/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist, and Payday 2 General

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first for no dum

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SNEK
HEISTER
WHEN

third for gay scalies

>>148175316
This shit you keep spamming gives me flashbacks to the early Megatokyo days. Stop it. I don't want to relive those days.

5th for the Eagle Heavy Rifle

New female heister when? I want my all female Payday gang now.

>Playing with friend
>"Oh hey, I'm missing these achievements"
>The heist is either Alesso or Goat Simulator
Nope

>>148176001
What's wrong with Alesso? It's not like any of the achievements require putting up with the horrible stealth.

>>148175775
Just have the 4th player be Sokol, it'll practically be the same.

>>148176001
The worst part about Alesso is you can't kill Alesso

Goat Day 2 was actually alright, the porous structure and objective reminds me of how much of a meat grinder Go Bank is.

>>148176298
At least one does: no kills.

>>148176298
Alesso is just fucking annoying. With having to play with the goddamn buttons, putting the C4 slowly because lol forklift, then having only two cutters and after all that bullshit you have to move the bags from lowest floor to the highest while shitload of cops want you dead and moving the bags with just two people is truly a culinary experience.

>>148176439
Goat Day 1 has same problem as Golden Grin to me, it lags and stutters like hell, plus the first day isn't helped by the fact Vlad is memeing around and makes the heist overall not enjoyable.

>>148176439
That's because Goat Sim Day 2 is basically GO Bank 2.0.

They even took the GO Bank pilot and made him the pilot for Goat Sim Day 2 and then put in a completely new guy for GO Bank. For why, I have no fucking clue.

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>>148175517
that was partially me
and no

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>>148176567
Secret to doing Sound of Silence is doing it loud with armour or dodge. Did it with dodge when it first came out, now franarchist.

>>148176609
Yeah you have a point about the forklifts. They are easily the most infuriating part of the heist because of the driving mechanics and the fact that it is impossible to reach anything without the forklift.

Moving the cash isn't that bad though, just have to not use the lobby and use a side stairwell. A lot of people just go through the lobby by default because employee sections are confusing.

Fifthteenth for workshop is gonna be shit if it's only voting for skins

>>148176615
Nah the spawns are way different from Go Bank, and there is more cover for both cops and you. You don't have to fiddle with a drill or saw either, and it has a built in escape sequence that isn't shit. And if there are bags outside of the cage you can't just carry them on your back in the sewer. Also has a unique environment.

Honestly if there was an option to do Day 2 separately I would do it more often than Go Bank.

>Canadian Heister played by Dave Thomas in full Doug Mckenzie mode when
"I'd be real grateful if you'd stay still and not move, eh?"
"Oh it's a cloaker over there, eh"
"Stand up and stop bleeding. It's robbery, not hockey"

>>148177165
Goddamn it I posted at the last moment

>>148177254
Even better: he's Québécois

>>148175316
Arent you that guy who pays other people to draw snake girls for you

>>148178535
no, all the pics sofar are 5+ years old from a DA I found
the artist now works for a company making fur physics plugins for UE4

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>Also those "graphic designers" dont know how to use the templates with gimp
>People can't understand simple manual instructions
>Workshop already filled with shit
good start guys

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DON

>>148180757
AC

>>148181993
DUM

what's the current meme build? Been away for months

>>148182845
Frenzy + ICTV + Anarchist with the rest of the points going into whatever the fuck you want.

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Anyone know any good heist books? Already done Hot Rock, Great Train Robbery, Asphalt Jungle, and The Killing.

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Question about shotguns.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I remembered reading that accuracy on shotguns now increases the chance for one of the pellets to hit dead center as opposed to tightening the spread. Is that right? Or does it still just tighten the spread only?

>>148184263
I ain't aware of no such thing.
However there's currently a bug that when you aim down the sights with shotguns all your pellets hit dead center, so the spread only applies to hip fire. Who knows when will they fix it.

>>148184521
Why would they do that
Now you can hit the same enemy with all the pellets :^)

>>148184946
Yeah you can actually easily one shot dozers since it gives like a gajillion damage from all the pellets, and when you get the AP slugs the pellets pierce through multiple enemies in a row since they all travel the same direction
aiming with HE is basically like equipping a rocket launcher

>>148185184
Read >>148165421

HE and Slugs both use only a single pellet.

>>148182845
>>148182916
Anarch + Frenzy ICTV is broken as fuck. Overshill don't really test their shit it seems.

I wonder if any of their devs really understand how the meta works.

>>148185184
>Yeah you can actually easily one shot dozers since it gives like a gajillion damage from all the pellets
You must be new here.

>>148185857
>I wonder if any of their devs really understand how the meta works.
They play exclusively on OVK. They don't.

>>148185996
The skill tree really gives it away. If they really knew their game, we would have moba-like roles right now and the gameplay would be way more strategic. Sad really.

>>148185730
>>148185996
Aw come on man I thought it was obvious enough I was just bullshitting
Poe's law I guess

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>>148179105
Doesn't help that 5 out of 9 submissions are by that one furry kid, and 4 of them are "${WEAPON} Poly Hunter" skins, whatever the fuck that means.

I'm surprised we haven't seen any anime shit yet.

>>148188038
There are like grand total of 2 skins in the game that don't look like CSGO-tier dildoshit as of now.

>>148185857
Part of what breaks Anarchist + ICTV, even without Frenzy, is that the first level Iron Man skill (+30% armor) applies to the armor Anarchist gives you.

ICTV has a default of 170 armor + 51 armor from Ironman basic. Anarchist adds another 138, but as the basic also applies to the 138, another 41.4 is given. Leading to 400.4 armor.

The only reason this happens with Anarchist is that the armor it gives you isn't percentage based like most other skill / perk bonuses.

Armorer on the other hand functions as such, 170*(1+0.3+0.45) = 297.5
Add the 102.9 armor bonus, 7.5 armor/sec constant regen, +30 armor on doing any damage every 1.5s, and the same 2s invuln on armor break with 15s cooldown, and Anarchist is obviously a better Armorer in every way except HP.

Also funnily enough the HP loss on can be mitigated nicely with Partners in Crime, with a single Joker you get 230 * (0.5 + 0.3) = 184 HP, which also gives you another 82.8 armor, and another 24.84 armor from Iron Man basic, ie 508.04 armor and 184 HP.

Add Frenzy on that and you've got effective 1270.1 armor and 138 HP. Even without Joker it's 1001 armor and 86.25 HP.

Black Dozers do 240 point blank. Games broke as fug m8

>>148188568
Old Muscle only gave you 437 HP with 221 Armor with ICTV btw, and the HP regenned like ass. Frenzy also gives +40% damage boost right out the gate.

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>>148188231
That's how it's going to be from now on it seems.

From what I gathered from skimming the manual, each part has a preset material type that you can't change so all you can do is recolour it.

And then for "customisation", you can slap on a square texture that will be repeatedly tiled over specific parts of the gun, and then you can add a "sticker" or two as a logo or decal or something.

Like look at this KSP Skulldozer skin submission. There's the drab solid materials over individual parts, and then the main body has the Minecraft-style digital camo texture wrapped over it, and then the Skulldozer face as a sticker logo on the front of the...mag? Drum? Cartridge?

Anyway, they're all going to look like boring shit until OVK adds more features to the skinning system that people can dick with. I think a MS Paint shitter like me might have a chance if I follow their guidelines and use pre-made official assets that don't automatically look like shit.

>>148188038
>>148188957
Also I wish these shitters would stop posting preview screenshots in the dark as fuck blue lighting. Does the beta not let them carry them into the game or something? God.

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Been playing around with a build that many on /pdg/ has tinkered with in similar ways and I'm down to choosing between 2 iterations.

LBV Crook with Frenzy using Silenced Raven and HE Judge.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mf:eacDEFgIJkLr:tl:gghijKLnoPQr:fMOPr:ibcda:::

vs.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mf:ecDFgIJkLnpr:gghijKLnOPQr:fMOPr:ibcda:::

One spec has Overkill, the other let's me bring 2 ammo bags.

Not sure what's better in the long run, potentially (as far as I can tell) 1 shotting tazers/cloakers more often as opposed to 2, or bringing more ammo for everyone. I'm also taking into account those games where there's some fucker taking all my pickups in which case I'll be more reliant on my ammo bags.

>>148189197
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/eacDEfgIJLNPr:ggiJKLnPr:fMOQr:ibcdea:::

What heists have the best payout to time needed ratio? I'm looking at the goat simulator, but that one can be annoying with people trying to get the dolphin mask

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>>148188038
>that one furry kid
clarify

>>148190502
Aftershock DW

Overdrill is also good if you got two dodge guys who can do the stealth objectives really quickly and you go loud after the regular vault is open. Then you can just read a book while the AI spawns guys in the wrong area who trickle one by one to where you're camped at. It's not really playing at that point though.

>tfw playing with DMCWO

fuck being superman, I have the power of /k/ in my hands

Also holy shit the config for it is absolutely fucking filled to the brim with dank /k/ and /pdg/ mee-mees.

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If anyone knows where/what the sokol lines are called in overkill's mess of a file system, I'd be grateful.

I'd much rather not listen to hundreds of voice clips trying to find his.
What's even more worrying is that I'm 1/3rd of the way through and haven't heard any dlc character lines yet. They are in regular_vox right?

Pic unrelated

I legitimately enjoy Goat Simulator heists, it's laggy but the first day is competent, and the second's driving sequence is the best/only good one in the game.

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>>148188957
Someone who knows what he's doing should make unnamed-pink-haired-loli-mascot themed skins.
Or Panda from Body Bags.

shit, just downloaded a retexture, bodhis sound, hollywood shootout, and some other mods and the game feels so different now.

>>148189197
You can easily get both 2 ammo bags and overkill without really touching much. Overkill is definitely more worth it than a 15% dmg increase on a silencer. Professional is kinda pointless.
Just slightly touched the build.
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mf:eacDEfgIJLNpr:tl:gghijKLnoPr:fMOPr:ibcdea:::

Ok, I've had it, installing NGBTO. This game is too full of shitters.

>>148194957
what is NGBTO

>>148194992
Newbies go back to overkill

Lets you autokick newbies below a certain playtime or skillset,

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>get the game with three other friends as a sale shitter
>start by doing mind numbing loud shit like white xmax and the like
>want to do stelf
>solo a lot of contracts like art gallery, jewelry store, shadow raid, murky water, car shop
>tell friends we should do those
>they fail and fail, even when I give them simple tasks like casing the place and watching cameras
>tell them they should familiarize themselves with the maps and such. That way we don't lose two fucking hours doing a single heist and failing miserably in normal difficulty
>they say they want to fail togheter and will rather waste time as team than soloing shit and getting prepared for when we play as a team
>we can't even do car shop

Am I a sperg shitter or are they just dumb as fuck?

>>148194903
What kind of accuracy should I be going for on my silenced shotguns? Since I use Flechettes to be able to hit snipers, I would assumed a little more accuracy would've been preferable.

>>148195138
that's an unnecessarily long abbreviation for something that can be summarized as "NBG", or "Newbies BeGone"

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>>148195603
>Failing jewelry store as a team
You're not mistaken, you're friends are fucking stupid. Show your intellectually dilapidated friends some compassion by playing the game with other people, And this time, stop fishing in the gutter.

>>148196026
Hey, tell that to the modders. I wasn't asking for "Sperghud initialized" every fucking time I start a mission.

Many modders just think way too highly of themselves.

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>>148195603
>normal difficulty
>failing on normal difficulty

>>148195890
What I heard the sweet spot is around 40. But you can reliably hit snipers with the HE Judge, and every shotgun has pinpoint accuracy when aiming so this is only a matter of hipfire anyway.

>>148192816
My brother african of exceptional taste.

>>148195603
What's your steam

>>148191637
Did you try looking for the Google Doc with all the filenames and labels?

>>148195603
>they say they want to fail togheter and will rather waste time as team than soloing shit
This is the #1 problem I have with my real-life friends.

They will absolutely refuse to play a game that we play together if I'm not there. Not because of some "Don't overlevel each other" pact that you might have in a MMO but because they just don't want to play solo and try shit out on their own pace. I always have to be there to hold their hand and/or curate the fucking game for them. It is infuriating as fuck. They don't even look up guides or anything. Just complete self-removal from the game when I'm not there for them.

I don't play games with my real-life friends anymore. We'd do things like meet up at a Chipotle, gossip about other games and internet drama or people we know, then go home and don't talk to each other until next weekend. It's a sad life.

>>148190502
Cash? Aftershock DW, Rats Pro DW, Mallcrasher.

Exp? Rats Pro DW

>>148198332
Well, I looked around. The only gogole doc I could find was one containing sound codes for pocohud or some other soundboard spam program.
Not usefull at all to me because I need the location of the files in the payday 2 folder itself.

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>>148190824
I dunno, maybe I'm talking about the one kid on the Payday 2 Workshop with 5 submissions out of the existing 9-10.

>>148199562
Yeah I don't know then, sucks.

I tried looking a bit but there are a bunch of references to a list on the lastbullet wiki that was deleted for some reason. Don't know what happened to it but I guess you'll have to start from scratch. Which really sucks.

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>Rats with 2 other friends, one of them is hosting
>first random joins, places 8 trip mines, all of them set to sensor mode
>kicked
>second random joins, makes it his job to type what to do in chat while doing nothing himself
>captain arrives and friend starts hitting him with explosives
>him: "we need kill captain"
>kicked
>third random joins, seems mildly competent, converting enemies and such
>4 bags in he purposefully blows up the lab
>friend: "dude what the fuck"
>him: "stop shooting my converted"
>he leaves
>our fucking faces when

>>148200667
Apparently the lastbulet page got lost. Data corrupted or something like that. There's a spreadsheet containing many of the lines it lost but I couldn't find any of Sokol's.

None of this would be a problem if overkill can manage their files properly.
Thanks overkill.

>>148202715
I guess now we know why they can't fix the ONE bug on the newer heisters and opted to just delete files instead.

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>>148194957
>kicking manually shitters is too hard

top kek

>>148188957
>and then the Skulldozer face as a sticker logo on the front of the...mag? Drum? Cartridge?
Bump. Where are the /k/bros?

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>HOW DO YOU WANT YOUR GRAPHICS SENPAI?

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP

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>>148204618
Who /videomemorycorruption/ here?

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>how to tell you should restart the game

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>doing Melting Point DW with Molos, RPG, and Mosin w/ long barrel, irons, and bayonet
>get most kills and highest accuracy
>no one goes down

>>148202079
shouldnt have been killing his converted lad. thats why i dont use that skill, punks like you ruining it. fuck your lab. bitch.

>>148202079
If I ever got an auto-kick mod. It'd be the mod that'd kick someone for putting in the wrong ingredient.

Not like, when they're starting or halfway through the interaction. Right at the end, to make sure they fucked up. Maybe insert it into the code where the kick is called before the explosion function. That would be so fucking rad. Not only does it stop pubs and assholes from blowing up the lab, you can just collect a huge stack of meth ingredients for yourself to cook with.

Though I guess it depends on how the check is done. e.g. if they're like lasers where they're done client-side and all the host receives is a "pub fucked up, blow the lab" signal.

>>148208134
>guy fucks up(is preinfamy)
>lol calm down nerd I'm new to this game you can't treat me like this how was I supposed to know
I can understand being new, but fuck these guys are rude, be it in big bank's server or hotline miami's cooking time, whatever can be fucked up, will be fucked up

>>148206778
Why the fuck does it matter one or two die? They're meant to die. Just get another one.

>Punch a cop
>Press F, 99.9999999% dom chance
>Get a free 1100 HP bot
>He eventually dies
>Repeat

>>148209416
they lowered the convert chance form the beta, so it's not as easy anymore.

>>148210460
it's still pretty easy

>>148210460
When they fucked up the Spotter LOD, game prioritises doms over Special highlighting now when you press F. It's really easy to just punch a cop and get a dom, or hit a mob with a weak HE round and get at least one dom.

sort of wish they included a semi-auto rifle like the SKS or M1 Carbine in the Gage Historical pack

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>>148076347
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Am The One Who Knocks (halloween_1)
- Target Practice: Pistol (pistol_100_kills)

And this week's new Weekly Side Jobs is:
- Doctor Miserable (gage2_1)
Complete it for your chance at an Infamous quality Cthulhu mask!

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

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Why is it so hard for people to take a proper screenshot?

Why?

>>148211458
holy shit

>>148211540
Please upvote and like my Workshop submission ;)

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Post yfw they cancel The Walking Dead game/postpone it to 2018

>>148212354
Who cares about a game we know nothing about and have not seen anything except a few screenshots

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>>148210710
This. Just scream at their butts.

>>148211306
>Not a Gast principle LMG
It's like you hate fun and firerates of 2000 RPM

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I'm bored and want to make some skins but they're all either going to be shit or not going to be accepted for an official safe so I'm just going to make whatever I want.

Anybody want to dump their /pdg/-tan collections? If I ever figure out how to work this thing and I see an image that looks good, I can try to make /pdg/-tan themed skins or something.

Please dump your /pdg/-tan collections anyway, I don't have one.

>>148211306
>Gage Historical pack

>Platypus 70 has exact same stats as Nagant, but +5 more ammo
>Broomstick has awful stats and even worse reload
>Melee weapons are shit and nothing special
>Masks suck ass
At least Buzzsaw + Aced Swan Song is fun, I guess.

>>148214858
>Platypus 70 has exact same stats as Nagant, but +5 more ammo
This is how you tell the game isn't p2w ;)

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>>148214840
put cute sneks instead

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Finally, a fucking submission without the default blue lighting.

>>148217074
>looks shit
Wow.

>>148217074
if this end up as a purple skin, i swear i'll send gay sokol pictures to the overkill's art team

>>148211323
>spend a whole heist going out of my way to kill a lot of cops with akimbo deagles while testing akimbo builds because I never use akimbos
>"Weird, I swear I shot more than a hundred cops by now."
>check side job screen to see how many I got so far
>0 / 100
JUST

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This guy just slapped on the tutorial pattern and called it a day.

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>Opt into skin beta
>13.3 gbs
JUST

>>148221961
It's only 850 MB.

Somebody forgot to uninstall their mods.

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Throwing axes feel like they're almost tolerable as a throwable now but they're just not the same as javelins. They don't feel like I'm throwing 1100 axes.

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And their pixel perfect hitbox is so infuriating with my bad aim sometimes. Javelins have an excuse. They're basically just slightly thicker arrows and you could live with that. The axes have no such excuse. They're goddamn axes, not playing cards. This shit (and javelins) should be pinning ragdolls to the wall with their heft and momentum.

They're probably a straight upgrade to javelins for people who are better shots though since there's basically no wind-up time window that the cops could use to dodge.

>>148224509
>They don't feel like I'm throwing 1100 damage projectile axes
Fixed.

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>>148224861
>not using molotovs
You should burn for this heresy.

>>148226267
Can't pick up molotovs from the ground though after throwing them. Need Fully Loaded Aced and some RNG.

>>148226557
>needing an endless supply of throwables
What are you? Some kind of shitter?

>>148227246
More throwables = more fun

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>level 6 joining my overkill lobby
>gets downed 3 times immediately
What's the thought process of these people?

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Friendly reminder there's an opportunity to get yourself added to an upcoming DLC.

>>148228874
>wanting to be associated with this shitshow of a game

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>Cant preview skins ingame
They gonna add feature r-right?

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>>148197556
http://steamcommunity.com/id/
boynextdoor137

don't laugh

>>148198879
The only stuff I can play with them is mind numbing. I've played several games with them and this is the first that requires a small amount of preparation. Granted, I enjoyed playing Killing floor with them because the game is fun. We enjoy having bbq's from time to time but I can't keep playing vidya with them. The only thing they'll play is street fighter and I'm bad at it

>>148229729
Skin Unlocker.

Unless you meant community workshop skins. Then I have no clue.

>>148228874
someone impersonate a redditor using a nasally voice and complain about safes and skins

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>>148229790
>65 hours
>thinks his opinion matters

>>148230582
Don't really see what that has to do with the fact that he wants his friends to familiarise themselves with maps to waste less time when they're playing together.

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>>148229790
>65 hrs on record
>this is /pdg/

>>148229790
play with /pdg/ instead

>>148228874
wait i don't get it
do i have to do both voices?
like do i have to be both the pranker and the prankee.
It will just be too easy to hear its the same person doing both voices isnt it?

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>>148230582
>>148231015
I clearly stated that I was rather new since I am a sale shitter. Perhaps if you tried to read you'd know this. Neither I was stating an opinion over the game. I was saying that I want my friends to not be dumb.

>>148231559
It's to an answering machine. So just the prankster's bit. Clearly it's going to be like GO Bank's phone calls where you sit there and listen to random phone calls playing.

>>148231567
Don't reply to anime.

>>148231708
So i just do a one-liner like its the start of a prank and thats it?
Sounds easy, maybe ill try it

>>148228874
>inv4 someone copies deez nuts word for word and wins

>>148232196
I dunno about start of a prank. But if it's a full one, it should be fine as long as it fits in under 15 seconds.

One upside of this workshop thing is that I can preemptively write off the next safe without even seeing whats in it, because the offerings so far are on the same level as the worst of the Sydney and COP skins.

>>148232312
Im confused again
how much do i have to record?
like just a one-liner or should i record a conversation?

>>148233185
One fucking prank call.

Only limitation is that it's to an answering machine, 2 to 15 seconds in length.

No mention of a word or line limit but you can only squeeze so much into 2 to 15 seconds.

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>>148228874
> They pick the call with the most memes and lowest effort
>Goof luck

>>148208693
>I'm new to this game you can't treat me like this how was I supposed to know
BAIN EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE TELLS YOU NOT TO PUT THE WRONG INGREDIENT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>148228874
>tfw time limit is too short to pretend to be a nigerian prince

>>148236136
>Hello yes, this is caustic soda... WAIT I mean this is muriatic acid! Is your refrigerator running?

>>148236136
>most memes
>lowest effort
Cramming memes into your work takes a lot of effort, I'll have you know.

Play a heist. Game crashes. Restart a heist. Game crashes. Buy a heist. Game crashes.

What a great game!

>>148239280
Must be your mods doing it, payday has been bug free since overkill bought the rights from 505 and fixed everything ;^)

>>148239280
Buy more dlcs, bad goy.

So for some reason I decided to do a jewstore DW and there are no guards or cameras in the store, is that normal or what the fuck happened there?
No mods btw

>>148239280
Does it happen first thing after you launch?

Try loading the Safehouse first then going to crime.net. If it still crashes, I got nothing.

>>148240081
Just inside the store or on the whole map?

Long Guide says jew store has no cams. I swear it did but oh well.

Also says that there's a non-zero chance that guards might not spawn inside the store but alley guards are guaranteed.

>>148240921
Just inside. I was sure jew store had cams as well but that's probably because of Ukrainian Job, it's the same map but with cams.
The alley guards were there but then again the alley is fenced off, and with no camera or a guard inside you can just waltz right in and do whatever

>>148228589
to quote sydney
"toime to show them thoy made the roight choice

>>148241542
i mean thaiee*

>Firestarter DW pub lobby
>carry these shitters each day
>get to the last day
>host: "we're stelfing this"
>me: okay, just let me get my suit on
>I get kicked
I FUCKING HATE PUBSHITTERS SO MUCH REEeeeeEEEE

>>148242891
>stelf

every single time

>>148242891
We know that feel.

Hey /pdg/, completely new to the general so I'm sorry if I'm missing anything obvious. Checked OP but couldn't find an answer. Do the Biker Safe skins have a stat boost just like the other ones did? If so, where can I find a list of them? Google came up blank as well.

>>148244520
>Do the Biker Safe skins have a stat boost just like the other ones did?
Yes. 10% chance for any unboxed skin to have a stat boost, just like every safe before it.

>If so, where can I find a list of them?
Each skin can only have one kind of stat boost so just go through the list or something if you can't find a list. Reddit used to have an ongoing list, don't know if it's still being updated.

Just use pd2stash, it has a bunch of links for your convenience.

>>148244520
As it turns out I'm a moron. Found it. N-no bully pls

Guys, you need to get that safe open

>>148246831
GUYS
THE THERMAL *****
GO GET IT

I'm a shitter and I want to get into DW. Where do I start?

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>>148249953
you start with gitgud

why do i keep getting more zipties when going loud? i thought the only way to get more was that one mastermind perk, is there some gameplay element to picking them up i've missed?

>>148249953
wondering this as well, me and my friends get fucked on dw when going loud. stealth is fine though

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>>148250353
Dropped ammo packs can provide ties.

>>148249953
Start by not joining DW with an unfinished perk deck. This summer sale has made hosting quite problematic with all these 20hr players with a 4/9 Crew Chief deck thinking they can DW or expect to be carried.

If you have that covered then do something loud. Go Gambler or Muscle + ICTV + M308 would be my suggestion. You can meta the fuck out of the M308 to where it's ~215 dmg w/ suppressors (Silent Killer) and a 25rd magazine with surefire. One hits all commons in the head and has one of the best ammo pickup rates especially compared to DMR-kit Car4/AMR16/AK stuff.

Mastermind: Inspired Aced.
Enforcer: ICTV and Fully Loaded Aced.
Technician: Steady grip aced,, surefire basic
Ghost: Specialized Killing aced

You're good to go. M308, jeager body, bigger better suppressor, and flashlight/laser. Also put a skill pt in duck and cover so you run faster in the ICTV.

If you're lvl 100 you could get other things like drill skills or shockproof or w/e.

>>148251215
What secondary would you recommend for this build?

>>148250939
for what purpose

>>148252797
I'll imagine it's so you always have a chance of grabbing a new hostage, meaning you always have a chance to get your teammates back should they go into custody, even if the cops freed all your hostages and you're out of ties. It makes sense

>>148253114
It's not like civs stick around while we're doing our reverse waco though

>>148252687
Depends on the mission. I might do a saw as my secondary to get the objectives done faster. That's especially useful in Firestarter on all three days. Start with that, Loud DW on Firestarter. You can grab all rifles in just a few minutes provided your team aren't just kill whoring and helping to move bags.

I'll bring an RPG if I'm certain my 3 shitty teammates can't kill Winters which happens even more these days. I host public matches all the time and hardly anyone can handle a never-ending wave let alone the buffs all Gensec get when Winters is still active. Like, Big Bank where you're stuck in the vault and can't push forward because 1 or 2 teammates are downed and you can't move 'cause the wave just keeps coming. Yeah, on heists like that killing Winters is mandatory. So, if RPG isn't an option bring C4 charges and lay 'em where he camps at the front right as he comes in.

For actual guns I think all pistols are shit except for the Bronco. Krinkov is another meta gun so go with that one too. If you have some of the DLC grab that 60rd magazine for the Krinkov and you'll hose two bulldozers at close range pretty quickly 'cause it has a high rate of fire. So when I do M308 + Krinkov, I keep that Kinkov loaded just for dozers. Grenade to stun, krinkov right in their faces. You can spec it for 100 stability and since it's my close-range gun no need for accuracy stuff. I'm getting close if I have to, or m308 from bigger distances. In fact I've done entire heists without using a secondary 'cause I love that M308 and it's a good gun. Semi-auto, don't waste its rounds using full auto with it.

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trenchcoat heister when

>>148254115
>>148252797
I ended up going with a silenced Loco with HE rounds for Bulldozers. It sounds retarded to me with a silenced explosive shotgun, but hey - does the 30% bonus damage on silenced weapons perk still work?

guess it's time for another poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/10731273

>>148255916
>Overkill is too easy
>DW tears my ass apart
;_;

>>148249953
See: >>148088425

>>148255916
Mostly play DW, but yeah, every once in a while I join OVK lobbies. Usually testing guns, builds, getting achievements, stuff like that.

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>Soloing Rats DW Pro
>Dumb fucking AI keeps running around outside the house and getting downed
>Get downed in the house
>Enemies aren't coming inside so can't use Messiah
>Rust is too busy licking the paint off the shed
>Jimmy is downed
>Scream at Rust to come fucking help me
>He gets inside the house and then immediately runs out the back door

>>148255916
I play OVK a lot, I can do DW just fine, but OVK's more fun for pickup games and screwing around like retards with my friends.

>>148259658
>not using better bots

>>148254561
I would assume so. Even 00 Buckshot from a Judge is overpowered with the shotgun skills + specialized killing. If I wanted to just mess around I would abuse the hell out of bulletstorm and just lay waste to entire legions of Gensec with that Judge. I especially won't do that because people's first thoughts are OMG HACKER. "You've been kicked." And also I'm eating up my ammo bags and not really being helpful.

>>148256153
The Ovk difficulty is way too forgiving with bad behavior. Also I just don't think people do skill builds as best they could when all they do is loud Ovk. Those hybrid stealth/loud builds are fun but it's pretty situational. I've seen people hop into Rats with such builds and they struggle. Obviously. Like having 2x ECM and lockpicking skills are sure going to help cook meth... running this game with mods showing me where your skill pts are at really explains some things. Why is DW too hard? 1, you need to camp more. 2, you probably aren't building right or building to improve your strengths and style of loud play. 3, bad teammates makes it harder on you because they're not pulling their weight. Some people even stop to type out "there's a dzr over there" instead of just f-keying to highlight. Like wtf? Omg a Skulldozer! No, they're the easy ones. It's the black dzrs that down you quick.

You can seriously hop into an Ovk match and never aim your gun and you'll still do well. Like that KSP Lmg for example. Insane ammo pickup rate so just run around and rambo with it. Lmgs are just bad in most DW situations. I think I'd consider it on Hotline Day 2 though.

>>148254178
>wanting an edgier heister than wick

pls

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>>148262680
>implying

>>148261331
>you need to camp more
That's probably it, but I feel like I'm doing something wrong if, on some heists, I have to just sit tight until the end of an assault.
And even then, we sometimes get swarmed by packs of turbodozers and other specials coming from all directions.

>aren't building right
Got a dedicated DW loud build with Inspire, ICTV, Overkill and some smaller skills. It should work, though I'm sure there's room for improvement.

>bad teammates
Playing with a friend, he's fine. Most of the time.

>The Ovk difficulty is way too forgiving with bad behavior
Yeah, that's why we're trying to get into DW.

Anyone know how going loud scales?`Do the same amounts of cops spawn if you're two or three as if you were four?

>>148265150
Does it scale with how many players are in the game, that is. I just realized how vague this question was

>all those workshop skins

Are we seriously having goonmod veterans shitting up the place or what ? It's really sad when you have to admit the crimefest II skins are better than this.

Why do I never see people using ex president?
I've been using it for a few DW heists and I'm really liking it.

>>148266708
We need someone from /pdg/ who can make good skins and then we all le upboat their skin to get it accepted.

>>148265150
It does scale, but the scaling is "unfair". Check the long guide for details.

>>148265150
There's a reduced spawn rate if you're soloing and not playing with bots. Shoot a bunch of civilians and you'll increase the special spawn rates. Plus you also increase the odds of having to do an escape at the end of the day. As for 2 vs 3 vs 4 players I have no idea what the difference is. Seems the same to me.

>>148263972
>on some heists, I have to just sit tight until the end of an assault
That's exactly what you do and use the spawn fade to your advantage. So think of Rats day 1. You camp in that house until there's handful left. You know when that wave is dying down and when to expect a "breather." You shuffle the meth bags to the van, before the official end of the assault wave. You can increase that fade time by not shooting the leftovers.

On other maps you have to play more aggressively, sure. Some situations call for it.

But DW generally requires more patience. Sometimes you just have to stay put and wait out an entire assault wave. Very true if you're down a man or two. Let the drill beep if you have to. Don't give up your advantage.

>Overkill
If I'm using that, I won't ace it and just run an O/U as my primary and the Judge as my secondary. Use bulletstorm too!

Oh, and don't ace combat medic at the very bottom of the medic tree. It hardly makes a difference in DW compared to the other difficulties. So save those 3 pts for something else.

>that guy who bashes bringing ecms to a hold out type heist
what did he mean by this?

GET THE FUCK UP

>>148270829
Moo!

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>>148266941
P A N D A
A
N
D
A

>>148255916
>all these shitters

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>>148272675
no

>>148272675
She literally doesn't have nipples, shit art

>>148279227
yeah, i hate when artists blatantly ignore the nips

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>>148279227
>>148279846

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>>148281056
fuck off

ON YOUR FEET

botmods saved my life
having three not completely retarded bots you can tell to hold ground and carry bags is better than pubs

>>148261331
>Some people even stop to type out "there's a dzr over there" instead of just f-keying to highlight.
Sadly pressing F at cops doesn't highlight specials anymore if there's even one mook in the mob. Until all the mooks are dead, you will only spam dom shouts while hitting F.

I honestly don't know why OVK changed the shout priority like that.

>>148267249
>Shoot a bunch of civilians and you'll increase the special spawn rates.
Shooting civs does absolutely nothing with the exception of causing more sniper spawns in loud jew stores. That's it.

>>148283476
>carry bags
WAT
AT
T

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>>148281056
W-What the fuck is this
Why am I getting a boner

>>148285343
This should be a feature in every heist.

>>148286846
http://lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=16530
It's not exactly smooth yet but it works

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>>148286847

>>148285343
If you kill the last one then times between assaults are shorter.

Also trade delay

Apparently being able to hop in the back of the van at the end of hoxout 2: electric bogaloo was a bug because it got patched over.
Thanks overkill.

>>148287860
I'll give you those two, you're right about that.

>>148287946
You could hop in the back of the van at HB Day 2? I tried so much to get in but like the limo, it just didn't let me.

>>148287946
>hoxout 2: electric bogaloo
???

>>148210996
>put your hands up!

No, actually please warn the team about the skulldozer behind them.

On a related note, I am really liking HVT.

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>fag with a grenade launcher sucking up every shred of ammo that appears
>every hostage in the bank bar one gets killed by him blasting fucking grenades everywhere

explosives were a mistake.

>>148289023
>PUT YOUR HANDS UP!
>cop puts hands up
>GREAT JOB! WE GOT BODHI OUT OF CUSTODY!
>cop is now an immortal glowing yellow beacon you can't get rid of until the next exchange or you manually release him
>VWEEEEEEEEEEE

>tfw pubs bitch at me for taking the time to remove these immortals

one

>>148291986
ONE!

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someone

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>>148287668
I need more

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>>148295553
BOI HE BOUT TO DO IT

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>>148295983

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>>148296614

>>148296952
kys shill

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>>148297210
what the fuck are you talking about

>>148267331
That emcs can be placed at chokepoints and the feed back activated at the right times I guess

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>>148297932
>recently discovered that ECMs can be used to turn SWAT turrets friendly

>get seen by bikers
>put down ECM
>grab all assets
>BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG
>they set off flashbangs
>shoot them all
>ECM runs out
>still no cops
>quietly drill the safe while running around the map hunting for courier packages and loot
>teammate saws ATMs
Well...okay. I guess Big Oil Day 1 went from "not that hard to stealth" to "stupidly trivial" with the changes. Thanks OVK.

ARMS OUTSTRETCHED

>>148287946
wtf is that can you not speak in reddit terms i dont know what that shit means

>>148302698
You cannot get into the back of the FBI van on Hoxton Breakout Day 2.

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bump

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what are some nice aesthetic loadouts

>AMR-16 and China Puff

>>148305785
Elaborate?

>>148306052
basically, weapons that go nicely together
>AK/AK.762 and HRL-7

>>148305785
Raven slug
chinapuff flames

>>148305785
Car-4 and Loco. Happy together both in meta and ugliness

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finally watched this after ages of meaning to

given how shit point break was I wasn't expecting it to be good but holy fuck this movie was great

wish Jimmy was actually in it more though

>>148305785
AMR-16 and Crosskill Operator with longslide, and jungle ninja silencer.

Play as Dallas for maximum operator.

>>148307008
torrent or did you go to the cinema for it

>>148307320
rented off PSN

>>148307008
LISTEN TO YOUR HEART, HENRY

>>148307008
>EZ
best scene

>>148176298

Can't change or even mute the music

>>148307815
Alesso's song is better than most of the DLC songs, it's got actual progression to it

people go on about payday's soundtrack being good, what songs are actually memorable

the only really good songs are the remakes of PD1 songs

>tfw /kfg/ is dead

>>148175071
so is there any reason why the songs from the biker pack haven't appeared in the soundtrack folder, even though i've gotten the ones from DLC ones before when i don't own the DLCs
it's a shame because they are fucking fantastic

>>148308378

I'/m a /kfg/ refugee too, anon.

PD2 is better anyway, and I have over 200 hours in KF2.

>>148308378
>Overkill devs teased us by sucking tripwire's cock for a few months,
>tripwire devs were seen wearing a wolf shirt,
>expected some kind off collab where you would have to buy the deluxe edition in order t,o get a new heister,perk deck and melee weapon,
>still nothing now

at least we have the foster heister mod

>>148308723
>so is there any reason why the songs from the biker pack haven't appeared in the soundtrack folder
OVK staff take their sweet time adding songs to the Soundtrack DLC. We have to harass them for months about it until they finally add one or two songs.

>Playing Birth of Sky.
>Team decides to split up and is quickly downed.
>Finally get to sewer after everyone is revived.
>First gate is opened thanks to me.
>Other guy with thermal decides to run away back to start of sewers because Shields are scary.
>Everyone wipes except him.
>He thinks he can clear out the sewers' Shields enough to run past everyone else.
>Spends more than 10 minutes trying to do so without a Judge or explosive weapon..

It's still ongoing.

>>148310069

Holy shit he did it.

>>148310245
10 minutes without any doms?

>>148307810
The whole rooftop part was top tier.

>>148310308

Yep.

>>148310362
DW?

>>148310436

Overkill.

>>148310538
>Going down on ovk
I mean other than glitching cloakers or tasers behind terrain I just can't see it

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>>148310538
>wiping on ovk

>>148310923

It can happen if your team decides to split up for no apparent reason.

>just watched Hardcore Henry

damn that was the shit

now THAT'S what Gensec security should be

meat fodder for glorious ballistic and explosive demonstrations

>>148310538
>t. massive shitter

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What's your gunfu, /pdg/?
For me it's Chimano 88. I use it with tactical pistol light for the aesthetic and use a team boost and that's it. I just love how simple it is even if it's pretty much the worst gun in the game.

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>wait an eternity of DW lobby to open up
>join and see this
well fuck me sideways

>>148312171
Hardcore Henry got so much shit by reviewers, was so fun. Hope it does well on blu ray, a sequel would be fun.

Ww2 Jimmy was the best Jimmy by far.

Its a massively missed opportunity that the Jimmy that contracts the Payday heists isn't the nerd jimmy or crippled Jimmy or something, would be fun.

>>148313497
>WeWuzKangs
Nice meme name

>>148313806
thanks

>>148313497
I honestly don't understand why NGBTO bothers displaying time units past hours.

Like, nobody's going to figure out what "1 month and 17 days" means. Who even thinks of PD2 playtime like that other than whoever wrote that? Just fucking write 1,100 hours like a normal fucking person.

>>148313520
I wanted professional Jimmy, and I think most of /pdg/ wanted it too. It's such a waste that he offed himself in the trailer and we only had cokehead Jimmy to deal with.

If he did off himself before the movie started, how was he there at the beginning of the movie to pick up Jimmy? Was it a different Jimmy? It can't be though, I'm almost certain they're the same Jimmy as the one in the trailer.

>>148314572
The movie shows he has a few doubles of clones he likes. The nerd jimmy he has two of.

>>148315618
Oh I don't remember him having doubles, every Jimmy seemed to be gone permanently once they get destroyed. Does explain a lot of things.

>>148314572
I was pretty disappointed when we ended up getting the cocaine loving Jimmy but he ended up being my favourite heister.

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>>148211323
>>148219402
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Target Practice: Assault Rifle (assault_rifle_100_kills)
- Full Measure (halloween_2)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

If you could pick the next heister from any movie/game, who would it be?

>>148317116
mr foster heister when?

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>>148307008
I watched it last night and I noticed this scene where there is a load of game posters. There even a poster for Left 4 dead down the hallway he enters

>>148312901
Daily reminder:
If you use ANYTHING other than the peacemaker you are a sinnner and a shitter

>>148319786
Oh boy I sure do love spending 75% of the time reloading when the Bronco reloads far faster and almost does as much damage and isn't jew DLC.

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I thought I had a good idea of what to do after reading the manual.

I do not.

I have no idea what I'm doing. Please send help.

>>148317116
Ricky from Trailer Park Boys

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So apparently there's an "ammunition" part available for modification with skins amongst the other parts for the Platypus and I presume the other guns too. And it has all the modifications options that the other parts have so you could change the material, draw a pattern on it, and put logos on top like any other part.

I guess this means that we can have custom bullet designs for the 0.2 seconds that we get to see the inside of the mag cartridge. That's pretty neat I guess.

That said, I still have no idea what I'm doing. I expected to be able to see the bright rainbow shit like in the base gradient example in the tutorial with the template files that do have the bright rainbow colour scheme in them but I can't. This is going to take a while to figure out.

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>>148319786
You mean this peacekeeper?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWYjLurySU0

Bane skin when?

>>148326120
I actually, unironically like that gun.

>>148316959
Piss off Jules, you already have reddit to shill your failed features. Nobody wants or need more anonymous masks in this game.

>>148312901
KSP 58, its fire sound, looks and stats just feel so right.

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>>148319209
Jimmy's mask also makes an appearance.

First of all, holy fuck big thanks to the guy who recommended silenced M308 build yesterday. I rip through everything so fast, consistently getting most kills + specials by far. Second, what is a good secondary specifically to deal with Captain Winters?

>>148326920
I love the KSP but I hate how there is no way to compensate for the spray pattern because of how random it is. Irks me to no end. I prefer the Brenner for machine guns.

>>148328764
China Puff. :^)

>>148328764
Boom booms

>>148328764
I feel like this question has come up five times a thread, but here we go again.

HE silenced judge, esp if you're running frenzy
Otherwise the china puff.

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I have no idea what is going on

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Goddamnit.

I spent like half an hour reverse-engineering what the difference between how GIMP is doing shit and how the tutorial says a template file should look like is.

And now I'm 99% certain part of the reason is because the template file OVK released is a modified version of the one they put on the tutorial site. The white background isn't GIMP's doing, it's part of the original file.

Why is this so goddamn hard.

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>>148333635
gimp is shit, just get photoshop
> but am poorfag
cs2 is free on adobe's site or go sailing

>>148334857
>cs2 is free on adobe's site or go sailing
Oh really? Sweet.

>>148334857
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/7585092/Adobe_Photoshop_CS6_13.0.1_Final__Multilanguage_(cracked_dll)_[C

>>148333635
solar you fucking retard dont even try

>>148335703
>pirate bay
FBI are already coming for you, son.

>>148337037
Never had any problems. it's literally just paranoia

>>148314440
Those are skill points, you retard.

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>>148317116
Only correct answer.

Honest question, /pdg/. Do you cheat in any way? If so how and why?

>>148338818
I cheat on your mother because she's a whore

>>148338818
I use bots with preprogrammed waypoint data, rudimentary pathing AI, ability to res me and each other, increased spotter range, infinite ammo, and infinite downs.

They're so much better than pubs.

>>148338945
That's a hell of a cheat.

>>148338945
I don't use bots or pubs, and I'm invulnerable to cloakers.

>>148338818
I'd like to know this too. Do you guys cheat for Infamy?

>>148338818
Started using goonmod during the skill tree beta to test weapons mods and builds easier, and played around with someone that used that weird stealth balance mod that you didn't have to awnswer pagers for unaware guards, cheating infamy when the games give absurd exp is just dumb

>>148338818
Yes, i use new meme build for dw missions

>>148338818
Carry Stacker/spoiler]
I always play solo and moving bags is hell

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>>148317116

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>>148317116

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just started downloading hardcore henry
holy shit i can't believe i waited over 3 months for a torrent to be released
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>148317116
I pick Mr. Foster from Killing Floor for his affinity for both money and shooting stuff, but on two conditions:
>he gets the suit he wore in KF1 back
>the gas mask is part of his model and he wears masks over it

>>148346245
>yfw this happens at /pdg/ picks up the remnants of /kfg/ to match how it has all the pardoposters now

>>148346169
i wanted to see hardcore henry for my cinema, and i was let down, anyways, new heist when?

>>148346245
A crossover heist might be interesting.
>cloning machine at a secret Horzine lab goes haywire and lab is flooded with specimens
>Horzine hires the Payday gang to find and retrieve sensitive data/personnel, then totally destroy the lab in such a way that it completely removes all evidence of the its existence (including, of course, the cloning facilities and whatever zeds haven't been killed by the gang)

What does /pdg/ think of Crew Chief? I'm running it on DW and while it's giving me that warm fuzzy feeling of being credit to team I'm not really sure how much it's really helping.

>>148348036
Gambler might be a better choice, but honestly if you're not super solid on the running and gunning, an objective getter/bag mover who can defend himself, and is helpful on any team.

>>148348381
I actually started the build using gambler, but then I went on Rats and realized the shortcomings.

Also, what does the extra shout distance actually do? It doesn't extend my Inspire range past 7m.

>>148348528
yeah, on rats in particular, if you're contribution to the team is shouting them up from inside and doing all the cooking (which is actually a really useful contribution) Gambler won't do shit

>>148266924
Its decent with LBV and armor skills, however problematic on DW when you get downed, gonna need a few FAKs for it to be very good. Or you'll have to invest into that "getting more hp on revive" skill and hope its enough. It sometimes helps, but often doesnt, especially against hostage rescue who have high rof and good dmg.

>>148348993
Honestly, I'm not good enough to be running around shooting and looting outside of babby heists like Big Bank. I like gambler, but it's a bit beyond me for DW.

>>148266924
I get cloaker'd frequently enough on DW that it would piss me off. Also I'm bad at nursing my armor gate and I can't say I find it fun.

It turns ovk into autopilot, though.