/evn/ English Visual Novel General

Thread seems pretty dead, but dumb renpy question:
Main menu music won't play. No error message, just no sound.
config.main_menu_music = "menusong.mp3"

Things that aren't the problem:
>I didn't mute anything
>The filename is typed properly
>it's in the main game directory folder (though maybe it needs to be somewhere else? no idea)
>nothing regarding music or sound is hashtagged out when it shouldn't be
>I tried adding "init python:
config.debug_sound = True" didn't do shit.

I can't find any solution to this.

>>147259310
Are you sure you didn't mute the audio inside the game? Is your default volume level set to 0? Is your file correctly formatted to be mp3? Does your mp3 have any uppercase letters?

>>147260335
No. I actually just tried, and music inside the game plays absolutely fine. I just played the menu song in the game, worked fine. No uppercase letters, the file seems to play fine, the volume isn't set strangely. I have no idea what the problem is.

>>147260601
Dunno man, are you on an old version that might have had a bug? Best bet would be to ask on the lem forums.

>>147260972
I'm on the latest version.

>>147260601
Maybe that specific .mp3 file's encoding is fucked in a way so ren'py can't play it? Try using one of the files that already works as gameplay music for the main menu.

>>147256442
>Why the fuck y'all so lazy edition
Because we are actually working, for once.

>>147259310
Did you do anything else weird to configure the main menu that might cause it to not look at that particular config note?

Did you uncomment it? (stupid but hey)

Try altering other codes nearby to be sure that section is being called and not overridden by something.

>>147262089
Well I figured it out. It was literally just the options script being fucking retarded and somehow not understanding that I had made changes to it. I've had problems with that before so I guess that explains it.

>>147262264
Something like that happened to me while using the reload script command. Apparantly changed something while loading and renpy got stuck with the older version. Had to modify the file and save it again for the program to recognize the change.

>>147262660
Cute.

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Coming from a Russian imageboard.
What do you guys think about Everlasting Summer? It's like Katawa Shoujo, but for Russian imageboards.

>>147264609
I liked it. The backgrounds were particularly gorgeous. The English version has lots of typos and bad grammar, though.

>>147266523
her boobs look like a weird man chest.

>>147266650
i'm torn between eyerolling at how people call absolutely anything they dislike 'manly' even if it involves giant naked H-cup tits, and critiquing the parts of the chest that do look a bit weird.

like the combination of the way the boobs are shaded and the emphasis lines with the compression caused by that top, seems physically a little weird somehow? that top is designed to press in, and she's clearly nowhere near flat, but the boobs don't seem to be reacting to it? I don't know. Clothes are hard.

>>147269228
Looks hilarious

>>147269228
it's like I'm back in 2004

>>147270652
That's awfully specific. Was 2004 the international year of angst or something?

Seeing how UAB and VA-11 are better than anything /evn/ has managed to produce in years, should the general be renamed to /wvn/ Western Visual Novel General so it stops being semi-dead?

>>147272664
>UAB
kek

>>147272664
>VA-11
>not an evn
???

>>147272664
Sure, why not. Let's admit it, our real common denominator here is not being JVN.

>>147272664
The title has never really stopped us from talking about any non-english vn. It wouldn't make much of a difference.

>>147272664
Wouldn't that rule out the Malaysians, you racist? That's half of LSF right there.

We're basically just "non japanese" but that sounds lame in a title.

>>147273421
Malaysia is slightly west of Japan. Ain't that enough?

hi

>>147273421

>>147276732
?

>>147276664
Will you be my friend?

>>147277305
No

>>147277867
;_;

>>147278873
?

If this is the best we can do maybe we shouldn't bother making a thread

>>147280692
fuck u

From now on, i am drawing at least 3 hours a day!
I will be consistent!
Mark my words!

>>147281241
Please

In renpy, how to you make the song repeat faster? In the game there's always a short but noticeable pause after the track ends but before it repeats. It's not the music itself, if I make it replay in other software it's instant.

Looks like the people bitching about Tao not finishing Dizzy Hearts yet has gotten a reaction. He's decided to put Toko on hold until next year to complete Dizzy Hearts first, since Toko would've slowed down Dizzy Heart's completion. That's good news for kickstarter backers, but I bet Steam users will be pissed.

>>147283945
I think nobody here gives a fuck any more a this point.

>>147284280
It was literally just a few days ago on this thread that people where complaining about Dizzy Hearts not being released while they worked on other games. He also made a comment about people thinking they're not working as hard as they could, so it sounds like people bitching here caused him to change his development plans.

>>147285117
>caused him to change his development plans.
i wouldn't flatter yourself so much.

i think it's a bad decision either way. why spend time on an art revamp and VA for toko chapter one, just to say the sequel is another 2 years in the works?

>>147272919
Are you trying to say UAB isn't hands down the best EVN in existence?

>>147285117
There are definitely people sulking abotu Dizzy Hearts not coming out. Is anyone actually invested in updates for Toko anymore?

>>147283285
Anybody know?

>>147286004
It's just a lolifucking game with a rather unentertaining story. The lolis aren't even hot.

>>147286261
Why do you hate our freedom?

>>147286124
There isn't a 'repeat faster' command because there is no intentional delay. I've looped tracks without noticeable problems.

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>>147286261

>>147285856
He had plans to release Toko chapter 1 in fall, evn complains about his lack of focus and that his kickstarter project which is the oldest still isn't done, suddenly and days later decides to make oldest game top priority and delay other game. It's an odd coincidence if evn didn't influence him at all.

>>147286034
The thousands of people who bought it on Steam care.

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>>147286675
>>147286261
Hideous.

>>147287282
>my opinion is fact

>>147286968
Having thousands of owners doesn't mean thousands of people are eagerly waiting for it to be updated. How many hour-long games you bought and played a year ago would you replay now if they suddenly released an art upgrade?

>>147287339
Your opinion IS fact when it's your opinion about your own opinion. Someone else saying hairy backs are hot isn't going to make them hot to you.

>>147272919
>>147286004
You can say what you want about the premise and art style, that's your opinion, but there's no denying it's extremely impressive. Especially considering the fact that it was made almost entirely by one guy in only 2 years.

>>147287567
Meant for
>>147286261
Also props for that the fact that it's free and the guy didn't jew out with a kickstarter and patreon.

>>147287817
I think a loli game is one of those things you don't really want to have traced back to your bank account, especially in sjw europe.

>>147287817
I can't imagine a kickstarter for a game like UAB would go over very well.

>>147287920
Good point. I'm surprised with how lenient Patreon seems to be with that content though.

>>147286547
On any other music playing program the loop is perfect but on renpy there's always a pause. I really don't know why.

>>147288051
>Patreon
They're probably already collectiong addresses for various alphabet soup agencies waiting for the government to change porn or rape laws.

>>147288615
I sincerely hope not for my own sake

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>>147287920
damn the EU, trying to run our lives!

>>147288923
They're desperate for news that distract from the stagnant economy and rapefugee invasion.

A trial for kiddy fiddlers is always a welcome cover to push some shit through parliament.

D:

Steam sale is almost over. What evns are worth picking up?

>>147288923
wut

>>147291923
None. It's either shit VNs or shit rebates.

>>147292406
rebates?

>>147292927
Rebates.

>>147291923
Sunrider Academy is on a really big discount. It's shit, but if you're into it, good time to pick it up.

The Way We All GO and Asphyxia are both really cheap and the author's works are usually okayish, certainly okay enough for $1.50.

Science Girls isn't a VN but it's a buck so if you want to see someone abuse RenPy to make an RPG, there it is.

Impulse is 60% off which isn't bad but it's TyranoBuilder so honestly I'm still waiting for a higher discount

That's about it for the best discounts (not necessarily the best games) although honestly if you don't own it already, screw the EVNs and buy The House in Fata Morgana instead.

>>147292981
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you suggesting something having to do with getting a game's cost back through selling cards?

Is the SJW assumption that PyTom is a dudebro true?

>>147293754
He's male and republican. For certain sects that means he's automatically the enemy. Worse, he's a white cis het male. But don't expect all SJWs to agree with each other on anything, they hate themselves as much as they hate anything else.

Should I buy Starlight Vega or Highway Blossoms?

>>147297038
Yes.
Also, A Little Lily Princess.
Maybe even that Rising Angels game if you're up for it.

>https://omakase.itch.io/cats-cradle
>* Disclaimer: Lacies are a closed fictional species owned by niaro. Please do not create your own Lacie characters.

ORIGINAL LACIES DO NOT STEAL

>>147297831
I will make my own VN. It will be called Kats Cradle and it will feature a MC living with its Racies

>>147298048
this made me laugh so hard

>>147297284
I meant that I only have enough money for one and which one is better.

>>147297831
I have never understood the deviantart concept of 'adoptable' characters
bidding for 'ownership' of ... what, exactly?

>>147298270
you sound poor. save your money

>>147298270
If you only have enough money for one yuri game buy the Rising Angels one and pirate the rest. It's not the best one, but think of the starving pets.

>>147298280
http://niaro.deviantart.com/art/Lacie-Flat-Rate-150-CLOSED-598349835
>150 for a lacie
what

>>147298280
i've wondered this myself. can i put this OC in my game? can i get additional art of the OC? do i keep a folder of... images that the creator has on display anyways?

>>147298384
I can see why people would pass on RA: Hope. Reborn was more of a sci-fi investigation/mystery, while Hope was a high school comedy in space. They felt pretty disconnected to me. Fates should be better, because it's a direct sequel to Reborn.

>>147298384
Or not pirate any of them and buy them slowly but surely.

>>147298632
I think it was better for the series that Reborn took it away from the school stuff.

>>147298412
Fucking jews.

Bump
RIP EVN

I'm writing yaoi.

There's my update to you all.

>>147306591
Gross.

>>147306591
do westerners care abutt yaoi

>>147306842
I like you.

>>147302068
>that one model in the Sketchup Warehouse that have been reused over and over again

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>need to finish this CG
>my backgrounds look like shit and ruin the feel i'm going for

What are the most common resolutions for visual novels these days? I need to know so I can scale my (terrible) artwork for it.

>>147314157
8000x6000

>>147314607
Are you trying to trick me

>>147315564
It's 1280x720 or some shit like that.

>>147314157
4K. Get with the times.

I will just make them as huge as my penis.

>>147315998
But then we wouldn't see it :/

>>147316176
You would see it, but it would have to be erect.

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Is there any visual novel out there with:

a.) complex dialogue and decision trees
b.) a choice with a consequence at least every 10 sentences so I don't get bored
c.) some randomness to spice things up

>>147317202
bionic heart
long live the queen

I can't tell if getting into making EVNs has made me more happy or more depressed.

>>147319140
Yes

>>147319305
>I finally found something I love!
>My backgrounds are terrible.
>I have an awesome idea for my story!
>I fucked the story up, it's probably lame.
>I created an awesome character!
>When I draw it, it looks like a giraffe crossed with a retarded monkey.
>This is going to be awesome!
>This is so much work.
>I'd love to do this as a job!
>Oh, another flop of a VN just came out. I'll probably never make it.
>Wow, 4chan has a community for EVN enthusiasts like me!
>No one ever posts shit here.

>>147319917
Improve your drawing and redraw chars. Repeat as many times as necessary.
If you really can't into art afterall, hire a pro artist with the money you get from KS/flipping burgers for 2 years/mommy and daddy handouts/selling your manwomb to fetishists.
Go back to the drawing board and unfuck your story. Rewrite the messed up parts. Flat out discard shit.
No one will post shit here ever because if something becomes popular it will get its own general.
>This is so much work.
Yes. So get back to it.

Alright. Being a retard at writing stories. Is it a good idea to have a narrator in a VN? I don't play many of them, but I really want to make one. I have no explanation for that, but here I am. I'm thinking of having a narrator that persists through the entire VN making comments here and there. Is this a terrible idea? Should it just be the characters talking to each other?

>>147320382
Reality is the worst.

>>147320676
No, Not a bad idea. I remember a few JVNs that do that. It's just less common than the ordinary first person narrative.
>Should it just be the characters talking to each other?
You are always going to need some sort of glue to keep it together. Be that the narrator's voice or the MC inner monologue, both serve the same purpose. Of course nuances in perspective vary.

>>147320815
So brave it and make me proud, dammit!

>>147321095
Thanks. I guess I really need to just play some VNs. I feel like I'm diving into the deep end here without knowing how to swim.

>>147321160
Always the best for /evn/. Just don't say too many terrible things about my game or me if I ever release anything. Please.

>>147321175
Yeah you do that. Saya no Uta uses third person perspective, if you are interested. For a more EVN experience try the pastebins. Also go read at least a few routes from Katawa Shoujo since is basically the standard by which you'll get measured. Try UAB if you are not offended by lolis (patrician taste tip: you shouldn't be).

>>147321537
>Saya no Uta uses third person perspective, if you are interested.
Thanks, I'll check them out.
Also lolis offend me very much. Death to loli.

>>147320676
Why do you want a narrator?

First person or third person, past tense or present tense depends on the theme you're going for. Third person creates a level of distance to the story etc.

>>147321935
I want to have a narrator for a couple of reasons. I started writing the script in a text file and automatically added bits that were read by a narrator because it felt natural. I want to be able to speak to the reader from an angle that wouldn't be obvious from the viewpoint of the main character, break the fourth wall, explain the world, etc. I also want the reader to feel like they're part of the story, so I almost don't want to ruin that feeling by adding a narrator. I hope that made some kind of sense. I'm not sure if a narrator is an easy way to break immersion or not. If they don't feel like part of the story, the magic is kinda lost.

>>147321705
Saya no Uta has loli. Sort of. Just a heads up.

>>147322426
That's cool. I was just messing around.
Also, anything for science right?

>>147318175
Neither of them has randomness (IMO it's not a VN if it's random) but they do have a lot of choices with effects.

>>147318175
>bionic heart
>long live the queen

I already played the later and the former is unappealing to me...

>>147324014
Cinders? I think the choices are fairly frequent and they all affect the hidden stats which change the endings, iirc.

Haven't played Solstice so not sure about it

Saya no Uta is just full of surprises isn't it? Was not expecting the first CG with her at all.

>>147326434
That's nice. Post about it in /vn/ not here

>>147326852
Consider it a bump then that contains something remotely related to the topic.

How much money do "good" artists generally charge for a full project? Like, for ten characters, each with four different poses/expressions or whatever (happy, sad, surprised, angry)?

Is $20,000 a good price range for that kind of work for the artist? Tried looking at the OP but couldn't find much on actual price ranges people generally charge.

>>147326952
You're asking solely about ten sprites with almost no expressions, no cgs, no backgrounds, and you think that's worth a year's salary? I want to be your artist.

>>147327250
He said "good" though.

>>147327363
Even among pro artists I've never seen anyone charge more than $200 a sprite, and most people here are paying a fraction of that.

>>147327454
Maybe they added one too many zeros.

>>147326952
20k is more like the budget for an entire evn.

> CG artist makes a curtain red
> BG artist makes it green

well then.

>>147328105
Why not meet in the middle and have Christmas curtains?

>>147328105
These are both terrible colours for curtains.

>internet is not working
>productivity skyrockets
well goodbye progress, it's time for funposting

>>147329452
I know that feel.

>>147326852
If someone is playing a JVN for research purposes and then comment about it, is it relevant to /evn/?

>>147327647
What's the budget for a jvn?

>>147329652
while I am not the god of this thread, I'd say that it would be mostly best only to talk about abstract and technical details and not to comment on the plot, which both risks random spoilers and veering into discussion which has nothing to do with development.

Discussing a technical effect done in a JVN and how/whether to pull it off yourself is obviously on-topic.

Discussing what a gut-punch it was when it turned out Mariko was fucking Hiroshi is not.

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>>147329652
Exactly what >>147330152
said. Tech details and how to apply them makes sense to post here, everything else can fuck right off.

JVNs relate to EVNs since they are by nature the same format. Sure, bitch all you want about discussions when they happen, but please stop sticking your pinkies up people's asses for no reason.

>>147330650
'The untitted' seems a fitting handle for such a flat chick.

>>147329729
a lot more than that.

My goal is to create a vn you lot won't shit on.

>>147331329
The only way to do that is to ensure we never find out about it

>>147314157
It's 720p.

>>147331329
someone will say "it's shit" just to be contrarian, it's 4chan

>>147331751
or never release it at all

>>147332367
We only get an /evn/ related release once every thousand years, so I doubt it will be that anon.

>>147332367
Oh, we happily shit on things that aren't released

>>147333097
Not me. I'm nice. The symbol of justice in this hell hole.

who /sunofes/ here? It's like nanoreno but for slow people because it lasts for 2 months.

>>147334941
I would need about 2 decades at my pace.

>>147334941
I might join, I dunno. Extra exposure is always welcome for me.

>>147334941
Some of us don't derail our real projects by making a ton of new small projects in the middle

>>147335609
aw hell you caught me

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>>147335609

>>147287342
I think anon was referring to the future chapters and not the art upgrade. Who in their right mind would buy a story never expecting it to be finished for 2 or more years?

>tfw sunrider was shit on every front
>tfw its core idea was neat, with VN choices affecting gameplay

>>147337036
I find it odd that its copycat, ACE Academy, will probably be a more appealing game when it gets completed.

>>147336824
Anyone who buys an episodic indie game is a moron, really, the vast majority are guaranteed to never be finished.

>>147337971
If nothing else Tao could turn it into a light novel series like those short stories he's posted of it on his website.

>>147338309
I just remembered that Sekai Project is planning to starting publishing manga and light novels, so this could actually be a good idea. That way you'd only need the writer and a few images versus needing a ton artwork, music, and programming.

How come writing tires the hell out of me but drawing eats hours and hours without any apparent impact on my mental stamina?

>>147338530
>Sekai Project is planning to starting publishing manga and light novels
translating them you mean? Also isn't LN niche in the west occupied by YA fiction already? Pretty much only hardcore weebs care about LNs and they sure as hell won't buy "original english light novels".

>>147339704
It works for Seven Seas Entertainment. They published Avalon: Web of Magic and other non-Japanese novels.

don't let devving make you ugly(er)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_dFRnmdGs

>>147342287
Dunno anon. Since I started exercicing to stop being fat, my dev time has shrunk dramatically.

>>147342881
just stop eating then you'll have more time to code

>>147343172
Already did. It works, albeit slower. Kinda wanted to get over this "become healthy so you don't die young" business as fast as possible.

>>147343270
I'm not sure whether you're kidding or stupid.

>>147345130
But stupid is as stupid does, anon. And I don't even like chocolate. Checkmate, atheist!

>>147346984
I too luv me some kush m8

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Guess I have to ask here. Does anyone here have the full patreon version of Re:Maid?
Can't find a download link anywhere

>>147347485
have you tried the patreon?

>>147347551
But they're ripoff artists so why should I pay them?

>>147348545
Please just admit you want to play games for free.

That said, you probably won't be able to find it since there's a full 18+ version on Newgrounds. There's no real reason for anyone to upload the Patreon version.

>>147349280
Well I'm the guy who asked and I just want to play games for free. Happy now?

>>147349280
I'm not the guy who asked and I don't want to play their game at all, I just want to remind everyone that they're scum who tried to get away with stealing art and selling it.

>>147350036
Technically they weren't selling it. The game was free.

>>147350441
okay fine, stealing art and using it to get patreon supporters, better?

>https://www.patreon.com/marblesyrup
>$16,000 a month

oh my god

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>>147352807
let's do it mang, I'll rip some assets from an untranslated low-sales eroge from some unknowsn circle, you'll write some memetastic jokes, Kevin McLeod will provide the music
we're gonna be RICH

good nighto

aiyo

>>147352807
I should lose my sense of shame one of these days and get on the patreon train. Might even get enough money to revolutionize the genre, or something...

>>147339568
Uses totally different parts of your brain. Look on Twitch and you'll see artists carrying on conversations with their chat while drawing. I used to listen to long podcasts like This American Life and Radiolab while doing sketches and coloring. Doing that kind of thing while writing would be impossible unless you have two brains.

>>147342881
How much time are you spending at the gym anon? Are you one of those people spending hours upon hours at the elliptical? A year ago I decided to start lifting and all told I spend less than 2 hours a week working out following the Rippetoe routine, and in the past 2 years I have muscled up from from 150 lbs with 25% body fat to 160 lbs with 10% body fat (so I lost 20 lbs of fat and gained 30 lbs of muscle). This was after years of trying to lose fat through hours on the treadmill and other cardio, at one point I was running 1 mile every day and my weight was still pretty stagnant. High intensity exercise for a short duration seems to be way more effective than low intensity exercise for a long duration.

Also, could just be that I started lifting around the time that I finished school and got a "real" job, but it also seems to have improved my sleep as well. I used to stay up every night until like 4 AM and then wake up at 9 AM (couldn't sleep in even if I tried), always felt perpetually tired, now I fall asleep every night at around midnight without any trouble and get a solid 7.5 hours per night. I sleep more but I get more work done because when I was insomniac the hours from midnight to 4 AM could never be productive time for me because I was too mentally tired to do anything creative but not physically tired enough to fall asleep.

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>>147363559
>but it also seems to have improved my sleep as well.
Perhaps it's not the most credible source, but surely cute girls make it easier to believe.

>>147362640
Having two brains would be great.

Are we there yet, mom?

>>147370298
SGDQ is going on, so I'm just doing game coding instead of writing. It requires less thought.

>>147352807
>1 update per month.
>Almost guaranteed to be still stealing art.
>Full average or better quality VN earnings for a year each month.

This is why we can't have nice things. Humans are full retard.

>>147373249
>Almost guaranteed to be still stealing art.
They are very obviously not still stealing art, unless you think they came across a game where the characters turn into elves, cat girls, demons, sexy ninja turtles and bunny girls.

>>147373738
You don't seem to understand how art theft, or even art in general works. I'm surprised you can even type full sentences.

>>147373814
It's true. I have to steal my sentences.

>>147373814
Don't tell me you're stupid enough to be thinking they're just editing stolen assets.

>>147373249
>1 update per month.
>Full average or better quality VN earnings for a year each month.
if I had 16k to work with i'd make something really incredible, not dragging out production of a boring porn vn. i'm spending 2k on just the writing for my next VN and I have to cut content to balance it with the final profit line estimate.

>>147374086
Struck a nerve did I? Don't take it personally. I don't mind if you support them. I just think you're half braindead.

>>147374321
I like that when you insult me it's just banter, but when I do it's because you struck a nerve. I don't support them.

real meal for 5 bucks?

>>147374565
That's nice. Listen.
If you get caught stealing TVs and your future livelihood comes from selling TVs, you're just going to have to deal with people suspecting you of still stealing TVs. That's just how the world works. Also, I'm not insulting you, I'm insulting your intelligence. It's not your fault for how you were born.

>>147374812
It's kind of stupid to suspect someone of still stealing TVs when they're posting the process of them being manufactured, but you're right. That's just how the world works.

>>147375280
>It's kind of stupid to suspect someone of still stealing TVs when they're posting the process of them being manufactured

It really depends, doesn't it? You clearly follow them more closely than I do, so you probably know more about them. I don't know if they're streaming all the art being created from scratch, or not. I don't really care, since the faces just look like a poorly done Ishikei clone and the bodies have wonky anatomy. If they do show the entire process, perhaps they are indeed legit. Maybe they even changed artists. I wouldn't know. Anything less is probably just them throwing scraps to the pigeons.

>>147321537
>Try UAB if you are not offended by lolis
I'm offended by ugly lolis.

>>147327647
>spending money to make an evn
Pleb.

>>147376318
It's impossible not to considering you'll need to eat and drink tho

>>147378254
Do you really, though?

>>147378254
Well that applies to everything you do, not just VNs. And you can always get a patreon so people will pay for your food and drinks.

>>147378646
Or in the case of some, pay your entire monthly mansion mortgage, and the monthly pay for your house servants.

>>147379082

By then your house servants will end up making you vn, too.

>>147379424
Damn right. They're servants after all. If they don't do what you want, you just whip them until they want it.

>>147374152
>can't even write his own VN
I hope you are the artist of the project, so you at least have an excuse.

>>147381103
i'm slow and busy

>>147374152
>Full average or better quality VN earnings for a year each month.
Nah, if you have a few decent VNs on sale you'll make that in a month.

>>147381515
>if you have a few decent VNs
Yeah, but that's multiple VNs, and multiple decent quality VNs at that. Quite an achievement for the loners here.

Saya no Uta had like 50 people working on it, and Japanese are hard workers. We aren't all capable of amazing feats here.

>>147376102
Both what they did and the amount of money they're making now for a newgrounds tier flash vn thoroughly disgusts me, but maybe, just maybe, they're making enough with that 16k a month to hire a decent artist.

>>147382661
and I meant to add that I finished all the routes in under 4 hours. A large portion of the BGs were filtered real life photos too.

>>147382790
>but maybe, just maybe, they're making enough with that 16k a month to hire a decent artist.

You never give people like that the benefit of the doubt. They're probably buying tons of other shit they don't need since it's probably the first time they've had real money since they left high school. Most people take the easiest possible route always.

:D

>>147382661
I earn more than that a month but I don't expect most of you to be able to live up to my standard.

Prove me wrong with your awesome games.

>>147388574
Hi Hanako

>>147388574
To prove you wrong, you first have to provide some kind of substantial evidence supporting your claim. Otherwise you're just some random anon making more stupid shit up like what happens thousands of times every day in threads just like these.

Are you trolling? Are you secretly trying to motivate people? We may never know.

So, is Sekai Project going to announce any exciting EVN news?

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>>147389485
>Please give me your bank account info
top fucking kek, the shit you see on 4chan.

>>147389641
They will post about them on their twitter. Except for Highway Blossoms, which will get their trailer shown.

>>147389741
Surely there are better ways to demonstrate wealth. Like buying everyone presents.

>>147389641
Yes, for alienworks

anh

what

>>147389741
This is exactly why no one should ever listen to stuff like that or take it seriously on 4chan. It can't be and won't be proven. Trolls like you know this. Then they proceed to reply to any replies to their trolling with reaction images and green texting. It makes no sense to me. You might as well be doing something useful with your time like working on something worthwhile, but you're wasting your life on stupid shit like that. Does it give you self worth?

>>147392214
>Person asks for bank account details
>Laugh, make a joke post with a reaction image
>They respond with a funny post, we both probably laugh and move on
>[you]

Maybe you should lighten up instead of assuming everyone is trying to "troll" and instead have a good time. You probably can't do that though.

>>147392214
But you're also wasting your time preaching to people on 4chan.

>>147392464
I'm trying to lighten up
but i'm still fat

Sekai's panel has begun! I'm ready to be disappointed by everything,, EVN and JVN alike!

>>147392654
Being fat is better than being extremely skinny at least.

>>147392946
How so?

>>147392464
I have a great time, annoying trolls like you.

>>147392946
Only if you're literally-dying-from-malnutrition skinny.

>>147392464
There was nothing funny about it, and if you honestly think trolling and reaction images are funny you need your brain checked.

>>147392782
Why the heck is the quality so low?

>>147393192
>if you have a different sense of humor than me you need your brain checked

>>147393294
Dunno. I'm reading the text stream, not watching.

>>147393338
There are standards for everything. I can only imagine how simple minded you would have to be to find a blatant troll post and a reaction image that gets over-posted with some green text is funny. Too simplistic to write a decent story, that's for certain. I almost feel sorry for you.

>>147393595
This is the real troll.

>>147393595
>>147393338
>>147393192
>>147392464
>>147392214
>>147389741

go work on your projects you fucking losers

>>147393693
You could call it a reality trolling. Sometimes speaking the truth brings out adverse reactions. Who would have known. At least I wasn't bragging about my huge bank account or posting reaction images.

>>147393897
No, I need to sleep.

Only one type of person saves non-cute-anime-girl reaction images, and that type of person is very simple minded. Or probably just very young.

Is anyone else seeing this Love In Space trailer? Have they fully sold their souls?

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>>147393071
1. Not a troll
2. You're not annoying me, you're making me feel sorry you can't see someone make a joke without assuming some sort of troll attempt is going on. If you were annoying me I'd stop responding since that's what sane people tend to do, I'd recommend you try it next time you think someone is "trolling".
>>147393992
So you're just mad cause someone has more money than you? That's reality man, you don't need to lash out for no reason.

Gonna stop this here since I'm not in the mood to argue with some nofun killjoy.

>https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/749806210661097472

is this sunrider

>>147394273
>So you're just mad cause someone has more money than you? That's reality man, you don't need to lash out for no reason.

I sincerely doubt that. Also, calling out a troll isn't lashing out. It's a service. Now back to your hole.

>>147394273
>Gonna stop this here
Good. Simpletons really should just keep their words to themselves. I know 4chan is well populated with them, but seriously, come on.

>>147394379
You're callin me a troll for having a laugh m8, that's basically an attack. I'm telling you to lighten up. Not going anywhere either, just done arguing with you since you have nothing else to say.

I lurk this place to see projects in the works, not for manufactured drama

get your shit together, tumblr babies

>>147394219
https://youtu.be/dmqOpdgzeHk

Just like my authentic nippon aidoru games. They've even got a kansai-ben one.

>>147394514
>just done arguing with you since you have nothing else to say.
That makes two of us. Also you never had anything to say. I've just been replying to your nothings this whole time.

>>147394523
Look at it on the bright side, the baby throwing a tantrum about a joke is probably bumping the thread at least.

>>147394550
What is this? A western company that tries so hard to become Japanese that they have actually assimilated into Japanese society? What's the point? It's like a pristine drop of rain wanting to live in a dirty over-saturated puddle.

>>147394669
You might as well be doing something useful with your time like working on something worthwhile, but you're wasting your life on stupid shit like that. Does it give you self worth?

Pot meet Kettle. With that, we're done here.

>>147394714
It takes two babies to throw a tantrum. Maybe even a third or a fourth in this case. You're all babies. Stop acting like anything but.

>>147394848
No we're not, and I'll tell you why. You need the attention. Just admit it. You get nothing else in your shitty life.

>>147394523
>I lurk this place to see projects in the works, not for manufactured drama
please be a joke

>>147394832
Weebs will go to the extremes if you let them anon.

>>147395001
Yeah seriously, why lurk for something that happens once every couple of months at best. No one posts progress here. Occasionally we get random VN images from random lemmasoft VNs. Maybe a tidbit here and there when something like NaNo comes around. If I wanted to see EVN progress, this is the last place I would come.

>>147395190
Where else is there to go besides here for EVN progress and stuff? Like an actual community and not just some blog or website for one project.

>>147395276
LSF I guess.

>>147395276
Lemmasoft, Fuwa, Reddit.

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>>147395389
>Reddit

>>147395456
Anon never said "good" anon. I provide information. That is all.

It's like posting in a thread for novel writers. You're never going to get any progress other than "I wrote 2,000 words today!" It just feels so distant. In threads like /agdg/ evil as it may be, you have devs who post progress constantly. They post their characters, their ideas, all kinds of things. They even have developer names. There is nothing like that here. The only time this thread comes to life is when there's drama or some kind of stupid argument. Sometimes the thread dies and stays dead for days at a time. Are we going to disappear /evn/? It's like we built a house on a shaky foundation with nothing to hold it but toothpicks. It could topple at any moment. What meaning is there to this life?

>>147396110

It's because we have very few active devs, who presumably spend more of their time developing rather than posting about it.

>>147396180
Do they really exist though, or are they just in our heads?

I'm not even a dev. I just come here to hear about games and see the few in development being posted.

In renpy, how do you just show a transition without actually changing the images shown before or after?

>>147396110
people used to post stuff but they got attacked for whatever reason, and i guess it perplexes others why someone doesn't want to post if they get a bunch of negative feedback.

>>147396796
From my experience posting original works on 4chan... Many people seem to be jealous or seeking to attack people who post original works. Many just straight up get ignored. Rarely you might get some useful feedback, but most is negative. Not the constructive kind of negative. Some messed up, merry go round of how to make it better by doing what the poster wants you to do. Which is normally always a terrible idea. Negative feedback can be good, but destructive feedback or thoughts on how it could be better in high doses is just a recipe for disaster. Most people giving advice have no clue what they're talking about. Of course, most of this comes from my experiences with /ic/, but 4chan is mostly 4chan. It attracts a lot of the same kinds of people. I've seen art posted plenty of times with decent anatomy that gets torn apart. Even after providing redlines showing the entire anatomy and how it works you get people arguing about tiny insignificant things. If you've ever heard of mercwip you know what I'm saying. 4chan is quite the tragedy. It pulls people in, but never really gives them any kind of release. Just flips it's skirt and shows some leg on occasion.

>>147397579
>it is skirt
Also just to prove I'm from /ic/ and can't actually write.

>>147396796
The one time I posted my art here some artfag 'critiqued' it. I didn't fucking ask for it, but then they expect their critique to be holy grail and flipped their shit when I posted progress without applying their 'critique'.

>>147397858
This is just in general but I don't understand when people get mad about critiques they "didn't ask for". If you're posting something, you're asking somebody to say something about it.

>>147397858
Not sure if this is relevant, but if anyone wants advice on your art, go somewhere that people will actually be able to help you. You don't need a hugbox like DA, and you don't need a shitbox like 4chan. Find someone with a decent knowledge of art and befriend them. Ask their advice. Learn from people who aren't anonymous. Get your free ebooks, info and any random questions that have little bearing on anything from 4chan and find someplace that you can grow. Don't waste your time here. You'll regret it. Use 4chan only for airing out your dirty clothes when they start wreaking and you need to release a bit of that pent up frustration or shoot the shit with random idiots.

>>147398361
This is true. Posting anything on a discussion board is like asking for a discussion. My point is, most of that discussion is rabble.

>>147397858
Isn't this something like the reason DesertFox left here?

May I ask what you were expecting by posting your art?

>>147392946
>this is what fat people actually believe

>>147397579
>4chan
it's called tall poppy syndrome all creators have it.

>>147398759
I was simply replying to the POST PROGRESS anon, I wasn't looking for an art teacher/critique whatever.

I mean sure they may have a point, but at the time it struck me as some armchair artfag know-it-all.

>>147398542
>discussion board
That's a funny way to spell shitposting board.

>>147399072
is that the time that guy poorly edited your work to be 'better' and it looked like shit? for what it's worth i found that anoying too

>>147399072
I guess it sounds more like an annoying case, I thought you were more just pissed that someone was trying to give you tips. Disregard.

>>147394550
You know, the production value looks pretty high, and they even have japanese voice actresses, yet there's just something so pitiful about this to me.

>>147399049

That's crab mentality, fuck this is America. Don't post on an american message board on the holiest of american days talking about eurocentric analogies instead of pure american ones.

>>147399683
u have crabs

>>147399683
Sir Terry Pratchett was pretty keen on the crab bucket analogy, and he was distinctly British.

>>147395276
I seriously need to know of a place that accepts hardcore fetishes without the fear of being immediately locked down by mods or tarred and feathered by the community.

>>147400186
How hardcore are we talking?

>>147400387
it's the guy who is paranoid tumblr will come after his tentacle hentai game

>>147399654
The unironic use of cardboard anime archetypes somehow seems even more flat when used by westerners. If you have that kind of production value make something interesting.

>>147396110
Devs would post more if we were far less offensive and there was a real benefit to doing so. We have very few devs who will post in here despite that, and anyone who might be interested in posting only has to see the reaction those devs get to decide against doing so. Not to mention all the other randomly posted images that get ripped apart.

We like to ignore everything nice about what's posted and instead just hammer home how garbage the GUI looks, or why the sprites look like they have the downs. Critiques are awesome, but they should reinforce the positives as well as explain the bad, and they should never feel like they're trying to personally attack someone's efforts.

>>147402418
Honestly, /evn/ tends to be a lot nicer to people they know are from here. The only reason the random images get ripped apart is because they are outsiders.

>>147402418

It's typical from a thread that thinks anyone saying anything positive comment about a game is shilling.

>>147402759
This. We mostly just make fun of tumblr baby games.

>>147399356
Eh, I think we could use more people like that in here. I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but people who go out of their way to redline or otherwise offer a clear cut visual critique are generally quite helpful.
They should never get pissy if their critiques are ignored however. Redoing work is another matter and may not always be feasible, so instead they should just hope that what they brought to light can benefit that artist in their future work.

>>147400732
Nah, I'm the guy making a VN with loli, incest, bestiality and other fetishes that tend to send most people running towards the hills or coming after me with pitchforks. If one fetish doesn't alienate someone, the combination of all of them usually does the trick.

>>147403448
Just don't advertise it to sjw types. And don't sell it or the loli police might find you.

>>147402759
Dunno about that. Some of the HB and Lucid9 devs are here, but I've seen them get dumped on quite a bit, especially the former.

>>147402759
Mugen and Tao are both hardcore /jp/ & /evn/ posters until recently and those two get picked on the most, so your analogy doesn't hold any water. If anyone here thinks there is a dev posting here from a particular group, that person will trash the dev just on principle.

>>147403694
HB/Alienworks is an exception, mostly due to Raithfyre.

As for Lucid9, I don't recall seeing them get any hate. I mean they released a free game, what can you really say about that?

>>147403693
I'm less concerned about the reception it gets and more concerned about being able to find or hire some reliable help that won't just disappear on me.

>>147404083
Well if you mean hiring artists the loli and incest shouldn't be terribly hard to get, but the bestiality might be trickier, though that's less because of people being grossed out by it and more that it's harder to find artists who can draw proper animals.

>>147403694
Highway Blossoms was because people were using its quality to gauge what HRP might be like. It also got amazing critical reception despite not being particularly amazing.

>>147403950
Tao is literally an /evn/ meme, I'd say he actually has quite a bit of fans in this general more so than anyone else.

As for mugen, I'm surprised when you say he gets picked on, he gives a lot to the EVN community.

>>147403987
I've seen people who praised it (reasonably, without saying it's better than everything else or the art is god tier or anything else over the top) get called shills quite often, probably because they knew the dev was here. Also, once the initial short lived, but mostly positive reception died down, it started getting trashed every time I saw it brought up.

>>147404281
By evn standards it's pretty up there, though that has more to do with evns than highway blossoms itself.

>>147404324
/jp/ used to troll him because one guy in his company smuggled onions but that's just bants. Mention Mugen on /evn/ and it's all hating on his games because of weed memes.

>>147403448
>combination of all of them usually does the trick.
name one.

>>147404367
Oh, I took a month or so break from here around that time I guess I missed it all. I do recall seeing anyone posting anything positive about it a shill though.

>>147404367
That's likely due to the hype dying down and people starting to form their opinions on what flaws the VN had. I know people who really liked it, but hated the MC and the drama she created for herself.

>>147404274
I've been doing everything myself thus far, but I feel like I've hit the point where I'll need a programmer as this is a bit more complicated than a straightforward VN. So many places have started cracking down on loli alone that I don't even know where to begin to look for someone who I know has experience and won't just up and disappear on me.

>>147404324
Besides the running gag of people thinking every woman he draws is secretly a futa, I think most of the criticism is centered on his lack of project focus. He seems working on this now though. It just felt like he announced alot of games and the newer ones got finished before the older ones. I was baffled when he announced his space game, when he was still working on Toko and Dizzy Hearts. His games don't have separate staff, so that many projects is just going to bog down progress on all of them.

>>147404459
It's not hard to imagine a combination with those fetishes and why that might make people feel uncomfortable.

>>147405079
name one time tumblr went out with pitchforks for someone's stupid cartoon fetishes. making someone uncomfortable because you drew girls fucking dogs, well big whoop, there are lots of western artists doing that already. a high percentage of most well-known western hentai artists seem to have some degree of gross ass bestiality in their art galleries, you're not even special in your attempts to cater to pervs.

if you don't want someone making negative comments about what you made, then never show it to anyone, ever.

1001010100010010101010101010111

4th of july

>>147410371
what do americans do during the 4th?

>>147410562
deck out the town in flags, eat bbq, party with tailgaters, drink, walk around strangers wearing 'merican memorabilia made by eastern slaves, then watch fireworks at night.

>>147410850
Do americans also confess when they watch fireworks?

>>147411054
n-no
what is this reference to?

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>>147406324
I didn't literally mean it causes people to run to the hills or take up arms, that was a joke, and I don't know where you got tumblr from, but the legality of lolicon and many site rules effectively bar me from even posting any of it to begin with. And if you don't think these kinds of fetishes can easily alienate or outright repulse people who don't go looking for them, then I don't know what to tell you.

The real problem is that I don't know where I might be able to turn to in order to recruit someone experienced and reliable while also taking into account that loli isn't allowed in most places. I'd like to make an appeal directly to people who I know have experience as I've had terrible luck trying to find them elsewhere.

>>147404367
I rarely miss a thread and all I've seen said of Lucid9 was "amazing writing" and such, some guy said SoL was boring and the other that the art was too loli for him to take the story seriously, I don't remember any hate really
personally I liked it well enough apart from writing in couple of places where the characters behave like animu cliches (mind you, it's literally a couple of moments in the entire long VN) and that one BG in MCs room looking weird.

>>147415037
Is Lucid9 worth it? I know it's the first in a series correct? Is the conclusion of the first one satisfying on it's own? I really don't like serial VNs.

>>147415325
It's a self-contained story, yes. Beginning is a little slow, the actual mystery part is good.

bummmm zzzzzzzz

>>147413123
>was he autistic or gay?

>>147417632
he was saving himself for a better waifu than Sakura

>>147417798
No such thing.

appu

>>147396737
What do you mmean, exactly? If nothing changes, what's to transition to? Do you just want to fade to black and back?

>>147331329
Your goal should be to make some of us defend your title. That's how you know it wasn't worthless.
As it stands, your goal is impossible.

>trying to add status effects to my own barely fucntional slapped together battle framework
>it works in an unpredictable random manner for reasons I can't understand
well

>>147422264
Tell us some examples of how it implodes, maybe we can help. And even if not, at least it's on topic. Not like the freshly baked drama I find every morning when I check the thread.

>>147415037
I also barely miss a thread, but I dtd see a handful of posts calling those who praised it a shill. I think that's pretty par for the course here.

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>>147422897
Okay. I can't post the exact code right now but I'll try to at least explain what I was trying to do.
Firstly, I'm using https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=18047 group battle as a basis (though at this point it's mangled and barely recognizable, but the overall logic is the same).
What I want to do: player clicks a skill, it applies a debuff to enemy. This debuff sticks for 3 rounds. Ideally I would like to make enemies apply them to a party too (say a random chance every turn).
What I did to try and make it happen: first added a turn counter at the end of the battle loop, after each turn count increases by 1. Added a button that when clicked changes status (e.g. "poison = true") and checks what round it is. Then in the section that deals with party member's attack I added a "while" loop that checks if poison = true and whether stored round counter increased, and the loop terminates if it's increased by 3, setting "poison" back to false.
It's a fucking mess, yes, I don't expect anyone can save me. Sometimes it tracks the debuff correctly, sometimes it won't apply at all or stick forever.

>>147424241
Ok, as the random effects you mention seem to be mostly not debuffing when needed, and since you use a bunch of whiles and fors, seems like the problem has to be some inconsistency with loop var increase (silly stuff like "i = " instead of "i =="), out of bounds due to incorrect stopping conditions (if counter == 3 instead of >= 3, maybe) or good ole classic array overflow. Those are the most common mistakes in these cases. Double check everything and try to run little parts of the code to isolate the buggy part.

Can't go into more detail without seeing the code... and on top of that, even if the underlaying logic is the same as C or Java, I don't even know Python syntax.

Friendly reminder to never let Sekai 'publish' your games.

>>147417632
Neither. A tease.

>>147425243
Thanks mang, I shuffled some things around and apparently it's the while loop that fucked everything up, at least the debuff now correctly expires.

>>147414525
You really just don't. You either do what that one German guy did and make it all on your own over the course of many months, or you just don't do it. Alternatively, pretend to be Japanese and it suddenly just becomes more weird shit from Japan.

>>147427190
Glad to help

>>147426458
why not?

>>147429920
You lose a chunk of your money in exchange for basically nothing, unless you manage to negotiate with them to give you some upfront funding. If you can get funding from them then fine.

>>147431915
Looks like Love in Space is back in their good graces by creating an Idolmaster clone.

Fundamentals are so boring. I hate boxes and ellipses so much.

>>147434606
But you gotta do it anon. Ganbatte!

> send mail to youtuber in march
> recieve reply yesterday

I'm glad it wasn't urgent.

>>147435108
Just be happy they replied to you at all.

>>147435184
yeah, but 3 months later?

>>147435827
I'm not popular enough for people to mail me, so I don't know anything about such things.