/tf2g/ - Team Fortress 2

IS COMPETITIVE MATCHMAKING OUT?

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2nd for hating idiots

>>147652607
he's on the dota 2 team, where he applied a lot of monetization "experiments" he tried beforehand in TF2

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Oh thank god it's a good OP.

>>147652076
which tf2 would you vote for

who here is ready for an unoptimized broken mess?

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>Valve are ripping off Overwatch with new casual play mechanics
>mfw

Is your game dead now that Overwatch is out?

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Does nospread affect the revolver, smg or pistol?

>>147653071
No they should still have random variation. It's the fucked up shotgun pellet spread from scatterguns/shotguns that they fixed

>>147652962
Tf2 has been more alive thanks to OW actually.

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Trade:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28309070

Reminder:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1e8D40L9WWUf5u6nXcpentwXJG7lhcU6tP1-8osrcx4c/viewform

Last time im posting the signup for the tf2g picture, please refrain from signing up if you incredibly new and/or a lurker, last thing we want is a million responses asking who the asshole was that asked to be drawn as something dumb

Lots of love.

>>147653187
By fixed you mean made standard for everyone playing comp :^)

>>147652076
>check update page
>update dropped

>rebalanced pubs
>no more auto-balance
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

add me id/geel9

reminder u need a phone or at least $10 usd to play MM

Q: HOW DO I GET ACCESS TO COMPETITIVE MODE?
A: To gain access to Competitive Mode, you must have a Premium TF2 Account and a qualifying telephone number on Steam. Examples of a telephone number that does not qualify would be a Voice Over IP number (e.g. Skype) or a number linked to a VAC-banned account. (For more information about qualifying phone numbers, please visit the Steam FAQ.)

Q: WHY DO I NEED A PHONE NUMBER?
A: Associating a phone number with a Steam account helps ensure a greater degree of account security and player accountability, which reduces the likelihood of cheating and abuse.

Q: WHAT IF I CAN'T OR DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE A PHONE NUMBER?
A: If you are unable to associate a telephone number with your Steam account, you can purchase a lifetime Competitive Access Pass from the Mann Co. Store. When the Meet Your Match Update goes live, you will be able to buy the Pass at an introductory discount rate of $9.99.

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>>147653905
>Not already putting in a phone so you can trade and use the market

>>147653905
You can have a premium tf2 account for cheaper than 10 dollars though. Also, who is still F2P? I doubt most people playing would be new players.

>>147654051
Heterochromia is so boring.

>>147654051
i've had it
>>147654136
>When the Meet Your Match Update goes live, you will be able to buy the Pass at an introductory discount rate of $9.99.
i assume it's 25% to 50% off

>>147654136
My alt is F2P. I got a description tag yesterday, too.

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well that was lewd

what about performance?

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DIRECT SHIT NERFS FUCKING WHEN

>2 ROCKETS TAKE DOWN A FUCKING LVL 3 SENTRY
WHAT THE FUCK

>>147655286
they haven't even said what they're adding yet
that comes tomorrow
FUCKING WAIT

>>147655281
'no'

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>>147655286
>posting on reddit

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>>147655286
>being le edgy on reddit
fuck off

>>147655281
to be fair, the loch and load does the same thing

guard ur shit better chump

>>147655281
>soldier is effective against a class he was designed to counter
>using a gimmick weapon
nerf bro wtf!!!

>>147655456
loch cant do it from literally across the map

>>147655398
i said the update so far isn't good

>>147655443
>saying something isn't good is being edgy

valve fanboy spotted

Hey, kids. Hope you've all had a blessed and Based Wednesday :)

>>147655690
Stop being an entitled fuccboi, we're finally getting competitive. What else more do you want??

>>147655281
honestly, im more pissed they removed the 15 health bonus from the pocket pistol, so scout had at least some sort of chance of survival

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>ywn have the proof of purchase hat

>>147655774
Getting it sooner
Valve not copying Overwatch
Less degeneracy on Earth

what does ywn mean

>>147655774
competitive has already been a thing for years for anyone that wants to play it

>entitled

you do realize they have made millions off this game in the past few years without even really working on it right

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198130854897
did xhy died

>>147655934
buy the orange box,goes for 2 keys i think on dispenser.tf

>>147656043
That's a horrible haiku

they are too sleepy to type yawn properly

>>147655774
we've had it for years
valve's version sucks

>>147653348
He's right you know, according to steam stats we gained 2500 more on average players since Overwatch came out.

>>147655934
>not deleting the shit out of that hat

that hat sucks

i have a cheaters lament thats way better and also shows that i purchased the game AND that i'm a tf2 veteran

>>147656375
>not deleting the shit out of that hat
I have a WW1 fetish and that hat is nice

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>Just had someone use the argument that TF2 is pay-to-win because you can use cash to "buy all the really powerful weapons"

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>>147656469
how

>>147655582
To be fair Soldier was designed to counter literally every class, because he is the best class.

>>147656230
I wasn't trying to go for one

>Pyro v Heavy update
Dear God, I hope it's just a visual pun thing and not a real theme.
Imagine the crutch weaponry they will introduce...

>>147656375
why would you delete proof of purchase
thats almost as bad as deleting cheaters lament

>>147656514
who
where
when

>>147656578
this is not the right place to talk about that

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>>147656764
ok
id

>>147656719
cause its shit

doe-boy is better

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Just got a new Soldier Legendary

How do you guys like it

>>147656670
I know, I just said it to amuse myself and potentially someone else

i'm dying here 208.78.166.166:27048 (us)

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>>147656724
TF2 vs Overwatch thread.

>>147656992
Did it work?

>>147656874
but doe boy is soldier only

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>>147652076
HOLY SHIT
IT -IS- PYRO VS HEAVY
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>147657176
As far as amusing myself? Yeah

>>147657214
class limits confirmed

>>147657214
next is spy v engi i hope

>>147657109
Free game with over 60 gamemodes and thousands of maps vs:
>40 dollar game with 4 gamemodes and 15 maps
Where is the argument?

>>147657343
>People still not knowing that Spy vs Engineer was the Gun Mettle update.

Overwatchers think tf2 is to old, kek is like saying that HL is bad because is a very old game.

>tfw you dont need to pay more to play competitive

Feels good man

>>147657537
it wasnt called spy v engi
there were more balances to other classes too
how the hell is it spy v engi

>>147657652
It was scrapped Spy v Engi
Craftsmann vs Concealed Killer case
Overall Engi changes, overall Spy changes, both were much bigger than every other class changes.

>pyro vs heavy leaked
>can't find any link

>>147658115
banny is a shitter, don't worry

>>147658115
check the op pic

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>>147658115
https://twitter.com/4G_b4nny/status/750765350984093696

>>147657810
no i meant like there was sniper vs spy, demoman vs soldier, etc

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>this invite player with 19 placings is fucking shit
>take it from me i play comp mvm

>>147658643
That doesn't change how correct >>147657810
's answer is.

no balance changes

I hope pyro wins

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>tfw pyro is gonna win over heavy because of bronies, furries, and general faggots

>>147655281
Become a better engineer

>>147658973
its day 1

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>>147652941
They are just using the casual MM concept from CSGO, nothing to do with overmeme.

It's a nice improvement, you rarely join a casual server in CSGO without it being the 1st or 2nd round.

The level thing was already in use in CSGO too (which is not to be confused with ranks)

IF they make it like CSGO, the first level up of every week gives you a guaranteed weapon drop.

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>>147657109
Usually most of the threads about TF2 vs Overwatch or any sort of generalized TF2 thread on /v/ are shit and have some mentally questionable people who force their horrible opinions.

>>147657214
This makes me really curious as to see how they've handled re-balancing changes from the data they've claimed to be collecting over the past three years.

>>147658186
If that's the case, then how come you aren't playing at invite level then?

>>147658973
Because the update hasn't dropped yet, Einstein.

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>>147659253
>hating the pyro

Predictions for Pyro vs Heavy update:
Pyro gets airblast jump.
Heavy gets a minigun with extra speed when revved up.
Pyro's flamethrower correctly shows flame particle hitboxes
Airblast no longer fails miserably if airblast goes through a teammate
Axtinguisher is getting a buff but still thrash compared to Powerjack
Volcano fragment buffed, still shit.
Heavy gets overall shotgun buff or a lunchbox slot (defaults to sandvich)
Pyro and Heavy will fight for a shotgun
Pyro will still be rekt by Heavy
OP weapon gets buffed and then nerfed to the point of uselessnes.
Crussader's Crossbow gets another buff because why not.
Crit a Cola is killed
Sandman is killed

Fixed glitch where Pyro would occasionally deal damage

Eric

who wants to trade me an item painted a specific color for my same item painted a more expensive color

>>147659360
Because competitive is for tryhard shitters

>>147658903
i dont give a fuck about his answer
it wasn't called the spy vs engineer update, and there was no actual war between them

>>147659687
there was no "war" between the sniper and spy either

git gud at accepting you can be wrong

IM TEAM HEAVY WEAPONS GUY WHOS WITH ME LETS SHIT ON SOME PYROS

>>147659781
>him

:x

>>147659810
there were 3 new weapons added for each class you literal mongoloid

balance changes =/= new weapons

>>147659902
dont start

hello

>>147659253
>impying more bronies, furries and general faggots don't play heavy
Either way, heavy has the most exposure to cancerous medic mains. He loses by default.

Should I sell all of my $200 inventory and splurg on sheit?

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>>147659682
>Because competitive is for tryhard shitters

Sounds perfect for me

>>147659927
still not a war
you're still wrong

>>147659997
raffle

>>147659927
>Adding new weapons
I don't think Valve will ever add new weapons, balancing old ones is already a clusterfuck

Hey guys

If theres a new contract, do you think it will be worth buying if i want profit?

I mean, I got profit from the Gun Mettle contract but for Tough Break, the cases prices plummeted on the first day

>>147660037
you got a forehead on you like a coffee table

>>147660116
they dropped exactly for that reason :3

>>147660192
stable and functional
>>147660116
i made profit on tough break.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10683833
http://www.strawpoll.me/10683833
http://www.strawpoll.me/10683833

>>147652076
What's a good HUD mod for this game? I haven't played in a while.

>>147660386
toonhud

>>147660116
You will still get profit, whether it's double the money or just getting the money back.
I got my money back from Tough Break even though I got pretty much no cases and only civilians.
Speaking of civilians, assuming you can make new stat clocks, people will want to buy them for stranges.

>>147660386
>>147660417
doubled
toonhud is rad af

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even with an update this game is still dead

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>>147660337

>pyro getting any votes

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>liking pyro more than heavy

>>147660386

Commhud, but that shit is dead as fuck. ;_;

Toonhud is my second favorite.

>>147660417
>>147660417

Thanks guys

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It's a shame that Jcapps won't be enjoying the new update

>Pick random gamemode from quickplay
>Pick random class
>Every time I either end up playing soldier or spy
This is actually pretty fun.

>>147660956
what about loadouts

>>147661202
Stock everything for the most part.

>>147660743
it's pretty damn customizable
stock is kinda iffy but once you get around the stock font and a couple of other things it becomes much better

>>147658973
Who would even need changes?

>>147661316
but its not random

How can Pyro even stand a chance against Heavy? Seriously, I know every class counters the Pyro but Heavy super counters the Pyro.

>>147661430
maybe he's getting a rework after all

>>147661417
So? There's only so far out of my comfort zone I'll go.

>>147661430
from far range and around obstacles, pyro has the advantage over heavy

Would you rather drink jarate or mad milk?

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>>147661656
mad milk, watersports is disgusting

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In my 3000h+ of experience I can confidently say that -right now- there are no classes that furries, bronies, and the like tend to flock to all that much.
Most of them tend to play whatever
There was a good period where there were lot of furs and bronies in around the Love & War era who you could clearly tell only played pyro but they seem a lot more rare nowadays.
In fact there are a lot of people in a furry discord that play OW often and they have either moved on from TF2 or were never really interested. Unfortunately I haven't found a single other person who plays TF2 in there. Also the TFP servers are less active in the recent years

>>147660386

TF2+

It's literally just stock hud but objectively better.

>>147661656
Mad Milk, how is this even a question?

>>147661616
But there's no way pubber pyros (aka W+M1 phlog retards) can compete with pubber heavies in their current states

>>147661815
kek I can't wait for phlog fags to taunt so I can take like 3 steps back and rev up and instantly mow them down the second they lose invuln

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>first ranked game
>get locked into a 5v6 because one of our guys never connected
>it counts

I'm surprised this isn't just a carbon copy of Dota's ranked.

>>147661815
Well too bad. They will have to get good. After all, this is what competitive is for.
We need to ditch the whole "it will be hard for pubber" mindset.

>>147661798
>Non-Milk Substance
You don't know what it is

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>>147660386
>all these toonhud responses
disgusting

i prefer eveHUD to stuff like tf2hud+ or improved stock hud

>>147662002
On the other hand, I know exactly what jarate is, so I'll take my chances.

i liked evehud too

>>147662002
I'll drink it and swallow

I like eveHUD three.

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>>147660386
ahud

>>147660386
flamehud

>>147661938
I was once locked into 2v5 with a Mann Co Cap Engineer as my teammate.
It fucking counted...

Only one else here hates the Little Kids, people with no pfp and Mexicans that they encounter playing this game

some of the most bro people I met are young adults with mics, paid accounts and weebs

tell us about your experiences

>>147661656
How bad can mad milk be?
I don't want my insides to take minicrits.

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Guys, what do i replace my shitty medal with?

>All classes now have 0hp/sec regeneration, increasing to 3hp/sec after not taking damage

?

>>147662454
I just mute people I don't like.
But when there is a shitstorm on a pub I unmute them because listening to people not knowing about the mute feature amuses me.

>>147662865
a beard

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>>147662865
Flair! is the obvious choice. Put whatever you want on it! Like a cute anime girl!

>>147663035
remember kids, autism is a disease, not a difference

>>147662885
No.
Only Medic is allowed to be Wolverine by default.

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>check out toonhud
>all these options

desu im only excited for new skins

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what goes well with this

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>you will never drink scout's mad milk

>>147663329
where's the option for a good-looking hud

>>147663496
mutton mann

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Remember when you'd get laughed out of competitive places like TF2Lobby if you picked dumb shit like spy or sniper in 6v6?

I do.

isnt spy like completely useless and retarded in comp 6v6s

it literally only works against braindead players or in 16v16 fuckfests

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Remember guys - matchmaking will have NO class limits, NO weapon limits.

If they spent all this time on competitive and making it work, tomorrow is going to be The Happening Day. Shit's going to go down!!

Balance fixes? Weapon removals?? Weapon additions????? Who knows what the future has to bring for us, what else than surprised and memery from the TF2 team! Tomorrow is going to be good, and it is going to be fucking worth it!

No brakes on the hype train
Let's ride

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>scout mains
reddit tier bindspamming "le salty XD git gud" fags. usually animefags

>soldier mains
animefags who talk shit and take the game way too seriously. never play anything other than soldier. iron highlander participant medal. greatest achievement is going 80-0 on a valve server with a stacked team against f2ps

>pyro mains
bronies, furfags, undertale fags. act like every time they play pyro is their first time ever discovering m2. will try to predict an airblast even when you pull out your shotgun. will get extremely offended by anything. will try to talk shit and call you "le salty" even when you ignore

>demo mains
always a guy at least 20 or older who gets way too mad at every single little thing. will insult anyone for anything. often a publord but not as bad as soldier mains

>heavy mains
either cancer "umad" fags who can only play valve servers with a pocket medic or just normal laidback chill people

>engineer mains
not much really they're just there. usually goes in deep for the kill which can be good or bad. often plays very aggressive and will charge right into anyone blasting them with shotgun

>medic mains
mostly ok except for the ones who have retarded compfag chat binds for everything. none of these binds help they are just "look at me I'm a compfag who thinks he knows what he is doing" binds. they will often try to go for SICK CROSSBOW AIRSHOTS instead of healing their teammate and always taunt after it

>sniper mains
shit talkers basically the same as scout mains but much less binds

>spy mains
children or manchildren. has two unusuals, hales own dead ringer, hales own australium ambassador, and hales own australium knife never anything else. extremely offended by literally everything. will stop in the middle of a fight to respond to an enemy's chat message. if you piss them off they will spend the rest of the game targeting you and will schadenfreude if they get a kill even if surrounded by the rest of your team

>>147664597
all false

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GAS THE HEAVIES WE PYROS NOW

>>147664597
medic mains is true

>>147664369
Seeing how B4nny and several other high level players have been cooperating with the team, I'd be surprised if the update didn't roll out with a fair amount of weapon rebalances.
Then again, Pyro vs. Heavy, guaranteed new skins, probably a heavy case and a pyro case Maybe Pyro vs. Heavy is tied to contracts? a bundle of new taunts, AND rebalances, all in one day of the update seems like a lot.

>Haven't played since mvm update
>Join again because valve finally releases competitive mode

What did I missed.

>>147664982
>Maybe Pyro vs. Heavy is tied to contracts?
what else you stupid idiot
its just like scrapped spy vs engi gun mettle except not scrapped this time

>>147665075
Grammar.

>>147665106
Sorry, my english is bad.

>>147665098
>what else you stupid idiot
A big-ass killfest like Soldier vs. Demoman?
But B4nny's tweet implies it's something different, to hinder 12 pyros vs. 12 heavies, so having a contract, or a window of time where you can contribute to your side of the fight would make sense.

>>147665383
whichever class gets killed the most gets removed from the game

TF2G WE NEED TO MAKE A HEAVY AND MEDIC ALLIANCE TO GUARANTEE HEAVY WEAPONS GUY'S VICTORY. ANY TIME YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SCORE POINTS TOWARDS HEAVY YOU REQUEST A TF2G MEDIC AND WE WILL HELP EACH OTHER OUT AND WE CAN CRUSH THE FURFAG PYROS

>>147665579
no, im to busy

hey who wants to queue with me tomorrow & also give me free hats

>>147665383
>every time you kill as that class, you get a point
>every time you get killed as that class you lose a point
>Heavy ends up with a few thousand points
>Pyro's score is negative

>>147663741
i remember accidentally ubering an enemy spy in one of my first 6v6 lobbies
also remember the community being more open to low lobby players, but still got kicked quite often

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>wait ten minutes for a match
>get matched up against an aimbotting sniper

Back to Dota, I suppose.

>>147666342
was he really aimbotting or are you just butthurt

>>147666342
why is it always the sniper's using cheats
hopefully theres another VAC ban wave
also thats part of the reason they want people to use their phones, so their VAC ban is tied to it

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>>147665749
>tfw sitting in a corner as heavy while Pyros WM+1 at me

>>147666342
why would you go back to a game that would be equally bad at

I hope the new update removes random crits.

>>147666429
Sniper benefits the most from aimbotting, that's why.

>>147666429
>why is it always the sniper's using cheats
because sniper is a hitscan class thats basically invincible with an aimbot

>>147662048
>People who don't use net_graphpropotionalfont "0"

L I T ER A L L Y WHY?

>>147666408
>literally 1v4'd our team with nothing but headshots
>saw me coming as a cloaked spy

>>147666515
it just proves that sniper has the highest skill ceiling

t. sniper main

>>147666635
i agree completely

t. fellow sniper main

is there anything more gratifying than getting a headshot kill on a cloaked spy

i've done it like twice on purpose and it was the best feeling both times

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>>147666635
>it just proves that sniper has the highest skill ceiling

>>147666710
If you pull that off, will you die?

>>147666710
>One of the worst maps in the game
What's your point?

>>147666710
this isn't even impressive compared to some jump maps, yet it proves nothing

>>147666809
It would be extremely painful

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>>147666536
I never knew about that command. I'll be sure to use it if i ever reinstall tf2

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>>147666558
>aim at someone else
>hit a cloaked spy

>>147660386
Communityhud/flamehud.

>>147660730
Fret not. It's kind of not-dead.
https://github.com/mattr0d/flamehud

>>147666706
>TFW this happened to me
>Except I was the spy
Is there a worse class in the game?

>>147666710
>useless jumps on irrelevant map

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>>147666956
>Know cloaked spy is running towards somewhere
>Predict where he will go
>Shoot pill
>See it explode mid-air
>Shot another pill
>Spy dies
>Taunt

UNLESS

you know what i haven't seen in a long time

sticky traps

everyone just airbursts now

Where can I go to see a guide on how to make my TF2 characters look like other characters

Such as this guy >>147663035 who made his look like Mugi

>>147667679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4G0HTIUBlI

>>147667679
>Needing a guide
Just screw around on loadout.tf until you get something passable.

>>147667479
>spread a buncha stickies under a health kit of high traffic area (Top of tower in Hightower, Health Kits of turbine, That one weird health kit at the end of the tunnel on swiftwater) and just corral them into it with pipes
>>147667679
it's called being imaginative you fuck

>>147667479
>>>/lgbt/

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ooohh i hope they dont buff pyro

What is the best way to remove a hud? Just replace it with another one? I can't remember where I installed the last one.

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>General suddenly fills with /v/ autists the moment an update is announced

Kindly leave

>>147667917
It's in your custom folder.

>>147667839
cant post sticky traps on lgbt, its a sfw board

>>147667479
Sticky traps only work on F2P's, just like trickstabs.

just humanpost until everyone is gone

that's what we do for the rest of the year

DRAWING UPDATE WHERE

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>>147667949
>:x
>you are not me
>other tripfag posts

honestly just shove a pinecone up your ass, it's refreshing to have people actually talking about the game

>>147668261
>>147653468

>>147668306
>He
:x

>>147668306
>he doesn't filter human

your problem faggot

>>147667108
jumps are cool tho
and nailing them feels great

>>147668110
Thanks brah

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>reflecting soldier rockets as pyro is hard relative to soldier just shooting

okay but for real, any tips for improving on my reflecting? I can reflect most soldier but some are straight up unpredictable or shoot at my feet

also what is this heavy vs pyro shit?

>>147668239
Not if you hide them.

There's so many rocks you can place them in on upwards first point it's a little ridiculous, and I every time without fail on pubs neglect to avoid those rocks because I have never seen anyone other than me use them there.

Best thing is when you know a Medic is coming right for your sentry with an uber and you know he'll pass your rocks.

>>147668856
dont fucking play pyro, you faggot
>>147668976
>slap on the top /bottom of sliding metal exit doors
people always fall for that shit, sometimes more that once

>>147669165
lmao why the hate on pyro?

>>147668856
its super easy to get messed up by a soldier
if he starts alternating shotgun shots and rockets, don't try to predict anything because you will just end up dying embarrassingly
best bet is to just shotgun and backpedal if he's good
if he's bad, you just have to place yourself into his feet, and predict when he would shoot as if he was you

>>147668856
>>147669165
>>147669313
I honestly wish pyro would move away from that dumb airblasting and combo shit, and move towards being a DM class

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>tfw Heavy and Pyro are both my mains
Oh man this update is going to be great.

>>147669479
they tried to do that
but turns out a class with a primary that doesn't require aiming, doesn't reload, and doesn't have spin up is too easy to deal damage with

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>>147669313
cool, so just run away and shoot if hes good.
then he rocket jumps at me and shoots me from above B) B)

Soldiers still annoy the hell out of me. i remember on Orange Box I had no choice but to eat their shit

>>147669479
I dunno. I like the current Pyro but I don't think I'd mind that.

>human

:x

>>147669672
if he jumps into you then he's fucking retarded
you can fucking bet he will shoot a rocket from mid air
plus when he gets close to you, he's just going to get fucked

>>147660556
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

>>147669672
You're just finding out now that Pyro is a horribly designed class?

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Is it gay to play as the Medic, honest

no Healslut memes

>>147670216
>is it gay to do a thing that has nothing to do with sexuality at all

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>top 10 in steam since like 2008
>never been lower in the last 8 years AFAIK
>dead

>>147664597
Demo is true for me at least. I get rather salty if my pipes are shit.

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>>147669635
the flamethrower is a projectile weapon with travel time. It needs to not be so forgiving if an enemy is close ranged,
but also needs to go farther.

This would give pyros a way to be good at DM, basically you won't hit the enemy if you can't fucking aim the particles.

However, the particles would move farther, where they would be even more difficult to hit, but would do damage

An enemy player could strafe left and right, move forwards and back, to try to guess where the pyro is going to shoot next and dodge the flames. If they are close to the pyro, they have a chance at out-playing the pyro

>>147659253
soldier is bronies, faggots & weeaboos
pyro is just furfags
heavy is autistic people

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Have not been in tf2g in years. This new competitive might be fun.

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>>147670309
woah, steam used to be so tiny compared with the widespread usage it has today

do bronies still exist
i think they are thinning out

>>147670397
this implies that valve is ready to completely redo a stock weapon
its probably not going to happen
many things are balanced around pyro shooting a wide cone of flames, and there's no way to tell what's going to break if you do include this
but i agree

>>147670397
its not a projectile weapon
it shoots small hitboxes of fire particles wich work differently from projectile weapons
energy weapons also use fire particles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BFm82SFsYs

>>147670397
literally off yourself
this is the worst idea i've ever seen try to be applied to the pyro

The hitboxes on flames have, and always will be retarded, extending it by twice as much as you've poorly shown, would only mean more whack ass hit detection then ever

Your image is only plausible if we considered it had no contact damage, and only applied afterburn, in which the pyro would just harass from forefver away, but not really do much (which he already can, thanks to the flaregun, detonator, and scorch shot, you fucking idiot)

>>147670143
i guess so, I didn't pay too much attention to shit and just played. But now, looking at stuff, yeah.

oops

>>147664597
So who are you

>>147670659
i know its a pipe dream, but ty

>>147670734
its still a box that moves and collides with players, like a rocket would. projectile-type weapons are very good in arena shooters where movement is very precise and controllable, rewarding players for out-DM'ing someone else

>>147666710
>that webm
I hate this meme mechanic

>>147670821
simply because the hitboxes don't perform properly because of a bug does not mean pyro shouldn't be a subject of scrutiny

not an argument

>>147664369
no random criticals tho

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i miss this hud

*w+m1 + combos into thread*

Hey guis did i miss any epic pyro discussion xP hes my favourite class

o/) brohoof fellow pybros xD

>>147670958
it doesnt collide
it doesnt knockback
the only similarity with projectiles is that it uses the big projectile hitbox instead of the hitreg hitbox
>Upon pressing primary fire, the weapon will expel a stream of large flame particles at roughly 23 particles of flame each second, in what is roughly a narrow cone, at a cost of 12.5 ammunition per second.
you can learn more about projectiles in TF2 wiki where its clearly defined what they are

>>147671546
that's not what I'm talking about.

what I mean is, a 3D object in the game world that travels as something that does damage works well in arena shooters

Having a gun that shoots 3D objects works well in a game like TF2 because TF2 is an arena shooter, and thus the flamethrower has the most potential for making pyro a fun class to play as, as well as against

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing

For /tf2g/s who don't have any friends.

>>147671810
well, im not sure if its exactly an arena shooter, but its closer to being one than overwatch or Doom's 4 multiplayer
i think a change i would like on pyro is having the flames actually represent where damage is going instead of being just visual, and almost all the time offset from where the fire particles actually go
or just change the way it fires or something so that it matches the visuals

>>147671810
I'd love the flamethrower to be an arced lightning gun.

Holy crap, looks like everyone from 2013 isn't here anymore.

>>147669672
that's why flares are best: guaranteed burst damage at varied ranges.
Don't be afraid to w+m1 his shit either; good soldiers will wait for you to spaghetti reflect if you think you're good, so take the initiative.

>>147672735
>Flares
>Better than the shotgun
>Any year

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What if we gave Pyro a shotgun slot and a flaregun slot

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>>147671934
Well if anything else, we should at least do better than reddit.

>>147672843
>shitscans
pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

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>>147672612
what does arcen mean
the lightgun is great practice for tracking but i hate the huge knockback it does in quake live

who ready for an /axtinguisherbuff/ tomorrow?

>>147672702
I am.

>pyro vs. heavy
>will probably fight over some new shotgun

what stats will it have

>>147672702
Still here, albeit a bit dissapointed.

>>147672979
clicking mouse1 will uninstall your game

>>147672853
what if we give pyro a flamethrower that allows him to "rocket jump" if he airblasts the ground
-30% damage or something

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>>147672928

>>147671934
Why was this taken out of the OP when it's most needed?

>>147673105
that would be interesting
but with a less exxagerated arc
so it would be some kind of "lava" thing coming out of the flamethrower doing that arc?

>>147671934
how do I get on that list?

>Pyro vs Heavy
>Unpushable Last: The Update

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>>147673337
i think this is what anon had in mind
like a narrow arced stream of small projectiles instead of the gaseous cloud it is now

>>147673456
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1s1lDqsvLqtH-w_PEyUOKEeH_bnueC5kIMBY8gaopoUg/viewform

>>147673105
there should be a rocket launcher with an arc

Is TF2 picky about the wav files it uses for hitsounds and killsounds? I can not seem to get my custom ones to work at all. I have my files in the appropriate folder. Should I replace the default hitsounds with mine?

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>>147673527
Righteous fire and brimstone you fuck. Where do shitscans factor into that?

>>147670591
Which makes you wonder how our perception changes.

If i'm going to buy a multiplayer game on steam sale and it has less than 5k players I feel like it's a "DED GAME" and I lose any motivation to buy it.

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sad day for EU TF2
one of the best TF2 caster's ever, and top lad in general

>>147673927
what if we also add the ability to make it explode in mid air?

>>147673938
It's a proven fact that pyro mains hate the shotgun because it takes skill to use, something their class isn't used to.

All pyro mains are degenerates.

Ergo: You're a degenerate.

>>147673927
it's called the grenade launcher

>>147674270
pills dont explode on impact

>tfw too poop to play competitive

>>147674234
>hitscan weapon
>taking skill

>>147674329
i've been practicing like hell since two weeks ago

If the heavy and pyro thing for tomorrow was a vote to see what class leaves
http://www.strawpoll.me/10684941
>>147674329
you are never too poop
there will always be other poops to play with

Where are people reading this is gonna be a Heavy v Pyro update?

>>147674234
>shitscans
>skill
heehee point and click AM I GOOD YET MA

Not a pyro main. Main roamer, but I use shotgun in mge. Pious enough for you?

>>147674567
From the leaked blog image that's in the OP.

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>>147674397
Do you know how much of a demand there is for scouts with good, consistent scattergun aim that can constantly land meatshots?

If it's so easy why don't you go get big as a scout?

We both know you couldn't get higher than gold if you tried despite how easy to claim hitscans to be.

>>147674567
theeres a day 2 update picture that shows a parody of the presidential US thing or whatever with BLU heavy and BLU pyro

>>147674583
>Roamer
>The least impactful role in any 6s team

You sure showed me.

>>147660386
Woomyhud

>>147674629
>Someone who thinks hitscan is easy
>Getting past Silver
>Getting past Steel and still contributing

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i dont know, flamethrower is kinda broken but pyro has been nerfed so much already its not even fun anymore

i think the heavy large healthpool slows down the game much more and makes the game less fun for

also, pic related is an interesting theory about what that debate-like picture means

>>147675056
IT'S MEAT VS MATCHES

MEET YOUR MATCH

>>147675056
Hence why everyone thinks the class needs a rework. The skill floor and ceiling is incredibly low to the point where near-retards can play plat Pyro, but the class is so weak that there is almost never a time when you want a Pyro instead of another class.

>>147674781
>what is uber advantage
>who fixes fuck-ups
and that's only when I bother playing comp; I spend way more time in mge.
and you main?

>>147674027
F

@147675452
MGELORD DETECTED

DO NOT REPLY

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is australian TF2 always this cringey? i heard they go a little crazy with constant hackusations too

>>147675408
And captain point-and-shoot around corners has a sub-retard skill floor, but can be used to great effect with a medic jammed up his ass. And oh are those faggots willing to oblige.

Both classes desperately need reworked.

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>>147675452
>what is uber advantage
>who fixes fuck-ups

Serious question.

Do you think the pocket and the roamer are the same thing?

>and you main?
Demo

i sent an email

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>>147675056
>also, pic related is an interesting theory about what that debate-like picture means
Even fucking b4nny admitted it's Heavy v Pyro. The jigs up, Jill.

If TF2 is gonna be copying from Overwatch, can they make the Medic fly to teammates? Please and thank you

>>147675795
no I do-
>demo
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>147675728
Difference is Soldier has a skill ceiling (even though his skill floor is incredibly low), which is why not that many people complain.

>>147659682
its ok you're not good

Quick-Fix was released before Mercy

Reminder to hide, report, and not respond to all BasedViva posts.

>>147675917
Are you upset that Demo is more important, will do more damage, get more kills, and have less deaths, and takes more skill than roamer?

>>147676201
He's an MGElord. Do not respond to him. He's an idiot.

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TF was originally Quake TF
what if things turned around and someone made a TF2: Arena (as in arena-shooter)
>Scout has shotgun, pistol replaced with short-range lightgun
>Soldier merged with sniper: rocket launcher and railgun, walks at normal speed but doesnt have a big HP advantage
>Demo stickies dont take a full second to det but you can only place up to 4
>sniper is just a guy with a railgun
>medic exists but has plasmagun AND crossbow-like weapon that only heals, doesnt do damage
i would be so addicted if this was a thing

>>147656375
>faggot's lament

How do I consistently find servers without hats/weapons

>>147676201
>more important
situationally, as with every other class
>will do more damage
raw numbers yes
>get more kills
frags are everything amirite m1m2m1m2
>takes more skill
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jesus, at least I can stop fucking around whenever I want and play pocket. You're doomed to spam and suck cock.

>yfw pyro gets a 50% range buff across the board tomorrow

@147676475
>Kill enemy team
>Enemy team can not stop you from capturing objective
>Win game
I'm not seeing how frags are not everything in this game.

>>147676406
woops, meant to delete the railgun thing for soldier

>>147676469
what
you mean like, servers with bots?
there used to be a few vanilla servers, don't know what happened to those
also you can get the no hats mod

>stickyspams and kills a scunt every so often
>celebrates

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>there's people in thisvery

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>>147676836
>Ubered pocket gets blasted a mile away by stickies he didn't see
>Launch pipe
>It hits him as he flies through the air as the uber ends
>He craters

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i love toonhud

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>>147677025
Huh, the class that frequently falls asleep is played by dreamers. Funny that.

>>147676765
I mean servers with only the original weapons or until the first weapon packs for every class.
Got into the game again after five years and I hate this clusterfuck of random weapons

>>147677203
uh
is that comic sans