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Prey Slaughtered: >>148068339

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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First for best weapon.
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Ahh mems or some say memems
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Ludwig's Rifle or Blunderbuss?
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QUEEN OF MY HEART. MY COMPASSIONATE CARETAKER. MY DEVOTED DOLL.

Tell me what thou desires most. You want my sword? It's yours. You want my blood? It's yours. You want the moon?

LET ME SHOOT IT DOWN FOR YOU THEN
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>>148200010
Are you the guy with the terrible hoontah pictures?
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>>148200010
>HUD

Default 0/10, try harder next time.
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Anyone up for Forbidden Woods, starting at the lamp?

Ringing, pass is 'dubious'
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>>148200010
Fucking nice dude. Gave me an idea there.
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>>148201571
Yeah I'll join
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>>148201768
Okay, embarking.
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>>148200010
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I gotta repair my weapon, Pete. Meetcha back at lamp?
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>>148201768
You didn't join did you?

I was Grumpy Pete.
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>>148202525
Okay, ringing again, you both wanna join?
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>>148202525
No I'm still at the lamp
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>>148202425
>>148202589

Sure hope we don't get invaded hint hint
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>>148200010
Here's what I think of your doll
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Gotdamn they got destroyed. Nice going, erryone~
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We got them good.

Sadly my Bone Ash'd Cannon completly missed, ruining the climatic ending....

If anyone wants to help me on Lower Pthumuru Undead Giant it would be greatly appreciated, might as well use the same password.
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It's been a few months since I've visited /bbg/, do you guys still do weekly fight clubs? Do you still max over 50 posters per thread?
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>>148203823
You're damn right we do FCs.
Don't know how many posters we get per thread: I'm not autistic enough to check. Just jump back a thread and see what the number was at.
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>>148203951
That's a good point. I'm fucking burnt out on Souls so I'm considering making some pvp chars for BB. I don't know why I'd do this since bloodgem grinding was horrible but at least the base game was more fun than DaS3.
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>>148202390
Photoshop fags put this Golden Face over the Red Moon in that pic and we've got ourselves a new meme. Made by /bbg/ for /bbg/
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>>148200289
>>148200319

The salt is real. Stay jelly.
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Is it possible to have both the white and red messenger ribbons at the same time?
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>>148204902
I'm not salty, I'm just saying, if you want to take dope screenshots, you turn your HUD off. It's a good shot, but you didn't turn off the HUD so it's shit by default.
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>>148204741
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>>148205996
Kek'd and saved.

Glad you know my name
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Most fun:
Stake Driver
Saif
Stake Driver

Fun
Chikage
Wheel
HMLS
Reiterpallasch
Burial Blade

Average
Arm
Cutter
BOM
Church Pick
Beast Claw
Simon's Bowblade
Whirlgig

Boring
Saw Cleaver
Saw Spear
Threaded Cane
Hunter's Axe
Boomhammer
Bloodletter
Ludwig's Holy Blade

Most Boring
Rifle Spear
Tonitrus
Kos Pieceofshit
Rakuyo
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>Defiled Amy jump attack
>I as a summon survive with a sliver of health
>Host dies
Every fucking time. Equip your hp runes god dammit.
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>>148206918
I forgot Kirkhammer. Put it in Most fun along with Saif and the Stake Driver.
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>>148206940
It helps to realize, most people running defiled Amygdala aren't just doing it for fun. You can't get your 15% HP rune until after Defiled, which means your host probably has something like ten percent less health than they ought to.

Add to that a lot of people don't seem to think leveling vit is a good idea, and, well...

>Invading in Mensis
>Find host
>HMS R2
>600 damage, dead from full health
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>>148207537
>most people running defiled Amygdala aren't just doing it for fun.
Who on this planet does this fight for fun? Even once you get the pattern down, it's still an annoying, un-fun fight.
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Did anyone know that the lever guard on Layer 2 Lower Pthumuru drops 19% Physical gems?

Not sure if it's coincidence but he's only dropping them if I let him heal with a DeS-style grass eating animation, but I'm 3 for 3 now letting him heal has given me a Cursed Gem each time and the 3 times I didn't let him heal have given me no gem. I had 100 discovery as well, so nothing fancy.

You could easily get here whenever you liked, since Depth 1-2 Chalice's are easy as hell and Layer 1 is just the Watchers, and you can farm Mensis level gems. Definetly make low level DLC much more bareable.
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>>148206918
When have you ever hit a good player with a charged R2 using the tricked stake driver
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>>148205996
>Golden Face on red moon

Wasted meme potential.
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>>148207656
I actually enjoy FRC Amygdala. It's a challenge, and I like how methodical the fight is. Though to be fair, I also really like fighting Loran Darkbeast, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
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>>148205697
You're right, it does look better without the hud. Thanks Fampai.
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>tfw pumped bloodtinge since i read that it improves firearm damage

w-will my pellet pistol ever do more than 30 damage to an angry brit with elongated limbs ;-;
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>>148208498
How many tries did this take? Your first one took 31 if you bullet count is anything to go by.
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>>148208568
Here's what you to go in guns a-blazin

>50 BT
>+10 Evelyn
>30%+Cursed Damp Bloodtinge Gem

Protip: Use BMA if you really wanna get nasty
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>>148208568
Upgrade your pistol.
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>>148208789
A lot less. About 10 or so because I've managed to get the positioning and timing down by now.
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>>148208807
What melee weapon would be good to use?
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>>148208946
Bloodletter or Chikage for BLT build.
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>>148209024
>google bloodletter
>dlc

fukk
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15 fps 50 second loading screens
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>>148209441
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>>148209441
Jokes on you since I get single digit FPS when I Whirligig backstab a Bagman who's mid power up animation.
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Holy fucking shit, why are firearm-wielding hunter NPCs so fucking overpowered?

>infinite ammo
>bullshit reaction time
>land maybe two hits before they start spamming shotgun blast

what the fuck man
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dark-souls-3-director-talks-franchises-legacy-poss/1100-6441636/

>You've said you're done with Souls, but does that mean this is the end of the Souls franchise, or do you expect to hand that off to other directors? Does that extend to Bloodborne as well, or are there lessons you've learned from Dark Souls III that you'd like to take into another Bloodborne?

>This game marks a major "turning point" within the Dark Souls series. Just as it's been announced, we have two DLCs planned, but as it stands now, I'm not thinking about making any sequels or spin-offs. That applies to Bloodborne as well.

There you have it, Bloodborne is safe from the dreaded souls-sequel syndrome.
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Can you re-spec your stats in this game?
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>>148201171
wait, what?
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>>148210164
no
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>>148210167
Oil urn makes enemies stay on fire when you hit them with a molotov. Does a fuck load of damage to some of them (beasts).
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>>148210265
I thought it was something like the molotov hit right as he was transforming so it counted the explosion on both character models like some eldritch speedrun tech.
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>>148210424
>Eldritch speedrun tech

And that's how you can rise up from R'lyeh in only 998 years instead of 1000.
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>>148210179
I really wish you could, make it really convoluted but possible.

> Take Yharnam Stone to Altar of Dispair
> Queen Yharnam is revived
> Offering her rings of betrothal allows one respec
> Infinite supply of them as Chalice Chest loot
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>>148209923
Fuck off. No matter how bad a sequel might have been Bloodborne would have remained the same. Take your le jaded pessimistic contrarian game faggotry somewhere else.
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>>148209923
AotA was pretty good.
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>>148211124
>>148210179
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>>148211106
As was Old Hunters. DaS2's DLC was the best part of that game as well.

DaS3's DLC will likely be a great addition to that game as well, since From seems to use DLC as a way to sell stuff cut/wasn't finished from the main game that's been given months of polish.
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>>148210932
Nah, DaS as a stand alone story is fantastic, but it's actively cheapened by certain aspects of DaS2 and DaS3's lore, the incessant Artorias worship for example got completely out of hand.

Singular, self-contained stories and universes fit the series best.

>>148211106
That's an expansion, not a sequel.
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>That motherly way Doll talks to Good Hunter in Childhood's Beginning
>That motherly way MiB talks to the Old One in end game Demon's Souls

Guys, I think this is more than poetry.
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Post a more aesthetic armor set, you literally can't.
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>>148206918
>Burial Blade not Most fun
>Saw Spear that low

>Chikage
>Fun

Shit list famalam
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>>148211336
You're just a consumer. Not a creator. You have no say in what is right and what isn't in terms of the lore/setting. Stop presenting worthless opinions as fact.

For instance there are many that appreciate the efforts of the Dark Souls sequels to expand its world. THAT'S a fact, you deluded mongoloid.
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>>148211714
Refer to >>148200319

You're close, though. Charred Hunter Garb + Gascoigne's Cap is GOAT.
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>>148211714
>Crow hat
>Yharnam Hunter chest piece
>Gascoigne gloves
>No pants
Give it a try anon.
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>>148207537
Even if they don't have the 15% hp rune, summons have a 30% health penalty so that sorta evens it out.
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>>148206918
>stake
>fun
Use a saw you hipster fuck
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>>148212207
Phantoms don't get the health penalty in cursed chalices, if I'm not mistaken.

>>148212237
Saws are super boring though. Their movesets are so lame. The only redeeming quality they have is how absurdly strong they are.

Meanwhile, Steak gets that sweet FISTPUNCH style, complete with the rocket punch of oneshotting. Not to mention it even looks better, a complex weapon made for real men instead of the boring metal slab or pointy metal rod on a stick.
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>>148209923
Bloodborne 2 will inevitably happen, if not this year then only because From is busy overinflating the DaS3 DLC into a world-ending doom-bubble. Because what else will From do, make up ANOTHER setting fresh from the blank? I don't think so. This one needs to be milked more. The effort/profit balance hasn't been squeezed dry yet.

And, to be honest, exactly what do you expect a new setting to be like if they make it? BB and DaS share so fucking many thematic set pieces that, if you squint, they become seriously hard to tell apart. The mood is pretty much identical for one. A new game with a new world, lets call it "From 3", is just going to be
>hopeless world where the lights are slowly going out
>you can't really do anything to make that better
>everyone is going / is already crazy
>you must kill them all to pretend that you're improving the situation even just slightly
>multiple endings that are all just variations of "and then everything went to shit anyway"

Even if BB isn't getting a direct or just a setting sequel, it's still getting one, you get my drift?
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>>148211887
I dunno man I've played enough souls to notice a consistent trend of strengths and weakness in the series, and I'm not alone in appreciating the series in this way,

What's familiar becomes tired, and sometimes it's better to infer than it is to show. Do you know what a good example of Artorias veneration is? Having Raime and Ludwig, two other dlc-based fallen swordsman who wield their swords in their left hands, subtle connective tissue with plenty of breathing room for them to be their own thing.
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>>148212993
Where did this whole "Artorias was left-handed" deal even come from? He holds it in his right in the actual fight with him, so what's the deal? Am I missing something?
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>>148206918
>Most boring
>Rakuyo
Quit being so bitter.
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>>148213164
He's not wrong, though. It's a big Blade of Mercy, and if it weren't for the R2's and L2, Blade of Mercy would be boring as hell too.
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>>148213338
Don't you dare talk shit about my blades.
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>>148213446
Eileen is dead and her dumb rinkydink daggers a shit!

Church Pick for best skill weapon!
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>>148213556
The fucking church pick? Figures.
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>>148213138
The DaS2 Artorias sword mentions that its wielders were all left handed, and you got special moves if you equipped it in your l-hand. And maybe the DaS boxart depicts Artorias entering the abyss, with his sword in his left hand, since the shield looks like his greatshield, so he fought you with his off-hand.

The way I see it Raime discarded his shield and then wielded Fume in his off-hand, and Ludwig wielded the moonlight sword in his left hand because his right was too beastial.
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>>148213138
His left arm is broken when you fight him due to abyss fighting shenanigans. That's why it hangs there flapping about and he has no shield.
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>>148213556
Yes, I like eating cardboard too
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>>148212993
Again. Because clearly you didn't understand the first time.

Your ludicrous "opinions" have less worth than the money your parents invested in you.

People LOVE the Dark Souls sequels. There's no denying that. Both the fans AND the critics.

Go check out the critical reception and sales of both titles if you don't believe me you dimwitted fagtron.
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>>148213663
>>148213732
Have you used that thing before? Its moveset is amazing. The swipes, the slams, the charge attack and the followup. It's like the Burial Blade but with more oomph, and the Burial Blade already had a lot of oomph.
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>>148213831
I have. It is solid, I can agree on that, and it will wreck face in PvE. It just feels unappealing despite that for whatever reason though.
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>>148213810
On the whole, not as much as they love the original, you sperg.
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>>148212980
I don't agree with most of what you said but I sure hope there's a Bloodborne 2.

A hunter can never hunt enough beasts.
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>>148214158
>Hey have some more opinions without anything to back them up
>That's what you asked for amirte :^)

NO. Dark Souls 2 has been the most critically acclaimed of the series. Dark Souls 3 sold millions of copies worldwide.
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>>148211714
>gas hat
>gas pants
>maria coat
>knight gloves

you're welcome
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>>148214576
It's not Bloodborne without the tricorne!
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If the good hoonta cums inside the doll, does it sound like a visceral?
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>>148214925
It sounds like a steak driver charged r2
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>>148214925
good lord why my brain had to instantly imagine that
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So was Vicar Amelia merely delaying her transformation through prayer only to lose concentration when the player approaches her?
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>>148214576

The gascoine hat looks stupid on Marias coat due to how slip the neck of the Maria coat is.
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>>148215160
Because you want to fuck the doll. Thats normal for a good hunter tho
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>>148215326
Seems likely
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Who is the hardest dog boss bbg?

Air Bud or Hotdog?
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>>148215614
Whats the dolls cunt like? Does it look like a fleshlight?

Out of what material whould it be build if there is no rubber?
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>>148215614
I imagined myself instead of the doll
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>>148216303
Thats fine to i guess
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For the love of Kosm! Somebody help me with the Undead giant. I'm bloodlevel 26 and lost around 40k bloodechoes to him, and now I'm out of blood vials and bullets as well ;_; (ok I might have a lot in the box, but I don't want to go back to the dream yet) I'm ringing right outside the door.
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>>148216778
Which Chalice?
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I made a 45 STR and 20 ARC buil. Should I go for nourishing gems or pure phys ones for my Holy Moonlight Sword and Logarius' Wheel?
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>>148217096
The very first one; the Pthumeru chalice. It's my second day of playing the game. I'm this >>148107198 guy.
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>>148217210
Alright I'll help.

Go into Network settings and set your password to bbg.
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>>148217210

Not that other guy, but set up a password and I'll lend you a hand. I'm doing the very same chalice dungeon (assuming you picked the shared fixed one) with my level 100 character.
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>>148217342
>>148217372
Alright, homies. Ding-a-ling-ing.
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>>148217413
If I'm AFK when I load in wait a minute, I gotta piss
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>>148216778
>He says Kosm

No wonder you're having a hard time with depth one chalices.
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Well we certainly got him.

How far are you in the main game?
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>>148217651
Dunno, my man. You're either an ass or a tits man; the same way you either say Kosm or Kos. It's just how it is.

Anyway, thanks dude. That was some sick damage you did to him. Fighting him solo was much harder and I fought him like maybe 7 times or so. I managed to get him down to almost 5-10% too, but he hits hard and getting cocky kills me often.
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>>148217794
Um, so far I've killed the Cleric beast, Gascoigne, Djura and the Bloodstarved beast. Then I decided to try the chalice that I got the materials for.
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>>148217952
>he killed Djura

Mate...

You just killed the best gesture in the game.
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>>148218313
Dunno, but I felt like I wanted to best him and I failed many times until I did, so in the end it was worth it. Besides, I don't intend to play this game just once. What gesture are we talking about though?
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Oh damn I just rocked the Merciless Watchers. Parry game too stronk and the arena is just too OP against them.
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>>148219939
Good work, you probably got an awesome gem for your level.

If you want to make the early game super easy for yourself, kill them again (either by making another dungeon or cooping) and put 2 on each of your weapons.
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Does the thing when you give Alfred unopened summons and then attack him(without killing) so he won't murder Annalise still work?
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>>148220531
>murdering analise
Try again buddy
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>>148220604
well, figuratively murdering
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>>148220452
Nice idea. I reached the third layer and I think I'm in front of a boss room. Got 8 vials and no bullets. Should I proceed? I'm level 27 with 19 vit and I'm using the saw spear +3 with a hunter's pistol +3 and the gems I have for my main weapon are phys at up +7,5% and blunt atk up +10% ; add phys at +5.4 Somehow I have another Phtumeru chalice now and a Phtumeru root chalice as well.The gem they dropped gives me a phys at up +13.5% btw.
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>>148218587
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0jm1TAt2iQ

I also thought that I would play it once.

Lead to the point where I had three twinks with different builds, all through the maingame and the chalice dungeons and one with the ring from the chalice dungeons.

You get so many crazy weapons that you really want to test them out.
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>>148220703
Blunt ATK will do nothing for the Saw Spear.

Gems that give a flat number increase arnt as good as they might seem, since that flat bonus is applied as a set number added onto each attack, so for example when you do a charged R2 that does 2x the listed damage of a weapon the flat bonus will stay the same wheras % increase gems boost the weapons damage, which then gets all further modifiers placed on top of it.

Having two 13.5% Physical gems is the best you can have at the moment. Although Depth 2 Chalice's will offer even better ones.

Have you fought the layer 3 boss yet? I can help if you want, but you can probably get him if you go in prepared.
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>>148221205
Umm... I said that I know already that this won't be a one run thing, but it never is with souls games for me, so...

>>148221501
Like I said I'm right outside the door; or at least I think I am, because of the messages in here. Do joing me for my first run! I'm just going to smoke a bit and then we can rock.
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The password is bbg
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>>148221786

Ok, ringing
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Someone pls help me kill the phtumerian descendant in the fixed depth 5 dungeon
I'll get the bowblade for those easy back parries
Password is dolphin
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Goddamn he got me with a jump atack at like 5%
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Did you get him?

Also you wernt in front of the boss door at all, you hadn't even entered the layer 3 main section. I opened the locked door from behind for you. So there's a huge chunk of dungeon you skipped. No important items as far as I'm aware though.
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He went crazy ham on you once he cornered you in there. Lots of aoe spam as well.
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>>148222228
Still need help?

I'm up to that boss as well and I can't do it solo. I'll help you then you can return the favour.
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Alright, that was smooth as hell, broskie. Now I gotta' keep on going with the story or I might tend towards making a root chalice to see how it is. Besides I'm totally lost and can't find a way to advance after the Bloodstarved beast.

>>148222924
I will try to help you. I got him down already.
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>>148222924
Yeah please, I'm ringing
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>>148223096
The paaaaaaasswoooooooord
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>>148223134
It was in my initial post, its dolphin
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>>148222983
Uh, I don't think you're up to killing Depth 5 Descendant having just killed Depth 1 Hotdog :^)

>>148223096

Ringing, keep in mind I have a whopping 10 Vitality. But my HMS and spells wreck him.
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Bow-Blade bro, I saw your ghost.

Are you still ringing? I havnt joined yet.
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Fuck. Sorry.

In coop I can't survive a thrown Shotel, when I host I can. This is going to be tough.
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>>148223393
It seems two people are helping me
Yeah I'm ringing again, we died
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Paarl is pretty much a huge Zinogre ripoff isn't it
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>>148223586
The three posts above your are all me.

Also ringing
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>>148223672
That was close
Again
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Alright then, clip through the roof you HMPHing bastard.

Did you get him Crowsteele? I'm doing 2500 if I get my Charged R2, R2 combo, but I die instantly.
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I...don't even know what that was. Sorry
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>>148224174
Just let me pull aggro when he's on you desu
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Jesus Christ I'm just bad.

Can anyone else help with Desendant?
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>>148224384
Give me a few mins to set up. Pass was Dolphin, right?
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Is there any reason not to kill Patches?
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>>148224583
Yeah, I'm being one-shot on non-counter hits. I think this is the theoretical limit of a 10 Vitality build.
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>>148224728
>10 vit
>Depth 5
Why? Also, ringing.
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New plan, I'm switching character.
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How the heck do I proceed towards Amelia? I'm so lost...
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>>148224865
use a walkthrough bro :^)
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>>148224865
You killed Blood Starved Beast right?

Go to Cathederal Ward lamp and go through the newly opened door on the right side.
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>>148224851
Damn
Well that was effective. Thanks a ton!
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>>148225029
Let me check in a bit. I just created a root chalice that I want to explore.
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>>148225034
Nws m8
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>>148225034
That, uh, wasn't me...
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Alright, you guys who just beat Descendant, can you help my 10 Vit meme character beat him now?

please
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>>148225368
Sure, what's the pass?
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>>148225397
Same as it was, dolphin
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>>148225457
Alright, ringing at the lamp
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>>148224693
I'm assuming you mean after you get the stamina rune? If so, I've never found any reason to keep him alive. He does sometimes show up in chalice dungeons I think? As a very over priced merchant but that's it. I say just kill him after you get the rune so he doesn't fuck you over on that cliff
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Well shit, didn't realise I was missing some hp there. Reringing
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So close...

Ringing again.
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Thanks so much.

Now Bloodletting beast awaits.
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>>148226317
I can srrc in on a different char if you want. Don't have an Ihyll chalice on any altar and not willing to fight past HMPH to reach layer 2.
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>>148225083
How's that Root Chalice going?

Just making sure you are aware that they are procedurally generated and 100% optional. The only things of any use you'll find are maybe some gems from the bosses.

I'd suggest doing the main game some more or doing Central Pthumuru non-root chalice.
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>>148226473
Yeah ok, ringing.
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>>148226660
Ringing. Here's hoping it goes quick.
>>>>>>>>>>srrc
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>none of the planners show how much blood echoes is required in total/per level
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>>148226704
Sorry, I got impatient and very lost.

Then double teamed by a rifle guy and a crossbow knight.
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>>148227158
I was in the lever room just fighting everything and focusing on not dying. There's a lot of shit in there. Its one of those levers which should be suicide ran desu. Reringing anyway.
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>>148226579
I died twice to the boar boss and now I'll try this >>148225029
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Tell you what, I'll just suicide run to the lever since I know where it is. If I make it back in one piece after pulling it, great. If not, I'll ring again.
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>>148227552
Well, his spit killed me instantly.

Let change gems real quick and we'll try again. If anyone wants to help with Headless BSB, password is dolphin.
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>casuals general
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>>148227951
Damn, I'm guessing almost anything he's gonna do will be a oneshot for you then
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>>148228059
Yeah, ideally we'd have 3 people and I'd stand back and spam ACB while the other Drew agro and broke his legs.

If I remember right his maggot head is extremly weak to Arcane.
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>>148228225
>hits me mid heal
wew
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>>148228056
This isn't Overwatch general though
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>>148228316
Since he's blind he de-agro'd bevause I was far away, got 2 more casts off before he found me again and punched me into next week.
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>>148228432
>>>>srrc
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>>148228663
>Fogwall appeared over elevator door signifying someone about to arrive.
> Disapeared again

What does it mean?
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>>148228782
Means the game went halfway but gave up. Try refreshing your bell.
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>>148228942
Yeah I did.
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> facing away from me
> cast ACB
> before it can even come out he turn around and spits at me
> can't move from casting stance
> stunlocked and rapid poisoned to death

I fucking hate this boss.

Anyway, I gotta go to bed. Thanks so much, and I won't waste any more of your time with the horrible SRRC summon times.
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>>148229241
Fair enough, at least you're partway through Ihyll now.
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>>148229383
If you're still available m8 I need help too. Same pw, my chikage barely dents it
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>>148229475
I guess I can, if you can put up with the srrc timing first. Ringing now. Do you have the boss gate unlocked?
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>>148229523
A job well done, good hunter!
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>>148229837
Not a problem. I'll be around a little more if Queenie decides to pull some funny tricks
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>>148230138
Nah I'm just gonna start the gems grind for now
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>60 insight, not going to spend any
>no sedatives
>need to get past the winter lantern in the poisonous swamp in the nightmare frontier
Just fuck my shit up
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>there's no way to do a NG run with Burial Blade

Legit depressing. Probably my favorite weapon in the game but I can only do NG+ stuff with it. It's not like NG+ is overly hard or anything, but I wish there was an option to at least try NG with it.
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>>148230963
Speaking of which, Burial Blade vs. Church Pick opinions?

If I can make it through the Great Wall of Ludwig I can get that one pretty early at least.
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>>148230963
Chalice Dungeons. You pretty much have to play through NG to get to Lower Loran where it is, but that's the Uncanny BB which is the one you'll eventually want.
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>tfw still no save editor for Bloodborne
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>>148206918
Objectively wrong.
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>>148230930
Jut run, famygdala
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>>148231448
Yeah, running helped. But now I realize it wasn't worth it
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>>148231758
You don't find the gift useful?
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>>148230963
If you're good enough you can get A Burial Blade before Shadows of Yharnam.
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>>148232210
Why would I find it useful when I'm playing offline?
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>>148206918

Get a load of this beastly idiot. This is how it's done:

>Great One tier
Burial Blade
Whirligig Saw

>Ahh tier
Blade of Mercy
Church Pick
Holy Moonlight Sword
Logarius' Wheel
Rakuyo
Reiterpallasch
Saw Spear
Simon's Bowblade
Threaded Cane


>Good (Hunter) tier
Amygdalan Arm
Beasthunter Saif
Beast Cutter
Kirkhammer
Kos Parasite
Rifle Spear

>Meh-colash tier
Beast Claw (with Beast's Embrace)
Bloodletter
Boom Hammer
Chikage
Hunter Axe
Ludwig's Holy Blade
Saw Cleaver
Stake Driver

>Living Failure tier
Beast Claw (without Beast's Embrace)
Tonitrus
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>>148232414
Stake driver is hella fun PvE at least Ahh tier
>>
CHURCH PICK OR BURIAL BLADE?
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>>148233145
Both. Pick until you get BB, then change depending on situation.
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>>148232328
I was joking, it's shit.
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>>148232414
Is this ranked for usefulness or fun?
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>>148232328
Not the same anon but the gift works like the blue elixir just not as stronk.

Btw i find it much easier to fight the winter lanterns with low frenzy-RES.

Just parry and visceral them before the bar is full and they'll do shit all.

The timing is tricky but its the best way to get rid of or farm them.

I could share a vid of how to time the shots if you like.
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>>148233145
Style points

Burial Blade>>>>>>>>>>>Church Pick

Move set

Church Pick>Burial Blade

Damage

I don't fuckin know

I'd say go with the church pick because it's easiest to get and is pretty good though I prefer the burial blade
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>>148233431

A weighted average of both.
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>>148233113
Also Amy arm belongs in fucking great one tier
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>>148233464
Yeah, I understand what you're talking about, the main problem is usually trying to get to them before the bar fills
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>>148232414
I more or less agree with this list. I'd switch Rakuyo/Chikage around but its understandable why each are in their spots.
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How the fuck do I fight those goddamn two Giant Sharks in the well!?
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>>148235880
Get shark 1 to mid health and then shaman bone blade one of them, let them fight. If you're fighting them, try and bait the long lunge attack, it's easy enough to parry.
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>>148234392

Just have a look:

https://youtu.be/MjqRZyhOIrg

This is with more resistance, so i stagger them once before the VA to let the bar fill and do some extra dmg b/c the VA wouln't be enough.

Bl35 btw
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>>148236695
>every youtube video about video games must have shitty music
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>>148236695
You have quite a bit more resistance than me though
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>>148236695
How much frenzy resistance? It nearly kills me once the bar fills.
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>>148237012
Heh i just used the shitty sharefactory app and needed something to cover the screams.
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>>148237137
Frenzy won't do shit if you are in the VA animation, famalam
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>>148237143
I'd have preferred the screams.
Didn't know this was a good spot to farm gems though. NG+?
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>>148237257
Interesting, hadn't thought of that. Thought you were only immune to physical during the animation.
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>>148237274
Nope just ng. Char was bl35 at the time.

It's become one of my roitines for every new char i make. They drop 19.8% phys offshapes too, as seen at the end.
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O/c you can do the same thing in the Hamlet for 22% phys.

Great for twinks as you don't have to bare the CD at that lvl.
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>>148237610
I'm in the process of getting a CRF Isz going to use glyphs but this seems a little easier. Not sure if the drops are significantly better in CRF dungeons though.
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>>148238251
Depth 5 dungeons net you 27.8% gems. But for low bloodlevel 19.8% is fine imo.
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>level 43 invading nightmare frontier
>not getting shit
>why?
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>Level 43 bullying maria with ebrietas
>not getting dead
>why?
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>>148239494
You mocking me boy?
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>>148239324
>bl43

To low for NF. Try Cathedral Ward (remember to shut the gates for extra keks) or Hemwick, my man.

NF works best at around bl55 imo
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>>148239658
Nice, thanks man
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>>148239551
Nah mate, I'm literally the same level as you and I just came back from killing maria in search for the delicious Kos parasite.
The format of my comment was because your comment was the last one here and I thought it was fitting.
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>>148239850
Cool shit, good luck with Kos
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>>148239974
Thanks bud, good luck in bullying newbies
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*teleports behind u*
pshhh ... nothin personnel, hunter ...
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>>148240103
Thanks, I'm trying to stall before I have to go after Maria for the Bow blade and Bloodletter

im a shitter aren't I?
>>
Do you need Bloodtinge to bother with the cannon at all, or does the trash scaling mean that I can just upgrade it and rely on the base damage for a Strength build?
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>>148240989
Yeah don't bother upping Bloodtinge, just bone marrow it whenever you need to do some damage
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>torch wielding yharnamites are allowed to fuck you with their torch several times in a row doing a shit ton of damage
>try to do it
>can only attack every 2 seconds and you do shitty damage
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>>148242521
>complaining about the torch moveset

So, how ded is bbg?
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>>148240602
Of course you are!
That's also why I am getting Kos.
For the bullying
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>>148243385
I'm more complaining about getting fucked out of 15,000 blood echoes by a single torch wielder
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>>148242521
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Who wants to fight some Memes? These flailing retards keep clipping me.

Pass is memes, ringing beside sad blob lady outside fog
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>>148243513
Don't stand on there toes then?

You know how fast the fucking torch is, anon.
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>>148243801
I WAS DODGING THE FUCKING MACHINE GUNS IN HUNTERS NIGHTMARE, WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY PUT A TORCH SPAMMER THERE?
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>>148243971
>at Hunter's Nightmare
>complain about 15k echoes

You get that from killing 3 mobs.
>>
Anyone want to help me with Blood Starved Beast? First playthrough, been wasting insight on the npc hunter (UK)
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>>148244214
Pass? Omw
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>>148244214
Sure I melt BSB real quick. Pass?
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>>148244337
oh mate wifi just decided to fuck up, I'll update asap
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>>148244441
>>148244337
thanks for the offer lads
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>>148244632
Are we doing this now or wat?

Set a password, m80
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Anyone willing to help me beat Loran Darkbeast? I tired of beating my head against the wall.
Pass: bbg
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>>148245781
sure
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>>148245781
i'm searching
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>>148245954
Ringing, buddy.
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>>148245954
>>148246123
Should I restart my system, or is this the usual wait time?
>>
Aaaaaaaaaalright boys, who's up for an old-fashioned bullying? I need an Ayy and a Butcher, but any of you good lads'll do fine.

Ringing at Maria fog, pass is Bully
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>>148246928
i'll be there
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Man... Yagargul's music is making me trip so hard. Just excellent!
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>>148247127
On the subject of music, best OST in the game?
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>>148247191
Forgot to add, I'd say Gehrmans soundtrack
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>>148247191
cleric beast
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Someone come and help me with the Gatling Gun Hunter. He is incredibly annoying at a low level.
Ringing at the cave mouth. Pass: bbg
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>>148247127
SANGUINE

S A N G U I N E
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>>148247191
Papa G
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>>148245107
still fucked :(
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>>148246974
Thanks for the help! That was good stuff.
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>>148247463
On my way dude
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>>148247613
Damn. Try it solo then. Don't summon Alfred he is useless. Just walk (don't dash) to his left (your right) side and he will never hit you.
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>>148247127
Cute. Sliders?
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>>148247751
I'm not chancing it without you. Ringing again.
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>>148248384
One hit from this guy's a death sentence, damn

We'll get him, don't worry
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>>148247191
Can't say for sure for now, but so far Cleric beast's theme is the most iconic one. Yahargul's background music is something amazing though, and seeking the statue of an old one towering above you like that is giving me chills. It begins, boys.

>>148247835
I wish I knew, but this ain't my character.
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>>148245954
>>148246123
pls respond :(
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>>148247191
Lady Maria
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>>148247835
>>148248676
http://imgur.com/a/ptTAG
These sliders should probably be added into the OP, they get requested quite often.
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>>148249553
Yay, awesome!
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>>148247807
serious? I'll give it a try cheers
>>
Anyone wanna help me with Maria?
Pass is pass
>>
Hey M, you wanna clear out Party Cave?
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>>148249892
i'll ring in a sec
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>>148250152
Shit I'm sorry
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daily reminder that the Doll says she loves me and ya'll jelly
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Does anyone want to run through Cainhurst with me for the fun of it?
Pass: bbg
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>>148251008
On my way
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>>148250629
>>148250629
Reminder that Gehrman "uses" the doll while you're out hunting beasts and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>148251008
I'll join
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>>148251114
Dow, is that you again?
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>>148251008
Do you know the skip?
>>
>>148250629
>>148251231
Reminder that the doll has been "used" by every hunter that has passed through the dream. You're at sloppy thousanths by this point.
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>>148251253
Nope, I'm in the Hunter's Nightmare, if it's me you're talking about
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>>148251231
Reminder that dolls don't bleed, but when you hit her, white stuff flies out.
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>>148251258
Not them, but what skip?
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>>148251514
Implying that's not an Alien reference.
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>>148251664
>Implying ayys aren't made of cum
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>>148199076
im scared of the bug men at burgerworth
if anyone can hold my hand through cooperation password is raid im at the lamp
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>>148251628
You can jump off of one of the shelf-stairs in the library to land right at the leaver for the ladder.

Nobody seems to know about this but me.
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>>148252003
Ah, have you guys started?
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>>148209075
get the dlc, its GOAT best dlc in history
chikage is better than babyletter though
also bowblade is better but thats dlc too
>>
Why do I only get Triangle and Waning Bloodtinge offshapes? I still haven't gotten a Radial offshape.
>>
SANGUINEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>148252003
i didn't think that was a skip
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>>148251984
omw lad
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>>148252253
You skip half the level with it. How would you call that?

I can show you. I have a bl43 char there right now.
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>>148251114
Good shit, dude.
>>
DUMB CUNT MARIA
>>
bygenwerth hunter a savage
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>>148252765
You're welcome ;), nice to see you again
>>
Lemme grab some bolt paper, Holocaust
>>
Hey lads, question for you all.

Was there ever a moment in this game that you actually felt scared, and if so when? Personally I was tense as fuck in Hypogean Gaol, probably because it's the first instance of bg music without a boss in the game. Also jumped quite a lot at mobs attacking me in dark rooms pre-torch.
>>
>>148253624
Pretty much my entire first hour of the game, but after that I never got scared
>>
When the heck will I start being able using the runes? I feel like I've missed something.
>>
>spend 2 minutes getting to Logarius
>die to him in 20 seconds
>repeat
This is so fucking annoying
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>>148253491
s'all good, i got him, i like to rush him and ignore the spiders, rom isnt so scary as the fly men, thanks for help
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>>148254000
backstab him in phase transition and he wont be safe from staggers and in phase 2 parry him to death
phase 1 use fast weapon and rip his asshole
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>>148253982
You have to clear the chalice dungeons.
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>>148253982
Have you visited Henwick Charnel Lane?
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>>148253982
in a room behind witches of hemwick, then go to the table at the back of the workshop and use it
>>148254246
fear liar
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>>148254246
All of them?

>>148254318
No. How do I get there?
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>>148254000
Want some help?
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>>148254000
want some help?
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>>148253982
you bave to beat the game 5 times and then pass the Doll's 50 question math test 100% correctly. Good luck.
>>
>>148254449
>>148254501
I'm playing offline and I don't have plus.
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>>148254401
Go to the lamp where you killed Vicar Amelia, go out of the church past the two guys with 3 pronged sticks and head right
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>>148254609
I can't find Amelia at all. I can't find my way out of Cathedral ward to proceed right now.
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>>148254582
>having a ps4 without ps+

Well then
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>>148254401
to the right of the grand cathedral a path leads there, also make sure to get the cainhurst summons from iosefkas clinic and head to the obelisk at hemwick charnel lane, it takes you to easily one of the best zones in the game and one of the best boss fights of the game
a covenant
and some cool ass weapons
>>
>>148254748
Have you done Old Yharnam?
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>>148254582
its 5$ a month desu
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>>148254914
Yes. I might have figured it out. Let's see.
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>>148254775
>>148254914
It's a friend's friend ps4 and I don't want to pay for other person's plus. I also don't know his password so I can't switch profiles too, since the friend's friend is out of contact for a year and there are games on his account that my friend also plays
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>>148254995
Nice. Anybody else have trouble with finding Vicar Amelia when they first started the game? I remember on my first play through I started the chalice dungeons after Old Yharnam, because I had no idea where the fuck to go and thought that was the next area
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>>148255203
Fuck, second reply was meant to
>>148254941
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>>148255203
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>>148255426
yeah, it's a bit complicated
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>>148255203
>needing a password to switch profiles

What?
>>
Can you guys help me out here? I want to know the kanji for the Keeper of the Old Lords, so that I can scan pixiv for fanart. If anybody has it, I'd be obliged.
>>
>>148255612
If I need to go back from my profile to the owner's profile won't I need to enter his account password?
>>
>>148255743
Pretty sure no, and pretty sure you wouldn't need it anyways, any games that he bought on his account will show up on the other profiles
>>
>>148255743
Not by default
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>>148253624
The entirety of my first time through Upper Cathedral Ward. The singing, the darkness, the squelching of the Brainsuckers. The atmosphere in that area is one of the best, if not the best, in the game. Shame it wasn't longer.
>>
>>148255941
>>148255945
Well fuck me sideways then, though it's already a bit too late I guess, since I don't wanna do all the way up to Logarius again
>>
>>148254810
>>148254914
The problem I have that once exiting the Cathedral ward and reaching the top of the long stairs after defeating the giant Church dudes with the lanterns - I have a blocked gate and that's it.
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>>148256125
Why would you have to? You confusing me, anon. Stap
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>>148256236
If you did old Yharnam there should be a door opened to the right in the Cathedral wars that has an elevator go through that place and you'll end up behind the gate.

Or

Spend 10,000 blood echoes at the merchant in hunters dream to buy an emblem to open the gate
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>>148256125
I can show you a cool skip, mate.

didn't you open the shortcut lift?
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>>148256481
You can't transfer saves to another account, can you?
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>>148253624
While I wasn't actually scared, Upper Cathedral Ward is spooky as fuck, really tense.
>>
>>148255630
I don't know the kanji myself, but 守 is in a lot of words related to 'keeper' titles. Nothing explicitly means 'keeper', but 墓守り is 'grave keeper'. 主君 is 'lord', and I imagine 古い would be the word used for 'old', but that's making some assumptions.
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Really though why is the paleblood sky limited to central yharnam, cathedral ward, upper cathedral ward and yahar'gul?
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>>148256790
I did
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>>148256893
Because that's ground zero for the Mensis ritual. It's spooky space shit.
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>>148256829
Does the other acc have plus?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yncMReF8QA

comfy
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>>148257262
It doesn't but I can subscribe
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>>148257348
But why don't you do that on YOURE account?

I don't get it
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could use some help with orphan of kosm
im lvl 72
pass:54bbg

ill be by the fog gate
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Radial+radial+waning or radial+triangle+waning for fire/bolt?
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>>148257286
Oh nice! Gonna watch this shit
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>>148257534
On me way
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What's the best version of the Chikage? Lost?
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>>148257870
aight ty
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>>148257461
Okay, let's break it down:
>I'm currently playing on another person's account, completed the game up to Logarius
>Why I'm playing on another person's account? Because I've thought that if you switch profiles and you suddenly need to go back to the owner's profile you have to enter the owner's password, which I have no way to obtain
>Now it turns out that you can switch accounts without needing the password
>But if I switch accounts now, I have to start the game anew, since you can't transfer saves between different accounts, which I don't want to
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>>148258140
Ok. Got it
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>>148257920
Huh, lost connection, trying again
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>>148258405
that was on my end, my internet turned off for a second
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>>148258140
Correct me if I'm wrong (everyone in the thread) but couldn't this man transfer his save file on to a USB, make a profile and transfer is safe data on to that profile?
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If he has ps+ on one account, the whole ps4 has +. If none of the accs have + then he doesn't need to transfer his char. I really can't understand what he wants to do.
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>>148258569
I'm afraid game saves are bound to your acc
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>>148258495
Keeps losing the connection, man ;_;
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>>148258924
Nigga, I don't wanna do shit. I was just explaining the reason why I'm playing without plus and this is what it came to
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>>148258924
He doesn't want to pay for somebody else's subscription ( he couldn't anyways as he would need the guys password to purchase it on that profile) but he can't switch profiles because of his save data
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>>148259102
:(
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>>148259220
I'm trying again, maybe we should go to the lantern?
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>>148259318
aiht lets try that
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>>148259053
Really? so if you try to copy your save data from a usb onto another profile it won't let you?
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>>148257721
this chick is dropping lore
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>>148259507
I once made a super qt grill one a friends ps4, saved the data on an usb and couldn't import it onto my ps4. Maybe it only works with one profile.
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>>148259390
54bbg is the pass, right?
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>>148259550
>Chulhu
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>>148257878
Anyone?
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>>148259550
The Ebrietas theme suddenly blaring is fucking great
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>>148260248
Lost for pure Bloodtinge yeah. Normal of you wanna use both modes and better visceral damage from physical gems.
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>>148257286
Hotdog confirmed for warm and fuzzy cutie
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>>148260589
>>148260589
someone with a twitter should reach out to https://twitter.com/JimFowlerMusic for possible Ludwig's lyrics
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>>148260881
I'm using a 14/15/50 build, so I'm assuming I should use lost?
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>kill vicar amelia
>activate skull
>kill alfred

this is how to get the logarius wheel right?
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>>148261763
If you're a fuckface that doesn't want gestures
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>>148261906

thanks

need it for the trophy, wheel is last weapon missing
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Why is untricked Bloodletter so shit?
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>>148261763
If you're a loyal Vileblood, yes.
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>>148261228
It still depends on what you want. Physical gems increase BLT damage, so if you want higher viscerals, the other types will still be better for you. If you're looking for straight R1/R2 damage, lost will be better.
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>>148262057
>>148261972
vilebloods and trophy fags are equally the worst
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>>148261228
Honestly I thought about pure BLT too but in practice, I always found physical gems to be better. The difference in % damage is not enormous (3% per gem) and it greatly helps to be able to still do decent damage untransformed, when you want to shoot people or surprise them.
Of course PVE might be another story but with 3 +27% gem you should be fine anyway.
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>>148262657
Also, physical gems are waaaay easier to farm than BlT which are korean tier. It's simply not worth it imo.
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>>148262657
>>148263000

Yeah I think I'm just gonna go normal, I don't feel like going into ihyll to get a weapon
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>>148206918
>BoM
>not apex fun
>bowblade
>not fun
>rakuyo = boring because you don't like it lol
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>>148257286
After watching this, I kind of feel bad for listening to podcasts fighting bosses. Definitely going to listen to the themes for boss fights now, the game deserves it.
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>>148253624
Funny enough recently, when I decided to tackle Kos in a suicide run I was so proud of my little strategy in the first half of the fight. Being able to always lad my hit., Parrying the fucker. As well as dodging the homing, bitch projectiles.

Then he went SSJ and than I felt fear. Then anger. Than even more anger.
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>>148264721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbITyNflWoc

I got this on in the background now and I can see why Miyazaki would have picked it.
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Why is the Harrowed set so objectively superior stat-wise
It's not fair
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Anyone wanna give me a hand with Loran Darkbeast? I asked earlier and people responded, but it never worked ;_;
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>>148264427
Honestly I agree with Rakuyo being boring, shit gets old quick
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>>148267147
On my way
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Anyone wanna run through hunters nightmare with a level 43?
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>>148267960
Sure, okay. I'll kill everything for you. password is dolphin
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>>148268017
Sweet, thanks
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>>148267147
Password?
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>>148268264
>>148267504
Sorry senpai, had to fiddle with my router. Password is bbg.
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My bad, haven't tried the gattling gun guy yet, didn't realize he'd push my shit in like that
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God bless you, son. I can't beat that guy for the life of me. For some reason every other boss is simple except that one.
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>>148269607
You're welcome ;)
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Kos boss anyone?

Pass is raid

I'll be waiting outside the fog door
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How much END do I need to use the Burial Blade's full tricked L2 combo?
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>>148269946
On my way
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>>148268854
Fug
Well you should be fine now
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>>148270097
Yeah, thanks again!
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>>148270192
Yw! Besides I had never found this cave with the Blood starved beast
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>>148270586
Really? You get the gattling gun and Amy arm there
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>>148270089
Thank you my nigga.

His second form always fucked me up
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>>148270875
You're welcome ;)
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Just finally beaten Logarius, fucking hell
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At what point should i stop putting stats in to my Strength?
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>>148271328
Depends on your build, but if you want the most out of strength, go to 50.
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>>148271328
If you're going for a strength build 50 is hard cap
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>>148271393
soft cap*
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Amelia is wrecking me into pieces. Anybody up for her? Pass is bbg
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>>148207680
Huh. I thought I was being rused at first but I can confirm. And I didn't even know those guys could heal at all.

Doesn't work every time though. I've got 209 discovery and the first time I tried it I only got six blood vials for my trouble.
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>>148271393
I've always been told 25 is soft cap 50 is hard cap
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>play the dlc
>go up the church place
>see a lava guy sitting in a throne from far
>think fuck so a boss here already
>get close and he's already dead
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>>148272525
Technically you can still level after 50 and get returns, it's just they're so slight that it's pointless.
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>>148272221
Omw
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>>148272546
Should I tell him or should someone else?
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>>148272546
Have you completed the doc?
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>>148272741
Shh...just let him figure it out on his own.
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>>148271153
And now the question is: should I kill Alfred or not? I'm not exactly fond of Vilebloods but I also hate Alfred and his scourge-ridden ass
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>>148273030
>his scourge-ridden ass

Alfred is pure as fuck, what are you on about? He's your bro.
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>>148272741
some secrets are secret for a reason
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>>148273118
>implying
He's a madman falling into beasthood
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>>148272525
There are two soft caps, one at 25 and one at 50. After 50 the returns are diminished to almost nothing, but they're still returns, so it's not a hard cap.
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>>148273030
Give him the summons if you want to hear some of the best dialogue in the game.
And if you do, you won't need to worry about killing him yourself.
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>>148272741
>>148272991
Not like wanted to fight him anyways.

Only playing this dlc for the blood bending chick.
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>>148273490
Which will result in Alfred tearing Annalise to shreds. Again, I'm not a fan of Vilebloods, but being confined to a small room in a castle for god only knows how long is already quite enough of a punishment
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>>148273951
You know that you can resurrect her if you bring her flesh to the Altar of Despair?

And I'm a Vileblood fan, and I've still done it just to hear him go crazy.
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>>148274204
I know about resurrection, I've just assumed that it's like in Dark Souls, meaning that there will be a tombstone or some shit with her functions
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>playing through NG+
>notice a sign i never saw before
>figure i'll summon cos why not
>father gasc himself, not even some mockery NPC hunter
>after killing the brick monster by the door he gets stuck in place at the door, unable to move
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>>148274582
Aah, dw you'll soon understand that unlike DS2, BB isn't completely fucking retarded.
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Someone wanna take down Ludwig with me? Is second phase is fucking me up. pass is bbg
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>invade some cosplayer named Lady Maria and dressed as her
>she uses an arcane-buffed Rakuyo
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Every night before i go to sleep i pray for a good sequel to bloodborne.I'll never get it right?
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>>148275764
Why exactly does that piss you off?
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>>148275897
nigga it aint right
only fire is acceptable on maria cosplay
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>>148275897
Maria doesn't use arcane at all. If you're gonna cosplay, go all the way
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>>148274582
you can take her mashed potatoes to be fixed and she's good as new lod
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>>148276093
>>148276085

Kek, I see
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>>148273225
>beasthood

Doesn't show a single sign of this.
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>>148276584
I believe he meant to say he was becoming blood-drunk
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>>148276584
Yeah, except his eyes and his complete blood drunkeness. I'm not saying that he's already a beast, but he's already fallen into it
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If Anita Weener is on here, I'm so sorry but your health is too low and its too fucking funny to not one shot you with the cannon at this point.

Now shooting you with the cannon as soon as you spawned may have been a bit of a dick move but I had no choice

Also getting my bullets back and using the whistle on you while you were throwing pebbles was kind of bad as well
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>>148276958
*already started falling into it
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>>148256893
Budget reasons probably. But with enough lore implications to make it seem like it could be intentional.
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Has anybody strained their ears enough to understand the whispering in Micolash's boss room?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-BY5EiKg6o
daily reminder that ludwig is random number generator bullshit 100%
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Is there a short cut to Laurence or do i gotta run all the up to him.
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>>148277513
I don't understand, he's pretty hard but it gets easier when you understand that the trick is to be as aggressive as he is/
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>>148277763
uuuh no
its random number generator bullshit and it rolls a dice and depepdning on what it lands on he 1 shots you undodgeable even though i dodged
GOD
I DODGED
then he cameras you because the camera is crap n :UNGE also in phase 2 stupid bullshit with rng decides to just undodgable 1shot you even though i dodged
I DODGED
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LOOK AT THAT NICE CAMERA ANGLE
HAHAHAH
LOOK
OH
IM IN THE CORNER
HOOHOHOHO
IM THE CAMERAMAN
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>>148277992
m8 he's not THAT hard

I think your problem is that you need to dodge
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>>148277992
>>148278212
the souls series cameras are always fucky when it comes to charges and walls
>biggest threat in the gascoigne fight is the camera wrestling with the gravestones
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>>148277758
Gotta run to him
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>>148277513
What the hell is up with his damage? What NG is he on? NG Ludwig only has 16,658, and even NG+ should be going down faster than that.
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At SL70, what place can I invade reliably?
1v1 in Frontier are getting 2boring
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>>148278269
UUUH
NO BECAUSE
AND EVERY FUCKIN DODGE I DODGED BUT I GET HIT AND HES THE CAMERA MAN UHUHUHUHUHU
AND RANDOM NUMBER AND TEDIUM AND REPITITION
cause HE ALWAYS DOES THAT HE JUST SPAMS ! SHOT NO DODGE NON STOP
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>>148277758
It's the exact same run as Amelia, it's not that bad. Just run past everyone, wait for Boulder trap and then wait for Cthulu Executioner to come out of the Cathederal and roll around him and sprint up the stairs.

Speaking of boss runs, which do you guys think is the most obnoxious in the game? I honestly can't think of one that legit frustrates me, Hemwick is a fairly long run with some almost forced encounters, but since I've never died more than once to the Witch's it's never really bothered me.
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Why the fuck does Valtr without his helmet look like Customgrowth420
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>>148278860
Logarius definitively
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>>148278860
shadows of yarnham is a fairly long run, but i almost never die to them so its not a big deal
gascoign is a pretty long run and i had my fair share of deaths to him the first few times around
logarius is easily the worst run back, but honestly the quality of that boss fight undoes the harm of the run back in my opinion
laurence the first vicar is a pretty long run and not exactly the easiest boss in the game
the one that i've spent the most time running back to for sure
on the other hand i think the best run back is to lady maria, when i die to maria i don't even care, actually a bit glad i get to enjoy the fight more because i know i can just jump back in
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>>148279078
>forces you to take damage

fuck that path
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Anyone wanna slaughter Laurence?

Pass is flame.

Gonna be at the fog door.
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>>148278860
Definitely Cleric beast, I say this because the newbies that have to face him have to deal with either

>shit ton of peeps
>two wolves
>a brick troll

Or if you take the shortcut

>three peeps
>a brick troll

When you first start the game those encounters are hell
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>>148277513
>>148277992
>>148278212
>>148278661

It's time to go to bed anon, getting legit angry and talking to no-one in particular about how unfair it is means you're not going to beat him. Come back later calm and rested and you'll probably do it in a few tries.

HOLY SHIT HEADLESS BLB IS UTTER BULLSHIT, WHY WOULD YOU PUT HIM IN A ROOM THIS SMALL?? WHY MAKE HIS SLAM HITBOX THE SIZE OF UTAH?? WHY DOES AN ENTIRE STAMINA BAR FROM A +10 SAW SPEAR WITH ~22% GEMS DO THE SAME % TO HIS HEALTH AS SINGLE R1 SWINGS AGAINST DES/DAS BOSSES???

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>148278661
He staggers pretty easily though unless you're going at him with the BoM or somethig, my tactic is always to dodge and then hit, dodge and then hit, dodge and then hit.
Eventually he'll stagger enough that you can get a few more hits in and when he reaches half health that's when the real bullshit begins. The timing feels awkward on his sword and the only tactic I end up using is to dodge to his right and then pound him in the crotch to get a visceral.

>>148278869
Nah from the Yorkshire accent and the fucking hair, he's definitely based on Sean Bean.
The question is, is Miyazaki a LOTR fan, a GoT shitter or an Elder Scrolls fan?
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>>148278860
Just fuck Logarius, man, I hate that boss
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>>148279960
>Wheelies always talkin shit on vilebloods
>Literally worship a magic spamming piece of shit DS2 OCDONUTSTEAi
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>>148279585
UH SHUT UP KID IM OVERRALL ONE OF THE BEST GAMERS IN THE COUNTRY
ITS RNG BAD GAME DESIGN AND I FUCKING DODGED
>>148279865
UH NO BECAUSE HE JUST RNGS AND 1 SHOTS YOU ALSO MOVES OUT OF THE WAY EVERYTIME I ATTACK JUST MISSES ALSO ONLY WAY TO EVEN DO DAMAGE IS TO TRADE HITS AND HOPE HE DOESNT RNG !))%
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>>148279865
>The question is, is Miyazaki a LOTR fan, a GoT shitter or an Elder Scrolls fan?

He's probably a LotR fan considering how big into fantasy he is, he's probably read the Song of Ice and Fire books and I want to say he's a TES fan but it's hard to say. He'd probably like the batshit lore behind those games.
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>>148280156
the way logy chains his attacks together is godly
one of the best bosses for sure
>>148280231
hes a weeb
the two best bosses ludwig and artorias were both from berzerk
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>>148280156
>implying every single vileblood character isn't a donut steel of fanfiction.net proportions

Nigga Logarius a spooky scary mummy man with some Pthumerian shit

>DS2

Someone's a salty lad
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>>148280231
>>148280357
>Countless Berzerk references
>At least five Harry Potter references by this point
>Jojo's Bizarre references
>Kaiju movie references
>Actually just put Sean Bean in a game
Miyazaki confirmed for the weebest nerdiest game director/developer ever.
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>>148279458
D'you still need help? I love cooping Laurence.
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BOSS RANKS
1.Ludwig the rotten cock
2.Gehrman the first hunter
3.Lady maria of the asstral cocktower
4.orphan of kos or some say kosm
5.martyr logarius
6.father gascoigngnoignogn
7.ebrietas daughter of the cosmos
8..moon presence
9. micolash, host of the nightmare
10.laurence the first vicar
11.ooh amygdala
12.cleric beast
13.mergos wet nurse
14.living failures
15..vicar amelia
16.ring wraiths of yharnam
17.rom the vacuous spider
18.darkbest paarl
19.blood starved poison
20.one reborn
21.celestial emissary
22. witches of hemwick
objective factual list based on quality of fight
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>>148281163
>Actually just put Sean Bean in a game

wat
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>>148281351
Papa Dieseldollar is at least number 3.
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>>148281213
Yeah i'm still chilling for a co op.
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>>148281485
>Better than maria
i struggled for 5 minutes straight deciding if i should give micolash that spot
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>>148281373
Referring to Valtr
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>>148281351
>ranking Ludwig above Gehrman

If it's ranked on quality of fight Gehrmans first

>dat music
>dem feels
>dat difficulty
>dat reward

Fuck you and your Ludwig shit
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>>148281608
Yeah, you're damn right better than Maria. Better theme, better arena, better dialogue, better design, fine tuned pretty much perfectly to introduce you to the mechanics of the game as well as some lore. I look forward every damn time to fighting in NG+ cycles.

Micolash is a great boss fight in spite of the actual combat. His arena, theme, dialogue and design are top notch and the chase around the arena is what makes him stand out.

But Maria? Maria was wasted potential when we could have gotten spooky vampire shit instead of anime bloodfire swords. Not to mention she feels a little tacked on.
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>>148281892
Also

>boss has changing difficulty depending on how much insight you have

This motherfucker has a hard and easy mode he's so great
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>>148281213
Thanks bruh and what is that weapon you got?
That jump attack looked cool.
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>>148282056
Pardon fuck? What changes with high insight?

>>148282091
It's the Beast Claw, you get it from the chalice dungeons. It has a completely different moveset if you use it with the rune you just got from Laurence.
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>>148281915
Fuck you she's a cool fight especially if you don't cheese with parrying.
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Don't tell me you stupid fucks just got trolled by an DSP impersonator lmfao
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Anyone want to help me bully father Gascoyne? Lvl 18, +2 weapon pass is bbg, Central Yahrnam light
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>>148281892
>Dat music
best in the series agreeable
>dem feels
best in the series
>dat difficulty
just about perfect if you don't spam your gun, kinda like gwyn
>dat reward
coolest weapon in video games
i guess so ludwig a best
also arena is infinitely better
>>148281915
i have a character paused before maria and i keep loading old saves from PS cloud to fight her repeatedly

>better theme
absolutely not
>his arena
great arena for him, shit for any other boss, maria is a pure hunter fight, needs to be open arena, visually the astral clocktower is god tier as well
>better dialogue
>marias vague hints about how a corpse should be left alone
>talking about kos and the secrets of the nightmare
god tier
>BEAST ALL OVER THE SHOP
>(talk about blood)
don't get me wrong gehrmans dialogue is great, but its inferior to maria
maria lore 10/10 too
>maria is a spooky vampire
she hates using blood power
her anime bloodfire swords (which were fucking god tier dont talk shit about them) showed her desperation to protect the secret of the nightmare
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>>148282240
That actually might have just been a rumor, can anyone confirm?
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>>148282594
Who?
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>>148282827
>ludwig a best
oops, meant to say gehrman a best
will update list in any future post
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>>148282798
I'll be there if you give me a minute
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>>148283381
Sure, still ringing
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>>148282827
Well, I disagree, but we're both entitled to our opinions and different tastes. Arguing about it via greentext won't change anyone's mind.

And the vampire thing, I meant that one panel in the art book where she looks completely different, pic related on the bottom left. I guess I just expected a more dramatic change than just fire, especially if she was willing to go full Cainhurst to protect the Nightmare's secret.
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>>148283562
i feel like she should have done the fire first, then the blood
but she wouldn't be as waifu with that transformation
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/10733560
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>>148281351
>Best Music
Ebrietas (that fucking crescenodo man, just fuck)
Gehrman
Ludwig van Rapehorsen
Orphan

>Best feels
Ludwig
Ebrietas
Orphan

>>148281915
>anime bloodfire swords
Getting her down to enough health to see her use the Bloodfire swords on the first run was a sight to behold.

The fight is over saturated with parrying opportunities but it progresses in such a natural way that it doesn't at all feel out of line when she gets out the fire (Unlike a certain boss from DS3).

And her dialogue is much more memorable than Gascoigne's or even Micolash's imo just because it hints towards the secret you're trying to unravel in the dlc and its pertinent to the boss fight at hand.

Love Micolash's lines but I enjoy his lines becaause of how batshit insane and rambly he is
also AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Maria is to the point and doesn't repeat herself giving her lines

>>148283562
That would have been cool but I bet they looked at it and thought "This is too much like Logarius and Pthumerian Elder"
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>>148283135
Nice, 10/10
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNfYKbc1_a0
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>>148283381
Thanks anon, that was quite the bullying
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There's a note saying "Ascend to Oedon Chapel" in the Hunter's Dream where Gehrman sits when he meets the player in the beginning.
Is this new? OR AM I FUCKING RETARDED?
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>>148283908
>ebrietas

How did ebrietas give you feels?
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What is a good level for consistent invasions at mergos loft
i'm looking to do micolash invasions
>>148284314
well, ascend oedon chapel
what r u ?
casul?
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>>148284314
You're retarded anon
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Anyone up for Headless Bloodletting Beast coop?

Ringing at Layer 2 lamp and Password is maggots
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>>148284346
I don't want to hurt the cute, squishy blue baby :(
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>>148284263
Sure thing anon, let me know if you're up for more co-op


Anyone up for Hemwick in the daytime? Ringing my beckoning with pass Lebowski near the lamp. NG BL26
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>>148284538
You're weak
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>>148284346
>>148284450
Oh does it only appear when Arianna gives birth?
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>>148284664
no bitch it means climb up that damn chapel and fight fuckin aliens
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>>148284930
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH I see

I might be retarded then
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yo anyone up for some research hall coop?

im a twink so if you have one that'd be fun
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BEST AREA IN BLOODBORNE POLL http://www.strawpoll.me/10733654
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>>148284535
Thank you so much, 10 Vitaility can only go so far, but now I can farm Radial Gems.
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I don't understand alternatives to gems that strictly increase my AR. I've been using Tonitrus and alot of people have told me to use blunt or bolt gems even though they decrease the AR seen on screen. I realize the weapon does these damage types, but I'm having trouble grasping how it's advantageous to lower AR.

The reason I ask is because I'm going to start using HMS and Church Pick, which I know do arcane and thrust damage respectfully.

I'm looking for some gemming advice and how I can benefit from gems that don't increase AR directly.
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>>148285236
nigga why 10 vit
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>>148285167
Mariafags pls go
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>>148283908
>And her dialogue is much more memorable than Gascoigne's or even Micolash's imo just because it hints towards the secret you're trying to unravel in the dlc and its pertinent to the boss fight at hand.

Her line is good, but that's it. Gascoigne's is very pertinent to the entire beast scourge. 'You'll be one of them, sooner or later' and 'What's that smell?' are very telling pieces of dialogue about how the plague works. His eyes are bandaged up and the reference to odour is made by more than one character. Gascoigne's daughter, Chapel Dweller and Annalise recognize you as a Hunter by your smell rather than any visual indicator. Gascoigne smells the blood and he smells you. He's also blood-drunk, which we only get an indicator of because of the DLC and some hints from Eileen's line of work. He's a wonderfully crafted introduction and piece of lore and he has a personality.

Micolash, he's talking sense the whole time. He's insane from existing in the Nightmare longer than his natural lifespan, but everything he says is something, somewhere, he's a top Mensis/Byrgenwerth scholar. He references Kos by name, there's every possibility that weird little shit was at the Fishing Hamlet. He knows the deal with Rom, that Kos made Rom into the Vacuous Spider. And he too shows the most character, I think, out of most of the bosses. Gehrman, Micolash and I think Ludwig are the most proper characters. I never got that from Maria, there's just not enough.
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>>148284621
Omw
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So if i kill the final base game boss does that automatically start NG+?
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>>148285278
chikagoy here
you pretty much always want attack up gems, but there are gems that are attack up + something else lets say blood attack up, you can stack that for some big damage on weapons like the chikage
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>>148285396
my favorite bosses are gehrman, micolash, and wendigo, but i appreciate the best zone when i see it bro
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THERE ARE NO BLOOD VIALS IN CAINHURST
THERE ARE NO BLOOD VIALS IN CAINHURST
ITS SUCH A DANGEROUS ZONE AND YOU"RE ALWAYS TAKING DAMAGE WITH THOSE BLOWDART COCKS AND THERE ARE NO BLOOD VIALS WHAT THE FUCK
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Gehrman is a shit final boss.

I wish i could fight Gwynn with BB's combat instead.
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>>148285839
Those blowdart cocks drop blood vials.

;^)
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>>148285450
Yes, although depending on what you've done in the game there are two possibilities for the "final" boss.
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>>148285397
>He's insane from existing in the Nightmare longer than his natural lifespan,
Has he though? I always got the impression that the Mensis Ritual is going on the first time you arrive in Hypogeon Goal from the Snatcher, since the music is all spooky, the doors are closed and Adella says she hears people screaming in the distance.

>>148285941
Moon Presence is the final final boss though.
How fucked would it be if Gwyn was the final boss for DS, DS3 and BB?
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>>148285839
No blood vials, only Vile Bloods.
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Who is the host of the Hunters Nightmare?
Simon? Brador? Ludwig? Maria? Is it mentioned anywhere? And what i mean as host is like Micolash or Gehrman
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>>148285941
shut the fuck up
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>>148232414
Isn't the beast claw supposed to be better without the beast rune?
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>>148286214
>Most likely Maria's gravestone
>Doll sits at the gravestone from time to time
>She's the last boss before you fight the Nightmare (Gehrman and Mico were the last bosses before you fought actual great ones)
I think its safe to say Maria although Brador is a close second I think just because he's locked up and hidden away and he comes at you so many times he might be a contender
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>>148286663
>its better with less moves
whaat
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>>148286149
You get to the second floor of the lecture hall through Micolash's corpse. It's the only one with the elongated Mensis Cage.
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>>148286663
For PvP. PvE, Beast's Embrace racks up beasthood comically fast, to the point where you can net actual thousands of damage in a single stamina bar.
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>>148286236
He's an old ass faggot that should stick to sleeping while i go rape Maria
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>>148285941
Gwyn is way too fucking overrated

>>148286778
>Willem has the biggest hat
>Micolash has the biggest hat
>assuming the statue in the nightmare is of Laurence he had the biggest hat as well
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>>148286730
It's faster without the rune.
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>>148286889
SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>148285067
Anyone....? Pls ;_;
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>>148286149
Well we find his desiccated corpse in a chair behind One Reborn's bossroom, same sized cage and outfit.

It's really hard to gauge time in this game sometimes. I mean, who left all the notes in Yahar'gul for you to find? Captured people, who just happen to know all about the Mensis ritual? How long have they been there. I somehow get the feeling this has been a very long time coming and Micolash has been overlooking the Mensis ritual preparations for a while, but we arrive when it's in full swing.
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>>148287134
sorry anon, fapping at the moment and I promised myself I wouldn't stop midway for co-op anymore
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>>148285419
Thanks for the company bud. Up for Amelia?
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>>148286932
beast mode with beast blood pellet is pretty much highest dps in the game
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>>148287245
Sure
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So if Sony decides to do a BB2 without any involvement from FS whatsoever (since we now know that it's entirely their IP) what do you guys think the first fuck up will be?
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>>148287364
Ringin at the lamp.
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>>148287245
Room for another?
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>>148287229
Finish quick then
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>>148287509
You bet. pw Lebowski, ringing at Cathedral Ward lamp
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>tfw to lazy to understand fuck all about the story in bloodborne
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>>148285278
AR is lying bullshit especially on weird weapons like Tontrius or HMS, look at the Gem Screen instead and do your own math.

For weapons that do solely Blunt/Thrust damage (or if you just plan on using those attacks) those gems are superior since they always have higher % at same rating. Note that Thrust gems affect visceral damage while Blunt does not. The same applies to Blood attack on Chikage/Bloodletter, higher % but only affect the blood type moves of the weapon.

Flat damage gems are also odd (hehe) since they arnt affected by attack multipiers, which makes them great for fast hitting weapons that don't do much damage per attack (EG Wheel's multihit attacks) but pretty lame on something that gets its damage from having higher modifiers (Kos Parasite).

Scaling gems are garbage, except rating 20 ones which are some of the best gems in the game. Heavy or Cold Abysmalls can make any weapon into a STR or ARC weapon with fantastic scaling.

Noirishing gems affect all damage, but have lower %'s, ideal for Split damage weapons (3 Nourishing's on a HMS is damn near broken) and also fantastic for using whilst you get ideal gems for other weapons, since it helps everything.
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>>148286778
Oh yeah I got that, I just assumed that being sucked into the nightmare killed him.

idk the notes you get saying stuff like "mad men toil in darkness, unravel their plans" and just what is going on at the time you arrive at Hypogeon Goal and how the snatchers and Yar'hargul hunters are kidnapping people left right and centre before the bloodmoon seem to hint that the ritual is going on at the night of the hunt.
Then when the moon drops, the Snatchers are disposed with when they are no longer needed, I mean eehh
And Mico's dialogue "No one can catch us, no one can stop us now" sort of have connotations of only just being free to do whatever he wants.

Also Mico doesn't seem to understand that he is dead in the waking world either.

idk really its kind of an odd point of lore, I kind of think they were sacrificing towns folk in order to reach the Nightmare and that everything on the way to it kind of hints to that, including the One Reborn who seems to be an amalgamation of all the people Mensis have killed

On the other hand though he is a fucking mummy when you first see him and within the timeline of BB it would make sense that he'd be very old were he still alive.
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>tfw fall for the fire arrows thrice
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>>148287712
I'm at the point where I don't want to talk about it anymore because everyone that participates at this stage always needs to be brought up to speed on every little thing and people end up arguing about stuff that was already talked to death months and months ago
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>>148287428
definitely would be trying to make the game hard instead of good
without fromsoft or miyazaki it would be a disaster
pretty much nioh if you played the demo in bloodbornes universe
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>>148287923
what are we meming about here
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Very well done gents.
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>>148287712
It is complicated, but there's a basic set of events to get a grasp on.

>some scholars discover ancient ass ruins under the city
>ruins belonged an ancient superhuman race called Pthumerians
>they apparently made contact with alien beings and scholars also discover a source of miracle blood down there
>scholars decide that armed with all this they can evolve humanity
>lead scholar, Willem, says we should make contact to learn eldritch knowledge, another scholar, Laurence, says we should use blood
>they split, Larry founds the Healing Church to experiment on the populace
>uh oh it makes werewolves
>nights of the hunt become the norm for who knows how fucking long
>Church higher ups are still into some nasty spooky shit
>gonna make contact with alien gods which will consequently make everything worse
>then you arrive
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>>148287971
>Nioh
Has anyone here played the demo? From what I've seen I'm not really impressed.
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>>148288235
Happy to help
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>>148288493
as of the first 2 bosses in the demo i say 6/10 game
from my experience its a soulslike that tries too hard with the hard meme
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>>148288597
>>148288235
Done for now, I'll be back later summoning for nighttime Cleric Beast if you guys are interested.
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>>148288671
It was a very early alpha and they seemed to have taken all the feedback seriously. I'm still quite aphrebsive but I'm exited to try the next demo whenever it is.
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Nobody wants to go on an adventure through research hall with me?
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>>148287746
Tonitrus is the biggest liar of the bunch.

>Pretends to get damage bonus when you're at full HP
>Gains your trust by acknowledging that tricking it buffs its damage
>But doesn't actually calculate that extra damage correctly

Fuck Archibald.
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>>148288493
Tries way too hard to be high lethality and became unfun because of it. Basic goober enemies would cut you down in 2-3 hits, it would take you much longer. Demo was rough as all hell, to be honest. Everything felt more like a task than a trial to be overcome.
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What if the Doll's white blood is actually Breastmilk?
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>>148290724
>>148289234
>>148288671
Was that atmosphere particularly interesting at all? From what I saw it looked alright, not much compared to any Souls game honestly, but maybe it was different playing it.
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somebody pls summon me for something
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>>148287892
I think Micolash does know that he's dead in the waking world, that's why he says, "Now I'm waking up. I'll forget everything!"

As for sacrificing towns folk, they were indeed doing that, but I don't think it was to reach the Nightmare. I think it was to create their own Great One: The One Reborn.
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>>148269974
40
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>>148290902
it felt kinda bland imo
a whole lot of the same
but some interesting parts
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>>148290902
Didn't get much of an atmosphere from it. I feel like it wants to go for something specific, an ancient land drenched in dark folklore come alive, but I didn't feel it. Too many gameplay problems to overcome first before I can get immersed, you know?
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>>148276958
He kills himself before he turns anyway so...
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>>148290736
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think it's a reference to Alien.
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>>148291124
Key word is 'reborn', though. What was being reborn? Was it a body for Mergo?
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>>148291146
That's absolutely retarded.
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>>148288493
I thought the demo was OK. It had some problems, but the patch notes I read afterward seemed to fix the worst stuff. Stuff like terrible turning radius, awful camera, enemies OHKO'ing you before you had a chance to get any armor.

Armor makes a HUGE difference. Starting armor = basic enemies hit you for 80 to 100% of your life. With whatever garbage armor you find lying around, and you can survive 3 or 4 hits. With good armor, you'll be able to survive 4 to 6 attacks from most enemies.

Enemies are pretty clumsy with attacks that are very telegraphed, have no tracking, long recoveries, etc., but in exchange for that, you're expected to really not get hit much. And they'll often come at you in groups, or ambush you.

The game actually used random drops in an interesting way. Equipment breaks FAST and you have a limited supply of repair items, so getting a really good item is something you'd use as sort of a temporary power-up, rather than a permanent piece of gear. It felt like it actually succeeded at using random loot as something you had to adapt to, rather than something you just farmed until you had full best-in-slot.
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anyone want to give a tour of the hunter's nightmare to a lvl43?

pass is bbg
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>>148291057
what system?
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>>148286149
>Has he though? I always got the impression that the Mensis Ritual is going on the first time you arrive in Hypogeon Goal from the Snatcher, since the music is all spooky, the doors are closed and Adella says she hears people screaming in the distance.
The Ritual is already Ongoing by the time you've arrived
Rom is just hiding it from sight so that the MP can't do shit
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>>148291418
That's only if you don't wanna use the Stamina Runes
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>>148291817
going to eat quick, i'll be back in about 20 minutes.
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>>148291124
> I think Micolash does know that he's dead in the waking world, that's why he says, "Now I'm waking up. I'll forget everything!"

He thought he was going wake up in the "real" world like from a dream and forget everything he learned in the nightmare, like the Yharmam Sunrise ending.

Instead he woke up dead.

As for The One Reborn, it's decidedly not a great one (since Trophy descriptions for Rom, CE, Eribritas, Wetnurse and Amy confirm they are, but TOR isn't). I think there's two options for what it is, either a (failed) attempt at creating a Great One possibly a body for Mergo, or Alternativly retrieving a whole bunch of Mensis Scholars/Yharhagul townsfolk from the nightmare all at once either to fight you or maybe even an attempt to return them to the waking world with Mergo since Rom's cosmic cock block has been stopped.

Either way I'm almost certain that Michalosh has been in there for a long time, and Yharhagul was nuked with some kind of petrifaction explosion a long time ago.

Rom wasn't stopping people going into the Nightmare, she was stopping stuff from being retrieved from it.
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>>148289542
Still looking for a partner? A hunter is never alone.
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>>148293867
Yep, pass is bbg
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>>148293867
Where you at?
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>>148292741
The whole area after The One Reborn has the same skeletal, emaciated people, although distinctly different from the petrified people in YHG. I understood this to mean that Mensis did a ritual to enter the Nightmare with Micolash as the host. However they never left the Nightmare, leaving their worldly bodies to rot. Ostensibly Mensis in YHG still has a method to enter the Nightmare to bring research done by Micolash and his cronies back to the real world.

Back to The One Reborn. I don't think that retrieving people from the Nightmare would fuse them together, especially given that The One Reborn is born of a womb that covers the moon. It seems obvious that this is a new being in the process of being birthed by the (or one of) the rituals of Mensis.
I don't think it's likely that The One Reborn was created for Mergo because the Wetnurse is guarding Mergo and does not seem to be friendly to outsiders, no matter their affiliation (Choir, Mensis, Moon Presence Hunter, etc.), not to mention that Mensis already had a veritable Great One to study: the Brain of Mensis.
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>>148294604
>>148294067
Sorry for the wait. Ringing now
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anyone want to help me go through the hunter's nightmare?

pass is bbg
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Fuck my bad
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>>148295003
pls por favor
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Haha I don't think I've ever seen that attack. Almost got me too
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....... I've gone through Research Hall about 6 times and in all those times I never knew those blobs fucking did that
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Is Stake Driver worth using on a pure Strength build, or is it a strictly quality weapon?
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I love co-op ever since the original dark souls. That's the only part where bloodborne is slightly lacking. A summon sign on the floor is simply an invitation to any player to get help easily. Actually ringing requires action. I hate having to wait 15-20 minutes to get summoned, even in the weekends.
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Fuck's sake. Sorry. Hope you can get to the lever at least and we can move on
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>>148296604
No problem that guys an asshole
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>>148295003
>>148296123
Earn your twink.
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>>148296123
omw
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Anyone around BL35 for Logarius?
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>>148297003
Yeah, password?
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>>148297003
Eh? Passwords ignore level when you're summoning for co-op.

That being said, I'm nowhere close.
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>>148297183
bbg
I just died, so I'm on my way to him again.
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>>148296270
Steak is strength/quality. You'll get better benefits from strength than skill, so your optimal stat spread is probably 50/25 with a heavy abyssal.
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>>148297730
Ringing at the fog
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Hey Lewen I'm gonna get some Vials and we can do living failures, I'll fuck with Adeline later I always end up having to go back and forth to the hunters dream to get her to work
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Sounds good. Yeah she always needs a few quits and reloads for me
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>>148199076
>Hidden amongst the furthest reaches of the treacherous eastern mountains this city lies in seclusion. Forgotten. Cursed.

Eastern relevant to what, /bbg/? Boletaria?
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fuck you ludwig
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>>148297980
You up for Maria?
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>>148298174
Re-gemmed to fire real quick, still ringing if you want to try again.
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>>148297853
Much obliged.
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>>148298248
wait one,stil fighting
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>>148297847
Ahhh, noted. Damn, might have to go past BL98...
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>>148298248
thanks bud
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>>148298979
np
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>>148298540
Why?

Either make do with 10 END or 45 VIT, both are easily doable.
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>>148292741
The One Reborn is Bb's riff on Frankenstein's monster, but instead of a new man being assembled from other men and reanimated by abstract chemistry and alchemy, it's a new god being assembled from willing and unwilling cultist members, melted in blood and reborn through the mensis ritual, which is why the streets outside of Advent plaza are caked with bodies and mud, Yahar'gul is one big birth canal.
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>>148299078
It's time
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gehrman the first hunter is the greatest boss fight of all time
his ost is the greatest ost of all time
actually looking into the lyrics its literally perfect
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>>148299598
>actually looking into the lyrics its literally perfect

post em
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>>148299045
Just ran the numbers... that works, actually.
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>>148277172
just like that void in Hemwick where a river is supposed to be
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>>148298090
Eastern as in spooky Transylvania land.
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>>148298090
It's in the Romanian mountain range
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Thanks so much for the help Lewen! This shit is usually so boring/difficult. Was nice to have some company!

we bullied that bitch
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>>148299908
You got it, my man. Happy to accompany, sorry for the slip up.

You up for that nighttime cleric beast fight?
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Who wants to do some Sperlunking on the quest for Cold Abysmal's.

Glyph is kkvk8gsj and password is bbg. Ideally we would all help eachother clear the dungeon and take turns savescumming.
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>>148300061
Sure, let me just divide run the bow blade real quick.

And on that note, anyone know the best version of the bow blade for pure arrow use?
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>>148299894
>Romanian mountain range

That's actually perfect
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>>148300282
Lost, for the Circle Slot.
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>>148300282
Suicide run*
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The Hunt seems like a fairly regular occurrence according tp NPC dialogue and notes left around. Did the Mensis ritual just happen to coincide with this Hunt or is each a response to the alarming number of beasts brought on by the ritual to beckon the moon?
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>>148300394
>>148300282
does the little arrow swipe you do with the l2 when it's tricked count as bloodtinge or regular damage?

It should be a thrust.
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>>148300061
Pass for the cleric beast fight?
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>>148300698
same, bbg. I'll be ringing near Central Yharnam lamp in just a minute
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>>148300550
It's definetly physical as is the jump attack, not sure if it counts as Thrust though. Either way they don't scale off Bloodtinge.
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>>148300091
Anyone?

Layer 1 is easy, layer 2 is confusing as hell. But a whole bunch of stuff spawns into poison, so if you wait at the lamp a couple rooms are cleared.
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>Night after night, Hunters arise to cleanse the streets...

I watched the old trailers recently, and the way this one is shot at the begining...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5o8jwqKsDE

...paired with that little exert from the CE artbook implies that the hunters don't exist in Yharnam normally, but are like phantoms and come to it at the beckoning of the various bells in the game, like the ones on the lamps. It's nice going back to the old trailers and interpreting their lore hints after playing the full game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTDvYvlyPaE
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I just had a lapse in judgment and shot down patches in nightmare frontier, did I just fuck myself out of the stamina rune?
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Current stats are:
VIT 22
END 17
STR 16
SKL 16
BLT 9
ARC 8

What's a fun build bbg? I already did a quality build with some arcane mixed into it. And don't say strength/bloodtinge, I refuse to spec for one awful weapon.
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>>148301964
50/25 str/skl, use the Beast Claw with Embrace and REEEE it up.
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>>148301935
Nope, you didn't even lock yourself out of being kicked off. Patches is forgiving, and doesn't obey the laws of quest progression.
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is there any reason to not use insight-gaining items? haven't noticed any way to lose insight besides buying pointless shit
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>>148302245
Thank goodness
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>>148302197
Sounds good, thanks anon
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>>148302453
your frenzy resistance drops as you gain insight.
save your insight gaining items for the eventual blood chunks and rocks you can purchase.
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>>148303282
news to me
besides the nightmare are there any other notable things that cause frenzy?

also had something odd happen at one point with frenzy, i was fighting the worms that burst out of the wolf in the nightmare and i got hit as the frenzy bar filled, yet nothing happened and i just took the damage from the lunge. is it consistently doable to cancel frenzy death by getting hit?
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okay, now what?
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>>148304029
these big brained things called winter lanterns.
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Am I Korean yet, /bbg/?
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>>148305095
Almost, keep going anon you can do it.

Only 6 million Shotgun Watchers left to kill.
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Anyone wanna help me fight Lower Pthumeru Descendant? I'm probably overleveled for the guy, but my parrying is absolute trash and Kirk/AmyArm feel a bit slow. Pass is 'bbg', ringing at the fog.
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>>148305421
give me a moment
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>>148305421
I'll help
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>>148305095
>25 endurance
Might as well kill yourself
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>>148305586
>>148305698
I'll wait for the two of you.
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>>148305421
Uh oh, we're already using bbg as a password for Prhumruian Elder in FRC Ihyll. Could cause trouble with SRRC.

You're welcome to join that as well though.
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>>148305917
I admit it's not entirely efficient, but I've been thinking about it and the only thing I would do differently is go 25 SKL with physical gems because I'm really enjoying the weapon, but I'd like to have some utility out of the untricked form when I want to use my gun.

What would you do?
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>>148305946
silence and rering your beckoning bell every minute or so to expedite summoning
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>>148306064
>>148306121

Ah, well, I've got one guy. Gonna go start it, then!
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>>148306094
Not waste 15 points of levels on endurance, if anything I'd just stay at level 95
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>>148306285
Let's say I want to stay at 110. What then?
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>>148306503
65 vit, 28 str for church cannon/gatling gun/ 20 arc for tools
literally anything else
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I've been playing for a few days and barely managed to kill Bloodstarved Beast somehow.

Why do bosses in this game have so much HP? Jesus that's the only reason I'm having trouble. I used a cookie cutter bloodtinge build aiming for 50 vig and 50 bloodtinge.

Is this awful damage specific to my build since I don't get any decent weapons until later, or does a strength build do like 70 damage to Vicar Ameilia too?
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>>148200010
Gotta admit that's cool. Who is this guy?

How do you take pictures like this? Any tips would be appreciated.
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>>148306787
Learn how to cripple.

If you keep attacking her limbs they eventually break, causing her to reel in pain and that limb will take 1.5x damage until she heals it (a reddish glow on the limb followed by a roar standing up). Also her head takes extra damage, and you can even trigger a visceral.

What weapon were you using? She's resistant to Blunt, weak to fire and takes 20% bonus damage from serrated weapons. A +5 or +6 is also recommended by then, assuming you did optional stuff.
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>>148307061
>her
yeah okay.
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>>148307061
Using threaded cane in whip mode.

Should I just kite and shoot her for an hour like I did with BS beast?
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>>148307219
> Vicar Amelia
> Amelia
> Litteraally a woman who turns into a beast
> somehow her femininity is in doubt

Yeah. Ok
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>>148302197
>>148302758
My only problem with the beast embrace model is that fucking potato face, if they did something like his ribcage and made his face skull-like like pic related but beastial I think it would have been better
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>>148307421
No, be aggressive and fuck up her legs. Standing back she'll heal herself and you'll just run out of resources.

Cane-whip is serrated which is good (cane mode is not), what upgrade level is it? Also Firepaper helps a lot.
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>>148307480
stop imposing genders
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>>148307629
+3. Highest I can get. There's no twin blood I can find
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>>148307871
Go left before Amelia's boss room.

You killed BSB right? Bagmen should now be in your game, try fighting one. You'll get twin shards one way or another....
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>invade a guy in nightmare frontier
>he's hitting for a grand total of 50 damage with the transformed cane

Holy fuck bbg, how is this possible
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Anyone up for some forbidden woods? Ringing at lantern.

Lvl 48
Pw: bbg
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>>148308287
Challenge run character maybe.
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>>148308712
gimmie a sec
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>>148308712
On my way
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is it even worth it to take on loran darkbeast for the bolt abyssals?
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>>148308712
what system?
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>>148310247
Nah. Go for the Abhorrent Beast. It's easier and, iirc, gets you better shit because of the double flat bolt secondary.
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>>148310247
You want to fight Abhorrent Beast for the best bolt abyssals.

If you want to fight Loran Darkbeast though, I'd be happy to help. I love that fight.
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Thanks guys. Ringing at burgerville as well if you're interested.
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>>148310523
sure
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>>148310407
>>148310461
ahh ok thank you. i'll just go farm abhorrent beast since i don't usually have trouble with him.
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Will be ringing again in a minute at yahargul.
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o-okay
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>>148311191
Ringing right now.
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>>148311304
The same thing happened to me
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>>148311191
I'm out, not up to there yet.
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>>148311304
Goddamn Albatross, you're making your rounds.
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I'm waiting at the lamp for you Amelia.
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So pretty.
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Ringing at the first lamp in mensis is now.
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>>148312815
I died. Ringing again.
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>tfw darkbeast paarl got stuck between a tree and a buttress
>im bloodtinge so i just shot it to death

heh, nothin personnel.. kid

anymore easy bosses like this? I hope so because this shit is way harder than das desu
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>>148313316
Sorry man. Ringing at the base lantern.
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>>148306929
…baboon?
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>>148314015
Ringing at the loft now
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>>148314015
Sorry
I got too careless
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>>148313701
some people consider one of the DLC bosses pretty easy.
witches of hemwick is easy in some scenarios characters
(although personally i always have a lot of difficulty on minion bosses and have a super easy time on some of the bosses some others consider super hard)
boss at the end of yahar'gul is pretty easy
other then that, nope, all the bosses are hard as fuck, have fun
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>>148311304
Is this a bug?
Or if you summon two confederates does it just automatically summon two shadows of yharnam to make the fight harder? If so that's pretty cool, as it's also lore correct since the Queen is closeby
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>>148314801
Glitch that occasionally happens. Whenever it happens there seems to always be three people running through Burgertown.
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>>148314570
Try jumping from the lift in your world. I'm ringing there.
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>>148315248
Same thing.
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If you can give me 10 minutes or so we can do CainHurst if you want.
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I defeated the Darkbeast Paarl on my first try. What a fun fight; though the camera was a mess through the whole fight. When he got that electricity buff going I was having such a blast. Is blood level 41 too much for this fight? He staggered way too easily.

>tfw you gotta go to work in 10 minutes and won't be able to play for a whole week

Suffering.
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>>148316125
Yeah, OK
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>>148316226
Paarl is an interesting fight in that he's really hard if you go in at the right level, but he crumples if you're even a little too strong. Considering you get access to him after Bloodstarved Beast, I think he might be intended for level 25-30 or so.

There's a stronger version of him in the chalice dungeons.
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>>148316125
Actually never mind, that's it for me.
I had fun but I have to go
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>>148316261
Got it. Ringing at the first lantern now.
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>>148316520
Sorry. Didnt see your message. Thanks for the help.
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Should I send the suspecious beggar to the Iosefka clinic or would he kill her?

Also, if I want the umbilical cord should I refrain from going to the clinic (back entrance) until I kill ROM?
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>>148316881
You should send the fucker there.
Also you can go there whenever as long as you don't go and piss off iosefka.
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>>148317005

>Also you can go there whenever as long as you don't go and piss off iosefka.

How don't you piss her off? She is immediately aggro'd when you go inside is she not?
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>>148317067
Only when you go into her room in the back, the one past the stairs. You can enter the complex and kill the fake iosefka/NPCs you sent there, get the cainhurst summons etc.
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>>148317174

Cool, also, isn't the AYY LMAOska the real iosfka? She has her blood vial after all
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>>148317238
Yeah, you're right, I got it confused.
Either way, as long as you just leave when she yells at you, you can still get the cord.
Also, if you open the front door but don't kill the ayy, when you come back it will be locked again but you won't be able to talk through the door either.
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>>148317598

>Either way, as long as you just leave when she yells at you, you can still get the cord.

Cool man cheers, also, what's the deal with the blood that the whore/nun/iosefka gives you? Should you consume them for any additional dialogue or does it not really matter?
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>>148317808
I believe for the whore after the third time you ask for her blood she dies, thus you miss out on an umbilical cord. The blood from Josefka and her is basically a stronger blood vial which keeps healing for a short amount of time. I would save them for the chalice dungeons, you're gonna need them
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Make a new thread before Lucy does.
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>>148318234
Dude, I wasn't even in the thread before you spoke my name.
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>>148318234

k
>>148318756
>>148318756
>>148318756
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>>148319104
I just got done making the new one and you went and posted this.

Now I feel like a chump.
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So how the fuck do people make new characters with decent gems relatively quickly?

Way too much of a hassle to bring a build up to the meta when you consider the chalices and gems. I wanna die
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>>148320023
DLC gems
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>>148320058
lucifer-sama at it again
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>>148320141
what does this meme mean?
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>>148320175
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>>148320265
Like I give a fuck. Maybe if you had used Pepsi, the superior brand of cola, I might have cared.
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>>148320342
Them there's fighting words
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>>148307421
>kiting BSB

Why do newbs always struggle so much with bsb?
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>>148320513
Because DaS teaches you to back-pedal, and BSB specifically punishes it
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