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Previous : >>147305338

>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam!)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA) , Orsha (NA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If your guild is recruiting, please post recruitment notice in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
TakeItEasy (Moonie_)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)

Good builds :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c

Remember to REPORT and IGNORE shitposters instead of giving them the attention they want and helping them shit up the thread.
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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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nth for highlanders are the CUTEST
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>>147345476
>letting discord make the thread again
ebic
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I want a pet popolion. If Conversion had mobs scale to your level and you kept them after changing maps, Paladin would be the pokemon class!
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>FOE (Jinsae)

who ?
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>>147345745
The pokemon master build is Paladin 3 Oracle with Change+conversion though.
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BIG FAT KABBALIST TATS
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>>147345658
>Whiles about a group you dont like making a new thread
>Doesn't make a thread themselves
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When do we get the penguin mount?
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When do we get marriage!
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>>147345898
If he made a thread, he has less to complain about.
and ofc making a thread is a little effort.
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who is the best shitposter of /tosg/ namedrop him

i want to know him
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>>147346160
sfdghsf
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>>147346160

Anonymous
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>>147345990
Tuesday!
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>>147346160
(You)
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>>147346160
Finally, the thing that I'm excel at.
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>>147346371
Thank you anon, i'll keep doing my best.
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Hello, does the game still run at 2fps and are the servers still shitty?
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>>147346561
Still two hoglans.
Servers are not as bad as they were but certainly not good.
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>>147346561
5fps. Servers are mostly fine but ping can sometimes be oddly variable.
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>>147346561
The servers are "mostly" fixed so whilst you won't lag solo, its still shit during wb or gvg
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>>147346160
Capy and his luck
No way someone can get all the rare shit he gets in a legit way without having to buy anything.
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>>147346042
Never. Stop asking
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>Sunday
>2pm
>15minute queue for 145 dungeon and going up

How can a game be this dead.
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>>147346160
koenig
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I'm new, did I do good? ^_^
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>>147346896
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>>147346896
Woah woah woah

WOAH
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>>147346891
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here

A game having queue means it's dead?
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>>147346891
Nobody likes running that piece of shit dungeon and most people got their character builds that they liked on the 2nd or 3rd try, you're too late to do it.
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>>147346896
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>>147346896
i need more koening porn anon
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>>147346896
weet weet!
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what did he mean by this
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>>147346896
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>>147346896
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>>147346891

>just ran it
>5 minute queue on Orsha

Git gud.
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>>147347109
I don't play the game, what's wrong with the spear?
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>>147346896
what the actual fuck
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>>147346896
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>>147346768
He's always poor as fuck too, since he doesn't sell most of the shit he gets.
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>>147346896
DELETE THIS
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Feels when your crush hasn't logged in for 3 days.
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>>147346896
>FILE DELETED
thanks mimi
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>>147346896
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>>147346896
God bless you, anon
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>>147346970
Sorry anon, no time for attention whoring with you when some madman literally just made porn of a tosg user >>147346896
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>>147347186
It's pretty much a shitty version of a spear that while still rare is not "drops from extremely powerful end game world boss" rare.
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>>147347186
stats are normal, too normal for a 30m weapon
worth 2m at the very best
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>>147347302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yio-O4cMg9k
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>>147347429
>tfw don't have a crush because none of you are actually girls
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ITS THE PVP ARENA ALREADY IMPLEMENTED?

HOLY FUCK
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>>147347267
And why he should? He can roll whatever he wants and already have the gear.
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>>147347508
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>>147346896
Came late to the party, what was it?
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>>147346896
Koenig...
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>>147347547
He has like half the things he need to roll any classes but not a complete equip for any.
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>>147347701
http://imgur.com/OsuE9Bu
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>>147346896
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>>147347839
Too lewd desu
Thanks btw
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>>147347839
who is that on the right?
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>>147348214
Me.
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>>147347839
I hate every single one of you.
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>>147348214
Me.
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>>147348214
Me.
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so when does this general go back to its roots
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>>147348214
Me.
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>>147348214
Atom
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>>147348426
you mean with excessive shitposting and begging about keys?
never ever hopefully
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>>147348214
You on the right.
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>>147347267
I wouldn't sell an Agvara cannon too
I would roll a cannoneer if i ever get my hands on one but i am sure i will have to kill atleast 10k lepus assasin in Igity Coast for one recipe.
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>>147348214
A druid
Me
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>>147346896
Who are you drawing next, anonymous artfag?
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>>147347468
This is the worst feeling.
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>>147346896
Please, we need more and not only of Koening.
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>>147348635
Atom and lolipan i'll pay for this
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>>147348750
>Atom's dick kissing lolipan's womb
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>>147348635
moomia x mianie
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>>147347720
>He has like half the things he need to roll any classes
>tfw I don't even have half the things for my class
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>>147348862
kek
thats a fusion or what anon ?
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>>147348951
It's a terrible forced meme
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>>147348860
gay
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>>147348635
Lalacow being milked by her guild.
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>>147346896
>impregnation
That's my fetish.
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>>147349052
i like this meme
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>>147349052
>that meme is bad
are you sad or mad you cant downvote them here?
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>>147348426
Are you suggesting we merge back with /rog/?
That'd be nice since both games are dead
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>>147349302
>over 100 unique ips is ded
wew lad, you clearly don't visit /vg/ much
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>>147349620
That's just me repeatedly rebooting my modem to give everyone a bit of hope
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>>147349742
Y-you too?
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>>147349783
I'm afraid this general might be just us two, anon...
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>>147349302
>this game is dead
wow buddy. really uncommon and skeptical opinion you got there.
what next? you gonna tell us >this game is shit ?
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>>147349873
I'm neither of you, as far as I know
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wiz3>link2
how do I save my character?
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>>147347267
But if i sell my shit i would have to farm again
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>>147350075
Necro2
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>>147350075
link3/runecaster
link3/ff
link3/warlock
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>>147350075
necro/sorc
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>>147349953
Objectively the game is shit.
They make it worse every patch.
I still like it though because koenig porn.
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>>147350075
One of the cookie cutter necro builds.
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>>147350460
>>147350257
>>147350105
don't listen to these guys. bank on link3 and ktos patch with rank 8 otherwise you're gonna feel stupid going link2/necro in the future cause you aren't prepared to play a necro while link3 and rank 8 is futureproof
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>>147347839

I'm so fucking hard right now
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>>147350716
>implying Necro3 won't be OP as balls
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>>147350716
This has to be the weakest baits on the history of /tosg/
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>>147350716
>rank 8 is futurproof
A decent amount of r7 classes were either bad or gimmicky, r8 will be the same.
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>>147350716
>necro summons for afk bee farming not futureproof
top laughs
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Any other BRs having problems connecting to the game or the site right now?
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I hope you all get what you want today /tosg/!
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>TP in
>Witness a live rape going down
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>>147350972
>>147351003
>>147351005
>>147351040
don't say i didn't warn you
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>>147351181
No. I had problems earlier around 4~5AM, right now is fine.

But I'm on Klai, I have no idea about Silute, Siulai or whatever is the SA server name.
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>>147351262
What was the 0cd resetting exploit you commented about before
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Anon help me choose between

>Wiz3/Link2/Necro2
>Wiz3/Link1/Sorc1/Necro2
>Special snowflake Wiz3/Thauma2/Necro2
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Somebody post a really good build. I literally do not care what kind it is, I just want a good character.
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>>147351629
Wiz3Cryo3RC
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>>147351629
Wiz3/ele3/lock
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>>147351425
I'm also on Klai but right now I can't connect to any of the NA or SA servers, neither their site.
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>>147351285
>kissing an NPC
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>>147351541

The 2 first works fine, the 3rd is bad because Flesh Cannon isn't a easy skill to hit even with Quick Cast, getting link1 or link2 for necro is a must imo.

I'm just level 210 but my path is wiz3>link>sorc>necro2, and I didn't had any problems so far.

>>147351629
Wiz3Ele3Warlock

Future Proof, and useful/good in 99,99% of the situations.
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>>147351181
Since the last maintenance. I dc every 10 minutes and can't reconnect most of the time.
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>>147351629
Just make an elememe, cyrochrono or fletcher anon.

Wiz3ele3war for elememe focused on quick cast and frost cloud
wizcyro3chrono3 focused on wall, tree, haste, reincarnate and most importantly pass
a2r1s1f3 focused on world bosses that need moving around (aka all world boss except for dullahan)
a1r3f3 focused on stationary world boss (aka dullahan) or if you're full str (since more str = more attack = better steady aim scaling)
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>>147351483
Ask Simony or read previous thread.
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>>147351285
Gotta give Mimi my hard wood and a kiss goodbye
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>>147351670
>>147351701
>>147351823
>>147351882

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner

Specifics please?
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>>147351629
cleric2>priest3>chaplain>plague doctor
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>>147351541
link2 you want to learn the hard way
sorc1 you want the balanced damage and link approach
thaum2 you want world boss/gvg reversi hijinks and mega flesh cannon
none of the above cause you won't spend the money on it like everybody else who rolled a necromancer
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>>147351541
>>Wiz3/Link1/Sorc1/Necro2

this is the only proper necro choice

with a joint penalty gem (and yes, you need to get one), your joint penalty will be 6 targets at linker1, with linker2 only giving you 8 targets (at 10 joint penalty). this effectively trivializes linker2. fucking crazy, right? I know, I thought the same thing. my mind was blown too.

>muh additional hits before breaking

irrelevant. joint penalty 6 is way more than enough. shit will die before you exhaust the # of hits to break chain.
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>>147352046
>its this missinfo again
Yeah because monster gems are easy to get right :^).
I also like your won't reach hit limit meme, you've obviously never gotten past storage you shitter
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>>147351943
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111bbbf.11233f516a7585.1f3f6185.153551

Basics
The rest is up to you.
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>>147352002
>link2 you want to learn the hard way

What's wrong with Linker 2 ?
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>>147352192
While the whole gem meme is bullshit, Necro doesn't really needs 2 ranks on linker. Rank 5 is pretty much a free choice of whatever you want for that build that doesn't has a high impact on the overall build.

And for some people the Cat buff that gives +AoE and dark att is better more links, both are fine choices.
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>>147352192
>ktos has a super buffed linker1 and 3
>we're getting ktos patch this month
>lets roll the itos gimp build instead of the most common proper ktos build
it doesn't matter. necromancer is a meme for everybody who rolled it so they can sit at bees and not a class they'll play. you talk about storage but nobody here is interested in spending 100k an hour leveling at storage so that's the first hurdle.
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>>147352348
Because you'll have basically no other damage spell besides Magic Missle until rank 6, and having only 1 dmg spell makes things really slow.
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>>147352660
thanks missinfo
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>>147352821
its truth info though, no-one actually plays necro lategame, they all sit at bees doing shitty bee erp or afking
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>>147352892
but ktos does not have
>super buffed linker1 and 3

and
>we're getting ktos patch this month
does not mean we get all ktos balance. has not been confirmed yet
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>>147352892
>If isn't a Flecher or Elememe, it's shit

I love /tosg/.
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>>147352821
tell me the other necromancer who spent more than 20million on their character? it doesn't even need to be attributes just items you found off boss.

nobody. i spent more on corpse pots than these rerolled necromancer have on their attributes and items they've got equipped.

>>147353102
i'm gonna prove how godly necromancer but it costs time and money. it's not an elememer. i spent more money on corpse pots than some of these people spent on their main characters attributes and didn't even play for a month
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>>147353267
Other classes don't get to afk at bees making millions every night anon.
Your high costs are easily balanced by your high silver gains.
So quit your whining you faggot.
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>>147353102

Doesn't necromancer support/decay turn archer classes into literal gods?
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>>147353102
It's funny, because the only thing that /tosg/ talks about when it come to Archers, is the Wugushit
I've see way more post bashing Fletchers than actually recommended them
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>Solo grind from 255-260 i
>Still need 5 more levels to escape storage hell

I hope we get quests soon
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When are they going to nuke fletchers?
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>>147353586
This week!
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>>147353728
>implying they can afford to nerf anything
and before you forumfuckers and redditards run at me with your "they nerfeds the shinobis!"
no
they BUFFED shinobi
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>>147353491
i invented the bees so i can make money cause my class costs so much. i got other necromancer together and spread the word like a gospel for this reason.

true necromancer are royalty. just being an afk bee farmer doesn't let you join the club. if you aren't swimming in money and spending it like water you aren't ready for our glory
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>>147353802
Technically they did nerf shinobi, its just they only nerfed the sword 3 shinobi variants.
Sword 3 shinobis are literally on suicide watch
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>>147353576

I've been trying to push SR2's as the supreme rank7 master race for archers but no one believes me
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Priest C3
This is my build so far
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222.15213543.11213f45516a9aa2
But I'm not sure what to take at R5, I was thinking in Chaplain, then ClericC2 and then Kabb
What do you recommend?
And if I messed up something, I have a Skill reset Potion (This will be my Main)
So feel free to fix Please!
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>>147353896
no they're not
the only change that occured is that shinobi gets 10% more damage per clone now, instead of the 100%

fuck off with your shitty misinformation
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>>147354036
im assume youre posting proof ktos san
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>>147353972
>Maxed blessing
For what reason? Were you intending to become a pardoner or something?
>Maxed revive
Ehh, could be worse
>didn't max stone skin/aspersion
wew, time to get that skill reset ready
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>>147353794
You said that last week
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>>147353586
Abbey is worse, less groups
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>>147354168
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>>147354117
How do I post proof of something that doesn't exist?
There were no nerfs to shinobis interaction to swordie3
There were no damage reductions to shinobi
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>>147354036
>10% more damage per clone instead of the 100% per clone
>not a nerf to swordsman 3
????
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>>147354168
Maxed bless for the upcoming (someday) buff
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>>147353972

Yep, you need to reroll or skill reset. Blessing shouldn't be higher than 3. Aspersion and Stoneskin should be maxed.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222.15213543.1f21334251689aa5
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>>147354439
10% MORE DAMAGE
TO YOU
INSTEAD
OF
100% MORE DAMAGE TO YOU
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>>147353972
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/eehwj181vu/


Don't listen to these shitters telling you to get 15 Asp and 5 Stone Skin, they don't play Chaplain.
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>>147349091
THIS
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>>147354168
>>147354487
Ok, I maxed Bless for the kToS buff, I think I'll rethink that.
btw What do I take for R5?
Chap>Cleric2>Kabb sounds good?
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>>147354487
>>147354168
>asp maximum for lovely +50% of something that barely noticeable
>bless max of 3 for the sweet 0.12*SPR and 0.04*INT scaling
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Requesting cookie cutter diev3 skill build so I don't have to delete my character again.
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>>147354798
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4777.1123364a5a6a75
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>>147354682
Its fine, those anons are just doomposters who don't think the korean patch is coming next month.
You might want to rethink chaplain though since its skill scales heavily off your aspersion level.
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>>147354660
Woah! That looks exactly like my build wtf!
So is it any good? It's just as I was thinking with the Chap>Cleric2,>Kabb
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>>147354905
>banking everything on Aspergilum
>a glorified autoattack that isn't Running Shot
Why? You're not even going to be autoattacking once you reach 7 when everything has 130k HP, Chaplain is such a fucking waste. You don't even need "muh 100%" stoneskin because you'll usually have a Chrono around anyway.
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>>147354168
>>147354487
Thanks misinfo agents!
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>>147355097
>i take tosg advices very seriously
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>>147354318
Are the spawns bad or something?
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>>147354985
It's good but like this guy said >>147355023 the 100% Stone Skin uptime from Capella isn't that special if you have a Chrono with Pass.
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>>147354721
>def is useless meme again
do we need to show you the webms again?
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>>147355023
So, I shouldn't take chaplain?
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Oracle (change), Pardoner (scrolls) or Kebabbalist (ein soft)?
For Paladin 3
PD is a meme.
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just buy lv17 aspersion from your favorite pardoner lmao
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>>147355262
There are less mobs but exp is slightly worse but there are less because people reroll at Storage
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>>147355289
Chaplain makes your life easy until 200+ when your damage doesn't matter and you're just a heal+buff bot anyways (unless pd) so you really should go chaplain.

People calling chaplain a meme don't understand the concept of time.
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>>147355289
you shouldn't take Chaplain, it's a rank that falls off almost immediately after you hit the next rank and you'll kick yourself for not getting something more useful like Oracle or Krivis

In your case cleric c2 oracle kebab should be good
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>>147355289
You should.
No point in playing meme meta builds if you don't like them.
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>>147355498
>taking oracle when you're taking chaplain
So it was you misinfo agents all along trying to convince him to not take chaplain.
Play the game or fuck off
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What build to make battle Oracle with Monk skill?
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>>147355620
>taking oracle when you're taking chaplain
I told him not to take Chaplain and he's still at R4, he still has time to not fuck it up
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>>147354318
You can duo Abbey and get at least 10m an hour.
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>>147355498
>taking oracle at r5
hello miss info-chan
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guys play the fucking game please this is embarrassing.
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Cleric discussion should be banned from this thread, this is terrible
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>>147355620
>Not taking Oracle and Chaplain

Counterspell+Stone skin+Prophecy blocks almost all forms of offense it's actually good.
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>>147356001
>>147355864
>>147355750
play the game
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>>147356001
rate my futureproof build

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41112228.1f2f35556174.1c21344551679aa5.23314155617193
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>>147356001
They shouldn't
They clear and make a lot of doubts in my mind, which is fine so I can make my build with all the cards on the table
You really should kill yourself anon, I guess you are one of those namedropping and ERP faggots
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>>147356117
I think you're missing his point anon, >>147355498
is saying you should take something more useful than chaplain like oracle when oracle is a r6 class and chaplain is a r5 class.
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>>147356001

I'm convinced there's not a single build that isn't shit according to these faggots.
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>>147356204
Stop theorycrafting and play the game
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>>147356365
>what is elememe the god tosg worships to and the only build people don't argue about since its VERY VERY hard to fuck up unless you're literally autistic
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>>147356472

Elememe is shit for a different reason.
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>>147356472
>tosg worships

/tosg/ doesn't worship anything, Elememe is literally the only viable build in the game (alongside with Fletchers, who are getting the axe soon enough) because it's a dev pet class. No class will be as viable as it because the developers LITERALLY built the game around him rather than build elememe around the game.
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>>147356617

He gets it.
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>>147356617
/tosg/ worships Chronomancers
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>>147356472
Really weak in Guild Battles. You barely see Ele spells being useful there.
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>>147356726
Not really. Only that one or maybe two erpers do.
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I'm making this and no one can stop me

dvine, it's all for you baby. I want to be your oracle slut.
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>>147356726

Terrible damage. First 180 levels are fucking horrible. Rank 1 useless. Quicken is broken. Reincarnate is broken. Slow is broken.
>>
>>
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41122288.1a2538425461.1a3a4354639aa5.26315a6171819a

Rate please, not really familiar with cleric so I just stacked on what I think looks good. I plan on mostly supporting, how should I distribute my stat points?
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>>147357481
There's really no reason to get oracle c2 unless you want change gender at c3. Take Kabbalists.
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>>147357481
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41122288.1a2538425461.1a3a4354639aa5.26315a6171819a
You only need one point in safety zone. It has an attribute that gives you 20 hits, which is more than enough. Max cure, it'll give you some damage.
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>>147357481
Nice try bait-kun but you're not getting any (you)s today besides this one.
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>>147357701

>>147357691
>>147357654
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>>147357654
>change gender
sweet
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>>147357691
>only one point in safety zone
DISINFO
DISINFO
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>>147357691

DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS.
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>>147357701

What am I baiting exactly?
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>>147356783
this is the effigy pvp build? that's pretty stylish. you can afk with zombies to some degree too
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>>147358017
>>147356783
i forgot to mention come afk with me. you can put the game into window mode and forget it exists while you level
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>>147356783
>Not Oracle C2
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>hit monk c3
>no gfist

?????????
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>>147358497
>gfist
>not asura
Get out.
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>>147358282
oracle c2 is absolute shit, bro. everything you need you get with oracle c1.
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>>147358596
link please
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>>147358626
But how else are you going to fit that sweet oracle c3 gender change in there when r8 comes out?
>>
Oh boy, time to roll my daily three cubes and not get my dagger!
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>>147348347
Even me?
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>>147358796
Do you really need an Arde? I can give you one for free if you're from Klaipeda
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>>147356617
>fletchers getting the axe
>ever
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>>147358796
>three cubes
>dagger
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>>147359053
Not him, but I do
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>>147359152
Brisbane?
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>>147356617
There's another class /tosg/ worships in secret. Gatherings in dark alleys and cellars, the class spoken of in hushed tones. Even those who devote themselves aren't completely comfortable speaking of its power.
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>>147359446
Excuse me?
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>>147359152
Oh, sure anon, come to Orsha Ch1 near the equipment merchant
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>>147359446
Adelaide?
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>>147359738
Kumiko?
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Karga, contact the ReRoll Templar. They're joining the GBL, so they need to withdraw their war with you today. That'll begin the war cooldown immediately, and the GBL can start next Sunday.
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>>147347839
>koenig rape
I want vanilla koenig sextimes
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>>147360164
That would imply someone could ever lover her.
And I really like the detail on the art, showing fecundation. Nice touch from someone with great taste.
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>>147356617

My sr2 rapes elememe in damage
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>>147359053
I'm a Diev, so it'd be helpful enough.
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>>147359723
Thank you, you're a saint
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Can someone on Klaipeda add me to any of the guilds? Don't care which one. I'll take whomever nabs me first. ;3

IGN is Leunculus
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What is the ultimate solo farming build for low level shit?

Someone told me that it was Corsair/Thauma variants, but are their cooldowns low enough for that?

I also remember someone telling me to go Scout with Split Arrow, but I don't know about that.
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any idea what's the point of this astral protection in legwyn
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>be elememe faggot
>meet this alpha kinoboy when lving in constructor chapel and grind together for days
>he teach me everything, answer all my questions and joke together
>think hes nice and sweet
>start crush on him
>bravely ask him to add friend and he said yes
>he hit lv90 and leave me behind
>finally reach Fedimian
>saw him pvp with 2 other player and he beat them
>ask him to quest together
>he said he cant because he already has friend quest and wont leave his friend behind
>his friends lols at me and said I'm a cuck
>he defend me and said don't listen to them
>I said its ok while running to mercenary office
>I want to kill myself
>he whisp me and said hes sorry
>I said I dont mind with "lol"
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>>147360925
I'm so sorry, but >>147359152 took it, if I manage to get another one I'll give it away again.
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>>147361271
how do you people manage to do this sort of thing?
>>
I'd like to see more variety in bosses. Not just one huge ass nigger every single time in dungeons/field bosses, but perhaps medium and small-sized bosses too. I've seen a couple of medium sized (player size) bosses in missions, but I'd like to see more of them.
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>>147360689
>(you)
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>>147361271
>lving in constructor chapel and grind together for days
>finally reach Fedimian
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>>147361271
>meet this alpha kinoboy when lving in constructor chapel and grind together for days
I have bad news.

You're both retarded.
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>>147362038
Love is love!
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>>147361561
Soon
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>>147362219
>loving someone who has no basic grasp on how to progress in this video game
>loving someone who takes more than a day to reach fedimian on a new character
Oh, so you just have shit taste.
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>>147361316
I'm not horribly, terribly worried about it.
Guessing only this 90 dungeon drops it though, right?
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>>147362731
Yes
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>>147351895
RAPE

>>147351285
DOLL RAPE
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>>147347532
End of july.
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>>147361271
Boys can't live boys...
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>>147353972
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c1f.1a213a435561.1f213f415a6191a1.152545.153541

This is a valid build.

You lose out on some strong support in favor of having more damage but you are still perfectly capable of keeping a group alive as long as you are basically full spirit.

Mass heal is a top up. Maxing it is worthless.

Revive is fantastic if you're going into pvp but to me it looks like you wanna be a buff bot, mana battery and be able to solo fine as well. So max revive is not nesissary.

Stone skin only adds about 80 spirit worth of block to stone skin a point. More points only do that. Not duration, not amount of blocks. Just block. Yes its insanely good, no its not 100% nesissary.

Ressurection doesnt really need to be maxed. The only reason you max it is for the knockback in pvp or to try and zerg it through before that retarded party mate that just died releases. They will release anyway. Why waste 4 points you dont need to spend?
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>>147363000
Fuck.
Oh well, at least I'm 100 now, which means I can access missions now, right? How do I do that?
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>>147362653
World boss soon!
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More porn of /tosg/ people when?
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>>147364170
When you start namedropping them
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>>147364170
Those huge oreolas. Hnnnngg
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>>147364254
STOP THIS
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>>147364254
Thank god I barely ever get name dropped here.
>>
total nooob here. At what level do I get to upgrade my class?
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>>147364287
>oreolas
I'd put some creme into that sandwich cookie if you know what I'm saying
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>>147364170
>>147364254
>namedropped constantly despite asking people not to
>still immune to this new tosg porn meme because I play a boy/barrel
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>>147364475
every 15 class level
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>>147364254
and then faggotry and erposting die for this

THE END thanks to god
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>>147364032
King's Plateau portal (mid top) to Escanciu Village go right to Fedimian Suburb's portal and then left to Fediman's portal and left to Mercenary post queue for the first one
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>>147363998
Thank you!
This really looks nice!
I always had the same doubt of the Skills, Resurrect, Revive and max Heal.
To max them or not, but you just clear them! Thanks!!
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>>147364254
>>147364342
Lolipan
Patsch
Hat
Lalac(ow)
Evergarden
Mimi
Capyba
le wegushi fixes when man
Auckes
Moonie
Cattly(female)
Youko
Mia
Mia
Mia
Mia
Mia
Mia
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>>147365076
Forgot to add, that I'm currently going 7:3 SPR:CON
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>>147364254
>no one's name dropped me all thread
Time to start leaking those emergency erp logs
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>>147365217
Thats perfectly fine. Might wanna cap con at 60 or 80 depending on how often you get hit
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???
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>>147361114
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>>147364701
I'm going to make mspaint lewds of Rance and cows!
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>>147364701
Rance you have your own series of porn games anyway
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>>147365498
Something lewd seems to be happening on your map.
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>>147364701
>>147364170

>doesn't know I constantly make AA2 characters based on /tosg/ personalties regardless if its a boy or a girl
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>>147361114

QS3 SR2, rank5 can be literally anything you want.
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>>147365693
Bad!
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>>147364170
>>147365109
Anons please..
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>>147364170
is that mia or moonie ?
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>>147365914
Stop this. Also if you have a barrel card on AA2 I am fucking impressed.

Lolipan and I were talking about AA2 a few days ago in guild chat. That better not be you.

>>147365631
Helman Revolution translation pls.

>>147365597
For what purpose. As much as I like cows, nobody wants to see that.
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>>147366452
pretty sure it's just a generic warlock
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>>147366570
nah
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>>147366452
That's mia after a few mc'dee's
>>
>what's the point of these NGO squires doing repair literally for free?
>"Repairing at no cost, give likes!"
>524 likes

Oh.
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>Everyone suddenly decided to stop bullying Oracles
>They now suck their dicks
Never change, /tosg/
>>
>Talt
>Talt
>Talt
Oh well.

>>147364890
Oh cool, I'm already close by.
Is that whole list level 100 stuff?
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>>147365109
>>147364254
>>147364170
>no refs
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>>147366872

Oracle C3 can change genders. Let's try not to piss off literal gods here.
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>>147366378
>>
>>147366958
>Talt
>Talt
>Talt
>Oh well.
Get used to this.
>>
Looking to buy a temple shooter on Klaipeda
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>>147366570
its classic tosg art from march

>>147367004
ehh not cute. not funny.
>>
Post-cute used to be the best genre until Avant-Lewdbop came around
>>
>>147365109
>Mia
I think I just did a dungeon with that person
>>
>>147365983
First time hearing about this being good for farming. Isn't QS supposed to be full STR? For a farming build fells like low dex will make me get hit a lot.
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>>147366872
>They now suck their dicks
Oracles can literally grow a dick on you and then suck it
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Double bleeding + coquille + preparation is fun
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>>147367752
Maybe.
The 90?
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>>147368050
Yep.
I was the diev. I have no idea if I do any good at this crap or not.
>>
>lv150
>auto dg mission
>wait for 1hr
>still no party
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>>147368359
>there's no level 150 dungeon
that was your mistake. make sure you queue into something that exists
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>>147365474
Will do, Thank you
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>>147368712
Dungeon Mission and Dungeon are different.
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>>147367897
>10 seconds to do 27k damage
>meanwhile an elememe can kill him in 6 seconds
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From time to time my game simply stops working, and so does the official site. I can't play dungeons/missions properly anymore because I always end up dcing in the middle of the thing.
Also, it isn't my internet's fault since everything else works fine. Anyone else having this issue?
>>
>>147369320
>98k Health
>6 seconds
You meant 1.
>>
>>147367897
Is Fencer fun?

I've been thinking about making a swordsman
>>
>>147369490
Try running Steam as administrator and verifying the game cache if you haven't already.
I get connection/login issues every couple of patches or so and that usually fixes it.
>>
>>147369490
everyone is having this issue
>>
>>147369949
Already did, thanks though.

>>147370027
I doubt it, all my guildies are being able to play the game just fine.
>>
>>147369879
It's the most fun swordsman class. Just don't expect to make things explode like Warlock.
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>>147370330
>doesn't have Deeds
>most fun
I find thaqt hard to believe
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We got the hamster!
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>>147370330
>most fun Swordie
>not Catac3
>going slow
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>>147370730
Grats!
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>>147369320

I challenge ANY elememe here to kill this bunny in 6 second with frost cloud!

Anyway, just memeing with my double bleed, I can 3shot this bunnies since their armor type is leather.

>>147369879

Yes. They are also very flexible in terms of building, you can mix with barbarian, highlander, corsair, peltasta/rodelero and etc...
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>>147370737
>most fun
>catacatacata
>no clones
sasuga...
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>>147370730
Gj, now go suck eachother
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>>147370730
>Futurecuck
>no pvp
>no world bosses
>no hamsters
>only ERP
J U S T
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>>147346160
gustavom
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>>147371065
B-but guild battle league
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>>147368339
I guess you did fine. But i was busy telling the QS to turn off SwiftStep attribute.

Third run today was ...interesting.
They crashed/left at lower area, so the qt cryo and me had to duo most of it.
A bug at last boss. Cryo left and i had to solo it.
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>>147371345
>guild battle league
more like guild spread your buttcheeks for Atom league
>>
>>147370876
>most fun
>incoming Sword3Shinobi rerolls
>no Make-it-rain all night with jolly roger
>no mad numbers with hexen dropper/dwa

mite be cool
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>>147371065
>futurecuck
>all hustle
>all buzz
>all $$$
necro life
>>
>>147370730
Yay! Congratulations!
Sorry for not helping, my game hates me ;-;
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>>147371474
Please invite me to your bee mafia
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>>147371480
Next time!
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>>147370730
>mfw I'm not in the picture because I keep entering the teleporter like an idiot.

Being the worthless Squire is suffering.
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>>147371474
Does Evergarden actually play her necro or is it all for farming?

Will Rance ever catch up?

NecroProof when?
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>>147371682
No, your guildmaster is just a selfish faggot. Not waiting for all members before taking a pic. For all you know, you're just an npc to him to repair your gears.
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>>147371578
if you kiss this crowns ring then there's no backing out. working together and joining my crew is different
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>>147371804
I just farm on my Necro, Dvine says I'm impure, feelsbadman
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>>147372148
What are you going to play when/if there's GVG battles again?
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>>147372306
My Bokor PD I guess, we need as much bloodletting as we can get
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>>147345837
Zealot needs a Jihad ability.

I want to suicide bomb my enemies with brainwashed converts.
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>>147371364
At least he listened after a bit instead of being one of those "don't tell me how to play" types.
>26 unused skill points
For what purpose?
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>>147371474
At least that is the only skill you need to attribute.
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>>147372628
>Elememe
>Needing anything besides Quick Cast, Surespell and Frost Cloud
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>>147372628
That's how the pros play!
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>>147372628
Yea, that >Boy was alright.

>For what purpose?
Saving a few for C2/3 and im not sure on what i spend some. Doing ok with what i got for now.
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>>147372917
Tehehe
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>>147372848
>raised electroCUTE
>raised hail
>RAISED METEOR
You DESERVE to be broke, my friend.
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>>147373251
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So is there a specific one of these that are easiest to get a run off of? Or does it not matter?

>>147373251
>118 unused stat points
This is triggering me.
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>>147373465
Siauliai because absolutely no one I mean zero people do the others. Why? Because IMCompetent didn't set different rewards for each one, so there's literally no point.

Of course they fixed this in kTOS.
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>>147373000
Why are you making another elememe, Mia?
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>>147373807
>another
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>>147372848
>only attribute
when they decide to fix our pet attributes then necromancer will be a 5 80 or 400 million attribute class not counting what we'll get in rank 8.
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>>147373912
Uh? I thought your main was an ele3>warlock.
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>>147373807
>wear cat ears
m-mia?
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>>147372848
At least those are the only skills you need to attribute.
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>>147374089
No. my first Wiz is PyroLink

>>147374092
No cat ears for a few days
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>>147374346
So how much did you have to RMT to get MA to 98?
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>>147374346

Jesus fucking crysis
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>>147374346
>RMT
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>>147374395
>No cat ears for a few days
Smart girl
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>>147374346
>>147374831
0 he's mafia.

Please come play with us again.
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>>147374831
You don't need to at all, starting at lv 50 attribute you get 1 karacha a day, some sissels and maybe 1 glad band every other day. Other people just spend their mafia money on useless things like dumbbells instead of attributes.
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>>147374831
he has been farming wb for 3 months. he wouldn't be world boss mafia if he couldn't afford that. if you played itos/ktos and can't make 100 million since you started playing then you haven't been living properly
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>>147373576
Ah, does anything good drop from these cubes? Cause I got some shitty thing of meat and it didn't feel worth the effort.
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I heard we were posting how many stat points we have unspent.
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>>147375062
>>147375121
>>147375181
There's a /tosg/ fletcher in the mafia? This is news to me.
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>>147375437
How do you have so much HP?
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>>147375636
Mounting gives a percentage of the pet's HP, and headgears, probably.
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>>147375437
>A chronomancer as a party member
This has to be Hat.
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>>147375121
>>147375181
Really? All I do is waste money on rerolls, wish I had your kind of luck. At least next patch they will be worth something right?
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>>147361271
How can you be this beta
my game crush will never leave me behind
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>>147374346
What are your stat allocations?
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>>147375746
i'm not world boss mafia. i don't do cube rerolls either cause i've made 4m from them and spent at least 1m total on rerolls. there's just a crazy amount of ways to make money if you played ktos/icbt. you need to step up your hustle
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>>147375550
Mafia is just a label to intimidate people into not showing up to bosses, it's a lot of separate groups and some of them don't even interact with each other. As long as you're good and maybe have a pocket thauma/chrono you should be able to get at least dullahan cubes. The linker 3 thing is a meme that most parties don't even use and isn't that good. It's another intimidation tactic that fools people into not showing up due to fear of not being qualified.

The rest of bosses don't even need that much DPS, it's about being the closest one to the spawn or being able to get there faster than the other DPS. You're only fucked if you don't have enough friends with acceptable DPS to camp most spawn points.
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>>147376270
I think she was wondering more along the lines of, who among her mafia is you (that fletcher)
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>Already feeling the desire to roll something else
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>>147375305
Mystery Cubes drop everything
BBut that means most of it is junk
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>>147376270
>not using griefing tactics to stop others to increase your profits
the bee mafia is real. ask the victims.
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>>147374395
I was just saying that if anyone wears cat ears they automatically get called mia
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>>147376270
>Mafia is just a label to intimidate people into not showing up to bosses, it's a lot of separate groups and some of them don't even interact with each other

Except for the part where they intentionally group up together so there's absolutely no way anyone else gets a cube, even though it doesn't affect THEIR chances of getting one.
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>>147375739
Yeah hat and his bitch moesaki
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>>147376270
>The linker 3 thing is a meme
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How do I spend my money as elememe/lock? Frost Cloud to 50, then Max Peta? Then... Venom?
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>>147376502
You can't anymore.

There's literally a Starting-a-new-character mafia, now. I guess they want nobody new to want to start playing, ever.

Just head on over to Constructors Chapel if you wanna see a good example of that shit in action. Warlocks are DICKS.
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>>147376797
Weren't they going to make it top party dps instead? Or was I dreaming about that
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>>147376958
Venom first, I'll sell you one on klai right now
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>>147377027
How it works is:

Top 6 damage done and their full parties.
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>>147367897
>Guardian active
Why
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>>147376441
Being a buff bot can be helpful, even if just monstrance/divine might. Druids can even hold their own as DPS.

With the ktos blessing buff I can see priest 3 krivis kabbalists being very desirable in boss parties and not just for the BIG FAT KABBALIST TATS

>>147376797
People group up with their friends, it can't be helped. I know some people at least try to let randoms join when they have room or switch parties around to help lonely souls that show up.
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>>147376985
What? But you can skip that area fairly easily?
I've barely hit 100 on my highest leveled character, I'm tired of these low level areas but I also keep wanting to try new things.
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>>147376270
DELETE THIS!

Who do you go with now R*****? We have cute Chronos to eat popcorn with if you want to come back. I'll make sure that fucker doesn't break your eardrums every time he gets a rare drop too.
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>>147377186
not him, but in the case theres 6 full parties and the top DPS happen to be 1 from each party, the boss would drop 30 cubes?
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>>147377474
Yes. Theoretically, 30 cubes is max.
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Which guild should I join to be a lewd ERPing degenerate?
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>>147377576
CuteNotLewd
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>>147377576
you already know the answer anon

FOE the fuck with skeletons
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>>147377284
I thought people wanted me for my support and healing...
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>>147377576
TakeItEasy is our resident ERP degeneracy guild.

CuteNotLewd is pretty fucking bad too, so if you can't get in TIE for some reason, that's your best bet.
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>>147377681
>>147377736
>>147377808
Conflicting answers, and I still need to find a cute leveling partner to drag around and toy with!
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>>147377760
I want you for what you are!
Though that SP fill sure helps too.
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>>147377915
who*
Eh I screwed it up...
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How do I join F.O.E?
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>>147378040
>join FOE
LMAO
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>>147377424
Taking a break until a few people catch up to grind party level. Will be back to eating popcorn soon after!
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>>147378040
Just go on discord
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>>147378040
go back in time when join it while it was alive. rip wind god and discord.
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>>147377760
>support and healing
is very nice
and ofc BIG FAT
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>>147378040

hit up jinbae for some hot steamy ERP
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>>147376958
Frost forever
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>>147377760
This is also a kind of support!
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>>147377835
>leveling partner
I got bad news for you anon
Unless you enjoy getting your character stuck every time there's a cutscene.
Honestly I wouldn't even bother with this game, not until they fix a lot of stuff, which is probably never.
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>>147377186
I know it works like that now. What I was saying was weren't they going to change it to being the top x amount highest total party dps?
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>>147378913
Think thats how it is in ktos.

You know the drill
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41333..1121354f61

What should I take for Krivis?

I have no idea how Aukuras/Stigma/Zalciai are, or how useful they are, so I don't really know what to get.

I'm going Krivis3>Druid is that changes anything.
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>>147379023
IMCucked again
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>>147378913
That would make it even worse, why would you take a support/tank ever when you can just take another dps?
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>>147376958
>Max Peta
Why not Animus?
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>>147379220
>animus on non-support wizards meme again
NICE!
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What weapon should I use for ranger lvl 50 ?
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>>147379283
It has more magic attack than max peta, if you are one of those full int muh DPS elememes I don't see why you wouldn't go for it.
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>>147379283
I'm asking why you retard.
Animus is more damage than Max Peta even with 0 con.
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>>147379205
How so? How is a support or tank relevant now? Supports can help a lot to someones dps.

Also

>tanks
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>>147379283
I'd take my 93 magic amp and 33 magic attack over 14 int and 14 con.
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>>147379389
>>147379374
>I don't know what Magic Amplification is!
(You)
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So what wizard build is the funnest?
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>>147379645
Unless you're Wiz3 with no other circles taken that's inefficient, anon. The 14 INT adds more.
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>>147379663
>not knowing that Animus gives 33 flat M.Attack
>thinking M.Amp is that bad
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How do I join Futureproof?
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>>147379779
>thinking item give stats scale with the circles bonus
Retard.
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>>147379934
Talk to Lolipan to get on the waiting list.
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>>147379663
Uhmmm you do know that it gives 33 magic attack with no strings attached right? Just making sure.
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>>147380025
Disregard shitposters. It was proven like 3 days ago that Petamion offers more in the thread so anyone still trying to state it doesn't is just trying to start a fight.
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>>147380025
My hat gives more, without making me a pot gurgling slut :^)
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>>147380124
>It was proven like 3 days ago that Petamion offers more in the thread
More what? surely not damage.
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>>147377268

I need guardian to survive (using less potions) monsters 8 levels higher than me!
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This is the real mastermind behind the Necro bee mafia.

>give your students the tools to farm millions of silver
>still have them dependable on corpses from her shop
>don't teach them ANY good skills to collect corpses
>*rubbing hands intensifies*

Thanks Necromancer master, you're my greatest ally
I'll be rank7 soon to buy more corpses
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>>147379603
Its just that right now one Fletcher and one Chrono can carry 3 freeloaders who's only purpose is to scout the map. If everyone in the party is expected to have to contribute DPS whether its from themselves or from buffing others it will make cubing even more cut-throat than it is now. This was meant to be a cute carebear game, the so-called "mafia" are actually nice people that actually invite party-less people if they have spare slots.
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>>147379934
Be a cuck first.
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>>147380446
>not using the DEF meme
Well, if you guys like having a hard time, be my guest.
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>>147380514
Literally pimping you out.
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>>147380712

But i'm using the def meme, anon. ~800 def with shield, main concern is as a fencer, I lost a significant amount of DPS by using a shield because of the Rapier Mastery: Aggression and the dagger, 168 elemental damage + 29 crit rate is still something to consider.


Fact is, I prefer my extra evasion and dagger than gung ho when fighting stronger stuff, is the best for my farm/dps
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Did you get what you wanted today /tosg/?
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>>147381003
I still don't have a manamana or sissel
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>>147380514
those corpse pots 100% kosher.
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>>147381003
Yes.
I get what I want each day my special someone logs in.
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>>147380548
Better system in my opinion. That way the cubes can't be monopolised by a few certain memes and party play is more rewarded.
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>>147381296
Last online: 37 days ago
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>>147381003
I got to lvl 261, so yes
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>>147381003
>12 more cubes
>0 petra
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>>147381003

I managed to open a temple shooter cube and not get a single card
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>>147379140
Notice me senpaitachi!
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>>147381003
No, I used all my luck two days ago.
>>
Killing a certain nun of monsters and then talking to the archvment lady only gives exp cards ?
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>>147382584
Yes. Which is why people don't intentionally doing it.
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>>147382584
Yes.
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>>147382584
yes. not really worth it. and not necessary.

explore a map to 100% and she gives 3 cards. that is pretty good and often fast.
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With cleric2priest3krivis1pd, what am I putting points into on priest? Should I take only 1 point in sacrament because it's just for the line of damage? Max aspersion, max blessing (and pray we get ktos spr scaling on it), and 1 point in monstrance? Or is this wrong? I know where the rest of my points should go but I'm confused what the best allocation for these skills is.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10659569
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What should I go for at r7 as a wiz3>link3?

Also I saw a snowflake wiz>pyro>link2>somethingsomething>featherfoot literally cucking a full group at truffles the other day.
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>>147382871
you're the one playing the character so you better decide yourself.

>do i drink a coke or pepsi?
drink what you want
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>>147382871
>kino2 necro2
>afk farming
he fell for the dvine meme
there's a reason everyone else takes sorc1 anon
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>>147382860
Why not kabbalist? cleric 2 priest 3 krivis 1 looks like a really good base for a 280 boss support, kabbalist for the mana soup seems like it would make more sense specially on rexipher due to the SP drain.

You do want 1 point on monstrance. Sacrament is good for the extra line, but since it only affects AA that extra line is mostly useful to support QS3. The extra holy damage unrelated to the extra line however is nice when you get to support tryhard tier fletchers that want to choke on every point of damage you can give them.
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>>147383139
Sorc 1 afkers are auto potting cheaters and should be mass banned to set an example.
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>>147382860
15 Bless, 10 Mass Heal, 10 Revive, 5 Resurrection, 2 Stone Skin and 1 point on everything but Exorcise.
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>>147383139
DELETE THIS
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Anyone knows where to get this collection:
http://www.tosbase.com/database/collections/109/
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>>147383294
I think 5 stone skin will be important if you want to do support in guild battles, Spr scaling is going to be literally 1/8 of what it is now while revive's immunity is cut down significantly in PvP, assuming we're getting the same balance as Ktos.

Speaking of, can you use Pardoner buffs/skill scrolls in guild battles?
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>>147383002
>Also I saw a snowflake wiz>pyro>link2>somethingsomething>featherfoot literally cucking a full group at truffles the other d

This is my build. But I took Wiz>Pyro3>Link2>Featherfoot, it's basically the ultimate solo build. Just drop your dot aoes, link monsters and bloodbath then, almost impossible to die.

While I'm in a /tosg/ guild and everybody there likes it(for farming/grinding at least), everybody here hates it, so yeah, look into it before taking the path.
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>>147383139
you need to come kiss my ring and get my blessing to be ready for kino2/necro2. death will visit those who break the families rules
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>>147383139
I wanted to try Kino since I already had experience with Elememe, Linker, Sorc, and Necro from the earlier betas. Kino's fun for me too, but just because someone did it in official release it doesn't mean they patented the build.
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>>147383556
isnt that arena only?
>>
Well, Silute is completely fucked. Never falling for the latency meme again.
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>>147383148
I honestly don't understand Kabbalist's skills from their descriptions and I thought PD had a cuter outfit, but I'll look into Kabbalist in the meantime since I'm only rank5 at the moment.
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>>147383603
>only me with my build on the entire server until i started killing 6 people at a time in gvg
>i t-tried the w-wizard class in b-beta
>no talk of it anywhere using search on reddit or forum
sure thing. this is mine build
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>>147383556
If you're making a pvp priest and you think the extra 240 block will help you that much in arena then just take 3 points off Mass Heal or Revive and put it in Stone Skin.
>>
I still think that kino 3 necro 1 is better overall at if you don't want to afk, but necro 2 is futureproof. necro 3 will be good!!
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>>147383850

Maybe in klaishit, wiz 3 necro 2 rolls rampant in silute since the beginning (orsha)
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>>147383819
It's mostly all about this skill and its attribute.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/41203/

Revenged sevenfold has good uses too.
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>>147383850
Fuck off back to
>>>/reddit/
>>>/Atom/
>>>/out/
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>>147383819
Look at this link. The only relevant skills right now are Ein Sof, Revenged Sevenfold and Reduce Level (really strong against some bosses since it reduces their stats which acts as direct HP removal)

>>147354660
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>>147383576
Well i have an elememe (and cannon) already so just tossing up between either that or a wiz3>link>sorc>necro2. Ive got a diev on the side that'll go druid too.
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>>147383720
I'm pretty sure arena skill changes also apply to guild battles as stone skin is almost impossible for most archer characters to hit through. I could be wrong.
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>>147383997
klaip existed before your server and orsha was a shithole for br and still didn't have anybody with my build either. wiz3/necro2 isn't kino2necro2. no need to be embarrassed there's always a first
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>>147383593
>kiss my ring
l-lewd...
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>>147383240
You're acting like necro 2s aren't botters for resummoning skeletons.
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>>147384740
necro don't need to resummon anything except cause ts autopot users come and camp on them and their broken summon is way stronger than ours.
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>>147384434
Stone Skin is garbage in Arena. What makes you think 400 block would be enough when you can still hit through people with 2k block outside Arena?
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>there's a /tosg/ jani

Like this place couldn't get autistic enough.
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>>147384917
enjoy your 3days
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>>147384917
Yeah, and they're prob from some meme guild in the game, because they never delete the shitposting drama, but delete other useful things that trueinfo agents try to spread.
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>>147385138
Lalacow getting milked
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>>147385138
Rance and Lalacow
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>>147384882
Maybe so but it's still going to block hits here and there and damage mitigation is damage mitigation.

Also bull fucking shit on consistently hitting through 2k block, maybe vs. players with a level disadvantage but for an equal leveled player you need 2x glass bracelets+last rites and revive attribute+block pen weapon to even have a chance.
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>>147385138
Lopa X Atom
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>>147385138
Porn of the next person to be namedropped after this post.

It better be vanilla.
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>>147384832
Skeletons die way too fast to be able to go without resummon.
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>>147385138
lolipan x atom
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>>147385245
that isnt lalacow
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>>147385332
i don't need skeletons to kill bees at all. our necro group would clear it entirely without anybody bothering to resummon skeletons all night. they're there cause ts autopot people will come and sit on me if they think i won't break their knees and kick them out of the channel with no profit.
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>>147385254
Don't give advice on a class you don't even play.
>>
what's the cutest hat for a female plague doctor?
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>>147384467
But the build you're quoting is a Wiz3Kino2
Different playstyles for different players, no need to boast your auto-pot farming build.
>>
WHAT WAS THIS POST >>147385138
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>>147386087
namedrop request
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>>147385332
Skellies are getting HP buff.
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>>147385849
Mirtis Helmit
>>
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>>147385541
FUCK OFF JACE LOVER
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So the bots change channel whenever it sees world boss? That's neat.
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>>147385859
>the wiz3/kino2
the popular wiz3/kino2 skipping gravity pole and raise. it's very common and widely used.

the only other player i saw with this was an alchemist. i'm done with this level of revisionism cause it's really stupid. unlike you people who play other random class i actively tried to get into contact with all the necromancer on my server. my wiz3/kino2/necro2 is unique to me and you having a dream or playing with tosbase calculator for 10 seconds isn't making the character before it was proven
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>>147386343
Some of the high level ones at Vedas also seem to change channel if a player's in their line of sight for too long, it's funny behavior.
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>merging of repositories at end of July
>rampant exploiting bugs in new ways (Resetting OH channel hopping raredrop Panto farming and God knows what else)
>game full to the brim with bots so old they're growing mushrooms
>discord no longer for fun, info and camaraderie, only a shitfest circlejerk of mental retardation with cancer that never sleeps
>your ToS crush quit two months ago
>RetardPantsu is still around and trying his hand at your build now

If you were to ask me last year, I would've never believe it'd end like this.
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>>147386364
Who is this I'm talking to? dvine?
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>>147386662
Nice blog post, upvoted and subscribed.
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>>147386662
Just fuck off and die already.
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>>147386662
>merging of repositories at end of July
Bit late for that, isn't it?
Kind of blows my mind that it took them THIS LONG to realize players might not like playing a version of the game half a year behind the other.
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>>147386556
Some don't even change channel and just hit world boss.
Pretty hilarious to see them walk into AoE and die just like that.
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>>147386893
there's no second person who got into contact with the necromancer of klaip and plays kino2/necro2
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>>147387145
Is this you too?
>>147383850
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>>147387085
Do you think they'll also realize most players want to have fun in their game and not have to juggle with RMT prevention measures to do anything? Seriously, a friend just left because shit he bought turned untradeable. The fact that the game sets itself so high they can just shit on the player 24/7 is kinda contradictory since the game is a fucking f2p shitty mmo in a sea of f2p shitty mmos.
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>>147387259
is this you
>>147387259
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>>147385245
WHY. Why me? I don't get it.

I don't do cute poses, don't blog, I've never ERPed with anyone on here, I'm not especially good at the video game. Why. And the cow I hang out with isn't Lalacow, she's a literal who. There's so much wrong with this.

>>147386364
>>147385859
>>147384467
For what it's worth I'm 100% copycunting dvine's build and just running a CON-heavy version. It's effective, I like what I've seen of it in action, and wanted a wizard.
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>dvine's a redditor and too shy to confess
No need to be embarrassed, we'll just tell you to fuck off and stay there.
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>>147387785
makoto is the cutest non-cinderella im@s
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mfw i want to buy a manamana but i get this horrible feeling that it will drop in the 200 dungeon the second i rush it
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>>147388079
cute boy!
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>>147387676
as long as you aren't lolipan then i'll give you necromancer tips. it's just annoying to have somebody tell me they dreamed it in beta and roll it 3 months late cause it's common. the potential of kino2/necro2 can't even be seen yet so there's no way you understand it.

>>147387785
i didn't play the beta or ktos. i naturally search information on skills and even then it was mostly all wrong in every way.
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>>147388223
Yeah, was just saying, like, I haven't seen anyone else really running that build, and the only reason I am is because I watched you wreck shit with it. And because you hadn't come back yet when I made it.
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What am I supposed to roll for an Alchemist?
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>>147388223
kino2 is garbage link2 is better
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>>147388395
Pyro2Link2
Pyro1Link2Thauma1
Pyro2Link1Thauma1
Costume build

Up to you, really.
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How do i rush 217/240 dungeons?
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When's the next chapter in the Koenig doujin
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>>147388523
Well there's a meetup tomorrow so probably then.
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>>147388434
killing a link2 necro is easier than strangling a baby for me
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does plague doctor even exist. didnt even saw one
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>>147388685
Yeah just call in for a dental appointment and you'll see one in a week.
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>>147386087
>who should the artfag draw next
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>>147386662
In other words....nothing changed?
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>>147382248
>>147379140

I need help!
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How do I rush the 217 and 240 dungeons?
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>>147388914
Wasn't the same artfag tho.
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>>147389092
You move very quickly
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>>147388093
>Wanting a low potential slut-gun
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>/tosg/ has active drawfags again
CAUTIOUSLY EXCITED
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>>147389134
This guy.
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>>147389234
lolipan x atom doujin when ?
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>>147389234
They are on discord :)
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Have you guys finished what you planned for this weekend?
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>>147389456
EXCITEMENT GONE IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED
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>>147389505
>carding through alemeth
>avoiding the most chill, easy and efficient grind in the entire world
retards
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>Future_Hendrix
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>>147389505
i didnt hang myself so, no, maybe next one.
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>>147389557
I don't use discord.

>>147389389
We'll probably get there but not soon.
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>>147389505
thats a lot of cards
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>>147389125
Who cares?
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>>147380514
>Frequents bee farm
>Doesn't use disinter to gather like 60 corpses a wave
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>>147389505
My plan was to find a class I have a ton of fun with.
Instead I find stuff that's fun, but doesn't have the impact I'm looking for.
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>>147389891
>farm 300 corpse in 9 minutes
>use 300 corpse 4 minutes
you goy will never stand
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>>147389684
Its all grinding after that point anyway. I'd prefer to r7 then grind once I get new flashy skills to flashily blow shit up
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>>147389505
>217 to 225
>not 270 to 280
Amateurs
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>>147390061
>use 300 corpse 4 minutes on bee farm
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>>147389505
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>>147390260
congratulations anon
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>>147390146
i run a bee empire so i don't leave bee farm 24/7 but there's only me who does that. people who play necromancer will use corpse doing stuff like leveling and killing monsters or killers.
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>>147389505
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>>147390260
What's the point of grinding further if you reach cla.ss 15? Wouldn't you lose potential exp and time if you grind when it's max?
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>>147390571
>playing mmos
>caring about loss of time
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>>147390571
Do more damage and take less damage against 280 bosses or ET enemies. Extra stat points that you don't have to wait 6 months to get.
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>>147390571
>What's the point of grinding further if you reach cla.ss 15?
5 base levels

>Wouldn't you lose potential exp and time if you grind when it's max?
Stop being a casual, leveling in this game is easy.
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>>147390431
delete this one
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>>147388223
Got done with a dungeon run, let's clear this shit up. I confused you with a link1sorc1necro propagating faggot because of this post >>147383139 which was already common in beta.

>didn't play beta
And that's why you're oblivious on how painful it was to level a Wiz3 during that time and people avoided it like the plague. If you were here before, /tosg/ already knew the potential of Necros and AFK farming was already practiced during that time. Bees were not spawning a fuck lot though, it was Gribaru things.

Still, I don't get why you're so obsessed with being the first Kino2Necro2 and acting all high and mighty, don't you want comrades?
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>>147391786
no, protag.
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Should I still be saving cards on 230+?
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Is sorc summon size based on card level or summon level?
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>>147392135
Yes.
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>>147392135
afaik it's a visual bug.
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>>147392094
Save to skip 247/8-252
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>>147392135
Summoning skill level.
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why are u on varena
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>>147392353
Damn I wanted to keep the summons small because they're cuter that way
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>>147392421
koenigga
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>>147391814
i leveled wiz2/kino2 until i hit rank 5 at 127 and picked up wiz3.

maybe i was projecting too much. i had another person tell me they dreamed of kino2/necro2 and it just ticked me off. somebody with a cookie cutter build play tested and proven spec telling me they dreamed my build after all the shit i had to go through testing it and seeing if i actually need to reroll or not really weighing the options.

then i kill them repeatedly and easily and it's "i thought that in beta btw xD".

i don't mind having a comrade playing this build at all. i can tell you secrets i won't tell the uninitiated. since i came back though and everybody is just making afk farm necromancer and not really joining my family so i'd rather not somebody making an afk farm necromancer with 20% attributes getting wrecked making kino2/necro2 seem weak.
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>>147392545
Wut? Do tell your secrets tho
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>>147392472
Yeah, lv1 Summoning and Riding looks really cute.
You need a skill reset for it though.
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>>147392659
not in this thread. that's for private whispers and party chat.
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>>147390101
>>147389684

The skeletons are worth it I think

Time to think of a good farmin setup now
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>>147392545
>a cookie cutter build play tested and proven spec
At least you didn't become labelled an Elememe and everybody and their mom rolled it afterwards.

I don't need the secrets, I just like necros ever since Diablo.
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Help me senpaitachi, how much is a ruby in silver?
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>>147392972
No more than 100k.
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>>147392421
Making a monk to slay the pinoys
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>>147392972
15-25 talt so 75-125k
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>>147392901
Didn't realize the Diev stripped socks
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>>147392901
>PDs need to wear pushup bras
Inferior to kabbatats in every way
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I'm not the only one right?
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>>147393493
What are you doing?
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>>147393493
Welcome to 1 month ago
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>>147392901
>those titties

muh dick
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For how frustrating it apparently is to level, is the cryo3/chrono3 build fun?
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>>147393587
I had just taken that screenshot. I still havent done anything with them, i'm not alone on this right?
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>>147393636

Once you go fast, you never go back.
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>>147393636
Low maintenance haste/passbot.
Go for it if you just like running around and CCing monsters and players.

As for me, I regret partying with a chrono, haste is addicting.
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>>147393493
>Not buying your potions from your local friendly Alchemist
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>>147393131
>>147393346
thanks.
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>>147393919
retard

>>147393690
imc added potions as quest rewards at like the beginning of june or something so everyone who had already done all the quests that now give potions as rewards got the ones they missed that way
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wiz 3 link sorc 3 or
cryo 1 link 2 sorc 3 or
cryo 3 sorc 3?
I can't decide, they all seem fun.
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>>147393636
Cafrisun set until you find monsters that hit hard then wear proper armor. Ice Pike and pardoner buffs will carry you up to 200+.
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>>147394059
>Sorc3
>Fun
Enjoy wasting days suffering just to end up rerolling when you find out how stupid and weak your summons are.
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>>147392773
ERP leaking slut on the left.
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>>147394260
>Sorc3
>not fun
Ignore this retard.

>>147394059
If you're curious about sorc 3, Karga is the one to talk to, as they not only play one but have taken it to 280.
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>>147393825
>>147393859
That sounds nice.
How would this be fixed to work? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888..152f3f7585.1f215a75
I'm guessing it's basically full con with some spr?

>>147394128
>Getting hit
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Jealous? Free 8442 Character exp and 6500 Class exp!
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>>147394332
Play a sorc3 first then you can talk.
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>>147394420
>ask this person for information about this class
>WOW DON'T LISTEN TO THIS PERSON LITERALLY REFERRING YOU TO SOMEONE ELSE
i hate this place
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>>147394456
Even Karga himself knows that Sorc3 is garbage and you're better off taking Warlock for r7. Kiss yourself retard
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>>147394260
>muh meta
Fuck off, not everyone wants to wank off to METAENDGEMU.
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I give up on trying to get a Templeshooter, got scammed 2 times already, and nobody in /tosg/ has one to sell, or they also want one


I'm just going to reroll a Elememe, or any other dumb class that needs minimal investment.
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>>147395086
Tell me your name anon
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>>147394260
>>147394585
I like the class and theme, I don't really care about being OP, I just want to know which build would be more entertaining to play, QC MM and bats, or link shit and let the TS kill everything or cryo tree and snowball fun.

Cryo 3 seems really fun but so does linking mobs.
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>>147395086
I can sell you a level 10 one if you're playing on Klai.

Just tell me where to meet up.
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>>147394996
No one is even talking about meta builds but okay. Go brag about being a special snowflake somewhere else you queer.
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What is the good build if your aiming for Oracle2?
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>>147395086
Always ask for card/trade first in your favor, there's always someone willing to go first, otherwise you could do half first half later.
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>>147394059
>>147395312
Are you into PvP/GvG? To the point where you're ok with being absolute 'meh' at PvE?
If so you can go Sorc3 from Wiz3Link (http://forge.gg/i/VmlkZW86ODQ1MTg1) or Cryo3, pick between damage or CC/zoning.
Cryolinker feels pretty weak as a build, I'd rate Pyrolinker over it and that one is mediocre.
Easy to level, but doesn't scale all that well.

If not, go Sorc2Warlock instead, it's a more solid and well-rounded choice than Sorc3.
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>>147395356
>ask about which 1 of the 3 builds would be fun
>DON'T PLAY SORC HURRRRRRRRRR
You're the queer here. If you're not going to answer seriously then why bother posting? You never even answered the question.
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>>147395372
Cleric 2 Dievderbys 3 Oracle 2.
Cleric 2 Bokor 3 Oracle 2
Chaplain Oracle 2.
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>>147395086
talk with world boss mafia and pay extra for a safe trade

the money you lost getting scam could've easily paid for the difference. try and find a credible person and not some low level shit player. these people don't want their name smeared cause they're scamming a ts from somebody.
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>>147395086
I have a couple left, drop a name/location if you're (or anyone else) still interested.
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>>147394405
Anyone? I found this build in the OP, but I'm unsure how good it is to follow: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888.11233551.2f5a7585.1f21315a75
And I have no idea how to stat this.
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>>147395312
>I just want to know which build would be more entertaining to play
It's not about being good or bad, it's about how irritating the Sorc class is. You forfeit your sp regen, your summon will be retarded until Sorc2 when you get Hold and Riding. The only viable summon is TS because of it's double attack, even then it's skills you can access with Riding have very long cooldowns. Summon Familiar, while good for multihit has a very long cooldown of 35 seconds and not only that, it's not even AoE. Summon Servant is great but the time it takes to apply all 5 buffs is fucking terrible. Sorc3 gives you NOTHING worth while other than the novelty of increasing the size of your summons.

>>147395539
Fun is subjective, play a sorc3 first then comment on it. You'll never make one though because you're too busy shitposting here in tosg.
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>>147395443
I want to do everything, but I don't have to be OP in either, I just want to enjoy both even if it's mediocre. So yes.

I want to be riding around on my summon most of the time so cryo 3 would be more suited towards that? I read they change it so you can use summoning skills while riding so it's only summoning skills like bats, cat and salami, or do they mean all summoner skills? Their engrish can be kinda vague at times.
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>>147394405
full CON isn't a necessity but go for it if you want, the skills are fine.
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>>147396016
>the skills are fine
You didn't even open it, did you?
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>>147396129
I did, what do you consider a mistake in that build?
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>>147396203
I'd say there's about 14 points distributed poorly in Chronomancer.
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>>147395971
Buddy, you're the one shitposting me now. I asked a question which you not only refuse to answer, you outright tell me just not to play the class.

I'm going sorc 3 regardless of all the problems, I just want to know which build is more suitable for what style.

This is the kind of post I'm looking for >>147395443
If you're done shitposting maybe you can learn how to answer my question properly or just not answer at all if you're not going to be helpful.
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Is there a list of the questioned that give you stats?
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Is this a nice PriestC3>Chap build?
Having in mind the upcoming Bless buff and that Stone Skin will be useless later as most parties will have a chrono.
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Does any know how teleport works with summons?
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>>147396262
>how to chrono
- max Pass, Haste, and Quicken (save points between circles, order of importance is Pass>Haste>>>Quicken)
- put 1 point in Reincarnate, Stop and Backmasking
- rest in Slow

congratulaions, now you have a good buildâ„¢
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>>147396552
you teleport and go to another location
they stay where they are
they run towards you at the place you teleport
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Odds: Girl Alchemist, Boy Wizard
Evens: Boy Alchemist, Girl Wizard
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Cleric2 -> Diev3 -> X

What is X that is not Druid2 or Druid1PD1?
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>>147396279
>I asked a question which you not only refuse to answer, you outright tell me just not to play the class
Quote me where I said "don't play sorc". It doesn't matter to me whether you go sorc 3 full SPR or not, that's your character. Gave you my 2 cents about sorc 3 being a mistake and you have to go all anal about it being a great class. You're just going to end up as one of those shitters who keep rerolling alts because they keep trying out stupid builds with no goal and commitment.
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>>147396778
Priest 1 Tats 1 so you can get to Floor 40 of ET.
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>>147396203
A vast majority of the points weren't even used.

>>147396661
So like this? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888.1123354551.112f395a7585.1f21314c5a6175

>>147396778
Oracle2?
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>>147396313
>Stone Skin will be useless later as most parties will have a chrono
Great build man, 10/10. Have fun in the game xD !
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>>147396313
>Stone Skin will be useless later as most parties will have a chrono.
what did he meme by this
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>>147395985
The summoning skills while Riding is a kToS change, but yeah it sounds like you won't be able to use skills other than Bats/Cat/Sala.
Having all your skills available would be really great, I'd consider staying in Riding more if that were the case.

You actually lose DPS by riding your summon all the time, and a ton of SP.
You also take all damage the summon would when Riding, so you'll be a huge target.
The best way to use Riding is to hop on, use TS' 2nd skill (rapidfire), then hop off as soon as the animation starts.
If you're really set on Riding for long periods of time, yeah Cryo3 would be better due to longer CDs.
Just keep in mind that using your spells alongside your summon is safer, cheaper on SP, and is better output.

Oh, and unfortunately TS' skills don't proc shards from Ice Wall, we tested.
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>>147396313
>Stone Skin will be useless later as most parties will have a chrono
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>>147396815
>Quote me where I said "don't play sorc".
>>147394260
How is this not "don't play sorc"?

You didn't give me 2 cents about sorc 3, you just told me not to play it cause it's shit.

>you have to go all anal about it being a great class
I never even said this, what the fuck are you reading?

>You're just going to end up as one of those shitters who keep rerolling alts because they keep trying out stupid builds with no goal and commitment.
Stop projecting. If I had no goal and commitment I wouldn't be asking about it now would I?

Stop being a faggot shitposter and fuck off if you got nothing constructive to say.
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>>147396958
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888.1123354551.112f395a7585.1f21314c5a6175
Subzero Shield got nerfed, max Icewall instead. Reflect Shield is trash right now, but you can put 1 point in it for futureproofing if you want.
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>>147396980
>xD
>>/Reddit/
kys faggot
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>>147397225
>Stop projecting.
Already 280 with multiple other r7s, try again.

>How is this not "don't play sorc"?
Because it literally isn't. Are you stupid?

>Stop being a faggot shitposter and fuck off if you got nothing constructive to say.
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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>>147397160
>>147397049
>>147396980
I think he meant that he didn't maxed stoneskin because most ppl do it for the "muh 100% uptime"
You obviously didn't get bcz you don't even play the game
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>>147397076
That's a pity, I thought riding around on the summon was pretty cool. Looks like I'll roll either wiz3link or cyro3 when I decide between dmg or CC, thanks for the insight.
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>>147397538
Stone Skin duration doesn't scale with skill level. You're the one who doesn't even play the game retard.
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>>147397260
>Reflect Shield is trash right now
Only other place I could see to put those points is EQ though.
This work better then? https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21333888.1123354155.112f3f547585.1f21314c5a6175
And I'm still not sure how to use my stat points, 3:1 con:spr maybe?
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>>147397526
>doesn't give me any info just tells me not to play said class
>implying it's not shitposting
>explain to him why he's being a faggot
>hypocrisy kek
Okay buddy, you win.
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>>147397538
>stoneskin
>scaling with uptime
Holy shit this is a whole new level of retarded. You're just >>147396313 too aren't you
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>>147397637
Not him, but this thread already had that debate >>147355023
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>>147397526
Is shitposting other people to tell them they're shitposting the new meta now during americunt hour? Honestly it's always the americunts shitting up the thread.
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>>147396913
Please don't associate such a terrible build with me

>>147396313
>Stone Skin will be useless later as most parties will have a chrono.
You're terrible too
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>>147397750
>Okay buddy, you win.
Is everything in your life a competition? You talk about your commitment when you're clearly ignorant about the class. Sure thing shitposter kun
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>>147397865
>Is this a nice PriestC3>Chap build?
Having in mind the upcoming Bless buff and that Stone Skin will be useless later as most parties will have a chrono.

Are you blind or do you just have poor reading comprehension? Having a Chronomancer has nothing to do with Stone Skin skill level.
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>>147397941
>he's still shitposting me
>You talk about your commitment when you're clearly ignorant about the class
That's why I'm asking questions about it? Holy shit are you fucking stupid, and you're still not giving me info and just shitposting me reading into my replies.

>Okay buddy, you win.
I didn't even mean anything by this but if you want to be so insecure then sure. You win :^)
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Stone Skin duration does not increase with skill level. A Chronomancer diminishes the value in Capella, not Stone Skin, which is the other means to have your own Stone Skin at 100% uptime.

Sorc C3 gains less than a circle in Warlock for PvE. In PvP, Warlock is not as reliable. Sorc C3 gives 5 more bats, 5 levels to Templeshooter and two new skills. For PvE, Dark Theurge and even Pole of Cooldown contribute more than these, while bats are still bolstered because they're a dark property skill not to mention Magic Attack scaling for their skill damage. You lose out on extra bats for more bat damage but gain Dark Theurge which contributes more than said five bats and arguably much more than five more levels to Templeshooter. Pole of Agony is bad in a ton of situations, but in the case of cryomancer C3 it is actually good, as you can Pole within Frost Pillar and actually know it'll matter. It just has a huge cooldown.

As a personal preference, it is more appealing to add a whole new potential toolkit. Dark Theurge and bats at once is fun.
As a personal gripe, both current arguments were dumb to read and really mindless.
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>>147397692
It's always 1 EQ, 5 Reflect, 1 Lethargy, 1 EB for a Wiz1 build. You can still find use with Reflect even if it's crap right now like fighting a knockdown maniac boss like Moa for example.
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>>147345476
Why is that popo so fucking smug
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>>147397260
What happened to subzero shield?
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>>147398713
It was agreed since kTOS that Capella is a skill that needs rework because it isn't practical to use.

We tried to find use for it in GvG, but since it only gives buffs to a single party and the actual chaplain could be a better buffer, it was discarded

I don't know how that retarded meme of "100% stone skin uptime" has survived to this day
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>>147398117
Stop being such a whiny fag, did you even read? He's going for chaplain and it's obviously taking it for the autoattack buffs, he may lose some support but stone skin isn't even 100% necessary as long as he's going full SPR, 1 point on it is just fine.
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>>147398713
>In PvP, Warlock is not as reliable
You can't be serious. The only thing you get from Sorc3 is 5 bats and that's it. Desmodus and Evocation are shit. Come on Karga don't be delusional, Dark Theurge is fucking broken in PvP.
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>>147398832
or you can just jump lamo
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>>147398713
I believe bats will turn into Dark balls after exploding with invocation buff. DT and Invoc are the better skills than Desmodus and whatever that other skill Sorc3 has.

>>147398990
Play the game.
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>>147398937
That wasn't the point of the post you imbecile. Stone Skin 1 is fine you retard, it's about the fact that he thinks Chronomancer somehow affects Stone Skin level.
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AFK farming with Hoglan won't give you the loot
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>>147398914
In actual GvG (not the open world meme) everyone is in one single party so Capella could see some use there. It's still pretty easy to destroy so it'd require good positioning.
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>>147399123
>Stone Skin 1 is fine
Play the game beyond level 130 please.
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>>147398941
If you really hate your sorc3 that much then why don't you delete it instead of shitpost about it everytime someone brings up sorc3? Okay it's bad, you hate yourself for playing it, we get it. Move on already.
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I'm curious, are there any skills that can be sold through Pardoner spell shop that aren'the Priest be? Do you think future skills from higher ranks can be sold via shop, like gender change?
Pardoner is futureproof.
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>>147399154
i was wondering when people would do this
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>>147398914
Because it's the only other means. It's not a meme, it being unreliable is a fact. That isn't up for dispute, but the fact that it's 100% uptime is also present. Capella is unreliable, it's best in GvG, stationary mobbing and certain boss fights, mostly ones where your capella won't get bounced. It requires good placement, but it's ultimately in need of tweaking.

>>147398941
I am a Warlock. I am not Karga. Dark Theurge is great, but in PvP that's where it falters. Because in PvP, Warlock is only offering you Dark Theurge.

>>147399106
This is correct, unfortunately summons do not benefit from Invocation which is where the big issue with Warlock comes from. It's not bad enough to cripple you, but Templeshooter's the kind of hero that likes to blow up an entire room, so that usually ends up as an entire room of no spirits
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>>147399219
*aren't priest buffs
Fug mobile
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>>147398941
That's not me.
Also I think Warlock's skills have bad range for PvP, you do NOT want to be running up to people in a fight.
Yes it's quite good at punishing melees like Catas and accidentally bumping into cloaked people, but getting into melee range to use your skills is a quick way to die in a fight.

Also a stronger, lag-immune TS is great in GvG.
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>>147399214
It is fine
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>>147399203
It can't be demolished or captured so that's a big advantage already, but since Stone Skin got "balanced" for arenas the only good use would be a free monstrance if you manage to reach the buffing limit hitbox.
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>>147399154
Well yea, you actually have to run close to the loot to pick it up, unlike silver. If the pet kills it at a distance, you're not going to get it.
But they still don't lose anything by doing this since they're afk. If it so happens to drop at their feet it's a bonus, otherwise they wouldn't have gotten it anyways since they're not playing, and since it's not botting, it's legal since you're just afk and IMC can't do shit about it.
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Can unexpected world boss be a golden boss?
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>>147399580
>tfw I still can't do the hidden quest cause this fucker never shows up
Tell me if you manage to get the hidden quest from the paladin master if you kill it, or do you have to die to it first then you get the quest?
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>>147399347
For a circle 3, I still think the skills like Mastema(WL), Desmodus and Evocation(Sorc3) needs rework, because they deal laughable damage for high rank skills. It won't surprise me if they get damage buff soon.
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>>147399490
It's fine, but it isn't good enough
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>>147399580
I've seen plenty of golden harps, pretty neat
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>>147399468
In a large scale gvg TS is great. In small skirmish TS is very easy to kill. How easy? 1 Wugu poison. Dark Theurge has the chance to block ranged attacks so you don't get sniped by Cannons or Muskets. +5 Bats and a slightly stronger TS is not enough to beat the utility of having Dark Theurge.
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when will we get a class with as much mobility as RO's Star Glad??????
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>>147399669
This is IMC though, they're retarded. I fully expect falconer C3 to get terrible C3 skills as well like sorc C3 and I bet it's never ever going to get reworked.
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>>147399679
Considering he's going for a Full Bless Chap, it's perfectly fine, as he may not be even 100% concentrated in support, and the others buff are just fine to keep him being of utility to parties
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>>147379140
>>147382248
>>147389070

Okay, I'm going with this:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41333.152534.1a21354f5a64

Please tell me that is okay because I already spent the points and I don't want to reroll again ;_;
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>>147398832
Works for me, I still have no idea how to stat this though.
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>>147399679
>isn't good enough
1.5k+ block isn't good enough for what? ET? Maven? Good joke retard.
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>>147399669
Yeah, I wanted Desmodus to be good. Like I really wanted Desmodus to be good, it was the make or break of whether I was going to take Warlock or Sorcerer's third circle. Unfortunately, it wasn't good and I couldn't watch a Sorc C3's Desmodus without feeling sad. Mastema needs a buff, but I really just want them to make Grimoire summons compatible with Invocation. Maybe deny Riding skills from spawning spirits, but their auto attacks need to because they basically steal spirits from you right now.
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>>147399762
Magic Missile and Flesh Cannon were both crap at dealing damage during beta. Lighten up will ya?

>>147399828
You're a debuffer/crown control and buffer. You only got CON to stat up. You better have friends to level with you or you'll hang yourself.
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>>147399967
None or very little SPR then?
I wish I had friends.
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>>147399960
imo they should give sorcer 3 attributes that let their summon get a chance to cast skill when they auto attacking same for necro summon since skeleton die fast and shoggoth is buggy
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>>147399967
That was during the earlier days where IMC actually gave a shit about their game. Look at the balance changes now. They're all just bandaid fixes and not the huge rework certain classes/skills need.
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>>147400303
>they're releasing an entirely new circle
>t-they're not reworking skills!
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>>147400354
I don't think you know what the word rework means.
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>>147399795
A lot of people shit on Stigma, I like it tho. If I had to change something, I'd go
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41333.152535.1523374f5a65
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>>147399795
>1 Zalciai
Why don't you just get lvl 3 so you can get the attribute? If you really want Aukuras 10 then Daino 3 is enough because you don't have priest buffs anyway.
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>>147400239
That'd be fine, I think they should have given C3 some attributes anyway. Unless I am mistaken, it only gained Enhance attributes for the new skills. I'd also ask them to make Salamion a better summon, but that's never gonna happen. At least he makes use of the point
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>>147400446
>Daino 7
>+8 buff counts
Blessing, Aspersion, Stone Skin, Monstrance, Revive, Sacrament, Last Rites, Haste, Quicken, Quick Casting, Steady Aim, Swift Step, Pain Barrier, Sure Spell, Reflect Shield, Concentrate. What class do you play that has access to that many buffs?
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>>147399154
>>147399580
Your luck is going to far Capy
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>>147400178
Join any tosg guild and see if they'll carry your ass. It's easier to get MDEF from gears like bracelets and necklaces. Can't give you any solid advice regarding Cryo and Chrono but I think you need more research on it for better point allocation.

>>147400303
I don't know what classifies as huge reworks for you but gravity pole, static object skills like dirty pole duration and swordsman additional hitbox range are examples of huge reworks for me.
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>>147395312
Wizard/Linker is going to depend heavily on rank 8 classes. You're obviously not going Sorc 4 so the announcements coming later this summer could change that build completely.

Cryo3 suffers in damage output without linker or any hope of quick casting a future class, but snowballs are the best thing ever and giant ice walls are always the life of the party. Do you have a friend playing psychokino or monk or something to hit your walls? It's really hard to set that up with randoms (based monks running up to my wall column and then shooting in the opposite direction accidentally while a swordsman pulls the boss off the screen), but great in a coordinated team.

>>147395971
Use pots, use cards to get through sorc1, linker makes bats AoE for PvE and in PvP bats are for focused fire anyway, and linkers haven't even been noticeable in PvP. The only really irritating thing is the bug where using riding skills after hold stops him from autoattacking until you hold again.

>>147397076
Not everything that attacks the summon hits you, too, but a lot of it does. I'm not sure exactly how the hitboxes work, but you can avoid some ground based boss attacks by riding. That hop off right after triggering rapid fire technique saves you from spending all the SP it would normally cost.
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>>147400880
Meanwhile FP guild leader Lolipiss playing his new alt. Log in to do missions and dg rush then log off.
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>>147399580
Post time of death please.
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>>147399580
I hate Bleak Chapparition so much
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What's a good affordable equipment setup against magic?
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>>147401087
What's your point?
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>>147401371
Let me tell you about the best fucking boots in the game http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/512108/ still using this bad boy at 280.
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>>147401503
>Protas Boots
My nigga
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>>147401092
Fedimian
Tenet Church 2F
Death time: 0;40am

On other news i got another monster gem, please no bully
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>>147401429
The point is Lolipon is useless compared to other guild leaders. Every other guild has tried to do guild missions even though they have low level characters.
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>>147401603
lolipan may be useless always do the opposite of what's helpful to me but they try pretty hard doing this lgbt league and writing essay on the forum even if it's a mistaken premise.

lolipan is okay and always trying to do this gvg stuff.
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>>147401603
Name 1 advantage of running guild missions.
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>>147401809
not him, but hamtaro
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>>147401601
Did you check if you can get the hidden quest from the paladin master after killing it?
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>>147401603
I do not agree that he's useless. He may not have the same priorities, but I will give him credit for organizing a community guild event. I like him
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>>147401842
fp doesn't even got that leveled cause so many people want to join all the level go towards membership
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>>147401842
Snowflake pet that expires after 45 days and requires wasting a whole guild attribute point just so you can farm it.

Anything else?
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>>147401603
Guilds Events aren't working AT ALL
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>>147401503
Then 2 glass bracelets, right? How about for the armor, shoes, and leggings?
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>>147401963
You can't even farm it properly because 99,99% of the time the guild event for it doesn't work for everyone but the templar and maybe a lv 10 guy
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Can someone give me the kino build now?
I assume since the Sub Zero shield nerf there is no point in going Cyro3 Kino3 anymore.
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>>147402124
That Kino right there, that's my girl!
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>>147401967
>>147401945
>>147401809
The point is Lolipan doesn't do shit to organize guild events. We've had plenty of people leave FP already. This battle league shit isn't even that well received in FP because everyone would rather level first and try out other content than to participate in shit flinging at 2fps.
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I have
32 lvl 1 XP cards
82 lvl 2 XP cards
215 lvl 3 XP cards
1 lvl 4 XP cards

I'm lvl 61, when is the best time to use them? Should I wait for lvl 170?
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>someone dropped a monster gem in Tenet
>sit on it in hope of getting it
>it disappear
Thanks IMC
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>>147402243
wait for lv 280 to use them
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>>147402243
You should have spent all your lvl 1 and lvl2 cards before lvl 50.
Now just use them to keep on the map ratio,
-5/+5 lvls over/under the mobs
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No hidden quest or i am talking with the wrong Paladin Master
Here >>147401601 i forgot the channel
Channel 5 Tenet Church 2F
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>>147401038
>Join any tosg guild and see if they'll carry your ass.
I've had poor experiences with 4chan guilds. I don't know how that holds here though.
SPR I was thinking of more for SP rather than defense.
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So instead of strengthening the guild's numbers, and levelling a dedicated Thaum3 that will support everyone in fights(a lot we very much needed but nobody was playing), I should be wasting valuable Guild Attributes on that garbage pet grooming skill, and then gather people every day for the guild event, for a very small chance that it'll work, for a small chance that we'll get a pet that fucking dies after only 45 days.

I don't know man, I think my priorities are right on place. I'll give it to you, I should have gotten my Rodelero to at least 270 already, but that can wait. The Thaum needs to be ready for GvG.

>>147402216
Futureproof is a PvP guild. The GBL isn't perfect, but it's what we have right now. Without it, there'd be no PvP at all. The most people left exactly after the neutrality patch because they couldn't PvP anymore. Don't twist facts.

I'll do the Guild Events eventually, but that's far from being a priority right now.
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>>147401963
Wait what? It expires after 45 days? What the fuck is the point then? I thought it was permanent once you grew it.
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>>147402667
SPR is pretty shit right now, m8. You'll still be chugging SP pots when you use all your skills in succession. I don't even know how status resist work for SPR to be reliable.
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>>147402494
That's sopposed to be it. I guess you really have to die to the boss to get the hidden quest. Which is probably impossible at your level.
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>>147402793
>The most people left exactly after the neutrality patch because they couldn't PvP anymore. Don't twist facts
I can name one person right now off the top of my head Alysse
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>>147402954
>>147402954
>>147402954

migrate
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>>147402216
I'm curious, what other content would they like to try? Saalus isn't special and most people should have experienced it by now, to the point that it just becomes your daily runs for untradeables. Maybe you'll get lucky and get the Archmage Bangle for your wizard, or maybe you'll get that recipe on a character that didn't need it/need it as much.

So then I'd assume ET, which is fine and all. But this isn't something he personally needs to set up for you, because it'd just be five people entering. You guys could do this since you're just forming a party. And once you do it, you reach floor 7 and reroll, hoping IMC fixes it only for them not to fix it yet. Maybe they'll have fixed it next maintenance?

But really, what other content is there that you're keen to do? Guild events are buggy, half the time you won't see the entrance. That's one of the most annoying things about ToS right now in terms of things that need fixing.

There's really nothing wrong I can see with him organizing a PvP event. Especially weighing up the alternatives
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>>147402793
>Without it, there'd be no PvP at all
you've got your head up your ass
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>>147402263
>dat cropped screenie
I thought those were her hands. She's still a mopey bitch on the latest episode I watched. I already saw largemouth semi-naked cutie.
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>>147402793
>>147403167
LOL other servers have no problems with people just declaring war every fucking where. He thinks you need to organize some stupid shit on the official forums before people would actually pvp? LOL
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>>147395086
Meed in fediman ch3 just south of the statue. Ill give you one for free
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