game. Or less than that if a Mercy has her Ult charged.
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>>148218579
Come back when you go flying and kill pharahs in midair with direct pills

I don't think you understand what skill cap means, maybe you're thinking of skill floor
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>>148218610
>Zarya
>support
>>148218048
that dumbfuck round area in the building at Lijang tower, who the hell designed this
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>>148218432

>Bastion or Torb turret slightly off to the left facing the payload, with a McCree/Mei/Roadhog watching his sides and back
>Junkrat on the top of the traincar flank on the right, with a trap/airbag set about halfway up
>Widow sniping from behind junkrat or Reaper tank busting up near the payload
>76 and Rein holding down the payload and shooting down the mandatory Pharah on offense
>Healer
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>>148218693
I love lying in wait for pharahs with a conc mine, flying up to them and quickly conc mining/pilling them. Shoes on the other foot now, bitch.
>>
When will they let you sell skins? I don't use Hanzo and yet I have two Legendaries for him.
>>
>enemy reaper running towards the team
>literally the most telegraphed ultimate he could ever pull
>everybody still gets caught
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>>148218750
Well, if you want to get technical, Junkrat just has the one foot.
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>>148218773
never
they want people to buy boxes
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>>148218512
no they're not

you can only aim so much with junkrat until people have to actually move into your nades for you to do damage. you can only know paths so much until people shoot the tire on sighs, traps only work until people actually look at the ground

meanwhile on soldier and tracer you can grind and grind and grind your aim to the point you are basically aimbotting irl and then you are unstoppable

soldier or tracer don't need the enemy team to fuck up to deal damage, everything is on you. junkrat needs you to play well AND the enemy team to fuck up
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>>148218624
It's pretty clear Mercy uses Overwatch as a mechanism to save more lives. It's pragmatic to kill a life, who had already killed 50, to save another 100.

But the fact is her healing tech already has weaponized purposes. She is saying she doesn't want her invention being twisted into a weapon, because it might cause more harm than good. But, her shit already augments the damage of others increasing their murder power. It's already weaponized.

>>148218692
Who knows. She is throwing a fit because maybe her healing technology just looks like a gun now and that upsets her?
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>>148213523
>>148213523
>>you can bodyswap with any Overwatch character for a month
>Mercy
No. Too gracious for someone as sinful as me
>>
>>148218802
Yes, aiming a hitscan automatic weapon is more difficult than slow moving projectiles that travel in an arc.
>>
>Playing Hanamura on attack
>Get a pretty average team of me as Rein, Mercy, Zarya, Roadhog, A Torb and Soldier
>Enemy team has 5 Torbs and One Bastion
>We manage after a couple of minutes to break through and scramble to the objective after I earthshatter and Zarya and Soldier eradicate them
>Get to final point and they're all Bastion
>Minute later I earthshatter again and they're wiped out for an easy capture
>We get called cheats because apparently Bastions cant be beat on defense

Kek, I love beating people like this
>>
>>148218545
Isn't the idea that somebody already modified her staff and she uses it because she doesn't want it falling on the wrong hands? Either way Mercy has clearly had a character change, she dislikes fighting but as she gets older she realizes sometimes it's the only way. She carries a pistol with herself, I mean.
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>>148218887
>torbjörn on hanamura attack
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>>148217392
>It's the guy who made the reaper roll call comic
Thanks anon
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>>148218898
Jesus fuck I just looked it up her Pistol is also called the Caduceus Blaster, and when she uses her Caduceus healing staff, it automatically reloads her blaster.

What in the fuck, this bitch is tripping. Her tech is weaponized out the ass.
>>
>>148218953
>m-mah meta
>>
>>148218953
I know, told him that seems weird but he managed to get in and set his turret up near the little balcony, enemy team had a lot of trouble dealing with it somehow
>>
>>148219056
t. rank 30 moron
>>
Right now I'm a little conflicted on which golden is best for me.
Reaper can make a pile of golden guns.
Lucio's is subtle and he's my top support.
Rein/Winston for tank kills
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>>148213523
>you can body swap with anyone
Zenyatta so I can feel what he's talking about. Sure I'm piss frail but I'm a floating robot who has unlocked inner peace and happiness. Seems good to me
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>>148218953
>not playing Torbjorn under all circumstances

HARD
WORK
PAYS
OFF
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>>148219023
Technically, her healing staff reloading a lethal weapon and amping the damage of an ally isn't murder so much as it is manslaughter.
>>
>>148218953
I go Symmetra on Hanamura attack

It just werks
>>
>>148218898
I think she always carried a pistol in the field. Having some basic military training and knowing some form of self defence was probably a requirement of the job.
>>
>>148218898
>She carries a pistol with herself, I mean.
If mercy wasnt such a bitch about her morals she would carry an actual submachine-gun, that little PDW is just common sense at this point, who enters a battlefield without atleast a small weapon atleast.
>>
>>148219023
>a woman goes full hypocrite again
>especially the one pretending to be good
wow so unexpected
>>
Random question.
Anyone notice a weird sound effect every so often? It sounds like Mercy moaning or something. At first I thought it was just that, but then I noticed on one occurrence, both teams were all male. It's fucking weird as shit and happens like every single game.
>>
>>148218887

How much deliberate losing did you have to do to end up in the MMR abyss?
>>
>When your Lucio uses his ult on himself
>>
fuck hollywood, give me fun maps like dorado, kings row, nepal
>>
>>148219138
>deliberate
>implying QP matchmaking doesn't try to find the worst matches possible
>>
>>148219097
>dat morality lawyering to justify why your murder is okay

She is gonna become a villain just wait and see
>>
new maps when
mccree buff when
skins when

god damn blizzard stop sitting on your ass
>>
>>148219138
It was my 5th qualifier match actually
>>
>>148219125
Are you sure that's not you making the noises?
>>
>>148219167
>nepal
>fun
is this bait
>>
>>148219187
touché
>>
>>148219270
lijang > nepal > illios
>>
>>148219163

Probably a sign that he's pissed off with trying to heal a shit team and he's about to swap.
>>
>>148219238
>mccree buff when
Fuck that. He needs to be nerfed further.
>>
>>148219167
>nepal
>fun
>chokepoint central

kekd
>>
>>148219023
That's a mechanical quirk. I could've sworn Torbjorn works the same way. If you have multiple weapons it reloads if you switch. Plus in canon Mercy would not be on any of these missions.
>>
>>148219290
That's some mighty shit taste you got there anon
>>
>>148219270
>nepal
>not fun

t. non-junkrat player
>>
>>148218283
reaper is actually ridiculously strong after the mccree nerfs
>>
>>148219309
It's a gameplay design element - Her staff needs to be used for the pistol to be reloaded, simply changing to the staff will not do it.

It's an anti-scrub frustration mechanic that basically doesn't allow you to switch to your pistol when you need it but the magazine is empty.

From a narrative perspective tho it makes Mercy look like a hypocritical bitch and a pain in the ass to work with.
>>
>>148219294
How do you even nerf him further? He already has basically nothing good about him.
>>
>>148219270

The worst koth map is better than the best non-koth map, which is most of them. I actually rather like Nepal, especially the big outdoor temple one.
>>
people who hate koth are actually shit at the same and at killing things
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>>148219125

Maybe it's your mom.
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>>148219427
Nerf his flash bang.
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>when you are the shitter on the team
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Low MMR sucks really really really fat cock
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>>148219270
All KOTH maps are good compared to the trash that is the rest of the map pool.

I wish I could only play KOTH. Only good gamemode.
>>
>>148219543
>72
>hanzo
why
>>
what are the rewards for ranked?
>>
>>148219598
What do you consider low
>>
>>148219625
Do you think the world runs on memes?
>>
>>148219625
hanzo is a decent hero, it's just that most people suck dicks with him
>>
>>148214616
>Zarya
>SPETSNAZ wetsuit
all my keks
>>
>>148218953
People always underestimate the engineers
>>
>>148219627
Gold weapons, a spray, and a player icon. Finishing in the top 500 gets you an animated version of the spray.
>>
>>148219598
GIT GUD
>>
>>148219627
icon, spray and an amount of competitive points you can trade in for gold weapons (300 needed) depending on your highest season ranking

animated spray if you reach top 500
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>It's a 'Torbjorn gets play of the game by dying' episode
>>
Its safe to say anyone with an animated icon is hacking.
>>
>>148219656
It is? You're posting on a mongolian tapestry forum which runs purely on memes
>>148219657
But why not just take widow if you don't suck with snoiping?
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>>148219732
>>148219752
>tfw you will never be good enough to get a animated spray
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>have 2 euros on paypal
>"well fuck it lets get 2 crates, its not like i'll use them for something"
>get junebug the first crate with a genji pose
>get white reaper, symmetra pose and zarya highlight the second one

Jesus, the best 2 euros i have spent in a game
>>
>>148219814
Because hanzo isn't a sniper you chucklefuck.

He's a safer version of Genji and Tracer
>>
>>148219885
Is this Winston when he sees grown up tracer all sexy?
>>
>>148219125
100% sure.. Or was that a joke?
One of these days I'm going to record it.
It's driving me crazy because no one else I talked to knows what the fuck I'm talking about.
>>
so do we actually know if there's gonna be a patch today or is it all just speculation at this point?
>>
>>148219631
Below 65 imo. Its 90% lucio solo ulting themselves or no ult + speedboost combo. Up and coming genji '''''''gods''''''' people who refuse to correctly learn a tank role and
DPS superstars that stray from the team to try to get that epic potm.
>>
>>148219291
Pretty much this. Its the same thing when theres no offense ults up but they just ult and speed boost hoping people realize they need to push
>>
>Go to post on Blizzard forums
>Not allowed to since I bought the PS4 version

Hahahaha what the shit Blizzard are you for real?
>>
>>148219927
this is winston watching a mage top deck flamestrike against his board as aggro shaman
>>
To all the people who say "McCree isn't bad you just need to aim your leftclicks"

Soldier 76 exists.
>>
>>148219967
>Below 65 is "low"

Only 3% of players are over 65, dude.
>>
>>148219964
whoops meant to quote this>>148219269
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>>148218637
Really for me its king's row on defense at the part between the 1st point and the entrance to the final point. Most of the time its just a hallway of death for you as they push.

I've never seen a team NOT push through that part of the map.
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>join game
>still in setup phase (not assembly)
>3 hanzo 1 mei 1 hog
>I will be punished for leaving
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>>148219163
If it's overtime or something that's not a bad idea. He's already pretty slippery so if you can hold till your team comes to back you up it's gamesaving, nevermind worth the ult.
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>>148219967
i play lucio but dont ult + speedboost much

am i always supposed to speedboost after ult? do i amp it too?
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>we 100-0 stomp round 1
>as soon as round 2 starts 2 people leave
>dont come back
>lose 75% of a rank for this

why is this system so fucking bad how can you not see an issue with this
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>>148216064
>play tracer
>do really well
>win
>notice in end of round some other fag with ugly mach.t skin went tracer at the last second
>lel what a faggot it looks so ugly
>level up and get a loot box
>open loot box
>legendary, oh boyo!
>it's mach t racer

BLIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD. FUCK.
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>>148220063
speedboost people right into the enemy team then ult
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>>148220029
yet below 60 is definitely low, this is the third online shooter i ever played and still i managed to get 56 easily.
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>>148220091
>mach t
>ugly

Neck yourself, currently its the only decent skin she has along with slipstream and the recolors.
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>>148220063
>am i always supposed to speedboost after ult? do i amp it too?

everything is situational, usually you are supposed to amp speedboost + ult if you want to fall into the other teams defense

defensive soundbarrier into amped healing is also good because soundbarrier only gives a shield and doesnt actually heal, so you can top off hurt teammates
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>>148220115
40 and below is abysmal. 40-50 is low. 50-60 is average. 60-70 is good. Anyone above that is seriously skilled/seriously carried.
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Can't wait for the new season honestly, soft reset and i hope they actually fix this shit
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>>148220063
Speed boosted soundbarrier combo'd with ults like Deadeye, Dragonblade, Tactical visor is fucking strong and will almost always team kill.
Speedboost Soundbarrier combo is just too strong to not do a lot of the time
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>>148219783
>you get POTG by pumping rivets in every motherfucker around and 1-shotting Tracer and Reaper
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>>148219917
lmao what
he's not a flanker at all
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>>148220306
>safer
key word
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>>148220342
safer what
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>>148219967
I'd say 60 is the cutoff. I recently dropped back into the low 60s, and playing in games that average below 60 are fucking awful
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>>148219878
it's the same spray as the normal one except the waves move slightly

you won't even notice it
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>>148220060
UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND
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Mercy might automatically ask for help sometimes but there really should be a "Help me!" voice command with an icon popping up. If Genji is allowed to constantly cry for healing from halfway across the map the Support classes should be able to cry for help when they're being chased around by a giant gorilla and no one does anything about it.
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>>148220149
>mach.t better than t.racer

uhhh, NO.

IDIOT.
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>yesterday over half of the games were losing stomps
>today all the games are winning stomps
I don't understand this game desu.
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>>148220378
>>148220180
>>148220115
>>148219967
>90 percent of players are shit
Fuck off with this shit, if you want to go circle jerk over the smell of your own farts go to /v/
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>>148220478
loool @ this triggered 40-50s n00b
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>So many scrubs under 70

Do you guys even try? It's not even hard, seeing all these casual fucks under 70 is making me sick, you guys need to git gud.
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>>148220442
>If Genji is allowed to constantly cry for healing from halfway across the map
Are you a mercy player? That shit was cue af tbqh
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>>148220458
we lost this game
nothing you can do will sway a game one way or the other
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>>148220458
Every time I get stomped I use prefer this player and get teamed up with the people who stomped me. I'm basically building my own quickplay experience.
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>>148220458
forced fiddy
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>>148220507
TWO THOUSAND GAMES NzNr
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I honestly don't see how can anyone think a character with 3 blinks on an extremely low cooldown, a get out of jail free card, 240 dps weapons able to headshot with the fastest reload in the game, and a bomb that sticks to people for a guaranteed kill can be OP.

I mean if she was OP we would see teams running 2 Tracers all the time, or everybody swapping to her when the game is about to end, or KotH being based around Tracer, but none of these are happening. She's totally fine.
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>>148220372
"safer what" XDD
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>>148220507
Why even bother marking out your name, NzNr
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>>148220507
Whats the point in censoring your name when anyone can just look it up on the ladder, retard?
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Why do Reaper with Roadhog still do considerable amount of damage at distance D.Va does literally zero?
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>>148220645
he doesn't play like tracer or genji and doesn't have the same function as them
stupid ass dork
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>somedays shred and melt enemy hp
>otherdays literally do 0 damage
whats going on
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>>148220507
>rank 77
>everyone can look up the ladder
>hiding name anyway

and thats why people will never take NA players serious, you guys have a retarded playerbase and are proud of it
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>>148220591
>quick play shitters
Was talking about ranked.
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>>148220507
>waaah waah why everyone is not an autist neckbeard basement dweller playing shooter games for years
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>>148220668
>>148220656
>>148220606
>falling for the bait
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>>148220673
Infinite ammo. Most of it comes down to her being able to fire indefinitely without reloading. Seriously not worth it. Just like that rocket launcher in Tf2. 1 extra rocket? No need to look for ammo packs? Big whoop the rest of the weapon is garbage.
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>Quality matchmaking
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>>148220762
Was all too easy, I love how fucking easy it is to bait and troll you guys, 222222 eeeeeee zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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>>148220826
hes just a really good level 10 :^) wow level means nothing man didnt you hear
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>>148210410
any news regarding character changes/buffs/nerfs/new content?
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>>148220826
>still bitching about quick play
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>>148220735
Oh. Just friend and queue up with the stompers (on either side). You aren't solo queueing, are you?
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>>148220149
Sporty is pretty nice...
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>>148220876
sombra today
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>>148220673
Because she doesnt have restricted mobility, has a "shield" that despawns all kinds of projectiles, even S76/mccree shots, can just fly through character models while other characters get bodyblocked, has 500 armor, has a second life, can call in infinite amounts of mekas.

D.va would be too strong if she had damage.
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>>148220826
I had some level ~12s in my game who rekt our entire team
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>>148220149
>liking shitstream
>liking bike helmet
literally kys
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>>148220906
>not solo queueing
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>>148220891
Still the largest part of the game retard.
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>>148221015
>implying we see the bike helmet
her peashooters become eye candy you inbred fuck just stop posting
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>fucking hate Torbjorn cause he is boring as fuck to play and a gay little dwarf neckbeard
>last week got THREE fucking Torbjorn legendaries in lootboxes in a row
>today finally see another gold
>its a fucking duplicate of a legendary torb skin I already have
>will never use the skins ever
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>>148220673
>reaper
>damage at distance

you're right about roadhog though
his right click is down syndrome tier design
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>>148220826
Instead of complaining why don't you learn from those players?

A lot of hero nuances and not-so straightforward things I learned from playing with high level QP players.
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>>148221053
>m-muh gun with stickers
Yeah, no one will miss you, kys
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Is it possible for 6 really co-ordinated Meis to delay a game indefinitely?
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Can someone explain this to me? How come there are days where I win or lose 95% of my matches? This seems too unlikely to be just a coincidence. Is it the matchmaking? Today I've been on a losing spree. Yesterday I won every single match. What. The. Fuck.
>>
>>148221067
I feel the same way. It's too rewarding for missing your hook.
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>>148221178
quality blizzard matchmaking
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>>148221178
forced

fifty
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>>148221178
Blizz MM is shit
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>>148221178

>Win all day one day
>Lose all day next day

Forced 50
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>>148221140
will you miss me? *kyses you back*
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>>148221158
i want to put my face in there and die
>>
I had forgotten how absolutely shitty Blizzard's balance and how lazy they are.
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>tfw just climbed 10 ranks in one week
>54-64
>5 levels of which were achieved today in just 2 hours


maybe I got lucky but man it feels good
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>still no mei animated short
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>>148221178
It could be an extreme case of Dunning-Kruger or something. Like you stomp all day so the matchmaker decides you get to fight with the big boys but they're way out of your league and you get stomped. So the matchmaker thinks you're a toddler now and throws you in with the toddlers but you're way out of their league...

Rinse and repeat.
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>one person on your team doesn't understand how Zarya works
>game is instantly lost

nice hero
oh somebody fucked up and hit her shield? well i hope you enjoy a tank with reaper tier DPS that can teamwipe you by herself!
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>>148221178
people blame match making
mercy players blame there teams
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>>148221327
I need this.
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>>148221305
Reminder that there are still people that believe Blizzard is a good company
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>shitters think rank 50 is average
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>>148221305
remember how long it took them to remove the real money auction house in diablo

still laughing, blizzard is so shit at everything now
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>>148221335
No, this doesn't work this way here. Expecially ridiculous when consecutive ranked puts you in a winning games but QP puts you with retards every single time
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>>148221208
>>148221214
>>148221217
>>148221219
>>148221305
>>148221335
I thought it was just a meme. Will this get fixed anytime soon?
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>>148221403

Reminder that there are people in THIS THREAD that think Blizzard are their friends, rather than a company, and will actually defend them as such.
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Tracer is the biggest cancer I've ever had to play against.

I honestly believe whoever designed her forgot this is a MULTIPLAYER GAME and people are going to have to play against that.
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>>148221406
it literally is
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>>148221305
For u
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>>148218791
Nobody expects Reaper
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>>148221453
Blizzard can't even fix something as stupid as 76' weapon spread, do you really think they can get something as complicated as proper MM right?
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>>148220446
t. buttblasted tracer main who got the other shitty generic black recolor
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>>148221487

>Warcraft 2
>1195

Aged pretty well considering desu senpai
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>>148221453
Likely never and I mean it.
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>>148221519
what's wrong with 76 weapon spread?
>>
Is it possible for attackers to lose the weekly brawl? Done about a dozen of them and attackers won every time and it wasn't even that close.
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>Sent pictures of my penis to some guy on the internet so he'd buy me overwatch
am I gay now?
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>>148221562
>shoot 4 shots
>let go of mouse button for 1/1000 of a second
>spread is now reset to 0 for the next for shots
If you play him correctly, you only need to stop shooting to reload and you have basically 0 spread.
>>
Maintenence soon, lads
What to expect?
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>Welcome to Hollywood
>Traveling to Route 66
>Welcome to Ho
>Traveling t
>W

STOP GIVING ME THESE SHITTY FUCKING MAPS
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>>148221453

No. 100% serious, they will never fix it. They have a track record over a decade long of not fixing the most glaring issues with their games. They'll just ignore it for as long as it takes for everybody to just give up and forget about it.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJr68U7K-wA

Also reminder that Tracer and Mercy needs a nerf as fast as possible, since they are the only heroes who alone can turn the sides of a match, without teamplay, you know like the game is meant to be played
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>0% - 35%
>Eliminations: 2
>Gold
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>>148221609
Fuck, I just bought the game. How long does it last?
>>
why are all my QP games lately teams without even a support

i know i know quick play is fucking worthless but let's not pretend the game is winnable without a support and let's not pretend "it's just for fun haha" applies when you will just be banging your head against a wall and scrambling for healthpacks
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>>148219542
>when an enemy is hit by the flashbang, they get a pop up asking for consent to the stun
Fair enough?
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>>148221384
It happens with every teamplay game. Matchmaking is shit and my teams hold me back. It's the oldest meme in the book.

If you're not playing a shitload of OW comp, you're never gonna play with people around your level. Over the course of hundreds of games your "shit teams" and losses become an annoyance and your own play tipping the scales is what can move you up or down.

People also forget that if you're not disgustingly better than the people you're getting matched with, you don't deserve to climb and you're likely playing with people around your level.
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>>148221601
Lol fucking cheap whore
>>
>>148221702
7-9 am PDT (UTC-8)
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>>148221453
They won't. It's been like this in HotS since the game was released too.
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>>148221625
The entire fucking offense section of the game needs a fucking nerf except for McCree who was already promptly gutted

But Genji and Tracer need it more than anyone else since Blizzard thought it would be fun to absolutely murder the only character that countered them and then sit on their dick for months without any further balance changes while these two shit up EVERY SINGLE GAME they're in
>>
>>148221609
>What to expect?
nothing?
its just maintenance, nothing happens, they might just restart the servers
>>
>>148221713
>banging your head against a wall and scrambling for healthpacks
play soldier or roadhog then
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>>148221713
Sounds like you should pick a support my man.
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>>148221158
Somebody else understands me.
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>>148221784
Mr. Monkey Man takes care of both
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>>148221625
>Tracer capable of doing anything alone
Did I miss something?
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>>148221713
>wondering why people dont want to play the boring role and characters

gee golly!
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>>148221784
reaper and Soldier are fine
genji does no damage
tracer maybe
pharah needs decent splash damage and a 50 hp buff
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>>148221802
That's what they want you to think
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>>148221885
At High MMR she can pretty much kill/finish an entire team alone. A good tracer can solo all tanks 1v1.
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>>148221913
>lucio
>boring
>>148221916
>reaper
>fine
>genji
>no damage
>buffing pharah
kys
>>
>>148221713
It's because Blizzard is incompetent at game design and they added an integral-yet-boring role to the game that is necessary in every game or else you will lose, but is also guaranteed to be no fun at all.

I'm sick of this modern "class-based online multiplayer xD" meme in modern game design where 1/3 of every team needs to play a de facto boring character or else you lose
>>
>>148221991
What's your alternative then
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>>148221916
>soldier
>fine
maybe after they fix his spread, because right now he basically doesn't have any.
>>148221980
Maybe if the entire enemy team is too retarded to hit a moving target
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>queue
>2 bronzes
>win
>queue
>4 golds
>lose

convince me that a contest isnt determined by the matchmaker at game start
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>>148221327
I don't know if I could handle the cute.
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>>148221987
Lucio gets boring when you need him on your team and no one will change
>>
>>148221913
Lucio and Zenyatta are fun. If you learn wallriding you'll want to be Lucio in Numbani and Anubis every time.
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Guys how bad is rank 49? I placed 45, and have been very slowly climbing my way up. I am so scared of falling down low where people no longer think about team comps or even try. I end up always playing a support or a tank at my rank
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dunno how you guys manage to rank up solo

been stuck 61-64 for like 3 days
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>>148222027
Are you for real? Are you this brainwashed by modern gaming? You can't think of a single alternative to "online multiplayer class-based combat only xD"?
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>>148222060
>Game you won people carried you
>Game you lost you couldn't carry or get carried

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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>>148221987
what is wrong with reaper
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>xui pui mui kyo po lulu ching chong
Why is chinese so fucking disgusting?
>>
>>148222086
Protip: just stop caring about rank
Especially with how much of a shitshow this first season has been
It doesn't matter, all it gets you is points to trade in for golden guns at the end of a season
>>
>>148221717
Widowmaker looks untrustworthy.

I dislike the French.
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>soldier 76
>has a biotic field that heals himself and teammates
>unable too see teamamtes health

arent soldiers usually trained in first aid, hes a pretty shit soldier then tbqh w/ u famalam
>>
>>148222060
It literally is. I got placed at 52, pretty average, after playing my placement matches. Then played some games and dropped all the way down to 47 due to getting absolute retards in my team. Then I got on a lucky row and am at rank 56 now by winning most of my games. I havent improved in any significant way, I just stopped getting double hanzos and attack bastions in my teams.
>>
>>148221991
Only Mercy actually fits the boring stereotype. It just seems more pronounced right now because Zenyatta was nerfed into irrelevance.
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>>148222086
ive been at and around 49 for days now. its not even that im getting tired of playing support/tank. what really gets me is that i find myself wishing there was two of me so i can both heal and tank when i have to choose one because nobody else will do either.
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>>148222168
think you can turn on health bars as him, in options
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>>148221881
>Winston
>Countering Tracer in any way

Well meme'd, luv
>>
>>148222168
You can turn it on in the options. Why haven't you already?
>>
>>148222168
there's an option to enable teammate health bars though
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>>148222124
So you want everyone to be exactly the same, with the same load out and abilities with no room for any outside variables?
No items, Fox only, Final Destination?

Also, just play support, it won't kill you
>>
>>148222124
You obviously can't :)
>>
Mercy is the worst designed character in the game.
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>>148221916
reaper shouldn't be able to contest nor pick up packs while invuln
soldier should be balanced around spread yet he can fire full auto with 100% accuracy which is completely retarded, he is way too well-rounded, 170 dps up to 35 meters away very mobile healing statio as powerful as mercy pharah m2 i mean come on something has to give
genji does a shitton of damage
tracer does way too much damage
pharah is perfectly fine and she shouldn't bounce you around with every single rocket she hits
>>
>>148222196
Exactly. Thats kind of why I end up playing Zarya a lot. Not that there needs to be two of me, but more like, it'd be nice to have someone go a tank. When a rein or a Zar shows up, I can actually breath easy a bit
>>
what do you mean you don't like double lucio/zarya in comp?
>>
>>148222289
That's not Hanzo and/or Roadhog
>>
>tires can go through rein shield
fuck off
>>
>>148222192
Lucio is boring as shit

Like he's fun one or two games but after a while it gets boring really fast
>>
mercy should have an 'i'm about to be assassinated by a flanker please turn around for the love of god' voice line desu
>>
>>148222124
Go play CoD or any other popular shooter in the last decade where everyone's roles are pretty much the same. There's like two popular class based shooters. This game and Tf2. They clearly aren't for you.
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>>148222295
Fuck nerfing everyone's damage so then no one fucking dies.
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>>148222217
>>148222230
>>148222241
holyshit do i feel stupid now
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>>148222354
>he doesn't battle mercy
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>>148222160
Well, I understand that it really should be about placing you around people your level, so everyone has a roughly equal skill level in their games, thats fine. The only problem is, at what rank do people actually start thinking about team comps instead of just locking their 'fun' heroes? I always try and play with a comp in mind, but I still see people play shitty Genji's on defense and shitty bastions on offense. And I still sometimes see Hanzos.
>>
>>148222289
she is actually one of the best designed characters in the game
>needs effort to heal properly
>is put in danger if teammates play dangerous
>ult actually has an impact
>needs to balance buff and heal
Unlike Lucio, she is actually a well designed healer.
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>>148221784
The Offense characters don't need to be nerfed as much as the other characters need more options for fighting them off. They first fucked with McCree in the beta when they made his damage falloff pathetic so he could no longer shoot down Pharahs (a side effect of them nerfing his ability to shoot Widowmakers), and now they took away his ability to control Genjis, Tracers and Reapers (a side effect of them nerfing his ability to melt tanks)
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>>148222192
Why do people say Lucio is fun. He is only fun if you are not playing him correctly and you go speed mode all game jumping around. In reality all you will be doing is sitting in heal mode for 80% of the game shooting a slow-projectile weapon while standing behind reinhart's shield and not doing anything too risky. Lucio is only fun if you play it wrong and leave your whole team in the dust.
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>>148221784
>Offense needs to be nerfed
>when tanks completely dominate the meta

yeah OK
>>
>>148222354
I'M UNDER ATTACK
I COULD USE SOME ASSISTANCE
HELP ME

None of these ring a bell?
>>
>>148222309
>was dropping ranks in comp soloqueue
>started playing Zarya
>65% win rate

She is a great character to carry people with. You can prevent so much deaths by shielding at the right moment, and this really lets your team swing the match,
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>>148222385
you get retards even at 70, shit never stops.
>>148222425
Blizz can't into balance
that was to be expected
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>>148222367
then fucking buff defense classes so they can actually you know defend points and not just get their shit destroyed by lol im genji and jump all over the place spamming retardedly high damage shurikens or tracer the "my guns are actually reaper shotguns" whore
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>>148222469
Either he's playing the Mercy, and doesn't think thats enough (I'd personally want to start spamming that shit when I see a Genji or someone flanking me on the horizon) or he's a braindead dps, like the rest of them
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>>148213867
D. Va's fine, Just use her on payload missions on the attack.
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>>148222348
Maybe if you're shit at him. He can fight while healing, can get environmental kills, and has a fun wallriding gimmick that allows you to go anywhere and dodge most attempts to kill you if you master it. You hardly have to babysit anyone.
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>>148222469
she does that whenever she loses 1HP

do you really think people turn around anymore when she auto-cries?
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>>148222469
those just mean that dva is spraying across the map or i got clipped while flying across covers. they don't mean i am about to die if you do not turn around and shoot at the reaper trying to shove his gun into my anus.
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>>148222463
the meta is offense + tanks with the 2 required characters on the side (mercy and lucio because we're blizzard and don't know how to design a multiplayer without required healers)
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Eliminate supports. The role is inherently unfun and is not necessary. Redesign the game to accommodate for the change (more health paks or whatever). There, I fixed your game.
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What's the next weekly brawl going to be?

Will it be fun?
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>>148222554
Yeah he's so secretly fun he has the same problem as Mercy that is that people just don't pick him.

People like killing power and Lucio has almost none, period.
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Post torb potgs.
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>>148222263
>So you want everyone to be exactly the same, with the same load out and abilities with no room for any outside variables?
Yep sounds like an absolute dream. True skill rises to the top. I'm not an ADHD faggot so I don't need "classes" or other gay gimmicks to muddy the waters. I'm only interested in intense skill-based action. Imagine if every game of chess, you played a "class" that had different "epic abilities xD" like being able to move rooks an extra square and all the chess grandmasters "countered" each other by picking different "classes". That would be fucking retarded and a distraction from actual skill level. It's a modern gaymen meme that if you can't design a game, just slap some classes on it and call it a day, it will satisfy the modern ADHD generation.

>>148222363
CoD is absolute horse shit, but also has class-based meme at the same time. There hasn't been a "popular shooter in the last decade where everyone's roles are pretty much the same." That does not exist.
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>>148222469
>that noise she makes when winston is shocking her
could listen to that all day
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>>148222483
>you get retards even at 70

Oh jesus, is there no end to this hell. I might as well just wallow at low MMR then
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>>148222415
Some of this is wrong.

>needs to balance buff and heal

Not unique to her. Speed/Healing.

>ult

Extremely forgiving with no counterplay. Just press q. Lucio beats her here as far as design goes. They actually accounted for how it could be cheesed if he didn't need LoS or to be touching the ground.
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>>148222615
Remove all ults off supports and the role is fixed
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New maps when?
Hanzo deleted when?
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HOW TO FIX MEI

>Ice Wall slows and deals a small amount of damage over time (to stop shields and mercy regenerating) to nearby enemies

>Freezing occurs at 50 damage, rather than 70

Fixt
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>>148222685
I'm more partial to Dva's shocking
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>>148222112
>stuck in high percentage
>complaining
You either go full tryhard or stop caring at this point
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>>148222741
thank god retards like you don't work for blizzard
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>>148222741
I can see the first change but not the second
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>>148222263
so brainwashed by modern games that he can't imagine how people can be different without unlocking champions or customizing their epic loadout. What a fucking farce.

You think all basketball players play exactly the same way and they are all the same player and it's really boring to watch and play because everyone is "exactly the same"?
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>>148222681
Then don't play Overwatch? This is advertised as a class based shooter with the exact opposite of your dream. Why go to a chinese restaurant if you hate chinese? You saw the chingchong letters outside.
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>>148222725
>speed healing
speed is not that important compared to her damage buff. Also Lucio can shoot and heal and has a powerful rightclick.
Lucio is too braindead to play and requires 0 effort compared to Mercy.
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i main lucio and cosplay as him 24/7 because im not white

eu or us i dont mind

holeyy#2424 :^)
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>>148222741
HOW TO FIX MEI
>ICICLES ARE ALWAYS HEADSHOTS
>PLAYERS CAUGHT IN THE ULTIMATE ARE NOW FROZEN FOR THE REST OF THE REMAINING ROUND
>FRIENDLIES ARE HEALED IN ULTIMATE
>MEI GETS 6 NEW SKINS

ok
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>>148222143
How braindead easymode he is
>>148222167
honhonhon
*throws venom mine*
*grapple hooks into the sunset*
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>>148222882
>speed is not that important
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>holding down objective b after barely losing a
>shielding forever as rein, team is actually doing well
>"you will be kicked for inactivity if you keep it up"
>surely it is joking, I am walking around, dropping the shield between waves and throwing out zoning blasts
>"you have been kicked for inactivity"
I don't even
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>>148221178
>climbed 10 ranks yesterday, stomping every game with 3-4 golds
>lost all 10 ranks today, still with 3-4 golds every game
idk man fuck this game
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>>148222859
Because I live in a place where the only restaurants in the entire town are chinese, everyone around me loves chinese and only chinese food, and the old indian restaurant that I loved converted into a chinese restaurant because it would make more money.
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nth for
Sombra when?
New maps when?
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>>148222882
stfu with your pub scrub opinions ty xx
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>>148222928
it really isn't, unless you have a cooldown between fights or when you need to get back to the point.
There is rarely any time where one doesn't make clearly more sense than the other.
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Flashbang stun duration raised to 1.0 seconds with intense motion blur added for 3 seconds solid with 1 second of fade time

D.va mobility debuff while firing removed

Wraith form no longer allows reaper to interact with ANYTHING except souls and Sym teleporter. Both orbs types leave him, can't be trapped, stuck, armored, Shielded, healed, pick up health packs etc.

Zenyatta top speed raised by 15% and acceleration curve increased by 2x allowing him to juke and reposition faster.

Fucking fixed game.
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>>148222642

If it's not Mystery Heroes it'll be shit.

All other brawls a shit.
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>>148222112
Been stuck in 61-65 elo hell since placements. Guess that's my shitter corner forever.
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>>148217392
Poor Ganymede.
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>>148222993
You don't need healing when you can dodge incoming damage.
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>>148222669
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>>148222334
D.Va's ult gets blocked like nobody's business but a fucking tire ignores it completely.
The one saving grace is a well placed fire blast will shut it down hard.
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>>148222463
Which is basically a loop.

Tanks are extremely strong. Offense classes are the only ones who can reliably kill tanks. A Zarya (the supposed squishiest tank) can tank a Torb turret for like 10 seconds and get 50 charge for her troubles. Mei is useless since Reaper just KILLS people in melee range rather than just slow them. Bastion can get cornerpeeked to death by literally anybody.
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How to really fix mei:

>Ice wall buff from >>148222741


>Increase Ice Block size by about 2.5x, so she can be a really, really annoying cunt and block shit for her team and block enemy movement

Alternatively

>Ice block also deals small amount of damage and contributes to freeze like ice wall and freeze ray
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>>148222660
I see Lucio picked all the time. Even in QP. Definitely more than Mercy. He also does have killing power but it's high risk (as it should be). Two full waves of his projectiles actually do a surprisingly amount of damage if they all land, especially if they crit. It's their slow speed that makes it tricky at a distance. This means you need to get close but it also makes you an easier targets.
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>hate support in league of legends
>pick lucio in overwatch
>have tons of fun pushing people away and ambiently healing my team to vitcory

why is support in overwatch so much more fun?
is it because i'm shit at overwatch and this is the way to get carried?
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Is there anything that makes people more mad than Bastion potgs?
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>>148221158
D.Va pls
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>>148222946
This is the chinkiest place on the market and was that from the start. You could at least try to go to the chinese place that used to be a 50s diner.
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>>148223128
That only works if you play against retards that are too stupid to aim
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>>148222642
Brother's Brawl

Hanzo vs Genji

Hanamura
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>>148223246
>played League of Clicking Gay Animals For The First 10 Minutes of Every Match, at any point in his lifespan, ever

ok man you can kill you'reself
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>win 2 games in a row
>1 guy in their team leaves at the last minute in both games so I get shit EXP
>lose once and drop a whole rank

Why the fuck does Blizzard punish me like this? `How fucking retarded can they be?
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>>148223246
>>hate support in league of legends
you arent stuck with a retard for 10 minutes in the same lane and arent allowed to move anywhere because you have to make sure he can farm for said minutes without getting outpressured

also overwatch is a shooter and you can defend yourself and arent forced to change your gameplay because your meme character is better lategame than early
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>>148223246
Nah blizz actually made a good job here
All the supports aside from zen are pretty enjoyable to me personally
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>>148223294
>you only win against teams that are worse than yours
wow you don't say

If your team is shit and the enemy team isn't, your shitty healing won't save you either.
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>>148222681
You sound retarded, what's your b.net so I can never play with you ever
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>>148218307
I thought that was his niche? Did I miss a patch? What happened while I was out of town?
>>148222463
W-we have McCree and Reaper to bust tanks r-right?
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>solo, matched with five other solos
>matched with two three stacks
>oh fuck this
>defending hollywood
>hold them back, can't even cap the point
>switch sides
>spawn
>get to point
>shoot some bad guys
>cap point
>win
>literally easiest game ever
>and we all had 60-65 skill ranks
umm
???
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>>148222845
Sports are boring, man
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Do you only get free loot boxes from level ups? Is there any other way to earn the coins to buy stuff?
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>>148216816
12 tracers?
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>>148223408
McCree was nerfed rather than rebalanced.
I think there's an important distinction to be made there.
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>>148222882
>speed is not that importantq
shut the fuck up lmao
dumb ass sub 60 shitter
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>>148223404
>heal
>damage gets reduced
>speedboost
>enemy team can aim
>damage is the same as without speedboosting
stop being retarded anon
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What do you guys think is the lowest competitive rank people play at, at the moment? What do you guys think its like down there?
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>>148223442
Had the same happen on ching chong tower earlier.
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>>148223480
you get coins only through lootboxes, lootboxes are gained through levels or microtransactions
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>>148223532
I think the lowest ranks with actual population have to be the 30-35 bracket. I'm sure there's people between 20-30 but not many.
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>>148223527
If the enemy "can aim" you'll die within two seconds anyway, healing or not. At least zooming around fast reduces the odds of being hit.
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is this normal?
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tfw been saving for 2 weeks for a legendary skin and are close 965/1000 but u get the exact thing u want on a loot box and now got all those coins to spend on another legendary
I love this ty blizzard
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>>148223649
yes, because every hero has 1000 dps
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>>148223408
McCree was basically removed from the game. Blizzard thought it would be interesting to remove his rightclick entirely, while also forgetting his rightclick kept characters like Tracer or Genji in check.

But rejoice! Soldier doing 170 dps at 35 meters with 0 recoil is considered balanced, on top of having a cooldown-less sprint, the second strongest heal in the game, aimbot and rockets!
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>>148222932

Clearly Blizzard wants you to charge down their hallway of death leaving your team defenseless.
It's forced 50 integrating itself mid-game.
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>>148223720
>while also forgetting his rightclick kept characters like Tracer or Genji in check.
why do people keep saying this
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>>148223442
You mean that things don't always turn out only one way? That's fucking crazy, anon.
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>Rank 75 on PS4
that game streaming website/lawryuzaki/v/76079199
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>>148223328
>he doesn't like clicking gay animals
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>>148223665
Yes.
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>>148223686
Yes, because a Soldier or Tracer that can aim will end you without reloading.
You only need 100 DPS to kill any relevant hero.
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>>148223769
probably because it's true

now you will say "just lmb him it's fine"
without realizing you're just proving me right, if rmb is so useless you don't even want to use it against a STILL TARGET IN MELEE RANGE then what fucking use does the skill have
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fucking fuck fuck genji try hards. 2 winston on enemy still wont change he's fucking ninja.
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>>148214883
even the pros are shit

anything less than rank 1 worldwide is pretty shit desu
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>>148223720
he definitely needs some love, I would like to see a reduced CD on flash, maybe even reset after kill to help land those m1 headshots when needed since fan is only good for finishing off enemy with <40hp
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Who's got the edgy Reaper collection?
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>>148215852
>Symmetra, Tracer, Widow legendaries
>I don't play Symmetra
>Aim goes haywire with Tracer for some reason
>Can't snipe for shit
>mfw I play Zarya and her legendaries are not that good (Siberian) and complete shit (Punk)
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>>148223272
Torbjorn PotG with him just jacking it in a corner.
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>>148223818
he never countered genji
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>tfw you will never be ster_'s healslut
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>>148223892
no less than 20cm/360
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>>148223892
>$101 to kill yourself
Kinda steep.
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Never get the kneeling victory pose for Streetrat

shits spooky
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>>148223969
could probably get a better deal by sticking a fork in a toaster
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>>148223720
Aimbot isn't that strong of an ult. I don't know why it's brought up as part of something that makes him overpowered. It's a worse Deadeye in some circumstances and a poor man's Death Blossom in others. It doesn't even have the most overpowered property of a true aimbot and that's instantly snapping on anyone trying to attack you from behind.
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>>148223272
I honestly get the most mad from free out of jail skills.
Roadhog's 300 heal over 1sec
Mei's iceblock
Winstons's ult that instantly gives him 500hp
Torbjorn's ult that instantly gives him and his turret +300hp
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Why does Roadhog's hook go through D.Va's shield and at the same time cancels it?
>>
post more mercy comics please
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>>148223997
tfw i will never get a junkrat legendary
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>quickplay
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>people accusing me of trolling or not wanting to win when I play Torbjorn on attack

Why are people such sheep? At least give me a chance to get out the gate before you start spamming threats to report me.

Torbjorn is powerful as fuck, people just don't know how to play him because years of tf2 have taught people that a sentry will protect them.
>>
>Nepal
>losing
>teammate switches to Zenyatta
>losing even harder now that we have a Zenyatta
>teammate finally switches when it is far too late
>lose
>check his profile afterwards
>42 minutes TOTAL as Zenyatta
>and he chose KOTH to pick him

I fucking hate people. How is that even a reasonable idea?
>>
>>148223892
A low sensitibity, so no more than a 1000 dpi and no more than like 8 in-game. And that is already high so probably lower than that, but at this point it's up to preference.
>>
>never play Junkrat out of spite and principle
>comp on Dorado
>Defense
>getting our shit pushed in despite us pushing the objective all the way last round
>fuck it, enable cheese mode
>immediately turn the game around and stop them near the last checkpoint

Junkboi really is brain dead to play as, isn't he
>>
>>148223892
3
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>>148224138
>silly comps
>D.VA
>no hanzo
>no one is raging
I miss QP.
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>>148224041
It's an instant reload, at worst it's the same as Deadeye (make everybody run for cover) and it also gives you a faster reload.

But the problem with Soldier is that he basically is the only hero in the game that is ALWAYS good to have and has no counters whatsoever on top of a strong fucking kit and ridiculous damage at most ranges.
>>
>>148224232
yes
>>
>literally dropped 10 ranks in 24h
wew lad
>>
>>148224232
Against a shit team, yeah. If you're playing against a good team you will have to try quite hard with positioning/aiming to make him work.
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>>148224260
Literally the point of the character. He is the silver medal in every category character. Other characters have specialties that they can do better than him in. Plus heavy disadvantages to bring them back down with.
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>>148224393
If it helps, another guy switched to Junkrat at the same time I did, so we had 2Junk, it wasn't me alone
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>>148224448
Also, Junkrat is very strong on the last checkpoint of Dorado, since it's hard for Pharah to get above him effectively. That makes things a whole lot easier.
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>>148224426
Yeah except more than the silver medal right now he is the gold medal.

If you want to make a character that does everything you don't make him second best at everything, you make him decent at everything.
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>>148210410
I know literally nothing about this game but I just came to say THICC
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>>148224260
It's really a design problem. There's a reason Tf2 didn't have a basic automatic rifle guy and went with mostly shotguns and projectiles as its bread and butter. This game sort of tried the same thing but because they had a hitscan rifle guy characters like Pharah with her ridiculous mobility was allowed to exist and be considered balanced despite half of the cast having little means to deal with it.
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>>148224185
I still can't figure out how to play Torb. I can't even really tell when a Torb teammate is doing well or not.

I've seen him used well on attack a few times, though. Genjis and Tracers will have less free rein on your back line, and if you do manage to claim ground he makes it harder to reclaim it. (and armor adds to momentum for to help guarantee steamrolls)
>>
I got a sweet new surround sound headset, but now the games sound cues are localized and sound very distant sometimes. things like high noon or genjis weeb shit

how do i fix this
>>
>>148224292
lol git gud
>>
>>148224185

You're not only playing a shitty hero

You're playing a shitty hero in a weird position

Of course people are gonna be mad
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>>148223892
>>148224219
>>148224249
are you guys memeing or do you really recommend such a low sens?

the default 15 felt too slow so i've been played on 20 in game with a $5 mouse
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>>148223790
looks like a bot match
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I hope they buff zen so that faggots stop complaining when i pick him
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>enemy team completes the objective in liek 15 minutes, constantly in overtime
>my team completes the objective in barely three minutes
>lolcoinflip
>lose
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Holy shit nerf hanzo

>100-0 any 250 hp characters by by spamming scatter shot
>OHK headshots
>yet doesnt need to aim

nerf this character by forcing aiming, you cant aim, you arent going to do well.
>>
=== CHARACTERS WITH THE MOST DISGUSTING VOICE LINES THAT ONLY SUBHUMAN FAGGOTS WOULD LIKE ===

1. dva
2. reinhardt
3. pharah
4. tracer
5. zarya

wish i could disable sounds for them
>>
>>148224581
Ultimate sound queues have deliberately vague directions. They can make it so you know exactly what direction that Junkrat tire is coming from, but they choose not to.

Never played without surround sound headphones, so I can't say what it's like with just Dolby Atmos.
>>
>>148224670
there isn't really a point to him as there's never a point where you wouldn't rather have a lucio or a mercy as a second healer
>>
>>148224713
IS THIS EASY MODE? ;)))))))))))))
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>>148224185

Just pick something else you colossal faggot.

Srs question: don't you feel embarrassed when you get potg and you're just walking around our hammering your turret? I always felt mortified on the few occasions I played toblerone.
>>
>>148224670
>27% accuracy
>>
How do we fix the leaver epidemic?
>>
>>148224710
you need to aim mate
if you miss your shots you're fucking useless
>>
You're playing Hanzo and the game is in overtime, the enemy team hold the point at 99% and your team is coming from the spawn room to try and capture the point but they wont make it unless you reset the timer.

Do you:

A- Jump on the point for the team
B- Use your ultimate and get no kills
C- Stand there firing pot shot arrows at no one in particular
D-Run away like a little bitch
>>
>>148224713
What's wrong with tracer and zarya?
>>
>>148224713
>not going 6 tracer and spamming hello the entire match
It's the cutest shit I've ever heard.
>>
this game is so unfun
>zarya
>reaper
>roadhog
every fucking game and the only "counter" is picking the same boring shit against it
>>
>>148224545
The problem is, at least in terms of FPS, if your character's main weapon can deal with everything (even just decently) they always have the potential to be a gold medal in the right hands. They could swap his E for something less useful and he'd still be a great pick. Basically Soldier was a mistake (even if he grew on me and I like him).
>>
>>148224713
>Not using her "Crush" emote with the "I'll break you" voice line

I'll break you
>>
>>148224838
you can pick tracer and 76 against reaper and hog
>>
>>148224713
HEHE

EL OH EL
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>>148224713
I love every single D.Va voice line.
>>
>>148224602
>No precision at all but you only have to move your wrist slightly
>A lot of precision but you have to do a bigger movement to turn around quickly
Gee I wonder which one is better for FPS games
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>people actually thought this game would be fun for more than a month

K e k
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How true is this, /owg/?
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>>148224814
Out of the forty hours I have in this game, I only have 28 minutes on Hanzo, and I normally play tanks or support so I'd get on that objective every time. 1 out of the 2-3 games I played him, I got play of the game with him by doing three headshots to guys with their ultimates up.

I can't even aim with McCree and usually have a 25-35% accuracy with my characters. It really is just easy mode with him.

>>148224838
For Pete's sake, no one's forcing this upon you. Stop playing if you don't like it.
>>
>>148224904
Unfortunately bads can't use either of those to deal with Streetpig.
>>
i've got like 3k gold

what's the best Mercy emote
>>
>>148224602
For aiming characters, I set it up so one lifted right-to-left wrist flick will 180. That's sensitivity 6 in Overwatch at 2000 dpi.

Note that increasing your DPI on your mouse will make your cursor move slower at the same sensitivity.
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>>148224853
I'd say his E is the easiest thing to hit. It's as strong as Lucio's amped heal and it's AoE, on a character with a god tier weapon already. They should tone it down.

Also I personally think if McCree has falloff at 18 meters and Soldier has falloff at 35 something is silly.
>>
Today I played Mei for the first time...and I liked it. Oh god, I've become what I hate.
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>>148225026
applause
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>>148225026
no pulse
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>>148217531

Revealing*
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>>148224836
>cuet
>not the wailing call of the damned
Truly, waifufags are deluded.
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>>148225026
cute clap if you're a fuccboi
smug face if you want to banter after killing somebody with your pistol
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>>148225115
nigger.
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>>148225036
>slower at the same sensitivity.
I meant faster*. Higher DPI means lowering your sensitivity to get the same cursor speed.
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>>148225052
>hating mei
wow what a faggot
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>>148225026
no pulse
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>>148224836
best thing in the game is going 6 reapers and spamming hello

or same with genjis but understood instead of hello
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>>148224762
oh. with my last headset, those ult sounds were just loud and sounded like they were on top of me
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>>148224764
>What is orb of discord

Its like you never play against roadhogs or something

>>148224782
>19-5
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>>148225256
I remember them sounding like that as well. I can usually tell where they're coming from now, but I'm not sure if that's because I'm more experienced at listening to them, or if they've made it less obfuscated.
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>>148224793

Ban them. Ban them fucking hard from the first time they do it.
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>>148214616
>SUMMER SKINS WHEN?
Get back to League you faggot
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>>148225141
I actually hate her like the plague due to my proficiency with Reinhardt but I have to admit she's pretty adorable.
She melts my health and my heart.
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>>148219167
>king's row
>FUN
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA GET A LOAD OF THIS FAGGOT
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>numbani
>neither team can come close to taking first point
>coin flip
>attacking

coin flip deciding the winner. why dont i just join those coin flipping tournaments
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>>148223212
>buffing mei translates to making everyone's lives fucking hell

No. Freeze shouldn't be in the game at all, slowing effects on an m1 are cancer and Mei is a tumor.

There is no one more satisfying to kill than Mei because she's an annoying cunt by design regardless of how well or poorly she is played
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>>148224814

B, c or d obviously. The only wrong answer is a.

It's like you've never played hanzo. If you're a pro hanzo you do c, then b, then d, followed by e) blame your team for the loss.
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>>148225431
>Internet cuts out
>Game crashes
>Unable to play forever
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>>148225265
>tfw Discord'd a ult'ing Genji and killed him in two shoots
>he changed to Winston and focused me
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>>148225265
>>148224764
Zenyatta is my most played character. Besides Discord being very valuable for teams that are having trouble getting eliminations, Zen's heal is also useful for being instantaneous and long range. It pairs well with Winstons, D.Vas, and berserking Reinhardt players. Also useful for Pharahs, Genjis and other characters who Mercy players bitch about not being able to heal because they're too far away when asking for heals. Snipers will also be very surprised by how quickly you can get heals onto them.
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>>148224814
>>148224814
B and then A, obviously
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>>148224986
Very. Though I am literally that Lucio player.
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>>148225514

You say Mei is a tumor and yet she's so bad high level players would never consider picking her?
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>>148225525

1 hour ban for your first offence. I don't care that your internet crashed, you still left. Get better internet and enjoy your hour off. If it happens again in the same 24 hour period you're getting a six hour ban so stick to QP for a bit.
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>>148225573
McCree lookin like he wants to smack that ass
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finally
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>>148224793
5 level penalty 24 hour ban, teammates lose nothing.
That way if it's an honest dc they can recover, but habitual use puts them in the trash with the Hanzo mains
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>>148225490
>he has shit rng
get gud
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>>148224590
>>148224762
T. Tracer and Genji mains
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Does Mei have diabetes?
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>Toblerone kill cam
>200 scrap
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>>148225490
>lost as attackers

you fucking retard attacking is heavily favored to win git gud
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>Spawn
>Lucio has just spawned in front of me
>Was a torb, but he switched when Tracer flanked and got behind everyone and solo'd him and his turret somehow

>Doesn't wait for anyone else to spawn to speed boost
>Doesnt use his amp from spawn
>Continually switches from heals to speed, over and over, probably completely unaware Im behind him
>Eventually uses amp en route to the first point, but its the healing amp

The shit you see in quick play man

The matchmaking took a nose dive the second ranked came out. I guess everyone that wants to play properly plays ranked now
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>>148225839
NEED MORE SCRAP
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>>148225723
I want to sniff that foot
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>>148224986
>leaves spawn with 100% charge
literally me on every hollywood attack
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>>148225839
it's easy to forget about scrap mechanics when you're busy shooting stuff.
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>>148225864

I don't like it when Lucio amps out of spawn. You get there two seconds faster but you've got no healing amp for the first engagement.
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>>148225738
Fuck that if I DC I don't want a 24 hour ban.

The game detecting a leave with 3 or more players reporting for x amount of games should flag a ban for a few days. A leave with 5 players reporting for more than 2 games in the past x ammount of hours should be an instant ban for a few days with zero investigation or anything on blizz's end.
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>>148225862
>he doesnt know about NUBmbani
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>>148223376
>apart from zen
Oh you misguided child. Embrace the teachings of the Shambali.
>throwing orbs at critical allies
>sniping uppity Tracers or Widows who don't expect you'll oneshot them with a discord and regular attacks
>if shit gets real you pass into the iris and get fire off the strongest heal in the game by far
Zenyatta is a ton of fun.
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>>148225980
>f I DC I don't want a 24 hour ban


Don't dc then, idiot.

In what way do you think it impacts your team less if you "accidentally" dc instead of ragequitting? I don't give a fuck why you disappeared, yippy still fucked me over and I want you banned for doing it.
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>pick mei
>win game

such a cheap hero i love her
she is my newest waifu
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I am having fun playing this game
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>>148226094
And he is slow as fuck with little utility and dies within a second as soon as he peaks anywhere.
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Mei is absolutely adorable, and I want to hold her and protect her.
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>>148225793

>Genji being afraid of Torb or his turret

Oh ho ho
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>>148226220
>want to hold her
>can't because she is too fat
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>>148225965

No I mean we're talking defending team coming back from spawn to the 1st point.

You have time to literally amp twice before you get there
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>>148226294

Oh yeah, for sure. For some reason I thought you meant koth.
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>>148225980
24 hours out of 2 months. You'll be fine. You can still quickplay if you're jonesing.
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This game is 90% luck.

I climbed from 45-67, and now I'm on my way back down again. Nothing I do matters. I can play like shit and still win, or I can fucking wreck everything and still lose.
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>>148226180
When people say this it fucking triggers me hard

IF YOU ARE PLAYING ZEN YOU SHOULD BE FAR BACK ENOUGH SO NO ONE CAN EASILY HIT YOU

PEOPLE DIE A LOT ON ZEN BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PLAY HIM
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>>148217994
>never ask for heals just bail at -50 and look for a medpack
Heals are for people who can't jump out of the way. There's packs everywhere if you know the map.
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>reddit has started to acknowledge that Mc-right click was overnerfed
Only 4 more months until Blizzard goes "We did some internal testing and our Mcree change didn't work out..."
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>>148224814
If your answer is not C then you're a fake Hanzo.
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>>148226275
But Mei isn't fat.

Her pants must be pretty thick, and she certainly doesn't look too fat.

I want to shove my face into her ass and inhale deeply
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tracer is a pretty little pastry
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>>148226385
Sometimes it feels like you only have an 8.33% impact on the outcome of these 12 man games.
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>>148226394
Probably because the instant you play against a good team you get hunted by flankers or sniped.
>Just hang out in the back
Is a statement said by people who aren't playing against good players.
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>>148226394
why is his pro game pickrate 0% then?
Are you trying to tell me that you know how to play him properly but people that play 24/7 and get paid for it don't?
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>>148226504
>muh """pro""" overwatch
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>>148226275
Mei is shaped like a bae
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>>148226539
nice counterargument, shitter
doesn't make Zen any less shit
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>>148225670
I didn't say anywhere she was good, she's simply incredibly unfun to play with or against.

Buff her damage but not her freezing, freeze effect should be only on the ult
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>>148226504
As a Zenyatta player, the reason I don't pick him more is his ult is shit and, unlike Mercy and Lucio, I have no way to quickly leave a poor location.

I don't think an extra 50 hp would help, as people suggest. I have an extra 100 hp when stacked with Torb and Symmetra, but I'll still go down to the same situations.
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>>148226504
>Every single time I play overwatch it is against le esport master rank 80 pro players

Do you only play 2x lucio s76 tracer on nepal? I saw pros do that once in a tournament, does that mean every single other character is terrible and needs to be buffed?

Or wait, maybe its completely situational based on the map, enemy heroes, and enemy skill level
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/owg/, is Pharah good on Defense?
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>>148226101
>>148226379

DCs happen to everyone.

The point of my post is that if you're not DCing on purpose you're not gonna get banned. Doing it over more than one game could get you a stiff ban. If you're having connection problems you can avoid a ban and Blizz would never hear the end of people complaining how they get banned all the time DCing.
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>>148226741
Pharah is good against turtling teams, whether they are sitting on point as defence or slowly walking towards you behind a rein on offense
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>>148226701
There is always a better pick than Zen
always
100% of the time
Just because you can make him work doesn't mean there isn't a better choice than him.
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>>148226569
i want to hatefuck mei so much
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just had a game where we had double bastion on the defending team, and the attacking team had 4 monkies, bastion and a lucio, and absolutely no one focused me as mercy letting me get 12k healing in a single round. quick play is an interesting place post competitive.
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ARE WE GETTING SKINS THIS UPDATE??????
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>>148226664
She's not fun to play against because there are too many times where you have to wait, and there's nothing for you to do in the meantime. Make shooting her cryo do something, make shattering (the entire) wall a viable strategy for more than just Bastion, make her ult a telegraphed flash-freeze to you don't need to wait an eternity to get it over with.

On the opposite side, narrow her focus so she's actually good at something, rather than just being kind of mediocre at everything.
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>>148226701
Zenyatta is only good if enemy team comp is specific and yours is in response to it, otherwise zenyatta is a free kill, leaving his team in a 5v6
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>>148226741
She's like Soldier with rockets
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>>148226462
>tracer is foreverially pastrytized, permanently
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>>148226850
i want a cute mercy skin. preferably a nekomimi mercy.
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>>148226747
>DCs happen to everyone

Literally never ever happened to me.

Someone whoop plays competitive knowing that they might dc at any moment is literally no different to someone playing who knows they might lose their temper and ragequit. As the person who get left holding the shitty end of the stick I literally could not care less why you left. The stick is still just as shitty.
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>>148226220
i want you and her to die
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>>148226504
Maybe, just maybe, because he has to compete against two of the three broken heroes of this game.
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>>148226838
>only 12k
>>148226850
NO
>>148226917
Are you retarded or something?
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>>148226820
I have never seen a mercy or lucio solo kill a roadhog being healing by a mercy in a matter of seconds without the help of a cliff

I have never seen a s76 save a whole team from multiple ults with his healing

People underestimate his utility
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>>148215609
I'm carrying hard with zarya at rank 37. Shielding guys from ults, hooks and saving the supports.
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>>148227037
>save a whole team from multiple ults
>zenyatta
now this is bait
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>>148227037
>can't move near 100m of any opponent
>utility
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>enemy team is all low mobility squishies but we are still getting pushed on
>switch to bastion and finally start holding ground
>they use their ults and make one big push
>our zarya lands a 6 man ult on them
>about to unleash hell on them with bastion
>our mei puts her ice wall in front of them blocking all my damage and keeping them alive
>jesus fucking christ
>still manage to hold them off until a minute left by a miracle
>our zarya lands ANOTHER awesome ult with like 5 people
>about to unleash hell on them once again with bastion
>mei ice wall in front of them again
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>he did it fucking TWICE
>they push and win the game

STOP PLAYING MEI YOU ARE ALL FUCKING GARBAGE
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>>148226180
>>148226394
Pretty much this
Zenyatta's advantage over Mercy or Lucio is that he doesn't need to be anywhere near the combat to be helpful in it; he can throw his heal onto anyone he can see and have it affect them pretty much instantly - why are you even getting close enough that the enemy can accurately shoot you?

He's also useful paired with fast flanking characters like Tracer or Genji as you only need to see them for a split second to provide them with a solid heal for the next few seconds - meaning you can be healing them even if they're taking damage AFTER zipping back off around the corner again, without being in any danger yourself.

Zen's also a lot better at murdering the shit out of people than Mercy OR Lucio, even if you're a lazy piece of shit and don't bother to attack people yourself. Discord orb is fucking absurd.

>>148226692
Zenyatta's ult can be pretty clutch, it's just much more of a reactive ult than an active one.
To elaborate; it's far more useful when you use it in response to an enemy's ult rather than just using it to push ahead or block the payload for 5 seconds.
It's a great counter to a Zarya ult, Reaper ult, Mei's ult, RYUU GA TEKI WA GO FUCK YOURSELF etcetera etcetera. Basically any team-wide source of damage you can outheal with Transcendence, with the exception of Junkrat's riptire I guess.

That's my suggestion anyway; use his ult as an OH NO YOU DON'T ASSHOLE button, and only occasionally for 'oh fuck that guy's about to die/we're pushing the point under heavy fire let's go' duty. He's good at countering certain other people (roadhog, reaper, zarya etc), but he has distinct weaknesses of his own (widow, good hanzos, torbs, etc). I think he's one of the better designed characters from a balance standpoint, honestly.
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>3 gold medals, PotG and commendation for 48% kill participation as Rein
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>>148218342
>>148218440
THANKS!
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>>148224185
but torb is one of the worst heroes with hanzo and zenyatta. you dense motherfuckers never learn, do you?
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>>148227114

You can easily carry your team through any combination of
>Zarya/rein/mei ult
>Soldier/pharah/reaper/literally any damage ult that isnt burst
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>>148226747
24 hour competitive ban is nothing in the long run. Worst case scenario you'll be in quickplay without your cool golden gun and 70 inch long epenis for a whole day.

Consider that the world doesn't revolve around you: 5 tryhards had their 20-40 minutes worth of effort smashed and someone needs to pay.
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So are we all in agreement the maps in this game are visually pleasing but in terms of gameplay are fucking atrocious
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>>148227214
>Basically any team-wide source of damage you can outheal with Transcendence, with the exception of Junkrat's riptire I guess.
Or a single Widow headshot

And stop comparing Zen to Mercy and Lucio, unlike those two he can't really heal anything worth a shit.
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>>148227370
A widow headshot does not hurt your entire team at once
Team-wide
Read, comprehend, post
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>Play Quick Play out of boredom since the people I play comp with are offline
>all the insta-locking Hanzo mains on offense are coming out of the woodwork now that Competitive is a thing
>have to carry every round

These people make the game unbearable.
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30 tick when
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>>148227410
Got me there, still doesn't make him relevant as a healer. Even 76 does a better job here.
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>>148227484
your fault for not preemptively blinking
i wish i was being sarcastic but im not
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>>148227370
>people call zen a healer
>people think they're entitled to my orb
>they don't realize I'm busy dealing with the pharah and bastion that my entire team seems to ignore
Literally no one shot pharah except me.
And I'm the type of guy who hates using the word "literally".
They all ignored pharah like she'd just stop shooting when she ran out of fuel.
I play Zen to melt tanks and murder cheeky cunts, I'm not your healslut.
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>>148227021
This should be good for a lark.

What would these heroes be? Let's make it easier for Reddit to Zenyatta them out of relevance through bitching.
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>>148226569
I WANT TO FUCK HER
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>>148227484
>people unironically think adding more ticks would fix this kind of thing
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>>148227486
Then don't classify him as a healer; I don't, and I'm 80% winrate guy.

I only play him if we also have a mercy or lucio
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>>148227467
soloqueue you shitter
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>>148227590
Why did you compare him to Mercy and Lucio then if they're basically not even in the same class?
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>>148227370
Hanzo's ult as well.
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>>148227657
it's not burst damage
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>>148227571
>>148227590

I dont understand why you'd pick Zen over 76

>Soldier has 50 more hp
>Higher dps
>Higher burst with helix
>Heals in an aoe
>Faster
>Better hitbox

>Ultimate can clear teams, zenyatta's ult is just a poor mans lucio ult
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>>148227657
I'm pretty sure zen can outheal a hanzo ult
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>>148227657
it doesnt outheal hanzo but it can help you survive it, hanzo ult is 200 dps and zen heals 130 hps, so your life expectancy inside an ult jumps from a second to three seconds
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>>148227037
>>148227114
Zenyatta's ult can be useful, but that doesn't make it less shit in comparison to Resurrect or Sound Barrier.

All other factors aside, the thing only has a 10 meter radius and you don't have the speed or survivability to get into the center of your team before popping it. In comparison, Sound Barrier has 30 meters and Lucio has the speed and survivability to get into the center of your team. Even Resurrect has a 15 foot range, and Mercy can at least inverse-suicide-bomber it with her guardian angel.

>>148227214
>it's just much more of a reactive ult
Honestly, I mainly use it to save myself when I'm about to go down. As a side effect, it calls allies over to help me survive afterward.

It's useful against Mei's and Hanzo's ult, but it's beaten by Lucio just using his Amp It Up on speed boost.
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>>148227654
I compared him to mercy and lucio because someone fucking asked me to
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>>148227738
Zen can outheal anyult since he heals 100hp/sec
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>zen can now deploy two orbs per type instead of one
>game is ruined forever
just swap zenyatta with the newcoming support and give him a complete rework
any change however minimal makes him absolutely useless or game breaking
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>>148227720
>>148227738

Dragons deal 200 dps

Zenyatta ult wont save you from them

>>148227739

Zen's ult is 100 heals per second.

It reduces the deagons damage to 100 dps. Which still kills anyone standing in it because they're taking 100 dps
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>>148227808
Nah, not every, its garbage. Stop shitpicking, zen fanboi.
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>>148227832
this is what happens when you balance an overpowered ability (orb of discord) by making the character that has it as shitty as possible
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if two friendly reins charge a single target from opposite sides and hit at the exact same time, what happens?
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>>148227569
how do i learn such clairvoyance

>>148227589
favor the shooter???? :)))
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>>148227628
>he thinks soloqueuing comp is better than playing comp with a group and that somehow queuing up with people makes you a shitter

I'm sorry you don't have anyone to play the game with, but that doesn't mean I'm going to let my rank be ruined by shitty randoms on my team.
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>>148227906
>wow dude why doesn't blinking make me invincible wtf?!
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>>148227773
If you'd scroll up to your wall of text, you would see that nobody did.
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>>148227905
They both knock each other down and take 50 damage, they fall on the floor like they would if they got earthshattered.
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>>148227906
>is there a junkrat near you?
>is he facing somewhat in your direction?
Blink nigga
That shift button is always off cooldown.
Always.
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>>148226825
But Mei wants somebody who will make love to her and cuddle her afterwards.
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>>148227865
No it's definitely more than 100 health per second, I play a lot of Genji and Genji slashes roughly faster than once per second during ult, and when against a Zenyatta people will heal to full before my next slash comes out.
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>>148227905
Interested in this
>>
should I play widow
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>>148227808
Zen can't outheal D.Va's bomb. Also, he's pretty much dead if she gets a drop on him unlike Mercy and Lucio who can fly/boost away from her.
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>>148227737
>>Higher dps
ahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
nigga, each orb does 45 damage
>>148227898
nerfing orbs may bet he way to go actually
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>>148227990
>>148227940
but does the target still get the 300 pin damage or do they get off scott free?
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>>148227808
>heals 100hp/sec
Actual recorded values say 180 healing per second. You know this since Death Blossom does 200 dps.

Also, yeah. There are many ults that can plow through that, either killing instantly (Junk, D.Va, McCree) or just outright devastation (point blank Pharah).
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>>148227906
>how do i learn such clairvoyance
You need to learn how long it takes for the weabowman to arm his fucking arrow.
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>>148227808

He literally cant against any damage over time ults

Death Blossom out damages it
Dragons out damage it
Missile Barrage out damages it
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>>148227898
same with flashbang
stupidly good ability, rest of cowboys kit sucks to compensate for it
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>>148227214
>Zenyatta's ult

His ult is fucking stupid. Fine, play up the long ass range he has on his orbs and attack, but his ult is CQC only.

Shit design.
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>>148228045
you should kill yourself taimou
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>>148228027

Both wiki's seem to disagree with you but I'll test it

>>148228045

>Should I play *Defense Class"

The answer is always no, pick a tank, support (Not zen) or offense
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>>148228118
>Death Blossom out damages it
False
>Dragons out damage it
Buys you enough time to get out of it
>Missile Barrage out damages it
True
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>>148228201
Owinfinity says 130hp/sec. But I swear the Genji point is true, and Genji is a stable 120 damage per slash, and I've never seen somebody not get healed to full during the slashes.
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>>148228069
Assuming you're highly skilled 76 is the better dps since you won't be missing 70% of your shots.
Zen is still fun.

>>148228118
It gives your team another second or two to turn around and shoot the shitter that pressed q, hence him being a support.
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Where's my sword character that uses a righteous holy sword instead of 100x folded nippon steel
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>>148228291
even 4 shot bursting and landing 80% of your shots, zenyatta orbs have no damage falloff
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>>148226569
>>148226825
Mei NEEDS to be impregnated.

It is a crime against nature that she is not pregnant.
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>>148228281
reminder high ping makes you slash faster
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>>148228367
>wanting a sword in a gunfight
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When are they going to add a summoner?
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>>148228201
Widow is fun and cute.
Junkrat is fun and cuter.

>>148228367
>righteous holy sword
>not taking the most righteous weapon and strapping a jet engine to the back
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>>148227370
>>148227486
Zenyatta's harmony orb heals a consistent 30 health per second and is applied instantly.
Lucio heals 12.5 health per second without amp it up, then he can boost it to 40% every 12 seconds or so - assuming he doesn't use that for speed instead.
Mercy heals 50 per second but has to be right next to her ally to use it, Soldier's field heals 40, but is obviously limited due to the limited duration, small area, etcetera etcetera.

The difference being, all of those people have to be near the person they're healing - and in Mercy's case, she has to be healing and literally can't do anything else. Zenyatta can heal your roadhog on the frontlines, spin round and heal your widow on the top of the Anubis skyscraper, all while popping 50% increased damage on priority targets.

Mercy is a stronger single-target healer, and Lucio is a stronger area healer. Zenyatta is someone you pick to counter other people, because if Roadhog is chunking your team then you blow him apart solo with discord orb, or if a Reaper tries to DIE DIE DIE your team then you just hit Q and say 'no' while your team beats him over the head with his own entrails.

>>148228176
Yeah, that's the one flaw, really. Long-range fragile character, point blank ult.

>>148228118
The thing is, even if ALL those things are true, you don't need to outheal the total damage. You just need to outheal enough of it for your team to go 'oh fuck' and shoot Reaper/Pharah in the face or run the fuck out of the enormous, slowly moving and very easily dodged dragons.

>>148228291
Ye dude
Play characters because they're fun, not because they're 420 pro MLG, because you are playing Overwatch and that means that you are trying to be pro while playing Overwatch and that is embarrassing.
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>>148227484
To be fair, Mercy has an even more forgiving hitbox for her bullets than hanzo's infamous arrows.
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>>148228449
What do you think is better, a hero that needs to be near his teammates and can actually do that, or a hero that can heal from afar but severely limits his teammates movement options if they want to get healed and can't get in no matter the circumstances?
Also you conveniently forgot that lucio can heal up to 6 people at the same time, that soldier can heal more than one person at once and that all three have far FAR more utility and movement options than Zen.
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>>148228439
crusader online
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>>148225864
>The matchmaking took a nose dive the second ranked came out. I guess everyone that wants to play properly plays ranked now

I wish that was true. The amount of Lucios who ult'd for no reason and cost us a team fight, and by extension, the game, are infuriating.
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>>148228202

>False

Nigga are you implying Zen's ult heals for more than Reaper's 200 dps during Death Blossom? Because if you are that is some serious denial
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>>148228449
>someone who actually understands character roles
What are you doing here, fampai?
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>>148228435
A 「Stand」expy would be more feasible desu.
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>>148228643
What
How does Zen limit his teammates movement options
He's the only person on that list who can heal people he can't even see, for a solid 3 seconds no less
You're retarded
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>>148228071
you get 300 damage only if you hit the wall
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New:

>>148228772

>>148228772

>>148228772
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>>148228608
mercy's bullets don't oneshot
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>>148228740
>leave 3km LOS
>shitty heal gone after 3 sec
>if one wants a new one, need to walk into super narrow LOS again
Good dynamic heal, I bet he can always focus on the important targets too
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>>148228731
Being confused, mostly
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>>148228291
>Assuming you're highly skilled 76 is the better dps
Sad but true. Pros and cons of switching to Soldier from Zen:

Pro
>improved anti-Pharah
>improved mobility
>much less aggro
>self healing with full 200 hp
>superior secondary healer for nearby allies
>second most lethal ultimate in the game

Cons
>you can't heal distant idiots anymore
>no more discord for your team to ignore
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>>148228876
>Shitty heal
But his heal is literally more than twice as good as Lucio's passive healing rate
You should not need more than 3 seconds of healing to keep someone alive, that's 90 health even if they ran round a corner IMMEDIATELY after you launched an orb at them. That's over half of a Tracer or Genji's max health.

Also, you're assuming that your Zen is just sitting there being a piece of shit and not trying to position himself so he can keep throwing heal orbs to people around corners. Good Zen players will be able to heal you just fine, they just won't follow your retarded ass like a lovesick puppy when you run out into the enemy's spawn zone as McCree and get raped by 6 people at once.
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>defending first on on attack sided map
>team goes full tilt and starts trolling
Nice game blizzcucks
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>>148229157
Lucios HPS is 12.5 at worst and 75 at best, without his e
Zen is fucking nothing compared to that
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>>148229302
Lucio only heals for 40 with amp it up m8. If you're counting his ult as healing per second I'm going to have to bop you one.
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>>148229157
Healing per game for good players (75th percentile healing):
>6900 - Lucio
>5600 - Mercy
>3800 - Zenyatta
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>>148229587
So he heals anywhere between 40 to 240 with e, got it.
anon you seem to forget that lucio, unlike zen, is not a single target heal
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>>148229708
Clever girl
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>>148227906
it's funny because if you pause the webm at the right spot you actually died before his conc mine exploded
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>>148229605
>>148229708
As has been stated multiple times already, Lucio and Mercy are both better healers. You don't pick Zen solely for his healing. You also cannot quantify how useful his other utility is; shit like being able to see enemies through walls.
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>>148229302
>>148229587
>>148229708
Chaining Amp It Up for maximum healing gives an average of 18 healing per second to a single target. So well over 20 seconds to heal a critically damaged tank.

(40×3 + 12.5×12) / (3 + 12) = 18
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>>148229878
You can quantify the utility of my dick in your mums ass anon
There is still a better pick than zen in 100% of all situations
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>>148229878
whats zenyatta's average number of deaths? im assuming the reason hes not used by any serious players is because as great as his numbers may be, he has no place in a game where mobility is a character's greatest asset.
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>>148230076
People focus on his 150 health, but it's really the poor mobility that kills it. His average deaths are 5.9 per game, which is similar to Mercy's 5.5 and Lucio's 6.1, but there is a critical difference in how you're dying and how much control you have over them.
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>>148230076
I'd say that's almost certainly part of the reason, but also much more importantly: Lucio and Mercy are safer bets.

A good Zen can fuck shit up royally, but pro gamers are in the business of limiting risk. You want the safest, most likely-to-work option possible. Lucio or Mercy are the workhorses for that.
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>>148230076
hes bad because he doesnt do anything well
his healing is shit
hes shit on the front line because hes paper
hes shit on the back line because his abilities require constant los and his weapon is a projectile

if he was good as a healer his subpar damage would be excusable, but hes not
if his damage and survivability were on-par with other character his shitty healing wouldnt be an issue, but its not
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>>148230673
He's "good" at long range healing, in the sense that he can do it and others cannot. At least until Sombra comes along and takes that from him too.
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Some good site like masterovewatch?
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>>148231439
overbuff?
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>>148231493
>overbuff?
Fine, thanks
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Can someone explain why Symettra doesn't have a Despenser-like healing construction?
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>>148233867
she's not a healer
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>>148222681
>wanting to showcase true skill
>in a video game

For what purpose? No one is going to respect a guy who has the highest kd in cod besides his fans and the player base. How many people do you think actually care if you're some fps god? Just play the game and have fun, why does that seem so difficult for everyone on this board?
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>>148230673
>subpar damage
This is just wrong though, zen has a stupid high dps for a support already and then being able to tack on +50%damage to any single target for your whole team is huge, tanks become almost paper, Reinhardts rocket boost now does 300 damage essentially making everything he pins die instantly or immediately after.
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