Pronin Edition
A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.
Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/
/fsg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flightsimgeneral
/fsg/ TeamSpeak:
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
Or whatever is on the group's profile
BMS download links
https://mega.nz/#!0BlTkazA!VUwoKAzavtJ3qIUy7lEF8D8MFjbI_Si-r6nwC3wQZYQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/54569phfy8au7/BMS4.33_setup
http://www.e-haf.org/PublicFTP/320/BMS_4.33/Falcon_BMS_4.33_U1_Setup.zip
Planefag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/Zb0U61in
Silent Hunter 3 pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/jNSvhFfY
Dangerous Waters pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/qvxk755r
FPSchazly's Dangerous Waters tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOSvzqNmdX71x2COOyM-p2qHIpRNOvpGQ
Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web
>Example of welcome sims:
Falcon BMS
Captain Pronin: One Against All
DCS World
Rise of Flight
IL-2
Combat Helo
Microsoft Flight Simulator
X-Plane
Euro truck sim
Assetto Corsa
rFactor 2
Live for Speed
SAM Simulator
Steel Beasts Pro
Steel Armor: Blaze of War
Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum
Silent Hunter
Train Simulator
Farming Simulator 2015
>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm* 3
Ac* Combat
W*r Thunder
World of ____
ban furrys and slavboos when?
2nd for Pronin mode
>>147129052
>Ban everyone that isn't a boring ass american burger when?
ATTENTION ALL PLANEFAGS
THIS IS YOUR FRIENDLY BR EX-HOST SPEAKING
OPS TODAY AT UTC 22:00
IF WE GET ENOUGH PEOPLE AND A HOST WE'LL BE FLYING COMFY RAIN OPS AGAIN ELSE IDK I HAVE TWEAKED THE MISSION SINCE WE LAST OPERATED ON IT
I'LL POST THE SITUATION/BRIEFING OF THE MISSION ON THE THREAD LATER TODAY, IF I REMEMBER, WITH ANOTHER REMINDER OF OPS
>>147129309
what do you mean by this?
>>147129052
furries are the worst thing in the world
like damn, you take such a cool thing as animal people and then you fuck it up so much.
furries are the british aerospace industry of fandoms. except minus all the small successes, leaving only "good idea but you fucked it up."
>>147129384
>I'm off at 3:30
>>147129686
Maybe we can postpone a bit. 2200 UTC seemed to work really well as an ops time previously so that's why I put it up like that.
If enough people don't mind we can have it at 2300 or 2330 UTC
>>147129880I can probably leave earlyhopefully
>>147129686
Craig confirmed wage cuck.
>>147130248(you)
>>147129093
>>147129146
>>147129356
WHat the fuck is this pronin shit
>>147129880
I'd say host it an hour earlier.
>>147131742
Why is everyone such an asshole here?
>>147132759
How does that follow from his statement?
>>147132759
It's just some bantz and shitposting eh chill will ya mate
>>147132790
>>147132810
>>147132893
I genuinely can't see what's wrong with the question.I don't do ops or anything, is this some kind of personal drama I can't understand from reading the thread alone?
>>147132759
The person that wants ops to be postponed is living cancer, even by the TS cancer brigade's standards.
>>147132935
Lurk more. Or don't.
>>147132935
>trying to baiting this hardapply gun directly to the forehead
>>147133018
>trying to baiting this hard
I genuinely have no idea what's happening.
Even after re-reading the reply chain, all I can draw from it is:
Someone wants thing postponed
Someone else says they'd prefer it brought forward.
I can see why that's a disagreement but I can't see how it's immediately being an asshole.
Perhaps >>147132993 's advice is in order.
>>147133106
>I genuinely have no idea what's happening.
TS is happening.
>>147132993
>I don't like somebody=therefore they are cancer
>dramaposting like literal cancer
>baiting this hard
>craig getting baited AGAIN
jesus christ.
>>147133386
>I'll always reply to post that are about myself because I'm a huge attention whore
And then you play the "I'm so smart" part.
Somebody needs to go to bed
>reading some arguments on BMS IFF
>"it'd be unrealistic to have IFF modeled which the AI can't use"
>"teaching the AI to use it is too hard"
>"it's totally fine that the AI just knows you're an enemy"
>"just pretend they have superior sensors"
>not skilled enough to fly online
>not smart or motivated enough to learn
>feel severely intellectually inferior to everyone who is.
>>147134368
Reminds me of Paracucks games' "realism is not a meaningful argument".
>>147134406
Read /simg/.
These are the people who fly online.
There, now you can be confident again.
>>147134406
Nigger are you serious. How do you think the good people that play online learned?
Can Mig 21 be downloaded for free somewhere or did I get something wrong?
>>147134647
Yes, and it requires using CLI for installing it.
>>147134549
By being smart and motivated and teaching themselves a reasonable degree offline.
>>147134910
Just fly a lot against the AI to get BFM basics, then jump into online.
>>147134910
>By being smart
Oh come the fuck on. If you ever played online or hell if you followed the Blue Flag dramaor you lurked for a few threadsyou'd understand that a seizable amount of the DCS playerbase is borderline retarded. Other sims have retards too, but not nearly as much as DCS.
>motivated
I hope you aren't implying that learning sims is hard or requires lots of effort. If you know where to look for (protip: the OP) you can find documents that spoonfeed you practically everything you need to know.
>teaching themselves a reasonable degree offline.
If we're talking about DCS, the only thing you'll learn offline is how your plane maneuvers and how the systems work. The AI behaves pretty differently from humans.
WW2 sims are a slightly different story because if you don't learn how to manage energy the AI will humiliate you. I can't speak for WW1 sims as I'm not really interested in that.
My sides just ejected.
>>147134753
Care to explain further? torrent or?
>>147136065
Lurk more/google.
>tfw Captain Pronin: One Against All has a dynamic campaign but DCS still does not
>>147135320
>you'd understand that a seizable amount of the DCS playerbase is borderline retarded
My understanding is that while they do a lot of stupid things, they tend to fall into Reddit/Forum tier stupidity which is more like a lack of any "sense" compared to not being able to understand "smart things" overall.
[Think: the kind of person who can perform aerodynamic calculations, but makes the most ridiculous suggestions for "balance"]
>If you know where to look for (protip: the OP) you can find documents that spoonfeed you practically everything you need to know.
Just reading them takes motivation and long-term focus that I lack.
When things don't do what they should do, or when I can't find a given switch, it tends to cascade into a disaster.speaking from trying to fly complex add-on airliners in FSX, not DCS fighters.
Basically, I am very stupid, very lazy, and very lacking in motivation, while still wanting to be able to do things.
I haven't learned anything major new in years, so I'm stuck finding new ways to re-apply old knowledge. So I can do the basics of flying an aircraft, follow some checklists, etc, but in the end something always goes wrong and I can't recover without getting fed up and giving up.
/blog
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/129142347/#129142953
Look at them. Look at them and laugh.
>>147137334
You sound like a loser, better just end yourself.
>>147137334
The average DCS retard stupidity consists in pearls such as "lol I have 8 slammers hu da fugg needs heaters", "I'll always fly with 3 additional fuel bags because more range is always better" (and never drop them because they don't how how to do that), "I have a thrust weight ratio that is higher than 1 who the fuck needs BFM", "getting in a turnfight against modern russian fighters is a brilliant idea, what could possibly go wrong", and that's just shit they do in game.
>the rest of your post
I want back the five minutes it took me to write this and I really mean it.
>>147137334
man up or hang yourself
>still waiting
>>147137560
>>147137835
Suicide requires willpower and therefore is not an option.
>>147137780
>The average DCS retard stupidity consists in pearls such as "lol I have 8 slammers hu da fugg needs heaters", "I'll always fly with 3 additional fuel bags because more range is always better" (and never drop them because they don't how how to do that), "I have a thrust weight ratio that is higher than 1 who the fuck needs BFM", "getting in a turnfight against modern russian fighters is a brilliant idea, what could possibly go wrong", and that's just shit they do in game.
Starting to think all I need to look up is "How to fire missiles" then. :^)
>to write this
Hope you mean the post I replied to, or "read this", otherwise you need some Mavis Beacon.
>>147137780
>F-15 drivers hurt my feelings: the post
>>147137908
>RWR all the way down.
some spergs are really going to bitch about this, and say M-MUH ERGONOMICS, about a plane that was never designed to be used on a monitor.
>>147138101
I'm sure this is baiting now.
Fuck off.
>>147138186
Suicide thing was completely serious.
Reply on DCS retards and length of post being far too short to warrant 5min typing: how dare I make a fucking joke?
>>147138129
>mandatory butthurt Craig petty shitpost
Don't you ever get tired by how fucking stale you are?
>>147138131
I really loathe the MiG-21's ergonomics but why would I get angry by the Hornet's RWR position? It's not like it's hidden behind the stick or something, and it takes a moment to lower your eyes and glance at it.
>>147138267
>F-15 pilots hurt my feels : post 2/2
>>147138401
Because it's the same complaint about the positioning in Russian planes, even though it makes perfect sense in reality.
>>147138131
Those spergs should just eject themselves from the atmosphere.
It's not any worse than the Su-25T, Flanker or Mig-29. (without headtracking it could be inconvenient, sure)
>>147138267
People with autism or mental retardation are unaware of how stupid, stale or boring they are sometimes. Just filter his images.
>>147138516
You mean the SPO-15? Did anyone really ever complain about where it's positioned here in /simg/?
>>147138589
I did that the second time he posted any of his images. I also had to turn off recursive filtering as the retards that replied to his shitposts and other posts in the same post would fuck up the thread.
sorry I disrupted the slavboo circlejerk
>>147138719
>You mean the SPO-15? Did anyone really ever complain about where it's positioned here in /simg/?
Sometimes.
From the russian side of ED forums
#1
>>147138794
Really? All of the complains about the SPO-15 that I remember off the top of my head are about how shit it is at giving SA, especially for what concerns ground threats.
>>147138872
#2
>>147138872
>>147139015
so wait are they actually fucking making an Su-24?
I demand links.
>>147139053
>>147139113
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=145583&page=56
It's more like a general 3d modeling WIP thread.
But I remember that the current Su-25A cockpit was started (made?) by a user, shown off in a similar thread.
Who knows? Probably it's just a mod.
>>147139260
I think it's just a mod pit, it looks way too low poly and the tv screens look way worse for EDs new cockpits.
>>147139328
>bad quality tv screens
Placeholders, WIP and so on.
>>147139260
>>147139328
>all these good ass slav mods
what the fuck why can't anyone who speaks english make mods like that
>>147139412
Because english speakers all get PMs telling them to shut it down and/or to buy developer license.
>>147129384
Thanks for hosting it a bit earlier for us Yurofags
I'll be there
Is 8 gb of ram enough for OPS? Also is TS required?
>>147139482
Or they get a bait PM from shitspawn on Matt's behalf, and they'll get banned no matter on how they reply to it.
>>147140408
You need at least 32GB or ram, a combination of Mumble and TS, and two TITAN X's to successfully join OPS.
Oh, and Warthog is mandatory
>>147140912
You're forgetting Skype, NaturalPoint™'s TrackIR™ and Saitek™ Pro Flight™ Combat Rudder Pedals.
Do the makers of Euro Truck Sim not fucking understand what this sign means? I bought this game yesterday and it's been tons of fun but I keep having to make panic last minute lane switches because this sign keeps showing up before it turns out only the left lane goes forward while the right lane is for TURNING ONLY.
Also the road signs and GPS never argue on the speed limit but that's a minor complaint. The lane thing is infuriating.
>>147138516
I'm curious why it makes "perfect sense" - wouldn't you want it to be higher up and easier to quickly glance at?
>>147141428
There's more important shit higher up, such as the MFDs.
>>147141491
I would think not dying takes priority, though
>>147141589
It's not like the RWR beeps when you get tracked by new contacts. You don't need to constantly keep your eyes on it either.
>>147141589
>modern US combat aircraft
>ever really being at risk of being shot down
besides, real life modern RWR comes with a lot of audio cues, to the point that you can tell what's painting you by the sounds being fed to your headset.
>>147141698
>ever really being at risk of being shot down
I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that you only fight against fucks that can barely keep shit flying and don't have theater SAMs.
>>147140846
>and they'll get banned no matter on how they reply to it.
Not replying is another cause for a ban of course.
/simg/ was a mistake desu
>>147141426
The Chinese drivers online are amazingly bad. it's hilarious to see several overturned trucks on the autobahn all of them with ching chong names
>>147142201
I have not tried multiplayer yet nor have I installed any mods. I'm just amazed how in a game dedicated to simulating road travel the devs wouldn't get the traffic signs right. It's not a simple lapse in judgement contained to a single location either, I just drove from Oslo to Gothenburg then from somewhere in Germany to Vienna and the same thing kept happening.
>>147142090
That falls under the "being disrespectful towards a moderator" rule which entails permaban from the forums and revoking all of your modules' keys, they'll also send the ATF or your country's equivalent at your house.
>>147142110
Is that you, Eugene babby?
>>147140912
>>147141342
Asking because my PC gets rekt in most multiplayer missions because of ram usage...
>>147142523
I don't even know what OPS is but there is no reason not to have 16gb of ram on a modern PC indended for gaming. The stuff is dirt cheap. Also why would anyone not have TS installed?
>>147141428
Because an up down glance will let you see the HUD the MFD and the RWR, as well as the RWR being right next to the fuel indicator, so with a quick glance you get an overview of the entire situation of your aircraft.
Also in my opinion it's easier to look up and down than side to side.
>>147142591
>Also why would anyone not have TS installed?
>>147141342
>Using Skype.
It's as if you like eating shit or something.
>>147142730
Buy the DCS Sarcasm module.
>>147142348
You should give the multiplayer mod a go. It's comfy as fuck to drive at night and pass a dude going the other way and you both honk at eachother as you pass
RELEASE THE PATCH YOU FUCKS
ROOOOOOOOOOOO
Hey Custard
NEVER EVER
Where can I download the MiG-21 demo?
>>147146901
is this a meme?
>>147146901
Fucking google it you lazy cunt.
>>147146982
No.
>>147147079
Not yet.
MiG-21 ops when?
STILL
NO
VERSION
MERGE
REEEEEE
>>147141428
>>147141491
>>147141589
>>147141664
>>147141698
What if the F-18 has the RWR as an MFD screen, and the analog instrument down under is a back-up/duplication?
>>147151831
U THO?
>No Rise of Flight ops
Sopwith Camel is gods plane 1917
>>147151831
The F/A-18C also has a RWR indicator on its HUD
http://www.belsimtek.com/news/1643/
>Game documentation for DCS: F-5E Tiger II
>DCS F-5E Quickstart manual (ENG)
>DCS F-5E Flight manual (ENG)
>DCS F-5E Кpaткoe pyкoвoдcтвo (RUS)
>DCS F-5E Pyкoвoдcтвo пилoтa (RUS)
>>147155328
Is it out then
>>147155826
No, it means we finished formatting the text copy-pasted from the original technical order, my dear customer. You now have plenty of time to study before the proper relase! :^)
I might begin to shill Rise of Flight to see if anyone wants to fly with me
Who /F5 prepurchased/ here
>>147157637
Strongly considering now
>>147156665
I'll have to reinstall, but I'll fly RoF ops. Love those jamming machine guns
>>147158407
The damage model is amazing. Old biplanes are fun as fuck
>>147157769
20% off bruh
>Here, we show that during their half-century history, helicopters have been evolving into geometrically similar architectures with surprisingly sharp correlations between dimensions, performance, and body size. For example, proportionalities emerge between body size, engine size, and the fuel load. Furthermore, the engine efficiency increases with the engine size, and the propeller radius is roughly the same as the length scale of the whole body. These trends are in accord with the constructal law, which accounts for the engine efficiency trend and the proportionality between “motor” size and body size in animals and vehicles. These body-size effects are qualitatively the same as those uncovered earlier for the evolution of aircraft.
HELICOPTERS ARE EVOLVING
>>147159519
>tfw too poor to afford any modules in the forseeable future
>>147159519
66% on the RoF website, don't bother with steam
>>147159796
i'll hold your hand in the Su-25T and F-16 :)
I already have Ka-50 installed (got the old 1.2 version and updated it), but I need the serial number. If I buy the module from the site, will I need to reinstall?
>>147128954
>harmless confronts pronin about persecuting his people
>>147147079
Google for what? Your moms porn?
>>147160732
eew no I do have some actual modules. I just can't buy the F-5
PSA
WE WILL BE USING OPEN BETA UNTIL 1.5.4 IS PUSHED TO STABLE SINCE ED KEKED US YET AGAIN.
To update to OB you can either go here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/
Download the 1.5 early access.
OR to update your existing install without installing DCS again or needing to redo keybinds go here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2548018
Look for the instructions to update to OpenBeta.
Alternatively here are the relevant instructions:
Updating or Switching an Install Between "Open Beta" and "Release" Version Branches (1.2.8.):
In the Command Prompt Windows:
Type: dcs_updater.exe update <branch>:<version> (ie dcs_updater.exe update openbeta:1.2.7 )
Type: dcs_updater.exe update <branch>:<version.subversion> (ie dcs_updater.exe update openbeta:1.2.7.23803)
UPDATER VERSION 2.6.8.41 And Newer Use:
Type: dcs_updater.exe update <version>@Branch (ie DCS_updater.exe update 1.5.1@openbeta, DCS_updater.exe update 2.0.0@openalpha )
DCS_updater.exe update @release
DCS_updater.exe update @openbeta
DCS_updater.exe update @openalpha
Eligible Values are:
release | Switches and Updates to the Latest Release Build
openbeta | Switches and Updates to the Latest Open Beta Build
openalpha | Switches and Updates to the Latest Open Alpha Build
>>147162057
Look at all the work. Good luck getting people to do that when they wouldn't even take the effort to get the radio mod working.
>>147162057
Did they fix the track ir bug?
Also mig-29A ops when?
Any real military pilots here?
>>147162057
lol no
>>147162209
>shift right-clickopen command prompt in folder
>type in DCS_updater.exe update @openbeta
>wait for installer to do everything else
I know it's hard, do you want me to babysit you while you figure it out?
>>147162362
TrackIR is fixed yes. MiG-29A ops will probably occur today.
>>147162450
There was a French hopeful and possible another one. On the whole, if there are any, they're rather tight lipped about it.
>>147162450
Nobut my dad was
>>147162462
Nice.
The MiG-29A model looks really good.
No Slavboo tho.
>>147162057
This counts for tonight as well?
Do I buy it?
>>147162937
I would assume so. There's no reason not to switch to OpenBeta anymore now that the major bugs have been fixed. All missions should work 100% now that ED have fixed the AI bugs they introduced a while ago as well.
>>147163083
Is it on sale?
>>147163242
N-No
>>147162057
Should mods be disabled before updating?
>>147163404
Most of the time you should be okay, but I would disable them just to be safe.
>>147163083
Razbam ain't fixing his shit. Wait until it's out of beta.
>>147162057
Made a 'starter kit' to swap back and forth for you steam dummies. Just download and extract to your base DCS directory.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/icz4y7ecf5975hn/DCSStarterKit.zip
>>147162450
I could be one if I wanted to, but I became a Wendy's manager. I have 3000 flight hours in dcs with over 300 air to air victory's.
>>147163745
>not fixing their shit
N I G G A
I
G
G
A
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2821041&postcount=2558
And that's just the latest patch.
RoF Ops when?
Cmon lads it's the centenary of the Somme
>>147164568
How about this weekend?
I'd like to play it with people, come to the teamspeak.
2 seater tail gunner RoF ops will make the lack of a human gunner in the huey even more painful
STOP TORRENTING THE OPEN BETA UPDATE YOU'RE MAKING IT LOW FOR ME REEEE
>>147165909
>He dosent have all versions of dcs installed
>>147166131
>he has three seperate versions of DCS installed eating all the space on his HDD/SDD
I bought the Mirage
>>147165909
More people tormenting makes it faster, not slower
>>147137483
>It won't survive a week and I highly doubt it's from people from here. Probably /v/ kiddies or some faggot from the cancer brigade (/wtg/, /aceg/ and other similar trash)
>Yeah this is just sad. I doubt it will survive a day.
>At least /wgg/ has better memes
>>147139260
>Pic related is on the same page.
Explain? I want this.
>>147141798
desu we'll probably ever fight against mudslimes and kill practice targets. US will probably never fight an enemy who isn't living in the fucking dark ages, and the seal clubbing of niggers and mudslimes will increase the kill count of american aircraft and all the burgers yell 'MUH SUPERIOR TECHNOLOGY'
>>147157637
I did because it looks neat
>>147159796
K I N G U I N
>>147163083
Is worth because Razbam is being a good dev and full fidelity 4th gen is neato.
>>147163910
This right here hits way too close to home
>>147166131
I bet he doesn't even have it installed on an SSD
Sorry for the long post, not my fault you fags made this many posts in a few hours.
>>147163910
>Victory's
You'd fail the AFOQT
>>147166940
Harmless can get into the air force so I'm not to sure about that.
>>147166940
I got autocorrekt
>>147164802
Yes boi we Somme ops
>>147167339
I'll be on later.
I don't even have the game but I've always wanted to play.
>>147167430I'm just gauging interest at the moment senpai got IRL commitments keeping me from playing
God I love older FCR systems.
Reminder that ED started this poll and never ever talked about it again.
>>147169014
>540 people voted for a dynamic campaign
>23 for stupid missions and shit we have now
>ED decided to cater to the stupid 23 idiots
My god this company is so full of shit.
When I updated my TIR was still fucked but if you literally throw this in your directory it will fix all of your issues.
It is worth for this sexy ass MiG-29A model, you just try and tell me that shit doesn't make you wet.
http://puu. ED IS A KEKOLD sh/pMT3v/b5cfbf411d.zip
>>147169014
>Reminder that ED started this poll and never ever talked about it again.
That's because they didn't like the outcome of it.
>>147169997
So it's kinda like Brexit, amirite guise? :^)
How big is the performance increase of installing on an SSD?
>>147171915
You know when you zoom in and it lags?
It doesn't do that kind of shit on an SSD
hi /simg/. let me ask you guys, is a flight stick absolutely necessary? if so, what are the functions/buttons one needs to have to make it better? is there a guide for buying one?
no name dropping pls because i'm not american
>>147172361
Necessary? No.
Necessary to enjoy yourself? Yes.
>>147172361
You can look in the OP for information on different joysticks to get a feel for the different prices and pros and cons.
Playing without a joystick is like playing an RTS with a controller
>bos adds really well made playable tanks with fully modeled inside views
>absolutely free update
>dcs adds shitty arcadey tonks that barely work
>paid dlc for $20
How do they get away with this?
anyone know of a mod for ETS2 that would add "distance until next turn" functionality to GPS?
>>147172361
It is, more or less. Although they can be a little steep, they last forever so they're truly a one-time investment. I can recommend the Saitek x52 pro, I've had it since '07 and it has done everything I needed it to.
>>147172786
Is the ground combat any fun?
OPS
WHEN
>>147172786
Because it's their business and they do what they want....
>How dare Ed charge us for planes we should get them all for free because I'm too poor to spend 60$ once in a blue moon.
That's not even considering that most planes and helis can be bought for cheap on other websites besides ED store page.
>>147173880
>>147172643
>>147172539
what about pedals? I cant find them sold separately. does the ones sold with wheels work?
>>147174816
No they will work terribly, try and get some CH Pro Pedals if you can. However pedals are not necessary at first if you have a twisty stick.
>>147174816
No. Plon pedals don't work like car pedals.
ATTENTION ALL PLANEFAGS
THIS IS YOUR FRIENDLY BR EX-HOST SPEAKING
http://www.strawpoll.me/10640736
Vote for ops time.
ASSEMBLE IN TS AT OPS TIME MINUS THIRTY MINUTES
>>147162057 Wants everyone to run open beta 1.5.4 for this ops. The mission wasn't really tested in 1.5.4 so I'll leave the decision for which version we'll fly in to be done in the TS while we assemble.
>>147142591
>why would anyone not have TS installed?
no friends, no life, no skill.
ergo, no need..
>>147175087
I thought that post was you.
>Ivan trying to force people to use open beta so he can play with VR
I bet track ir isn't even fixed. Why not just play on stable?
>>147175087
Missions made in 1.5.3 work in 1.5.4.
In fact many missions that were broken in 1.5.3 are now working again in 1.5.4 due to the fixes to the AI etc.
>>147175616
Because we're tired of ED cucking us out of fucking merging OB with stable. There are too many fixes and changes not to switch at this point. And trackIR is fixed as far as I know, and if not, just download this >>147169875
>>147175895
I've been playing on open beta for a while so I'm good.
I just thought it was funny that he felt the need to dictate which version of dcs we use without even asking the mission maker. He is our furry overlord after all.
...
>>147172361
Read the fucking pastebin you stupid nigger it's there for a very precise reason.
>>147177905
>seriously expecting someone to browse a wall of text OP instead of just asking a question they could get a reply to within 5 minutes.
1-800-COME-ON
>>147178019
I'll concede you that our OP is a fucking mess that could be handled a bit better.
Proposal:
/simg/
Description
(remove the attention grabbing tags because they add absolutely nothing of value)
Planefag pastebin (put the TS address and the fucking BMS download links there you piece of shit, unless you want the planefag pastebin to be taken over)
Aviation material repo
SH3 pastebin
Reorder the welcome games in one row
Add city building shit to the nonwelcome games
ATTENTION ALL PLANEFAGS
OPS HAVE BEEN POSTPONED TO 23:00 UTC TODAY
SHOW UP IN THE TS AT 22:30 UTC TO BEGIN COORDINATION
Ops Info Part 1:
>Mission we're flying
/simg/ Operation Cutthroat 1_3
>Available aircraft:
SU-25, SU-25T, KA-50, Mi-8MTV2, SU-27, MiG-29A, MiG-29S
>Roles Available:
CAS, Troop Transport, TARCAP, SEAD
Player Controlled ground units are expected in the ops
>Situation:
After a swift georgian attack on the city of Sochi following a russian accusation of aggression against South Ossetia by Georgia, Russia began to mobilize it's army in a counterattack against Georgia. After two days of fighting, russian forces have managed to deprive Georgia of it's access to the Black Sea by pushing south along the coast. Now deep inside the territory of Georgia, russian forces are pushing against it's capital, Tbilisi
>Briefing:
Capture the city of Gori.
This mission requires close cooperation of ground forces with the air package tasked with providing CAS.
A very small contingent of georgian and NATO troops are holding the city of Gori, a vital chokepoint to the russian advance into Georgia's capital, Tbilisi. Take the city to secure a safe route into their capital.
Intel also suggests a convoy of NATO cavalry and IFVs moving west into the city.
=====FLIGHT PACKAGE TASKING=====
The group assembled to assist the ground forces in taking the city consists of:
TARCAP:
Your mission is to fly a CAP over the operation area and take out any enemy aircraft which would threaten the group.
CAS:
Your mission is to search and destroy any enemy ground units in the operation area and assist the ground forces in any way possible
SEAD:
Your mission is to neutralize any enemy SAMs and AAA in the operation area
Helicopters:
Your mission is the same as that of the CAS flight. Mi-8s may pick up infantry units at the FARP and drop them near the city to support the ground forces advance.
>Ops start time:
23:00UTC
>DCS Version
1.5.4 Open Beta U1, since nobody objected
>>147181316
Ops Info Part 2:
I'm retarded there's no Part 2
>>147179485
>>147178169
>>147178019
An OP pastebin used to be linked in the OP for reference until someone decided to post the OP without it.
http://pastebin.com/yXeNzrpg
I'll make some changes to it
>>147181316
>no MiG-21bis
why
>>147181529
>A thread for all simulation games
>not "vehicle simulations games"
Stopped reading here.
>>147181916
It's an old pastebin, I'm reorganizing it at the moment. Give me a few minutes.
>>147176342
It actually wasn't me.
>>147179485
>>147181916
>>147181529
>>147182075
http://pastebin.com/BrNPaMRr
>>147181316
>open beta
I object
>>147182406
Overruled.
Penalty applied.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA-tSeu4MTA
>>147182497
no ops for me then I guess
>>147181316
h-how do I join? Is it going to be on server list or by direct IP?
>new to OPS
>>147183090
Join the TS at 22:30 UTC or right now if you want
>>147181316
>1.5.4 Open Beta U1, since nobody objected
>nobody objected
Uh, ok. Have fun having half the number of people you should have.
Ok so in DCS 1.5 standalone I have lost the ability to control the camera in replay tracks. Its locked to whatever was used in the flight. I used to be able to control the camera before and lost the ability overnight.
>>147183374
Don't have and won't bother creating it now.. pls write here
>>147183734
It'll be on the server list.
Get in TS for password.
>Get in TS
>Literally everyone except 1 is muted or afk
>Person here literally just got here.
>>147184226
what's the ts server name/ip?
>>147184639
ts.artificialanimation.com:7997
everyone should get it because its how we OPS
>>147182571
Don't be a cuck, be free from the stable branch and spread your wings lad
>>147182571
that command prompt thing literally took me 10 second tho
>>147185607
I updated and got multiple crashes so I went back to stable
OPS ASSEMBLING, GET IN TS
>>147187607
>open beta
fuck this gay shit nigga
cockroach fucking porn in the TS and shit god damn
>>147189132
Kill yourself.
>>147189352
>he doesn't like cockroach porn
>current year
/simg/ was a fucking mistake
>tfw just bought FSX:SE because it was $8 and my copy of FSX's key doesn't work anymore
>but I'm a macpleb
I cry
>its a CAP shits the bed and gets fucking removed without killing a single enemy fighter episode.
you fucks better do ops this weekend
I'm tired of getting ready for work while you guys are off flying and doing fighter pilot shit
>10
>>147196389
a
fucking
leaf
>>147196453
Bonjour
>>147196551
vive le quebec libre!
>>147196630
Dirty frenchman. I bet you wouldn't give your life for this country. Just like your dirty sad french ancestors.
>>147196389
I thought you were going to kill yourself, what a wasted opportunity.
>>147196752
desu i'm not Canadian, the only reason i have any sympathy for quebec is learning that if they'd had a narrow victory in their referendum Canada wouldn't have accepted the result, which hits me as dreadfully unfair.
If that's how Canada wants to play it, I say leave them to a country with similar respect for democracy. Like Russia. :^)
Summary of today's ops
TARCAP removed by F-14As
CAS removed by F-14As
Choppers removed by F-14As
Next version of mission is going to have F-14As later, guys.
I am so salty about the Su-27
This was my planefu
ED cucked it so hard its wings snap off with no warming
Like fug make the tolerances a little higher like fuck, how many Su-27 wings do you find laying around in Russia to make it auto snap at 7g?
If anything at least give me a server set option to turn it off until it's more polished
Sorry about salting up the TS with it
/rant
>>147169014
>We now have the data we seek
>only 37.34% wants DC
>that's just a third of the playerbase
>not enough interest to put effort into it
>)))))))))))))))))))))))))
>>147197759
Snapping at 7gs is a complete lie.
Literally learn how to not yank on your stick like a mong and its just fine.
No wonder you /simg/ faggots worship the MiG-29. Its on rails so you can't break its wings no matter how hard you try.
>>147162450
>mfw spent all of my time since highschool preparing to be a pilot
>mfw nrotc
>mfw good grades and top PT score
>About to apply for aviation commission, sure thing at this point
>Just one eye exam that I should pass
>WRONG
>mfw barely fail eye exam
>mfw no aviation contract
Should I just kill myself now?
Not my best takeoff
Should I get it?
>>147200348
Only if you're interested solely in multiplayer and don't mind all the germans playing for k/d while the soviets going for objectives.
>>147199991
PRK.
>>147200114
t. Gary
>>147204130
Experimenting with Gazlel S-25 bb
Okay, THIS IS YOUR BR EX-HOST SPEAKING
OPS TOMORROW, 22:00 UTC
Same mission as today, slightly edited so everyone doesn't get REMOVED right away
1.5.4 Open beta
Be ready boys
>>147204429
Ebin.
>>147204414
>average Bf109 landing
>>147204414
Does the BMS torrent include everything I need, or do I also need a Falcon 4 torrent or whatever?
>>147205525
>do I also need a Falcon 4 torrent
Yes, why the fuck would the BMS team also give you a torrent of Falcon 4?
>>147205698
>Yes, why the fuck would the BMS team also give you a torrent of Falcon 4?
I assumed the link in the OP, being from 4chan, may have put the two into a single download for expediency.
>>147205810
Why would anyone do that?
>>147205342
>>147206016
Because it's no skin off our nose and allows players to get set up much faster.
It's not like they're going to sue /simg/
>>147206082
>We just dinged them!
Good to see ricochets are modeled in the game.
>>147197553
what the hell was that
>>147206668
Check the archives.
>>147206082
M-2000C?
>>147206117
Again, why would anyone make a combined torrent when both the BMS and the GOG torrents are well seeded? It's nothing but a waste of upload speed.
>>147207476
MiG-29
Cobra's response to the viggen
>Actually, the aircraft is feature complete. (apart from some issues with Ground Radar) We're mostly working on bugs. Visuals are what have been lagging behind the 3-4 months.
I still doubt we will see it ever.
>>147207698
Because there's no link to the other torrents in the OP, creating the ambiguity I just asked about.
"Here's a link to an add-on, fuck off and find an actual torrent yourself" is hardly the fastest way to get people flying.
>>147207704
Sorry I meant did you engage a M-2000C or did you engage a MiG-29?
>>147207843
That was an F-18
>>147207803
>waah mommy pls spoonfeed me
>>147208204
If you're going to be like that, why include a link to BMS at all?
>>147208276
Because you have to register in a turbocuck forum AND post a few times before being able to get the BMS DL links.
>>147208523
And you expect to be spoonfed just because you're too lazy do to that yourself? Fuck off, babby.
>>147208594
It's not a matter of lazyness, it's a matter of pricinple you dense retard. Don't bother with replying to this post, I won't argue any further with you as it'd be a waste of time.
>>147208752
"babby" and the fact you were replying to a rhetorical question should have indicated that perhaps I wasn't being entirely serious, angry anon.
>>147208020
>>147209045
>>147209045
>>147210053
>he didn't hover right in front of you for giving you F R E E laser eye surgery
Pls
Sink rate, sink rate!
>>147212810
PULL UP
PULL UP
>>147212810
>>147212921
Too low terrain
BEEP BEEP
>>147212810
>>147212921
>>147213297
GLIDE-SLOPE. GLIDE-SLOPE.
>>147212810
>>147212921
>>147213297
>>147213462
BANK ANGLE.
BANK ANGLE.
>>147212810
>>147212921
>>147213297
>>147213462
>>147213845
TOO LOW, GEAR
TOO LOW, FLAPS
TOO LOW, GEAR
TOO LOW, FLAPS
>>147214781
>>147214994
>>147214994
ANALOGICAL
>>147214994
>>147215176
>>147215726
How does the BMS Mirage 2000 compare to the DCS one?
>>147211083
>not booping his snoot
How do you guys make webms?
>>147217203
Google 'WebM for retards'
>>147217203
Google "Google 'WebM for retards'"
>>147217203
Leave your gifs overnight in the upload queue.
Is there a more recent version of the Mirage 2000 English cockpit mod that works with the Open Beta? The lights are broken with the one I have.
>>147215176
webms are too complicated
>>147218493
>take video
>use the webm for retards program
>webm comes out
Its too easy dude
>>147219214I did it
>>147207723
>every single other fucking DCS module in existence ever has had visuals done, or at least done to a showable level, before systems modelling has been finished
>>147220408
Maybe their model tanks FPS so hard they dare not release it and have to redo it from scratch.
>>147216119
Surely someone here knows?
sorta obs habbenin
>>147220862
What sorta ops
I like this webm thing
>>147220408
It's as if stystems modeling isn't hands down the hardest part of making a late 3rd gen jet module.
Also IIRC all of the Leatherneck staff has actual day jobs.
>>147221157
From Cobra himself, LNS has quite a few full time employees.
But yeah, the systems are the hard part, especially considering they're trying to do (I say trying, because I seriously doubt it will work well) ground radar before ED does. Why the fuck don't they have a 3d model ready?
>tfw you sanitize an ally's six
What mods do you guys have in BMS?
>>147222032
Obligatory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqdsTwyA5-U
I just have the Balkans theater, didn't really see any mods that got my fancy.
>>147222562
A must, obviously.
Jokes aside, have you checked stuff like JanHas' weapon upgrades? Bit of a hassle to mod model by model, but it's kinda worth it.
>>147222680
>have you checked stuff like JanHas' weapon upgrades
Not until now, no. To be honest I just got into BMS a few days ago and was more interested in learning how to get the Viper into the air and fly a successful mission. (It's a pretty damn good feeling.)
My short visit to the forums' mod section was more of a novelty affair.
What aircraft could conceivably expand the Korea Jet roster?
Like, the Meteor and the Vampire are obvious enough, I guess stuff like the F-80 would work but it'd get slaughtered by the Fagot. The F-9F?
So I'm sure I ducked in here once and someone said something like "Gaijin concluded the performance gap between the Korean war era jets and WW2 jets was too large..."
Assuming I'm not confusing myself or making things up, what changed to make them go "...But fuck it, let's throw them in anyway"?
>>147224260
/wtg/ pls go
>>147224260
Wrong thread, ladmate.
Also they said they don't want afterburners, everything else is fair game.
MiG-21 PVP OPS WHEN
>>147224136
>F-9F
The actually good version of it never fought in Korea, I don't remember if the shitty straight wing one saw combat. I'd say A1D, F-84 (while I find it vomit inducing it did most of the ground attack) and F4U.
>>147225205
>>147225274
>the blast didn't affect the Ka-50 at all
Digital Combat """""Simulator"""""
How do you record your gameplay footage before webm'ing it?
Fraps records good for me, but the massive filesize is a turnoff for longer recordings, whereas open broadcasting studio lags the footage even when it lets the game play fine.
>>147225813
Shadow play.
>>147225724
My record was 4 meters for this OP
>>147225813
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Unregistered Hypercam 2
>>147216503
>dicking around in SABOW trying to reteach myself how to play
>M60A1
>designate target for gunner, gunner lays the gun on target, start to find the range
>realize the gunner is holding the gun high and to the left of the target despite it not moving
>redesignate, he moves it to the right side of the target this time
why
>>147225813
I use OBS and set qf to lossless
>>147226909
You suck and he hates you.
Did they die to end Nazism /simg/?
>>147229950
It's a better story than the truth.they died for nothing.
On the other hand, the truth makes it all the more sombre, increasing the impetus that we never do it again.
>>147226909
I'd rather be the gunner myself for the time of the engagement, designating targets for range from the commander. Unless you're LARPing a tank commander, of course.
>>147230061
>increasing the impetus that we never do it again
but then how do you deal with the overpopulation?
>>147230241
Well now, if we look to the actual things the Nazis fought...
Anybody want to give HMS Marulken a shot?
>>147230136
I dunno switching positions is always a cock because then the AI starts doing shit I don't want it to do and the view from the commanders cupola is better.
>page 10
>>147230241
Terraform and colonize Mars.
>>147230241
We just stop feeding all the africans?
>>147234349
>>147234663
>2061
>telephone chordI like it.
>>147181694
>no MiG
Because everyone has it now.
WHY CANT I MATCH MY AIRSPEED WITH THE FUCKING RETURN PRECONTACT GAY TANKER
>>147236260
>not using RADAR to fry the balls off the Tanker in revenge
weak tbqh
>>147235435
And?
>>147230625
KEK
Can't wait for the f14
>>147236260
>You finally manage to latch
>You finally take fuel
>RETURN PRE CONTACT
RETURN PRE-CONTACT
RETURN
PRE
CONTACT
>>147238338
brrrrrrry
>page 10 again
>>147236487
>And?
Would you bang a gal, knowing that everyone you know also banged her?
People who play CAP in OPS need to git gud desu
>>147242740
Multirole ops when?
Fishbed escorting GRATSHI when?
>>147225205
>>147225274
>>147225724
So for those who playtested the op yesterday after I had to leave, how did you feel about the mission? Specifically the difficulty or anything like that.
ALTITUDE, ALTITUDE!
>>147250558
MAKSIMALNIYI UGOLO ATTAKIY
F5 when
Zapros dozapravki
Page 10 yet again, is no one W O K E?
>>147253814
I'm W O K E but I'm also W O R K
>>147253814
ops when
/simg/ meetup when?
>>147255954
Hopefully never
>>147255954
>/simg/ meetup
>>147255954
>closest /simg/ poster to me is greg
no thanks
>>147255954
I'd like to keep internet shit on the internet.
>>147255954
I'd sooner attend a /jp/ meetup.
>>147204429
gotta fire 2 at a time
>>147226295
>interest in BoS evaporated
>>147258412
Wish I had the video of the Lagg (iirc) pulling a full negative G loop without problems. It was fixed of course but it was fun.
>>147258412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Mn53ChAYE
Come on. You can't pull this shit in dcs.
>>147257649
You can only carry 1
Did anyone have to do anything special when installing drivers for the X52 on windows 10? I see a bunch of horror stories online, but I am hoping those are from a time when they hadn't released official W10 drivers yet. Any experience here?
>>147262042
>Did anyone have to do anything special when installing drivers for the X52 on windows 10?
I have the pro. The only special thing for me was having to reinstall the drivers because the first time the mouse nipple refused to work in any of the sims (regardless of whether it was unprogrammed, fallback, bands, mouse mode or whatever)
It was working in the control panel and the profile editor but only there.
After the reinstall it's all cool though.
pǝʇɹǝʌui sɐʍ I ǝsnɐɔǝq
ATTENTION PLANEFAGS
OPS REMINDER
OPS TODAY AT 22:00 UTC
SAME MISSION AS TODAY WITH LATER F-14A SPAWNS AND MiG-21 SLOTS
1.5.4
BE THERE, WE NEED YOU
Caution, caution
>>147265667
open beta?
>>147266294
Yes
That is what 1.5.4 implies
Free yourself from ED cuckings and embrace the new features.
>>147266294
Yes. We flew yesterday and didn't encounter any issues.
>>147242720
>posted from my babby cliffs plane that literally everyone has
>>147267304
>still haven't bought flaming cliffs
Seems a little expensive for not having switches to click
>>147267523
>F-15
>Su-27
>Su-33
>MiG-29
>A-10
THIS IS NUMBER THREE REQUESTING PERMISSION TO LAND OVER~
>>147267763
>forgetting su25, the best fc3 plane
NUMBER FOUR HERE HEY TOWER DO I HAVE PERMISSION TO LAND OVER
>>147268843
>ground pounding
>>147269276
>Ground removing
fixed.
>>147269276
>fighter nigger calling anyone else a pleb
Oh the irony.
Remind me which pylons on su-27 create the most drag?
>>147269646
The ones under the engines.
>>147269276
I don't get it.
>>147267763
>>A-10
>>147269856
>I don't get it.
Open the image he posted.
>>147269729
Thx senpai.
>>147270040
He didn't bring out his hot opinions on ground pounding when the A-10 was mentioned, now was he?
>>147269276
"I don't play DCS for ground attack, I play it for super epic ace dogfighting"
>clubbing dumbass AI ground targets
>not preferring glorious aerial dogfights against other players
>>147271095
>launch slammer/R73/R27ET
>barrel roll while dispensing chaff/idle throttle and spam flares
>loool this is so ebun xdd
>>147271095
Mate have you ever even played DCS multiplayer?
ARE OPS TONITE?
>>147271420
>>147271683
It's okay anons, not everyone has the skill level needed to fight on the bleeding edge of modern combat
>>147271095
This is your brain on Ace Combat
are there any VODs of OPS mentioned in the thread?
>>147271827
desu senpai Ace Combat requires about as much skill as ground pounding does
>shitposting intensifies
Just bump the thread when it's on page 10.
>>147271807
>drakeposting
>typing like a nigger
No wonder your IQ is less than 75.
>>147271807
>bleeding edge of modern combat
>implying air-to-air engagements are even going to be relevant in the near future
>implying the Navy isn't letting their adversary squadrons die slowly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCDDbuHKGlU
Resident /simg/ creator and taker of bait here with a reminder that this:
>>147269276
>>147271095
>>147271807
>>147272034
is absolutely bait. Do not respond. Do not get upset.
If you have any other bait related questions, you can reach me at 1-800-307-BAIT
>>147272643
Imagine being so terrible at flying that the only thrill you can get is beating up on new people. That your peak is just picking on the new guys, while simultaneously embracing the edginess of being "the bad guy" in an all black plane.
>>147272729
>bait
>there are people in this general RIGHT NOW that prefer ground pounding to air to air combat
disgusting
>>147272729
I believe he's 100% serious which is sad.
>>147273114
I roll both ways.
>>147273391
Please, elaborate on how ground pounding is more skillful and fun than dogfighting then.
>>147271807
>Baby Cliffs
>modern combat
You are a special kind of idiot
mommy and daddy stop fighting, you can be an air ace and the menace of the ground in the Mig-21!
OPS ASSEMBLING GET IN TS
OPS START 22:30 UTC OR SO
GET IN TS
>>147274254
nice reaction may mays dude xDDD
>>147274742
OPS
GET IN TS
>>147274908
GET IN TS
GET IN TS
GET IN TS
>>147274485
>he can't even get a2a kills in a dumbed down airplane
>implying I'm flying FC3 planes
I just pity you
>>147275169
GET
IN
TS
>>147275484
GET IN TS
>get on ts
>it's another "people posting cockroach porn" episode
I hate this show
>>147275435
In which plane do you experience these glorious aerial engagements?
>>147276131
F-15.
>>147276131
>mirage
>mig-21
I also fly all the FC3 fighters, but mirage is the best.
>get in ts
>it's another "people post vehicles, airplanes and cockroach porn images" episode
>>147276454
I LOVE this show!
>>147276295
>mirage 2000, mig-21
>modern air combat
Still a special kind of idiot.
OPS HAPPENING NOW
GET IN TS
GET IN TS
GET IN TS
OPS HAPPENING
OPS HAPPENING
>>147277631
>open beta
>>147275435
>>147271807
post your stats my dude
>>147273114
Air to air combat is superior. So long as you're in WW2 or WW1 planes
>>147281325
>>147281380
>he doesn't practise proper energy management and aerial gunnery
Fucking jet plebs I tell ya
>>147281325
A2A won't let me scream POO IN THE LOO while dropping jury rigged toilet bombs on shitskins.
>>147281459
>comparing modern BVR/BFM to WWII dogfights
They are pretty damn different dude.
>>147281631
Dive bombing is also baller as fuck
>>147281648
I know which is more fun though
>>147281738
That is your opinion though.
>A/A vs A/G argument
>these bitch niggas forgetting the true patricians are the SEAD drivers
>>147281842
>sead
>lock radar signature from miles away
>launch missile
>try not to fall asleep
>>147281825
BVR is fun when the weapons used present an actual threat. so basically in a game that isn't DCS.
As it stands I think the game of chess that is a pre missile era dogfight is infinitely more tense, engaging and fun.
>>147281892
>relying on pussy-ass ARMs
>not going full wild weasel and killing SAMs with CBUs, rockets, and cannons
>>147281738
>Dive bombing is also baller as fuck
My favourite things are dive bombing, torpedo runs and doing wild weasel.
>>147281842
SEAD/DEAD is relaxing as hell, but that's it. Not much excitement there.
At least the Beryoza sings nice lullabies.
>>147282054
I did my first ever dive bomb sortie in the Stuka in BoS a few days ago, came right out my pass into a dogfight, it was amazing.
>>147281842
SEAD in DCS is a fucking joke. SEAD in BMS is alright. SEAD in WW2 sims is suicide.
>>147282054
>torpedo runs
>not baller as fuck skip bombing
>>147282182
>>torpedo runs
That's exactly what I said, congratulations.
>>147282359
>reading comprehension
>>147282386
>still insisting on dictating what I like
Step back, nigga.
>>147282525
>insisting on dictating what I like
Nigger you're dense as fuck.
>>147282763
Yeah, because you didn't just madly imply that your skip bombing is superior to my silly torpedo runs and I should be ashamed.
>tfw no comfy Rise of Flight ops to mark centenary of the Somme
>>147282974
That isn't "dictating what I like", that is calling your taste inferior.
Ka-50 S T R O N G
>>147284354
tfw /simg/ will probably never do Korea ops because you shits would rather buy dumb trainers instead of beautiful old 2nd gen fighters that require skill and are pretty much only gun kills.
Do OPS take any special preparations/are they centralized by one guy or can anyone start a thing?
(I'm just curious, I have no intention, good enough internet, or skill to actually do one.)
>>147285790
We will do pretty much anything senpai, if someone has a cool mission we'll play it. Also you can give this mission to someone else to host.
>>147274254
Arguably, it's harder to dodge someone flinging AAA fire at you from a fixed position than to dodge another aircraft moving freely.
(Because counter intuitively, the AAA firer just has to point at you and shoot, whereas the other pilot can be confused into wasting energy and putting himself in a position where firing isn't viable.)
This is talking as someone who tends to stick to flying near the ground because it's easier to avoid pre-known AAA locations entirely in SF2, though. (also, in SF2 enemy fighters get really confused when you fly low. if you're hit bad, you should fly low and slow with flaps out and gear down because MiGs will always try to match your low speed and often end up crashing.)
>>147285781
I'll do Korea ops when more than 4 fucking people fly the Fagot/Sabre.
>sit on enemy F-15s six for about 5 minutes because he can't shake you
>Winchester the entire time
>get bored and ram him
That could've gone better
>>147285781
>being this autistic about "muh old days"
uninstall you're life
The Ka-50 is neat right? It's this nice advanced helicopter, it's hard to believe this thing came out of the soviet union.
Until you realize that the 30mm cannon on it is literally ripped off of a BMP-2. #JustSovietThings
>>147288547
>30mm cannon is ripped off BMP-2
That means it's very advanced, тoвapищ. BMP-2 most advanced, BESTest IFV today.
>>147288876
Wait this means
Ka-50 is literally a flying BMP
This is how we take over the Caucasus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVH6qyNfjk
Bodied.
>>147291437
>that dude at 2:20 carrying a bush above his head thinking it'll keep him safe
toppest of keks
>>147288547
It's also the same gun as the Mi-28.
>>147289014
>Ka-50 is literally a flying BMP
That'd be the Hind.
>>147293667
Hind doesn't have the same 30mm gun.
>>147294032
But it was designed from the very beginning as a flying IFV.
>>147294087
Flying IFV doesn't make it a flying BMP
After failing comfy rain ops 4 times for a multitude of reasons, would simg be interested in any other sort of ops scenario?
>>147294613
I'd be interested instableops
>>147295179
Next friday
be sureThe open beta is surprisingly stable and brings in a TON of improvements. Consider installing it, I'd say it's worth it.
>10
Random ass OP we found on the net
Ka-50s
A-10C
Su-25T
F-15C
JOIN SHITTERS
Is there a way to turn on the Su-25T periscope without also turning on the mirrors?
>you will never be a fighter pilot
>you will never travel at incredible hihgh speed
>you will never have the balls and brains to master a jet fighter
>you will never be so confident in your abilities that you can learn to fly anything
>you will never tell stories about the places you've been, people you've met, and the things you've done as an aviator
>the closest you will get is putting around in the suburban dad-tier Cessna 152
>you will always watch military flights and airshows with a sense of intense jealousy mixed with admiration
just obliterate my shit
>A-10s were initially an unwelcome addition to many in the Air Force. Most pilots switching to the A-10 did not want to because fighter pilots traditionally favored speed and appearance. In 1987, many A-10s were shifted to the forward air control (FAC) role and redesignated OA-10. In the FAC role the OA-10 is typically equipped with up to six pods of 2.75 inch (70 mm) Hydra rockets, usually with smoke or white phosphorus warheads used for target marking.
>even in the 80's the a-10 was such a meme it was re-purposed just to point at things for F-16s to blow up
God I fucking hate these 104th scenarios over wide open fucking fields, it's literally just F-15s trading 120 kills for a couple of hours
>>147301373
How fucking cucked would you feel if made your way to the target in that ugly ass plane, rolled in for the pass, let those rockets fly, and knew that you were just laying down some smoke to help the fighter pilots?.
That shit would be painful.
>>147301373
holy shit what even is the point
>>147302247
>>147302632
FACA is a very important role for the A-10's as they have a long loiter time and can be used for comms with ASOC and other commands and brief other aircraft.
For instance if you are a JTAC and get an FACA A-10 you can use it to brief other aircraft entering your ACA so you will have less work. Not that other aircraft are not FACA capable but their loiter time usually prevents them to be of much use.
Stupid shit like marking targets with smoke is rarely used as sensors and datalinks became standard.
>>147300898
>You will never fly a 737 or a Lear or any complex jet.
>You'll always run into the odd guy who's a real pilot, and not really a dick, but you always interpret him as posting like a dick because he's verifiably smarter and more talented than you, but you can't treat him like a dick because then you'll look like a dick instead.
UGH
>>147304750
>>You'll always run into the odd guy who's a real pilot, and not really a dick, but you always interpret him as posting like a dick because he's verifiably smarter and more talented than you, but you can't treat him like a dick because then you'll look like a dick instead.
Truer words have never been spoken, anon.Nothing like that feeling of inferiority that comes with being interested in aviation and not being any kind of pilot.
We getting a pizza, what ya'll niggas you want.
>>147307315
Cheese and pepperoni, keep it simple. Don't forget the breadsticks and wings.
moniesHere is a CAP flight from today's OP
https://youtu.be/JF3nDBMU8Dw
"I shitpost never" -Craig 2016
>>147300898
Work smart and build your own acrobatic piston plane.
>>147304750
>make an elaborate post on how you don't want to be a dick
>come off as a dick and a sore loser
Loving every laugh.
>>147311539
>don't want to be a dick
Don't want to be SEEN as a dick.
I'm fully aware that I am a dick with a massive inferiority complex.
>>147309828
I'm surprised he didn't shitpost in response to >>147302020.
what is the best flight sim?
are there any that aren't 10+ years old and don't look like shit?
>>147309828
t.delusional furboo
>>147314281
>people exist in this universe that are physically attracted to these images
where did we go so wrong.
big bang 2 fucking when
Why does BMS setup always stop responding during "verifying integrity of downloaded files"?
(for reference, I don't have a full F4 install set to verify, just the .exe in a folder, but that wouldn't explain why it was crashing on verifying the downloaded files, which I can only presume are BMS ones.)
Note to self: Configure controls before boarding aircraft.story: loaded the landing training mission, once in plane tested joystick which had not been automatically configured. When that failed, attempted arrows, WSAD, IKJL and numpad for primary controls and +/- for throttle but none worked, although I found < > for rudder. On lowering gear, the nose dipped and I decided I wasn't going to make the field so pulled the eject handle. I am sure the USAF will understand that this was a regular error that could happen to anybody, and not be too upset about their ~$20,000,000 write off.
Nailed it.
>>147318851
>slammers on the wingtips
For what purpose
>>147319084
The scenario started with them for whatever reason.
>>147319084
You shoot them off first freeing up the wingtips.
>>147291437
>Tfw the US used this video to say that it was them who destroyed the convoy.
MATT IS CUTE
CUTE
>>147319084
Apparently that is the proper way.
I always assumed sidewinders where on the wingtips too.
>>147319321
Yup. Every single news site claimed this was a US air strike. Pretty sad.
Wew, I actually killed something!Read: 1 of 2 AIM-9Xs and 0 of 2 AiM-9Ps hit their target, and I had to swap to air to ground mode to get the gun, then use guesswork instead of the reticule to fire it to finish it off because I still don't really know what I'm doing.
I have a massive hard-on for flying boats. Is the Felixstowe in Rise of Flight any good or should I stay away from RoF whatsoever?
I don't mind the WW1 era.
>>147322346
Rise of Flight is amazing. Haven't flown the flying boats but you can have players man the guns for you
>>147319723
Why would you put the heavy shit on the wingtips? That negatively affects your rolling capability.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTFRjW28mTQ
W I L L Y
>>147319401
Your statement doesn't have a leg to stand on
>Tfw discovered the use of the randomisation in DCS mission maker
It's so much more fun now going on a mission not knowing what shit your gonna encounter
>>147319401
Matt is a cunt and possibly the main reason why DCS' english public relations is so godawful.
>>147324409
Fuck off Petrosyan, that almost made me chuckle.
>>147323863
109s are the only planes which make me feel comfy.
>>147324516
I fucking love the 109 but it makes me feel like the exact opposite, as in always on the edge. Especially the early versions that don't even have the ADI.
>that constant need of controlling the prop pitch as the autoregolator is fucking garbage
>carpal tunnel from having to continuously use the rudder (unless you like going slow)
>no aileron/rudder pitch
>have to use the radiator as airbrake
>"every landing you can walk away from is a good landing"
>>147322828
Because you'll fire them off first, there are also G limits to take into account, weapons getting ripped off your wings and all that.
>>147324641
The lack of trim isnt an issue for me. Actually I felt uncomfortable when I used the trim option in other planes since it changes the behavior of the plane at different speeds and I hate having to fix it so often.
Mostly havent found the prop pitch thing annoying either, it feels like controling the shifts of a car. It's annoying when I cant adjust it fast enough though.
>>147325095
For me, trimming is kind of a second nature, in the 109 and the 190 I really feel the lack of being able to trim even if they were designed without having the need to trim (as changing RPM and speed causes slight asset variations that you have to manually correct, and if you ever get hit in a wing and survive you're in for a lot of fun). There is a reason why practically every modern plane has manual trim controls for every kind of control surface, even shit with autotrimming/FBW.
As for the prop pitch, planes with constant speed propellers tend to automatically adjust the pitch with the option of manually changing it for circumstances such as getting in dives or climbing, while the 109 seems to have a preset RPM setting per throttle setting, which is annoying as fuck (as you said if you overrev the engine even for a few seconds you're fucked, that's why I use the autoregulator during combat) and inefficient (see cruising).
>>147324674
But that is assuming you'll necessarily have to fire them. Though I guess it's fair to have them in the wingtips and carry groundpounding ordnance in all of the wing pylons.
>>147325680
Even with an air2air loadout, the aim-120s go on the tips instead of aim9s.
>>147325756
Really, proofs? Also, if that is the case for example why did Tomcats carry the Phoenixes under their belly and Sparrows on the wing pylons instead of the other way around?
>>147325942
>Really, proofs?
I don't know man, common sense.
>Also, if that is the case for example why did Tomcats carry the Phoenixes under their belly and Sparrows on the wing pylons instead of the other way around?
Because they are heavy and big as hell maybe?
You get lot's of drag and reduced roll rate, especially with a missile that size, also more Gs on a missile which it will get the farther it is from the center of the airplane will reduce it's useful life.
>>147326284
>common sense
Common sense leads me to believe that you'd ideally put heavy ordnance close to the center of gravity.
>You get lot's of drag and reduced roll rate
And that's why I find it kind of hard to believe that AIM-120s mounted on the wingtips are SOP. I can understand putting them there if they can tolerate more Gs, but won't typical A2A payloads consist in 4 slammers anyway?
First vehicle footage of Squad released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1e_XzpdrXA
https://joinsquad.com/readArticle?articleId=104
>>147327107
>Common sense leads me to believe that you'd ideally put heavy ordnance close to the center of gravity.
But you aren't getting the whole picture
It's like this.
More missiles on the plane higher wingloading, more missiles at the ends of the wing higher wingloading, missiles at the wing tips reduce roll rate and reduce the amount of Gs it can pull because it can rip the missiles off potentially damaging the aircraft.
Putting the missiles that are going to be fired off first at the wingtip pylons makes sense because you'll reduce the wingloading quickly if the need for WVR fighting becomes needed, so that the aircraft will be able to roll faster and pull more Gs.
Just look at pictures of F-16s with aim-120s they are almost always on the wing tip pylons.
>>147327265
>Vehicles guise
>Humvee
call me when they have something more than fucking jeeps.
>>147327901
But what if you get into a merge? If we go by your logic the heaters will be mounted on the wing pylons and missiles that are mounted there might come off if you pull too many Gs. Moreover Sidewinders are much lighter than slammers and that would take care of the higher wing loading due to having heavy shit at the wing's extremities.
And now for something genuinely retarded:
>early straight winged US jets with fuel tanks mounted at the wingtips, which would sometimes also combine fuel tanks with rocket pods
>>147328169
They don't expect to go into a merge with the amraams on?
>>147328404
Don't be dense.
Read this again:
>heaters will be mounted on the wing pylons and missiles that are mounted there might come off if you pull too many Gs
>>147328169
So you fire the slammers at shit before it can merge. Fuck man, it's as if you're not even thinking about how air combat works
>>147328574
Yeah, he's saying that slammers being fired from the wing tips reduces the wing loading for a merge a lot quicker and more so than I'd you had heaters there. You fire the wing tip ones first because then you actually won't have them when you merge
>>147328685
Are you purposefully ignoring the point I'm trying to make? You're much more likely to pull high Gs during a merge, and if your AIM-9s are mounted in the pylons under the wings they're much more likely to (presumably) get rendered unusable or come off. That's why I find logical to carry them at the wingtips and the slammers under the wings (at least in a pure air to air configuration), as you wouldn't need that much maneuverability while supporting them (the 120s), and by the time you fired all of them and got in a merge the wingloading caused by the Sidewinders would be negligible.
>>147328890
No the missiles at the wing tips are likely to come off.
>>147329171
>the missiles at the wing tips are likely to come off.
>>147324674
>there are also G limits to take into account, weapons getting ripped off your wings and all that.
Make up your mind.
>>147329229
Are you honestly this dense?
>>147329254
Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>147329339
Are you or are you honestly retaded?
I don't know how else to explain this dead fucking simple concept.
>>147329509
I'm done.
>>147329421
I could say the exact thing about you, it's not like I'm trying to get my point through for about half an hour if not more. And to add to it, if carrying heaters on wingtips is such a bad idea then why was the Viper and plenty of other US jets originally armed with just those and the internal gun(s)?
>>147329593
Thanks for wasting my time.
>>147328890
>put lighter missiles on wingtips.
>they're further out from the body so give a higher wing loading and will be more likely to come off while pulling G
>not putting the BVR missiles there so by the time you get into the merge the heavier missiles are gone
You're seriously fucking retarded senpai
>get the Ka-50
>go into the tutorial
>Matt was replaced by some squeaky cunt who can't pronounce shit right
Want my money back to be honest
>>147329716
adding to this the lighter missiles not being on the tips still gives an overall lower wing loading once you've loosed the slammers and therefore you'll be much better off in a merge
>>147329716
>put Sidewinders on underwing pylons
>pull 9Gs
>Sidewinders get ripped off
Again, if putting Sidewinders on underwing pylons is such a good idea why do the early F-16s and the F-5 carry them on the wingtips?
Also
>senpai
>types like a nigger and calls other people rearded
>>147329863
Stop acting like a retard if you don't want to be called one then you fucking spastic The early F-16s and F-5 carry AIM-9 on the wingtips because they can't carry any other A2A missiles.
You should be given a plant to carry around to replace the oxygen you waste.
>>147330109
Now I'm 100% that I was being baited all along. Again, thanks for wasting my time.
>>147330160
>posts bait
>says I'm baiting
What the fuck. Tell me what was bait then
>>147328685
>>147328530
>>147327901
>>147326284
>>147329716
>>147330284
>he hehe I won't argue back with a coherent point but instead call him out as baiting
>that'll show him, I'm such a master debater
>>147330376
That's not me, I never posted a bait image in my life, and I said I was done with arguing with you, have a last pity reply.
>>147330470
ok but you lost because you failed to argue back and called my points bait.
just some helpful feedback for your next shitposting session
>>147330836
>you failed to argue back
I did and you conveniently handwaved it.
Why am I replying to you again. Seriously kill yourself and remind me to never engage in serious discussion with you retards ever again.
>F-5E documentation got released
>not a peep on /simg/
stop shitposting and start talking about airplanes you fucks.
>>147331063
LINK
>>147331227
http://www.belsimtek.com/news/1643/
>>147331015
I didn't conveniently handwave it.
Your argument is that if the heaters on the tips isn't a good idea then why did the F-16A and F-5 do it.
To which my reply was both of those aircraft could only fire Sidewinder as an air to air armament
OPS
TONIGHT????
>>147331406
Tonight
What's the best beginners dcs module to get?
>>147332718
Sabre or MiG-15bis desu
>>147332718
Mig21
>>147332718
FC3 simply because it gives you a wide range of options so you can play most OPS with us, ontop of teaching you the basics of aerial combat tactics without having to worry about which switch to put where initially.
>>147332718
Seconded for FC3 don't listen to anyone else, get FC3 first it will be the easiest to learn and will make you the most useful in ops. Move on to a clicky after you are completely comfortable with FC3
>>147165909
That's not how torrents work. More people downloading should make it faster.
>>147331319
>To which my reply was both of those aircraft could only fire Sidewinder as an air to air armament
If that is not handwaving I don't know what is. The actual answer is that it was thought that loading more than 2 air to air missiles would've compromised the maneuverability characteristics, and the wingtips are the best places for mounting missiles as mounting them close to the center of gravity was impractical, and mounting them on underwing pylons would've caused additional drag for absolutely no benefit on top of potentially causing problems such as the missiles popping off. That guy is right, you're a retard.
>>147335565
We weren't talking about purely a 2 heater plus guns load out were we for fucks sake. If anything that's moving the goalposts.
Granted yes if you carry only 2 missiles those are the best places to put them. But with slammers they're heavier and wing loading plays a role too due to weight differences in the missile
/simg/ was a mistake
>>147336335
>If anything that's moving the goalposts.
No it isn't, we were talking about air to air configs and arguing on what would be best for after the merge. But at this point what is even the point of arguing with you given that you pretty much either twist or ignore every argument that is presented to you?
>>147301373
That's fucking hilarious
>b-but, m--m-m-m-m-uh...
>MUH BRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTT
>tfw got the DH2 & E.III + some other shit -pack thing in the steam sale
Now to find the effort to plug in my stick and trackir.
>>147337849
It would've probably costed you less to buy it from their website. It's good to see RoF love here though.
>>147337951
5 bucks for 4 or 5 planes, ehhh good enough. I just wanted to use up this really old giftcard I had.
>>147337849
>MOUSEAIM
>>147338065
Don't worry I'm plugging in my fanatec wheel and pedals to play some assetto corsa right now.
PULLUPPULLUP
Do most of you play RoF on Steam or did you get the standalone from their site?
how the fuck do you do aerial refueling
>>147343269
I only ever played standalone because I heard the steam version has exclusive bugs.
>>147343314
stop midair, get out with your jerrycan and fill'er up
>>147343314
Very carefully.
memes
>>147343314
F-15C in DCS? Impossible.
Su-33? Piss easy.
Mirage? Challenging but doable.
>>147332718
None. Learn the 25T first. Then get the MiG-21 (protip: there's a method for getting it for free, ask he TS fags) and maybe Babby Cliffs (there is a reason if it has that monicker). I'd second the Fagot or the Sabre if they actually had fucking *something* to do.
>>147343269
I got my content through steam and it's not cross compatible. It goes cheaper on their store now.
>>147344557
>now
The store has always been cheaper. IIRC if you nag them they will move your steam content to the standalone too but don't take that for granted.
>>147344514
Someone needs to make us some Korea mods. we could use the WWII ground units pack?
>>147344656
Ah well. desu I already have a lot of the planes I really want so I don't think it'll be much of an issue if I wanna keep to the steam version.
>>147344679
Ayup. If only the faggot that handles the pastebin added it after I asked him to (like 4 times counting this one).
>check out RoF because I'm into the history of American/French aces and the Spad XIII
>assume I'll have to buy it because of how iconic it was
>It's free with the game
thank you, jesus
>>147345709
Sopwith Camel is my biplanefu in that game desu
>>147345805
>RoF airship ops never
>>147346232
just fuck me up senpai
>>147346232
We could do Zveno ops in IL-2 1946.
Lerche OPS when
>>147346887
Oh dear god please no. Everything but that.
What about this? Ohka strike on a US carrier group. Two of us fly the bakas, the rest flies N1Ks, the G4Ys are flown by the AI because who the fuck cares if they get shot down.
Bonus points if one of the Okhas manages to at least get to transonic speed.
>>147347486
Pls respond
>>147348385
>Baka
Were they even serious?
>>147348965
It just means idiot and that was the allied designation not the japanese one, so yeah probably.
Why are we so fucking dead today? I don't remember the thread ever being this slow.
>>147351325
Maybe people are doing things with their friends?
ops fucking when?
>>147353736
Tonight, I think?
Operation fucking cutthroat part ad-infinitum
CAP pls don't shit the bed
>>147354056
We got too few people to do that ops and no ground commander. Mainly because it's running on open beta and a lot of people are uneasy downloading it for some reason.
>>147354486
>for some reason
well gee maybe if it wasnt glitchy and crashing
>>147355141
Well, gee, maybe if you weren't so dang autistic
>>147355141
>>147355141
We played that mission 2 or 3 times already in open beta. It isn't glitchy at all.
The crash we had would have probably happened in 1.5.3 just the same.
The beta is fine senpai
>>147355443
gee I'm so glad it works for you, faggot. It doesn't work for me.
>>147355527
What issues are you having?
>>147319084
>>147319252
>>147319723
Slammers are loaded onto the Viper's wingtips for 2 main reasons.
1. A reduction in wing loading, resulting in increased structural efficiency.
2. Reduces flutter by having a heavier store on the tips.
The slight loss of roll performance is worth it because the Viper already has fantastic roll performance thanks to the single engine design. Not to mention it usually has other stores anyway.
>>147356523
THANK YOU
I was arguing for wingtip slammers
How hard is it to configure BMS?
>>147357858
>that bump right in front of the cannon
Jewish design, everyone.
>>147357301
Reading that whole argument was cringe worthy.
>some fags on an anonymous image board think they know more about the F-16 than the fucking engineers
>>147346232
OPS NOW!!
>>147361131
>beta
So is there any way to start BMS parked with engines-off off with everything dark? Or do you always start with some things running?
>>147365558
Is that the gunner or pilot's seat?
>>147337849
How do labels work in multiplayer? Does the creator of the server choose or is it just always on? I've never played RoF.
>>147365927
That's from a singleplayer quick mission. And yeah I would assume it's controlled by the server admin in MP.
>>147365757
Gunner
>>147366123
Figured as much, from what I've seen the pilot's seat in the hind is surrounded by panels absolutely fucking covered in buttons and switches.
>10
Ops happening btw
>how to land the mirage
H
HI
HIN
HIND
HIN
HI
H
N
NE
NEV
NEVE
NEVER
NEVE
NEV
NE
N
OPS
P
S
>tfw can't get over a small dislike for the F-16 because of the export-thing fucking over the F-20
IT'S NOT FAIR
>>147372678
Stop being such a faggot
>>147372356
>>147370513
>tfw you will never fly a Mi-24 in dcs
>you will never invade Afghanistan with it with your fellow soviet comrades
>you will never blow up dirty american funded mudslimes with rockets in the desert
>you will never fly the scariest looking helicopter in existence.
Why even live?
>>147372897
No. The F-20 is cuter and better in a dogfight and cheaper and has the endorsement of Chuck Yeagerand >300 nautical miles combat radius
General Dynamics CHEATED.
>>147373025
From my perspective
>>147373961
>vr with 30 fps
>/simg/ is a band of slavboo cheaters
>they never cheated in BF nuh uh
>>147374332
Gazelle eats frames. As do the flare smokes.Plus I forgot to change my settings from normal playing settings
>>147373498
just remove my shit desu senpai
>>147373961
Why do webms always load to 1 second, then loop around until I reload them?
i.e. it's always 0.0 > 1.0 > 0.0 without ever advancing to the next second until I intervene.
>>147374410
Uninstall your attitude Jester. You are the problem and not /simg/
I expect an open letter of apology else I'll ask the mods to ban you
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>>147373498
>>147374496
>Hind with Fab-500 comes to a hover above you
What is your reaction?
>>147373498
fucking kill me
>>147375240
ask for alan's snackbar
Fuck m8s, why did nobody tell me how fun the cbu-105 is
>>147375240
lay down and wait for my 72 virgins
>>147375697
WCMD is a nice thing and can be used to drop shit from above 20k feet with almost pinpoint accuracy.
Anyone have any tips for A2A combat in the Mirage? Any radar or ECM settings I should be using?
>>147375243
>there will never be a setting or external program for DCS that records everything your gunsight on the Mi-24/Ka-50/AH-1 sees
>we will never be able to make mudslime removal .webms easily
>>147380253
Could you set it up ad-hoc by having your screen recorder set to come on when you pull the trigger?
Possibleops, come to TS.
>>147381839
>when you pull the trigger
>not wanting the entire mission's worth of footage to work with
also I don't know of any program that could record, specifically, the shkval output of the Ka-50 or anything like that.
>>147382239
>not wanting the entire mission's worth of footage to work with
Why would I want gigabytes of useless footage?
Sure, starting about 5 minutes before I shoot would be good, but on-trigger-pull is a good analogue to guncams.
>>147382239
Set the Shkval to export to a second monitor, then capture that entire monitor.
What's the difference between DCS world 1.5 and 2.0? Wich one should I download to test the game?
>>147383684
2.0 requires you to buy sand.
>>147383684
O and beta 1.5
PULL UP
OPS NOW GET IN
I want to play sims
I've played ace combat, but the ww2 vibes of the games don't mesh well and i want to pvp in a skill-requiring environment. To this end, am I correct that ww2 era planes are the best sims to get a taste of real hearty simulated air combat?
>>147390614
kill you're self
>>147390919
Why
I want to fly real planes and dogfight and learn bfms and energy stuff and how to manage different weapons. But I also don't want to fly at 500000000 miles up lobbing amraams for an hour
WW2 sims seem the most visceral because ww2 craft likely to get sims were probably air dominance fighters
>>147390614
DCS world is pretty fun.
>>147391152
>bvr
No thanks senpai
If I wanted that I'd have taken my business degree to the air force
I want to dogfight other people as god intended, without having to make up retarded period rules or be stuck in one meta plane.
>>147391278
I take it back.
see >>147390919
>>147391374
Why though? Are ww2 sims largely about SEAD (>implying it existed) and bombing cities? Or mostly about flying fighters?
>>147390614
Consider IL-2 BoS or CloD
And air combat in modern aircraft WVR is just as challenging, if not more, than WW2 dogfighting. Everything happens a lot faster.
BVR is more of a mind-game if you're playing PvP, it's about knowing when to launch your shit, go defensive, re-engage and whatnot.
>>147391685
So it's not the boring slog everyone says it is? Huh. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Just got my first real person paycheck and I've been looking casually at sims for years. What's a decent tier head tracking setup?
>>147391278
>real hearty simulated air combat
>dogfight other people as god intended
This is your brain on Ace Combat.
>>147391278
>>147391912
>ww2 sims
What else would you do though? Bomb dresden? Get shredded by flak trying to bomb germans? That sounds about as fun as clubbing seals and willingly eating ground glass, respectively
>>147391816
Check the pastebin. I'd say go for that chink seller in ebay or get a more expensive delanclip. Unless you can afford the overpriced shit that TrackIR is.
And don't get me wrong, BVR can be boring, but it's a stressful kind of boring knowing that your enemy could be lobbing AMRAAMs/R-27ETs at you without you knowing. Merges can get quite ugly too if both pilots know what they're doing. WVR in modern aircraft is WW2 dogfighting put on overdrive, basically.
>>147392134
Thanks, anon. The problem with playing BMS or DCS is that you mention you like PvP and suddenly it's
>kill yourself
Why is that? Is it because I liked shit like ace combat and tie fighter growing up? It's not like I think those inform flight sims or anything.
>>147392306
People in this thread immediately associate PvP in DCS with the 104th server, said people don't like said server as it is responsible for bringing in the Cawadoody mindset into DCS MP somewhat, the 104th is always heavily loaded with people flying F-15Cs on both sides, with tends to be considered the aircraft which is easiest to get kills in, with no sort of realism whatsoever.
Not that DCS MP is anything special in it's own btw, DCS has always had a SP focus above all. The AI certainly has it's flaws, sure. But if you underestimate it, you'll get raped just like /simg/ did the last 3 or 4 ops, where a bunch of F-14s absolutely removed everyone from the air and went home practically unharmed.
>>147392940
>SP focus
>No dynamic campaign
>>147392940
>shitters getting btfo by AI
So /vg/'s just mad because they're shit at games? News at 11.
Kek, jokes aside is the F-15C in DCS bad? That kinda sucks, it's a plane I'm pretty fond of.
>>147391278
>>147390614
>>147391816
>doesn't want all that boring shit like looking at the map, navigating to the target and playing spot-the-dot (IL-2) or using the radar (BMS/DCS)
>IL:2 BoS (literally one of the most arcade sims out right now) is a "boring slog"
>still wants le ebin romantic twisting and turning dogfight just like in the movies
>>147393041
Given DCS is based off of TFC's The Battle Simulator, which is aimed at military customers, it's SP element has a much bigger focus on creating scenarios for military training.
>>147393260
It's not bad at all, it's flight model is nice but the system's aren't DCS fidelity. Don't buy only the F-15C though. Get the entire Flaming Cliffs 3 package.
>>147393324
See but that stuff is necessary because you do it to get to the twisty turny bits
The BVR shit ends combat at, well, BVR, mostly.
>>147392059
CAS and naval strikes.
>>147391685
>air combat in modern aircraft WVR is just as challenging, if not more, than WW2 dogfighting
Not even you believe in that.
>Korea map never
>immersive Sabre/Fagot ops never
>you will never experience the perfect blend of incredible hihgh speed and aerial gunnery
why even live
>>147394982
I'd agree that WVR modern combat is just as challenging as WW2 combat, it's WAY faster and you can get killed much easier.
>>147395153
If you got rid of the disgusting F-22 it would be a perfect wallpaper.
>>147395153
How many people have you met in DCS that are half decent at WVR? Most of my merges end up in being turkey shoots as your average DCS shitter has absolutely no idea on what he's doing.
>challenging
lulz i haz radar gunsight and heaters xdd
>>147395517
>disgusting
>posted from my MiG-35
>it's another "a retarded ACfaggot comes to shit up the thread" episode
>>147395650
I like the Raptor, but the F-4 doesn't look good from any angle.
>>147395946
>the F-4 doesn't look good from any angleobvious bait
>>147395886
But he just wants to be a real ace pilto, anon. You know, do all the "bfms and energy stuff".
>>147396905
You don't understand
He's played ACE COMBAT
Happy 4th of July!
>>147398169
and now in webm form
>>147398425
>this is probably it's maximum roll rate
amazing
>>147398425
>that aspect ratio
>>147398580
>implying it needed any sort of roll rate
lol
>burgers are too busy getting ready for july 4th to bump the thread
rip
Kerbul obs, fuck yeah!
>>147403016
It's not like most of yesterday's life support bumps were from yuros.
Is it me or the DCS terrain switcher mod doesn't work with the open beta?
What's a good WW2 flight sim? Thinking about getting IL-2 BoS, also do we ever do WW2 opsbspbspbswarthunder seems like a mediocre sim game
>>147405693
The UI broke it. I tried updating it but didn't release because open beta's UI is rip.
>>147406328
So it wasn't just me, I couldn't even launch the game while I had it active.
>>147406314
IL-2 46 with HSFX and IL-2 CloD+TF.
>>147406462
What makes 46 and CloD better than BoS?
>>147406572
To put it in short, they're not BOS aka "I can't believe it's not Warthunder".
>>147406462
Can you play CloD+TF online without a legit copy? I don't feel the devs deserve the money when the only reason the game is playable is the fact that a mod saved it.
>>147406960
I never tried it so I couldn't tell, but I think the game was made with steam integration from the very beginning. If it's of any consolation '46 has no DRM whatsoever and the devs are mostly the same, except for the modders that officially took over development from the patch 4.09 onwards.
>>147406960
You need the lastest CloD update to run TFmod, otherwise you get a black screen. Never found the update to test if I could play online with a pirated copy so I gave up and got the legit game.
Its 5 bucks on steam right now anyway so its not really expensive.
I just bought BoS becauseI'm a sucker for graphics
>>147408727
>cockpits existing at all in the future
NG has dated itself already
When are CloD+TF servers active? I rarely get a chance to fly and often at odd hours, so there is no point buying it if the community isn't around when I am.
>>147408850
They don't contain pilots, they're export models being tested.
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When Britain elected the Conservative party for a historic seventh term in office on a promise to make it a capital crime to be in receipt of Job-Seekers Allowance or be a part of the Employment and Support Allowance work-related activity group, the export market made it a natural conclusion for Northrop Grumman: Build a fighter aircraft operated by computer, but which contains a human inside it. Multiple manoeuvres in excess of 9G for sustained periods safely ensure that your criminal, dole-bludger or workshy subhuman problems are solved concurrently with your oil supply problems.
The aircraft went on to be a huge success, selling thousands of aircraft in countries as varied as the United States, United Kingdom and Saudi Arabia. This became doubly potent when the aircraft was adapted in 2047 to give it the ability to re-fuel itself using human screams, and triply so when Britain's Channel 5 installed a television camera in the HUD, allowing thousands of people to settle down and watch the workshy get what they deserve.
>>147408950
IIRC there are the most people during euro evening time but you should always find someone online, unlike hyperlobby which is now kinda ded outside of prime time.
>>147409459
doesn't sound too promising for west coast america then. european servers are a nightmare for ping anyway
>>147409563
Still worth a shot if you ask me.
>>147409563
>european servers are a nightmare for ping anyway
TF servers are hosted in USA, I belive. As for the activity, you can check the online players from the TF website and guess.
I've seen around 40 or 50 players at 1800 UTC, dunno if it was a weekend.
https://youtu.be/_g65orE8Qzo
FUCKING SUPER ENTENDARD WHEN??
>war thunder jet combat is still about massive G pulls
LMAO F-15C is true skill ceiling of DCS world.
>>147373498
That picture is from the 2008 russian-georgian war. (yeah I get that it's for illustration, but this is an autism thread so what do you expect)
>tfw you can fly high fidelity Mi-24V mod in EECH
>tfw the only sims people on /simg/ play are fucking DCS and BMS (but the latter only to trigger dcsfags)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnHrCWCwbmQ
>download iL-2 BoS
>most populated MP server has 2 players
and refunded
>>147410024
Um, what the fuck is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3iHs8_2GY
>>147410024
>BMS (but the latter only to trigger dcsfags)
you caught us, we don't actually like bms
>>147410286
Demonstration of the gunners seat of the high-fid Mi-24V mod for Enemy Engaged. Turn on subtitles if don't understand vodka language.
>>147410742
>Turn on subtitles if don't understand vodka language
>There are people RIGHT NOW who doesn't understand vodka.
>>147410742
Does it have multiplayer?
>>147410104
muh grafix
somebody please explain why belsimtek decided to go for the most boring version of the f5
>>147411316
>it's another "waah why aren't they doing my third world shithole's """4th gen""" F-5 episode"
>>147411316
Less work needed and they can still charge you 60$.
Jesus Christ on a stick this steam sale is fucking embarrassing. At least a few of the /simg/ approved games have actually good discounts.
>>147406627
I don't get why people are shitting on BoS so much, it's actually pretty good. 1946 has had its time and should be left alone
>>147414663
I think >>147226295 sums it up pretty nicely.
>1946 has had its time and should be left alone
Try not being so blatant next time.
Is there any way to change BMS key configs in flight?
It's a fucking nightmare to test things by having to exit and go back to the settings menu.
>>147414726
>posting a webm from release
CloD was fucking terrible on release, does that mean it's a shitty game now?
>>147414832
Vanilla CloD is still incredibly shitty and I don't think that something like TF/BMS will come out for BoS anytime soon.
>>147414907
You're genuinely exaggerating how bad BoS is. It's perfectly fine and playable in its current state
>>147414564
Hoping for Steel Armor to go down in price. Still not worth it.
>>147416003
>hoping for shit to go down in price
Steam sales don't work like that anymore kamerad. Try using isthereanydeal or key sites.
>>147410024
how shitty is EECH's flight modelling?
>>147417114
It's so bad it doesn't even interpolate. It snaps from one lift value to another and the engine has 4 variables which it guesses inbetween.no idea
>>147408727
>BoS
>graphics
CloD graphics are arguably better than BoS. BoS have fancy filters that make everything blurry and hard to read. CloD gives crisp and clear image while mantating the same texture quality.
BoS has slightly better physics and DM, but no clickable cockpits.
NEW THREAD
>>147419931
>>147419931
>>147419931
>>147419957
Oh fuck me I realized just now that the new OP doesn't censor the unwanted shit. What do?
>>147420020
OH NO, ITS A DISASTER.no big deal, i hope