/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>147855774
fpbp

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reminder for rightful borders

Hey guys, let's talk about videogames

>>147855774
HE'S FAST

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Reminder that this should have happened to France in 1815 instead of what happened to Germany in 1918.

>>147855916
Butthurt already arrived.

daily reminder that l'Empereur only declared war on a country once (that means one (1) time)

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First for Kaiser

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reminder for rightful borders

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>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01*°
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5*
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>>[V2] Liquor and Bureaucrats Mod 1.2*°
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ r1s3v3z0d17ctya/liquornbureaucrats.rar

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin*
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

* The R&I will sperg out if you download this
° Alex da Silveira and his Grandi Youth will harass you if you download this

Reminder that unHPM is the arch-enemy of HPM.

Reminder that the autist who controls the thread replaced DH with HoI4 in the OP and left EU Rome, the game that nobody plays anymore in.

>>147856025
t. Louis

>>147856083
lad..

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16th for historical waifus.

>>147856130
based cobra

>>147855909
Trianon (and all the dead Serbs) was literally the only good parts of WW1

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Reposting from last thread for those who didn't see:

>>147855115
Ukhuna Khan, the Khan of Khans and nephew of Botokhui Borjigin, has launched an invasion of Jerusalem to seize the lands they hold on the Khanate's border, in the Kingdom of al-Jazira. He mimics the same action that was undertaken by Jamugha Khan thirty-six years earlier, when a young King Aubry broke the armies of the Horde on the mountains of the Caucasus.

Boto is ecstatic.

"I've no doubt you'll show that little pissant why my people call you Khanbreaker," she gushed as she helped him into his armor. "Jesus Christ above, two victories over the Khan of Khans in a single lifetime! They already call you Khan Aubry; I wonder if they'll soon refer to you as Genghis Khan Au--"

"Boto," Aubry spoke gently, "I haven't won yet. This war will be dangerou--"

"Bah!" Boto spat, "you've the help of the Basileius to look forward to, and your personal levies too, which I know you've groomed like a mother cat. I know you'll defeat him.

"Just don't kill him," her smile turned vicious. "I want to be there to see him bow to you, O Khan of mine."

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Grandi Youth purge when?

>>147856025
2, Russia and Spain lad
but they both deserved it

>>147856338
I don't really play ck2
is that enough gold for mercs for this?

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Best borders ever

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Anyone have something memier than this?

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>>147856623
I disagree :^)

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Get me an even comfier country lads

>>147856425
As soon as /leftypol/ is gone

>>147856748
can you really GP as them without blobbing?

>>147856425
As soon as /pol/ is gone

>>147856615
Absolutely. An average large mercenary company costs 200 to hire and about 35-50 to maintain per month. With ~5000 in reserve I can maintain two large mercenary companies with no real worries for an extended duration.

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>>147856220
>mwfw (my waifu's face when)

>>147856425
as soon as /vg/ is gone

>>147856220
who is this slut

>>147856648
>The French Revolution wasn't an act of nationalism

>>147857179
>WE WUZ SELF GOVERNING AND SHEIT
>nationalism

>>147856130
HPM actually hates unHPM?

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>>147856864
Yeah, and it wasn't that hard at all. I did conquer Zulu and release it as a satellite for though so I got some research points from doing so. Civilized a couple of years before 1860 IIRC, just when the British sphered me.

>>147857387
Yes he even made unHPM rename his mod at one point iirc because it was too close in name.

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>>147856338
As it turns out, the Kingdom of Jerusalem was not destined to receive help from the Basileia Rhomaion. The old Emperor, Nikephoros IV Branas, died just as the war with Ukhuna Khan began, leaving Aubry's son-in-law Andronikos II in control of the Empire. Yet Andronikos--as is predictable for a Byzantine succession--is faced with significant rebellions, and in spite of their alliance will not be able to provide troops. Jerusalem stands alone.

Nevertheless, the war must be fought. Aubry hires mercenaries--the Rus Company, which he has grown to rely upon over the years, and the Swiss Band for their excellent pikemen--and begins the long trek north to Diyar Mudar, where he expects the Khan of Khan's forces will show themselves.

Surely enough, the first of the Khan's forces appear at the fortress of ar-Rabha not long after Aubry's forces make the difficult trek from Antioch to the interior, and Aubry, with the help of Princes Aubry and Baudouin, fights and defeats the first Mongol army to touch Jerusalemite soil in thirty-six years.

>>147857154
Alexandra of Denmark, Princess of Wales and future Queen consort of the United Kingdom.

>>147857609
Salo or the 120 days of gomorrah lad

>>147857715
>>147857724
sounds like some degenerate ass shit

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imagine a future Paradox game where you can commit amphibious landings in Kazakhstan

>>147857783
triumph des willens

is that the answer you wanted

>>147857387
No, HPM doesn't give a fuck about him. Even helped him several times when he asked for help
This is part if the false flag the steamgroup does, unhpm made the mod to create some drama around hpm

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>>147857609
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

>>147857609
Zulu

>>147857838
Stop giving the retard actually good movies

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how do I colonize the new world now?

>>147858096
Nukes and firebombing

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>already beat a containment war after i got up to 50 infamy taking every spanish/french african colony + alaska
>now i took columbia from usa

oh boy this game

>>147857609
Not you again.

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The Venezuelan crisis of 1895 is proving to be more of a bitch to deal with than I hoped for, especially considering US intervention, the possible results and arbitration.

It's a little more complicated since the events will happen to any country that own British Guyana (expect for Guyana itself) and it also takes in account the crisis being about Gran Colombia and not Venezuela.

Anyway, in the meantime I made a few more things. Made sure South Peru actually joins Peru after the PBC ends, made so Immigration Quotas is now a new world only policy that slightly reduces immigrant attraction but it reduces core pop militancy and discouraged the US from sphering everyone in Asia and Central Asia. Except for Japan and Siam, anyway.

>>147857821
>Middle East/Anatolia nearly unchanged
>Northern Germanic/Baltic lands get Shrecked
It's a cruel world we live in

>can't play a western tech cunt in EU4 without autistically colonizing the Caribbean at the start of every game

Is there any possible way to justify not doing this aside from being landlocked?

>>147858287
I like this America
To bad you can't install a Hapsburg on the Mexican throne and Aryanize Hispanic lands in this game, would be the cherry on the top.

>you can't install a Hapsburg on the Mexican throne and Aryanize Hispanic lands
You think installing a habsburg on the throne would do what 300 years of colonialism didn't do?

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>>147857493
The Battle of Deir al-Zur was Aubry's greatest victory, his "entry into immortality" as one of the best commanders the world had ever seen. In spite of his victory in the first Mongol invasion--which had been fought against a much more powerful Khanate than the one he fought now--much of those victories were rightly credited to Svietislav the Bulgar, in a conflict where Aubry was not the chief commander, but merely a minder of the flank. At Dier al-Zur, Aubry was in full command.

Shortly after the Battle of ar-Rabha, Aubry and his forces took up a position behind a river, with flat terrain to their back and gently rolling hills in front of them, perfect to slow any Mongol advance. Aubry positioned the Siwss Band and whatever pikemen were left over from his own forces on the rear of every hill to pin the Mongol riders as they crested them, then assigned light infantry and skirmishers behind the pikes to cover their flanks and rear. His main forces (especially his cavalry) he held in far reserve, with the expectation that the Mongol forces, once they had finally ridden past and encircled the hill defenders, would be vulnerable to a crushing attack.

The battle occurred exactly as he had expected it to, and the initial force of 20,000 Mongol riders and levies had been firmly defeated... when 2,000 more appeared, with 15,000 after that, and another 10,000 from the flank. The Mongols, in spite of their earlier losses, considered breaching al-Zur and forcing Aubry's forces back to be worth any potential expenditure of life.

Aubry devastated them. It was worse than slaughter; Aubry's forces lost almost nothing, whilst the Khan of Khan's forces lost almost everything.

The Battle of Deir al-Zur would be taught alongside Manzikert as one of the most skillful victories in medieval warfare, and although as time passed the focus would change from the genius of Aubry to the incompetence of Ukhuna, Aubry's incredible prowess cannot be wholly discounted.

>>147858451
>and discouraged the US from sphering everyone in Asia and Central Asia

how do you do this? asking for personal modding reasons.

also, new version WHEN?

>>147858227
But I don't want more Aryan lives to be lost in this endless war!!

I might be bombing the South though

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>>147858451
Why the fuck haven't you fixed this HPM?

>>147858781
Dank

That's my nigga

inb4 he dies during intense love making with Boto to celebrate

>>147858874
>But I don't want more Aryan lives to be lost in this endless war!!
That's why I'm telling you to bomb them to shit instead of invading them.

>>147856338
Genghis Khan can't be used with a name.

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>>147858465
yes, but if the sealevels drop, Europe benefits a lot (water stored in glacial ice)
that's what you get for the Eurasian plain

>>147858743
The upper class of Mexico has always been hu'white, anon.The main reason Mexico is as shit as it is today is explicitely due to US interventionism to keep them down. It's the only reason the first Hapsburg in Mexico was ever ousted to begin with, actually. If the US was a less influential power such as in anon's timeline Mexico would've ended up like something closer to Argentina, at worst.

>>147859067
It was my understanding Genghis Khan merely meant supreme ruler. I don't know the Mongol language, though, so obviously I couldn't be sure.

Just another minor inconsistency, I suppose.

>>147857493

HAIL THE KHAN-BREAKER!

>>147858781
What the fuck is going on with the mongols and why the fuck are they fielding so much melee cavalry and fucking infantry

>>147858451
please make a decision to send the African Americans back to africa as it was a historical possibility after the end of Slavery

>>147859370
Fuck off back to /pol/

>>147859330
They declared war on me three and a half decades ago and I wiped out all their invasion troops, which is where the vast majority of their horse archers come from.

>>147858781

LEGENDARY BTFO

>>147859370
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmFSR2E4sCY

>>147859301
I thought Genghis/Chengis/etc was his given name, Khan means something along the lines of King, and Khagan (Which ended up being pronounced as Khaan) meant Khan of Khans, which was Genghis' title.

>>147859429

Fuck you, /pol/acks can enjoy GSG too; /pol/ is board of peace

>>147858451
Is there any way to change Japan's units to that of the generic Asians post-1860? I don't like seeing Samurai until 1900.

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how

>>147859578
>/pol/ is board of peace
Does anyone unironically believe that

>>147859429
t. /leftypol/

>>147859509
No, his given name was Temujin. Genghis Khan just means "Supreme Ruler," it was a title that was given to him when he united the clans.

>>147859607
That border is very kawaii

>>147859656

/pol/ loves all un-repentant cucks and minorities! They just need to pay their tax!

>>147859447
It still pisses me off so much.

>>147859509
No, his given name is Temujin.
Genghis is usually thought to mean Oceanic or Global but it might also have been derived from the Chinese 正 which means something like "rightful", "just", or "correct" or even 政 which means something like Government and is also the name of the First Emperor.

>>147859607
>Austria annexes Krakow
>becomes KuK
>crisis over Krakow
>France backs Krakow
>France wins the crisis before war happens
Literally just this.

>>147859656
/pol/ is as much a board of peace as islam is a religion of peace

>>147858840
You reduce their starting relations and influence level.

I don't know, I still need to deal with Ethiopian states not forming Ethiopia because they are dirty poor and refuse to go to war.

>>147858918
It's vanilla and it's hardly important. Something more important and that's wrong is the fact that guards are a Napoleonic-era unit, but still needs to be unlocked. Or the fact that the tree ends in "Modern Divisional Structure" when that's not a light armament and everything before that was about armaments.

Would you rather it be Semi-Automatic Rifles or self-loading rifles?

>>147859370
The back-to-africa movement is on the plans, but it's complicated as I need to decide fail conditions and the target needs to be fixed (where they go).

>>147859589
I will probably do a unit change for "flintlock rifles" or another tech, so when they get that it changes, but I need to add a whole "class" of units for all countries to be pre-flintlock rifles, so it's not going to happen soon. It will happen in the future.

>>147859805
If that was the case only the city would be liberated, what caused that were polish rebels

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>>147858781
Following the disastrous losses at the Battle of Deir al-Zur, the Mongol forces retreated into Sinjar, desperately hoping to link up with the 10,000 survivors of the battle of ar-Rabha to once again form a united force which might, if they were lucky, be mighty enough to face down the still-unified forces of the King of Jerusalem.

They were not destined to be so lucky.

The force from ar-Rabha had already swiftly retreated from the field, and the army that arrived at Sinjar, in spite of containing most of the leadership of the Khanate, was nevertheless left isolated and vulnerable.

King Aubry pounced upon it as a lion would its prey.

While the actual Battle of Makisin is underwhelming, its aftermath is not: Aubry personally captured Ukhuna Khan in the midst of the battle, and his son Prince Aubry managed to catch Aqa Khutula attempting to flee the field. Alongside Aqa Alagh, who was captured after the Battle of Deir al-Zur, Aubry now holds approximately half of the leadership of the Mongol Khanate in chains.

Originally, Aubry had no intention to bring Ukhuna to Jerusalem to... "converse" with Boto, but now that Ukhuna was in chains and at his mercy--and, of course, now that the war was effectively over because of it--he decided to grant his wife's request to see the Khan of Khans bow before him.

Packing up his camps, paying his mercenaries their parting fees, and setting Ukhuna Khan and Aqas Khutula and Alagh ahead of him, he begins the long march back to Jerusalem with his prisoners.

>>147859878
>(where they go)
Into the Atlantic.

>>147859878
ok, Liberia is a reasonable target

>>147859878
>where they go
Liberia plus offers for Brazil and Morocco in a slave selling deal? Maybe some for the Caribbean and Sierra Leone as well.

>>147860052

based

>>147859878
>where they go
Liberia

>>147859878
>Would you rather it be Semi-Automatic Rifles or self-loading rifles?

Just move the activation date back to 1885, as that's around the time when the first "modern" bolt-action rifle entered service.

>>147860109
I know, but moving pops to foreign countries is kinda buggy. Shit moving them inside your own country is usually troublesome. It worked well in Turkey, so that's really the lesser problem.

>>147860116
You won't sell them as slaves as the african slave trade is banned.

>>147859878

They goto Liberia mate

>>147859878
>Something more important and that's wrong is the fact that guards are a Napoleonic-era unit, but still needs to be unlocked. Or the fact that the tree ends in "Modern Divisional Structure" when that's not a light armament and everything before that was about armaments.

Do you have any plans to re-haul the Naval and Military technology trees after you've finished with the economy?

>>147860260
I won't. Having just one tech of the tree activating earlier would kinda fuck the unlocking-date pattern.

>>147860375
Yeah, I kinda wanted for land units to make more sense. I don't know when I will do that though.

>>147860301

Then add an option to Restart the slave trade for 30 infamy.

>>147860052
Now this is some next level stupid shit.
Also AARnon, I hate to do this but here >>147858781 you made a few mistakes describing the tactics.
Rolling hills in the front and plains behind is terrible against the composition the Mongols had, and your idea to pin the Mongols in the front then smash them from the rear once they tried to flank is unlikely to work seeing your crushing ranged and cavalry inferiority, your only advantage lies in your infantry and pikemen but the fact that you were back-to-plains means that you'd likely have been flanked and encircled by their cav. Your pikemen with light infantry and ranged support sounds well and good, but mongols charges started with their horse archers zig-zagging and splitting, not their melee cavalry mounting an actual charge.
tl;dr you'd have lost if you tried those tactics.

are signal companies any good in HOI4?

>>147860460
wew

>>147860301
>african slave trade is banned.
Atlantic slave trade, I meant.

>>147860460
It's not that simple. Enforcing any of these things involves a naval supremacy, which involves bases over the Atlantic, a bigger fleet and the cooperation of other countries as well as movements inside your own country.

It will probably never be an option, as it wasn't economically viable, especially if your goal is selling the US slaves.

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>>147860052
The arrival at Jerusalem is akin to a Roman Triumph of old. Peasants, nobles, priests, knights and pilgrims alike throng the streets to catch sight of the Khan of Khans bound in chains, marched on foot before the horse of Aubry, while Aqas Khutula and Alagh are marched before the horses of Princes Aubry and Baudouin just behind him. Cheers of greeting, cries proclaiming the glory of Aubry and his sons, curses at the lack of faith and dishonesty of the Mongol Khan, and prayers thanking God for the safe return of the soldiers of Christ mix together as Aubry and his eldest sons make the slow march to the royal palace.

When they arrive they find Botokhui resplendent, informed far ahead-of-time that she would be playing hostess to her nephew, the Khan of Khans. At first she is calm, kissing Aubry fiercely and hugging her sons tightly, begging everyone to enter the palace and be comfortable once again.

That she does not once look at Ukhuna, or speak to him in their tongue a single time, is all that alerts Aubry that this is nothing but a careful act for those nobles who still throng around the victorious party.

After several more agonizing hours of nobles and hangers-on being dismissed, their party venturing deeper into the palace as it grows smaller, finally they are left alone: Ukhuna Khan, Aqas Khutula and Alagh, Boto and Aubry, and Princes Aubry and Baudouin are all that remain when they arrive at the antechamber before Aubry and Boto's bedroom.

Boto rounds on Ukhuna and begins to scream.

1/2

>>147860301
Why can't you contest britain on that?
Get a whole coalition together, portugal, oman, brazil, just whoever has slavery

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>tfw Mega Campaign Lad will never finish what he started

>>147860642
>The arrival at Jerusalem is akin to a Roman Triumph of old
You mean the Triumphal March?
>Boto rounds on Ukhuna and begins to scream.
Best waif is angry~

what should a "modern" (post-1945) infantry division look like in HOI4?

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>>147860642
2/2

Aubry and his sons are left with little to do other than smile as Botokhui screams at her nephew at the top of her lungs. None of them can understand a word she's saying, but judging by the stunned Khan of Khans and the wide eyes of his Aqas, she's being quite rude.

Her tirade continues for almost fifteen minutes, with Ukhuna alternating between attempting to regain control of the situation (and being promptly shouted down) and pleading with his aunt. Eventually, Boto whispers something to Ukhuna, and his eyes shoot wide. His Aqas, too, gaze between one another in clear bewilderment, and when Ukhuna protests, Boto whispers a threat which, even to Aubry's unknowing ears, sounds quite menacing.

Slowly, and with great reluctance, Ukhuna Khan kneels facing Aubry, bows his head to the ground, and says one word: "Khan." Boto looks on, smiling wide, the entire time.

After Ukhuna has been released and a heavy indemnity paid to Jerusalem, Boto would reveal to Aubry that she had threatened to have him castrated if he did not bow to Aubry's superiority. "He does not know that isn't done here, of course," she said nonchalantly, "but it was good incentive, don't you think?"

She smiled again. "Anyway, once the Aqas have been ransomed, the stories they will tell of the Khan-that-bowed... well, Ukhuna will never again have an easy time of leading the tribes."

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>>147860642
>Boto rounds on Ukhuna and begins to scream
PANIC

>>147860826
>None of them can understand a word she's saying, but judging by the stunned Khan of Khans and the wide eyes of his Aqas, she's being quite rude.
>your waifu learned god-tier french and court customs for you but you didn't bother to learn any Mongolian
Shame on you

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>>147860826
BASED
A
S
E
D

so do you just fill every hoi4 division with all the support units?

>>147860429
>I won't. Having just one tech of the tree activating earlier would kinda fuck the unlocking-date pattern.

Alright then, changing the tech to "Light Machine Gun" would probably work for 1900.

>>147860642
>>147860826
I move for a vote making Boto /gsg/'s waifu

I ask for someone to second my motion.

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>>147860612
tf HPM will never buff the CSA and allow them to claim the Golden Circle
tf you'll never form the golden circle
tf the South will never rise again

why even live?

>>147860826
>"He does not know that isn't done here, of course," she said nonchalantly, "but it was good incentive, don't you think?"
Pretty sure castration wasn't a punishment for the mongols either.

>>147860673
I explained it here >>147860612
If I was capable of checking who has a more powerful navy and made you lose that contest if your navy budget goes below 90%, or if ships patrolled seas or could be made in privateers, sure. But to add something a country can "keep" without enforcing hegemony over the Atlantic, with a smaller or in complete disrepair navy sitting down somewhere, it's not really worth it. I'd rather leave it as is. Not to mention one of the least economically viable things the US could do is to spend all their money and piss a lot of people just to sell some slaves in Morocco.

>>147861032
Could be, though I still think Semi-automatic rifles are more important.

>>147860612
I've never played turkey/ottomans but I've always wondered if you put the switch to latin alphabet in

>>147861107
Those are some nice looking cores.

>>147861085
Rudely Agree x1

>>147860551
IT'S AN AAR I AIN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT

No, thanks though, really. I was wondering when I was writing that whether that would actually work or not, but I wanted to make the victory suitably grandiose so I decided to just roll with it.

Keep in mind that the Mongols didn't have many horse archers by this point (and I knew that, or else I wouldn't have suggested it at all) and that the battle began with over 35,000 Jerusalemite forces against just 20,000 Mongols (so they were grossly outnumbered and reinforcements only arrived after they were already almost defeated), but I take your point that skirmishers probably couldn't have held the flanks long enough for my own cavalry to charge.

>>147861123
Probably not, but that's the point, isn't it? She's threatening him based off of his lack of knowledge of French customs. He doesn't know they won't cut his dick off unless he bows, and because the Mongols don't do it either he'll have to think the French are pretty goddamn crazy people.

>>147861107

>muh free cores on all of Central America because a few Southern autists talked about it

wew

>>147861107
>cores on literally all of central america, caribbean and in colombia and venezuela
>0 infamy
>not a single dixie living there, no historical claims at all
>0 infamy
wew

>>147861107
blobbing into Latin America

gee I wonder why HPM won't add it?

>>147861281
>Keep in mind that the Mongols didn't have many horse archers by this point (and I knew that, or else I wouldn't have suggested it at all) and that the battle began with over 35,000 Jerusalemite forces against just 20,000 Mongols (so they were grossly outnumbered and reinforcements only arrived after they were already almost defeated), but I take your point that skirmishers probably couldn't have held the flanks long enough for my own cavalry to charge.
Right okay that makes sense
The Khan is an idiot in this case imo so whatever.

Anyone know why NF's tend to stop working after a certain period of time for uncivs in HPM?

I'm playing the Sikh Empire and clergy promo tends to cap at around 1.79%. Not sure why because I've got education spending on max.

>>147861297
>>147861337
>>147861345

I'd say get the cores for like 50 infamy, so you have to fight off international coalitions to keep your gains

>>147861218
No. Language is barely consequential in the game, because of the mechanics, and the only time I represent it for tags without written language.
What would it do?

>>147860612
hey hpm, how about making a decision for japan for the development of south sakhalin after 1900? i know it's late game but it's kinda important actually

based source: http://etheses.lse.ac.uk/1072/1/Ivings_Colonial_Settlement_and_Migratory.pdf

it has pop data, natural resources, everything.

>>147861107
It shouldn't cores but maybe only some causus beli's

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>>147861107
If only alternative modders like unHPM weren't branded as shitposters and shunned and could be more active, we might have already had a mod with Golden Circle, Nigger deportations, Iberian Union, Germanization of Benelux and so on along with the generally good changes all in one by now

>>147861426
That's still retarded
There's not even proof people wanted this
>inb4 someone posts the least sourced Wikipedia article

Not to mention its still free cores for no reason at all

>>147861337
>>147861281
it takes 7 infamy to take the decision autist
t. general sherman

>>147861345
Because it's retarded

>>147861178
>Could be, though I still think Semi-automatic rifles are more important.

Yes, but semi-automatic rifles were never adopted in any major capacity until World War II with the exception of the RSC 1917.

>>147861502
You realize there are mods with all those right?

>>147861561
t. lee

>>147861548

desu I just love the memes; Any unserious modder want to make a minimod for it?

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>>147860052
>>147860642
>>147860826

fucking

B A S E D

>>147861665
Why haven't I heard of them then, me lad? And are they all in one package?

>>147861502
>unhpm had plenty of time to do any of this shit
>only added meme unions
>waaahh why someone who used his trip to shitpost was branded a shitposter, he would surely contribute to this even if he had the time to do it and didn't do
>any of these blobbing shit
>good changes
wew
Unhpm can barely do a mod that works

>>147861434
idk
flavor I guess
It just seemed to me a pretty big event, turkish not being written in the arabic script

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>>147856425

>>147861470
Why it is important?

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>>147860052
>>147860642
>>147860826

>>147861789
Because according to this general only HPM and robmod exist

>>147861548
>least sourced

I see at least 20 sources desu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Golden_Circle

>>147861805
>>147861502
it's a meme mod and some people just want to meme in game

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>>147860826
In spite of the great fun that Boto had screaming at her nephew at the top of her lungs, it appears to have taken something out of her. She sleeps longer, has less energy, and has even grown somewhat forgetful. Boto insists it's a passing ailment and not at all related to her confrontation with Ukhuna, but Aubry is not so certain. And even were he, he would still not be pleased; he hates seeing Boto without the usual fiery energy that has, for him, become synonymous with her nature.

Yet he won't leave her, that is for certain. If he must lay with her a little longer every day, what punishment is that?

>>147861502
I have some modding experience

It might be fun to do something like that, make a package for HPM that I update when it does, that just adds all these sort of questionably-historical/neckbeard/fun things.

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>>147861978
AHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT

>>147861808
Well, flavor still needs to have an effect. That's the thing.

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OK then lads what is the ultimate meme mod for memers like me

Is the 3.04 patch worth getting now for Victoria 2?

I heard it really fucks with the crisis system.

>>147861950

this, I enjoy historical acuracy, but sometimes I enjoy going full meme and do shit like restoring Byzantium

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>>147861107
You can actually get cores on all of that anon.
You see CSA gets cores on slave states in North America - which means annexed non-cored states still count. Sadly CSA political parties are utter shit.

>>147861978
She is dying lads ;_;

>>147861978
Wait
Is every single one of your daughters an Asian?

>>147862126
Full meme is restoring the Chinese Empire as a two-province minor named Qin.

>>147861434
A couple prestige (one way or the other)? Loss in literacy? Militancy/Consciousness?

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>>147861978
DELET THIS

>>147861932
None of which directly says what they wanted, how feasible that was or even if they thought it was realistic

It's sources for when they formed

I wouldn't doubt that this "golden circle" country is just an american myth
>literally hate spics and niggers
>I know, let's add more to our country, that seems like a good idea

>>147861978

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO; FUCK YOU AARFAG, WHY DO YOU DEVELOP THESE CHARECTORS SO MUCH I FEEL BAD WHEN THEY DIE REEEEEEEEEEE

>>147860962
>learning the tongue of savages

>>147862086
Mod Imperium

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>>147861978
>infirm
No
NO
STOP THIS MADNESS I DO NOT WANT TO FEEL AGAIN
AARNON WHY DO YOU ATTRACT DESPAIR WHERE IS MY HAPPY ENDING

>>147862232
They wanted to enslave them imbecile.The Knights of the golden Circle was created to bring more Slave States into the Union by annexing more land. Did you even read the article?

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>>147862129
And to refrain that picture is what cored land CSA got on Civil War trigger.

Here are the pops.
Also HPM refuses to do Homestead Act for CSA or something.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Homestead_Act_of_1866
>b-but it failed
>post civil war country in shambles
Yeah no shit

>>147861836
on page 34 you'll find a chart that shows the population growth while under japanese control. on 1905 it was around 12,000 and by 1935 it had grown to over 300,000 (!)

there is another chart on page 63 that shows its growth over 35 years compared to other settler colonies. In that span it was second in the amount of settler population, between australia and algeria.

seems pretty relevant to me even though no one pays attention to it

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>>147861978

>infirm at 45

>>147862063
>>147862142
>>147862230
>>147862301
>>147862410
Fuck off back to ṛeddit you autistic fucks

>>147862439
>Freedom of Womb
>Slavery Banned
kek

>>147862336
>not learning your wife's language when she put in the work to learn yours
Bad.

>>147862063
>>147862142
>>147862230
>>147862301
>>147862410
>>147862510
>>147861978
AARnon, this is evidence that you're actually a pretty good writer - you got people to care.

>>147862514
>only posts I approve of are allowed
>no emotion allowed
Alright.

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>>147862514
Here's your (You)

>>147862440
Now that this anon mentions it Australia gets really poor immigration quotas.
>>147862582
>Banning slavery as CSA
I also got no idea why HPM thinks this would happen if they won. They were scared shitless of black people having rights.

>>147862125
pls guys
i dont want to fuck my game up with a beta patch then have to reinstall

>>147862439
Nice. But why did you blob into the North?

>>147862510
The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long, anon

>>147862185
No, my youngest daughter, Usounbique, is French ethnicity.

>>147862142
>>147862230
>>147862301
>>147862410
>>147862510
I'm sorry anons, it's just the way the world turns. We had a long, happy run, far more time than Baudouin had with Eirene. And she's only infirm (-1 health) and has the benefit of martial education and being Strong (+1.25 health), so it's already balanced out and a little more by her traits. Unless she becomes incapable very quickly, she could still live a long while.

>>147862615
I know, I'm honestly very surprised by the response this time around. The Napoleon AAR was popular all things considered, but it didn't attract the kind of attention or feels this AAR has.

>>147862852
Its shit, dont use it

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>>147862863
Well i simply made everything into a slave state and cores simply happened there.

>>147862919
CKII has profiles to grow more attached to, perhaps?

>>147862514
>compains about autism
>on /gsg/

>>147862919
I think this AAR is much better, and much more developed compared to the Napoleon AAR.
You became a better writer overall as well.

>>147862919

Seriously, good job with your writing. You made me actualy care about these characters

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>>147862213
Changing scripts is hardly prestigious, loss in literacy and maybe militancy could be the only things that would maybe fit, but the loss of literacy especially can be frustrating.
I don't know, it's not really an important thing. Well except for the turks.

>>147862439
>Also HPM refuses to do Homestead Act for CSA or something.
Pic related.

>>147862440
Well, 75K pops isn't that relevant, but I see your point. I don't think the provinces can hold that though, considering the lowest rgo size is usually 40K. I will do something about it.

Anyway, I need to sleep. Good night /gsg/.

>>147862439
>Afro American 21.4%
>Mexican 11.8%
>Yankee 10.1%
>Afro Latino 7.3%
You better genocide them all out of existence by the end of the game lad

>>147863098
>>147863083
samefag

>>147863019
>all that clay
>not a gp

I bet everyone there is poor as shit too

union forever

>>147862434
>a minority enslaving a civilized majority
>across a big ass territory
Wew

>>147862919
You've definitely become a better writer, Napoleon was good but this is a full grade better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVEYcTyj1Do

>MRW Norse slowly fades and gets replaced by latinized cultures
>MRW Visgothic slowly fades and gets replaced by spanish cultures
>MRW Jerusalem falls and the christians become muslims

>>147863130
ayy your first reply in that screenshot is to me

>>147863149
Why the "Union"?
If you're white and not for the confederacy, you're a cuck.

>>147863140

Is it possible to samefag that quickly? /vg/ makes me wait a minute between posts

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>>147861978
Botokhui forced Ukhuna to bow to Aubry because she believed it would make him a truly weak ruler in the eyes of his vassals, and she was correct.

Not long after his Aqas return to their lands and inform their people that Ukhuna Khan bowed to the Khanbreaker and called him a leader, Ukhuna found himself beset on all sides by vassals and fellow clan leaders furious not only at his defeat, but at his willing humiliation at the court of the King of Jerusalem--and by his own aunt, no less!

Although the tribes stay faithful for the time being (they all swirl the corpse of Ukhuna's reign, eager to see if they can see the title of Khan of Khans granted to one of their own), many of Ukhuna's conquered vassals see the weakness implicit in his rule and take advantage of the opportunity to divest themselves from the Horde. With the tribes breathing down his back and refusing to offer him assistance Ukhuna can do little.

The Mongol Khanate has experienced its first major rupture.

>>147863293
t. newfriend
And no, guy is just being a douche.

>>147863293
I'm pretty sure it's 90 seconds and 120 if you post with an image
He's going to say something about 'mobile' though.

>>147863351
>and by his own aunt, no less!
It's time for /ss/

>>147863228
"The Knights of the Golden Circle (KGC) was a secret society in the mid-nineteenth-century United States. The original objective of the KGC was to annex a "golden circle" of territories in Mexico (which would be divided into 25 slave states), Central America, northern South America, and Cuba and the rest of the Caribbean for inclusion in the United States as slave states."

(Woodward, Colin American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America New York:2011 Penguin Page 207)

Put on back your trip please. It was meant to increase the power of slave owner's in the south. Of course if the CSA allowed Slavery they would want to expand their slave population.

>>147863351
What happened to Georgia?
Last I remember it stretched to Armenia.

>>147863270
Name a better film.

>>147863690
Show source or it dosen't exist.

>>147863782
Batman vs Superman

>>147863690
>(Woodward, Colin American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America New York:2011 Penguin Page 207)
>believing what wikipedia writes as a source
Show me the page and I will be convinced

> It was meant to increase the power of slave owner's in the south.

>annexing a civilized population that's bigger than you
>they get pissed as fuck
>everyone gets pissed as fuck with you for doing it
>increasing your power

>>147863130
Aight fair enough.
What about other colonies?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Land_Acts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Lands_Act


Also is it just me or colonies dont have emigration? Like trickle of servants and such to the mainland.

>>147863782
Cuckold

>>147863823
Southern Fillibusters happened even without complete US support, one even took over Honduras was it? With a intact CSA government that drive towards the south would have been much harder, at least on the Caribbean islands and Cuba.

>>147863782
The Fellowship of the ring

>>147863782
It's a wonderful life, Fargo, Rear Window, The Hole, Yojimbo, etc etc


Jesus fuck I can't stand fantasyfags. LotR is literally just as bad as capeshit

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>>147863285
>If you're not for importing niggers for slave labour and making sure to breed them so they're above replacement rate you're a cuck

>>147863962
He said
>Show source or it dosen't exist.
Nigger

>>147863728
The Kingdoms of Georgia and Armenia were inherited by a Russian-culture Rurikovich, which didn't sit well with the Georgian majority. They overthrew him and replaced him with a Georgian ruler, but his forces later forced that Georgian ruler to give him back the title of King of Georgia, so there are currently two claimants to both titles fucking each other up in the mountains.

Currently the Georgian ruler has the better of it, but who knows what'll happen over time?

>>147864105
That is actually a very interesting situation, I didn't know HIP was capable of generating that.

Is there a way to make dixie the only accepted culture as USA?

>>147864361
in HPM? No. Because it's not historically accurate or even likely to have happened

>>147863995
>Yojimbo
>that good
Fistfull of Dollars ended up being a better "fit" for the overall movie story.

>mfw Lucas Arts will never make a sequel for Outlaws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpPj200xMhU

>>147863962
>a guy with some mercenaries take a shithole devastated by war during a civil war
>gets BTFO'd shortly after by another small shithole
>this proves that the CSA would manage to hold all that land and enslave all those peoples, that overall have a higher population than them, and become a minority in their own country, no problems and no international or intern repercunti
>that proves they wanted that or that a reasonable amount of people would want that, that was a reasonable or even viable goal and that anyone with some diplomatic or political sense would try to do it

>>147864483
At least you were awake this time

>>147864483
Wow this is an informative post that contributes to this thread

>>147864483
how do I unsubscribe from your blog

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>it's another zeusless thread

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>>147863351
Predictably, shortly after Aubry's war with the Khan of Khans ended Andronikos II dragged the Kingdom of Jerusalem into the wars which were currently underway in the Basileia Rhomaion. Instead of being displeased, however, Aubry was quite happy: this provided an opportunity for Prince Baudouin to learn how to command an actual force in a situation with minimal danger to himself. And, happily, that is precisely what happened: Baudouin not only gained a great deal of renown as a commander, but his brother also taught him the more advanced techniques of swordplay that he failed to pick up from his father in his youth along the way. While Baudouin is still frankly no match for his brother Aubry, he is at least learning.

Unfortunately, however, there is always a dark side to events. Andronikos II, the Basileius that was Jerusalem's ally, was overthrown by his nephew Euphemios Branas, voiding the marriage pact and alliance between the two powers.

As Aubry and his sons march out of the Basileia Rhomaion, the bright light of a new age on the horizon flickers out and dims to dark once again--there will be no cooperation with the Basileius after all, it seems.

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>>147864483
At least it aint Australia anon.
>mfw spiders as big as plates

>>147864483
what video game?

>>147864770

how sad

>>147864772
kawaii

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Is UnHPM fixed yet?

>>147864807
>>147864768
>>147864764
I wonder what it's like to be around you people

>>147864772
>this qt will never enter your boipucci and tickle your rectum

>>147865116
I fucking hate this "hurr durr im a fagit" meme. IT'S NOT LONGER COUNTER-CULTURAL RETARD. Gays are encouraged on tv in case you haven't noticed.

>>147865093
Wow this is an informative post that contributes to this thread

how do I get into nomads in CK2?

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>>147865116
>>147864919
>meanwhile in Japan


So what is exactly Kaissereich team making for HoI4? Id assume mod is too big to adapt it properly on short notice.

>>147865093
There just seem to be four or so guys who are lurking here all the time that reply en masse to a shitpost of their choosing and then disappear again, they're very elusive

>>147865234
What are you talking about

>>147863903
Ok I know the book exists but I'm not going all the way s library to prove a fucking sperg like you wrong.

The fuck are you talking about There was a ratio of about 1:15 slave master/slave
ratio.

>>147864770
To Aubry's great surprise and the amusement of both Botokhui and Prince Baudouin, Ukhuna Khan sends a formal request to Jerusalem asking for a betrothal between his son and heir, Arkhai, and Baudouin's firstborn, Bourgogne. Predictably, all present flatly refuse the suggestion.

"Send our sweet little Bourgogne to camp in Mongolia?" Boto snorted. "There's no question of it; it won't happen. She's too damn brilliant for that fool nephew of mine, or any of his get."

"But it would be prudent to secure an alliance with him, for the sake of not having to embarrass him again," Baudouin replied with a smile.

"Hmph. Maybe," Boto answered dismissively. "Personally, I believe he needs it. But if you think you need an alliance with him... what do you think, dear?"

"It would be wise," Aubry answered carefully, "to avoid destabilizing the Khanate overmuch. They may be heretics, and Ukhuna might be a fool, but they are still Christians, whereas most of their vassals are not. If they collapse entirely and their Muslim vassalage is freed from them we'll be placed in as much threat as with the Khanate strong, if not more. I agree with Baudouin; we should ensure a betrothal."

"Oh fine," Botokhui huffed, "give me a quill and parchment, I'll send a suitable reply."

Although Aubry and Baudouin both knew the kind of reply she would consider "suitable," they both complied eagerly. The message she sent to the Khan read:

"Ukhuna:

As your Khan, I deny you the right to marry my granddaughter. You will, however, immediately announce to your vassals that your eldest daughter is to be married to my grandson and heir's heir, Aubry. Failure to make this announcement will guarantee an invasion of reprisal."

Ukhuna Khan made the announcement.

>>147865234
Homosexuality is a lasr-stand of implicit white nationalism

>>147865693
Wow this is an informative post that contributes to this thread

>>147865693
hahaha

Remember to report and ignore shitposting

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>>147865610
forgot the damn picture

>>147865460
*reply en masse with almost the same post

>>147865646
That's depressing.

Who did Tolkien base Elves on?

Finns?

Wanna do some epic roleplaying in ck2

>>147865919
Implicit white nationalist detected

Poland-Lithuania a nation that never existed in the 18th-19th century has more flavour events then the CSA. Unexcusable! Either get rid of the meme nations such as the PLC,the Arab Union and Turkestan. Or actually give relevant nations events. Tf is their even to do for the CSA to do except beat up on the US every 5 years?

>>147866015
What flavor events the PLC has?

>>147866015
(you)

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>147866015
>Poland-Lithuania a nation that never existed in the 18th century
wew
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth

>>147866015
Play a better mod

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>>147865976
Think he based them on Anglo-Celtic stuff from UK.
If you want to roleplay some weird stuff here you go.

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>>147865610
>Boto will die during your lifetime

>>147859279
>implying Mexico on its own would be better than Venezuela now

>>147866246
*19th*

>>147865838
Yet another victim claimed by yellow fever.

>>147866349
>Poland-Lithuania a nation that never existed in the 18th

It's written there
18th century

>>147866083
>>147866083

I meant Poland/Poland-Lithuania never exiisted in the 19th-20th century but whatever you understand my point.

>>147866015
arab union is not a meme. plc is though

>>147866563
Neither did Arabia ever but you can form them too.

>>147866563
The CSA didn't exist in the 20th century either
Shit it existed for 4 years
If anything the PLC is more of a country than the CSA ever was

>>147866616
Any attempt Arab self-deternimantaion was smashed in the Oriental Crisis after Muhammad Ali was defeated. Arab Union should not exist.

>>147865976
the script looks like arabic mixed with georgian, if that helps

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The only benefit of playing Poland with the DLC focus tree active is the option to form a faction with the Baltic states who are mostly useless and make it more difficult to fend off the Soviets by lengthening your border with them.
Other than that the Polish tree is simply a gimped version of the default with worse bonuses spread across more focuses.

So how do we make the Polish focus tree not shit?

>>147866563
So what about the flavor your claimed the PLC has more than the CSA
Show us
What's the number of unique decisions the PLC has vs the number of unique decisions the CSA has?

>>147866685
4 years during the fucking timeframe of the game

not to mention there was an expansion dedicated to it

>>147866827
the first step is to make the game itself not shit, then we can move on to those questions

>>147866798
But Mohammad Ali became muslim to avoid conscription.

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>>147865610
>>147865838
Botokhui has passed from conscious thought. Her infirmity did not grow better, only worse. One day she simply did not get up; a few days on she stopped speaking. The doctors can do nothing, for they do not know what ails her. Just as his father was taken from him by a sickness which sapped from him both his body and mind, so too does it appear that Aubry must lose his beloved Botokhui.

Yet her own body is much stronger than his father's was when he passed, and it might be that Botokhui's fate is to linger on, a drooling shell of herself, for several more years until the ailment finally seizes her fully.

As Aubry kneels by her side, he cannot help but wonder why this must happen to her. She is fourteen years younger than him, and yet she is the one afflicted first by the onset of old age.

"Oh, God, take me soon," he murmurs. "I don't want to live without her laughter."

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>>147866798
>Muhammad Ali

What the fuck does a 20th century boxer have to do with 19th century arab nationalism?

>>147865610
>Failure to make this announcement will guarantee an invasion of reprisal.
Based Boto.

>>147866898
There is more flavor for the CSA than the PLC, so I don't see what you are bitching about

>>147866987
;_;

>>147865234
+1

>>147865093
what video game?

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>>147866987
>"I don't want to live without her laughter."
Ah shit, that got to me.

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How can I turn Tranquebar into a Singapore-tier city?

>>147867274
>those pops
Did you get New World event on it or something?

>>147866827
>Poland is shit
Historically accurate tbqvqvqvqvqvqvh

>>147866987
Are all the men of the family cursed to become widowers?

>>147855774
>>147855908
>>147856016
t. r&i autist

>>147866987
All good things must come to an end.
;_;

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>>147866987
Profound sadness.

>>147867274
Build more loos

>>147867382
Germany's population is generally very angry, amazing for colonial migration

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>>147867382
I don't think so. I haven't played this save in a while but I don't think I did anything special

>>147867274
Take out the poo-in-loos.

>>147867036
kys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt

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>>147866987

>incapable at 48

>>147867512
So basically i should close borders and make sure everyone gets angry for colonial migration?

>>147866987

Jesus christ, are all men in this family cursed to get qt wifefus and then watch them die slowly?

>>147867382
Germany usually has very few colonies so transportation is amazing

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>>147867274
>tfw all I want is a game on Vicky's scale that simply focuses on demographic manipulation where you do things like this in complete detail
>tfw it will never happen beceause of political correctness and a lack of developer interest

>>147865093
Fuck off to >>>/soc/ if you want to make friends.

>>147867653
Does this mean Germany can make gigantic treaty ports in China?

Also once i turn colony to state will migration go up or down?

>>147865093
>come into a group that exists to talk about a very specific topic
>HURR SPIDERS XDXDXDXD
>wow why don't you guys want to talk to me :(((((((

>>147866827
Still surprised they went with Poland first and not China or even Spain tbqhwyfam

>>147867826
States get better migration in my experience, but people can leave. You don't get a shitload of pops, I've only got 55k in Tranquebar and I've had it for most of the game

>>147867595
That's ck2 for you
>>147867625
Germany is probably one of the only countries that can pull something like this off, when there is a large movement for reform and you need to reform select another reform instead for more militancy which results in more opportunities to reform, you know, typical stuff, also research techs that increase colonial migration.
Also don't get too many colonies

>>147867826
If you've got transportation, statehood will drastically drop migration

>>147867985
Don't forget about the 'close all your factories' meme

>>147867036
>>147866967

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt

Second most important Arabic Nationalist. He wanted to unite the Arabs under one flag and tried to rebel against the Ottomans. However he failed. Nasser was more successful as he btfo the Isrealis,frogs, and the bongs

>>147867081

>>147866839
>>147866083

Poland's files together are 22KB
CSA's is 20KB and I'm just going to count the civil war files as CSA files

>>147865976
I don't remember where the inspiration for the elves themselves came, but the two main elvish languages were based primarily on welsh(for quenya, the language everybody loves) and finish(for sindarin, the language spoken mostly by middle-earth elves)

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Who /KaiserKrusade/ here?

>>147866987
>"Oh, God, take me soon," he murmurs. "I don't want to live without her laughter."
Why

>>147868279
What a quality post!

>>147868131
A file has shit all to do with the amount of flavor a country has
It could be filled with shit commented out and would have a bigger size
Also poland isn't the PLC, so counting Poland flavor as "PLC" flavor is like counting USA flavor as CSA flavor

So tell me, how much unique flavor the PLC has versus the CSA?

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>>147868131
>btfo the Isrealis
But Israel is still there

>mfw in NWO you can ally yourself with Brits and draw them into Israeli war vs USA

>>147868279
t. autist

>>147868347
What a quality post!

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>>147866987
>incapable at 48
>due to advanced age or head injury, comatose
>48
>advanced age to the point of falling into a coma
I can understand infirm, sort of, although her Strong trait shouldn't really let that happen.
Is this the CK2 equivalent of 6/6/6 dying at 26 years old?

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>>147868131
>Arabic Nationalis
>muhammad ali, an albanian, was the second most important arabic nationalist
>before arab nationalism was even a thing
> He wanted to unite the Arabs under one flag
You can't possible be this retarded.

>>147868347
>>147868418
Not an argument.

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>>147866987
What God did not grant to Baudouin V, He has granted to King Aubry. After one year of watching his wife suffer, he dies peacefully in his bed, with never a sign of illness or even of advanced age having troubled him. King Aubry was known in his lifetime under the epithet "the Brave," but history will remember him as the Mongols did, with the epithet "Khanbreaker."

While he did not significantly expand the borders of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, and while it could be argued that his actions led to the slipping of the Kingdom of Aegyptus from the dynasty of Aleramici, it cannot be argued by anyone that Aubry was not the saving grace that protected the Kingdom in its hour of greatest need. Later historians would rightly point out that Aubry was not the best King Jerusalem could have had, and that he made serious mistakes in the course of his rule, but that he was absolutely the greatest commander it could have had, and, at the time, that was what Jerusalem needed.

By the request of his father (the last order of Baudouin V to be obeyed on Earth), Aubry was buried next to his mother in the crypt beneath the royal palace of Jerusalem, now officially the resting-place of dynasts of the House of Aleramici-Jerusalem. A spot was, however, reserved beside Aubry for Botokhui, in preparation for when she, too, passes.

Long live Baudouin VI!

>>147868384
Put Poland can become the PLC with a decison

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>produce most of the world's artillery
>can't buy any
What is going on here?

>>147868626
Rest in peace Aubry

>>147868606
Ok let's say Egypt won the Oriental Crisis. Wouldn't he try to create an Arabic stae?

>>147868783
>liquor 2nd produced good
seriously fuck off back to your steamgroup

>>147868646
So can Lithunia
And you can play as the CSA with an event
So all the USA flavor automatically becomes CSA flavor?

Flavor for Poland isn't flavor for the PLC. They are different things
Go on, what's the amount of unique flavor each one has?

>>147868626
>By the request of his father (the last order of Baudouin V to be obeyed on Earth)
Oh shit
That's pretty cool.
What happened to hisnun of a sister?

>>147868783
>he fell for the HPMeme

>>147868842
fuck off HPM

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