/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

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Gotta build fast!

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nth for MASTER PLAN

>>147651791
>techno base is undefendable

Elaborate.

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>>147652219

>>147652219

i didn't need to see that

>>147652553
Techno Base is probably the one level of that game that best validates the "screen size is too small" complaint.

I don't usually complain about cheap pit deaths but the number of them in that stage is just inexcusable because a lot of the level design is kinda misleading and really good at making you die in ways you couldn't if you could see more of the screen.

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>>147652219

>>147652219
Oh god. I didn't need to be reminded of this.

It was pretty fun making it, though.

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>>147652219
the master emerald prayer has NOTHING TO DO WITH SUPER FORMS REE

Is it wrong that, while I liked the story and thought the characters and art were cute, I didn't find Mega Drive that funny?

I don't know, maybe I've seen too many reaction images that I've become used to it.

I'm still glad I bought it though, I'd love to see more one-off comics in this ilk. Why can't we get some Sonic 'what-if' Elseworld style stories?

>>147653537
>super form gives bigger tits

>>147653690
>Is it wrong that, while I liked the story and thought the characters and art were cute, I didn't find Mega Drive that funny?
I didn't find it funny either, but I really don't find anything super funny anymore unless I'm sleep deprived.

>>147653690
I avoided the dump in the last thread, still waiting for my copy to show up.
Though from the previews I saw they used that old ass giant enemy crab meme, so I'm a little worried about the rest of it.

>>147653851
It's not so much that as much as much as it didn't even make me chuckle or giggle even. And I tend to get roused to laugher fairly easily, I just feel like I've missed something.

>>147653942
I've still got to pick up my copy, as I saw it yesterday in the plastic nerd crap depository (formerly known as a comic book shop) I felt like I could cheat a little and read it here.

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>>147653465
>It was pretty fun making it, though.

You owe us some explanations here Anon.

>>147654203
Sure. Ask away. It's been 6 years. I've heard it all.

>>147654349
What made you want to do this?

>>147654132
I dunno, anon. Maybe it's just a miss instead of a hit humorwise and nothing more.

>>147653840
Of course. Why wouldn't it?

>>147654703
Maybe, humour is subjective, I just wanted to see if anyone else didn't find it that funny. Certainly that 'Giant Enemy Crab' reference made me cringe a little. Really I feel this comic is good because it's wonderfully illustrated and makes for a nice nostalgia trip, along with the character interactions.

>>147654561
The film in question was for Sonic's 19th Anniversary celebration. There was a video contest issued by SEGA of America much like the one that's going on in EU right now. You could make a video up to 5 minutes showing your dedication to the Sonic franchise. The winner would get an all-expenses-paid trip to SEGA of Japan to play Sonic 4 before anyone else. (Bear in mind that this is before we knew that it would suck.)

After a couple weeks of writing, filming and editing, Tim and I launched it to YouTube. We made it into the top 10 submissions before getting knocked out by the finalists.

>>147655091
Oh. Well at least you did it for a good reason.

>>147654884
Of course, I was entertained by it for sure and felt it was good overall and the next one has my interest especially with Metal Sonic being apart of it.

>>147655408
Well, yeah. Of course. That level of autism needs SOME direction behind it, right?
I have to say that it's pretty cathartic to reflect on that time in my life. It was just about exactly 6 years ago.

>>147655091
is tim your brother or your bf?

>>147653690
it isn't funny. the mainline comics aren't ever funny either.

it's just cute.

>>147656094
Neither. He's my best friend from high school. We do sometimes get confused for brothers, though. We even have the same middle name, funnily-enough.

>>147654349
Were you Shadow or Sonic?

>>147656546
I was Sonic: The guy running super fast in that one webm that gets passed around.

So what are the chances of Genesis of a Hero having the same art style as the recent Mega Drive comic? Never read Archie Sonic before today..but holy shit I loved that comic!

>>147656784
Kinda a bad intro, since the comics aren't like that.

>>147656643
You're this guy? >>147589221

>>147656784
They're in the same continuity, so it should be pretty similar.

>>147656784
None. It'll presumably just be some flashback story.
Though there's a Mega Drive sequel coming out eventually so there'll be more of that style soon.
Thank you based Hesse.

>>147656971
Yessir. The very same.

>>147656685
Wow, the comics of old read like a high school story. It's kinda weird.

>>147657095
If it takes place in the Genesis game-era, as does the one shot, why wouldn't it make use of the same art style?

>>147653690
The structure is fine, but the dialogue is incredibly flat.

>>147656881
Nothin, just saw you postin stuff to e621. Just aggressively sayin hi.

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>>147657154
Hoo boy you have no idea.

>>147657115
You absolute madman

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>>147652219
>You will never go fast with Sonic
Should have killed myself a long time ago.

>>147657270
I have come to peace with this.

Though, I'm honestly a little surprised that you actually believe that I'm The Sonic Kid without any proof. Either you folks don't care that much, or you're awfully trusting.
Regardless, yeah. Those were good times.

>>147657330
You can if you get your friend to drive slowly with the camera pointing out the passenger-side window and then speed up the footage like we did.

>>147651948
>OP isn't the image ABT did of bump last thread.

Seriously?

>>147657581
We're saving it for #500.

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>>147644857
If you don't think this is the cutest shit then get the fuck out of my face

>>147657270
Wow, it's suppose to be serious but I can't stop laughing.

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>>147657154

>>147657690
It's pretty cute.

>>147657901
>we want the anime audience

>>147657690
do blaze RIGHT MEOW

>>147657508
>Though, I'm honestly a little surprised that you actually believe that I'm The Sonic Kid without any proof.
Honestly, why would anyone lie about being the sonickid

>>147657690
Great job, that's super cute.

Hello /sthg/! I assume this question has already been asked many many times in the past but I'm going to ask it anyway, where should I start with the comics and how should I read them?
Should I start at the beginning but skip through specific issues, or should I just start after the reboot?
I know pretty much nothing about the comics, apparently it started off well, got shit, got good again, got into a lot of legal trouble, "lol we reset the universe" and that's about it. I read the mega drive comic today and enjoyed it.
Also, any good tv shows? I've watched the movie, and I watched the first five (or something like that) episodes of the Sonic Boom series (might continue). When I was younger The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog aired on TV but I can't remember if it was any good.
Also, any good obscure Sonic games? I've completed the majority of sonic games, even the bad stuff, but maybe there is some great obscure game released on a portable device or something like that.

>>147657690
>>147658285
I second this motion

>>147658483
Depends.

Start at the reboot if you don't care about bullshit

The first few comics were pretty shitty and corny, then it got good, then it got bad, then it got worse

About the issues you should skip, well, I'm not sure. I don't know the comic numbers by heart, but I know there's a guide somewhere in the general, maybe the pastebin in the OP

I myself read em all, along with the specials, for nostalgia reasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_c2RLiCHSk

>>147658483
mega drive is a little better than the mainline comics

lower your expectations

>>147658483
Where you start in the comics depends entirely on your tolerance for dumb shit and endurance. If you think you can, go from the beginning. If you want to experience just the good, start from 1 and go until you don't like it, skip to 160 and go from there. The reboot is the easiest choice and is better to know moving forward even if it isn't amazing.

>>147658373
Good point.

>>147658483
Read the reboot.

AoStH and SatAM are okay. AoStH is more of a Looney Tunes-type show, whereas SatAM is more serious. Underground is good if you want to laugh at something shitty.

Sonic Triple Trouble and Sonic Chaos are good. And, while not technically obscure, Colors DS and Generations 3DS are also pretty good.

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>>147658483
You can start from the beginning if you want and enjoy lol the ride.

There's 2 ongoing comics: Sonic The Hedgehog (StH) - the main one - and Sonic Universe (SU) - which focuses on characters other than Sonic.
Sonic Universe mostly contains side stories but is often better than the main comic so still worth reading.

StH #160 Ian Flynn comes in, the current writer.
StH #252 and SU #52 are the where the reboot starts so you can just start from there then go back and read old issues if you wish.

This is a not-up-to-date list of the comics in reading order, so just follow this when you've decided your starting point.

>>147658483
Start with the first Sonic/Mega Man crossover, Worlds Collide. It was designed partially to help get non-comic Sonic and Mega Man fans into the comics and leads directly into the reboot. After that, start with Sonic #252 and Sonic Universe #55. Skip the second crossover, Worlds Unite, completely. Once you've caught up to us, go back and start picking at the pre-reboot material.

For cartoons, there are five. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was a wacky comedy show. "Sonic the Hedgehog" (everyone calls it SatAM) was a more serious action-drama that ran alongside AoStH. Sonic Underground happened a few years later and turned the plot into "Sonic and his twin brother and sister who are all voiced by the same guy are actually royalty and travel the world trying to find their mom while singing." It's generally considered garbage. Sonic X is an anime show generally criticized for too much focus on human OCs instead of the Sonic characters. Sonic Boom is more situational comedy, and is getting a second season this fall. There's also an animated movie OVA from the late 90s that's pretty good.

As for obscure games, any of the 8-bit ones are usually brought up. Play/emulate the Master System ones on the Master System for increased screen size. Don't play/emulate them on Game Gear unless they're a Game Gear exclusive.

>>147658989
Don't forget about Sonic X. Despite its overwhelming focus on the self-insert human characters it's the closest to the games in terms of lore.

>>147659096
Worlds Unite had its good moments, it's worth a read I think obviously not as good as the first one. Unless you're talking about it not having any relevance to the plot at all.

>>147659096
worlds collide was pretty bad too.

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Is there an archive of The Ride threads anywhere? I need it for some reason.

>>147659527
Fireden, but the images are likely gone.

>>147658719
that song brings back memories, I forgot it had a lot of the comics on it, did it have all of them? I never read them on it though.

>>147658749
don't worry, they are pretty low

>>147658783
I think I'll just start from the reboot

>>147658989
I'll check some of those out

>>147659084
thanks, that'll be helpful

>>147659096
i remember playing some of the 8-bit games on either mega collection or gems collection, I'll need to find those games and try them again

>>147659137
subbed or dubbed? Just kidding, not kidding.

Anyway, thanks for all the info, gonna go run fast now, see ya!

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>>147659645
>subbed or dubbed? Just kidding, not kidding.
Honestly, watch both. Watch the sub first because it's better for obvious reasons, but the dub is interesting as you hear the 4kids cast gradually get a hang of the voices, leading to them being cast for the games for a few years.

>>147659645
>subbed or dubbed? Just kidding, not kidding.
Sub for quality, but in terms of importance to the franchise, the dub is actually quite important, since the most famous VAs for Sonic and co started with X, including Pollock

>>147658483
I would say start with flynn's run at 160 and read the wiki for background info

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>>147659887
Beat me to it.

>>147659645
>gonna go run fast now, see ya!
Go sit in the corner.

>>147659645
>I'll need to find those games and try them again

Just grab Fusion, it's the best pre-Saturn SEGA emulator.

http://www.carpeludum.com/kega-fusion/

>>147659645
>I think I'll just start from the reboot
Happy reading. I do recommend to check out some pre-reboot stories in the future as there is great stuff within it along with where many consider the golden age of the comics to be.

Really, some anons should make a list of great pre-reboot stories for people skipping the pre-reboot.

>>147659793
> implying I've got time to watch both shit, what do you mean I do have time to watch both?! i have a life, oh wait... nevermind
I'll maybe watch it subbed at some point then if I'm bored as shit one day.

>>147659887
don't give a fuck about the importance to the franchise

>>147659958
Jokes on you, I love sitting in the corner

>>147659964
They're in my cupboard, can't be bothered downloading shit

>>147660025
I'll probably go back and read the old shit if I finish with the new shit.

>>147652219
why

>>147653840
This is how anime works
This is how Japan works

>>147660025
>some anons should make a list of great pre-reboot stories for people skipping the pre-reboot.
I'd love to see this too.
I have little experience of the pre-reboot stuff - and that experience consists of garbage I looked at just to see how bad it got.
There must be some good stuff from back then.

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Knuckles is the best character

>>147660446
i think the idea is supposed to be that her body 'grows up' more. she's drawn taller and more mature-looking besides just her bust size.

i just like it because i like non-gold super form art a whole lot.

>>147660510
Some stories that come to mind are

Treasure Team Tango (most of Universe really)
200
The issues with LIMIT
Forged in Fire
Thicker than Water
Return to Angel Island
Stargazing (good enough to basically be redone in the reboot)

>>147660510
Just a list off the top of my head
>Return to Angel Island
>All of issue 23
>Thicker than Water (217-218)
>Sonic 25
>The first Shard story
>Father and Son (Or whatever the backup where Jules BTFO Scourge)
>The Tails Adventure
>Issue 175
>Treasure Team Tango (Probably the best option for newcomers since it requires the least knowledge of continuity so anyone can jump right in)
>Forged in Fire
>Super Sonic vs Hyper Knuckles is decent
>Stargazing
Did I miss anything?

Are any of you against the addition of new characters in the franchise whether it be the games or the comics? That's seems to be a complaint many fans make when asked why the series has deteriorated recently

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>>147660025
>>147660510

>>147661115
I'd rather they use who they have previously introduced.

>>147650583

No, Sonic 4 retcons the games to be Sonic 2-Sonic 3 and Knuckles together, no mention of Sonic 1.

Sonic 4 Episode 1 is immediately after Sonic 3 and Knuckles. Sonic 4 Episode 2, Sonic CD's happened already. So we know that unless Sonic CD is between Sonic 4 episodes, it has to happen before Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

Sonic 3 and Knuckles happens a week or so after Sonic 2. Unless we shove Eggman having an entirely new and different plan while also being concerned with tricking Knuckles and getting the Death Egg started again, nothing happens in that week or so. So now we have an unbreakable block from Sonic 2 to Sonic 4 Episode 2.

This leaves Sonic CD to necessarily occur before Sonic 2. Going by Japanese materials, Sonic 1 is the first time Eggman's going after the Chaos Emeralds using badniks that use animals as batteries, so the anon's theory that CD comes before since it uses flowers as batteries can technically work. I'd prefer it after Sonic 1, though- I feel having CD be the literal first game in the timeline's too early considering the personal vendetta touch of Metal Sonic.

Thus, the more likely timeline, game-wise at least, becomes

Sonic 1 -> Sonic CD -> Sonic 2/Sonic 3/Sonic and Knuckles/Sonic 4 Episode 1 -> Sonic 4 Episode 2 (with the arrows indicating where there's some empty time between games).

>>147661115
In the games? Yes because there is a substantial enough cast to support a self contained story in a game and a lot of characters go unutilized
In the comics? No as long as the new character adds something substantial or interesting and has an actual niche instead of just taking up space or overshadowing the main cast. I have less of a problem with it because a lot of the game characters are still heavilty utilized as of the reboot. But in general >>147661234 is accurate

>>147661115
they have a hard time using new characters more than once, much less in any effective ways and i'd say that's the real root of the problem.

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>>147661105
What's the one called when Mighty went searching for his sister, a heartbreaker, but I think it was good enough to be included.

>>147661115
I'm not against the addition of new characters provided they serve a purpose that isn't served by someone else, while preferring they use who they already have whenever possible. I didn't mind the Freedom Fighters back when there were literally three game characters period, but right now there's enough game characters to give Sonic a good supporting cast without needing the Freedom Fighters, for example. That said, there are some niches that are unfilled in the games, and new characters would work if done carefully.

>>147657901
Ewww. Why?

>>147661115
I thought sticks was decent, although I get the feeling she there so there isnt just one female main character.

put it this way, if they announced a new character I wouldn't be meh about it.

>>147659778
That's cute as fuck.

>>147661442
Chaotix Quest? The second half was great, but I remember the first half being just alright.
>>147661510
>I didn't mind the Freedom Fighters back when there were literally three game characters period, but right now there's enough game characters to give Sonic a good supporting cast without needing the Freedom Fighters, for example.
I kind of agree but at the same time think that the FFs are good in that they're allowed to grow and change, which for a comic like this, is important

>>147661661
The problem with the Freedom Fighters now is that there are 10 characters in Sonic's main party, which makes it impossible for anyone to grow and change. The game characters have enough room to stretch out even with mandates, and the FFs would be better off as recurring guests one or two at a time.

>>147661913
Fair enough. I think something along the lines of Sonic and Tails with the FFs appearing a bit less frequently and having them do their own thing would work, does that seem good?

>>147662081
psshhh what naaaah you fucking sega purist

What purpose does Tails serve in the comics?
He's trumped in every regard by someone else.

>>147661572
If that was the case I wonder why they didn't use Rogue the bat, Cream the rabbit, Blaze the cat, Wave the swallow or Marine the raccoon or even Tikal. I mean it's not like they don't mind re writing the cast to fit the setting and lore certainly is not standing in their way considering Knuckles has no Angel Island or Master Emerald to be tied to nor is Shadow a lab experiment by Eggman's grandpappy. Metal Sonic is the only character who retained his origin.

>>147662259
>Cream the rabbit
Now you're just being silly

>>147662230
Honestly we could extend that question to the games, though it's less him being outclassed there and more him doing literally fucking nothing ever, outside of Lost World but that's also the game where his character was horrendously butchered
>>147662259
Because none of them fit the kind of comedy archetype they wanted.

>>147661268
>no mention of Sonic 1
The first paragraph of the manual (https://web.archive.org/web/20130307070417/http://sonicthehedgehog4.com/us/) is literally a summary of Sonic 1. The following paragraph connects Sonic 1 & 2 together in the span of a few days.

>Sonic 4 Episode 1 is immediately after Sonic 3 and Knuckles
No it's not. It's just "some time" after S3&K. Sonic CD can easily fit into "some time"

>Sonic 3 and Knuckles happens a week or so after Sonic 2
No, it happens immediately after Sonic 2.

There are two possibilities for the timeline:

Sonic CD -> Sonic 1/Sonic 2/Sonic 3 & Knuckles -> Sonic 4 Episode 1 -> Sonic 4 Episode Metal -> Sonic 4 Episode 2

Sonic 1/Sonic 2/Sonic 3 & Knuckles -> Sonic CD -> Sonic 4 Episode 1 -> Sonic 4 Episode Metal -> Sonic 4 Episode 2

>>147661375
most characters are made for a single purpose with no consideration for long term appearances, It's that sort of thing they do better in the comics.

>knuckles was made for S3&K
>shadow was for SA2
>Babylons for riders
>Blaze for Rush
and so on

It makes me think they should only use the characters once (or direct sequels) and then store them away. They can reappear but only in things like the Olympic and Sega racing.

It's a pity that the RPG and story book series' failed because it would be a good way to handle them. Boom will be added to this list.

>>147662515
>It makes me think they should only use the characters once (or direct sequels) and then store them away. They can reappear but only in things like the Olympic and Sega racing.
Isn't that what they've kind of done with the main cast outside of the main 4 plus Eggman, Orbot, and Cubot?

>>147662230
Being cute and being the poster boy of universe arcs focused on comic characters without needing to do anything relevant.

>>147662607
actually your right, I must be thinking of the series as a whole because yes, there's always a spin off but the main series has really trimmed the fat. generations being the one (understandable) exception

>>147662838
>generations being the one (understandable) exception
And it's also the most aggravating exception because they all act as glorified cheerleaders, even in the final battle where at least 2 of them can go super.

>>147662939
To be fair, Time Eater was piss-easy and Shadow and Silver likely knew that.

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>>147662462
>The first paragraph of the manual (https://web.archive.org/web/20130307070417/http://sonicthehedgehog4.com/us/) is literally a summary of Sonic 1. The following paragraph connects Sonic 1 & 2 together in the span of a few days.

I'm sorry, you're right, forgot it talked about Sonic 1. It doesn't connect it in the span of a few days, though- it just says Sonic 1 happened and "the reunion is short lived" before Sonic 2. Don't know, considering Sonic 4's story wasn't written with entire knowledge of the fluff (it places Knuckles' story at the same time as Sonic's, remember?), it needs to be taken with a "true until contradicting what the games said years ago" stance, in which case I think you can easily accept Sonic CD (and even, as some do, SEGASonic The Hedgehog!) in between 1 and 2 (especially since development-wise that's what makes the most sense).

>No it's not. It's just "some time" after S3&K. Sonic CD can easily fit into "some time"
It's as much "some time" as Sonic 1 and 2, dude. But what else can you put here? I do admittedly seem to be remembering things that aren't here (hadn't someone at the time justified the reuse of Badniks as "Eggman's resources haven't recovered yet after the Death Egg plan"?)

>>147662431
>Because none of them fit the kind of comedy archetype they wanted.
Sticks is a hyperactive totally random nutbar. Marine is chaos incarnate she could of fit that if they wanted to use her. I mean every time Marine is on screen she tends to fuck up and get yelled at doesn't she? I don't remember her doing anything right in the treasure island arc nor do I remember her doing anything to help defeat Metal Sonic besides piss Shadow off severely by telling him she made up being as skilled as Tails at dimensional travel. In fact, thinking on it now, Marine is awful and can only be fixed by developing her into not being a screw up but by not being a screw up she's no longer Marine. I doubt the comic can salvage her.

>>147662607
but there is the Boom titles. Boom didn't suck because they wanted multiple characters playable but it didn't actually show how fun that could be.

>>147660985
>>147661105
I really liked Enerjak Reborn

>>147663298
I can only think of 2 times Marine has ever been used in the comics, but to be fair it's kind of hard to use Marine often, given that she's from a different dimension and all that, and doesn't have the Sol Emerald excuse Blaze can pull out

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>>147661105
Tails' adventure happened already
in last universe :^)

>>147657901
fuck it i'm going to start reading from here

>>147657508
I was reading the reply chain and wondering just that. Do you have any proof of what you're claiming? It would be much more interesting with some.

>>147664530
You insane bastard

anybody got some cool sonic wallpapers?

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>>147662705
>not the poster fox boy.

One job anon.

>>147657690
Blaze or Sticksď

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>>147658285
>>147658694
>>147665140
I gotchyu bros

>>147665183
Classic Vanilla pls

>>147665332
Wouldn't that just be Cream?

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WHEN'S STORYTIME!?

>>147665423
be careful what you wish for...

>>147665183
very nice

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>>147664583
There ya go. In my other hand is the very same purple Chaos Emerald that Shadow/Tim used in the film.

>>147665423
Last thread

>>147665423
We had it last thread.

YOU'RE. TOO. LATE.

>>147665183
You da man anon

>>147665423
Last thread

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>>147665421
I guess so

I couldn't think of any other girl character we didn't have Classics of.

>>147665578
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>147665680
>I couldn't think of any other girl character we didn't have Classics of.
Shade?

Classic Sticks.

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>>147665578
You handsome madman you

>>147665578
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Hey, will you help me out /sthg/?
I am working, or rather trying to work on a motion comic of the new Mega Drive comic. I'm doing it because I want to compose some fun music to it. Which is my main driving force for making it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNo9D1kdi18

Have a sample.

My idea behind this is to score the thing like if it was a cartoon. The main melody in this short part is supposed to be Sonic's theme (original composition quite obviously) butttt. While I like how it came out, I am in doubt. Something doesn't click with me.
So yeah, I just want some opinions. Should I keep this style and go forward? Keep the style but start from the beginning? Do something else altogether? I would appreciate if anybody giving an opinion would at least explain in few words why they feel that way.

Thanks.

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>>147665680
>>147666048
Absolutely.

>>147665901
Oh. Well. Thank you. That's unexpected.

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>>147665578
Holy shit, I wasn't expecting something like that.

>>147665578
Also, you remind me of someone that was my best friend for a while. I regret that we ended up drifting away, even if there was no way to avoid it /blog take care you faggot

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>>147665423
>>147665512

>>147666169
To be honest, without any voice acting, it's kind of weird

not that I'm suggesting that an anon from here should do it, that'd ruin it

>>147666301
That's what makes it fun.
>>147666549
You have Facebook, don't'cha? It's never too late to rekindle those relationships if you believe that there's potential there.

SonicKid Says.

>>147666683
That reminds me of that ''There's something about Tails'' sprite comic

Boy, I sure read some weird stuff as a teen
probably explains what I'm doing here

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>>147666683
found where i had these saved

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>>147665584
>>147665641
>>147665670
Oh. Why apologies. Thank you.

>>147666758
Well, unfortunately I can't do much about voice acting.

>>147666683
Fuck me. I recall reading this. T'was one of Psyguys comics, no? Or at least the ones he wrote. Didn't Sonic like, die in this one?

>>147667219
Man everyone had a sonic sprite comic at some point.

Should try crawling through SmackJeeves.

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>>147667301

>>147667219
just wait, friend.

>>147667420
shhh

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>>147667470
A R T S H I F T

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>>147667651
*WANG*

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>>147667795
I forgot just how bad this next sequence was. Tails' fucking face.

>>147662230
Not really. Rotor is the closest to him, and he is more of a weapons guy.

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>>147662230
Being sales booster

>>147665578
You remind me of someone

>>147666683
>>147667301
>>147667470
>>147667651
>>147667795
>>147668465
>>147668196
no
just end it

What are the chances that Carl Boller will resurface and convince Sega to let Archie start using his characters again? On a scale from zero to none.
Well, the ones that can actually exist in the new continuity, that is. No Finitevus.

>>147668675
>What are the chances that Karl Bollers will resurface and convince Sega to let Archie start using his characters again? On a scale from zero to none.
Fuck and All. Because Bollers is actually doing something worthwhile with his professional caeer

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>>147668675
Scale from zero to none? I'll go with null. Where would that fit in?

And why no Fini?

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>>147668465

>>147668635
it has to be done.

>>147668675
who all's from boller? who do you want back most?

>>147668857
Because the new continuity matches the games in regards to echidnas: They're all dead except Knuckles.

>>147660985
>>147661105
>no Mecha Madness
Come on now

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>>147665578
The man, the myth, the legend himself

>>147669121
Fuck, I knew I forgot something

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>>147665140
>>147665879
I kinda messed this one up.

>>147668675
I don't think he would care. Someone asked him once, but I don't think he ever responded and his twitter is overrun by bots.

>>147665183
Could I bother you for a Bunnie?

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>>147668954
the amy rose domestic abuse storyline is just too much

>>147669280
yoooo i dig it mostly because i just really really like sticks' design. if you want more suggestions, I'd love to see how you handle super form characters in your style.

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>>147668954
Best girl

>>147668954
I honestly couldn't tell if that last comment by Tails was serious or overreacting to how delicious the food was. That's really bad.

>>147669008
According to Ian, the only reason they're not using stuff from Chronicles is because Penders would sue. Sega would be fine with bringing the whole Nocturnus stuff into the comics.

>>147668954
Finitivus is probably the biggest loss, both because he ended up being a great character and because he was an antagonist specifically for Knuckles, which is something he doesn't have post-reboot. The rest are ultimately expendable, even Mina and Hope.

>>147669512
>25 Years Later paired her with Tails for literally no reason
>didn't even consult Bollers about it
Pre-SGW really was a mess.

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>>147669435
man the papyrus font must not have been a faux pas yet circa 2003 because he uses that shit constantly. it's even crept into the dialogue.

>>147669512
yikes, i actually don't really miss Mina. maybe she was a better character in her later appearances but I've never been really fond of her. anyone else?

>>147669716
with psyguy's track record with his shipping of sonic characters between one another it's hard to say.

>>147669849
see, what all i read with finitivus didn't do it for me. could you recommend any issues that you'd say are among his best appearances?

>>147669849
Cheonicles doesn't matter, the point is that like in the games, Knuckles is now the Last of the Echidnas again. Bringing in Finitevus would completely contradict that.

>>147669143
I dunno if I'd go that far.

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>>147669987

>>147669987
>Shadow's acting like Sonic and Sonic's behavior is clearly based on this guy's deadbeat dad or something
This is a trainwreck, but at least it's better than Sonichu

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>>147670218
and now we're back to Comic Sans

>>147670294
YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN YET

RUGH!!! That fake hedgehog!

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>>147669987
I like Mina a lot(childhood crush), but she was basically created by Bollers to fuck with Penders. So I understand why people aren't fond of her. Also the last time she was important it started civil war between mina and nicolefags.

>>147670752
>I like Mina a lot(childhood crush), but she was basically created by Bollers to fuck with Penders
Actually I think she was created as a memorial to Bollers' grandma

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>>147670415
>Sonic literally dressed as Scumbag Steve
yeah i forgot my image
>>147670752
>created by bollers to fuck with penders
Elaborate?

>>147670028
Unless he's a ghost.
Or gets a racelift to where he isn't an echidna anymore.

>>147670817
Christ I can fucking feel the early 2000s edge radiating out from this

>>147670913
That would pretty much completely ruin the point of his character altogether.

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>>147670817
>sonic's fucking DEAD

>>147670028
If they could use the stuff from Chronicles then he obviously wouldn't be the last of the echidnas anymore. He'd be the last of his tribe, but that's different. Easy to rework Fini as a Nocturnus or from some other tribe if they wanted and were able to.

>>147671036

rip in piece

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>>147671036
wherein Tails sings his own theme song while beating the shit out of Sonic and it becomes abundantly clear that Psyguy does not know the lyrics to Believe in Myself

>>147671016
I don't know. I think he'd work well as a phantom.
Link a Sandopolis mummy, ghost or some variety of undead...

>>147669987
The thing with Fini is he was rarely the focus on an arc as villain. He was set up well enough in Return to Angel Island, even if he got little actual focus. He was good in the Enerknuckles arc even though the main focus was on Sonic vs. Knuckles. He was only really the focus in Knuckles The Return. The majority of what he did was manipulating plot threads while other villains did the bulk of the work.

>>147670816
Writer feuds they would always try to fuck with what the other did

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>>147671289
>wherein Tails sings his own theme song while beating the shit out of Sonic
I mean I've seen this thing too many times but this shit never get's old

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>>147671289

>>147671289
Ahh, the sweet memories of EDGE.
I can't believe I even read that shit once upon a time. What a time it was for me.

>>147669987
say what you want about this comic, at least Shadow isn't his edgelord self anymore

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>>147671663

>Sonic came to my house and tried to slap me

this is more funny than it should be

>>147666169
please don't post the whole thing in a motion comic or it'll get taken down for copyright. there are lots of fans uploading the comics to youtube with thousands of views from fans who don't know there's a way to legally get the comics. but i like what you did, i just dont want you to waste your time.

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>>147671663

>>147671839
even when i was a kid this still seemed pretty bad

>>147671987
he's wearing a fucking bass.exe cloak so he still more than looks the part.

>>147671289
Fucking beautiful

>>147671663
>>147672079
Wait, why was she just hanging around the auto repair shop?

>>147672079
>he's wearing a fucking bass.exe cloak so he still more than looks the part.
yeah, I spoke too soon

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>>147672079

>>147672171
she wasn't, but she just magically knew that he'd be there even though he arrived through instantaneous movement by way of Chaos Control.

just like she instantly knows he's wanted for attempted murder. psy tries to explain it but he's just an idiot so it doesn't work out so well.

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This entire comic can be summed up by pic related

>>147671070
But they're not going to use Chronicles because that was the whole fucking point of the lawsuit in the first place. They don't need to put up with Penders trying to sue them again, especially now that he named his new series the "Lara-Su Chronicles".

Besides that, until he turned white Finitevus was a red echidna like Knuckles. Pretty much all of the Archie echidnas were. Except Julie-Su who was pink. Finitevus also has Knuckles' dreadlocks, which is the characteristic of the Echidna tribe in Chronicles, while the Nocturnus have different hair (Ix gets dreadlocks only when he goes Super with the power of the Master Emerald, which was silly and doesn't count). Basically they'd have to completely redesign the character, and unlike the SatAM characters, Bollers would actually be around to object to the redesign. And even if he didn't it'd be a ridiculous task just to reintroduce the character.

You said that Knuckles doesn't have an archenemy, but he really doesn't need one, because Walter is around. They'll confront each other for Shattered and then when the Master Emerald is restored they'll go from there. What happens afterwards is entirely up to Ian.

>Just read Sonic: Mega Drive on /co/.
>I fell in love.
I don't mean to offend but I found it miles better than the main comic. I mean, wow. It was fun as fuck to read. I really have to hand it to Tyson.

And I strangely got OVA vibes from it for some reason.

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>>147672262
ALL HAIL SHADOW

HEROES RISE AGAIN

OBLITERATING EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT YOUR FRIEND

>>147672079
I mean, in my defense, I thought the same. For some reason though, I still kept on reading. I had too much fucking time on my hands, I swear to God.

>>147672028
Well, I could just post the music alone. Or I could do what I did with this video and keep it unlisted. That way only those who have the link can view it. And glad you like it. Thanks.

>>147672314
You're missing the point. Sega is fine with them using stuff from Chronicles. This means Sega is fine with them using other echidnas. This means Sega is not insistent on Knuckles being the last echidna. The status of Chronicles wrt Penders is irrelevant; I was addressing whether "the last echidna" is considered by Sega to be an essential part of Knuckles' character and it obviously isn't. Probably the only reason why the comic hasn't introduced more echidnas post-reboot is because Penders introduced so many with barely one-dimensional "characters" that anything they introduce would be grounds for a frivolous lawsuit unless it was conclusively from material that Sega owns.

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>>147672467
tails goes to jail

>>147672537
dude it was the internet and we were kids. they were a big deal man, they had their own website and everything.

don't forget shit like That's My Sonic and the various rehashes of that happened and some of us kept reading that and thinking it was funny too.

it's just embarrassing to think about.

>>147672573
What I don't get is why he would take action against archie if they use Chronicles characters. Shouldn't he take action against Sega? or does he know he would get his asshole turned inside out.

>>147672809
Where's Sonic ARGH

You should storytime that instead.

>>147672890
He has no grounds against Archie unless it was part of the settlement, but they're a much easier target than Sega, and Archie's lawyers have claimed that Sega has threatened to pull the license if there's more legal bullshitery.

>>147672809
You're right.
And oh man. OH MAN. Heeeere it comes... slowly but surely it comes.

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>>147672809
tails gets trolled meets psyguy's attempts at humor

>>147672918
maybe if i can find it i'll make big collages of the pages for another day. or if you can find it for me that would be great too.

>>147672573
In the games besides Chronicles he's the last of the echidnas. Sega wants the characters to stay true to their game counterparts. That much is true. They're putting Archie in a chokehold after Penders' shenanigans cost them in pointless lawyering. Sonic can't even cry anymore. Which is why I highly doubt they'll let Ian go the same way Bioware did and throw away established archetypes.

I'm pretty sure it's even been stated several times since the reboot that Knuckles is the last of the echidnas.

Why do people cite Finitevus as an Archie original when he was blatantly based off Zachery from StC?
>"We don't know that for!"
I am 101% sure he was.

>>147673128
and now we come full circle, as the events from the first set of pages here >>147666683
are now taking place, only with a different art style. and some parts like chaos control replacing a door with a solid wall are omitted.

basically he didn't plan much of any of this ahead of time.

>>147673330
Differences in execution. We all know how much of an unashamed fan of StC Jon is, but they're different in characterization beyond "is an echidna and the bad guy."

>>147673285
>>147672573
In addition the whole point of "Nixus" is that Knuckles is shocked that there's another echidna around, leading Walter to trick him like he did. Or, will do, that is.

>>147673468
>"is an echidna and the bad guy."
But that's what they both were.

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>>147673424
sure wish i could not forget my image so often

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>>147673590
so obviously they get captured again and a presidential candidate stages a televised public execution by ambiguous means while the accused as suspended from ropes by a crane in front of a skyscraper. no trial, of course.

>>147673545
>>147673330
Zachary is "he's an echidna from the ancient civilisation who takes advantage of Knuckles' insecurities with being the last of his culture but he himself doesn't care much, what he wants is power".

Finitevus is "echidna scientist driven insane who is in a mission to purify the world of everything he disagrees with by burning everything down to ashes".

Different characters. Even in execution- Zachary doesn't actually do much, he tricks Knuckles once, gets thrown off the island, becomes a cyborg, sells out to Robotnik, and escapes. Finitevus did a lot more in his few appearances.

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>>147674120

>>147674563
Yes! YES! Finally my "favorite" part!

This is really dumb.

Can we please stop? Like, no memes like "ride never ends" or "only the dead," or whatever. Whatever you think is funny.

Just stop.

This is a waste of a thread.

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>>147674923

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Hey Sthg, I just read Sonic Mega Drive, fuck it was goood and cute.
Whats new with everyone?

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>>147675082

>>147675134

Drop the name, then we'll talk.

>>147675082

No, reading shitty fanfiction is fun. Shitty comics are more fun. I'm surprised a Sonic fan of all people hasn't figured out how to enjoy shit things?

Look ou, down below

>>147675429
Sonic is on the go

>>147675563
Can't stop this party til' we
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRLLLLLLLD

>people saying sonic should die because there isn't many more games you can make out of him
No one pulls this shit on Mario

Read the comic.
Ian I'll buy one once I get money I swear, I'd pay for a whole series of these.

The way they were doing the plot progression seems like a game. Like
>show level
>show level gimmick
>show boss

I know it's based off the games and therefore like all the comic adaptations of the games, but it'd be nice if we were actually getting this as a game too.
One can dream.

>>147675791
That's because literally every first-party, Nintendo-made Mario game is good.

>>147675851
sunshine

>>147675851
they are all the blandest shit and I have no idea how anyone enjoys them they're the video game equivalent of a cream cracker

it's a nice cracker but who the fuck eats like a whole box of cream crackers

>>147675851
Everything since Galaxy 2 has been mediocre at best.

>>147675851
No they're not dude.

>>147675791

yeah but nintendo recycles the same winning formulas every time with mario, so every game is familiar (if not bland, like NSMBWiiU)
sonic team keeps trying to reinvent the fucking wheel with every single goddamn game and wow guess what it's all trash
I'm not saying mario's perfect but I'd rather play the same game with different levels 10 times than 10 completely different games that all suck

>>147675851
With the current NSMB syndrome.

>>147675851
Mario just plays it safe with the same formula
while Sonic can't even settle on one

saying that sonic still gets shit Mario doesn't. people just hated the idea of Sonic with a sword or being a werewolf whereas I think Mario could've gotten away with that sort of thing.

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>>147674923

>>147675851
>>147676439
Not* with the current NSMB syndrome.

Yeah, I fucked that up.

>>147676419
>>147676248
>>147675987

Man, StC was really, REALLY bad.

>>147676419

I swear, Fleetway's artists only knew how to draw Sonic and friends from two angles.

>>147676604
>sought
>export
I'm sorry but in what world do those two words rhyme even a little bit?

>>147676665

So they were only just a little bit better than most modern Sonic fanartists?

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>>147676665
>only knew how to draw Sonic and friends from two angles.
they were mandated to. Sega still had mandates for StC, they were just more about visuals than story content. It's why Sonic gets drawn like the awful European Sonic 3d Blast cover starting at one point.

>>147676691
How the hell are you pronouncing them?

sort and ex-port are how we here in good ol Britain say em.

Alright, which Sonic game would you play?
Sonic 4 - Sonic 4 is completely remade by Sonic Team and Taxman and Stealth. All-new levels, and there is now a Sonic 4 saga with: Sonic 4, Sonic CD 2, and Sonic: Endgame. Sonic: Endgame explores all of the islands Sonic's been on along with new ones. This is the bridge from Sonic 3&K to Sonic Adventure.

Sonic Adventure 3 - A true sequel to the Adventure games that corrects the flaws of 1 and 2, characters are Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Eggman, and Shadow in their own optional stories. Metal Sonic is an unlockable post-game adventure. Sonic plays like he did in SA2, Tails plays like he did in SA1, Knuckles plays like he did in 3&K but in 3D, Amy plays like she did in Sonic Advance but in 3D, Metal Sonic plays like he did in SA2, and Shadow has a Jet Set Radio playstyle.

Sonic Xtreme - Sonic Xtreme is remade and fully complete in beautiful HD.

Sonic vs Eggman - Title celebrating Sonic and Eggman. Sonic plays like he did in SA games and the boost games. Eggman plays like he does in SA2. Wisps are in the game.

Sonic Maker - Mario Maker with Sonic

Sonic and Mario - Sonic and Mario crossover platforming game.

Chao Garden - Chao Garden simulator for all consoles and PC

Sonic 3 remastered - Taxman remake of Sonic 3 for iOS and possibly Steam

Knuckles Chaotix remastered - Taxman remake of Chaotix for iOS and Steam (the hipster vote)

Sonic Generations 2 - Sequel to Generations exploring more levels

Sonic Reborn - plays like the classic games and is simple enough.

>>147676942
4

>>147676942
Sonic vs Eggman. A standalone Chao Garden game would never work.

>>147675851
I think Nintendo are masters at putting out polished products, but rarely do they put out anything amazing. Its just that half assed is basically the standard so a game that is actually a complete experience seems like a godsend. Although lately Nintendo becoming more and more like other devs.

>>147675309
Oh shit thats from another general sorry
how about now anon.

>>147676942
but shadow died in sonic adventure 2 and was brought back as a robot in sonic heroes

when does "sonic adventure 3" take place?

>>147676942
Remade sonic 4

>>147676691
Even in American English, sought is pronounced "sort."

I mean, I'm sorry you're from the South or the Midwest (where everyone talks like a mushmouthed, inbred retard) but that's clearly how it is.

>>147677220
I guess Blaze or Silver could take his place

>>147677220
>shadow died in sonic adventure 2 and was brought back as a robot in sonic heroes

This is wrong. Shadow never died.

I'm going to ship characters you dont think should be shipped!

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>>147677316
>>147677316
>tfw we get the deviantart prototype Blaze

>>147676942
Sonic adventure 3
the extra bits you've added here and there don't exactly sit well with me.

>>147677220
you're baiting right?

>>147677450
Good, so do I! I prefer Rouge × Chris.

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>>147677220
you're misremembering shadow's story. maybe you should replay heroes and shadow the hedgehog to refresh your memory.

>>147677492
What would you change?

>>147677417
>>147677492
only kind of, but i don't buy into Eggman being able to see the future during the ARK incident.

shadow the hedgehog feels like it was written by people who didn't even play sonic adventure 2 but rather just had it described to them. him being part demon alien is literally What. basically everything about Shadow's game was so ridiculous I opt to pretend it doesn't exist. For the most part, things make more sense that way.

>>147677685
>ignore canon
>substitute own canon
>claim as canon

That's not how it works, numbnuts.

>>147677253
>>147676691
Not him but I'm from the south and that's the dumbest homophone I've seen.

>>147677767
that was exactly how it worked for the hacks who wrote Shadow the Hedgehog, though.

>>147677685
Naka was the head of both SA2 and Shadow. Now think again what you said.

>>147677829
But it's pronounced the same way as thought, and fought.
Why would it be pronounced any differently?
How do you think it should be pronounced?

>>147677997
Akira Toriyama was the head of both Dragon Ball (&Z) and Dragon Ball Super.

Creators are definitely fallible.

>>147676942
Adventure 3

>>147677986

And filtered. Good of you to let me know you were just shitposting so early, so now I can skip your posts.

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>>147678062
I'd guess his problem is that you don't stress the port in export, making such a rhyme a bit contrived- sOUHGT, thOUGHT, fOUGHT, EXport

>>147678145
>a-all opinions that disagree with me are shitposting!! echo chamber posting only!!!

>>147677986
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't canon

There is no R in the worst Sought what the fuck is wrong with you people

>>147678113
DB and DBZ shares a lot of things, DBS was made years after just because TOEI threw a huge bag of money to Toriyama.

SA2 and Shadow are only four years appart. Naka was the one that even wrote the base to Sonic Battle and all the first Gizoid shit. The guy possibly had a lot of ideas about Shadow origins and just choose what he thought -at the time-, was the most applicable for the game about "Sonic with Guns".

>>147676942
I'd say SA3 just for the sake of having a new sonic game with old characters and exploring more about them and seeing them interact
If not that then probably Sonic Gen 2

>>147678302
I guess they pronounce export X-Pot

>>147678181
Ah right, I get you.
Was thinking he meant like SOWT or something.

Also, what happened with ArchieKnux that made the echidnas the biggest community of super race over FleetwayKnux being one of the only echidnas still alive like in the games.
Penders
Well yeah I know but what was he thinking?

>>147678302
There's no S in chandelier but we're not all retarded.

You made me go and take the bait and I hate you for it.

>>147677997
Not really, Naka was producer in name only with Shadow because he headed back to Japan to work on 06 before he quit to form Prope. Everything about Shadow was Iizuka's butt baby.

>>147678445
Everything to do with the echidnas was literally just Penders taking his shitty fanfiction original the story and stapling Sonic characters onto it.

>>147678445
>Well yeah I know but what was he thinking?
Penders needed a way to push his awful Sci Fi ideas, saw that Knuckles had "potential", and shoved them into his backstory

>>147678312
I kinda miss having PLOT. Even if it was batshit insane its fun to discuss.

>>147678445

Penders basically used the Knuckles comic as a medium for his shitty sci-fi stories since Knuckles himself was a blank slate and Sega gave less of a fuck than usual. He flat out admitted this during his SR panel.

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>>147678445
>Also, what happened with ArchieKnux that made the echidnas the biggest community of super race over FleetwayKnux being one of the only echidnas still alive like in the games.
"dhur hur how do I make this story about the last of his kind interesting if he's the last of his kind? the best superman stuff is about krypton"

>>147676942
Sonic 4 saga sounds cool

>>147676942
>Knuckles plays like he did in 3&K but in 3D
he does play like he did in 3&K. That's why the hunting is introduced, to the player doesn't end up skipping most of the level. There are two options. You can either design the levels so they are more restricted - like his section in Cannons Core - it would result in his levels either being caverns or vertical (which could work). I've thought it would be cool if Knuckles was given objectives, with a mini-map. I think it was the wandering that annoyed people about the the treasure hunting.

I wouldn't have Eggman playable again, it doesn't need to repeat elements so strongly from the previous games.

Shadow should be play nearly the same as sonic, perhaps he could have a chaos spear attack. Not turning his style into a shooter, he could use it the activate machinery etc.

I wouldn't want to add too many gameplay styles but ti would be good to see it centred around a 'new' character, It would actually be best to use an underrated character instead of inventing a new one obviously, Blaze or Silver.

>>147678181
But "ought" and "port" don't rhyme, either

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>>147679017
they do, depending on your accent- don't plenty of UK accents soften the "r" sound to being near gone, making "export" sound like "expought"?

I do agree it's a contrived rhyme, anyway.

>>147679165
Fucking brits

>>147679165
>We could use this rhyme to know who the britbongs are
I parked my car in Harvard yard

>>147679017
Here in bong land they do, but like this anon says >>147679165, accents differ a lot.

In English English, like stiff upper lip or whatever you call it, it rhymes.
Ought is pronouned Ort. kinda thing.

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>>147679301
I PAHkd my KAH in HAHved YAHd, no?

INSIDE OUTSIDE
something in japanese
INSIDE OUTSIDE
something in japanese

post it

>>147679567
Your a britbong alright

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>>147679872

>>147680096
JASON

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>>147679746
I had forgotten about that song.
>mfw hearing it again on the Joypolis party
Brings back good memories.

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>>147657690
Aww! What role would Rouge have played had she existed in the older games?

>>147680507
you know what's sad and i can't actually prove, unlike our live action sonic hero earlier in the thread?

i am literally the person who made dark trunks. or rather, the person responsible for the inverted picture of Ultra Super Saiyan Trunks with mspaint red skin and purple hair. the original non-super dark trunks is now lost to the abyss of the internet.


a very, very, very, very long time ago, I encountered an image on the internet featuring long-haired Future Trunks edited in a similar manner (though without colors inverted) to have red skin and black hair.

as a joke with a friend, i created this image featuring Super Dark Saiyan Dark Trunks. I can't for the life of me remember why, but it happened. said friend of mine years later used this to create a series of parody articles on a fanon wikia without my knowledge. either way, it's still fucking hysterical to see dark TRUNKS posted by anyone who isn't me every now and again.

/blog

>>147680872
She would've basically been Nack in Triple Trouble, except flirty.

>>147680872
different guy here

The same really, taking the place of Nack perhaps.
although she would avoid fighting directly, she would show up at the end of an act, lay a trap or something and then run off.

>>147681131
>implying Nack isn't flirting with Sonic the whole game