/gerg/ - Giant Extreme Robots General

>3 generals I go constantly dying
>at least no shitty waifu garbage
>there will never be an 11th page

Such is life in the inner sphere.

Has the tournament slain /gerg/?

I'm getting really bored of mastering my current mechs even though I still have a lot of them. What should I go for?

1. Mauler?
2. Stalker?
3. Catapult?

I'm leaning towards the Mauler because my only IS assault is the energy-focused Awesome, but I'll need to buy at least one XL Mauler and I've only got 13 million in the bank right now...

>>147621962
Both maulers and stalkers are very slow assaults so prepare to suffer grinding them. They are pretty good though.

Cat is now very strong.

>>147621962
Depends on what mechs you currently have. If you just have laserboats and are bored of them, you can go for the mauler and make ballistic builds.

>>147624317
>Depends on what mechs you currently have.

Adder
Awesome
Centurion
Cicada
Dire Wolf
Ebon Jaguar
Firestarter
Griffin
Jagermech
Locust
Mad Dog
Marauder
Phoenix Hawk
Shadow Hawk
Stormcrow
Thunderbolt
Timber Wolf
Warhammer
Warhawk
Wolverine

I guess a 90 tonner to round it out makes sense though.

>>147625052
I guess you are lacking a big IS dakka mech. The best Mauler variant got nerfed in the last patch though.

>>147619265
do you guys have a discord or a teamspeak or something?

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>>147621398

Pretty much.

>teammates crit my ct from behind
ebin :DD

>>147626926
There's a group mumble info in the OP.

>>147627275
>some guy thinks he's epik so clever teamkilling you while evading penalties by just stripping all your CT armor
:DDDDD

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just your average day

>>147626557
Which variant is that, the MX90? Still looks like the best one to me.

>>147628186
Looking at the patchnotes they just nerfed ballistic range and velocity, I was remembering it was something more severe.

>>147629163
Velocity is very important for ballistics. Let's you land shots at range.

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>hawken launches on xbone.
>it's shit.
>PC master race players aren't allowed inside the console pleb forums under any circumstance, for fear that they'll taint the virgin newfags with bittervet knowledge and facts.
>reloaded made it so you can only access the console forums if you're logged in through an xbone.
>P2W G2 mechs that legit get more uses of special items than older robots.
>G2 robots even have damage reduction.
>devs actively avoiding the old players like they're plague victims.
>it's inevitable that one of them will slip and confirm that the core players are no longer the target audience, that they¨re on an island, and the game's in the best state ever.

>>147622262
catapult is still complete garbage except the K2 which is merely subpar.
although since the geometry pass it sometimes manages to die to something other than headshots now, so there's that.

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>tfw nobody on your team does any damage

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PGI wishes they could recycle shit like this.

empyrium, starmade from the deep, pulsar, no man's sky, the forest?
they all seem prty fun

no1 else seems to be willing to provide input, pls be a sport /greg/

>>147632415
Too busy playing Doom.

>>147632001
They tried. Even put it up to a vote on the community if they should bring back old grab deals.

>tfw can't buy hero mechs for less than 50 dollars these days

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>>147633045

Yes, I am well aware, and Russ was deliciously salty about it.

What I'm saying is they wish they had the freedom to recycle their shit like reloaded is doing for hawken without being chained to an ancient playerbase who'll shit on the latest trannyverse project.

>>147633426
>being poor
lol not the game for you

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wake me up inside

Is there a generally superior mad dog variant?

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>>147636754

>>147636893
Is there somehow an issue with my question? Most mechs have a variant that is better than the others by the nature of the quirk bullshit, no?

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Here come dat boi.

>>147637115
>clanner
no nothing's wrong at all

seriously though, it probably depends on what build you want to do.

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Fuckin' seamless PGI...

>>147637476
how big is it going to be relative to other lights?
Kind of want to buy it since assassinating people from behind with machine guns and lasers sounds like fun

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>>147637667
Think of a Cicada.
Now imagine a Clan Cicada.

>>147637836
rip
guess I'm sticking to my cheetah

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Has anyone taken a stab at what it is yet?

Can someone, anyone, please reset the kong contract...?

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>>147639595
Linebacker or Black Python.

If Black Python, score one bad ass fucking 75 tonner for the clans.

If Linebacker, clans get a 65 ton mech worse than the Summoner.

>>147646669
Where did you get the other pieces?

>>147646810
Thread on official forums.

>>147646669
It totally could be a Vulture mk III

>>147641796
Uh, why can't you?

>>147648750
Don't worry about it Laser, Vass or Pizza can do it they just haven't been on.

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Linebacker confirmed.

>>147648750
Don't have permissions to.

>>147626926
THERE IS NO DISCORD. NO SUCH THING HAS EXISTED NOR WILL EVER EXIST. DO NOT ASK AGAIN

>>147648980
They could have given me a Black Lanner

Instead they push out this piece of shit, literally the worst Clan robot they could have chosen

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>>147648980
that's my fetish

>>147648980
Yeeeaahhh... not going to bother with yet another clan shitmech. They are strapped for actually useable ones as it is.

I'm more curious as to why the fuck did these asian and negroid sperm gargling cuckold afficipnados would waste time with this when every second they waste is a player or two quitting forever.

>>147649618
Go away Kit

It will have a torso to twist anyways

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>>147648980

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So PGI IS making money off Battletech.

>>147650119
No fucking shit, did you think they were subletting the license and sharing their art for free?

>>147641796

I would, but the game has a nasty habit of locking up my computer this patch. Pizzacuck will do it if he gets on.

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>harabec's face when we're getting Linebackers

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>still no bushwacker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQGakLz3lfg

>>147651357
I've known we were getting linebackers for like 6 months now

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>>147651552

Don't worry, goy. It'll be out for christmas alongside the madcat II.

At least it'll actually look good. Even if the robot is shit, its 80's/90's shit art deserves to be redone.

>>147651854
It will look "good" but you'll never see it because it's dead on arrival.

Hope you're there on launch day for it, because you won't see another one ever again.

>>147651929
Just for you, I'm gonna grab deal it, and main the fucking thing. Every match.

>>147652014
t. G

>>147652014
man loses last remaining friends over spiteful grab deal

>>147651643
it's still funny regardless

>Linebacker
Pls no

It's one thing that there are multitudes of shitmechs already in the game because they were fucked by game mechanics, but why do they keep adding more at a point where they should know better

Unironically, can someone explain to me why the Linebacker will be terrible?

>>147652338
16.5t of podspace because of a 390XL engine with 4 locked DHS

On a 65 tonner

That is as much podspace as an Adder, and that's fucking terrible.

It doesn't go particularly fast either, 105kph.

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>>147652338
Do any of these sound good to you?

>>147652338
Here's everything we know about it, starting with omnipods:

LA: 2E; 2M
LT: 3E; 1M
RT: 1M/2E; 2B/1E
RA: 1B; 2M; 1E

So it actually has an okay spread of hardpoints, right? Well, it can't use them for shit. It gets 16.5t as said above, equivalent of an Adder, at maximum armour. It throws all of its podspace into a massive engine that doesn't actually do very much for it. 105kph isn't worth the amount of tonnage it has invested in it.

It can't do anything with the potential 6M setup it could run. I mean you can technically do 6SRM6, but it's got most of the missiles in the arms and can't run Artemis on them if you want ammo. It can do some mediocre energy builds, but it can't boat high enough numbers of small pulse which would be most fitting for having such a focus on speed. Ballistics are right out unless it's Gauss/UAC20 + lasers, but everything else will do them better, including the Summoner which has more podspace than it. If you put a UAC20/Gauss on it you've got around 5 to 6 tons available afterwards without ammo, so you won't be doing much else with that either other than 3ML.

When your "high speed" brawling focused robot doesn't have enough tonnage to even use SRMs properly you know you have a shit robot.

They could quirk it out the ass and it might end up having a couple of decent, niche builds. They will also be making a Hero up that could give it slightly more to work with, but there's a lot against this mech.

How's evryone doing? Piggy still robbing you?

>>147653870
It's basically the Spurdo of heavies with that ridiculously oversized engine, except you can't even boat small lasers.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YM476Pa4o

The butthurt over this thing is incredible.
"I'm leaving MWO forever."
Like, wtf, just don't buy this one grab deal. Don't play the shit mech.

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>>147648943
Are you sure?

>>147655480
Who the fuck is leaving the game over this

Is this more butthurt from the autists that throw a temper tantrum when any grab deal isn't the Mad Cat MK II?

>>147655846
Make sure it's a mercenary contract to an IS faction, Marik or FRR are probably best choices

Don't set a loyalist contract

>>147655846
give Taylor Swift contract setting powers and this probably won't ever be an issue again (Harabec's alt)

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>>147656093
Okay.

>>147656252
Done!

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>>147656093
Golden tears.

>>147656658
>Imperius

Of course it's him, he does nothing but whine about any mech not being a Mad Cat MK II and begs Russ on twitter 24/7/365 for it

I hope it never gets put in the game just to spite him personally for being such a faggot about it

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>>147656658
>butthurt autist temper tantrum

Nothing new here.

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Is there a full-white version of this? I want to print it on my shirt.

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What did he mean by this?

>>147637115

Thanks to Clan omnipods, it's not even a matter of quirkpower. It's just a matter of how you want to shuffle your hardpoints around to best serve a given build type. You want a dead arm to shield with? Slap in a C-arm for Mad Dogs for superior toughness since you probably won't use that ballistic hardpoint. Better missile velocity and such? Asymmetric builds can take advantage of the better quirk-fewer hardpoints if you want, again lending to dead-siding your 'Mech.

>>147660036

"Look at me, I'm a whiny whale and you don't get my money because autism."

>>147660179
The mad dog CTs actually have some minor variations in the quirks. Which one is the best one? I'm not the same guy but I got interested.

>>147660036
>I have no life but dumping money on video games

What a sad person.

>>147660036

>>147637115
MDD-PRIME CENTER TORSO
ACCELERATION RATE: 25.00 %
DECELERATION RATE: 25.00 %
TORSO TURN ANGLE (PITCH): 15.00
TORSO TURN RATE (YAW): 40.00 %
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (LT): 7.00
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (RT): 7.00

MDD-A CENTER TORSO
ACCELERATION RATE: 45.00 %
DECELERATION RATE: 45.00 %
TURN RATE: 35.00 %
TORSO TURN RATE (YAW): 30.00 %
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (LT): 7.00
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (RT): 7.00

MDD-B CENTER TORSO
ACCELERATION RATE: 40.00 %
DECELERATION RATE: 40.00 %
TURN RATE: 25.00 %
TORSO TURN ANGLE (YAW): 15.00
TORSO TURN RATE (YAW): 30.00 %
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (LT): 7.00
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (RT): 7.00

MDD-C CENTER TORSO
ACCELERATION RATE: 60.00 %
DECELERATION RATE: 60.00 %
TORSO TURN RATE (YAW): 30.00 %
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (LT): 7.00
ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE (RT): 7.00

C, B, and A are the best. Accel quirks are great, so are torso turn rate quirks for brawlers. Extra torso turn angle is really good. I'd say B is the best.

>>147660889
>>147660748
(continued because I accidentally hit post without finishing out my post)

A lot of it is up to personal preference though. The Mad Dogs all feel a little different, and it's up to you to decide which of those quirks you find most important.

Torso pitch angle is not super important but you might find you like it since the Mad Dog is heavily reliant on torso mounted weapons. Turn rate proper instead of torso turn rate isn't a huge deal and is the weakest of the quirks it has probably.

C is amazing, accel/decel rates of that caliber feel really good to play. Just try whichever appeals to you the most, then see what you'd rather have. Have to get 3 variants anyways.

>>147660036
Best thing I've read all day. I didn't know there was that much to spend money on in GTA.

>buying MB coins for MGSV too

oh man

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tfw the linebacker could look like a pretty cool guy

>>147656658

I thought he quit back in april after that shitty townhall where Russ took a piss on their collective faces. Why would he ever log back in again?

>>147662930
Probably just to shit post and rub it in their faces that he's dumping all that money on Steam games.

>>147662930
To bitch moan and complain it seems.
In the last town hall Russ said the MadCat Mk. II WILL be coming out, so Imperius is back, thinking this was going to be it, even though literally everyone already knew it was going to be the Linebacker because Russ said the Clans were getting 4 more Omnis.

>everyone, everywhere desperately trying to latch onto any hope they can find that it isn't the linebacker but is instead the Mad Cat Mark II/Marauder IIC/Super Nova/anything else

this is golden

>>147663175
Imperius literally didn't even know the Mad Cat MK II wasn't an omnimech, though I suspect most people still don't anyways

>>147663285
>Super Nova
I remember that Mech from MechWarrior 3 and the instant crater it made when it exploded.

>>147663384
Fairly terrifying on the hardest difficulty though. There's one mission where you face a couple of them at the end and they can totally ruin you if you aren't expecting it.

Still nothing compared to the swarm of Adders in that one mission though, holy fuck, those things shit out damage like crazy. Always liked to go to the river too so their ERPPCs didn't explode them.

Man, I hate skirmish. Everyone just pokes hoping the enemy team to come to them. Everyone is too pussyshit to actually push. At least the objectives force your team to move their fucking asses from behind their safety rock and fight.

>>147663663
>At least the objectives force your team to run in and die like fucking retards
fixed

>>147664143
I'd rather have a short game where my whole team dies like retards than an 11 minute match where we slowly pick them off.

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>there are people that unironically vote for other game modes than conquest

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>>147664586
>there are actually, unironically people who say conquest is the worst game mode
>someone here actually probably thinks that too

>>147664586
>vote for conquest
>it's polar highlands or new frozen city
Memed

>>147664586
I intentionally build up my vote multiplier for the express purpose of voting Domination on Terra Therma.

>>147664738
Domination is the second best game mode for Terra Therma though. The best is actually assault, because it's the only game mode you can somewhat ignore the caldera in. Domination at least tells your team straight up to either get in there or fucking lose instead of pussy footing about outside it hoping the enemy will pack up their bags and go home.

>>147664928
It's true. But more than anything I love the butthurt every time the match loads up.

>>147664928
What are the rules for Domination?

>>147665649
It's king of the hill.
Stand in the green circle for 60 seconds without getting shot, or anyone else entering the green circle to win.

>>147665649
It's king of the hill.

Stand in the gigantic green circle, and as long as no one from the enemy team is in the circle or shooting one of your mechs in the circle then the timer counts down. There are also a couple of trucks you can blow up to add time back to the opponent's counter, but they're pointless really.

>>147665820
>>147665827
The last time I played King of the Hill was in Joint Operations. You at least had cover, grass to go prone in, buildings to hide inside, and mortars to flush enemy campers out of the grass.

It boggles my mind that you can pull that game mode off in MWO.

>no respawns

This reminds me of that Tie match where Kong hid behind the boat back in 2012.

>>147666102
Oh it's complete shit. The times you win by taking the hill can be counted on one hand. The whole point of some of the new maps was to stop people from every game mode to focus around a center point of the map. So then they put in Domination which basically just forces everyone to play skirmish in the center of the map.

>>147666410
>giant singular landmark in the middle of the map
>MOBA style lanes

Have they fixed Alpine yet?

>>147668970
Well, you see... Alpine was totally re-done from the ground up, and became Polar Highlands. But then positions being what they are Alpine stays in rotation because gold forums cried that they didn't want Alpine to go away. So the spawn points on it have been changed in such a way that now only the lower third of the map is ever used.

>>147669135
That's not true. Only domination uses that lower part. Conquest uses a different area as well. Assault and Skirmish still revolve around the hill.

Alpine isn't really that bad. It's not great, or even particularly good, but it's better to be in the game than removed for a map that's literally nothing like it at all. Better to have a mediocre map than one less in the rotation, since this game has a severe lack of maps.

>>147669135
I still remember the days where we thought Alpine was going to be a North/South maps with the bases located at the top and the bottom of the map based on the Battlegrid map leak.

>>147668970

The map guy who made all the terrible maps got schooled in map making by an ancient raven soft/id map guy, and a couple months later, Russ said they were redoing all the shit maps like forest colony, autistic valley, alpine, and etc, despite their map guy defending his awful work.

But when the alpine remake was gonna go live, some star lords complained incredibly loudly that it was the true thinking man's map, so Russ kept the fucking thing in rotation without any changes, bar some shitty community suggested spawns. You see it voted for about as rarely as Mordor, so it doesn't matter much.

Alpine is literally the worst map in QP and it makes me die inside when I see it getting votes and sometimes even winning.

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>>147670516
>Mordor
>still thunderdome

And this is the only good thing that ever came from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GShhY2rLCpU

>>147671046
I don't understand what's so great about the edit?

>>147670921
>worst map
>against Terra Therma and Forest Colony

Nope

>>147673019
>Forest Colony
>bad
wew

>>147673019
Forest Colony was just boring, but it got a little bit better with the extra route.

Terra Therma has potential to have fun fights as long as you stay away from the caldera. In fact if the caldera was removed the map would improve 900%.

Alpine is fine on conquest, but fuck fighting over retard mountain for the third hundredth time.

>>147673265
>Forest Colony
>not the worst map in the entire game

literal brain problems

>>147673310
It didn't get any better and the fights still happen in the exact same spot

Terra Therma can't have fights that don't revolve around the caldera because it's too important a power position. The map doesn't exist without it so it's pointless to say "if it was removed." If Forest Colony was a good map it'd be a good map, too.

>>147673471
1 out of 10 fights on terra don't involve the caldera and are pretty fun.

>>147673265
I'm convinced anyone who thinks Forest Colony isn't the far and away worst map in this game hasn't played in years and thinks people are talking about the old Forest Colony, because there's nothing redeemable about the new one at all and it's unquestionably the most static, boring, shitty map in the game. Visibility is awful, the terrain is awful and any interesting parts of the map are never utilized, and the scale feels worse than any other map.

Nothing is good about it, nothing.

>>147673679
Maybe in tier 5 solo queue I guess. More like 1 in 100 elsewhere. 1 in 1000 for group queue.

>>147673683
Which is even worse considering old forest colony was actually a fun map for 8v8s.

>>147673828
Old Forest Colony was amazing and I miss it so much. Forest Colony Snow was hands down my favorite map in the game.

it got shit on with 12v12 a bit but it's still way more enjoyable than new FC is.

>>147673679

That's true
Interesting to see all the traffic paths for the maps, let's you know what's going on

>>147673683
Both alpine peaks and river city are much worse than forest colony. Forest colony is just a run of the mill shitfest, but alpine is aggressively cancerous trash for degenerates and river city somehow has the worst visibility of any map in the fucking game despite having no foliage or fog. River shitty also has blockades that don't show up on the map and horrible terrain features like the base of the middle structure has a curb that's too high so you can't get off the shitfuck zone without jumpjets, because bidepal fucking robots can't bend their knees.

Polar highlands instantly becomes the straight up worst map in the entire game, invasion maps included, if some retards vote conquest on it. Grim plexus becomes almost as bad if it's domination.

>>147674531
>River City

Opinion immediately discarded, keep being a shitter

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Do you guys remember the old-old forest colony before they put the crysis 2 stock boat in?

>mfw 20,000 drops on forest colony.
>mfw water is death meme.
>mfw retards kept insisting on going water anyway.

>>147675124
Some of the most dreaded words.

Going water!

>>147674883
Got a single fact to back that up?
>fucked up terrain features
>everything blends into the building/concrete textures at long range
>vision modes can't reach across the river

>>147675564
Only bad terrain features are the steps up from the water in places being half a centimeter too high for certain mechs

The map layout is excellent with high cover for various types of combat. Long range decks have options, brawlers have multiple approaches on either side of the map. The Citadel has diminished focus the better you are because it has tons of counter positions.

Vision modes can't reach out for shit period, and Forest Colony has infinitely worse visibility than River City. Mechs stand out just fine on River City.

Fighting can take place at literally any of the middle third of the map, with multiple options to approach any area. That doesn't happen on most maps and sure as fuck doesn't happen on Forest Colony. Solo queue might be a rush to the Citadel all the time but I wouldn't know because solo queue is fucking garbage.

>>147675124
Putting the boat on FC was one of the best decisions PGI have ever made. It turned the map from okay into perfection.

Gonna kill myself.

Been fun fags. Bye.

ded

>>147632415
they don't talk about space only robots

they fear the space

Why don't PGI just make an xbone port? M$ still owns the rights don't they? I hear WoT is made a killing on 360, they could use the cash to hire some fucking staff members with some wits about them. It's painful just watching the game die a slow death.

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>>147680385
this reminds me that hawken is coming to ps4 and reloaded is looking to bring back more customization later on in their scheme

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Should I emulate Zone of the Enders 2nd Runner, or get the HD edition for PS3?

>>147682863
HD edition

They fixed the frame drops

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>MWO crashes and crashes my computer
>All video/audio/button config are reset
>Weapon groups somehow remain the same
I don't understand

Ohmy god... Imperius is STILL shitposting on the forums about how PGI isn't getting any of his old man dollars because it's not a MadCat MK. II

>>147681979

They're not looking to bring anything in. It's a shitty excuse their community manager pulled out of her ass.

If they wanted customization, they wouldn't have gutted the old system so completely, or split the robots they had in half so they could increase the grind.

>>147680385

Because PGI is a shitty company who can't even code switchable ammo types. A port to anything at this stage is very unlikely.

hello?

>>147681979
>hawken is coming to ps4
People keep mentioning this, but why does it matter?
Isn't the game still dead?
Isn't the dev team still dead?
Did they announce actual new content alongside this?

>>147687419
they broke nda silence after e3

https://www.playhawken.com/

>>147686920

Hi!

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>>147687419

The whole thing is extremely retarded. Skim the ancient hawken ribbit or their actual forums for the whole story. All 200 or so remaining players are pretty upset with the way the totally awesome horken savior console ports are being handled.

It's comparable to the height of Adhesive's dumbness.

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>you want to know about horken?
>sign this NDA and I'll tell you about horken.

Shit's gotten ridiculous.

>>147689849
you know what's even more ridiculous?

you spending any effort or time bitching and whining about a game you dont even play and barely played when it was popular

quit trying to pretend you know everything it's tiresome and nobody is impressed with your posturing about your e-cred

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>>147691354

It takes legit 20 seconds to find funny horken posts. Also I'm motivated to shit on it because the fanatic, super corrupt, NGNG tier secret squirrel dev fuckbois who were holding the game up forever have been sold out, stabbed in the back repeatedly, forbidden to talk to the console player audience, and are treated like lepers, thus letting me tell them to eat fucking crow again.

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k

>>147683891
But what does it have over emulating?

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>there will never be good times like this in kong again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzXfv3BHYw

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>>147695861

You don't know just how STRONK we were at one point.

>>147697847

If only I could go back to those Closed Beta days. Those were good times.

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>>147697847
>AngryIronworker
>Buckton
>Jackattack
>Pinecone
>Raptorian
>Rhenis
>Turdstar
>Valk
>Zekht
>tfw 2013 was 3 years ago
where did the time go

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>>147698584

It was invested into shit F2P games, or spent waiting for space games to release.

Most of the people in that screenshot will never play MWO again.

>mfw you still can't even save setups to load later and have to do everything manually

>Lasers are hitscan
>Lasers have infinite ammo
>Lasers a light as fuck
>Lasers run rather hot
>Lasers do solid damage

>Ballistics require aim and lead
>Ballistics have a limit
>Ballistics are heavy as fuck
>Ammo can explode
>Ballistics run rather cool
>Ballistics do slightly more than lasers

Honestly I don't think the divergence in damage to drawbacks is really fair here.

>>147699419
- Lasers spread damage

There's your missing link anon. Now, about the balance of those missiles weapons...

>>147701241
Ok, true ballistics are pinpoint, but I really wish they were a tad lighter or didn't explode. I feel like they are rather inflexible.

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The Linebacker might be a shitmech, but it'll at least look cool right? Its gonna be hard to fuck up a mech like that.. right?

>>147701842
It's hard to not fuck up a heavy mech with a fixed 390 XL engine. A 60 tonner even gets 2 tons of extra pod space for one less internal heatsink and less armor, but of course at that point you might as well use a Stormcrow.

It's a concept doomed at birth, capt'n. Only way it is going to survive now is if it gets absolutely ridiculous quirks and if ghost heat 2.0 screws over mechs with heavier weapons loads.

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>>147701842

It's gonna take all of FD's robot magic to make it not look like ass.

ded gaym
ded kong
ded genre
ded hopes and dreams of all old men
ded warboss

>>147688172
>>147691814

To be honest, they could be treating the PC players much worse based on a business stand-point. These new devs bought an IP that's been deader than ded on PC, with a non-sustainable business model and are trying to bring it back to life.

I loved hawken but even I knew the game was dead way back when. The people who kept playing after that should be happy they're even being told they're getting new content.

>>147708597
>treat potential players and customers poorly
>???
>no profit

That's some strong reasoning you have there.

>>147710056
What customers? What potential?

Do you mean the HUNDREDS of players that are still playing on PC?

>>147710621
Exactly. It's dead Jim. And why do you think that is? Adhesive before and Reloaded for a while now sat on their little hill and deigned to throw insults and crumbs at their players and customers until there were almost none.

>>147710823
I believe it died because of a failed business model that the game started and nearly ended with. But the communication and NDA shit didn't help.

Are you against the new devs trying to bring the game back to life?

>>147712553
>new devs behave just as pompously and secretively as the old ones

Yes, just keep using the same failed strategy over and over. Surely it will work this time!

>Are you against the new devs trying to bring the game back to life?

No. I can't wait for them to start trying to do that. Surely they will start any day now.

>>147712818
The failed strategy I meant had to do with how they monetized the game which Adhesive obviously fucked up.

As far as the new devs "not trying" I don't understand how you can think that with the release of the console ports and the new monetization method. Unless you're only talking about the PC version.

>>147714000
I am talking about the pc version.

>>147714137
Well they did make a post saying they'll be updating the PC version and if(big if) the console version is successful it can only help all platforms.

The fact that they have been keeping the non-profitatable PC version alive all this time while working on ports is a pretty good sign they care about it.

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>>147704412
>It's gonna take all of FD's robot magic to make it not look like ass.
And no amount of robot magic will make it not play like it.

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>>147671046

>tfw someone saves and later uses one of your images

Is there any word on how long will it take for the Kodiak to become available for cbills?

>>147719359
Most mechs comes out for cbills about 3 months after release. A few exceptions like the urbanmech took way longer.

>>147703464
It'll be as fast as a stormcrow, but will never compare to one.

>>147720995
It'll be outclassed by the Stormcrow.

At least the Stormcrow is small enough that it can torso twist.

This thing on the other hand will be comparable to the Ebon Jaguar or the original Nova.

No quirks either, because if they put quirks on it, then they'll need to quirk the unquirked clan mechs too.

>>147703464
>if ghost heat 2.0 screws over mechs with heavier weapons loads.
Fuck I forgot about that

>dire whales can't go over the same amount of alpha damage as locusts without overheating lol :^):^):^)

>>147703464
The Linebacker doesn't even use all its internal heatsink slots anyways, it only takes 4.

>>147721301
The Linebacker will most likely have quirks. Many bad Clan robots have quirks. Are you retarded? Many have mediocre quirks or ones that don't go far enough to make up for all the Clan nerfs, but some are showered in them (IFR, SMN).

>>147721301
>No quirks either, because if they put quirks on it, then they'll need to quirk the unquirked clan mechs too.

That makes zero sense anon. The Summoner, which is by all rights a better mech than the Linebacker could hope to be, has tons of quirks including the incredibly rare +speed quirk. It has shitty weapon quirks but that's the nature of Clan mechs.

EBJ and TBR have never and will never need positive quirks, same with the SCR and HBR. NGR won't either. Kodiaks damn sure never needed them. DWF does need some agility quirks though, but only really some extra twist angle and a little accel/decel.

>>147721386
And Summoner is so bad even the quirks can't save it.

>>147721612
Summoner makes an incredibly underrated brawler and a decent gauss/PPC or 2PPC poptart. That's about it, sure, but the Summoner does have roles it can perform well in right now thanks to all the quirks it has. It needs better omnipods before anything else though.

Summoner will take a shit all over the Linebacker. Linebacker's going to have quirks.

>>147721723
>brawler
>poptart
Ded meta, ded mech

>>147722593
back to the tier 5 solo queue with you, shitter

>>147699419
>>147701241
>>147701650
You think ballistics are weak in mwo? Well they were even more underperforming in tabletop. Especially once double heatsinks came out and their whole low heat advantage was negated.

Then they started on releasing specialty ammo and ultra autocannons and all sorts of shit but they wouldn't have had to if ballistics were balanced with energy weapons in the first place.

>>147721723
>Summoner brawler

So you're going to be spamming 5x SRM6's with god fucking awful weapon convergence? Good job, you're literally hoping to facehug them to deal full damage.

>PPC poptart
Arguably the better option, but only thanks to the quirks for it.

Summoner really needs more hardpoints.

>>147727902
5ASRM6 with the missile spread quirks works out very well, and the arms work out fine for aiming thanks to all the JJs

It has squishy arm syndrome and that's the only downfall of it, well that and the TBR can do 4ASRM6 4SPL with better cooling

>/acg/ is dead again
jej

Anyways, can I transfer AC Nexus data directly to Last Raven or do I have to go through Ninebreaker first?

>>147730462
You can transfer directly to LR

>>147698584
>angryironworker
a sad loss.
>buckton
fuck him.
>jack
it was for the best.
>pinecone
who?
>raptorian
a faggot
>rhenis
a faggot
>turdstar
a family man
>valk
a faggot
>zekht
a faggot

>>147691354
What's even more ridiculous is retards like you thinking the current developers give more of a fuck about the game than the previous ones did.

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>>147733526
>what's even more riduclous
nah

>>147698539
That wasn't closed beta, it must have been late 2012 you can see kaelus in there.

Are you enjoying your dead robots, my main men?

>>147734126
If Vass was there it's more like 2014, he migrated over from Reddit after Laser and Kaelus had published a bunch of KongKasts.

>>147734732
Vass didn't join Kong until 2016 you stupid faggot

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New shitmech is available: https://mwomercs.com/linebacker

R8 your h8, m8

>>147735174
That camo scheme looks fucking amazing

>>147735174
>Hero doesn't have JJs and a CT weapon

One job, PGI.

I wonder if the Linebacker Warhorn will be an alternate wolf howl akin to the Kodiak's

>>147735174
>the only 3E RT is on the hero
lul

>>147735810

But muh 6 energy shoulder points. Muh badder podspace. Muh energybarf meta.

>>147736096
Clan laser vomit has been dead for almost a year now

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>>147735174
HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
I GRABBED HARD.
LOOK AT THAT FUCKING CAMO.

>>147735174

390XL engine, 16T to work with for weapons unless you start stripping armor.

That's not really worth the high ground speed, honestly.

>>147735174
>5x missile 5x energy builds
>6x energy side torso builds

It's still shit.

I mean it can't even do the Timber Wolf brawler build. It can only imitate it with 4x SRM6 (no artemis cuz' too low tonnage) and 6x small pulse. Low on ammo at that point, only 20 shots worth, so you'd have to downgrade to er smalls to get that extra ton for the 25 shots of missiles, and you'd have space for extra heatsinks or a targeting computer.

Laser vomit will just be 6x medium pulse or er mediums, which sucks ass. Medium pulses will only fit 5 extra heatsinks which won't be enough, and 6x er mediums suck for the burn time and the amount of space available will be problematic.

This thing can't even PPC properly!

>>147737465
So you're really complaining that you can't run the same build on a 65 ton mech that you can run on a 75 ton mech?

Is this really the IQ of your average clanner? It explains a lot about Kong these days.

>>147737465
Everyone already knew it will be an unsalvageable shitmech.

>>147737689
Their IQs generally match the tonnage of the mech they're in.
Lookin' at you Kit.

>>147737465
2ERPPC with 21DHS

6MPL with 21DHS

6SRM6 with 5t and 16DHS

It has 4 engine sinks and you can strip the arms down to get you a decent bit of free tonnage for some builds

2ERPPC will likely be the best thing it does if the energy go in the missile mounts and load from top to bottom

>>147737906
>2ERPPC with 21DHS
Summoner does it better thanks to jumpjets.

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>>147737906
Torso energy, I'm almost certain of it.

>>147738335
It has 3 slots to fill on each torso

>>147738238
Never said it was going to do anything better than anything, just saying that's likely to be the best build for it. I wouldn't be surprised if it got some manner of ERPPC quirks somewhere considering the Prime loadout too.

krusty kit

>it's another "have to buy all the package options to get all the good omnipods" episode

Sick of these reruns honestly

>>147735174
>November

This has to stop.

>>147739518
It's like a Mech Calendar. So far I think November, October, September, August, and July have the best looking mechs.

>>147739956
November's pretty to look at but she's a gold digger who will take your money and leave you with nothing but broken promises and child support for 18 years

However we're missing a mech for April.

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PLACE YOUR BETS ON WHAT THE DECEMBER GRAB DEAL'S GONNA BE

MAD CAT MK II?

BLACK LANNER?

BUSHWACKER?

SOME SHITMECH LITERALLY NO ONE CARES ABOUT OR ASKED FOR?

>>147740153
They were hard at work improving Community Warfare in April instead :^)

>>147740376
BANE? With a surprise guest appearance of ATMs, rotary autocannons and stream LRMs?

Hahhahahah who am I kidding

>>147740376
End off the year with Bushwacker, and the MkII. will be teased at 'MechCon with with the tournament, and some new game stuff.
Also.
T-SHIRTS
FUCKING
FINALLY

>>147740616
The ultimate April Fools no one caught.

>>147740737
If they drop a double grab deal of Bushwacker and MK II I think they'll end up making more money from that then they did with every grab deal this year combined

People's heads would explode

It'll be the Hatamoto Chi and everyone except Haruko will be disappointed

>tfw kit took a nap in your bed in your bed and it's now all full of flaked off cum

>tfw didn't cum in Kit

>you will never work in Haruko's office and have a lech on her all day
>you will never sideye her as she bends over and gets her skirt caught on a desk and it hikes up over the thigh band on her pantyhose
>you will never secretly place a go-pro camera under her desk and take videos of her crossing and uncrossing her legs and get a cornucopia of beautiful upskirt shots
>you will never watch her bounce her high heeled shoe on her foot
>you will never get the opportunity to stare at her tiny, succulent toes through her nylons when the shoe falls off

Why do we even live?

>>147743075
because the world needs cucks to laugh at

2016/7/7/12116666/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-specs-release-date-price-official

is this my next video card kong?
or should I go for a 970 or amd 480?

>>147743075
go back to stalking anime expo meetup pictures for her images greg

>>147735174
>give the worst mech the best camos and best hero names
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEwWzMz99A

Does PGI have no idea what they're doing or do they know what they're doing all too well?

>>147743642
no

>>147744391
For as much shit as people give them, you don't get this far being stupid.

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rise from your grave

Is 2erppc 2lpl good on Huelander IIC-A, no watching out for ghost heat, just mashing alpha strike.

>>147752140
Eh. It'll work, but it's pretty meh.
4LPL is a lot more fun, just be sure to fire them as independent groups of two.

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>Chim will never return from the dead and teach me the ways of the quad PPC Awesome
we are truly at the end of times

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fjjmeBnAwg

Triggered Dashing : A Man With No Country

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>>147754723

>>147737906

It might be the only real way to work this given the dearth of podspace otherwise. Strip the arms almost completely, stick with LT/RT weapon mounts. Even with the extra weight it's not like you're gonna really run out of space to work.

>>147743642
Get a 1070 once supplies stabilize.

1070>1060>RX 480>970

>>147758157
>spend 600 dollars for a 1070 instead of 250 for a 1060
???

>>147758867
sorry meant to type 500

>>147732902
>a sad loss
>also the only name not shit on

that's way too kind anon, i oughta get back on one of these days. being a normie sucks sometimes

>>147754723
This is like watching those steering wheel underhive old men playing mwo.

>>147754723
>>147755143
What's this meme?

>Mauler MX90 with 4 uac5s
Somebody stop me, I am a killing machine. Mash left click for 600+ damage each match.

10

Linebacker was sexy.
FD is a God.

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>thread

>>147737443
16 tons is enough for 2lpl and 4erml
Still worse than a stormcrow

>>147769007
It only has two tons less to work with than a stormcrow when you factor in the 4DHS, so not by that much.

Given its plethora of ST hardpoints it actually works out pretty even to the SCR.

>>147769270
It's nowhere even with the stormcrow. Besides running cooler and having more potential energy hardpoints, stormcrow has incredible hitboxes that no other mech has.

>>147770428
The cooling is very even between them. Again, the SCR gets 2t on it, and the LBK can strip arms to further even that. LBK just can't do small pulse boating, that's it.

LBK will have shit hitboxes though that's for sure.

>>147770428
And don't forget the Stormcrow is a medium while the Lightbacker is a heavy.

An XL390 though, jesus. That would be overengined even on most assaults not to even mention a heavy in the lighter end.

>>147725324
>the old days of rev gl micro stun will never return

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>>147725324
>>147772857
>I will never again be stuck trying to carry faggots with the rocket launcher/grenade launcher one-two punch inf
>we will never have the stat point system back
>we will never have the old Hawken HUD back
>we will never get good, new maps
>we will never get the gang back together again

As shit as the game is now, and as much as I hope it dies and stays dead, I still miss it. The /hwk/ mumble was a fun place, and I wish I had been around to witness the tournament team.

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ATTENTION KONG LORDS ATTENTION KONG LORDS
THERE IS A MATCH TONIGHT
ATTENTION KONGLORDS

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>page 9

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>>147775758
SMASH THAT MUTHUH FUARKIN MUMBLE BUTTIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it me or is the Urbanmech actually kind of good?

At the very least I seem to win more with it than any other mech.

yeah sorry guys I got caught up in shit and forgot to remind everyone we had a game tonight. I've been off my ball for the last couple weeks but I'll try harder. Playing tournament matches is fun when it actually works.

>>147776431
2lpl is always decent

>>147772857
>>147773506
>never
not with that attitude

>>147773506
I miss scrapping mechs with the EOC as inf

Maybe the Linebacker will have like, -40% PPC cooldown and -40% PPC heat, or something.

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>this build

>>147789585
> linebacker
> quirks
So if they quirk the linebacker, they will look like hypocrites if they don't quirk hellbringers as well.

'Bringers do the same 5 er med 1 clpl build that's beikg toted for the 'backer. Far as I know, both are just as squishy. Why not give hellbringers ppc heat gen quirks to enable their stock loadouts as well, then?

>>147791389
Ebin has no quirks, doesn't need them.
Hellbringer has ECM so they won't quirk it simply for that reason.

>>147791904
HBR is highly limited to using just that one fucking left side torso omnipod which forces it's builds to become easily neutered.

Give HBR omnipods with stricture quirks but no ecm, I'd like to be able to build it like the warhammers descendant it is.

EBJ on the other hand is slaughtered hilariously easy when it shows itself.

>>147790625
>Best served retarded.

>>147791389
>they will look like hypocrites if they don't quirk hellbringers
Your logic does not follow. The Hellbringer has a lot more pod space than the Linebacker does.

Are you really having problems in the Skillbringer? Really?

>>147796319
Best not to think about it too much. There's people who have no idea about anything and claim all sorts of shitmechs are strong and all sorts of strong mechs are shit.

>>147796319
And the linebacker has the same amountof energy hardpiints available to it as the hellbringer. Builds laser vomit just as similarly despite tthe huge engine.

So hellbringer gets a couple of heatsinks for its extra podspace, but linebacker should get quirks on top of its speed tradeoff?

So am I the only one who thinks it would be a cool idea to have a minute long period to switch mechs after map select? I always feel a little bummed when I switch mechs and then get a map that is really good for the mech I just switched off of or I am on a mech that has a hard time on a certain map.

>>147800493
>linebacker has ferro and endo
>hellbringer doesn't
???

>>147800553
NO INFORMATION WARFARE ALLOWED

TOO MUCH WORK, ENTITLED NIGGER

>>147800603
I take it the mech switch idea has been an idea floating around, but they won't do it because it's too much work?

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>>147741862
>>147741738
>>147649750

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>>147737870
Being small and fast is clearly the smarter choice though, especially when you're having fun

Guys, Kakos is alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRPb5NtXhto
Even Kanajashi says "don't buy it, it's a shit mech."

>>147803412
>20 minute long youtube video
>"should you purchase a single type of mech"
what? Is this some kind of kaelus-tier narcissism?
"Let's all listen to me talk about food for the next 2 hours"

>>147804729
I don't see the problem. He goes over possible builds and compares it's capabilities to existing mechs, plus as he said in the video it's a test run for this type of video. He may make it shorter in the future if you give him some constructive criticism in the comments as opposed to calling him a narcissist in the general.

>>147805082
The problem is that it's 20 minutes long.
He could easily trim that down to 5-8 minutes

>>147805347
Tell him that, not me. I personally don't mind a 20 minute video.

>>147800493
The HBR has a 7 ton advantage in weight capacity compared to the LBK. That is not "a few".

>>147800694
There's a lot of interesting ideas floated. Most of them won't be implemented.

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>>147775758

Oh shit.

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>mfw Pizzacuck doesn't post that there are two more upcoming matches.

8:30 pm and 10:30 pm shitter coast time. Check the doc.

>>147813961
that's west coast time right?

>>147813961
don't worry shaix was on top of everything and boogie made a backup doc

I want a fucking real mech sim. Why is this genre so dead?

I backed MAV in alpha but its still pretty much a piece of shit that no one plays and pretty much no features I had hoped for are making it in. The game is an arena mech game.

I just want a game where you use basically the entire keyboard to do tones of shit in combat. Where pretty much every environmental condition is taken into account and there is a persistent war of some sort so that battles actually matter.

>>147814954
I was with you up to that last part.

>persistent war
>battles actually matter
Choose one and only one.

>>147815070
I'm talking about like, the one in chromehounds, not like the one in planetside. The chromehounds one you could actually win and when your faction got knocked out you had to join one of the other factions. It was pretty cool and when you were starting to lose a war or win a war it was super hype.

>>147815201
That sounds cool. What happens when there's only 1 faction?

>>147815575
They win, theres a week period where there wasn't any war, all the squads pick who they are going to join in the next war. Everyone votes for their next npc president, new parts got introduced (I think the winning faction got more parts.)

Another thing I should mention is that in order to participate in the war you HAD to join a squad. Whenever you logged in you got put into your squads lobby where there was like voice chat and stuff. Squads maxed out at a small amount (like 20 or something) and those were the people you played with the entire time you did any war matches.

You could do free battles and stuff but the war was the real game. Another unique feature was that since it was on xbox there was no external voice chat. They worked that into the game. You could get voice chat two ways in the game, one was capturing com towers across the map, and the other was having a commander mech.

Each teams commander mech basically spent the entire match looking at his expanded map(which took up the whole screen) and calling out grid positions. They had large radios that showed enemy positions, allied positions, and within the radar range they provided voice communication even if you didn't have any towers.

Wars lasted about 3 months.

>>147816082
>on xbox there was no external voice chat

What?

360 had party chat functionality.

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>>147815575
Also this is the map, each one of those areas had between 3-5 unique maps. Balance didn't matter much with the map layout, they were more just designed as varied, vast, maps. You often spent 7-10 minutes getting to the enemy in the match. Each side spawned with 3-5 bases, of which only one is their "real" base. You picked which you wanted to spawn at in the pre-game lobby. People would have scout mechs that would scout out which base was the real base and you would alter your strategy after you found out. If you could get visual on the enemy base you would tell your artillery mech where it was and he would try and hit it. You needed a scout there for that because artillery mechs had to fire by like, math pretty much, they could fire across the entire map but they couldn't see where they were shooting. So you would fire and then your scout would tell you if you hit or not, and then you would adjust your fire.

>>147816356
You couldn't party chat, the game wouldn't let you. You could private chat though, so sometimes people would set up a private chat between the arty/scout, or between two soldier mechs that basically fought as wingmen. If you did that you obviously couldn't communicate with the rest of your team though.

Sometimes commander mechs would have flares equipped for signals though.

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Oh yeah, fuel too.

>>147816528
>>147816709
As interesting as chromehounds looks I doubt they'll make a sequel. Pretty sure they're gonna stick with more souls games.

R A C E W A R

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>>147789370
>What you've always wanted

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ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS

Yeah we have two games tonight.
8:30 PM EST vs. QuebecLegion
10:30 PM EST vs. -D5-

If everyone shows up I anticipate we'll have a couple of easy wins. It'll be a fun time. I'm also going to try and get the 10:30 game moved to an earlier timeslot so we can bang them both out in succession. See you guys there.

ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS ATTN: KONG LORDS

>>147821949
Thanks for being a shitlord and dropping the ball yesterday, K(uck)lord plebzzadog

>>147822418
More like pozziedog

>>147822418
Yeah it's been a rough week for me, it can't be helped. At the end of everything I had my mind elsewhere and forgot about the robots tournament. I fully accept whatever blame you want to lay on me for fucking it up since I did totally cock things up, but I'll be honest, I don't take much of the criticism I receive about the tournament very seriously. On average I spend 10 hours per week trying to make things work for our team. If I increased that to 15 or 20 you would barely see a difference and I'd be burning out twice as fast. As it stands it's difficult for me to justify doing it anyway since this whole thing is a big fucking joke to begin with and the return I see on my time investment is often negative anyway. Please not that this does not mean I have any intention of quitting or stopping, I'm just saying that if you expect me to work any harder than I currently am, you're gonna be disappointed.

I appreciate that everyone else takes it as seriously as they do, though. It's pleasant to see that we get a team of 6 players showing up even when I don't spam reminder quests in the thread.

>>147823406
Tl:dr

>I spend 10+ hours on this per week

Why the cuck would anybody do this for free and take this very seriously? Everyone knew it'd be a shitshow. No decent tourny is run this way.

I guess cuck culture is too strong.

>>147803412
I guess I don't mind him making a 20min overly indepth video, that kind of stuff is helpful for noobs who don't know much about BT or MWO.

But everyone who knows can already tell it'll be a shitmech, though. The words "locked XL390" would be a massive red flag even on assaults.

>watching kong b team fall apart in the tournament time and time again
there's something perversely satisfying about this

>>147825476
>sour grapes because you weren't even invited

>>147826242
True, I think the best part is that they're always down like 1 person when I'm around

>>147819992
>tfw finally getting the EoC on the inf
>tfw sneaking up behind people and letting a full EOC charge + grenade pound their asshole

was there a better feeling?

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>>147829723
doing it with knockback

haven't seen the ability for the dual eoc mech but actually kinda excited for it

ded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj88trJLNUg

>muh production values

>>147835024
>all these nerdy voices

completely kills it

>>147835024
nifty larping

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>>147835024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw

Page 10 meme forever.

So, any solid mech games on the horizon gerg?

>>147848965
Nope.