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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
>>146720276
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A best.
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Evening niggers
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>>147186284
Sup bro, what rad megaten games have you played today, duuude.
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>>147186284
It's afternoon faggot.
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>>147186342
I played more DeSuO

>>147186402
Get out of here West Coast
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>>147186617
Devil Children updates from March, plus the anon working on it posted here in that time.
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>>147186617
It was just updated April 2016
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>>147186548
Still afternoon here faggot.
Mountain time, bitches.
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>>147186769
yeah i noticed thats why i deleted the post

but i still dont get it whats the point of translating an inferior version of a game we already have?
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>>147187350
Shit son calm down, it's just a shitty snes game you nerd.
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>>147187820
If you're so rich then why don't you hire a bunch of japs to translate the game for you? Everyone in here would love you and you could shit on Gideon all you want.
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>>147187820
If you're so rich why don't you give me some money and I'll be your friend

Then we can be mad together
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Playing P3P right now

Is it normal for nearly every late game boss fight to devolve into MC spamming his strongest (not necessarily what the boss is weak against) while one party member spams buffs/debuffs and the other two get one-shotted repeatedly?
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>>147189089
no
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>>147187820
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>>147189157
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>>147190746
Sasuga Doi, this is a cute dog
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>>147188358
same
drop your mail i'll send you info for the bank transfer :)
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>>147191570
[email protected]
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>>147191817
Go to kendo with your fucked up knee
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Hoy
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Hoy
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STOP DYING, SERPH
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Hoy, wake up.
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>>147203821
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I couldn't find the statue of Tabasa so I ended up going down to the dungeon, probably overleveled as fuck for Medusa now, whoops.
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>>147177684
Whenever I try to look at Asahi I end up looking at her earrings. Which is strange, as I never noticed them in real life.
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Hoy.
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FUWAH
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>>147209885
I do not comprehend.
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>>147210258
best moirae sister
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>>147210414
Is that Atropos?
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>>147210584
Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdIVcuve64k

FUWAH
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>>147210982
ELEGANT!
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>>147211715
EEHHH
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ARE YOU READY?
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That's a bit silly
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It's too late for this shit
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I wanna draw a cute girl

which cute demon/waifu should I draw though?
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>>147224793
Sera is cute.
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>>147224793
Acheri
Kikuri-Hime
Nekomata
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*casts agi*
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>>147228476
Sera dodged!
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>>147225346
>>147225694
o fuc i forgot to post this

I got a bit creative and just slapped sera into nekomatas outfit
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wake up, smt general!
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/smtg/ sings anon, are you there?

Anyone wants to contribute? We need more people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HwIDK0ayqM
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so you guys hate nu-Persona or...?
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>>147233148
Eh.
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So, this is what the humans call "read dead hours".
Such silence and stasis...
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I didn't even realize 4's neutral theme is just SMT2's neutral theme.

I'm such a fool.
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>>147234469
MOST UNLUCKY FOR YOU!
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http://eirikrjs.tumblr.com/post/146779248787/because-i-couldnt-wait-here-are-some-scans-of
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>>147236354
>That Innana
>That Cleopatra
Why are they cuter there than in their official art
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>>147238175
>>147238364
>>147238452
Whitefags should always have sage on by default.
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>>147238565
Not that guy but I have. There are a lot of people here who aren't 真・whitefags, just look at the pathetic OP.
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>>147238764
Good boy.
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>>147216237
Why are you playing the japanese version?
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>>147239767
Why are you playing the english version?
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>>147240584
Why are you playing?
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>>147240584
because im not some 40million funny-symbols reading weaboo
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>>147241927
Good to know. Why did you ask that guy that question?
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>>147242397
deep-seated jealousy and inability to accept people better than i am
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Hoy.
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>>147242482
actually my ego is huge to the point where it's an actual problem sometimes, so i would never write that
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>>147244418
>Dagda, Inanna, and Danu all look better in concept
At least Dagda's final version still looks cool but WHY.
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Is it me or does this one look really fucking cool?
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>>147246261
absolute ass. i still like Danu's final art, but it's a strange ongoing theme with SMT where its concept art was 200% better than the finished product.
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>>147246979
At least we didn't get maid mermaid I guess. But man, even Miroku's concept looks better.
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Time to play some Megami Tensei. See you in 16 hours.
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>>147238175
>>147238364
>>147238452
hot memes
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>>147230083
Cute! Thought it was Space Marine when I first saw it in the thumbnail
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>>147246708
Looks like a rough draft for a yugioh card
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>Nakajima levelled down
wow
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HA HA HA HA HA!
You give into your desires so easily!
Foolish ones, I will wipe you from this world!
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>>147246261

Alt Dagda just doesn't seem to be marketable for the main demon and I think they wanted Dagda and Danu to have matching designs.
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Anyone here with the IV Final artbook? Heard Gaston was supposed to be a girl originally.
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>>147255238
Eirikr is getting Dijeh to translate some stuff so hopefully we'll see more interesting things from him. He already posted a bunch of demon concept art.
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The final art looks more like the guest artists ones from IV while the concept art looks more like Kaneko demons.
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>>147255238
find eirikr on tumblr
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I'm eager to ''do" your part here, too
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ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>147246708
Looks too much like DDS2 Vritra to use as Satan for my tastes
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#FE was a mistake
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DRINK OF THE WINE OF THE WRATH OF GOD!
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>>147261794
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>>147262270
Gale and Cielo best Megaten bros.
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>>147185859
Could someone link me to the restored versions of Persona 1 on the psp with the original soundtrack?
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>>147262907
Here you go: https://mega.nz/#!6khmERzS!72S43eBf7gk8a6aBWjptqcCrFghCWO0kWAmszs_w8tQ
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>>147263326
Thanks a lot man, downloading right now
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>>147263326
Does that work for all regions?
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>>147265948
Also is it the patch that's "incomplete" because it just replaces music without looping properly or including the additional tracks that were deleted?
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>>147251790
yeah, get used to that.
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ONE
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>>147267673
MORE
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GOD
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>>147267728
GOD
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>>147268553
>>147268596
REJECTED
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>>147267728
TIME
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GOD
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So is it just in Final that Lucifer was half of Satan or is that just not the real Lucy?
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Hoy.
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Do we have a release date for Apocalypse?
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>>147279428
No.
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Hoy.
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Yoshihiro Nishimura: When he got the request he was surprised because he'd only modeled things for movies. The deal was sealed when they begged him to work with them as fans of his movies. He's not good at drawing so instead crafted sculptures, and he was the only guest artist to do so. He's glad he did because he thinks the finished products look pretty 3D in game. On demon backstories, he explains that mythology has always been a source of inspiration. He says he always asked himself how his grandmother would describe things in a bedtime story and how he could patch together different interpretations of a myth.
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>>147266943
Not completely sure, I think it's the incomplete one though.
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>>147282915
Omoikane: Because Omoikane is supposed to be an intellectual, Nishimura created a monster out of cranial nerves holding generations' worth of scrolls. He aimed for something that didn't quite have a concrete body. Bundling wire to make the sculpture was actually pretty difficult for him. Omoikane is Nishimura's favorite of the demons he created.
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>>147283314
Pluto: When Nishimura imagines "Pluto" he thinks of Astro Boy. But the theme this time is "massive structure" so he created a poison-spewing reactor combined with organic elements. He wanted Pluto to look almost impossible to defeat. Most of Pluto's body is underground and he wanted players to catch onto this. His structural parts especially are supposed to look sinister.
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>>147284306
Yaso Magatsuhi: At first Nishimura imagined him as a giant, but then he decided to give the demon some of his flair and humor. So what we get is a "demon that used to be a big person". Yaso Magatsuhi carries a palanquin and in order to look funny, he was made ugly on purpose. There was trouble on deciding a facial expression to give.
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SMT x DOOM
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Mazurka is too fucking big
I hope Honoo no Fukai is less annoying
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>>147287969
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>>147289757
but that game isn't fast or fun to replay
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Hey /smtg/, I'm from /feg/, yesterday was my birthday, and my friend got me pic related as a B-day gift because he feels it's the best place for me, as an FE fan to start with the series. What should I expect before going in? All I know about this series is, it takes place in Japan, and has demons, i seriously know nothing else.
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>>147290623
>Rescue people fast
>Makoto and doctor are best girls
>Ronaldo a shit

That's it I believe
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>>147290623
Game has a tutorial, battle system based around attacking enemy's weaknesses to elements and monster collection like in Pokemon.

Don't worry about keeping demons around, fuse them into stronger ones and to pass on their skills like children in Fire Emblem except much more frequently.
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SMT x Violence Jack
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Strange Journey's negotiation is the worst thing ever made.
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>>147292818
SJ's piss easy.

Nocturne on the other hand...

I have trouble with SH's as well.
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>>147292942
Nocturne's and SH's are piss easy.
SJ's is just terrible, demons won't stop asking me dumb questions and they rape my boypussy for the slightest mistake.
Also why is every single demon I'm trying to fuse 5 or 6 levels higher than me, I want to fuse shit, I've had all these demons since Atlia.
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>>147292818
Nocturne is worse.

>give me money
>give
>give me more money
>give
>give me more money
>give
>give me more money
>give
>give me Bead
>give
>The demon left

You don't even talk to the demon.
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>>147293293
Try using the Paracelsus sub-app. It uses your demon's current level rather than its base level when fusing. Also, if you know what answer a specific demon likes, keep using that same answer whenever that same demon asks the same question. Don't choose a different answer everytime if you already know what it responded positively to. If it didn't like your response, choose a different one next time it asks that question until you get it right.
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>>147295112
Paracelsus is the only way to fight Mem Aleph without going insane.
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>>147295432
I really wish IV had an equivalent of that app.
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>>147296132
>F/GO will be unplayable on emulator on July 7

Fuck, I'll never get Jeanne Alter.

Back to siding with the forces of Chaos and killing my friends, i guess...
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When will Digital Devil Saga and Devil Summoner get another sale on PSN?

You guys said that they get on sale everytime but I've been waiting for months.
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>find gaia after exploring the entire fucking area
>he takes almost 80k macca from me
asshole
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>>147298407
You don't want the PSN versions. They're full of audio desync, frame drops and other bugs.
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>>147297568
>mfw I never bothered playing the game at all
More money to pay the Altus tax
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>>147299163
Hey, i played F/GO and never gave 'em a single buck.
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>>147276061
Seperate being who represents the same thing but is ultimately YHVH's thrall.

The Lucifers in all other games are seperate characters from him except for IVs.
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>>147299110
They are not. Have you even played them? This shit was fixed years ago and you retards keep posting this.
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>>147299528
How long ago we talking? I played them in Fall of 2014. They were so broken they got me into emulation.
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>>147299581
I played them at the end of 2014 or beginning of 2015 I'm not sure. There was one cutscene in DDS 1 where the audio disappeared. It was at the beginning when Sera sings for the first time or something. Nothing else happened in the entire playthrough.
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>>147299792
That's still a pretty big issue. Why pay for defective things?
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>>147299901
Shit like that happens all the time in PC emulation too, especially for ps2 games.
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>>147299338
Good on you Anon, survive in a world of STR
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automap isn't enough
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>>147301053
And to you as well, buddy.
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>>147301151
I wish we could add details to maps ourselves.
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>>147302447
You can in the superior Debisama
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Fucking found it, finally.

DDS's battle result BGM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68EPM4Wwm8M
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Hoy.
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>>147304940
sup dude
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>>147306796
Good night.
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>>147306837
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Is SMT IV good? I'm considering buying a 3DS only to play IV and maybe Soul Hackers.
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>>147302773
Even the battle result theme is groovy.
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>>147306960
We need more SMT Spurdos
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>>147306960
SUCH IS A SAMOORAI SKILL
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>>147306837
Hoyasuminasai
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Why do people consider P3/4 soundtracks Meguro's magnus opus again?
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>>147308637
Because those are the only games they've played.
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Can we finally agree that Strange Journey has the best OST in the series?
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>>147308637
Because they haven't played the DDS games.
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>>147306960
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>>147309161
I guess the gay furry is the Infernal Akira.
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>>147309203
Infernal Akira is a lawfag though.
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>>147186042
I disagree
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dem titties
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>>147313713''
forgot pic -_-
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>>147302447
I believe some of the newer Atlus games implement that such as Autistic Odyssey
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>>147189089
My Endgame always ends up with MC using each of the 4 spell types to exploit weaknesses, if the enemy has no weaknesses, I Prioritize Zio, then Bufu, then Agi or Garu depending on the Resistance, Null, or Drain. while Aigis and Akihiko Spam Buffs and Debuffs (Debuff Attack, Buff Defense, Debuff Defense, Buff Attack, Debuff Agility, Buff Agility) while Yukari just kind of sticks around for a little extra damage and Group Healing just in case.

Thinking about replacing Yukari with Ken on the next Playthrough, but don't know how I feel about two Zio users and a party member being weak to instant death.
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>>147313920
They do, and it's something I think SMT could borrow and benefit from.
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>>147314404
>Even in SMT, FOE!
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Is there a patch of the SF version of SMT1 with the official translation of the iOS game? I hate the PS1 music and the GBA graphics.
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>>147314682
No
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The tone and visual design of P1 reminds me of those low-budget Slenderman knockoff games that always scare the shit outta me I love it
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>>147314975
It's so different from 3 amd 4 that it kinda feels like a fan made game
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>>147315706
It's so much spookier with the original OST. Especially the last dungeon and boss.
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>>147315706
The real question is: how does it prepare to Persona 2?
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>>147283314
Always knew omoikane is a humanoid brain in Iv

>>147254861
Indeed. The concepts do work for a minor demon, but Dagda is mainly associated with death in Apocalypse so this was the best way to show that.

>>147247060
The concept is very much Maitreya, while Miroku looks like Japanese Buddha. This was clearly the inention despite the Mitra connection. Probably wanted a very clearly villain amongst the group.
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>>147316092
The new music isn't that bad, although sometimes it's doesn't go well with the game
>>147316092
I like how they ditched the grid battles in P2. Also I feel like the negotiations are a lot less random in 2 so it's easier to get what you want. I'm not a fan of the fusion system though, having to get a shit load of cards for one persona is kind of annoying.
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>>147317093
>>147316530
I was trying to also reply to this anon
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Strange Journey 3DS when? Atlus obviously need a "filler" game in 2017.
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WHY WONT YOU DIE?!


First 2 forms, Phys+Pierce is the only efficient way to deal damage


3rd form: Reflect Phys.


YOU MEGIDOLADYNE SPAMMING SON OF A BITCH.

MC has almost all points in STR+VIT, although I do have Naoya for some magical output.

Do I still have a chance against this fucker, or should I get a different build on the next playthrough?
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>>147176371
try snes9x
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SMT IV APOCALYPSE when
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>>147321926
How many weeks must separate the release date of its announcement, at minimum? Is it still possible it's getting out in July?
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>>147284975
Keita Amemiya: When Amemiya got the job offer, he was worried about his style clashing with the series. He took the job after finding out how many others were enlisted on the project. He says he found a certain beauty in MegaTen characters and sought it when sketching. About the demons themselves, he says the concept of weapons, machinery, and other artificial things being open for inclusion in designs made him more interested. He calls Kaneko "the father of form and design" and says he was happy to work on them. With the designs he tried to work organic-looking machinery into the orthodox designs of the demons. He gave the archangels different color schemes to make them stand out from one another. The biggest challenge he faced was ensuring the designs were actually usable in game. Seeing his designs brought to life was thrilling and he'd like to take on such a challenge again.

So that's it for demons. What's left is the interview of Doi and Ishida that I won't bother with since an anon already posted screenshots of it. And then there's commentary on promo art and cutscenes. Are you guys interested in the latter part or satisfied with what's been done?
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Wake up.
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>>147294501
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Not yet.
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Nope.
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>>147300267
1. Buy PS2.
2. Buy the original games.
3. ???
4. Profit!
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>>147331024
You mean a 3DS, since that's what all the Real new Shin Megami Tensei rebirth games are being made for
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>>147331717
Well, more directed at people bitching about how the PSN versions are imperfect(which they are).
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>>147313830
I hope you're playing the PSX music patch version anon
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>>147334330
Patch that doesn't even contain all the tracks and cuts them short is worse than the remade music.
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>>147335542
That's debatable...

Where is this patch, by the way?
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I WILL NOT CRACK
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>>147339542
I'll crack your ass
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I hope everyone can accept that Megaten 2, SMT1, and Debisama are the best games in the series.

Thank you.
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Is there any way to go into my saves for SMT1 and change the names I gave everyone? I'm so bothered by how retarded they are I can't keep playing
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>>147342506
What did you name them?
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>>147343065
I named them after my fetishes, scat and vore
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>>147343769
Sounds pretty cool, what's your problem?
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>>147343769
Did you name Heroine NTR-chan?
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>>147343873
My mom might see it
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Mudo.
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Hoy posters are pretty much sub-human
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FEAR GOD AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM
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>auto attack while grabbing teaware
>come back to this
>didn't save before taking the elevator
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Recarmdra ;_;
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>>147351382
I love you too anon
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>>147350063
Yumiko leveled down? There aren't any skills or anything that can avoid that?
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>>147350063
Good ole' Wizardry
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>>147351820
Nope, it's an unavoidable mechanic that many enemies have in MT.
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>>147352340
It's not too troublesome, is it? Or is it possible for you to go down several levels in one fight?
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>>147352918
It's not so bad if you save frequently. It is possible to lose more than one level in a single fight, but not super likely. I played KMT on with a modded Wii, so I wasn't too ashamed to use save states to avoid that shit.
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>>147353832
Savepoints are fairly frequent then? Or do you have to backtrack everytime you want to save? Either way, it's good to know that you can avoid losing levels to an extent.
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Do I?
I already have the magatama (and necklace).
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>>147354518
Sure
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>>147354298
Save points are pretty infrequent in MTI; it's doable but there is definitely some backtracking or praying you make it to one in time by powering through. It's a fairly unforgiving game. Once you get to the teleporter or trap dungeons it basically screams to be played with save states. MTII is much better about more frequent save terminals and is a lot more 'modern'. Both are amazing games and worth playing though, easily my favorite Megatens. I'm personally very excited for dmanufacture's Famicom MTII translation, I just got an EverDrive in the hopes to play that on it.
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>>147356016
Good to know. Does KMT come before MT or is it the other way around? I think I want to play them in order.
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>>147260739
Best SMT since 2 and SJ. IV and Nocturne are inferior games.
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>>147357594
Do you think that kinda bait's gonna work round these parts?
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>>147357594
>Best SMT since Nocturne, SJ and I. II and IV are inferior games.
Fixed.
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>>147356920
KMT is a Super Famicom compilation/remake collection of the first two Famicom Megaten games. It has some awesome easter eggs and extra features if you start MTII from a MTI save. Most agree that KMT is the definitive way of playing the original two games, the only downside is the soundtrack of MTII sounds way more radical on the Famicom due to the special chip NAMCO used to add enhanced audio to the Famicom. That said, it's not translated yet. The original Megami Tensei on the Famicom is really cool, but it uses like, 30 character passwords for saving and is insanely hard. The KMT version adds real saving and some general 'quality of life' improvements.
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>>147358069
Alright, I'll play KMT first, then MT once MTII is translated. Thanks for the info!
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>>147359295
Good call, and I'm very happy to help. Also, I assume you know this, but the english patch for MTI on the Famicom is very good and will play on the EverDrive and PowerPak. Most emulators have trouble with it, but it plays on the FCEUX emulator on Wii hombrew perfectly.
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best SMT girl coming through
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>>147360175
That's a Persona character.
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>>147360175
>that long as fuck skirt
My least favorite part about Yukino
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>>147360303
There are SMT games that are closer to be "Persona'' games than the actual first Persona game

Was Persona even planned to have a series initially?
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>>147254861
So in short, Nips have shit taste?
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>>147360521
>long as fuck skirt
its called a dress it also reminds me of at hot teacher party member from FF VIII
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>>147290623
Daichi and Hinako are shit until you crack Assasinate and Multistrike, Eva Tier aliens want to erase the world. Yamato is absolute bro tier in Septentirone Arc, Miyako is retard tier in Tri Arc.
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>>147360678
Quistis a shit
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>>147360175
Decent taste, but Elly is still the best. I wanna discuss demonology and watch horror movies with her all night long.
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The SMTIV Final OST link in the pastebin is down, can anyone reupload it or point me to a working link?

Please and thank you.
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>>147360678
>its called a dress
You're telling me that's a one piece outfit?
I though the top was a like a jacket or something
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>>147360153
Didn't know about the emulator problem, thank you.

>>147361265
Give me a few minutes.
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Is it just me or do enemies in honoo no fukai suddenly give fuckall in terms of macca and mag? Suddenly with only 2 demons summoned I lose more mag than I make, and it's taking forever to make up what Gaia took so I can buy the new weapons and armor.
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>>147361542
On second thought you might be right. I didn't grow up with sisters so in my mind ''long skirt" = dress
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>>147361212
What did you think of her EP design?
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>>147362271
Ruined.
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>>147362271
Get the hell outta here coconut head
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>>147362271
I liked her just fine in EP, other than missing her long hair. Her dungeon made me a bit depressed though, especially after I realized that I'm not too diferent from her or her stalker shadow when it comes to becoming attached to people that may not even feel the same way. That game struck too close to home, sometimes.
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>>147361265
Here you go: https://mega.nz/#F!D1pRkQwb!67Qdfjan8O9cENCPw3vfPA
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>>147364628
Thanks, you are the best.
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>>147323483
I'm gonna assume no cares to see anything else then. Guess that means I'm done summarizing stuff from IV's artbook.
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>>147366609
I'd like to hear the promo art commentary. Is what you've posted in a pastebin?
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>>147367193
http://pastebin.com/F6dn4Pj0
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>>147367371
Neat, thanks!
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Hoy.
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>>147370358
Sup Kagura
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>>147370358
Can I save this?
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>>147370802
Sure.

>>147370538
Yo, buddy. Still Alive?
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>>147370959
>Still Alive?
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>>147370358
Full pic where get? Google no helping...
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>>147370959
Thank you.
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>>147371462
>this is a Japanese demon buster
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>>147371462
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>>147371745
>>147371909
That's uh, quite a bust there
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>>147371745
>>147371909
Hoy! you have my thanks!
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>>147372102
SMT x Senran Kagura
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>>147373402
>Sen Megami Tensei
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SMT x Castlevania
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>>147373402
spinoff when? we already got idol shit, tittyninjas shouldn't be too far of a stretch
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>>147373618
>mfw you can basically call Senran Kagura 2 "Shin Kagura Tensei" and the title is 100% accurate
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>>147373402
Only if the best girl is in it.
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>>147373402
Fund it, I wanna see Kat grope some demon titties.
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>>147375143
Wrong pic?
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>>147375263
nice tastes
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>>147375263
Ryona is just an useless slut.

I would prefer a real Angel demon in my party.
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>>147375474
>Ryona is just an useless slut.
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>>147375474
>Ryona is just an useless slut.
Guns tho
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>>147375558
>two different colored eyes
is she a Mary Sue as well?
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>>147375705
She's a pig slut.
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>>147375705
She and her sister have funny eyes, but their older sister doesn't.
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>finally beat smt iv after 40 hours
>choose chaos and get a shitty 30 sec cliff hanging ending
>watch neutral ending on YouTube and see that they get a 10 minute cinematic

Fuck that shit nigga. I don't even get to bang lucifer in female form.
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>>147362271
Never in human history has a long haired woman looked better short-haired. It's always a great loss.
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weren't we supposed to get a release date for SMTIV:A this week? What the fuck happened?
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>>147371745
Funny that the yoma are Law aligned.

Perhaps them killing and eating humans is God's will.
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>>147378297
I take it you didn't like P2 Maki
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>>147335542
way better then listening to that lackluster j-pop, it wasnt even decent like p3 and fit P1 game horribly

>>147336627
used to be in the OP every thread but retards kept making the thread and deleting it

here you go bro
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wbz6rpqrqt0pfqb/P1P+Music+Patch+Beta+v1.iso
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>>147382686
I'd much rather get the normal soundtrack even if it's mediocre (it's really not, just doesn't fit), than tracks that don't even loop properly because they are cut short, and no fix for the deleted tracks. If I cared that much I'd just play the PS1 version anyway.
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>>147358069
the KMT version of MT2 is way better then Famicom MT2 in every way, incluiding music, stop lying to this poor soul

>>147359295
just play both games in KMT for fucks sake
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>>147360562
true, persona 1 is megaten as fuck

it's basically smt if... reimagined
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>>147382841
unless you could play the japanese version i seriously dont see how playing the ps1 version would be a upgrade, and you'd be missing all the neat updates anyways

and even if the tracks dont loop properly sometimes its mostly fine, works surprisingly well for a beta patch, plus the few tracks from the OG that fit into the music patch are much better then anything from the new OST
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>>147383492
I can play it in Japanese, but for my first time playing through it I'll probably just play the regular psp version. I would patch it but it's too half assed.
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>>147383630
you shoulf play the way you find optimal but personally i find the music patched version to be the best version of P1 we have, its not half-assed most songs loop just fine
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Is there any way to determine which demon's have Dark/Light Alignment in SMT1 so I know which ones not to bother talking to?
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>>147384529
Certain races are Dark/Light. If you really need to, just go look up the race chart and remember which are dark. You won't really find too many Light demons, they're primarily from fusion.
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>tfw realising I accidentally used my skill release addon a few days back in-game in Record Breaker
>tfw realising that I won't be able to fuse a perfect Purple Mirror despite being able to pass Phys/Force Repel to it
Guys, how do I cope with loss of this magnitude?
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>>147384768
So, every demon from a certain race will be the same alignment? That makes things easy, thanks for the help.
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>>147384929
Stop being a nerd
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>>147385209
I don't know how to do that.
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SUNDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKER
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>>147361592
That dungeon was painful. Just power through.
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Is Persona for PSP a 30-40 hour game like the later Persona entries?
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>>147390386
Solid 40 for the main quest, a good 15~ for the bonus story.
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>>147390386
>bonus story
Snow Queen?
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>>147390531
meant for >>147390464
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>>147390531
Yeah, I actually haven't beaten it yet because my PSP buttons died and I haven't bothered to get a replacement.
>>
Xanadu
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Playing, SMT4 on chaos path, is there any way to get back to Mikado once you can access Purgatorium?
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>>147394756
Nope.
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>>147394824
Welp. I was wanting to get the white king armor. Got the legs from some quest, and it looks cool, and I'm tired of wearing the black demonica all the time.
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Hoy.
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>>147396803
I'd help you bump but there's a Tails Gets Trolled thread on /v/
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Is there anyway to emulate SMT IV? It's impossible for me to get a 3ds currently and i've wanted to play it ever since it came out. No progress made with 3ds emulation yet?
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>>147398091
It's slowly progressing
https://citra-emu.org/
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>>147398091
3ds emulation is progressing incredibly well considering how short of a time ago it started. It can already run a lot of games, however, it is still incredibly slow and sound support has only recently been added. I am waiting to play SMT 4 too.

Check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdbT59TDqtI
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>Famitsu recently conducted a poll to determine what sort of Koei Tecmo Warriors/Musou collaboration fans would like to see.

>In terms of games, Fire Emblem was ranked third. Final Fantasy and Shin Megami Tensei also made the list.

>9. Shin Megami Tensei – “Get in touch with us anytime.” (Producer Kazuyuki Yamai)

Fairy genocide simulator when?
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>>147399027
I like Warriors games, but I'm not sure how I feel about SMT musou.
I don't think it really has distinct characters that lend themselves to that kind of game like FE does.
Nanoha musou when?
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>>147399027
How would that work?

We play as demons?

I don't think i want SMT protags pulling crazy moves.

Most of them being plain humans who just use swords and guns and can't jump really high or attack in high speeds is part of the charm, no?
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>>147398946
That's not too bad, i might give it a shot. Last time i was here was like 3 years ago. Still upset that kaneko didn't do the art assets. What's up with him by the way?
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>>147399552
>Demifiend blasting through hordes with his skills
>DDS cast using grenade launchers, guns, and tearing into enemies as demons, switching between at will
>SMTIV cast using demon skills and overpowered DEX skills
>SMTI / II cast acting as a team, summoning demons for super moves
>DeSu casts using large scale magic as overpowered as Arioch in Drakengard
>summoning and fusing demons of your choice to act as your captains
>Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series

It'd be fun.
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SMT x Gundam
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>>147400710
SMT x Persona. SMT characters in high school, Persona characters in apocalyptic hellholes.
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>>147400710
I'd play it
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Seriously disappointed with how easy Strange Journey is. Just got to Fornax and ouroboros was the only remotely challenging thing in the game and resources are overtly abundant.
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>>147400710
Replace gundam with Armored Core.

>>147401041
Will the SMT characters shoot up the place and let their demons go on a rampage?
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>>147401287
No, they do Persona stuff.
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>>147401287
>Replace gundam with Armored Core.
I'm just watching Gundam 0079 right now is all.
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>>147399027
I know this isn't the general for it but I'd play the shit out of a FF musou
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>>147401041
>SMT characters in a mostly peaceful situation with light comedy and hijinks
>Happy endings for everyone

>Persona characters murdering each other to assert dominance on the fate of the world
>P1/2 protag finally sees his friends again only to see them die, some by his hands
i haven't actually played p1/2 but that's what I vaguely remember

>>147401287
Would Karasawa and the other lasers/plasma guns count as Almighty?
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>>147401821
>P1/P2
>mostly peaceful situation with light comedy and hijinks
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>>147401928
You know in any kind of crossover the theme is going to be P4.
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>>147402261
I haven't played P4 but is it really that worthy of so many spinoffs?
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>>147402997
It prints money, "worthy" doesn't factor into things.
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>>147403060
is there anything besides moe-ness and it being shonen as fuck that makes it print money? Any redeeming qualities like the sad parts there were in P3?
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>>147400710
SMT X Neon Genesis Evangelion

>use Evas to fight demons and angels
>DDS style gameplay with 3 party members
>swords (prog knife), guns, and AT-field magic
>choose between Law (accept Instrumentality, make all mankind's souls into one, man becomes closer to God), Neutral (refuse Instrumentality, people regain individuality, society eventually returns to normal) and Chaos (take control of Instrumentality and become a new god)
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Just beat Seth. I guess I can leave the bottomless pot for later and move on to Infini Palace?
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Do people really think SMT demons are on the power level of Gundams / NEXTs / EVA units?
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>>147404506
>power level
you mean as in creating destruction or do you mean they're on the spectrum?
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/smtg/ x /m/
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>>147404826
Xenogears?
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>>147404670
Both? All of those are radically overpowered.
SMT demons can be defeated by essentially slightly upgraded humans. Even God can be defeated by some level grinding schmuck with a nice sword.
Gundams have crazy bullshit like psychic levels of prediction and reaction time not even bringing up stuff like Bits, NEXTs are just ungodly fast and powerful and the pilots are basically Newtypes as well, EVA units are potentially world ending threats and basically have Null: All.

I'd have a hard time believing a humanoid size demon's Null:Phys would work on cannon slugs the size of a car or similar.
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>>147389263
I think you're right, just got past it and I'm just grabbing the strongest equipment left and right with maxed magnetite now. Not yet into the meat of the dungeon but still kinda funny.
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>>147404952
Not the guy you're responding to but I've just finished it actually. Great game, nothing to complain.
Choosing alignments would've been pretty nice, I guess.
I wish more JRPGs would let you choose between equal endings (because if they do, there's a heavily favored true ending most of the time, with the others being undeniably bad in comparison, a few MT games suffer from this too unfortunately)
Whitefag, neuter and Hikawa in pic related.
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Would you guys be interested in an SMT (not persona) Skype or Discord group? If so which would you prefer?
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>>147406075
I'd rather you kill yourself
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>>147406075
You're better off asking that in the megaten reddit. You're better off there in general. Please leave.
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>>147406109
Why do you hate making friends?
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>>147406075
I have shit internet so I've never partaken in those groups in other generals anyways

>>147406109
recarm
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>Just Started playing P4G
How long should it take to complete the game?
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>>147406075
What's with this meme of every general, every board, creating a fucking discord or skype group?

>>147406179
>Why do you hate making friends?
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>>147406169
I think reddit already made a Discord and it sucked. I'm not joining that.
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>>147406075
No, I have /smtg/ to discuss that shit. Kill yourself.
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>>147406247
Literal reddit retards who think they're too kewl for reddit but want to pollute threads with reddit garbage
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>>147406179
>friends
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>>147406270
the only subreddit I ever visit is /r/Metroid; they're eternally salty and have discord and can't imagine what its like in there
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>>147400710
>law route involves gassing spacenoid filth
>chaos has you drop a colony on Earth with the help of a masked blond man
>neutral is Understanding

I want this, anon.
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>>147406409
It felt nice and sad when Jimenez gave the MC a rare forma before he left for sector Grus.
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>>147406207
the original P4 on the PS2 was about 60 hours of pure mediocrity. Gold has a bunch of extra stuff, so you can probably add some 5+ hours on top of that.

>>147404996
A game like that would need to buff up the demons to make them stand up to the mechs. Of course nobody would want a game about Eva-01 stepping on poor Pixies and Jack Frosts.

There is this one text in judaism that mentions Moses hanging out with the angels, he says that it would take 5 hundred years to cover the length of Samaels body and that isn't even the highest ranking angel. Imagine fighting something like that.
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>>147407667
>it would take 5 hundred years to cover the length of Samaels body and that isn't even the highest ranking angel
this is unsettling to me
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>>147408262
It's ok, even Moses was scared shitless. Metatron confirmed for total bro, though.

In the last heaven Moses saw two angels, each five hundred parasangs in height, forged out of chains of black fire and red fire, the angels Af, "Anger," and Hemah, "Wrath," whom God created at the beginning of the world, to execute His will. Moses was disquieted when he looked upon them, but Metatron embraced him, and said, "Moses, Moses, thou favorite of God, fear not, and be not terrified," and Moses became calm. There was another angel in the seventh heaven, different in appearance from all the others, and of frightful mien. His height was so great, it would have taken five hundred years to cover a distance equal to it, and from the crown of his head to the soles of his feet he was studded with glaring eyes, at the sight of which the beholder fell prostrate in awe. "This one," said Metatron, addressing Moses, "is Samael, who takes the soul away from man." "Whither goes he now?" asked Moses, and Metatron replied, "To fetch the soul of Job the pious." Thereupon Moses prayed to God in these words, "O may it be Thy will, my God and the God of my fathers, not to let me fall into the hands of this angel."
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>>147403156
Why are sad parts "redeeming"?
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>>147409003
they were mostly unexpected and break from the usual campiness
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>>147409003
All value stems from suffering.
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>>147409128
I agree, but that doesn't mean that putting sad bits in a game makes it better for that reason. That's a wrong way to assess things. That's a mechanism of how real things work. Depictions of physical laws in something also doesn't mean that that thing partakes in their complexity and value. P3 is probably not good enough in its depiction of a tragedy either to make itself noted by that. As games they're probably roughly as good.
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Hee-Ho
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>>147409735
It works that way in fiction too. There's no value in an overly happy story. It's mental masturbation, empty escapism. If I wanted that I'd play a game that didn't even have a story focus.
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Imagine if you got hit by the egg beam for DDS and you ended up as Jack frost
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>>147410283
I want to be a cute Lilim.
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Does Strange Journey get any harder anytime soon? I fucked up Orcus just now, and the only juicy part so far was Ouroboros. Rest was 2easy
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>>147410470
Grus and Horologium can be pretty nasty, but if you could handle Eridanus you can handle them, they're not that much harder.

Strange Journey isn't so much ridiculously hard as it is consistent in its difficulty scaling. Each sector is roughly harder than the last, instead of being imbalanced.

Mem Aleph is a real pain though.
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>>147410559
What do you think is the hardest SMT? Nocturne has always been the star for me but im getting to 45~ (hard) and it's smoothing out too much for my liking. I want my balls whipped.
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>>147410335
gay man
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>>147410470
How is that dick plate not falling off?
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>>147410670
Of the mainline series, Strange Journey because it's the hardest to break with overpowered crap.

I imagine if you go back to some clunky late 80s games some of them may be harder, but I haven't played them.
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>>147410853
It's an idealistic design you philistine. Dick plates ideally don't fall off so you don't accord for that.
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>>147410865
>because it's the hardest to break with overpowered crap.

That's an interesting way to look at it. Strange Journey, i thought, is way easier than most SMT stuff i've played. I get to a new area and im auto-ing pretty much every encounter from the get go. You can't do that in nocturne because if you get reflected that's a serious risk, and if not an unnecessary loss of resource. You barely get punished for your weaknesses and similarly aren't rewarded sufficiently for exploiting weaknesses. The hallmark of difficulty (even though smt stuff is really only hard if you're a retard) has always been heavy punishment for doing wrong stuff. Nocturne sometimes is seriously frightening to play.Honestly the press system should be kept throughout every single release except persona.
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Are there any SMT fan games made? I remember an anon a couple of years ago that said he was working on one and released a demo here. There really should be ones in the vein of the classical sprite portrait games, it doesn't sound very hard to make comparatively speaking.
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>>147411610
that sounds like a fun side project I'd be interested in, though I'm complete shit at art
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>>147411610
both of the ones out of SMTG are ded
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>>147411832
What art, just reuse assets. One of the facilities of something like this is that every game shares the same stock. I mean you would need someone to do some artwork but not nearly as much as you would for any other sort of game.
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>>147411970
you're right, I'm a fucking idiot who just auto-replies stuff like that. On a serious note, I'm usually only good at backend programming so a battle system would be neat but I have fuckall idea how to do that using GM
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>>147411315
nocturne is only hard to play because people don't do mage builds
if you do a mage build your magic defense is sufficiently high enough to tank attacks for most of the game, only lucifer is harder as a mage
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>Just found out i can't buy guns/ammo until the end of the game with the AG patch of smt1

Fuck
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>>147411970
I miss Teddy. His fangame and art looked great.
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Give me the rarest and best Jack Frost related pictures you have, it's important.
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Reminder that Kaneko is a deity of design
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>>147383492
>i seriously dont see how playing the ps1 version would be a upgrade


You'd be surprised.
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>>147414132
What did Atlus USA mean by this?
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>>147414132
those colors are FUG'd yo
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>>147414162
White people are the human image of truth
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>>147414132
I played through the PSP version of this earlier and I can't remember exactly what it said; maybe something to do with zombies or being gray?
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>>147367371
>can't have MegaTen without obelisks
Neat. Thanks for your work. Reminds me of why I like hanging around the one in Shibuya on IMAGINE.
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Wake up.
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>>147417407
LET ME SLEEP PLEASE
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>>147418440
No.
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>>147418440
Are you a man, half human?
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Some of you may have seen my post on here the other day about how I'm from /feg/, and my friend got me Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker as he thought that'd be the best start to the series. Holy shit, this game is fucking awesome. The plot is great, the maps feel a lot like FE maps just with demons instead of generic enemy units, why did I not buy this earlier?
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>>147420920
I'm glad you're having fun anon-kun.

I still need to play the other routes, but I'm waiting till I can replace my 3DS cause I wanna do it on Record Breaker.
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>>147420920
Play Overclocked afterwards if you want a better plot, though a small step down from gameplay.
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>>147420920
Should have played the first one before RB
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>>147421353
RB is his favorite, and he told me to start with it.
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>>147421353
>>147421491
I'd agree that 2 is the better entrygame tbH
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>>147421337
>tfw I like DeSu 1 gameplay more than 2 and I haven't played OC

I mean yeah, mechanically 2 is an improvement, but I just found so many of the encounters in 2 so tedious, especially the Septentrione fights.

>lol let's just make it so that the bosses can snipe you from halfway across the map

I fucking hate how in DeSu enemies attacking you pushes you back on the turn order, those fights took forever because of that, shit was so frustrating.

And don't even get me started on that Yamato boss fight.

Still a great game though, don't get me wrong.
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>>147421491
Oh, also I can't get Overclocked anyway. He specifically got me a $50 eshop card to get Record Breaker, and now I have $8 on my eshop account, mainly cause of the tax on the eShop.
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>>147421874
What a terrible friend
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SMT x Zero Escape
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>>147422598
Sure is tempting to go chaotic for the bad ends.
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Chakara Drop x4
Chakara Pot x2
>Revival Bead x10
Balm of Rising x1
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>>147415356
think it's like "but im not a zombie"
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>>147406075
Discord sucks and so do you.
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>>147420830
I AM TIRED AS HEART AND PERSON WEAKEN
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Should i just bite the bullet and play Eternal Punishment PS1?
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>>147423816
I've maxed out my Beads thanks to the sweet Extra Item and Friend Item apps. Too bad you can't combine those to create Bead Chains instead.
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>>147405824
>I've just finished it actually.
More than can be said of Squaresoft :^)
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>tfw doi is is pretty much confirmed to be kaneko 2.0 but newfags on the dev team hold him back
Just kill me.
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>Finally got dream team.
Wish I could have found a better demon that Reflect/Drain Ice and Electric though.
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>just found out Soul Hackers negotiation dialogue was censored the fuck up
I regret ever giving this company any money or attention.
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>>147435870
Just learn Japanese and play the JP version
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>>147433120
I thought it was oldfags on the team that wanted every game to be a rehash of SMT1 that also sperged out about calling SJ SMTIV when it doesn't take place in Tokyo. Regardless that retarded faction needs to go.
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Hi. Fire emblem here. Why are you shitting up our series?
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>>147436723
Fuck off and die you miserable idol-smegma eating shitstain and take your Lucina bitch with you
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What do you want from DeSu3?
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>>147437008
Competent writers for once
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>>147436435
>The development team, which was dubbed Team Maniacs, included both staff who had worked on previous Shin Megami Tensei titles and newer staff who had not. There were differences in thinking between the two, which led to conflicts. As an example of this, game director Kazuyuki Yamai said that some of the staff would be used to contemporary games featuring "sweet" female characters who "say nice things", and as a result would want to add that "sweetness" to Shin Megami Tensei IV; meanwhile, Yamai saw the series as having "bitter" content, and thought that it would not be possible to add "sweetness" to it. Additionally, the staff members had differing images of the meaning of Shin Megami Tensei; Yamai thought that the good points of each staff member's interpretation should go into the aspects of the game they were in charge of, while not deviating from the "bitterness".

Straight from wikipedia. Waifutards ruin everything
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>>147436905
Haha singing idols? Isnt that from you cunts?
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>>147437193
heh. I agree.
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>>147438634
No, you're thinking of Persona general, go ask them
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>>147438794
...oh. Alright my bad.
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>>147437008
Yasuda.
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>>147432776
I wonder how the other episodes would've played. Would've loved to see more of Kim but the most interesting episodes would probably have been II and VI. I from a gameplay perspective.

>>147435870
Really? Do you have any examples?

>>147438358
No, the people who completely change the tone of a series (despite having quite a few spin-offs perfectly suitable for that) only because they smell money are the ones at fault.
This changed my view about Yamai a little bit. I was really biased against him after IV and above all Final.
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>Flynn... Yes, I've heard it all from Isabeau...
>About God's chariot, and what became of Jonathan...
>Flynn... This is merely my own opinion, but growing up means choosing one's friends.
>As your life grows busier, your time to spend with friends lessens. So you cling to those you feel comfortable with...
>Rather than spend your precious idle moments with those who do not share your views.
>I may be doing a poor job of explaining myself... I just wanted to say that you needn't feel disappointed in yourself.
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Seriously though SMTIV looks like shit. Like visually the character/demon designs are trash. I just saw the apocalypse thing and this wouldn't even slide for persona. How is it gameplay wise?
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>>147441424
https://youtu.be/11Ee0lmGgjQ?t=955
Ignore the nigga's voice.
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>>147441528
>29:55
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>>147441669
Oh my fuck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T98vMLduWjA
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>>147441424
I understand where you're coming from, but i simply can't hate Toki's design, i just like it way too much.
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Oh my fuck.
This guy is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T98vMLduWjA
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>>147441528
lol did he just use a revival bead on the protag in a direct smt sequel?
At least it's not down the drain difficulty wise, from the looks of this. I heard it's pretty hard early on. What did you think of the difficulty?
honestly about 20% of this is me not being able to play it but for real i hope you guys dont think the designs look "okay". Kaneko is like yoji shinkawa is for mgs/zoe
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>>147441528
>>147441669
>>147441821
He's kinda funny but his voice literally hurts.
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>>147442881
Who cares about the demon art of some you'll never even fucking use.
Just play the game and use the demons you want. It literally doesn't matter.

As for difficulty it hard until you reach Tokyo.
The hardest non DLC bosses are Minotaur, Medusa and Beelzbub.
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>>147442879
Literally unwatchable
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>>147442879
>10:41
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>>147442879
>Oh my god I am done I can't do this no more!
Why are niggers so funny?
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>>147443018
>Who cares about the demon art of some you'll never even fucking use.

What are you talking about? More than half the game looks like shit, characters all look bad. If you wouldn't care about that what's worth caring about?
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>>147430248
Yes, the PS1 version is good, other than a few characters still using their Revelations names and not being able to import your Tatsuya from IS. Worth playing.
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>>147443719
>characters all look bad.
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>>147443821
They look like shit dude. Not because they aren't bleak enough for the record i think P2 through 5 have good art assets. These just look like shit. The demon designs are overcrowded frivolous nonsense that use surface kaneko motifs and retards can either barely tell the difference by only the mascara eyes/black lips or can't tell who the fuck did what if they don't have that to do by. If you think merkaba and Seraph are both "cool" you're a faggot and you need to stop talking about drawings because you basically blind... Like me for instance im a fucking pig when it comes to food, not that i eat too much but i eat things i know would taste like shit had i had more agency when it comes to the sense of taste. Knowing this i don't go round telling gourmets so to speak, what's what.
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>>147443821
Flynn and Bobo look stupid.
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>>147445008
>P2 good art assets
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>>147439609
I personally wonder how the existing Xenogears game would have played had it been completed
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>>147445172
That's another thing, what kind of name is Flynn? Sounds like a FF character name. I'm sure there are tons of youtube kingdom hearts channel handles that are like "Vaan" for no reason
God help the real smt prevail and defeat this faggot trash.
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>>147445008
tl;dr
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>>147445658
It's Irish you retarded prick.

>God help the real smt prevail and defeat this faggot trash.
top kek
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>>147445520
good point
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>>147439609
I believe that shitposter is referring to the original Japanese negotiation dialogue being famously bland and boring by SMT standards, and the localization improved on it. Censorshitposting is the new flavor of the month thanks to most of /v/ being Nintendo-oriented.
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>>147446106
>thanks to most of /v/ being Shitposting-oriented.
Fixed.
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I hope you fags are cooking some burgers
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>>147446106
I was asking because I only own the Japanese version and was interested in the changes.
I can assure you that the dialogue is not bland and boring, also from the screenshots I've seen getting posted here (like the Soul Hackers one), there's no "improvement" from the localization side although I haven't compared them directly and played the game for a while.

Since none of you have provided examples, I guess I shouldn't take you seriously. Above all with the console war shit you're trying to pull here.
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Are you enjoying the new age of Smug Megami Tensei /smtg/?
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I am a shadow... the true self...
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>>147447704
some people will try to justify localization changes even when they are not qualified because they don't know Japanese and it makes them feel bad to think that the version they're playing is inferior.
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>>147448658
Which is completely understandable, what I don't understand however is how a human is able to call SH's negotiation bland and boring when the Devil Summoner games have one of the best negotiations in the franchise.
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Soul Hackers is a bland pile of garbage and shouldn't even be discussed here, it was overhyped by people that never played it before the 3DS release. Strange Journey improves on just about every system present.
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>>147448613
memes and salt aside, is this any good? the RPG and stat elements look fun even if the plot concept seems boring at face value to me.
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>>147437008
Mainly graphical improvements, the gameplay is fine exactly as is.
>Keep the game mostly 2d.
>Better field sprites at least on the level of the ones in Persona 2.
>More detailed maps.
>Port over the animated sprites from Smt4 Final over.
>Maybe give the player the ability to cast field spells like boss enemies.
>Keep the music composer for 2.
I liked that Desu 2 was more of it's own thing rather than a Smt remake, the daily invaders was a cool concept. The fate system actually made talking to characters more enjoyable and I hope that they retain Persona influences like that.
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>>147448913
>bland pile of garbage and shouldn't even be discussed here
where did soul hackers hurt you, anon
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I didn't know about the stat requirement for hi no kagutsuchi no tsurugi and need to grind 2 levels now, oops.
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>>147453540
>tumblr
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>>147446764
Hell yeah, we got the grill working that we haven't used since before my father died
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>DeSu 1 is STILL 35 euros
>Last sale was in Christmas
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>>147448913
>calls Soul Hackers a bland pile of garbage
>praises Strange Journey
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>>147451074
I've put about 15 or so hours into it, I'm on chapter 4.
It's okay, it's fun to chain bigass combos together.
The plot is nothing special at all, 100% power of friendship stuff so far.

Pirate it so nobody sees money for the butchery they call a "localization"
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Hoy.
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>>147454786
anon it's 2016, caring about file sources is passe
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>>147431368
Top-hee kek-ho.
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>>147458295
>Not having autism
>2016
SMTG is a kingdom of heaven thank you
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Megami Tensei spoiler
>literally nothing
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>>147461138
Forgot to spoiler image h e h
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How should I distribute stats in Megaten 2? Can I dump all 15 in strength/intelligence and prioritize this way like in 1? I know Nakajima needs 20 int, and I heard that int is more important in 2, but not sure if I'm going to get fucked over holding off on giving him points in it (and defense).
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>>147466425
Hoy
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>>147404996
Belberith Drains elec which is why God's Thundera nd the final option weren't used to destroy Tokyo on Yuzu's 8th Day. He'd drain it all.
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>>147396803
>Hoy
es el cuatro de Julio
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>>147461310
Yeah, MT1 had basically no story but the gameplay was great.
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>>147446764
I ate pizza while watching Dragon Ball Z. Take that, America!
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>>147451074
Story is kinda standard anime shit. The actual gameplay is great though. Feels just like a modern MegaTen. Pretend it's Digital Devil Saga 3, where all the character's reincarnations grew up to be idols. Or something.
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>>147471027
This is not the DDS3 I wanted. There isn't even futa.
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>>147471432
>he doesn't know best girl is a futa

Well, she is if you believe.
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>>147471642
Are these character models similar to what P5 is going to look like?
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>>147472351
Kinda, yeah. You can tell they reused some of the assets between the two games.
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>>147472351
Not really.

There'd never be tits that big in Persona ;_;
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjOo3gVFusE

Here's a pretty cool Nocturne trailer.
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>>147472763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlJrEwEMIpM
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>>147474479
We can vote for... SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI NOCTORNE
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>>147474741
SMT 3 Make Tokyo Great Again
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>>147471027
eh, going in with the right mindset I can enjoy anime shit Tales series is a huge guilty pleasure so I'll give it a go. thanks anons
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Post your favorite demon and how you customized it in IV.
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>>147475661
Never played TalesOf but have been contemplating picking one up. I asked awhile back and someone told me they weren't weeb.

Are suggesting they lied to me?
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>>147476407
it's the weebest non compile heart series in existence
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>>147476407
Maybe not lied but different definition of weeb? It's not like Compile Hearts/NIS/Idea Factory, but they're all pretty... adventure-animeish. Kind of less modern weeb, more 90's weeb. Extremely JRPG basically. I've got a huge fondness for the series but there are mixed opinions about it for a reason.
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Hoy.
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Anyone here still looking forward to Caligula?
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>>147482857
What.
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In DeSu 1, is Black Frosts fire/ice repel worth the force weakness and 3 move?
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>>147216237
Pardon my moon, but does that say "outdoor poltergeist?"
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>>147482937
>What.
Did I miss something?
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>>147484224
Gedou literally means "against the teachings" or heresy. Interestingly the kanji is also used for the concept of Tirthika, or one who does not follow Buddhist teachings.
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Is there a "correct" way to play Devil Survivor? Should I grind enough money to buy all or most of the demons in the auction, fuse them, let time pass and then grind once more and do the same thing until the day ends?
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>>147485240
The correct way is to always fuse the best demons that you can fuse. The thing with DeSu is that damage received is based on level as well as stats, meaning even your best demons will last maybe 10 levels at most before they simply start taking too much damage.
Always keep your demons up-to-date in DeSu games.
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Is it possible to revive demons at the start of MT2 (after beating Minotaur)? Not much use for transferred demons when they're dead.
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>>147487881
Also I just reset and the battle music changed, what the hell.
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>>147487981
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Are we likely to ever get another Trauma Center/Team game? Or has Atlus abandoned it completely?
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So i just started playing p3 and ihave to ask whats the deal with the guns and why does yuzu freak out over using them if theyre just blanks?
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>>147491271
>yuzu
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>>147491224
Were the Trauma games related to MegaTen in any way or just dev'd by ALTUS?
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>>147491584
if what you're meaning to say is if this question has anything to do with this general, not really. but this is as close as there is to an "Atlus games general", so i decided to ask it here. they're on different universes.
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>>147491781
I almost wrote in my original comment that I wasn't implying that at all, but then I figured no one would point it out.

I honestly couldn't care less what gets discussed here as long as its interesting. I thought I might have missed something with the Trauma games though since I never picked one up
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>>147493562
l e w d
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>>147455030
He's right though.
Playing Soul Hackers felt like playing JRPG version of Fable.
It had a lot of extra shit that had barely anything to do with the core game, which was laughably easy.
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>>147493562
what's uh, going on in this image?
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>>147494458
The work of the lord
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>>147476004
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>>147493562
Why can't Amane afford underwear, is the shomonkai budget so tight?
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Tell me all the loli demons. I want to make a team out of them.
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>>147499954
Do pixies count? I want to say they don't seem like they're "for lewd" but some horny asshole is bound to prove me wrong
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>>147502086
I meant loli demons like Alice.
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>Playing SMT II
>Been doing nothing but backtracking for the last couple hours

Jesus, you guys weren't kidding, the backtracking is fucking awful. Please don't tell me this is what I'll be doing for the rest of the game.
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>>147502142
Moh Shuvuu is an obvious choice
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>>147504493
>even has "moe" in the name
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>>147499954
Alice, Moh Shuvuu, and Nadja.
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>>147504493
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>Buy DDS1 on PSN
>Get to the part about mantra
>think oh cool a skill tree I guess I can just get whatever
>Buy Sereph Electric skills
>Buy Agrilla Force skills
>No idea how to equip them

ok how did I fuck up
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>>147506201
You have to fight and preferably devour enemies until the bar fills and the mantra is mastered. Then you get the skills and can buy another mantra further down the line.

By the way, DDS has some issues on PSN. It's nothing gamebreaking but if you can easily emulate it or play the PS2 version I'd recommend restarting that way.
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>>147506201
You have to get karma by killing/eating demons to learn the skills first.
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>>147506420
>>147506410
oh that explains it then, thanks

wait if thats the case, can I literally just buy a ton of skills for a character and when their atma bar(or is it the regular level up bar?) reaches maximum they'll unlock all the skills I've bought?
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>>147507047
You can only make progress towards one mantra at a time. If you master a mantra you have to to go to a save point and buy/download another to start making progress towards it.

The atma/mantra and experience/karma system are completely separate. If you want decent atma points you need to use devouring skills on weakened enemies.
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>>147491584
The Healing Touch ability comes from Asclepius, the god of medicine. You could pretend it's MegaTen related.
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>>147507286
I understand now, thanks a bunch anon!
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>>147507387
Oh, by the way, sell the solar cells you find at maximum solar noise for more money. Except for the Jack cell which you sell at minimum.

This only applies to DDS1, they removed that annoyance in the sequel.
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>>147507493
didnt know that either thanks

I wish the game explained alot of its mechanics more
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>>147508872
>Megami Crossing
I didn't know I needed this until now.
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>>147510427
What personality type would your favorite demon have in Megami Crossing?
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>>147510778
Calm or the "energetic" one
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>>147476004
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>>147511646

>Absorbs or nulls everything

Damn, that's nice. I need to try to make me something like that when I play SMT IV.
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>>147491457
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>>147512854
>tfw yuzukari
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>>147511646
FUWAH
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>>147512330
Yeah, it's pretty fun her sisters aren't that aesthetically fused though.
Tried a different approach in Final and used that party for the whole second playthrough. Last boss was the only one I couldn't beat because of the HP.
Registering a demon after a playthrough and seeing how much the stats have increased is really nice (can't remember if I that was the stat increase of the whole run or if I had registered them before already).
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>I'll never have a demon girlfriend
I should just kill myself. Or something.
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>>147517417
Why is there so few art of her.
Post more Asherah.
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>>147517417
Why not summon one?
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These fucking FLIES around me everywhere
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>>147517721
I'll have to try that after I eat my cocoa puffs.
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>>147517773
Back to bed with you Belzaboul
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>>147518013
https://youtu.be/goVKHHZc8zM?t=14m20s
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Anyone got a link to the PS1 version of this? Can't find it.
https://youtu.be/TQvKV0l1RS0
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>>147518238
What the fuck is this
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>>147518553
You telling me you don't daisy?
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>>147518432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qiGCqRGsek
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>>147518684
Never mind i found it, i was looking for the rengedai version it turns out. Thanks.
https://youtu.be/U2B2hMPUYfU?t=3h18m31s
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Those who live creating as I, occasionally travel into worlds unseen by laymen...A special world beyond the sleepless days.
And it can be seen right there. A blue door called the Velvet Room.
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In DDS1 should I focus on getting Hunting Skills? Everyone in my current group has devour but I'm missing out on spells which is leading to me not being able to hit some enemies in their weakness

I'm only like 3 hours in though
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What the fuck is an "Aesthetician"???
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I NEED to bareback the aoba rosa candida shop clerk
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>>147519556
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>>147519407
I HATE BAT!
With some tinkering, you should find yourself playing through the game rather
easily. Max out one elemental skill set for each character, learn some
powerful healing and attack skills, and you're on your way. Learning enough of an element that the character is weak for to get the automatic skill 'insert Element' resist is also a good idea. Honestly if you find yourself wanting to go a completely different way with a character, then getting the hunt skills will be worth it to go through another skill tree.

Those skills ain't cheap by the way, so you better be ready for the macca grind.

>>147519556
Pseudo science of aesthetics guru
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>>147519790
You bout to dump vaporwave wallpapers or what, m8?
Go on, I'm ready7 for you.
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>>147520263
Kill yourself
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>>147520263
Oops meant for >>147519842

That's forbidden love by the way, so you can't
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>>147520263
>You bout to dump vaporwave wallpapers or what, m8?
No. I'm pretty sure there's always a thread for that in /w/ or /wg/
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>>147520356
Way ahead of you desu
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"Gotou was based on the Japanese novelist Yukio Mishima. Nich Maragos, who worked on the Shin Megami Tensei's localization, commented in an interview that the character's identifier tag in the source is actually "mishima". Both Gotou and Mishima attempt coups against the Japanese government, and some of the former's poses seem to be based on actual pictures of the latter."
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>>147520070
Thanks anon

Agrilla a cute

Makes me feel bad for choosing to betray the Maribel roup
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>>147522841
Lucky you
Jinana and Argilla completely lez out in the other path.
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I want a Jackbook.
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>>147523732
Only $5000 for the what appears to be a 23" model
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>>147526756
>tfw gonna get Raidou soon

I can't wait.
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Hoy.
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EHHH
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>>147531262
ELEGANT
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>>147531378
FUWAH~
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Does this mean she wants the dick?
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>>147531436
This game is so lewd.
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>>147531436
So what, do you devour demons in this game as well?
She might be telling you to save the blood.
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>>147531436
Nah, just kill her and devour her corpse.
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>>147531436

It means she wants vodka.
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Hoy.
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I couldn't protect his smile
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Hoy.
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>>147537162
sup dude
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>>147510427
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SMT4A when
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>>147540375

Isn't it the 20th of September?
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>>147540426
I guess that's the real release date if it hasn't changed in like, a month.

My birthday, too
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Hoy.
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I just beat SMT II, Chaos route. Should I bother getting Law and Neutral? The final dungeons were fucking boring so I'm leaning towards no but I've heard the other routes are great. I made a save right before the split.
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>>147547318
Also, YHVH is one of the most broken bosses I've seen in a while. His Dekaja doesn't work, once he gets into his battle stance he starts taking little to no damage but once he uses Dekunda he goes back to taking 300 per hit. What the fuck.
He also never used that insta-kill move he has.
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>>147548702
>use Tarukaja a few times
>suddenly Lucifer is doing 3 damage per turn
I have no idea what is going on with that game's code.
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What should I Play after DDS?
Thinking maybe DeSu 2, Strange Journey, or biting the bullet the bullet to get a 3DS for IV
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>>147551313
Assuming you're going to play DDS2 after DDS, I'd try Strange Journey or IV.
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>>147551390
I want to take a break from DDS after the first one, with something lighter before going in for DDS 2.

Kinda like I had to clear DeSu 1 between Nocturne and DDS. Otherwise I'd burn out for sure.

DDS 2 is definitely after whatever i get to next though.
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>>147545370
Who's the guy with the goggles?
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>>147547318
I went neutral and felt the ending was pretty underwhelming, though I've heard Law is supposedly pretty good.

>>147548702
>>147550603
On top of all that bullshit with damage and buffs, the game kept crashing on me during that fight, it was the only time I felt justified using savestates. Shit took forever.
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>>147551635
DDS2 is a direct continuation of the first game, there's no resolution at the end of DDS1. It's not a normal sequel situation. You might change your mind.
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>>147551390
On top of >>147553559, there's also that both DDS games are relatively short compared to Nocturne, so if burning out is directly related to the length, you may as well play both and then something else.
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Why is Pierce needed with Freikugel, when nothing resists almighty?
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>>147554610
Because it does physical and almighty damage and to get the full effect you need pierce
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>>147503413
After the two fetch quests it's fine but those were near unbearable.
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>>147554610
There are some instances in MegaTen where enemies can resist Almighty.

Lucifer in Nocturne is one of them.
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>>147482857
A little bit. I've got too much MT to play to import it for a while, though.
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Guys
What the fuck is this
What the fuck Atlus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oToOyRRFaq0
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>>147556451
>AtlusUSA
Closed the tab right there. Please be more accurate next time. I don't care about what those retards are doing.
>>
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>>147558562
A cute.
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>>147556451
>>147556668

I can see why people don't like Atlus USA in general, but I'm not sure why people rag on their localizations. From what I've played of some SMT and Persona games (in Nip) and compared with videos online, the localizations are generally solid except anything regarding honorifics, which they regularly handle worse than any fan translator I've ever seen. Everything else if generally fine though, and SMT doesn't use honorifics, so SMT localizations are even better.
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>>147217416
Why is Raidou 2 too short?
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>First time playing Nocturne
>Beat EL MATADOR with little difficulty thanks to my team luckily having a bunch of agility buff/debuff moves at the time
>Suddenly labyrinth
>Beat first floor
>Angel starts talking to me
>Tell them to fuck off
>WOE UNTO YOU WHO CAN NO LONGER DISCERN GOOD FROM EVIL

Well shit, Did I already manage to lock myself out of Law path?
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>>147560641
Nocturne doesn't have the Law-Neutral-Chaos system. You didn't lock yourself out of anything.
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>>147560879
Excellent.
I just wanted to make sweet gains with my demons.
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>>147563340
What's the catch for having sex and marrying one of these demons?
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>>147563460

Being tied down to one demon when you could have as many as you want.
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>>147560435
It's more sidequests than main game. Mind you the gameplay is fun thanks to negotiation coming back again, but the story focus is terrible. Maybe the story is more appreciated by a japanese audience due to cultural differences.
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>>147563460
The sadness you'll put them through when you grow old and die while they'll have to live the rest of their long lives without you.
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What are the best versions of SMT 1/2/if?
I am thinking of sticking with Super Famicom just for the music, since I hear that it is not very good on PlayStation. I'm thinking original versions are better to grasp what makes the game good anyway, but then again I played Kyuuyaku.
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>>147553559
If I hadn't read this I would have assumed that I managed to get a bad end
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>>147564781

PSX versions probably, but I haven't played any other versions, I don't know what I'm missing in terms of music.

This page goes into great detail the changes between the SFC and PSX version of the first game, so give it a read and see what you think.

http://chris2second.web.fc2.com/ps1.htm

I've heard that accessing the map in the SFC version of the first game was a pain, and that the encounter rate was ludicrous.
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>>147566903
Well just compare the SFC and PS versions of SMT2's battle theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-e1gmbNCgM
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19193305

Haven't played either one, but I've read the PS version sounds like MIDI and I have to agree, it's pretty bad.
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Are these games difficult? "Deep"? "Creative"?

I played SMTIV a while back and it was alright. The gameplay was alright too but the plot and character development weren't very good.
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>>147476004
I one shot Masakado earlier today with him.
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>>147568490

Comparing some other tunes, I kinda like some of the PSX versions, and the SFC versions for others.
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>>147568925
SMT IV's gameplay is weaker and easier than most in the series, but don't expect deep story or characterization from any mainline SMT game. It's like the Dark Souls of JRPGs. There's some interesting lore there but not compelling narratives.
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>>147569592
Sweet, I've been playing DaS2 lately. Which SMT is the most difficult?
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>>147570394
Probably Strange Journey but everyone will have their own opinion.
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>>147569028
Unf
How did you do it, m8?
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>>147572006
The Fusion? Basically followed this video
https://youtu.be/dbqIPzMk2Mk?t=1m53s
My demons weren't the same but the end result was. I grinded him to 99 and used any incenses I had left on me (I was on my fourth cycle).
For the battle? Debuffs and buffs, Uriel dark energy + charge, MC smirks Uriel with archangel's law, prayed kannuki throw hit 15 times. Each hit did about 1600 damage and it crit at least once for 2200.
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>>147570394
>Strange Journey
>Any path that isn't Chaos

Also easily the hardest endgame boss in the entire series.

>mfw getting hit by alignment roulette for the first time

After the half-way point it takes the training wheels off. You'll know when it happens. It turns into something like a Gygax meatgrinder module but vidya. You will die hard and often on your first run.
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>>147547318
No, Neutral ending is terrible and Law's not worth working towards.

SMTII's probably my least favorite mainline for that reason and because of the fuckery described in >>147550603 and >>147552117. I would have liked it more if they fleshed out Neutral a little bit more (no reason why they couldn't have shown reactions to your decision like Chaos and Law did) and cut out at least one of the obnoxious fetch quests. It really loses steam during the Masakado one - genuinely forgot what was suppose to be going on with the main plot at that point. I still can't remember why I was down in the underworld at that time.

Kinda sucks because it starts and ends really strongly, and the twist towards the middle was great as well. It's just that the occasional bits of shitty writing and the drawn out "go all over ____ to collect ____" got annoying as fuck fast since they didn't do anything interesting with it.
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>>147573318

>Kinda sucks because it starts and ends really strongly, and the twist towards the middle was great as well. It's just that the occasional bits of shitty writing and the drawn out "go all over ____ to collect ____" got annoying as fuck fast since they didn't do anything interesting with it.

Yeah, I'm playing SMT II right now and while I liked the first half, the backtracking is really getting old. I've been playing less because of that (and because I think my heartburn is killing me). Just went through Center and beat up you-know-who's face.
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>>147573318
I feel you. The way the plot forgets about most characters or makes them a complete joke is just terrible.
The backtracking/fetch quests are also not fun at all. This game disappointed me a lot coming from SMT I to be honest.
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>>147572975
And here I was thinking Focused Freikugel + Pierce was some hot shit
I was blind, but now I see
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Is Nocturne the best game ever created?
Upperclassmen claims so.
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>>147574170
It is.
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>>147574170
Probably
You know, if Strange Journey and DDS didn't exist, I could see that being true.
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>>147574170
The subtlety of the beauty of Nocturne is unrivaled
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>>147572975
Man the voice acting is so fucking bad in English
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>>147573083
I just arrived at Grus (Law) and so far I've utterly dunked every and anything. Not even over-leveled. Is this where it gets harder?
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Can we all agree that SMTIV is a piece of shit with some redeeming factors?
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>>147575432
Are Isabeau's legs a redeeming factor?
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>>147575524
Nothing about those flat drawings is redeeming.
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>>147575432
No, it's a good game.
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>>147575098
For the demons, yea I don't particularly enjoy the generic voices they give for each demon when you fuse them. I actually enjoy the dub for the main characters.
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>>147575749

>I actually enjoy the dub for the main characters.

Same here. I haven't played it yet, but all of the VA I've heard from the main characters is good in the Japanese version as usual, but I also like some of the dub voices. I particularly like... I forget her name, but the A.I. girl.
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>>147575912
Bourroughs
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>>147575748
Semper Mascara. I'll purge you
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>>147576093

That's it.
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>>147574170
Fuck yea it is.
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>>147575432
The OST was nice. Everything else was eh.
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>>147575432
What was up with some of the demons like Centaur? Weird shit in general that didn't really seem to feel like a Centaur.
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>>147573846
I also love using this mother fucker. Guardian Eye + Curse Thy Enemy means 4 extra press turns.
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What does NuAngel mean?
Some kind of herald of emptiness?
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>>147575098

Jesus, it is pretty bad. It's making me reconsider playing the game in English. Haven't started it yet, and I can read Japanese fine, SMTs don't give me much trouble, I just have to look stuff up sometimes, but I was looking forward to playing a JRPG in English for maximum comfort for the first time in a long time.
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>>147577664
Just get the undub shit for brains
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>>147577995

Oh yeah, I kinda forgot about undubs, I've never used them before, nor had any desire to.
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>>147575173
I thought SJ was relatively easy, unless you're new to MegaTen I suppose. The only bosses that gave me trouble were Asura and Tiamat. I absolutely bodied Mem Aleph, I don't even think she used her alignment thing once.

I don't get how people keep saying it's the hardest in the series, Nocturne is much harder in my opinion.
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This is a lot less cool of a growth than Baal->Beelzebub
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>>147574523
>Strange Journey
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>>147582798
niceme.me
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>>147574170
I think Nocturne has the best gameplay in the series by far, on regards to combat and fusing, but I thought the atmosphere and story were kinda weak compared to other entries in the series. Remember how the Reasons were all dumb and you just wanted to kill all of the other humans? I'm pretty sure you were supposed to relate to these guys.

Compare that with the alignments on the other games where generally everyone will at least like one of the options and understand the appeal of the others, and the characters representing them were always cool (like Lucifer and Satan in SMT II). At least the game is cool enough to let you tell everyone to go fuck themselves on the True Demon ending, but that wasn't even on the original release of the game.
>>
I've spent a stupid amount of time reading people's in-depth analysis of demon design and narrative themes in MegaTen games, but only played a few. I am a fake geek...
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Who should I put Luck Incenses towards in SMT 1? If Hero already has 10 INT, should all INT Incenses go towards Heroine?
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>>147586416
Hero and yes.
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Is the bug that fucks up Nocturne's true ending on EU copies also present in the psn version?
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In SMTII there was a subplot where the Stalkers broke into the Center and stole some technology.

Is that plot abandoned later on, or did I miss out anything?
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>>147579261
Seperate characters.
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>>147482857
of course

it'll probably suck tho
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>>147585235
The player didn't have time to bond with the other humans and learn more about them hence the 'not giving fuck anymore' attitude. All I wanted to do was push Isamu into an infinite mirror portal after hearing him berate the MC for being too slow to rescue him.
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>>147590426
>The player didn't have time to bond with the other humans and learn more about them hence the 'not giving fuck anymore' attitude

This is a problem with most SMT games, i think.

Only SJ got it right.
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>>147585781
Better than being a Personage who only watches the animes.

>>147587130
If you mean the moon locking up the game or whatever, yes.
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>>147590605
Yeah. Made me feel bad when I had to part ways with Jimenez. He was a real bro.
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>>147590730

Man, speaking of anime, I'd like to see a properly done anime for SMT. I don't mean a 24 episode series filled with fanservice like what you get these days, I mean as long as it needs to be. 50 episodes. 100 episodes. More, I don't care. A show with a dark artstyle that focuses on people surviving in a fucked up world with limited fanservice (I wouldn't mind if the sexualized demons remained sexualized).

But it's 2016, that's never happening.
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>>147590605
SMTIII stands out because it got worse than previous iterations, though. Dark Hero, Law Hero, Chaos Hero and Zayn all had positive traits and were portrayed as looking out for you for most of their appearances. The Reason representatives in SMTIII are not only all dicks, but they also kill far more likeable characters.
>>
>>147590426
And their attempt to fix that is in a shitty OC Donut Steel drama where everyone thinks Demi-Fiend would fuck Chiaki despite her being a bully who picks on the weak which he hates. Course he also hates the weak that don't stand up for themselves.
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>>147592012
Wasn't it confirmed somewhere they would have ended up together or something had Nocturne not taken place?
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>>147591204
I'm still mad at how awfully they butchered DeSu2's characters and ending. They should've used more dosh to lure in competent writers.
>>
>>147592245
>>147592245
Same shitty Sound drama from the unreliable perspectives of the OC and Isamu.
>>
>>147592380
Also OC is the MOST unreliable perspective because he is the embodiment of Beta bitch. Lucifer even made him to die like a bitch against Kagutsuchi so Demi-Fiend would and chose the path Lucifer knew he would.
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>>147590605
Is it weird that I honestly felt worse seeing what happened with SMT alignmentfags, sans Nocturne's (Reasons are close enough) and Zelenin, than Shinji's death in P3?
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>>147596097
I would have maybe cared more about Shinji's death if peopple didn't tell other people not to use him because he dies before they even start the game.
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>>147596097
Shinji's death didn't really get me either (probably because I had been spoiled beforehand), but Aki's reaction to it was pretty sad. Oh, and the ending. No amount of spoilers saved me from getting depressed.

I also felt really bad about killing Yuriko/Lilith in SMT, for some reason. They should have given you a choice to take her instead of Heroine if you're aligned with Chaos.
>>
>>147596886
>>147596893
I think for me the idea of people who at least were chill with each other splitting up and fighting over different ideas is a lot more sad than a person just dying, or leaving your friends on good terms, etc. The dying for the cause at my own hands shit doesn't help either, but I don't think that's the root of why it feels bad to watch.
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>>147596097
>>147596886
>>147596893
akahito broke my heart
i already knew he was going to die so w/e
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>>147596893
Lewd.
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>>147597484
its been so long i forgot how to spell his name apparently
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>Now have to pick a side in SMT II

Actually, Lucifer didn't tell me much, just that he wants to beat Satan. I have no idea what his plans for Earth are. Zaine just says he wants to destroy Tokyo Millenium. Wonder if I missed something that explain's Lucifer's desires more.
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>>147596893
Put the spoiler tags on you fucking faggot
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>>147585235
>Remember how the Reasons were all dumb and you just wanted to kill all of the other humans?
I'm sorry, I can't remember the opinion of other people as if they were facts.

>I'm pretty sure you were supposed to relate to these guys.
Why the fuck would you think that?
This is probably the most ridiculous thing I've read from you rep faggots. On the one side you complain about how the reps were just assholes on the other that it was the developers' intention that they were supposed to be likeable.
Choosing alignments by how sympathetic you find their reps isn't the only way and it sure as hell isn't intended considering the fact that 2/3 of the reason reps are the opposite of what they want. Yes, Chiaki is beautiful (after getting demon power).
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>>147598556
All Chiakis are beautiful.
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>>147598556
>sympathetic
Meant sympathic/likeable.

>>147598763
Of course but I was talking about the strong=beautiful in that sentence.
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>>147358069
The original Megami Tensei is the best.

>Find Cerberus
>Join me, man!
>"I don't know... You have, what, 900 MAG? I want 600."
>Mmmm, fine
>"Thanks. I want some sake."
>That is literally not an item in the game, assface.
>"Stingy human! I want... your girlfriend, she's hot."
>I literally can't give her to you.
>"290 MAG."
Fuck that game and its stupid shit. Fuck Palsy, fuck passwords, and fuck Valhalla.
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>>147517417
Asherah is a cute. Post more giant demon grils.
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>>147524249
And also 1x Bead.
Oh, and you'll hook the guy selling it to you up with hot mirage chicks, right?
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APOCALYPSE RELEASE DATE WHEN
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Why is Heat such a fucking dick?

Why does everyone in DDS1 have 1 dimensional personalities?
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>>147602497

Wasn't it the 20th of September?
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>Bought DDS1 off PSN
>get to the point where the fight Jinana
>that fucking cutscene's lip sync/sounds where Sera sings is way off

holy fuck I should've listened. I hope this only happens once
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>>147602575
>Asking for spoilers
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>>147602575
>Wanting someone to spoil you

anon just play
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>>147602935
>>147602985
s-sorry
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What builds are viable in DDS1?
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>>147603586
literally anything is viable in DDS1

Not even joking. DDS1 is piss easy
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>>147603057
It's going to seem really stupid before it really starts to click, but you'll make it senpai.

>>147603586
While Serph can be viable in just about any build as long as you have the right stats and skills for it, the others are more or less pigeonholed by their stats.

Heat: Physical attack user
Argilla: Offensive spellcaster
Gale: Support spellcaster / Healer
Cielo: Healer / Ailment,Mudo,Hama caster

Even then they still be useful in other roles.
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>>147603586
For Serph? Anything. It should be fairly obvious how to build everyone but Gale, who is pretty versatile.
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Hoy.
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>>147608331
HOY


Is this gen always this dead?

I don't come in here often only when I'm in the middle of playing an SMT game from time to time
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>>147608597
Sometimes.

Not as dead as the Armored Core General, of course.
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>>147608597
not if you rez it
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>>147608331

How the hell did this catch on?
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>>147609124
____________________________________________HOY
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>>147608597

It's been pretty dead since I started playing a couple months ago, but that's what I get for starting years after everyone else.
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>>147608597
Nearly all the time
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>>147602668
My Amazon preorder said it was
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Time to create a new world.
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>>147612914
Make it a world of LUK
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Any day now.
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>>147616542

I'm not sorry
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