/evn/-Move your bum

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>tfw you absolutely have to work at 800x600

>>148006016
Why limit yourself anon?

>>148006016
Why?

>>148006016
Is a client making you? I can't think of any good reasons besides those, except as an aesthetic choice (an example of this would be Digital where it makes sense to have a 4:3 aspect).

>>148006073
>>148006116
>>148006543
There is a good reason

I wish things could be prettier but it will have to do

>post progress on twitter
>people unfollow
rrreeeeee

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>There are VNs being made RIGHT NOW that aren't 8k compliant.

>>148006959
kek

>post progress on twitter
>get dozens of followers for each tweet
Feels good man.

>>148014752
kek

>Have thousands of followers
>Post bat character for VN
>Batman follows me
Life is good.

ssssssssssss

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>>148016813
upholding bump quality since 2004

>implying you have my permission to die

>>148006016
Will there be pixel art involved?

Anon that was asking where to upload your VN, I have a question for you.

Where did you go? I have been waiting for 2 days since you said you would upload it.

Sincerely, your fellow anon
anon

>>148023603
I'm still here. I can't post it yet because I'm away from my computer. Thanks for caring about my shitty VN.

last bump and you're on your own

>>148026853
i'm always on my own :(

tick

>>148010405
Absolute noob here, what exactly does that mean? Not supporting 8k resolutions?

>>148028276
If your sprites are not made large enough to scale up to real size without losing quality, you're doing it wrong.

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It's stupid threadly renpy question time.
If I need to move an imagebutton n pixels to the right and n pixels down for every created iteration of this imagebutton, how do I write a transform to do this? In pseudocode:
>for i in enumerate(buttons_list):
>imagebutton at position
and for the transform:
>xalign 0.5+(position_modifier which is lets say 50 pixels) yalign 0.5+position_modifier
>and make position_modifier get multiplied by i (so for the third button transform will move it 100 pixels etc)
I just can't organize it in my head, maybe someone has any ideas

You release your masterwork and some people like it and it gets ten positive reviews.
On the same day an AJ Tilley game comes out and is a thousand times more popular.
What do you do with your life now?

Live

>>148030186
Post about it on 4chan.

>>148030186
>What do you do with your life now?
I'd probably stop being a bitch and realize quality and profitability aren't the same thing, and start considering whether there is a market for what I am selling in the first place.

>>148030146
wew, figured it out, carry on senpaitachi

>Start kickstarter for game
>Cheap tier also gives copy of the game
>Everyone interested supports kickstarter
>Get game greenlit on Steam
>No one buys it because everyone already gets a copy
>Barely anyone reviews it

Am I worrying too much?

>>148031574
if nobody likes good games should we all just quit

>>148032905
There are 11M people using Steam right at this moment and (almost) none of them have heard about your game yet. Make a good game and you'll be good

>>148032905
if you give a steam key with the KS reward, won't it still count for the daily purchase/download popularity?

>>148033152
From a pure mathematical point of view, yes, very much so. You would benefit from not putting effort into making something that won't sell/only you will like. There are other mediums and other userbases. EVNs are not your only option, they're just the cheapest in terms of audiovisual presentations of a story.

>>148032905
If you set your kickstarter to a sufficient amount to fund the game's creation, any sales afterwards are gravy, so it doesn't matter that much. In practicality there will always be sales afterwards because there will be people who missed the kickstarter, or who only buy finished products, or who hear about it because they see a friend playing it on steam, and so on.
>>148033540
I don't think this is well known, too many private algorithms at work. My guess would be that it does not count for the 'top seller' list, but if people with a free key PLAY it, it counts for a different set of internal popularity measurements.

>>148032905
Perfectly reasonable concern.

Has anyone had experience giving out steam keys for their products before? Is it a fairly straightforward process?

>>148036274
>paste steam key into email
>send email
What part of the process are you asking about?

>>148036750
Do you get an infinite number of steam keys that you can give out?

>>148036894
I'm not a steamworks dev but my best friend is. As far as what he's described it as you just go in and "print" however many codes you need (could be in the thousands if you wanted) and then you just do whatever you want with them, like email them to people or something. I'd get him in here but of course he's asleep.

>>148036894
yes

>>148037114
Sounds pretty easy, thanks.

>>148037114
is there an automatic system to it or does all have to be manually sent?

>>148037751
You request them from Steam. I personally had to send out each one, one-by-one. It was a very long and laborious process.

>>148036894
More or less. You request them in batches from Steam (you can have batches labeled as to their purpose, which may help you track them later), they send you a giant list in a text file, then you do whatever with them.

bumpity

>>148036274
>Has anyone had experience giving out steam keys for their products before?
I did that, for both reviewers/YouTubers and giveaway groups. Would not recommend giveaway groups.

>10 again
are you shitting me

>>148043152
/vg/ is too fast of a board for this thread.

>Second weekend in a row where I shitpost instead of working on my VN.

I literally feel like throwing myself out of a window.

>>148043584
We just live near the bottom of the catalog. It doesn't mean we don't belong here.

>>148043921
>not shitposting while you work
You're doing it wrong fampai.

Also throwing yourself out a window will make your work output even lower.

>Stay up 24 hours doing stupid shit, getting a little tired and completely exhausted
>Make tons of progress on my VN right before I crash
>No progress for the next week

What the fuck is wrong with me?

>>148044143
I know you are right.

whats a normal number of copies to sell for a steam sale?

>been making steady progress for the past two months every single day

:^D

>>148045580
Anyone can make progress every day. That doesn't mean it's good.

>>148045857
>Anyone can make progress every day.
I wish.

>>148044852
good luck, you corporate spy

>>148045857
keep telling yourself that as you play MMOs for 16 hours a day

>>148046295
Projecting.

>>148048339
What is that girl's name?

>>148048985
Priya, apparently

>>148048985
That's not a girl.

>>148049850
I'm pretty sure that's a girl.

>>148049649
Cute name. She looks Indian.

Teeeeenth paaaaage

>>148053007
Why bother trying to keep it alive?

>>148054667
to spite you

I'm having a lot more fun with my gameplay than I am my story. I feel I am doing visual novels wrong.

>>148056695
What's your gameplay?

>>148057116
It's a roguelike where you have to get your randomly generated character across a perilous desert.

>>148056695
Maybe you need to hire a writer

>>148058493
Sounds cool, pls don't let it die.

>>148058493
RA dev?

>>148058512
I am a writer, though I have more fun lately coding. There's something very calming about it.

>>148059339
The downside of having a unique VN concept.

>>148059339
>RA
Ok I looked through 4 pages of lsf wip sections, and it's not "rising angels" either, right?

>>148060895
actually you're just the only dev i can think of doing a roguelike. desert setting sounds cool though

> https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4s46vg/go_go_democratic_peoples_republic_of_korea_is/d572bw5

post vndevcore music

>>148058493
Why are you here and not in /agdg/?

>>148062943
>https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/4s46vg/go_go_democratic_peoples_republic_of_korea_is/d572bw5

> We were quite happy to work with them and show them test versions of the game.

That backpedaling, holy shit. They said they asked lawyers to make sure it fell under parody, as far as I'm concerned they were quite aware that they could step on Overdrive's toes but decided to go ahead anyway.

>>148064372
They're a bunch of assholes, no surprise there

>>148064601
>Dodger did a playthrough of Panzermadels
>Keeps advertising them on Co-optional Podcast, even did in the last one
They got some lucky advertising.

Did anyone hear about Winged Cloud having no plans to continue Sakura Fantasy, because the first chapter didn't sell as much as they hoped? They posted about it on their patreon.

>>148065317
There was much grousing on /u/

>>148065745
It's another strike against episodic vns.

>>148066313
I think it's more that the game took too much effort to make for Winged Cloud.

>>148066923
mostly, they're lazy
but yes, episodic is dangerous because developers use it to 'test the waters' and are very prone to canceling if the result isn't as awesome as they hoped

>>148066923
How? It wasn't any longer or asset heavy than their other games. Maybe Sakura Beach 2 just convinced them that sequels sell like shit. Sakura Fantasy wasn't a very good performer for Winged Cloud.

>>148066923
Are you sure you're thinking of the right game? There was no more effort put into Sakura Fantasy than any of their other regular VNs.

>>148067342
The other problem is the amount of time that had elapsed since Chapter 1 came out. People can lose interest and not remember where the story left off. Episodic game makers should take a note from Star Wars and include a brief summary of previous events.

>>148067732
They put slightly more effort into writing it. There was some semblance of the beginning of a story.

>>148067908
A star fell from the sky.
'Because it's important' justification x100.

They had absolutely no idea where they were going with it. You could literally do a short list of unresolved plot points and finish the thing in Chapter 2.

Find little sister.
Rematch slime monster.
Find star.
Message about mysteriousness of nature and preserve the environment.
Raelin is a true Knight.
Harem end.

>>148064832
>Dodger
What are some other (relatively) big people who review or do walkthroughs on VNs? This information is important.

>>148068693
Lost Pause

>>148068693
Research this shit yourself like everyone else you lazy fuck.

>>148069167
There's always the chance I've missed someone.

>>148069223
Why don't you contribute by putting names you do know down first then asking if you've missed any, instead of asking to be spoonfed?

>>148069515
Dude chill out they just asked a question.

>http://devgru-p.weebly.com/bunka-no-kenkyu.html
>cool idea for setting
>but then weeb shit everywhere

come on

why isn't anyone discussing the greatest evn release of our time?
https://vndb.org/v18280

>>148070213
Generic sells. Look at Sakura games. All their characters look exactly the same with mix and match skin, eye colors and hair types. They all have the same base. How many people buy those games? More of them than the ones buying any other awesome and unique EVN. People are easy to pander to. So why are you risking everything by making something unique and interesting when you can spend half the time and make another Sakura/Japanese highschool game?

>>148070440
>feminine sissy boy
Great!
>dreams only of becoming a glamorous T-girl
boo

>>148070937
Pride and fear of being a cringe hack I guess.

>>148070937
>other awesome and unique EVN.
like....?

>>148071339
His game, of course. The one that's not out but he's already preemptively blaming everyone else for not selling.

>>148071339
Exactly. Who the fuck knows.I'm sure some are out there. You know about Sakura games though, right? Of course you do.

>>148071440
Stop being stupid. I wasn't implying anything of the sort.

>>148071440
You idiot, they were talking about MY game.

>>148071339
Solstice, for one.

>>148071339
Black Sands

I know anime tiddies in EVNs sell. But what about memes in EVNs?

>>148072575
VA-11 HALL-A is doing pretty well.

>>148070937
>why be a jew and write crap to make money when you could make something unique and interesting that you will feel good about and could touch the hearts of others?
Gee I don't know.

And unique VNs can sell well, most cases where genuinely great and interesting evns have flopped is a case of failure to advertise it properly more than anything else. People can't buy your game if they don't know it exists.

>>148073640
>to make money
You answered your own question. Money makes the world go around. Happiness can't be had on an empty stomach.

>>148074009
If your goal is to make money then why are you making an evn? That's the real question desu senpai. If you're making a VN and you're serious about it, you've already decided to eschew traditional career paths in favor of following your dreams and doing what you love. Why stop halfway there?

>>148074307
>If your goal is to make money then why are you making an evn?

My goal is to make money and enjoy doing it. Funnily enough, I'm making one of those unique VNs that probably won't sell. Speaking hard truths and venting frustrations gets me through the long weeks. Especially when posting volume is low. I agree that unique EVNs can sell, but I think we can both agree that it's an uphill battle without serving your potential customers boobs on a platter or the usual tropes. That said, games like Cinders do give me some hope.

>>148075463
Really a lot of it is luck and knowing how to advertise. Too many genuinely good games fail because the creator thought they could rely on the quality alone and didn't generate adequate interest in it.

>>148075992
How do I generate adequate interest in it?

>>148078345
Have some kind of blog or website with regular updates of projects. Nice, pretty, shiny art will also get people's attention as well, so if you have it, flaunt it. Be smart with how you word the synopsis of the game, it's the "hook" and what most people will use to decide if they're interested in your game, so you need to make it count.

And most importantly lots and lots of lowkey shilling. People shit on shills all the time but it's actually pretty important as far as getting the info out there that your game exists and might be good. You just can't be too obvious about it.

>>148078879
Also don't talk about a great project, get people interested, and go radio silent for two years and expect people to still remember or care when it's finished.

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Test render / paint over. Not sure if I'm happy with it but oh well.

>>148079263
I want to jizz all over your backgrounds.

>>148079263
I like your stuff, Jake.

>>148079263
This is so pretty.

;_;

>>148079358
You are very generous.

>>148080440
>>148082597
Thanks :) Will probably upload the finished day time version today. Just gonna wait to see whether client is okay w/ mentioning the project it's for so I don't have to edit lots of descriptions.

>>148084135
<3

ding

I finished my visual novel and put it on itch.io.

>>148090895
Why don't you just say the name? It's like you are so afraid of being called a shill you won't even share a finished project.

>>148091250
Nah, I'm not afraid of being called a shill, it's free anyway, it's just not very good. But I'll share it anyway.

https://marillon.itch.io/strawberry-jam

It's my first VN and I did everything myself.

>>148091819
anon your sprites are qt

>>148091819
>windows only
O-oh.

>>148091819
Thanks for the link, will give it a try. :)

>>148092210
I could try to make a mac/linux copy if you want. I just can't test it to make sure it will work.

>>148092349
What's it made with? Ren'py you can run with the sdk on linux, and I think tyranobuilder runs with wine.

>>148092479
I made it with Ren'py.

>>148092210
I tried adding a linux and mac version. Let me know if there are problems.

>>148092031
>>148092317
Thank you both.

>>148092317
>>148091819
So I finished it. It was cute, creepy and pretty surreal. I think that was intention, so neat I suppose. :)

Not sure what it was trying to say, if anything though. :P

>>148093335
Thank you for playing and for your nice comments, I appreciate it.

>>148091819
looks like a 12 year old made it

>>148091819
I'll check it out probably tomorrow. Thanks for uploading it.

>>148094217
Thanks. I think it's important to remain young at heart.

>>148091819
Your sprites are charming.

What is your plan going forward now that you've created your first project?

>>148094462
Thank you. After this I'll take a little break, but soon I'll be working on a somewhat larger project, which will be longer and have at least somewhat better art and music. I hope to release it by the end of the year but it's hard to say right now.

>having to write a bunch of tame sol shit so that you dont look like a retard by immediately launching into your cuh-razy real plot

>>148091819
are you a cute girl you little lesbo im gonna lick your taco til it loses its epidermis

>>148095721
>im gonna lick your taco til it loses its epidermis
ahh yes, the mating call of the wild lesbian

>>148095721
>>148096358
I'm scared.

>>148096743
So are the rest of us.

>>148095560
I like writing about my characters in these normal situations. Also, it's only lame if you make it that way.

>>148091819
I'm downloading it now because I'm in the beginning stages of my first VN and I want to see other people's first completed VN so I have a rough benchmark.
It's just going to takes ages because my internet plan got changed to a capped one. I'm looking forward to playing it, regardless of quality.

>>148099428
Thank you, though I'm sure there are people with better first VNs than mine.

>>148100186
There is no better. Just different. To one person, your VN might be the answer to all their life's questions. To another, it might look childish.

>>148100906
>all their life's questions

someone was really wondering whether you could hook up six girls in a circle with tubes running from mouth to anus to create a large hadron collider circuit of feces?

>>148102435
What VN does that happen in? Are you making one like this? Please respond.

>>148102435
That's the thing. You never know. Maybe they wake up each day thinking about how seeing such subject matter in a VN would make their life's better in so many ways. What if there is someone out there just waiting for your VN to turn their life around?

>>148102557
>someone out there just waiting for your VN to turn their life around
ayy they'll be waiting for a long time

>>148103958
Not as log as I've waited for someone to bump the thread.

>>148106704
just give up broski, it was stillborn

d e p r e s s i o n

s u i c i d e

>thought I had managed to escape from one super slow scummy artist to a slightly less scummy artist
>new artist hasn't gotten back to me in days despite being online on social media
The prospect of having to crawl back to my first one makes me want to cry.

>>148113278
I've got something I could wipe those tears away with, anon.

>>148113278
I have found out why there are so many flake artists around.
Basically, WC dev cursed every artist who is or will be working for EVNs, and now almost all their diligence and speed are transfered to Wanaca as soon as they pick up the stylus. That means all artists with average diligence/speed are doomed to flake out, only those with A++ stats in both succeed.
Don't ask me how I know this, the truth cost too much.

>>148113324
Thanks but no thanks, I'll keep drowning in my tears.

>>148113612
anon don't make me lose hope at a time like this
i'll either end myself or my project
perhaps both
or i'll kidnap wanaca

>>148113612
Who is Wanaca?

Gonna sleep, you faggots better not let the thread die again.

Moo~

>>148118494
Moove over

>>148118494
we RENT now?

k i l l

>>148122978
c h i l l

Reading this thread upon waking is the pinnacle of depression.

>>148124289
Only because you're not working on your game anon.

>VN is highly first person. You feel like you're the main character, and nothing takes you out of that feeling. You are able to name the protagonist. The protagonist has little story to allow for more self insertion.

>VN is told in a way where you don't always feel like you're the main character. It might show scenes with a narrator, or even other characters besides the main character. The protagonist is a character that has been named and has a history.

Choose one.

>>148125051
I am not worthy to work on a game anon. I am not even worthy to post in this thread. I only wish to bask in the glory that is this thread so that I might take some of the talent from here and one day in the far far future be able to create something resembling a VN.

>>148125191
It's too exhausting for me to write a self insert protag. I like to let my characters tell me the story.

I am going to play every free VN on itch.io (231 of them). Any recommendations or should I just get to it?

>>148125518
Tough luck. Everyone's too paranoid to post here. The few who have the guts to post are either secure with what they're doing or amateurs who have no shame or worries on positing their crud.

Just work on it already.

>>148125191
Self inserting is only good in 100% dating sims. If you want to have a plot, ready the MC's personality.

>>148125657
I can't seem to pick a story to work on. Every time I pick one I want to change it a few days later to something completely different. Go ahead and laugh anon. I'll never make it.

>>148125191
Second, but it would depend how the narration is - you usually shouldn't need it unless it's at the start to set events up.

I'd like to play a character that has something to add rather than a self-insert with, often bland, choices. Seeing as you can have choices all the same with an actual personality to your protagonist, you can usually have choices that reflect that and develop that character over time - or, more or less, show us what kind of character they are, anyway.

Keep self-insert for things that really don't care about their plot, like eroge or dating.

>>148125780
I will only laugh at you if you give up on yourself, anon. Get yourself together and focus.

>>148125191
I really don't like switching the PoV in VNs, I find it much more awkward than regular novels. So I always have a named protagonist with a history, but never leave their PoV so I can see how one might feel like "you are the MC."

>>148125743
This. I simply don't see how can you do anything of interest in a VN with a full self-insert dildo MC. Either you let the player choose every little detail and end up with a meaningless and shallow plot to accomodate every possible choice (Skyrim lol), or you make every choice irrelevant beyond a line or two of flavor text and railroad the shit out of them.

>>148064372
>agreed to make some changes to avoid stepping on too many toes. Nothing too major, mostly related to the GUI and using "Go! Go!" in the title.

>>148125780
Pick an idea and just roll with it - it's gonna be shit, but it'll be your shit and you'll be better off for producing that shit. I like to point people to the nanowrimo thought, which sitting down and writing a novel in a month. Majority are bad ideas, but you only get invested half way through them, you only really come to terms with what your characters are capable of later on. So sit the fuck down and write your current idea out and don't move on at all, you'll come to love your creation. And don't worry about art for your first vn, it should be practice only. Don't worry how your writing is doing - because we all make the mistake of comparing it to what we've seen and thinking it should at least be on that level, well it won't man.

Thanks for the replies. It looks like named protagonist it is. Now if only I could think of something interesting to make it about.

>>148126315
Yeah my writing is shit and art takes me longer than most probably. I guess I should make a few small ones first.

Strawberry Jam dev, thank you for that experience.

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>>148125191
What about a first person VN where you can influence the character's decisions, but it still feels like they are their own person?

I find that Jap VNs tend to do this a lot better than eVNs with shit like Shirou and Takeru.

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NEVERMIND ARTIST REPLIED
EVERYTHING GONNA BE OKAY

>>148128634
who the fuck eats yoghurt like that

>>148128891
me

>>148129048
whore

>>148129295
wow get a load of this slut-shamer

>>148129357
don't oppress me, slut-shamer-shamer

>>148125191
Play more RPGs for research. It is possible to let the player identify strongly with the main character and give them a lot of options while also giving the protagonist a backstory and encouraging the player to roleplay as the character.

>>148130829
I can't understand why so many people seem to think self insert means no personality or backstory. Players often insert as people they WANT to be or identify with, not only as characters who are husks meant for them to project onto.

>>148132959
Faaat

>>148133229
The body mostly looks cuddly and fun to squeeze, the arms are a bit more distressing

>>148132959
would if she brews me some motivation elixirs

>>148132959
What political statement are you trying to make? Or are you just into big chicks?

>>148133946
That's not mine m8, it was from some KS or something. Probably just fetishes.

>>148134104
Can't be fetishism. Not with that face.

>>148134267
They just like Milfs, that's all. Nasty fetish really.

Here's the Reach for the Stars-A Yuri Visual Novel breakdown of costs.

>700 - CG's
>1200 - Background Art
>300 - Music
>180+ - KS Fees

Stretch goals
>2800 - Mara will have a route
>3200 - If I can reach 3200 it means I can add more CG's. As you can see 700 means 14 CG's (basing this off my artist's prices).
>4400 - More backgrounds for the game.
>5500 - After stories and love scenes... The after stories will take place when they are grown up (age 18-21)
>8000 - Partial voice acting!

They raised $8,024, so they have no margin for error. If their artists flake or they underestimated something, then obviously something has to go.

>>148134907
Seems like it would be easy to cut back on what partial voice acting means if they didn't specify.

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>>148134907
>when they are grown up (age 18-21)

>>148134907
$50 each cg, hm. Wonder what the bg art is...

>>148134907
>300 - Music
wew

>>148136578
wow, 50 bucks per CG is super cheap for most artists.

What are some of the best games on itch.io for free? I downloaded around 20 so far.

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>>148079263
>>148087561
Oh, and here's the finished day time version of this BG. Was pretty fun to make overall.

>>148137435
will you make me some bg for free bro

>>148136789
I wonder what the quality will be...

>>148137769
Some of them look pretty awesome.

>>148137948
Unless the artist starts to slack off, which can definitely happen. Or the artist goes MIA and has to be replaced.

>>148137948
keked when i looked. $50 for those, wowo what a money sink.

>>148138263
post some

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>>148139054
>ugly-ass tree takes up half the frame
wew

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>white text on pale blue BG
why

>>148140436
I'd say that's 50 dollar quality easily. Colors are alright, lines are pretty good. It's easy on the eyes. The tree is huge, but for 50 dollars it isn't a killer.

>>148137721
You can use my two CC BGs if you like. They're old and totally unrelated to each other too! https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=24885

>>148140637
yeah it's not that bad save for the tree

>>148140637
there is literally no detail going on in most of the artists backgrounds. The character is pretty ugly when colored in here compared to their sketches/lineart. Honestly, this is pretty bad for 50 bucks man.

>>148140767
>tfw I can't use the majority of free bg's if I wanted to because they're mostly all modern or school themed

>>148143098
Show us an artist you think is better for the same price or less.

>>148143486
Because I have on hand that kind of info. Pretty sure if you wanted to you'd just read the first forum page on dA to find that info. As it stands, that bg work is something people would tack on for free, counting it as a "simple bg". The foliage is literally a brush to get that exact effect - the tree is not at all impressive, an amateur could produce the same result. The only redeeming quality is the window border and the character linework.

>>148143909
>The only redeeming quality is the window border and the character linework.

Which comes with the BG for 50 bucks. That price is bretty good for what you get.

>>148144536
Maybe if you only use the lemma forums.

>>148146396
I think I know now why people here complain so much about artists.

>>148127434
Your welcome. Thank you for playing.

>>148146860
playing with your clit, you little minx

>>148146940
>it's the sexual predator again
Can I call the police?

>>148147020
i don't know, can you?

>develops tendonitis from too much computer use
Well, I have an excuse for not making progress for a while. How about you?

>>148150257
>How about you?
I take care of my health, don't overwork, have comfortable workplace and wrist position, take breaks from time to time, work out.

>>148150257
My tooth hurts, I had to go OUTSIDE (right into the SUNLIGHT) and even after all this torture I still made some progress.

>>148125609
>>148137432
Mine.

>>148150853
So, is your game done?

>>148151361
No. Why would you assume it is?

>>148151292
Which one is it? When I pick all the ones that look good to me, I'll let you know if yours made the cut or not.

>>148152089
The one posted in this thread.

>>148151482
Clearly, working yourself to injury is a more productive strategy. Take fewer breaks.

>>148152342
You mean the strawberry one? I already played it.

>>148152548
Thanks m8.

>>148152672
You're welcome, but you already told me thanks when I posted earlier. If you could make it into a full fledged VN that would be great.

oyasumi

>google invert mouse
>only guides on how to invert a mouse
>google invert mouse dev
>same thing

talk about bad luck with studio names

>>148151093
You think that's bad? I had to deal with family members and assorted normalfags these last days. Every hour or so they want something from you, like fucking mentally handicapped kids, and you can't even tell them to fuck off and let you work because 'that would be rude'.

>>148157728
>live alone, haven't had to deal with that kind of thing in years
feels good

>>148157823
Me too, but a few times a year I'm expected to meet them. Fucking nightmare.

>>148157913
>but a few times a year I'm expected to meet them.

You're a good person.

>>148158020
I mean unless you troll on 4chan or something. Then you aren't.

>>148158020
Dealing with people you don't care about because it's expected of you and not because it's necessary doesn't make you a good person, it makes you an idiot.

>>148158487
It's complicated. Showing yourself to those who love you is being a good person. If they don't like you then maybe not. Being a recluse and hiding from your family is not what I would consider being a good person.

Wow, page 10 already?

RESURRECTION

>>148162885
I bet it was hard.

>https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=39344

pytom knows jiro is a scammer how is he not banned?

>>148163763
storytime?

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>>148163763
Here's the link mentioned: https://twitter.com/Doomfest/status/728071695874064384

EVN devs, please consider making nameable protagonists if it isn't too much trouble.

>>148140589
This better have a high contrast mode, or insta-refund.

>>148168162
Why?

>>148168327

Why not?

>>148168392
But why?

>>148168481

Because I can't enjoy a story unless I can properly insert myself into it. I make exceptions when the story is good enough but I prefer being able to name the protagonist.

>>148168162
Not everyone wants a self insert MC.

>>148168686
Nameable protagonists means no one being able to give you a proper nickname or refer to you in voice-acted dialog, all so you can call yourself Butthole McTrump

>>148168789

I know hence the "if it isn't too much trouble."

>>148168686
That's pretty stupid, just so you know.

>>148168686
This is an example of inessential feedback that should be ignored.

>>148168854
It is too much trouble, unless people are making a blank slate in a dating sim. It's easier to advertise a game if it has concrete characters with set names.

>>148169309
This. It's hard for a story to have much depth if the protagonist is a complete blank slate. Makes all interactions very onesided.

>>148169571
But it makes it easier for me to imagine myself getting the guy.

>>148169571
But it means you can write all sorts of possible interactions at every point!

A Bunny Girl's Guide - World Domination
Am I being too harsh or is the writing not very good at all?

>>148175412
Oh, it was a 15 minute demo.

>>148175412
nevah hoid of it

>>148173745
Are you the anon playing all the free VNs on itchio?

>>148178709
No, I'm that anon.

Speaking of free itch.io VNs, CupidVN_1.01 has a virus, so beware if you download it.

>>148179053
Is it the false positive that Ren'py games usually get?

If you want that vn, I'd suggest downloading it from Steam.

>>148179486
I don't think it's a false positive considering that it's ramnit.L which is a real trojan.

>>148179615
Even false positives can show up as something the antivirus incorrectly diagnoses.

>>148179787
I guess it could be, but as it's the only one out of 100+ downloads, I'd rather not chance it.

Strawberry Dev, upload the windows version on Mediafire or something.
I need it for reasons that are too complicated to explain while I'm busy making progress on my own shit.

>>148182346
Why don't you just go download the version from itch.io instead of hassling the dev to do stuff for just you? Also, you seem very self-entitled. Disgusting.

>>148182346
Who the fuck are you?

>>148182346
What's wrong with the itch.io download?

>>148125191
>>148126071
This is one of the problems I'm facing. I'm writing a first person narration story from the protag's PoV, but it's really limiting. For example I can't draw attention to important things that I don't want him to notice specifically, or I can't write scenes without him in it without switching PoVs constantly or going into 3rd person narration, which gets confusing when done constantly.

To be honest I'm starting to think it's easier just to write like a regular novel and throw art on top of it. Don't some VNs do this?

>>148183803
I feel like decision trees become kinda strange if you do that kind of thing. There are certainly exceptions to all the rules.

I mean, there are certainly VNs that stick with a protag mostly and cut to another PoV a couple of times and it doesn't kill the VN.

>>148182346
I mean, I don't mind doing it if you're having an issue and aren't able to download it from itch.io, but I need some kind of reason first.

>Artist finally comes back
>I don't feel like touching any code or script
>Still continuing work with another /evn/ anon on a new, smaller project.

What to do senpai?

What to do senpai?

>>148182346
Instead of trying to be funny about it, explain why you need it on a different host. You're just being irritating.

>>148183803
>To be honest I'm starting to think it's easier just to write like a regular novel and throw art on top of it. Don't some VNs do this?
You can get away with that if you're doing an NVL VN.

>>148150257
>not taking preventive measures to make sure that your assets aka body and health is taken cared of
You have no one else to blame but yourself.

I use unpopular keypads to make sure that I don't stress myself out on using consecutive shortcuts on the keyboard. I use a trackball to avoid carpal tunnel. I take breaks and work out to get the blood going.

If you want to do something, you'll find a way to do it. If you don't want to do something, you'll start making excuses. Just work already damn it.

>>148168686
There's always pokemon, anon.

>>148184701
>I mean, there are certainly VNs that stick with a protag mostly and cut to another PoV a couple of times and it doesn't kill the VN.
Like?

>>148186673
What's an NVL VN?

>>148179948
Steam version is clean, itch and mediafire are infected, I found out the hard way.

Should I run a full anti-virus scan before ever releasing a game into the webs?

>>148191762
Fate/Stay Night does that. It is also an NVL VN (https://vndb.org/g43)

zenbu zenbu zenbu zenbu

>>148193120
Of course.

>>148193120
No but some dumbass is still going to claim it has a virus.

>>148192995
How the heck did that happen? Why is the Steam version the only clean version?

>>148194704
>muh false positives
I quintuple-dog dare you to download and run http://www.mediafire.com/download/sbsy1cjbca8b17z/CupidVN_1.01-all.zip
preferably on the PC you keep your project on :^)

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>>148194562

>>148195067
version on steam is newer apparently

How to avoid giving your game a long title?

>>148197810
Find two or three words that sound good and put them together (ex. most VN titles.)

>>148197810
Just make it short and easy to remember. Think Sakura Spirit and Juniper's Knot.

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Next BG involves a lot of nature so I tried making a pine tree

>>148199591
Pretty

>>148195794
Done. :^) Now what?

>>148204067
Run.

>>148197810
Rip someone's else title and claim it's an unauthorised parody.
Try Cuck's Last Reward or Penis Time Dilemma

>>148207346
>HEY, COME ON OVER AND MAKE SOME MONEY WITH RAAAAAPEY TAXI!
>ARE YOU READY? HEERE WE GO!
>NO NO NO NO NO!

Really though, I would like to make a Crazy Taxi dating sim one day. I only have a vague idea of how I'd do it but maybe one day I can make my dream happen.

Should I drop the rounded rectangles for a more functional bootstrap-ish UI?

>>148207346
>Cuck's Last Reward
This shit writes itself

>>148209128
That is one long torso.

>>148168306
I didn't even realise it had text on it until I saw this, the fuck? Why.

>>148197810
Or just shorten the long title... check anime for a reference since they always do it.

>>148216749
This. Like Watamote.

Haha

>>148219867
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>>148221808
called the police

>>148222540
p-pls no

>>148224574
Satan was exiled from Heaven for being cuter than God?

>>148224574
Is this an SMT kind of deal where Lucifer likes to pretend to be the little girl?

>>148224574
>April 2017
I'll be dead by then

>>148227943
just like this dumbass thread full of losers

>>148231556
What did you say to me?

>>148234396
I said you're a loser and your face is all weird, not to mention that shit hairstyle.

>>148235383
Joke's on you, I'm bald.

>>148236656
I'm very sorry.

>>148224574
Apparently this is yuri.

>>148236974
and a dungeon crawler. And a recettear-like store management game. I'm not holding my breath.

>>148238482
Recettear was also a dungeon crawler. So wouldn't that just make it like recettear?

>>148238482
And this is their first project to boot.
I smell failure.

>>148240691
basically this, a subpar clone

>>148224574
that sprite is twice as nice as the others in the game. i am dissapoint.

>>148242790
their description gives the impression they had different artists for everything

> spend an hour trying to figure out why the game won't translate
> turns out I was missing a space

jfc

>>148248235
>that nose

>>148249848
My inner nerd likes this one.

>>148249848
Looks neato.

>>148249848
I dig the aesthetic but that would irritate my eyes.
>>148249671
Can't unsee. Looks like flaccid dick and balls.

>>148252428
>Can't unsee. Looks like flaccid dick and balls.
You must have a tiny cock.

>>148253062
You'd like to see, wouldn't you.

>>148253183
Only if you're in good shape, have a handsome face and personality.

>>148254059
What if I'm not a boy?

>>148254320
That's even better.

What a boring thread.

>>148255196
What a beautiful tomorrow.

liver

>>148258564
onions?

Aren't there any kikestarters we can laugh at?

>>148260350
We could laugh at you instead.