/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1125

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>>147604527

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ded game

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>tfw no premium, no will to live, and gonna kill myself next week
Eternal PSO, here I go!

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odin

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>>147702890
hey me too

i don't want to join guardians

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Big cat butt slap-a slap slap

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pyon pyon

>>147703121
Big hug ruppy butt slap- a slap slap

>>147702953
shit show

War God Odin?

HA more like..

SNORE GOD ODIN

am i rite fellas?

>>147703338
yeah it was pretty terrible but kate was cute

such wasted potential

>>147703353
heh epic joke friendo +1!

>>147704142
thx m8

>people failing odin dps check
>magatsu in 2hours
>ship2 pugs
save me

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>>147704907
Odin nerf + event extension soon

>>147702953
What's happening in this picture? Disappointment? Soul theft? Mindbreaking?

>>147705159
this game is such shit

>>147704907
>12 players failing DPS check
Is that DPS check thing based on how many players there are in the area?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qYv2wzZa8Q

so the new 13* are pretty much the same and on par with ideal?

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>>147705975
aw yeah gurl

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>>147706051

>All these FI niggers soloing LQ
>Still no Neek video
https://youtu.be/ZFxebnF28Ww

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Qunachan is mai waifu

So do people still use inspector or some other programs for fine tuning graphic settings since episode 4?

>>147706368
she fucked the whole crew though

>>147706504
fight me

>>147706543
no thanks quna i dont want to touch a slut like you

Revelle smells like dark chocolate

>>147706975
I want to nibble on her ears

>>147707061
I want to rub my dick against her tits

>>147706975
I want to suck on her tits

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>>147706368

looking to get back into this

whats awaiting me at endgame? im around lv 60 RA/HU now so i understand it might take me a week or so to get up to speed

are the new classes worth looking at outside of the stat boosts? do the /vg/ teams actually do things now or is it just maybe grouping up for the occasional EQ? how is the ship2 population in general?

is the game dying?

is there a guide for the new launcher? it looks like they've changed the settings layout

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>>147707847
>do the /vg/ teams actually do things now
each other

>how is the ship2 population in general?
same as always

>is the game dying?
nah, although this thread might try to convince you otherwise

>>147707940
>is there a guide for the new launcher?
they've shuffled some things around but it's basically all the same as far as the actual functions of it go

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You kids still need cubes right

>>147707940
I think they just switched the positions of the file check and settings buttons

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senpai

E X C U B E

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post robutts

>>147709837
You cannae even see a butt in that image

>>147709837
why'd you crop that, you piece of shit

how can I make meseta but not play the game???

>>147709937
When in doubt, ERP.

>>147709937
sell your pso2 account for some dollas

>>147710168
Where would you even sell them and more importantly why would anyone buy accounts for this shit?

>10 minutes for one run
Ship 7, everyone

>>147710323
>tfw brgu mpa
feels good to organize mpa with mai negros

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>>147710374
>tfw 12/12 katana brgu

why is there such a lack of guides for this game
i've looked around so much
can anyone tell me good hunter, fighter and braver trees and recommended PAs?

>>147710982
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?45-PSO2-Gameplay-Guides-amp-Walkthroughs

>>147710982
The game has evolved a bunch.

What kind of weapon do you want to use?
What class setups?

>>147711052
i'd mainly use hu/fi or hu/br
partizan, wired lance, sword and katana

>people still play this game
wew

>>147710982
>why is there such a lack of english guides for this china-exclusive game

>>147710323
Well considering Sega is doing everything in their power to push away their actual player base and instead cater to new players, this is to be expected.

The norm will be nothing but complete shitters and new players with underleveled, bad, wrong subjobs, no affix units, +0 3 star weapons, etc.

Get used to it. It's the player base Sega wants.

>Having to spoon feed retards who can't look up anything and learn on their own

>>147711224
i said i fucking looked you fucking retard
everything is outdated
can't you think before you start typing

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>Over 24hours have passed
>Odin didn't save pso2
wowsers

>>147711321
MPA DESTROYER

>>147711279
>he can't go to youtube/nico and type hufi brhu and look at gameplay videos
>i-i looked everywehre! e-even pso-w!

>>147711193
>implying Ship 2 could do four runs before EP4

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>>147711321
it killed ship2

>>147711321
Don't worry Vegas will save PSO2!
lol

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>>147711545
aren't these shp 4 teams

>>147711545
>karen
wow, so they really do let anyone in ignition now kek

>>147711516
man, it was, and consistently so with pubs
now I struggle to get 3 phase 1 runs

>>147711418
Nice OC.

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What's /pso2g/ doing right now?

Why do people even do this on XH again
I mean the only reason to bother is for the cubes right

>havent steadily played since last year
>open tweaker
>use of dps parser plugin may get you banned

whats with japanese MMOs and them being so against damage parsing? is there some cultural reason im missing here?

>>147711545
you can literally just spam the screenshot button and you'll always capture a death icon

>>147710118
but dead game, means nobody that'd pay

>>147711108
Don't HU/BR unless you're trying to level up HU with a katana, but if you're not doing that there's literally no reason to.

Stick with HU/FI and BR/HU if you want to use all of those weapons.

The basic trees are not so different.
This tree assumes you are doing HU/FI and not trying FI/HU, but you can reset always if you want to.
I intentionally left some points as everything else is kind of up to you, but this is a basic tree.
http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11fbxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIo0jdodBdBI2i2dB0JkrAIsIO000000jdoIniNfbnfGKcAJlqn00000fdoib0000000fdo0000000Io00000000ioIn00000000IbIo0000000jdoIb0000000lo000000j
Here are some basic takeaways that you might not understand.
>The main point of the FI tree on HU/FI is Brave Stance and Tech Arts JA Bonus, everything else is conditional damage. Brave stance assumes you are attacking from the front at all times, which is good with HU/FI's general tankiness and parries. Tech Arts, otherwise known as TAJA, gives a fairly substantial bonus to damage if you mix up your combos, essentially. By keeping up a TAJA string, you can deal significant damage.
>FI/HU's tree is SIGNFIICANTLY different, so take this tree with a grain of salt.
>Fury Critical and Brave crticial are optional, as you don't get the extra critical damage, but you can still get to 55% critical chance, which is still fairly decent.
>You don't really need step as a HU, as you can just block anything
>Automate Halfline, Massive Hunter, Iron Will, and War Cry are all decent skills to invest into. The only condition I'll say is if you want Automate, you need to put 10 points or it's basically useless.
>On Braver, Quick Mate is unnecessary if you decide upon Automate Halfline, otherwise is a useful skill for 1 point, critical is still an option.
>Attack advance is decent for basic attacks, but you won't be doing much damage anyway.

Anything that's truly unnecessary can go into attack ups.

>>147711731
japanese publishers are generally averse to modding or any third party modification in general, even the harmless ones

>>147711731
Because SEGA doesn't want you to improve and kill any faster their already easy as fuck content.

>>147711772
>wasting time explaining shit to the retard

>>147711772
>Brave Stance and Tech Arts JA Bonus, everything else is conditional damage
What an odd way to put this considering those two things are also conditional

>>147711731
Encourages bullying of lesser skilled players. If you've played WoW, you would know firsthand how autistic an entire game's fanbase can get when tools like that become widespread. There was a time in WoW's life where people where demanding an addon that gave characters a score in their profile based on gear because of how elitist and exclusionary that mod was making the game when it first came out.

I don't care about tools like that and I actively used the parser when i was trying different things to see how I was doing but I respect their decision to keep it out of the game.

>>147711772
thanks a lot man

>>147711867
yeah, god forbid a returning player ask for some guidance
gotta make sure no one comes back to this game

>>147711950
demanding an addon be broken because it gave characters a score*

13* have literally ruined the game.
Remember in episode1 post 10 stars when they kept releasing 10 stars and no one gave a fuck because they were retarded to 50 element due to 100% RNG drops and 9 stars with potentials unlocked were generally just as good, sometimes better?

They kept adding 10 stars, no one cared, no one worked towards them, no one grinded towards them. They were dead on arrival content because our 9 stars with 50 element and 5-7% JA dmg potentials were better unless the 10 stars untekked/dropped with 40+ light. Trying to get the drops at all was a fucking miracle, but then relying on 40+ untekked light and shit just for an upugrade, as well as having to grind 10 stars, ESPECIALLY during the fucking 10k grinder shit storm?

No thanks. No one cared.

Now we have 13 stars, which are pretty much essentially being treated the same way. Why do they keep adding downgrade/minor sidegrade 13 stars when they require fucking lambda grinders to grind, are pretty grindy as fuck to 50 element and +35, when we already have ray and austere weapons, and have had them for months now which completely outclass any new 13 stars they keep adding?

Does Sega just have no fucking idea how to give people a reason to log into the game and play? They literally add dead on arrival character progression that doesn't add any character progression to people who have been playing for a few months now - and even if you weren't(like me) there's no way in hell I'm wasting my lamda grinders on a shitty welfare 13 star when I can wait until I finish my ray weapon or austere.

Sega are completely clueless as to how their own game works.

>>147711950
How do you properly incentivize not being a huge fucking asshole to newer or less skill players

How did we even get here in the first place, this game has no real competitive elements to it at all

>>147711942
Well, I mean worse conditionally. The Slayer skills are minor damage boosts, and especially as HU/FI you're not going to regulate them nearly as well, if Halfline and Deadline are going to apply at ALL thanks to Automate.

Really, assuming you're using an independent HU/FI tree, you're going to make a Bouncer look starved for skill points.
It's just trying to balance FI/HU and HU/FI that makes the tree more complicated.

>>147712046
They're filling out the 13* precisely because they needed to compensate for what they did by introducing them in the first place

Didn't we already discuss this before

>>147712065
It's a hard problem to solve, giving autists less tools to use to attack people is the only real bandaid they know.

>>147711989
of course they don't want old players returning, how else are they going to push their LMAO DED GAEM meme

>>147711950
its more making it easier to shit on weaker players
people will still go and shit on you if you walk in xh with retarded ass units and weapons

>>147712046
New wave of players from ps4 needed to be caught up to speed if they had any intention of adding new content again. Can't put 13* back in the box, Anga was the prophet foretelling the game's downfall.

>>147712046
>Play dress up for 1-2days
>13* slavery
>No new content
>A fucking horse
PSO2 EP4, Bienvenido amigo!

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>>147712185
shiyo returned recently so she is shiting up the thread with garbage as usual

Are collab things ever revived?

Why does the web panel event end a month before they take down the Odin LQ

When will accessories requiring FUN to purchase ever come back? Like the old anniversary events did.

>>147712412
I wonder the same thing, but sega are full on jews lately.

>>147712412
You can never really predict when they'll randomly just decide to revive something like that

Like, none of us ever thought those Ichitaro etc. lobby actions would ever be handed out again

>>147712325
>revive please
that takes me back

>she
reminder: the fact that someone spergs out like a woman doesn't mean they are

>>147712364
Not typically, no. Hope you don't want a 90m lobby action.

>>147712307
>A fucking las vegas free field
>free fucking field
STILL no new TD/CM/ULT in sight.

>>147712325
Can you post a picture of shiyos character

>>147712542
I was looking at a hair but it has doubled in price after a few months

>come back
>people doing nothing but shitting on the game

is it worth coming back at all if i just have some shitty extended weapon with the worst potentials ever for RA (close ranged damage)

>>147712596
>>147712307
Yeah the fact that all we have to look forward to in the upcoming ~6 months is a dead on arrival free field is mind boggling.

At this point I don't think Sega wants to keep people playing their game, they just want the ship jumping casuals to come, play for a month, spend some money on AC, then quit and repeat forever.

>>147712734
The game's still fun, but a lot of the newer content doesn't bring anything for people who already have austere weapons.

If you don't, it's still pretty good. There's still lots to do.

>>147712596
Amduskia is has been in the data forever, but it's gotten new bits and pieces so apparently it's still coming

I don't know how you can realistically expect a new mining base, though. There was an eighteen month gap between the third and fourth and how do you even top one with DF at the end? I wouldn't expect much more than a new difficulty to look forward to for that type of quest.

>EP3
New game changing skills for all classes
Excube piñata
Crafting
CM
ULT
Casino
Space boss
TD3-4
>Ep4
summoner
a boat
a horse

>>147712860
An earth defense mission is inevitable

>>147712896
I can do that too
>EP3
slowass 'god'
boots
dead on arrival ships
useless timewasters
a flower
a bug

>>147712789
I haven't played since the start of EP3 so there's a fuckload of shit for me to do.

It's just depressing that I don't see anything new being added for the next upcoming 6 months that's actually something to look forward to. I'm going to run out of content before they can add more - which is not something that should happen when I'm coming back after a like 2 year break from the game.

That's just unacceptable and shitty on their part.

>>147712896
Yeah, this pretty much. If I played during EP3 I would've had ultimate,s cm's, new tds to look forward to.

Episode4? I have a new fucking field to look forward to.

This is literally episode 2 all over again, and oh, look, WE HAVE THE FUCKING EPISODE2 DIRECTOR.

It all makes perfect fucking sense. Episode2 was "hey can we get content?", with nothing to ever look forward to but "new fields!".

Why the fuck are they letting this idiot ruin the game again? Episode3's director was god tier.

>>147712896
>>EP3
>New game changing skills for all classes
LOL
>Excube piñata
trash boss
>Crafting
mostly trash, took forever to even add new ones
>CM
cm1 is fun, cm2 is trash
>ULT
anga farming fun gais
>Casino
trash
>Space boss
boring until it was fixed in ep4
>TD3-4
tower defense is the worst quest in the game

>>147713014
I could name more stuff EP3 has given that isn't complete fucking garbage and acceptable content.

EP4 is garbage there is only a few things it has given that is okay.

>>147713116
man I'm not defending ep4 but I'm saying ep3 is just as shit
it's just an year ago man, too early for rose-tinted glasses

>>147712860
>how do you even top one with DF at the end?
Add another DF? Maybe you're one of those "story" people who thinks there's a reason there's 4 different Falz' other than to keep making content for the game.

>>147713159
Just no.

>>147712734
The game's still a whole lot of nothing and it's still nothing but EQ camping

Your time is better spent in some other game

>>147712776
>in the upcoming ~6 months
Vegas is next month. Anything beyond August is just unknown. We're due for a roadmap for the next quarter soon

You can certainly try and make some guesses on things based on previous years, though:

September
2013 Quarry
2014 Episode 3
2015 CM2/Ult Nab Overhaul

October
2013 Super Hard
2014 Facility
2015 DF Double + Profound Darkness

November
2013 - Seabed
2014 - Ultimate Naberius

Some kind of new EQ is probably going to land in December, because that happens every year in December (Elder, Base 1, Magatsu, Base 4).

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>>147711418
nice leorginal OC never done before

>>147713242
Why won't Sega fuck off with EQs being so rewarding?

>>147713281
I hope it's not more TD trash

>>147713094
>New game changing skills for all classes
PA buffs
Limit break
Te shifta/deband buffs
Fo buffs
Gunner nerf :)
Shunka nerf :)
>Magatsu
I really like this boss, what I don't like is pubbing it with retards.
>CM
Yup CM2 is trash
>ULT
Lilipa mobs/boss are fucking beasts, I like this.
>Casino
Boring
>Space boss
The music is all that mattered
>TD3-4
>Worst quest
Yeah nice one

>>147713371
Agreed.

I'm not doing another TD for the rest of my time on this game.

>>147713495
>>147713371
Why do dislike TD?

>>147713371
>>147713495
Same, I hate TD so much it's not even funny.

>>147713183
That doesn't top anything, it just repeats it again

Mining Base 5 would be nice if it was done right, but if it was just Mining Base 4.5 then there's no real point

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>Melees so mad about being shit in TD
Oh what's that I can't hear you over my fomelgion/sphere eraser

>I hate content that can fail with a bad mpa

>>147713534
How much more exciting can you make a protect the tower map.

They've fucking done it 4 times already. The shit gets old.

What's next for TD5? 3 different ARK ships that you have to jump pad in between with Luther, PD, and Elder on each ship for a for a final boss wave. Probably right on track with it, since SEGA likes to vomit random shit and call it an EQ.

Don't forget that they're going to have 1/5th of their normal HP because it has to be shitter friendly.

>Exoda spawn
>starting cannon charge
>literally sitting duck
wasted

>>147713534
Because melee needs to chase the retarded AI all over the map.

And mostly because the EQs take 45+ minutes to be over with compared to 10 minute boss EQs for the same reward.

>>147713685
that's 10x better than what they're currently shitting in our mouths

>>147713440
>Yup CM2 is trash
They're both trash. Challenge should have been single party with actual puzzles to solve like in the original, not another fucking 12 person steamroll

Okay sure you actually need to kite things for once and manage VR but the "challenge" there is laughable

>>147713594
No one's fucking mad about class balance in TD. Everyone's fucking at how t's basically the same content over and over just re-arranged into different positions

>>147712479
Damn really? Kinda want to spend FUN on some nice accessories that aren't 10m+ in the player shops.

>>147713765
>compared to 10 minute boss EQs for the same reward.
>playing for rewards
and this is why this game is so bad now

>>147713242
give me some suggestions

>>147713845
>playing TD for "fun"
>after already doing it literally 1000+ times
The "fun" has run its course. That's why people don't even care to see a new TD.

>>147713765
See>>147713845
TD is amazing, I agree we don't need MORE of the same shit, however, we do need more content like TD in design where it can easily fail, and you need most people working together and pulling their weight to succeed it.

Aka, no more shit like yamato which literally can't fail.

>>147713794
that's not it at all
lots of people(especially you) hate TD2 most of all which is the only one with an interesting map

Is healing in the new Odin quest gimped or am I imagining things?

>playing carrot on a stick

>>147713717
Mining base is basically just "be fucking aware of what's happening on the map"

You lose when no one pays attention to Bibras bombs or laser turrets or Exoda spawning and getting their laser off as opposed to it being outright about how well equipped you are (but that does help)

>>147713935
You just don't understand

You can't have content which can fail in this game. This is literally a casual game. It has to be easily accessible and have a high success rate to the general population who play this game, no matter what gear or skill range they have.

>>147713958
It's gimped. There's now lots of "healers" running around doing nothing but spamming resta.

I wouldn't be surprised if the keep doing it in normal XH quests after learning that in the LQ. Sega once again fucks their game up.

>>147714013
That's massively more fun or interesting than yamato, or even a falz fight. It's actually challenging.
>>147714053
You can, considering this game became the most successful during shit like TD's and as they added harder content people enjoyed it more.

>>147713935
It's pretty much impossible to fail anything that isn't Mining Base 3 or 4

Yamato might be easy, but it's hardly the only thing like that

The main issue is how relatively rewarding it is despite its lack of difficulty, potentially getting multiple 13* out of it is ridiculous

>people actually want more "run around the map killing trash" quests
>instead of more big boss fights
please fuck off to literally any other MMO

>>147714145
>added harder content
when. content has actually gotten easier after td3 and the difficulty in there only last a few weeks

>>147713958
Jammed.
Should be like this by default really.

>>147714110
But it's actually balanced and where the game should have been with healing from the start? Are you just mad that your automate tree is a waste?

>>147714198
>instead of more big boss fights
What big boss fights? All these damage sponges with MUH IMMERSION invincibility phases to waste boosters?

>>147713594
but I do play fo and ra in td
doesn't make the quest any less shit though

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>>147714145
> considering this game became the most successful during shit like TD's
The game became most successful during Yamato

>>147714262
you can still faceroll just fine by only buying trimates instead of dimates too

yet fucks like you slow it down for everyone else while you think you're being helpful

>>147702884
I want your character file.

>>147714309
>invincibility phases
Nothing in this game really has invincibility phases
There are parts where bosses move out of range for a bit to attack but those are generally quite short-lived, and tend to be random and not mandatory

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>>147714006

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>>147712065
It's simple westerners ruin any asian game they touch. Unlike most of the time when it's shitty feminists and bad localizers who remove content this time it was the players who forgot to leave their american mentality at the door and thought it was okay to be entitled as fuck, turn a casual game into a artificial competition, and break literally all of the rules. With all the dumb shit like the ddos, the webmoney shit, damage parser, and all the hacking hat's been going on (seriously its like every other person is a hacker nowadays) you should consider yourself lucky that you haven't been ip blocked yet. There's a reason why the rest of the world generally dislikes americans.

>>147714309
>to waste boosters?
compared to TD that takes literally 4-5x as long for the same reward?

>>147714397
Trimates don't even heal anywhere close to what you'd get out of a Dimate normally

>>147714532
but its still enough to get you back over 50% for automate to trigger again which is all you need is this baby LQ

>>147714462
>he played pickupstoneonline2

>>147714397
>trimates
>automate

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>>147714483
>wanting to improve yourself is an american mentality
>wanting to compete with others to get better is american mentality
>we should never improve or have competitions with others trying to 1 up each other or improve, that's american mentality

>>147714483
>westerners
>"english speaking" means westerner
it's a lot less likely than you think

just look at the massive butthurt from here and the rest of the community from the SEA block.

>>147714006
>>147714462
Isn't this basically every game ever

Aren't they mainly composed of structured incentives

>>147714627
I'm so glad that I stopped playing this shit a little before Austeres were introduced. Looks like nothing has changed and has only gotten worse.

10 year plan they said.

>>147713285
>What it really is
Kek

>>147714724
It's a cooperative multiplayer RPG
There are no competitive elements aside from a few leaderboards

>>147713876
please

>>147714901
Competition between people is literally how you improve in anything.

Why do you think burger king and mc donalds and shit constantly 1 up each other and try to introduce new and cheaper things and better deals?

COMPETITION.

>>147714956
Where is the competition in EQs aside from the kill stealing board in TD.

>>147714956
pso2g can't into that, just look at how BTFO'd Neek is now.

>People still downrating Lv12 & Pregnant.

I at least gave it a 5 because of the brunette character with the nice tits.

>>147714956
It's a casual game. I want to play the class and weapon I want to play with.

It's not my fault sega can't balance worth a shit so some weapons are literally doing 1/5th of others.

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>break weakspots
>Boss don't open new ones
Nice EQ sega

>>147715232
go fucking ask the faggots for shit then, I'm pretty sure the ksynch or whatever that fucker's name is is in the containment discord but keep that shit off ex

how do you boss as lightning?

pd on steroids is fun
shame he won't surprise me again

>>147714956
Those companies are competing over the same market
That analogy would only make sense here if there was some tangible reward to one-upping other players but there is none

The game even drops things for players individually even, not that it would have had any effect on drops even if that weren't the case

>>147715675
you don't, sazonde spam is ok to a point but it's completely inferior to any other element, personally I use illbarta fan with 5 - 1 mastery if I really need to boss
just do yourself a favor and never bring it to any bossing eqs

>>147715675
Sazonde spam more or less

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>>147714724
when i say american mentality, i mean:

>just waltzing into any place and being a loud, obnoxious retard
>paying no mind to the local customes or just no manners in general think you can break any and all rules simply because you're american
>trying to force others to follow your way of thinking simply because your culture is "superior"
>no respect for anyone but yourself

Those are what i can think of off the top of my head. But these are just the stereotypes of what americans are like and I'm not saying that all of them are like that on pso2. Mostly just people from B1, B31 and many of the "pros" on pso-world. I have met a bunch of pretty cool dudes on the ship 2 chat.

>>147714738
SEA is actually pretty chilled compared to a lot of westerners on pso2 from what i've seen.

>>147715675
Sazonde with innocent appearance weapon, Zandion when available.
Some bosses have lightning resist so watch out.

>>147715912
>>147715790
nice mpa oh

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Big space thing

>>147715883
>Animal ears AND human ears

Fucking shit.

>>147715883
>SEA is actually pretty chilled
chill as in they just want to talk and play dress up while being carried through EQs.

is that why you're complaining about Americans? because they bully you for being worthless at the game?

>>147716037
>being in B1
>being in B31
>being on PSOW
>I have met a bunch of pretty cool dudes on the ship 2 chat.
>chat
Yup, nevermind. Definitely a SEA monkey.

>>147713285
>The names zext
fucking dying lmao

>>147711950
>Content in WoW required good gear/skillful players to complete
>Addon was simply a quick barrier for people to pug others immediately on the gear side of the spectrum, and have a higher rate of success in said pugs
>Casuals crying about it because they want to clear said content with their shit gear, while putting no effort into getting good gear.
>Even catch up content was introduced for casuals
>Casuals are now considered bullied from this
>This is now considered elitism

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>>147716037
Nah I mean that fact that a lot of americans on pso2 love to start shit between people and other teams (idk why they like fighting so much) and I don't see as much of that with SEA people. Are you saying that people can't be good at the game and nice at the same time. Either one or the other? What would that make the 4chan teams then, since they are neither?

>>147716192
I don't understand what you're trying to say. I'm talking about the really big discord chat that's owned by the guy who made Overparse. Cool dude even though I dont think adding that to the game was a good idea.

>discord
>>reddit

>>147715883
>complains about someone being obnoxious
>is obnoxious themselves

also i sure hope you're not denying the correlation between high dps and being a generally better player

I highly doubt any culture aside from the far west wouldnt put the #1 person on top

Maybe im just reading too much into this post by its self

>>147716668
>a lot of americans on pso2 love to start shit between people
>I don't see as much of that with SEA people
Then just play with SEA people.

Oh wait, they all fucking suck, which is why you're complaining about Americans bullying you for being shit when you want to get carried.

>>147717283
I am from SEA and have 290 ATK units

>>147716516
Casual/Normalfags want everything handed to them and demand their right without having to sacrifice and get good. I hate them so fucking much for what they have done to my hobby.

>>147716516
>>147711950
I can't recall shit from WoW vanilla but since TBC and onwards it didn't require "skillful" people, just awareness and people with proper knowledge to press 3~10 buttons in order. Somebody doing call-outs was more than enough (need to move, stack, etc.) was a big plus.
I remember people using gearscore for status, meanwhile they were jack shit at the game while it being already simple as fuck, just like those wanna-be-tryhards with 160+ attack on gear but don't know how to kill quartz under 30 seconds.
Turbocasuals "I WANT TO WIN END GAME CONTENT WITH QUESTING ITEMS THAT ARE 20 LEVELS LOWER THAN LEVEL CAP" ruined the game.

>>147717352
>im from SEA and don't even know how to add all the best affixes together

>>147717492
You are right I actually have 350 ATK

>>147716516
Casuals ruin everything.
>>147717405
Exactly this. They have taken video games and ripped them a new asshole.
>>147717441
What ruined the game was Blizzard catering to these mongoloids instead of telling them to fuck off because "potential customers".

>>147717721
Look at the game now, just a fucking husk waiting to die because the majority of the normalfags left for the next hotness.

>>147718190
What was the next hotness?

>>147718241
Anything shiny that has a lot of people flocking to it. I don't keep track of normalfag shit that often. Overwatch is the current shining turd right now though.

>>147718190
But this game was casual from the beginning?

>>147718316
Does Japan even care about Overwatch
It doesn't seem like the sort of game they'd care about

>>147718190
Exactly.
They cater to a player base, that's the player base they get, then they have to create a game around that player base.

However, that player base doesn't stick around, they hop from the new shiny game to the next every month.

Now the game is just garbage.

This cycle repeats itself in every fucking game released since 2004, and for some reason it doesn't stop.

Devs and publishers don't learn. I think Sega is doing it now too.

I want Spider Bitch to stop spawning and being useless.

Poop room item when?
I want to drop a big fat turd on Closet's carpet.

>>147718583
She has by far the highest spawn rate so good luck if you want a diabo or guranz weapon. I gave up already, too much work.

>>147718403
I don't know if you could really apply that to WoW, though

The game peaked in 2010 and has been declining, but even then it's massively popular and still #1 if I'm not mistaken. Weren't the casualizing elements being added years before that?

If it was really like "that player base doesn't stick around, they hop from the new shiny game to the next every month", shouldn't have been more volitile drop offs whenever something new came out rather than this seemingly steady erosion

>>147718841
His room is locked 24/7

>>147718583
>>147718891
I hate this shit, the first 3 runs had varied spawns and then it was all spiderbitch for every run onwards.

>>147718841
Make sure to cosplay as Io when you do it.

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First time doing Odin.
That was actually insulting.

This was supposed to be the big scary DPS check?
Are they really trying to compensate for their own shitty design with all these jamming effects?

>>147719267
The jamming effects are pretty much where the game should have been to begin with.

>>147719267
The problem is that it's not even authentic to the real fight.

PSO2 Odin will only begin casting Shin-Zantetsuken when he's on the brink of death, rather than being on an internal timer in XIV. On top of that the casting time for Shin-Zantetsuken is based on the number of players in the MPA. That's why you have that solo clear run video running around.

You can have people die left and right but as long as you have them up before Shin-Zantetsuken is up and they press more than three buttons you'll clear the check.

>>147718583
>>147719049
Biggest reason I don't give a single fuck about the new files because you can't even do half of it in the LQ consistently.

>>147719460
Even if it was on an internal timer, the fight lasts maybe 3 minutes.

>>147717441
I consider awareness a skill. They are the people who don't need to be babysat, and told what to do. It would also translate well for raid leading, to lead the other people out, or just remind them what's about to happen and how to take action.

There are plenty of people who have tunnel vision otherwise.

>>147719460
>PSO2 Odin will only begin casting Shin-Zantetsuken when he's on the brink of death, rather than being on an internal timer in XIV.
Did you word this right? Odin in FFXIV will begin to cast Shin-Zantestuken either when he's cut down to 15% health or the internal timer (six or seven minutes), meaning it works more or less the same way?

HEY "TE" FAGS
IF YOU'RE GOING TO WASTE AN MPA SLOT WITH YOUR "DON'T WORRY GUYS I'M SUPPORT SPEC'D :)" BULLSHIT AT LEAST DO IT RIGHT
BO FUCKING SUCKS YOU RETARDED MOUTH BREATHER MOTHER FUCKERS

>>147719267
Ikr?
Shit should've had 10x HP, and all attacks should have had the ability to ignore all iframe and guard frame completely.

>expecting exoda doing some shit in the new LQ
>use the same pattern as TD after spawning
>died in a second

>>147719879
Exoda are only a threat against friendly A.I.S.
People on foot rape the shit out of them

>>147719758
?

>>147719797
I don't know about 10x
I'd be fine with 3x

Gal Gryphon had this same problem last year

>>147719879
all foes in this game are like that since the beginning
>spawns
>says hi
>gets rekt instantly

>>147719757
Right, but PSO2 Odin only starts casting his Shin-Zantetsuken when he's at like 5% HP instead.

At the end of the day I think Odin was just a poor choice of boss to bring over as part of the collab. In XIV, the nastiest part of his trial outside of SZ was his tank buster and the healer check required to heal both the tank and the raid when the bleeding and everything starts.

Obviously in PSO2 you don't have tanks or healers so you can't really carry over something like that.

I honestly think a fight like Titan would have made a better transition, since your biggest danger is the snowballing effect of any death. Not to mention Titan usually manages to kill people by overloading their head with information when he covers 80% of the arena in death pizzas, which is how just about every PSO2 boss with a hint of difficulty manages to kill people anyway.

All these people dying because they don't know how to properly fight Guranz.

>>147720202
Deaths can't really snowball here in the same way that tanks or healers aren't really a thing either, though

>>147720231
How? Just smother him like an autistic kid with a pillow and sit next to him and he's literally harmless.

>>147720379
They didn't know what to do on my run, they just kept attacking whichever and still died.

>>147720345
would be nice if mooned players get Weakness or Brink of Death for like a minute or 30 seconds, really

>>147719409
Yes.

>>147720345
The major component to Titan was that you needed people alive so they could burn down the Gaols and the titan bombs. Having people be dead during those mechanics would obviously make those mechanics harder to preform and potentially lead to more deaths.

With Odin I could have the entire MPA be dead but as long as I just hurl a moon up when he starts running to the center I'll probably still be fine.

But I would guess that Sega would be too scared to ever have a fight where someone could potentially be dead forever (ala Titan arena outs.) and I guess outside of the top percentile Odin seems to work out great. Even with how piss easy Odin is mechanically I've still had a couple failed runs because people still somehow can't clear the DPS check.

>>147719989
>tebo in pub mpa
>does nothing but spam zanverse
unless you're fighting a wind weak enemy BO adds nothing to the table, field skills suck and so does heal share
sub su or gu instead, or better yet, switch to an actually useful class combination altogether, this whole support deal sucks hard when outside organized groups

>>147720852
Failing odin would probably make me not want to log in ever again.
>>147721350
>>147719989
>2016
>people still sub BO on TE
please

>>147721350
Zanverse is like 20% bonus damage against anything, wind weak or not

well, not if it's actually super resistant, like Elder or something, but most things are at least 1.0x on it

>>147721350
What does su or gu add to the table for a te main?
Why do you conveniently ignore shifta strike, the deband skills, super treatment, et.c.
Maybe you haven't noticed because you're a bad player but 1 te adds a lot to a full MPA.

>>147722020
no zext

>>147720515
They probably should have made it more like previous/other games where you could only revive one person at a time in most circumstances

Feels a bit late to make a change like that now in this game, though, considering the game is balanced around Moons working the way they do now

...which still doesn't explain Reverser Field but go fucking figure with that skill

>>147722176
>What does su or gu add to the table for a te main?
21%/20% more or less unconditional zanverse damage respectively, aswell as better ability to help push chain for your Br/Gu with twice chain, also possible compound + CT memes. Basically, he suggested builds that are EVEN MORE situatonal than Te/Bo and don't work at all outside of organised MPAs.

>>147722606
I think he's misunderstood. TeBo isn't even about the zanverse.
I play TeBo cause I want to Te main but I've grown tired of whacking things with wands. Jet boots are fun, so that's what I play.

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>>147719267
>mfw I find pso2 odin harder than xiv odin
>mfw no face

>>147723263
Jesus christ how casual is that game?
People told me TERA was difficult but the only hard thing there is finding teammates who weren't glue-eating children and Plesioth tier hitboxes.

So why does buying 12 stars off the visiphone bind it to you?
What's wrong with wanting to buy, grind/affix it, and resell?
Does Sega hate fun?

>>147723434
Its easier than many people make it look like. One of the main issues I find in this game are max weebs that only login to look cute and can't think on their own. Only "hardcore" thing I found in this game are: you need surgical precision on new content, and follow specific priority on spells depending on your class because if you fuck up you are doomed because lolpoortickrate servers. You can lose buffs/stacks with ease if you don't get the handle of it.

>>147722020
Do you like big and thick sandwiches?

JUST SPAWN ALREADY YOU FUCKING DIABO

>>147724625
>>147725035
Only if they have a lot of thick mayonnaise!

>>147721683
>20%
it's around 45% if you do things right
using bo isn't doing things right

>>147722176
>What does su or gu add to the table for a te main?
perfect keeper from gu and atk ups from su add to zanverse
attack pp restore is also really damn good

>Why do you conveniently ignore shifta strike, the deband skills, super treatment, et.c.
im not? im just talking about the sub

>1 te adds a lot to a full MPA.
and again I agree, when used in organized groups where there's only one of them
I've been in plenty of pub groups with at least 2 of these fags at the same time, rarely one of them get it right, too bad they'll be all all pissing each other's zanverses for it to matter

>you're a bad player
you should learn a bit more about the game before calling others bad m8

>>147722606
>situational
those individuals usually do nothing but spam zanverse and resta
if that's all you're going to do, might as well do it right by using the right classes
you can always switch back to whatever your previous shit classes were once it's over, you don't even need extra skill trees or whatever

>>147722893
>tebo
it's really bad m8
if you want to use jb just pick some other class, jb are pretty weak right now so there's no point in gimping yourself even further


TLDR: IF YOU WANT TO MEME CLASS, LEARN THE MEMES PROPERLY

>>147726245
Try reading my post instead of throwing around "m8 m8 m8" in an attempt to be hip with the kids

>>147726590
ok m8 but I don't know who you even are

>>147726590
That's something a kid would say

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> Don't worry guys I got this, I'm support spec'd :)

>>147727113
>support
>as HU/TE
no, fuck you

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>been amassing SGs from costumes lately for falz scratch
>realize I'm no longer wearing outfits I want because they're cute but merely for that faggot currency
>realize the last vestige of this game has been compromised for me in favor of efficiently

I've lost control of my life.

>>147727435
>scratch out of curiosity
>特殊能力追加(防御継承)
JUST

>play during jp primetime
>get fuckloads of exp and excubes
>play during normal na times
>get jack shit
Schedule only EQ's fucking blow and are garbage

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>>147727435
P&T a cute.
A CUTE!

Can anyone please post the link to the JP affix sim, I can't find in OP.
Is it updated with Doom Break?

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>>147728049
A real shame they've been thrown under the bus like 95% of the old cast in ep4.

Why isn't the nerfed HP regen in Odin in effect everywhere else? Might make the game actually challenging for a change.

>>147728343
http://hatsunemiku24.ddo.jp/dodo/
No__

>>147728450
Thank you, friend.
There's nothing special about Doom Break besides being relatively easy to transfer, is there.

>>147728576
if I recall correctly It boosts Ability by 20% but >2016 >ability unless you use something like 7s/8s i guess

>happy rappy campaign
more like dead fucking game campaign

>>147728345
and that's a huge part of what makes episode 4 shit.
At least I'll always have their partner cards...

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>>147729009
>motion blur

>AC items hitting 100k
this game is fucking over if they don't fix this fast

who the hell is going to scratch for a 70%+ chance of 100k?

>>147728576
It's better than modulator for some classes I'd say (15 ATK vs 2 PP) and definitely better than a fever, so you'd probably want to put it on most stuff now. More annoying to add than fever though, so you have to ask yourself if 5 ATK is worth the hassle.

>>147729362
>I play on a dead ship

>>147729513
Its like this on Ship 4.

>>147729513
It's like this on ship4, I've been buying the shitty 100k outfits for gem fodder.

>>147729362
to be fair this scratch is popular

>>147729421
does it override anything else though?

works with mod/vin/flict/fever/ability/mutation/ yamato factor ?

>>147729362
Their fault for choosing the worst recolors of the AF gear humanly available.

>>147728343
>>147728450
>>147728576
>>147728740
>>147729421
Do you guys know if it's supposed to be a new "general EQ" drop or is it limited to this one specifically.

>>147729513
>>147729551
>>147729362
>>147728753
They literally don't care.
People are logging on every "update" that adds new scratches and spending IRL money on the game.
Why would they give an actual fuck about adding any actual content to the game? They're making money without doing jack shit.

>>147729596
even last scratch was hitting 120k

the bottom fell out from under it as soon as they removed the hello kitty outfit, with literally nothing else worth getting from the recycle shop now that all new weapons are NT, grind skips aren't worth it either

>>147729879
Sounds like XIV on every 3~ months

lmao dead game

>>147730497
Are you getting paid for this?

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>>147730497
Come to play with me

>1500 FOR A NAME CHANGE.
MAN.

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>no RA

>>147730954
You don't even play, where's your solodin video?

>People actually play Te/Bo
Why?

Where's the ERP team at

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>>147731193

>>147731696
nice mpa oh

>>147729994
You mean the "Here's a 24 man face roll "raid" that gives loot worse than what you've been obtaining for 3 months prior" patch cycles?

>>147731486
HYPER
SUNLIGHT

>>147731518
SEES on ship 2

>>147732184
I hate to be the one to tell you this but your meme is getting a bit stale.

>>147731518
SEESPeerion

>>147731486
muh fields and no charge shifta/deband

>>147731486
Break stance is the highest subclass zanverse multiplier and works well on PD and Magatsu. That and near instant full charge shifta, deband and zanverse with jb and I guess that erpp field or whatever is nice to have for some classes.

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>>147732549
>no charge shifta/deband
Say that to both TE/BO in my last MPA
>Both casting shifta/deband
>One is CASTING zanverse with boots
>Other one is spamming moment gale
>Both refuse to use anti, megiverse, or resta
>Mfw

>>147731486
because its interesting and the rest of the game has gotten boring after doing normal shit for 10000 hours

>1 min price 10-12 stars clogging every search result
Can there be a NO 10-12 star option for shit?
Oh wait, this is a jp game, qol isn't a thing.

And no, "x star only" doesn't work because I want to search for anything not 10-12 star, which takes fucking forever.

>>147733263
>because its interesting
How so?

>>147732740
>Break stance is the highest subclass zanverse multiplier
Elemental Stance also does work great with zanverse against wind enemies.

>near instant full charge shifta, deband and zanverse
There are a couple all-class Strike Gust, Gran Wave and Moment Gale boots that main TE can wear, and the latter are particularly good because of the potential.

>>147732852
>>147731696
Why are OH players almost never in the same party when they aren't organised? It's not the high block meme, is it?

>>147733634
Some people enjoy playing the game. Some people force themselves to play because they hate the game but MUH VIRTUAL BOIFRIEND

>>147733634
>thinking they speak to each other in team chat.
lmfao, They all talk shit about each other on discord/Steam/IRC.

>>147733395
I'm more pissed off about the distinction between non-NT and NT when searching.

>>147733996
Yeah that shits fucking cancer.
Why the fuck isn't there a ANY TYPE OF WEAPON search option?
I don't want to have to fucking search NT and non-nt for every damn item I want to buy/sell.

>>147733604
IIrc those require premium to buy or insane luck in es though (if they're even obtainable atm) so not really an option for most players. And yeah, Elemental Stance is nice too, not much that's wind weak though.

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>>147734182
>psoes only drops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>peses only drops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>147734054
>>147733996
Thought about that as well a while ago, but I guess because the grind values are different.
NT is +0 to +35, old is just up to +10

>>147733975
I wish they would talk in team chat sometimes since I'm not in any of those.

>>147734182
The 11* es boots with strike gust are piss easy to get when they're in rotation. It's guaranteed as long as you do the EQ enough.

>>147733996
>literally doubles the effort for searching for an affix
>for something no one asked for or cares about

>>147734946
>>147734351
>>147733996
>still have to individually search for each unit affix when trying to sell them, write their prices down, then open the sell shop menu

I don't understand japanese developers obsession with menu simulators and inconveniences.

>>147734182
>those require premium to buy or insane luck in es though
There are two 11* with Strike Gust (セルクフロッツ) and Gran Wave (リヒターフェリス) that come from ES.
Strike Gust: You got a 9* 合掌輪 but might be expensive as hell because I believe they come from a code or promotion or something or other.
Gran Wave: グロウスクラッパー drop from mecha-banthers, and I think スノウソ・レー was from a past seasonal EQ.
Moment Gale: you should have shitloads of ハイパーサンライト from last seasonal EQ, or エグスカルペ from the previous. If all that fails you can currently get エルアリオVer2 with gold medals. There's also this 7* ロゼフロッツ/リヒト but same deal, from a code/promotion/whatever.

>>147734351
Fair enough, I'll be okay if they didn't disable the "affix slot" selector when no type is selected.

>>147733634
>different blocks
>No premium to switch
>Don't really feel like asking people to switch their blocks just to do one EQ with me
If I end with someone on same block I usually ask if I can join unless he is on e of those circlejerk people.

Can anyone recommend me a decent, all around skill tree for Force? Preferably something that I could use with both Tekker and Summoner.

So far I had something like this

http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11fbxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIo0jdodBIb000000000doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdo0000000dBI2iN2OGA2XIk7kIk000009oIn00000000IbIo0000000jdoIb0000000lo000000j

>>147735376
>Strike Gust: You got a 9* 合掌輪
27 million last I checked

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>>147733634
same as every team

>>147736960
http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11fbxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIo0jdodBIb000000000doIn0000000jdoib0000000fdo0000000dBbsiN2SGA2k8cKdx000009oIn00000000IbIo0000000jdoIb0000000lo000000j

Use a Braver sub as Summoner, not Force.
Drop points out of PF and take Ele Convert, and max out T High Up. Fast throw is optional, if you don't like it just put the point into PF.

>>147736960
>>147736960
>Fo/Su, Su/Fo
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Get Elemental Conversion
Get Flame Tech S Charge if you're maxing Flame Tech damage.
If you don't want to get that skill, pick Ice instead of Fire because Fire is mediocre without S Charge.
I recommend maxing Technic High Up as opposed to Photon Flare because it's not only active at all times but also helps with equipping good weapons faster (if new character).

Can someone link that video contest page again?