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>>147872309

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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Made first; use this in the mean time >>147914051
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>>147914030
You know that you won't get anything for posting this same fucking dumb pic so many times, right?
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>>147914146
No.
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>>147913196
I had no fucking idea.
I've been using one with an AGS for the past couple days, am I cancer?
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>>147914238

I think it was patched in the latest update.
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>>147914276
It's definitely not, I just checked.
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>>147914146
>this one was made first and is better formed
>hey lol, use mine instead XD
off yourself
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>>147914238
if you can get wins with a build then that build is cancer, so yes

the AGS' rolling attack was patched to no longer be thrust so I guess no more '''cancerous''' leo ring assisted counter damage now

it's ok
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seems like 35-40 pyro returns are actually the worst, i thought it'd be like int and faith where you gets loads of returns at the end

otherwise returns are mostly linear but decreasing
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Every roll after the third roll before your stamina starts regenerating should start costing double stamina
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>open a das2 pvp stream to get some cheap laughs
>it's an arena duel with both players trying to wait out the timer once they get a hit on the opponent

Holy shit this is cancerous as fuck.
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Is there any way to actually land Ricard's Rapier WA in pvp? It doesn't have hyper armor on it's startup or during the attack (understandable I guess), but the fact that you character has to stare at the sword to mentally prepare himself for the rest of the attack makes it nigh impossible to land. It has huge damage potential with the right buffs, but it just can never hit anyone. Is there any attack that it combos out from, or can the startup frames be cancelled or shortened so he doesn't just stand there for eight years?
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>>147914471
whats the 4th column of data? i thought it was "m" from a linear function y=mx+b
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>>147914997
yes, it is m
ie the gradient, the fact that 'm' is decreasing shows that the returns are getting worse for each 5 points you put into int and faith
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>>147914940
Ricard's is and has always been a very damaging nuke that only goes off 2% of the time.
You can get people with luck or high end mindgames, but in the the overwhelming majority of cases it'll just be a shiny golden rapier.
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>tfw terrified of destroying my ds3 code as I try to scratch at the silver shit so I can see what it is
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24att for 4 slots is bullshit

especially when darkmoon ring is a covenant reward AND you're already pushed hard for ring slots
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>>147915256
I think you could get a refund in that case.
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>>147914708
There's a timer in the arena?
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>>147915328
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>>147915428

Yeah and the tryhards are switching to the ring that halves your HP in the last seconds of the fight.
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>often get into a guy called Bear Jew's FC
>every single fucking time there's at least one person trying kill the host or otherwise fuck everything up
Is he a streamer or something?
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>>147915434
>level ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE dedicated pyro build still can't fit more than 4 slots
was this supposed to make me feel better?
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>>147915540
Yes.
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>>147845576
Anything?
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How much AR *should* the FuGS have, given it's incredible weight and stamina consumption?
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>>147845576
Looks like a good looking native South American with green eyes for some reason.
Bit default-facey, and personally not my taste, but it looks good.
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Reposting from the other thread.

Found this guy in saved randomized fashionsouls I was going through.

Somebody recommended a spear+mace combo to go with it, but I also want to make a dark magic build.

Is there any way to make Pilgrim's Spontoon + Mace of the Insolent viable?
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post fASShion
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>>147916024
>>147848713
Anon said he was gonna share, lets just hope he delivers
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>>147916061
at LEAST 650 at 50str
profained can get to 600 and has a better moveset on top of what you just mentioned
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>>147916061
700 at 50STR when 1 handing, 740-760 when 2 handing. Hell, Yhorm's has only A scaling and gains way more damage when 2 handing, Fume has S and gains notably less damage
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>>147916061
320 base
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>>147916196
kill urself vermin
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Post Tank builds.
Need ideas please.
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cron0mEclipse/
This guy just tried to parry my attacks and chugged divine blessings for a good ten minutes until I just gave up, stood still and he killed me.
I'm speechless, why would he even do this?
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>>147916320
>Yhorm's has only A scaling and gains way more damage when 2 handing, Fume has S and gains notably less damage
because yhorms base damage is much higher and scaling is a function of base damage
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>>147916524
No, thank you.
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>>147916556
99 everything
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>>147916601
Still, the scaling damage FUGS gets is very underwhelming
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DUDE LET ME DRAIN ALL YOUR STAMINA BAR WITH DODGING BECAUSE MY ATTACKS LAST FOR TEN MNUTES, GOOD NOW YOU CAN'T HIT BACK WITHOUT BEING PUNISHED BECAUSE MY RECOVERY TIME IS SHORTER THAN YOUR STAMINA REFILL

OH AND MY BIG SWORD HAS A MAGIC HITBOX AND WILL MAKE YOU STAGGER FOR TWELVE HOURS LMAO

THIS IS LEGIT DIFFICULTY LMAO DUDE HOW ABOUT WE MAKE A BOSS THAT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO ATTACK AT ALL
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>>147916673
because they nerfed the base by such a huge amount

>>147916196
black leather gives a better ass and even fits the colour scheme better
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>>147916707
LOL
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>>147916818

I was baiting for this exact response.
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Will Lifedrain Patch still cast if I have no souls on me?
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>>147916572
that's why i'm carrying a CE'd weapon with 11013 on it all the time now
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>>147916790
>because they nerfed the base by such a huge amount

I know...fucking jipjaps and their hate for ultras
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>>147916601
They can design a weapon's scaling so that you get a grand total of 40 ar going from base strength to 50, and then 120 AR from 50 to 60.

>>147916303
Profaned has split damage which explains the AR, but what exactly makes its moveset better than the FUGS?

>>147916320
What about the fact that the weapon can be buffed? If you put a resin on that 740 AR, you're looking at 1.4k counter hits

>>147916371
This is acceptable considering it can be buffed.


Personally, I think they should reduce the base damage to 250 but increase the strength scaling of the weapon so that the AR be capped at exactly 665
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>>147916790
I think the chain mail ass stands out more.

>>147916846
You're welcome. Please enjoy the video, but you could have just asked. I would have posted it happily.
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>>147916950
>Profaned has split damage
no it doesn't
fire buff applies on top of 600 pure physical AR
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>>147916818
LOL LOOK AT MY SL 947 CHARACTER EZ DUDE JUST GRIND AND MINMAX LIKE AN AUTIST

EZ NOW LET ME STROKE MY OWN DICK AND SWALLOW MY CUM BY POSTING THAT WEBM I MADE TO SHOW EVERYONE HOW MUCH OF A FAGGOT I AM

EZ GIT GUD AMIRITE
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>>147917012
The added fire damage isn't physical.

I'm 99.9% sure it's fire damage.
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>>147917036
stop responding to yourself lucifer
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>>147916950
>Profaned has split damage which explains the AR
nope
600 pure phys at 27/40 2handed

>but what exactly makes its moveset better than the FUGS?
faster 2hand r1s that are also horizontal instead of vertical
pokes actually do thrust damage
WA might be faster as well and pretty sure it uses much less stam
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>>147917056
it's 600pure ohys with the resin on top, you mook
hardly split damage
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>>147917036
Wow, he really rekt your anus, huh?

I never grinded at all on that character BTW, I just beat the base game then when into the DLCs. I even used the agape ring to keep from leveling too high.

>>147917095
wasn't me, kiddo.
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>get summoned into a fightclub
>literally every single person has 2kat
>host is a memequeen who keeps kicking people into the arena and throwing bombs
never black crystal'd so fast in my life
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>>147917509
>he STILL has problems with 2kat
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>>147917125
FUGS is an absolute stamina hog

takes more stamina to swing that thing than anything else in the game.

Needs better block statistics imo

70 stability + 80% all block when
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>>147917509
If you can outrange them just poke the constant retarded WA spamming.
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>>147917578
i'd rather not take the chance of fighting 3 2kat fags in a row with a host who thinks they're the funniest shit in the world
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>>147916142
There's always a way.
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>>147917223
>god-king Lucifer
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>>147917509
hosts have bullied me for the last time
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>>147917757
Welcome to /dsg/, friend.
Just ignore him or pretend he's anonymous, he's not that big of a twat, surprisingly enough.
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>>147917870
put your trip back on
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>tfw cant use FUGS on SL1
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>>147917781
Webm looks like shit and barely fits on the screen if I expand it instead of opening it on a new tab.
Keep the bitrate as it is and try making them 480p for that length or 720p for shorter ones.
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show me ya doodles
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>>147917998
can't change the res on a cropped webm senpai
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>>147918054
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>>147918089
I mean when you make more in the future.
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Any goodlooking male hexer armor?
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>>147918167
i CANNOT choose the resolution when i'm cropping a video to make a webm
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>>147918161
3/4
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>ugs users versus bows
this is like a top tier bullying
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>>147918254
Consider using different software.
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>>147918282
Djura is on the back of this one, but I don't like it enough to post
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>defeat shitter invader
>sheathe sword on back via rp meta weapons
>slow walk away as their corpse disintegrates into nothingness

feels good
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it's probably inappropriate to ask here, what do you use to record videos? i tried using OBS and made 3 videos with it and the quality is terrible in all of them. i found a little guide and tweaked some settings, but the quality is still terrible and if i try to improve it, my CPU usage becomes too high
i'm not very bright
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>>147918248
grave warden
pale shade
dragonscale but with the blindfold mask
workset set but with the thrall hood
prayer set
pyromancer set
jailer
sorc
court sorc
cornyx
sunset but with blindfold mask
leonhard
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>>147918516
i use shadowplay
it has a retroactive capture option that records the previous X minutes

much better than recording everything and filling your HDD with uneventful footage
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>>147918516
Decrease the resolution or increase the bitrate.
Performance for recording will be more or less the same regardless of software used unless you're on an Nvidia card and can use Shadowplay.
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>>147917870
>he's not that big of a twat
Lucifer pls go. I hear Warframe had an update, go bother their general instead.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4rzlgt/testing_vitality_armour_and_rings_follow_up/
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>>147918517
Thanks for the suggestions.
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>>147918501
>defeat anyone
>throw dung pie
>patches squat
hatemail 100% guaranteed or your money back
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>>147919181
Not trying to get hate mail, just look cool desu
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>>147918054
>>147918161
>>147918282

Don't have any, but your style is very cute.
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alright boys

With a bleed resin, 2h this bitch or just punch him to death?
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>>147919350
punching is better, procs it faster.
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>meming retard thinks he's hot shit with his greatshield only build
>put some carthus rogue on my claws
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>>147919350
You better punch him to death m8.

Also to that anon that suggested deserter, thanks, it looks better for my hollow guy.
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>>147919403
Well it felt better.

Nothing cooler than punching a giant crocodile dog to death desu.

I wish my character was male
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>>147919350
2 2hand r2s will net you a riposte
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>>147918606
>>147918730
thank you. i do have Nvidia card so Shadowplay is probably a better option for me. i'm not too worried about extra footage though, since i only record boss fights. it's probably wrong to shill your youtube channel here too, but whatever, have this potato pontiff with panic attack as thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zefIm9HQ45M

>>147919350
charged R2 on the head should stagger him
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wew they buffed demon fists quite a bit

got 450 AR and im not done with the build yet
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Friendly reminder to all UGW users to offhand a caestus and duel wield them for added RP effectiveness

>>147919403
>>147919504
>>147919592

<tfw he's been dead for almost 3 minutes

I just punched him and he bled out in three L1-L1 combos kek
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>>147919592
2x 2hand r1s*
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>>147918089
You can crop it in another editor like Shortcut.

That's what I do since I have a 16:10 monitor but DaS3 only supports 16:9.
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>>147919685
So was there another patch of something?
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Hail Kaathe or Mouring Ciaran for a watchdog cosplay?
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>>147919685
>>147919751
450 AR at what stats?

mugen says they cap at 430 even with 40/40/40/40
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>>147919865
i mean you're gonna get summoned maybe once per hour anyway so do whatever's more fun
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>>147919685
it's 445 on 40 STR from what i remember, and that's split damage
although generally it hits as hard as buffed quality caestus
if only it had hyperarmor on entire moveset
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Finally beat dancer solo att SL 20 after a billion fucking attempts. Had to do it unembered too since I used all mine on previous attempts. Carthus rouge carried hard.

Never doing this shit agaij, next time I make a twink I'm muling, fuck it.
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>>147920192
it really isn't that bad with a bleed weapon, anon
osierus is easier though
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>>147919956
29 str 31 int and 31 faith
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>>147914513
Agree.
Knights constantly rolling around just looks stupid.
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There is something very relaxing about the first encounter with Solaire. The ambience and the view of that location and Solaires voice all fit perfectly together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7a4AOOp_FA
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>>147920119
>opponent has ~600 HP
>in a fight club
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>>147920262
2handing?
post image
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>>147920332
I was just invaded by that nigga on a dried finger run
Though the amount of retards running with 27 vig or less is hilarious.
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>>147920014
Recently, half of the time I dropped a red sign on SL30 I got summon through watchdog. Even if that fails I can still invade.
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>>147920393
Oh, I remember seeing a /dsg/ fight club down there last night, so I assumed that was it.
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>>147920252
I used a +2 raw astora with rouge, the most annoying part is running out of stamina when you're just a few swings from proccing the bleed
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>>147920332
You have no idea dude. A fucking ton of people don't even care about vigor.
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>>147916950
>FUGS can be buffed.

If i apply blessed weapon and deep protection it barely surpasses Yhorm's AR...which can surpass FUGS again by simply using warcry. I say give it more AR, 700 when 1handing at 50 STR but make it unbuffable
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>>147920579
Anti end fags are just as bad
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>>147920671
To be honest you don't really need that much end unless you're using a heavy weapon.
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>>147920393
>run around on hilariously unoptimised Lothric K***ht cosplay build
>get invaded at SL ~105
>poke invader once
>do 75% of their health in one poke
I didn't even have Leo ring on.
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lol
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>>147920346
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Anyone done something like this for DS3 ?
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>>147920752
If you wana run out and get killed by the guy who has more end too
Unless your stacking grass crest and chloranthy or the weapon is extremely cheap like caestus end is important
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>>147920780
offline
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>>147920945

Who plays offline on PC?
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>>147920803
>best weapon is a longsword
Shame DS1 was the only game with shit longswords.
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>>147920780
tons of people just alt +f4'd out of the game the second they saw how badly it was ported and ran
i know i did
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what's the worst weapon in DaS3?
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>>147920910
Instead you should just learn stamina management.
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>>147921145
broken straight sword
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>>147921075

Yeah that's why no one used the BSS.
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>>147920803
>Estoc A+
Has estoc been pretty much the uncontested best weapon in ALL souls games? it weakest point is 1 thanks to poise but it was still good.
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>>147921145
Broken Straight Sword
Wooden Great Hammer and Soldering Iron give it a run for it's money though
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>>147920910
i would rather have 30% rolls than more than 20 end on fast weapon
anything smaller than greatswords is perfectly functional at that mark
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>>147920780
Where do you get these?
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>>147921341
Steam achievements click "view global achievement stats"
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>>147921292
yeah
even bb had its own estoc that is also a best pvp weapon in the entire game
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>>147921128
>did this
>after a year or so i thought i'd try again
>best decision of my life
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>>147915540
>>147915704

diminishing returns past 30/30

I just evened this out to 125 but this could be 120 if you play around VIG, VIT, and STR.
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>>147921145
It's not the worst, but Dancer's twinswords are one of the most disappointing.
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>>147921581
I just ended up playing it and DeS on my PS3
My rig is fine and I still cant run DS1 better than it runs of that glorified bluray player.
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>>147921642
>he has useless points in str, vitality and a fucking knight's ring but no softcapped damage stats
holy shit enjoy doing like 300-400 per vestiges cast
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>>147920780
Petrus confirmed biggest casual filter in the game.
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>>147921464
Heh, I used to do that with church pick, but I guess being able to also shoot makes reiter way better.
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I'm genuinely curious, how would you rank PvE difficulty (based on actual gameplay, not shitty gamecode or whatever) of the souls games / BB?
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>>147920801
are you 2handing though?
post a shot of the actual weapon screen showing base/ scaling
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whats the cap for INT/FAI?
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>>147922114
BB > DS3 > DS2 > DS1 > DeS
But DS2's entire difficulty comes from the "drown player in constant enemy ganks while placing an annoying ranged mob behind them" gimmick.
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Ehhh question.

If I ember up and summon someone at pontiffs, will the phantom be embered aswell?
Also vise versa? how does it work?

Is the phantom always un-ebmered.
Atleast that is what I thought
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>>147921642
it's diminishing returns from the start, past 30 isn't a significant drop off
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>>147922349
>BB
>not the easiest
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>>147922342
soft cap is 40, harder is 60
either go 40/40 or 60 in one
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>>147922458
It's clearly the hardest even if you don't take chalice dungeons into account.
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>>147922349
What's wrong with that gimmick? I like it. Nothing better than immobilizing an entire gank squad with a single R1 from a greatsword. My only problem with das2 were enemies with shield, like syan fucks or the elite drangleic knights in the forest. And shield cunts are way worse in das3.
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>>147922557
>rally
>ranged parries
>0 stamina costs
>every weapon has a fast and long-ranged mode
>hard
"no"
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>>147922413
You being embered has no effect on summoned phantoms, if they ember themselves and then put down the sign they'll be embered in the host world
if you're emebered you can be invaded however, which lets faithfuls and darkmoons get in on the fun
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>>147922557
>hold R2 to kill everything
nah
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>>147922584
because individual enemies in ds2 are poorly designed and provide no challenge AT ALL
game literally has one way of increasing the difficulty that also slows down already slow pace of a combat
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>>147922414
>>147921849

still shit probs
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>>147922557
what's the lore behind these things?
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>>147922739
But it's like that in every single game.
Single red eye knight = backstab chained to death
Single black knight = backstab chained to death
Single syan knight = guard broken to death
Single hunter = parried to death
Single lothric knight = stance R1 into riposte to death
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>>147922596
>>147922685
Found the assmad mustards.
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>>147922584
>shield cunts are way worse in ds3
except they restored the shield kick instead of the slow ass whatever the fuck it was in ds2, AND shield mobs in ds3 either have very weak shields or are enemies you fight 1v1 or 1v2 if you fuck up and pull too many
since so many of ds2's enemies were humanoids those hordes typically also had enemies with shields mixed in
countless times have I tried to mow down forest of giant hollows only for my greatsword to bounce off a fucking footman shield
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>>147922764
>>147922764
DUDE DREAMS LMAO
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>>147922876
>giant fishmen
*parries*
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>>147922869
A single lothric knight provides way more challenge than an entire horde of enemies in DS2.
And unlike DS2 game doesn't rely on ganks as the only form of increasing the difficulty.
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>>147917663
>2KAT
gg2ez
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>>147922764
>>147922894
oh shit i'm sorry
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>>147922986
*shrugs your pathetic parry attempt and combos you to death*
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>>147923119
>he doesn't know the parry timings
they can't combo you to death if you're reposting them
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>>147923002
>a single lothric knight provides way more challenge than an entire horde of enemies in ds2
i wonder how can you type this much while stroking miyazaki's cock with both hands like that.
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>>147923275
>easiest type of knights
>uses a weapon with lighting damage
you can stop posting now
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>redditor comes to 4chan
>shitposts claiming that vitality increases survivability
>runs a million tests to prove it
>muddies up testing with lloyd's, regen and other gimmicks

Should've expected so from a weeb
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>>147923275
Why are you fighting him with an unupgraded weapon?
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>>147923275
meanwhile a horde of enemies in ds2 takes 2 swings and you're still playing a shit game
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>>147922876
I've platinumed BB. Most things being weak to thrust and LHB having a charge thrust made the game brainless the first time around.

>>147923392
You forget the part where it's a +2 raw weapon and It's dealing no damage whatsoever.

>>147923438
To prove that they're not a challenge whatsoever. It's even easier with a longsword, since you can just stunlock them to death.

>>147923447
>attacking ds2 instead of using arguments
and done
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>>147923549
thank you for only reading the last two words of my post before responding dumbfuck
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>>147923549
>an attack can't use a valid point
And trashed
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>>147923653
Shouldn't you be hating das2 on reddit?
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>>147923730
shouldn't you provide an actual response or do you not have one
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>>147923730
Reddit loves DS2. It loves duels, it loves honor shittery, it loves retarded memes and DS2 was full of it.
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>>147923729
>das3 is not shit because das2 is shit
>good argument
>>147923843
I do not care about you.
>>147923852
Last time I checked the BB and dark souls 1 subreddit it was all hate.
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Bloodborne has a better setting than DeS or all of the Dark Souls games

discuss
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>>147923921
I'm not saying lothric knights are that hard because you can stunlock them to death like every other enemy in the game
I'm saying they're still harder than most things DS2 throws at you, and DS2 is still significantly worse than DS3
Feel free to continue being wrong fucko, it's your right, and I'll see you in the next DS2 fightclub ;)
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>you will never hold Sirris down and sodomize her against her will
I don't know how much longer I can keep going...
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30 minutes and counting waiting for a darkmoon summon

am i basically fucked now that i'm SL120? i've got 16 concords to go
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>>147924042
This goes without saying actually.
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>>147924042
Subjective topic in which there are multiple things influencing opinions on this and skewing them

Discuss.
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>>147924042
You're wrong but you're entitled to your opinion
>>147924135
30 minutes is nothing but yeah
Strap on your symbol of avarice and get farming
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Can you find duplicate +2 rings in ng+++?
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>>147924109
Are you a goblin girl?
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>>147922889
Except in DaS3 the guard break isn't guaranteed, like it was in 2, so in NG+...
Oh wait, there's literally no reason to go into NG+ in 3.
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>>147924061
>harder than most things ds2 throws at you
of course he is, he's a end game mob, if you compare to the lesser enemies in ds2, of course he's stronger. Fucking idiot.
>and DS2 is still significantly worse than DS3
Sure, if you enjoy being pandered with "REMEMBER THIS GUY" or "REMEMBER THIS WEAPON" or "OH IT'S HIS THEME BUT REMIXED BY A NON HACK COMPOSER" or a literal fanservice final boss, then of course it is the game of the century.
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>>147924336
i would assume so
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>>147924440
The thing about guard break is easy. The spear lothric knights read your inputs. So if you press forward on your stick, they will react with a shield bash. But if you do a stance R1, they'll never react, and you can easily riposte them.
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>>147924135
>waiting for a darkmoon summon
>am i basically fucked
Yes. Yes, you are. Time to go farm silver k***hts.
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>>147924442
>he's a end game mob
You meet all lothric knight types with the exception of UGS ones in the very beginning, earlier than turtle knights in DS2.
>pandered
Direct sequel and pandering are different things.
DS2 is full of retarded "or perhaps................." bullshit and half-assed throwbacks to DS1, DS3 is a direct sequel of DS1 that adds new details to the lore.
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>try a SL1 run of DaS1
>Battle Axe +5
>unironically getting my shit wrecked by Gargoyles

Am I supposed to go to Vamos and get a fire weapon first or something?
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>>147924659
Resin
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>>147924442
>endgame mob
The difference between the one in the WEBM and the seven something in High wall is numbers, shitlord.

>implying 2 is absolved
They literally do that with Old Chasm of the Abyss and Xanthous set
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>>147924442
>he's an end game mob
>literally all over high wall, the first non-firelink area
have you even played this game
>bringing back weapons from older games is bad
>only patches, andre, and siegward return as they were int he old games
>patches has been in every game since DeS
>andre and siegward returns because the game takes place in the same areas as ds1
>CONTINUITY IS BAD WAAA
neck yourself
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>>147924659
>axes in ds1
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>>147924613
>You meet all lothric knight types with the exception of UGS ones in the very beginning
And they do 0 damage and are way slower to react to you. You also meet a syan knight very early in das2, so what?

>direct sequel
yeah, right. Remember when the theme of gwyn came out in the middle of soul of cinder fight I almost cried.

>DS2 is full of retarded "or perhaps......" bullshit
cite one
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>>147924659
+5 should easily be enough
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>>147922889
>since so many of ds2's enemies were humanoids
Literally the same thing in DS3.

>>147923447
>meanwhile a horde of enemies in ds2 takes 2 swings
If that was really the case, nobody would be complaining about the ganks.
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>>147924762
Patches is also shown from an entirely different perspective as he actually SAVES a person.
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>Almost 4 months from release
>People STILL don't know you can't parry UGW
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>>147915130
>>147914940
I get to use it at least 30% of the time, I usually use it when I'm just out of range of an attack. You basically have to time it like a parry, the moment you think they're gonna attack. Even if it doesn't land there's the possibility they'll walk into your string of pokes anyway because they think you're done attacking. Highly situational attack, just as always.
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>>147924786
>You also meet a syan knight very early
yes after you make your way through tower of heide which is not scrub friendly
also it's literally just one and it is piss easy since you've already killed about 30 'big dude in armor with shields'
have you actually played any dark souls games or are you going off what you saw in a lets play?
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I can host a PC FC in these locations.
Postpontiff/Anor Londo, Dragon Barracks, Profaned Capital, and Settlement.
Any interest?
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>>147924897
>slow walk away
Too much.
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>>147925017
settlement is pretty good for FC
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>>147924442
>Sure, if you enjoy being pandered with "REMEMBER THIS GUY" or "REMEMBER THIS WEAPON" or "OH IT'S HIS THEME BUT REMIXED BY A NON HACK COMPOSER" or a literal fanservice final boss, then of course it is the game of the century.

Let's be honest, both of the games were really pandering. The only thing that matters is whether you like the end result.

I did like both games so idk.

>>147924613
>earlier than turtle knights in DS2.
You meet turtle knights and Syan Knights in FotFG.

Meeting Turtle Knights doesn't even require beating the first boss in SotFS.
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>>147924659
try Reinforced Club. it's so strong in NG that using it feels like cheating sometimes. it staggers them in 2 hits too, if i remember right
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>>147925008
There's one literally in front of the king's door. I knew you had no idea what you're talking about. Thanks for proving my point.
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>>147924728
>Heavy weapon against a heavy weapon.
Was that supposed to prove something? Seek passive straight/curved/nihon swords players and try to kill them.
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>>147925017
Yes please.
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>>147924786
Off of armor sets alone
>Xanthous, even uses 'perhaps'
>Steel
>Havel
>Judgement
>Dark
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't get rewards for killing invaders as wolf of farron or aldrich right? Whatfor then is the purpose of aggroing other invaders?
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>>147924786
>And they do 0 damage
They do enough damage to be a considerable threat in early game and blue one can wrecks your shit very hard if you aren't careful.
>cite one
Do i really need to cite like half of item descriptions or you will stop embarrassing yourself and spin back to ds2?
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>>147925008
>yes after you make your way through tower of heide which is not scrub friendly
Lmao, Tower of Heide is easier than FotFG+Pursuer because you can kill the Dragonrider without even using a weapon on him.

>have you actually played any dark souls games or are you going off what you saw in a lets play?
This is funny because there's a Syan Knight in Forest of the Fallen Giants, near the Cardinal tower bonfire.
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>>147925210
Being a cunt
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>>147925152
so after you've killed the last giant and possibly the pursuer?
do you really think that's difficult?
the syan knight after heide only requires you to kill dragonrider.
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>>147925170
Heavy weapons or not, Those were two rollcatches with a FUGS. Passive straight swords and the likes would have done the same thing
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>>147925091
>>147925190
Settlement FC, PC, pw dsg.
Place your signs on the steps where I'm standing, fight in the big clearing with the Crystal Lizard.
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>>147925210
What's wrong in that webm exactly?
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>>147925374
My fault, i should have said "competent passive swords players".
That guy was extremely shit. Rolling near you for absolutely no reason.
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>>147925064
;^) Parry shitters deserve worse
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>>147925317
??? no there isn't??
you can be invaded by an npc dressed like a syan knight in fucking NG+, that's as close as you get
and your average player will not know how to cheese dragonrider
and after that is a single knight, compared to the lothric knights on highwall which can come in pairs at least
if you get embarrassed feel free to delete your post
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>>147925347
>so after you've killed the last giant and possibly the pursuer?
Not really. You don't need any keys to open that door.
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>>147925479
I love rolling around in shit.
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>>147925585
he's probably a SOTFS shitter who never played in original DS2
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>>147925494
Wolf of farron was attacking me
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>>147925590
you need the soldier's key
which drops from the fallen giant
thanks for playing DS2 trivia
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>>147925479
Literally can't get there since I didn't buy the key early enough in this playthrough and now it's unobtainable.
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>>147925479
seems way too much to get to there
undead settlement bonfire past the gate with the doggies is better imo
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>>147925743
You can drop down there from where Eygon sits. It shouldn't kill you.

But I'll consider a change of location.
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>>147925479
Why not Dilapidated Bridge like literally every other Settlement FC
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>>147925585
>??? no there isn't??
There's one guarding the gate you open with the King's Ring.
You can get there after you defeat The Last Giant and get the Soldier's Key.

>and your average player will not know how to cheese dragonrider
He's still literally the easiest boss, or at least he's easier than the Pursuer.

>and after that is a single knight, compared to the lothric knights on highwall which can come in pairs at least

The one near the Tower on the Wall bonfire is a solitary knight and you can easily fight him 1v1.

There's one after the pus of man in the rooftop, it's a spear knight.

Anyway, I think that Lothric Knights are the hardest individual knight enemies, even surpassing Red Eye Knights from DeS because they can buff their weapons and cast heals, but let's not set aside the facts here.
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how can the Last Giant drop a soul if you took the Giant Lord's soul from him in the past?
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>>147925743
Fall control?
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>>147925876
He's that strong willed. Not even taking his soul is enough to take his soul.
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>>147925743
Cat ring?

>>147925846
This anon said a great place.
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I am so fucking pissed. So I was 30 hours into my 100% playthrough, this time going for the usurpation of flame ending. The Londor Pale Shade drops weapon only obtained through killing him and you have to have yuria aggroed in order for him to invade. So i was gonna aggro yuria and then request absolution from velka to get rid of her aggro. After I killed Londor Shade I go to Velka to get rid of my sin and it tells me "you have not sinned". So I go to Firelink Shrine and for some reason Yuria is dead, having dropped Darkdrift and her ashes, why?
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>>147925743
What? You can always get it no matter what and even if you didn't, just use cat ring.
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>btfo some guy in the last thread who thought yhorms was good and somehow better than great club
>doesn't reply back at all
rofl
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PS4 FC, anyone? I can host one in Demon Ruins.
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>starting an int build
>undead parish berenike knight drops the greatsword
>capra drops the demon great machete

Is the game trying to tell me something?
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>>147925962
She couldn't defend from the Darkrift.
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>>147926160
can't blame her, NOTHING can defend from the Darkdrift
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Fuck it. FC is staying in the pit. There's already enough signs.
If you don't have the key, I guarantee the fall isn't lethal, just run from the Road of Sacrifices bonfire.
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>>147925962
She probably killed herself somehow.
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>>147925572

Is it still possible to parry those 2HR1s?
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>>147925864
after a player has defeated the last giant i think they're pretty well prepared to fight a single greatshield+spear knight
in high wall there's-
>the one immediately right to the tower with the first mimic, which has other hollow enemies around
>the spear knight you mentioned
>the sword/spear knights that patrol the path to emma/dancer which you HAVE to at least run away from
>the red eye blue knight on the left side and the sword knight on right right, both pretty optional
this isn't taking into consideration your first angel knight encounter before vordt
i think that's comparability more knights you have to fight before your first real boss than syan knights you might happen to come across playing ds2
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Yuria of Londor is best DaS3 girl

that is all
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>>147926206
>able to post whining about it instead of homo boning back to a bonfire and posting a picture
Fuck you and your FC nigger
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Why do people always feel the need to taunt in ganks, when they needed to resort to chugging and 2v1ing someone to win?
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>>147925846
yes pls, that'd be a super fun location

Getting down there is an endless slog
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>>147922764
>can't one-hand the AGS
>not using the shield of want
Just stop.
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>>147926298
Firekeeper is better. She's also not a manipulative zombie bitch.
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>>147926376
To get reactions just like this
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>>147926298
>>147926449
GOAT grill says hello
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>>147926449
bearer seek seek lest v2
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>>147926157
yes
play DaS3
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>>147926376
because it makes you mad
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>>147926343
>>147926416
You only have to run there once, and it's less than a minute from the nearest bonfire.
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>about to kill a boss
>see a summon sign
>think why not, maybe he needs souls
>summon him
>first thing he does is clap
>BC him out again
I WAS feeling generous, but if you're going to diss the person who summons you for summoning, fuck right off.
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>>147926557
enjoy your chinese knockoff Yuria lmao
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>>147926657
don't you respawn at the bonfire after dying as a red?

also what SL?
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>>147926726
You spawn where you were when you got summoned. SL100-120.
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>>147926716
i do thanks
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>>147926704
>generous
>summon signs
>implying most of those aren't helping scrubs like you out
What boss?
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>>147926704
he might have tried to do another emote or liked your name/build
but then you had to go and be a little bitch which you already were for summoning someone and then trying to use that lame excuse, fucko
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>>147926557
is Karla a das2 child of manus?
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>>147926704
>clapping is now BM

Maybe he just liked your build.
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Finally killed that nigger giant in Undead settlement that was firing arrows at me.
The thing is though, he took some time to aggro after me throwing Firebombs at him that I feel like I've made a mistake. Please tell me he wasn't an NPC.
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>>147926704
>immediately think someone is mocking you when they clap
you have some deep seated issues my friend
you should probably try an easier game
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>>147927076
Anon who taught you to shoot first and ask questions later?
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>>147927076
He would've helped any time ;-;
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>>147927076
he [sp]gives you a white branch that makes him stop shooting arrows at you, whilst targeting enemies in the vicinity[/sp]
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>>147926704
was that you anon
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>>147927168
highlight something and then press ctrl+s to spoiler it automatically
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>>147926917
>>147926835
>What boss?
One of the easiest to solo bosses in the entire game: Yhorm. So no, I didn't need the help.
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https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/54267

viability?
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>>147927138
>Anon who taught you to shoot first and ask questions later?
Dark Souls 1.

>>147927168
RIP.
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PC FC
pw: dsg
Settlement pit, run from either the Cliff Underside or Road of Sacrifices and drop down where you first meet Eygon. Signs near the stairs.
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>>147927304
thanks senpai, I keep mixing up tags
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>>147927319
>summoning for yhorm

Hahahaha what a pussy faggot bitch go play super mario
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>>147927319
you would have no reason to assume someone was mocking you for summoning them unless you did it for the help or are a giant fucking baby
things do not look good for you either way
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>>147927429
this FC is turned sour by the fact that jund's #1 fanboy is playing in it
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>>147927660
which one is that
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>>147927429
>full regular estus
>no spells
>coiled sword and charm

Shit host, wouldn't drop sign.
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>>147927710
We have a doggy though.
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>>147927694
threshold guy
full reactive play makes for a very frustrating fight
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>>147927814
I bet you bullied him.

>>147927817
What's hsi weapon though?
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>>147927901
i think AGS + estoc, couldn't tell which rapier weapon though
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>>147927901
>>147927901

Estoc on the left, Astora GS rolling R1s on the right
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>>147927817
>>147927947
>>147928027
I didn't know I was using a meme setup.
I'll go away, my honest apologies.
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>>147928120
no need to go away, i'd just use something a bit less meta-breaking
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Anybody was here during the DSP Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 stream ?

How did his DS3 stream compare to those? Did /dsg/ invade him?
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>>147927542
I dunno man. Someone claps at me, I automatically assume they do it sarcastically. Maybe all those fucking pontiff duels have soured me on the gesture or something.
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>>147927304
how did i not know this before
holy fuck, thanks anon
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>>147927319
>mfw the first time I played through I didn't notice the item by the throne and wasn't embered, so I beat him with chip damage over ~40 minutes
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>>147928223
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You guys can totally have two fights running at a time if you think the area's big enough.
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>ccs
host??
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>>147928487
>that items looks tempting but if the wolnir fight has taught me anything it's that the smart move would be to wait and get it after
>mon visage
thank fuck i had siegward with me
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>>147928487
Jesus. You poor, patient soul.
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>>147926947
No but I think there are hints her being a descendant of alsanna
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>>147928223
>How did his DS3 stream compare to those?
He got a shitload of help, someone even dropped him a highly upgraded Gravelord Greatsword near the start of his DaS1 run, while shit like that is impossible in 3.

>Did /dsg/ invade him?
Multiple times.
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>>147928592
We both agreed on me using the CCS

I switched back for the Falchion for the other fights
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>>147928646
Oh, such as? I thought it was just Zullie
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>>147928487
The Yhorm fight should have been somewhat like this it just a little less tedious. I got fucking hype watching the first DS3 trailer with him then it turns out to be some "lel nostalgia" gimick fight.
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D-Do you think a simple hollow can beat aldrich, guys?
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>>147928889
i can see that great chaos fireball and i know that you will kill him in like 3 casts of it
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>>147928889
>GCFO

Yes. Also, hollow or raw infuse the weapon.
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>>147928889
>simple hollow
>GCFO
>>
I'm thinking of doing a paladin str+fai build. What kind of decent weapons would fit both practically and thematically?
How good are the metal hammers and greathammers in this?
What about naturally scaling faith weapons, any specific recommendations?
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>>147928889
What platform? What SL? I'm at the bonfire right now on PS4 if you want help.
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>>147928889
>great chaos fire orb
>attunement ring
>ashen estus
you and i both know you're going that straight sword for like all of two swings
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>>147928889
>Great chaos fireball
Do you even need to ask?
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>>147928889
You should have removed that spell if you wanted us to think you struggled with the fight.
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>>147928846
I'm not in a good position to search for it right now, but karla is very similar to zullie. Like a fucked up version
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>>147926285
Nah- pretty sure there was a video posted a bit ago showing that they patched that
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>>147929005
LKGS is basically the Paladin weapon. All the good looking hammers and greathammers would suck.
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>>147929005
Cathedral GS is alright and looks baller, literally any halberd/spear will also serve you well
Dragonslayer Axe is good if you want to use a shield
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>still no estoc nerfs
>or Darksword nerfs
>or hornet ring nerfs
>or BKH nerfs
Uninstalling.
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>>147929005
Cleric starting mace is one of the best weapons, if only for the weapon art
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>>147929125
Yes, I know, I'm curious of the Alsanna connection.
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>>147929220
Are you stupid or just not paying attention?
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>>147927429
still going?
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>start thinking about an archer build
>look up bows

what the actual fuck is wrong with Fromsoft?

the BEST bow only gets B scaling at +10, with pissant damage?

what the fucking fuck
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>>147928646
she calls herself a "wretched child of the Abyss," and her gear does this too. It also states that she flits in and out of the Abyss over time
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>>147929374
Yep.
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>>147928981
>>147928986
>>147928989
>>147929065
>>147929079
>>147929119
I use the orb when I'm rushing and an invader comes, I try melee with the bosses. Just for you, I depleted it all before the fight.

>>147929018
Thanks but I wanna do it alone, I'm on PC anyways.
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Up to this day i still can't understand who gotthards are considered good outside of roll l1 which is better on twin spears anyway.
Parry attempts can be punished with a myriad of things and against anything else L2 is worthless. L1 is slow as shit and can be reaction parried. They have like 30-50 AR less than all other longswords and lack good moveset of LKS for example. Not to mention that gotthards physically can't counter turtling.
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>>147929005
lothric gs with slb
morne's
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>>147929380

Not to mention you can only carry around 99 arrows.
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>>147927429
Is that... a full FC?
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>>147929380
also no rolling attacks and a garbage WA
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>>147929568
Still going strong.
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>>147929364
Did any of them get nerfed? I just wanted to shitpost. I would be pretty happy if they did.
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>>147929447
Best range of all swords, the smaller AR is negligible.
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who here hopes that the DLC will have a boss that banters with you like Micolash?
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>>147929639
I think I implied pretty heavily that at least a few of them did.
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>>147929592
>no rolling attacks
try a bow. it even has a good running r1, can't say the same for the WA.
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>>147929364
>9 AR
>estoc still fast as fuck

Doesn't matter if the third attack got delayed, they are still fast as fuck and the latency makes them fundamentaly broken.
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Well, seems like a hollow could, and like I proved in >>147929429 I didn't use pyromancy. Thanks for your support, I guess.
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>>147929592
>>147929380
>>147929514
>also can't be infused

urge to play is dead, the fire has gone out
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>>147929429
good luck. try different infusions on the sword - i used refined and the damage was quite good
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>>147929845
It's about time we started getting subtle balances instead of having shit nerfed into uselessness.
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I want to make a greatshield tank.
What weapon do I pick with it?
I'll prolly have tons of STR since it gives Flat reduction.

Heavy Broadsword? Darksword? anything else?
I only have 20 stamina though, so keep that in mind. Ultras are no good
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>>147929678
Damn why did you have to bring up BB? If they DLC can make this game even remotely like BB I'll be happy as fuck.
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What SL should I be to invade in Catacombs of Carthus? I want to try knocking people into pits with greatbows.
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>>147929639
Estoc now can't have a third attack come as fast as the first. Amazing nerf.
Dark Sword now has 9 less AR.
Hornet Ring got buffed
BKH actually got nerfed but just use the lucerne instead lmao.
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>make my first quality build after 430h of gameplay
>gotthards
>bloodring
>smash buttons
>win
wow this game is so much fun
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I wish the Dried Finger would make you invadeable even if the area's boss is dead.
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>>147929616
I'm at work bb :'(
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>>147928592
>estoc
>gotthard
>twinspears
>complaining about the dude that used a ccs only once

What is it, anon? Have you been triggered?
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>>147929990
>9 less AR
Oh cool so my pure mage build is still strong?
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>>147930194
>twinspears
>good
they're a worse gotthards
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>>147929980
ESSENTIAL DAS3 DLC BOSSES

>Frampt/Kaathe
>Velka
>real Ornstein
>Gertrude
>original caster of the Profaned Flame
>king/queen of Londor
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Thorn armor guy here, I'm done with FC for today, gg to everyone
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>>147929962
>subtle

I'll give you that alright. From an amazingly broken weapon to a broken as fuck weapon.

Estoc users are a total bother to fight and almost always turtle behind shields.

>>147929990
Make it slower and give it more range and lower its stamina consumption.
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>>147930273
>no 'TRUE pontiff'
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>>147929954
Thanks, already beat it >>147929949
I'm gonna try what >>147928986 said and do a hollow infusion, I just used pyromancy in the first place since people suggested it here.
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>>147930214
Yeah sure.

>>147930350
>Make it slower and give it more range and lower its stamina consumption.
Make what slower?
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>>147930387
Pontiff is dead, you take his soul
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>>147930194
Hey, I didn't spam the roll L1 with twinspears and gotthard at least. I also used gotthard for half a fight
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>here at dsg FCs we avoid the meta
>in return the two to three fags who don't punish us for it
>AGS, PGS, R1 spam, fist offhand, DUOWIELDs, etc.
There just ain't a point desu
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Good places to farm for souls?
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>>147930194
>twinspears

That weapon is pretty shitty though.
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>>147930512
the two silver nights at anor londo bonfire
you also get ears
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>>147930350
The complaints about the Estoc were almost all about how fast it could endlessly r1 spam especially as turtle. That got fixed and you had to left hand it to get max speed (i.e. give up a shield). People still bitched and so that got "fixed too. At thus point you are just bitching because you suck too much to beat it.
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>>147930620
>People still bitched and so that got "fixed too.
It did? When was that?
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>>147930470
Jesus, I knew using my main build would've been a mistake. Next time I'm bringing my fume build like I usually do.
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How should souls be viewed? Is one soul equal to the soul of a regular citizen as we know them? Do they only have one soul? Is one Throwing Knife really worth 20 citizens?
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>>147930273
Should have 4 gauntlet at their peak strength.

>Gough - Rapid firing greatbow and wrasslin moves
>Ciaran - parry/backstab fisher
>Artorias - Non crippled, faster than DS1 version and can now turtle with his greatshield (Sif joins half-way)
>Ornstein - A faster version of nameless king, deals less damage, sanic-teleport jabs (Smough joins half-way)
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>>147930432
Yhorm will be fun
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>>147930713
Last patch. Estoc is still very oppressive and a top 5 pvp weapon. Retard lucy doesn't know what he's talking about.
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>>147930620
Doesn't matter, it's still bullshit.
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>>147930816
How about something new for once. You can literally fight all of these people already.
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>>147930762
1 soul = normie human soul

soul that grants more souls than 1 is X times more powerful than a normie human's soul
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does the pontiff skip still work?
will i break any questlines?

i want to free karla early
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>>147930762
>kill ordinary citizen
>Never get 1 soul
Retard anime poster desu
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>>147930884
I never said it wasn't still top tier, 'tardo. That's the whole point of me mentioning "subtle" balances.
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>>147930904
This please. I'm tired of the nostalgia meme shit.
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>>147930816
no thanks, I've already fought all of those guys

the only one I'd MAYBE go for is Ornstein just to see how "real" Ornstein fights, but the other 3? nahfamalam
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>>147930904
>How about something new for once.
This is DS3 we're talking about. Nothing but rehashed shit. Wouldn't be surprised if they threw in the old lords in DLC.
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>>147931073
Doesn't mean such nostalgia pandering should be encouraged.
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>>147931024
What's subtle about making a top tier weapon still top tier? How is it subtle if it changed nothing relevant for pvp?
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>>147930978
What if you DO get the souls but you can't use them because there's no Firekeepers
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>>147930858
Actually already "beat" Yhorm, following the story so siegward was there.

Anyways, should I? Would it fit the character?
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>>147931024
>"subtle" balances

aka no balance at all

Changes have done pretty much fuck all when it comes to weapons. Only reason why estoc and dark sword aren't used by 90% of the playerbase right now is because people discovered 2kat and ccs/storm curved.
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The rapier / black knight shield dude tore me a new one, jesus

How do you get to confirm backstabs that quickly? As soon as he was behind me, it was pretty much over

Props for not being a hornet shitter
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>>147931149
Then you use them as currency or simply have them in your being

If you were a baller fucker like Chosen Undead you'd do the work yourself anyways
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>>147931135
>>147931214
>BAWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111oneoneone Why you no completely destroy the weapons I suck againsT?!!!!!!!1111oneone
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Does anyone still play this on PS4? I've seen like 2 summon signs from beginning to Aldrich
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>>147929380
Scaling is not the only thing that decides their damage. Longbows with feather arrows have pretty impressive headshot damage and can snipe any enemy from another side of location. Pharis bow is a shotgun against big opponents. Composite bow with heavy arrows is a physical version of great farron dart in terms of safety and damage. Dark arrows have homing effect. Throw crossbows into the mix and ranged playthrough becomes pretty doable and fun.
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>>147930762
I think souls are a more abstract concept, more like a powerlevel measuring greatness instead of actual power.
In DaS3 a boring lowlife would probably be less than a hundred, a cannon fodder soldier about five hundred, and a normal commander would escalate to several thousand. Truly remarkable individuals would be in the tens of thousands and legendary ones in the hundred thousands.
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>>147931208
Just stick to firebombs, not only because they fit better, but because you can only carry 10 dung pies at once anyway so they're worthless.
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>>147922275
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>>147931398
How are those autism therapy sessions going?
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>>147930273
The true final boss of the series will be a humanity sprite.
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>>147931398
As expected.
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>>147931630
what's it going to do, float lazily towards you?
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>>147931701
Yep, I should have known better than to try to play chess with a pidgin.
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>>147931769
It has all the moves of the previous lords who linked the fire!
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>>147931826
>Acting like a retard when you have literally no arguments equals playing chess
Come on, lucy.
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>>147931887
but we already did that
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>>147931826
>dark souls 3
>chess

Tripfags, everytime
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>>147931283
attack behind shield from rapiers and spears do backstab animation quicker it seems
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>>147931769
Look pathetic and die.
Like DeS' true final boss.
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Does estus affect invasions matching?
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>>147931769
It will be as Orphan.
Pathetic-looking but actually the most dangerous creature you will ever meet that uses full power of Abyss to destroy you.
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>>147932105
nope
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>>147932161
So a skinny Manus.
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>>147932161
>be born
>literally immediately get murdered
Orphan of Kos had a hard life, and he didn't even do anything to deserve it
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The last DLC boss should be s fight that you literally can never win. Like an Ancient Dragon type boss but that you actually can't kill.
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>>147932226
Manus only summoned a small humanity rain. Imagine a creature that manipulates Abyss into different shapes like enormous sword or modifies the battlefield itself to make it harder for you to reach him.
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>>147932379
Manus was the original Raime in terms of 2hu bullet hell mechanics.
Also I'm certain from doesn't have the technology for terraforming on the fly.
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Welp, that was way more fun than I thought it'd be.
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>>147932161
>>147932379
what would you even call such an entity?
>inb4 THE DARK SOUL
shit would be corny af
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>>147930762
>>147931494


Yeah, they're an arbitrary currency that's just there because.

What I don't kinda get is how people who come to Lordran to peddle their wares and want to go somewhere else after they've become rich exchange those souls into normie money. I guess they barter for useful items and then ship them off to whereever they're from originally.

>>147931630
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>>147930273
The real Priscilla, the way they intended her to be originally. A protagonist, someone wholly good and of noble intent.

And then you kill her. And the screen fades to black with a somber voiceover by opening narration lady describing how everything goes to shit. It's the ultimate downer ending, and there are no alternate endings.
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>NG+ Aldrich takes four GCFO to kill

I love it because I fucking hate his boss fight.
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>>147932550
That's literally what humanity is, though.
They're little dark souls.
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>>147932371
That would actually be pretty fitting. Maybe have the screen fade to black after a certain time spent fighting, symbolising that the fight goes on forever.
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>>147932617
>implying that we wont visit a destroyed version of the Painted World and see Velka weeping over Priscilla's corpse
>implying that Velka's bossfight won't be set up similarly to Gascoigne looking for Viola
Hollows all over the shop...
You'll be one of them, sooner or later...
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>>147932550
Dark Soul may be cliche as fuck but it would also be fucking awesome and very fitting for a last boss of souls series.
Bonus points if his battle will involve Serpents as well.
>>
My bad Vincent. I wanted to kick you since no one was going in to fight.
>>
I CAN HOST A PS4 FIGHT CLUB AT DEMON RUINS.

Let me know if you're interested, people.
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>>147930273
>real Ornstein
No.

>Velka
Maybe.
And even if they fuck her up, I get to see Enb shit his pants in fury.

>Frampt/Kaathe
Kaathe may appear due to the Darkwraiths *SOMEONE* sent to kill the Abyss Watchers.
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>>147933004
And Frampt is obviously behind the whole Angels business
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>>147932756
>>147932813
>implying that the Dark Soul has enough of a consciousness to attack you
it's a fucking soul, an inanimate object. Gwyn's soul doesn't rise up from his body to fuck you up
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>>147932813

Ignore the watermark: remember this from 2015? Check the massive Pus of Man in the upper right corner and the undulating black crests in the background - that shit is what I hope the DLC expands on.
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>>147933106
Yo what sword is that?
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>>147933106
I also remember abyssal fountains-of-goo sacrifices and making your own bonfires and day-evening-night transition of Lothric with black vegetation spreading everywhere, don't play with my feeling like that, anon.
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>>147933168
Dual Magic Makoto and he's using the Templar's Faith on the right hand.
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>>147933249
Why did people want bonfires-on-demand? Seems like a shitty mechanic.
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>>147933086
Soul of Cinder has enough of a consciousness to attack you and Dark Soul should be even stronger than that.
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>>147933086
Its intent wouldn't be to attack you.
The little sprites in the Chasm of the Abyss down in Oolacile Dungeon approach and unintentionally attack you because they're drawn to you almost by magnetism, the primordial humanity could be an extension of that concept.
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>>147933249
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>>147933084
if the Serpents were the Angels, how come they have statues of themselves all over the place
>implying that heretics on the run from the Government would have the time to make statues of their fake gods in the middle of their enemy's stronghold
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>>147932550

The Furtive Pygmy
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>>147933084
the angelic faith advoactes the fading of the flame and there was deemed heretical
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>>147933452
Nigga the whole Archives are an exception, they practiced every heresy without being pursued for it because Oceiros himself was a heretic and you only find Frampt's statues there.
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>>147933353
the SoC is different, though. It's acting like the Firekeeper of the First Flame itself, it isn't literally the first flame or the Light Soul
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PC FC still going on. Please refer to >>147925479
>>147927429
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Soo, should I add an offhand crossbow to my hollow run? and if so, which ones do hollows use?
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>>147933584
And Dark Soul might be a collective consciousness formed by all humanity dregs that fell into the deepest layer of the Abyss since the beginning of time, like Aldritch predicted would happen during the age of the deep.
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>>147933452
>>147933579
it's very simple people

Serpents act as advisors to the crown. This pleases the Crown, and they are put on coins and statues and shit in recognition of their service.

People start worshiping these advisors like Gods. The Way of White does not like this, and brands them heretics.
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The final boss of the DLC will be The Maiden in Black.

She'll keep coming back to life, and apologising.

It'll be an unwinnable fight.
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let us all pray for this forlorn soul
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>>147933863
I'd touch the demon inside that.
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>>147932812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn05qpn2e1Y
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>>147933669
>which ones do hollows use?
Light crossbows and Arbalest.
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>>147933879
New covenant confirmed. To level up in the covenant you need to bring him bones (not homeward)
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>>147933337
Depends on how you balance it.
Make it a finite consumable that is scarce enough to make you wonder "do I pop a bonfire here to refill or try to get a bit closer to the boss?" it'd be fine.
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>>147934264
Thanks for the help m8.
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>>147934172
Man, Plague has lost his touch
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as a phantom, can you kill the pilgrim hiding in the church?
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cheeky cunt really doesn't want to spoil any details about the first DLC
hopefully we will get something as mind-blowing as second phase of Ludwig again
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>>147933718
would we fight it in Londor?
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>>147934781
No, asshole.
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>>147933863
>she's blind and nearly helpless
>her attacks are fumbling swipes with her staff
>she can easily be blocked, parried or dodged
>but every attack that lands drains you of a soul level
>when you're SL 1 and she hits again, you dissolve and the fight ends with a cutscene of her ascending to a higher state of being, then exploding into souls spreading across the land
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>>147934296
You could also make it a challenge by not using any bonfires except ones in the beginning of levels.
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>>147934868
I hope it is fantasy castle with magic, fairies and a cute animal.
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>>147934929
ffs, this game doesnt let you have any fun
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>>147934905
Lowest level of Londor should be directly connected to the deepest layer of Abyss via some structure like a giant, half-broken underground tower you need to descend.
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>>147934172
Jesus, that was terrible.
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>>147934868
The DLCs will probably be great. They've been playing fairly safe with the base game which isn't a bad thing, but I think they'll bring out something very interesting in the DLCs.

They'll probably let the guy who did the DaS 2 DLCs do some neat shit.

Also, I hope they would improve the NG+.
Currently it's pathetic. I want to see something like Demon's Souls Pure Black World Tendency in DS3.
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>>147935084
>waaah why can't I be an epic troll and murder host's npcs when invading
>>>/youtube/
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remember when souls games were good?
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>>147935245
>let the guy who did the DaS 2 DLCs
fuck no, hopefully it will be the same people who did TOH
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>>147935283
>this is my first souls game: the post

throw yourself away, your garbage
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>>147935084
You could always just join someone's game and lure mob after mob over to the host and make him do all the fighting. Works best in DaS1 though desu senpai.
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>>147932462
>Raime
Reimu?
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>>147935245
>but I think they'll bring out something very interesting in the DLCs.
actually useful Dark Magic pls
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>>147935318
They've always been glitchy shitfests.
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>>147934172

It wasn't that bad, but not that good either.
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>>147932341
Except being born subhuman, like so many things in the world
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>>147935591
>Great One
>subhuman
>sub
>human
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>>147934296
Didn't one of the early screenshots also show the player creating a bonfire by shoving a coiled sword into a dead NPC? Given how many NPC questlines in DaS3 end in a tragic death someplace, it would've fit perfectly. On your first few playthroughs, you fuck up the questlines and everyone dies but at least you get bonfires out of it. But once you know how to save them all you're in a nightmare hard mode of the game where bonfires are scarce and boss runs are long.

Would've added some much-needed replay value and also been hilarious justice for casual babbies who use a walkthrough on their first playthrough to save every NPC.

>>147933863
Demon's Souls and Bloodborne are standalone games in different universes. Take your gay headcanon elsewhere.
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FC over. I need food. I might host again in a couple hours maybe.
Thanks for everyone that showed up.
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>>147935664
I don't think you understand that humans are the best thing in existence and everything not human is by definition lesser, son. I recommend twenty chapters of Berserk and three volumes of Drifters.
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>>147935956
>humans are the best!
>to prove this, I want you to read 20 chapters of a man who's father is Nosferatu Zodd
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>>147935939
Thanks for hosting!
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>>147936087
nice speculah
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Is Iron flesh even worth it for a greatshield tank with high vit.?
Poise sounds fun butthe fact that I cannot run anymore kind of questions its viability in pvp
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>hosts still attack the stormking's feet

aaaaa
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>>147936387
Just use Havel's shield
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If anyone has a Lorian's Greatsword they don't need for dark souls 3 on ps4 I'd appreciate it. I'll trade titanite slab or anything else worthwhile someone might want.
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>>147936387
people can either run away from you and throw shit in your face or duel charm it off you
it isn't useful outside of fucking with scrubs at low SL
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>>147936470
>lel these scrubsters didnt read the guide like I did
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>>147935939
Thank you for hosting.
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>>147936581
>first boss in the area is a wyvern you kill by dropping on his head
>miniboss is another wyvern you kill by whacking his head
>the wyverns in lothric take extra damage from headshots
>HURR I SHOULD HIT THIS DRAKES FEET
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>>147936581
>needing a guide for king of the storm
>being an apologist for it
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>Beat Nameless King on a character weeks ago
>Decide to be a jolly co-operator
>Head to Great Bellfry to help peeps with the king
>Archdragon Peak is in it's stormy condition despite the King being ded
>Floor of clouds and everything
>Invisible wall where the fog should be
>Can't pass through said wall

Anyone know anything more about this glitch?
S-Should i be spooked?
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>>147936562
I figured.
Planning around making a build with the highest defense possible.
Obviously I am already using magic shield, so having to use iron flesh aswell would drastically increase the cast time before fights.

>>147936535
Planning to use either Greatshield of glory with magic shield or Black knight shield with greater magic shield.

Planning two seperate builds atm. Will post in a few minutes in ask for feedback.

Having 100% spell immunity sounds nice atleast, but I also fell in love with the greatshield bash so I am kinda torn atm.
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>>147936581
>Hit the feet
>14 damage
>"I SHOULD KEEP GOING OUT OF MY WAY TO HIT THE FEET INSTEAD OF HITTING THE MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE HEAD AND NECK"
You don't need a fucking guide to have common sense
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>>147935372
You can lure mobs into phantoms and hold NPCs hostage.
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>>147936823
THE KING LIVES ON
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If I don't want to summon Yuria, can I just kill her after SoC?
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>>147937095
>MORE EASILY ACCESSIBLE HEAD AND NECK
Now that's a big lie.
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>>147937437
t. shitter
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>>147937335

She leaves all her stuff in Firelink Shrine after defeating SoC so there's no reason to.
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>wolf invasions galore yesterday
>none today

I ONLY NEED 3 MORE SWORDGLASS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147937250
Did you paint this?
Thumbnail looks great.
If so, keep pushing detail.

Would love to see the final
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>>147937437
When the King of Storms whips around to start spitting fire, there's a nice little alcove right behind its head that's both completely safe and closer than the feet. If you've ever beaten the Storm King, you probably have used it, and if not, holy fuck, did you kill him with a bow only or some shit, because I don't know any other way to fight him and I don't need another way.
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>invade solo host
>they simply return to the nearest open pace and try to turn this into a duel

I do get not wanting to fight in unfair terms, but I'm not after duels, call some phantoms or follow me into a narrow area, but stop pretending it was a RSS.
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>>147936581
Anon it doesn't take a guide to know you're doing something wrong when you hit for a fraction of your normal damage.
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>>147937706
I've beaten him several times, including with a +2 weapon on a sl20 character and on a SL1. All I'm saying is that to the new player, the head and neck are not "more easily accessible".
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>>147937736
I do this every time I get invaded. The way I see it there are three options.
>phantom gangbang
>invader+NPCs gangbang
>fighting one on one with impunity and without distraction
Seems like the most reasonable course of action, and it's more fun.
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>>147937706
i just roll through the fire while near his head
is the cone is tiny right at his mouth and you just get to the other side of his head for free hits
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Is the mace a shit weapon in PvP?
Is it even the tiniest bit viable in Pontiff and the likes?
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Invading in Grand Archives is a ton of fun. Got my remaining shekels real quick.
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>>147938304
It's okay against people who are bad at pvp especially if they aren't using meta weapons. It's not a good counter to decent players.
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>>147937976
If you're talking about someone who is bad at the game fighting Nameless King somehow, then they probably wouldn't be concerned about attacking him but trying to stay alive, and nothing would look accessible. All I know is that when I got the hang of the dragon, I was sprinting at it as it was charging the fire attack to get in the nape of its neck and doing damage. I didn't need anyone to tell me to hit it in the head, Gaping Dragon already taught me that head shots on dragons are cool. Granted he's not in this game, but the player should always assume hitting something in the head does more damage, which is the case for many enemies in this game. It just so happens to be the only way to genuinely hurt this drake, which given his moveset and all the openings it leaves you, is perfectly fine.
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>>147938304
almost all maces and axes are in a poor spot because straight swords are just better in every way for mid range lightish weapons
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>>147938304
any Perseverance weapons are viable, you just have to know how to use them decently
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>>147938304
It's not horrible, it's just not the best.
WA gives poise to smash fools into the dirt but it only works if your opponent is a dipshit
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>>147938050
Again, if I was after fair fights I'd drop a sign, they won't even go to smaller areas that they've cleared, I've had hosts halfway through the woods just go back to halfway fortress because lol, I wanna 1v1 you in a real arena.
Seed your world if you want, but don't be this boring.
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>>147938304
The WA is amazing. I'm considering investing into Attunement just for more WA uses.
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minor hyper armor for axes and maces when?
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So does Dark Souls 3 store its saves on the cloud? My xbox one is fucked, and I'm wondering if my save data will be kept when I drop my profile on the new one.
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straight sword with the longest reach currently?
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>>147938945
gotthards/lothric knight sword
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Is Lothric's Holy Sword viable at least as a sidearm in faith builds now that it has some scaling?
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What would be better, 40/20 for a dark sorcerer or 30/30? 30/30 gets me the best damage out of dark spells but 40/20 will let me also use normal sorceries in addition to dark ones.
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>>147938304
It's like a worse version of Caestus, because it doesn't have that ridiculous 950 damage perseverance l1 l1 running l1 rollcatch combo
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>>147939060
30/30 so you can use dark pyromancy also
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>>147938563
Yeah but you're a veteran souls player. Assume all hosts aren't.
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is the ISS any good?
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>>147939023
THIRTEEN PERCENT FAITH SCALING

>>147939060
I hope you mean in Dark Souls 2, because dark sorcery is dogshit in 3 and not even worth a respec to try
In which case 30/30 is the softcap, spice down the high req stuff if you want
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>>147939229
As much as any SS, really. Can't be buffed though.
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>>147939229
as good as a ladle
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>>147938906
i doubt it
ps4 is saved on the console unless you elect to back up online

>>147939023
nah, it's quality with a tiny bit of faith
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>>147939229
worst weapon ever
>40 dex requirement
>no scaling at all
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Where can I go break a weapon in 3?
I thought the statues in the cathedral were acidic but they only spit poison.
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>>147939630
>40 dex requirement
>no scaling

wot
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when can we go back to ds2
you know the game with actual pvp variety?
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So Pickaxe's galvanize lasts like 40 seconds now, is there a list of how long the other weapon buffs last?

>>147939229
No, not even if you use CE to make it Raw and thus increase the AR to like 400
Pros:
>it cools cool, especially on backstabs
>2hr2 does a fucking ton of damage and is the strongest move in the game
Cons:
>Lowest poise damage in the game, requires you to hit with your hand to have a chance of stunning anyone
>Mandatory stone ring, ring of blades, bracing knuckle, flynn's ring, you don't even get TDR
>Slower than any other straight sword in the series
>Uses more stamina than a zweihander
>2hr2 is really hard to hit and does half damage if you're too far away
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>>147939864
You keep using that word . . .
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I need some advice on World Tendency in Demon's Souls.

It's very difficult to get a clear answer on this. I've been searching for an hour now and I'm afraid to move forward since the only weapons I have left are affected by World Tendency.

I have killed all of the bosses in each world (except for 1-4, saving that for last and it doesn't affect anything I'm doing right now) and needed to do farming so each world is in Pure Black World Tendency.

I have a few events such as killing Scirvir in 2-2 for the Talisman of Beasts then going to Pure White World Tendency to get the Dragon Bone Smasher.

There are a few other scenarios in World 3, 4, and 5 that I have to kill a Black Phantom for a weapon then move the World Tendency to Pure White to get another weapon.

What I've been reading tells me that if I've already killed the bosses then jump into the world in Soul Form and kill the Primeval Demon (Colorless Demon) then kill the Black Phantom in that world without going to the Nexus. I did the math and that would take me from -4 PB to +2 WT, I don't think I'll make it to +3.

Is it possible for me to abuse farming Primeval Demons to get a possible +6 by using the exploit to farm them? If I recall correctly you would get next to it and smack it until near death - get summoned and kill it picking up the drop, and upon returning to your world from the summoner's world it should still be there. Since I'm not going to the Nexus to "add" my change to World Tendency I'm not sure this would work. Plus, I think that as soon as you kill it the shift in World Tendency is immediate.

I am about 7 weapons away from getting the Soldiers Trophy as I am going for Platnium. Unfortunately I had wanted to get the stone grinding done in this playthrough thus I'm at Pure Black World Tendency for all Worlds except 1.

If someone could shed some light on this it would be much appreciated.
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how do i play ds3 in borderless windowed
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>>147940056
-windowed -borderless and -sw launch options.
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>>147939952
>>147939630
what the fuck are you tards even talking about
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>>147939981
If you kill the Prime Demons, all the named black phantoms, and the last boss, it should take you back to PWWT
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>>147935725
>Didn't one of the early screenshots also show the player creating a bonfire by shoving a coiled sword into a dead NPC?
It was literally the entire marketing of the game. Remember when they invited streamers to E3? they had a whole statue set up of the Unkindled with the sword in the corpse, and blood would shoot out of it occasionally.

the very scene is IN the starting fmv. where he drags the corpse and puts the bonfire sword in it.

and the promo video for the cursed greatwood takes place at night, which is a feature not present in the final game.

its very clear that DaS3 got fucked just as bad as DaS2 with major mechanics and certain setpieces and areas having been cut entirely. there's a reason DaS3 is so shit.

I dont know why they removed it. it doesnt seem hard to balance.

Im getting the feeling that that mechanic is the reason that bosses drop bonfires. if you go entirely without making bonfires, then the game behaves like DeS, where there's one at the start, and then the boss drops one. But, inbetween, you can set up your own bonfires.

fucking imagine
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>>147940194
Sorry, thought you were talking about a better game
No, irithyll straight sword is just a sub-par straight sword with absolutely nothing different about it except less damage and frostbite that doesnt ever activate
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>>147940194
Faggots thought you meant Ivory Straight Sword
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>>147940194
They're talking about this piece of shit
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>>147940409
I forgot that garbage exists, I really wanted to use it for a cosplay but it's straight shit
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>>147939229
It's better than the MIR at least
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>>147940339
>DS2
>better game
damn yous funny
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>>147940480
>those stat requirements.
I wish I could use it on my twink.
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Doll > Fire Keeper > Emerald Herald > Maiden in Black
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>>147940592
Bonfire>all
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>>147940495
>MIR

???????????????
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>>147940592

Laurentius > Anri > Benhart of Jugo > Ringfinger Leonhard
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIQ5FDlw3cQ

axe
buffs
when???????
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>>147940686
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>>147940835
When From realizes that making fast weapons statistically superior to slow weapons was a bad idea
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>>147940727
>no Orbeck
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>>147940835
Are you actually unironically watching this ?
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>>147940727
Those faggots have nothing to do with each other.
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>>147940278
Are you saying it'll take me to PWWT for all worlds?

My list for what I have left to do is this:

World 2 - must kill Scirvir in PBWT for the Talisman of Beasts then retrieve the Dragon Bone Smasher w/ PWWT

World 3 - Kill Rydell with PBWT to find phosphorescent pole.

World 4 - Go to Patches' pit with PWWT to find makoto.

World 5 - kill selen with PBWT to find blind. find istarelle with PWWT in 5-1 and kill garl vinland in 5-3.

Killing all PD, BP, and the final boss in World 1 should take everything back to PWWT?

I am I misreading what I've been looking up or will it really take me to +3. It looks like I can only get up to +2.
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>>147941028

Aw, fuck. I'm sorry.

He's a solid second place.

>>147941089

husbandos
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>>147941221
You forgot Biorr
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>>147941039
when you really think about it, Dark Souls pvp is an awful lot like Street Fighter
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>>147940727
You like smelly old men?
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Does multiplayer not work for 1.08? It tells me to restart the game and nothing happenes
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>>147941039
>only good pvp player left in dark souls 3 that's actively making content
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How fast is the dancer skip? The video I found takes around 7 minutes of walking but I just want a direct path.
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>>147914030
>playing ds2
>game is pretty shit but pvp is my favourite out of the 2 games
>use dark bandits greataxe while fighting in ratbro convenat
>everyone is using alvas armor or drangleic armor with fuck all dark resistance
>doing 600+ hp per attack
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http://www.mediafire.com/download/7x77gcz3c9n9bct/Dark+Souls+III+Cheat+Detection.zip

reminder to run this in all fight clubs now so we can see cheaters
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>>147941350
>any of those men
>old
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>>147941298

Revisions:

Laurentius > Orbeck > Biorr > Anri > Benhart > Leonhard

>>147941350

No, but I do like Laurentius. He doesn't seem that old.
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If an Undead were to die of old age, would they respawn as a young man, or as the old crusty fool who just kicked the bucket?
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>>147941117
Pure Black is - 4
Pure white is +3

Killing a name BP is +3 towards white
-4 + 3 = -1
Killing the P. Demon is +3 towards white
-1 + 3 = +2
Killing a boss is +1 towards white
+2 + 1 = +3

The trick is you can't go back to the nexus after you start back to white, else the world reloads and the BP or P. Demons disappear.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/world-tendency
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>>147940835
>loses to carthus shittery
>"he's a shitty version of me"
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>>147941761
I don't think they can die of old age
They just eventually become horribly shriveled, constantly shaking old farts like Yoel
How undead age is probably a better question
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>>147941461
if you do it right the first time it's only like 3 minutes of work

took me a bit to find an exact height and place to reload though
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>>147941557
>- Scott
come on now
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>>147941557
thanks for the buttcoin miner
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>>147941845
I'm starting to understand now.

When you say killing a boss - this could be any boss in any world, correct? I was under the assumption that WT was specific to just that world.

It looks like killing Old King Allant would be the last thing I need to do to get that push.

I don't think I have much room for error. If you could walk me through my plan of attack here that would be fantastic.

1. Collect PBWT items first in Worlds 2, 3, and 5
2. Kill PD in a world and walk through to find the BP and kill them, THEN return to nexus to the next world.
3. Once all PD and BP and killed go to 1-4 and kill Old King Allant.
4. Return to 2, 4, 5, in Soul form to find remaining weapons.

Would this be the only way I can pull this off?

Also, I'm assuming that I cannot die in Soul form once I'm at the last part of this or else I'll fuck it all up.
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Oi, where you off to!?
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Why does From nerf massive ultra weapons you can dodge on reaction for literal weeks but leave shit like the card captor as is. I thought Japan liked massive, comically sized weapons.
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>>147942482
Whoa - I meant to say Body form not Soul form.

If you could clear up if I need to be in Body form for Step 4 or not that would be great. I'm not sure if I have to have PWWT and be in Body form for the WT events to occur (items show up all worlds, vinland in 5-3).

I've been reading the wiki for days now and I'm starting to fall apart after being in this for so much time.
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What are some underrated pvp weapons?
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>>147942959
>underrated
>almost every shitter uses it because of it's crit modifier and counterpokes
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>>147942032
the guy was using the exact same armor he uses normally
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>>147942820
From noticed that people like when the better looking weapon is the bst in the class. Like it or not, CCS is the best looking CS, meanwhile, it's quite obvious Fume is so ugly it should be have GS damage so as to discourage it from being used, so they nerfed it to open space for the better looking UGS that are AGS and PUGS.
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>>147943029
I hosted a pontiff FC for three hours and only saw one guy use it in a stream of washing poles, sakuras, and bkgs

He went for a 10 win streak and only died when some cheeky cunt surprise plunge attacked him
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>>147942482
World Tendency is world specific.

So basically, you do all the crap you need to for world 1 in PBWT. After that you kill Executioner Miralda. Then you kill the P. Demon. Then you kill False King Allant.

That will take World 1, and only World 1, from PBWT to PWWT.

I am not 100% sure if you can die or not, but I would suggest avoiding it after you have shifted. That's why I said go after the BP first. They are the only things that are a threat, so killing them first removes the threat of fucking up. The P. Demons don't fight back, and the bosses can't just disappear.

After that, just go back and do the PWWT stuff, just know the same holds true. Don't go back to the Nexus once you start that stuff. For example, killing the body for of Miralda in PWW will shift you back towards black.

Once you have dine all that, just go repeat the process in the other worlds.

Good luck with that asshole, Satsuki, by the way.

>>147942873
Avoid body form at all costs when trying to shift back to PWWT.

>>147942959
I have been shilling that weapon since launch.
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>decide to browse reddit out of boredom because downloading shit and don't want to play online
>see this
I love this community
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>>147943513
>So basically, you do all the crap you need to for world 1 in PBWT. After that you kill Executioner Miralda. Then you kill the P. Demon. Then you kill False King Allant.

I think I am fucked then. I've already killed the final bosses in 2, 3, 4, and 5. The farthest I could get in those worlds, from what it looks like, is +2 which would prevent me from getting the Dragon Bone Smasher in 2, Makoto in 4, and Istarelle and Bramd in 5.

Does that sound about right?
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>>147943717
link thread
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Is it possible to get ring of the evil eye without doing the whole yoel/yuria thing? Like can I just do anri and horaces questline? I need to get the ring but I don't want to have to use yoel because im sl 120 and I'd like to stay there.
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>>147943717
>>decide to browse reddit out of boredom because downloading shit and don't want to play online

The joke here is you.
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>>147943921
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4rwvzz/understanding_matchups_or_why_you_cant_always_win/
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>>147916196
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>>147943953
yeah, you can even skip the horace garbage, just talk to her, dont tell where horace is and keep going, at the church of yorshka she gives you it
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>>147943829
You could try playing online and hoping it becomes pure white.
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>>147944081
thanks
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>>147943973
I'm so ashamed.

>>147944081
She gives it to you early if you kill Horace and tell her he's down in smoldering lake.
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>>147943829
Yeah, if you already killed them then you are kind of fucked until NG+. You are supposed to leave the arch demon of every world alive if you want to get PWWT and PBWT in the same playthrough.

IIRC, WT caries over between NG+ cycles, so if you play offline you can get to +2 then the first boss of world 2 through 5, respectively, would get you to PWWT.
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is the greatshield of glory worth it with its minus stamina recovery?
What other Shield + magic shield combinations could I use to get 100% immunity and no stamina loss?
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>>147944127
Getting all the PBWT items then going online to default myself back to 0?

I can't remember what the server's tendency is right now. If someone knew that would be great to know. I'm playing the NA version.

I've considered it. I'm not exactly sure how I'll manage it.

The rules are that I have to defeat an invader, right? I've already finished 2, 3, 4, and 5 so I don't think I'm able to get invaded. Is it possible to be summoned and defeat an invader to change my own WT?
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>>147944309
Black Knight
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>tfw Vig gouge is dead
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>>147944308
>Yeah, if you already killed them then you are kind of fucked until NG+.

This is a shame. Only 7 weapons away from Soldiers trophy. Would my last resort be completing the PBWT items I can get now and having the last 4 traded to me?
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>>147940727
Patches > all
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>>147944309
No. The greatshield of glory's penalty is too high and you don't need the stability.
Black knight shield is the most common choice because when it runs out, you still have a great shield.
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>>147941461
If you're still here. This is a MUCH faster route and it has a good margin for error


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Ex_lhPBb8
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How many people here who farmed for the blade of the darkmoon miracle actually use it?
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have fun while it lasts
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>>147944878
oh yeah, that is my second choise atm.

How is the greatshield bash WA?
Is it useful in fights?
I just thought I might miss out on that.
It looks really cool and feels strong atleast.

I could imagine it is useful to counter onislash, interrupting incomming thurst WAs etc.
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where's the best early game area to grind for souls in DaS3? I don't see any obvious areas like the dragon bridge in DaS1
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>>147945112
Dancer.
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>>147944821
You could trade for them or just go to NG+ while disconnected from the internet, which would probably be quicker at this point, considering how old DeS is. I don't think I even have my save file anymore, just as an example.
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>>147945041
6 hours.
I just wanted the achievement
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>>147945112
co-op grind cursewood with silver serpent ring
~5k per win
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>>147944878
>>147945089
oh and secondly.
Magic shield is 60s.
Greater magic shield (for the black knight Shield) is only 30s.
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>>147945041
I farmed it my pyromancer by accident so I only use it when I savescum into other builds
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>>147945089
I've actually had some success at countering over-eager halberd users with it.
It blocks AND gives you 50% damage absorption, meaning you can tank crystal soul spears with ease.

If you can predict an attack coming, it's a free hit.
It doesn't do much damage and doesn't have that great tracking but it's not likely to get you backstabbed.
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did they fix the pontiff skip using tears of denial?
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>>147945238
>farming
>by accident

?????
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>>147945041
I did for ds1, as it turns a measly +15 good scaling weapon into an atomic bomb in melee form

I did for ds3, for the achievement
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What is the leg armour that I occasionally see phantoms wearing that gives you THICC thighs?
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>>147945360
I went to NG++ so that's 6 ears right there. Then I actually kept getting summoned as a dickmoon for like 15 ears. Then I actually got an ear drop on the stairway of farming so I figured I might as well finish the job.
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>>147945564
stop posting this shitty art please
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Why are whites always better summons than golds?
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>>147945161
I did a little bit more reading and it looks like I can abuse PD's by invading with the Black Eye stone and achieve PWWT by killing PD right before I'm sent to their game.

At the very least I have to get this trophy during this playthrough before I can start on miracles, spells, and rings in additional NG+.

I'll give this a shot and see what happens. First I need to collect weapons offline in PBWT and go online to abuse the PD respawn.

Thanks for all of your help!
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>>147945041
I've never farmed it. Got it legit way on almost all of my characters because for some insane reason i'm in a high priority for dorkmoons despite having a relatively old account. Never even checked how it looks like because i despise buffs and wish them gone from the series in a traditional sense. Bundles are much more interesting and fun to use.
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>>147944934

Are the controls while in wisp form supposed to be fucked up? I got the skip but for some reason my character movements in it were all janky and constantly going where I didn't want save for rolling, which got me where I needed after properly timing them.
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>Playing Eleum Loyce DLC
>Get invaded by NPC
>Look for it
>Can't find
>Ages since bonfire
>Go up to chest
>NPC invader uncloaks and flattens me with a greatsword from behind
>Try to get back
>Die immediately
>75,000 souls gone
And that's when I deleted my level 128 character and stopped playing Dark Souls 2.

Fucking game stretches on way too long for no fucking reason. It's not good enough to justify the length.
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>>147945606
How the hell did you reply so quickly?
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>>147945704
Yes. Death screen skips have something comparable to bad top-down controls
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>>147945747
That's one of my problems with DS2. Sure, it has a lot of content, but it's a BAD content. I don't think i ever did five legit playthroughs before starting heavy CE usage for my builds because it was a horrifying slog. And DLC changed literally nothing, if anything they made it an even worse boredom fest.
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>>147945747
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>>147945769
by reading the thread
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>>147940675
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>>147946436
bonfire > all
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>>147946436
levelup girls aren't ever the best girls of their games anyways
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>>147945747
NPC invader uncloaks and flattens me with a greatsword from behind
>Try to get back
>Die immediately
>75,000 souls gone

By the time you're in the DLC, the souls don't matter anymore.

>he doesn't use the Soul protection ring.
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>>147945664
Happy to help; it's been awhile since I had the chance to talk about DeS. I would be interested to know if you do manage to find anyone to invade after all this time.
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>>147945564

Is this Dancer?
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>>147946436
DaS has 3 (three) keepers better than any level up girls.
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>>147943717
>self-proclaimed pvp expert claims top-tier weapon is bad because *theory duel*
Seems par for the course, really.
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>>147941327
The lack of self-awareness makes this new generation of youtubers fucking hilarious
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>>147946436
Bonfire-chan is the best level up waifu.
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>>147944934
Thanks anon, I shall use this for hosting. Hopefully the DLC entry point isn't located at the archives.
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>>147946710
Seems to be
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>>147946618
>>he doesn't use the Soul protection ring.
I stopped caring about death for the most part and was zombie-ing through the game and just swinging my weapon, so wearing that wouldn't work. I had a moment of actual interest and care, but the enemies in Eleum Loyce are among the worst enemies in the entire game. Highly resistant to magic. High poise. Bullshit attacks out the wing wong. And there are like 500 of them. And they just keep coming. The same 3 enemies. Over. And over. And over. More. And more. And more. No interesting fights. Lazy maps. Uninteresting visual design.
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>>147946541
Maiden in Black is my feetfu, though.
Then Miralda is my one true love and Mephistopheles is the second best.

I think Karla might be better than Fire Keeper in DS3, but that's probably because of the porn.

DaS2 best girl is Shanalotte, Chloanne or Lucatiel.

DaS best girls are Rhea and Dusk.
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>>147946436
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>>147938821
Maces have HA on their R2s, charged and uncharged
Axes have HA on their charged R2s, both normal and warcried.

The core problem with both of these weapons isn't a lack of HA, its that they have a slow and extremely limited moveset with no reach or rollcatch ability, on top of having shit damage. All the HA in the world wouldn't help axes when they still consistently lose trades to straightswords.
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>>147947214
What armor is that?
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>>147947109
Also, Dark Souls 2 suffers from a serious case of me not giving a shit. I cared more about Kirk than I do about any of the NPCs in Dark Souls 2. And then the DLC added a few dozen nonentities that exist soley to emulate online co-op and PVP despite being twinked to fucking hell.
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>>147947214
>Rhea
acceptable

>no Quelana
unacceptable

>Dusk
triple unacceptable
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>>147946917
>Bonfire-chan is the best level up waifu.
Well, it makes sense that she's the hottest one.
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>>147947380
waifu artist modified silver knight armor
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>>147947371
Hyper Armor would help maces and axes because they're faster than Ultra weapons and can combo R2s, while Straightswords don't have hyper armor and would lose the trade when they get stunned while the mace user connects the second hit.
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Does OWCS stack with pontiff's eyes?
Thinking about caestus hollow quality.
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>>147947891
very gud
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>>147947891
Yes, Beacon does as well
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>>147947891
I think it only works if you have it active in hand.
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>>147948213
NO
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>>147947891
Yes, it all stacks
325 is pretty low though, I get 350 with 40/43 quality, is Mugen still not updated for the caestus buff?
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>>147946436
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>>147945769
predictive counter, git gud
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Is there any reason why I wouldn't be getting any action as a SL20 +3 blue sentinel sitting at Undead Settlement?
I remember doing the exact same thing last month with good success, now I can't get even a single summon.
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>>147948281
It's actually 360, mugenmonkey is outdated.
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>>147948373
Literally irrelevant to the point where many players never encounter her and don't know she exists.
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>>147948567
And 417 with full bonus from the eye and the sword.
Which gives it AR of some longswords with blindingly fast DPS.
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>>147948567
>35 points of Luck for 13 points of AR over 40/40

ehhhhh
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Gotthards roll L1 when?
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>>147948694
and the range of micropenis
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>>147948742
literally every duel at pontiff
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>>147948570
>Literally irrelevant to the point where many players never encounter her and don't know she exists.

And yet she's still better than the others. Amazing.
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>>147948742
>mfw fighting a "lady maria" cosplay using fire gotthards and hacked 99 in all stats
>L1 to L2 combo killed my 40 vigor character
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>>147948373
>anastacia
ayy lmao
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>>147949428

That can't be her face...
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>>147949428
I uh...
I wish not to speak.
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I can see why people are complaining about invading in this game.

I ran into a guy with 2 white phantoms, a sunbro, and used the item that turned the enemies on me.
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>>147949896
Nobody is complaining about invaders.
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>>147948562
Please respond, might have to throw away two hours of work.
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>>147950012
invaders are complaining about ganksquads
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>>147950148
It's just a bad draw of fate. I get plenty of summons at SL120 now instead of nothing
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>>147949896
>waaah I tried to shit up someone's game with my unwanted presence and got told the fuck out like a little bitch
Don't come here for sympathy you fucking pussy
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>>147950282
I'm retarded and sleep deprived, don't mind me.
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>>147950476
The problem is that people aren't manning the fuck up.
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>Oh hey wallyworld's got buffed
>try it out upgrade it a bit
>It's still d/e/d scaling at +4

Why?
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Is changing character names with CE safe?
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Also, why the fuck dies it take forever to get summoned as a blue guy but can invade no problem?
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>>147948373
She imbues the chosen undead with the dark sign. She cursed the chosen undead to the curse of constant torture, not a waifu.
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The top five things wrong with DaS3 PvP and why I'm playing DaS1 now
>Lack of meaningful roll breakpoints and little incentive (beyond multiple weapons) means Vitality is a dump stat
>Too many i-frames for builds that don't deserve it, no incentive to stay really light
>Health diminishes too soon and too hard, and 2k health would break the single player game
>PvP is designed around the idea that people will only get hit twice, any "exploit"/combo longer than two hits or manages to proc bleed within two hits fucking breaks everything
>Refined > Sharp > Heavy, even on fucking Strength weapons
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>>147950640
Because +5 is C/C scaling
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>>147951028
That's still garbage.
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>>147950980
and i can make a long, fuckhuge list of things wrong with ds1 pvp which are far more dire and gamebreaking
so what?
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>>147950640
At +5 it basically has the exact same overall scaling as a claymore, but with faith instead of dex.

It's still kinda mediocre because the moveset is trash and reach is stubby, but damage-wise it competes with the best quality greatswords.
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>>147951085
533 ar says otherwise
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>>147950980
At first I thought you'd whine about poise or ganks but that really sums my thoughts too.
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>>147951451
Greatsword says otherwise.
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>>147947245
Setz is the best fucking artist.
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>>147949498
>>147949642
characters have always been ugly in souls games

bloodborne has a few decent ones

thank From for using some shitty models from like 1996
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>>147951648
>still hasn't done anything for 3
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>>147947891
>OWCS
>mfw I read that as OICW
>Ultra Great Assault Rifle, parrying impossible
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>>147951216
The fact that there's more wrong with DaS1 doesn't mean it's worse than DaS3. DaS3 has nothing interesting going on. DaS1 has physical scaling magic, working glass cannon builds, the Large Club's 1HR2, Ninja flipping (that is earned by using 1/2 of the ring slots that you have, whereas you'd get a similar effect for a fourth while also having Hornet and two other rings), 95% Magic Resist GMB, a miracle that casts WOG when met with R1 spam, Regen builds that work because you can hit more than twice, as well as functional Strength builds, Dex Builds, and Quality builds that have their own specific weapon types for them. Fuck, even DaS2 has some shining spots over DaS3. Remember when people unironically used the Broken Straight Sword?

You'd rarely ever see people trying cool shit in DaS3. At least the other games have it.
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>>147951574
What does it being a greatsword have to do anything about its scaling being decent?
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>>147951216
The thing is, those in 3 incentivate passive play far more than other games, it was bad enough but it made things even worse.
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PC Bloodborne when
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>>147952208
N
E V E R
V
E V E R
R
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>>147952174
It should have better scaling to make up for being in a garbage weapon class.
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>>147952201
passive play was incredibly strong in EVERY SINGLE SOULS GAME, ds3 passive play is nothing compared to passive ds2 spinning
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>>147951921
what the fuck is going on with that gun, anon
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>>147952094
>Remember when people unironically used the Broken Straight Sword?

You must've missed that whole thread when someone got buttmad over someone owning them with a broken straight sword a month back. Now that was pathetic
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>>147952290
Pretty sure we're comparing 1 to 3.
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>>147952282
DONT TEASE ME

IT WILL HAPPEN

IT ALWAYS WILL
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>>147952208
Going by Valkyria Chronicles and MGS, most likely in roughly five to eight years as a remastered version.
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>>147952409
Just like the Demon's Souls port happened, right?
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>>147952409
>sony owns the rights
>ever allowing an exclusive to release on another platform
Just buy a Bloodbornebox4 already.
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>>147952478
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

goddamnit you're right
im just gonna play DS2 again
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>>147952432
Can't you simply emulate every MGS bit 4?
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>>147952514
>just give in and keep making exclusives a thing
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>>147952323
An assault rifle and a small grenade launcher rolled into one gun. They chopped the assault rifle part off and made the XML out of it, then abandoned that and make the HK416 out of the leftovers. The grenade launcher is being investigated as a squad weapon for busting open cover with intelligent grenades that explode over trenches and after flying past walls.
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>>147952289
As much as I agree with that sentiment. It doesn't negate that Wolnir's got a legitimate buff in its scaling for the better.

Now if they could just make its WA not an objectively shitter Morne's Rage
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>>147952514
if i start justifying the purchase of a console for one or two games (last guardian is happening, right?) then i'll just find myself buying whatever the last couple Nintendo consoles were and also the NX for the new Zelda

if i start i wont be able to stop so im sticking with my PC and PS3 thanks
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>>147952290
Passive play was weak in DeS because everyone had 99 instant full health items, second chance, and faith build could regen 18HP/sec.

You had to deal massive damage before your opponent had a chance to grass, or any damage you did would mean nothing.
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>>147952290
It's actually much worse.
Spinning was the calling card of a shitter that was bad at pvp. It wasn't effective, it was just easy to do. Good players didn't spin, and good players facing one another was extremely aggressive. Passive play against a competent player was basically just giving them chances to rollcatch you for free, because there weren't any good ways to punish pressure unless they made a blatant fuckup.

In 3, every good player plays passively, because passive play is the objectively strongest playstyle. Unlike 2, aggression is weak and easy to punish even without blatant mistakes. Playing passively just straight up gives you an advantage over everything else, and whoever acts first is always disadvantaged over the person that waits.

2 washingpoles facing off in 3 is even more passive than estoc turtling was in either previous game.
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>>147952650
>>147952323
*XM8, sorry, and pic related is the current evolution of the grenade launcher.
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>>147952623
I'm not advocating it. I'm just saying that's the way things are.

Sony holds all the cards and they have no reason to release one of their exclusives on another platform. It will never happen.
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>>147952094
>DaS1 has physical scaling magic
As well as DS3.
> working glass cannon builds
As well as DS3.
>the Large Club's 1HR2
Not it's GREAT Club's 1hr2 and it's godly at roll catching.
>that is earned by using 1/2 of the ring slots
Given a shit amount of good ring in DS1 and ability to easily minmax 31/37 poise setups with a free ring it doesn't mean anything, at least bloodring gives very heavy defense reduction.
>95% Magic Resist GMB
Which also lasted 30 seconds so i would just roll around a bit.
>a miracle that casts WOG when met with R1 spam
Meanwhile all DS3 offensive miracles are good against R1 spam.
>Regen builds that work because you can hit more than twice
????
Are you actually implying that DS1 had anything that could be considered a regen build?
In that case i'm laughing in your face.
>as well as functional Strength builds
As well as DS3
>Dex Builds
As well as DS3
>Remember when people unironically used the Broken Straight Sword?
Outside of one meme video? No.
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>>147952589
MGS3 emulated is bad.

Thankfully GZ and MGS5 are great games. I don't even miss MGS4. I'm buying a PS4 by Christmas for DS3 DLC+Bloodbore, but I don't even want MGS4.
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>>147952329
The DaS3 Broken Straight Sword has no actually viable characteristics, that dude must have gotten memed on, but link me that thread mate I wanna see that salt. Meanwhile the DaS2 BSS R1 consumed less stamina than an attack in Morrowind. I'm using two of them right now for my playthrough. It enables a relentless playstyle where you just don't stop coming. The Paintrain of the infinite stunlock R1L1R1 is done, yes, but it's still worth using. While DaS2 suffered from an inflated weapon choice with reskinned weapons with slightly changed stats, plenty of them were unique and fun to use.

Meanwhile, DaS3 axes are a joke.
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>>147921145
Wooden Great Hammer. I wanted to be DDD so bad. At least there's Smough's Hammer.
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What's a good infusion for the Partizan? Usual ol' quality, or is there any fancypants elemental infusion that does well with it?
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>>147953017
everyone is so cute
i wanna fugg the maneaters
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>>147952902
Then don't play it. The sooner people stop buying exclusives, the faster they stop being a thing.
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>>147953238
>>147953238
>The sooner people stop buying exclusives
speaking of things that will never happen
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>>147953032
>DaS2 was harshly criticized for lacking moveset variety and recycling too many attacks
>DaS3 has even less moveset variety
Poetry
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>>147953017
>No Penetrator's armor set
>No Pursuer's armor set
>No Dragonslayer Armour redundancy set

I will forever be mad. FOREVER!!!
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>>147953380
DS3 actually has way more moveset variety. DS2 fell so low they were reusing generic animations even for uniques and fucking DLC weapons.
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>>147953238
That will never happen. It's part of what keeps competition going. The only people that want exclusives gone are PC peasants, because it will just let them pirate the games more easily.
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NEW THREAD

>>147953410
>>147953410
>>147953410
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>>147953017
how the fuck is there no Souls anime?
obscure Korean shit get's 2 cours
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>>147953238
>Then don't play it.
Nah. I've got disposable income and my choice to play or not isn't going to matter.
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>>147953238
Exclusives improve the overall quality.
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>>147952946
>As did DaS3 (had physical magic
Where's the Manus Catalyst? Where are the catalysts that scale with physical damage? Where's the black magic that eats through magic resistance (such as GMB) because it isn't actually magic damage?
>As did DaS3 (have working glass cannon builds)
Don't imagine it's easy to sustain Power Within, and you need faith in order to get Tears of Denial in order to proc the RTSR and Morion Blade. DaS1, your health didn't change from your world to theirs, meaning you could invade with RTSR active.
>at least bloodring gives very heavy defense reduction
That doesn't really balance it when you have 35 pounds of something with all the iframes of a fast roll for you to put on good armor and negate that.
>Which also lasted 30 seconds so you would roll around a bit
When there's weapon buffs that rely on magic damage, it's very beneficial that they lost their time and benefit from it. Not to mention that if someone is using Tin Crystal Cat, they'd lose their pursuers if it was cast first.
>Meanwhile all DS3 offensive miracles are good against R1 spam
Only when you read it, making it effectively a Faith scaling generously timed parry. Karmic Justice punishes R1 spam, even against an imperfect shield, and forces them to back off and let the timer cool down.
>I'm laughing at your face
Take the Server, Replenishment, and Sanctus, and you've got something that can trigger people to try to fight the regen. Meanwhile, you can't even proc any of the "if attacking persists" rings in PvP unless your opponent has brain damage.
>As did DaS3 (have functioning strength or quality builds)
Don't you mean a Quality build? A Quality Mace does more damage than a Heavy Mace. A SHARP MACE does more damage than a Heavy Mace. Quality makes those two things useless unless you're using a weapon that everyone can just roll past all day. Part of why the Large Club's 1hr2 is relevant at all is because it's fucking lightning and can quickly deadangle someone.
cont
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>>147954335

>>147952946
>Outside of one meme video? No.
Nigga fuck you. I fucking love the utility of the low stamina usage it has. It allows me to keep fucking going. See this post I made here >>147953032 . A weapon used by "only hollows" was fucking useful. Holy shit. There's plenty of bad balancing going on in DaS2, but this is one of the things that shines. DaS3 is completely unnoteworthy. There's nothing really cool about any weapons in DaS3. They're dull. The game is dull, it's easily taken in ways it shouldn't, and it has a very rigid, defined experience.
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>>147954335
>Where's the Manus Catalyst
Left in DS1? DS3 still has magic that deals physical damage and you're fucking kidding yourself if you think that anyone used manus catalyst to begin with.
> it's easy
Who the fuck said it's easy? Glass cannons always were a gimmick builds and they are still gimmick builds in DS3 although they actually allow physical glass cannons to not die in one hit thanks to the tears.
>That doesn't really balance
The fact that they lose any trade balances them way better than DWGR in DS1.
>When there's weapon buffs
Well good thing weapon buffs were unviable as shit against good players without a need in GMB then.
>Only when you read it
Which makes it not only better than karmic justice (which did zero damage outside of one specific setup only suited for twinking) but more skill-based.
>Take the Server, Replenishment, and Sanctus
Why would i take the worst curved greatsword? Why would i take one of the worst medium shields? I will never reach the same level or regeneration DS3 provides me on regen setups anyway.
>you can't even proc any of the "if attacking persists" rings in PvP
You can with paired weapons actually.
>Don't you mean a Quality build
No, i mean 66 str and 27STR/60 dex builds using uninfusable equipment like yhorms or chaos blade that benefit from them. But you've never heard about them, right, retard? It's always easier to get a mouth full of fresh memes instead of experimenting with builds.
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>>147953376
Because of attitudes like yours
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>>147951872

Quelana is beautiful.
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>>147955424
>DS3 still has magic that deals physical damage
What spells? Never heard of any spell worth talking about that deals physical damage. Dark Bead is "Dark" damage, one of the most unnecessary additions of DS2 to be honest.
>And you're kidding yourself if you think anyone used manus cat
I do, faggot. And I bet you'd think I'm memeing if I said I use Dark Orb too, and it works because they think it's the faster-cast Dark Bead.
>The fact that they lose any trade balances them way better than DS1
But they also have a Hornet Ring and the Knight and Blade rings for their Quality Carthus Sword build and Caestus.
>good things buffs were unvaible as shit against good players
"Good," as in "unwilling to fight anyone with a buff?" "So bad they need to wait for the buff to end to kick someone's ass?"
>(modern miracles are more skill-based and stronger)
Why not let's keep the strong command counters, as well as weaker, utility auto-counters? Why not have two fun things?
>Why would I take the worst (things when) I will never reach the same level of regeneration DS3 provides
Because you don't need a "useless weapon buff" or use one of the least interesting and lowest tier weapon classes (greathammer, axe) to get the benefits, while also using one of the most devastating weapon classes for trades.
>You can with paired weapons actually
You can with the very weapons that break the system of DS3's two-hit system that breaks everything else as a result.
>But you've never heard about them, right?
Because they're fucking shit and requires fucking serious thinking to compete with someone who knows spacing with a straightsword.
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>>147957065
>What spells? Never heard of any spell worth talking about that deals physical damage
Play more.
>I do, faggot
I don't care about you. Magic in DS1 was extremely unviable to begin with, and given how horrible manus catalyst by itself is, it was never worth using.
>But they also have a Hornet Ring
Irrelevant, nobody gets parried in high tier DS3 pvp.
> Knight and Blade
Those two are the sign of a bad build.
>"Good," as in "unwilling to fight anyone with a buff?
"Good" as in "having a hard counter usable by any build"
>Why not have two fun things?
Because DS3 is a different game with a different set of miracles and entirely different balance of miracles.
>Because you don't need a "useless weapon buff" or use one of the least interesting and lowest tier weapon classes (greathammer, axe) to get the benefits
You don't need to do it in DS3 as well. But you don't know shit about viable DS3 regen setups, right?
>break the system of DS3's two-hit system
There's no such system actually. Just an r1 spam restriction.
> requires fucking serious thinking to compete with someone who knows spacing with a straightsword
Actually a proper CB dex build is way stronger than any longsword setup.
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>>147957743
>Play more.
No seriously, fucking enlighten my uneducated ass. It's not Gnaw, is it? No, I've used that on my Evangelist build. Oh god, don't tell me, it's those fucking "Deep Soul" sorceries, isn't it? Oh god, those are shit, makes for a good fucking joke.
>magic in DS1 was extremely unviable to begin with,
Who the you play with, Shycass? People have always bitched about black magic. People STILL eat Dark Bead in DS1. People fall for Dark ORB in DS1. I don't care about you if you're a flowchart using shitter. Win or lose, I'd only want to fight you once.
>Nobody gets parried in high-tier PvP
Only if it's CCS mirror matches. Assuming your previous statement, I assume you are.
>Those are signs of a bad build
10 Free points for Vig while meeting Quality stats.
>"Good" as in "having a hard counter usable by any build".
So "boring" then. You're why I'm back playing DS1.
>Because DS3 is a different game
And it's different in the wrong ways and it's worse off for it.
>You don't know shit about decent DS3 regen setups, right?
Your words are just words until you prove me wrong, you know, but let me guess; Sun Princess and Replenishment? Enlighten my feeble retarded mind, if you're any smarter.
>There's no such system, actually. Just r1 spam restriction.
The game was built around only being able to hit an opponent twice. Any more would fucking break shit. See; Spiked Mace Spinbash, One-Combo Bleed Builds, etc.
>A proper build is better than any longsword setup
Build-wise, it's got higher damage, health, and all that, but moveset wise the longswords have katanas beat and if you don't notice that then what the fuck have you been doing with your life.
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>>147958695
>No seriously, fucking enlighten my uneducated ass
If you don't know what class of miracles does physical damage it's impossible to enlighten you.
>Who the you play with, Shycass
Actually good players, not that fucktard.
Only complete retards ever whined about magic, it's a rollstab bait of highest quality.
>Only if it's CCS mirror matches
There's so many reliable parry counters in DS3 that nobody. good. gets. parried.
>10 Free points for Vig while meeting Quality stats.
At the same stat investment you could have strong buff to stamina regen, extra 200 hp, leo counters and other shit, 10 points are nothing.
>So "boring" then
Viable
>And it's different in the wrong ways
Compared to DS1 tards, fans of a game with an extreme amount of heavy design flaws.
>Your words are just words until you prove me wrong
Google anri's straight sword, for starters. Then chime WA. Then the fact there's 3 regen miracles in DS3. Then reevaluate your life a little.
>The game was built around only being able to hit an opponent twice
With an r1. It also has a shitton of other true combos.
> longswords have katanas beat
Katanas are one of a few classes that can hard counter straight swords.
Play more.
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What's good level to have my endurance if I want to rely on spellcasting for PVE and not bothered for PVP (on ng)?
I set it at 28 for melee before and was fine.
I'm leaving stats at base, except one point in dex for longsword. I'm guessing 15 since it's not too low or too high. I'm trying to not use shields either.
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>>147959375
Dark Miracles don't deal physical damage, which I know because I've used them. Hexes deal Dark damage. Are you talking about the miracle of dead angles? Because I'm fucking stumped and your stranged, warped ego allows you to act superior while not feeling good enough at the game to beat someone who has a buff on.

Magic is only rollstab bait if you're shit. I've fucking set up backstabs with point blank Dark Orb.

So, instead of getting parried, people run around and backstab? Hornet's good there, too.

Viable != Boring.

Because DaS3 is flawless, it's a bland piece of boring shit. It didn't try to do anything cool and suffers for it.

Nice triple buff for your regen build, have a Duel Charm in the middle of your last one.

All those "true combos" fucking break the game, if you had read my full sentence. It's unjustifiable that Perserverence is the only way to escape an instant 1400 damage once you've been hit once. It's obvious you don't actually care who I am and just want to win an arguement instead of come to an agreement on something, so I know you didn't.

A good shield counters katanas.

Play a decent game.
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Anyone have a guide to a Hex build in DaS2 for PvE?

Is it even viable?
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>>147960232
>Dark Miracles
Not them.
>Magic is only rollstab bait if you're shit
It's always a rollstab bait. The entire casting animation is rollstabbable easily.
>backstab
Holy shit you are clueless about DS3 pvp.
>Because DaS3 is flawless
Indeed.
>Nice triple buff for your regen build
You only need one and even a passive regen from offhand blessed caestus, ring and anri's sword is more than enough.
>All those "true combos" fucking break the game
No they don't, especially after nerfs.
>A good shield counters katanas.
Katanas are one of a few good shield counters in a game. Especially buffable with bleed.
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Do we know when the DLC is coming out yet?
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>>147960368
Hexes are great all around, except in the DLC areas. Because they scale with two stats, they scale harder. If you're willing to spend souls per cast (which due to Soul Memory you might not want to), you get some of the fastest, strongest spells in the game. They also have some fun hexes like Numbness. It's just hard to build up because of the huge investment required. It's a hard start, but worth it in the end.
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>>147960584
Spiked Mace comboed for 1k once. It got nerfed so it's not a "true combo" anymore. 2Kat bleed combos for 1400 with one less button press than the Spiked Mace combo. Is that somehow not breaking the game?
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>>147960690
September senpai

dragonslayer spear 1h r2's + the 25 lightning miracles was the funnset playstyle in das1

why did they have to ruin it
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>>147961639
No it's not because it's not 1hko and game expects you to heal at any opportunity.
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>>147961810
>it's not 1hko
So I *HAVE* to have more than 1400 HP to PvP in DaS3. The builds are so homogenous that it is universally agreed upon that 2Kat does not oneshot. Also, the fact that 2Kat does 95% of the health of most builds at 120 while Spiked Mace was nerfed into irrelevance is not broken.

I stopped playing DS3 months ago for a reason, and you are it. You deserve to eat that shit.
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>>147962197
>So I *HAVE* to have more than 1400 HP to PvP in DaS3
This is how it always was.
If you don't have HP your build is shit.
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>>147962325
Which, as I said WAY BACK when I said things were fucked in DaS3, I said that the game was designed on having this little pool of health. Maybe, in a strange world where 2300 HP was possible, 1k damage with two button presses from a katana would had been acceptable. But since that's not the case in DaS3, PvP at below SL100 is a joke, which it was not in the previous games, and only at 120 do people manage to have enough health to survive "true combos" that are just things that manage to break From's desire of everything only hitting twice.

DaS3's PvP is shit and you've grown accustomed to it.
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>>147963397
>when I said things were fucked in DaS3
It was the same since des. If you don't have softcapped health stat your build is shit in pvp. Optimal HP in DS1 is 1980. But judging by a pic of your "character" you're just an ez frag for any good character anyway.
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>>147963546
>any good character
you mean build
you have no character
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