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Biker waifu edition

Previous Normal Heist: >>147417401

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (think Frank found a new maintainer)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>(NEW) Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHEkCM3fTrc
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First for Quality content
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Second for quality content doesn't exist
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Third for legit looking lobbies.
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>>147753317
If that's the case, then how come your post exists, qt?
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Would you a Houston?
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Shitters
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>>147753481
Don't act dumb
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>>147753481
Don't act dumb
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>>147753581
>>147753620
;___;
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This is what I get for res'ing a bot from getting downed.

They just run in and fuck up stealth.
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>>147754504
>bots
>stealth
>bots going down in stealth heists
Explain?
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12th for the key asset on bank heist
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>>147754374
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>>147754504
stealth bots mod when?
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>>147754645
As you can see, Clover fell off the roof and got downed.

Then she ran in and got caught by the guard the host had highlighted.

You can't hear it in the webm but Clover fired first, then the Murky shot back and alerted the map. So it seems bots can shoot people in stealth with unsuppressed weapons without making noise.
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>>147755427
Bots aren't active in stealth at all fix your mods
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>>147755653
maybe a guy who was playing as clover fell and then he quit
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>>147755157
That'd be an interesting project.

Give bots perfect stealthing algorithms for each map, maybe even giving them specific objectives like achievements or doing specific things or doing as many things as they can. Then watch them loot a map without getting caught.

That or make a generic stealthing AI and sic them on any map.
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>>147755750
>stelfing with pubs
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r8 my new mask
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>>147756575
CRT monitor magnetburn/10
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>>147755984
>maybe even giving them specific objectives like achievements
Maybe I'll finally get my Entrapment achievement.
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>>147756815
>he doesn't have 100%
shitter
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>>147756575
>not keeping it kawaii

4/10
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someone link me best dw build
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>>147759424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCD8buf2hG0
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Guys, are you experiencing issues in the game atm?

People in the games I join seem to be stuck.
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>>147760648
>stuck
In shit tier? Yes, I'm running into people with that problem as well. Kinda annoying desu.
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>>147760295
money bundle for melee, bronco and suit
will try
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>>147760830
The game seems to be completely broken. Suddenly there are no enemies, others seem to be stuck. Hosting games doesn't help either.
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>>147761017
Make sure you play a big heist
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this general is still alive ? lmao
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>>147761227
With the skill tree revamp everyones got inspire aced
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GET THE FUCK UP
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>>147662336
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Mellon (voff_4)
- Vlad Is Mad! (vlad_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>147764112
DON'T ACT DUMB!
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Snek heister when
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Are custom perk deck mods considered cheating? Saw some on last bullet and didnt want to dive in before I goofed.
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>>147767973
Everything is cheating including DLC
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WTF How did I get 9 cable ties
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>>147767973
If you have to ask...

>>147769464
Fully Loaded Aced rolls a chance for a ziptie on ammo pickup for the team. It's hilarious.
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sale shitter here

I've been lurking in silence for a while and have a few questions.

What are some good contracts if I want to solo stelf to git gud?

What is ECM rush?

Which dlc's should I buy?
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>>147769464
chance to get one whenever you pick up an ammo box
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>>147767973
If it gives you an advantage that a player normally wouldn't have, then yes, I would consider that cheating.
this game is already pretty easy, why make it even more of a cake walk?
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>>147772731
>What are some good contracts if I want to solo stelf to git gud?
Most stealthable Bain heists (not the DLC ones, at least for a saleshitter), Election Day, Murky Station
>What is ECM rush?
When you drop an ECM and rush into the location, killing guards and controlling hostages. Usually done in Jew Store for card farming
>Which dlc's should I buy?
For stealth? None, really. Probably Clover for the deck
In general? AK/CAR pack, BBQ pack, Hotline pack, Western pack, Sydney, Sokol, Dragan, Jiro, Gage packs
Don't fucking touch the Chivalry packs, the Weeaboo and Cowboy packs have better bows/crossbows and the melees are shit

Unless you like the masks, then go ahead and be a good goy rat
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>>147774280
>Sydney
Why? Shit deck, shit character, shit weapon.
>no mention of best gun DLC
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>>147767973
I saw one of those mods in action the other day.

The host doubled the Grinder regen rate but halved the duration and said it's a "balanced and fair change". Then he proceeded to have a punching fight with a DW blackdozer with a suit and his health basically never went down below 100%.
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WHY DO THE GUARDS NOT LEAVE THE MAP LIKE EVERY OTHER HEISTS' GUARDS?

AAAAAAHHHHHHH
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>turn on increased damage to 1-shot everything
>turn on no-recoil
>play DW all the time and carry shitters

this is what fun feels like
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>>147775315
>shit deck
you take that back
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ON YOUR FEET
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>>147778982
SHOT
THE
FOCK
UP
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>non-shit female character never ever
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GET UP
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>>147782135
SNAKE
HEISTER
WHEN
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>>147782135
The Swedish developer are cucked into believing that if they make any kind of female character that doesn't have the personality of an ultra-violent psycho, then they must be objectifying women with their cis-het white male privileged beliefs.
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>>147783534
don't bring your faggotry into a pdg. We don't care about your politics and just want to shoot cops.
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>>147784043
Spotted the butthurt Swede
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>>147775315
The deck is the current meme deck that everyone fawns over.
>Historical pack
If you really think $4 for one decent gun is a good deal, suit yourself. Nagant, sterling and broomhandle are a waste of money right now tho.
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>>147776238
>sydney - solarpletex
>guards - /pdg/ when he posts a webm
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>>147784043
>he thinks everything is alright in Sverige
https://www.rt.com/news/310757-sweden-malmo-blasts-crime/
http://fof.se/tidning/2015/5/artikel/darfor-okar-de-kriminella-gangens-makt
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2119/journalist-went-to-swedish-no-go-zone-to-interview-stone-throwers-was-stoned.html
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sweden-gay-march-through-mainly-muslim-area-stockholm-called-provocative-by-anti-racist-1513240
http://www.thelocal.se/20160506/blue-flight-swedish-cops-quitting-in-droves
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.676/sweden-to-reward-returning-isis-jihadists.html
http://www.thelocal.se/20150409/containers-set-to-become-homes-for-swedish-students
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/swedish-politician-says-its-worse-when-swedish-men-rape-women-compared-when-immigran
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/leftists-greens-block-bid-to-officially-recognise-isis-killing-as-genocide/
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.800/is-terrorist-were-swedish-television-s-expert-on-islamophobia.html
http://www.thelocal.se/20151115/swedish-city-is-largest-recruiting-ground-for-islamic-extremism
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>>147785146
Nagant is only useless because there is no Obrez modification that'd allow it to get the highest conceal among snipers, with the caveat it isn't silenced and has terrible stability.
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So it's been a fucking while since I played this. Last I played it ICTV was dog shit and LBV and BV were the best armors and you had to level dodge.

Did the game just buff everything or something? I got top tier in Fugitive revive, Enforcer additional armor (but not aced for ICTV), Mastermind Revive with Ace, and top tier in Ghost (but not aced since my concealment with LBV and BV is already enough to take advantage of the unaced version of the Ghost top tier dodge thing.

So whats the optimal build? Last I remember you had to SCROUNGE for points and appropriate them well. Now I reached top tier in SEVERAL trees.

Did this shit get easier? Also Crook or Rogue Deck? I assume Dodge is still vital and what you GENERALLY do for deathwish, right. ICTV still shit?
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64th for Sexy Dallas
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>>147789151
Literally pick anything you want the game is easymode now
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>buying and selling a shitton of Moist Nuggets for money after infamy
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post best heister

opinions welcome
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>mfw selling the biker safe for 0,80ā‚¬ Why do people buy this shit most of the skins are worth less than the safe itself
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>>147791418
Jimmy.
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>>147791418
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>>147721424
Flechettes subtract 3 damage, and add 8 accuracy, and the capability to penetrate tan armor, as the description states.

What the description does not state is it modifies the range values. A shotgun by default has a minimum and maximum range of 10m and 30m, doing full damage from 0m to 10m, 0 damage past 30m, and linearly decreasing damage from 10m to 30m. What flechettes make this is 20m to 54m.

A Raven has a base damage of 59, with Flechettes decreasing it by 5%. Because of the decrease in damage being linear, a flechette does more damage on any target past 11 meters.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot(y%3D56,+y%3D59,+y%3D177%2F2-59x%2F20,+y%3D1512%2F17-56x%2F34)++x%3D0..54,+y%3D0..59
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>cheating shitters everywhere with every single skill aced
>except the two skills that are most overpowered right now
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>>147790730
Yeah, I sorta got that feeling. With the suit you can get 50% dodge but with BV you get like 140 armor and 35% dodge.

I looked over some things and it looks like you can tank damage with the ICTV now so it isnt complete ass

Did some deathwish heists and either the people are good or it was....really easy
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Daily Reminder
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>>147793461
Dodge is shit
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>>147774280
>Murky Station
Is actually harder than Shadow Raid.
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>>147795313
not really, you just have to go slow. It's quite difficult to get cornered in MS like you can in SR (those fucking stairs)
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>>147795313
Are you kidding me? Murky Station is only hard if you're going for Looting in the Dark.
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>>147756186

Stealthing with pubs is dumb as fuck.
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>page 10
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Does Overkill work on HE guns now?
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>>147791418
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>>147772731
>What are some good contracts if I want to solo stelf to git gud?
Basics are like
- Jew Store / UK Job
- H&T
- Nightclub
- Four Stores
- Art Gallery
- Diamond Store

Then the more challenging but not torturous ones are:
- FWB
- Shadow Raid
- Murky Station
- Election Day
- Big Oil (at least, to the point when the alarm is guaranteed to go off)
- Golden Grin Casino
So once you get the basics down, these would be good practice.

Then you have the "I hate myself and fun" stealth heists like:
- Framing Frame
- Dockyard
- Big Bank
- Train

I'm still unsure where to put Diamond. I think it's in-between the last two. Maybe GGC-tier of frustration for a medium payout.

>What is ECM rush?
When you put down ECMs to just skip the stealth. For example, 4 people with 8 upgraded ECMs would have about 4 minutes of ECM time. That lets you go in, do a bunch of objectives and loot, and get out.

OVK (and the Steam forums) got very butthurt when people reacted to Infamy 2.0's shitastic release with ECM rushing every Shadow Raid DW pub lobby ever so every new heist they released since Spring Break have had ECM counter-measures like objectives and timelocks not working when ECMs are running.

>Which dlc's should I buy?
The ones at a sale.

>>147795313
No it ain't.
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>>147799079
They don't trigger the skills but they do benefits from it once it's activated
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>>147799502
You mean OVK aced or basic?
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>>147799359
>Tfw you spend few hours trying to solo stealth Big Bank and then finally make it
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>>147795313
Is this some kind of ironic joke?
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>>147799359
Ive only been playing since the diamond heist was released, what used to be different about SR?
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>>147795447
>>147795575
>>147799359
>>147800301
Fuck off, contrarian hipsters.
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>>147800817
calm down
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>>147755157
>>147755984
I just updated Better Bots so I'll see what I can do.
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>>147800817
A two-objective stealth map will never be "more difficult" than Shadow Raid.
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>>147802171
Cool.

Sounds like a hard project though so don't kill yourself doing it if it turns out it sucks to do.
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>>147800817
Is there something you want to tell us, you little shitter?
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started playing again after I bought some DLC on the sales. Been using the MG44 which I got all the attachments I want for it and the sterling. I'm yet to run out of ammo ever, yet I remember ammo being hard to come by, did they buff that too or is it DLC being pay to win
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>>147803813
Ammo pickup values were reworked several times in the past year. Depends on when you left I guess.
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>>147800817
>Can completely control the entire basement with a pager to spare
>Dont have to though, as the entire basement can be navigated by vents
>The location of all mission equipment and drones is loudly presented by distinctive sound effects
>Guards all have simple and observable patrol patterns that don't change
>Plenty of trains to hide under
>Set amount of loot, 2 downstairs+12 upstairs+2 mission bags
But nah, you're right, Murky station is actually a real ball-buster and we're all just being hipsters.
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PUNKASS
COCKSUCKER
LITTLE BITCH
CLOAKER DOWN
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>Come back to PD2
>Join a Slaughterhouse DW
>Team looks destined for failure
>Fuck it, I'll try
>Carry the whole game, picking them up and getting them out of custody countless time
>We're about to escape
>Get kicked at the very end

Now I remember why I left, and why I need to host.
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>>147807198
>playing with pubs at all
>ever
>for any reason
Don't act dumb.
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>>147807503
The game loses any semblance of challenge when you have an organized team though.
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>>147807791
Maybe if your team is actually good.
Besides, it's still going to be far more enjoyable than pubshittery.
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>>147807198
This is the by far the most infuriating thing in this game
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>>147807198
Is this a meme? This never happened to me
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>Overwatch has ranked matchmaking (despite being shit)
>TF2 is getting ranked matchmaking even for pubs
When is Payday 2 getting ranked matchmaking?
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>>147800007
Stelfing DW BB/GG is pretty much
>pain
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>>147809884
It's gonna be a DLC
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>>147802197
SR is basically a stealthing tutorial, it's that easy. Grabbing the bags is risk-free, you'll just have to spend a lot of time hoisting them to the pickup spots.
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>>147799359
GGC is easier than BB? I'm usually stelfing with a friend, and we almost managed to get BB right, but GGC seems like literal hell, considering how much shit you have go through.
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>>147807198
>>147808721
>playing on russian hosts
slav-scum BTFO
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>>147810081
BB first part of the map is really easy. Genocide everyone on the lobby upper floor, should only take two pagers, maybe 3 if another guard comes down the elevator while you wait for the timelock. If Hillary calls in additional guards you can kill them when they wander upstairs, they have no pagers. After that it's just sneking into the vault and get four money bags out the garage exit to the van.
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>>147810090
Rude.
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>>147809910
What's the general consensus on Hoxton's Revenge?

I stealthed that shit for the achievement and I ain't doing that again. Too many cases where the location of the FBI boss/laptop (and one possible telephone pole spot) can almost guarantee you'll waste a bunch of pagers.
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>>147810337
I don't think I've ever played PD2 on a russian host that wasn't human garbage. There's a reason for them being the european BRs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qbp2F-wN5M
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>>147810331
>Genocide everyone on the lobby upper floor, should only take two pagers
This is very stelf.
We didn't even consider it, so I had to get to the manager's office (from the first floor) twice without killing anyone. Fug.
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>>147810448
It's not too bad, really, sneking the guards is pretty safe with lots of hiding spots, but the RNG objectives in the middle of the chain can be sort of hairy sometimes. Once you've got the safe room door you're home free, guards won't react to the open door so just bag Hector and put him on the chair in the little rightwing niche of the saferoom.
>>147810529
You'll need the poisoned cake in the canteen area to take out another guard. But I think that and the unlocked cargo bay door are the only required favors. An extra set of body bags or spy cams in the vault hall area have their use though.
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>>147810882
>bothering with canteen
If you're doing Entrapment, sure.

Otherwise I put my favours into elevator and a body bag case. Maybe a keycard too if I decide to bring trip mines.
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>>147792375
Nice, but nobody uses the stock Raven, calculate it with buckshot vs flechette
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>>147810448
>I stealthed that shit for the achievement and I ain't doing that again.
This. It only took me two goes on DW, but its fair to say I got lucky with spawns and its not the sort of heist I want to go back to, even if I am a stealthwhore.
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>>147812085
>removing a guard and saving a pager
well worth it, famalam
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>>147772731
Easiest heist to stealth is jewelry store. Almost no guards, the only problem that can occur is that there can spawn a hot dog stand.
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>>147772731
>>147814374
Yeah, Jew Store is a good walkthrough on stelf concepts. Only thing you need to know as a newbie is the monitoring guard keeping cameras active. After you've gotten comfortable doing that you try Shadow Raid OVK.
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>>147812443
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Bit over 14m, damage dropoff is fast.
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What are the best heists for leveling up, infamous money, and payday card grinding? Also, how the hell do you loot all of shadow raid?
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>>147814374
Easiest heist to stealth is Flash Drive.

>>147816697
>What are the best heists for leveling up
Rats Pro Day 1. 7 bags of meth. No contest. PrOVK and Pro DW are both acceptable. If you don't want to spend 5 minutes getting an extra 1-2 mil exp and getting the $20+ mil payout at the end, you can just restart Day 1 once you get the exp.

Lesser alternatives would be like: HB, GGC DW, FWB DW, FS PrOVK/Pro DW (if you get all loot), Boiling Point OVK/DW, HM PrOVK/Pro DW, Big Bank DW. Apparently Big Oil PrOVK too but I am skeptical.

Technically Goat Sim is a good source of exp IF YOU SUCCEED but fuck Goat Sim. Fuck it hard. Probably one of the worst things to be introduced to the game.

Pro Jobs = +20% exp.

>infamous money
That's just money since it's not like payouts distribute money differently.

Aftershock DW is objectively the best being a $24 mil payout for a 13 minute heist. Yes, 13 minutes you baby. It's basically a stupidly short Transport that actually pays well.

Then there are others like OVERDRILL, Rats PrOVK/Pro DW, Mallcrasher DW ATMs, Boiling Point DW, HB (Pro) OVK/DW.

Followed by Slaughterhouse DW, FWB DW, Undercover DW, Counterfeit DW, HM PrOVK/Pro DW, Biker DW, and

>and payday card grinding?
Normal Jew Stores. I used to get ~50 Jew Stores an hour when I was grinding the RNG for a specific achievement mask. Then I got 3 of the same mask in the next 10 cards.

If you're not farming weapon mods, as long as you have 2 spares of a particular mod, that mod will never drop again until you have less than 2 spares available. So eventually if you play/grind enough, you will stop getting weapon mods altogether and have a better chance at getting other card types though at that point, you're probably dumping your money into offshore paydays. Also don't buy guns you're not using and the game won't roll mods for them.

>Also, how the hell do you loot all of shadow raid?
You git gud.
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>>147818104
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>>147816697
>how the hell do you loot all of shadow raid?
You channel your inner autist.
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>>147819380
>50 minutes
>for a piss poor xp and money
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>>147810081
GGC is "masturbate in the back room for 15 minutes at 10fps while you wait for the 4 guards to walk into their deaths, then botch stealth because a restless pub decided to have a dick-swinging contest with the locker room guard".

Big Bank is actually slightly more complicated even if you're not doing Entrapment.
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what are the best weapons?
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>>147821376
The FAL
that's it
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de-paws-it
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>>147823014
Cash in paw-ket
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>>147823014
>>147823917
Animal heisters when?
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>>147824234
Bonnie's in the game already.
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>>147824234
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Do left click macros not work? I'm trying to set one up on my g502 using the software but all I get is one measly shot.
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>>147824363
>Bubsy heister
The one that could surpass Sydney in sheer measure of how annoying they can be, every line is a pun.
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>>147821376
the M308 ntr the dlc DMR rifles, that's for sure.
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>>147825573
It means you've just gotta grind and bear it
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>>147825573
You've got to be kitten me.
That's inpawsible
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The difference between Overkill and Death Wish is like night and day. I'm trying to transfer, do you guys have any tips or guidelines to follow in order not to suck on Death Wish? Things like builds, does everyone run Inspire on it?
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>>147774280
>>147799359
>>147815191
Oh right! Many thanks. I've been doing all the basic ones and I think I'm ready for at least Shadow raid and murky station.

I tried to do election day and framing frame with some friends and dedicated myself exclusivly to keep watch of the guards and it was a fucking mess. Specially framing frame on the last day. It's a pain in the ass, takes too damn long, and RNG fucks you in the ass everytime.

>>147821376
>>147825629
I dunno mang. The M308 has been good to me. I can one shot most units and I rarely run out of ammo. The reinfield shottie is also fun.
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>>147827367
Day 3 of Framing Frame just requires you to actually keep track of the guards and wait for the extra guard to leave and not acting dumb in front of the Titan cams.

Sensor trip mines and spycams are king.
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>>147827210
Never ever run around out in the open: Cover, cover and cover. Use a 80+ weapon and land your headshots.
>>147827367
Stelfing is pretty much a solo thing, if not everyone knowing the heist by heart. Having 3 people run around on the map means x3 the chance of fucking up or getting spotted.
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>>147824363
>hedgehog mask
it's the little things
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>>147827613
3 extra people is x4 since it's +300%.
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>>147827719
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sock mask when
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>>147830280
When the SpongeBob character pack is released
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>>147830943
>"Cyclops" helmet mask
one can dream
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>Over 300 million spending cash in PD2.
>Nothing to spend it on.
good game
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>>147832565
>inb4 people would prefer the gta:o jewing over the payday 2 discounted weapon prices
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>one of my work colleagues bought pd2 during the sale
>another colleague suddenly blurts out that he's been playing for "ages" (read: 40~ hours)
>starts bragging that he and a friend played a heist on very hard once

I didn't want to tell him that Very Hard is what I solo on, and that it makes me a shitter to do so
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What's the best deck with frenzy berzerker ICTV
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>>147827719
He didn't say 3 extra. He said 3.
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>>147833664
Put your trip back on trashly.
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>>147834210
ƍnfiltrator and Anarchist
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>>147827210
1) Cover
2) Bring something useful like doc bags, ammo, or Inspire.
3) Don't use perk decks because you like them. Use one that works well when you have 10% health. This is entirely on your playstyle.
4) Break 80 or go home. M308-chan will always love you.

That really is about it. The big difference between DW and Overkill is basically knowing the map well enough to be able to get from point A to point B without getting killed, and being able to know where all the cover/lines of fire are around you at all times, ie map familiarity.

And start on the indoor maps like FWB, not a horrible killbox like Goat or Lab Rats
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>>147834764
>Use one that works well when you have 10% health. This is entirely on your playstyle.
What?
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>>147835912
I mean if you can get Hitman to do the job under those circumstances perfectly well, then use it. Even if you don't like it much.
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dlc dlc when
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>>147834651
Any non-dlc ones?
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>>147840808
hm... Hitman I guess?
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>>147840904
What about maniac or armorer
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>>147840965
If I remember right, Hitman regenerates your armor completely after 5 sec no matter what happens.
so if you get health damage within 5 sec with frenzy and ICTV then you are really doing something wrong
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what do yous thinks are the best deck? so far ive maxed crew chief, but im looking at gambler
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>>147843087
Muscle, Rogue, Infiltrator, Grinder, Maniac, Anarchist
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>>147843087
Muscle, Infiltrator and Maniac are all top tier decks if you're gonna be using armour.
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>Looking for ways to one-tap deposit boxes without Berserker in my stelf build in Long Guide
>Deposit boxes open after taking 37.5 damage by a saw. The efficiency boost of Portable Saw aced is a plain multiplier of 1.4 to the saw damage regarding objects that can be sawed open; with one damage-increasing mod the saw damage becomes 26 * 1.05 * 1.4 = 38.22, which is sufficient to open boxes with one hit.

Can confirm. This baby with Fast Motor and Durable Blade can one-shot deposit boxes no problem. Managed to clean out 120 boxes + ATMs with an unupgraded ammo bag. You can probably do the same with Silent Motor+Sharp Blade but you wouldn't be able to go through almost 30 boxes a blade. Might be useful for stealthing Train instead I guess loud Train is better. Totally worth the 4 points in Portable Saw Aced instead of the +2% boost I get from Transporter Aced.

I guess the days of needing Berserker for one-tapping boxes is over now.
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>>147834086
>having a job
lmao
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>>147843087
>gambler
Its decent, but prepare to get kicked a lot. Most people just assume you're hogging pickups because you're an asshole and they never notice the regen.
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>>147848526
>Pubs
Fucking retard
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>>147846874
> being a NEET
kys
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>being on page 10
git gud
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>>147834086
>soloing vh
I assume loud. And that you're playing outside meta just to relax.
I'll sometimes load up a vh, bring some retarded akimbo build and just fuck around lazily. It's kinda cosy.
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>stelf FWB on DW
>only got an achievement for DW

>stelf the Docks on Overkill
>the achievement for stealth requires DW
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147853236
>taking longer than 13:37 to stelf FWB DW
shitter
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>>147853341
I don't even know how to get any of the timed achievements yet.

Pls no bully.
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>>147853505
run, don't walk
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>>147854498
But, like, what if you have to wait for guards? I assume there's some luck involved.
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What is the point of this, besides being the best looking suppressor?
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>>147855745
Also, wtf is this
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>>147855938
Gotta get that concealment boi.
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>>147855938
>85
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>>147855745
Muh damage: the suppressor.
Pretty sure it was more useful before the unbalance.

>>147855938
Sweet Memever.
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People here absolutely hate public lobbies, but I haven't encountered any particularly bad ones. Is it because I'm an NZfag and all of the good players in NZ/Australia play pubs?
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I decided to watch the web series. Jesus it's bad
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>>147857309
>sexualizing Gage
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>>147857309
>sniper lady that doesn't know how to adjust her own scope

what's wrong anon
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>>147856518
It's just RNG. But tbqhwu most pubs are fine (game sense/skills aside). Pubbing OVK with some pre-infams can be quite comfy and fun sometimes, most even appreciate a couple of pointers delivered in a non-'tistic manner.
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>>147862657
>the little pickled Chains
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>finally get around to redoing my stealth build
>40 points left over
>literally nothing left that I'll actually use
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>>147857309
I tried to watch it but whenever Gage shows up I just see the brother from Ray Donovan who's always whining that a priest diddled him.
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>>147863816
Sensor Mines. That's where I put most of my extra points.

Maybe JOAT Aced if you can afford it.
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>>147863816
get Jack of All Trades.
you can carry bodybags and ECM at the same time
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>>147863984
Aren't sensor mines default now?
>>147864346
Just grabbed that and aced cleaner for the extra body bag case. Still have a lot of points left over, though. There just isn't much you need for stealth now.
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>>147864485
Yes, but you only get 3.

Fully upgraded, you get 14.
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Hey, did they ever fix the bug where you have to re-crouch after bagging something? If you didn't, the NPCs would think you were standing or something.
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>>147865040
Nope.
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>>147863816
>>147863984
>>147864346
>>147864485
I was always partial to this build
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mhjlpR:eKlQr:tCefHKlR:gABCDEFJklPr:ibcdea:::
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ONE
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>>147841196
That 5-second thing is pretty dubious. I think your armor has to completely break before the timer starts running.
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cool guy mask when
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>>147845761
This has been known for years, nerd.
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>>147865140
Well now I know why I got caught once doing exactly what the webm depicts. Fucking Underskill.
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Why do the biker skins suck ass so much?
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>>147868287
Is it the skulls and flames or something else?

I think at this point, as long as they look consistent and not completely retarded, they can probably be considered "decent" or at least "okay".

Now the COP skins on the other hand...
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Get the fuck up
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So this would be a weeb version of the Alesso heist?

Instead of Alesso we get idol music or something
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>>147871957
We get Simon Viklund covers of the Love Live and K-ON! themes.
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>>147872084
>Simon Viklund covers of the Love Live and K-ON! themes
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>>147872084
I need this now
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>>147872275
And our new heister is a nerdy asian cosplayer who uses gratuitous Japanese terms despite being Vietnamese. She comes with a neko-themed mask and a pair of nerd glasses you can unlock.
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>>147872605
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>>147765091
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Am The One Who Knocks ('halloween_1)
- Vlad Is Mad! (vlad_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>147874478
Did I mention her hair is pink? Because it is. Also she wears a Hello Kitty backpack.
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>>147874585
also neon genesis tactical suit
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I was fucking around with weapons and skills and for some reason the Rattlesnake sniper with Silent Killling Basic, despite having ~10 damage higher than a Joceline/Mosconi with slug rounds, can't one-hit a shields through the shield. Do slug shotguns and snipers have different damage falloff through shields or is something bugged?

inb4
>using the Rattlesnake
I was having fun trying out non-meta weapons/builds
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>>147875489
Post build and weapons first.
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>>147875063
Shit, unless she's loli.
>Overkill making females without tattoos or annoying voice
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You'd think after a few hundred SR runs, you would know all possible spawns in the map.

3 years of Shadow Raiding, and I never saw anything that wasn't coke or weapons ever spawn here. Crazy.
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Guys, is there any lmg that is currently viable?
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>>147877131
all of them

99% if not all of the weapons are viable
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>>147878031
what about dw? any recommedended lmg?
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>>147878189
>what about dw?

>>147878031
>any recommedended lmg?

I prefer the buzzsaw due to the fire rate and ammo
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The biker shotgun would be the best if it wasn't for the lame ammo cap
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Anybody up for a few hours of Cook Off?

The people I played with so far always got iffy after a mere 45 minutes.
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>>147879112
>hours
"hour", sure, maybe, if I feel like it.
"hours", I can't tell if you're serious or exaggerating.
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>>147879112
>tfw noone wants to deathwish Christmas for max presents

presents > meth
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>>147879384
>deathwish Christmas for max presents
I can't tell which heist it is you're talking about.
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>>147879112
>hours
You may as well go full turret build and check out, eat, text, watch some videos. Doing the same things/camping the same vantage point doesn't get tedious at all? I always go 7 bags for Rats and that feels plenty long, at like 45, 50 min.
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>>147879807
45 min should be the total length when you leave with the cash on Day 3. That's way too long for just Day 1.
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>>147879112
>actually wanting to play Cook Off for several hours
stupid dumb frogposter
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>>147876213
Joceline with slugs and no shotgun skills: 175.8 damage
Rattlesnake with suppressor and Silent Killer Basic: 187.2 damage

For some reason while the Joceline was easily one hitting shields, the Rattlesnake took two shots.

That was the initial thing I noticed that made me post this
>>147875489


Looking into the matter I tried another heist using the Lever-action Rifle with a suppressor and SK basic which got to 188.4 and it did one-hit shields.

After that I tried using the Lebensauger with SK Basic because it had the exact same 187.2 damage as the Rattlesnake, I shit you not every other shield I killed took either one or two shots. At first I thought it was a range thing but come close range kills took two while some far-end-of-Firestarter kill took one.

I just...I just don't even know.
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>>147879232
I want to play the map for 2 hours at least once.

>>147879907
I deleted my Payday 2 folder after microtransactions

>>147879807
I enjoy holding the line

>>147879384
Would be up for santa's workshop dw .
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>>147879890
Aggravated by the fact that me nor my friends have that meth mod that tells you what exactly to put in. So we'll hear it, and someone will wait for Bain to repeat. Or everyone will be distracted by the dozers outside, having tuned Bain out. ect. ect.
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>>147880075
Was hoping for a full pd2skills link. There could be other things that you think are irrelevant that might affect the damage. That and it makes it easier for others like me to try out the exact same weapon and skill builds instead of playing 20 questions over 4chan.
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poll time!
http://www.strawpoll.me/10702226
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>>147881626
do your duty and vote
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now with TWO polls!
that's right, two polls

http://www.strawpoll.me/10702266
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feel free to discuss the poll results as well
just please don't leave me here alone
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Why aren't you using this build, anon?
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>>147880474
I played cookoff for 2.5 hours once and got like 800 kills
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>>147883228
You have a nice pistol skin.
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>>147886425
Thanks, unlocker :^)
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>>147882359
who voted for maniac
>>
GET BACK INTO THE FIGHT
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>>147880474
I wouldn't mind doing an organised run of a couple hours or so.

Last one I did was on OVK so it was a miserable payout of $50 mil despite being 36 bags.
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>>147889536
Forgot my pic. Steam says Mar. 2015 so it's been a while.
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Are infamy masks considered the sign of a complete shitter?
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>>147890704
I doubt most people would recognize what mask comes from where, really.
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>>147890704
possibly, but comparing them to difficulty/meme masks is like comparing a nametag to one of those sandwich board signs that people are forced to wear as punishment, in which both signs read "do not play with me"
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>>147889726
>easykill
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>>147890704
I'm usually more wary of people wearing the Deathwish difficulty mask. More often than not, they're not legit, by a very large margin.
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>>147891124
Yes, I know. That's why I want to do another one. On DW.
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>>147890704
Just all masks in general, or just the first five?

I think it's more about whether that I-67 player is wearing a Spectre or Specialist infamy mask as opposed to just any infamy mask in general.
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>>147891973
II-67. Whatever. It's late.
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>XIX-80
>still a shitter except now idiots let me in their DW games
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>>147893305
>tfw half the people playing dw hack and it isnt even hard with a good setup and cooperation
>russian joins, askes if were hacking, "no", leaves
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>>147893586
Also most people seem to be running toasters so a DW assault wave only gets you like ~50 kills.
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>>147894374
cloakers are ethereal beings i love them!
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>>147880512
My setup at the time of testing it out was something like this I think. Also I was testing it out on Overkill not DW since I was just messing around with stuff and didn't necessarily plan on it being a legit build

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/ml:efgIJkL:tCDefGHKL:goqr:ibcdea:pE8::w39-16-5-1-2:s30-23-47-46-12-44-40-49-41:a3
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>>147896909
>tripmine shit
>no frenzy or berseker
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>>147896909
I mean, it's not like it's a secret that Rattlesnakes can't one-shot shields on OVK. The interesting bit is that an AP shotgun with less damage can.
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who are the best ethereal beings and why are they cloakers
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>cheaters ejaculate loot into loot copter
>act entitled and shit like theyre doing the payday community a favor with their "extra loot for you guys ;)" bullshit
>filling the game with level 100's who have no idea what the fuck their doing in stealth or combat
please make it stop
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>>147900037
>>act entitled and shit like theyre doing the payday community a favor with their "extra loot for you guys ;)" bullshit
i hate this shit
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>>147899559
tasers a totally underrated

>SAY GOODNIGHT MCMURPHY
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is DMCWO really cheating? it's just balancing and killing the meta meme isn't it? making what is shitty, not shitty?
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>>147896909
So I've been running a few solo rounds on OVK and I have been able to one-shot shields with your build every once in a while.

I am 99% sure it's because Underdog Basic is active long enough for be to kill them every once in a while. I can't one-shot if I'm sitting in the back and firing but if I'm in the middle of a mob, I sometimes get one-shots. This is probably the one time Haxhud actually might be useful but alas, I don't have it or any other HUD mod that'd display buffs, so I can't confirm.

If you can do the same with the other sniper rifles you listed WITHOUT Underdog Basic, then I'm full of shit but I think Underdog is the source of your occasional one-shot.
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>>147864346
Thanks! I've never noticed that one and the 1 pts I had left were just enough for it!
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>>147872605
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>>147877112
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>>147882359
>grindr second place
>...why?
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>>147902229
derp, *12 pts
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money
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>>147901518
>DMCWO
>balancing
Fucking kek

That shit somehow makes the game even easier than the recent weapon rework, which made every weapon good.

And yes, you moron, you're altering the stats of your weapons outside normal bounds, you are cheating.
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>>147899559
because cloakers will come from anywhere to fuck your mouth.
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>>147881626
>>147882048
>stealth

get the fuck off of my board
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I use Sokol as my main character, i've been using the tony mask that I made for a while, but recently got my hands on a sokol reborn mask, which I made to my liking. I'm undecided as to what I should use primarily so i'll leave it up to you guys, poll below.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10703582
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>>147904554
>hey guys, feels something in the air
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>>147906604
both of these look fucking hideous
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Anything new when?
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>host undercover
>making the jump
>internet shat itself and disconnected everyone

Now people think I'm an ebin troll or something
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is frenzy currently bugged?
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>>147910987
no
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>>147907358
Post your masks and ill rate them then.
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>>147911676
>n-no u
Hes right, they're hideous.
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>>147910987
daily reminder is fine and totally not bugged at all. Disregard all those stupid accusations or devs claiming it's OP right now: it's balanced
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>>147912035
Fact is, if it only affected health, it wouldn't be worth the points.
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>>147912634
that's what it did before and 60% to armor is out of hand
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LET'S STRIKE A MATCH, MY DEAR

SET YOUR DAMPER TO BE OPEN WIDE
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>>147914480
What did he mean by this?
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Plane heist when?
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Why do I only get one daily sidejob?
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Why can't I get the unlocker to work?
I extract the mods folder to payday 2 directory, and the extract the .lua file into the mods folder. Am I doing anything wrong?
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>>147890704
anything but hockey mask/default is a sign of a complete shitter
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>>147915509
7 months ago.
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>>147916229
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>>147917357
>any valuables you held have been confiscated
>The Safe House
>yfw all your masks, weapons, and cash are gone
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>>147917738
Cheaters deserve nothing less.
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>>147914693
LET THE PASSION WARM YOU UP INSIDE

IT'S THE FLAMES OF LOVE (The flames of love!)
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>>147851749
>And that you're playing outside meta just to relax.

Which part of 'I'm a shitter' are you struggling to understand?
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I want a bunch of packages for some weapon builds. What heist/heists would /pdg/ recommend for farming them?
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>>147919028
You aren't scary anymore, skullfaggot. Go home and be a family man.
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>>147924453
bank heist
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>>147924453
Jewelry Store DW
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I know FWB is a good place to practice DW loud. Are there any more heists like it?

t. shitter who only plays overkill
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>>147927895
Git gud
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>>147927895
uninstall
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>>147927895
biker heist seems like a good place to practice.
it has everything that can fuck you over. clubhouse gives cover from turret and snipers but if it gets crowded, it gets just as bad
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Aight so when I stopped playing Techforcer and Materforcer were the hot shits you had to bring for DW

what is the hot shits for dw now?
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donacdum
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Is there a way to make the Deathwish mask not atrociously ugly?
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>>147933512
by modding Shrek on it
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>>147933512
No fucking way and that's fine this way, easier to spot the shitters and SAM cheaters who unlock it at level 38
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shittler dlc when?
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>>147935503
I suppose that's true.
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>>147901952
Completely forgot I added that skill, you may be right about that

>>147897167
>being unable to read previous posts
>no_fun_allowed.jpg
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>>147901952
>>147937513
Though its still weird that the Rattlesnake cant one hit some of the time but the Joceline can always one-hit despite having lower damage with the build. 2spooky
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I am running nothing but HM/HB/Rats for 2-3 infamies now. Are there any other heists with good payout? I need a change of pace and stealth missions have shit payout.
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>>147938264
overdrill
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325th for sokol being lewder than clover
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>>147938695
2lewd
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>>147916229
do you have BLT hook
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I've been out of the game for a long time, are silenced deagles still the meta? What's the new hotness?
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>>147943401
Kill yourself
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>>147943401
They still are.
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>>147916072
If the same side job shows up two days in a row, the game just pretends it doesn't exist.

Nobody knows why this is still a thing.
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>>147928497
I know we like to make fun of newbies but sic'ing a guy wanting to get better playing loud DWs on Biker Heist is just mean.
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>>147938264
Stealth missions do have shit payout but they have decent exp.

e.g. GGC pays shit because it's all cash but it still gives a good whopper of exp

Murky Station DW gives alright exp too for all loot.
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kek
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>>147942754
yes. isn't that the "mods" folder and the IPHLPAPI.dll?
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>>147938264
Boiling Point DW gives like $14 mil when you scan all 4 bodies.

Slaughterhouse DW is ~$10 mil.

Aftershock DW is $24 mil with crew alive bonus.

Mallcrasher DW is $2.8 mil from ATMs + jewels.
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>>147948653
I don't understand why people draw saggy boobs on everyone for the sake of more visible cleavage.
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>>147947938
>Recommended
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>>147753013
>yfw the biker bitch just won't die from an RPG blast

nice sub-bosses Overkill
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>>147949837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuT2LAGsxoo&t=3m47s
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>>147951270
This is the power of being a cute.
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>>147951356
God, it's like I'm watching an episode of Game of Thrones. Depressing as shit.
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>>147949837
saggy boobs are okay, also pd2 girls get a special treatment because of the devs who failed their homework regarding the charisma of the femheisters while all the other heisters such as wick, chains or dallas are flawless.
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>>147952059
>wick
>flawless
Go be sad somewhere else, Keanu.
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>>147952391
>implying Keanu cared about the crossover
>implying Keanu would like the fake Wick heister
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>>147952597
I assume Keanu cared about Wick.
And there's, like, 1 person in the world who cares about Wick in Payday.
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>>147952835
He phoned in the phone call for the trailer (if he actually did it) and didn't do the Wick heister voice lines because he doesn't do voice work for games. I really doubt that he cared.
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>biker heist day 2 solo death wish
fucking hell
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I've been doing a few idle H&T runs and I realised that this is what Big Bank was missing: More deposit boxes.

They pussied out with giving you only 80 deposit boxes like they were copy+pasting Breaking Ballot. There needed to be more boxes and more shit to loot given the ginormous size of the vault. They even had walls of safe deposit boxes in Big Bank, but they were the useless black kind you couldn't open in most of the cages.

The next mega bank robbery needs to have several hundred deposit boxes. HUNDREDS.

That way when you take a step back and admire the loot that's waiting to be bagged, you'd think to yourself: "I deserve this."
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>>147955510
Oh and less fucking war medals.

God, how can there be so many useless fucking war medals?

It's not like war vets are actually capable of affording safe deposit boxes to begin with.
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Am I supposed to receive no xp when I use unlocker?
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>>147955998
Yes you dirty cheater buy the dlcs goy
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>>147955687
>Oh and less fucking war medals.
Why can't you take war medals anyways, are they really that worthless or is there some unwritten code in the payday gang to not take a war vet's shit? Also, why are there also so many books in those boxes? And why are they always the same exact book?
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>>147955450
run ecms
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>>147957893
In America, war medals are like human organs where they are illegal to buy/sell even if they're your own and they have a legal value of $0.

Of course the Payday gang doesn't give a shit about legislation but I think that since they're so proud to be American (excluding the foreigners, but they usually share the same sentiment about war vets in most countries). they might share the same sentiment that most Americans have where you don't kick a guy who's down on his luck because war vets mostly live a notoriously shit life anyway. Might be a case of the "even bad guys have standards" trope. Plus it's pretty worthless as far as I can tell on a cursory Google search. Unless it's some rare vintage medal from a famous person, I don't think any medals would carry any real value worth the attention in whatever super tiny niche market the medals might sell in.

And when you pick up coke in Shadow Raid, Bain comments "I hope they weren't giving this marching powder to OUR BOYS." implying he cares about the troops or whatever, instead of rambling about how the war is a sham for oil and the troops deployed are idiots who deserve it for falling for the scam blahblahblah like as if he drank the /pol/ kool-aid or something.

Link to law: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/704
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtUucAcQoaE

bears
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>>147959548
>Alaskan bears, not Russian
ONE JOB
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>>147959548
Are we stealing these for uncle Vlad?
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>>147959675
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>>147959339
Intradasting, never knew about that law.
But I find it a little hard to believe that they care that much about the US military when they regularly mow down cops by the hundreds, but I guess it's easier to like people who aren't always trying to stop you from robbing whatever place that you've robbed for about the 50th time now.
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>>147960378
Chains and Wick are ex-military themselves.
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>>147960378
Chains is also ex-military so he might take personal offense to them trying anyway. And criminals are of the general opinion that cops are pigs and scum, etc. and very crooked so they give very little shits about cops in general.

Also, the opinion about cops is why they also enjoy bullying the shit out of Murkywater because Murkies are PMCs, aka. mercenaries who decided a paycheque was more important than serving the country - which is ironic given the Payday gang's need to get paid no matter what, and they're all mercs themselves technically - but if you listen to shit like the drama over Halliburton during the Dubya era, PMCs are also notorious in general for looting the places they're contracted to protect, etc. so PMCs are also low on the ladder of sympathy for the Payday gang. Like, Bain goes on and on about how each piece of loot in Shadow Raid came from the Murkies stealing the goods from Iraqi museums and Saddam's palace, implying that Murkies totally deserve to get robbed/shot.
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>>147960465
>>147961027
Alright that explains it pretty well then, thanks anons.
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What the fuck.
Every time I host a fucking dw pub these non-infamous, total mongoloids join the game and they instantly get fucking downed. Overkill should implement a system that allows you to filter using infamous levels. Also, I think I've heard that there is a mod for this but I can't find it.
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>>147957893
Given that every single heister has a "WE ARE STEALING THE BANK'S MONEY, NOT YOURS" speech, they probably think of themselves as modern day robin hoods, not muggers who beat up civs for their lunch money.

Now that I think about it, we never mugged a civ for their wallet ever. We only ever take keycards.
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>>147963881
I think NGBTO was the one with infamous filtering. But it auto-kicks, not block joins.
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What if ovk added ccw using civs in heists that take place in states that allow it?
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>>147965053
Sounds like more shit Broncos to shoot.
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>>147963978
i thought that was a nod to robert di nero's line in HEAT and a good way to prevent hero-logic
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>>147965853
>a nod to
isn't it literally verbatim for dallas and only has a couple of swears or words changed for the other characters
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>>147963978
>they probably think of themselves as modern day robin hoods
Even when they're smashing up peoples' livelihoods to enforce """protection""" rackets?
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>>147967306
Th-that was a favour to Vlad. And they totally were insured so it's not like they lost anything.

W-we're still professionals.
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>>147874485
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Hector Begs You For Mercy! (hector_4_jobs)
- Yeah He's A Gold Digger (yeah_hes_a_gold_digger)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>147968680
And what about the time they seized a fusion reactor prototype for a corrupt politician, so that oil conglomerates would support him in the next election?
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>>147969939
Well we shot a bunch of bikers for it and then raided a nerd's house. Look at all those sports cars he had lying around. Fucker can build another one.

Seriously, how hard would it be for the inventor to just make a second one if we didn't trash his data and notes? Or even shoot him?
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>>147964102

NGBTO has all kinds of filtering, like automatically checking if someone unlocked all their infamies at the same time.

It's sad that we have to nig-rig solutions like this because Overkill won't implement a filter. New players are probably being driven away because instead of just not seeing DW lobbies that they're too new for, they're joining and getting kicked.

>>147968680

Actual consequences for killing civs when?

>you get an imperceptibly small increase in cop spawns or whatever
>it's easier to massacre every single civ in the map than risk them sounding the alarm, just grab two pieces of instant loot to cover the cleaner costs

I want the cops to start pulling out grenade launchers if they know all civs are dead/evacuated.
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>>147970308
>mfw I killed everyone in Jew Store DW after a fresh infamy

o fug
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>>147971571
Killing civs does nothing to cop spawns in the game.

Only exception is that it'll increase sniper spawns in loud Jew Stores.
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>>147970308

Or maybe they start using bombs on robots.

Too soon?
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>>147970115
>company takes prototype
>company studies it
>company submits a patent on a key operating principle
>can even hype the fusion research to the media
>it just never has to be released
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First time playing a DW game on a Hoxton Breakout.

I couldn't afford to break cover for more than a couple seconds and was generally in survival mode the entire game. (I-87,Ex-pres,most tank related skills unlocked but didn't have the ICTV) My damage was fine, I just couldn't be in the open for too long.

The thing that shocked me the most was my teammate's ability to deal with the damage. They didn't need the cover nearly as much as me and were sometimes able to run their way through situations that would have downed me in a half a second.

So what's the deal? Do I need to pick up the ICTV? There was another player using CTV like me but was doing just fine. Did they have dodge builds? Is my perk deck shit? Were they just taking advantage of the anarchist/frenzy nonsense?

How do I get gud?
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>>147973990
#1
cops are much less likely to shoot you if you do not look at them
#2
any skill that makes them less likely to shoot you is automatically a good skill
#3
not having the armor regen on headshot skill is a sin
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>>147973990
>Were they just taking advantage of the anarchist/frenzy nonsense?

Probably, if they were disregarding cover in DW.

>>147974319
Does the skill that makes them less likely to shoot you just make them shoot at teammates instead?
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>>147974623
no it just makes them less likely to shoot you
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>>147974319
>not having the armor regen on headshot skill is a sin
I have the non-aced version of it. I only picked it up because it seemed to synergize with my deck to proc my heal sooner.

>any skill that makes them less likely to shoot you is automatically a good skill
I don't have any of those.

>>147974662
>no it just makes them less likely to shoot you
Interesting.
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>>147974934
The 25 (or was it only 20?) armor you get instantly per headshot is really good if you can aim. That's easily over a hundred armor every time you peek out to shoot cops.
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>>147975465
It's 25. Headshots are no problem for me but my understanding is that the skill has a cooldown of two seconds. Or is that just for the non aced version?
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>>147975821
Nah, it's 25 every 2 seconds. When you're defending an objective this can easily proc multiple times in a row. Sure, when you're getting assraped by a skulldozer this will do fuck all, but it's still quite literally free armor. It's what can separate you from getting health damage and balancing on a smidge of armor when moving from point A to point B under fire.
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the thermal drill
GO GET IT
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>there will never be a Payday 2 weapon that operates by the gast principle.
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>>147927895
HoxRev LOUD
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I still feel bad when shooting all the civilians in H&T because I ran out of zipties
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So why is arachist/frenzy the new meta?
They don't seem to interact in any way.
I would have thought yakuza + frenzy would be the new meta, considering you're at a constantly high armor regen. Couple that with ICTV and the armor back on headshot perk, wouldn't all the armor be better than whatever anarchist/frenzy does?

Pic unrelated
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>>147985514
Frenzy is bugged and is giving armor resistance, so you can go fast and have crazy armor with absurd damage resistance, or go full tank and laugh at bulldozers in their face
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>>147963881
You probably already found it but here you go.
http://lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14571
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>Trying to reach maximum infamy because why not.
>Got bored and the next infamy reset decided to be a shitter a little and play a melee build.
>Psychopat + Frenzy, go with Suit Jacket and Spear of Freedom for maximum memes.
>Its fun
>Its so fucking fun poking everyone and everything to dead.
>Always get 200+ kills and no downs.
>No anon run there is a black dozer around the corner
>Two charged pokes to the head, both crit and he's down.

I know it won't be DW viable but damn is fun.
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>tfw Dallas killed 5 cops

fucking Dallas man
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>>147990334
I think most things could be DW viable if the AI didn't shoot to clip from the most impossible hitboxes/angles most of the time; it's so hard to determine sometimes if I'm in good cover
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>>147972628
The entire reason we went after him in the first place was because he already published his classified research about doing it.

I think stealing the engine wasn't about delaying his research but actually intimidating him into stopping. He could always remake it but by shooting up his house, the Elephant can then reach out to him and say "Next time they won't miss."
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>>147973990
>I-87
dont play dw
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>>147985514
Frenzy's damage reduction affects armour right now so it's good with any armour-based perk deck but Anarchist is good because it gives you a ton of extra armour for health you don't use and then just pump you with infinite armour regen as you shoot cops.
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>>147991309
>only gets 5 kills
dallas is a shitter
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>>147961027
wow i had no idea the lore was that deep.
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>>147991516
Maybe it is in close quarter heists given that you have to on the enemies faces, also while I can kill trash with a poke DW you need to charge up to kill someone, and you cant afford to stand stil In DW
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Just carried the shit out of a Beneath the Mountain DW lobby.

Joined into a 20 minute game where nobody tried to open a single vault and the turret Maniac host was the only one standing. He went into custody too but I got them all out, and then just plowed my way through all the cops to get all the loot. And I mean all the fucking loot. Had to run back to the elevator room by myself at the end because the pubs couldn't leave the helipad to get two gold bags I threw at them. Didn't help that one of the pubbies was a sub-infamy that aggressively ran around sawing dozers and specials as much as possible. It was pretty funny to watch though.

Maniac's damage reduction is a hilarious complement to Frenzy's current state. Basically took no damage and only got downed by a Cloaker because I was distracted trying to figure out why a dozer was getting wrecked by what seemed to be an infinite stream of bullets. Turns out the host put down all his turrets on the slope leading into the base so it seemed like the dozer was getting hit by an overhead SWAT turret.
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Oh I finally realised the 5 cops guy was referring to the real life Dallas cop shooting.
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>>147997905
I wonder if OKVL will take inspiration and add an EOD-boom-bot enemy to the game
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>>147957893
I don't know what its like in the US, but in my country war medals have the recipients name engraved on the back, so unless the medal is made of a valuable metal, they aren't worth shit to anyone.
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Does the one guy who posts keys still post?
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>>148001135
unless clarkson was bullshitting, his program on Victoria Crosses seemed to suggest that each was worth alot based on the merit of the medal, and not its material value
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>>148001674
TBF, Victoria crosses are a special case, since only about 1200 of them have been issued over nearly 200 years of warfare involving all of the UK, Canada India and Australia. They're a bit rarer than the average purple heart.
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>Its a "shitters call bugged because frenzy actually has a purpose now" episode
Getting old quickly
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>>148002643
trading during an assault phase is for sure bugged
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>>148002643
it's there for anarchists
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>>148001171
Ashley hated us from the start and is now making giveaway to only the good goys on reddit
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>>148004068
If he finally fucked off then fine by me.
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>>147996816
gj
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>>148002705
Don't see how hard it is to make it apply only to people with the skill.
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>>148004068
darn, I kinda liked that guy
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>>148002643

Frenzy should grant damage reduction at all times, but at a lower amount than 60%
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>>148007714
maybe but I was fine with it before the crazy damage reduction
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>>148008669

It didn't make much sense before.

>here is a skill for people running with next to no health
>take less health damage

It was only taken as Basic to ensure that Berserker was on at all times
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Does anyone know how anarchist interacts with recovery rate?
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>>148008814
>Nobody aced Frenzy for less health damage after they already reduced their max health
Are you drunk?
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>>148008814
guess that's true you already have no fucking health less health damage wouldn't do much

but yeah I just took basic for that

>>148009850
it doesn't

>>148010173
8 more points for nothing
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>>148010173

>be Berserker
>have 23 HP after going down or standing in fire or whatever
>spend 12 points to increase that to 38 effective HP

Even if you were staying at 30% HP you'd only gain 41 effective HP
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>tfw dick-fingers
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>Beneath the Mountain
>call out loot vaults in the text chat
>host opens one of the empty vaults anyways
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>up to $62,000 to put a sight on a picatinny rail
>$921,000 for a fucking nugget with a scope mount drilled into the receiver
How do the payday gang not realize that Gage is ripping them off big time?
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>>148012783
the original gang was set for life after clearing their very first heist. No one gives a shit about money.
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>>148012959
>ywn buy mosins by the crate, clean off the cosmoline, and individually resell them to heisters for over 1000x markup
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>>148012783
maybe the dollar is worth less in payday universe
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>>148013516
That can't be right, otherwise Bain wouldn't have bitched about $7 parking.
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>>148012783
Maybe most of the money is going to Bain given that they used to pay him for skills.

So Bain is ripping them off and they put up with it because he keeps giving them jobs.
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>>148014529
>"I like to make a silent takedown."
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>>148014529
>overkill
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>>148014662
solarpletex is a massive shitter
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Page 7 fucking sucks.

Someone give me a really fucking stupid loud build, I'm bored.
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>>148016519
Make a DW viable dodge build with Burglar.
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>>148016519
Try to make a DW viable melee only build.

>Hard Mode
It must be suit build

>Prepare to Die Mode
No Anarchist
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>>148016960
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACEf:eaDEFIjl:gghiJkLnPr:fMOQr:ibcdea:pB8::w40-27-6-3-28-12:s49-2-7-10:a1
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>>148017840
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mJKl:el:tABCDEF:gghiJkLnPr:fMOQr:ibcdea:pS8::w23-2-1-3:s85-1-5-6:a1

totally a fucking meme build
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SNEK
HEISTER
WHEN
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>>148021834
REMOVE SNEK
REMOVE SNEK
VIGILO CONFIDO
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>>148021834
FUCKING SNEK
GET OUTTA MY /pdg/
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMOVE
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>>148017889
>Frenzy Aced with dodge
I dunno.
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>>148023280
If you weren't so hung up on Burgler you could get Crook and do an LBV build
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>>148022739
>>148023230
SNAKE
WHEN
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>>148023827
The premise was "stupid loud builds".

I'm just skeptical it's actually DW viable.
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>>148024010
>snake heister is introduced with a similar themed heist
>its a vlad heist about infiltrating a monster girl sex dungeon

topseller on steam for several months in a row
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>>148024609
fuck me we really need those sneks
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>>148024609
>topseller on steam
The heister or the heist? :^)
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>>148024457
You end up with 69 HP + 20 armor with 60% damage reduction, giving 222.5 effective pool with a 172.5/50 split; vs 250 effective with 230/20 split.

In exchange for that loss of 27.5 effective, you gain 40% more damage. And even more when you go down at least once.
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>>148024609
>>148024662
>>148024694
legit tho how would long tail movement in 3D space be done properly
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>>148024936
It goes something like this:
>subdue the snek lethally
>attach a heister to one end of the snek
>attach a heister to the other end of the snek
>carry the snek to the dissection table
>praise the Commander and his holy prophet Bradford
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>>148024936
It's just a simple spline animation.
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Does anyone know what biker waif I says before you open the door? Door muffles it obviously and I have kind of shitty hearing.
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>>148027423
It's shit like
>"THEY'RE HERE TO TAKE OUR STUFF"
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>>148025604
>>148025271
>>148024662
>>148024010
>>148023230
>>148022739
>>148021834
Can you X-com fags please fuck off to your own general?
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/pdg/ Shadow Raid DW Big Lobby ECM rush all loot when?
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>>148030708
>being this much 2014

/pdg/ only prefer bank heist:gold stealth on DW anyway. They're too scared to play watchdoges on death wish
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>>148031135
More like Watchdogs pays like shit why bother doing it when there are so much better loud DWs that are actually a challenge and also pay better?
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>>147927895
Big Bank, any H&T, Cookoff/Rats are all pretty easy, relatively speaking. Nightclub is very easy, to the point of not really being very good practice. Mallcrasher is always funny when everyone goes full retard trying to get to the exit zone.
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>tfw thanks to the Update 100 fuckup, skins from the newer safes will forever be epic/legendary tiers of unobtainable even if I sell a Biker safe for $1 a week
>tfw OVK keeps skipping my question about re-releasing The Gimp in another safe on their stream Q&As
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>>148014529
Hilarious.
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What are some good mods to replace the pictures hanging on the walls?
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>>148034365
The Midna porn one.
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>>147812884
Did they fix using a drill in the manager's office to static all the vault guards in the stairwell? Because that's a good reason not to use the poisoned cake.
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>>148036521
Nope.

They worked on more important things, like implementing microtransactions and nerfing Shadow Raid exp gains permanently.
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>>148037493
How is XP a problem anyway? I always hit level 100 sooner than 200 000 000 offshore.
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>>148032882
for the community, the COP skins are the symbols of the worst of the skins and considering how a COP legendary is easily worth 500-600$ (even a red M308 is worth 270$ in mint condition and stat), the devs don't want to cuck the owners by releasing more safes.
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>>148034365
gay scales mod
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>>148039235
>m-muh awful grind that ruins my fun experience
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>>148040785
Speaking of which, is there some way (like SAM or something) to trigger COP safe drops? If COP skins are worth so much and overkill is apparently powerless to stop to stop people using shit like dlc unlocker, there there must be some way to make a buck off of it?
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Frenzy fix when?
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>>148043293

If Grinder is any indication, there will be a minor inconsequential tweak in two months followed by a major nerf this time next year
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>>148041661
>complaining about xp nerfs when you don't want to grind
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>>148043293
>"fix"
>Wanting Frenzy to go back to being 2016s dead presidents/brothers keeper
You are shitter redefined.
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A PROFESSIONAL DOESN'T HAVE TO LET THIS THREAD REACH PAGE 10, YOU KNOW
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what are some good builds that aren't cheating mods? I currently only have the retexture and Persona infamy cards
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>>148046925
good mods*
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>>148041942
No way. After some russian fucks found a way to duplicate christmas and goat safes devs went full "shut it down" and made sure you'll have to own a COP dlc to get one. Enjoy spending 200 bucks to please a jew steamfag that own a copy of that dlc
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>>148043293
Hopefully ever, nobody wants this skill to be nerfed, its original purpose sucked so much balls it was pitiful
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>>148012769
>call out which vaults are empty
>all filled vaults are open
>shouldnt we open the other two?
>Locke: You fucking idiots its empty
>hurr how was I supposed to know it was empty, It's not my fault I didn't believe you because im a noob, further making pre-infamy kids look like bigger retards
they actually talk like that too, minus the preinfamy bit
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>>148012769
>>148048629
How do you know anyway?
Asking for a friend haha.
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>>148051232
Check the cameras, it shows in all the vaults.
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>>148052518
Shit, I didn't even notice the cameras.
That is, my friend didn't see them, yeah. Thanks, anon.
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HEY YOU, GET ON YOUR FEET!
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SQUEEZE THOSE TRIGGERS
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http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACEFIJKl:eAcDEFIJkL:gjl:fHjl:::
This is the build I've been running and I'm having fun. I use at least one shotgun, the grindr perkdeck and lbv.
I'm been playing each infamy level with a different build.
The next one will be with sentries and joker, to be able to afk during heists.
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>>148053451
and the best part is they wouldn't seem so stupid if they just asked
More often than not pre-infamies act rude, and their favorite excuse is almost always "lol sorry im not good at the game I don't speak english/it's free week i just want a TF2 skin/ omg I can't believe how strong these enemies are (in DW)
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goyim
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>>148039235
That's the irony.

OVK gets butthurt when players find a fast way to grind and just drop everything to nerf the shit out of grinding patterns.

But then a month or two later, they basically get everything but Transports and SR DW give out 2 mil+ exp a pop.
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>>148040785
Yes but there is *NO* cucking involved if the skins don't fucking exist to begin with.
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>>148025925
that'd be on flat ground in constant motion. I mean if you go through a window the tail would be dragged through it as you move, or if you go over yourself it'd self collide and put you over it
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>>148062545
>spending hundreds of dollars on fucking weapon skins
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>>148063603
Maybe I just want a chance at opening a free safe and getting one.

Right now, as it is, The Gimp legendary skin for the minigun from the COP safe does not exist in the economy. You can tell because Steam didn't even bother making a SCM entry for it. If one at least existed, it'd just give you an empty set of listings for the particular one(s) that exist, owner doesn't even have to try to sell it.
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>>148063965
I haven't been following the COP safe nonsense, what's so special about this skin?
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>>148065784
It's a legendary skin from the COP safe that doesn't exist. That's it.

Out of the 197 skins that were released for Payday 2 so far, it is the only one that does not exist in somebody's inventory somewhere.

Also note that OVK only managed to sell a little under 40k copies of COP out of their max of 50k and that the chances for a legendary is 1 in 10,001. Also there are three legendaries in the safe. So even if somebody rolls a legendary, it's an extra 1/3 chance that they get a particular legendary skin. In this case, nobody rolled The Gimp. There are one or two of the flamethrower and RPG's legendary skins in existence but zero of the minigun's.

On top of releasing a shitty fucking safe to begin with, OVK fucked up hard by making it contain three different legendaries to begin with at the quantity of COPs available at the drop rates available. It's like, even when they fuck everyone over with a shitty fucking safe in a shitty microtransaction system nobody fucking asked for, they still manage to find a way to fuck it up even harder by failing to ensure that there's a chance that at least one of each would exist after all's said and done. It is a miracle they can fuck shit up as hard as they do. A normal person can't fuck up this hard even if they tried all their life, this is superhuman levels of fucking up.
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>>148065784
go look it up yourself retard
stop fucking asking to be spoonfed and try lurking moar
>>148066673
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS
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>>148066913
he was just asking a question, why are you filled with so much aggression anon
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>>148066673
to be fair it looks like shit
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>>148066913
The other thing I don't understand is how OVK implemented the COP's drop rates and if they're as retarded as I think they are.

A blue common is 75% (7,500 / 10,001)
A purple uncommon is 20% (2,000 / 10,001)
A pink rare is 4% (400 / 10,001)
A red epic is 1% (100 / 10,001)
A yellow legendary is 0.01% (1 / 10,001)

The COP safe has zero blues and purples in it, so that would actually mean that the pink rare would be 400 / 501, red epic is 100 / 501, and a legendary is 1 / 501 which would make it so that there would be a shitton of legendaries in the market. But there aren't. So either an overwhelming majority didn't open their COP safes, or the item system does something retarded like it rolls the rarity like normal but if it rolls a blue or purple, it rolls to the next best thing so then everybody gets a pink rare at a 99% drop rate and legendaries are still 0.01. I can't say, since the SCM doesn't give 100% insight into how many of each skin there are, only how many people are putting theirs up for sale, and I don't have access to knowledge how Valve's item drop system works under the hood.

But ultimately, we have a shit safe full of shit skins, and we can't even have one of them because it doesn't exist because of the ~4-5 legendaries that seemingly came out of it, none of them were The Gimp.
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>>148068048
They all do but if you're going to release something, at least you can try to make sure it fucking exists.

It's like having a MMO event where the winner would win some super nice rare prize but nobody manages to win because the players are shit or the devs are shit or there's some game-breaking bug and devs refused to fix it in time or redo the event or at least extend it to give people a chance after the bugfix. So nobody has it and its only proof of existence is its place in the item DB and GM chars wearing it to mock the players, and you can only get it via cheating or private servers.
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desu a bunch of the legendaries have shit that can't be recreated
Dragon Lord Flamethrower has +1 damage
Big Kahuna Reinfeld 880 has +1 damage, +10 conceal, -6 threat
Santa's Slayers Crosskills has +3 conceal
Don Pastrami Platypus 70 has +1 conceal
Hungry Wolf KSP 58 is weird, can't even get close to the accuracy + stab, but if you try you end up with more damage
Apex Breaker 12G has +2 ammo, +4 damage, -4 accuracy, +4 conceal, -6 threat
Astatoz AMR-16 has +1 damage, +12 accuracy, +4 stability, +6 conceal, -6 threat

>>148069803
desu I'm quite fond of Astatoz, great stats and it looks alright
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Just got my refund. Thank you based Steam.
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>>148070617
Meant just the COP skins.

The Mass Effect skins from the Jimmy safe are alright.

Too fucking bad that Update 100 fucked over any chance of a person getting anything from that safe for under $50. Same for the Wolf and Sydney safes.
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>>148070940
desu I can't say no to the american ones either
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>>148070902
>caring this much about $5
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>>148071234
I'd qualify most of them as Texas/cowboy skins instead of generic American. They're mostly meh for me. They overuse the "American flag as generic diagonal stripes over the whole fucking thing" motif that plagues a lot of the earlier shit skins.

It's why I like the Judge's Pocket Patriot more than the others. Because the stripes are actually parallel to the barrel.
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>>147905872
So how exactly could I go about changing/balancing things?

I'd like to think I'm not on the level of OVK having 9mm plinkers doing 100+ damage but even then I'm sure there's room for improvement.
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>>148071741
Steam could keep the $5 for all I care, I just don't want the shitty game devs to get any of it.
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Just played for the first time since greedfest. Skills are weird. 9 million new perk decks. Are weapons still totally fucked up? Do skins matter?

I just used my old builds, and since it was OVK was fine, but I'm afraid that I'd have to learn skills and weapons all over again if I wanted to play for real.

Hold me.
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>>148073457
>implying Overshill would care about a $5 loss when they have lots more pouring in from their hundreds of DLC
ok
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>>148073457
why you hefta be mad?
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>when you finish your first Overdrill and DW mission
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Can somebody please upload sokol's lines in their .stream form?

I desperately want to create a mod but I can't access his character files. I think it's because I'm a cheap fuck and didn't buy his dlc.

So as far as I know the only way I can access his lines is if somebody is kind enough to extract their game files and upload the char_sokol file to a dropbox or something somewhere.

Somebody please help a heister out.
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>>148076007
you have the files local, all the DLC is, is a verification letting you use whats already on your drive
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>>147969506
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- High Times (voff_2)
- Situation Normal (slakt_2)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>148075424
The fact that she doesn't have a massive erection is at odds with your text, anon.
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>>148076203
Really?

Because I've extracted the bundle files from my assets folder, but I can't find the character files for any dlc characters.

For example,jacket voice mods will use a folder called char_jacket, this I can't find anywhere.

Any idea where to find the lines for sokol? Are they just thrown in with every other voice line in the regular_vox folder?
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>>148075424
>not
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>>148076007
Like the other guy said, all DLC is already on-disk.

Look harder.

There might also be guides for looking for specific files on forums here and there.

>>148076551
Wouldn't be surprised. Overwatch's voice lines are in one massive collection of several thousand files in no particular order so without reverse-engineering the code, there's no way to figure out which one is which without listening through every one.

Also maybe just look for patch diffs that tell you which update added which files (e.g. Sokol+GGC update), that might get you a better idea of which files belong to Sokol.
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>>148076848

So what I'm getting is that the only way to find his lines are to listen to thousands of sound files. Thank you overkill.

The thing is...I downloaded a jacket voice pack that is filled with .stream files, naturally. But none of the file names match any of those in the regular_vox folder, where all the voice lines are stored.
This is why I thought dlc characters had their own little folders. How would a folder placed in mod_override actually override anything lines that don't exist?
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>>148046925
I use the sound mod 2bh it makes the guns a bit louder and real
hawk's sound mod or some shit like that, used it when I last played like two years ago and now again, maybe there's a better one out there but this one still updates so whatever
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>>148077327
Only bad goys want to copy game files ;)

BTW we love modders and support them 100%
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Well fuck, I guess it's back to google then.

But if anybody does know specifically where to find Sokol's lines, please let me know.

Maybe I can take you out to bar sometime, and get us the cheeki breeki vodka. Who knows.
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>>148077852
does it fix the retarded double-sound for singleshotting in full auto?
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>>148078261
https://www.reddit.com/r/paydaytheheistmods/comments/3lq8kk/a_mod_that_replaces_voices_of_heisters_with/
>I don't think anyone would be willing to spend that much time on a mod. The voice files are all named stuff like 2455635.stream too so it'd be insanely time consuming to work out what each is.
>Well there is a Google Doc out there that most files labeled (almost all heister lines except jiro IIRC), so its not that hard to figure out.

So I guess find the Google Doc?
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>>148078550
No, that's a feature :^)
It only replaces the sounds. Fixing the two gunshots for one fired thing would probably need to rework the whole trigger mechanics and shit, who knows.
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pew pew
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>tfw overdrill
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>>148081415
>chilling for 34 minutes
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I think someone said that the frenzy skill is bugged to make armor damage taken reduced by 60% too is that true
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Which Cue Ball do I hit guys?
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>>148084432
Yes.
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>>148084432
Joker Aced; 35% less damage, not 55%
Stockholm Syndrome Aced; trade on jump occasionally applied to everyone
Rifleman Aced; +8 accuracy while moving, not a halving
Marksman Aced; *0.8 accuracy, actually less accuracy

Transporter Aced; speedup only from base armor or added with anarchist armor
Extra Lead Aced; base is 300%, turns to 500% with skill
Fully Loaded Aced; 75% ammo bonus doesn't stack with perkdeck 35% bonus, gives zipties

Engineering Aced; AP rounds only penetrate shields, not tan armor
Hardware Expert; hidden 20% reduction in tripmine deploy time
Combat Engineering Aced; hidden 95% radius boost, overriding previous
Kickstarter; 30% autorestart chance overrides Hardware Expert Aced, doesn't make it 40%
Body Expertise; only works if fully auto is set when an enemy spawns

ECM Overdrive; +25% duration broken on client
ECM Specialist Aced; +25% duration broken on client
Duck and Cover; no zipline dodge bonus
Shockproof; 30% every second for 10 second long taze
Second Wind; applies entire time armor is broken; also applies to entire crew
Second Wind Aced; does nothing
Optical Illusions; 35%; not 45%
Optical Illusions Aced; hidden +3 base concealment
Unseen Strike Aced; does nothing

Desperado; works when allies, explosions, or fire do damage, so long as you hold a pistol
Trigger Happy; exponential, not additive, 1.2^4 at max
Running from Death; 80% boost for both, not 100%
Up you Go Aced; 40% HP boost on revive, not 15%
Swan Song Aced; no infinite saw ammo
Martial Arts Aced; does nothing
Beserker; damage bonuses are linear from 0% boost at 50% HP to full boost at 0% HP
Frenzy; 30% reduction of damage to both health AND armor
Frenzy Aced; 60% reduction of damage to both health AND armor

Muscle Quirks:
Panic is 20% chance per bullet, except KSP 58 with 10% chance and Silenced with 0%

Anarchist Quirks:
Armor Regen time decreases have no effect
Second Wind and Dire Need non-ace do nothing due to constant regen

This post was brought to you by snek
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>>148085430
>75% ammo bonus doesn't stack with perkdeck 35% bonus

That's what it's supposed to do.
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>>148086180
it's unclear so baka desu senpai
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Oh my god.
Guys, you were absolutely right.
First World Bank is one of the easiest loud DWs.
...now I believe I can finally beat Murky Station.
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>>148088425
Only hard part is waiting for the first drill. Once you're in the room the spawn levels are shit.

That's why when I play I turn on doubled spawns soon as drill is done.
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>>148085430
>Shockproof; 30% every second for 10 second long taze
this is very nice and I hope they never fix it because soloing heists without needing to lookout for tazers all the time is comfy
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>>147821376
IMO, one of the best weapons to start with is the Eagle Heavy, nice accuracy, and a decent amount of damage.
Krinkov is one of my all time favorites, deals a good amount of damage, fast reload, and decent ammo capacity.
Now, if going with DLCs, AMR-16 with the DMR mod, while using The Bigger The Better supressor and having aced the Specialized Killing perk makes it ridiculously powerful to use against dozers (deals up to 215 in damage)
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>>148088425
>FWB is an easy loud DW
>now I can beat a stelf-only heist
What did he mean by this?
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>>148090827
AMCAR hits 40 damage now. It's pretty good even for loud DWs.
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>>148094093
>40 damage
>good
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>>148094405
Damn spoiled kids and their DMR shits.
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>>148094093
nigga wat
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>>148094648
It's pretty difficult to pass up the M308 considering its damage output,

Current weapon balancing is flatout broken

Currently other weapons just exist for people who are too lazy to aim.
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>>148094405
40 damage isn't bad you shitter
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>>148094093
The only thing that I like about the AMCAR is the fact that you have a lot of ammo capacity for it, other than that, I prefer to use a different weapon. I don't know, it just feels to basic, even though it was one of the best weapons in PD1
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>>148095127
M308 was one of my favorite weapons in the game, it requieres a lot of aiming to master (I only complain because my shitty laptop barely runs the game, which makes it difficult to aim precisely). I remember I had a lot of fun using it with the Deagle, the only problem was that I always needed ammo for both of those
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>>148095647
Thanks to Ammo Efficiency and Fully Loaded, I never have those problems.
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>>148095312
yeah, it's not bad. it's fucking awful.
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>>148095905
>he can't manage on 40 damage
I bet you crutch on anarchist frenzy too you anime shitter
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>>148096103
>"hurr my lower-than-breakpoint gunfu is meta"
>gets called out
>"a-anime s-s-shitter"
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>>148096323
40 isn't lower than breakpoint idiot
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>>148070617
What weapon is that in pic?
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>>148096103
kill yourself
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>>148095312

40 damage with new pick-up values is total trash, even 80 damage guns struggle. Might be fine for dicking around on OVK, but for DW it's ass.
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>>148096497
I run 40 damage guns on dw all the time?? It really does seem that you're just garbage at managing guns and ammo
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>>148096391
I think you meant to say 80 famalam
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>using anything less than 100 damage
what what the fuck? people actually play DW with guns that do less than 100 damage?
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>>148096547
>Intentionally being that inefficient
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>>148096681
>Using the Quad mag
Nice weapon and all you got there, but it looks like you're way too much of a happy trigger with that.
And holy shit, how did you managed to get almost 100 on both accuracy and stability?
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>>148096832
I'm not inefficient though, I never run out of ammo and I usually get highest or close to highest body count
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>>148096912
When you could get even more...
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>>148096989
I likely wouldn't get any more or less using it, having that much damage and such shit rof isn't that great
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Not only does a higher damage weapon lead to faster kills, if you get the same number of rounds from an ammo box pick up the gun with the highest damage simply receives more damage/kills per box.

>I'm not inefficient though
Making up for a handicap does not mean efficient.

>I never run out of ammo
Probably because you have to pick up every ammo box on the map to sustain and your teammates hate your guts.
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>>148097347
If someone ran around picking up every ammo box on the map they'd be dead for sure, don't act dumb just play better
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>>148097476
>If someone ran around picking up every ammo box on the map they'd be dead for sure
That's an argument to use weapons that are more efficient with ammo pickups.

The person with the highest damage gun does less of this.
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>>148096853
>but it looks like you're way too much of a happy trigger with that.
not at all. you'd think that the small ammo pool is bad, but if you can use this thing like a sniper, it's great. And it will shred dozers in about a second
Someone here is talking about how he used a gun with 40 damage for death wish, when I can imagine how awful that is. Maybe if it has some insane 2000+ rate of fire, then maybe it would be alright, but with the way DW works, you're always going to be relying on your team to take out dozers and cloakers for you.
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is ICTV still shit and is dodge still king?

If so Suit rogue dodge or crook LBV dodge for the added armor?

and it IS a ton of added armor
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>>148097960
ICTV and dodge were never better than one another, they were always both top tier.

And still are.
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>>148097960
Rogue is shit

current kangz are suit frenzy anarchist or ictv frenzy anarchist. With SB you end up with around 625 effective HP pool with Suit, and around 1300 with ICTV.
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>>148098267
wha

IIRC the ICTV was shit cause you tank one extra bullet

then you have the same health as a dodge dude only you cant dodge anything cause you have no dodge so youre always getting downed
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>>148098524
Does anarchist give you dodge? If not then is it worth skipping it and going crook?

I can still understand frenzy berserker even on a crook build with dodge, though
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>>148097836
The only weapon I use that has around 50 damage is the Clarion. Not that useful to use alone in DW, but helpful to clear out small rooms, as in the Diamond, or any Bank heist. Can be helpful to kill dozers due to its high fire rate, but still needs to the used with a grenade or a teammate, unless you want to spend two mags on it.
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>>148097836
>Someone here is talking about how he used a gun with 40 damage for death wish, when I can imagine how awful that is. Maybe if it has some insane 2000+ rate of fire, then maybe it would be alright, but with the way DW works, you're always going to be relying on your team to take out dozers and cloakers for you.

Am I the only one that headshots people?

Like, it's NOT that hard dude. Like, all Decks have increased headshot damage, too.
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>>148098996
If a ~160 damage gun takes ~5 face shots to kill a dozer then it will take ~20 shots from a ~40 damage gun.

Even if mag capacity and ammo box efficiency were not an additional issue, the 40 damage gun is simply slower.
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>>148098786
LBV Crook gives 82.5 armor, 230 HP, 30 dodge
Suit Anarchist gives 158 armor, 115 HP, 5 dodge

Doesn't sound good by just those stats, but the real benefit of anarchist is you regen 30 armor for doing any amount of damage, with a cooldown of 1.5s.

However if you truly want to meme it, take note default ICTV is at 221 armor; now say you get Partners in Crime Aced with a converted enemy, that gives you 240.8 armor, 184 HP, and 5 dodge. Now say you've got a buddy with Crew Chief, that's 268.4 armor, 207 HP, 5 dodge. Now an interesting thing is, that +30% armor on Iron Man basic works off armor Anarchist gives. If you have that skill then you're up to 349 armor w/ PiC and CC friend, even without CC you're at 313 armor. Combine that with SB for +10% dodge, Frenzy for 60% damage reduct, and you're cookin at 1209 effective health pool, 1370 when you sprint.
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>>148098786
I don't think you understand, With Frenzy and Anarchist you don't need dodge. You've got a ton of armour that regenerates super fast (think pre-nerf grinder) and takes little damage. Unless you get kicked in the face by a cloaker or try to hug a pair of black dozers you won't be going down. Fuck, if you've got a good Maniac on your team then I doubt that even black dozers will be able to down you.
Saying that it makes Deathwish feel like Overkill is a big understatement.
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>>148097327
Yes, if you're sacrificing Inspire for it. Blindly one-shotting anything is great when under pressure though.
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>>148100176
>LBV Crook gives 82.5 armor, 230 HP, 30 dodge

You mean 140 armor and....35 dodge?
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>>148099547
yeah, taking out dozers is harder.

But taking out 97% of the enemies actually on-screen isn't
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>>148100424
LBV has -5% to dodge
it's 136.5 armor with Die Hard Aced + Iron Man, not sure where you get 140 from.
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>>148100318
>You've got a ton of armour that regenerates super fast (think pre-nerf grinder)

Brother I'm thinking to pre John Wyck update

Ive been out of it a long time

>>148100176
30 armor regen is nice.

But, I mean, from what I remember armor regens quick ANYWAY. So anarchist is if you're gonna be going pow pow pow and shooting everything? With Dodge it's always been move duck and cover
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I can't believe frenzy hasn't been patched yet
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>>148100694
die hard; the dodge ghost skill, right? The top tier one?

You don't even need it aced, actually. It's actually a waste to ace it
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http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mIKl:eacDEFgIjkL:gghiJkLnPr:fMOQr:ibcdea:::
when you absolutely positively need to live as long as possible, going as fast as possible, accept no substitute

>>148100814
Die Hard is Enforcer, gives +20 armor to BV's
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>>148100787
Ive been thinking of moving points around and getting berserk and frenzy

Im not gonna pay for DLC to unlock anarchist. is it still worth it, though? Cause on DW you're still gonna be under 30 or so percent ANYWAY and it just means you get 100% more damage with all guns and tank less health when your armors gone

so even without anarchist its still golden, right
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>all these people arguing about how 40 damage ARs aren't DW viable or can't kill dozers or cloakers in a reliable fashion
Please. It's like none of you played the game for more than a month.
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>>148101034
to be fair skulldozers have zero damage rampup
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>>148100910
shotguns?

Did they get a buff? Last I recall all those buffs were useless cause instead of one shotting an enemy for 100 damage you one shot them for 90000000 damage.

Which is a waste of points

also that less likely to be targetted thing; doesnt that mean your team will be tanking instead?
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>>148100930
I use ICTV + Frenzy + Maniac and give no fucks 99% of the time.

http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACEf:eACDFGIjkLr:gjl:fMOPr:ibcdea:::
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>>148101034
Ive been on this game for well over 4 years now and last I recall /p2g/ loved the carbine and considered it the best gun in the game
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>>148100553
specials take ~2 headshots from ~80 dmg guns. that's ~4 shots from a ~40 dmg gun.

literally the only time low damage guns can be comparable to high damage guns is when you only consider the trash and forget about everything else.
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>>148100930
I tried it out with Maniac a couple of times and it worked pretty well. I couldn't go full retard and I had to be a bit more cautious but otherwise it still took some major fucking up to go down.
Infiltrator and Muscle should also work just fine. Hitman and Yakuza might also work.

>>148101034
>>148101183
You guys just had to give him an excuse, didn't you?
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>>148101131
not exactly

instead the AI assigns you as a lower priority, but also due to being a lower priority their time from when they target you to when they shoot is decreased, as well as the effective distance they can see you at.
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>>148101183
>25 rounds and 83% of the mag later...
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>>148101219
How do you cope without Fully Loaded?
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>>148101249
so get frenzy and berserker and theres no reason to not have a 40 damage gun that goes 80 but with more ammo, then?
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>>148101183
It's a goddamn AR, who fucking cares.

Even if you're at zero ammo left, you can easily fill it back up to 150 or 188 or whatever the moment you grab one ammo box. Ammo sustain is one of the biggest reasons why ARs were always so great. You didn't give a shit if it hit 80 damage or whatever, you gave a shit if you can kill all the cops on the map and still have ammo boxes left over.

Land headshots, pick up ammo. And with a perk deck like Grinder, you just couldn't die ever no matter how hard the cops tried because you had more bullets for regen stacks than they can dish out damage. Then you had the ammo generating secondaries like HE Judge for shit like shields and your melee weapon could totally punch a cop to death or dominate him for another ammo box that'll start your killing spree again.
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>>148101639
it would certainly be a lot better than if you didn't. 80 damage still isn't ideal due to specials taking twice as long as they need to take.

again this whole discussion wasn't about whats viable, it's about what's efficient/meta. the reasons as to why low damage guns are not meta are many, the reason as to why high damage guns are meta are few if any.
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>>148101964
>the moment you grab one ammo box
Did you mean ammo bag?
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>>148102346
*the reasons as to why high damage guns are not meta are few if any
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>>148101639
You're forgetting that Berzerker's damage boost is based on how low your health is. You won't be doing double damage unless you've only got a sliver of health left.
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>>148101613
using a raven and he judge it's pretty easy
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>>148103332
Lol, I used that combination recently, though with full loaded and gambler.

Is the Breaker good enough for this meta? I mean it's difficult to beat an AP slug raven.
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>>148101034
>Needing to spray down the faceplate like a shitter with no self control
>Using F/A with assault rifles
>Ever
The question isn't whether 40 damage weapons CAN be used on DW, hell even the Gruber could be considered DW viable, the question is why you would retard yourself in the age of abundant 80 damage weapons.
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>>148103798
to have fun with different weapons while not being a complete sack of shit
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Meant to quote >>148101419 but whatever.

Here's my old 50 damage AR that I made before perk decks were rolled out and 50 damage was still a meme/soft breakpoint, before I transitioned to a 40 damage higher concealment CAR-4 for dodge. I had a lot of stupid guns and a lot of stupid builds but this CAR-4 got me through a large majority of my loud DWs And it didn't have to be the CAR-4 either. Nobody gave a shit which AR you used or suggested as long as it was capable of hitting the 40 damage breakpoint but in that context, none were ever better than the CAR-4 so most people just ran CAR-4s anyway unless something about it offended them in particular like the ROF or they just really liked one of the sidegrades.

I honestly don't get where all of you are coming from with the >hurr 40 damage ARs are bad meme.
Like, I get that OVK has done a swell job making ARs not be the cream of the crop anymore with the Unbalance but they have never changed headshot multipliers or cop HP values in years so the breakpoints never changed and if you could find a gun build that still hits the same breakpoints with maybe decent stats, then why does it matter that it's an AR? Hell, the Unbalance+subsequent patch boosted ammo pickup rates for the high damage lolnoammo ARs like the AKs too so it's not like the CAR-4 is the only usable AR anyway.

>>148102464
I meant ammo box, knucklehead. You think you're so funny.

>>148103798
Nobody's "retarding" themselves by using a 40 damage AR. It's a preference of a perfectly acceptable and well performing playstyle. Complaining that 40 damage ARs are somehow inferior to higher damage weapons is like arguing that dodge is inferior to armour because a cop can two-shot you on a bad day. Some people prefer shotguns, some people prefer DMRs, some people prefer full-auto, some people prefer melee. The only thing that matters is whether they're doing it right with proper stats and actually doing their job in shooting cops without wasting resources.
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>>148104409
Wrong stats.
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ā‰„>148104409
No one said they were bad, they only claimed they were inefficient/less efficient than the alternatives.

You're blinded by your love for your raifus.
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who /aestheticweapons/ here
>moist nugget
>AMR-16
>akimbo krinkovs
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>>148104903
>Accuracy not capped at 18
>Stability not overcapped at 36
Nigga, how on earth could you call that a Loud rifle?
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>playing on anything below DW, or even OVK
absolutely shameful
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>>148105990
/meta/fag here, if it can't reach 80 accuracy and 96 stability, it's not even worth using it.

Heavy Eagle 4 life
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>>148106675
Heavy Eagle is gr8, full auto M308 is a best
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Chains waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were cloakers in the bank. He didnā€™t see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Bain were not listened to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.

Chains was a Navy SEAL for ten years. When he was young, he watched the escape vans and he said to dad Ā«i want to to be on the vans daddy.Ā»

Dad said Ā«No! You will BE KILL BY CLOAKERSĀ»

There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got older he stopped. But now in the vault of the harvest and trustee he knew there was cloakers.

Ā«This is BainĀ» the radio crackered. Ā«You must fight the cloakers!Ā»

So Chains gotten his c4 and blew up the wall.

Ā«He IS GOING TO KILL USĀ» said the cops.

Ā«YOU ASKED FOR ITĀ» said the cloaker and he fired the roundhouse kick. Chains shooted at him and tried to blew him up. But then the connection to one or more players could not be established and they were trapped and not able to kill.

Ā«No! i must kill the copsĀ» he shouted

The radio said Ā«No Chains. You are the copsĀ».

And then Chains was a bulldozer.
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>>148106031
I had 30%-40% weapon accuracy with top kills in both categories and I liked it.
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>>148105990
fellow /aestheticweapons/ here

i never put gadgets on guns that don't have attachment rails and i always prefer ironsights
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>>148076374
look again plebeian
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>>148107589

>aesthetics

Weapon Attachments Customizer mod is awesome

>using M16A1, China Puff, Troubled War Veteran
>It Ain't Me on loop
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>>148107939
God damn it. You ruined it for me.
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>getting 400 kills with melee-only
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>>148109676
M E L E E
A
B E S T
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>>147970115
I always shoot him because the mission doesn't make sense otherwise
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>>148109676
>tfw frenzy crit-zerker suit anarchist
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>>148110054
Why are you so unprofessional?
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prod melee when?
not the buzzer
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why is sociopath so fun
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>>148112439
because it's on the same level of shit as crew chief now.
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639th for the kawaii mask being the greatest thing that happened to this game since its release.
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>>148096681
>magazine: 75
>total ammo: 90
what did he mean by this?
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>>148114324
like I said earlier, it can double as a sniper due to it's good accuracy/damage. that's my primary gun for DW and it suits me fine, although I usually go though both of my ammo bags by the finish
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You know, in the Biker Heist, the OVERKILL MC were supposedly the Elephant's goto guys for muscle and retrieval missions and shit.

If that was the case, why did we shoot them up in Big Oil in the first place? They clearly were only doing it because the Elephant hired them first. What changed The Elephant's mind?

Why was he such a useless shit in getting Hoxton out?
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>>148113304
Animes get out
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>>147819797
>Playing heists for money and xp, not fun
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>>148118801
>playing with friends
>hey let's do this achievement in [obscure heist]
>"no, that heist has shit payout and no one cares about achievements"
>time for another hoxout
Hunting for achievements is fun
F
U
N
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>>147964102
>>147986042
<3
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>>148120279
>playing with friends
>hey let's do this achievement in [obscure heist]
>"hell yeah, it's gonna be fun, anon!"
Your friends sound like losers, senpai.
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>>148120279
>obscure heist
The fuck counts as obscure?
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>>148122306
>transports
>election day
>diamond store
Not that anon, but I assume it's the heists that you just don't bother with normally.
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>>148122461
I guess I'm just old when I think that those three can hardly be called obscure when they were the shit you spammed day and night because that's all you had.

I think it's also because the newer heists are also more interesting, pay better, and Diamond Store doesn't have its +40% +50% stealth bonus anymore so everybody ditched it since to be honest, it was the only reason we played it past the mandatory achievement completions. Well, everybody ditched stealthing for grinding altogether thanks to OVK killing off stealth bonuses.

Still don't understand why Transports just pay out so little. It's so infuriating. You could walk out with 11 bags of gold on DW and not even collect 300k xp after infamy bonuses, or go past $4 mil. It's like they want it to be shit for some reason.
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>>148115449
>Payday
>lore

pick one and only one
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>>148123878
>It's like they want it to be shit for some reason.

You couldn't be closer to the truth. Enjoy picking that pointless military blueprint.
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>old toaster pc starts dying
>stop playing payday because it runs like pure shit
>come back 2 years later
>new pc built
>miss the summer sale because I spent all my neetbux on pc
>"eh I can just use the unlocker"
>anti-cheat shit implemented
>skills completely redesigned
>multiple skill sets
>respeccing is free
>perks
>guns rebalanced
>captain winters
>shitty stealth bonus makes stealth pointless unless you prefer the playstyle
>DLC hitting train simulator levels of ebin
>CSGO style skin system

wew lads, feels like I'm playing the sequel to payday 2 desu

On another note, is payday 1 worth it on sale? I'd only be playing solo because >ded
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>>148123878

It's a shame. Transports are fun and intense on DW.
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>payday
>>
Hey /pdg/
this game sure changed a lot over the few years that I didnt play it

is Joker a usable skill, or is the minion useless?
it seems fun, but I don't want to waste my time with it
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>>148127887
You can just respec for free whenever you feel like it. Why not just it out yourself?

It's pretty good.
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>>148127887
If you max the minion dam resist skills they become nigh unkillable, especially tans. They make great distractions and do really good damage as well
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>>148128056
>>148128072
neat, thanks
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>>148125065
If you'd rather prefer playing Payday without skill trees, perks, damage bonus, and only using either a double ammo/med bag, then go for it
Honestly, PD1's Overkill +145 is way harder than PD2's DW
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>people who use doctor bag after going down once
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http://www.overkillsoftware.com/workshopmanual/
Well it's time
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>workshop open beta
non-shit skins soon
inb4 fucking nothing
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>>148132843
Incoming meme skins, anon
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>>148132827
>>148132843
>Workshop is just about skins
Excuse me?
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>>148132962
>guns with "donacdum" scrabbled all over them
>most popular skin for months in a row
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>>148133114
>expecting more from overkill
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>>148132207
A E S T H E T I C
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>>148133227
>kawaiidozer
>femcloaker
>gay pride sokol

Just accept your fate
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>>148133698
>>femcloaker
Tell me more.
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I want femcloaker to clip through walls to take me down and ride my dick into custody
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>>148133698
Maybe we'll finally get a vanilla skulldozer mask to wear.
I want to use it for my guntank build dammnit.
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>>148101034
>>148101183
>>148101964
>40 damage ARs can totally kill skulldozers you guys!
>assuming you know exactly where they will be when you encounter them, will start at a range where you can easily unload into their mask before they can do damage, and are alone

I'd be more impressed if you posted the videos of not getting your shit wrecked using an AMCAR on a pack of skulldozers on Mallcrasher or something like that.
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>>148134036
>ALRIGHT, THE SAFEWORD IS "POLICE BRUTALITY"
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>>148127887
Not meta but still really good. With partners in creampie aced, it's quite fun.
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>>148134578
>"YOU ASKED FOR THIS. REALLY"
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>>148134979
>partners in creampie
W-why is /pdg/ so lewd?
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>>148112646
Nothing that provides damage resist is shit tier with frenzy in the state that it is.
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>>148113304
Who the fuck made that.
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>>148115449
That branch of the club was hired to do a thing. they got the info and such, but were holding out for more money or something.

Canon version is Day 1 Stealth with the drug deal happeing, so the gang knows someone stormed the place and killed everyone, but don't know it was the clowns. they assume they just got robbed by the cobras or another gang robbing both of them, and now the Elephant doesn't have to pay them.

Which means they were asking even more of the Elephant than we got paid for it.
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Alex Jones character pack and heists when?
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>>148136523
Murkies are actually lizard people. Like alligators live in Murky Water.
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>>148136523
>not Ghost
What are you, some kind of milkylicking nipple clamp loving, buttplug up the ass having Overkill playing, Bodhi maining piece of chicken eating cornboy crap?
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>>148139159
>wanting meme republican over literally anything else

what are you, some breed of homosexual?
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he keeps on acting dumb
do i need to ace inspire to fix him
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>>148110346
Post build?
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Is there a good way to destroy your teammate's sentries?
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>>148144030
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mABDfr:eFhLr:tnR:ggJKLnpr:fMOpQr:ibcdea:::

I don't use this too often
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>>148144608
you could kick him
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>>148144608
what's wrong with sentries?
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>>148144968
Is it DW viable? I've been dying for a good melee build.
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>>148145168
Well, it does have some dodge and anarchist, you might want to switch out some accuracy skills for bullseye for extra protection
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>>148145265
I'll try it, I need a DW melee build so much
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>>148145070
I could (and should) but where's the fun in that?

>>148145147
Heists get significantly more boring once someone starts deploying them. It was pretty hilarious watching those things just mow down everyone at first but now it's fucking boring when half the enemies get instantly killed by sentry guns. When the objective becomes holding out then you might as well go grab a bite or whatever.
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>>148146172
>When the objective becomes holding out
Which is where I've felt sentries were proper even before the skills update.

It's just that before the update they were too expensive to make worth it. Now it's not so bad, and you can even pick them up to boot. But either way they still belong on hold-out sort of heists.
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>tfw no +3 concealment modifier for saw
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>>148133114
This.

who fucking cares about weapon skins? let us mod this shit like left 4 dead's workshop
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>>148146172
Why are you not playing on DW?
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>>148148101
I am.
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>>148148174
Then maybe you are a badplayer? Otherwise you would know that a good weapon with a build centered around it is way better than maxed sentries.
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>>148148417
What the fuck are you even talking about? my main gripe with sentries is that they make the game even easier than it already is.
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>>148148549
Anon, do you realize how many skill points are required to make sentries viable?
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>>148148750
About 37, right? that still gives you enough points to grab an ICTV and invest in killing related shit and/or inspire.
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>>148149352
Yeah, you can easily grab ICTV, full sentries and inspire or something like frenzerker to go ham
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>This game is effectively /k/ the game sometimes
>Dozens upon dozens of beautiful guns to satisfy every different gun fetish you have
>You'll only ever use 1-2 guns from any given category simply because they are better than the competition or they fill out specific roles well
I mean it's not a huge deal, but I still find myself critically under using all of these SMGs and pistols I like.
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>>148152553
Since you brought it up, you can actually get all the sentry gun upgrading skills aced, ace Iron Man and Inspire, get Frenzy basic and only end up 2 points short of being able to ace Jack of all Trades to bring a second deployable.
If you disregard Jack of all Trades basic then you're left with 7 points. Enough to get the two speed boosts and ace a tier 1 skill of your choice. With Jack at basic you can still get both speed boosts and drop a point into something like Steady Grip or Stable Shot.
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>>148154782
Yep. You can eventually sacrifice the 150% health increase on the sentry and ace Frenzy, although now that you cannot pick dead sentries I wouldn't probably do that.
Considering I usually play solo and skip Inspire I can be a sentry shitting killing machine
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>>148144608
You used to be able to nade them and they'd die instantly before the skill update.

Don't know if friendly fire is even an option anymore.
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>>148154256
Play on ovk or whatever is below your usual difficulty, I do it whenever my /k/ boner kicks in and I feel like dicking around with the as Val, g36, mp5, or some other gun that's not that good for DW that I really like.
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>>148154256
>Dozens upon dozens of poorly represented guns to trigger /k/
FTFY
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>>148157214
Compact-5 is good for DW you faggot, and now with the akimbos too.
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>>148157214
>mfw i just need a DMR AK Rifle and a HE Judge and i'll never need another dlc weapon ever again
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>>148136523
https://youtu.be/Toi4hcoFgfM
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So are any of the non-HE, non basic shotgun ammo any good?

Also I hear people say good things about the judge, what does it do? I'm generally very pleased with the loco (to the point where I often take it before I would take a primary shotgun) but I'm still curious what niche it fills.
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>>148133778
:^)
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>>148159989
Room clearing and sniping.

Imagine a secondary weapon that is like the Bronco except it has shotgun perks and a cone for multi-kills while still hitting center of screen at 100m. That's the Judge.

Don't even need special ammo, you can run vanilla Judge and go ham.
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>>148159989
dragon's breath is alright. decent at taking out shields and good at stopping cloakers.
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>>148159989
judge makes HE rounds not shit
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>>148159989
Judge is a railgun, aim down the sights and you'll hit anything anywhere, give it HE for the stun and there's nothing else you need
You can main a shotgun and get the perks as a bonus but really Judge is just good by itself
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>>148160949
has he ever been shit apart from that one time they made it server side
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>>148162875
>aim down the sights and you'll hit anything anywhere
well anything will since spread is bugged
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I have just made a grave mistake opting into the 850 MB workshop beta.
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>>148163265
Yeah but shotguns still have limited range, HE Judge don't give a fuck
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>>148164063
>not just opting out of the beta
Are you stupid?
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>>148164741
I'm waiting for the beta update to install first before I can uninstall it.
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>>148159989
One of the reasons the custom ammo was originally stayed away from bar HE, was that they used to edit the ammo pickup values. The only ammo that does this now is Community 000 on the Locomotive and Street Sweeper, regular 000 doesn't do it. Just don't use Commie 000 on Loco and Sweeper. Note: ammo pickup is reliant on default magazine size. Even if you lose some total ammo pool with 000, you'll still pick up the same amount off the ground. This makes 000 a no brainer.

Now shotguns by default have a minimum and maximum range of 10m/30m; before 10m it does 100% damage, after 30m it does 0% damage, from 10m to 30m linearly decreasing damage.

000 keeps it
Slugs makes it 20/43
Dragons Breath makes it 20/43
Flechettes makes it 20/54
HE makes it 20/70

With a shotgun like the Raven, Flechettes do more damage, even with the -3 damage malus, at 11m. It does more than even 000 at 14m. As damage goes up the point where they equal out moves closer, so Flechettes are best for shotguns above around 80 damage.

Slugs are bad because they're a single pellet rather than a grouping. It in effect makes it a ghetto sniper. Part of the reason shotguns are so overpowered is their headshot mechanism. If 11 pellets hits a guys body, and a single pellet hits a guys head, it's a headshot. Note the damage in the editor is unintuitively applied as well, say a shotgun does 80 damage, if 12 pellets hits a single guy, he takes 80 damage. If 12 pellets hit 12 guys, they all take 80 damage. If 12 pellets hits 12 heads, 12 headshots with full damage. Honestly bring a sniper if you consider slugs.

The reason DB isn't good is singular. It cannot headshot, it just applies damage and lights on fire. Note: fire damage is unrelated to shotgun damage, it's a complex mechanism of its own involving RNG. You're better off with the flamethrower, which is just a shotgun firing DB pellets with 10m/10m range. Note: it doesn't benefit from shotgun skills.


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I miss the unique heist costumes from the first Payday. I also miss having just four characters.
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>>148166091
desu I hope the next batch of remakes are Green Bridge and Heat Street
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>>148167093
Didn't people found files about panic room few months back
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>>148167093
Maybe we'll get No Mercy this Hallowe'en.
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>>148166091
man i love this l4d style.
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>>148166091
>Green Bridge comes out to PD2
>gang still wearing suits
>"You guys are really well-dressed for this kind of weather ;)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXM0966DPy4&feature=youtu.be
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>>148167838
That's intentional.
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Why does people think the rouge perk deck is bad?
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>>148168849
does payday 2 have the same posters?
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>>148168987
Everyone fucking wishes
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>>148168950
Crook, Anarchist, and Ex Pres are objectively better?
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>>148168987
Nope.
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>>148168987
nope
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>>148169213
>stelf heist
>fucking weapons for loud.
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>>148169213
>LMG and Shotgun
>Shadowraid
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>>148169674
Don't forget Houston's R93.
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>>148169736
At the very least he can mark with it.
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>>148168508
I really like the skill popups, what Hud mod is that?
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>>148169872
Does he even have the range with the iron sights?
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>>148169952
PocoHUD.
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>>148169674
what about that achievement with the ICTV, minigun, and RPG?
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>>148170726
just use the arkansas tooth.
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>>148170726
To be fair, it is called "I have No Idea What I'm Doing".

ICTV is Art Gallery. It's CTV for Shadow Raid.
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>>148170726
>>148171225
Description doesn't mention needing any armour.
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>>148171448
Oh I guess I mixed it up with Cooking With Style which does.
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Somebody make a new thread already.
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>>148170026
TheiƄ Scope.
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>>148174671
Yeah but the poster doesn't have it, hence my saying iron sights.
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