/dsg/ - Souls General

1st for fuck memes

Xth for disappointing Faith scaling.

>dork sword nerf
Once again PVE is made less fun and players are given less viable options because of a vocal group of ledditors who can´t stop whining about getting killed in PVP.
If only From would fix objective issues with the game like animations freezing in online play, phantoms not being able to enter fog walls, the netcode in general etc.

Having a few strong PvP weapons like DS will only make you feel more accomplished when you own people that use them. Enjoy with your foam swords reddit!

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Reminder that pontiff duels are not a measurement of skill.

ALRIGHT DSG

I need a fun int weapon

and don't give me any of that *INFUSE A WEAPON W CRYSTAL LEL XD* faggot shit

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>>147120048
I honestly forgot I had one and it's un-upgraded. Let me just slap on refined and level it up and i'll get back to you

>>147120079
I'm honestly shocked. It does 610 ar unbuffed. Then again >split damage

>>147120124
Here you go. Thank god my waifu is NG+3

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>>147120527
heysel pick

it got buffed

>>147120527

Greatsword of Judgment after the patch even though it'll likely be shit still.

If you guys want good faith builds, just go play Ds2

>>147120707
you sure told them

>>147120632
Of course it'll be shit. They didn't add scaling, just increase the damage.

>>147120610
FUCK! I wanna do this, but I didn't kill heysel. GOD DAMMIT (when does that worm appear in rosarias?)

>>147120741
just doing my part in guiding people to the better game ;)

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You're not going to like this.

Why is Dark Souls 2 so unfun? I'm trying to stick it out and finish the DLCs but everything about how it plays fucking sucks cock. My strength build barely feels like one at all and my mastodon greatsword can't fucking stagger anything because everything in sunken king has one thousand poise or something.

I've stopped giving a fuck, how do I make a strangth greatsword build fun or have it absolutely cheese the game?

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When are we getting some DARK SOULS ACTION FIGURES? If there are any /toy/soldiers in the thread, what figures would you want in a release line?

>look at base poise damage on weapons (1hr1s)
>daggers do 7
>whips do 10
>rapiers and fists do 15
>straight swords, spears, curved swords, halberds, shields do 20
>hammers do 23
>great hammers, ultra greatswords, greatshields do 28
>greataxes do 30

What do you think of this system given that Knights start with a little over 20 poise?

>>147121018
you got to be 18 to post mate

>>147121018
Soon. Did you see the news of the Artorias they're building? I think Ornstein's coming too, but that might've just been someone's request.

>>147120964
>198 base damage down from 207
Eh
It's something

Is that 60/60?

>>147121018
I'm looking forward to the board game if they're anywhere near as good as the renders.

>>147120964
Did it even go down?

>>147121018

Namco's apparently going to start merchandising Dark Souls AFTER the games finished up, if their t-shirt line and the comic book is anything to go by.


I'd probably buy an Elite Knight figure, Artorias as well. Maybe an inflatable life-sized Dancer, too.

>>147121067
posts like this are more cancerous than anything Lucifer has ever posted

and he posts shit like this
>>147120880

>>147120964

So I don't have one myself, but looking at the wiki that's like a 9 base AR plus slight scaling loss nerf for that? How's the actual attack speed/stamina consumption, was that changed or not?

>>147120601
How much does the WotG deal from the hammer

>>147121209
come back when you're 18 kid

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eclebs confirmed

SHITTERS
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As an addendum, following the Words of Sanford Kelly 3:14, "Thee shall picketh a top ti'r" as gospel is not recommended if you have severe brain damage.

>>147120707
Shut the fuck up about das2. Faith was heavily nerfed in das2.

I need Souls before I trudge into NG++ to reallocate at Rosaria. I fucked up my last build and as it turns out Pyromancy is garbage supplementary unless both stats are fuck all high. Although CBV has been making co-op boss fights easier.

PS4 user, if anyone wants to co-op for something, set a pass.

>>147121147
>A nerf of 9AR
Why would they even bother listing that in the patchnotes?

>>147121271
LITERAL WHO

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>>147121271
rekt

>>147121271
l0l can't use that footage in the next video !!1!
Srs tho what a faggot.

>>147121271
>didn't point down as he was crystalling out
Ya blew it.

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And last but not least, the Greatsword of Judgement
The buff lasts 35 seconds now and still adds 80 magic damage.

>>147121231
Son of a bitch I posted the wrong picture. It does 1075 to my waifu with 40/30. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmQFmaNUIAEsvWe.jpg

>>147121212
>>147121167
Not sure. I can only swing 4 times without going over my stamina bar with 102 end

Anything else?

>>147121524
He will use it, don't worry. https://youtu.be/SCMScBJHGdQ?t=313

what are the most popular areas for fight clubs?

>>147121691
Highwall and Pontiff

>>147121618
I understand he shows himself getting fuckes sometimes but there's no way he'll use footage of himself BCing out of a legit fight.

>>147121580

>only 35 seconds and not at least a minute

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Damage looks decent at least but I'd still like if the STR/INT scaling got increased further.

>>147121557
hes honestly the only person thats BC's out in my 300+ hours of playtime.

i thought he casted a mirical by accident.

>>147121740
>don't have to attune a spell
>don't have to use a catalyst
>still complains about buff duration

>>147121852

It's pretty short compared to actual buffs still, but I agree it's something. Just not as much something as I expected based on the patch notes, which seems to be the theme of this patch.

>parrynigger sends fanmail

why does this game breed such sore winners? I don't get it.

>>147121524
You're naive. I don't know who it is, but I know the type. He will most likely use the footage, probably with your name censored to "not promote ""the troll,""" accompanied by a 30 minute plus monologue about how it was justified and how players like you are a cancer on the community.

Worse still, if he has a fanbase, they will mindlessly lap it up.

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>>147121740
To be fair you can re-apply the buff while attacking. I wonder if it gets eroded by duel charm though. With 40Str base Dex and 40 int the dmg will be 545

>>147121557
Doesn't even matter really, the camera doesn't linger nearly as long when you BC out as when you die.

>>147121946
I'm just convinced it will never be good.

>>147121852
>attuning the highest level buff requires 1 slot, which is nothing
>using a catalyst would not only add 3 times as much damage, but would last 3 times as long, yet only cost 1/2 more FP
fuck outta here

Are daggers now good for backstabs/parries or do I have to stick to my Big Mashet to do hi-damage on them?

>>147120458
>PvE less fun

Being carried by an absurdly overpowered weapon found in the first quarter of the game is fun?

Straight swords are even more ridiculous offline. Even a longsword cheeses the game easily. You don't need a weapon that gets almost the same AR as a refined weapon investing just in one stat to beat the game.

>Bandit Knife has 120 critical on Ps4 1.09
uhhh
i thought they buffed dagger crits

is anyone elses captcha malfunctioning?

when you do a NG+ do you re-allocate your stats before hand and do a different playthrough every time? i feel like doing the same build every time would get boring

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What would the advantages of a shield that had 100% block in all elements and also negated all stamina drain from blocking attacks be in PvP? Granted, this shield strength would be temporary, but could be recasted fairly quickly.

>>147122475
It was 110 before

>>147122475
nevermind i'm retarded, it has 110 on PC 1.08, i thought it was higher

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>>147122475
Mine is. It's giving conniptions

>>147122475
my captcha has been a pain in the ass all night.

>>147122104
They're feasible. Roughly comparable to big weapon crits, but y'know, they weigh nothing and have quickstep. I think they do benefit more from bundle buffing before ripostes though.

>>147121580
Can you test hammer wotg with 60 faith

>>147122587
I've been having this too but I thought it was just my script blocking messing things up

>>147122525
I would imagine few if any since most players don't use elemental weapons. Turtle poking would still get you ripped apart by someone who can parry you, or they'd just run away till you had to re cast it. Would probably be pretty good for PvE though.

>>147122525
You mean effectively great magic shield from 1?

Nobody would ever use it.

thief bandit knife starting crits on hollows in tutorial
>1.08
309 riposte
254 backstab
>1.09
358 riposte
284 backstab

>>147122656
Morne's hammer WoG should in theory scale with the weapon's AR and not with faith, I'm pretty sure it does physical damage too

>>147122587
>>147122657
Same thing on my end. Just figured .you phone was fucking up. I have to like keep clicking the background to get it to load.

>>147122773
Maybe I'm thinking of the dragon slayer Spears but I thought the Wa scales off of faith

>>147121740
It's very easy to reapply because it's built into the WA attacks and they're both very usable.

It'd be silly if it was 60s considering you reapply it with a fast stab attack that only takes like 15FP

so I'm about to go to NG++ is there anything I should do before I go? I think I have all the items and shit from the story, I mainly just want the rings.

>>147123005
>anything I should do before I go
write me into your will

>>147122909
I'm pretty sure that as I used it while leveling up, moving from 2 handing with 34 str to 50 str to meet the req made the WoG considerably stronger

>>147122794
thank god im not the only one

click the checkbox a bunch of times and it goes to normal

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>>147122656
Sure. Here you go love.

>>147122657
Resetting my settings works for like 2 captchas then it all turns to shit again

>>147123005
Same as NG to NG+, pick up any limited items per NG. Slabs, kill Crystal Lizads, pick up any loose gems, weapons you want duplicates of, armor sets of bosses you might not kill in NG++ for pvp purposes, transpose any weapons you might need, etc.

>>147121209
It's just a little weird you want to buy children's action figure toys

>>147123169
Thanks
>>147123107
Yeah but if you click it too fast it may reset and fuck up again. Have to click it just the right amount of times

>>147121018
I'd rather have a dark sign statue.

>>147123262
I'm not the anon that posted >>147121018 this. But I did respond to him because I respect the fact his interests fall in line with Dark Souls. This is a Dark Souls general, it's weirder to spurn someone for trying to create Dark Souls related discussion. That's why I called Mr.18 and Up cancerous. Because he is.

So I just got to Anor Londo in DS1, how much more is there until end game?

>>147121018
>wanting to play with action figures when you could play the game

>>147119674
Which gives more AR for 60 faith between lothric holy sword and lothric knight sword?

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How are the stoneplate rings in Pvp? I assume they get nerfed into the ground like other defense rings but I just wanted to be sure.

>>147123547
youre half way

have fun in the tomb of the giants

>>147123352
it's also only giving me "click on all store fronts"

>>147122767
Do you have the numbers for pre patch hornet ring backstabs?

WHAT'S THE BEST GEATHAMMER FOR FIGHTS THAT ISN'T MORNE'S OR SMOUGHS?

>>147123616

Even a Blessed infused Lothric Knight Sword would have more AR then Lothric's Holy Sword at any Faith level.

>>147123770
There are others? I suppose you could try Old Demon King's, or Vordt's.

>>147123547
2/3

>>147123770
great club probably

Was the Anri's nerf even necessary? I don't see people use it, it's mostly a PvE tool.

>>147123853
It's objectively the strongest low-level pvp tool.
Anri's in 80 duels was absolute cancer when it popped up.

>>147123853
Yeah, but it made things easier so it had to go.

>>147123853
no speedruns allowed

>>147123770
>>147123814
I use Vordt's.
It's fun.

>>147123776
But LHS was just buffed to scale off faith

>>147123942
>speedrunning 3
ebin meme

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What is the DS3 Equivalent of the Mirdan Hammer (for pve or pvp i don't care)

>>147123962
>Someone uses Vordt's.
Well I'll be. I'm not trying to say its bad because I've never used it, but I've just never seen ANYONE use it. That's pretty cool anon. That's pretty cool.

>>147123989
what? some autist does. and he uses anri

I just learned that daggers have a different moveset when held in the offhand! (some of them, at elast). Is it any good?

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>>147123616
Sorry, but >>147123776 is right. Maybe next update anon

>>147124125
Not really, it looks cool but they have the dumb weapon block instead of a parry or something else useful

>>147123853
>reduced scaling effect
Of what stat? All of them, just one?
Kinda sucks.

xth for faith is still fucking useless

>>147124052
I made a strength character just because of its good scaling and earlygame availability. Then I proceeded to use it for the entirety of NG before.
Frostbit is mostly garbo in that it absolutely cannot be built around but if you treat it like bleed-lite then it can be useful in pvp for free damage if you're aggressive enough. It's probably like my second favorite weapon desu, both aesthetically and otherwise. Just fun to swing around.

>>147124003
Lucerne

>>147123665
Please respond

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Holy shit, NG+6 SoC is the most nightmarish experience I've had in this game so far.

I'm sorry to all the phantoms I've summoned and then died on you. Further apology to all phantoms who didn't know it's NG+6 and died to the first combo.

And finally, thank you, Phantom Kruzty for that Dark Sword carry.

Please comment, like, and subscribe.

>>147124523
upvoted

>>147120880
ay yo whats the H in HBLB stand for
Bloodborne noob here

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>>147124523
>+6
>DLC hasn't dropped yet
Your reasoning being

>>147124513
Only use them if:
A) You have pitiable resist/absorption for a damage type AND
B) If you have a free ring slot with nothing better to put in it
There's a reason no one uses them, other rings are just too valuable to pass up.

>>147124579
Headless.
Because it has no head.

>>147124579
Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower

>install DSFix and DSMFix for DS1
>start new game
>character uncontrollably walks into the wall of my cell in Undead Asylum
wat do

>>147124645
>not doing dlc at NG+7 first time through

>>147124523
wait, you can be summoned to a ng+6 if you arent in the same ng level? so if im sl 102 and you are as well you can summon me?

>>147124723
use a controller

>>147124645
I have 6 other SL125 chars still on NG ready to go.

I would also violently shit my pants if DLC requires a new game cycle.

I cant find that DSP plays dark souls video. PLs help

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both the chaos blade and the iaito moveset are in the game, but they're unfinished and buggy

>>147124807
Won't be able to use a controller for a few days

>>147124885
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=DSP+plays+dark+souls

>>147124774
Yes, indeed. Summon is based on SL, not NG.

So if you're at somewhere 120, be wary. You might be dragged into a NG+7 boss fight.

>>147124917
Chaos Blade moveset is with the black blade

Iaito moveset was objectively garbage and one of the reasons I have rotten memories of upper blighttown

>>147124942
Those are only Ds2 results, and besides I think the video is no longer on youtube. Oh well

>A WHOOPING 1 AR FOR MORNE FROM 589 TO 590 WHEN 1 HANDED

FUCK YOU HACKAZAKI

>>147124987
im ready

SO is the greatsword of judgement actually any good now?

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>shattering the Bridge Demon's legs still makes me feel bad
:(

>>147124885
Only because the original video got taken down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJuzXWRPfjQ

>>147125057
What do you think

>>147125078
spoiler that shit

>>147125078
that faggot deserves it for losing to the fuccboi

>>147124987
do i get the extra souls for being in a higher ng level?

>>147125028
no, the black blade and this chaos blade moveset are different

>>147125054
Did you rike it?

>>147124824

>SL125
>NG

Fucking hell, that's just awful. My main Character is 129, and I just started NG++

I have no plans on leveling him further and my other two characters are probably going to max out at 130 as well

>>147125114
fuck you faggot i will fucking annihilate you. Do you know who the fuck you're talking to? I'm a fucking secret service agent for the NSA and have killed dozens of people including my neighbors and niggers. Talk to my not online in front of my face and see what happens. I will fucking destroy you

anybody know the percentage change on the scholar candlestick?
I have PC and thus no regulation change so we can compare numbers if need be

>>147124661
This.

>>147124690
I found this way funnier than I should have.

>die to a player
>try to move the camera away so it doesn't show them doing offensive gestures

Anyone?

>>147125107
>got taken down
What a shame

>>147125338
That's just kind of pathetic, to be honest.

>>147125338
I too am a leftist.

>>147125338
All the time :^)

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Would it be possible to use the Dragonslayer Sword Spear and have it be viable despite only having base requirements? I love the weapon and I dont think any other weapon has a moveset like it, but I don't really want to spec faith all that much.

>>147125551
xD

>>147125539
How ironic.

>>147125660
Hush, minion.

>>147125616
FAI and INT scalings on weapons are just placebo.

They don't do anything. Just worry about STR and DEX.

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>Black Serpent's tracking now

Now this is Fire Snake territory here. Based From

>>147125707
I am no minion, I am Lucifer

Don't you see?

>>147125616
swordspear is basically a quality type weapon but the WA doesn't work without the base faith
basically the same as the axe and spear as far as I know
>>147125776
>make dark build on release and spec out of it to 60int
>dark spells and pyros have only been getting better since then
>out of respecs in NG, don't want to do NG+ DLC
fug

>>147125895
Oh, so if I'm not planning on using the WA I don't even need to invest the base faith req? or will that make my attacks bouncy or weak or something?

>>147125230
I know you just asked for the scholar candlestick but here is mini list someone made on reddit I'm sure most people want to see. Kinda garbage they halved the candlestick without buffing the steady chant buff duration or spell base damage if this is correct.

This list is incomplete but I hope this will help bring consensus for later posts.

The dark sword damage decreased to be around the same as other straight swords.
Scholar's candle stick goes from 25% to 12.5%.
Demon fist weight 8 to 5.5.
Several skill weapon buffs have double duration to either 30 seconds or around 35 (consider human error), warcry and steady chant did not receive a duration buff.
Hornet ring damage is still 30% in pve, will need to someone to test it in pvp as I don't have a partner available.
Dagger and mailbreaker 140 critical, most other daggers 120, corvian great knife 115. The dagger that causes posion buildup still has 100 critical.
anri's straight sword took a massive hit in damage reduced, a 40, 40, 40 does not have a higher attack rating than most straight swords.
The weapons that received faith scaling had decreased physical scaling and added faith scaling, no spilt damage was added, faith scaling affects physical damage.

Is the Hollowslayer GS any good? It may just because it's a DS2 weapon, but it feels like it's gonna be a weapon that'll only be good if you know a bunch of tech for it.

>>147126284

It's great for hyperarmor R2 trades with Leo Ring. Otherwise it's a good Greatsword with decent AR, that's albeit unbuffable, and the best with the DaS2 greatsword moveset.

>>147125895
It's actually a pure dex weapon
The faith scaling is negligible, but not meeting the faith req. also gives a 50% stamina cost penalty and causes it to ricochet off shields.

>>147125338
I just yell "fuck you faggot" and move on

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>>147126570
>tracking
MUH DICK

>>147126570
Nerf when?

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I miss the days of my hypermode cursed weapon Dragon Bone Smasher build. Is there anything in DS3 that will allow me to relive those wonderous times, or has everything gone stale in my life?

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Recognize these r2s? You should, if you played DaS1.

>>147126782
collectors edition

>>147126782
Hypermode Leo Ring Blessed Weapon AGS

>>147126459
Thanks for the info on the faith req. Not sure if that's a good tradeoff. Shield I can handle, but I'll have to look at the stamina costs in order to decide if I want to skip out on the faith.

>>147126802
>DaS1
what that

>>147126880
Considering the WA is also a straight up damage buff, it's probably very worthwhile. 18fth is a pretty damn small investment. You can easily fit that onto a dex build and be no worse for wear.

>>147126849
Why Blessed Weapon and not something like Darkmoon Blade?

>>147127075
Because you can cast BW with 10fth + priestess ring, and otherwise be a pure quality build.

>>147127075
More Phys Dmg. Unless I fell for the >split damage meme and darkmoon blade is better. Even so that's 45 more points that could be used for dex str end or vig

>>147126802
I don't recognize that.

>>147127220
>>147127168
Blessed Weapon it is, then.

>>147126802
Was that always there or added with the latest patch?
Are we finally getting dlc assets?

>>147122446

He's wrong anyway because the Dankswurrd still fucking murders everything in PvE. A SS with a WA like that is ridiculous to begin with, nevermind the lolrange.

>>147127238
Silver Knight Straight Sword. It's so unfinished it doesn't even have a second r2.

>>147120775
How much better is the damage now? Is it viable?

>>147127552
Oh, right. Never really cared for it.

>>147126802
Skss

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>>147127420
I'm currently playing 1.08 offline. Assuming it was always there. I'm just looking around in movesets.

Have a twin greataxe moveset.
Sound effects, impact, stamina usage, this shit is finished unlike the other stuff I've found. (old mail breaker with charged r2s, buggy DaS1 flamberge r2s, etc)

No idea what the weapon art is.
The screen shaking is insane.

>>147127697
>paired greataxes
Oh goddamn, I am erect

>>147127697

Oh cool, I was actually hoping for a paired Greataxe weapon in the DLC so good we're probably getting that.

Now if only we had more (Unique) weapons with actually viable gimmicks like the Farron GS that have decent AR.

>>147126570
holy shit

>>147127697
All that unused content better not go to waste, there are some really great tracks in there.

>>147127697
>old mail breaker with charged r2s
Actually turns out it was gold tracer and silver tracer, but you've already seen that I bet.

>>147127965
>Farron
>Decent AR

ok

>>147128217

I meant unlike the Farron, sorry.

>>147127965
I can't imagine how they'd make it paired greataxes work.
The Twinaxes do 400 damage per L1, which is straight up more than most ultra weapon R1s.
If paired greataxes did enough damage over that to be worth existing, they'd be killing people in 1 combo.

However, looking at that right now, it looks to me like the left hand weapon isn't another greataxe. We might get another atypical pair of weapons, especially since the first hit of that L1 looks faster than the R1. Probably something like Mainhand greataxe and offhand curved sword or something. Though, considering the way the offhand is used in slashing motions instead of chopping, and the heft to it, it looks like it ought to be a curved greatsword or a greatsword.

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>>147127965
Given how it recovers, it might be a unique paired weapon. Maybe greataxe and axe.

If you want to try it out, the Special Moveset is 140. You need a paired weapon for it.

>>147128436
Does it have running/rolling attacks?

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>>147128436

Neat, I like how it looks like the other weapon is actually working with the mainhand. I like the idea of the Farron but the actual dagger doesn't do much aside from being the handle for spins and the stupid parry WA.

>>147128593
you'er lucky he was lagging

>>147127697
That's the stamina usage for twin greataxe? Why is it that twohanding one greataxe eats all your stamina in 3 swings

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>>147128593

>>147128593
Faithful cosplay

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>>147128593

I've tried out the carthus shotel on some Lothric knights, and I don't notice any bonus chip damage through shields. Have I been tricked?

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>>147128497
I forgot to check. No hitbox or stamina usage.
It looks like you use both weapons, so it isn't finished after all.

>>147128670
No, the moveset altering doesn't change the base stats of the weapon. That's sellsword twinblades.

>all dagger weapons: increased critical attack power

Except for poor Harpe. I guess since it already had no crit bonus to begin with?

>>147128879
that shit looks like drang hammers

>>147128879
Those are the running/rolling from the Winged Knight Twinaxes/Drang Hammers, so they're probably serving as a placeholder.

>>147128879
Oh alright I guess I misunderstood this part.
>Sound effects, impact, stamina usage, this shit is finished unlike the other stuff I've found.

I went back to the first game and used the Dragon Tooth with 40 END and FAP ring. I was able to swing the thing like 7 times and still roll so I kinda miss being able to swing a little more other than swing 3 times for all my stamina or just 2 times and then roll away.

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>>147128741
>Opponent is one hit away from death
>"I BETTER PARRY HIM"

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>>147129103
>stamina usage
By this I meant that it uses stamina at all. The really unfinished moves don't.

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mods are kill
post boobies

ded thred
ded game

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>>147130016
the boobies never die

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>be friendly mound maker in irithyll
>get summoned on other side of map and kill lizard for host
>walk through enemies to host and wave
>his phantom attacks me as the enemies following me approach
>what a rude bitch
>guard break him when he gets surrounded by mobs and kill him as we get invaded
why are phantoms so rude to MMs?

Has anyone watched ENB's new video? Is it him whining for an hour, or is decent?

>>147130223
Every time I get summoned as a MM, it is the host that tries to either gangbang me with his group of life partners, or 1v1 fight me fgt. It is becoming increasingly rare that a host will not outright attack me.

>host is losing a fight at pontiff
>he uses BC
>Haha silly you can't BC a dark spirit!
>gets sent back
What the actual FUCK

>>147131082
Collectors Edition :^)

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>>147125776
I want Yellowfinger Heysel to be the new goddess or rebirth and rebirth me

>wolnirs and lothrics sword are still complete trash

t-thanks for the buffs...

Is hornet ring dead yet?

>>147131358
You're gonna play a quality build and you're gonna like it

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Im playing SotFS for the first time after finishing Old Hunters and DS3 and, fuck, every animation feels so clunky and unnecessarily SLOW, any weapon or build to make it seem a little faster?

>>147131702
Str build with an estoc makes it a bit more tolerable

>>147131702
just play DaS1 you shitter

>Playing SOFTS
>Literally 75% of the phantoms I see are using the Greatsword

>>147131358

But anon, if you have 40/40/40 stats you can make Wolnir's do as much damage as a 40/40 Claymore with less range and a worse moveset! Isn't that a buff?

Dark Souls III newfag here. Is there a universal way to tell people "fuck off, Im not interested in PVP at the moment"?

Im playing with a friend of mine(we summon each other to fight bosses twice, so we are having a co-op campaign), but random people keep invading. We don't want to gangbang them, nor we want to lose ember on summoner.

>>147131879
I've already beat it and it didnt feel this slow or clunky

>>147131358
>533 AR at 40/40 str/fai
it's good now
direct upgrade to bastard sword

>>147131913
1. It's a big fucking sword, bitches love big fucking swords
2. it's huge and actually good in DaS2 pve, S STR scaling

How faith much scaling did Morne's hammer get and does it affect the total AR or just the weapon art
Please tell me it isn't E

>>147132229
C STR, D FAI scaling
STR scaling took a hit
50 STR + 30 FAI gives it 610 AR
all physical
weapon art is still based off total AR

Does anyone here want to share their stories of comfy or jolly co-operation?
>summon someone at Halfway Fortress in Ds3
>The Exiled
>"what an edge lord"
>proceeds to help me explore the entirety of Crucifixion Woods
>double team the Black Knight
>double team the other Exiled Knights
>double team the Crystal Sage
Playing these games with companions, even ones you don't talk to are amazing.

>>147121018
If they don't make figures of all the level up waifus, they have automatically failed as a company.

Though seriously, a Bonewheel Skeleton action figure would be rad as fuck.

>>147124003
There is none but Lucerne looks similar

So what the fuck happened to Abyss? Is it "The Deep" or whatever that is now? Why did they even change it?

Why are there no humanities anymore? Are they gone because there is no more abyss?

Why is frostbite even a thing? Did they want to bring in the concept because of the whole flame is dying thing but couldn't proceed with it?

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What's a fun build I'm so bored

>>147133075
Broken straight sword

>>147132840
You don't have to concern yourself with humanities because Unkindled are different from Undead somehow. The Abyss is still there, you visit it when you fight Wolnir and it's visibly on the Abyss Watchers armor, it's just not a place you can explore. The Deep is either a synonym for the Abyss or a new concept along with the Angels.

>>147132840

There's human dregs, which resemble humanity except all wilted and gross.

>>147133075
Which game?

>>147133275
Dks3

>>147127220
Also, I'm pretty sure DMB doesn't get a counter bonus, while the extra phys from blessed does. Split damage is bad when the separate ar's are too small and get heavily mitigated.

>>147133149
Damn, that sucks. I felt as if the main story of the series revolved around abyss. Such a shame that there is little to nothing in the last game about it.

Also, you can turn hollow but you are not undead in this game? How does that even work out?

Thanks for the reply by the way, I'm just curious and felt as if I missed out a lot of things about the lore.

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>Farming Carthus skellies for my cancer weapons

perhaps I deserve this

>>147133353
You have Quality, Pyromancer, or Sorcerer. That's pretty much it.

>>147133472
You choose for the Darksign to affect you if you follow the Lord of Hollows questline.

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>people still playing the latest instalment in the series

How the fuck are you still not tired of swallowing shit?

>>147133241
You are right, so that probably means abyss is related to the deep. Also, just checked the wiki and it says upon giving 30 human dregs to Archdeacon, he resurrects and dies immediately. Interesting, but I'm not sure what to make of it.

>>147133472
Also to add, Vordt and the Dancer of the Boreal Valley come from what appears to be portals to the Abyss. Food for thought.

>>147133727
I just bought the SotFS for PS4 because I was bored with the third game. However, it is disappointing to see only three summon signs during a whole playthrough. Such a shame really. Co-op in the third game felt so boring, was really hoping for DkS 2 to have some some activity.

>>147128648
You can't parry whips dingus.

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>>147133924
Why are you playing on console? play the real version (pc)

>>147131965
>I want to coop through the game but not be invaded

I don't think you quite grasp the purpose behind the mechanic.

Two people isn't even a gangbang anyways. No invader has the right to bitch about being stuck with a host and one phantom progressing through the area unless they seed.

>>147133727
People are still playing DaS2 and that's been out for years now. You tell me.

>>147133924
>>147134028
Real question is why is he playing the worst in the series

>>147134276
that's the real question right there...

>>147133648
Thought it could only affect Undeads no matter what but that is certainly what happens. Yoel does say something along the lines that the power is in every human or something, when he is "drawing out treue strength", right?

>>147133851
You are right. I just checked the intro again and before she comes out of the portal, slimes drop from it too. So, there is no doubt that deep is related to abyss in my mind now. Also, where you perform the marriage ceremony is in an area infested with the forces of the deep, so there's that.

>>147134393
Isn't an Unkindled someone who was originally an Undead? You start with the Darksign still on you after all. Not really point in making you hollow if the First Flame is resurrecting you to come fix it though.

>>147134028
I have a shit PC.

>>147134276
I like the variety and the levels.

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>Get summoned for Crystal Sage
>Get taken all the way to the abyss watchers

>>147134619
>get taken
>not just BCing out

>>147134619
>co-oping crystal sage
>get invaded because watchers are still alive
>can't walk through fog door like in ds2

>>147134529
>DaS2
>Variety aside from armor

>>147134787
Yes you can. You're even invincible while doing it, which is awful.

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>>147134146
Dark Souls 2 was at least better mechanics-wise. DaS3 is DaS2 with better visuals and art direction, but completely inferior to other games in the series (including Bloodborne).

>inb4 durr, das2 drone

>>147134876
DaS2 has the worst mechanics in the series, in addition to the worst animations, lore, etc.

>>147134521
I think it was explained that the Unkindled are Undead who failed to link the flame in a previous life by Memezaki. It was all triggered by Prince Lothric and Lorian refusing to link the Flame despite being appointed the Lords of Cinder for this cycle.

Will I get banned for dropping myself the TPGS, or +2 rings on a NG character?

>>147134619
>not enjoying jolly co-operation
Look at this nerd.

>>147134838
i swear it wouldn't let me
sage was dead in world fyi

>>147134876
>better mechanics-wise

In what regard? Soul memory? Despawning enemies? Infinite aescetic exploit farming? NG/NG+ multiplayer divides? No uncracked orbs? Ranked tryhard arenas? Adaptability? Farmable 99 stacking healing items? Estus doubleswigs negating backstabs or punishes? The slow pace, shit animations, greasy controls and even clunkier combat with an i-frame tax?

It was fucking garbage. The only thing it had going for it was powerstancing.

>>147135104
The only thing DaS2 did better was Warmth.

>>147134681
My duty is to be my hosts champion.

No amount of swamps and facefucking is going to stop me.

>>147135059
Guys?

>>147134835
But there is. At least I can fight against different builds in the arena.

>>147135276
assuming u got em legit, no

>>147135180
yeah
ds3's dorkmoons are much better

i really like how you cannot actively invade and it's literally the exact same as another covenant.

>>147135458
Using CE I mean.

>make knight character; full Lothric knight set, Lothric straightsword and shield
>start co-oping with it
>notice I'm taking piddly damage
>put on skull ring
>tank everything, hosts can go crazy with the damage
It's like I'm playing MMOs again.

>>147135510
never tried so i cant say
probably 50/50

Hey, people with CE, can someone check levels/stats on the Lothric knight enemies in various locations? I'm curious.

>>147135484
>DaS2's darkmoons are better than DaS1's

What?

>>147135695
>implying ds1's dorkmoons worked AT ALL

>>147135297

But it lacks the combat movement and reaction that any other of the souls series gives. DaS1 has just as much build variety with a much more in depth pvp mechanics wise. DaS2 is just r1 spam in either magic or SS/Curves sword with the option to add a buff to overpower it. At least DaS1 has ways to counter everything, even backstabs if you know your mechanics or "bugs" like toggle escape

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Why doesn't Rosaria's tongue come back when you return her soul like Anastasia's did?

>>147135737
>implying dickmoons weren't the easiest invaders to get in enormous numbers

Did you even play the game? The amount of fuckers who'd sit around in spookylondo drowning in indictments was unreal.

>>147134951
How's sweetspot mechanic on pretty much every weapon class bad? How's having to actually time rolls bad, thanks to smaller amount of iframes? How's having an ability to parry with almost every weapon class bad? How's the refined poise mechanic bad? How's having roll distance and stamina regen rate be linearly proportional to equip load bad? How's having access to complete weapon's moveset when holding in left hand bad? How's spell variety and the way attunement used to work bad? How's having consumables dish out respectable amount of damage bad (granted, same applies to DaS3, one of not many things they did right)? How's having at least some amount of iframes on backsteps bad? How's having a golf swing on ultra weapons that doesn't take half a year to charge up bad? How's having ability to gather all weapons without having to slog through the game thrice bad? How's having an ability to respec indefinitely without having to go to subsequent NG's bad? How's powerstancing bad (inb4 durr, it was useless)?

Wish adaptability didn't exist though, or that it capped at lower values.

>>147135104
>soul memory
I'm on the fence about this one, but all right, agreed.

>despawning enemies
Fixed by joining covenant of the champions.

>exploit farming
As opposed to everyone and their mother using CE/mules, as it happened with DaS1?

>NG/NG+ division
Non-existent since latest patches.

>No uncracked orbs
Agreed.

>tryhard arenas
Somewhat agreed, but then again, you now have tryhard duelfagging at pontiff's, which is no different.

>stacking consumables
If you are talking about shards, they were the easiest shit to punish. Don't recall how it was with divine blessings, but what I do remember is that I've seen maybe 2 or so people using them, and I used to invade a lot. Take it as you will.

>estus
Estus chugging animation was slow as shit in DaS2, and also wasn't instantaneous.

>>147135759
topkek

>>147135950

her tongue was restored yet she still does not speak. The tongues must flow

>>147136040
>replying to a shit poster

>a whopping 20 odd extra AR at 45 Faith on the Lothric Holy Sword

lmao

Memeazaki was molested as a child by a priest, Faith is never happening.

>>147136040
>>147135104
And for post-nerf backstabs: all you had to do was not initiate them by using R2's or R1's from the distance.

It's funny hearing you complain about Estus in DaS2, while in DaS3 it's fucking DeS-tier grass-munching.

>>147136040
>How's sweetspot mechanic on pretty much every weapon class bad?
Lag makes it spotty at best. Tying iframes directly to a stat, especially with no visuals to differentiate it was retarded. etc.

>>147136215
DaS2 is much closer to DeS in terms of healing because they can can carry hundreds of the items. In DaS3, you are at least limited to reasonable numbers of vials. Plus invaders are allowed to heal too, which helps balance shit out.

>>147136189
THERE
IT NOW HAS FAITH SCALING, JUST LIKE YOU WANTED
NOW STOP COMPLAINING

-hackzaki

Why is there so much activity on DS1 now? I got invaded and saw like 7 signs at the gargoyles. This is on xbox btw.

>>147136040
>Fixed by joining covenant of the champions.
Circumvented by using a repurposed useless covenant in a turbo remix after they realized it was a terrible idea

>As opposed to everyone and their mother using CE/mules, as it happened with DaS1?
Being required to use the exploit to farm anything in the first place was the awful mechanic

>Non-existent since latest patches.
"It's not a shit mechanic if they fix it a year later"

>Somewhat agreed, but then again, you now have tryhard duelfagging at pontiff's, which is no different.
Dropping the shitposting for a moment, the arenas in 2 were especially bad because they made the mistake of legitimizing them as an official format and rewarding people with concrete ranks and gay auras. People tryharding at pontiffs are tryharding as much as they feel they need to in order to boost their ego. People tryharding in those arenas were compelled to be as cancerous as possible to get the glowing red sparkles and dick enlargement.

>If you are talking about shards, they were the easiest shit to punish. Don't recall how it was with divine blessings, but what I do remember is that I've seen maybe 2 or so people using them, and I used to invade a lot. Take it as you will.
Lifegems weren't shit in PvP, they took a dump all over PvE by completely divorcing your lifeline from the bonfires and allowing you to keep going almost indefinitely without fear of using up your limited resources.

>Estus chugging animation was slow as shit in DaS2, and also wasn't instantaneous.
That was exactly the problem, you could chug twice before the punish came, and then the healing would be delayed enough that your HP would still be going up even during/after taking damage instead of hitting your max and being wasted, essentially negating the damage.

>>147136189
Patches being his self-insert didn't tell you that?

>>147136373
has xbone got ds1 working yet?

apparently it will share the same player base as 360

>>147136535
Yeah, and it runs a hell of a lot better with better graphics. And yes it has the same player base as the 360.

Is the bloodlust any good or is just another trash weapon thrown into the mix. Also, do I need any luck? It seems blood based.

>/dsg/ is still a hardcore miyazaki cult after DaS3
It can't be helped.

>you can aggro Black Knights as invader
Their range is unlimited, right?

What is the lore significance of the teleporting dogs? It seems like DaS2 levels of lazyness, but knowing Memeazaki had a hand in placing every pixel I'm sure it has some relevance to the overarching metaplot of the souls series.

Has Vaati addressed this yet?

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What's a good build to go gank hunting in?

Shields are for pussies

>>147136609
Trash. Luck isn't needed for anything you're not making Hollow, though Hollow infusion does improve bleed on a lot of things.

>>147136040
>How's sweetspot mechanic on pretty much every weapon class bad?
Requires precision in a game that constantly punished you for being anything but passive by adding lots of startup frames in rolling, attacking on any weapon and blocking, turning up infinite poise on enemies regardless of their equipment and size, tweaked tracking to a level so absurd that visual feedback on weapon swings were unreliable, having hitboxes break at random and adding whiff animations that locked you into lengthy recoveries.

>How's having to actually time rolls bad, thanks to smaller amount of iframes?
See above. Also agility. Tanimura must have some mental disability.

>How's the refined poise mechanic bad?
Shitter enabler, see immense outcry of DaS babies trying to trade hits mindlessly and failing to do so.

>How's having roll distance and stamina regen rate be linearly proportional to equip load bad?
Yet another reason to ditch heavy armor, yet another benefit to light armor and a great way to discourage players to try anything else. Short rolls with barely any iframes and a startup so long it's better to just walk away most of the time are only good to get you killed.

>How's having at least some amount of iframes on backsteps bad?
See DaS2's deplorable PvP.

>How's powerstancing bad (inb4 durr, it was useless)?
It was useless though.

Here, I'll even do you another one.

>How's consecutive rolling costing more stamina bad?
A big fat middle finger to anyone facing poking weapons without a shield.

>>147136378
>and then the healing would be delayed enough that your HP would still be going up even during/after taking damage

As opposed to DaS3, where a single chug from fully-upgraded flask not only heals you for pretty much all your health, but is essentially instantaneous? Punishing estus in DaS3 is WAY more difficult than it is in DaS2, where it didn't heal nearly as much and first start up animation was really, really slow, to the point where people wouldn't have enough time to initiate the second chug.
Hell, by simply keeping pressure people wouldn't have time even for the first chug, unlike, again, with das3, where all you need to do is backpedal a little and mash that chug button like crazy in enemy's face.

>>147136378
>Lifegems weren't shit in PvP, they took a dump all over PvE by completely divorcing your lifeline from the bonfires and allowing you to keep going almost indefinitely without fear of using up your limited resources.
They also stacked into hefty health buffers.

When is the patch?

>>147136943
I don't think anyone is trying to imply the the estus situation is perfect in DaS3. It's just better than healing in DaS2.

>>147126802
>SKSS

PLEASE, LET IT BE IN THE DLC

>>147137181
If the DLC doesn't include Quelaags Fury Sword I'll cry.

>>147136765
dex / fai
sharp sellsword twinblades
DMB
r1 l2 r2

>>147136765
Buffed Gotthard's L1 spam.

>>147136765
Ceastus in left hand
BKGA in right hand
Hornet ring

>>147136765
Quality with Lothric Knight Shield, Lothric Knight sword, and AGS

>DkS1
>lightning enchant stupidly powerful at the start
>miracles about average
>lightning damage nerfed into line

>DkS2
>lightning infuse not particularly great ever, despite Faith scaling
>miracles about average
>miracles get nerfed into shit

>DkS3
>U WAN POWA OF RAIJIN, GAIJIN?
>TOO BAD
>HERE SHIT EVERYTHING
>FUK U

T-Thanks. I just wanted to throw a lightning bolt and be worth a shit.

>>147137484
Miracles are the Souls equivalent of Brendan Fraser.

>>147137124
>heals a lot more
>is instantaneous
>this is somehow better than something that heals less and is very susceptible to punishment

Before you bring up the farmable consumables: they had even longer start up animation, and were even more susceptible to punishment.

This is in contrast with DaS3, which, I repeat, is really, really difficult to punish.

>>147137557
I can just double chug for a fast heal in DaS2. And still have countless gems for when the oppurtunity prevented itself. On top of which invaders couldn't heal, iirc, so you could just have phantoms cock block them as you healed, they could not retaliate by healing, and if they hid in enemies, you could just wait for them to time out.

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>yet another buff to pyromancers and nerf to sorcerers
i mean, as a pyromancer i'm glad but my mage build weren't even getting much activity and with this change i probably won't fucking play him at all

>>147137484
>miracles about average
wat
miracles broke the game
farm sunlight medals at gargs for a while and you're good for the entire game
get wotg and pvp is easy mode
gmb made casters your bitch, too

>miracles about average
wat
miracles completely and totally ass shattered the game
unpatched lightning spears were stronger than great resonant soul while costing you nothing, you could get 100s of basic lightning spears super easy in NG, 6 casts of super nuke sunlight spear
even after the nerfs they still actually did fucking damage unlike in das3
heavenly thunder remained until the end absolutely broken, blinding bolt gave you free heals, heals were the best they've ever been
buffs were the real deal

What level are people usually when trying Aldrich?

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>free aim Black Serpent
>lock when host rolls

>>147137703
Are you actually going to use black serpent though?

>>147137710
60-ish

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>>147137723
pyromancer builds in ds3 are the equivalent of arcane from bb

>>147137703
>nerf to sorcerers
They just nerfed candle. No one use it anyway except turtle autists and low lvl invaders. Magic damage is fine. You can free aim CSS and cancel casts. They need just fix tracking for some spells and add HA for GS and DE.

>>147137760
i needed a good pyromancy for my last slot when i'm not using warmth so sure, i will if it's actually as good as people are telling
>>147137889
you don't understand what you're talking about faggot, candlestick was the only thing that made sorcery pvp-viable, you will never hit anyone even remotely competent with CSS, candlestick added more damage to farron dart and flashsword which were bread and butter in pvp

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>Parrying dark sword faggots

>>147137889
The problem with sorcerers has been day one that the base effectiveness of sorcery is fucking trash and only gets good once you stack an absurd number of sorcery boosting items. Everyone would love it if they nerfed those items and then boosted basic sorcery to make things like the candlestick not be 100% mandatory and open up more build diversity, but instead they just nerfed them and left everything else the same.

>Dark Souls II
>Dragon Remnants PVPing at Iron Keep
>Be summoned
>Nigger nocks his arrow at me as I spawn, firing a few shots too soon when he thinks I can be damaged
>Immediately abandon all thoughts of fighting fairly and equip Washing Pole in right hand, Ice Rapier in left hand

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>>147137992
>you don't understand what you're talking about faggot
???
Candle used only be pure mages who don't do nothing except turtling with farron dart spam.

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DLC info when?

>>147138152
>nocks
Fucking bless you for using the proper spelling of that word. Up there with "piques" as the word I see fucked up the most.

>>147138230
you mean kiting
turtling isn't kiting

>>147138268
>peaking my interest
JUST

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Fuck it I'm using the claymore for my faith build.

>>147138152

that shit was so fucking common with dragon summons