/lite/ Roguelite General

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Come on now, last thread hit bump limit. Can't let this one die.

>>148024813
the op forgot to make a new thread

moni

>>148025393
meme triangle

>>148025541
yv alwayz luks out 4 his homiez

I sure do like me some no-hit runs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_txpDzBveQ

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>tfw I'll never unlock Bullet

Hurts.

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>>148026410
>tfw you unlocked him

>>148028131
>Digimon and Angela Anaconda did a collab

Early 2000's was a magical time

>>148025694
fug
>tfw you will never be this good

>>148025694
Can robot extinguish bullet king's ground fire with his coolant leak?

>>148023794
>being this bad at making your general live
step up senpais

>>148025218
>every OP is the same
autism

>>148029078
Yep.
More efficient to just shoot it out of the air though

>>148025694
>misses a shot
>megahand consolation prize
>imokaywiththis

>>148029268
It made sense to let it die during the night. Almost no one was posting and I wasn't about to pull an all nighter just to bump it.

>>148024813
that courageous style stress buff shit almost never happens

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>Briefcase full of cash
>Microtransaction gun

Oh my fuck

>>148032983
LOADS

>>148034652
OF

>>148028871
Old King would've been the biggest hurdle, but that Black chest prevented me from going there.
>>148029598
Exactly my thoughts!

>>148035928
oh hey it's shazbot

>>148035754
EMONE

WEOO WEOO WEOO
NEW NUCLEAR THRONE TOGETHER UPDATE
https://yellowafterlife.itch.io/nuclear-throne-together/purchase

>>148034652
>>148035754
>>148036264
RIGHT LADS, WADS OUT FOR THE LADIES

>>148036464
LOADS OF LOADS OF LOADS OF

>>148034652
>>148035754
>>148036264
>>148036464
>>148036669
lance is the best

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>tfw you monumentally fuck up and don't get the first floor flawless

You know those carnival like mini games in Enter the Gungeon, where you pay the guy with the top hat money and shoot at targets to get a chest?
Is there a guide or picture that shows how to do each one perfect?

>>148040053
I've wanted this forever. Eventually I got ok and won. Flying helps. The unlock is good.

>>148040053
since targets move it would be hard to make one

>>148040230
No, I know. Just a general outline, like 'step 1, aim here and wait until the room looks like this to shoot etc'
If there was a pro out there that has a fetish for helping out idiots and documenting stuff I'd appreciate it.

>>148040223
Yeah, only had the pleasure of having wax wings once while playing it. Only time I got all targets

>>148040053
>Winchester game never die.
>Praying that the seven leaf clover
>will always be in your inventory.

>>148038842
It looks like he is gonna take a huge dump on his desk.

You reckon broccoli is worth getting rid of ring of miserly protection?
I also have gundromeda strain

>>148045793
Depends on how well you play/how likely you'll need the hp.

The map generation for bullet hell is fucking obnoxious.
I can never even reach the lich because going through hundreds of fucking rooms with no drops bleeds all my ammo and HP.

I know it's supposed to be hard but this is a bit obscene.

>>148045793
yes

>>148045793
I'd say any passive upgrade is worth getting rid of miserly protection. HP only makes you feel safe and then you lose it all cause your damage is too impotent. I'm never happy to see ring of miserly protection unless I'm currently holding cigarettes.

Is there any way to stop mimics from dropping the item into the spikes in secret rooms or the blank shrine room for example? It's impossible to kill mimics on those small platforms without them spawning the loot into the spikes. I hate how EtG has a lot of these fucked up scenarios that you really can't do much about. Do mimics turn back into normal chests if you drop mimic tooth necklace? I'd gladly use 1 key and receive the item than save a key just for the game to spawn the item out of my reach.

>>148052565
Blank?

Did the latest NTT update add ultras? I heard it did but when me and my friend got to level ultra we just got the same old ultras. I was melting and he was horror incase that makes a difference.

So why did they slightly alter the normal chests rarity colours and make green better than blue?
Was it just to fuck with people?
If so, that's hilarious

>>148055002
green has always been better than blue

>>148055082
I don't mean they changed it in EtG. I mean, in almost any other game ever it's gone white<green<blue<purple<orange

Just thought it was funny that in Gungeon Green chests are better than blue ones

>>148052565
In the current patch, freezing a mimic then knocking it into a pit will guarantee that the item will not fall into a pit. At the same time, this will also spawn a duplicate of the drop.

With the exception of the secret room with a pit, mimics anywhere else will follow the player out of its original room, so you can lure them into a pit-less room first.

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>first floor polaris

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>first floor gunther

>>148055715
You mean to say different things are different in different games? Woah.

>>148057913
Why are you so upset?

All I said was they took the usual colour coding of loot tiers and changed it slightly.
No need to shower me in angst and sarcasm.

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>Marine alt skin

>>148058521
hol up

>>148058521
Fucking kek

>>148058164
Anger? No. Sarcasm? Yes. It's laughable to expect things to be the same from game to game. Not to mention I've never played a single game with the chest color scheme you describe.

>>148059261
AY YO HOL UP

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>>148059307
If you're going to try to act condescending you should probably make sure you know what you're taking about beforehand.

http://www.giantbomb.com/color-coded-loot/3015-4702/

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>>148060252

>>148058521
In the movie, does he scream a lot while running ?

>>148023794
Bill Cipher prototype?

>>148060405
>make sure you know what you're taking about beforehand.
>I've never played a single game with the chest color scheme you describe.

I've never played a single one of the games mentioned in that article. And no game I'm familiar with shares that color scheme. Go figure.

>>148063145
All I was saying was that it's a very standard colour coding system that has been used dozens of times since 2004.
Typically, blue is better than green.
In Gungeon, green is better than blue, and that's the only deviation from the standard tiers.

I was saying it would be funny if the devs were aware of this and switched them to fuck with players. So they'd open shittier chests because they were used to the standard tiers.

Then you had to make it into a whole thing because you felt like being snarky.
That's where we're at right now.

>>148064090
When I first played Gungeon, I thought that green, brown, and blue chests were all the same tier, while black and red chests were the better tier.

Normal chest, and big chest. I thought the colors were purely cosmetic.

>>148065028
Yeah, me too. Even playing blind, after a few runs you start to realize some chests have better stuff though.

What threw me off in the beginning was the sling.
Thought it was the best because it melts bosses. Seems way too good for a brown chest

I hope when they make an expansion they add in pasts for Brobot and Brollet

>>148066827
I expect they will do it in a future update.

>>148054934
Read the readme. If it doesn't say anything about ultras, that update isn't live yet. They've been trying to iron out all of the bugs associated with co-op ultras since they weren't designed to work with co-op, giving us results such as Determination overwriting the other player's weapons, multiple trips to YVbaby's crib, etc

Are there unlocks for beating the Lich as each character?
Or do you just need to do it once?
At my current skill level it seems unfathomable that I'll ever even manage that

>>148067727
Currently you only need to take him down once.

>>148068038
Thank god.
Well, that suits me because I'm bad.
I imagine it makes other players angry because you get less stuff for beating him

>>148068240
You'll get there with practice. It's a tough game and demands nothing less than perfection, but it is designed in such a way that it is completely doable.

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>>148068240
If they were to add incentive to kill him with everyone I think unlocking a chibi version of him as a playable character would be fun.
After you beat him as every character

I'm about to pull my hair out trying to get a cunt with a red cape to spawn.
I ONLY NEED ONE FUCKING MORE. JUST GIVE HIM TO ME.

>>148067527
hoping

>>148070020
They appear more often on later chambers. In addition, they are an added spawn to a room, so much easier to tell apart on later chambers as a result.

>>148070369
Yeah, I know. Im just bitching.
Been at it for hours

>>148054934
>>148067548
It's my understanding that the individual ultra mutations are a setting. Yal wrote a fully-featured blog post making mention of their inclusion, so it'd be strange if they weren't included in v38.

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Oh hey, what's up man?
Yeah, this shaft is really fucked.
Tell you what, I can fix it if you provide me with the tools necessary.
Ill just need
8 keys
1000 casings
9 heart containers
A foot rub
A Blu-ray of Top Gun
A pulled pork BBQ submarine
Then I'm going to need you to blow me for about 20 minutes, uninterrupted.

You get all that?

>>148074503
I'm surprised he didn't ask for the rarest of pepes.

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>>148075324
Its because he knew nobody would be willing to part with it

When you 'reload' the blasphemy does it do anything? Or is it just for style points?

>>148077063
Reloading Blasphemy also blanks bullets around the user. This can be extended by tapping reload twice (reload bar will appear like reloading other guns). During either reload animation, nearby enemies will be pushed away.

>>148077410
Geez dude.
Bullet is the fucking coolest

>>148077543
I don't like him as much as I used to. He is ez-modo

Blessed runs are so much fucking fun

>>148078229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pSAQUmR0OI

What would all of you want in new Gungeon characters?
What is the thing you'd like to be focused on the most in potential expansions?
An emphasis on interesting passives or alt levels and more paths to keep things fresh run to run?

>>148082657
>What would all of you want in new Gungeon characters?
No idea, the ones that exist already are pretty good.

>What is the thing you'd like to be focused on the most in potential expansions?
Alt paths, past for robot and bullet, kalibur as a true last boss

>An emphasis on interesting passives or alt levels and more paths to keep things fresh run to run?
There are 2 alt paths currently. I'd like to see 3 more.

I really want a playable lich.
Every since I saw that fucker in the pause screen I wanted to play as that Clint Eastwood skeleman.

Other than that alt paths would be great.
One of the best parts of Isaac is not knowing whether you'll be in the basement or cellar.
Choosing to fight Satan or Isaac.

Alt floors really spices things up.
I would made that my top priority.

Make some actives and passives that help facilitate wacky shit happening.
Shit like ring of triggers. Anything that could make bullets act interestingly and get some fun synergies going.

I guess I just want more of everything because I'm fucking greedy and the base game is already so solid.
But yeah, my #1 dream is playable lich.
I would pay money to make that happen.

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>>148084018
Meant for >>148082657

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>first chamber
>HOLY FUCK BLACK CHEST YES
green guan stone

tfw barely any Acrid r34

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Hey big bro, sucks that your girlfriend couldn't come over.
Maybe I could be your girlfriend tonight

>>148085427
i-is that really ok?

>>148074503
Wouldn't mind those last few parts

>>148084018
Playable lich/expanding on his story would be cool.

>>148078224
His ease of use makes him a very fun and consistent speedrun character.

>>148083371
More chambers would be very cool and be a more reliable way to get decent runs almost every time.

Kind of a bummer that you can't get an HP+ from Blobulord.

I feel like 2 keys to get down there and you going through a whole floor with harder enemies than floor 2 proper should at least grant you the opportunity to flawless him and get some extra breathing room.

>>148091670
To be fair, casings earned on Oubliette alone refund at least one key through the shop. One key for any gun drop from Blobulord isn't too shabby.

>>148091670
>>148092409
Speaking of, does Blobulord have a really good item pool or something?
Don't think he's ever dropped a shit item for me and he gives me the heroine constantly.

Also, did they patch it so that a water barrel is always in the fireplace room? Can't remember the last time I had to kick barrels through halls

>>148092543
I like to think he does, though in reality he could give something as bad as the Dueling Pistol. Have gotten a large amount of S-tier guns from Blob by far however.

After beating the Oubliette once, the water barrel will always appear in the fireplace room.

Never see a lot of love for transmog guns here.
Bundle of wands, witch pistol and hexagun are GOAT for general room clearing

>>148094843
oh yeah they're great for sure, but the snake gun can go fuck itself, getting rid of my well deserved casings

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>>148094843
>>148094936
>Grim reaper pops up, can't kill him obviously
>Shoot the fucking GRIM REAPER with bundle of wands
>Turn it into a chicken
>I've dispatched the concept of death itself by turning it into a shitty little bird

Radical.
Wonder if it works on the max curse mega reaper

>>148074503
This is the only shit I haven't finished in the whole game, I can give him any master rounds, I can give him 100 H-money, BUT. I. CANT. FUCKING. GIVE. HIM. ALL. DAT. MONEY.

>>148095479
Elevator isn't going to fix itself man.
I promise it's all for tools and not a new TV/couch

You DO want boss rush mode, dont you?

>>148095405
It does.
Trust me,
I know
>instant curse

What's the best combo for etg that doesn't include Gunther?
I'd say it would be scrambler, metronome, and hip holster.
That's how I got to the forge for the first time and killed dragun

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>Second floor
>Ammoconda

It's alright.
I didn't want the HP up anyway

>>148096379
Ammoconda is worse than high priest for me at this point

>>148095920
I had ring of ethereal form and potion of lead skin with max coolness and ice cube. I was permanently unkillable if I just bothered to keep on switching the items.
Owl + chaos ammolet is easy to obtain and makes normal rooms a cake walk. Also any stealing item makes the game a lot easier.

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>>148096379
>Gatling Gull
>Ammoconda
>Cannonbalrog
>High priest

I love fighting the lich with 3 HP.
Thank you so much video game.

Started playing etg yesterday and already have a pretty good hang of things.
What does "beastmode" in options do?
Hardmode? I don't see a difference yet

>>148101269
It's just a gag setting.
You can put it on for an achievement when you beat the game.

Bump with a quote


"You could fairly easily get hit three times on the first floor"

-Nothernlion on episode 105 of Enter The Gungeon (21:25)

>>148103653
Scum egg did nothing wrong.

>>148104291
NL dindu nuffin

robit needz 2 be buffed
is unfair :^(((

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>>148106138
>tfw I killed the lich with robot on my first try

>>148106138
I think HP ups should give you 2 armour.
An HP tank equals 2 hits, as such, if you find one as robot you should get two armour.
Or at least one.

Getting items that do nothing at all is frustrating when you're wasting keys

>grinding out greed machine donations with azazel because 2 ez
>4% chance to jam
>jams 3 coins later

Is there a way to lower the percentage for her because I don't foresee myself getting to 1000 otherwise?

>>148106803
Nope

But you can finish all the donation in the greed machine in one run

http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Greed_Machine#Quicker_Donating_to_the_Greed_Machine

Basically you find a way to get infinite money (fairly easy) and then buy items until you get the glowing hour glass which lets you reset the room and unjams the machine

>>148106621
>>148106802
People are taking a post with a :^((( face in it seriously?

>>148107196
Thanks for this information. I can't stand having to do a million different runs just to unlock the keeper.

>>148103653
Wow, I gave up on watching NL play EtG. He just did and said too many stupid things.

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>ctrl F
>no 20XX, aka the best Mega Man X game

Anons, I'm disappoint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpQ3HWK_kwU

>kill dragun
>forgot to pick up the bullet
aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>be Marine
>get shot

>be yv
>be a nigger
>shit, you're a nigger

>>148110912
Early Access :-(

Necropolis comes out in a few days. Looks cool.

>>148110912
Why is the art for this game so ugly? How hard is it to hire a decent sprite artist?

>>148119241
so is most everything else

>>148125085
Nothing I play

>>148125880
what do you play?

>>148126107
Gungeon, Isaac, Spelunky, Necrodancer, and Downwell.

>>148126107
How about you?

Any opinions on Dungeon Souls (http://store.steampowered.com/app/383230/)? Looks a lot like Nuclear Throne but I'm scared of that early access shit.

>>148129693
It's alright, but it's very repetetive and also very laggy

>>148071467
>>148067548
Oh, sorry. I just saw Sleepcycles post a video where he did co-op ultras and the version number was the same as the one I downloaded, but I guess it was like a test version or something

Is Nuclear Throne dead af or do people still care about it.

Is vlambo working on something else?

>>148134978
Been completely dead for half a year.
https://twitter.com/tha_rami
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRLgkNFgm1U

>>148106803
>Her
azazel is a boy, friendo.

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>>148137538
Do you like moistening people?

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>>148138652
>Around.mp3

>>148139486
>not linking best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWggMTA9ZU

>>148139486
>>148139697
Good times never last

>>148138652
hey kid, take it easy on those pills...

Leaving this world isn't as scary as it sounds

>>148139697
I was about to correct you and point out that you're a projecting piece of shit but then I realized that "Modulogeek" isn't the name of the song...

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What would you want for alt skins if robot and bullet get past kills?

Mini bullet king would be a cool bullet skin.
Maybe this guy for Robot.

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>>148142953
i'm a computer
i'm a computery guy

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>>148142953
BEEP BOOP

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>>148140823

>>148142953
Since he's the only melee character it would be cool if they gave Bullet the letterman jacket from Hotline Miami

>>148141239
>Leaving this world isn't as scary as it sounds
Leaving this basement isn't as scary as it sounds.

>>148145509
Hey come on, let's not get hasty here

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Who else mains Eyes here?

>>148146978
Ye'
Telekinesis is crazy valuable

Who do you think would get along among all the characters in the typical roguelike games?

Chicken and bullet would probably hang out.

>>148148005
I could see Acrid and Plant getting along

>>148148005
I feel like they would argue about asian swords vs european swords

>>148148005
I want to think highwayman and pilot would be space thieving buddies
After all, what better highway than space's?

>>148148005
Is saying Robot and Robot too obvious?

>>148148005
Huntress (RoR) and Hunter (Gungeon)

>>148148005
Convict and YV would get along

Mutation Tier List?
GOD TIER
>Gamma Guts
>Scarier Face
>Impact Wrists
>Trigger Fingers
>Long Arms

GOOD TIER
>Throne Butt
>Laser Brain
>Boiling Veins
>Bloodlust
>Back Muscle
>Strong Spirit

SHIT TIER
>Rabbit Paw
>Shotgun Shoulders
>Sharp Teeth
>Eagle Eyes
>Lucky Shot
>Plutonium Hunger
>Stress
>Open Mind
>Heavy Heart
>Extra Feet
>Euphoria
>Last Wish
>Recycle Gland
>Rhino Skin

PATIENCE TIER:
>Patience

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>>148137538

>>148151303
Never make a tier list again, please.

>>148151907
What's so bad about it?

>>148151303
The value of mutations varies too much for a tier list. For example, if I already took a couple weapon-specific mutations, I'm not taking another. It depends on characters too: Throne Butt is the best mutation as Eyes (imo) and one of the worst as Crystal or Fish.

That being said, Scarier Face, Back Muscle and Impact Wrists are too high, and Pluto, Rabbit Paw and Shotgun shoulders are too high.

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>>148154672
>throne butt
>one of the worst as Crystal
I want YV babies to leave.

>>148151956
EVERYTHING
Why is there so much mutations in shit tier?
Where the fuck is bolt marrow?
Please take Crown of Destiny and do at least two hours worth of runs with it until you learn to appreciate every mutation. Every single one of them.

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>>148154887
>Calling other people babbies when playing as the "I can't dodge bullets" character

>>148155451
There's a difference between "I have to teleport in another place to dodge a lethal shot swing" and "lol press M2 to win"

>>148155738
It's almost like every character is fun and its dumb to say stuff like YV babies or something

>>148156094
Yes, but fun at no expense is different to fun that you actually earned.

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>Your skill level is getting to the point where you can actually reach throne now
>You start understanding what mutations do, and what synergizes

Posted this on /indie/, but then realized you guys would enjoy it more.
twitch tv/devolverdigital
Every time the streamer dies, he posts a steam code in chat. Since you can get EtG and Downwell, it might be cool for those that don't have it yet.

>>148158998
Don't care if it sounds like I'm sucking corporate cock
Devolver is fucking rad.

They've been killing it the past few years

>>148151303

God:
>Scary Faces

I WANT TO LIVE!
>Second Stomache + Rabbit Paw
>Rabbit Paw
>Bloodlust + Impact Wrist
>Sharp Teeth
>Last Wish

I WANT TO USE SUPER GUNS!
>Eagle Eye
>Strong Back
>Lucky Shot
>Any of the ammo type mutations

I WANT TO USE A SLOW WEAPON!
>Trigger Fingers
>Strong Back
>Stress
>Any of the ammo type mutations

I don't want to die to melee charging enemies or explosions tier:
>Boiling Veins
>Strong Spirit
>Rhino Skin

I WANT THE HASTE CROWN TIER
>Plutonium Hunger
>Rabbit Paw

Melee Tier:
>Long Arms
>Trigger Fingers
>Euphoria

The only WHY tier perks are Open Mind and Heavy Hearth. If Extra Feet disabled melee movement, and melee hitbox moved with the extra feet, it would be a good perk.

>>148158998
holy shit he's dying fucking often.

I got downwell, almost wanna try for EtG but don't wanna be a dick and take more than one

>>148162373

Most people already have EtG, the code remains unclaimed if it's a duplicate, so no harm done. I'm only not trying anymore because Steam locked me out of trying to activate codes for a while.

>>148162373
>I got downwell, almost wanna try for EtG but don't wanna be a dick and take more than one
How is it possible to not have literally the only good games mentioned in this thread.

>>148158998
how do people redeem so quickly jesus

>>148158998
>already got titan souls and hatoful boyfriend
this shit is fun

I got some bullshit called hatoful boyfriend holiday star. Don't get me wrong, I understand that beggars can't be choosers, but never have I felt so meme'd in my life. To be fair I already own EtG and Downwell and they're the best things I've seen them give away.

>>148165158
The only worse trash he could give me than Hatoful boyfriend would be Nuclear Throne. Polute my account right up. JUST.png

>>148158998
>got 3 hatoful boyfriend codes and nothing else
>steam blocks me from trying because I put in too many duplicates
fucking kill me

>>148158998
>have downwell and gungeon already
>get the same title 3 times in a row

never have i been cucked so much in my entire life

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>>148166416

Does the shopkeeper have a fixed (or rising) percentage of catching you stealing, or is there actual skill involved?

>>148094843
>bundle of wands
>scattershot
>double vision
>cigarettes and ice cube
Infinite kfc

>found one rainbow chest in 400 hours playtime
>was in a secret room
>was in the secret room with the pit
>5 items fall into it
>see pig and akey fall to their death
>end up with rattler, brick of cash and heart of ice

fml

>>148158998
He was playing Titan Souls. Is that game actually any good?

>>148170732
At least you've seen one you fuck.
Stop taunting me

>>148162706
>Steam locked me out of trying to activate codes for a while.
I was locked out too.

>>148159338
They've published a lot of great games.

>>148158998
Is it over now?
Does he always do this?

>>148180162
Yes. No.

beat dungeon of the endless for the first time and I wanna go in again, but I'm sort of at a loss for which two people to bring in for round 2

are the DLC folk any interesting?

>>148185749
never mind, looks like pekenyo and mr.conagher are headed to the top

>>148185749
How is this game?

>>148188212
DotE is a great game, I have beaten it multiple times and am currently using the drill pod (endless mode), as it doesn't really get old. It requires quite a bit of planning when it comes to what to research to protect/attack enemies in certain rooms, and where you want to light up, which adds to the fun for me. There are plenty of characters for you to unlock/start with so you will almost always have a different party with different sets of good and bad traits/skillls each time depending on how you want to play. Some like to be in the dark, which adds more enemy spawns, some like to be in groups which usually adds a defense or strength boost to others, some like to be alone which adds the boost to themselves when they are, some have the ability to give you dust (what lights the rooms up) whenever they kill an enemy. I really love this game and how they make everything work out. If you have the extra money, I would suggest it if you like strategy.

>>148146978
I Don't Main Eyes, but if I understand he's all about control of your landscape right?

Also a great melee character if built right.

>>148191585
I don't main eyes either, I main the random button. Anyways, yeah, he is an amazing melee character if you get the right mutations and choose the enemies are pushed away from you ultra. That and long arms are amazing together, add other melee mutations and you got yourself one hell of a good melee character.

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Does anyone have that image of Isaac in Maggie's wig and kissing Eve's dead bird?

>>148191585
It's more about taking advantage than manipulating. Eyes can only manipulate the terrain to a certain degree, but his control over enemies and their bullets is absolute. If you can get a weapon that allows you to manipulate the terrain to the degree Rogue can, there's very little in the game that can realistically stop you. For that reason, double melee (E.Hammer + Anything else) is viable

Don't die on me. Everyone post your NT daily scores? I am about to do the daily right now.

>>148196707
Dailies are fucking stupid. I don't care what game they're in.

So does /lite have any stories where their mutations were doing more work than their weapons?

>>148198114
this NT daily right here. Boiling veins, Scarier face, and gamma guts. Just cleared a whole level with mutations aside from the occasional heavy grenade launcher usage for the rhino freaks.

>>148074503
>unlocked all elevators before beatin dragun
>cleared game so "fast" i spent half of total hours just making hunting quests
>only needs to get lies and become gunknight to 100% game
>realize i played the reverse way of /vg/
Is NT any good?

So In cdda I have a dirty water tank and funnel in my car, but it seems no matter where I put them the tank never fills up.

>>148198114
My typical Rogue build revolves around turning myself into the weapon, rather than relying on the weapon itself. Sharp Teeth, Gamma Guts, Throne Butt for bigger booms, Impact Wrists, Extra Feet to close the gaps faster, and Scarier Face as the icing on the cake, though sometimes I'll be more in the mood for brownies than cake and leave it be. You'd think Super Blast Armor would be the logical Ultra in this situation, but choosing Super Blast Armor is when the arguments towards Blast Armor being a detriment to your runs become valid. Super Portal Strike is better, anyway.

>Rogue Rifle to soften up enemies
>Gamma Guts for the finisher
>Reversal for tankier enemies like snowtanks, Big Loop Bandits, and other such enemies that don't deal contact damage. GGing a snowtank without Boilies is a fucking trip
>Super Thronebutt Portal Strikes into massive crowds with Impact Wrists sending everything flying off into a murder spree
>Sharp Teeth for in case something goes wrong, makes quick work of loop crowds

>Meanwhile, Recycling Gland, Back Muscles, and Rabbit Paw ensure I never run out of ammo, ever. For the reason that RG is gonna keep my bullets stocked anyway, Rabbit Paw is always optional.
>Crown of Love. It's not necessary, more symbolic desu

You know those old arcade games where you basically never stop shooting? It's like that, and it's a fucking rush.

>>148198489
Gameplay is fast-paced and hectic. Your average run to get the normal ending will be about ~10-15 minutes, give or take.

Art and Music are god tier. They were paid by commission, and really put in their money's worth.

The game is buggy as shit. If you purchase it, download the Nuclear Throne Together mod and play it instead. On top of bugfixes, it comes with replays, online co-op, and playable secret characters from the get-go, while barring you from playing daily and weekly runs for obvious reasons.
Pirate it to test the waters.

>>148200893
Steam Refunds exist btw so you can also go that route.

>>148198489
>Is NT any good?
No. I'd refund it if I could.

>>148198489
Nuclear Throne is an amazing game, it is definitely worth buying. I have gotten over 700 hours worth of fun out of it so far, and it still isn't boring.

>>148198489
Wait till it goes on sale before buying.

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>>148202629

night lite

>>148206776
gn

Does anyone else feel like "no popo" is more like a plea for mercy than a battlecry for yvbabies? I've noticed that too many of them open the IDPD Chests without popping a single cop

>>148200893
>The game is buggy as shit.
???

The "buggiest" part of the game is that its not obvious what some augments do, like Sharp Teeth, and the wiki doesn't document the obvious iframe extension either.

What's a good Roguelite for android?

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>0 discussion of Necropolis
>Top seller on steam
>Releases today
How is Dark Souls Lite getting so little attention?

>>148213165
>Barrel scorchmarks displace portals. This is a fault of Game Maker in the developers' defense
>Big Bandit can die upon stage entry
>Big Bandit can take multiple hits from melee weapons and projectile weapons (ie, thrown Chicken weapons when Thronebutt has been taken and Gun Gun weapons). Various other enemies share this behavior, such as Fire Salamanders in the scrapyard, Guardian Dogs in The Palace, Big Dog, etc, as Mercy Invincibility is tied to the sprite animations.

>No errors in the Sewers. Go figure.

>Portal Strike Canisters are guaranteed not to spawn on 3-1 due to YV's car. Furthermore, the car has a chance to explode due to colliding with chests, making it so you do not get strikes nor a chance to go to the mansion
>Proto-Statues retain charge between runs. This was fixed in the u99 beta
>Bolts can attempt to home in on Crows that are still mid-air, causing a softlock. This behavior is also shared with Lil' Hunter.
>Corrupted Crown Vaults, in which the level will increment itself back to the prior level. This was solved in Nuclear Throne Together, caused by a Guardian Statue colliding with a chest in generation, which thereby destroyed the CrownPickup object, which resets the level upon destruction. This allows the game to attempt to populate the levels
>Big Dog does not return rads collected from Horror's Rad Beam

>No errors in the Crystal Caves. Go figure.

>Cars carried by Snowbots revert to Scrapyard cars upon death if the Proto Statue has been activated and destroyed.
>Snowbots can hit you through walls. Furthermore, ALL projectiles can hit you through walls. That's another story entirely.
>See prior entry about Bolt Marrow softlock

>Level generation in the labs is finnicky; occasionally, you'll get a level with an overwhelming number of enemies, or three necromancers and a few Freaks running around.

>See Big Bandit entry on taking multiple hits at once with Guardian Dogs

>>148223319
>Throne II crashes the game upon spawning if it is taking damage while the Boss Intro splash comes up. This has been fixed in NTT, though I am unsure if this has been fixed in the current game.
>In spite of the fact that they stated this was fixed multiple times, Lightning STILL collides with invisible walls on 0-1

>Loop Bosses can easily get themselves stuck in walls. This is not particularly a problem with Hyper Crystal, but can be bothersome with Ballmum and Technomancer, as they have no means to break themselves out efficiently
>Ballmum's regeneration isn't clearly conveyed to the player. A sprite is displayed whenever she absorbs toxins, but it is covered by not only the toxins she's absorbing, but the bullets that are being spammed by the toxic ballguys that are constantly spamming bullets and toxins over the animation. This isn't an error, but it's just bullshit.
>On the topic, Ballmum occasionally won't spawn the Frog Pistol even if the proper conditions are met.

>An error I forgot while typing up the last post: Cursed Laser Crystals do the fragcheck before detecting if their teleport was successful. This means that you can use Hammerhead to make yourself a cubbyhole, a Cursed Laser Crystal will attempt to teleport into that space and fail, but you will still get fragged.

That's about it for area-specific stuff.

>>148223319
Don't forget that all enemies can hit you with contact damage through walls, because there is no collision check.
Should've added that to the snowbot part.

>>148223730
I'm also going to relist a few things that I already stated, just for the hell of it.
>Possible to damage certain enemies multiple times if they're caught in a certain frame. This is particularly noticeable against Big Bandit, Big Dog, and Guardian Dogs
>>This also applies to the player -- it happens with lasers that are used against you
>Items will occasionally fail to generate outright. This is either due to intentionally replacing them (Rad Canisters/Strike Canisters on 3-1 being the most obvious example), or simply failing to spawn them. This is particularly bothersome for Rogue players.
>Props are destroyed by Chests in level generation. Should they collide with a chest, they initiate their destruction code, which (as stated earlier) is what produced the Corrupted Crown Vault glitch
>Furthermore, items in general will attempt to generate on top of each other. This is probably why items are failing to generate.

>IDPD Inspectors' slugs can still damage you, even if they're in the fadeout part of their animation. This has been fixed in NTT.
>IDPD grenades will occasionally get stuck in, and "bounce" against walls, causing the richochet sound to play in rapid succession while creating dust particles at an equally high rate.
>IDPD Elite Shielders *do* *not* *teleport*. This was fixed in u99 beta, and is currently fixed in NTT.
>IDPD Vans can be pushed with bullet weapons, such as the Hyper Rifle. I suppose this isn't really a game breaking bug, but kinda funny? It still should not happen.

>Graphical errors involving the tops of walls rendering when walls are not there
>Often, sounds will loop indefinitely. Fire Salamanders, Boss Music, etc

>>148224135
I forgot to mention,
>As Rogue, with Crown of Love and Open Mind, there is a chance to spawn a total of six(6) chests on one level; four ammo chests, and two strike canisters. I do not know if this behavior carries over to other mutants.
>Additionally, Rogue's Portal Strike Canisters can be replaced with Rad Canisters when spawning a Large Weapon Chest. This error has been fixed in NTT.

>Save for Melting, I have not been able to find that many errors.
>Melting does not replenish Strong Spirit when taking Crown of Death, as it leaves him with a total of 1hp.
>Taking Detachment and Crown of Death will give you 1/0HP, killing you on the next level. This was unintentional, but JW thought it was fitting, and thus left it in. I just felt like mentioning it because I thought it was funny.

>YV can get infinite ammo by BRAAAPing an Ultra Weapon when he has insufficient rads to fire. This requires ThroneButt and the free Pop Pop Ultra mutation.
>YV still gets caught in infinite level loops on occasion
>YV can still Pop Pop/BRAAAP melee weapons that consume ammo. He is not supposed to be able to do it at all, since melee damage does not stack.

>Rebel's Motherfuckers will aim at a shielded shielder. This isn't an error, it's just plain stupid.

>Certain enemies do not pass on rads absorbed by Horror's Terror Beam. These include, but are not limited to: Big Dog, Throne I, Throne II, and Assassins.

>Frog cannot use Hammerhead. It simply does not work with the character at all.

That's only the tip of the iceberg. I'm just rocking off of memory here, and I've missed quite a bit, but to say that Nuclear Throne is not a buggy game is silly. I haven't even covered Co-Op, or the fact that the Sony Platform versions are unplayable in their current state. Single digit framerates when killing Big Dog is a pretty serious error.

>>148223906
Thank you

>>148224135
One more
>Some enemies' attacks are tied to their animation frame. This is most notable if you attack a Palace or Crown Guardian at *just* the right moment, and they start going ham with the projectiles

>>148222998
>$30

Eeeh. It's art is so incredibly simple I dunno if the pricetag is really justified.

bump

gotta start some conversations on here guys, I can't bump forever, I am going to sleep.

>>148222998
I expect it to be completely underwhelming
Its advertising the "so hard youll die and die its so hard" thing far too much and its putting up all sorta of red flags in my head
The combat looks incredibly slow and clunky

Expect 100's of refunds in the next 5 hours

>>148222998
Looks great but the asking price is far too high for what I'm willing to pay for such a thing. I'm surprised it is a top selling considering the difficulty is a selling point. If it's actually difficult tons of casuals will give it negative reviews instantly.

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Necropolis unabashedly trying to be roguelite Dark Souls got me thinking.

If you could take one game/game series and make a roguelite game inspired by it, what would you choose?

I know I'll get some flak for it, but I think Borderlands fits the formula perfectly.

>>148230724
Isn't that what Wasted already is?

>>148230560
>advertises its difficult
>succeeds and pulls in niche who like difficult games
>scares off casual audience
or
>advertises its difficult
>is actually very easy and disappoints all who came for difficulty
>lack of difficulty kills replayability
>casuals all refund within hours

Either way they've set themselves up for failure
The only reason Dark Souls gets away with advertising "difficulty" is because people expect it and those who know better are long time fans

From looking at the trailers you can tell that the people playing in them are being incredibly stupid, swinging wildly into enemy patterns
I have a feeling its gonna be column B and everyone over here will be disappointed

>>148230868
Except Wasted has very little content
Borderlands honestly does have the makings of a roguelite as its already basically a dungeon crawler

I know Necropolis is supposed to be it but a Dark Souls roguelite would be grand
Bloodborne had randomly generated dungeons and they worked alright. Give them more layouts and some more enemy designs and you'd have a shit roguelite ready to be polished up

>>148223319
>Snowbots can hit you through walls
Going by how melee works, that looks intentional.
>Furthermore, ALL projectiles can hit you through walls.
Trough a 1x0/0x1 wall, or a wall?

is bandit anon here?

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>yfw you get gun

Official ranking of Isaac characters

Eden > Isaac > Judas > Cain > Lazarus > Eve > The Lost > ??? > Azazel > (Probably Apollyon) > Magdelene > Lillith > The Keeper

>>148244191
>Eve and Lost this low
>Judas post-nerf this high
I rate your rank Isaac is a dead meme game/10

>>148244583
>b-but muh afterbirth +!!11!

>>148244191
>samson is apollyon
>samson is that low on the chain
>lillith is worse than maggie or the lost
>anyone is better than EZ-azel
shit list senpai

>>148245234
whoops forgot samson pretend he's high on the list

>>148244583
>Judas
>nerf
hey man i was baiting but do you know who judas is?

>>148245383
judas was nerfed in afterbirth, the book of bel-air no longer guarantees debil rooms

>>148245452
oh shit that's right
it's been too long

>>148245452
>he needs deals with the devil with that absurd starting damage
>he doesn't want sacred heart or godhead with those nuke tears
lol ok

>>148245572
Its still a nerf, whether you like it or not.
Who cares, Eve is better than him in almost every way anyway.

>>148245748
Wow, that's depressingly true
how hard of a U-turn did Isaac have to take to make Eve better than Judas?
not to mention making a character LESS FUN than the lost

Heads up anyone that doesn't own Spelunky yet, it's in the current humblebundle and 100% worth the price.

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>First floor AKey-47

The feeling of freedom is overwhelming

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>>148247035
>First floor shelleton key

>>148246537
convince me to get it
never played spelunky

>>148251627
It's an extremely well done challenging roguelite platformer. Spelunky is not only one of the best recent platformers it's one of the best roguelites. If you aren't into games with learning curves and/or platformers it's not for you.

>tfw you get a gun

>>148257124
>tfw no face

>>148245452
>book of bel-air
fuckin hell thats a good one

Turns out Necropolis is shit
ARPG's are dead and Souls 3 is the last
RIP fun

>>148261984
>implying all of the souls games aren't pure casual trash

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>>148243863
>tfw you get 20 guns

>>148246537
I sorta want roguelands but I already own Spelunky and don't care about anything else. :-\

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Dungeon Souls is a pretty cool game, eh!

>>148276942
Haven't played since the earliest of alphas
How is it now?

Is Enter the Gungeon worth the money/time? I've heard a lot of negative things about it like most of the guns being useless and keys being very limited

>>148277726
maybe

>>148277726
it's fun but it's really slow, unforgiving, guns are weak, not enough drops, health scaling, and bullshit bosses

>>148277726
Thats only earlygame and you can sell/recycle guns in some runs. Id go for it but its not for everyone.

>>148277726
Yes, it's good. Too challenging for most.

>>148277897
The words of a shitter.

Which is the worst mechanic in NT and why is it present chests?

>>148280827
In order: Level generation, generators, looping, crowns, mutations, guns, and last but not least present chests.

>>148234618
Mostly through corners. And it is most certainly not intentional, there's simply no collision check to see whether or not they're hitting through a wall.

JW wanted to fix Melee doing that at one point in time, but never actually went through with it.

Is it just me or the last few dailies were awful for Steroids?

>>148280827
>What are Guardian Dogs, if those count

There any point in going down to fight the old bullet king more than once?
I got the unlock already and I find myself in the altar room with the crest sometimes without necessarily trying to go down there again.
There any worth in it?
Other than if you're like, the fucking rainman of Gungeon and go down there to get some extra items?

>>148287489
>go down there to get some extra items?
Yeah, thats what I do when I have spare keys to oublilete.

B U M P

bumpoli

Does anyone have any good tips for getting a cursed run easily in EtG?

>>148295501
Know which items and actions will add curse and stay far away.

>>148098138
I find Gatling Gull to be easier than Bullet King to be honest

>>148151356
delete this

>>148298617
I agree with this guy.

Holy shit the NT daily.

I've never had such shit weapons in a run. I died against Lil Hunter cause I had to fight him with a Slugger and a Crossbow.

Mutations were solid though

>>148301407
Slugger and crossbow huh? Does that mean there are no melee weapons there? If so I should skip a few chests when I get my crossbow or slugger to try and get at least a wrench.

>>148305643
very constructive post friendo

>>148301407
>Lil' Hunter has 140hp
>Bolts from a standard Crossbow deal 20 damage
>Slugs deal 22 damage (24 when ricocheting off of a wall)
>7 shots from either to kill Lil' Hunter (Six, if you somehow manage to make every single slug bounce off a wall)

It's not undoable. It can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but there are worse setups.

>>148306532
Is your post any more constructive?

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content update when

>>148310986
yes

>>148230724
I'd honestly love to see a Borderlands mod for Gungeon that puts some of the legendaries in the game.

>conference call
>defiler
>baby maker
>hellfire
>sledge's shotgun
>lyuda
It'd be great.

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>>148311507
>baby maker synergizes with the ruby bracelet

>>148281603
>there's simply no collision check to see whether or not they're hitting through a wall.
Why would there be? A core point of Nuclear Throne is that melee goes trough walls, and you can fire weapons and deal damage trough checkerboard walls.

>>148315882
>and you can fire weapons and deal damage trough checkerboard walls.
With the *majority* of the weapons in the game, you're unable to fire through such a very rarely occurring structure, because you're not supposed to be able to in the first place. The only projectiles of yours that pass through walls are Bolts, and others that attain the speed of a bolt without actually colliding with the walls due to how fast they're moving (which is to say, Bolts again, since Bullets are too thick to behave in a similar fashion). The sole exception to this rule is Melee, because JW didn't know how to properly balance it out (though, I have no reason not to believe he simply did not know how to do it at the time).

Logic dictates that if you're not supposed to be able to fire through walls, but you're still able to take damage through them for whatever reason, something is amiss.

>>148317013
>because JW didn't know how to properly balance it out
So you are a faggot. Thank you tank.

>>148317352
...it was a point that JW himself covered in a dev stream during Early Access. He wanted to fix meleeing through walls, but an issue of balance came up. It's either that he didn't know how to balance it, or more likely, he didn't know how to implement such a change without breaking everything to begin with.

>be me
>get shot
woooow
WOOOOOOOOW

why is marine black

>>148320605
>Be me
>Melee enemy walks inside my hitbox
>It keeps staying inside it
WOOOOW
Woowowowoowo

>>148318159
>he didn't know how to implement such a change without breaking everything to begin with.
Thats just a code rewrite. No biggie.
Balance is far more important.
Sewers & Jungle is painful enough. If melee stops at walls, it wouldn't really be possible to do them with current melee.

There is just a lot of places where you hit trough a wall, because walls are a large obstacle.

>>148321218
>Thats just a code rewrite. No biggie.
Bear in mind that we're talking about the same guy that spent 30 minutes live, on twitch, trying to figure out why bolts were dealing 10 extra points of damage (which was fixed because a viewer pointed out the error)

>>148321384
Which isn't a coding issue, its a documentation issue.
No documentation = black box

>>148322176
Did you follow development at all? One of the selling points was a weekly livestream, and he proved on too many occasions to count that he's incapable of writing or documenting code. I have zero faith in the idea that he could write such a simple thing on-the-fly.

>>148320804
Because white was too obvious.