/ddg/ - Dragon's Dogma General

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>tfw memegames post was probably a decent indicator of how active the thread is
>tfw we were scraping for 24 pawns

slut pawns are cancer of the game

>>146868865
I'm deliberately not participating because it sounds gay :^)

>>146869756
While I don't necessarily agree with this, I also imagine this is one of the reasons there are not 24 people posting their pawn.

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Alright /ddg/ meet the cast.
Do you guys want me to do this right now, or do you want me to wait, until it gets more active?

>>146871574
I think it would be more fun later on.
Thread is particularly slow at the moment, even by /ddg/ standards.
Then again, I don't know your schedule, I am assuming you will be here later today.

>>146871574
>90% sluts
why is this allowed?

>>146873146
You will retract those words, ser!
My pawn is a decent girl.

>>146873146
literally 25% sluts

Steam Sale, yes or no? Had it in my shopping cart two days ago, but my credit card was empty.
I also discovered that I have "Last Remnant" from last Summer Sale, so I'm not desperately in the need for a game.
What makes Dragon's Dogma unique? What's the waifu potential on the Pawns, I have no idea how they work.

>>146874091
>What's the waifu potential on the Pawns
Go take a look there: https://game.capcom.com/dragonsdogma/en/pawn.html?lv0=&lv1=&pname=&platform1=on
Note: those are console screenshots.

>>146874091
Dragon's Dogma takes some elements from Monster Hunter (mostly the fact that you fight big monsters and that heavy weapons actually feel heavy) and Devil May Cry, then adds its own thing to the mix.
If you like either of those two, or both of them then I think it's likely you will enjoy DD

>What makes Dragon's Dogma unique?
It's a single player action game at its core, but creating your own pawn and setting up a party with the proper combination of skills adds a layer of depth to it. Pawns can be good at combat, but never really quite good enough to be left completely on their own, so it's more like they complement you instead of taking your place.

Waifu potential?
Well, you can make a perfect waifu pawn who will accompany you everywhere and fight by your side, but you can't actually romance her, so if that's what you want then no, can't be done.

>>146873146
My pawn is not a slut

I want to make a decent Magick Archer build, but I'm a little lost.

How's this? I'm sure it needs improving.

http://stackoverflow.github.io/dragons-dogma-stat-planner/#as000000000a00001e32000000000000000014

>>146875851

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh_3Sj9B6ig

This one is great.

http://stackoverflow.github.io/dragons-dogma-stat-planner/#am00001400001e001e0000000000000000000a

>>146874786
>(mostly the fact that you fight big monsters and that heavy weapons actually feel heavy)
Also, you know, the crucial thing that sets Monster Hunter apart from most ARPGs which is that you actually go out and fight bosses specifically to chop parts of them off to upgrade your weapons and armour rather than to progress the story (usually). Apart from that (which Dark Souls also has to an extent) the only things that make it more MH than DS are how varied weapon classes are and gathering materials from the environment (also to upgrade shit and make healing items).

>>146875851
Unfortunately magick archer levels are generally detrimental to a magick archer. I feel like MA got shafted because its stat gains should have been identical to strider's; meanwhile strider's should be more like MA's but favouring physical attack, since striders don't use magic anyway.

That said, MA gets okay magic growth (the same as strider, in fact!) so that isn't a huge concern. Framae blades give 1429 physical attack when gold forged. Using the framae the difference between a pure MA, an optimal phys/mag mix and a pure assassin is 11% between the first and second, 17% between the second and third and 30% between the first and third, significant but not all-important considering you'll be stacking loads of 20% buffs by the end anyway.

If you're dead set on minmaxing, I recommend a balance of pure offence (use iframes and instant reset, you don't need defence): start as strider and starting at level 10 go 81 levels in assassin then the next 109 as sorcerer and get 601 attack and 604 magick attack.

But if you just grab like maybe 10 levels pre-level-100 as assassin and start as a fighter you'll be fine. You'll be picking up probably about 5 each warrior and sorcerer levels at some point to get their rank 9 augments anyway. Here's what that would look like
http://stackoverflow.github.io/dragons-dogma-stat-planner/#af000000050005000a46000000000000000064

>>146875851

Just do whatever sounds fun. MA can work well with any stat spread, you really can't screw it up.

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>as per some anon's suggestion, decide to use SweetFX for AA because fuck FXAA
>use the default preset because all I really care for is SMAA
>start the game
>get this
Fucking dammit

>>146879745
What's wrong with FXAA? It's the most cost-effective.

>>146875851

even stats

http://stackoverflow.github.io/dragons-dogma-stat-planner/#am000000000004005600000000000063000100

>>146880395
FXAA is literally just a blur.

>>146880395
It blurs everything up to hide the jaggies, I don't like it

>>146879745
https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/5014/

>>146880607
It's called aliasing, you fucking 8 year old.

>>146869756
This.

>>146878893

thank you

I'll try this build out.

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Hey /ddg/ long ass post coming but I hope some of you might be able to help.

I don't like to shill but I'm completely out of rift crystals(?) and I really don't know a reliable way of getting more so that's my problem number one.
Secondly I'd like to ask help in making a proper good pawn out of this one, she's scather/guardian and I'd like for her to become one of those dragon's maw spammers instead so I'm trying to get the RC for the elixirs and I'm in the process of doing casual BBI excursions in hopes of getting exp/vocation ranks, am I/the pawn overleveled for the area? each fight feels pretty darn tough.

Also, tips for augments/strats for fighter pawns? I know I want her to be a tank-ish character but as for my arisen I really don't have a clue, I haven't maxed out a single vocation yet and I'm currently a ranger but I really don't know if it's a good choice, the stat growths have me worried.

>>146881932
Also I really don't understand how as a ranger my longbow is doing ass damage while swinging daggers at enemies seems to wreck shit like I was playing strider/assassin, is there a powerspike or am I missing something?

>>146881924
Biggest thing to remember is that minmaxing doesn't matter much since it's a non-competitive singleplayer game, I just recommend some assassin/warrior levels to even out the offencive stats.

I honestly don't get why they didn't bother to put in SOME kind of aiming system for bombs. Literally no reason not to be able to aim slightly up without having to bloody jump.

>>146881932
>>146882336
I'll give you a hire for a while as I go through the main story a bit.

>am I/the pawn overleveled for the area?
Nah, there's no such thing as underleveled in BBI1.0 since it's actually well-designed to enable you to get through at any level (the first major boss even has a huge box of throwblasts right before you fight it so if you don't hit its damage threshold you can still kill it ezpz with those), but you're not overleveled for BBI1.0 until about level 70 either I'd say.

>Also, tips for augments/strats for fighter pawns?
Clout, the rank 9 warrior augment, is invaluable for any class that uses physical weapons. It's a passive 20% attack boost, stacks multiplicatively with other augments and periapts. I don't know otherwise though.

How many ranks are you as ranger? Tenfold flurry (rank 5 skill) is the best dps ranger can get I believe, and ranger with blast arrows and tenfold is ludicrously powerful and can even kill the final boss of BBI2.0 in a few seconds. Ranger gets the best stamina growth, probably to facilitate spamming tenfold. I think ranger is still lacking for everyday use compared to the other yellow vocations, but yellows are just really strong in general.

>>146883819
>meanwhile grimgoblins can aim their frigors and levins through walls even if you are above or below them.
the little asshats

>>146884258
Thanks for the hire and the tips, really appreciate it, come to think of it I did think throwblasts were a bit OP, feels like I aught to carry some with me all time

>>146883819
Because bombs are extremely powerful, having to learn their trajectory and get close when you throw them as well as losing mobility when holding one is how they're balanced.

Have you tried coin purses of charity yet? They do like 3x as much as throwblasts.

>>146884432
They weigh 10x as much as throwblasts as well.

>>146884397
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Thrown_Damage
Most throwing weapons are actually really good.

>>146884532
Worth it to see two or three healthbars gone in a second.

>give your Arisen a smiling mouth
>instant hilarity that lasts the entire game

>>146884821
Pics or I won't believe you, anon!

>>146884721
Maybe, possibly, I dunno anymore.

>>146885003
>Pics or I won't believe you, anon!
I haven't taken any, but it just makes your Arisen look so excited by everything that happens, like
>oh man this dragon is ripping out my heart and it hurts so much but this is SO cool and it's like a real adventure and oh god it hurts
or
>wow is this creepy wizard midget really mumbling threatening omens into my ear?? oh boy oh boy what a kooky guy I hope I see him again

>>146885617
>>wow is this creepy wizard midget really mumbling threatening omens into my ear?? oh boy oh boy what a kooky guy I hope I see him again
Fuck I forgot to do that scene on this run

>>146886323
Which guy is that?

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Started out my "cosplay run" thinking it was gonna be easy to make this all look good. Ended up having to imagine that Link lost his hat somewhere. And accompanied by Midna in her human form for some inexplicable reason, furthermore as his sidekick and not vice versa as would be the norm.

Just got her a Sanguine Stalk, if anyone wants to take her for a spin. Saving up crystals for getting her the grave/carrion stuff in the vain hope it will look decent on her.

>>146886487
Elysion talks to you in Cassardis if you run back there before doing Off With Its Head

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IT BEGINS ANEW.

>>146887148
Shoot, I never knew that! Also, she looks pretty okay.

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>>146888172

>>146888172
Purty kewl. Kinda makes me think of The Rock.

Quina looks odd, though.

>>146881932
>she's scather / guardian
Don't use the Guardina inclination ever. It only makes the pawn stay closer to you, which is really bad, since he won't fight enemies unless they're close. I'm playing sorcerer and the last thing I want from a fighter is him getting close to me and bringing all the enemies to me while I cast.
If you replace Guardian with something better I'll hire her. Check the New /ddg/ Pawn Sheet if you want other pawns as reference.

>>146888638
Quina always looked odd.
That's why she's not the best grill.

>>146889134
There are times when guardian is nice, though it's certainly a lot better on ranged classes. A guardian/utilitarian sorcerer for example.

Problem is you end up having to use the "come" command a lot to direct pawns and that increments their guardian inclination at an unfortunate rate. Meanwhile I hate scather because it makes them do that "HANG ON GOTTA SHIT MY PANTS" gesture all the time

>>146889350
Best grill would be Aelinoire. Letting Grigori burn Aelinoire in exchange for immortality and a kingdom? Easy choice.

>>146889573
>There are times when guardian is nice, though it's certainly a lot better on ranged classes.
Why would want your pawns to stay close to you? That usually means more enemies too, making it harder for you and easier for them to hit you and your pawn.
>A guardian/utilitarian sorcerer for example.
Yeah, sorc pawns don't cancel their spells often enough, so I'll give them that inclination so they also cancel spells to reposition closer to me.

Alright, just bought the game.
is there a spoiler-free list of things I need to absolutely know before starting? Stuff that'll fuck me over in the long run, or will be a tremendous boon if done early?

>>146890062
>Why would want your pawns to stay close to you?
Because they can catch you if you're flung or dropped or jump from a high place? Not everyone is playing a sorcerer with three fighter pawns expecting the pawns to just draw aggro somewhere else. The only inclination that's always bad is acquisitor.

>Yeah, sorc pawns don't cancel their spells often enough, so I'll give them that inclination so they also cancel spells to reposition closer to me.
Utilitarian sorcerers don't cancel their spells if you're casting the same spell, you share the same spell meter (as in, if one of you is knocked down, the other continues casting and you can pick the spell back up at the point they're at), you cast everything faster the more sorcs you have casting it, and they have to reposition closer to you to synchronise in the first place. Assuming you, the player, are smart enough to position yourself well for long casts, this is pretty much all ideal. Of course, if you want a sorcerer who will chain cast with other sorcerer pawns while the player plays something other than sorc, guardian is a bad thing.
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_Synching

>>146890260
Don't worry about noticeboard quests, those are "grab and forget" type of things that you will accomplish eventually, but if an NPC tells you to do something you should REALLY consider it since quests with actual story can be cancelled if you progress too far

>>146890260
The sooner you talk to the mysterious woman on the docks the more fun you'll have (she shows up in cassardis after an early point in the story)

Don't put your pawn in the queen's set, it just looks tacky. Dress pawns for fashion

Like >>146891250 said story sidequests can be missed if you go too far on the main story. On the other hand new game+ is an opportunity to do things you missed so don't worry about it enough to read a guide until then.

>>146891250
>>146891636
sweet, thanks.

>>146890984
So higher chance of pawns catching you when harpy-like enemies grab you is worth having your pawn bringing the enemies to you. Nice priorities.

>Not everyone is playing a sorcerer with three fighter pawns expecting the pawns to just draw aggro somewhere else.
I play with 0 fighters, because I don't really need them since I can manage aggro perfectly fine, but I don't want to get hit because a pawn was hugging my ass and I get hit by an attack directed to him.

>Utilitarian sorcerers don't cancel their spells if you're casting the same spell
Sorc pawns saving 2 seconds before they start synching is worth them bringing the enemies to you. Good luck casting when you there aren't any safe places outside of the enemies reach.

>I'll link the wiki Spell Synching article like you didn't know what you're talking about.

>>146892568
Guardian as an inclination is okay early-game for mages. Keeping your little buddy close to you so his enchantments come faster, or so you can defend him while he's healing are pretty neat.

I'm a level 86 warrior. Is BBI supposed to be hard as shit at this level?

>>146892568
>So higher chance of pawns catching you when harpy-like enemies grab you is worth having your pawn bringing the enemies to you.
No, I was naming one benefit. Having your pawn bring enemies to you is only bad if you're a ranger or sorcerer by the way (you shouldn't be a mage in the first place).

>I play with 0 fighters, because I don't really need them since I can manage aggro perfectly fine, but I don't want to get hit because a pawn was hugging my ass and I get hit by an attack directed to him.
What do you do about attacks directed at you? You're a terrible player, you're always hugging your own ass and drawing aggro.

>Sorc pawns saving 2 seconds before they start synching is worth them bringing the enemies to you.
I don't even know how to respond to idiocy of this magnitude.

>>146893827
No but BBI is hard as shit for warriors period. Warrior and fighter are the worst vocations for bitterblack but especially warrior.

>>146893827
It isn't. Ton of people do BBI as soon as they get to level 10.

>>146894004
>>146894041

Level 10? So I'm assuming everything here scales then? I can run through any enemy in the main story but everything here is tanky as fuck. Even the smaller enemies.

>>146894275
>Level 10? So I'm assuming everything here scales then?
No. There's no scaling whatsoever in the game.

>>146884339

Pretty sure you can do that too if you click down on the left stick.

>>146893851
Fuck off, shitposter.

>>146894275
>So I'm assuming everything here scales then?
Nope! It's in perma-hardmode too. It's just that the environment is designed to be exploitable by ranged classes and between endgame-tier weapon drops from the first area (if you're lucky) and various items and environmental weapons (like bomb barrels) at key points where a low-level character would have the most trouble, you can succeed at any level if you're clever and cautious. It's like all the dev time that didn't go into polishing the main game was added to BBI as surplus.

>>146894505
I'm not the one regurgitating stale memes, nor the one who has apparently only ever played one vocation since level 10.

>>146894358

lol what? There's no fucking way. I have a full dragonforged grisly bone set and a dragonforged dwells in light greatsword and some of the enemies still kick the shit out of me. Like the giant wargs for example. Takes fucking forever to kill them and I have to spam curatives the whole time.

How should I level my fighter pawn? What augments and inclinations too?

>>146895334
git gud
Also, weapons you find in BBI are much stronger than the weapons you find in Gransys

>>146895334
I really don't like saying that, but you seriously need to "git gud". I started BBI myself when I was about level 60. It wasn't exactly easy, but at the same time I never needed to look for help. And I was playing offline too, so with the mediocre stock pawns. The best advice I can give you other than to get better would be to just dodge really difficult enemies and level up on easier ones. Try to get bitterblack weapons, too, by purifying them, especially level 2 ones.

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>>146895334
see
>but BBI is hard as shit for warriors period
The problem is that warriors have only exodus slash as a defencive skill and rely on superarmour to poise through hits and high knockdown to avoid taking subsequent hits by knocking down and then curbstomping foes, and BBI enemies do astronomical diarrhoea shitloads of damage per hit and are highly resistant to knockdown. If you must play warrior I recommend throwblasts.

>>146895839
Iron Rook sitting that shit out

>>146896006
I made the mistake of reviving him after the gazer got back up, he got immediately petrified and we were out of secret softeners. He still had a lot of his revive timer left, should've just left him be so he could get the RC for his master.

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>>146888397
Octavia's here now.

>>146897131
You're doing it wrong. She's supposed to be the arisen this time, think of all the cutscenes reactions!

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>>146897131
Have some cute tomboy pin-up.

>>146897131
cuteavia

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>>146897356
More pin-up.

>>146897324
I'll do that for my NG+ on hard mode.

What is it they call the arisen in japanese? Kakkushu?

>>146898101
Onii-chan.

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I have made a mistake.

>>146898101
Sounded like Kaksha-dono
fuck if I know what it means though

>purify three BB lv3 weapons
>get three bitter end
Jesus christ I fucking hate this system so much.

>>146899606
u's in japanese are often silent or close to silent so kakkushu would sound like kaksha

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What the actual fuck I though I was doing good at a low level killing wargs no problem then this comes out of nowhere

who thought this was a good idea to put 2 minutes into a dungeon

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>>146900171

>>146900171
It's random, and he leaves if you leave the area and come back.

What are the best dagger skills and assassin combat skills?

>>146901103
for assassin specifically, thousand/hundred kisses is the only real must-have. With opportunism it can be very beastly.

Strider and MA have more diverse dagger builds since they get better skills.

Tell me about "pawn training" please

>>146900394
This webm is accurate

>>146902018
I can't tell you about something that doesn't exist.

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when do I start finding those BBI weapons everyone is talking about

I entered the second level I think, only found a single novelty? I thought they were overflowing from this place

post some NOT SLUT pawns

>>146903302
You start.

>>146902964
after beating the boss the first time they start dropping a ton. Not so much before that.

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>>146903302

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>>146903302
I'm afraid of doing this, but here I go. This is an attempted recreation of myself with an attempted husbando pawn. What do you guys think of him?

>>146904071
what a slut

>>146903302
>make pawn 100% not slut
>get nothing but insults on /ddg/
>pawn rarely gets hired
>turn pawn into rift slut
>nothing but compliments and slider requests
>pawn gets hired
i'll miss this dank place

>>146904080
looks pretty manly, can't say I agree with the fashion though

8/10

>>146904357
Thank you for the rating. He is very manly. As for the fashion, I just don't think I'm quite at the point yet where I can just completely choose what we wear. Note that he normally has helmet, and I normally have a robe, but I had to remove it for the pic because it gave him a green aura of healing.

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>>146904226
incorrect

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>>146903302

>>146905415
Piratefag anon, pls buy a legit copy already so we can hire this guy.

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>>146905848
No. I'm a poorfag who lives in a 3rd world country
Also, you can always just recreate him

>>146905467
Wut mods

>>146906792
ENB and don't blind me

>>146906756
Oh well, that sucks.
BR?

>>146907348
I guess you could say that we're the BRs or spics of Asia

>>146907498
Philippines? I mean, they have a professional boxer for a senator.

>>146907591
Yeah

Anyone need their pawn hired?

>/ddg/ is snarky today

Just like chilling with an abusive shitstain, niiiiiiiiiiiice.

>>146900171
>>146900436
Actually that first encounter isn't random. They throw Death at you early in BBI so that you know it's a bad idea to try to take him down until you're ready.

But yeah, he despawns if you go to a different area, and afterwards it's mostly a matter of chance, though killing more things is supposed to attract him. He also won't know you're there unless he shines his lantern on you or one of your pawns, so if he does show up, stay out of line-of-sight, and use the Come command for your pawns to keep them too busy jerking off to make trouble.

>>146904080
Looks like a manslut.

How far in should I go for my first time to BBI? Level 24, and cant make my up the midnight helix or whatver the fuck it is called.

ALL THESE FUCKING SPELLS

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>>146908628
I think it's recommended to attempt BBI at lvl 40+. Even the tier 1 gear has minimum level requirements of 32. So, go in as far as you're comfortable with if you're only level 24.

>>146881932
I'll take her out now in a minute but I'm seconding changing the guardian inclination. Scather/challenger is probably alright and you can throw in pioneer to keep the pawn further away from you but guardian will just result in a pawn too preoccupied with your arisen to actually be helpful. Reds are good when they're aggressive.

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Does pic related still post here?

>>146904080
Is that Chocolator? Looks like him.

This game doesn't run very well in my toaster. :'(c

>first playthrough I was fighter > warrior for the vast majority B CUZ I LIKE BIG HAMMAR
>"beat" it at lvl 54 and shelved it
>bored so I've started a hard mode NG+
>go strider > assassin because everyone said it's fun as fuck
>it's just alright
ffffffuck man
does this shit get better once I have invisibility and can afford a million blast arrows?

I'm also tempted to go into BBI now (I basically have never set foot in there or the Everfall except for a tiny bit) but my autism requires I finish the game again for all the cheevos

>>146909693
if you want invisibility and blast arrows level of OP then just make the next step and go full magick archer.

>>146909972
I don't think OP is necessarily what I'm after. Maybe I just need to suck it up for now until I'm comfortable enough with all my wonky new buttons to start styling on monsters again.

endgame stuff all sounds pretty neat though

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>>146910952
DDDA is basically all end game

>>146908449
What? Why?
>>146909513
Nope. Never heard of Chocolator.

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>when a pawn doesn't have 3 star knowledge of Death
F

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>>146911836

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>>146912054
>cheesing death because seriously fuck him and his pawn stealing ways

Would you grope and improperly touch your pawn, /ddg/?

I would fucking rape this sexy whore.

>>146912515
>49% rift sluts
>49% lolis
>1% husbandos
>implying the answer is anything but yes

>>146906861
>ENB
will it kill my framerate?
I can run the game about 140fps~, sometimes it drops down to 110.

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>>146912906
maybe, it depends on your rig. I don't believe it has a huge impact on performance but i could be wrong.

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BBI without a lantern is spoopy

>>146913128
If you use something like Resonance, it can make your game feel clunky and a lot of things clip like crazy

>>146912515
Is that even improper, anon? I hope not.

Which vocation is better overall? Strider or Ranger?

>>146914081
Pure vocations are always the best, so ranger.

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Attention newfriends!
Yes, you can go into BBI at any point, but please do the main questline and Everfall first!
If you try to go back AFTER you do the expansion, then everything will be severely underleved and not as fun anymore.

>>146914081
>melee
strider because of brain splitter
>ranged
ranger because of tenfold bolt

>>146914337
what expansion

holy shit this game i cant stop playing

Currently trying to kill the white priest with the dragon in bitterblack isle. Been grinding the areas a bit and keep getting dark encounters of op monsters like a one shotting troll

>>146914081
>overall
Strider has better stat gains and has brainsplitter and hailstorm volley
Ranger has best Stamina gains (<100) and Tenfold , which is super good
Try them both out !
>>146914526
BBI (BitterBlackIsle)

>get witcher because of steam sales
>play for a few hours
>come back to /ddg/
did DDDA break my expectations for combat? The witcher felt horribly boring and clunky in comparison.

Ur dragon is a fucking pain in my ass holy shit

>>146914729
I fucking hate those trolls. That Dragon priest shit was fun as he'll though. I played a sword mage guy, and did holy (or dark, fire? Whatever he's weak to) with the magic cannon. Put down two or three magic cannons and spam whirlwind on them. Shit was cash.

>>146891636
please stop directing new players directly into BBI.
let them enjoy the main game first!

>>146914729
fuck i didnt even know you could put more than one magic canons

thanks anon

>>146900436
Death has a couple scripted appearances during your first BBI run

>>146914337
Attention nigger. Keep your lewd shit out of here.

You folk should play through the main game before you go to bitterblack isle. About when you start seeing the skies over gransys darken, and different monsters spring up on the world is when Bitterblack is a practical challenge. You can almost consider the main game to be the tutorial for Bitterblack Island, if you would.

>>146914923
Offline? git gud

>>146915123
You could also stack 2 Ruinous Sigil together

>>146908628
Complete the main game first, going back to it after BBI trivializes it. You'll most likely be over leveled with weapon and armor that you got from there that makes the main game too easy.

>>146915332
>You can almost consider the main game to be the tutorial for Bitterblack Island
i wanted to say this but it sounds pretentious. It's pretty true though desu senpai

>>146914337
>mfw first playing
>go to BBI, awesome difficulty
>have to decide to make either BBI trivial later, or the main game a yawnfest because OP gear.
fuggg

>>146893827
>>146894004

I had a pretty easy tine with it. Slap on the 1/2 damage while charging augment and you can tank ogre drop kicks without much thought. Arc fucks pretty much everything and for everything else normal attacks are fine. Just bring pawns with magic damage and its fine.

I'm worried /ddg/, Aldous has asked me to go after a powerful Sorcerer named Salomet. That is the same guy whose grimoire made any common person be able to use strong magick. Surely, this Salomet is a fearsome adversary.

>>146916404
it's hard mode BBI that's a problem for warriors. Enemy damage is doubled, stamina usage spikes, and it becomes very difficult to knock anything down.

>>146916319
BBI's difficulty remains as challenging as ever, even after completing the main game because none of the gear in the game remotely compares to what you can get on BBI. You will NOT trivialize it by playing through the story first.

>>146916701
My talisman! MUH RIIIIIING!!!!!

>>146916710

I thought bbi was at its own difficulty no matter what you did. And how do you even run out of stamina as a warrior? The defensive augments get a huge boost in hard mode too.

The difficulty is still pretty exaggerated.

>>146917535
no, BBI gets harder just like everything else. Give it a shot if normal is too ez pz. Warrior has a notably tougher time in HM BBI 2.0 than the rest of the classes.

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it's worked so far
i was going to do a hire-whore
but fuck ugly seems to work

>>146917535
>how do you even run out of stamina as a warrior?
warriors have the worst stamina growth. On hard mode stamina usage increases dramatically. It's a major increase. So it becomes quite easy to run out of stamina.

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Have you kicked Feste in the face today, /ddg/?

what should I do with my max rank sorcerer pawn?, I don't have any skills left to buy. Should I keep it a sorc or move into other vocation?

>>146919613
get the mage augments. Otherwise yes, keeping it as sorc isn't a bad idea.

>>146919764
I went max mage, then max rank sorc.

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You guys like muh grill?

How to level up vocation rank without leveling up character as that vocation?

Is there an easier way besides constantly checking your experience and then running all the way back to an inn when you are 100 xp from leveling up to change vocation?

>>146920207
she's a qt

>>146920207
ye

menes

>>146901103
Masterful kill is pretty much what sets assassin apart from other classes and makes it more than a mixed fighter-strider. It's good if you're in the 1% of people that actually like assassin's creed's combat I guess.

>>146908628
ALL THE WAY NIGGER SEE >>146895839
THAT'S LEVEL 31 AND WAY PAST THE MIDNIGHT HELIX

I recommend either ignoring the gorecyclops or cheesing it with ranged attacks from the doorway. Then work your way up killing the mages one by one, try not to use anything with much commitment and remember they don't have much health. The real threat here is the gargoyle, make sure you bring secret softeners if you have them and if you can hire a mage with lightning spells if you don't have any yourself (levin might be best), gargoyles are weak to lightning. Alternately, if you can juke the gargoyle, just bolt for the top, grab the key and liftstone out, you can now open the grated door in the duskmoon tower.

are the later assassin skills even worth it?
I never see anyone recommend or even really talk about spider bite or easy kill unless they're talking about their upgraded versions?

>>146924319
Spider bite doesn't really work, better to use arrows or rusted bow.

I like the fancy windmill move but it's not that good either.

>>146924319
Spider/snakebite is really satisfying to pull off but only effective on smaller enemies (humanoid or smaller). Masterful kill is actually pretty strong but it's really shitty to use from a gameplay perspective (it's basically an assassassass creed counter attack), thousand kisses or gouge and climbing are your bread and butter.

>>146914337
I sort of got around this by only doing the first two sections of BBI and not using any BBI equipment I collected until after Grigori.

But then I went through Daimon 2.0 after that before I really did anything around Gransys post-Dragon, let alone the Everfall, and that was super underwhelming when I got to it.

>>146914909
Yes.

>>146889573
>"HANG ON GOTTA SHIT MY PANTS" gesture
what

>>146914909
TW3 feels more like DD's combat than games with better combat like Souls and MH desu, especially with the attacks autoaiming at enemies which is like the biggest complaint with TW3's. I like both despite that though. On the other hand TW2 sucks massive dick and I haven't played 1 so if you mean 1 that might just be plain bad.

>>146869557
You just hate that your's doesn't get 5 starred like mine

>>146924895
They squat and grunt/roar briefly, if scather is their primary it also shows up in their portrait during the credits.

>>146924626
I sort of like running all counters with assassin. Throw the dagger, sword, and shield counter skills on and then use myself as bait while my pawns fuck shit up.

That said, I tend to go more for flashy moves than effective ones.

>>146925204
Can you remind me what animation Mitigator gets?
I kinda like having my Fighter as Scather but that shit looks fucking horrible.

>>146925079
>I haven't played 1 so if you mean 1 that might just be plain bad.

It can be played with only a mouse, very simplistic "combat" in that game.

>>146920207
She would fit right in with Octavia.
>>146897356

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How'd I do, lads?

What are the essential skills for a fighter pawn?
I know Dragons Maw, but what else? I am too scared to make my pawn available for hire if he is shit

>>146927394
I've had pretty good results with Antler Toss and Hindsight Sweep for sword skills.

Shield skills are all kinda iffy tbqh, except for Sheltered Assault I think.

>>146927167
don't rob me

F / 25 / Cassardis

seeking pawns male or female. Magic and bow users only!!! No blacks, and nobody over 32

>>146929197
>Nobody over 32
Well have fun dying when the wyrm comes
My wizardry will save me from certain death

>>146927394
Antler Toss, Dragon's Maw, Blink Strike are pretty good.

Shield skills can be just about anything, but get the heck rid of shield summons.

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>>146927772

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bedtime bump

>>146932182
s-stay away...

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>>146932261

>>146933249
eeeeeee!!!!

>>146933249
oh my...

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HE KNOWS

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Seriously, this is too accurate to be a guess.

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>>146933542
>>146934794
are you dragons

>>146918460

But you hardly ever use skills as a warrior - or at least I didn't.

>>146920354

Just ferrystone back and save the running? Works great in the post game because the Inn is right by the port crystal.

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Is this really the low version of dont blind me, because it still seems bright as fuck

>go outside the city
>cart being attacked by goblins
>go to help
>griffon shows up and eats the ox thing i guess
>all soldiers that were with cart are dead
>flies away like a little bitch

WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED

>>146935327
>asking if someone is a dragon

how rood

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>>146935890

Time to become a big game hunter.

If you don't, who knows what'll get the drop on you next?

>>146936917
He's the one who ran away, not me

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Nobody takes me seriously as the Arisen.

>>146937196
i want to K I L L symone

>>146937264
Symone is cute and she has a funny walk animation.

Is it weird that I almost want to do a playthrough as a support mage magic archer? Loading up on buff/debuff skills and not really doing much in the ways of direct damage. Seems like it would be a fun change of pace. Maybe a strider pawn? Or warrior/fighter? I'm not sure.

>>146937463
So shackle, rebalancer, immolation or something, bracer, ward, vortex trail and perdition? I'd recommend a sorc pawn to benefit from rebalancer and handle magic shit since you'd still have a skill free on your daggers for something that deals physical damage like immolation or hundred kisses or sunflare.

>>146935583
That's not bright at all, you just don't have a proper filter for the glow and it's showing colour banding.

>>146937463
I tried that as a Mage and it was kinda fun but not as much as I expected tbqh
This >>146937643 sounds like a much better idea, I think.

>>146937583

I was actually thinking of packing a rusted staff for sweet cursing action but yeah, pretty much that. Grab those mystic knight augments to buff pawns on revival and either stack spell screens or rebalancers. Could be fun.

Not quite the same, but I actually had a pretty good time using that DLC archistaff that gets stronger as you land spells but drains your stamina if you get hit. Leveling pure sorc and the buff gets pretty huge, and the stamina loss adds to the glass cannon feel. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

>>146937463
I do that sometimes for my sorcerer pawn and have a really good time with it. If you're set on not doing much damage yourself you could throw in golden/aneled/rusted daggers for some debilitations too. Rebalancer makes the best magic bow valid even at low base magic so it's not like you'll even be completely defenseless.

>>146935890
I'm surprised nobody posted THAT

>>146935327
I'm finding your arisen way too amusing.

BONES HUNT IN PACKS

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>>146938452
I got it, fampai

Xtranic is hot!

>>146939276
Speaking of, when are the hunger games starting?

>>146938683
this is the best

thank god i didnt have anyone with me but pawns

>>146939506
When the thread is not dead and there is a decent amount of activity.

What happens in hunger games?

>>146940783
battle royale with white people

>>146937882
Yeah some of those dlc weapons have the potential to be really fantastic. The heracles sword scales almost purely on your physical attack but when goldforged has a 2/7 chance to do a 10x damage critical hit that, for instance, with a build that leveled solely as fighter and assassin (highest attack possible) will be the equivalent of a roughly 10k attack weapon (sans periapts of course).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LB-Ry3qqhM

Why does Mage pales in comparison to other blue vocations even though Mages have restorative spell?

>>146943118
Capcom was silly and didn't give them a proper fighting role, like... I don't know, holy magic.

>>146943252
Other blue vocations have holy spells.Anodyne and Halidom can only damage undead with holy damage

>>146943478
Think he means unique holy spells. Of course I'm sure they'd still be outclassed by HFB.

Were mages' healing spells better than curatives it would be a worthwhile vocation. The only good and truly unique thing mages get is grapnel and grapnel mages are the only kind I'd ever hire.

"Is that all? Barely worth the effort~~"
>whyboner

>>146943936
>grapnel
It's not as useful as healing/buffs even if curatives do exist.

So, let's talk dreams and fantasies, friends.

What would be your ideal location for a Dragon's Dogma 2 ?

>>146945249
I'd like to see Hearthstone or Voldoa but I wouldn't mind if they tried something different. Shame its never gonna happen.

>>146945249
A small snowed in town that's all romantic and shit, but you hang out in a love cabin/murder shack with your pawn and amass piles of monster corpses all winter long. Should be right next to some catacombs because skellies are basically the best part of any game.

>>146945893
I thought that Liru's boob game would never come out. People died before it came out, but it still came out. At this point anything is possible.

>>146945935
I'm all in for ruined castle in the snow.
What about some kind of tropical or coastal-like location. They really nailed the meditarean feel with Cassardis, I wonder how it would translate for a "Beaches, sand, coconut, big waves and colorful fabric" kind of location.

>>146945249
Something something until Tainted Mountain motif once again for those easy artpoints

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Okay guys I'm off for now but which do you think looks better?

>>146948867
they're both about the same. would not call either fashionable desu

>>146948867
I like the left one better.

>>146943252

They could have just given mages some extra buffs/debuffs. If they had attack/defense down spells or something, that could actually be really handy and would go along pretty well with Spellscreen and wouldn't really be stepping on MAs toes at all.

What is your top, absolutely most hated enemy in the game? The one that makes you want to bang your head on the desk in frustration, whenever you spot it in your path.

For me, it's Strigoi. They hit hard, fast as fuck, got the most annoying grab attack and you cannot run away from them if their focus is on you.

>>146953128

Ghosts, because I have yet to hire a pawn that knows how to fight the fuckers and they waste so much of your time by not even being there. It's completely tedious and I hate waiting for the fuckers to appear so I can get a single hit on them.

>>146953217
Guessing you'd love the BBI variants of those, then.

I'm kidding, they're awful too.

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>>146946084
>I'm all in for ruined castle in the snow.

Would love this.

>>146953128
>The one that makes you want to bang your head on the desk in frustration

I wouldn't go that far lol.

I don't like the dire drakes, too tanky and not fun. wyverns and wyrms are not bad though.

>>146953128
leapworms or Death

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Did that guy who saw his mother as a pawn ever return?

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>>146953128
Nothing.
I used to kind of loathe Living Armor for a while but then i got gud i guess.
I think wraiths are still kind of annoying, but i carry around surging light tomes for that reason anyway so no problem.

WOLVES

WALKING WOLVES

>>146955592
what

How to properly build a Magick Archer /ddg/?
1-10 mage, then proceed with Ranger till 50-60, then go full sorcerer? Am I missing something?

>>146958985
>>146779702

THANK YOU who hired Valeria for a good while and gave some gear, it's really helping me out and with the RC I've been able to finally afford some purification and elixirs, it's gotta be one of you anons and I love you

>>146949386
Any suggestions? At this early in the game there's not a whole lot available for blue pawns. Not that what's available isn't good, just that there feels like there's less options than what reds or yellows have.

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For some reason my game is playing in slow motion, like the whole game is afflicted by torpor.

Yesterday it was still playing well. What happened?

>The Wyvern and Drake are easier than most of the other post-wyrm bosses

How disappointing.

>>146962651
This shit happens to me frequently. I have a shit computer. It plays at normal frame rate (around 30+), but everything's at half speed.

>>146962651
Well... you already made the joke about Torpor yourself so I got nothing, sorry.

>>146963613
Wait, that's not just me?

>>146964876
its me

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Like tears in the rain, Arisen.

Speaking of, this game doesn't have a rain cycle does it? Huh, first time I really noticed.

>>146959261

If you wanna focus on magic get some levels as a sorc. If you wanna focus on knives level as an assassin. Otherwise just grab whatever augments you want and play the dang class. MA has enough utility shit to make up for pretty much any weakness. Just play the dang class if you want to.

Yeah, your stats matter, but not so much to where it makes any sense to avoid playing the class you want to. You can make that shit up in so many other ways. Don't force yourself to play classes you don't like because numbers.

>>146968352
Probably because everybody constantly being drenched would be absolutely miserable. Then again, something like a griffin fight in a thunderstorm would be pretty grand.

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r8 m8s

does giving my sorc pawn the Wyrmcrest Ring do anything or am I being dumb?

>>146971196
10% reduction in cast time.

>>146944873
That is frankly false. They can even grapnel shit like dragons, and unless you're very early game and playing a very small character that cannot carry much curatives make healing magic completely obsolete.

>>146971441
>remember it being 20%
>look it up
>that's for wyrmking and articulacy combined, which I thought was 40%
>this in the comments on wiki's articulacy page
>Alright, having just messed with the value (decided to try 75% for fun), that was a TERRIBLE idea. Apparently, MONSTERS use augments too. Frostwyverns and probably most tougher magic-casters use the Articulacy augment, because they were spamming Frigor and other such higher-level spells INCREDIBLY quickly. Maybe I could tweak the Wyrmking Ring instead, if I can figure out where item data is kept...
lmao, that sounds pretty fun actually

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>>146960312
Not 100% sure you mean me but if it is, I took a nice picture too.

>>146972072
I gave them an almace and grisly helm iirc and had them a while, but it looks like you gave them way more shit. I wanted to give her an orilux shield and send her back with a dragon's glaze but it turned out I'd sold my remaining oriluxes and dragon's glaze can't be gifted, rip

>decide to go into BBI because why the fuck, not
>run into an ogre
>"pssh no problemo kiddo I slapped these bitches in the quarry lets do this shit"
>get it to 1/3 health before it suddenly goes completely bonkers
>suddenly charges my Arisen and clotheslines me
>wildly flails around and smacks my pawns across the cavern while screeching like a chimp
>picks me up and eats me
holy FUCK this game is awesome

>>146972072

I hate how no torso clothing looks good under the Meloirean.

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>>146969887
flea/10

>>146972408

Maybe it should be a full plate instead of a half plate.

>>146973014

Yeah it should. It would be 10/10.

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>>146972359
'Tis weak to lightning, arisen

>>146972072
>>146972251
Yes I definitely got Orilux/almace and spooky scary skull helmet along with meloirean pieces, thanks once again. Now I just need to figure out which vocation to play, love them all

>>146972251
I actually considered throwing in an ascalon but I only had one left and didn't want to spoil the game by giving something to stong.
>>146972408
I think the white looks ok but yeah, I definitely agree. It just looks vaguely incomplete no matter what you put under there. It's a shame too because the more simple design compared to the other plate armours is really nice.

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>>146973131

>>146969887
I like her.

>>146973259
If you try MK or MA you'll probably never want to go back. Sorcerer can be really fun for a while and the levels are valuable if you're going to be any blue vocation down the line. Ditto with warrior and red or yellow vocations.

>>146899605

>Not being a Magick Archer

Serves you right.

I fucking hate tripfags.

>>146973601
Did they even playtest the strongest weapons? They're absolutely ridiculous. I'm gonna try oneshotting gregory house with grand sacrifice or whatever it's called, if I can find the blackwing bow.

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>>146974147
I am normally a magic archer but I've been leveling other vocations for stats and augments before bitterblack 2.0.

>>146974516

I say that, but I'm a very stubborn Fighter. I try to deal with those fucks with tomes and throwblasts. It's a fucking nightmare everytime.

what curatives do you guys take along when you're going to a spooky place?

and what materials are useful to duplicate? I've already done the gift ledger, wyrmcrest ring, gold idol and stuff

>>146974094
Yeah, I've been trying to play as Warrior to get clout augment but It is so underwhelming seeing how I leveled from like 15-50 as sorcerer so I think im lacking strength, but MK/MA is definitely my aim, thanks for the tips.

>>146972957
reeeeeeeee

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>>146974094
>>146973259
I switched to MK to play with the royal alms and actually had a lot of fun despite not being built for blue classes. Casting spells with a hammer has a surprisingly enjoyable novelty value.

>>146975126
What weapon do you have? Character attack is a lot of your damage early on but later most of it comes from your weapon and your character's stats only account for like 10% depending on whether or not you minmaxed.

>>146975447
cute arisen

>>146975042
Moonshimmer pelt for duping, lots and lots of wine for spooky places.

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>>146975410

Do I really have to sit in this chair a million times and hope I get the last speaking manner option I need? Also, for my tsundere wizbiz support pawn, I'm making her arrogant and confident and I'm thinking reticent for reviving her.

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>>146975827
LET HER REST IN PEACE

>>146975503
I have a 3star Triple tooth and its taking me a good 2-4 combos to kill grimgoblins so that has me a little worried.

Who is the best brown girl, arisen or pawn, in /ddg/?

>>146975867
good idea
also may I suggest confident for victory, the arrogant one really bothers me

Pretty new to the game, and I'm wondering what the best skills from other classes for Warriors to get are? I imagine vehemence from the fighter is good, and maybe bloodlust for the STR boost at night?

Anymore that I should be maybe looking to get?

>>146975042

Well, let's see

>Kingwarish x15
>Pyrepipe x10
>Monk Periapt x5
>Throwblast x20
>Lantern x1
>Oil x3
>Shattered Earth Tome x3

That's about it. I don't use anything from BBI and I try to play smart. I don't engage things like Gorecyclopes usually. I'm honestly waiting for a Strider pawn that isn't wearing Bitterblack equipment.

>>146976039
The one that makes you able to carry more shit, Predation and maybe that one augment from Sorcerer/Mage that reduces magick damage taken.

>>146975042
Potent greenwarish/kingwarish, panacea, give my pawn or any medicants mushroom potage and spring water, give all pawns secret softener. All of those except spring water which can be more easily had from the peninsula are either common in BBI or made from ingredients common there.

>>146975913
If you purify some level 1 bitterblack weaponry you might get a cyclops sigil, which is a decent post-game (actually mid-game thanks to BBI) hammer. It has much more attack than the triple tooth.

Personally playing warrior what I found best was exodus slash for hairy situations and dealing with hordes (surprisingly corona slash didn't seem very good for that, I'd usually get interrupted trying it), the jumping attacks, especially the jumping heavy, with the strider augment that increases jump attack strength by 30% and the warrior augment that increases the power of core skills as bread-and-butter, and arc of deliverance for seeing multiple healthbars go away at once.

>>146976019
mine

>>146975042
>>146976396
Oh and staminal drench or pyrepipes for myself as well.

>>146976437
which one is yours, then?

>>146976895
You don't need to worry about that

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>been three days since I made my pawn
>hasn't been hired, rated, or adventured by anyone
O-okay
Also which class is the best for showing off? I wanna see some crazy

>>146978474
Post pawn
Get hires
Seriously though, post info and I'll take him/her on an adventure, as long as he's not a Guardian/Nexus, or a Medicant Warrior or something like that.

>>146978474
Striders and assassins have the showiest mundane skills, sorcerers get all the big flashy world ending spells, and mystic knight and magick archer have the niftiest attacks in general.

>>146978474
If you post your pawn here you'll get some hires providing they aren't absolutely terrible. One of the regulars has been looking for new pawns for days and nobody came forward. I think magic knight is the most flashy class.

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>>146975552
Thanks, she has her moments.

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>>146978817
>>146978992
Her name is Alexandrine. She's got the inclination of a scather and challenger.
I just hope I didnt mess her appearance wise.

>>146980007
Cute peppy girl!

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>>146980007
I like it.

someone hire my pawn and give me some pointers then? he's a short and fat, low 60s utilitarian sorc (I think) named Hobo Hero

>>146979345
what face shape?

>>146978474
Sorcerer by far. Second's a tie between MK and assassin I'd say.

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>>146976019
Rienne's still too early in the game for fashion, but I like how her sliders turned out.