/twg/ - Total War General

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>1 month for this

Oh well.

>>146959484

PATCH NOTES ARE UP

http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_1#Total_War:_WARHAMMER_.E2.80.93_Update_1

1st for still no DLC and no DLC in the next days.

2nd for "1 month to make Orcs even worse then they were before."

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does the patch mention shit about AOE spells not scaling with unit size properly?

did they fucking fix balthasar gelt and heinrich kemmler so they are more viable?

>>146959484
New thread?

Riight, when would that pontus shitposter gonna strike again with that google translation shit?

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xth for Marauder Horsemen

1 month for one unit, its pottery lads ;)

Only 6 more till Bretonnia, no wonder its a 10 year plan.

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>>146959579
>people literally complaining DLCs arent coming fast enough

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>lul send my regard when u meet Leoncour in the afterlife
>u have swords and bows we have rifles and tanks wtf were u thinkin
>this place would b pretty gud for a chapel to Sigmar
>go for broke, aim for his cock

>>146959676
Doing Sigmar's work lad.

How do you not suck at Stainless Steel?
My troops get absolutely cucked by Turkish archers and skirmishers.

>>146959668
fuck you

>>146959671
It's really quite amazing

>>146959671
People need something to complain about, no matter what.

Let's kill some chaos warriors.

>>146959671
modern gaming audience, anon

I was considering getting back into the original Rome after not having played it for years.

I have only ever played it vanilla.

Is there any "essential" or /twg/-approved" mods for the game?

>>146960028
Isn't that one realism mod pretty good? Europa Barborum or something like that.

>>146959796
Just like real life I guess. You have to get your own good light cav or skirmishers.

>>146960028
Radious

>>146959671
I don't care about DLC or whatever
There's no fucking content

>>146960028

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?214-Rome-Total-War-Hosted-Modifications

take your pick

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So why didn't anybody guess these were coming?

>>146960139
Radious modded Rome 1? No need, its units already radious-tier

>>146959670
I'm just happy to see a patch.

>>146959614
Doesn't seem to mention it in the spell section. They did modify direct damage spells and fiddle with agents. So one thing at a time I guess.

>>146959578
Some interesting changes.

Flat buffs to a lot of Chaos Warrior stuff. Yet Forsaken are more rebalanced with losses in fight stats but gains in speed and charge bonus. Marauder Horseman gained damage, reload, and accuracy which may make them feel like they actually do damage now. Faster warhounds may make a huge difference in early campaign to offset that.

Dwarves getting some cute buffs. Didn't use flame cannon much and now I may. Organ Gun having pen against trolls is nice. Slayers having a lower chance to get KD by splash attacks could be all they needed to be viable against big guys.

Empire doesn't see much changes. -speed to a few units (griffons/demigriffons)

Greenskins getting savage orc nerfs makes me happy for campaign.

VC seeing nerfs/buffs. Ethereal getting more physical resistance.

AI tweaks....
>Increased war co-ordination attack priority in campaign.
Sweet.

>Ai is now less inclined to start chasing the chaos player around the campaign map
FUCKING SWEET

>Increased the chance chaos recruits
That should make them showing up scarier.

Looking like a solid first patch to me.

When are Greenskins going to not be terrible?

>>146960321
Mate, they were speculated since the FLC release schedule was revealed.

I've had Atilla for a while but I never got around to playing it, should I bother with any of the DLC while they're all on sale? Should I get Rome 2 instead?

>>146960321
Well if the clue is in the picture, then we could probably guess at what we expect to see for the other FLC

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>>146960437
Age of Charlemagne

>>146960321
That's the Vampire Count Sigil...

>>146960321
there was plenty of speculation once the FreeLC schedule was put on the wiki and most folks expected that first unit to be the Blood Dragons

>doing all races on hard this time
>dwarves and chaos really fun
>empire still easy
>VC is possible but greenskins grew too strong and kept invading sylvania over and over
>greenskins now
>turn 25, surrounded by stacks of dwarves
>only have black krag
>all other greenskin factions nearby are already dead

How am I supposed to win this now? You need like 3 armies to kill one of the stunties.

Is Empire a good buy now that's on sale? Or is it still broken as hell?

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>>146960321
super secret Free LC release order

>>146960823
Broken. Buy it only if it is dirt cheap.

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>>146960452
How mad are the male feminists gonna be when the Legendary Lord is another male? Orc by the looks of it.

>>146961023
next VC LL is Isabella, as her voice is in the files

>>146960823
It can be fun, but for my taste the AI is really too stupid. Just put your units in a straight line and you will win. The AI will run towards you in a messy "formation" while they get shot. If they reach you they will fire one or two volleys (that aren't effective since the AI in incapable of forming a straight firing line) before the charge into melee combat.

>>146961023
The who of the what would be mad about what now?

>>146961023
new Orc LL is Wurzzag btw

>>146960348
>Autoresolver now deals less damage to high quality units (e.g. Slayers) in standard battle situations and deals more to low quality units.

FUCK YEAH!

>Subculture targeting missions are now always cancelled when the targeted subculture is destroyed.

This better fix grudges or there will be a grudging.

>Negative or neutral innate traits are now less likely to appear when recruiting a new Lord or Hero.

There's another mod I'll need to switch around.

>Reduced the rank requirement of the grudge to rank up a Master Engineer from 15 to 10.

Thaaank fuck.

>>146961114
There's a massive thread on the forums about there not being any female lords.

>>146961023
Not even sure this game is on the feminist's radar. I wouldn't mind a qt female LL desu.

>>146961023
Do orcs even have a gender? I thought they came from spores and didn't reproduce sexually

>>146961023
But Orcs reproduce asexually...

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>>146959578
>Goblins are now more ticklish.

I forgot that tickling was a fetish. That google search pulled up a bit more then I expected.

>>146959578
>buff to Marauder Horsemen and Hounds of all things

Thank you CA, for making defending against Norscan scum even more of a pain in the ass.

>>146960321
just fyi
FLC 1: Blood Knights
FLC 2/3: New Wizard+Lore for Empire
FLC 4: New VC LL (Isabella/Vlad/Wallach)
FLC 5/6: New Wizard+Lore for Empire
FLC 7: New Orc LL (Wurzzag)
FLC 8/9: New Race (Brets/Wood Elves) + new Lore
FLC 9: Master Engineer for Empire

>>146961274
>>146961368
Yeah but the point is they wasted this opportunity for diversity and added another testosterone fueled man.

>>146961234
I guess I should be thankful to never have gone there, then.

>>146961436
>Isabella/Vlad/Wallach
>Not Krell
>Race FreeLC
>Not Bretonnia
>Even thinking Wood Elves when the whole concept of Campaign Packs for the game was built for them.

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>>146959484
wow they look shit. just COPY THE FUCKING MODELS CA your design team are so fuckign incompetent. Also Blood Knights are the colour of blood, not just bright red and with battered rusting armour.

>>146962051

You need to lower your tone right now

>>146961773
It would be nicer if FreeLC slot isn't Bret. We already have half of them and a full new race would be more content to get for free.

>>146961427
Hounds buff is a speed buff which isn't very impactful when defending against them as they just get where they are going to get anyway. Where it's huge is letting Chaos Warrior campaigns counter Horseman more directly.

Marauder Horseman's offense was shit and ignorable. They are a terrible unit. AI armies need to run a lower count of them. Multiplayer and campaign chaos both needed them buffed.

>>146962051
>just COPY THE FUCKING MODELS CA

Uh...they did?

>>146962051
Better than Radious, so who gives a shit.

>>146962051
>bright red
Behold the effects of spectral lighting in a game engine. Please note the darker areas further from the camera.

>>146962247
Radious didn't even made the Blood Knights mod

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>>146959484

IS THAT FUCKING OFFICIAL BLOOD KNIGHT DLC I SEE?!??!

>>146962194
Brets are already playable in the MP. So having them as a paid DLC would be rather dumb since they will just be adding on to the roster and implementing all the campaign features. Doesn't make sense to have customers pay for something they have access to already rather than something completely new. On the same note you'd rather sell the completely new thing because more people will want to buy it.

>>146962051
They literally look the same you batshit fuckball. Maybe the digital models reflect light differently, but those models look like they are just lighter and darker shades of red.

>>146962423
Nah its FreeLC.

>>146962428
That's exactly what they did with Chaos Warriors though. They just got more units when you bought them.

>>146962194
>They are a terrible unit

I know. They are also terrible fucking annoying to deal with, and buffing them will just make it even stupider.

>>146960873
the missing lores might be beast and life

>>146959668
>Marauder Horsemen (all): +Damage, +Reload Speed, +Accuracy

>>146962481

Based. But I thought the Blood Knights hated Manfred Von Carstein? Why would they join his faction?

>>146962553
Without the Chaos dlc you cannot select them in any capacity. The roster is just larger than the AI would have access to in vanilla.

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>>146962710
Let the world burn

>>146962713
Youse asking the wrong guy hombre. Probably because its a video game.

>those greenskin nerfs

rev up those... wolf chariots?

>>146962408
He made blood knights.

>>146962870
nah, he just got permission to use em

>>146959671
々?

>>146962870
No he got permission to use someone else's mod in his mod. He didn't make that unit. That's why it actually fits in the lore.

>>146962967
my mistake.

Better than that shitty mod then.

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>>146962974

>>146962845
Nah that unit still isn't going to be worth anthing. I really don't understand the nerf to gobbo archers or spider riders but I usually ran orc arrer boyz or savage and never took anything short of a boar boy. I'm happy all trolls go a buff (GS, Chaos, Chaos Armored)

>>146962845
Trolls and chariots now viable, but at what cost.

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Gather the men

>>146963062
Campaign buff to not-orcs I feel. Orc AI tend to get huge gobbo stacks and the sheer quantity of fire can get more impactful then you'd expect. They also tend use the spider riders a lot and that's the main gobbo archer unit with armor piercing damage.

>>146962713

Yes, they hate him - but he's the Carstein heir, and they're the Carstein family.
They'll have no problems under Vlad/Isabella, IMHO.

Is the Black Coach not absolute garbage anymore?

I dont't know what keeps me more from enjoying M2: The fact that I'm new to the game or the horrible camera controls

>Autoresolver now deals less damage to high quality units (e.g. Slayers) in standard battle situations and deals more to low quality units

>>146963261
you switched them to the wasd-scheme, right?

>>146963319
Slayers also only take 1 turn to recruit and don't get knocked down as much. They might be worth using, now.

>>146959796
What faction?

>>146963261
Every time I go back to old games I gotta change controls to be more like modern total war.

How are they not nerfing demigryph knights and Beaquis into the ground?

>>146963134
WHERE ARE MY MEN?

>>146963397
Demi got buffed

>>146963397
>>146963548
Demigryph Knights: (all) +Cost, +Damage, -AP Damage, -Speed
que?

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>No beastmen
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

>>146963397
They are, but they buffed their counters too.

Chosen now are have higher armor, and halberd variant is greater vs large.

All other cav has been buffed.

Blood knights are anti-large

Orcs still fucked though.

>>146963397
Demis got a damage buff but an AP damage nerf and speed nerf. Also they will cost more.

>>146963387
Tried my luck as the Byzantines in the early SS campaign.

>>146960071
Yeah EB is real great

>>146963062

i'm glad arrer boyz are more viable, they're just a fun unit, but i don't get the troll buffs or gobbo nerfs

i've always seen greenskins as the cover all bases army. like empire, they have every type of unit (except flying), just weaker versions than everyone else has. their only strong point is their infantry and monstros

this update just weakens their support and buffs their melee even further

>1 month for a balance patch and 1 unit

Oh biy bretonnia never

>>146962437
the models clearly express the intention that plate armour with its standard steel colour has been covered in blood which has dried and stained it a reddish gore colour in the deeper recesses. The CA ones have gold trim and the red just looks painted on or worse like their armour is tonka toy plastic.

>YFW you fell for the CA jew

6 months of the 4 same races cucked by ca yet again

>>146963787
Trolls kind of needed it. Compared to other monsterous infantry they were quite underwhelming. Especially with the Crypt Horror Picture Show.

>>146963896
If the armour was supposed to be covered in dried blood, they'd be brown.

Thinking about doing a Western Rome play through on Attila, are the units still all fucked up with later units being worse than early units?

>>146963920
It's ok anon you now have all the time in the world to mod in anime textures.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT POISON ARCHERS ARE RIDICULOUS. SOMEONE DEFEND THIS RIDICULOUS BULLSHIT.

which warhammer mod for medieival 2 should i get ?

>>146964212
no, WRE units received buffs and lower upkeep, they are pretty good now

Are total war patches save game compatible? Or do I gotta start a new campaign?

>>146964265
Attila?

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I JUST WANT MY LOW-TIER TECHNOLOGY BARBARIANS TO SACK CITIES AND AMBUSH MIDDENLANDERS FUCKING SHITS

>>146964297

two choices:
Rage of the Dark Gods for Beastmen/Chaos rapetrain
Beginning of the End Times for more comfy & complete campaign.

>>146964297
Beginning of the end times submod(for call of warhammer) for sandbox.

Call of Warhammer for a more railroaded campaign or whatever.

>>146964417
Yes. Attacking an Antean settlement is a fucking pain in the ass. Those archers are beyond OP.

>>146964356
Alright thanks

>>146964297
BotET

It's not all together with faction consistency or features, but it's got great potential and there's a massive amount of effort going into making it complete.

>>146964402
Compatible.

>>146964441
>>146964453
>>146964543
>>146964543
how big is the difference between the two ?
and what does railroaded mean exactly ?

>>146964593
thanks bro

>>146963717
Your generals can solo armies.

>>146964685
Beginning of the end times is sandbox focused so you can pretty much do whatever you want.

The other one throws stacks and events at you all day.

>>146964746
I'm having trouble with the turkish skirmishers. I lose a lot of my men before I get into melee.
Gotta git gud

>>146964685

RotDG is set in Old World only & chucks 2 full stacks of Beastmen/Orcs/Goblins at you every couple of turns & then 21 full stack of Chaos Undivided for the encore.

BotET is your basic, standard vanilla Warhammer campaign with standard vanilla rules.

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>>146964265
no one will defend it, CA moved on from Attila so Slavs never received the nerfs that they should

>>146965041
>>146964265

Slavs are the master race so it's not really surprising that they BTFO you inferiors

>>146960873
The free race is Bretonnia, not wood elves.

>>146960873
There aren't even 3 empire heroes left for them to release though. Only one left is engineer. Unless they're counting the wizards for the new magic schools which would be lame.

>>146965389
The first one obviously looks empire, but are we sure about the second and third? Could the second pass for VC and the third perhaps for Brettonia who certainly must be the FLC faction?

>>146965221

So all they do is port them to the campaign? Seems a bit lame. I hope they add some extra units at least.

>>146965590
Bretonnia need a scouty/sneaky type hero, don't they?

>>146965704
i have no idea but that sounds good to me

>>146965647
Bretonnia doesn't have a big roster to begin with, but questing knights and knights errant at the very least will be there. CA should probably make up some units for them so that their roster doesn't feel as anemic as it does in the tabletop.

So when does todays patch go live?

>>146965890
next month

>>146965890
tomorrow 2pm BST

>>146965890
you mean tomorrow's patch?

2pm bst, 9am est, 6am pst

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>patch is so late i barely remember where i left my campaign
>already into some other games

Gee, this /moddercoulddoinonesitting/ dlc will surely entice me back after weeks of nothing.

>>146965802
Questing knights and knights errant seem like a pointless unit from a gameplay perspective, they dont serve any purpose there is no need for 5 different shock cav.

They can add pilgrim knights, green knight hero, then just make shit up i guess.

>>146966128
Coming soon: Dismounted Bretonnian Knights
oh the heresy

>>146966120
This is the reason they dont let modders import models inst it.

We would have had fully functional new factions by now.

>>146966128
Could turn one of those into a get stuck in there melee cav but you would probably still just cycle charge them just to do impact damage and avoid anit large damage.

Probably going to have to make some shit up. I hope its not Dismounted X trash

>>146966212
Radious plz go.

But seriously what can they do?

Knights errant
Mounted yeoman
Questing knights
Knights of the realm
Grail knights

Whats the point in have 5 tiers of cav, we already have low tier yeoman, mid tier realm knights, and high tier grail knights.

>>146966221
Pretty much.
Xcom 2 devs got humiliated by the modding community content compared to the shitty dlc they've produced thus far.

Sega would never allow it.

Any /twg/er have a link to a youtube vid with just the music from this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfdJkE5RoJM

>>146966465
>humiliated
not sure if I'd use that word. I'm very gratefull that Xcom 2 let's modders do so much

>>146964265
Mod it. There got to be some mod of it somewhere

>>146966375
Bretonnian foresters for some vanguard deployment skirmishers
Grail Pilgrims (and a version with grail reliquae)
Err
shit

Blame GW for not updating their army book for over a decade and then scrapping the setting

What are the best ways to regain leadership? Like if a unit routes and returns how should you handle that unit so it gets to a state where it's useable without just routing again?

Also just won a VC campaign game with a random lvl 1 vampire lord + a few zombies and a basic VC settlement garrison vs templehoof (hoff?) stack on turn 6. He's got less then 100 health left. Enemy skeletons didn't disintegrate when I capped their necromancer leader. Came down to crumble.

>>146966704
Im grateful too, I just find it strange they allowed such poor dlc to go out knowing the modders were adding really neat stuff.

I suppose the pre-announced deadlines caught them out.

>>146966937
oh yeah I haven't tried the hunter DLC. so it's shit then?

>>146966375
Couldn't they add some men-at-arms with swords?

As it stands, Brettonnia has two tiers of their siege military building, but only one of them gives trebuches, so maybe some more siege units, though I'm not sure what that would be. Catapults?

They also have the same issue with their infantry barracks. One of the tiers doesn't give anything, so we can definitely expect some more infantry.

>>146964265
Get your ranged units to shoot back. Slav archers are very poor armored, even slingers can fuck them up.

>>146966916
I believe letting them become well rested helps. also ofcourse keep them near your general or morale buffing units.

Keep them away from other routing units

>>146959578
kek why are they nerfing Goblin archers? They are useless anyway

>>146960028
RTR for not going full EB

Are Brettonian Questing Knights get humbler or more glory seeking than Knights of The Realm?

>>146966937
Where's the 40k mod?

>>146967019
Perhaps but what would be the point, tier 1 infantry with swords.

Their infantry serves a single purpose and that is to be an anvil for your horses.

They could perhaps add higher armored infantry, or grail pilgrims with reliquae to give a passive leadership buff and defense bonus to units so lines can hold better.

>>146960346
Darth did

>>146967001
Thats what ive read at release, heard it was unbalanced as fuck with the OP monsters.

Maybe they've fixed it by now.

Im only coming back when they add shen's last mechs.

>>146966937
We going to complain about pre-announcing deadlines now?

>>146966854
I half expect Bret to gain access to some elves for high tier melee. Idk how in lore it is but would it be more acceptable then dismounted knights?

They could expand the Warrior Priest into some monk styled units with flails.

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>>146966128
>>146966375

>pilgrims
high leadership/unbreakable, frenziable infantry; anti-infantry equivalent of slayers with worse stats
>Relique pilgrims
buff-dispenser à la luminark/black coach, only much slower (like cross or carroccio in Med2)
>questing knights
might fulfill a role as high-armor melee rather than shock-cav (like Median cav/Azat knights for eastern factions in Rome II), maybe with an anti large bonus. there's also the re-roll fear/terror thing on the tabletop, so immunity to psych
>peasant bowmen
will hopefully get stakes like the tabletop

>>146964845
You have your own roster of infantry decent at skirmishing and meele fighting.
You can recruit insanely OP units in Constantinople, just make treaties with other europeans and focus on the east man, if you cant deal with the turks just sit out their ammo in loose formation, I dont even know how you can have trouble, turks have an awful roster, trash their meele units and their Skirmishers will easily lose to yours due to the morale penalty of the army routing.
Early Byzantines are the easiest faction in the entire game, more than England even.
Also, your Skoutatoi Spearmen are really fucking OP, strong unit, big in numbers, Get Drill Squares asap in all of your castles.

>>146967319
More like crashmod

>>146967204
They Ditch the Lance and pull out a 2-handed sword that they use from horseback because theyre fed up with the world.

>>146966937
Care t elaborate what some of this neat stuff would be? If it's something that adds the features of long war without retarded game design behind it I oculd very well get the game

>>146967450
Elves straight up fighting for Bretonnia doesn't really make any sense when the vast majority of the population don't know the link between The Lady and elves in the first place. Dismounted knights doesn't make sense either, unless it's squires or something, but even the lowest tier nobles would have a mount. The only other idea I have is something like a recruitable Griffon or hippogryph knight to make up for Bretonnia's lack of strong single units that every other faction has, but those kinds of mounts are supposed to be lords and heroes only.

Is anything harder than trying to win on the hardest difficulty in Rome 1 as Carthage?

All three roman armies bear down on you and even if you fight them back you have to deal with SPQR. And of course Rome 1's AI is so retarded that everyone fucking hits you. Fucking Britannia even got in the action on my last play through

>>146967975
We just need the Dismount button back

It's silly how it doesn't exist any more

>>146967975
Well clearly something new needs to happen given the tabletop state. I'm somewhat thinking in terms of "end times are upon us, call upon our elven allies" when I suggest elves.

Hmm they could introduce adventurers. Stuff that's out of WFRP.

Oh how about long spears? Like the long yari ashigaru from shogun 2?

Of course maybe there's another option. Maybe CA just doesn't make Brettonia a full faction.

>>146967551
>I dont even know how you can have trouble
I'm garbage
Thanks for the tips man

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>New to total war
>Playing rome 2
>Playing as rome
>Carthage attacks some northern italian town
>Autoresults show my loss about 90%
>Give it a go anyways
>Hold enemies in tight corridors and then arrow them
>Everything going great
>2 fightings going on in 2 different street corridors
>In one corridor there are like 70 heavy spears of mine and 40 of is and he's spears are wavering
>If they loose I can use my spears to backstab the other forces of enemies and maybe win, if not massively cause causalties for them
>game crashes

>>146959578


oh boy it's fucking nothing.

reddit is sucking dev cock right now over this bland ass patch

What mods are better than the patch. People on the TWC forums are saying that their are mods that do this but I can't find any. Plz. Help

>>146967906
Better to ask in xcom general. I havent kept up.

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Normally I'd be shitting myself but with Naval support AI artillery is practically useless.

>Call in Naval Support
>Destroy 3/4 of their artillery and 200 men
Who thought this was fair?

Guys should I go for the grand masters collection? Is all the DLC worth it?

The only thing I can see that is not in the normal master collection that seems significant is the Rise of the Samurai content. Any other DLC content in the grand masters worth it?

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>mfw when all the FreeLC, paid DLC, and expansions come out and all the great mods are out as well for TWarhammer

Good lord It's going to be completely glorious

How is the last roman???

I was planning to play as Roman expedition, is ti better to stay horde or go against the ERE?

>>146969578
I just hope my great-grandchildren live long enough to see that day come.

>>146969578
>hey guys this game I bought will be so good in another 2years. I can't wait! :^)

>>146969741

It's already good, why are you shitposting?

>>146969520
Fuck no just by the normal bundle and buy the DLC that you really want to, and I would not suggest ROTS

>>146967904
I'm not asking about their weapon. I'm asking about their manners

>>146969715
>How is the last roman???
cucked desu

>>146969846
I hear this cuck meme applied all the time, what is it to do with?

And is the game no good? the idea of retaking the roman empire sounds cool as fuck.

>>146969719
Anon, don't encourage your kids to fuck as early when they are little toddlers

Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that Warhammer is a terrible game?

>>146969974
No

>>146969940
>I hear this cuck meme applied all the time, what is it to do with?
With the 'right' decisions you'll get the 'cuckold' trait in The Last Roman.
If you're into cuckolding and NTR then The Last Roman is perfect for you!

>>146969974
Not terrible but pretty shallow.

>>146969940
Started when Bernie Sanders got cockblocked on stage by the two black chicks. Then when they started making all the parody porn of the candidates it turns out Bernie Sanders is going to be a cuckold on all of them. Then liberalism started embracing the term and owning it unironically.

So yeah it's here to stay

>>146969940
Personally I really like the DLC, but it really comes down to whether or not you like the setting, and as for the cuck stuff, you can get the trait 'cuckold' in it.

>>146969940
The Last Roman is literally LITERALLY a cuck.

Haven't played it but the thread seemed to enjoy it at the time. If you like the setting then yeah go for it or wait for someone who's actually played it to go into more detail

They should have released the brets at least I mean wtf

>>146969974
Absolutely not, it's getting better and better!
We have Blood Knights now, only Blood&Gore missing and a few factions more and it's the perfect TW

Did I get that right? The 'freelc' is one unit for one faction? Impressive.

>>146968830
Nice meme.
Kill yourself.

>>146970208
BUT THEY'RE NOT FINISHED YET, GONNA TAKE ANOTHER 16 MONTHS AT LEAST!

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>>146969940
>I hear this cuck meme applied all the time, what is it to do with?
look at this pic, the actual campaign is very fun as long as you play as a loyalist roman expedition, playing as anything else is easy and boring as fuck

>>146969974
>Now that the dust has settled,
back to /v/ with this meme

>>146969974
Pros
Best launch for a TW title
Fun and varied combat/units
Fun campaign
Each faction plays differently

Cons
>Not enough content though yet, needs more factions. I have completed it 3 times and i am bored.
>Its also to easy, it took me 4-5 attempts to beat Attila and beat this first time in 15 hours.

That shit for Warhammer is just fucking nothing, feels like Stellaris where you have to put the game aside for a good 6 months before you touch it again.

It looks like I have to try and get into Attila in the meantime and I don't know if I can pull it off.

>tfw played Valiant Hearts a few days ago

I can't handle feels

>>146967551
When do I get Cataphracts or Scholae or whatever though? I cant find their building anywhere in the building roster

>>146970367
>not allowed to assassinate Antonina

The suffering. Becoming a traitor to Rome is worth it if only for disabling her dumbass storyline.

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إذا كنت ترجمة هذا ، فصيل
المفضلة لديك هو بونتوس

>>146966221
>We would have had fully functional new factions by now.
I mean they would need to allow for more than just import modules if we wanted whole new factions

>>146969402
FotS isn't fair. It's all about how much bullshit the AI and you can throw at each other.

>>146970756
Saladin doesn't look like any Arab I've ever seen.

>>146970149

No. Cuck started as a general insult that gained steam on /v/ and /tv/. /pol/ only adopted it later because /pol/ is full of retards who can't make their own memes.

Cuck gained traction because autist was being overused and people needed another original insult.

>>146970420
I mean if you want warhammer you could always try Call of Warhammer Begging of the end times.

Actually, how do you survive as the Byzantines in the late SS campaign?
>no money
>no troops
>constantinople full of some many troops that i actually would rather kill myself than siege that shit

>>146970420
>>146971419
Call of Warhammer Beginning of the End times*

>>146970756
An actual Arabic speaker wrote this, eh?

>>146971083
thats because he was kurdish.

>>146972234
Oh, makes sense.

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>>146970756

You can't write what you want it to be and hope it translates well into Arabic, you mong.

>>146971708
You have to take Constantinople at the start, git gud

>>146972309
wonder how ISIS get their head around the greatest islamic general of all time being kurdish.

>>146972527
They don't

>>146971708
You cheese your way through Constantinople. Otherwise your fucked because lel no income.

>>146972487
>>146972752
how do i cheese constantinople

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>>146970756

>tfw Saladin was more beautiful than that creature that Eva Green was playing

>>146972789
by gitting gud

I hope that DX12 will actually be an improvement, but I'm not convinced given how buggy and unoptimized it is in other games

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>>146972789
When I played the late Byzantine campaign I just besieged Constantinople on the first turn, of course they sallied forth but I managed to beat them thanks to all those elite unit you start with (and also because sally forth battle are rather easy in Medieval 2).

Once you get back Constantinople you don't have to reconquer the Balkans immediately, as the Sicilians are going to invade them back with a ridiculous ammount of Norman knights anyways.

This was a pretty fun campaign for me atleast with several critical moment like 2 consecutive jhiads on Constantinople, the endless Fatimid stacks and of course, the fucking Mongols.

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I came

>>146964438
Doesnt work, not enough strong humans to get fucked by all the factions around them

>>146972807
I think she's kinda hot in a weird way.
Also those boobs are fantastic

>>146970756
what is Jerusalem worth /twg/?

>>146964438
>Not also adding in because you want to defecate everywhere aswell
why?

>>146973383
Siege it on turn one with just my ruler's army?
I'll try. Thanks my man

>>146960321
People were speculating about DLC Blood Knights since the VC roster was announced, even before the game launched.

>>146974198
Nothing

>>146963134
What movie?

>>146974198
4000 Saxon men

I've been eyeing Atilla since its summer sale time but I'm still iffy on whether its worth buying or not.

Having played out Rome II and having a several dozen hours in TW:W is it worth it for me to go back and get Atilla?

I'm not averse to staying with Rome II to get my fill of the time period but I wanted to see if theres any little things they added that made it markedly better apart from the siege escalation thing and bringing back the families and stuff.

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>Put out patch notes
>no patch
DED GAME

>>146974957
tommorow

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Post and share bears.

>>146973383
>>146974228
Holy shit how do I do this?
It's kind of close every time, but I cant win this battle holy shit

>>146974957
What is it with blacks and putting themselves everywhere?

>>146973431
I saw

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If you like playing medieval-themed video games, you might not be just some harmless nerd — you might be a nerd who is also kind of a white supremacist. At least that’s the opinion of Victoria Cooper, a Ph.D. candidate at the University of Leeds in England, who presented a paper titled “Playing Politics: Exploring Nationalism and Conservatism in Fantasy Video Games” at the International Medieval Congress earlier this month. “The Middle Ages is a space where white supremacy is legitimized,” Cooper said, according to an article on Medievalists.net. “The maintenance of white privilege. The gamer community use ‘historical facts’ to legitimize this kind of literacy.” According to the article, Cooper also added that “medievally-themed video games are a space where whiteness can be anchored, in a ‘happy history’ where a world is free of multiculturalism and white guilt.’”

>>146976029
WE

>>146974957
>Black vikings and Russians. Now those books I wanna read. those arguiements must be amuzing

>>146976337
KANGZ

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>>146975764
We need more warhammer ones desu.

I could have made a Tomb Kings one when the discussion was hot, but I missed my chance

>>146976029
What is it with whites and putting themselves everywhere?
Colonialism, ever heard of it?

>>146969578
>great mods
I'm sorry but I think you should know something

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>>146976502
Not even related.

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>>146976186
>tfw I don't give a shit

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>>146975764
Would love to find an elf version of this

>>146976186
>tfw im not even white.
>tfw still a white supremacist

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>>146976186
> African Total War game never

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>>146976186

>mfw

>>146976426
>but I missed my chance
It's never too l8 m8

>>146971207

it started on /pol/ vs owen jones years ago

>>146976820
Tomb Kangz are still pretty hot
and not announced

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>>146975764

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Madman

>>146977094
ABORT

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>>146975764
Everyone's favorite

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>>146976502
>whites take over
>they build a prosperous and orderly country

>blacks take over
>they ruin everything

>>146977094
>eating ice cream instead of working on Bretonnia reeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
DELETE THIS!

>>146977361
Isn't dogbert on the arena team?

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>>146977361
>Dogbert
>Working on the game.

He's CA's resident meme man beside Craig m8, he's too busy for that pointless shit.

Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

>>146977356
>Implying nigger towns didnt always look like the lower picture
>implying anyone cared if niggers murdered each other

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>>146975764
does anyone have that original american one?

>>146977356
>>146976186
>>146976385
>>146976337
>>146975689
>>146975441
>>146974957
please go to pol, no one cares about you and niggers, this is a board to discuss total war games, not your obsession with blacks

>>146977651
FAT VAMP TATS

>>146976186
Someone post that black and white picture of the guy saying that he can't understand how whites should be ashamed for actually using their brain.

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>>146977651
NO.

I want VLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

>>146977618
>resident meme man
Sounds like a nice job, how do I get a position like that

>>146977778
Ask Sonic's twitter account

>>146977525
>>146977618
I was just joking guys. Do you really think I'd mind if they ate ice cream?

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>>146977708

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>>146975764

D A W I
A
W
I

>>146977708
>isn't instead of aint
shame

>>146977951
he needs to say wazzock instead of mushroom

>>146977951
This thing is worded pretty awkwardly.

I would say 'is not Da Best'

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>>146975764

3 KINGDOMS TOTAL WAR WHEN :D

I love this meme.

>>146977951
We need an Archeon the Everchosen version of this.

>>146977771
Id like Vlad as well but we have enough male heros we need to be inclusive.

That and vampire chan.

>>146978681
>Id like Vlad as well but we have enough male heros we need to be inclusive.

Back to dumblr with you m8.

In honor of the patch, ima let /twg/ and other Understanders name my newly acquired Tegu.

Should I just destroy vamp settlements instead of trying to occupy them?
It seems like you get jack shit income out of them, and the public order is horrible as so the only thing you get out of them is rebellions and having your borders closer to angry orcs.

>>146979530
>he doesnt take over Sylvania to build temples of Sigmar in every vampire city
Found the heretic

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>>146975764
>>146976426

>>146979530
Just swarm sylvania with captains and corruption reducing agents. Also build temples.

>>146979517
Napoopan

>>146959484
Hey guys should I get the grand masters collection? It's $20 more and I'm not sure if the DLC is worth it

So about 20 turns into the TLR took out most of the Vandal empire, and i chose to be loyal.

Problem is all the ERE towns are rebelling, am i better of just starting again and being a separatist?

>>146979517
Tengrikhan

>>146969157
Except it fixes most of the obvious problems.

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>>146977951
>those Spurdo pauldrons

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>>146966375
I wouldn't mind some slightly lorebreaking new units
>Bretonian rangers
Knights who refused renounced their titles and picked up a bow to defend the common folk. They still worship the Lady, but in their own way. Ordinary knights despise them, but they help against beastmen so it's ok i guess. Best human archers, stealth and forward deployment, good in melee.
>Bretonian reavers
Disgraced Knights of the Realm who lost/forced to give up their lands because they brought some kind of dishonor on the Realm and Lady. Along with lands they were forced to give up the symbols of their knighthood - horse, lance and a sword. Reliable shock infantry with two handed axes/maces/flails. Kinda like slayers/possesed, but good against armored. Can't hold the line well and melt pretty fast in prolonged engagemnet.
>Fayguard
Young magicaly gifted boys who were taken by Fay Enchantress as kids. Instead of refining their magical abilities, Lady's blessing allows their innate magical potential to turn into a protective barrier. They wear heavy plate, with hoods concealing their faces. Elite heavy haleberd/two-handed sword infantry with ward save and magical resistance. Limited pool (1 or 2 units for campaign).

I can come up with few more. I don't think those units are THAT lore-breaking, and would help to spice up shallow Bretonian roster without breaking faction theme that much.

>>146981342
Please no.

>>146981342
Radious please go and stay go

>>146981342
>Young magicaly gifted boys who were taken by Fay Enchantress as kids

o-oh.

>>146981342
Dismounted Knights would still be in line with the tabletop IIRC.

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>>146981342
Stop right there RADIOUSSS

>>146981342
Jesus Christ this ChrisChan tier writing.

>>146975880
>>146973383
pls respond am desperate
will suck dick for battle advice

>>146981342
>I don't think those units are THAT lore-breaking
You've completely lost it, even Radious© Lore™ is more true to WH lore than that

>>146982024
Have you tried to hammer the anvil?

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>>146978494
an early attempt

So with the patch if you setup an ambush can you no longer decline to follow through on it so you have to fight if someone gets caught?

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>>146982205
Needs bigger horns!

>>146982205
bretty gud :DDD

>The runes don't just relate to Blood Knights...

BLOOD AND GORE WITH BEASTMEN FACTION. CONFIRMED.

;)

>>146982396
Sometimes you can catch an ambusher before he can ambush you, leading to a non ambush fight.
Now you cant for fuck all reasons.

>>146978681
>getting Vladimir without Isabella

Why tho

>>146982702
They already said that the blood knights are not related to the message.

Its still a surprise, i hope they release DLC on top of this update as a surprise.

>>146970756
In Lebanon during screenings, when that scene where he respectfully picked up the Catholic Cross and placed it gently on the altar and bowed his head before leaving was met with huge applause and standing ovations.

>>14696637
>War hounds
>Robin Hood esque skirmishers (they're in WHRP)
>Disgraced knights on foot
>Bolt Thrower of some kind
>Hippogryph Knights

These are the only non-lore-breaking units they could add to the bretonnian roster.

>>146980435
Plz respond

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>>146959676
Sigmar bless :DD

>tfw paying off the huns and giving the leader my drunkard sister as a wife
>all the other germanic factions are mad at me about it

You fucks are just jealous you didn't think of it first.

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>>146978494
my take

>>146981478
>146981478
>>146981581
>>146981717
>>146981973
Why not? GW abandoned Bretonia eons ago, and now we have to stuck with 2 types of pesants and 2.5 types of mounted knights as a unit roster?

>>146984161
nice!

>>146984497
Yes, because Bretonnia is shit.

>>146984497
And that is just the way we like it.

>>146970502
In Constantinople, you need to build the special buildings for it, many units and their buildings are event-based tho, I think Cataphracts need partial plate.

>>146978251


hopefully never. The entire 3 kingdoms drama is incredibly overrated.

chaos ambient music is surprisingly nice

>>146980435
being a separatist is boring as fuck

>>146984497
Their roster is small and limited but giving them any kind of infantry that's better than men at arms is missing the point of Bretonnia. If any units are added they should try to follow the theme of medium infantry at best, mobile high value units and pretty decent ranged.
Of course, if no other units are added I'm sure Radious will add 7 different kinds of heavy infantry to Bretonnia and make them the same as every other faction, as usual.

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>>146984161
fixd

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>>146985354
Excellent work

>>146985354
perfect!

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>>146985354

>>146985160
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>>146985354

>>146985773
No other faction has this limit.

And as the other guy said, they are not about heavy infantry.

I think they should have abilities to buff their current infantry, such as grail pilgrims and a grail reliquae unit.

The grail pilgrims are unbreakable and have ward save, meaning they are tanky as fuck.

Grail reliquae should work as an area of effect buff, similar to a general with a few spells that can be used to increase melee attack or defense of a unit. The passive aura should give a bonus to leadership to all units in its area, this will give units more staying power.

That solves all their problems with infantry, then you just hammer with diverse cav.

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>>146972807
You gay son?