/lozg/ - The Legend of Zelda General

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First for Sheik is MALE

Second for Thread #6.

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>>146760759

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Second for the Triforce is hidden in OoT.

>>146760578
>>146760414
That's not how Zelda works. They don't make games to fill the gaps. You can say that SS was trying to fill something but it was not, it's way back in the timeline and in the beginning to fill anything.
Zelda is not about an overarching plot with everything detailed down to it's most minuscule particle. You have to deal with its vagueness and that's it. And Nintendo will never make a Zelda game where the ending is link being defeated.

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>>146760890
Yeah, it is the sixth thread, seventh if you count the prototype BotW general.
But someone asked to stop numering OPs so I did.

>>146760996
Number them. Why the hell not? It's easier to look for them in the archives.

>zelda game with link able to travel between timelines (hyrule in disrepair, classic hyrule, and the ocean)
would you buy?

>>146760964
Listen up, dipshit. An anon asked "what gaps would you like to see filled?". It's a what if, a hypotetical, something unlikely but that you still desire.
We know what you just said, we are just talking for the sake of it, holy shit. No need to act like you are the king of Zelda lore and kill off an interesting discussion.
Yes, I'd love to see a WW prequel. No, I don't give a fuck about how Zelda games are no plot hole covers.

>>146760996
I posted that specifically to bug the guy asking to not number them. Not that I hate him or anything, I just don't see the point in not. This is a board for generals, it's not us flaunting cancer in the face of other board-goers.

>>146761168
Tell that to the other anons who were justifying the need to have a game in between them.

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I'm going to fuck Fi

Why is she so delicious?

>>146761085
Sounds pretty damn dumb to me.

>>146761168
His last point still stands, they'd never make a game where Link gets defeated in the end (part of why the "Link is Defeated" timeline bugs so many people).
Also, calm the Hell down. He pointed out a few facts about game creation and you're sperging out right now. Take some breaths, listen to your favorite calm music.

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>>146761079
>>146761169
Let's number them, then. Assuming I'll made the next OP too, it's not always me.

>>146760759
Is his dick his left-hand middle-finger? That's why it is bandaged? To hide it?

>>146761274
I am one of them. I wasn't justifying jack shit, I said it is an interesting topic AND I also pointed out how the WW intro doesn't "explain" stuff, it simply says what happened in a very simplicistic way. You know, discussing for the sake of discussion?
>>146761398
As I said, we perfectly know he has a point. We were just answering to the answer of another anon. That's it. Is that so bad?
The one in needs of chills is >>146760964 not me. A guy that jumps on a discussion without even knowing what it is about is not chill at all. Just an asshole.

>>146761085
Would that be considered space-travel or time-travel?
Anyway, BotW seems to include already things from different timelines.

>>146761349
Blue is a sexy color, I'll give you that.

>>146761663
Yeah. I'm being aggressive in my responses huh? Go gack to leddit, summerfag.

>>146761663
It doesn't go in detail, but it does explain things. If it was not to your liking then well boohoo. Shit went down, no one saved them the goddesses intervened. If that is not an explanation i don't know what it is, there is even a nice drawing in that scene.

>>146761767
spacetime-travel

>>146760414
>Something went wrong.

Yeah, Link died of old age because Ganondorf was sealed. He is then resurrected and because there was no hero to stop him Hyrule was flooded.

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>>146761856
>>146761959
Well it took very little to complete retards that can't even read to jump in this general.
What part of "Guy asked an obviously hypotetic question and people answered to it" didn't you grasp? Does your mental handicap force you to take all posts in a litteral way? And then I am the one supposed to be a summerfag.
Do whatever you want, I'll go to "chill" as you said. Thanks god that discussion died with the last thread.

>>146762148
Old age? There is no Link after the Hero of Time defeats Ganon in the Adult timeline.
If i'm wrong, correct me please.

>>146761959
It's an explanation that allows expanding. I get it that you don't like an expansion, but why do you keep trying to shut down the other people who do?

This isn't the first time I see people in this general lash out at other who discuss things they do not want to be discussed.

Do you understand what you're doing here? Surely it's not your intention to bitch at people just because you can?

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>>146762284
SOMEONE GAVE ME A REPLY THAT I DID NOT WANT! MOMMY CALL MOOT PLEASE I CAN'T COPE WITH THIS!

You could've just ignored it, but you gave a response. Who's at fault here?

>>146762437
>Who's at fault here?
(you)

>>146762419
Who said i don't want it to be discussed? If i did want it to stop i would not be discussing it, would i?

If you want THIS discussion to continue, please keep up what you're doing.

>>146762304
http://zeldawiki.org/images/7/7c/Timeline_Hyrule_Historia.jpg

OoT's Link is like DBZ's Trunks. Each timeline that he existed in is separate. There's a timeline where he went back to being a kid and a timeline where he stayed an adult.

>>146762568
I have HH right here, it's even open in some random page. But i thought that in the Adult Timeline the Adult Link "disappeared" as is stated in WW's opening cutscene, as he went back to the other timeline and became a kid.

>>146762726
You are correct. It specifically says this in WW.

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>>146755460
Next time you make a question, please consider the sensibility of some people in this general. We don't want lore experts to be triggered.

>>146762809
Maybe it could be Zelda as Sheik or some descendant that would try to fight against Ganon. And she managed to call the god to flood Hyrule to stop him.

>>146762726
I suppose you can interpret that either way, I always figured that adult Link went off to other parts of the world or just retired.

>>146763128
Expanding on that, it would be an interesting spi-off to show the origins of Tetra.

>>146763274
Taking it literally and with the picture of him riding a horse, yes, it's like he travelled somwhere else. But as it is a legend, maybe Zelda just said to everyone that he went away and not that he went back in time.
That part where the intro says that the people called for me and he didn't came always struck me as if he was not even "there" at all.

The thing is, I always wanted a game where you played as Zelda that was not a CD-I one.

>>146762841
>>146755460
Yes, please. We here in the Legend of Tumblr General are a very diverse and strong group, with many experiences that could lead to replies to your posts inadvertently triggering us.

I wonder if it actually were the Golden Goddesses who flooded Hyrule. I also wonder why they went with that approach. Was it the king's suggestion and they simply went with it?

It's not exactly a good approach and as it turns out, highly ineffective too. Certainly not befitting near omnipotent beings. If it were "Goddesses", were it the "Golden Goddesses" or some other, lesser goddesses? With SS, Hyrule's divinity became much more complex.

To me, the Golden Goddesses are too powerful to even give a shit. Anyone who's capable of keeping the Triforce together can use it. That fact tells me that any "goodness" or good/bad principle cannot be linked to the Golden Goddesses. Any source telling it differently is rewritten history or horseshit. Of course Hylia looks out for her people, but do we know she's telling the truth? To her, the Hylians and their allies are the good guys. But anything in existence was created by the Golden Goddesses, monsters and demons too.

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I think this is still my favorite puzzle out of every Zelda game

>>146764275
Can't watch, I'm playing Oracle games and I don't want to be spoiled.

>>146763563
Well the way I see it, if the people of Hyrule weren't just assuming that the Hero of Time could just jump to any time then Ganondorf must've returned within a reasonable length of time for young link to have grown up and kicked his ass again. Granted, the crux of this assumption is that the 7 years of age is what makes the difference between Link's life and death.

Of course, for all we know the BotW Link is the adult OoT Link put to sleep to fight a future Ganondorf and he just didn't wake up because his Sheikah slate was on vibrate.

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Oracle of Ages>Oracle of Seasons

>>146764275
I think it was LA that has this kind of puzzle for the first time. Much smaller of course.

>>146764275
That looks like total bullshit

>>146764275
This puzzle is very nice and quite simple.

>>146764575
It's perfect, a simple and evident premise that still has a lot of space for experimentation.

>>146764181
What if a real flooding happened? Like, it started raining a lot or maybe a glacier melted and then all the Hyrule walley was flooded. Then many years passed and since legends like to warp reality, people started saying Godesses did it. But maybe it was just a real natural event.

>>146764759
Seeing how things happen in other games, a cataclysmic flood like that one wouldn't be so random.

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Hello

>>146764420
Man, I feel like I don't remember anything about that game. Seasons I remember a ton of, but Ages? Time to replay it I guess. It's only been like, 2 years.

>>146764759
>>146764883
Well, it's magical to a degree. Hyrule castle and other areas are covered by a dome. Large parts of Hyrule are preserved and frozen in time.

>>146765151
Pol's voice, keese, stalfos.
That's the order.

The Zelda general in /v/ died.

>>146765312
The flood could be natural but godesses decide to shield the castle. Man, who knows. Some things are cool because of suspension of disbelief.

>>146765485
>Zelda general
>/v/
why

>>146765485
That might be because generals are not allowed on /v/. Or maybe BotW discussion is naturally slowing down due to no new infos.

>>146765521
If it's like other /v/ generals:
>Guy tries to shitpost and/or start a circlejerk here
>It doesn't work
>He goes to /v/ instead
>It always works

>>146765512
A degree of laziness in storytelling is nice. If it weren't for that there would be no room to discuss lore of anything.

>>146765151
>Triggered

>>146765593
They are allowed actually. No encouraged.

>>146765614
Vidya lore is for people too lazy to read books.

>>146765605
The degree of stupidity and dick sucking (sometimes literal dicksucking) on /v/ is getting out of hand.
Chink moot even made a sticky one day, asking for suggestion how to improve the board. Well, guess what, nothing changed.

>>146765741
What about vidya books?

>>146765741
Reading books is for people too weak to have their own adventure and prove their own skills.

>>146765867
having their own adventure and proving their own skills is for people who are too weak to be an omnipotent god.

>>146765762
I really don't see how a board can be improved if the medium that it discusses is generally shit. There are many generals here that have the same atmosphere of /v/, guess why

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>>146765774
Are you talking about dirty visual novels with sexy animal girls? Because if so, the answer is yes.

>>146765867
>have their own adventure and prove their own skills
>via lore
>/v/ in charge of reading posts

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>>146765951
>/v/
Where do you think you are?

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>>146762304
>>146762568
>>146762726
>>146763274
>>146763563
Fuck it, I'm still awake so I'll post this thought I had recently. The Downfall Timeline has never sat right with me, and because BotW has such strong ties to the Adult Timeline but is almost definitely intended to be tied to the original LoZ as well, I suspect we'll be seeing some timeline shuffling on it's 2020 release. As such, I've been thinking a lot about the timelines recently.


One theory I've thought of is "what if a third timeline was created by Zelda sending Link back?" There would be the Child Timeline: remains as we know it; the Adult Timeline: where Link disappears from the world (this messes with the reincarnation cycle); and then for lack of a better word there's the Elder Timeline: where Link does not disappear and lives out the rest of his days in the aftermath of the Adult Timeline. In the Adult Timeline, the Hero's Spirit is "lost," if you will. Link never died, it sort of, maybe didn't exist for a while because it disappeared with its vessel, but the end result is that Link could not be reincarnated when Ganon (not Ganondorf, as shown in the Wind Waker prologue) broke the seal, so "he never appeared." In the Elder Timeline, Link lived, he died, he reincarnated, and when Ganon broke the seal he was ready. Potentially, it was even A Link to the Past when Ganon broke the seal, when I heard that Ocarina of Time was apparently the prologue of ALttP elaborated upon, I assumed "The Sealing War" was a name given to the 7 years after Ganondorf took power or a more exaggerated recollection of it.

1/2

>>146766014
>Where do you think you are?

/vg/, where some wandering /v/irgin didn't take the time to read a message string.

>>146765485
I know, I'm sad. I kind of liked it.

>>146764410
RIGHT HANDED

Can we please stop with the "link died xD so ganon won and downfall shit happened" meme?

It's clearly just a byproduct of fucking with timetravel and not because link died in OoT

I mean for fucks sake, the only way for him to get to the castle is after saving all sages, which requires time fuckery. There's no way he could get to ganon and lose

i hate you degenerates

>>146766737
Read Hyrule Historia.

>>146766143
I don't like the downfall timeline as well. Mainly because Nintendo didn't mean to make these games really connected at all, maybe 1 and 2 only, and only after OoT did they actually began to connect them. I would really like Nintendo to remake the pre-64 games and fix this shit.

>>146766143
No 2/2?

>>146766737
GRASPING

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What would /lozg/ do if they had creative of the next Zelda game, assuming BotW didn't satisfy some of your mechanic-related must haves?
I'm a serious Majoras Mask fag so I'd definitely bring masks back. I even have an autistic paste on what I'd do specifically. http://pastebin.com/aDhkvC1E
Also the 3D zeldas could show a bit more love to past 2d titles. A 3D Zelda chock-full of 2DZ references (good ones) would be seriously comfy

>>146766885
He fell asleep right there on the keyboard.
RIP anon.

>>146766879
WRONG WRONG WRONG

>ZELDA 2
OBVIOUSLY A SEQUEL
>LINK TO THE PAST
IT'S A PREQUEL IT SAYS IT IN THE TITLE
>LINK'S AWAKENING
OBVIOUS LTTP SEQUEL

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>>146766779
But we love you.

>>146766857
>>146766902
>be the hero of time
>pass all trials
>defeat all bosses
>save all sages
>have all the weapons
>go through all the trials in the castle
>go through all the floors

>cause a lot of shit for literally the whole world because you never were good at volleyball

>>146766971
>if they had creative
Fuck
*creative control

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>>146766595
Well shit, somehow I'd managed to miss that.

Maybe it's the Link from TP :^)

>>146766737
>The hero is defeated

>>146767005
And Ocarina of time was supposed to be the imprisoning war mentioned in Link to the past, and it's kinda true, because the imprisoning war happens if Link loses in OoT.
And Majora's mask was supposed to be a sequel to OoT.
And Wind Waker was always a sequel to Ocarina of Time.
By Twilight Princess they already had at least two timelines planned.

>>146767030
This turns me on only to the point that i remember that this is a dude. I need to think very hard that this is not Link.

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>>146767005
>>146767126
Oh wow!!! Who would have thought? The games were always connected!

>>146767125
>>The hero is defeated
Just in concept, doesn't mean Link actually was defeated in a fight against ganon, or fucking drowned in the water temple, or burned to death in death mountain or got trapped in the spirit temple and starved to death

He just failed because of time fuckery

>>146766971
I like very original sidequests. I'd love a game with tons of them.

>>146766971
ZELDA 2 HIGH JUMPING RETURNS AS A RUNE
MAJORA'S MASK TIER SIDEQUESTS
OPEN WORLD LOFTWING RIDING
TSUNDERE GANONDORF INCARNATION BEFORE OOT (OR MAYBE EVEN SS) THAT IS RELUCTANTLY GOOD

>>146767337
Same. This is the main reason If such a MMfag. Trumps even having transformation masks in.a game.

>>146766779
You want to start some shit you little dick having, kid loving, butt plug up the ass, cunt. I'm going to find your mom and hold her hand. I'm going make you and your dad watch as our sweaty hands make contact for long periods of time, and you are helpless to do anything about it. You're going to regret saying those things about me.

>>146767428
MAKE ZELDA GREAT AGAIN

>>146767326
DO YOU KNOW WHAT DEFEATED EVEN MEANS

>>146767492
I'd be really uncomfortable with some strange person holding my mom's hand.

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>>146767272
No need to be buttflustered.

>>146767326
>He just failed because of time fuckery

Your source on that being what?

I'm gonna guess a whole lot of nothing since you've been trying to b8 with this since the last thread. If you want to be this general's Lucifer and spend all day spewing dumb shit then that's fine but at least put on a name so I can filter you.

>>146767492
little did you know my mom and dad are separated and she's lonely :^)

>>146767537
CONCEPTS MOTHERUCKER DO YOU SPEAK THEM?

>>146767326
What does timefuckery even mean here?

>>146767494
The word trump, trumps, trumped, ect has increased in my vocabulary a thousand fold for reasons

>>146767685
de·feat·ed
dəˈfēdəd/
adjective
having been beaten in a battle or other contest

ALMOST AS IF DORF WHOOPED HIS ASS

>>146767494
THIS AIN'T ME

>>146767326
"The hero is defeated" means the fucking hero has been defeated. There's no more room for interpretation.
Youcould argue he didn't die. We have no clue if he was dead or alive. But sure as fuck he was defeated. Time travel fuckery means jack shit.

>>146767712
He isn't even in office, and he's already making things better.

>>146767685
>>146767786
>>146767537
de·feat·ed
dəˈfēdəd/
adjective
having been beaten and killed in a battle by Ganon/Ganondorf

>>146767909
>>146767786
>>146767708
>>146767643
>>146768147

So you're telling me, that the same guy who clears all dungeons, saves all the sages, goes through all the trials, holds the triforce of courage and literally everything else in the goddamn game somehow, by some fucking miracle, gets defeated in one instance and in another one doesn't?

Come the fuck on and tell me that that's what happened. Oh and look, for there to even be 2 exact same instances where Link reaches the final fight, there has to be time travel.

The very idea of the Hero of Time being defeated in the last battle after achieving everything else is just plain fucking retarded and an impossibility if nothing else, thanks to the very fabric of fate at that point.

Link could not have been defeated before or during the final fight, and things could not have gone differently, there's no fucking "flag" or event or cause that would trigger the Hero of Time to lose.

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>>146767391
>TSUNDERE GANONDORF INCARNATION BEFORE OOT (OR MAYBE EVEN SS) THAT IS RELUCTANTLY GOOD
Same guy, and are you literally me?
I have this vision of Zelda, Link, and Ganny sitting around a campfire in set points throughout the game (a psudeo-hub of sorts) generally being bros, doing meaningless shenanigans with their Triforces (weakened in Termina), mocking each other while drunk.
Then Ganny s.sneaks away to a perch and tries to assiassinate either of the other two with an arrow or something. They dodge, lock eyes with him, then procede to,give each other shit eating grins.
>"I'll get you next tiiime"
>"No you won't faggot"
>resume the banter

I'd have the goofiest smile plastered on my face.

>>146768310
Link loses the master sword during the final boss fight.

>>146768402
Oh this is sadism in a whole other level. They just kill people for fun. It's like Ludo from Rance.

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>>146768124

>>146768310
Did you ever die while playing OOT? Boom defeated :^)

>>146768310
How can it be timefuckery if the ocarina doesn't kill him, the sheikah stone don't kill link, and he doesn't die anywhere else in the game other than in the dungeons or fighting ganon.

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And then, I thought of an even darker--yet the more I think of it more compelling--turn of events. The "Elder Timeline" and the Adult Timeline as described above are switched. In other words, Link is removed from the timeline, the Hero's Spirit finds its way, reincarnates, and defeats Ganon when he breaks free, events proceed into ALttP and the Downfall Timeline. In the Elder Timeline, Link is still alive after saving Hyrule. He becomes somewhat of a celebrity. He's the legendary Hero of Time, known far and wide and revered by all. It all goes to his head a bit, he gets pretty chummy with the royalty. Note: It's either said or implied in the Hyrule Historia that the Hero's Shade is formed because Child Link regretted never being remembered as the hero, that his regret was that strong could imply an Adult Link recognized for his heroism would become vain. No hidden pedestal in the woods or spot in a second-banana temple, the Master Sword will rest in the Castle. We're gonna build a fucking statue of him in the castle (which, if you think about it, would have been much harder to do without a model). Adult Link grows old not out adventuring, but in the lap of luxury. He is beloved by the entire nation that rebuilt and continued generation after generation seeing "the hero" firsthand, he is more revered in later eras than ANY past hero has been, and he is never forgotten, even after the kingdom is.

But the kingdom still dies. Ganon returns, and the people look for the hero. Not for arms, not for allies, but for the Hero to appear like he once did, vanquish the evil, and save Hyrule once again. But the hero did not appear. There was no reincarnation of Link to fight off Ganon and save the day. Because Link is still alive.
And, seeing how in the Downfall/"Adult" Timeline Hyrule slowly dies on its march to "the last hero," perhaps the Hero of Time's failure--if true--was ultimately the best for the kingdom in the end?

>>146768310
Yes, yes, yes. Shit happens, anon. On paoer Link is overpowered, as you said. But on paper you can say the same about Ganondorf. So in the end, when two equal forces fight eachother, the result may vary.

>>146768784
You didn't link your posts and put 2/2 at the bottom.
You are not lorebro of timefuckery

>>146768715
Because he simple disappears from the timeline. In one instance he does so after defeating Ganon and being sent back by Zelda.

The other instance, which triggers the downfall timeline, is one where Link creates a future without him after going back in time with the master sword itself

>>146768947
You do know that in the officially release book of lore by Nintendo called Hyrule Historia it is stated that Link is defeated by Ganon precisely at the final battle?

>>146768784
Shit, forgot to link this part to >>146766143 (I was pushing the character limit, anyway).

>>146766885
>>146766981
Yeah, sorry it took so long. Was typing & rewriting.

>>146769141
Yeah and that is fucking bullshit

>>146766879
>>146767005
>>146767126
The more I've been thinking of timelines recently, the more it just makes sense to me that the 2D games are all connected (including ALbW), and the 3D games are all connected (not including ALbW), but the 2D and 3D games just don't have a strong connection.
I say split them off now and save the hassle of trying to jerry-rig a third timeline onto Ocarina of Time.

>>146769141
That makes sense, it would mean that if he didn't have the biggoron sword, or ran out of arrows when Ganon punched the Master Sword out of his hands, he would have died there. The final battle against Ganon seems the most probable place for Link to lose.

>>146769141
Even if that is officially "canon" it's so shit that most people just assume it invalid and resume discussion as normal. As they should.

>>146769259
Yeah, they had to create a whole new timeline just for the 2D games.

Oh man, I missed the shit fest that was Zelda lore discussions.
Look on the bright side, our lore isn't as fucked up as Elder Scrolls.
Not that /tes/ cares about lore, as much as they care about posting skyrim butts

Talking about /v/
There is a new Zelda thread there.
>>342955803

>>146768310
>Source is self
>Substance is subjective bullcrap that ignores that Ganondorf holds 1/3 of the Triforce and that Link needs gadgets, a magical sword, and Zelda's light arrows to beat him

>>146768947
>In one instance he does so after defeating Ganon and being sent back by Zelda.
>The other instance, which triggers the downfall timeline, is one where Link creates a future without him after going back in time with the master sword itself

Both of those are covered by the 2 victory timelines, which was covered earlier ITT.

>>146769595
I thought that was the PS triple thread.

>>146769267
>not just using the megaton hammer when you lose the Master Sword

>>146769595
>>342955803
I think i forgot how to link threads

>>146769731
It's because this is /vg/, you forgot to send it to /v/ before posting the number.

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>>146769595
I won't go back to /v/, thanks but no thanks.

>>146769595
>>146769731
It's like this, Anon.
>>/v/342955803

>>146769649
>Both of those are covered by the 2 victory timelines, which was covered earlier ITT.

He defeats ganon and is sent back in time > creates Adult and Chillhood timelines

He goes back in time before defeating ganon using the master sword > creates downfall timeline

How is this hard to grasp?

>>146769781
Ah fuck. I forgot it was another board.

>>146769823
...but with one more arrow. Everyone's fucking up.
>>>/v/342955803

>>146769828
Why would he go back in time before fighting Ganon? He just threw a fit and "fuck Hyrule"?

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>>146760660
More evidence for the theory that the great plateau is the ruins of OoT's Hyrule Caste and Castle Town. My bad if it was already posted.

>>146769964
He needs to do so for the Spirit Temple

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Imagine being so desperate you come to /vg/ to shill your /v/ threads

>>146769828
>He goes back in time before defeating ganon using the master sword > creates downfall timeline
>Grows up naturally
>Beats Ganondorf in 7 years

How is this hard to grasp?

>>146766971
Zelda Souls.

That's right. And I don't give a fuck about what anyone else says. It needs to happen.

>>146769989
Nope. If it really was OOT map, then you would be able to see Death Mountain behind the Temple of Time in BOTW.

>>146770081
Ah i got what you're trying to say. As he creates two timelines where in one he goes back in time after defeating Ganon, any time that Link would go back in time there would be a timeline in which Ganon had no Link to fight him.

I understand what you're trying to say, but it feels more of a plothole by Nintendo.

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>>146770158
>Implying Zelda wasn't Souls before Souls was Souls

>>146770158
As long as you allow me to wear Darknut armour + Bunny hood and a Claymore infused with a Din gem and invade people than it's all ok

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>>146769595
Why have Zelda general threads on /v/ when /vg/ was created for that specific purpose?

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All I want in this game is for there to be Gerudo's other than Ganondorf. Be they enemies or NPCs (vendors or otherwise)

>>146770257
>there would be a timeline in which Ganon had no Link to fight him.

Basically, which prompted the imprisoning war

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>>146769989
NEAT DETAIL

>>146769383
Yup. And I think they should just remove the Four Swords stuff from the rest of the timeline and use it them as an origin story for a 2D timeline that's completely separate from the 3D games timelines.

>>146770302
But it's not anymore and it hasn't been for over 20 years. Hence I want it back.

>>146770345
Because /v/ has a reputation out of 4chan. So the masses go there.

>defeated

>>146770345
It's easier to get answers and (you) on /v/, because it's a faster board.

>>146770558
>But it's not anymore
>Still practically the exact same game
>Souls is largely a derivative of the formula

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're one of those people who only associate Souls with difficulty.

>>146770636
>defecated

>>146770837
>defenestrated

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>>146767391
>>146770158
>>146767337
>>146770326
Then in these veins how good/plausible does this sound (think this is a feasible alternative to what Soulsfag wants):

I would essentially have the mask collecting thing make a return. A simplistic idea but I would have an increase in the total mask number from what it was in MM.

The cool part however; is that I would also introduce the "Face Sword". This guy would also double as the classic companion character. A sword that has a blank face on its guard that the various masks in the game could be equipped to, giving it various powers and puzzle solving utilities. The game would be gloriously difficult in places where you had to nimbly switch between masks both on Link and the sword in a very short span of time to use the very subtle effects each variety imparts in a given situation.
>One mask to raise a cube of earth from the ground, then a fire mask to strike only the left side of that cube (aim carefully), a time-slow mask on Link so you can run to the other side before the fire runs out, and put the bunny hood on the sword whose now-fast thrusts are the only thing that can hit every puzzle slot in time.
Have enemies in certain challenge modes/areas require things like this as well.
1/3.

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>>146771047
The best part; not only would you have unique masks different from MM (bring back the old must-haves of course) you'd also get to actually place the masks on your SWORD at the same time, granting you elemental transformations, puzzle-solving utilities, and other abstract stuff. Maybe replace the Ocarina by having a legendary "Bard Mask" that you must aquire that you then place on your sword to gain the song making mechanic. Put it on Link to -learn- the various songs throughout the game. Put it on the sword to -play- the songs. You can even use 2 masks at once by equiping one on Link, one on the sword. Best part is that the Transformation masks (of which I'm thinking 5 instead of 3) will change the instrument depending on the race.
Heck even have the minor masks add these purely aesthetic aesthetic -slight- musical/visual alterations (or even with a tiny puzzle solving potential) to the base instrument. I also have an idea for another mask category other than transformation. 'Summon Masks'. The only one of which I have thought up is Midna's Fused Shadow. Putting it on summons Imp Midna. Put it on the sword; True Midna. Midna + Bard-Sword would even give her a Twili instrument to play instead of you.
This would be how the optional pick-a-companion thing some people are clamoring for would operate. Tons of waifu potential, had idea for a mechanic grill that would use a bunch of gadgets including a mortar to rain hell from, the back while you charge the front. Pretty much pic related.
2/3

>>146771047
I'd like a mask system without the 3 major masks.
Basically more masks with more power, not to the point of transformation. Even though i liked them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNVPUC_mtoA

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>>146771171
Each summon character, lets use Midna as an example, would have two modes: contextual and companion (mask on Link and Sword respectively). Midna in Imp from would do her action like playing a Twili instrument among others then go away. Putting a Summon mask on Face would bring True Midna with dual Twili scimitars or some shit and would follow you "Hey I'll carry yo shit" style. May or may not deprive you of your sword, dunno.
There would be three special masks; one would be the mid game occurrence that is equivalent of gaining the upgraded Sword in the previous titles; the Mimic Mask. Now whatever mask you have on will be treated as if it's also on Link/Face Sword at the same time. The Goron weapon/item/action/effect can now be wielded by the Goron itself etcetera; boosting and/or altering it slightly.
The others would be the Bard Mask and, surprise surprise, Majoras Mask. I plan on having Fierce Diety be the antag so a fun little gimmick in having the final mask you collect be obtained in the same way you got FD in MM would be kickass. You know everyone and their grandma wondered what it'd be like for Link to don Majoras Mask so now they can. It'd be limited where you could put it on but just boss battles was kinda gay so it could have rare uses in the creme-de-la-creme of sidequests, challange modes and puzzles.
3/3

Why do peopel like the 2D games? They're hard as shit, boring, and ugly.

>>146771271
>GiIvaSunner
No.

>>146771271
TP had some great songs and some horrible abominations like that one

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>>146771328
>peopel

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>>146771328
>hard as shit

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>>146769202
>>146769380

>>146768784
I did not seriously spend 40 minutes fine-tuning this thing just for one Anon to discredit it because I forgot to link, did I? goddamnit. Knew I shoulda tripfagged whenever posting something autistic


Nah, I'm just trying to bump that topic back up.

>>146771628
Format it better and try next thread or on /v/

As it stands right now, it looks too long and doesn't catch my interest with the picture. Try something lewder, with Fi hopefully

>>146766143
>>146768784
It's not a bad theory. But I tend not to give much credit to the Soul of the Hero.

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>>146771628

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>>146770345
I liked it for the freewheeling nature and the shitposting.
Plus it was the "comfy" Zelda general. The comfy is important.

>>146771628
It's a clusterfuck.

>>146771731
>or on /v/
Man, you guys are desperate.

>>146771731
Yeah, it's pretty thick paragraphs and could do with more posts with less words each. But I began writing it in the heat of Adult Timeline discussion, but when I posted it was all over. It's like... getting a boner, then losing internet connection.

>>146771828
Please, have one back. I don't take handouts.

>>146771197
I get the sentiment but I love being other species too much. I WOULD definitely have the minor mask play a far more prominent role (ala the green in part 1/3) effectively reducing the transformation masks role a little.

>>146771936
What the fuck is your problem?

Why the fuck do you need to jump at me for saying he can make a thread about a fucking videogame on the fucking videogame board?

Do you just hate /v/ that much that you need to jump and the very mention of it and start shitposting all over the place?

>>146772048
Not only desperate, you also get easily buttblasted when you get called out. Oh boy.

>>146772042
>getting a boner, then losing internet connection.
>type out a huge post
>"Connection error"

Gee thanks moot

>>146772048
/v/ probably hurt him at one point or another. He fears those aspergic bastards. Though, to be fair /vg/ is where you go for less autistic discussion than /v/.

>>146772048
Well, /v/ is a cesspit.
It's mere name shakes the hearts of men.

>>146772146
Oh God, did that happen to you in pre-extension days?

ARRGH WHY IS THIS ONE ANON SO DUMB AS TO ARGUE WITH HYRULE HISTORIA ITSELF?

>>146772384
>one anon
You mean everyone since the book came out?

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>>146772384
Hyrule Historia might change.

>>146772384
It is a lazy book that will be retconned in the eventual new edition that is going to come after BotW proves that Time Loop timeline is real and that game is the Alpha and Omega of the franchise.

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>>146771537

>>146771047
>>146771171
>>146771318
The biggest problem that I see with your idea so far is the "face sword." BotW makes it clear we won't be bound by swords and that our weapons are now finite. To start you off with (what I assume would be) an indestructible sword that you'll use for most important things in the game will be seen as a step backwards.

>>146772384
Because someone always has to be the faggot saying that Marche was the bad guy.

>>146772561
WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

>>146772384
Because the explanation given in the book is utter stupidity

>>146772660
It means that Ganon does not kill Link in the Downfall timeline as Link simply went for a stroll to eat something with Impa in Skyloft.

I don't have a Wii U or a 3DS but want to play some Zelda, which should I get?

I feel 3DS is smarter because what if NX is backwards compatible?

>>146772765
Being stupid does not meant that it is not canon. Just look at Star Wars. The prequels are shit, the new trilogy is shit and Thrawn Trilogy that is better will never become canon.

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>>146770220
I never said that it was OoT's map, just that the ruins are clearly the remnants of OoT's castle town, and it shows through small details like these.

Also I think it's pretty amusing that everyone jumps to the downfall or adult timeline conclusion when everyone seemingly forgets that Calamity Ganon is festering around at a ruined Hyrule Castle Town that strongly resemble's TP's Castle Town in terms of looks and location.

But then I'm one of those timeline conversion believers, so who am I to talk.

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>>146772632
>Samefagging from 2 networks

I'm on to you

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>>146771537
its not me................

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>>146771328
>hard as shit
>boring

????????

>>146772801
With a 3DS you can play OoT, MM, ALBW, and the original. Objectively the best Zeldas. New 3DS lets you also play AlttP. And let's not forget the DS Zeldas and the Oracle games.

The answer is clear.

>>146772925
It does look like TP's castle doesn't it.

>>146772640
Right. Don't take this as necessarily made with BotW in mind. I like BotW, don't get me wrong, but if the game after would do a somewhat return-to-formula (MM isn't exactly the formula but still) with of course a small smattering of the good ideas BotW introduces, then I'd be happy.

Or, go ahead and assume my pasta intended for this gen and alter accordingly.

>>146773212
>I like BotW, don't get me wrong
But it's not out yet

>>146773185
It's just Hyrule's Disney version

Calamity Ganon gets his own musical segment even

>>146773076
People only do that on id boards champ

>>146772640
Expecting new iterations of Zelda keep every mechanic from BotW is retarded

If they do, they might as well go back to just copying the latest master piece of the series.

They should know that whatever they do after BotW will have to be different enough that to comparisons will not hurt it as much as they did to TP and SS

>>146773281
You know what I mean. Or if you didn't; the games current implied design philosophy

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>>146772632
>9380_{you)
>>146773082
>9380_(you)

>>146773335
Sure they do champ

>>146773510
STUPID SPONGEPOSTER

>>146773212
I gotcha. Though honestly, one thing that makes the Zelda series so resilient is how each game can be different enough from the rest that you'll go back to replay it years later and it won't just feel like a worse version of the older ones.

They could probably release a future Zelda game with a less open world or only your trusty sword and it wouldn't be considered a step backward.

>>146773510
What a retard

>>146773510
Oh man I didn't notice that, thanks for pointing it out based Sponge bro

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>>146773679
>retard
>because I didn't get fooled

>>146773913
is ganon an alligator

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>>146773510
Wh-what

>>146772801
As the other anon said, 3DS is a better idea. If you manage to snap an ambassador 3DS you can play Loz 1, 2 and Minish Cap for free.

And don't count on NX being BC.

>>146765593
>generals are not allowed on /v/
Tell that to the DBZ generals.

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Huh...

>>146772801
>I feel 3DS is smarter because what if NX is backwards compatible?
You can play literally every game on the Wii U outside of ALBW and TH.

hylians = christians
gerudo = muslims

who are the jews of hyrule

>>146774405
I fucking knew you were a samefag

>>146774551
>TH
?

>>146774719
Triforce Heroes.

>>146773510
>>146774047
>>146774112
>>146774405
Was spongeposter literally assblasted enough about his wrong samefag assertion to edit in (You)s to his image or is the site fucking up?
These images having custom filenames makes me think the former

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>>146774694
Link.

>>146774694
Sheikhas

>>146774694
Just because Gerudo's are brown doesn't make them Muzzies numbnuts. They litteraly are a race of 99.99% women in aggressive and leading roles in their society.
Thats fucking stupid

>>146774914
Spongebob fell for a blatantly obvious troll in the form of >>146773082.

>>146774694
Tingle.

>>146772384
>>146772520
>>146772641
From the Historia:
>This chronicle merely collects information that is believed to be true at this time, and there are many obscured and unanswered secrets that still lie within the tale. As the stories and storytellers of Hyrule change, so, too, does its history. Hyrule's history is a continuously woven tapestry of events. Changes that seem inconsequential, disregarded without even a shrug, could evolve at tsome point to hatch new legends and, perhaps, change this tapestry of history itself.
tl;dr version: We may say this is wrong later, we may change things when a new game comes out, we may change it because we retconned something.

>>146774914
Spongeposter here, that's some other Anon assblasted about something, but I can't quite tell what.

>>146775142
>fell for a blatantly obvious troll

By noticing that the image was edited?

>>146774694
Well, they'd have to be a secretive, ancient, genetically exclusive order of insular people.

Sheikhas
>>146775257
Yes.

>>146775141
T. Gerudo

>>146775210
Oh, and I also saw that it's established in the Hyrule Historia that Link disappears in the Adult Timeline. But with the paragraph I just quoted that pretty much means fuck all, doesn't it?

>>146775141
They kidnap, steal and rape. They are either Muslims or Mexicans.

>>146775286
That, or Gorons, with their system of elders, and happy merchant ways.

>>146775337
>it's established in the Hyrule Historia that Link disappears in the Adult Timeline.
That's just common sense since Zelda sends link back in time and causes there to be no hero for when ganon comes back and then flood

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>>146775210
That's what I said, yes.

>>146775550
You weren't here when we were discussing all that an hour or two, I see.

>>146775561
Yes, I thought you'd like to know you were right, middle post guy.

>>146773578
I had a conversation with a friend tha made me realize that my idea is good but the Mimic mask is going far too far.
Thoughts?

>>146775141
>>146775414
Oh yeah, I just remembered that they also blow themselves up in OOT. Definitely Muslims.

>>146775449
>Buy something from me, brother! Buy something!
God, their entrepreneurship was so fucking annoying. I reckon that was the point.

Malo best merchant.

>>146775867
I'm not sure I understand the point of it. The leg up over Majora's Mask is that you can use the power of two different masks at once, why would you weaken yourself by making it two of the same mask?

>>146775286
How is catching someone's trick the same as falling for it? Is this just more bait Anon?

>>146775470
If that was me then why would I go out of my way to point out a mistake in the editor's pic?

>>146775941
Plenty of other fictional societies seppuku-by-explosion. Garo Masters from MM do-it too.
The whole "they're Muslims just the gender roles reversed" thing falls flat on it's face after you remember the whole way that a man is born only every hundred years bit. And said man is thrust into the leading role in"that society, with presumably the women keeping their lead roles beneath him.

>>146776363
Nice damage control spongebob

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>>146776464
So this is just more bait.

Magical.

>>146776592
Yes, everything you don't like is bait.

So how much magic do you think there will be?
I need muh magic.

>>146776363
No fucking clue. I'm confused at this point. All I know is that >>146772632 is me and that all the other 9380 images should not have (You)s next to them. But they do. Someones having a laugh

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>>146776643
>Not even reading my posts
>Still responding in an antagonizing manner

Yup, that's bait.

>>146776734
Honestly I think some dude (probably >>146773726) is just screwing around.

I also don't really know what's going on anymore.

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>>146776734
This is a next level ruse.

>>146776252
The thinking is that the two masks combined is stronger (Goron wielding what ever Goron mask does to the sword instead of Link)
But then I get to thinking that Mimic not only has exponentially more work that needs to be done to program it in but also the Transformation forms shouldn't be able to access the sword in the first place. So I think I'll trash it.

By "Thoughts?" I was wondering if you had an alternative idea for the "mid game occurrence that functions as the sword upgrade"
I didn't like Gilded Sword and Master Sword is out so.....

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Oh neat, a Zelda General.

Just gonna leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIGhgVw2Mwo

>Tfw she hasn't uploaded anything in 3 years.

>>146776982
>>146777154
Honestly even I would think I'm damage controlling at this point. I'm just dropping it

>>146777342
A face shield. So you can have 3 masks. No, not really.

.....Why isn't it a Face Shield? There's a literal Face Shield in Majora's Mask.
And I'd say don't limit yourself to a mask as the midgame upgrade. Or better yet, start him out with a cumbersome yet very powerful mask then at the midgame _____ happens and the mask fuses into him. It's similar to the midpoint in Twilight Princess, only turned on its head because what's fused into you makes you stronger, not the removal of it to be equipped at will.

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>>146774694
Sheikah and the Royal Family, obviously.

Now, who are the blacks and Asians of Hyrule?

>>146777850
Gorons and Zoras, respectively.
Just makes sense.

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>>146777154

>>146777708
Yep. Midna turning Link's wolf-ness into that black and orange thing is a good concept to branch off of.

>Why not Face sheild
Simple: Face sword means the Bunny Hood on the sword and that means.... you get it. Related to that: I'd have as little mask make a return from MM as possible. I'm thinking Bunny Hood, Maskof Truth, and Stone Mask plus maybe 1-2 others

>>146777507
Maybe she grew up?

>>146777507
She grew up and out of it, anon.

It'll happen to all of us eventually.

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So, is Wind Waker HD worth it if I already have the original? I know it adds a few items or something and shortens the triforce quest extensively but still...

I'm on the fence about this, but i'm leaning towards I basically already own it so there's no point in buying the new on since it's almost exactly the same game just with some bloom.

>>146777507
>adding lyrics to songs that have no lyrics

Please stop.

>>146778837
>Implying that's bad.

Okay maybe the song of time isn't that good for such a thing but she's gotten some pretty good results especially with songs like the nocturne of shadow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgBPiNFkLRA

>>146778806
It was only worth to get the U WW bundle. Definitely not worth it stand-alone

>>146778806
The gameplay additions are great, though.

>Can turn and swing at the same time (on ropes)
>Several animations shortened
>Addition of swift sail to speed up sailing + increase maneuverability
>Pictobox can take in 12 images now.
>Nifty online features
>Triforce quest made bearable
>Hero mode

>>146778806
If you already have the original, no, definitely not.
I'd recommend it only to those that never played WW yet. Or to very loyal WW fans.

>>146778987
Yes it's bad, and cringy.

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>>146779119
>The online bottles.

>People were fucking spreading around Game of Thrones spoilers in bottles.

>>146779282
Like the ending of Fallout 4 where the villain is your son and you either have to kill him or nuke Boston.

>>146779465
God I hated that, nearly as bad as when they said Han Solo dies when his son kills him.

>>146779018
bait

>>146779691
That can't be worse than Sephiroth killing Aerith.

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>Legend of Zelda: BotW.
>Final dungeon is castle town after 100 years of ganon's rule.

>It's spooky on par with OOT's market.

>You have to fight the ReDeadified hylians that once lived there but now serve ganon's will in their undead state.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viKo_mAqsLE

>>146779783
Or those faggots going on about Vader being Luke's father.

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>>146779860
Don't forget Leia being Luke's sister, I mean come the fuck on!

Total bullshit.

>>146779282
>>146779465
>>146779691
>>146779783
>>146779860
>>146779985
Sheik is Zelda.

>>146780169
Fuck you.

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>>146780169
DELETE THIS
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>>146780169
Tetra is also Zelda.
And your boat is the King of Hyrule.

>>146780169
Not possibile. Sheik is MALE.

>>146779837
>OoT via RE2
I can diggit.

>>146780169
I accidentally ruined that for a friend who was interested in getting into Zelda. Let it slip while playing Smash.

Whoops.

>>146777850
happy mask salesman is a chink

>>146779837
>Rhapsody of Fire link on the post

10/10

>>146779837
>there are people in this thread right now who will look at this screenshot and say that OoT still holds up

>>146780449
Can you translate the comic, please?

>>146778806
ww original is superior

So lozg, how do you feel about Wolf Link being the only companion available in BotW?

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/the_legend_of_zelda_breath_of_the_wild/b/wii_u/archive/2016/06/24/eiji-aonouma-on-zeldas-new-look-and-why-nintendo-wasnt-inspired-by-skyrim.aspx

>>146780496
Spoilers aren't a real thing anyway. If you're playing for the plot, you're playing wrong.

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>>146780575
>There are muh graphix fags who suck massive cock in this thread.

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>>146780598
No, I can't. I also have a shitton more that I cannot translate. But I'm pretty sure what the punchline of this one is.

>>146780712
At least quote the thing.

>You showed off the amiibo functionality with the wolf link which was really cool, but are there other companions in the game that people might come across that maybe are non-amiibo related?

>As Bill kind of jokingly mentioned earlier, you know when you have characters like maybe Navi, you get someone telling you go this way or go that way, and we're creating a game that's so heavily focused on freedom if we have someone like that we're going back to what we had started with a set path or a set route to clear the game. Whereas Wolf Link, he's kind of in an animal state, he doesn't talk first of all and he kind of moves on instinct, he'll go attack an enemy or go hunt something. So he's a very reliable partner, or companion, and even though he can't talk you have this connection, maybe like a pet you have, this connection we thought was just right and so we don't have any plans to have any another companion in Breath of the Wild.

>>146780747
Would you defend BotW using low quality gif environments for it's towns?

>>146780575
Graphically, probably not. But it's still a great game and it doesn't look half as bad when it's in motion.
Shop around for better bait.

>>146780721
I agree, brother.
It was a cool surprise, though.

>>146780939
>Playing for graphix.

>Ever

I can understand story sometimes but come the fuck on.

If it plays and the graphics are like ultra bright white AKA irritating to the eyes or something I don't see the problem.

>>146781052
meant to say IF IT PLAYS WELL

And the graphix DON'T RAPE YOUR EYESOCKETS

there shouldn't be a problem unless you're autistic.

And, no just because you don't like them doesn't mean they rape your eyesockets.

>>146781181
>you aren't allowed to call out Ocarina's FF7-tier town visuals unless you're autistic
wew lad

>>146781181
wwhd raped my eyesockets desu

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>>146781259
>A game from the N64 made years ago doesn't hold up to modern graphix standards.

Gee, who would've fucking guessed.

>>146780575
Graphically and technically-speaking, no.

But in most other aspects? Yes?
Hell, none of the Zelda games released over 5-8 years ago hold up. Not even Wind Waker holds up despite so many fab claims, there are plenty of modern cel-shaded games that outshine it to this day.

I think we are being officially raided by /v/ shitposters.
Avoid to answer to obvious bait, bros.

>>146780712
Makes me wonder what the other Anubis will do.

I seriously hope that purchasing the BoTW Link amiibo isn't the only way to get that sweet hood seen in the E32014 and VGA footage.

>>146781651
*amiibos

God fucking damnit I hate auto correct on phones.

>>146781453
bait

;^)

>>146781774
>phone

>>146781421
>a game capable of 3D graphics opted to use a gif instead
>thinking I'm shitting on it because it's not a 4k environment with dynamic lighting and maximum anti-aliasing

>>146781918
>anti-aliasing
>not just running the game at internal resolution 16K and downsampling from there

Ayy

>>146781510
This is what happens when the comfy Zelda /v threads stop.

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Bros i just beat cave of shadows, but it wouldn't save my amiibo why?

>>146782220
You probably fucked up the save process?

>>146782220
I'll exchange help for source of your pic

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>>146782315
it never gave me an option to save
>>146782384
source is in the image bro

>>146782065
This is what happens when an idiot shills his shitty /v/ cancer here.

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>>146782220
>>146782493
>This is official manga artwork

is fs anniversary gonna get rereleased for zeldas 30th or what

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>>146782615
yes

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>>146782798
I didn't plan on buying this, but that has changed.

in my replayathon should i do them in original release order or adjust remakes to their new release date (eg counting wind waker as "2013" instead of 2003

>>146782934
Do original order. Its not like its a new game. Just a bit closer to what the original games should of been.

>>146782798
Why couldn't she look like that in the HD remake?

Come the fuck on

>>146773913
where is the full video for this?

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now i still need that amiibo problem solved
>>146783102
I've been thinking of storytiming this when my manga gets in, i just can't translate any of it

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>>146783189
?

>>146783251
Maybe the next time you'll enter the cave, you'll be able to save what you did. Usually, it lets you save only when you die.

>You will never play through the events of OOT from Zelda's perspective.