/lite/ Rogue-lite General

Bullet.

>>147380714
it's end game secret stuff that you only have to do if you are a completionist

So it seems that going with Afterbirth might be the right choice

>>147381113
I'd do it. If you want specifics here you go: http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/The_Binding_of_Isaac:_Afterbirth

there is a lot of nice stuff it adds

>>147381715
i wwanna fuck that shuckle

>>147381113
I may be alone in this but I recommend you don't buy it before you play it.

It's badly designed. Too random. The point where skill comes into it is too narrow between the RNG making you a pea shooter and death, destroyer of rooms.

update 99, will it be good?

>>147382973
no

>>147382973
No, there aren't even any big changes or fixes.

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>>147382973
CUZ WILL BE IN IT

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>>147383359
How long has it been? 6 months? They got a new guy on the team for advice.

>>147383020
>>147383091
>>147383145
Ok what about update 100?

>>147383359
it sucks

>>147383507
it will suck

>>147383020
>>147383091
>>147383852
how bad

>>147384546
it'll suck harder than gungeon

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>>147380706
Don't forget

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>>147382973
compared to NTT, no, there's no reason to update at all
even for Cuz

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If anyone's on the lookout for a new twinstick shooter with roguelite elements, I got Neon Chrome this sale and I surprisingly like it. Not the greatest shooting and not fast paced enough to my liking, but some neat ideas and it's really fucking polished. Plus, destructible environments means you can really stealth your way through shit.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/428750

>>147388265
This looks good but I already spent like 60.00 on this sale. I think I'm gonna tap out.

>>147381854
That's a ponyta you insensitive clod!

Please someone tell me how to win with mantis type a on hard

>>147390215
you just have to [epic /dsg/ meme here]

>>147385749
Forget what?

>>147390215
focus on boarding and hope you get lucky enough to get a decent weapon that lets you take down zolton shields, ion preferably

prioitize lvl 2 teleporter, you need at least a lvl 2 to prevent your crew from suffocating to death when they board oxygenless ships. Upgrading the medbay to lvl 2 is actually useful since otherwise you crew won't be fully healed by the time the cooldown for the teleporter is up.

Focus engi and slug sectors to bully them for being shit at crew combat

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>>147382973
>bullets no longer act as a light source in the sewers
>without fail, they will probably announce that they fixed lightning colliding with the invisible walls on 0-1 while it still happens
>strange crashes will probably still occur
nah

>be yv
>be a nigger
>shit, you're a nigger

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>>147396148

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How the fuck do you beat this asshole?

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>>147398401
Five blasts from the Super Bazooka will kill her. It's legitimately disgusting.

>>147398401
very carefully

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>>147398401
>>147399012
>People saved these shitty edits I made
Huh

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>tfw you found the yeti boss

rami has blessed my soul

>>147399315
What is wrong with that dogs mouth!

>>147399849
There is no Yeti.

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>>147398401
Proper answer: Memorize her bullet patterns and don't get close enough to eat a 「FIST」

Meme answer: Jackhammer

>>147402857
>Jackhammer
what

>>147403352
Jackhammer

>>147403473
but on the captain? i refuse to believe thats effective at all

>>147403631
Believe it.

>>147403631
The Jackhammer makes dodging the Captain's bullet patterns trivial because of how it's designed to destroy every bullet it touches, so you can take your sweet time chipping away at her health and well-being without a care in the world. Use your noggin, anon.

>>147404075
I've tried melee for the captain before, I started the fight using a melee weapon, and I died in less than a second, I can only imagine that using the jackhammer on her would be an absolutely awful idea if you consider the fact that she can charge/punch you. I beat it really easy as crystal though, then again, crystal IS an easy mode character, right?

>>147405704
You eat away at her bullets with the jackhammer and blow her the fuck out with a secondary meme weapon

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>>147398401
Be chicken

>>147406752
>didn't kill Captain by throwing the black sword

shameful

>>147398401
it's an her

>>147407624
nothing in that post said anything about her gender

>>147407925
is that so

>>147408649
I don't see anything related to gender there.

Someone please keep this thread alive for 2 hours while I am away. The previous 2 hit bump limit, it would be a shame to see this one die.

ok

Could horror elements be implemented in a roguelite?

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>>147415254
yes

darkest dungeon

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>>147415309

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>>147415309
>>147415393

This fourth of july is doing this general no favors

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>vlambeer took all cigarettes out of the game to get a lower ESRB rating
>old fish's sprite looks like a dumb hick
>gator men can't idle anymore
Man I miss smoking gators

>>147416435
Vlambeer is the definition of jewish

>>147416491
but rami is islami

>>147416728
no he practices salami

How do we fix the WEAPONS in Nuclear Throne?

>>147418909
There's nothing to fix except for lightning weapons

>>147419102
Which one in particular and how?

>>147418909
add more

>>147419272
Lightning damage is still bugged. You can only have one hit in a frame making anything other than the lightning pistol and rifle useless ammo wise. Plus the whole not being able to hit Throne II in 0-1

>>147418909
allow melee damage to stack. I hate getting eagle eyes only for it to gimp my shovels

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>tfw you get an amazing run

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>>147419915
>tfw you get a mediocre run

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>>147420156
>tfw you get a bad run

>>147418909
Make them more useful and interesting like in Gungeon.

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>>147420681
>tfw you get a bad gun

>>147418909
You could add more Hybrid weapons past the first loop.
I.E Pop Gun is a hybrid weapon, so is the Jackhammer, Flame weapons, etc.

>>147421815
ideas?

>>147421893
energy or explosives + bolts

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>>147421893
I suppose the instant projectile versions of weapons are the "bolt" version, but meh.
Generally there is very few bolt versions of weapons, while Energy and Explosion HOARDS hybrid weapons.

>>147423986
this chart is all kinds of fucked up

>>147424117
Welcome to Nuclear Throne, where telling apart weapons from sprite alone can be dangerous

>>147424182
why is one row 4 entries while the other is 5, also how is the smg a mix of shell and bullet?

>>147424321
>He thinks thats the SMG

>>147423986
why the fuck is the incinerator in energy when it goes in explosive?

>>147424464
still, it doesn't behave like a shotgun

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Is wasted any good?

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>>147424643
maybe

>>147424567
Shotgun has 2 properties: Projectile Spread & Bounces from walls
Bouncers IS LITERALLY BOUNCERS.

>>147423986
>bouncer SMG insead of bouncer shotgun
shamefur dispray

>>147423986
the issue with this list is what
>>147424321
said and the fact that multiple weapons are hybrids

>>147398401
Crystal

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>>147424669
I almost regret my decision

>>147421270
Is this bait? Gungeon weapons are all mostly the same feeling. Just slapping a cool sprite on top of a gun that does the exact same thing as the others doesn't make it interesting.

>>147421270
Enter the gungeon, a game heavily themed around guns and bullet with the most boring weapons and gunplay ever designed in a roguelite.

>>147427140
>the most boring weapons and gunplay ever designed in a roguelite.
You're talking about nuclear throne I assume.

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>>147428430
MAN FUCK KIRBY'S RECOVERY SHIT CAN PUT YOU IN FREEFALL /BECAUSE/ YOU CAN SLIDE OFF OF THE STAGE A LITTLE BIT AFTER LANDING

>>147429207
wrong general?

>>147429328
no, i meant to post it here.

>>147428430
No, gungeon. The same gimmicks are repeated over and over with each gun and they all wind up feeling the same with a handful of exceptions.

Also NT's guns have way more punch to them whereas gungeon always feels like I'm using peashooters, which about 60% of the weapons are anyway

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>>147429478

>>147428430
>>147430287
Nice counter arguments

>>147430751
>but MOM!!!
>they're not taking my opinion on a chinese kniting subforum SERIOUSLY!!!

>>147430287
>things I don't agree with are b8

>>147429478
EtG: most guns have gimmicks and there is a large variety of them, but in the end many of them are gimped for a reason or another and you end gravitating to a few ones with actual killing capability and the starter gun to conserve ammo.

NT: less guns, but almost all of them are viable

>>147429478
Excellent bait! Have a complimentary (You)!

>>147431663
NT: Less guns, 2-3 are viable by the late game.
EtG: Large number of guns, most have specific uses and are viable in one way or another. To optimally play you will most likely use a large number of them or make use of their passives.

>>147424643
Looks too much like borderlands for my liking.

>>147432821
NT: Only a few guns are viable to casuals, the rest you can loop with if you git gud
EtG: Only a few guns are viable to casuals, the rest you can finish the game with if you git gud

>>147435871
>le casual meme
gun stats aren't subjective

>>147436280
well, git gud

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>>147436346
I have though, I 100%'d both games and I play good games now.
If anyone needs to git gud it's you because that's not how gitting gud works, unless a game has built-in weapon upgrades (and usually it's limited anyway).

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>finally got to loop 4
Thank you based weeb poultry

>>147436619
>I have though, I 100%'d both games and I play good games now.
>If anyone needs to git gud it's you because that's not how gitting gud works, unless a game has built-in weapon upgrades (and usually it's limited anyway).
bud I 100% both games too, and if you didn't know both nuclear throne and gungeon have weapon upgrades

>>147436915
I meant something like spending money to upgrade a certain stat of a certain weapon, which some games (although not roguelites, at least not last time I checked) have.

>>147436997
mutations can upgrade weapons, that's spending a currency
keys can be used to open chests, or shells to buy items, again another spending of currency

>>147437153
That's not what I meant and you damn well know that you cheeky cunt.

>>147437240
i dont know what you mean

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>people taking bait over nt vs etg guns
come on nt players you don't have to try and tell people the guns are better than in etg, everyone knows already

>>147437660
>le ebin nt guns are good maymay

>>147437660
even though I agree with you, no need to call differing opinions bait

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>>147437479
I meant something like this

>>147438051
ohhh, so it would be like upgrading a weapon DIRECTLY with rads or shells

>>147438051
game?

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HELLA RAD

>>147440703
Rad

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>>147440703
HELLA RAD

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>>147443249

>>147416435
there were cig smoking gators? anyone have a gif?

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>>147427341
>Get rocket launcher
>Get good mutations
>Get Bone Marrow and start with Golden Crossbow
>Die a horrible death because stop paying attention to walls
>Did get respawn from Bloodlust, but was already on top of a spider

>>147446989
nice blog f@m

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>>147446367

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>>147448358
>you can kill enemies with every gun known to man and then some
>but no one can smoke, think of the children

same with swear words and shit, it's weird to me

>>147418909
rework weapons that remove enemies and projectiles in one click
buff lasers but nerf energy sword
remove melee in general
buff bullets, shells, and flame
make explosives useful without boiling veins
>>147421270
but anon every weapon is a copy paste slapped on with a gimmick or a different projectile
>>147426810
is this northernlion

>>147450384
>Ginger
>Crazy eyes
>Big lips
>Weeb
Nigga that is nothing like NL

>>147450564
>Egg head
Could've fooled me

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Favorite mutant?

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>>147452980
hhh

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>>147418909
- Remove unconditional reflection from Melee weapons by reducing the range that they can reflect projectiles and limit it to the initial frames of the swipe animation. As a payoff, make reflected projectiles travel faster and deal more damage.
- (Doing that in general fixes that blindspot between melee swipes and the player)

- Revert E.Hammer's ammo cost to the old amount. Reduce E.Hammer's range to lower the effectiveness of tunnel ratting, rather than making the weapon unpleasant to use in general. (If the above is done, you could make the reflect range the destruction range)

- Make Shotgun Shoulders increase the speed of shells on top of the bouncing. It's an utterly useless mutation in open areas.

- Make Recycling Gland proc with pop bullets. I don't care that they're firing shells, they're using bullet ammo

- More Flamepop weapons

- Add an actual downside to cursed weapons. Higher ammo use for cursed weapons? Fourth dimensional beings periodically coming to our world to reclaim what is rightfully theirs? Increase weapon drop rate of high-tier weapons when double cursed, just to piss people off? Something.

>>147453142

How do I git gud at Risk of Rain? I die on the second stage every time. Even with 4-6 powerups and two drones.

Are the unlockable characters significantly better?

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>>147453908
They're all pretty good, commando and engie are the most beginner friendly. You just have to kite and prioritize enemies like the elite variants that fire missiles at you. Abuse higher ground against enemies that can't jump up to them and abuse piercing attacks against the enemies who chase you down

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>this is energy sword's range

>>147453908
Get artifact of Command and Glass, they're in the hive/snow area respectively.
The first one makes the game piss-easy, it's cheesy almost.
The second one makes the game much faster and more fun, also it's a free bonus if you happen to hit 9999 health anyway.
The other characters are different but they won't carry you to the end.
And as always, keep playing until you git gud.

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beep boop

>>147454204
>>147454232
Thanks guys, I've always enjoyed these types of games but they are always difficult to say the least. Could never get very far in Rogue Legacy either, despite loving it.

What usually fucks me up beyond belief are the damned jellyfish or other flying enemies. I get the kiting and abilities, but having to jump around to kill these things while I'm avoiding ten other enemies is tough.

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>>147456784
Flying enemies are really squishy, I usually just lure them to a spot where no enemies are and take them out from there. The jellyfish line themselves up at your level if you have enough open ground, also actives like the missile launcher really excel at taking them out

>>147456221
Fuck the throne

>>147452980
Freg

>>147448358
When was this? I never saw this animation.

>>147432702
He's not entirely wrong. There's less guns with unique properties that you'd expect. I'm talking about something a little more than point and click. Like a gun that does way more damage after bouncing off of a wall.

That's not to say there are no guns like this, but the ones that are don't tend to do enough damage to reward the added skill

>>147448995
>guns that sign breastses

>>147465386
Oh and just to add, I don't think Gungeon is a bad game, just has some bad design choices. The skill to RNG ratio in Gungeon is still probably better than any other Roguelite I've played.

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>>147466957
seriously, why are instruments of mass destruction okay but bad words not, are people afraid of having some feelings hurt or some shit?

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fucking buff gators god damn

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>>147467612
It's the dead body Fucking
Ruger Fucking
Bullet Fucking
Way too long grenade FUCKING

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>>147456221
>>147460139

>>147467612
Sticks and stones will break your bones, but words will hurt forever.

>>147469534
Yung Venuz's Bizzare Adventure: Cash Money is Forever

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fuck this thing

fuck this thing when they put two of them in the same fucking room

>>147471460
Those are pretty bad on lost/keeper runs.

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>>147453142
Melting has a stunning ass.
if you were to show this picture to anyone on the street, They'd be stunned. Surely.

>>147472637
I shouldn't have looked at that picture.

>>147474493
Were you stunned?

Surely.

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New animation system is working swell. Got the idle, movement, hit, and ded frames for regular bandits. Now, to move on to everything else.

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>>147476597
He's so tiny