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hana song
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>>148101987
POO
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If you post D.Va in this thread that's all that anyone will play in your next 3 comp games.
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why does sym have a huge fucking jew nose
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If you think CoDman is bad then you're retarded.

Fact.
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Reinhardt is my waifu.
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Soldier is fucking garbage.
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>>148101987
>back down to 43
Comp is suffering
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What's the best way to play Symmetra when on offense or when playing on KOTH maps?
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>get a penta kill with symmetra by fully charging an orb into a graviton surge
>expecting either me or zarya to get potg at the end
>enemy mercy gets it for reviving one person and shooting at somebody wildly with her pistol
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I've been steady laddering solo. Anyone that says the MM is broken needs to get good.
And I always play Lucio.
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>>148102108
Tell that to the competitive scene.
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Kill yourself 76. No one likes you.
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Genji and Soldier are the most balanced offense heroes in the game
prove me wrong: you can't
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>>148102143
you don't
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>>148102182
>most balanced
>offense
This isn't a good thing
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>>148102108
Found the Pharah
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>>148102202
>last panel
holy shit im slammed with nostalgia. also surprised someone remembers calvin and hobbes
man, i really want to read them again. now if only i could find where the book went...
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DON'T RESPOND TO ANTI 76 POSTERS
THEY ARE JUST RETARDS LOOKING FOR ATTENTION
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>>148102182
genji is balanced but volatile. his gimmicks mean that if anyone with good fast people kills (winston, symmetra, mcree) gets buffed he will instantly be guttered in seconds. 76 has no gimmicks so he isn't going anywhere anytime soon unless they nerf him on purpose
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>>148102149
That's utter bullshit and there's no way you possibly could have do-
>And I always play Lucio.
THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING.
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>>148102232
it's also not a bad thing
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>>148102167
Oh, we should have figured it was you. So when does your summer vacation end?
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Are there any defense heroes worth using on KoH maps?
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>>148102332
Junkrat
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>>148102273
He's also an anti-Reaper poster.
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>>148102332
Torb
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>>148102332
man, his quality dropped like a fucking rock since i last saw it
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>>148102298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CLgpd241Aw
MAKE MORE FUCKING GIRLCHAN IN PARADISE EGORAPTOR YOU FUCKING FAGGOT DAMN YOUR SLANTY EYED FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME GIRL FRIEND
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>>148102332
Junkrat is the best for all maps

Mei is actually good in Illios for constant contesting
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>>148102253
>tfw going to visit my Grandpa as a kid and reading these huge Calvin and Hobbes and Far Side comic collections that had commentary from Watterson and Larson respectively

maximum comfy
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>>148102202
damn, if only that image of 76 in the before last panel wasn't missing part of his hand, I'd crop him out
would make for a fun reaction image
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>>148102460
seriously. the last time i remember seeing something from nerf now it had r43 TF2 characters with some half-decent T&A
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>>148102395
>>148102484
>playing junkrat on koth
What's it like feeding pharah kills?
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>>148101987
How do we fix Symmetra so she's actually usable past first point defense?
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Post 'em

say something nice and something mean about the person before you
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>>148102505
funnily enough my grandpa had a couple of the books. i read them so much they bought me the complete one for a birthday or something, now that i think about it, i think i left it at their house years ago
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>>148102145
It's not as bad as
> get sixtuple kill from black hole as genji
> play of the game
> torbjorn literally just uses molten core as he walks back from spawn and clears the point
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>there are people not using the "sorry" spray

smhtbhqfam
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>>148102505

fuck, i remember those

now i need a copy
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>>148102619
i'm not interesting enough apparently but thank you support friend but stop playing symetra in general
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>>148102594
Defense Heroes were asked

At least Junkrat can put some pressure in the area
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>>148102619
You do the very important jobs no one wants to
You're probably a huge slut with a crossdressing fetish
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>>148102594
I dodge rockets and mine myself above her and make her realize the skies are mine
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>>148102740
What is more BM?

Thanks, Well Played, or Sorry.
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>teammate is doing an absolute shit pick like torbjorn on offense
>repeatedly ask them to switch off
>"b-but I'm silver/gold damage so I'm not the problem!"

Fuck these people that think the damage stat is at fucking all an indication of how useful you're being
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>>148102619
i can't stop
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>>148102573
That's how bill watterson drew it originally though
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>>148102869
>They say because they have gold eliminations and damage that they are a good pick
>All it takes is a turret tagging someone once to get tapped for the elimination
I hate the assist system in this specific case only.
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>enemy team spams roadhogs
>can't do anything because roadhog has no counter
>lose
nice game dotards
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>>148102594
Isn't Pharah least played on KoH maps by pros since there are a lot of cover?
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>>148102803
As much as i hate to admit it, hanzo is the best defensive pick for koth.
>>148102847
That's pretty funny. Seems like something junkrat would do. Probably smarter to lob the mine at her though.
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>>148102997
Who is Reaper?
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>>148102997
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>>148102997
Use either streetpig, reaper or distance
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>>148102997
I have barely any trouble with roadhog. It's easy to get around him. I don't get those retards that don't know how to counter by now.
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anyone have the twitch vod of the 6 dva stall?
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>>148102997
>not going 6 Reapers
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>Junkrat mines himself over me as pharah
>Suddenly Snared
>What
>He can toss his bear trap at me in mid air and have it catch me
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>>148102619
You're more likely than not the key player that holds the team together...

...but you're incredibly reliant on the rest of the team to do all the damage, if they can't you'll more likely than not lose
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>>148102997
>pick Zenyatta
>stay out of hook range
>murder every roadhog
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>>148102997
>not curbstomping them with all the free ult charge you could want.
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>>148102851
Well played is generally more salt producing but sorry goes too well with mei to pass up
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>>148103058
>lots of cover
They're big open objectives for rocket spam and free environmental kills. Maybe village might be a problem but that's about it.
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>>148102997
One Rein, two bastion
Done and done
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>>148103171
He can also put his trap on dynamic objects such as basketballs
The more you know
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I finally got this game a few days ago maybe a week now and it feels like I am gaining ranks so slowly. I am only like level 20 I know it is good to get mad experience before you go into competitive, but I do not want to miss out on a season just because I am slow.
any tips for climbing the ladder faster?
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>>148103303
isnt there a rumor going around that putting traps on the basketball can get you banned though?
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>>148103338
>mad experience
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>>148102253
>surprised someone remembers calvin and hobbes

It's probably in the top five most famous comics in the world dude. Even people do typing they've literally never held a newspaper in there hand have seen the bootleg Calvin pissing.

>>148102202

Is extremely cute and feel-inducing, he's right.
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>>148103338
It shouldn't be hard to get about 2500-5000 EXP per match in quick play as long as you play consecutively and actively. And if overtime rolls around try to keep extending it
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>>148103359
Yeah I mained Junkrat (43 hours I think) and I did that shit all the time, took me a while to get banned though.
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>>148103338
also how do i stop sucking as toblerone. He is the one guy I want to play as, but can't get anywhere with
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Hey guys I wanted to ask here:

Is there any way to make the in-game sensitivity go lower than 1?

I just prefer playing with high DPI on my mouse and low sens in-game, but it doesn't go quite as low as I would like it with the slider at 1. Is there maybe a multiplier I can mess with in some .ini file, like in Siege and other games?

Thanks in advance!
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Played my first placement matches today, I didn't think Comp would have such bad players. I had 3 Golds in a game as Lucio with one of them being kills.
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>>148103338
group up with someone. +20% xp if you play in a group
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>>148103510
why is it a bannable offense though?
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Could someone help a brother out? I'm trying to find a webm of D.Va's default highlight intro where she aims her hand like a gun and then crosses her arms.
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>>148103359
Why would it get you banned when it's something they could just fix
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>>148103495
Right I guess I need to focus on playing more consecutive games and stop bouncing around to 4chan inbetween games
>>148103582
still waiting on friends to not be poor fags
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>>148103519
1. Pick Toblerone
2. Find a spot
3. LSHIFT and whack the fucker 5 times
4. ???
5. Profit
(Also use your pistol/shotgun thing and throw in some molten cores if necessary)
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>Tracer in the backline harassing the team
>spend 2 minutes chasing the bitch around to kill her
>do it again 30 seconds later
i mean god damn she's annoying
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>>148103569
I love that show
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>>148103359
Why? Seems like more trouble than its worth. I abused the dorado exploit fpr symmetra every chance i got and never even got a warning.
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>>148103494
i actually havent seen that decal in awhile lol
its just one of those things you dont see much anymore which surprised me
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Where do you position yourself so you can kill dva before she reaches the ground after ejecting? Where she ejects and lands seem so random at times
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>>148103519
>He is the one guy I want to play as
Oh goodness. Please don't be THAT guy that picks the dwarf when what we need is clearly another role
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>>148103709
d.va gets to control which direction she ejects in
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>>148102610

Make her teleporter slow enemies within a radius, no los necessary. Her ultimate is useless when you're close to the spawn, and that's the only reason not to play her at the end.
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>>148103419
not that guy, but
>hating on radcool tubularspeak.
Totally not schway, broseph.
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>>148103621
you could invite your teammates to a group or people in the general Chat at the menu screen.
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>>148103676
/10
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>find a shit-talking faggot
>counter him as tracer
>he switches to roadhog to prove his superiority or some shit
>I beat him left and right in spite of him hard countering me and in spite of being 9 drinks deep for the night
>he can't help but make crass dick insults to compensate for his loss

Fuck I love this game sometimes.
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>>148103769
oh no don't worry there are plenty of other classes I love I just think he would be fun to add to the mix
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>>148103670
>playing comp Nepal
>enemy Tracer is harassing us
>becomes the focal point of our strats
>we push when we kill her or hurt her and force her to retreat
>she's always able to contest the point, we can only cap it when we kill her
>we end up winning 3-2 with two of the wins being extremely close while one was a 100-0 stomp
>their useless Roadhog and Reinhardt start saying that Tracer was shit and made them lose
>my entire team defends the Tracer and tells them that she was carrying them
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Are most people stuck in the 55-60 rank?
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>>148102968

It's not the system, it's the fucking players. I don't understand why they wasted 40, 50 currencies ona team based, objective-printed shooter if all they want is a high k/d. Obviously, it sucks that there are no genetic tin and gun shooters out there oh wait there's fucking thousands of them.

Seriously, fuck hanzo.
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>>148104090
50 is apparently average, so probably around there
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>Playing Comp
>A bunch of our team gets caught in zarya and a mei ult
>"Ah shit it's over"
>Reinhardt jumps down from behind the enemy team and hammers down all of them fire strike and wipes their healer and 76 and proceeds to beat the rest of the team to death while we're frozen
>The entire time He's doing this he's making noises like a dying alpaca on voice chat
>Laugh so much I tear up
Everything is so funny after 2 am or I'm 12 years old
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You're AT LEAST in the top 1000 aren't you anon?
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>You're the underdog
>You're about to win
>Enemy team left
>You gain barely any xp for the next rank

LOL

Literally no reason to play competitive right now.

The rewards are garbage.
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>>148103976
Similar happened to me
> be playing Lucio
> always did my best to keep me off the point (Lijiang Tower, Night market)
> so fucking hilarious just WOBBING them off the edge
> their Zarya eventually had ult
> all of my team black hole'd except for me
> got her to the edge and right clicked as I do best
> roadhog comes in with his ultimate as I was distracted and mows my team down
> team blames the support of all people even though the black hole was gone and they could easily defend themselves
> the Zarya stood up for me
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>>148104221
i'm top 2% in damage blocked as rein
mirin'?
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>>148103163

Too easy
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Quick Questions, /owg/:

I never use Reinhardt. Any high level tips for playing him?

Also: What is the best/most annoying Lucio skin/voice emote?
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i just want new maps, not new heroes

new heroes will probably just fuck the whole game up fps games don't need anything but new maps to stay fresh
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>>148104317
I use can't stop won't stop.
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>>148104246
>mfw I leave whenever I lose to underdogs
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>>148104317
Rein: spin to win, fire strike cancel, press rmb sometimes
Lucio: Dat Boi+Hit Me, Why are you so angry, That's how you get tinitus
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>>148104331
>People are actively excited for a support sniper
Game is going to be unplayable again with all the I'M HELPING faggots in the back, not on objectives.

Adding snipers to this game was a fucking mistake.
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>>148104221
i'm only top 600... pls no bully for no icon
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>>148104317
Don't just be a moving rectangle. What separates bad Reinhardts from good Reinhardts is knowing when to go aggressive and when to hold M2+W. Tanks shouldn't just be blocking/sponging damage. You should also try to make the enemies focus on you and take aggro from your teammates.
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>>148104402
Snipers could be removed from every form of fps and it would be a better genre for it
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>teams getting rolled on payload
>go Lucio and start contesting like a madman
>spam CANT STOP WONT STOP to tilt the enemy team
>contest until overtime
>enemy team is all bunched up trying to kill me
>my teammate lands 1 good ult and wipes them
>we win because of my bullshit

CANT
STOP
WONT
STOP
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>>148104246
>well you see players, our system calculated your rank reward based on your chances to win, and that's why you get shit rank when it's 5v6
that makes no fucking sense, I still get shit rank when i win on the 5 side
>um well, we fixed it anyway!
no you didn't
>we're fixing it now
you're not though
>oh whoops it's the weekend, catch ya later!
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>>148103569
That's pretty normal. Lucio automatically gets gold in healing, it's piss easy to get gold in objective time, and you only need to do even a single point of damage to get kill credit. In fact lucio has the highest average gold medals of any hero.
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>>148104515
Fucking kek
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>>148104402
Sniper classes in general are a mistake and more often than not its because of the faggots who play them
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>>148104331
Are you seriously enjoying the tank meta?

IMO what this game needs is another tank buster that's not reaper and another anti infantry that's not bastion. Or maybe just buff Zenyatta so he can do both without dying with that pathetic 1 Tracer clip HP
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Can the enemy team hear your emotes?
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>>148104515
>spam CANT STOP WONT STOP to tilt the enemy team
Reminds me of the days of tilting enemies into focusing me instead of the ADC in League by spamming CTRL+4 as Lux.

Considering how many people find her annoying, you could probably do the same thing with Tracer.
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>>148104660
yes. They just won't get the microphone over your head
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Please give me more art of Hanzo with fucking logs instead of arrows. I need it.
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>>148104696
>Tracer flipping all over the place
>Flashbang and headshot her
>Ya done?
Best Mcree emote
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>>148104608
Its all the more fun to bully them because of how autistic they are
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>be level 66
>join a comp game
>it's that volskaya on attack
>we have a level 79 on our team
>he picks torb
>on offense
>another guy also picks torb
>neither say a single word all game
>neither do anything all game
>we can't even manage to take the first point
This is what it must feel like when you're rank 40
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>>148104515
Same thing happened to me today on Dorado as my team had a hard time killing two Roadhog I kept saying going around the payload as Lucio during overtime until our Tracer was able to kill them both with a pulse bomb.
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>>148104484
I play with a group of guys and I usually main Rein, and when I play Reinhardt they always comment about how easy my job looks.

Frankly, playing Reinhardt requires a good knowledge of tanking mentality. You have to know when to aggressively push the line, when to be the linesman that essentially scares the enemy back more, and when to make decisive plays.

When I see Reinhardts in the wild I always see them standing behind the payload on defense, using it as cover. Nah senpai, I get on that bitch and have my big fuck all shield present, and drop down in front of it so we can continue pushing it backwards. When the enemy arrives, get in their face so you are the thing they need to get past. If your team is on some level of competency, they'll be dealing damage to those trying to smoke you.

Other times you really need to know when to charge, and when to set up. Reinhardt makes a good distraction because of the meme shield. Everyone is afraid because Reinhardt is so fucking hard to kill, but they forget he's also not a big threat behind enemy lines. If the enemy has set up a defensive choke point, you can sometimes just charge PAST them, get behind the enemy, deploy your shield, and this will split their attention to some level. Your goal isn't to get behind them and fuck shit up, as it is to draw attention away from the rest of your team so they have to come deal with you. You will die, but those 2-3 people who came to deal with "Oh shit Reinhardt got past us" are no longer shooting at your 5 team mates, who just blew up Torbs turret and are waltzing past the once impenetrable fuckfest that is Anubis's first choke.

It's not hard to play a decent Reinhardt, but it's really easy to play a BAD Reinhardt.
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>>148104221
no because this isn't the only game I play
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>>148104634
I'm pretty sure it's just me but I have 0 problems with tanks as genji. Genji just jumps over them and fucks with them and has a pretty nice escape option. I have no problem taking out tanks too
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>>148102997
zarya paired with reaper fucks roadhogs up incredibly hard.
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>>148104257
hmmm no :]
>>148104467
Good luck!
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>>148104762
Rank 40 you get Genjis.
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>>148104717
Remedial Trigonometry
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>almost always heal or tank
>solo join competitive match
>already mercy, Lucio, Reinhardt and Winston,
>this is very unusual
>obligatory hanzo cunting things up
>no attack hero
>fuck it, why not? I'll give it a go
>choo-choo-choose reaper because edge
>omfg, look at that mong tank and his oblivious healer I think I'll just spook over to them and fucking murder them both like it was nothing
>shit this must be what it's like all the fucking time
>seriously considering spending some of my hard earned 1600 overdorra on that maximally edgy crow suit for him. Even if they bring it new skins, I'm not sure you could out-edge that without literally dressing him as a school shooter.
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>>148104830
So? I play casually, mostly with one other friend and we got top 92 and 95% right out of placement.
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>>148102619
just kill me
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>>148104974
k
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>>148104165

>The entire time He's doing this he's making noises like a dying alpaca on voice chat

That sounds fucking hilarious anon I'd die witnessing such a thing
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>play comp solo q
>after all placements rank 52
>keep playing solo q
> w-l-w-l-w-l-w-l-w-l and so on
>50% meme winrate and now rank 44
>play with 3 friends
>we go for hours
>w-w-w-w-l-w-w and so on
>now rank 63
lol this game doesn't require skill, it requires coordination, and that is incredibly hard to achieve with random players. anyways I kept playing solo q after rank 63 and this happened
>w-l-w-l-w-l-w-l and so on
>back to rank 52
awesome game, I'll keep playing just to see how low I can go with a perfectly even 50% winrate
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>>148104932
this is too fucking true
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>>148104891
Kek had a genji like this today
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>Blizzard will never be willing/able to do skins of characters from different IPs than their own.
>we'll never get a zarya armstrong and reinhardt armstrong legendary skins that cost either 15 dollars each or 25,000 gold
It hurts.
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>>148104891
>tfw I always ult at the same time as a friendly genji because I know they are going to tard out
>Either he gets a few kills because of my ult or I get a free High noon because he's weebing out and they focus him
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>>148105064
> team game based around coordination works better when you play with a team and use coordination

great post
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>>148104891
You get Reinhardts that just flame strike from spawn on route 66, refusing to shield for a solid 2 minutes, then leaving and going up the busted trains shielding with everyone else going elsewhere then quitting once people start getting behind you
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>>148105082
Genji "mains" like that should really just stick to playing the edgy 30 year old man
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>>148105235
WALKING

ULTIMATE

CHARGE
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>>148105154
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>>148104221
> tfw have been on vacation for 2 weeks so haven't played
> still top 100 Symmetra

> tfw on console
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>>148104837
I can also do that with Reaper/Tracer. My point is the current meta/fotm is so boring and makes half of the cast not having any playtime at all. Just stack tanks and tracers and lucios and reapers for that delicious overtime meme
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>>148105064
This. Skill is one thing but coordination is the most important which is why pub games are coin flips in solo queue.
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>>148103519

Do yourself a favor and don't pick toblerone. He's literally useless. Most of the time.

There's nothing more disheartening than to see your teammates instastack torbs on defence. You know 100% that your team has no imagination and if the other side is even slightly creative you are about to get stomped. Doubly so if they're flashing on and off trying to get a6 torb defence like we're in lvl 5 quick play or whatevs.

Final point, there's no getting gud at torbjorn. You put the thingy where the enemy are going to be and you upgrade it, then they destroy it and kill you and you run 100m backwards and do the same thing again until someone kills you and puts you out of your misery.
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>>148105143
>No Sasuke skin for Genji
>No Vash the Stampede skin for McCree
>No Harambe skin for Winston

Life is suffering
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>>148105270
SOUND THE ALARMS
CONSOLE PEASANT AMONG US
WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO
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>>148105235
t. squishy
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>>148104317
I use "Why are you so Angry" and the dance emote.

have a few clips of me using them in a PotG while doing exactly what happened in that WEBM. Always rustles some jimmies
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>>148105258
I CAN'T WAIT TO USE MY ULTIMATE AFTER ROADHOG HAS SHOVED HIS OUTPLAY SHOTGUN INTO MY SKULL
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Do any of you have a gold weapon yet
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>>148105235
Literally have 1 guy go reaper and 1 guy go zarya and have them fight relatively close together.

Congrats you just raped like 3 roadhogs with 2 people.
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>tfw falling for yet another blizzard game
god damn it every time the production values gets me and then I play the actual game.
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>>148105320
ah thats fucking lame ill stay away
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>>148105351

Here is your (you), stop it now.
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>>148105351
> tfw i main Lucio and am a competent wall rider so the difference is negligible
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>>148105143
pharah has a fucking gundam skin, you really dont think their art team cant think of a way to reference the characters while also avoiding potential copyright infringement?
shit i dont think the IP holders would even care, they might even be all for it for all we know
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>>148105389
I know Ster does. I'm not touching ranked until season 2
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>>148105443
K
>>148105446
K
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>>148105405
The game got pretty stale quickly, hopefully they will add more content soon(tm).
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>>148104891

Made me laff
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>>148105483
Blizzard may fix the tickrates, the hit boxes and buggy shit like roadhog's hook but they will NEVER and believe me when I say this they will never give a shit about fixing matchmaking because rng actually favors the bad players and bad players make up for way more than 50% of the total playerbase.
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>>148105541
well we're getting a new hero in a week
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decided to give 76 a try
got 5k damage before i had to switch cause we got stuck on the way to the third point
gotta love that perfect accuracy for the first four shots
this was absolutely hilarious, i honestly expected to miss cause my aim sucks
and if someone could give me the bit rates and stuff to make webms not look like shit i'd greatly appreciate it
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>>148105389
Not worth the cancer. I'll take my spray and icon and that is all.
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>>148105389
Might get mines in two weeks as I try to win 10 games each day. Im currently at 120 cp.

I wonder what rank ill be once I'm done as I don't plan on touching competitive ever again.
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>>148105601
I doubt that, we'll get a detail on her but I doubt she will be playable for season 1. PTR sure.

Then again who knows, ranked was a complete shitshow in the PTR yet they still shipped it with zero thought.
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twitch tv/ster/v/76590824?t=03h45m41s
threadly reminder this game is fun and balanced

how do you think hero stacking will be fixed in s2? seriously competitive is cancer and the only way to have fun right now is to not take it seriously and just give up all hope of increasing your rank

also 4chan thinks my post is spam so i'm just randomly fucking about with the link to see how to make it stop i'm sorry
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i just started playing

how do you deal with turrets?

played a game against two torbs and the turrets pinned the team in the starting choke
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>>148105620
>that crack shot
nice
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>>148105389

Masteroverwatch has picks of a Genji and a 76 one.


>>148105483

>tfw meme'd by bugs in placement
>still waiting for the leaver bug fix so i don't get cucked after a victory
>everytime i see all the people who climed several points i get the urge to play but if i got a leaver on the enemy team i know i'd be mad as fuck
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>>148105681
Reinhardt's when you get better at coordination
Pharah's
Dva's
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>>148105681
Pharah rockets
Soldier 76 helix
Genji deflect
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>>148105676
Its going to take a while for blizzard to finally swallow their pride and listen to the overwhelming community and pro player feedback that stacking is completely retarded.

No clue why they won't just disable it for comp play but keep it for quick play.

This "Blizzard knows best" bullshit needs to stop.
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>>148105681
The guys with the big splodey splahsy guns.
The snipers.
The weeb that can reflect their ass.
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>>148102619
>>148102619

You probably think the rest of the team sucks


you're probably not wrong
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>>148105657
>that mercy webm
every FUCKING time its posted theres just something about it
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>>148105620

bit rate > res

Your webm resolution is too high.
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>>148105631

I want the uncle munkle gun in gold, I'm going to get it, and you can't stop me so nyer.
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I'm not finding any hero that really clicks with me. I think I am just playing the game incorrectly. I always seem to die or have bad map awareness and suddenly walk into 5 enemies at once after leaving a building. What's a good hero that is very easy and I can play on autopilot while I focus more on the fundamentals rather than complexities of my hero
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Taunt kill emotes when
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>>148105620
>that sensitivity
i can tell you why your aim sucks
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>>148105804
>that lip
>The tongue
>Puts it back in after cumming deep inside
It's dangerous anon
>>148105912
Soldier 76
Pretty much call of duty with a heal
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Why is Soldier 76 able to counter everyone?
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>>148105684
wasnt all that impressive but thanks

>>148105928
im just used to maxing sensitivity in online fps. guess i should work on that lol
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>>148105995
he's a soft counter to everyone. Don't make him sound SSS tier because he's not
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>>148105995
Because he's mediocre unless you have non human tracking skills.
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How do you do cool jumps with lucio and stuff. It's very awkward for me to hold space bar while wall riding, because when I try to jump off the wall it's just hard..
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>>148105912

>autopilot
>map awareness
>fundamentals

Winston. Roadhog to a lesser degree.
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>>148105657
gonna need source on this
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>>148105681
>>148105739
>>148105751
>>148105786

Also, the monkey

Turrets are rubbish. Torb is becoming my least favorite teammate. Obviously, hanzo still exists so I'll never hate torb most.
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>>148106171
>Monkey
It will take winston about 6 or so seconds to kill a turret and any torb worth his salt will shotgun that no armor monkey before he can take it out
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>>148105995

That's not how you do a sex
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>>148106023
yeah, lower your sens, especially if you're playing soldier
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Isn't Torbs turret good at the first point in Hanamura behind the rocks in the middle?
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Best Girl
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>>148106265
Drop a shield right near the turret so it cant hit you.

It works most of the time unless the entire team is there to pop your bubble.
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So it turns out that 40 eliminations trumps 4 gold medals.
OK, I guess.
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>>148106365
I want to humiliate Pharah out in public.
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>>148106327
>Have friends who are used to playing console shooters
>Have to tell them virtually every time we play on pc that they should lower their sens to hit shots more accurately.
A concept some just can't grasp.
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>>148106337
Go Symettra instead, that first point on Hanamura is one of her best maps.
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>>148106265

Jump on them, pop your bubble right next to the router and aim the ticket gun at it seems to work pretty often. Bonus points if someone on your team is smart enough to get into the dome and shoot it with you.

It's not the best solution and you might/will die, but if there's no better option, meh.
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>>148106410
edgy
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>>148106327
getting bored playing my usual roster so i figured i'd give him a shot. it might help on everyone else though
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>>148106398
>5 gold medals
>Card is trance healing for Zen
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>>148106382
>>148106430
I'm not that anon but I'm a torb player.
You will most likely not destroy that turret before Torbjorn can kill you in my experience
There's better options to go for
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>>148106505

>support weekly braw.jpg
>>
>have a hilarious moment where i kill 5 people as they walk out of a teleporter individually
>play of the match goes to mercy for reviving two people
when will this meme end
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Can we please nerf Pharah now that all of Pharah's hard counters have themselves been nerfed?
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>>148105434
That nigger doesn't know what he's talking about.

First off torb is only really viable on volskaya and temple of anubis on defense and maybe in a cheesy way he can be ok on some KOTH maps but in general it's just those 2 maps.

The way to think about torb is that like Symmetra you're basically making a gambit when you pick them. For Symmetra the gambit is
>Our defense is overall going to be slightly weaker but if I can get my teleporter up we'll basically flat out win (assuming you don't place your portal in an obvious as fuck spot that gets sniped) unless my team gets instantly wiped by a wombo combo ult.

Except with Torb it's not actually the first point that you're trying to hold. It's the second. You're basically saying
>yeah the enemy team will probably take the first point but because i've poked at them a lot and I don't have retard aim I'll have my ult ready 100% for their snowball push on the second point and I will basically by myself be able to shut that shit right down.
After that point you can either switch to something else or if you're good enough at poking with your primary and know how to place your turret and when to switch up it's position you can keep on him to basically force the enemy team to try to deal with you. That said if you're trying to do that and there's a prolonged fight on the point where you die and your turret dies you should immediately switch to another character until your team stabilizes.

continued in part 2
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>>148105824
looks much better now, thanks
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>>148106554
if they walk out individually it obviously took too long to register as one play.

i dont understand how stupid some people can be sometimes. you guys arent fucking braindead just take your head out of your entitled ass, think a little before posting this kind of dribble, and stop complaining about every fucking thing under the sun
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>>148106604
There is literally nothing wrong with Pharah.
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>>148106605
continued from part 1
Now this might not seem like a very good gambit to do. After all saying that you're basically giving up the first point to deny 1 push seems dumb until you realize that on those 2 maps the offense has a massive advantage on the first point and will usually take it. While on the other hand generally speaking if the attacking team is going to take the second point it's during their snowball push right after capping the first point.

I've got a 72% win rate as torb at rank 65 so it works at least up until that point.

He's not bad he's just super niche.
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What if there was a hero that can steal enemy spells? You'd target it like Zenyetta's orb of discord?
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>>148106658
>complaining about people complaining
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>>148106710
There are no spells in OW, heroes have abilities.
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>>148102437
Stop trolling
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>>148106126
>Because he's mediocre unless you have non human tracking skills.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that but at the same time where all the people who have over 2000 hours in CS and Battlefield in this game? It seems like some of them could pick up soldier and have their skills easily carry over to the point of turning every match they're placed in into the no fun zone for the enemy team.
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>>148106710
Because most of them are abilties and not items and overwatches only real magicky things are Genji's blade and Hanzo ult.
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>>148106658
it happened in about 5-10 seconds nerd. i watched the highlight later and it fit perfectly
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>Playing with group
>Hanamura
>Choose Reinhardt on defense
>Enemy team all goes right
>Winston jumps my Medic
>Pin the winston
>Kill the Mercy and Genji with hammer swings
>I somehow get overwhelmed and die
>We lose 2nd point
>Next round get BTFO almost immediately
>Switch to s76 and push last hoping for a tie
>I somehow get a gold medal in damage despite not playing a DPS for 3 rounds
>We lose

AHHHHHHHHH
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>>148106710
It really depends on the rest of his kit and how it'd synergize with other characters abilities while at the same time not being too strong with certain shit.
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>>148106741
im not complaining im lecturing. they should know better. people on these boards are (often wrongly) opinionated but theyre not fucking dumbshits. just think ever holy shit
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>>148106814
>It seems like some of them could pick up soldier and have their skills easily carry over to the point of turning every match they're placed in into the no fun zone for the enemy team.

Doesnt work like that in this game. Sure you could do well but as soon as the bads get their I win button charged they will just kill you. And if they just so happened to use them with the rest of the bads on their team you could possibly lose the game off of it.
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>>148106521
>I'm a torb player.

All that means is you have a higher opinion of torbjorn than he deserves, just like every other torber :^)

>There's better options to go for

Literally said that myself m8. But when your sniper can't seem to hit a cow's arse with a banjo and your genji is off doing whatever the fuck genji does then what the fuck is a monkey to do eh?
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>>148106681

There's a ton wrong with Pharah.
>>
>three ranks down in one morning
Fuck my life.
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>>148106775
It can actually work on lijiang tower where the gazebo in the center has a bridge connecting it to the edge of the map. That said it's not particularly strong at rank 60-70 but it's definitely viable.
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>>148106365
too bad she's not in a jumpsuit so she gets no fanart
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>>148106689
>generally speaking if the attacking team is going to take the second point it's during their snowball push right after capping the first point.
I can't count the number of times I've pulled this shit on Anubis.
>We take the first point just as some more teammates arrive.
>We don't even fucking stop. I drop speed boost as Lucio and we just JET SET RADIOOO straight into the second point within seconds, oftentimes before the enemy has even finished setting up their defenses there or even respawning.
>Press Q to ensure ally team can push through the defenses that DID get up.

Shit like that should be PotG, but I imagine coding the detection for it would be a nightmare.
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>>148106756
What if there was a hero that could steal abilities?

>>148106835
Rubick can fire rockets even though he doesn't have a rocket launcher?

>>148106873
20 second cooldown on abilityl steal
lasts for 15 seconds
Ultimate changes all damage taken into healing and healing into damage
Right click is a chain heal that heals 100 hp instantly and bounces to another 4 nearby targets, decreasing by 25% per target 1.5 second cooldown
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>>148102437

Oh no its that guy
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What's the difference between health, armor(yellow bar) and shields (blue bar)?
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>Be rank 68
>Solo queue mainly
>Play today
>Lose every single game
>Now rank 55

Today was not a good day for ranked, anyone else have days like this?
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>>148107091
Is this your first FPS? (Not to mention simple stuff like that is easily read from wikis.)
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>>148107014
>I can't count the number of times I've pulled this shit on Anubis.
Pretty much. And that's why Torb is genuinely good on it. That snowball momentum gets fucked.
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>>148107149
>>148106993
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>>148106461
>having a healthy sexual attraction to the hottest vidya grill is edgy
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>>148107149

>Solo queuing

You poor soul. I can divide my losses into 4 quarters. Teammate picks Hanzo, Teammate picks Zenyatta, Teammate picks Mei, or I play like shit
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>>148107009
What a shame
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>>148107149
Just stop after the first few losses. You're letting your anger from previous games flow over and mess with your concentration.
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>>148107021
Because it's magic, you ain't gotta explain shit.
But many of the things in overwatch are based on science fiction type ideals and also throwing a character like that into this game will throw balance all out of whack, especially when pretty much every character has an ability they can't afford to give to the enemy.
If you want to play Rubick go play dota 2
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>>148107181
I'm a huge CODfag so this stuff is new to me
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>>148107264
does anyone even give a sh*t about overwatch's lore?

>>148107262
>>148107246
>>148107238
>>148107229
>>148107190
>>148107181
>>148107149
>>148107091
>>148107070
>>148107291
do you?
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>>148107229
>having a healthy sexual attraction
>humiliate Pharah out in public

You what?
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>>148107318
I wouldn't say I'm indifferent, but it's certainly not a deal breaker.
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>>148107014
>but I imagine coding the detection for it would be a nightmare.
not really.
it's just that POTG's are really short, probably under 10 seconds, so there'd really be no way it could show your snowball push within that constraint.
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>Soldier 76's age is unknown despite him having been a well-known Strike Commander in the public eye and also being the subject of controversy
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>>148107264
Just say he controls nanites and builts shit instantly with them.

Nanites are basically the science fictions stand in for magic

>>148107318
I'm mildly interested in it but it's not nearly flushed out enough to actually care. I hope they keep expanding it though with motives for talon and shit.
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>>148107318
I don't look up every single bit of lore there is, only for the characters I like best,
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>>148107091
Armor reduces damage under 10 by half and anything over that by 5. This might sound lame at first but it works to protect you against rapid fire weapons, Winston's shocks, and each individual shotgun pellet. However, it doesn't help you against huge single bursts of damage like sniper fire or Genji's dragon blade because 120-5 is still 115 damage. Shields are what you'd expect. They regenerate over time if you aren't taking damage.
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>>148107014

>get Lucio's highlight intro in one of my first loot boxes
>hundreds of hours on Lucio, most played character by far
>60+% winrate as Lucio so I'm clearly doing something right
>have literally never seen my highlight intro. 0 potg as Lucio.
>bop their Reinhardt, mercy and McCree into the well during overtime and win the game? Fuck you, here's a potg where torbjorn runs back from spawn and gets a double kill by randomly popping his molten core
>give the team a sound barrier at the precise moment they need to survive an ult, then leadf the push to get the payload the last ten metres, while you keep the team up? Fuck off m8, hanzo is staring at a wall muttering gibberish, that's a potg.

tl;dr It's not fair. I salty
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>>148107091
Health is health
Shields regenerate
Armor doesn't regenerate, but reduces incoming damage while it is up
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>>148107395
Does any real life currency have a honeycomb texture? It looks like it would be annoying to manufacture without defects.
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>>148107318
It's a lesser point that it's stupid and a lazy gameplay mechanic but more that either he's absolute shit or a must pick in every game because he can steal ultimates against characters who don't really have another ability to use
>NERF THIS
>Yoink!
>I've got you in my si-
>GIMME DAT
>DIE DIE-D
>THANK YOU
He will either be worthless or too strong
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WHEN THE FUCK ARE THE NEW SKINS/NEW HERO/NEW MAP


I'M DYING HERE

MOST OF THESE SKINS SUCK ASS
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>>148107318
id prefer if the magic stayed to the weaboo pleasers
however the sci-fi setting is fun, no need to muck it up with nonsense. Even the mythical refrences to games like wow are turned more sci fi (the murlocs are aliens) etc

but yeah the lore seems fun, specially since the starcraft 2 lore was just the three races and not as personal as this sci-fi setting
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>>148106859
highlights play more than play of the match cuts. they include a lot more.
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The maintenance this Tuesday is the D.Va buff, right?

Right?
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>rolling kids as Bastion on Hollywood comp
>die to a "JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE" solely for me
>Respawn
>SCreen is blurred
>can't move
>hit menu
>can't do anything
>get kicked for afk
>lose game

Thanks.
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What do you think the next purchasable customizations are going to be?

My suggestions:
- Custom Character Icon (different expression or even animated)
- Custom background music for your POTG
- Animated sprays
>>
Took a break for a week.

Did lolkiddies kill this game yet?
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>>148107517
nope
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>>148107531
I hope so, Anon.
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>>148107534
>kicked
>lose

How do you know?
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>>148107531
If I had to guess i'd say D.va will get her buff in a week or two but next this tuesday.

>>148107579
Nope.
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>>148107467
just keep up those environmental kills. Pretty much the only way to do it

Also, I don't believe you have even 50+ hours on Lucio and haven't gotten PotG. I've got 20 and have easily gotten atleast 20-30. Almost always get it with a 2+ environmental kill
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>>148102619
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>>148107419

>Soldier 76's age is unknown
>76

m8...
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>>148106974
This is what Genji is off doing m8
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>>148107491
>It looks like it would be annoying to manufacture without defects.

Bees seem to manage ok. Are you smarter than a bee?

(Coming on Fox®, fall 2016)
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>>148107531
I'd love that. But since they haven't said anything about it for a while - at least not to my knowledge anyway - it feels like we'll just have to keep on waiting...
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>>148106710
>Souichiro Nagi
>250 HP
>Primary attack: Melee, does 30 damage per hit
>Ability one: Throws a rock. Attack does 50 damage. If this attack hits and Nagi has not yet used his ultimate, ultimate is charged 15 percent.
>Ability two: Dodge roll with a gew invincibility frames
>Ultimate: Dragon's Fist. When activated, Nagi charges in a straight line, grabbing the enemy. If the attack hits a target, it does minimal damage, but Nagi is able to use the weapons and abilities of the character he has attacked (sans ultimate). Nagi can steal the abilities of all enemies and switch between them using a dedicated hotkey. When Nagi dies, he loses all gained abilities, even if he is revived.
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>>148107563
That McCree cosplay is spot on
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>>148107318
i've read most of the character story snippets on the site and wiki'd a couple pages about the omnic crisis. sorta neat I guess

i've read a couple things here or there about how reaper is some freakshow mercy made out of another overwatch agent or something, is there actual lore for that somewhere or is it just a headcanon theory thing, cause all reaper's story section says is DUDE, THERE'S THIS GUY, AND HE KILLS DUDES SUPER HARD. LIKE DUDE HE EATS THEIR SOULS AND DOESN'T AFRAID OF ANYTHING. LEMME SHOW YOU MY SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG OC
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>>148107531
>>148107603
>>148107623
NO FUCK OF IT'S THE NEW HERO/SKINS

IT HAS TO

I CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT ANY MORE
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>>148107594
incorrigible some of you
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>>148107623
>>148107623
>but not**** this tuesday.
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>McCree gets nerfed
>Widowmaker gets nerfed
>the meta instantly devolves into Pharah + Mercy spamfests
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>>148107493
>>NERF THIS
Self destructs himself without any pilot mode
>>Yoink!
Tracer has 2 other spells
>>I've got you in my si-
Helix Rockets and Medkit is are skills
>>GIMME DAT
Roadhog heal is a skill
>>DIE DIE-D
Reaper has his phase shift and teleport
>>THANK YOU
Torbjorn's armor ability will only last for 15 seconds, you can maybe get 2-3 armor packs out before having to borrow it again

>>148107509
>>148107685
What if he's an engineer like torbjorn but he uses his engineering to engineer a engineered staff that let's him use magic that's actually just a product of engineering (see: mercy)
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>>148103569
Your first placement game will be put against shitty players the more you win the better the players they throw against you
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>>148107708
New skins at the end of this month. Calling it now.
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>>148107685
He alludes to something happening between him and Mercy with his in game voiceline
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>>148107778
Jeff did say summer skins are coming.
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>>148107419
Because the bio is going from the perspective that he's a vigilante with a hidden identity. Which is true from an in-universe angle. It's not listing Morrison's age, it's listing Soldier: 76 the fugitive's age which would be unknown.

Anyway you can use some guess work to figure it out or get a good idea. If the Omnic Crisis was 30 years ago he is X + 30. We know he entered the military at age eighteen but did the Omnic Crisis happen in the same year? If yes he's about 48 at the youngest. If you add about 4 years or so he's 52.

>>148107657
It's a 1776 reference. Reinhardt's said to be the oldest (61) so 76 can only be 60 at the absolute oldest.
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>>148107685
Reaper is gabriel reyes, he and s76 were the heads of overwatch until reaper went full edgelord.
You missed lots of shit

>>148107821
Yeah but technically summer ends in september or some shit.

And we have a new hero coming soon
HOPEFULLY it's this week.
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>>148107737
Yoink gimme dat and thank you were things he would say while grabbing the ults anon
Also Reaper can't use any abilities while ulting, Roadhog can't either.
On top of that, him being able to steal ultimates while having his own ultimate effectively gives him two ultimates, one that also makes his team invincible.
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What's a respectable rank range?
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>>148107921
50+
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>having Mercy and Lucio on the same team is a guaranteed win on any payload map

Can Lucio's healing be gutted yet? Making your team immune to chip damage invalidates half of the roster.
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post dmg done average, i bet bastion is at the top for all you
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>>148107883
>HOPEFULLY it's this week.

I just read on Twitter the reveal is gonna be at sdcc on the 21st
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>>148107889
What if you had to be in really close range (like just beside them) to steal ultimates?
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>playing comp
>teammate asks for someone to play Genji to hunt their healers since they're running Lucio and Mercy
>I go Genji
>mercilessly hunt their healers
>Mercy complains in all-chat about nobody killing me
>S76 and Tracer start hunting me
>kill Tracer and damage their S76
>he's running away to get the healthpack next to the stairs
>beat him to it and melee him while he's running in to the room
I wish that was my highlight instead of this.
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>>148107947
I'll check when I get home from work but I'd be willing to bet mine is Junkrat
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>>148107632
>I don't believe you have even 50+ hours on Lucio

Actually, you're right. I looked it up and it's more like 35 hours across QP and comp. I forgot about all the time I played mercy when I started playing.

I told a fib by mistake, sorry.

Still salty that I've never seen my hard light decks and wub wub wub intro though. I know potg is meaningless and just feeds your epeen, but I still would like one. I wish they'd change the criteria for how you get one. It must also be frustrating if you're an attack based payee and you pull off some mega gunplay and then you see torb get potg for doing literally fuck all.
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>>148107958

That's a behind the scenes look; she'll have been launched by then.
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>>148107963
>but more that either he's absolute shit or a must pick in every game
That's the character you are making.
A character so powerful they either throw the game completely out of whack or make them so weak they might as well not be there
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>>148107947
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>>148107946
Then stop playing that half of the roster or actually coordinate and fuck over the healers. As a Mercy AND a Lucio player, the absolute worst thing you can fucking do is focus me or the person I'm pocketing.

Why the fuck do you think Lucio is always wallriding? He doesn't want your ass to touch him because he is a fragile little beatboxer.
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>>148108049
Genjis are either merciless squishy killing machines or feeders. There's no in-between.
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Tracer nerfs are coming next, right?
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>>148108102
That's about player skill, not about the fundamentally broken kit of the character.
Come on anon, you know that.
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>>148108089
I'll focus you, with my COCK!
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>>148107921
As long as you're above rank 50 you're fine but don't brag about your rank by any means unless you're at the very least rank 60 and really if you're a try hard you should be humble unless you're close to rank 70

That said this will change over the course of the first season as people play more (except 50+ will always be the minimum)
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>>148108128
She's squishy.
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>>148108128

Pharah nerfs first literally all she needs is 175 hp. Tracer nerfs will be something like her pistols take 1.2-1.5 seconds to fully empty, tho.
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>>148108147
But anon, Genji already steals ults in close range.
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>>148107963

Why do you people get married to your stupid idea? Let it go man ffs. No more "what if?"
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>>148107958
That's a behind the scenes like they did with other heroes, I think they did it with mei after release.

While it could be released later, doing a rundown and a behind the scenes of a hero that's not released yet but already announced sounds kinda weak.
They already teased sombra last week and blizzard usually does one or two teases each week and then reveal next week.
There's a chance it could be sombra this week, but who knows.
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>>148108191
Yeah I don't mind her mobility, it's the absurd damage output she gets at the same time.
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>>148107978
>beating someone to the healthpack
god i love that shit. especially bonking them out of the way with d.va's jets and then plopping down on the pack right in front of them

now i kinda want to get the ~winky face~ line specifically for that
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>>148107947
my top is widowmaker
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>>148108191
Pharah doesn't need a nerf, you just need to stop being bad.
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>>148107958
there's people claiming it's this week
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Why is this game so mind-fuckingly frustrating, no other game has ever made me feel so angry
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>>148108195
He can reflect it's effects in his small two second window, with which he has to anticipate it for it to work, he can't grab it and decide to hold it for use later
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So ranked is broken and I should avoid it right?
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>>148108292
Not even LoL or Hearthstone?
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>>148108252

>Getting topped by widowmaker using a strap on and calling you vermin

I hope this doesn't awaken something within me. brb fapping
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>>148108128
>add 1 second to the cooldown of her blink

ez.
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>>148108346
Dont play LoL, and no, Hearthstone doesn't really frustrate me either
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>>148108292
Because there's so much bullshit you can't do anything about.
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>>148108292
Play quick play and go wild.

Got my cute Genji spray from killing 5 people with my ultimate as I know ill never be able to pull it off in competitive.

Also got a Zenyatta PotG 3 times as no one wants me to play him in competitive.
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>>148108292
I take it you havent played hearthstone then.


That game transforms people into reaper
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Can you faggots post links to the previos thread in OP?
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>>148108292
>never played Dota where you lose a 40+ minute game because of one fuck up

Anon pls you know nothing.
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>>148105389
Just picked up my hundredth point. It takes a while when stuck in win-half-lose-half land.

>>148105657
Going to stop after just getting one gold weapon? When there's still 20 others, plus more whenever they add new characters?

Come to think of it, has there been any indication how much you'd get from end-of-season placements?
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>>148108320
I'll be honest here, I thought you guys were talking about Ganja Shibango when I first replied to you. His idea about a hero who steals ults is literally retarded, though. It's like that kid who always answered that the superpower he wanted was to steal other people's superpowers.
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Is attacking easier than defending IRL too? I always thought defending would be easier.
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>>148108489
This.

>you do well in your lane
>both of your other lanes lose their lanes HARD
>know that you're literally just wasting time for the next 25 minutes.
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>>148108362

>strap on
>not futa

It's like you don't enjoy having your ass filled with spunk
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>>148108254

>pharah doesn't need a nerf

yes, she does
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>>148108559

Defending is way easier in real life.
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>>148108585
Only if it goes both ways.
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>>148108559
Defending is pretty OP in real life.
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>>148107947
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Gold shurikens for Carbon Fiber look pretty cool, fampai
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>>148108292

My theory is that it's because you're so reliant on other people on your team and when they seem to be purposely fucking up your fun it induces rage.
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>>148108586
Not him but mercy damage boost needs a nerf.
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>>148107947
I'm going to bring Widowmaker to the very top by aiming at nothing but Reinhardt's shield.

That'll show you.
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>>148108649
>carbon genji
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>>148108649
the gold weapons don't actually do that little "shine" animation ingame that they do in the hero gallery right?
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>>148108559
Through most of history defending was much easier than attacking, which is why wars tended to drag out to years and years.

These days, though, attacking is much easier thanks to missiles.
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>>148108685
t. has bad taste in skins
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>>148108649
Just a shame that absolutely nobody else will ever be able to tell that you have them.
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>tfw the best counter to Tracer is a damage boosted Helix rocket
>the best counter to Tracer is anything that kills her in literally one hit before she can even react

Why is this allowed?
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>>148108747
how does it feels being 14 years old anon
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>>148108779
You ask like you never were 14 years old yourself which means you are under 14 years old, so let me ask How does it feel to be 12 years old anon?
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>>148108764
high risk high reward :^)
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>>148108779
I can't remember. Just wait a couple years and you'll find out for yourself.
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>>148108764
There's mcree

But then you'd be playing mcshit and if she's good it makes landing flashbang and then lining up the headshot a pain.
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>>148108649
Chrome > Classic > Carbon
my opinions > your opinions
my waifu/husbando > your waifu/husbando
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>>148108738
nerf Pharah IRL
>>148108764
>anything that kills her in literally one hit before she can even react
don't we call them snipers?
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>>148108747
Are you going to link your twitch channel next?
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>>148108905
do you know how fucking hard it is to headshot snipe a tracer
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>>148108898
Only contrarians think Chrome is better. It's like people who say Amber is better than Cobalt.
>>148108949
Yeah, it's twitch tv/esl_overwatch
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>>148108905
Even bad Tracers are still fairly hard to snipe, especially if they're fighting somebody else.
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>>148108840
I don't get this. She's really not high risk, she has an unbelievable amount of defensive abilities, more than any other hero. Her low health doesn't matter when most heroes will never even come close to hitting her.

You wanna talk about high risk high reward, play something like Zenyatta. Heroes might melt but so do you.
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>>148108747
But carbon fiber sucks ass.
But then again YOU ARE playing or maybe even MAINING genji
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too bad you won't see it when you ult neither will anyone else
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>>148108292
Low player agency
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I want pharah to bully me untill i get mad and push her. Then she wrestles me into a headlock and unintentionally smothers me with her boobs and laughs at me for getting a boner. I get embarrassed and stop fighting back so she straddles my waist and make me punch myself for being a naughty boy.
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>>148109042
Actually, I'm a tankcuck
>>
>forever solo
>Someone installs Lucio
>I go mercy
>Chat explodes "2 support wut"
>Heal lucio while he pushes the nearly invincible team forward
>Win, keep winning
>Mfw
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>>148109112
kys
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>>148104221
Where can I go to figure that out?
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mei is the most fun hero in the game throwing ur ult down walling off an exit, invuning then headshoting them while they cant do shit, post who u think is the most fun champ
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>>148108559
sonething something Russia in the winter.
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Holy shit I'm reading about this ranked system and it is literally the worst I have ever seen.
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>>148109135
You must be a low rank. I've literally never had a group complain about double support.
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>>148109023
>Amber is better than Cobalt.
but neither of those are good
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>>148109183
You can't. You can go to masteroverwatch but their ranking system only includes people that sign up on their website. It might be reasonable to think that if you're in the top 1% on the website that you could actually be in the top 1% but when it comes to hard numbers like the top 1,000 it's far from reliable.
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>>148109183
masteroverwatch.com
overbuff.com
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who's to say gold guns will be the only thing you can get with competitive points? Maybe there will be cheaper stuff for 100 or 50 or even 25 competitive points, like emotes, voice lines, or sprays
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>>148109219
Never before have I seen an opinion that was so incorrect.
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>>148109216
>he still thinks rank tells how skilled you are in this game
>probably because he got good rng and is above 50s or 60s
lol you are a silly person.
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>>148108649
>>148108898
>>148109023
>>148109219
All of the Genji skins suck
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>>148108649
>>148108898
>>148109023
I unironicly like and use Sparrow.
>>
New hero

Ruby the Grand Tinkerer
You can keep your magic, I have laser beams!


LMB: In between of Mercy's and D.va's Light Gun

RMB: Chain Healing -heals for 120 hp and bounces to 4 other nearby targets at 20% healing reduction.
1.7 second cooldown,

E: Borrow ability, steals the last used spell of enemy heroes
20 second cooldown, 15 second duration.

Ultimate: causes all damage to be done as healing and all healing to damage your team. self-healing abilities will also damage your team mates.

Enemy mercy's can now target your teammates to damage them with her heal, enemy Lucio's Aura will hurt your team, Zenyetta's Orb of Harmony can be placed on your teammates to damage them and Transcendence will damage your teammates as well.
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>>148109354
t. rank 45 shitter
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>>148109354
Found the 40-something rank shitter. You're right anon. You're not complete garbage it's RNG!
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>>148109332
>who's to say gold guns will be the only thing you can get with competitive points?
a retard?

they are going to start doing weapon skins just like CS:GO, because it's a massively successful business there so might as well grab a slice of the cake
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>Competitive ranking is based on personal performance
>Soloque should be fine then
>Nepal
>Play my ASS off as Rein
>Play the remainder of my ass off as Lucio when someone refused to swap back to support from Hanzo
>Trying to hold the team together, carry them hard into double overtime
>Team arguing and blaming each other whole time
>Four gold medals almost entire game
>Finally lose
>"It's okay, I had four golds, the loss won't hurt that bad"
>Lose an ENTIRE bar and de-rank
>COMPETITIVE RANKING IS BASED ON PERSONAL PERFORMANCE

I quit. I give up. Without a full team of competent people ranked is impossible in its current state, and because ranked exists no one takes quickplay seriously in the slightest
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>>148109216
I'm 51.

Life is pain.
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>>148109463
I feel like what they'll do is weapon skins will be competitive points only while character skins will be where they get the long term money.
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>>148108292
>characters move super slow

This is my biggest problem. Everyone claims the game is fast paced but even with shit splash damage pharah rockets are easy as fuck to land because every character has less speed than the heavy in tf2.

Also the fucking teleporter is an ult.

The game is slow as molassses
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>>148109431
>RMB: Chain Healing -heals for 120 hp and bounces to 4 other nearby targets at 20% healing reduction.
>1.7 second cooldown
>>
New update dropping this friday

any speculation on what it could contain?
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>>148109373
Sparrow looks okay desu senpai
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>>148109434
>>148109462
>they try to mock the poster rather than deny what the post istelf is implying with a valid argument
Soooo are you going to post anything with an actual value? or just project your own rank? Keep going lol.
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>Pharah can kill you very easily at close range
>she has no damage falloff so she can still kill you from any distance

This is dumb, blizzard.
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>>148109023
For those of us who wore Judgement Armor and raid-healed pre-TBC, they're familiar colours.
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>>148109539
that's very naive of you, this is Activision we're talking about here

they already have crates in place, now they have a system that allows you to select weapon skin separate from the hero skin
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>>148109582
Source?
>>
PATCH NOTES:
>D.Va
Guns now deal slightly increased damage.
Critbox removed from MEKA.
>Lucio
Passive healing song's effectiveness reduced.
Amping up Healing song will drastically increase the effectiveness compared to Live.
>McCree
FtH now has a cooldown similar to Helix Rockets that prevents overuse.
FtH damage increased to a value directly between its current value and the old value.
>Mercy
Ressurection charges at 75% of the rate that it currently does.
HP restoration and Damage increase will decay over time after extended use on the same target, but will provide a higher "surge" of healing/buff when intially used on a new target.
>Roadhog
Hook will now stun Roadhog the same amount of time that the hooked foe is stunned.
>Tracer
Now has Zenyatta's old HP value.
>Zenyatta
Now has Tracer's old HP value.
Orb of Harmony no longer provides healing, but instead sets the tagged player's HP value to be identical to Zenyatta's current HP value, essentially rendering them immortal so long as the orb is on them and Zenyatta plays defensively.
Orb of Discord no longer provides bonus damage, but completely removes/negates armor and shields from the target so long as it is applied.
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>>148109487
>Competitive ranking is based on personal performance

whatever gave you that idea
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>>148109028
zen is high shit shit reward
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>>148109434
>>148109462
t. luckers who are above 50s rank
lol you guys can't be more delusional can you?
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>>148109582
source, there's claims that it's on the 12th during the maintenance
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>>148109640

The game did. The game takes performance metrics as well as win/loss into account.
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>>148109648
I'm not sure what reaction you're expecting.
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>>148109582
This friday has a new update? source?

Anyways for the next update I expect Zenyatta to get a buff, he's mediocre at best. I've seen some good players pull of shit with him, but in the long run he dies way too easily to even be effective. A tracer can just run to him, shoot for a second and kill him.
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>>148109629
t. assmad lolbabby who thinks FPS games should be balanced like his stripped down, skilless, RNG based RTS game aka MOBAs.
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>>148109603
>make a claim with absolutely no evidence to support it
>expecting people to attack said claim?
What can be put forth without evidence can be dismissed without evidence shitter

>doesn't even try to deny that he's a 40-something shitter
huehuehue
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>>148109603
>>148109672
At least try to make your samefagging a little bit inconspicuous.
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>>148109629
kys
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>>148109606

I'll take dodging slow things for 200, Alex.
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>>148109582
>friday
you mean tuesday
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>>148109614
>For those of us who wore Judgement Armor and raid-healed pre-TBC

Nobody did that because Judgement was shit for healing.

Everyone was a turban nigger with ZG blues until AQ40 sets.
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>>148109540
20 seconds to go from spawn to point A on most maps when on defense and 5 seconds when on point B

Not only the speed is shit, but the map design is shit too
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>>148109742

>pharah rockets
>slow
>deals splash damage
>no damage falloff with splash damage
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>>148109721
>no evidence
So does that mean you just tuned into this board into this thread and didn't even bother to read the last 5 posts before that one?
lol you are incredibly funny keep going I'm interested in reading more of your posts.
also I haven't and won't play competitive ever
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>>148109842
A GLOWING RED ORB COMING TOWARD ME, OH GOD WHAT DO I DO SHOULD I STAND DIRECTLY IN ITS PATH????

WTF NERF PHARAH OMG
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>>148109842
>splash damage
>1/5th the damage of a direct
>8 characters in the game can heal themselves

yeah nah you're stupid
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>>148109629
I can get behind the Lucio (as long as the amp up cooldown was reduced by one second), McCree changes (as long as the cooldown is only about 4 seconds), and Mercy changes but the rest are retarded

Also what the fuck do you mean by 'hp value' on tracer and Zen, they both have the same overall health
Unless you're saying that Tracer should only have 50 health and Zen shouldn't have shields, and both of those ideas are retarded
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>>148109551
is it too much or too little
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>>148109629
>make zenyatta even shittier
>not really fixing the hook problem
>making mercy's lackluster healing even worse
>just a 75% multiplier on mercy's rev when it can change the tides of a game
>promoting lucio to not be near his teammates by making his passive healing shit

nah
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>complaining about Pharah being OP

The only real issue with Pharah is that she is light skinned when history tells us that Egyptians were actually dark skinned Africans.
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You listen to beats while playing Lucio, right?
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>>148109842
>splash damage
are you a retard? her splash damage is absolute shit. Only direct hits do good damage
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>>148109842
>I can't dodge things coming a mile away
>I get flanked by pharah all the time
>I like to get into close enough engagements with Pharah that I might as well be salsa dancing with her
Sounds like you just like dying to Pharah
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>>148109902
>>148109978

>24 damage for not hitting someone
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>>148109960
WE
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>>148109842
pharah's rockets are slow, but all the characters in overwatch are slow as fuck too so it doesn't matter
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>>148109703
No it doesn't.

That is and has always been a lie every single "competitive" game tells you.

The only thing that matters is if you win or lose.
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>>148110008
WUZ
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>>148109870
Are you asking if I read my own posts and the posts I specifically replied to?

>I haven't and won't play competitive ever

Lewl even worse than a 40-something shitter.

Have fun thinking you literally know anything about what indicates how good somebody is in a game.

>>148109975
I put this video on repeat in the background while playing lucio.
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>>148110006
if you let a pharah hit you 7 times with a splash rocket before you kill her, then yeah, you'll die

congrats
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>>148110076
SECURITY
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>>148110076
KIAAAAAAAAAAAANGS
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>>148110091
Shit forgot the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWmfNeLs7fA
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>>148110003

>only three characters in the game can reliably deal with her in mid-air
>two of them have been nerfed
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Shooting D.VA feels like a waste of my time. Hell, even acknowledging she exists makes me feel like I should be somewhere else in-game.
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>>148102997
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Why are you people responding to shitters? Ignore them and they go away.
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Is anyone else playing Lucio, Symettra and Pharah exclusively to honor the Black Lives Matter movement?
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>>148109975
This is obvious:
>Jet Set Radio Future - Concept of Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4IEV8l-gA
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>>148110298
These are meme beats. I meant real beats.
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how can people tolerate this game as much as this
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>>148110280
>lolbabs and dotards leaving
>ever

get used to it
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>>148110290
>tfw no police officer skin to kill brown characters with.
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>>148110360
My bad. Here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou-xCHFdG0c
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>>148110216

I kind of feel like that's the point of the character. Whenever I play her I always just dive the point and hope I can be distracting enough for my team to make some headway. Seems to work out most of the time. Sometimes I can even catch a squishy out of position and frag them.
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>>148110373
>almost level 400
>rank 55
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>Friends all hyped over memewatch
>They all preorder
>Game comes out
>They havin fun with the game
>They all tell me to buy it
>No thanks
>One of them lends me their account to try it so I enjoy that "fun" and buy it.
>lmao no way i'm buying this shit
>Tell them it will go stale and boring before week 2
>It happens
>They stop playing it
oh shit was I gifted with foresight? or I guess it was just to obvious that something as badly designed as this would end up stale so soon
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>>148110207
>I need to be able to use my retarded inaccurate six shooter skill on Pharah from miles away
>I need to fucking quickscope Pharah for some reason
What the fuck?
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>>148110392
McCree will have to do.
>exclusively chase lucio down
>high noon just for him
>JUSTICE AINT GONNA DISPENSE ITSELF
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>>148110479
Nice blog, normie
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>>148110479
wow your friends bought a game, played it and then stopped playing it

thanks for the incredibly interesting blog post
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>>148110498
Dude just stop responding to him.
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>>148110392
Security Chief Pharah could count as a police-type force skin, there's always the war-like S76 skins (and just S76 in general) and I guess McCree in pretty much any of his skins can feel like a vigilante Deputy.
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>>148102997
>not going hanzo to hit those EZ meatshots on that lardass target
>not getting an ult every minute due to the damage you spam and some he heals back
>not letting THE WOLF HUNTS FOR ITS PREY AWWOOOOOOOWOOOOOOOOOOooooooo


but seriously, stay out of hook range and keep landing those tastey meatshots
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>>148110479
>all my friends stopped playing Overwatch
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tfw the only thing I want to do anymore in Overwatch is play Junkrat
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>>148109929
>Suggested cooldown changes to Lucio's Amp and FtH.
Yeah, that all seems fair.
>What the fuck do you mean by "HP Value" on Tracer/Zen?
The idea is that Zen's health, despite being numerically the same as Tracer's, makes him feel much more fragile than Tracer does (mostly because she can dodge the shit out of anything with good reactions while Zen can't). I figured that making Zen's HP more health-oriented and making Tracer's health rely more on shields would encourage Tracer players to not commit to long-term skirmishes and to retreat to let the shields recharge. The idea with Zen was that hopefully he could be made to not be fragile as shit, but I'll admit I didn't put a lot of thought into that one.

>>148109954
>Not really fixing the hook problem.
Well, the first solution I came up with was "make the servers not 20 tick", but you and I both know that ain't happening, so this was the next-best solution I could come up with. It also prevents the Hookshot combo from being something completely anti-response, and encourages teammates to dogpile onto the hapless loon that's been hooked instead of letting Avenuebacon just melt them himself.
>just a 75% on Mercy's ult
The last time I brought this up, people stated that the value given there (60%) was too harsh a punishment and that they still wanted to be able to make rez plays beyond The Big One.
>Promoting lucio to not be near his teammates by making his passive healing shit
Just press E and deter a minor push. It ain't hard. And I'm not even talking about a massive nerf to the passive healing, either, just enough to make it not like having a team of 6 Mercys sucking your team's collective dicks all the time just for keeping with the beat.
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>>148110373
>level 400
>sub 60
are people really this shit? holy fuck
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>>148110557
Riverboat mcree looks straight out of the confederation
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Why do you lose so much rank on a loss yet gain virtually nothing when you win?
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Im going to play nothing but Tracer until I am the best Tracer and then Tracerfags will bully me no more because I will be better than them
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>>148109789
Tons of paladins did. Maybe not simultaneously, at least.
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>>148110454
im almost lvl 200 and hover around 50-55.
i know for sure this is my peak. unless i start going tryhard mode, grouping up, planning strats with a stack im going to be at this level forever. is that so deplorable? to just be an average gamer?
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>Several 200+ players on my team, average team level is 150
>Not a single 100+ player on the other team
>Welp
>Lock Lucio, prepare for easy KOTH win
>We get bodied hard because two of the 200+ players were fucking around playing hanzo and symmetra and the rest of the team refused to stay in my LOS for healing
I thought when you guys said level is absolutely irrelevant to skill you were meming because I could not imagine someone could play the game that long and not pick up basic skills
But I was wrong
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>>148110630
no one cares
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>>148109975
>listening to music when sound is integral to the gameplay
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>>148108585

I might. I never tried it.
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>>148110637
Mediocrity should not be applauded and one should not settle for shit anon.
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Are you more of a maneuver player or an aim player?

Former here
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>>148110606
what about zenyatta?
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>>148110669
>not being able to do both
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>>148110479
> Comes into the /owg/ to shitpost because his friends got sick of all the "I told you so"
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>>148110691
Maneuver because I can't aim for shit.
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>>148102202
Oh the nostalgia
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>>148110669
>listening to djent music while playing Reinhardt 150% volume
>still able to hear Reaper's STOMP STOMP STOMP
based sound designers
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>>148110669

>music gets in the way of game sound when ultis and footsteps are louder than new year's fireworks

Couldn't expect more of a weeb waifufag that is probably isn't even 60+
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Even rebbitors complain about tracer now

Nerf is coming, 50 hp tracer incoming
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>>148110691
>>148110763
>point
>click

How the fuck is this hard for you people? The recoil in this game is even a joke too, even Soldier has a great accuracy at medium range on full burst.
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>>148110810
I'd be happy with blink and recall showing her path. Fucking mosquito is hard to keep track of.
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>>148110691
I'm playing with 5 dollars' mouse, so the former. Winston main as well :)
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>>148110669
>>148109975
Honestly playing lucio with music should be a requirement.

I don't know why the fuck they don't make his tunes sound higher, they're already fully fledged pieces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnJs_V4j1hs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEuCcywh12Q
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>>148110691
Former who's getting much better at the latter recently. Playing Lucio for tens of hours has really helped with my shot leading for projectile characters.
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>>148110648
I'm level 187 and I can't hit a stationary Bastion half the time
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>>148110857
>implying mlg gamer mice help you play better apart from the hotkeys on the side
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>>148110851
it literally does

pay attention
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>>148110698
The suggested changes to Zenyatta came from an honest feeling that while he's really fun, every single time I slap an orb of harmony on somebody, it feels like I should be playing Mercy or Lucio instead. To add to that, the healing doesn't feel particularly significant, and boosting the rate of healing would only really serve to make two Mercys. Additionally, having the tagged player's HP sync with Zenyatta's would fit with the "harmony" theme.
The Orb of Discord change was an afterthought, and an admittedly mediocre one at that. It could honestly stay where it's at now and be fine.
As it is, Zenyatta feels like the sort of dude that you bring along your road trip as a co-pilot. He keeps you on your path, helps you find your way through problems, and pounds shit in the face with flying orbs when you need it, instead of being somebody that helps the whole team simultaneously, Zen feels like the sort of "Partner" support that pockets people.
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Will zenyatta ever be buffed?

>>148110810
I hate a competent tracer. They are impossible to take off unless you have a winston bodyguard that can put a bubble shield and zap tracer when she gets close JUST to keep her away. 2 players to repel one. It's insane
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>>148110841
Dude just point and click lmao, how hard can it be????
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>>148110894
Sometimes my aim just slides up, and I don't even touch it, being AFK. No mousepad, too. I'm pretty sure I could use an actual mlg mouse.
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>>148110403
Never played that game, but Sonic Racing also has some JSR beats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87MSQ-hapWg
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>>148110810
>nerf mcree into the almost uselessness
>suddenly everything is cancer
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>>148110810

Only shit that pisses me off is that you can't oneshot her as Mcree

>btw Pudge and Hanzo can 1 shot without 0 (zero) skill and that's fine and balanced
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>>148110935
Zenyatta will never truly be buffed and will always be useless because tracer exists. Unless they entirely redesign the character, he will not have a place in the game.
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>>148110857
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>>148110841
>point
>target is now gone
>try to reposition the mouse
>fly right past it
>manage to line it just right
>die because I was being shot at all this time and now I'm dead

I am the worst McCree that has ever existed
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>>148110978
Land a headshot, there's your oneshot

>buhh but I want her to have 75hp
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>>148110981
>>148110935
>mfw Zenyatta is ominic
>ominics are literal outsider robot race in lore
>no one wants to play him or with him in the team

F R I D G E B R I L L I A N C E
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reminder tracer spam was a strat even when mccree was powerful
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>>148110981
it hurts how right you are. Zeny can be dispatched in one second by tracer and she can easily get away since it doesn't take time at all
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>>148110978
It'd be nice if Mei were a little better balanced so she was picked more often. Hitting an icicle headshot and dinking a Tracer at full health is so fucking satisfying.
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>>148110810
>>148110935
>>148110978
lmao git gud shitters

the postergirl won't get nerfed
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>>148111034
>headshot Tracer
>she isn't dead
Can't see my oneshot from here boss
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>>148110841
>trackball
>Widowmaker
shit's impossible man
I just try to get behind people or where they don't expect.
Most payload maps this is impossible though
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>>148111034

>140 hp
>1 shot

t. armless player support main

Inb4

>but muh flashbang

Not giving an extra (you) over this shitty bait, just telling in advance.
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>>148110691
What? Both.
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>(Genji): I need healing!
>(Hanzo): I need healing!
>(Junkrat): I need healing!

>pick Soldier 76
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>>148111031
Well a large part of that is just that McCree is shit and you should stop playing him.

Also, learn to lead. 90% of players are completely predictable in how they're gonna move. Especially hoppers, hoppers are basically free headshots because it's easier to predict where they'll land.
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>>148110978
You can flash bang and headshot her for an easy 150 to zero health.

Problem is, a good tracer is not gonna be easy to flashbang and if she's moving a lot, that momentum is gonna make it hard to aim in that short amount of time you have to line up to her head.

Before you could just fan the hammer because of the damage but now you gotta both land the flashbang AND catch her on a good position to get the quick headshot.

Now because of the mcree nerf tracer is even more powerful while roadhog is a complete beast.
And genji/pharah going up as well.


It's fucking stupid to completely remove the tank buster ability of a character.
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>Star has seen Sombra and is planning on making her one of his mains

she's going to be ridiculous isnt she
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>>148110976

It's funny how much bullshit McCree kept in check simply by being able to kill it all.
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>>148111165
the reason blizzard let him see her is because he's a hype machine

there's an equal chance she will be shit and he will just throw out buzzwords to make her seem impressive
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>>148111165
who, who and

>mains

Kill yourself three times.
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>>148111131
I like to hang out with junkrats as 76. They make it easy to pick off someone who's just had 60% of their health knocked off by a single grenade then I just do a couple of bursts and they're dead.
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>>148111191
>three turretmen in enemy team
color me surprised
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There is LITERALLY nothing gamebreaking about Tracer. Fight me nerds.
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>>148111234
no you're right, the thing that's gamebreaking is that she has no counter because they raped mcree with the nerf stick
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because fuck the turret cunts? looks about right
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>>148111201
he offhandedly mentioned it in a stream, he didnt even say her name
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>>148111280
literally every offense hero counters tracer
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>>148111234
If you're so good at dodging, then you won't mind if she only has 1 health, right?

I mean, they can't kill you if they're dead and/or they can't hit you, right? Just dodge all of the bullets.
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>>148110520
>>148110536
>>148110584
>>148110747
LOL look at all these retards trying to enjoy a game and ending all worked up for nothing.
good job you got cucked by blizzard yet once more
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>>148111280
flashbang headshot punch
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>>148111217
>he has no idea who Sombra is

why are you even here
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>>148111234
The only thing game breaking about a LOT of shit in this game is that we don't have enough characters to punish certain things.

Which is why the mcree overnerf completely fucked this game balance by removing his tank busting ability.

By being able to punish most shit he kept other shit in check, he needed a nerf but he got so fucked he completely lost that and now you got tons of cancer running around and the only one able to punish it is reaper.
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>>148111308
>I'm shit at landing shots, blizzard pls nerf her to 1 hp so maybe I can kill her if I get really lucky
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>>148111328
i dont even like this trash game you stupid redditor

>>148111358
to make asshurt waifufags like yourself angry
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>>148111185
Jesse McCree was the hero we needed, not the one we deserved.
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>>148111367
Roadhog punishes a lot of shit too.
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>>148111384
Why are you even in this thread then?
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>>148111381
It was a joke. Still, she does make it hard for lower-skill players to deal with, and contrary to what some people might have you believe, ALL of the skill levels matter when considering balance decisions.
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>>148111328
> He thinks /owg/ actually plays the game
New meta is talking about the game you stupid normie fuck
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>>148111332
>flashbanging the most elusive character in the game and then line up a headshot praying he didn't ended up in other place
>with an ability that has extremely short range
>and after this having enough time or being so fucking close you can melee

are you serious anon
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>>148111151
I think they should make the damage of FTH deal diminishing damage.

Like, make it deal 70 on the first shot then drop off 10 dmg for each subsequent shot. It'd deal exactly the same damage as its current state but make it more reliable for killing low-health characters before they can hit le ebin shift button and escape.
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>>148111456
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>>148111426
But roadhog is part of that cancer anon
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>>148111151
Mcree getting nerfed was entirely justified. There was absolutely no reason for him to be infinitely better than reaper in every way.
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>>148111426

Which is extremely ironic.
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I play Tracer on Defence
I play Torb on Attack

It feels so backwards yet it works
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Mei is a fucking whore who needs to choke on a bag of cocks size of Reinhardts suit
yes I like playing heroes that have high mobility
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>>148107663
SOURCE PLEASE
>>
Alright faggots I have the best strat for actually having fun on this game, If you faggots don't try it you are cucking yourselves out of the only fun that is within reach on this game here it is
>join game
>pick mei
>wall team inside spawn
>wait for someone to complain and get mad about it
>"leblizzcocksucker999:wow report mei trolling."
>target locked
>proceed to troll the whole game with mei but only focusing on ruining that one player's experience
>they will tell you to fuck off and tell everyone in game to report you
>just say something like "wow im sorry for failing a wall didn't mean to ruin it for you pal :("
>watch them exlode in anger
>if you get lucky they will rage over mic
>if you get ultra lucky it will be a 12 year old raging over mic
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>no hero limits
just fuck this meta up
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>>148111501
For example: If you flashbang a tracer as it is now, you have to hit her with three shots from FTH to finish her. With diminishing damage you'd only have to hit with two.
25+70+60=155, more than enough to deal with Tracer. One more hit, +50, and you've killed any 200 HP character. This solves the issue of McCree not being able to kill his intended targets reliably while keeping him from being a tankbuster which was never his intended role.
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>>148111639
>toxic

go back to reddìt
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>>148111642
You are the ultimate cancer

I bet you play Toblerone on KOTH don't you you fucking faggot
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>>148111648
Mei is a shitter check, like Bastion.
She also doesn't have a high enough skill ceiling to be competitive in higher level play, unlike Bastion
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>>148111642
Hello there

I play torb exclusively on attack, maybe one game on defence as a joke
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>>148111280
>>148111308
>>148111367
Roadhog, Winston, Mei, Junkrat, Torb, McCree, and Symmetra. Git gud fgts.
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so what was the complaining about quick plays balanced teams?
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>>148111631
No one said it wasn't justified.

Completely removing the ability to damage tanks and damage tons of other shit and overall make him almost zenyatta tier was not justified.

They literally removed a core thing in his design and effectively shut down the list of things that can deal with tanks to one, reaper.
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>tfw shit aim so always lose 1v1
>miss so opponents never get caught by surprise
>forced to play supports and junkrat

It hurts

I just want to be good with soldier outside his ult, tracer, and McCrre
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>>148111698
>Dota 2 can manage to make 90%+ of its hero pool viable in competitive with over 100 of them
>Overwatch can't even manage half its roster to be viable with only 21 heroes
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Am I just retarded or does Pharahs knockback grenade not work on a deployed bastion? I know it used to back when he still had a shield.
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Why are people so mean, /owg/? ;_;

We still won, I don't know what he was being so mean for.
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>playing comp match
>ilios
>whatever
>go zarya
>do sorta well
>end up running backwards into the well on the well map because im retarded
>respawn
>all of a sudden start getting a steady 10 fps, dropped from about 60 fps
>this continues for the whole game
>leave and rejoin
>restart game
>doesnt work
>some guy on the enemy team told me to go windowed and then fullscreen again but that didnt work either
>currently scanning and repairing game files
Bravo, Blizzard. I feel especially bad because it was essentially a 5v6 and I was the team letdown
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>Finally get a legendary after a dry spell
>it's for a character you hate playing or are shit at
Whats her name /owg/?
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>>148111920
>>148111648
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>>148111815
Dota has meta heroes that make up the overwhelming majority of picks. Icefrog can keep those heroes somewhat balanced because out of all of them only ~10% are worth picking if you wanted to be competitive.
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>>148111920
Goth zarya
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>>148110801
>>148110786
>>148110719
>>148110872
Composer here, I have absolutely no clue how you would do both. My mind will get completely consumed with one or the other, and half my job is listening to several things at once. You're either not truly hearing the music, or not true experiencing the game.
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>>148111873
>people blame hero they don't like even though they can't see anyone else's stats but their own

Just ignore them anon, they're grasping at straws because they can't come to grips with the fact that they could be shit.

If you play Sym past the first points on defense or on offense at all you should kill yourself.
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>>148111873
>sudden death
>teammate goes symettra on attack on Hollywood to get a teleporter behind the small door
>everyone but 1 guy on our team doesn't care
>the 1 guy who does care goes on autistic rampage and also picks symmetra because "don't fucking pick sym, she is shit" "lel she is op right guise? aren't you glad i picked her too?"
>we win
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>>148111873
Because they want to blame anyone but themselves.
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Meta report:
>Tanks are running out of control with Reaper being the only good non-tank anti-tank counter.
>OT and KotH. They are busted and Tracer is here to prove it.
>Best anti-Pharah is another Pharah, because then you force them to get a S:76 to support their own Pharah, which means they can't pick a Reaper to stop your tanks.
>Mercy for the first female POTUS.
>Mei, Bastion, Hanzo and Torb (that's 4/6 of the defense roster!) are red-headed stepchildren that evil stepmom Kaplan won't acknowledge exists in the game. Once Sombra is added, we can expect Widowmaker to join them. Junkrat reportedly pleased about his status as the only MLG hero with a defense classification.
>The answer to most of these problems are Winston. The more Winston the better. In fact, the threat of Winston is what is currently shaping the meta. Was Winston a secret lunar nuclear project?
>Outplay your opponents by pressing Q as Reaper or Pharah today! Feel the skill!
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>>148111920
I got gearbot bastion or whatever the rusted copper (blue and grey) one is

I actually love the look of that skin so it made me start playing bastion more and I've started getting a bit better with him, and turns out he's pretty fun actually

/blog
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>>148111765
>hog
>countering tracer
>literally the hardest target to consistently land hooks on
>meanwhile tracer will always murder you if you miss
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>>148111709
>>148111501
Anyway let me hear some hot-n-spicy opinions on this.
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>>148111987
Tell me the guy who picked her second died while the first one lived to the end
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>>148111920
I can't relate to this because I don't have autism so I don't care about "skins".
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>>148112071
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>>148112062
Actually yes, I only saw the first one running around during the slowdown after you win
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>>148112071
*tips*
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>>148111970
Ok, thanks, anon.

It was on KoTH.
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>>148111765
>mei
What the fuck are you gonna do with mei
expect her to just sit on her ass waiting for you to freeze her?
to walk into your icicles with her insane mobility?
>symmetra

what?
She can go in, clear a room and go back and symmetra will never be able to catch her

>roadhog
Tracer actually counters roadhog, her mobility makes landing hooks a pain and she can dish out insane amounts of damage and can treat him like a free ult charger.

>junkrat
your chance to actually kill her is that she's either stupid and doesn't sees your traps or that you're just spamming random shit and you manage to get lucky and hit her with one

>mcree
Again, a decent counter but you need to line up a headshot AND land the flashbang, which is not easy against a tracer
This is one of the good enough counters
>torb
Somewhat alright maybe, tracer can just blink in and bomb any nest he has or maybe torb himself, and she can also run down the turrets and blink out of their sight easily
And if she catches torb there's a high chance he's dead

>winston
If the winston tries to engage you run away
or blink
or recall
and you waste winston time trying to go for a tracer thats killing people in between
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How 2 git annoying as Tracer?
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>>148112053
I like it, the solution is either make Fan The Hammer kill her faster or make Flashbang stun her longer, and while I'd suggest the latter, your suggestion seems sensible.
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>>148112165
Same as Lucio

Exist
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>>148112143
>picking Sym on KOTH
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>>148112071
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>>148111961

Music is just for down times like prep, queue, potg, cards and respawn. You don't truly hear while playing but it doesn't get in the way either.
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>>148112040
Even if that was true there are six other heroes that have a good game against Tracer. Roadhog will kill Tracer at short range with a primary shot. Actually just one shot. That's where she deals most of her damage. Tracer can annoy Roadhog but Tracer can't manfight him. Git gud scrub.
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>>148111631
>There was absolutely no reason for him to be infinitely better than reaper in every way.
McCree knows tricks Reaper doesn't. Simple as that.
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>>148104762
>used to win games all day long as bastion and torb on offence

>comp comes out
>no one lets me do it
>finally do it out of spit
>win game
>realized people are fucking stupid
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>>148112231
>not getting that teleporter up
>behind enemy lines
loser
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>>148112258
You don't have to be that close to murder people as Tracer.

You can definitely stay outside of roadhogs kill range, if not just avoid everything he throws at you.
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>>148111771
Bastion can deal with tanks. He's even been used in pro matches to do so.

Zenyatta can also deal with tanks but alas he is just not very good

Tracer can also kill any of the tanks and can melt basically anything with headshots due to her retarded DPS
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>>148112231
>>148111970
>>148112231
>not playing symettra on koth for an infinite barrage of players coming into the point
>and the sustain from shields
>and the turrets on the point or flank spots

>not playing symettra on attack for constant stream if people pushing and the denial of flankers
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>>148102610

>How do we make Torb/Bast relevant on payload offense

You don't, some heros just work better in better situations.
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>>148112321
yes you have to be close you fucking retard

have you ever played tracer before ?

she only does good dmg at close range

>everything is op until I have to play it
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>>148111729
Depends on the map and team comp really, its a 50/50
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>>148112187
Flashbang definitely needs to be more punishing. The range is short enough that if you get hit by it you deserve what you get. Right now it's pretty well counter by spamming spacebar because it doesn't do shit about momentum. By the time you hit the ground the stun is already done and McCree goes back to desperately left clicking wishing he picked S76 instead.

If zen wasn't made of glass he could be an ok counter with discord. Or give discord an added gradual slow that ramps up over time like meis frost beam does.
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>>148112258
>stay just far enough to be out of shotgun range
>stay just close enough to be out of flak range
>dodge hooks because you're a tiny fast target
>shred
>if he heals, use that time to get free headshots
>win

you have never played against a good tracer if you actually believe this
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>>148112258
>>148111765
Stop, you clearly have no idea how to play this game.

Or more importantly, post rank to confirm this.

Maybe if you stopped watching these manchild tumblr cartoons you'd be able to be decent at the game.
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>>148105143
macree has a skin from lupin the third
rienheart has a soul calaber skin
bastion has a castle in the sky skin
soldier 76 has a team American skin
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>considering getting good at widow
>plan of attack would be to get into a quickplay game and mute everyone on both teams before locking widow
>never change no matter the map and team composition
Is this a good idea y/n
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>>148112097
>>148112117
>>148112240
>not caring about what coat of paint your virtual character is wearing is autism
Think you got that backwards autismo.
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>>148112314
>>148112336
>people do this unironically

I need to remember that retards will always exist on this game.

They think Sym and Torb on attack work.

They think Torb is a good hero at all.

they think Bastion behind a Rein shield is uncounterable.

It's just your teams that are bad when you lose right?

>B-BUT I WON IN QUICKPLAY AND MY LEVEL 40 COMPETITIVE!
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>>148112336
>sustain from shields
Yeah that 25 hp is huge.

They should at least make it a passive thing instead of having to reapply every time someone dies. Past midgame youre lucky if half your team has one of those shields at any given time
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>>148112434
>I can't aim properly
>I have serious trouble dealing 150 damage
>Stop, you clearly have no idea how to play this game.
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>>148112480
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>>148112469
sure
its quickplay no one gives a shit anymore
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>>148112469

It's QP, no one cares. Knock yourself out.
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CUTE
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WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO AS LUCIO OR MERCY WHEN I'M CONSTANTLY BEING PICKED OFF BY GENJI/TRACER/PHARAH BEHIND US

I SAY IN CHAT EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS

"[HERO] BEHIND US"

NOBODY GIVES A SHIT

AND THEY SPAM "I NEED HEALING" WHEN I'MN FUCKING DEAD BECAUSE I KEEP DYING TO THEIR FLANKER
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>>148105143
>>148112441
WHEN THE FUCK IS MY E.VA WITH SKINS FOR EVERY PILOT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>literally at 30 hp
>enemy team is pushing in
>here have a damage boost
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Tracer cancer has killed my enjoyment of this game even more than Mcree cancer did. Every game there's 2 of them on the enemy team. Every fucking game. Never thought I'd say it, but I miss Mcree keeping her in check. I mean, he was cancer as fuck too with his 500 damage instant burst, but at least your team could kill him after. Decent Tracers are practically unkillable.


Now I'm stuck in the catch 22 of not wanting to play until her inevitable nerfs tomorrow, but not wanting to play after the nerfs because new sniper cancer is going to reign supreme. Cause either the new hero's OP or she's shit, but will still be on my team instead of a mercy/lucio regardless.
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>>148112518
>>148112520
>no one cares
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZqeiF0-RVw

Read the comments. Or not, they are youtube comments I guess
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>>148112480
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>>148112563
>tomorrow
source? Is there patch notes yet?
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>finally get a waifu
>she's a slut
Goddamn it.
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>going through symmetra's teleporter automatically gives you her +25 shield
would this make her more viable?
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>>148112541
her pink color is already a refrence to a evangelion character
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Did they tweak ranking in latest patch or something? I used to lose a whole rank for losing a game in competitive with solo teams, now I lose 1/3 or 1/2 while wins gain me almost a whole rank.
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>>148112503
>they think Bastion behind a Rein shield is uncounterable.
I would never say that, but it's definitely not fun. Sort of like Mei players just spamming wall after wall.
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>>148112513
Good meme arrows buddy


You keep being told that tracer feeds off roadhog and her mobility makes her a nightmare for him, any good tracer would be a pain.


Post
Your
Rank
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>>148112503
>he thinks people always explore every route in each game
retard detected
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>>148112563
>inevitable nerfs

the postergirl ain't getting nerfed shitter
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>>148112528
could be better
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>>148112258
Tumblr shit kys
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>mfw it's always Hanzo and Torbjörn players that keep shooting after I use deflect
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>>148112649
post yours first

but don't bother I know it's sub 45
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>>148112537
Step 1: Quit gettin' mad at video games.
Done that? Deep breath, now. Make sure you are perfectly calm before you read the next section.

Actually calm the fuck down. You're not calm yet, you lying sack of shit. Alright. Good. ready?

git gud or play somebody else. That's really it. When confronted with adversity the best solution is to either avoid it or just rise above the problem.
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>>148112609

No. It's not official yet, but everything seems to point to it.

>Teaser for new hero on twitter acc
>Everytime they've done a similar teaser, they release the hero either 6 days or 7 days later
>Leak on leddit's wow forum says there is a content patch coming the 12th
>Now Bnet client says that they are going down for maintenance for 2 hours tomorrow


>>148112663

She's getting nerfed. The fact you think she isn't broken as fuck tells me you're either a sub-60 shitter or someone riding the cancer-train up and doesn't want his free ride shit on. Either way, don't be deluded. After that embarrassing 4 Tracer shitshow at the recent tourney, they aren't going to let that shit fly for another patch cycle.
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>>148109629
I got cancer
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>>148112745
> play somebody else

way to show you have no idea how this game works when your a healer
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>>148112618
>reference to the single worst character

Gross


And white rabbit is actually her eva reference, check the icons, and either way considering how many people are asking for it, they probably will go full eva on at least one skin.
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>>148109629
I already know they're going to make dva an even better ot extender than she already is
it's going to be fucking awful
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>>148112392
Well, hopefully not EXACTLY like Mei, because having long-distance aim displacement on demand would infuriate everyone. I believe you mean just a movement speed reduction?
>>
>tfw Lucio gold elims
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>>148112537
take out your gun [as mercy] and hide behind your teammates

once the healing stops people pay attention, plus you can do decent damage
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>>148112537
Playing healer solo queue is never a good idea. And if your friends aren't keeping you alive, get new friends. In short, don't play support solo but make sure to defend the guy who does.
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>>148112537
That's the main reason i don't play mercy. Lucio is my go to guy for support. I don't rely on my team at all, he has enough survivability to evade enemies long enough til you or someone else kills them. I don't go out of my way to heal anyone that isn't supporting me or the objective. Eventually the asshats that go off to do their own shit get tired of dying and group up or leave the game.
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I'm rank 68 and just got matched with a 5 stack of low 50s. They tell me in broken malaysian/singaporean english that they'll collectively report me if I play widow on attack on hollywood, because "widow cannot attack la". No one wants to play the fucking tank so I end up doing it. End up getting fucking crushed by a rein/bastion/torb, never even set one foot on the 1st point. I check the scoreboard and I have 2 mccrees and 2 genjis.

Thanks Jeff, I want to fucking die now.
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>your team is fucking around in QP and has 3 hanzos and a gengi
>enemy team is running meta comps and tryharding
>nobody ever gets 15 feet past the spawn door
>ask people to not be retarded for a couple minutes
>IT'S JUST QP :))))))))))))))))))
Why is this acceptable? You can't even say you're practicing when everyone is just getting instantly getting mowed down for 5 minutes straight. And I'm fine with running stupid shit like 6 of the same character just for laughs, this shit is in a different ballpark.
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>>148112819
also people saying blizzard not doing references to outside ips are unfamiliar with blizzard games
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>>148111803
Are you on console?
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>>148112819
>white rabbi
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>>148109629
>HP restoration and Damage increase will decay over time after extended use on the same target
oph boy, it's this retard again
kill yourself

>Hook will now stun Roadhog the same amount of time that the hooked foe is stunned.
LEL
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>Subjected to a 4 tracer, 1 reaper 1 lucio comp and they all knew what they were doing

Holy fucking shit, remove Tracer from the fucking game. Three Winstons trying to stick together couldn't do a single thing against 4 fucking flighty cunts running circles around us and dealing altogether too much damage with their fucking guns, not to mention reaper would pop in every now and again to save any Tracer that was out of blinks and recalls
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>>148112769

The best part is that it's OT that needs to be fixed, Tracer needs a minor slap on her wrist (no charges at respawn to stop her from joining the fight so fucking fast) and a buff to McCree so there's a dps alternative as her counter.

Instead they are going to do it Blizz style and probably make her unplayable. Because fuck insight and temperance.
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>>148112769
i'm 64 and I don't have problem dealing tracers

>4 Tracer shitshow
herostacking is totally different subject
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>>148112541
>no flatchested dva skin to loook like shinji
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>been playing support/tanks since I first started
>been hankering for a change
>picking Reaper more often
>discovering how Hanzo is the fucking nightmare of my dreams with his wallhacks and one-shotting SIMPLE GEOMETRY arrows

I didn't think I'd get mad about videogames until now
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>>148112856
>getting bullied into changing your hero
white people lol
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>>148112883
>not saying what you yourself played
Yeah you're the Hanzo that keeps asking for double supports
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>>148112809
I almost exclusively play Mercy and Lucio, and played Medic for years before OW.

If your team isn't willing to put in some minor effort to keeping you alive, clearly they do not consider your contributions to the extension of their life of importance.

If they don't consider it important, you're not having fun doing it, and people are pushing your shit in, then you fucking switch and let it be somebody else's problem while you fuck shit up doing something else.

Alternatively, you git fucking gud and learn how to avoid and escape bad situations. No, you can't squirm your way out of everything, but you can certainly keep your ass alive to be the Local Man Contests Point guy.
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>>148112856
South east asia servers are fucking cancer. Play elsewhere if you can afford the ping
>>
tracer is imbalanced and you fucks know it
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>>148112856
>widow cannot attack la
ayy lmao
>>
>Picking +3 soldiers in comp games


Uhhh, when will this meme end?
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>>148112993
>Lucio
>Needing support
Nah
>>
If I'm playing Zarya and am out of teammates when I ult, should I spam m1 or m2?
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>>148112960

Why are you trying to counter Tracer with Winston though? She can just backpedal and shoot him in his head.
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>>148112820
I really hope so anon
Then I'd be able to hit fucking 60 winrate
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>>148112829
Yup, exactly. Just a somewhat minor slow that ramps up to a cap as long as the orb is on you. Maybe enough to slow tracer down to slightly below main cast speed. That would go a long way to making zen not so shit if you also added another 25-50 hp to him. He'd be a good zoning character between the slow and his fuckhuge damage orbs now being easier to land. His right click also might be worth something after that too since you'd have a snowballs chance in hell of landing them.
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>symmetra is the most fun support
>never get to play her because usually nobody else goes healer when you lock her in
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>>148112965

I'm 64 as well and literally just had a double tracer cancer game before coming here. I guess you haven't run into it yet, but there's quite a few people up here that play Tracer at such a cancer level. And they queue with each other very often and just shit on teams.

>>148112963

Not talking about OT and if I were, D.Va is worse for it if they are organized.
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>>148113062
Because it was KOTH so we figured they'd at least need to stay inside the point, which they did, not that it mattered
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>>148113016
Low rank shitters don't know it
Tracer mains don't want to admit it
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Which hero is worth training up with?

Tracer
Reaper
Bastion
Torbjorn
Winston
Reinhardt
D.va
Symmetra

These are the heroes I really like and I want to get really good at one
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>finally back up to 50
>the losses are coming any time now
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>>148113116
>Tracer
>Reaper
>Reinhardt
These
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>>148113079
I just wait until someone else locks in a support then I lock Symmetra
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>>148113116
Tracer has a high skill cap and pretty useful.

Reaper has a pretty low skill cap and also pretty useful.

D.Va is shit, in my opinion at least. Never seen any D.Va do shit that matters.

Symmetra is fucking ridiculous if you're good.
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>>148113116
a good bastion is scary if he has a rein and moves a lot
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>>148113054
Don't ult without teammates unless it's to stop a push.
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>>148112984
I'm usually either a healslut or tank of some sort because those are the roles nobody else ever wants to play. If I'm lucky enough to not have to babysit the team for a game I'll go reaper or junkrat.
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>>148113116
Tracer is getting nerfed soon, so don't.
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>all these 76 fags mas as fuck because tracer keeps pushing their shit in
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Currently rank 52'ish right now. Solo queue.

Basically every game devolves to cheese spam. KoTH? 4-5 tracers and Lucio for the other roles. Sometimes some winstons.

Capture Maps? 2DVa 2 Winston lucio mercy for both offense and defense.

Only Payload maps are somehwat playable, and even them itd literally roadhog zarya pharah lucio reaper soldier every game.

Does it get better at all at higher tiers? Or is "diversity" already dead in this game due to the shit balance?
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>>148113181
>Symmetra is fucking ridiculous if you're good.

Yeah, I fell for this meme once and picked her

it did NOT go well
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>>148113116
Tracer is the most ovepowered character in the game currently.
Reaper is top tier.
Bastion is very niche, only shines on a select few stages of a select few maps.
Torbjorn is solid on defense.
Winston is top tier, especially in King of the Hill.
Reinhardt is top tier, especially on Payload maps.
D.Va is garbage do not play her.
Symmetra is also niche, typically only useful at defending the very first point of the map.

Basically they're all worth it except for D.Va. Leave Bastion for last because you really need to play him a lot to figure out where he has any use.
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>>148112897
They already referenced eva on another game

A really boring shitty one so hopefully it's not just wasted there
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Why is Symmetra a support and Thorbjorn a defense character?

>Symmetra shields for 25 non spammable
>Toblerone armors for 75 and averages as 150 ehp almost spammable after first fight
>Symmetra turrets are a joke
>Toblerone turret can be nasty
>TP only viable in a couple defense maps and still easy to destroy
>Toblerone Q is literally insane and so is it's uptime
>Symmetra attacks are non effective against decent players, either too risky low range or easy to dodge alt fire
>Toblerone actually has nice main and alt fire
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>>148113116
Tracer if you want to be a cancerous fuck
Reaper if you want to practice being the only non-tank tankbuster who has a decent self heal mechanic
Reinhardt is extremely valuable and a skilled Reinhardt is a godsend.
Torbjorn's gun is sleeper OP and his 75 armor after running over two dead bodies is the most ridiculous shit.
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>HEHEHE SHE'S BALANCED CUZ HER SKILL FLOOR IS HIGH

worst fucking game design meme ever

"hard to play" should not be a factor when balancing a character
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>>148113074

Having an a slow and a 50% damage increase from all sources would be overtuned as fuck. +50% from all sources is already overtuned as fuck (compare it to Mercy's damage amp. Mercy can't shoot herself while doing this mind you).

The problem with discord orb is that it can't get through barriers. This means you get completely cuck'd off your flanker support as Zen.

Zen himself is just a little little change from "worthless" to "extremely overpowered", because the damage he literally shits out is real.

I'd personally let discord orbs go through barriers and increase the heal rate to 40/second. This way Zen has powerful as fuck support, but he can be kept in check by actively targeting him first.
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>>148113201
Like you said, if my team is dead and it's overtime I gotta pop it.

Question still remains though. Which firing mode?
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>>148113314
>>
>Dominate a chokepoint as Rein
>Keep them pushed back with shield and then swings to distract them (no scrubs will run into reins swings) while mercy heals me.
>They can't even get through
>Get no medals because it's not the objective area
>Get only 1/3rd of a level

Thanks Blizz, why bother playing tank or support?
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>>148113116
tracer if you want to be an annoying shit that the entire enemy team has an aneurysm over

reaper if you want to shred people and get sick potgs

rein if you want to be a bro and then be utterly frustrated when your team never utilizes your barrier properly

winston so you can buttfuck annoying widows and the occassional medicore gengi and tracer
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>>148113314
>you should not be rewarded for being gud


????????


let's all flip a coin to see whos best
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>>148113293
>Tracer is the most ovepowered character in the game currently
This just might be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
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official 1.0.6 patch notes:

mercy
>can revive 3 people max
>ult charge on healing beam slightly reduced
>ult charge on damage beam increased
>healing beam starts off at 60 hps but drops after a second to 50 hps

lucio
>self heal reduced
>amp now goes through walls

tracer
>hitbox increased
>blink cooldown increased to 4 seconds

reaper
>magazine size decreased to 6, reload time is slightly faster
>death blossom can no longer shoot upwards

zarya
>graviton surge lasts a second less
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>>148112883
>Why is this acceptable?

It's just quickplay.

Go play comp if you want to play seriously.
>>
Doesn't matter shitters

Even if she gets nerfed I will keep continue to shit on bads

Nerfs don't cure badness
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>>148113293
>Torbjorn is solid on defense.
he can be solid on offense but he takes a lot more skill and effort
>Bastion is very niche, only shines on a select few stages of a select few maps.

with skill he can be more usefull than 76 with a similar play style
powerful main weapon self heal and turret mode can be used while falling adding a lot of uses
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>>148113346
Dotard invoker autist here

Invoker has been a huge problem since he got introduced to dota 2 for like
80% of patches
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>>148113391
No.
>amp now goes through walls
no
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You would think that Genji would counter Tracer fairly well, considering she empties her entire magazine in an instant and he could just reflect the entire thing back at her before she could blink again.
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>>148113190
>Reinhardt/Bastion/Mercy on cart

>the thing rides right past two checkpoints nonstop like a goddamn fair ride with the entire team not once being able to put a dent on it until I go D.Va and suicide-charge myself into it over and over again to displace them

Certainly there must be a better solution than this, right? Is the answer to really go Symmetra and spam M2 in their direction?

I know I'm a bad player, but this has me puzzled.
Unless the most practical answer is a Bastion and TWO Reinhardts
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>>148113391
forgot the most important change of all

general
>hero stacking reduced to 2-1-1-1-1
>sudden death reverted to the old round of koth
>overtime no longer refreshes but halts when players are near the objective

>>148113454
shut up this is literally what's going to happen my dad is ghostcrawler
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>get 2 healslut mains on the same team
>neither of them know how to do anything other than heal

daily reminder that healsluts are only good for getting carried
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oh boy here I go backfilling into a lost game with no supports again
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>>148113430
>with skill he can be more usefull than 76 with a similar play style
Yeah no dude, just no.
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>>148113336
Unless its one person just spam bombs.
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>>148113456
Yeah good luck aiming back at a blinking tracer while the rest of her team are whipping your ass.
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>>148113491
tracer, RMB, RMB, RMB, Q
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>>148113391
>mercy can revive 3 people max
>source: my ass
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>>148113521

>get into game
>YOU LOST

I got put into you lost games where i did not even have time to pick a hero. Just instant loss.
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>>148113491
tracer bomb
junkrat in general
d.va
reinhardt can flare their asses through shield
so can symettra
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>>148113505
AND MAKE IT SO THE FUCKING KOTH CAPTURE STOPS COUNTING UP IF IT'S BEING CONTESTED
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>>148113538
If tracer is with her team at all times she's doing it wrong
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>Watch Mercy run off solo
>Bitches no one is covering them
I swear to god, I usually play support but I hate other players who do generally.
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>>148110290
All lives matter
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>>148113276
keep in mind that in tf2 the meta eventually converged to exactly one comp that everyone settled on for many years
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>>148113491
>>148113574
oh and hanzo ult
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>>148113590
>stack 2-3 meis/tracers
>game never ends
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>>148113573
Don't forget, if you say anything about it people act like you'd been there the whole game even though they know very well you haven't, and start spamming "salt"
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>>148113447

>Give one of the most versatile casters and semi-carries in the game massive regen during laning stage
>Gee why is this guy constantly good?

The problem with invoker is really that he plays according to different rules than everyone else in the game.
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>>148110290
might as well play symettera to support isis
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>>148113638
tf2 didn't had balance patches every couple weeks/months and new heroes being added
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>Mercy ult charges much faster
>Can only rez single targets at close target range.

Would this be good? Would fix the having to kill a team twice or thrice per fight problem and would make the mercy have to actually get into a risky position to rez someone instead.
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>>148113276
I went from 52 through 58 and I've seen all kind of different shit. Mostly were copypasted canon stuff like 2 winstons, sym+healer support and safebet damage. Many games had retarded shit as well.
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>>148113727
No it wouldn't stop posting your terrible ideas

all she needs is a 0,5 casting animation like lucio ult
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>>148113727
nah and it being close range would make her useless
everyone would just run double lucio all the time
you can't really nerf her considerably without either giving her something big in return or nerfing lucio
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>>148113391
>death blossom can no longer shoot upwards
I actually feel like a reduction of its vertical distance is sensible, I don't know how the hell it works at the moment but it definitely goes too far up.
I was killed while on top of the building next to Point A in Temple of Anubis by a Reaper that was ulting at the bottom. It should be a reasonably flat disc instead, although not one that Genji can just double jump over and escape from
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>>148113705
Well that's not the point the point is that every time a game dev tries to do this
>extremely high skill cap extremely high reward
meme they end up with a broken mess in their hands

It even happened on league almost quarantine zone with Zed.
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>>148113719
that can shake things up, but the fact is that eventually people will figure out what is best and then you'll be considered a troll if you don't conform to the meta
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>>148113391
officially neck yourself
>>
This Dad meme isn't FUNNY.
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>>148113535
just cause you cant do it doesn't mean its impossible

i bet you just go in to turret mode and wonder why you die to tracer\junkrat\phara like a dumbass
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>>148113818
There won't be a stable meta, it can't be done if they're adding a hero per month and changing balance from time to time.

Every new addition will inevitably change the way the game works, and that's without mentioning new maps.

The only reason that happened in tf2 is because it took valve YEARS to either change soldier or demo or a specialized weapon that was basically needed for something.
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New thread guys

>>148113971
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>>148113834
they're all completely sensible changes though
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>>148111107
>Implying Thrall, the Metzen self insert, never got nerfed
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>>148113705

And yet, he is only great tier. Not broken as fuck tier.

What makes him broken is the versatility. And the massive regen means shit with his shitty as fuck attack damage early on.
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>>148113818
that's the problem i the meta is set by people who didn't fallow it
only be experimenting outside the meta is how the meta is changed and new strategies figured out

so you can fallow the meta or you can set it
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>>148113637
But that's racist.
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>>148113314
>being good shouldn't be rewarded but punished instead
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PURE
U
R
E
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>>148109629
>Hook will now stun Roadhog the same amount of time that the hooked foe is stunned.

Good b8. You nearly got me.
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>>148113314
>hard to play characters should also be shit

that's how we end up with abominations like Hanzo
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>>148114045
right but setting the meta requires actually being good, and probably also being surrounded by teammates who are good and who you communicate with through multiple games

so meta is set by the pros

>>148114530
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>>148114640
>hard to play characters
>hanzo
>>
Is there a list somewhere that shows the highest levels in the game? I saw a 431 today and 437 yesterday. Is anyone over 500 yet?
>>
>>148109629
>>Tracer
>Now has Zenyatta's old HP value.
>>Zenyatta
>Now has Tracer's old HP value.

nigga what ?
>>
>>148113314
How hard a character is to play should definitely be a factor, but that's not quite the problem. The problem is actually in how the effort and ability of the player translates into the returns that the character gives, THIS being an area where Tracer seems miscalibrated. Not quite Fan the Hammer levels of broken, but close. Tracer is just a tad TOO deadly for her mobility.
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>>148113391
No these are the real official 1.0.6 patch notes, you can trust me - my uncle works at Blizzard

Mercy
>range on ult increased
>health increased to 300
>pistol rate of fire increased

Lucio
>self heal increased by 5%
>overall character speed increased by 5%
>skin color is lightened

Tracer
>hitbox reduced
>ult range increased

Reaper
>wraith and teleport cooldown decreased
>magazine size increased to 12

Roadhog
>hook range increased

Zarya
>barriers last 5 seconds longer
>ult range increased

Pharah
>increased damage by 10%
>concussive blast radius increased to 15 meters

Genji
>can no longer run up walls
>voice actor and ethnicity changed to saudi arabian to better suit his legendary skin

Reinhardt
>fire strike cooldown decreased by 2 seconds
>earth shatter is now a ground pound that stuns everyone within the vicinity
>charge can be used to fly upward

Symmetra
>turret damage increased by 20%
>photon shields now restore health
>teleporter usage increased to 8
>photon projector range increased to 10 meters

Winston
>jump pack cooldown decreased by 1 second
>barrier projector shields up to 1000 damage
>tesla cannon range increased to 10 meters

Mcree
>combat roll cooldown decreased by 2 seconds
>flashbang cooldown decreased by 2 seconds
>ult can target enemies behind you

Solder 76
>magazine increased to 30
>tactical visor lasts 8 seconds

Bastion
>self-repair can be used while moving

Hanzo
>dragon strike can now be shot twice - each shot summoning one dragon

Mei
>ult range increased to 15 meters

Torbjorn
>can now build turrets on walls
>turret range increased to 50 meters

Widowmaker
>grappling hook cooldown decreased to 8 seconds
>sniper has increased aim assist towards the head

D.Va
>damage and range increased by 10% and 40 meters respectively
>self destruct range increased to 25 meters

Zenyatta
>orb of harmony can be applied to 3 heroes simultaneously
>orb of discord can attach to 2 enemies
>health increased to 200

Junkrat
>no change
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>>148114643
Someone really needs to get in SFM and give us a Pharah on a tracksuit.
And Pharah in sports clothes in general.
>>
>>148110479

>making up stories to tell on the internet

What variation are you expecting you stupid lying cunt?
>>
>>148114867
that's why she has 150 hp nob
>>
>>148110621

Because you touch yourself at night
>>
>>148114894
>implying
Nigger, my uncle IS Blizzard. Here are the actual patch notes.

Your Favorite Heroes
>Damage, HP and potential healing reduced by 50%

Your Least Favorite Heroes
>Damage, HP and potential healing increased by 50%
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>>148114894
>Junkrat
>>no change
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>>148114901
we absolutely need this

I have about a million r34 sfm clips and none have pharah because her model is worthless in a mech suit
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new
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>>148115084
Also, Pharah in high socks.
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>>148115127
you're waifu a weeb slut
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>>148115127
there's new d.va content like every 30 minutes
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>>148109023
I like cinnabar the most even though i dont play him too often
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>>148111698
>dat zenyatta green arrow

my sides
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>>148114075
And?
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So I voluntarily play with 2 genji mains but I still care about my winrate, any heroes that are solid to carry when you consistently have a team comp with more than one genji?

I feel either zarya, rein or mercy does pretty well but I am still having my doubts.
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>>148115407
saved, thanks.
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>>148115687
Zarya is good. I play with a mate in a duo, I'm always Genji, sometimes he's Genji too or Zarya. Coordinating a shield just as you jump on their mercy is a lifesaver.
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How the fuck do i counter Mei as genji
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>>148115724
here, I uploaded my d.va images, I saved these with the intention of sharing, but I don't want to just post them all

hanna isn't my favorite so I only save the ones that stand out

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzgVpcftbTVNc0pFaEI0LUc2cGs>

>>148116245
switch to a different hero or poke her ineffectually from range for 5 minutes
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>>148116245
Engage her out of her range and be able to aim your shruikens properly. You can't REALLY kill her because she gets a free do-over with turning into an iceblock. Chances are her team will rock up if you wait her out. DO NOT wait for the last moment to dash away from her when she's freezing you.

If I had a ninja star for every time I dashed away only to teleport back and freeze in place because lmao20tick I'd never have to reload again
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>>148112537
>>148112537
Have better situational awareness
Don't play aggressively
Listen for enemies
When someone is rushing you pop a couple of shots and glide away.
>>
Why doesn't genji have a smoke bomb?
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>>148115687
zarya, lucio extremely effective with 2 genjis
>>
>>148116245
Same way you should be getting alot of your kills, dropping on them when they are weak or distracted. Others than that what >>148116534 said.
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>>148105912

Since I main Mercy, I'd recommend Mercy. First off, you sort of have to stick with people to avoid getting killed off. Second of all, flying around helps you get used to traversing the maps, in my opinion. And thirdly, running away from every enemy will help you get better at not dying with anyone else.

I've already put 24 hours into Mercy, but I've had to mix it up lately and I've noticed I'm not dying as much as I used to
>>
>>148112537
When I play as Mercy, I try to stay in a group while using guardian angel to dodge from person to person. I also try and land as many shots as I can, since damage boost won't help if my team won't don't guide their shots
>>
How the fuck do I git gud at aiming? My aim is like 25% on a good day
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