/dsg/ - Souls General

>>147691263
1st for stroking Gwyn's boipussy.

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xth for post and rate your boys

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Cross-Posting

>>147691225
>I could desperately use some help for this fucking Master Ninja-tier difficulty DaS2 DLC.

Lol, wut?

>tfw posting in a loosey bread

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>>147691225
I could desperately use some help for this fucking Master Ninja-tier difficulty DaS2 DLC.

Some sort of caster, archer, or other typed of ranged DPS that can shoot these fucking niggers while I'm protecting you with my overpowered shield.

Iron Hallway Entrance bonfire
SL119
1.35m SM
N-E ring: Kremmel, God of Struggle

>>147691547
Nah man it's not the boss, it's getting to it.

I'm really fucking assblasted by these dogpiling niggers with 8 billion HP.

>>147691401
It does kinda, go to the cat in Majula and buy the name-enscribed ring for 5500 souls, then pick the god that matches what I mentioned above

What's the meta for farron invasions?
Is it true you get taken out of queue after an auto summon?
How do you get back in the queue?
Why don't we have events where we all have the same stats and levels and make the game force us to get summoned as a watchdog?

>>147691684
Are you on PC? I might be able to help you for a bit

>invade as aldrich faithful
>2 phantoms
>world is seeded
>both phantoms have tears of denial and BKG
>host kills me with a single soul spear (over 1000 damage) as I pop one of the phantom's tears

How the fuck do I beat Nameless King? The only bosses I've needed more than a few tries till now were Aldrich and Dancer but this is far beyond those for me, even Champion Gundyr only took a few tries. My main issue with the fight is that even though my damage seems fine he 2-shots me, I die, and have to fight through that boring King of Storms fight again every time.

>>147691685
Think about it anon, the average level someone would be by the time they hit the Farron area, that's the level you'd want to be at.

Other than that there isn't really much advice I can give you.

If you want to be a very friendly phantom, you could be in that level bracket, then put on your Way of the Blue sign and summon in some dorkmoons after Dried Fingering so you can have a huge Darkmoon+ Observationpup battlefield.

>>147691756
Yes sir I am.

>>147691946
Please tell me you're on PC and please summon me

>>147691963
Alright, I should have somebody in that range, look for Dietrich or Ruth

>>147691946
>How do I kill the God of Co-operation
Try summoning.

Is there a point in weapon infusion in DS3? I never bothered with it before and here it seems just as pointless. It seems to ruin scaling most of the time and drops the base damage quite a bit. Im also not seeing any enemies that would be obviously weak to anything often enough to warrant it?
Is it actually useful?

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Tin Banishment catalyst any good?

>>147691684
>Nah man it's not the boss, it's getting to it.
Just run past them. Killing them really isn't work it unless you feel like driving them to extinction which takes forever.

>>147691992
>>147692083
My autism won't let me summon, I haven't summoned for a single boss fight for every Souls game since Demon's Souls and I'm sure as hell not starting now.

>>147692093

Wait, what? Do you mean infusions like blood/poison?

>>147692153
>beat the game once
>summon every time after
Autist you are

>>147692153
Someone please summon me for a boss that isnt NK
I've cast over 400 Dohry's Gnawing into him and I need a change of pace

>>147692114
It's the absolute best for high INT levels, but it halves the amount of casts you have on each spell.

>>147692205
Yeah. Blood, poison, fire and so on. It seems rather pointless.

Been having a ton of fun invading before twin princes for the last two hours.

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>>147692124
Besides, I'm pretty sure this section leads to the purple smelter demon, and not that guy.

>>147692013
Alright Co-op anon, got my ring equipped and waiting for ya.

>>147691963
What's the average level?
20?

>>147691963
Dark moons do not get summoned when a loyal spirit invades.

>>147692114
>>147692265
you're thinking of tin crystal
tin banishment is great for dark magic on a dex/int build because the dark spells get scaling off of dex in addition to cast speed
it hits for less than other staffs do for normal sorcery though
It's also fun because it has a poke like a spear instead of a whack over the head as its r2

>>147692319

The non-scaling elemental infusions I've heard can be good for specific weapons at very low SL for invasions.

Blood/poison I guess could theoretically be useful on very fast weapons to add some utility on a luck build? I've never seen someone use a blood/poison infusion with any success.

>>147692462
Really? That's very lame.

>>147692351

Even still you could just ember at 25 +2/+3 and just kill watchdogs all day. Otherwise you should just be killing goats while waiting for summons if you need the covenant items

Is 140 too high for the meta?

>>147692265
You're mistaking it for the tin CRYSTALLIZATION catalyst.
>>147692114
It's a decent catalyst for low to mid amounts of intelligence (between 18 and 30 or so) but other few catalysts pass it on higher levels.
It also has a poke as the strong attack, so it can be used as an improvised physical weapon.

>>147692153
Watch Distortion2's all boss fun runs and watch his nameless King strats.

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>>147691263
They're not serious, right?
...
Who in their god damn mind designed this?

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>>147692335
I just posted that guy because people say he is the hardest thing in the DLCs for some reason. I thought Jack was harder than him myself.

Anyway, just run past them. That section is just cancerous. If you sprint past everything then it isn't too bad.

>>147692589

You could still PvP 120s and, theoretically, invade NG+ runs. I guess.

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>>147691963
Sign is down

>>147692578
Hm, damn shame. I kind of wanted to make a good poison sword for pve as I dont really care about invading other people, dont like to be a nuisance. I guess I'll just leave that stuff for now and consider it after I've cleared the game.

>>147692631
No one. Pretty sure that is a root, right?

>>147692631

>playing chalice dungeons

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>>147692686
Oh no.

Why god?

>>147692719
Someone had to have decided to put a giant fucking pit in the middle of a boss room. I'd be all for it if I could knock the fucker down there but it's like there's an invisible wall for him.

>>147692795
give me a minute, turns out the last guy was barely out of your range

>>147692635
>not getting sudoku death animation

Casual.

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Alright /dsg/ let's see those newest weaponfus. It's always great to find a new weapon that hits the spot

Doing a min dex/str bolt chucker and I'm fucking loving the LKGS

>golf swinging fire witches

Soooooo fucking satisfying

>>147692792
They are actually pretty fun if you just start running them for fun instead of loot. Gem-Farming kind of ruined them.

>>147692834
That pit can show up outside of boss rooms too. Roots are randomly generated.

>>147692887
He was undeserving of the honor.

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>>147692795

>all that suffering just to fight a reskinned boss for a meme mask

fucking tanimura

>>147692973
LKSw is mine in DaS3. That and the AGS. Using them together almost feels like using the LHB again.

>>147693032
Is that a fucking volus? Which game is that? Is that a mod?

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>>147692973

>>147690041

I have been playing it mostly like a str build, and all my damage stats are way down in the 30s. I think the current build is like 30 str, 27 fth 27 int. According to the stats menu, the AR on my demon's axe is like 689 or something, but that is of course split damage. I'm starting to experiment more with the spells, but the ones I have in the pic seem to work pretty well. You can definitely do a more pyro focused build with the same weps bc I have VIT at like 32 for fashion.

Also like, >>147690226
said, its pretty fun

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>>147692973
Though she's a bit of a one trick pony and I'm looking for a new weaponfu

>>147692335
>Playing DS2
>Blue flame - a sword that can cast spells
>Unlike Cleric Candlestick it doesn't suck absolute dog dick
>Buffing the Blue Flame with crystal magic weapon also buffs the spells it can cast
>Power stance CMG buffed magic infused blue flame spellsword build
>Vs Blue Smelter
>Assume that blue flames = hotter, so it's just a buffed up Smelter
>It's actually magic resist, I do fucking nothing to it at all

DS2 is like watching the fun devs on the team in a constant battle with the retarded devs on the team.

>>147693329

It's a good 900+ damage trick, though.

>>147693175

Mass Effect 3 multiplayer, volus are playable with DLC

Can the hornet ring be removed already? Im tired of getting 1400+ damage riposted

>>147692583
Killing watchdogs gives you swordgrass?

>>147693398
I fucking love the 900+ damage trick. Shitters always run right into it.

But I'm running out of shitters.

>>147692631
It's random. Root chalices don't have set content.

>>147693406
Equip it yourself and backstab the parrying faggots.

>>147692973
Lothric Knight GS is the SWORD THAT CLEAVES EVIL. Best paladin weapon in the game.

Co-op anon, wanna try again?

Just going to run straight to that nigger's room this time now that I know how to get there.

>>147692795
Hey, I'm the guy helping you out. Try not to get destroyed by the easiest boss in the game this time

>>147693747
But that's not fun, that's the issue.

>>147693398
lucerne doesn't the job much better

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>>147692973
Forever and ever. Beam mindgames, high AR, looks cool as fuck.

>>147693891
>easiest boss in the game

liar

all of these DLCS are well known to be pure utter bullshit

>>147694081
blue smelter isn't hard though, just focus on swapping aggro between the two of us and we'll steamroll him

How do I into 3 phantoms? Seems like everytime my friends and I try to play, it only lets us summon two phantoms tops. We have dried fingers.

>>147694282
I've found that it'll only let me summon two passworded phantoms, but that's very unscientific, I'm probably wrong

I just found Eygon dead in that blind bitch's cell. I read the wiki but it doesn't tell why he died? Wtf happened to him? I only talked to him once at the shrine and now he's dead? wtf

Why doesn't UGS stomp stagger people in front of you? It doesn't even provide enough poise like perseverance.

I'm killing myself.

I hate everything.

Thanks Smelter Demon.

>>147694401
You took his only purpose in life away from him, taking care of her, away from him. So he killed himself.

>>147694401
He kills himself if you do nothing bad to Irina, or make her a Firekeeper, because you held up your promise to him. Happens after Twin Princerinos like 99% of NPC endings.

>>147694458
Hey, I'll drop my sign down in a minute, just got invaded by the police

>>147694401
He was a cuck, and you were the bull

>>147694602
I got cucked by tranquil walk of peace.

Thanks fromsoft.

Okay /dsg/, I'm having an issue with ds1.
For some reason if I try to roll while locked on to an enemy, I can only roll in the four cardinal directions. I can roll freely while not locked on, the problem is only present when I am.
Does anyone know how to fix this?

>>147694783
That spell is in DS2?

Just to double check so my ayynus doesn't get split in two by HAHA NOW THERE'S TWO ASSHOLE TIGERS INSTEAD OF JUST ONE on DaS2, I can summon the two NPCs to get me across Reindeer Hellhole and then black crystal them out and the bosses won't have the fuckhuge healthbar, right?

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>MFW farming for hollow gems

Anyone want shriving stones? I got a shitton.

>>147694854
That's just how the game works.
Should've played the fucking games in order, genius.

>>147694854
working as intended

>>147694872
>shriving stones
You're farming wrong Corvians.

can anyone answer me what will happen if I beat the game but then finally went and gave seigward his armour in the well? Will I see him next at the fire in the boreal valley? or his corpse in Yorhms room or something??

>>147694974

They happen to be around the ones I want, though.

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>>147694854
Doesn't need fixed. It's the way the game is meant to be played. Learn to transition between locked on and not locked on. It will make you a better player in the long run.

>>147694986

the quest wont progress if you dont beat any bosses

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>>147694783
All me, baby

>>147695063
This time, anon, I didn't let off my block for ANY reason whenever his aggro was on me

Thanks for bearing with my noobiness.

>>147694856
The name got changed to promised walk of peace and it's a hex, but yes.

>>147695025
No, I've already beat all the bosses. every boss in the game. i'm talking to him in front of the fire as we toast right now, but i have no clue where he will go now since i already killed yorhm... :(

>>147695108
S'all good, good luck with 2cat when you get there

>>147695167

Actually, killing Yhorm before you even do his quest is a great way to ensure he won't die and you won't miss out on his armor much later. Yhorm living or dying doesn't influence his quest at all besides some dialogue.

>>147694892
>>147694961
>>147695014
This is really weird. I've played ds1 before (only up to Anor Londo) then I took a break for like a week to play ds 3 with friends. I could have sworn that ds1 allowed free rolling while locked on.

Is it worth getting the blueberry and raspberry swords so I can powerstance them both for no reason other than aesthetic?

>>147692153
you can try using Bloodring - it helps me a lot. it often allows you to dodge right as you see the telegraph instead of timing your dodges. it also makes it easier to roll though his AoE attacks
there's also the chain stagger strat - you can find it in Tolomeo's no-roll video (i haven't seen anyone else do it, unfortunately), but it probably doesn't work for all weapon types

>>147695310
even if he dies you get his armor, if he lives you get his armor

>DaS1 link the fire
>chosen undead sets the whole on fire
>DaS3 link the fire
>ashen one barely burns
does that mean that the world is fucked even if you link the fire?

>>147695502
Yes. The fire was never meant to be linked.

>>147695502
>DaS1 hollowing
>you go hollow by dying
>DaS3 hollowing
>you go hollow by selling your soul to the devil
I think it means From took some liberties with consistency.

What are good weapons in DaS2 that pair well with greatshields?

I've been using halberd but it's really difficulty to use.

>>147695502
Fire's dying and shit, you're also really weak as Unkindled

>>147695879
Unkindled can't traditionally hollow

>>147695892
Staff of Wisdom.

>>147695926
What exactly is an unkindled?

>>147695892
Drake, you know that halberds can shield poke, yeah?

>>147695892
Craftsman Hammer
Any straight sword but especially Possessed Armor Sword for the length

>>147696081
Yeah, but it does really poor damage.

It's a good weapon, just slow and stamina hungry; bad traits for a tank weapon.

>>147696016
Someone who failed to be a Lord

>>147696225
What are your stats? You might be due for a new halberd

What are the better medium shields with parry? Every single one with high stability I've found has WA.

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>>147696302
Working on my Vit so I can actually wield my full Havel's + Shield and a weapon.

I plan on getting 50 strength and 30 dex at some point for Fume UGS shenanigans.

>>147696395

silver knight

>>147696395
Lothric Knight Shield

65 Stability at +10. Highest stability parry shield in-game.

>>147696479
Go get the mastodon halberd then. Farm them off the elephant knights at drangleic castle. Its got A str scaling at +9, although it probably uses a bit more stamina than the standard halberd

>>147696395
Lothric Knight, Silver Knight

>>147696646
Yeah, trying to avoid high-stamina weapons when I'm tanking in very heavy armor.

Most of the time I die is because I run out of stamina, and even with Havel's +80 stability, I do get guardbroken often because of it.

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So Wolnir without his knees exploded: biggest humanoid yay or nay?

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>>147692973
This halberd is one rude dude, I'll tell ya
>Landing two WA'd heavy attacks in a row
Unf

>>147696830
>giant reanimated skellington
>humanoid

w e w

>can't spam arts at 1fp with simple shield equipped anymore
What should I turn my target shield into now?
Just keep simple?

>>147696016
To be unkindled is to be a vessel for souls.

>>147696762
well if that's the case then just pick your hammer of choice. Mace and Craftsman's hammer are the best ones in the game I think

>>147696937
Simple if you use your WA often, Blessed if you don't, or are using Tears of Denial, or Hollow, if you are running a Quallowity build.

>mfw people bitch about the das3 meta but das1 meta was literally fast dex weapons ONLY with falchion, ricards, scythe, estoc, gargoyle spear

>>147696762
You could try the estoc or other rapiers.

>>147696914
Ceaseless Discharge is pretty big but he's not what I'd call a human

>>147697097
>thursting swords

I'm retarded sometimes.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>estoc is a strength weapon in das2

!!!!

>>147697019
Where's your face, retard?

>>147696830
Wolnir was an illusion.
You were litterally fighting a goblet the whole time.

>>147697013
Blessed heals right?
I'll give that a go for a while and then decide.

Going through a new run on the Xbox because you can't transfer characters between two console generations, but is Solaire worth saving again? If you save him he'll fight Gwyn with you, but lorewise he's stuck looking for a sun forever probably. Not saving him grants you his equipment, but lorewise he goes crazy and dies after "finding" his sun. I've saved him before on my previous character, but again is it worth the task?

>inb4 >>>>>console
I know this, no need to crucify me.

>>147697019
>ricard's
never used
>scythe
not fast enough
>gargoyle spear
no such thing in das1

das1 was literally hornet ring + great club or chaos blade chainmom
maybe the occasional estoc turtle or gold tracer
nothing else was viable

>>147692973
>LKGS
B-but that's my weaponfu!

>>147697365
I think he means demon's spear

Also add Murakumo to your list

>>147697365

i mean the demon spear

>ricard's
never used
>scythe
not fast enough

lol? objectively wrong

great club was used in hardswaps of course, but it wasnt an actual dueling weapon

and i forgot gold tracer, which is another fast dex weapon

>>147697365
claymore, moonlight GS, demon spear, murakumo which was used by 90 fucking % of the japs in the FCs, black knight greataxe (mainly as a BS tool but still, a lot of japs use it), crystal uchi
they're all viable, I'm probably missing some

>>147697281
If you use the Sun Princess ring and a +10 blessed shield, you can get about 190 HP a minute.

That can make a difference in a fight.

>>147697491

also i meant great scythe, not the regular scythe which obviously no one used

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>>147697802
Does +10 Simple shield recharge more?

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Know what I always felt was a shame? From never expanded Pyromancy. You never see the other part of the primal life branch gone into. No summoning vines or leech-seeding enemies or using the power of chaos to make a demon burst from an enemy's chest.

>>147697861
Yes

Protip: spellbuff increases for upgraded catalysts as well

>>147697861
Simple infusion is 2 FP every 5 seconds, or 24 FP per minute.

>>147697905
>pyromancy
>nature shit

Pyromancy is pure destruction yo

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>>147697915
I've had +0 simple target shield for months
Does it make very much of a difference?

>>147698003
It makes a notable difference but it's not going to have you chaining a thousand weaponarts together unless your attunement isn't base Warrior already

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>Havel in DkS3

WHY. CAN. HE. ROLL?!

Anyone else think the game's content and upgrade pace is broken up in a really odd way?

+0 to +4 is basically the start of the game up to Abysswatchers. Between High Wall, Settlement, Cathedral of the Deep and Farron Keep, all of the largest and longest areas of the game are all focused in the range of the first 4 enhance levels

+5 to +7 is post-Abysswatchers to the Dancer. This basically just includes Carthus, Smouldering Lake, Irithyll and Dungeon. All of these areas, except Irithyll proper, are short and more like mini areas, yet here you also kill 2/3 LoC in this upgrade range. In total, it's less than half the content of the first range, but clears some of the most important bossfights.

And then +8 to +10 is Everything post-Dancer, which just ends up being Lothric Castle, Consumed King's Garden, Untended Graves, Grand Archives and Archdragon Peak. There's basically nothing of the game left at this stage. The Lothric/Archives stretch is a massive, meaty area but it's really all that's left. The other areas are more or less just a bonfire and a runback to their respective bosses.

So you spend almost half the game with a weapon below +4, rush from +5 to +7 in a hurry while blasting through important bosses tied to unimportant content and then only pass +8 in what amounts to the final area of the game, where you also go from +8 to +10 in a matter of minutes.

It's really strange pacing, especially considering that scaling increases with enhance level and most weapons at +3 or +4 are better off raw or fire than left to scale with their attributes. It's like you spend almost half the game with your build not mattering and then blur past the important bosses, areas and characters after that.

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>>147698000
>Pyromancy is pure destruction yo
In the games, Pyromancy was spawned from the attempt to replicate the First Flame. It's using the principle of using the raw energies of life for magic rather than drawing on mana, but isn't getting into the profane area that is Chaos Pyromancy.

Laurentius goes over it in DaS, IIRC. Anyone can use pyromancy. The energy pyromancy draws on runs through everyone, rather than just wizards and sorcerers.

Pyromancy is life magic.

>>147692114
It's got a surprisingly high damage stab with its R2. It's better than any melee weapon you'll get for a while, especially being as you can get it right after getting to firelink, if you've got the master key.

>>147693404
HOLY FUCK

Super MGS Int Man
level - 6 -> 80
Vig - 9 -> 27 (18)
Att - 16 -> 30 (14)
End - 9 -> 15 (6)
Vit - 7 -> 10 (3)
Str - 7 -> 16 (9)
Dex - 12 -> 12 (0)
Int - 16 -> 40 (24)
Fth - 7 -> 7 (0)
Lck - 12 -> 12 (0)

How can I make this better? Any spells I should use too?
What weapons until I unlock MGS?

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I feel like this build lacks a bit of stamina, do you guys recon equipping a Hunter's Ring instead of Chloranthy Ring and moving 5 points of dex into end would be a good idea?

>>147698192
I noticed this as well. Also, the game is actually quite small if you think about it. It would really only take 5 minutes to walk from Aldrich's room all the way down to Yhorm's room.

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most difficult boss in Soulsborne?

>>147698139
>fast rolling havel in ADP
A nightmare

>>147698192
>not having +8 by Irithyll and +10 by Dancer

>>147698205
>pyromancy was spawned from the attempt to replicate the first flame
I don't see how

>Laurentius

That's a bit of romance to it, considering he says you need to be in tune with nature and have the right materials.

Pyromancy is destructive magic, even if it draws from nature and life, seeing as it's 'Pyro'mancy.

>>147698364
You can get the MLGS at the start of the game.
Buy a bandit'a knife from greirat after rescuing him and you can kill dancer before even killing vordt.
Oceiros is even easier than dancer because he's weak to bleed.

You can also wait until post-vordt and get the dark hand, which is better for dancer. It makes no difference because you need to wait until tree for the transposing kiln anyways.

Any of you guys need some lightning gems for a faith build? I've got some spares I probably won't use.

>>147698413
The Witch of Hemwick

>invaded
>invader heals over and over
>keeps trying to lure me into enemies
>I insist by staying near the fire and not fighting those fire priests in Irythyll alongside him
>he keeps showing his estus flask is empty like he wants me to empty mine

Nuh uh buddy, gotta do that from the start if you want it. On another note, there is a hacker named "saber" running around so don't bother with him.

>>147698547
>not having +8 by Irithyll and +10 by Dancer
Not actually possible.
You get 1 chunk pre-Irithyll in the smouldering lake, and one more in Irithyll Dungeon.
You're capped at +6 until you get the chunk from the giant in the dungeon, at which point you're capped at +7 because there's literally only 2 chunks available in the game without killing dancer.

The only way to be +8 in irithyll would involve killing dancer early and sequence breaking to loot lothric castle. But, if you did that, you wouldn't have a +10 for dancer

Why are the whites in my characters eyes red weed lmao?

>>147698413
Vordt, of course, that's why they nerfed him

>>147698564
I'm not sure I'm good enough to pull that off.

>>147698701
>not having +10 from the slab Zwei Zwei Master Onion gives you
I don't know how exactly, but I did it on my Pyromancer character before Dancer.

>>147698701
you can get one more chunk by trading Black Firebomb to the crow. not that it matters though

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>>147698547
>I don't see how
The Witch of Izalith and her Daughters Of Chaos were all flame sorcerers initially. Then they figured out how to draw from whatever source led to their experiments that led to the Bed Of Chaos & Co. Quelana, the Mother Of Pyromancy, fucked off before her mom's experiment went tits up and fucked off elsewhere, eventually coming up with the magic that would become pyromancy. It was a toned done version of what the rest of her family had cooked up, which was primal life magic that manifested as uncontrolled flame and ended up creating life in the form of demons.

>>147698972
I still don't see how Chaos Pyromancies they used to kill dragons, create the Chaos Flame that made the demons & gave Quelaag and her sister spidertits bodies, aren't Pyromancies. Quelana used 'regular' Pyromancies she gave to Salaman but Pyromancy was never 'not' a thing.

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>>147698386
Frankly anon, I'd suggest using a different UGS, such as the Greatsword UGS, or even the Fume UGS. The AGS has far too high of a DEX investment, and causes you to waste points in it for a tiny bit of extra damage.

Thankfully, you're low enough of a SL for the Prisoner's Chain's effect to not be so detrimental, so it's reasonably safe to use.

Try this out, and let me know if you like it. I put you at 150 stamina, since I personally consider that to be the absolute minimum for wielding ultra weapons. The Chloranthy ring is WAY too powerful at an additioanl +7 stamina/sec to not use it on a build with so little end, every single bit counts. I also put you at the 1k HP softcap, which I also consider to be the minimum for any sort of non-meme PvP.

>>147699089

Think of it this way: miracles are stories about the times when Gwyn and Co. were fucking dragons up with bolts of lightning. Back then the spell wasn't "sunlight spear" but just one of Gwyn's powers. It became a legend (a miracle) which allowed people to replicate a similar form of that power through the retelling (casting of miracles).

Likewise, the magic zoopadedoo power that the witches practiced was later taught to men. The stuff men learned were called "pyromancies," as it was their attempts to control the flame as taught by the witches. "Pyromancy" is the human term for this second-hand magic.

>>147698972
Also, I butchered that. Fuck.

>>147699089
That wasn't Pyromancy. It was a branch of magic known as Flame Sorcery. Hence the Izalith Catalyst. Pyromancy was a replication of fire sorcery that didn't require the use of a catalyst.

Look at how Pyromancy has you conjuring flame in your hands, turning your skin to steel, and puking out clouds of poison. It's a different sort of magecraft. Quelana came up with it and taught it to Salaman who taught it to Carmina and other pupils.

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How good would a crystal caestus be? I'm trying to do a fist/sorcery run, would I be better off going raw, or putting some points in SRT and making it heavy?

>>147699459
>Not letting him win

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>>147698386
>>147699143
Here's some alternate builds with the weapons I suggested.

Keep in mind that you would only be able to wield the FUGS with two hands at your SL, and thus you need a completely impractical amount of stamina in order to successfully wield it.

>>147699621
>das2 spinner with seed of a tree of giants who runs away to summon phantoms

nah

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>mfw I just read a doujin of CU getting fucked in the ass by the Capra Demon and his dogs, with a little ending bit featuring the Penetrator getting fucked by one of the Bridge Dragons

>>147699089
There's a fundamental difference
Fire Sorcery is just that, it's magic that freely creates and manipulates fire.

Pyromancy is different. A pyromancer doesn't create and manipulate fire, they draw upon and manipulate their pyromancy flame, which is a piece of fire they've taken into themselves and become one with.

All pyromancy traces back to Quelana, because the first pyromancy flame came from her. The implication is that she took a piece of the chaos fire, tamed it, and made it her own. She split a piece of it to Salaman, who then split it further to each of his apprentices and so on until it spread throughout the world.

A pyromancer is defined by their pyromancy flame. It's the source of their magic, and they're powerless without it, they're not a pyromancer without it. That, and the limitations that come with it, are what set pyromancers apart from the original witches that wielded fire as a sorcery.

Another way to think of it is that standard sorcery is the art of drawing upon the power of the soul and manipulating it towards various ends. All Sorceries basically involve the power and manipulation of souls. Souls, however, are essentially just small pieces of the first flame. Fire sorcery is basically the same principle as sorcery, but operating on such an immense scale, and at the same time on such a fundamental level, that it manipulates the building blocks of the soul, and in such high volumes that it resembles the flame from which it is born. It's sort of like how you can measure the force of a nuclear explosion in equivalent numbers of TNT explosions. Fire Sorcery is Sorcery on a nuclear scale, while pyromancy is just the borrowed power of a malignant flame that becomes one with its wielder's soul.

>>147692114
Banishment is the strongest for dark magic.
Crystal is strongest for crystal magic.

>>147699838
I thought Manus was stronger for dark

>>147696892
That's a crescent poleaxe

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>>147695892
TWO GREATSHIELDS

>>147699782
>not just reading Sinner's Souls over and over
It may be heavy on the heart but it's also heavy on the dick

Is it worth it to waste a respec to use the RAW ASS during PvE when in the end the build won't have the stats to use it or is there another similar weapon that is effective. I know I used a raw broadsword for one playthrough until I had the proper stats to give it an appropriate infusion but I don't recall it being too effective.

>>147699939
Are there any greatshields I can powerstance?

that sounds fun as heck.

>>147699978
Well if you know what the hell you're building there's no point in not infusing it. There's 2 free tongues per game so it's whatever.

>>147699990
Orma and Reeves are the only two powerstancable greatshields, but they'e pretty fun. You have to get both of them and powerstance them with each other, though.

>>147699990
Yes, the Undead Crypt knight shields.

>>147699864
Oh, you're right. But only if you meet the STR and INT requirements, and it does halve spell uses.

I'd still use the Tin Banishment Catalyst because it gets the dark magic boost with 40 DEX / 32 INT, and if you're a caster, you'd be upgrading DEX anyway.

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>>147699990
Just Orma and Reeve's, but Havel's Greatshield +5 on its own is insanely powerful, capable of hitting Alonne Knights for 1.3k+.

>>147698192
Well, in ds1 it would be +0 until before gargoyles then jump to +5, +6 in the depths and +10 before quelaag and for a long time unless you rush new londo

>>147698000
>implying nature isn't the most destructive force that can possibly exist

>>147700334
>>147698205

>arguing with trips

disgusting. I bet both of you want poise back too.

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>3rd playthrough
>finally see !WEAPON AT RISK! for the first time after going through half of catacombs and nearly all of smouldering lake without sitting at a bonfire
Yeah I'm sure I'll use my other 8 repair powders.

>>147700452
I really wish they'd bring back the fragile equipment from DaS2.

>>147700606

fuck off

weapon durability literally adds nothing of worth to a game

>>147700606
fuck that tbqh

>>147699143
I was considering Prisoner's Chain too, but it really does rape my defense even after switching some armor with the higher vit. Might still be within acceptable numbers but I don't know.
And what about Hornet Ring? Getting those 1hit ripostes can really make the difference between a successful and failed invasions if the host has many phantoms.

I'm not married to my current weapon setup, but I'd need to replace the Lothric Knight SS too, because I really do want a faster backup weapon as well. Honestly I'm not even all that attached to it being specifically an UGS, I just want something heavy hitting with hyper armor.
(Also super slight minmaxing if I use Knights Ring instead of Life)

>>147699761
I don't think I want to make the sacrifices to wield the Fume, that second build does look nice though. But again, thoughts on Hornet Ring and suggestions for backup weapon? Maybe just a regular SS would be fine.

Thanks for your answer.

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>>147700419
Nani?

I hate how inconsistent Ocieros's hitboxes are. 40% of the time he'll attack and won't do any damage when he should, and 60% of the time he hits me even though I should've had my iframes active when he struck.

>>147700606
i agree honestly
you'd think onikiri and ubadachi, a dual weapon with 35 durability, would at least be somewhat fragile, but you can go through like half the game with it

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>>147700721
Was going to post this, my defense with prisoners.

>>147696830
Dancer is, probably

Wolnir was just an illusion.

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>>147701062
Provide sources to these claims

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>DS3 darkwraiths actually talk

>>147700721
Fuck the hornet ring.

Don't propagate metashittery. Just outplay people and you won't even have to use the riposte crutch. If you get a parry, it will still do tons of damage, and psychologically, people tend to give up and/or panic when they get riposted by an ultra weapon, hornet or not.

Besides, even at +3 and 29 strength. using head math, the FUGS'd be slamming people for around 290-310ish damage, give or take. Wouldn't even need to riposte, but you would need absolute top-tier stamina management.

>>147700773
aught-aught-aught.

>>147700721
For a sidearm, I can't really suggest anything honestly, being that you can't wield any polearms comfortably, weight-wise unless you're very good at Hardswapping, in which case I strongly recommend the Red Hilted Halberd.

Lefthand Estoc, Corvian Greatknife or Dagger wouldn't be bad.

But you'd have to minmax your dex to wield those, and they're truly the only "viable" weapons to use. You could also get some use out of Caestus on the FUGS build. Heavy Caesti have very acceptable damage, especially when infused.

>>147701118
What do they say?
>>147701282
Naniiiii?

>>147701114
Wolnir's probably just possessing his goblet. That's why when you touch it shit gets all weird, and after killing him the darkness is lifted- like a veil.

Dancer's size and ass is very real.

though i suppose ceaseless discharge is the true big one.

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>>147701282
Eh fair enough about the Hornet Ring. I just looked at the Greatsword, holy fucking shit, that 20 weight really does a number on my defense in conjuncture with Prisoner's Chain.

>>147701581
Regular Long Sword only needs 10 dex, it should be fairly decent for roll catching or if someone is REALLY good at dodging my UGS, right?

>>147701282
>don't use hornet ring
>everyone survives riposte
>backrolls 30 times and heals to full because your ultra weapons cannot ever punish rolls in 3

>>147701724
So you've got nothing then. Thanks anyways.

>>147701806
>bust out lefthand estoc
>poke to death
>>147701792
Yeah, this is why I couldn't really suggest a good sidearm. Because there are none that are light enough at your SL.

>>147701709
Die, die, die!

>>147701887
>don't propagate metashittery
>use this metashittery which also is against your playstyle instead
>>147701947
Fuck off, undead Jew. Poison is shit in this game. At least charcoal resin looks cool

Was Pontiff Sulyvahn a deconstruction of popes?

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>>147702072
>answer question
>Fuck off, undead Jew.

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>>147701887
Is the Zweihander decent? The 10 weight is much more doable and lets me get my absorption above 10% at least.

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>>147702216
>not recognising whose dialogue that is

>>147702093
Which gauntlet is that?

>>147702347
Kinda looks like Drakeblood with a more opened underside

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>>147699459
>Other Faithful immediately swears allegiance

I'd bend the knee tbqh.

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So what's the point of heavy armor now, with poise being the way it is?

>>147702905
>Justice
>Vengeance
>Arseface

>>147702905
it's massively important to have something on all 4 slots since they increase your base defense no matter what they are

absorption still works and is effective, it's the bonuses like steel protection that do jack shit

>>147702905
Damage mitigation is still somewhat important.

>>147702315
I don't have much experience with it. None, actually.

It's an average UGS. Seems to have okay scaling with strength, but I don't like the moveset. Bad for tight spaces.

I realized you could always try out the BK Glaive. One of the best weapons in the entire game and easily one of the highest skillcap weapons without it being *too* good. Probably one of the best movesets in the whole game.

>>147702985
He said "heavy" armor. You don't need that in every slot, just any piece of armor at all.

>>147702985
So basically, Masters' plus loincloth and rag for the face and I'm set to plat the game. Maybe switch out the pants for Sellsword if I want the necessary amount of poise to activate hyperarmor.

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>>147702905
halving the damage you take in PvE

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Maybe parrying should be a tad more difficult?
99% of my fights consist of checking if my opponent is retarded enough to strike first or not use unparryable weapons/attacks.

>>147703029
My issue with the glaive would be that right now my weapons are +5 so I'd only be able to go +2 or jump up a weapon upgrade tier. I feel like +6 and 50 might be a bit much if I want to invade Catacombs?

>>147703142
>not curved sword parrying everything that can be parried
It's using a shitty parrying tool (in 3 at least) against retards and punishing them fairly

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>>147703142
Maybe people should just remember that the 2H of most ultra weapons is now Unparryable and return to glorious Giantdad adventures R1 Zweihanding parry fishers their own ass on a silver platter

>>147703224
>most ultra weapons
there are ultras that can be parried 2h?

Why can't I open Siegward's cell? I have the Jailer's Key Ring.

>>147703271
Question of definition, some weapons are parryable but look bigger than a Zwei for example

>>147703271
vertical UGS 2hr1 can be parried but you have to be point blank and fucking it up means you take the full 2hr1 combo

>>147703167

Most people will have at LEAST +3 weapons by the time they hit catacomb, and will probably end up with +4 during it.

IYou'll be fine at +6 senpai. It's a risk, since you can't delete weapon memory, but it'd be worth it imo.

>>147703271
Only jumping attacks, R1s, rolling R2s, and R2s cannot be parried.

Everything else can.

Haven't played Dark Soul 3 for a while now, has the PVP meta evolved yet? Any new techs been invented/ discovered?

Will DLC Save us?

>>147703356
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQYhkahxFks

>>147703404
There's been a bit of tech discovered but it's all extremely situational and nearly useless.
Game is shallow as shit.

>>147703404
It's devolved into Carthus Curved Sword on Quality, Hollow, Qualithollow builds


That's about it for meta

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>run into the Crystal Sage entirely on accident while searching for a bongfire to blaze my estus at
>swat his ass down with 3 estus+1 used first try oneshot
Did I cheat by getting myself a +2 Raw ASS early on or is this really all that the fag had to offer

>>147703497
QUALLOWITY

>>147703558
NG Sage is piss easy, especially with the raw ASS,
he only starts to show difficulty on NG+ if you're unprepared

I haven't played in a while, how bad did the dark sword get nerfed?

>>147703720
9 AR
>9 AR
9 A R
A
R

>>147703769
That doesn't seem like much. Did it help?

>>147703828
A bit.
Just a bit.

>>147703858
Good, I'm a shitter who used it on his first playthrough and I plan on going back to that character for the DLC.

>>147701118
Source?

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off shittaku

>>147703290
You need the Old Cell Key, from the chest at the end of the rat/basilisk hallway.

>>147701118
If you mean those whispers when you get hit by their Dark Hand attack, that's present for everything that performs that attack

Since DaS1

>>147700196
>and +10 before quelaag
That seems a bit much. I get my +10 when I have access to the merchant at the end of Sen's Fortress.

>>147703978
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i fucking DESPISE poise.

god dark souls pvp was fucking awful

>>147703978
as in, we'll be working more on communicating that POISE IS WORKING AS INTENDED

>>147703978
Translation: "Communicate? With a Western audience? You are aware that we're a Japanese company, right? We don't do that shit."

>>147704084
makes pve alot easier too, elite knight set was more than enough to facetank 4kidz

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>tfw we got this beauty in BB
>tfw we got the fucking huelm in DS3

why even live?

>>147703123
What armors/rings? I got Smough on and +2 steel protect and other max magic resist rings and I don't even come close to these.

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>>147703392
I can always make a backup and go back to +5 if I regret my choice I guess. I don't need quite as much stamina for the BKG or what do you think?
Still not sure if I want chloranthy or hornet, need to play a bit more PvP on this build to decide.

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>>147704212
>Not prefering the superior hoodless version
disgusting

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>>147692973

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>>147704336
>prefering the bellbro yahar' gul helm

>>147704327
BKG is VERY tame when it comes to stamina.

Chloranthy is always better than hornet. I guess it's okay if you're a watchdog or darkmoon, since your summons are so rare amd your only goal is the item, but there's no fun in a fight ending in 30 seconds because of a lucky parry.

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>>147704454
I don't mind quick and dirty fights, I'm more interested in fanmail than honor duels. Is prisoner's chain still worth it then you think if the BKG doesn't need a fuckton of stamina?

If I use Hunter's I lose 12 stamina and slight carry weight but gain nearly 10% absorption.

>>147704664
Nah, the chain is exclusively for the UGS builds and ones similar to it.

Just keep in mind, what you see on your menu is much different than what damage you actually take in PvP combat.

PvE and PvP absorption work differently.

>>147704664

With Chain, you better make the fights quick n dirty because in PvP it can increase the amount of damage you take by a fair bit. It's workable for twinking in very low-level PvP (High Wall and Settlement) where your victims will usually be poor saps with starting gear.

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>>147704280
You think those absorptions are good?

check THIS shit out.

>tfw can survive a riposte from NG+11 hodrick with 800 hp left over

>>147705119

Phantoms in NG+++++++++++++++++++ don't scale up is probably why.

>>147705119
Can you survive an R2 Stance from the madman grampa?

>>147705243
Easily.

>>147705119
I think it stops scaling at +7 like DaS1

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>>147705297
Can you survive his feels

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Whats the best soul level to stop at for ebin pvp
I'm at 90 right now and about to go into my first NG+ cycle

Can anyone mule four rings and a weapon for me?

I have plenty of duplicates of armor, weapons, and rings for trade

I went into Bloodborne fully expecting to like it.
I keep hearing about how many people think it to be the best in the series, or at least, one of the best.
I don't know why, but I just wasn't enjoying it. I beat it, and it was okay, but it just didn't feel that fun to me.
I just wish I knew what it is that was turning me of from the game.

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>>147705472

You're already past NG invasions so you might as well go to 120 or further for dueling/NG+ invasions.

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>>147692973
baiting retards was never this fun
lacks a bit in damage though

>World 5-2 is hard

Nice fucking meme assholes.

You spooked me over nothing.

>>147703558
>first playthrough
>knowing about raw ASS' busted early ar

stop spoiling your playthrough by visiting those threads, jesus fuck

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>>147692973
farron greatsword literally best weapon in-game

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I want to like TPGS but this shit does less damage than a LKSS with a slower moveset. How do I make it at least decent?

>>147703720
Physical infusions didn't get touched too badly, but all other infusions were hit very hard.

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everyone talks about how DSII is terrible, I've just completed DSI for the first time ever and loved it

should I still play DSII? I'm also planning on getting Bloodborne and DSIII some time in the future

cheers

>>147706482
Fucking retarded anime sword, it's useless.

>>147706592
by what metric

its so fucking good senpai. it has low ar but a fucking swanky ass moveset and parryfags get fukt all day with them sickass dedangles

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>>147706396
>implying I'm gonna deal with the garbage enemies the game throws at me without a garbage enough weapon to balance it out
The 'valid challenge' rating of the game went into the skies on the High Wall with those badass knights strutting around the place everywhere and then dropped to 'fuckin cheese' as soon as I passed into / out of the Undead Settlement and had to deal with those endlessly saw smashing peasant giant fags and crucified lycanthropes everywhere comboing me into the god damn ground for like six hits unless I dodgeroll around the place like tumbleweed.
Which I'm not bad at given that I completed my first DaS1 run as a no shield no parries 2H Zweihander from the moment I picked it up in the cemetery but jesus christ, stamina bar, what the fuck is that? Bonus points to Boreal Outrider for pushing the endless stamina bar smashing tumbleweed adventures envelope to the fucking max.

>>147706650
L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2L2

>>147706691
i cant expect anyone that hasnt actually used the weapon to know what they're talking about, or why the weapon is actually bad

protip: it's actually the unfinished moveset without proper sprinting L1s or R2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3LXhEoC10k

wow look at that it's yet another HILARIOUS video about ganking with the same loadout

jesus christ dark souls 3 is terrible, this is all the content there is, it's just ganking, there's nothing else remotely fun in this game

>>147706542
Are you that same dummy from last time who dark infused his dark sword >>147706689
>saw retards
>cheese
>crucified 'lycanthropes'
>stuck for more than two hits
Get his little babs

>>147706842
Dark Dark Sword?

I used to run a Blessed Dark Sword on my first faithcuck character before I even knew it was a metaweapon

fc

>>147706586
DS2 is fine, its not an amazing game but still enjoyable.
Just pick up the scholar of the first sin edition from some place cheap

Llewellyn Shield or Iron Round?

>>147706586
Ignore people who say it's terrible and just play it.

Then if you decide it's shit, you can at least say that you came to that conclusion yourself. Also all three DLCs are better than the base game.

What weapons would make for a decent sidearm on a quality UGS build?

>>147706842
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/enemygroup:lycanthrope
It's their name bredah
And no, I have never gotten stuck in any of their combos yet, I always dodgerolled away because that's what I'm good at, but standing there gawping while they work their aggressions out on the floor or the empty air ain't exactly riveting gameplay in comparison with dueling a hollow knight.

>>147706054
could be the spoilers?

I'm sure the genre shift would've been absolutely fantastic to anyone really into lovecraft and souls games at the same time

>>147706973

carthus curved sword

>>147706973
A refined Straightsword


>>147706887
Reinforced Dark Sword actually

>>147706951
>>147706970
okay fair enough, I'll probably buy it on steam

does it run 60fps? like I know there's the DSII fix but that's just for durability isn't it?

Dank Dark sword

>>147706986
Implying every souls game didn't have the same twist in the latter half somewhere when abyss enemies started crawling out of the woodwork

>>147706517
you go back in time to when you could spam the WAs with one FP

>deserters
>fighting alongside blue lothric k***hts
Literally what

>>147706650
what
i always parry farronfags

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>>147706973
>UGS
>not just 2H Zwei and R1 parryfags to victory/death

>147706983
Just dodge and hit instead of stayin there waiting

>>147707221
Can someone edit that picture so that he's holding a Zwei instead of an axe?

>>147707174
put a red sign down at central irithyll, pass: dsg, pc

i want you to put that to the test because i am far more confident in my ability to not get parried than you are in your ability to parry

>>147707154
Their set is called deserter but those might just be loyal footsoldiers with ragged and worn equipment

>>147707282
I'll be home within the hour, I'll pick it up if no one does

>>147707068
those were good days..

someone knows if the leo ring in das3 boosts physical thrust counters like in das1?

If a red kills a red, will the blue get ears?

>>147707351
Noaice

Can someone point me in the direction of the DS1 mod that lets you play as a skeleton?

DLC
WHEN
H
E
N

>>147707485
ONLY IF THEY DEALT THE KILLING BLOW

>watching WR das1 all bosses speedrun
>its pure int, no weapons used at all

when did this happen

>>147707614
Right this way.

>>147707890
Are you kidding? DS1 has the most overpowered magic in the series.

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So /dsg/, I want your advice.

I just got to the very beginning of Farron Keep, and I haven't upgraded anything yet because I can't decide on what weapon I want to use.

Just for reference, I'm a knight with base stats (other than vigor and endurance) and since the very beginning of the game I've been using the un-upgraded Deep Battle Axe from High Wall.

I've got a choice between throwing 3 points into faith and going with the raw ASS, throwing more points to give myself 15/15 to wield the Dark Sword (which apparently I can get soon), or going all-out and getting 18 dexterity and getting the Hollowslayer Greatsword. I do usually prefer to only get the minimum stats required to wield something though so I'm not too keen on the Dark Sword as it looks like it's the weakest of the bunch unless I end up going 40/40.

Alternatively I could get the Estoc at some point but I've heard it's only really good for PVP and it's actually worse than the rapier when it comes to PVE, which is what I mainly want to focus on for now.

What should I do, /dsg/?

tl;dr: just reached Farron Keep as knight, haven't leveled anything except VIG and END, should I get 3 FTH to use the raw ASS, level STR and DEX to use the Dark Sword, get a bunch of DEX to use the Hollowslayer Greatsword, or wait and get the Estoc

>>147708136
Get the fire keeper soul and heal your Autism Sigil

>>147708136
Use raw ASS

>>147708136
Use the Astora Straight Sword with Raw infusion, or the Lothric Knight Sword

>>147708136
In my experience, hollowslayer greatsword is pretty good upgraded and hits like a truck. Plus you won't look like a shitter to invaders, if you give a shit
Otherwise get a regular ass lingsword, slap refined on it and go with that
That or dorkswerd

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>that insane rollcatching potential with storm curved's WA
>it can catch people even on wakeup

>>147708136
>asking for advice on your first playthrough

No

>mfw trying to argue on leddit about UGSs being underpowered.

Jesus christ why did I do that?

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>>147703392
>>147704664

I did a respec and chose something like a quality build since both Lothric Knight SS (as refined) and BKG got slightly more AR than going for minimum dex req.
I'm loving the moveset, a lot of fun to use and when I space properly it just reks. I do need to git gud and more accustomed to it though but so far no regrets.

>>147704071
You can easily farm for it though, provided you have rusted iron and 10 manatees

Is there a fight club at the moment?

>>147708660
What did the hivemind say anon?