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GET SPOOLED SON edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://store.steampowered.com/news/22385/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Suicide: http://killurselves.com
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui
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How do we fix Chaos Knight?
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nth for Traxex is the best waifu

DEAD

FUCKING

GAME
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Reminder to Vote for IO in the arcana contest
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>>148140393
reduce his ult cooldown by 5 every patch until he suddenly becomes a fotm OP hero, then increase it by 10 and give him +0.2 str gain
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THANK GOD THE SUMMIT IS SOON I FUCKING MISSED WATCHING SOME DOTES.
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What buzzwords and terminology should I add to my Dota vocab to sound like an ebin oldfag?

confusedanimegirlwithinterrogationmarkaboveherhead.jpg
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>>148140393
Make him Chaos Nightstalker

>>148140439
I genuinely used all of my votes on Bloodseeker

>We get two arcana releases a year disguised as seasonal events and one of them is going to be Io themed
>mfw
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>People unironically asking valve for Wraith King Arcana that makes him into a skeleton game
>People literally asking Valve to be able to pay $35 for the old model

holy mother of good goyim

also

>not voting for Necrolyte
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Where is my genderbend arcana valve you fucking hacks!
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>>148140721
don't worry m'boy, pudge will pull out a surprise win over io and get a transgender arcana because inclusivity
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>>148140919
We already have a cutie trap hero :3c Techies :^)
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>>148140646
im voting for pudge
the most popular hero of all time deserves arcana
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>>148140393
build battlefury on him
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>winning game
>Gyro has a 4 stack out ancients, soon to be 5
>enemy Kunkka takes it after he kills the Gyro who was way out of position
>"sry guys, I feed now gg"
Nice game
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>Reddit begging for Mirana model update
Is it finally going to happen bros? Valve will listen to reddit r-right? Mirana waifu will be cute!
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>>148141329
remember this is the kind of people that go 'WELL IF MY TEAM DOES THIS AND THIS IM GONNA FEED ENEMY TEAM BECAUSE THESE GUYS DONT DESERVE TO WIN' even if no one can even figure out what they did to anger the guy in the first place
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I genuinely hope karma will hit secret at TI for their backstabbery. I used to root for EE , but time has made me wiser and i now know anime is the root of all evil.
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>>148141530
Karma doesn't need to hit Secret, they'll do it all themselves.
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>teammates griefs then abandons
>still lose mmr

why?

can I at least lose like half?
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>wtf support no deward
How the fuck am I supposed to deward? Do I just magically know where the enemy wards are? And even if I do, approaching them means I get ganked by the enemy. How the fuck does a support deward except with a gem?
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>>148141440
when i get to that point i openly announce in the pick screen that i will feed if you do x

and then i repeat it in game. if they do x i feed.
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Reminder that LD doesn't give a fuck about the Summit 5. He has already moved on to Overwatch (the first stream hit 6k viewers!). Dota is now an afterthought where he will delegate C team casters for all the matches. Why should LD give a single FUCK about you entitled asshats who don't even bother watching his studio cast, and when you do its with adblock, what a fucking joke. I hope this tournament is a disaster.
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>no /d2g/ carry to support
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>>148141724
its often pretty easy to read from enemy movements where some of their wards are
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>>148140495
Sounds like something IF would do desu. Actually sounds like something IF does all the fucking time. I wonder who will be pushed over the top next time.
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>>148141796
Will this be the death of beyond the shekels?
Will we finally get decent casters that dont have the personality of a moldy cumsock?
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>>148141724
smoke
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>tfw you have a quarry to settle
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>>148140393
Make Phantasms magic immune.
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>>148141724
If you see them ward somewhere you obviously deward them when its safe.

Otherwise you use dewards when there are areas you don't want the enemy to have vision.
Knowing the enemy doesn't have vision allows for taking/defending objectives.
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I really do hope the dota "scene" dies. Pro wannabees are the worst teammates.
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>>148141926
>the death of the best casting studio that was the stepping stone for our scenes best casters like ODPixel and Lumi is a good thing
Dotards are this fucking stupid lmao
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>148142445
>odpixel and fucking LUMI are good
even baits should have limits
you could give someone an anourysm with this
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>>148142445
>best studio
>lumi and OD are good casters
>our
Hello m'reddit
*votes for Io*
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>>148142445

>best casters like ODPixel and Lumi
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does anyone know if winter and xyclopz ever casted together?

that sounds funny as fuck
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>wake up
>no patch
why live?
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Is lifestealer gonna get a nerf? Sub-5k is literally unplayable right now.
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>>148142576
>>148142697
>They have silly accents they must be bad
americans lmao
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>>148142825
in what way will pitlord get reworked before being ported dotards?
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>>148142825
Wait for the All-Star match during TI6, and then they will do it, BOOM. That's it. They announce Underlord in the 10v10 allstars match, and boom. There you go. Sweet, they patch him in within 24 hours, and you've got your Underloard.

If you mean BALANCE patch, then you'll have to wait 1 month and 14 days after TI6 ends.
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>>148142825
It's only been eleven months and $80,000,000 worth of tournaments and pixel sales you entitled little shit it's a free game you don't even need to pay for it maybe support Valve a little bit THEN ask for free heroes maybe??
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>>148143002
It's entirely playable when both shadow demon and beastmaster are in your top 5 played heroes, you're just a baddie
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>>148143002
wait what? I play at 4K and rarely see waifustealer, and when he's around i've not noticed super high winrates for him
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>>148143107
Countering lifestealer requires coordination and solid teamplay.

That does not exist sub 5k.

Hence, unplayable.
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>literally keeping this same exact patch for ti6
why

WHY
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So is dota 2 dead yet?
Or growing stronger?
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>>148143217
i rarely see lifestealer, and by rarely i mean when i play it on unranked
that + 0.15 bat hurt him pretty badly and the other cancer heroes are much more broken than him
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>>148143002
Just pick AA lmao how can lifesteal be real if regen isn't real
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>>148143217

wifestealer gets kited to absolute shit by anyone with a purge or a bkb-piercing disable and has a winrate below 51% in all brackets

literally just pick tb and/or shadow demon for free wins every day of the week. if you can't/won't play those heroes you're a shitter desu
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>>148143394
You mean Slark?
>purge/nuke
>escape/pseudo-stun
>+AGI for every right click
>free fountain heal/you can't right click him
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>>148143267
We are in a perpetual state of dead you fucking retard how new are you? This shitty fucking game was never alive.
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>>148143630
literally every game in existance is dead according to vg
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>>148143623
you mean LITERALLY better lifestealer?
yes
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>>148143781
games were a mistake
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>>148143186
7 games vs lifestealer, all 7 lost due to lifestealer only.

I pick a bm or something, someone picks some other disabler or save, one miscoordinated engage and we lose.
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>3 unwinnable games in a row
Every time I see a tard with a page full of losses on my team I'm dodging from now on.
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>>148144091
maybe your carry should lift his fat fucking ass and hit the enemy supports/lifestealer while hes stunned/chainstunned
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Guys, tell me a carry to first pick every game that I can rise to 4k with
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>>148144220
Yeh so the game relies on lifestealer being chainstunned, correct?

And you're saying that can be done consistently in lower mmr?
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>>148144351
he's so easy to kite though, it's not he's walking around at 522ms one-shotting everything in his path
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HOW IS IT POSSIBLE FOR CENTAUR " PICK ME " WARRUNNER TO OUTFARM EMBER SPIRIT?
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>>148144351
well most games rely on the enemy carry being chainstunned/kited untill bkb runs out no?
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>>148144107
I just had a game where I had to solo off lane with mirana because our doom who said he would offlane decided to afk jungle and get a 15 minute midas

ofc we fucking lost
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>>148144107
>Have pretty evenly matched, long and fun games
>Someone on my team disconnects late game and we lose
I don't even care about mmr anymore. I've realized that games are too often completely out of my hands and mmr therefore indicates nothing and is pointless.
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>>148143630
I haven't played in years.
I'm just here to post Chen anyway.
Also this thread seems very alive compared to ones that last 2-3 days.
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>someone on enemy team first picked arc warden
it's one of you guys isn't it
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>>148143267
WHAT FUCKING DIRECTION IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE
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>triple stack a few jungle camps for our mid TA without being asked because I'm a good support player
>she takes the stacks
>snowballs after getting her early desolator
Feels good to be a good player
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>>148144569
All me
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>>148144795
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>>148144795
Manga are read from right to left
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How butthurt are you retards that reddit is going to get there way again and recieve an IO arcana. They are creating a meme that will be remembered forever and put into the game. Meanwhile you cucks have produced not a single memorable meme (well you have but Reddit stole the good ones and took credit for it) like lmao you pathetic cucks.
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>>148144821
Good for (You).
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LC comic tonight along with hint of Ass Undertaker
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>>148145027
I like IO.
I didn't know reddit liked IO and I really don't give a shit. As far as I'm concerned that just makes them useful idiots for me.
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best 1v9 heroes? (besides am)
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>>148145264
>liking Wisp
>the most cancerous hero that ever existed in the game
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>>148145407
Me taking it up in the ass :3
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>>148141724
ask me how I know you're 2.3k mmr
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>>148145407
timbershit as long as he doesn't have to siege the base

alternatively Techies as long as he isn't outside the base

>>148145491
are you that stupid furfag or the anime faggot? Either way id fuck ur ass with my 8 inch dick ;)
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>tfw barely play
>tfw even then I'm better than 96% of doturds at getting reported

Step up ur shitalk son
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>>148145459
I thought that was techies
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>>148144482
Which game is this? Is it live?
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>>148140721
Okay anon, there will be a genderbender arcana! In fact one for each female hero.
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>>148145654
Techies is garbage thanks to nerfing, meanwhile IO is lolz free double regen effects and turns shit carries into hyper-carries. What a dumb hero concept IO + tony is the most broken thing ever except for maybe Centaur ult with stun.
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>>148144482
Ember didnt want all the farm, cause he didnt have a game to lose.

Simple as that :^)
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>>148141969
>tfw you settle your quarry
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>watching 0001 mmr livestream
>there's a 45 minute witchdoctor whose only items are power treads and bots
>start laughing uncontrollably
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Why is there no global hero?
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http://beyondthesummit.tv/the-summit-5/

>Giving OG a free ticket to the winner finals

lol xd
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>>148145653
>0 abandons

I don't know how everyone else has the patience

time is quite literally money when you're a wageslave
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>tfw 2v5 with a 3 stack with retard timber
>Earth SPirt is a literal god but retard Morph,enigma,timber
>will not stop fucking throwing
>this Morph never listens to my calls
>farm 18 minute blink while buying every ward
>get spammed ping by timber and enigma
>Morphling is like some arab with anime music going on in the background keeps saying "I wanna go back"
>Timber is like some 0500k mmr fucker who keeps screaming "BUILD THE WALL BE A LIBKEK 2016" has shitty death grips tier music going on it the background screams "it goes" while it's happening
>no joke Enigma is either a cuckold or a child
>because I kept hearing "ur so much bigger than ur brother go harder" with muted tears over voip


fuck dota 2 1v5 retard game
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Do support players actively want to support

or

Do they get forced into those roles because they are to Beta to try for a core role?

Also which scenario is more pathetic? I imagine actively wanting to support makes you a bugger cuck honestly.
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>>148146260
Hmm i did not know samsung made mice.
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>>148146219
>Redemption Vote

What was the purpose of this?
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>>148146260
10/10 blog made me drown
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>>148146364
>tfw you set up kills for your core all game and he runs away every time
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>>148146219

>Russian talent
>no v1lat so no v1lat's wife

;_;
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>play dota
>do decent
>team does shit
>1-7 spec insists that our it's entirely her supps fault and AFKs in fountain like the real pros do

FUCK THIS GAY EARTH. WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR PEOPLE TO OPEN UP SCOREBOARD (BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO STUPID TO LOOK IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER), LOOK AT THEIR SCORE AND CS AND COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT THEY ARE FUCKING USELESS JUST FOR ONE FUCKING GAME. GOD.
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>>148146782
>V1lat trusted the jew to be invited
I thought the Russians were smart enough not to fall for their trickery?
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>>148146756
>support stacks ancients
>we don't have any heroes that can farm ancients
>enemy team's gyro/sven/etc takes the big ancient stack
Every time
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HOW THE FUCK ARE WE STILL OVER A MILLIOPN OFF LINAS FUCKING BTICHY FIRE BALLS SO I CAN GET FUCKING 3X 750 POITNS FUCKING JEWBITCH
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Expect to share some laughs because The Summit 5 is going to be a splash!
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Alright alright alright.
I know how we can fix Rubick, I just wonder if this is madman tier.
>Telekenisis stuns longer but lifts for less, making it more useful against the enemy team
>cooldown rescaled from 22 to 20/18/16/14
>Fade Bolt damage to 100/180/260/340 and damage reduction from a flat amount to 25/30/35/40% for 8 seconds
>Null Field from a passive to an actual field Rubick activates for 6/8/10/12 seconds which absorbs 40/80/120/160 magic damage from himself and nearby allies
>Aghs and Spell Steal the same except Aghs also lets Rubick store a standard spell on his D slot and an ult on his F slot
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>>148146846
I hate people that give up. If you want to give up playing half way go play league where they have a surrender button.
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>>148146959
>BUYING
>A
>GOYPENDIUM
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>>148146219
>they only invited like 12 people to cast
lmao money getting tight around BTS
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>>148147062
I agree. Like, I don't give a shit if someone feeds and is terrible, that just makes me sigh and accept that we're most likely going to lose, whatever, big whoop, it's one dota game... But people who have a fucking ATTITUTE about their fucking feeding and THINK that AFKING in FUCKING FOUNTAIN makes them PRO while they complain about their TEAM really annoy me.
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>>148147041
Do you really miss core mid rubick that much?
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>>148147330
He's extremely weak right now. He needs a buff, or a handful of buffs. 2 of these would probably be enough, all 4 would probably be too much.
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>>148147206
"You guys don't deserve to win" is my favorite quote, along with "you're a bunch of 4k shitters"
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Let's predict what the next patch will change

I predict:

New items
Map Changes
Buff to Scan
More gimmick Aghs upgrades
more buffs than nerfs
removal of uam
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>get tired of Dota
>fire up recently purchased PAYDAY 2
>invite a friend
>"wow videogames can be fun"
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>>148147663
fun video games are bad and get boring fast
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>>148146251
I'm a wageslave, I only play ranked/non custom like 2-3 times a month
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>>148146364
support is the most fun role at higher levels of play. however, when you're playing with idiots it's so frustrating and makes you want to kill yourself. you'll have guys who don't want to fight no matter what you do, you try and cc someone and they just run away or don't respond even though you've told them over mic/text/pinging that you are going in.
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>>148147663
Im trying to do this with grim dawn but i swore i'd quit once i get back to 3.5k, fluctuating at 3.45 for 2 days now
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>say i'm going mid in chat
>allies pick retarded heroes, no supports. techies, pa top, ls jungle, tiny insists he can solo bot
>tiny level 1 at 5 minutes
>i died a couple times at mid because the supports rotated into me endlessly
>tiny blames me for everything
i've seen this episode before it's minus 25 mmr. eziest report of my life in tiny and the instant 'action has been taken' made me feel a lot better
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>>148147864
>smoke gank mid
>ping ahead of time to let mid no i am going in
>Stun enemy
>mid player continues last hitting on other side of ramp
>enemy mid just allchats "?"
why are all cores so fucking braindead?
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>>148144492
>chainstunned until bkb runs out
did you draft bane and beastmaster?
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>stack jungle camps for mid
>he pings me to sap exp mid while he farms the camps
Holy shit smart mid players do exist. At what mmr do I find more of these?
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>>148142825
Why does every male dota 2 hero turn out to be full bear mode homo-bait
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Reminder that Carry is the quintessential role and is the embodiment of the heart of Dota

>last hitting
>wave control
>map awareness
>proper item progression
>critical decision making

Carry is the best role to learn what true Dota is.
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I want to hug and pet bounty hunter
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>>148148457
I want to dust bounty hunter and nuke him to death
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>>148148449
>playing creep clicker for 20 minutes
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>>148148732
>playing creep camp stacker for 20 minutes
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>>148148113
the worst are teamfights near rosh when a carry is just farming ancients rather than fighting. makes me want to just ragequit. although playing mid, getting dived and having no tp reactions is nearly as frustrating
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Dotards?
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>Loda
ahah
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>>148149186
CHIMP OUT IN PUBLIC ON STREAM AND FACE THE CONSEQUENCES

BASED VALVE

CAREFUL HE MIGHT BE FLUFF 2.0 THOUGH STAY VIGILANT BROTHERS
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>>148149186
Guess Llama is taking his place
Good. Replace the old white dude with a young mixed-race woman
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>tfw you aggressive trilane and your carry is an account buyer that feeds under tower
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>>148149186
>>148149346
>Reward of SJWism
Punished Nahaz when.
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>>148149186
what was the chimpout? id feel sorry for him if he wasnt an sjw.
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>>148149308
What happen?
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>>148148968
No tp reactions are the worst.
>be offlane, they're diving very far past the t1 tower
>he's the offlaner he doesn't need help
>what's that? You got ganked because you got surrounded by the enemy supports? You're reported
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>>148149470
>>148149468
Nahaz when ABSOLUTE MADMAN over mafia on livestream
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>>148149186
Clearly some realised that meaningful analysis is more enjoyable than mindlessly parroting numbers
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psg's 3k plays can't be contained in 2k low priority
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>>148149470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fBfmPENyK0

NO I AM NOT MAFIA HOW DARE YOU!!!!
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>>148149468
He played Mafia. Not INGAME, not anything like that, not DURING the main airing or anything, not WHILE analyzing, he kind of got a bit mad and shouted that no one trusted him (not much profanity either I think) because everyone were accusing him of being Mafia in a game of Mafia.

So Valve thought, HMM, this game, which is psychologically stressful, and can get really personal at time, which was played at a stream that was literally a fucking "out of dota-hub", caused Nahaz to yell ONCE. That must mean we cannot invite him to TI6!
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>>148149669
hey nahaz
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>>148149668
rofl he turned red as fuck too. this guy. everyone was like "uh oh we have a school shooter on our hands"
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>>148149668
holy shit what a psychopath
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>>148149186
god bless
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>>148149668
>that literally autistic hand beating against chest gesture
>that awkward silence that follows

if i had a gif it'd be
that guy shooting a knowing glance at the camera while adam sessler interviews him at e3 2013.gif
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whats up gulag
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Get hype
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>>148149878
https://youtu.be/zZYxjk1GeXE?t=2h3m31s
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>>148150003
pls no bully
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>>148150003
cucks getting BTFO by manly russians
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>>148149186
Reminder that at ti5 valve literally pulled nahaz off the panel because he's a fucking retard

he bitched on reddit because he got no feedback on why he was pulled of and got a free invite to the majors

glad valve said fuck him for not improving, hopefully sheever got the same fucking treatment
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>>148150213
Hotbid should have let himself get caught and then sued the shit out of Nahaz. I heard Charlie actually has a restraining order put on Nahaz after Shanghai.
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>>148149668
What an idiot
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>>148150429
>Charlie actually has a restraining order put on Nahaz

top fucking kek
>>
Where i can trade untradable but giftable items? I have pipe of dezun, wanna sell it for ~70$
>>
Nahaz did nothing wrong and I will miss having him on the panel. He is genuinely passionate about Dota and that energy always managed to hype me up in turn. Hopefully Valve rethink their decision.
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>he still watches memers on twitch instead of the many 8k players streaming on douyu tv


this is why you are still 4k trash
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So this will be our next community goal

I did some calculations and assuming flying heroes still count their legs and heroes with mounts count all 6 legs and heroes with no legs or stand on tails count as 0 we come to 260 legs for all heroes and since we only have 10 hereos per game we will need to play an average of 4,347,826 matches

Of course it probably won't count flying heroes and mounted heroes will probably only count their mounts legs so if that where the case we would need to play 5,681,818 matches on average
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DOTARDS WHERE IS ALL THE GOOD R34

FOUR YEARS AGO YOU PROMISED ME THERE WOULD BE GOOD R34

WHERE

THE FUCK

IS IT

????????????
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>>148151570
in my pants
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>>148151468
Based autismbro
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>>148151468
SPAM BROOD
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>>148145653
Step up your getting reported by garbage stacks because madcuzbad and no solo queue
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>>148151624
I'll cum and get it then.
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Dotard is...alive?
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>the arrogant solomid turns out to be the worst player in the team
>the "me and X top" group turns out to be the best players in the team
i'm confused
>>
Why do dotards think that Zyori is okay?

How has Zyori not been entirely excluded from everything dota related?
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>>148151570
I have like 8 GB of good R34 but this is a blueboard so not allowed to post it.
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>>148151468
Do illusions count?
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>>148150429
What happened in Shanghai?
Can you actually sue someone under USA jurisdiction over something that happened oversea?
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>>148151947
>>How has Zyori not been entirely excluded from everything dota related?
He pretty much has though?
I can't remember the last time I saw him.
He's practically disappeared since he made memeduck
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>>148152093
Yes.
>>
So whats going on with Nahaz? Where did he chimp out?
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/4sce3a/battle_cup_test_info/

is anyone actually excited for this :3c
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>>148151870
>All Peruvians Universities and School are starting to go in vacations
>Players go up
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>>148152403
>Peruvians can afford vacations
>Peruvians can afford schools

Probably a mud slide on some internet cafe that resulted in the death of +100,000 chimps, nothing was lost and everything was gained
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what the fuck is up with pubs these days ?
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>>148152305
He wanted to cast some game at Summit 5 but LD chose anneedroid over him so he went to her and accused her of being a whore who fucked her way to casting jobs and everything was caught on cam.
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>>148144278
Slark
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I don't even get why people on here are defending Nahaz. He's literally le ddit's guy and his style of trying to sound like a sports show panellist comes off as loud and obnoxious.
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>>148152669
I want Anneedroid to beat me over the face with her enormous chest melons and replace Sheever as the token dota girl because she's leagues better already than any female "talent"
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daily reminder that Nahaz is an SJW because he's unhinged. he's not unhinged because he's an SJW.
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>literal succubus losing against Io because muh ebin memes
Time to always vote against that piece of shit hero then.
>>
Anybody want to form a battle cup team with me?
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>>148152850
kys
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>>148152845
Because it's easy (You)'s?
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Red I know you're reading this , make a dota dating simulator like this
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Thorin announcing his invite to TI6 when?
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>>148153173
someone should make a TA VN where she struggles to discover herself and her gender

It ends with Terrorblade destroying her tower ;)
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>tfw no resident drawfag to draw alpha LC sexually bullying Maiden

why live guys?
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>>148152574
<3 these sick memes
>>
Will this batte cup thing save dota? I feel like if it takes off it should make the game way more enjoyable.
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>>148153612
shut up and pay him stupid NEET people can't just do shit for FREE to satisfy your boner
>>
ARGENTINA ES WHITE
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>>148152669
wheres vod?
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Jesus fucking christ. This place is fucking dead, right? Like focking hell, I've never even SEEN such a dead place before! Might as well post fucking homemade drawings of Necrophos at this fucking point right.
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What is the best way to make an all furry team for the battlecup?
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>>148154081
Go to /trash/ and you'll find plenty of furries.
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>>148154064
We where more dead last couple of days. It's starting to pick up as esports approaches. The worst is yet to come after the post-TI depression kicks in and we have that 2-3 month period waiting for a new patch.
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>>148154081
you could visit /v/eddit
>>
pls do not post anything related to Overwatch it triggers me knowing a new esports monolith is emerging.
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>>148154081
ursa lone druid brewaster centaur beastmaster
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>>148153993
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>>148154557
>blizzard
>new esports monolith
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>>148154583
>centaur
that is not furry it's like monstergirl/boy territory
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>>148153884
your mom is proof to the contrary
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ITS A BOY BIG DICK GRANT CASTING UP IN THIS SUMMIT 5
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>>148154753
Ok fine then add Chen.
>>
>>148154753
>literally a horse-man
>not furry
uhhhh
>>
>>148154697
LMAO HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUNNY

THESE GUYS ARE LIKE SO FUCKING RANDUM AND WACKY

GODMAN MY SIDES HAHAHAH
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>>148152940
As someone new to competitive Dota, I thought his comments on the desk were extremely helpful and interesting and something that kind of helped me through a lot of the desk talks. A shame because it thought having a somewhat older gentleman was extremely beneficial the discussion, in terms of language. Wish they would re consider.
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>>148154853
Centaurs are not furry

they are mythological creatures like minotaur and don't fall into the furry category of things like bipedal dogs

can some professional furry please confirm this?
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>>148154983
Minotaur's can be furry. Depends on what kinda porn you want I mean what kind of setting it is.
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>>148154830
excuse me?
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>>148154697

>T-1000 does the robot

he's not even trying to hide it anymore
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>>148155145
Those are just walking cow people who talk not the same as a Minotaur which has distinct lore on how they should be.

Dragons are also not furry and wanting to fuck one is more like beastiality
>>
Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck isn't he invited? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want Nahaz to be on panel and fix this broken scene. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought he was doing well in Majors???? This is so fucked.
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>>148154697
i made a cut for just the terminator
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>>148155176
>not even trying to hide it anymore
Heh
>>
>>148155434
Jesus Christ it was Kotlguy who started the meme in the first place wasn't it?

What other retards post here anonymously?

I know OD is the Sheever poster.
>>
>check nahaz twitter
>actually got blocked by him
lmao what a fucking garbage bin
>>
>>148155621
>yeah you're not allowed to view my tweets
>but if you log out you can
is twitter the stupidest website?
>>
>>148155687
ppl are very afraid to log out of twitter because of the implications
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>>148155339
Dragons are scaley.

Furry and Scaley are both directly related to sex/porn. Although not all Dragons and Minotaurs that engage in sex are furry, all of them created or used explicitly for sex are furry.
It's like, was this created to make people masturbate, or to show the animalistic, cruel brutal nature of a Minotaur as it rapes a woman to death.
I mean I guess you could get off to that last thing too but yeah.
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>Nahaz won't attend TI6
REDDIT MUST BE IN ABSOLUTE CHAOS RIGHT NOW LOL

THEIR FAVORITE PROFESSOR WHO BROUGHT LEGITIMACY TO MUH VIDEO GAMES FIRED

NORMIES PLS KILL YOURSELVES
>>
I think this is worthy of a WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK kinda reaction.

Nahaz has huge contributions to our scene, lends it professional creditability, and has shown massive improvement in both panel participation and as a host over the last year.

I'm a big Nahaz fan, but even trying to be unbiased this doesn't seem right.

Edit: And IMO he's not replaceable by anyone in the scene, maybe Noxville could but he doesn't do panels. Really curious and mindboggling decision by valve.
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>>148155796
Hey blitzposter can you post all your blitz thanks!
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>>148155758
what implications? that you know where the log out button is?
>>
>>148155889
This exactly, I have the feeling this may be more about behind the scenes stuff though, he's not afraid to speak out against Valve when he feels they've done something badly - e.g. the invites situation, the way they notified the peruvian 322'ers of their bans etc.

From what James said, all it would take is for him to have rubbed one of the higher ups at Valve the wrong way, and they'd be geared against inviting him from the offset.

Nahaz absolutely deserves to be at TI, there's noone who even comes close to his statistical knowledge and enthusiasm for the facts, he's even made strides to tone down the negative aspects of his personality, and has shown improvement at more recent events. I'm really disappointed.
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>>148155621
why do you think he blocked you?
>>
>>148155959
>Nahaz absolutely deserves to be at TI, there's noone who even comes close to his statistical knowledge and enthusiasm for the facts,
>noone
You mean alohadance?
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>>148156036
oh shit he blocked me too. lol wtf? ive never even said anything to him. he must be using one of those sjw blocklists to block all "problematic" people.
>>
>give EGM a hero that can't make big plays
>lose
hmmm
>>
This exactly, I have the feeling this may be more about behind the scenes stuff though, he's not afraid to speak out against Valve when he feels they've done something badly - e.g. the invites situation, the way they notified the peruvian 322'ers of their bans etc.

From what James said, all it would take is for him to have rubbed one of the higher ups at Valve the wrong way, and they'd be geared against inviting him from the offset.

Nahaz absolutely deserves to be at TI, there's noone who even comes close to his statistical knowledge and enthusiasm for the facts, he's even made strides to tone down the negative aspects of his personality, and has shown improvement at more recent events. I'm really disappointed.
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>nahaz trying to pull a kotlguy before TI
>valve won't care even reddit complains
Based valve
>>
>llama will be invited to ti6 over grant

why live
>>
Has /d2g/ officially turned into Reddit now?
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>>148156312
sauce
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>>148153393
>It ends with Terrorblade destroying her tower ;)
>>
HAHA guys look I'm ctrl + c/v reddit posts aren't i cool?
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>>148156312
uhh no?
grant got himself on the big boys league already, he is even going to the summit, anne got herself in the zyori circlejerk, if anything shes becoming durka/lumi level, but she is good, actually
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>>148155889
>>148155959
A team would be foolish not to snap him up to help as a coach.

I wouldnt be surprised at all to see it happen and it would be a massive boon to whoever does imho.
>>
Techies aghs:
Suicide has a 600 range charge ability now
On death: techies drops 6 random mines
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>>148156383
[memearrow post with the word now]
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>>148155769
well shit guess im a furry then
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>>148156490
>On death: techies drops 6 random mines
MAKE IT HAPPEN
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>>148156312
Grant will cast the all star match screencap this
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>>148156383
>now

people posting r****t links havent been banned and told to kill themselves for years
>>
Is there enough time before TI to buy a goypendium and recalibrate my MMR? I'm stuck in 1.7k nightmare gulag
>>
Wait so is Blitz never going to cast again? Is he perma-coach now? I mean he gets kinda annoying but he was one of the better casters we had.
>>
>>148156728
the internatinoal ranked is actually worse than regular. dont even bother. after this battle pass shit is over im never playing anything except captains or random on ranked every again.
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>>148156753
I agreed, blitz has one of the best game senses about hyper carries achieving their win condition by controlling the tempo.
>>
>>148156312
Maximum salt to thw wound if that happens o Nahaz
>Be SJW
>Get your TI spot taken by a races mixed ausie lesbo.
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John Connor... it is time.
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>>148157223
I hope you host TI6 fuck that Brit
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>>148157312
dude you know im not REALLY dakota though right?
',:^)
>>
>>148157378
yeah I know no one would ever find this secret club ;;;;;)
>>
I used to be able to watch our meme boy and anime boy at panda tv without any issues. Now the fucking site keeps buffering every other second.

Every stream on twitch is just a russian viewbotter. dead game
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IT'S HAPPENING
>IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
>IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
>IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
>IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
>IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
>IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
>IT'S HAPPENING
IT'S HAPPENING
>IT'S HAPPENING
>>
>>148156289
guy's old as fuck, who analyses dota in their 60's lmao
>>
>>148157853
made me open the blog, good one
>>
>>148154876
redeye is there and is 100x more valuable than nahaz. literally the most valuable/best dota personality by a mile.
>>
>>148157951

https://twitter.com/wykrhm/status/752600284296155136

IT'S REAL
>>
>>148154697
Who's the fat cunt at 0:4?
>>
>>148158202
me
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>>148157378
If this post ends in 7 you are the one and only T-1000, Dakota Cox
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>>148158068
>>148157853
next level wyk shitposting
>>
>>148158068
Who
>>
>>148143623
52% sub 2k winrate

48% 5k+ winrate

MUH SLARK OP
>>
>>148158467

>being this new
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/4scuk1/dota_2_update_test_client_july_11_2016/

ONE
POINT
FIVE


GIGABYTES OF UPDATE
>>
2 YEARS FOR UNDERLORD WHO WILL NEVER BE PICKED IN PRO DOTA.


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
>>
www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
>www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
>www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
>www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
>www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
>www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
>www.dota2.com/abyssalunderlord
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>>148158673
he's just called underlord now you fucking cuck
>>
INB4 PITLORD PLAYABLE ONLY BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE LC QUEST PATH COMPLETED FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS
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>>148158569
I literally, literally, do not care about any dota celeb or dota related person and do not keep up with them, so again, who is this guy, why is he an authority?
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Guys why do I have a feeling that there'll be a sfm animation about LC army witnessing the ruins of stonehall after getting annihilated by pitlord?
>>
>>148158914

Close ties to Valve, literally always the first guy who releases new stuff, sometimes even seconds before the blog posts go up

looks like all we get is a teaser image and no blog post tonight though, what a tease
>>
>>148158914
He's the random person to whom valve offload all their shit they should use a pr department for but can't be fucked.
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>>148158914
poo in the loo reddit valve man
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>>148159029
Also immortal garden terrain is stonehall right?
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>>148159053
whykrm works for valve now. that is literally THE real underlord tease.
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>>148158914
>"waaah spoon feed me waah"

fuck of cuck shitter go do something worthwhile for once in you fucking disastrous life
>>
>>148158914
he's the dota 2 blog dude
>>
>UNDERLORD
>OFFICIALLY HAPPENING
Meh, he's interesting, won't be seen in pro dota because he won't be in captains mode, and won't be picked very often in pubs outside of his 2 week popularity spike....
>>
>>148159426
he's not happening, the update is a beta for some tourney shit
>>
>somebody links a cyborgfuck tweet
>somehow he blocked me too like nahaz
these fucking retards are out to get me I'm sure
>>
>>148159342
>""""sleeper"""""op
>moon plays it like every pro game
ah yes
>>
>>148159426
DESU they have been hyping this shit up for so long now, this is like the second battle pass to have a hint like this.

There has got to be more attached to this than just a single hero release..
>>
>>148159550
In pubs. I also don't watch pro dota, so that's nice.

but please unlive yourself my man
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>>148159589
will be an event/new game mode like wraith night.
>>
everybody ready for a 28% hero winrate for underlord ? unless they reworked him (which wouldn't surprise me) he's gonna suck ass really hard
>>
>no nahaz at TI6
BASED VALVE
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>>148159673
>playing the game
Neck yourself
>>
>>148159053
>>148159068
>>148159134
>>148159158
>>148159192
Ok cool so Underlord soon.
I wonder how reworked he is.
>>
>>148159778
What's not to like about fixed matchmaking?
>>
>>148159673
Just because you stick your head in the sand doesn't mean things don't happen around you.

Like batrider being a fundamentally good hero since the dawn of time.
>>
>>148159760
>anee and llama instead
>based
>>
>>148159881
wheres a sauce for all the people at TI
>>
nahaz isn't going to be at TI panel? Really disappointed that valve didn't invite him. He brought an air of legitimacy to esports and was very intelligent with his math based analaysis. hope that social media will be able to pressure valve into inviting him
>>
Daily reminder there is a custom game available on Arcade that allows you to play a very basic version of Underlord (no spell effects, icons, hero icons, sounds)

However, the spells are functional.
>>
>>148159795
P
S
G
HERE FAHMULEE

as i said last night i am 100% sure his passive was completely removed or reworked. instead it's a skill that now makes the ENEMY lane push instead of your lane.

If I am wrong (about the skill being reworked period, not about exactly how it was reworked) I will give away 6 item sets from the new chest.
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>>148160010
He got mad during a game of mafia in the BTS hub, so he can't come to TI6. His rage lasted for about 10 seconds, so this is definitely going to hinder him, so he definitely can't work at TI6.
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>>148159851
Jesus christ anon.
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>>148160101
if they haven't reworked him he's gonna be dumpster 30% WR in pubs
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>>148155924
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>>148157853
That looks like more like viper and visage's lovechild than underlord desu
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>SMITE releases like 4 unique heroes in 2 months
>Dota takes a year and a half for one

Why?
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>>148160139
Dude I went to bed and woke up and now it's like 5 hours later how are you still awake go to bed famalamadingdong.
>>
>>148160139
If repeating integers I get the items
>>
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>>148160219
danke
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>Green eyes, green flame

interesting. Underlord is a "nether" being like pugna and viper, not a demonic one like doom shadow demon SF
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>>148160283

Three reasons:

1) Valve is the laziest company ever

2) Dota elitists believe DOTA2 is already "perfect" and are content with no new heroes.

3) New heroes don't make Valve any money, so why would they do it?
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>>148160283
As someone that's played a lot of smite, it's because smite's heroes are universally boring as fuck.
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>>148160283
About the same rate as newly released heroes in HoN, and that game died because too many gimmicky piece of shit heroes were released too frequently.
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>>148160283
Woah don't be entitled , TI2 just ended.
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>>148160149
Nahaz is an ass, and we wont be working with him again.
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>>148160379
maybe he will be a loli as well
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>>148160287
i went to bed too nigga wtf? i just got nothing to do today. no work this week, seeing louis ck on friday!!!!!!!!! :DD
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>>148160283
>play smite
>literally every hero I tried has 4 skillshot nukes

Agni was fun though
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>>148160283
1. It's a beta
2. They'll fix it
3. That's all there is to it.
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>>148160139
his current passive is an aura that reduces the attack of enemy units within range. If they die while they are debuffed, Underlord gains damage based on the level of his aura
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>>148160475
Yes, you are right. An already designed hero should take one and a half year to be released.

It's fucking moronic that all heroes wasnt released 2 years ago when the game went out of beta.
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>>148160548
literally every hero is "we lol now" though

the best they could do were chronos, janus and khepri's absurd ult
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>>148160720
underlord as he is is a melee hero that's not played as a core generally
ie he fucking sucks
see ogre magi and omniknight, and these two have actual utility unlike underlord
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>>148160720
.....yes which makes your wave push

what i'm saying is he's going to get a passive which makes the ENEMY lane push, which is what you want to happen in dota in most cirucmstances. otherwise the hero is a trash laner, dark seer already exists to be a lane pushing hero
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>>148160764
I'd say the new heroes are pretty unique. Ratatuskr got reworked for the worse though.
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So is Underlord going to be meta, when he hits? This passive would make him a goddamn terror as an offlaner. It's like fucking Tide with late game.
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>>148160901
>It's like fucking Tide with late game.
oh yeah I forgot he has two ravages
oh wait no he only has a fucking mass relocate and some garbage AoE
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>>148160859
dark seer doesn't have a 5-man global tp
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Does this apply to DOTA?
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>>148160764
>literally every hero is "we lol now" though
how is that different than what I said
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>>148160987
>he grants global presence for his entire team and a 900-range aura that's "slightly" worse than the damage reduction from anchor
>not better lategame than "buy a bkb: the spell"
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>>148161121
no because skill actually matters in dota and other FPS unlike fucking overwatch
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>>148160761
My point was that releasing completely new heroes at such a rate will kill any moba.

You're right about pit lord, but in my opinion i never want to see him released. Anyone who's played dota know's how fucking annoying he is throughout the entire game. Especially being able to move his entire team to any lane in the late game.
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>>148161121
That's just not true though.
I'd imagine he feels trash after losing a game over Overwatch because it's such a low skill game there's really no excuse for playing badly.
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>>148161192
>global presence with a huge delay and backdoor protection being a thing is good to have
heh, kid
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>>148161272
then why do people with 500 MMR and 2.5k MMR play almost exactly the same way?
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>>148161364
>500 mmr and 2.5k mmr play exactly the same way

thats quite the statement anon
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>>148161121
If you're absurdly high mmr it's probably possible to maintain a 98+% winrate below 4k so no it doesn't if you git gud enough.
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>>148161238
I recall him being a trashcan farm vacumm that took ALL the farm and proceded to be a useless fuck. Like ember but without carry potential.
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>>148161364
because both of those MMRs are under the criticality point where you need to actually be better to advance.

as someone who has spent a lot of time sub 3k i can tell you that 2500 and 500 are not similar. From the perspective of like a 5k you can say "both players are trash"

but 500 mmr players do shit like open the shop and stand there for 30 seconds while creeps hit them. 2.5k players are better than you think these days-- they all watch pro and shit. everyone does.
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Ogre aghs:
Multicast has a 600 range aoe component, allows allies to multicast targeted abilities
15/20/25 change to 2x
0/0/5 chance to 3x
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>>148161471
>98+% winrate
impossible
85-90% maybe but 98% is lose 1 game every 50 games
I don't see that happening with people feeding couriers, or leaving, or whatever, which are way too common
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>>148161364
because low mmr is filled with smurfs that aren't truly 500mmr

the people that really deserve that 3 digit mmr are so fucking retarded they make 2ks look like sensible, competent players
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>>148161528
>multicast black hole
ah yes
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>>148161325
Oh believe me people have no grasp on how to play that game well. I ranked at 69 on day two which was top 100, and you need to maintain a 65%+ winrate to climb in that game. And even that is snail pace. All the highly ranked players just 6 stick because that's the only way to maintain your rank, and there's no difference between solo queueing and 6 stacking.
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>>148161528
>3x multicast lion's aghs finger
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>>148161192
lul

it's aoe boots of travel that only works on AI creeps
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>>148161560
Depends on the MMR difference. I honestly think a 7k can play 50 games in 2k bracket and win 49 of them.

upper 3k bracket id say 90~% is alot more reasonable.
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>>148161831
yeah without aghs it is.
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>>148157853
>heroes fighting in the middle of a battleground
>suddenly a rain of fire
>the ground shakes
>on the top of a mountain, they see a figure
>suddenly, a voice speaks in their minds
>"FOR THE ABYSS I COME"
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>>148161725
>>148161798
>extra damage for supports
>bad
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>mfw Valvebro was right again
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>>148162116
you forgot to add
>cum everywhere

at the end
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>>148161927
my booster said he was 6.3k (this was some time ago, he was a top10 player in EU east with those type of stats and possibly a pro)

He won like 90% of games. There are games in 2k that a top 100 player in the world cannot carry.

I wish I had recorded/streamed more of it, the guy was absolutely insane. Sure it was like playing against easy bots for him, but i leanred so much about efficiency and whatnot

he would desperately try to die to creeps whenever possible, he would use tree cuts like a madman and knew where to tango to make new cuts anywhere on the map. just remarkable efficiency.
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>>148161528
>multicasting midnight pulse
Epic
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>>148162273
no such thing as a valvebro senpai
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>>148161121
No. There's already been extensive research and spread sheeting into this, and you witness it with account buyers all the time (2k's who buy a 4k+ account invariably get dropped down to their proper mmr).
The only thing I hate is that every loss and win is judged equally (with a +/-3 mmr tolerance). Carrying a flaming mass of dumbfuck up the mountain as a mid out-stripes being unable to carry another mass as a support. It's fucking nonsense to imply otherwise.
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>>148162315
no
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>>148162315
yes. experiences, especially in the prime of your life, cannot be replaced by anything else

TI6 could easily be the best TI of all time, teams are strong, teams have coaches, teams have better strats, teams want it more, there is more money etc...i would die to go

if you guys ever see a guy with a shirt saying PSG did nothing wrong, it'll be me.
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>>148162315
I went to TI4, even though the gooks ruined the games it was a lot of fun. Make bank in the secret shop, watch some dota, hang out with people and seeing your favorite teams play on set.
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>>148162390
of course not ;)
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>>148162315
Why would you do that when you could stay at home and drop all of that on 10 or so really high quality dota porn commissions?
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>>148162390
there was though
you werent here when he leaked patch notes
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>>148161364
I just want to say this, I have a friend that's 2.8k and he's got a 800mmr friend, I watched some of his games out of curiosity and it went like is

>Picked riki
>bought 4 salves and a branch
>clicked lane
>literally stood there until the creeps clashed
>clicked a creep
>clicked enemy hero
>lost 50% hp
>went back a bit
>stood still for 2 minutes
>died to enemy team rightclicking him

one match a medusa dced his games and he tried to feed her(He might just wanted to fight them with the medusa fuck if I know).

While my 2.8k buddy usually buys recomended items and follows guides from the guide button thingy in the top left to the word and tries his best to follow them.

You have no idea what sub 1k is man, it's like LPQ and the scum of the world combined.
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>>148162403
If I calibrate below 1k, should I uninstall the game? Will matches just be a waste of time for me?
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>>148162581
been here several years, no such thing as a valvebro, it's always fucking memers being epic
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>>148161831
It's exactly what I called it. People use to praise specter as the hardest carry purely because she could push out lanes and still be at the fight (even though this has been possible for every carry for the longest time, ck included).

This is an offlaner who can provide that kind of map control to his entire team.
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>>148162516
Excellent post
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>>148162739
several years =/= all the time i suppose

Valve leaked tons of things, i believe him
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>>148162315
i would if i had money/time
if you are young you should try to get as much experiences as you can
don't expect to much ,just try to have fun
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>>148162703
Below 1k, your matches won't actually be genuine, there will be smurfs, goofsters and gafsters. But if you're legit playing vs 5 actual sub 1ks, you'll win singlehandedly. Literally, singlehandedly win teamfights, singlehandedly pushing all the buildings, and that's it.
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>>148162403
You're actually completely wrong

Even if you get boosted by like 2k mmr it's still entirely possible to win close to 50% of your games. even if you don't belong.

reminder that i got boosted for 1350 unranked MMR and polled d2g, over 80% of whom said i would lose more than 60% of my next 60 games.

I won 46% of my next 50 games and it would've been over 50% but I played 9 games in a row trying to end the experiment and lost like 7 of them.
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>>148162460

Thing is I'm 30 and I don't play DotA much. I just enjoy watching the pro scene. Also who, or what, is PSG?

>>148162497

Make bank? How? Also glad to hear you had fun at TI4. Makes my interest grow stronger for TI6.

>>148162516

If someone does really good SFM DotA porn I would highly consider it spending money on it.

>>148162856
I'm 30. Probably not young, but I can still have fun with Old Man Fear. :^)
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>>148162608
>4 salves and a branch
Isn't this what you're supposed to start with with 95% of the roster in Dota?
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going to spam mid tb in ranked

What should I be mindful of?
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Im going to play Abysal Underlord every game every day!
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>>148162703
You shouldn't calibrate below 1k if you have 2 competent hands and a basic understanding of dota and the heroes you want to play
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>>148162703
Depends on if you can read guides and start examining your mistakes or not.
If you're THAT fucking low though, I'll give you a tip. You can easily climb to 2.7k with undying. No one in your bracket understands what he does or why it's extremely dangerous to let him get multiple decay stacks off of a single cast.
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>>148162923
What are some good carries to do this with? I've been trying memepush heroes like Terror and Lycan, but games have been pretty hit or miss.
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>>148162923
there are no smurfs at sub 1k.

you get put in a ~3k match the first time you start dota if you click i've played dota before.

smurf detection system will put you in VHS after 1 game if you have high damage/kda etc. I've done it twice
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>people shitting on pitlord because muh competitive
When is this meme gonna end
oh yeah i forgot people here dont like dota
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>>148163168
he's gonna be even worse in pubs
see io winrate but worse
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>>148163075
Alch
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>>148163120

I tried doing that with CSGO for a long time, but it never netted me much profit. I'm really considering going to TI now. Problem is I have no friends and no girlfriend, so I'd be going all by myself and being ronry.
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>>148162927
What was your initial mmr?
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>>148163226
Who cares what other people do, im gonna play him in pubs with my friends and since i played him a lot in dota 1 i have experience in his build and lanes
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>>148163053
Terrorblade is terrible, especially if you run him mid. there's nothing this hero can do that cant be done by SF or even drow
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>>148163226
who cares
the only reason valve doesn't release him is because afterwards they will have literally zero things to show they still """care""" about the game except releasing shitty patch notes and even shittier immortals
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When will this timber/ls/terror meta end?
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>>148163075
Someone who can snowball both through both teamfights and pickoffs, as well as push. For example Tiny, ez mmr on low mmr, Sven, great at pickoffs and teamfighting, but forget going hard supports. Buy wards yourself, your allies won't use them, but you have good usage of them. Riki also works pretty well, but his push is so awful, and at sub 1k, you will literally not be able to group up your team to hit a structure even right after a teamwipe.

In short, good teamfight/pusher and pickoff heroes who can go late (important because games usually go late since everyone is awful and can't end games), such as Sven, Tiny, Lycan, Clinkz, maybe Riki, Alchemist, Anti-Mage if you're good enough to get a nice lane, etc. Remember, you won't go anywhere if you actually DESERVE low mmr.

My tip is, you have ZERO control over your teammates until you reach around 3k, where people MIGHT listen to a calm call made by the best player on the team. Until then, mute everyone, and play your own game. You do not flame, you do not feed, you simply look at your mistakes and such through replays, try to improve actively, and learn different heroes.

Also spam FOTM cancer like LS and Timber.
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>>148163328
I went with my bf , but it would definitely still had been fun just going alone. There were a lot of cool people to discuss the games with between matches, so i don't think it'd feel very lonely. A lot of them smelled like shit and were clearly redditors though, but it wasn't too bad.
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>>148163053
>>148163604
Can someone give me fucking Terrorblade mid tips? I even posted a bait reply but no one responded.
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>>148163652
>timber
Nerf passive.
>ls
Nerf armlet
>Terror
dumpster him.
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>>148163889
Start iron talon+tangoes

Inform a random teammate of your choice that they are now the midlaner

afk jungle
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>>148163454
it was unranked, approximately 1900 to 3200.
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>>148148847
>not playing roaming position 4 Bounty or Earth Spirit
>not making space for 20 minutes

ha
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>>148163786

I see I see. I'll keep thinking about it. Problem is the hotel rates are ridiculous. I wish I could go with others to share the hotel fees -- cheapest in the area is close to $250/night.
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What do I do with my life until TI?
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>>148164262
cryogenic sleep
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>>148164238
>not playing every single role
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>>148163652
do people actually have problems with those heroes?
Timber literally is not a big deal, only reason to get picked mid is to shit on alch pickers
LS can still be kited around, did you people forgot how to kite him?
And terrorblade is a squishy piece of shit who does to two nukes
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>>148163652
>tfw no perfect night vision to stalk luna 24/7
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>>148149973
>that guy shooting a knowing glance at the camera while adam sessler interviews him at e3 2013.gif

What was this?
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>>148164449
who gives a shit you sad fuck
watching streamers is boring as fuck, either play the game or watch actual pro games with stakes, but watching memers play pubs is trash
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>>148164449
/lil_hardy is alright
>>
Redpill me on Arc Warden
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>>148164449
yapz0r is streaming right fucking now
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>>148164449
>all the best streamers are top pros
hmm, I wonder if there could be an event coming up that keeps all the pro's from regularly streaming fir a while?
No clue where the trash like waga is though, did he get picked up as a coach?
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>>148164112
Anything below 4k is completely arbitrary. It's treated as the mechanics and basic game sense graduation point.
When you play in 2k/3k; people are playing the game more slowly and passively. They don't like taking initiative, and they hesitate way too much. They'll walk to a creep wave half-way, pause when they realize that they can't actually see anything on the map, then start walking around in circles and pinging everyone. win/lose is entirely up to chance at this level of play. Simply taking the first major team fight is enough to exacerbate the other team's hesitation and possibly drive them to infighting. They get this attitude of "that didn't work out, I'm going to go farm and not even worry about anything else happening on the map, because that's effort and I just want out of this game."

There's another experiment that reddit did, where it pit 2k players against 5k players. The differences in how they played were obvious from the numbers alone.
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>>148164768
>did he get picked up as a coach?
Why the fuck would anyone want him as a coach? He even tried playing competitive but got completely trashed. He's just a glorified pubstomper that's now part of the competitive circlejerk.
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>>148164601

Supreme cancer mid. Useless literally anywhere else.
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>>148164601
>one of the hardest carries in the game
>able to itemise against pretty much any hero viably
>able to solokill heroes with literally 0 risk
>absurd nuke damage 6-11
>incredible highground defense/offense spell
>viable support or carry or mid
>able to adapt to almost any playstyle
>massive amounts of free gold for bants
>his hardest counters are meepo and lone druid
>fun as fuck to play
>massively unfun and tilting to play against
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>>148164601
If you can micro hes pretty good at supporting, his skills are very good
>>
how much damage does one exactly need to last hit a ranged creep through tower hits in the early game? how much damage to hit it once, wait 2 tower hits and finish it off? what about catapults?
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>>148165186
about 75 damage I think for ranged
siege creep is impossible to last hit under tower
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>>148164449
helmetofcheese is the only non-viewbotting non-stale pro that i like watching. He's fairly good and entertaining.
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>>148164935
sounds a lot like synderen
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So does this mean LC stuff is coming soon to or will they break up the content?
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>>148160283
>Dota takes a year and a half for one

Yeah, when its the last hero and the roster is full and Valve has more important things to do, like make hats.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Heroes_by_release
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>>148165269
At least Synderen actually plays competitive and has experience with it.
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>>148165186
range creeps
>hit once
>let the tower hit twice
>hit last
assuming full hp and around 40/80 damage
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>>148162608
how do you know what items to start with? All the guides say tangos and branch.
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>>148165269
?
Synds the opposite actually. He's a pretty bad individual player but he's great on a team.
I would in no way call synd a pubstomper, he's only just 6k trash last I heard
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>>148165287
Gotta spend all year making immortals for the seasonal TIs now I guess.
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how do you stack mid camps on radiant now?
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Thank God Nahaz isn't going to TI
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>>148164601
Broken and unfun
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>>148165457
don't be shit and learn to count
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>>148165443
he's mid 7k now

still absolute trash in pubs though
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>>148165385
Pretty sure hitting it once with 80 damage makes it impossible to get, unless you can hit it 2 more times. That's why you drop your quelling for the first hit, when you're csing under tower.
>>
Reminder that when Pit Lord is released at that point the game will be COMPLETE and any "MUH HEROES" shitposting is 100% lolbabby or HoNtrash refugee and to report the posts mercilessly.

I mean its mostly them anyway but there will be 0 doubt after that point.
>>
>2 minutes to patch
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>>148165498
I'm pretty sure the entire point of dota is to crush enemies and make them have no fun at all?

arc warden is literally the perfect dota hero, super op and makes the enemy team want to kill themselves
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ITS FUCKING HAPPENING EVERYBODY PANIC WE ARE ABOUT TO GET CONTENT FOR OUR GAME
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>>148165568
But if you need to drop your quelling then it means you could have just killed it in 1 hit after 2 tower hits
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>>148165541
Does anyone actually care about mmr anymore? The inflation is way out of hand now and unless you play 8h a day you will never have a chance gaining a high mmr .
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w-wait is Pit Lord coming out tonight?????
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>>148165914
No, but baldy is streaming ranked right now, so...
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>>148144482
centaur has a 5 sec 400 aoe dmg nuke which only tickles him if he has hood/pipe, and mid/lategame all towers and creeps take 50-100 dmg everytime they attack him
its not surprising at all really
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>>148165494
Llama will take his place :^^^^^^^)
So Progressive
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>>148165765
hey blitzposter why dont you pull out your REALLY special blitz posts
you know, for an old fans sake
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>>148166202
?
I'd put good money on Llama not being invited.
Did you not see how badly she was received on reddit during the qualifiers?
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>>148157853
N-NANI?!?
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>>148166260
get your own kid
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>>148166342
>did you not see [...] on reddit
fuck right off
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>>148166427
keep em coming
>>
does anyone have a really old pic of LD, like back when he had hair?
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>>148166202
TI6 is gonna be a real ovaryfest with lots of TALENT
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>>148166456
But Valve listens and caters their game according to what Reddit thinks about Dota.
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>>148165271
>tfw no lean black waifu
>>
Anybody else remember this from last TI? If only TI6 can live up to this hype and build these memories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFc49W0LsGU
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>tfw pushed to win a 4v5 after these pick offs
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>>148166745
>being a race traitor

?
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>>148166813
it was a good echo and ice blast (actually without the iceblast the echo does nothing), but all the blame was on the chinese for being so fucking dumb
>>
>start a match of dota 2
>guy starts shittalking at 0 minutes
>decides Kunkka is a better mid than TA and goes 0/5
>teamates spend enough time arguing in fountain that one of them gets an abandon
>enemy team would rather fountain farm than just end the game
>lucky game is safe to leave

Fun game you got here dotards
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>>148166992
what makes you think any whites play this game literally designed for non-human non-whites?
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>>148167090
slavs do and despite all their faults, slavs > niggers
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>>148166992
>implying there can't be any black ppl on this board
?
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>>148167219
do you sincerely believe that slavs are white?
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>>148167301
no
read my post again

>>148167274
>black
>people

?
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How many % of the Dota players and viewers are Russians? I would guess something around 60%
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>>148166729
Then, why Nahaz isn't invited
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>>148167274
dinosauri?
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>>148167438
The last even he was at he got all up in Brunos face complaining about the chairs or something. It was some real R Lewis shit. He's gonna be blacklisted from valve events for the near future
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>>148167459
i might b old but im not a dinosaur yet
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Envy picked razor against naix

why?
what if his epic linking of him wont work, is the teamfight auto lost then since your carry hero does fucking nothing?

razor is literally "carry once every 30s unless the link is broken then dont carry at all" why would you ever willingly pick him
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>>148168016
i can see their bras...
dota heroes wear no bras...

...
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>>148168128
kill yourself
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>>148167973
Envy is 8k

You're probably some 3k shitter

Know your place
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>team comp should mean easy win
>bet 500 tokens
>we are winning 8/2
>16 minutes in teammate decides to go AFK
>game is now safe to leave
>team leaves despite being 14/3 at that point and enemy being 3 towers down
>500 tokens gone

why no token refunds if your team abandons?
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you guys like dota 2
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>>148168413
hey jacky wached any moeshit lately
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>>148168413

Every anon ITT is higher MMR than EE
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>>148167973
Because razor is good against naix
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>>148168609
>hey bro we are losing abandon so i keep le points xd

the same reason why there is no mmr refund
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>>148168795
hes MAYBE good against naix once eveyr 30 seconds
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okay someone fucking tell me why secret sold out to pandatv

I thought the whole point of secret was to not deal with stupid sponsor bullshit?

they must be paying the turk like 50mil
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>>148168965
no, hes good against naix
quit your naix overrate
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>>148169265
>razor starts stealing damage
>naix uses rage
???
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>Nahaz cries on twitter for sympathy points and community outrage
>everyone on reddit agrees he doesn't deserve one

my sides
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>>148169265
no

no hes not becuase pressing link on naix doesnt guarantee shit

there are countless ways to make that not work and there is not a single way to make that always work

dota is not some 1v1 vacuum like you retards seem to think
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>>148168830
this
basically something something abuse
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>>148169126

They don't even get chinese views, it's some secret Turkish oil laundering operation
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>winning all game, cautious slow game
>get aegis, stop 4 attempts to push our highground
>lose beacuse Sven got a double crit and his cleave is apparently a 180 degrees wide and 800 radius long because I fucking died while standing beside him

Nice game doturds. Why is cleave pure damage?
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If I start streaming dota and even want to have a chance getting viewers, how many viewbots should I start out buying, would around 50 be enough for people to start noticing me
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>>148169413
oh right you were baiting

>>148169475
oh, and you think you are not doing the vacuum shit?
What if i told you naix is MAYBE good against magic nukers?
what if i told you naix is MAYBE good against high HP heroes?
what i wrote was "razor is good against naix", not "naix is useless against razor"
Go fucking kill yourself
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>>148169573
its not
the site is owned by a son of a chink billionaire just like half chinese teams

they just waste money on things they like becuase they can waste money without caring, just like the turk in the west
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>envy chokes as usual
>get mad and turn off the Stream
who'd guess
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>>148169673
>posting KDA's like they mean jack shit
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>>148169773
Sven was 2/4/7 until 3 minutes before that game ended.
Fucking cleave is stupid as shit. It's literally just a % of your attack damage as pure damage, why isn't it actually reduced by armor despite being based on a physical attack? Or at the very least, a % of the damage actually done. Sven literally does more damage to people he's not directly attacking if they have more than 60% armor.
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>>148169673
>>148169949
t. normal skill poster
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/124155608
please leave
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>>148169442
> not wanting lina's number
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>>148169673

>not hiding match ID

Is this a bait post?
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>>148169949
>KDA without lasthits on a core
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How did this Kotlguy being Terminator thing start.

I don't get the ebin maymee
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>>148169673
>the sven has over 2k games, with a 48% wr and is still in normal skill
How is this possible?
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>>148170084
Did I say anything that wasn't true?
Cleave completely ignores resistances. It's an arbitrary mechanic that doesn't make any sense. For some reason it still gets reduced by damage block despite normally ignoring armor.
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>>148166886
>when your carries are mirana and qop of pain
what an accomplishment
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>>148170445
QoP is a great carry on sub 30 minute games.
Mirana is ok until about 40 minutes and/or the enemy team buys bkbs or blademail.
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>>148170324
Because he's an emotionless autist?
He's only come so far because he's vaguely attractive, everything else about him is just wrong.
Does anyone have the webm where the camera man zooms in and out on his cold dead eyes?
I think it was from a tournament around TI5 or something.
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ee should get bloodthorne
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well this battle cup shit is just like my pubs
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>>148170374
what does damage block and armor have in common?
its not weird at all
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>>148170374

Cleave is pure damage because it already checks the armor type of the unit hit. If it wasn't pure it would also be further reduced by the armor value of the cleaved target

So that it isn't reduced twice by armor checks.
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>>148170660
didnt they say that theres literally no matchmaking at all and everyone is just thrown together of skill bracket in the test run?
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>>148170324
hes not a terminator but a casting golem LD created using jewish magic because he didnt want to pay someone
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>>148170595
>vs tinker pl and dazzle
>expecting sub 40 minutes
lyl
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>>148170757
And why isn't it reduced?
It's a physical attack that deals pure damage in an aoe. Why isn't it a physical attack that deals physical damage in an aoe?
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>>148170445
qop and mirana are BAE
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>>148170989
why is one hero moving slower and another faster?
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>>148170989
Why are you being such a little bitch about one loss where you and you're team played fucking horribly?
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>>148170989
>It's a physical attack that deals pure damage in an aoe.
Yes

>Why isn't it a physical attack that deals physical damage in an aoe?
I literally just told you. It's already reduced by the target it hits. Having a second armor check after that would make the damage multiplier completely shit.

And except for PA, the initial target and cleaved secondaries have to be in melee and cleave range. You have to earn your way into getting cleaved.
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>>148159342
sauce on the image?
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>tfw having a good game as dark seer
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>>148170595
>QoP
>great at anything
>practically ignored in pro dota, a complete wash in pubs.
It's easy to understand why she's so bad too. Let's look at what mids need to take aggressive initiative.
>Storm and Zeus; levels and a bottle.
>Tinker; bots, possibly a blink (which he can farm really fucking fast from the jungle)
> Windrunner, maelstrom
>shadowfiend; euls or a shadowblade
>invoker; levels
And Qop? A fucking orchid, the most expensive mid-game item, with an upgrade that's really negligible in most situations. She use to be the queen of mid, because dagger use to let her run heroes out of lane, but that was back when you still had melee mids like Night Stalker, Tiny, and Nyx. Now strike is just a limp dick that's not going to scare anything but a pudge and (maybe) a Storm Spirit.
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>>148171123
Because if heroes with multiple or strong disables were also fast that would be overpowered. Fast heroes are reserved for lighter disables and carries, generally melee heroes are faster and ranged are slower to help balance the fact ranged heroes can attack first.


Cleave is pure damage because _____.

>>148171287
It's free damage, why shouldn't it be inefficient? It's just frustrating that when you fight Sven, or a BF carrier in general, armor is borderline irrelevant.
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>>148171287
Are you stupid? Cleave damage is entirely independant on the attacked targets armor.

6 platemail axe takes 22 damage. The target behind him, also with 6 platemails, takes 66 damage.
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>>148170757
>it checks the armor of the unit hit
b8b8b8
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>>148171734
Does evasion effect cleave? If so, how does truestrike work with cleaving targets with evasion?
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>>148171512
Instead of complaining about mechanics you should work on your own gameplay so you end a 40 min game with more than 300 gpm, no?
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>>148171512
>It's free damage, why shouldn't it be inefficient? It's just frustrating that when you fight Sven, or a BF carrier in general, armor is borderline irrelevant.

It requires 2 enemy units to be cooperating and stupid. It also is LITERALLY useless in 1v1 (literally FREE nodamage). The damage IS reduced by armor type of the primary and the cleave is positioning dependent.

The only thing it gives you an edge with is farming creeps since you can control them in a systematic way which is what battlefury has ever been purchased for

>generally melee heroes are faster and ranged are slower to help balance the fact ranged heroes can attack first.
Do you really think +5 base movespeed compensates for melee range? Melee heroes are always in danger of getting kited to shit and are much riskier in taking things like towers.

Luna also has the highest base movespeed in the game retard.
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>>148171975
it "affects" it as in it might cause a miss on the original hit
there is _nothing_ you can do to defend yourself against cleave save for removing yourself from the map (phase shift, astral imprisonment, etc)
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what the hell does kbps mean in loss/kbps
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>>148171734
>Are you stupid? Cleave damage is entirely independant on the attacked targets armor.


I already mentioned its based on the primaries armor type

LOOK
>>148170757
>Cleave is pure damage because it already checks the armor type of the unit hit

Also http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Cleave:
>The damage is not reduced by the armor value, only the armor type and Damage Block reduce it.
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>>148172189
kilobytespersecond 'tard
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>I may be 2k but I know that this interaction that literally nobody else is complaing about is bullshit broken, trust me!
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>>148171517
post more PA pls
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>>148172338
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>literal lolbabby losing to sven is now trying to write essays on why cleave shouldnt exist
Holy shit.

>>148172154
>there is _nothing_ you can do to defend yourself against cleave save for removing yourself from the map

Ghost scepter.
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>>148172471
I thought this was a meme of sumail
really makes you think...
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>>148172154
>there is _nothing_ you can do to defend yourself against cleave
Have you tried kiting and killing the sven?
Force staffs are a thing you know
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>>148171985
I had over 300gpm but it was very difficult to farm in general with 3 heroes trying to jungle and the fact that they were roaming in a 5 man gank squad 24/7, making it unviable to farm the lanes. Everyone except Sven had bad gpm for a reason. I was farming at pretty much every available opportunity, and at any rate my gpm took a nosedive because of my buyback at the end.

>>148172085
Luna also has the lowest range of any ranged hero in the game. And ranged heroes have other issues to deal with such as generally lower health pools, base damage, and how certain items like Basher or Vanguard are inefficient on them.
And yes, you retard, movespeed is a balancing aspect between ranged and melee. This is not always true because of heroes like Enchantress, but she's also super squishy, and some ranged heroes like Clinkz or Weaver have built in move steroids to make them fast as shit.

Movespeed is not the only balancing aspect in the game but it is one of them. It's why Lion and Shadow Shaman with their 8 seconds of disables have 290 movespeed and KotL with his situational 3 second stun has 335.
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>>148172614
Mmm... you smell new, little boy, like fabric softener dew on freshly mowed Astroturf.
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>>148172316
no shit
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wait charlie isn't eg's manager anymore? who manages them then
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>>148172154
What if there was an item or ability that lets you keep some kind of dummy unit in front of you at all times and your attacks become cleave-only and able to execute without having to target enemies.
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>>148172614
So tell me why you thought SE was a good purchase in this game where 'roaming in a 5 man gank squad 24/7'?
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>>148172154
halberd
blademail
>inb4 I-I HATE BLAIDE MAIL
too bad you monkey, iceshit makes the meta and you have to follow it like the fucking slave-cuck you are
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>>148172719
reddit
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>>148172714
well then why did you ask?
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>>148172968
because just "kbsp" doesn't explain what the hell it's measuring
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>>148172614

You can smell the LoL on him

By all means, play Sven a bunch of games in a row. Should be easy wins because of his LITERALLY FREE damage. I am sure that being kited to absolute shit and having a "threat" range of 150 units won't be THAT big of a deal.
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>>148172614
>it was very difficult to farm in general with 3 heroes trying to jungle and the fact that they were roaming in a 5 man gank squad 24/7, making it unviable to farm the lanes.
I sure do love this meme
Lets see, the enemy are 5 manning.
That means they are all in once place.
Now how does this stop you from farming one of the lanes?
This might come as a surprise to you kid, but the team who splits up and farms will have a higher gpm than the ones who 5 man gank
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>>148171975
If your attack misses, no cleave will happen, since no attack happened. If you hit, you will cleave into every hero in the radius, no matter if they have evasion or not. You cannot dodge cleave.

>>148172307

>based on the primaries armor type

That's incorrect. Sven hits the siege creep, Axe still takes 66 damage. However, damage TAKEN by cleave is based on armor type, so Sven hitting axe only deals 33 damage to the siege creep, since they take 50% damage from Hero damage.

Only damage block can reduce cleave damage onto heroes, or ethereal form, of course. But, cleave does deal less damage if it hits certain armor types, but the armor type/armor/whatever of the unit you landed your attack on, doesn't matter.
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>>148173037
>enemies buy magic wand
Congrats you're now giving them constant free heals and mana regen.
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6.8x
Added active ability for moment of courage.

-Tresdin performs a revenge attack that changes direction of an incoming ability of an enemy or ally and reflects them if they are missiles and the enemy is as close as 400 range.
-Revenge lasts for .6/.6/.8/.8 seconds and only block 1 stance of ability.
-Failing to block an ability stuns Tresdin for 1.2 seconds
-All reflected abilities are reflected maximum of 400 range around Tresdin.
-Global abilities will remain global.
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>>148172760
Counterintiation and Break.
Sven didn't die 4 times for no reason, he died because I was hanging back invisible when I suspected they'd jump in, he'd try to initiate, I'd Break him and stun him and he'd do nodmg and die.

The last time he showed up with bkb and Daedelus and got a 3 man stun, and despite the fact that I was off to the side I took 1500 pure damage because apparently I was within cleave range even though I thought I was pretty far away. Silver Edge was an excellent purchase if you ask me, it got us as far as we did. We died in the end because Legion blink duel reaction put us in a poor position and he crit 2 times immediately.

>>148173086
Because we had no vision on their side of the map, and were scared of smoke ganks. They'd push out a lane or two then go back to deathballing. At any rate, 5 heroes sharing a lane is poor gpm.
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>>148173370
anything is better than this 2k shitter so by all means please post some more
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wheres pitlord
reddit told me there would be pitlord
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>>148173190
Here is a protip for you friend, max range dagger doesnt give magic stick charges
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>please commend
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New ogre magi Bloodlust :

Bloodlust now passively adds magic damage to ogre magi's basic attacks.
The bonus can be multicasted.
Attack and movespeed active stays the same.

Magic Damage : 50/70/90/110
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>>148173936
>Adding more buffs
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>>148173497
I have to wonder how accurate this picture is, does Lone Druid really rape DP?
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nahaz BTFO
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>>148174049

DUDE SAUCE
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>>148173936

>Echo sabre manta ogre
>first int hero to benefit from echo sabre
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>>148141812

From 'very high skill bracket' which I am in and you are not, you can tell that i'm in a very high skill bracket for my server, and that my skill is very high and that my team are boosted migrants. My mmr is 4.1k and its obvious how many boosted 3k cucks are being boosted into my games, proceeding to feed, then proceed to call me cancerous because their feelings get hurt. Granted, i am a homosexual with the voice of a 12 year old memestar and most people don't like when my sassy tone cuts to the bone with insults about their shitty gameplay, but literally everything im saying is a truthful critisicm, im not being mean just for the sake of being mean, im calling them on BIG mistakes (The way they reverse cry you would think im flaming them for missing a pull or missing cs, no, its for shitty coordination that directly affects my game and simply a lack of personal skill leading me to think they are boosted and need to be flamed out of this fucking 4k trench on aus ser
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>>148174198
echo sabre is surprisingly good on techies
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>Hurricane Pike active cast range from 400 to 675
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>>148154841
he's literally a god
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>>148174049
the fk r u smoking this is clearly lycan and luna
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>>148174198
>dark seer
>>
Is liking grant a d2g meme or what?
i decided to watch him for like 5 minutes once and it was really cringy, does the gulag inherently have shit tastes?
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>>148174139
Reminder
https://youtu.be/7fBfmPENyK0
Oh he'll show up to ti6 alright, and you're all coming down with him
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>>148174392
make it global tbqh
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>>148174583
dumb bear poster
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>>148174648
Reddits that way pal
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>>148174697
i wish i could fight him
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>>148174375
I am in VHS too, and I am exacly 4007 MMR.

I also have accepted that pointing out mistakes made by allies in the past has no positive effect.

I therefore to not point that shit out. Instead I say "you should stop diving, it's dangerous because of hero X" or whatnot if someone dies.

Being barely 4k like me, it's good fun to call 3.9k players "3k cucks", but judging from your profile, you're not that great yourself. Also, I'd like to remind you that since everyone on here has autism, you bet your ass most of them are 4k+. At least.

But now that you mention that you play on AUS, I can see where you're coming from. With fewer players comes shittier matchmaking. Just remember that for every losing streak, you get more ValvePoints, and eventually you'll be placed with good players for a while, until you are chosen to help other people on lose streaks with many ValvePoints, and you go on a losing streak yourself.

The only reason why I can see where you're coming from is because of the AUS server part btw. I've heard matchmaking over there is garbage. If it was EU west or US servers, you KNOW that it would almost entirely be dunning krueger.
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Anyone wanna be friends?
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>>148174756
>dumb ginger poster
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>>148175032
friendship is overrated
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>>148174915
and one last thing, the game that got me muted, i wasnt negative towards my teammates at all, i was fun and jokingly on the mic and never called out and early mistakes because i was stomping mid and we were winning, so i can only assume i was muted because i was saying >good game well played after wiping the enemies every teamfight, so if i literally cant even use chat wheel without getting reported, whats the point of me not flaming these retards into oblivion?

The thing that pisses me off the most is that if they were actually australian they would cop this banter, instead, these gooks just cry and report and sit in fountain
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>>148174832
being this much a contrarian of eating literal shit just because even reddit doesnt like it wont change your shit eating ways
dont reply to me ever again you fucking silkworm
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>>148175129
please?
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>>148175032
ok
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>>148175691
Cool, whats your steam?
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>>148175141
I feel you about that chatting part. To be completely honest with you, more chatting = more chance to get reported, muted or placed with very cancerous players. I don't know why. I've never been muted, and only went to low prio about twice half a year ago because I was playing poorly and got mass reported, but during that time, I chatted a lot. I also notice that a few games after I chat a lot, I will be placed against cunts who spam shit in all chat to annoy you all the time. I guess you get placed with others who chat a lot, and people mostly chat a lot to be cunts in this game.

AUS might be kind of fucked desu, but good luck anyway. If we're assuming both teams are equally bad, I'd just tell you to instamute anyone who is trash, don't even chat to them, it doesn't do anything, mute All Chat if you like (since no ally or enemy could add anything of value), and just focus on perfecting your heroes and being as efficient as possible.

If you feel like matchmaking is against you or you're massively tilted, just play unranked. The only way to win in ranked is to queue with the mindset of that you'r egonna do as good as possible and try to win.
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>>148175989
I've already deleted you for being a weirdo underage ponyfag that offered to send me nudes :/
>>
Hey gamers

I just lost like 25 of my 30 last games because of people throwing hardcore

I also had an alch mid who only bought aghanims scepters for 30 minutes
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>secret aren't practicing, Rtard just soloqueuing
>EG also aren't really practicing
>both aren't playing in any tournament until TI

Betting against these teams is the easiest bugattis of my life.
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>>148176265
Arteezy is playing Overwatch actually lol rip TI6
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>>148176485
>The following heroes are getting items related to The International.
>Slark: Blades (Weapon)

Oh boy, another slark weapon :^)
>>
YOOOO
I'M IN THE BATTLE CUP FINALS AGAINST
CYBORGFATT
DURKA
NOXVILLE
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>>148176803
Could this be because slark is insanely popular and broken as fuck?
Surely that cant be the case, afterall invoker only got his 4th super ultra delux rare item.
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>>148177057
Don't let that fat fuck steal your win
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>>148176896
please insult them in all chat
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>this is somehow considered balanced
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>>148177054
He already has an immortal blade
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>>148177154
>feed hero like retards
>got LC and lina to deal with him
>waaah broken
dude has a blink midas and TP scroll still, so he's technically 3 slotted, and you feed him like that
you got nobody to blame but YOURSELVES
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>>148177108
Is there anything Cyborgmatt can't steal?
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>>148177275
1 immortal isnt enough, didnt he also get that when he was broken back then too?
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>>148177285
>tp scroll
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>>148177285
hmm I was the winter waifu though
LC could not do anything while I was around
especially since that retard built aghs
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>>148177394
He has other slots too you autist
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>>148177558
>other slots
>hes getting ANOTHER immortal BLADE
anon...
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>>148176149
typical Anti-Mage game
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Is Pitlord just going to be more gay bait? Can't we get some more cute heroes?
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>>148177701
You sound like a very confused retard
>>
Haven't played since just before that patch that added items like Echo Saber and pissed everyone off.

Anything I should know before I get back into it?
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>>148177923
Echo saber is wife material
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>>148177824
maybe you find my ramblings confusing because you are the retarded one?
think about this while you wait
>>
>it took nearly two years to beat MUH FEELS gaming and get retards to stop buying drums on everything
>now if they are agi heroes they build Ring of BadMedallion on everything instead

The battle was won, but the war is far from over.
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>>148177970
I think you're a homosexual
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>>148177968
Echo sabre is a meme, and will be a meme forever
>m-muh double attack every 5 seconds
>now thats efficiency
>>
>>148178164
>b-but look its not that impressive on paper when considering 6-slot endgame builds muh armchair theorycraft dota
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>>148178096
wow rude desu
>>
What is a good offlaner that:

>isn't Timber
>isn't Dark Seer
>isn't Axe
>isn't female
>isn't out of the meta/underpowered
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>>148178291
go bugger urself wop
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>>148178164
>be sven
>build echo
>get more attacks in than your tiny 2 second stun window than you would with most other items
I don't see the problem. Same for Tiny. It's great. You're stupid.
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>>148178347

What is an "offlaner"?

Do you mean iron talon jungler?
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>>148178242
its never impressive
>get any other midgame carry item that builds into an actual item
>its better
WOW
>>
Mid Bane is my secret draft strategy. No one sees it coming.
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>>148178347
beastmaster
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>>148178347
bat?
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>>148178082
Medallion doesn't give you early damage or pushing power.
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>>148178461
It fucks up mid hard, but then you have to depend on the other lanes succeeding because Bane can't do too much with the farm.
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>>148178347

My nigga Brewmaster.

>Reliable last hit with passive
>Get a fast level 6 and start destroying the support
>Get arcanes and a quick blink by minute 10
>Proceed to destroy the mid game

It can't get easier my mang. Now if you are up against a trilane you can just grab yourself a talon and farm the camp with drunken haze
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>>148178482

The ring of basi gives you pushing power. Ring of aquila literally does not change any of the auras.

"Early damage". Ahh yes, the drums of endurance war finds a new battlefield.

Medallion gives more survivability, better regen after 10 minutes, allows for faster creep/jungle clearing, works on rosh, works on allies, AND doesn't generate stick charges.

If RoA was built for the non-basi stats idiots would be stacking the stupid things.
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heh
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>>148178560
if you want to be a threat early on why not play a carry thats actually one early on and doesnt need a shitty meme item?
fuck off weeb
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>>148178598
He's a great roamer though. Gets his blink really fast so he can just pop in and get free kills. Brain Sap with the level difference wrecks people, then you have Fiend's Grip to guarantee another kill. The one thing he can do with the farm is become a beacon of hope and phat ganks.
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>>148178560
>projecting this hard
>>
most OP heroes right now?
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>>148178810
>le projection XD

sup reddit, want to talk about strawman fallacy or something?
>>
>148178828
i am done replying to your weak baits animeshitter
if you cant tell me why you dont pick a carry thats great all game and instead chose to build shitty meme items your loss
never again will you recieve my (you)
>>
>>148177285
He's pointing out Slark can stat steal through Winter's Curse.
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Does anyone wanna be friends?
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not worth my time desu senpai
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>>148178960
>projecting on someone who is pointing out that someone else was projecting
>>148179015
>not posting memes on ebinchan
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>>148179229
Sounds like you're projecting, prove me wrong
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>>148179267
>he thinks dotards actually go outside and not rage at dota/watch streams like cucks all day
lol
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>>148179297
> i know you are but what am i?
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>>148178408
How is the meta right now? Last time i played was right when Zeus got remodeled. How does this LoL-like item Iron Talon change everything for offlaners? I understand it makes jungling easier, but can't see how jungling as someone who isn't Enigma is a good idea.
>>
Are there any decent custom games yet? Like full on single player campaigns?
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>>148179392
fuckin rekt kid
just stay in your fountain
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>>148179426
do it fag
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>>148178694

>medallion gives more survivability
Right, as long as you're not using the active

>better regen after 10 minutes
Right about when you want to go for better items than medallion.

>allows for faster creep/jungle clearing
Gonna have to question this one.

>works on rosh, works on allies
exactly why it's better for supports to get it instead

Medallion is simply not an item you build on carries(except alch sometimes). Have a support get it if you think it's needed.
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>>148174565
>My name is Van,I'm an artist,I'm a performance artist,I'm hired by people to fulfill their fantasies...their deep...dark...fantasies.
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>>148179446
>either scrap for some xp in off lane or buy one item to jungle extremely fast

Iron talon completely negates any difficult off lane.
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This is now a Kunkka thread.
>Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC-NWWheyXw
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>>148179135
Please?
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>>148179552
>he missed the irony completely and thinks he won an argument
the double digit IQ life is real
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>>148179748
and just leave the lane altogether and let the enemy free farm?
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>>148179826
Sounds like you're projecting
>>
>>148179769
more like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3nM2Ul4rLU
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>>148179871
How the fuck do you plan on stopping a safe laner from farming on your own? Unless they counterpicked themselves and their supports/roamer is a complete moron, you realistically shouldn't be able to stop him.
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>>148179871
Yeah let the enemy carry freefarm while the supports move on to victimize the other lanes, iron talon so OP plz nerf icefrog make offlane great again
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>>148180082
So you just start the game normally at offlane, then buy iron talon and go fuck off to your jungle and abandon the lane?
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>>148180160
basicly
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>>148179936
>literally just repeating whatever i just said
pic related its (YOU) parrot
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>>148179826
Echo Sabre is a good item. People don't get 6 slotted instantly, your precious slots don't matter. Plus, if we're comparing it to Yasha...

Echo Sabre...
Is better...
Than Sange and Yasha.

On certain heroes.

>B-B-BUT SVEN GETS KITED!!111! YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE! HE NEEDS SNY!!! HE NEEEDS IT!!!!!! FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUU!

No. Echo Sabre allows Sven to get more attacks out during his 2 seconds opening where he has stunned the enemy. Echo Sabre. Is better. Than SnY. On Sven... And Tiny. And that's literally it, every other hero in the game should never buy this item.
>>
What if instead of Guardian Angel providing physical immunity, it gave 100/200/300 damage block and 10/20/30 hp regen over the duration, doubled for units under 30% health.
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>>148180260
>echo sabre is better than s&y on tiny
i know what you mean but you worded that pretty poorly desu
>>
>>148180158
Exactly my point, if you abandon the offlane then the supports lose the need to protect the carry so they go gank mid 24/7
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>>148180391
Oh and Aghs makes it 150/300/450 damage block and triples the regen for units below 30% health.
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>>148180391
HERESY
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>>148180421
I see pros buy SnY on Tiny.

>>148180646
Yes but his 68% winrate is pretty Heretical too.
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well we got shitstomped

I shouted us out a couple times
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>>148180710
Pros don't always make the best decisions. Do you KNOW how long it took them to start getting HotD on Sven and stacking ancients instead of going MoM on him? Even after large buffs, usually the pubbers find out about OP stuff before pros do, because experimentation is scary and dangerous!
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>>148180710
I dont watch memesports all that much but can you show me an example of a pro building s&y on tiny in a SERIOUS game, im legit curious.
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>>148180810
>losing to gareth
quit dota
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>>148180710
simply
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How exactly does negative armor work?

Like armor will absorb some of the incoming blow and reduce the damage to your health right? But what does negative armor do?
Make your bones softer? Make attacks magically veer towards your vital organs? It doesn't make sense.
>>
>>148180961
Do you not see? Negative armor removes your skin, making you more vulnerable to attacks... If you are naked at 0 armor, you are skinned at -10 armor, making physical damage deal more damage when damaging you.
>>
do people still profit from dota betting?

i lost my winnings once someone made an automatic betting arbitration tool and people just drained the value of the bets
>>
>>148180961
>trying to fitt stupid shit like organs and whatnot into gameplay in Dota
Just imagine armor is your skin and the skin gets weaker so it's easier hit vital organs , shit I don't know, thas a dumbass question.
>>
>>148180254
A lack of self awareness is unattractive Anon, that's why you're going to die alone
>>
>>148181228
you can but only if you are betting arcanas
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>>148180505
What do you expect from shitters who unironically believe in memeback and tank meta
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>>148181081
But how does this affect characters who have no skin like Tiny or DP?

How does physical attacks even hurt a ghost? What the fuck was Icefrog thinking when he made this nonsense game?
>>
>>148176265
Are you aware that scrims are made in private lobbies only shown to friends?
>>
Immortal 3 when?
>>
>>148181415
ghosts have to be partially physical to interact with this world you FUCKing retard
>>
>>148181607
The legitimate feeling of rage emitting from this reply is humorous.
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>>148181607
Then why does ghost scepter make you immune to physical?

DP should be permanently ethereal
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>>148181285
>projecting so much that he doesn't even realize it, its a full blown habit now
top fking kek m8
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Why does DK exist
What does he do that other carries can't do better
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>>148181912
because it removes you from the phsical plane

WHICH IS WHY YOU CANNOT INTERACT PHYSICALLY WHILE IN ETHEREAL FORM

YOU

FUCKING

MOUTH

BREATHING

RETARD
>>
>>148181978
he fits into most drafts well
>>
>>148181978
Its not that he does one thing better, Its that he does a lot of things good.

>tanky as fuck
>good at killing towers
>damage reduction
>pretty good stun
>FREE splash damage
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Thread has gone to shit, post SVEEEEEEEEEN! YEAAAAAAAAAAARGH! RAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! YEAAAAAAAAAARGH! YAAAAAAAAARGH!

I made it myself! Isn't it halfway decent! I'm very proud of it.
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>>148182015
Yea but then why does DP have to be part of the physical plane if she is a ghost?

And if you cannot interact physically with anything then why cant you move through trees while ethereal?
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>>148182148
>>148182216
>gets shrekt by every meta hero and can be safely ignored by enemy cores with bkb

nice hero you got there doturds
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>>148182298
hey I thought that was a screenshot from the thumbnail

check out my io
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>>148182298
arrrgh~ :3
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what the fuck mate
who even IS attending the jewish happy-go-lucky-let's-play-mafia-and-maybe-some-dota2-if-there's-still-time festival???
AFAIK secret and EG dropped out
>>
>>148182374
because shes a different kind of ghost

because thats planned for the next patch
>>
>>148182482
Every hero is bad fomr some things Anon.

Except Slark. He can literally do anything better than anyone else.

>support slark can easily find every enemy ward and still solo most of the enemy team and can never be caught out because of his skills
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>>148182678
yeah what

so he came, i came too, we're all fucking coming

keep us updated though
>>
>>148182780
slark cant jungle
>>
>>148141365
>Mirana waifu will be cute!
She's close to being cute she just needs her eyes to be closer together.
>>
honestly with all the retarded shit icefraud added to the game since then the original bat lasso doesn't seem OP at all anymore
when are they going to revert the nerfs?
>>
>>148141724
1- smoke
2- invisibility
3- don't go alone. Actually, never go alone, take your group to smoke, Ward, gank and if possible go invisible.
>>
>>148182374
>>148182705
DP isn't a ghost at all retards. She's basically a lich/revenant who never died first. Not sure what you'd call that but she is alive as fuck.

Kunkka is a ghost however (his dying sound effects are drowning sounds)
>>
>>148181978
hes largely been shifted out of the game by staying the same while everyone else gets buffs, like cm or warlock
both their skills do little damage, and theyre only ever picked for their passives and ults
even then another pick like kotl/dazzle or gyro/sven would fit their position better
>>
if dota 2 had a million dollar kickstarter with 90 days for funding back in 2011 do you think the game would have been a game?
>>
>>148146364
There is nothing more manly than literally marking your territory and defending it.
>>
>>148183905
I think Kickstarter has a much smaller community back in 2011, so I don't think it'd work.
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Post your these things

Apparently I should just stop playing dota before work at 9AM.
>>
>>148183905
not at 2 million. 1 million, yes.
>>
>>148140393
Crit armor reduction increases to 5/6/7/8

Strength to 25 + 3.1
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>>148183609
>Kunkka is a ghost however (his dying sound effects are drowning sounds)

That's way too spooky Anon
>>
>>148184210
>Rough seas ahead, crew! Strap me to the mizzen when I say the word!

He literally thinks he is on the boat.
>>
>>148147330
Not him but yes.
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>>148183995
GIVE ME ALL THE FARM

I'VE GOT A GAME TO LOSE
>>
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>>148183995
one of the most surprising for me

reminder that objectives win games
>>
>>148184210
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/8/86/Kunk_ally_03.mp3
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/4/45/Kunk_ally_05.mp3
totally a ghost m8
>>
kunkka is just crazy

hes never even been on a boat
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>cores who expect perfect ward/sentry coverage from a solo support

Don't be so entitled guys
I'm not fucking leaving the safety of this tower until Slark shows in a different lane
>>
>>148161521
>ember
>carry potential
Tell me now TWO (2) carriers that are worst than him. Seriously, try.
>>
>>148184882

Sniper, Bristleback, OD, and Razor
>>
>>148184882
sniper

carry void

ck

gyro
>>
>>148184669
He thinks he's alive. The thought has never entered his mind that tidehunter won.

Tide krakened his entire fleet of ships. You telling me an admiral didn't go down with not only his ship, but his entire FLEET?

PS HE THROWS HIS FUCKING BOAT WHICH WAS DESTROYED AT YOU IN A SKILL
>>
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>>148184786
>I will purchase: tango
>I will purchase: tango
>Can someone upgrade the courier
>Can someone upgrade the courier
>We need wards
>We need wards
*ping* *ping* *ping* *ping* *ping* *ping*
>We need wards
>We need wards
>We need wards
*ping* *ping* *ping* *ping* *ping* *ping*
>>
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>That feel when no Lina Inverse hero
>>
>>148185513
Literally Windranger
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THIS GENERAL IS EVEN DEADER THAN...KUNKKA!
>>
What baffles me in 4k is that most players don't even know about 'hand of roshan' buff, where all members who did at least 1 damage to rosh and are inside the pit when it dies to their team will get a 5% boost of their main stat for 5 minutes
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>>148185986
STOP LYING REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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so how do you get the 25x 100 instances of magic damage in 10s?

I theorise it would be easiest with timbersaw or sandking but i have no idea how it works, even with zeus refresher aghs double ulti, it doesnt give me any points towards the quest, so i have no idea what im even supposed to do, its worded very shittily as well
>>
>>148186486
CM ult
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>>148186486
Venomancer + aghs + Veil is easiest

Sandking, CM, Zeus, Leshrac are also contenders
>>
>>148186486
just b urslf
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>>148186632
>in 10s
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>>148186486
i did it with lesh
>>
>>148186486
did it with enigma (but lost)
>>
>>148186738
did you seriously delete this and reupload this? we've already seen this you anime weeb autist kys.

3k trash
>>
Pudge nerfs when?
>>
> starting game
> mid happily says "hey guys im from turkey where you from?"
> call him a smelly turkroach
> guys loses his shit and feeds all game

lmao
>>
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>>148186738
please go back to league
>>
>the vlads first void meme is still going strong
uhh dotards?
>>
>>148187057
literally why? pugna is already dog shit. you literally have to be put mid so you can become a mediocre support by the end of the game
>>
>>148186707
>over 100 damage every second for 16 seconds to multiple targets

You only need to catch 3 people with your ult and you will do 30 instances of 100+ damage in 10 seconds. You can also use venomous gale for even more hits.

Not to mention that it has a pretty huge AOE so its much easier to land than SK ult or CMs luck based ult and you can also die and still get it easily.
>>
>>148186896
i just made this, this isnt the same one i posted before
and i didnt delete it either
im at least 4k
and why have you mouthbreathing facebook users have started typing "kys" instead of the full sentence, to sound hip? fuck off, shitter
>>
>>148187106
lol
>>
>>148140646

I'd be indignant about it too but it would be the best 35 I had ever spent.
>>
>>148187106
good lad
>>
>>148187106
upvoted XD
>>
new thread for a dead gen for a dead game
(no weebs)
>>148187357
>>148187357
>>148187357
>>148187357
>>148187357
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>>148165186
>exactly
No such thing, the damage range on towers (and your hero) means there is no magic number.

>>148150050
What's that?

>>148160283
>unique heroes
>SMITE
Rofl
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>>148160283
>unique

trust me on this one, they are all practically the same.
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