/tesog/ - The Elder Scrolls Online General

>watching vid of a high champ point rank templar
>runs into groups of 8 and kills them all effortlessly
>meanwhile, in the same spot, on a 11 DK
>can't even take 3

So the game has no balance then?

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>log in
>camera view is this

>>146676597
>I'm shit
>game must have no balance

>>146676597
> Bitching about only be able to take out two people when playing yourself against several others.
wew lad
It's like the post I saw on the official forums some days ago about nightblades bitching about how long time it took to kill sorcerers.

>>146676667
>if you're good then you can do anything
good meme

>>146676597
You just have to run into enough groups of 8 until you run into a group of 8 retards who let you get away with everything.

>>146674752
Because I find DC the most interesting Other than their first 2 zones.

>>146676463
Such an old map. I really hope ZOS fixes that Skyrim/Morrowind border. I could try to make a new map with the same design in mind.

>play the game in beta like 2 years ago
>finally get around to buying it for $12 today
>cant log in, reset my password
>successfully change my password
>still cant log in, getting "Incorrect UserID or password. Please try again."
>15 minutes later, still getting same error message
>have to log in before you can access the support pages

its like they literally don't want me to play their shit game. maybe they are trying to send me a message.

>>146678724
Maybe you're just retarded for forgetting a password hmmmmmmmmmmm?

>>146678724
>have to log in before you can access the support pages
that has happened to me as well, oh and I didn't have access to the forums either.
Use the "account compromised" option, it's literally your only way of getting support, and even there, you may end up getting a message like this:

Greetings,

We apologize that we have taken so long to get back to you in regards to your issue. Due to high ticket volumes, we will be unable to assist you further with this ticket. We understand this may be frustrating and we are disappointed that we are unable to deliver a Customer Service experience that is up to our desired standards. Below is all the troubleshooting we have available at this time.

>>146679097
Given that I had a similar issue, chances are it's ZOS' fault

this game is pretty shit, I regret resubbing a few days ago

still just a boring grindfest

>>146676931
>if you can't do something that someone else can, it's not your fault

even better meme

>>146676463
>>146675903
alts can wear it but I am pretty sure it only works when the two characters are together.

>>146679587
> Grindfest
How?

>>146680180
but you marry characters or accounts?

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>>146680408
You marry the player

>>146680247
after you've done the quests once they're a grind and a chore the second time

pvp is a grind because its always the same, it's a glorified battleground not true open world pvp where the situations are always new

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>>146680827
>pvp is a grind because its always the same, it's a glorified battleground not true open world pvp where the situations are always new

>>146680827
dude what
so you're bothered that you're replaying content you yourself chose to replay. And that PvP uses the same map.

There's a lot of shitty thing in ESO but this is just nonsense, I don't see why you'd enjoy any videogame if you don't mind those things.

>>146681328
there are more and more MMOs with a focus on open world PvP and sandbox elements

TESO is a themepark with the tawdry trappings of a sandbox

I have to replay this content because I went nightblade when I need to be templar if I wanted to have the cookie cutter build


>>146681097
epic reaction image /b/ro!!!

>>146681842
are you autistic or retarded?

>>146682038
autarded?

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>>146682038
>if you criticize my perfect MMO you're autistic

>>146662492
> It would be slightly more interesting if Haj Mota gave major ward/resolve to your whole group.
I like the idea. It would also open up the amount of people who would be able to take advantage since it benefits the group as a whole, something I imagine would be a great first pickup for someone who just completed their first monster set, no matter if they're tank, healer or dps.

>>146682314
there is plenty to criticise, but your reasoning is idiotic

also, the fact that you're even here if you hate it so much is why I asked if you're autistic

>>146681842
>I have to replay this content because I went nightblade when I need to be templar if I wanted to have the cookie cutter build

Unless you're an endgame healer, every class can do almost everything, Nightblade especially. Anyone who talks about cookie cutter builds in this game is retarded, the only thing you ever -need- is a temp for healing trials, because there is no substitute for Practiced Incantation.

>>146682604
I just wanted to announce my leaving so someone like you would sperg out at the prospect of their general having 1 less person to prevent it from dying

>>146682314
there's some blind fanboys here

>>146682715
I hope you feel well, anon

>>146681842

> I have to replay this content because I went nightblade when I need to be templar if I wanted to have the cookie cutter build
No, you could have picked another faction to play.

so how is this game for a PVP only player? that RvRvR thing working?

>>146683326
>RvRvR thing working

what RvRvR thing?

But PvP is doing good. But it's pretty much a must to be in a dedicated PvP guild for coordination. Going at it solo can be difficult.

>>146676597
what, are you talking a 11 level DK? PvP or PvE?
t. not understander

>>146683587
isnt it 3 teams fighting each other?

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I'm not saying ESO is shit, it's the best themepark on the market right now. It's got just enough innovation to attract people and just enough grind/treadmill style gameplay to ensure the investors who gave this game a huge budget for CGI trailers etc were forthcoming with the funds.

Quests were fun the first time 2 years ago, but they're extremely repetitive. Changing zones is just changing the color palette and aesthetics. After you begin to view the pre-endgame PvE as a boring grind and the endgame as just another treadmill for gear and other unlocks all you have is PvP.

PvP fails for the same reason GW2's pvp fails. They know people want massive open world PvP fights, but instead of integrating PvP properly into their game world they just consign it to a single zone or area. They create a painfully symmetrical map for it and have the bulk of it revolving around castle siege and defense. Problem is players don't design these castles at all, can't contribute to their defenses, all players can do is garrison them and build siege weapons.

It's all so tiresome because there are so few sandbox elements. I can think of 10 MMOs with better PvE and PvP. ESO has succeeded only in being the jack of all trades wrapped up in a fashionable and profitable IP.

There's a reason these generals only live for a week or two before dying again

>>146683673
yes it is, I didn't recall what RvRvR stood for

>>146684085
good job repeating the same shit that's been said in these generals countless times

>>146684346
good job with the reflexively butthurt response

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>>146683326
It's a constant 3-way war between the factions on the Cyrodiil mainland. You can in theory join the Alliance war at level 10 and not leave even thou you probably will since there's a lot of non-pvp quests that gives you skill points, points you use to learn new skills.

The battles varies. Sometimes there's something like 40 vs 40 people all battling it out over a single bridge, until the 3rd faction sets up siege weapons and gank squads to fuck over both factions at the same time. Sometimes you're doing quests in the PvP area or look for skyshards (3 of these grants you a skillpoint) that sends you to a cave, and you'll hear another player in front of you. You crouch, trying to avoid getting spotted, and see an enemy player trying to take down a boss. You patiently wait until they're both at fairly low health, then you drink a potion that boosts your damage and make short work of both of them,

But that's when it's at its best. Sometimes you just spend 30 mins dying, travelling from your respawn, only to die again because xxXDUNM3R-DKXxx killed you halfway to the battle.

>>146684085
>I can think of 10 MMOs with better PvE and PvP

I'm interested

>>146684815
>better PvE
Dungeons and Dragons Online
Wildstar
Vanilla WoW private servers

>better PvP
Darkfall
Dark Age of Camelot
Planetside 2
TERA
ArcheAge
Black Desert Online
EVE

>>146684793
don't forget to mention that 90% of the time you'll be fighting in the same exact spots with no variation

>>146685462
> don't forget to mention that 90% of the time you'll be fighting in the same exact spots with no variation
Sure, if all your PvP experience consist of logging in for 2 straight and never touch it again.

>>146685921
Every time you log off, the following day all your castle gains will have been retaken unless you play on a dead campaign.

90% of the time you're fighting for the same 6 or 7 forts. Zergs never really do anything other than fight along the direct route to and from these forts, or at the forts themselves.

Cyrodill is huge yet for 80% of the land, other players are a rarity, and you'll only find people looking for lorebooks, grind spots or shards.

>All these stupid nignogs liking something I don't
>Better go to their general to tell them how fucking RETARDED they are
>Fucking fangays disagreeing with me, I bet they're just shills

This thread right now is pretty top quality stuff.

Good job my lad.

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>>146686837
>p-please don't criticize my perfect MMO

>>146687020
you realize you're just proving his point?

>>146686837
Did you know you can play and enjoy a game and be able to critize it?

>>146686249
This is bullshit. Get a few people and start a siege at a remote locations and enemies will pour in trying to stop you. If you have spent 90% of your PvP time attacking the same 6 or 7 forts you've join a zerg that's hell-bent on making sure their leader get crowned emperor and thus only focusing on 1/3 of the keeps then you only yourself to blame. Zergs focusing on getting the Elder Scrolls will focus on the other 2/3 of the keeps, join them instead. Or start a small group. Or wait until August when they've added the IC-style PvP to cities.

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Hey guys, I enjoy ESO.

>>146688023
Me too

Anyone have a Reshade preset to recommend?

i want to make a 2h warrior type guy in heavy armor. am i limited only to tanking or is it possible to dps?

>>146688536
it's possible to do whatever, but you won't be competitive in veteran endgame

2h is for dps, heavy armor is for tank

you can see how that combo isn't really optimal

>>146689001
so what would be optimal? 2h and medium armor? i've never played before and i'm trying to figure out what's up while it's installing.

>>146688023
I do, however the PvE content is poorly balanced, so are the classes, and I suspect that both the devs and their costumer support is severely understaffed. If it wasn't because the dungeons being fun, the dynamics and excellent controller support when you've the right addons I would probably look at other mmo's.

>>146688536
It's possible but not optimal. I would say it's very doable to do end-game dungeons with it but you're forced to work harder than someone with 2h and medium armour for the same result. 2h and medium armour will turn you into a dps beast, no matter what class you pick.

>>146689152
2h and medium would work

basically it goes like this

light armor - magicka build
medium armor - stamina build
heavy armor - health build (tank)

of course, that doesn't mean that all of your gear needs to be one type. depending on how you build, it could end up as a mix of all

>>146689541
good to know, thanks.

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>queue for a dungeon with randoms
>say hello
>nobody answers
>sweep through dungeon without a challenge
>say thank you
>nobody answers

do i exist anymore? am i playing with other human beings? was it always like this?

>transcription errors

Gaem is, was, and will be shit

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>>146691780
I like ice cream.

>tfw fighting against your own alliance because you wanted to play a stam dk
>that awkard moment when you kill someone on your friends list
FORGIVE ME MOTHERLAND

if I have an active 60 day eso+, can I add another one while the old one still hasn't expired?

I want a wolf mount, but don't want to buy crowns seperately

>>146691893
Couldn't agree more, and I'm sure you agree with me when I say that Morrowind is shit for pulling the same and even worse stuff.

>have ESO+
>don't care about costumes or mounts
What do I spend these crowns on?

>85 gig download

god damn it i just want to play

>>146694614
I'm saving them for the day when I for one reason or another won't be subscribing so I can buy the DLC's I want.

>>146694614
give it to me nigger

Best part about the last episode pf ESO live was probably jewelry-crafting and battlegrounds being worked on.

Anyone else make an alt for each different profession's material storage?

Stamplar or magplar?

>>146697073
No we just use craft bags. I swear it's the only reason to sub for this game, it changes everything.

>>146698498
Oh man. That sounds super useful. Do you get to keep them after sub ends?

>>146699842
I think you can still access the bag but you can't put anything in to it if you don't have plus.

>>146699842
Sort of. You keep em, but you can only take stuff out of em, not in em.

>>146700620
>em

>>146698226
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>>146698226
>>146698226
>>146698226
>>146698226
I know you know the answer

>>146691780
chat might be hidden for them anon

if i pug a dungeon the only thing i will say is tyfg.

>>146678724
Ask for forgot account name - it might not be what you think it is.

>>146698226
stamplars only use 2 class skills
the best have only pulled 30-35k

magplars can hit 40k with the right buffs
and use mostly class skills

poke sticks are fun either stam or mag though

>>146684085
>It's got just enough innovation...

wew lad.

I cannot think of anything innovative they have that other games don't do better.

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> Patchnotes for update 11 will be released next week
> Racial passives are getting changed
> Probably a lot of other stuff as well considering it's 20 pages long if ESO live is to believed

>>146706540
>Racial passives are getting changed
*removed, as they're selling race changes now

>>146705006
but from PvP perspective?
desu I'm tempted to roll an Altmer Magplar

>>146708315
You're full of shit. they said it on ESO live they would change the racial passives, not remove them.

>>146710071
Remove any meaningful passive, stupid fuck

>>146710316
>remove meaningful passives, making race an issue simply of cosmetics
Yeah, that'll sell more race changes than having some races be better at magicka, stam or health builds.

>>146706540
Can't wait for more argonians buffs. Would be really cool if they introduced racial morphs so you could customize your chars even further.

>>146713164
Argonian racials are the fucking worst.

>resto staff
>potions

Just like they've always been portrayed in lore, amirite?

>>146713325
>argonian nb tank
>30 second warhorns and every trash pot is a tripot

worst race

Is there any reason to hold off on doing any of the DLC until level cap? Like, are there unique items that will scale down that would otherwise be really strong at cap and viable end game?

>>146714574
Not really. Do whatever you feel like doing.

>>146706540
the only thing I fear is if they make the wrong racials changes, fuckkk

>>146710316
Nice source faggot.

>>146691780
I do that sometimes because I'm a misanthrope and it's faster to just run through dungeons I've done fifty times.

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>The Fading Tree
This is the dumbest quest.
Why are all these quests in greenshade basically "Wood elves are really really fucking dumb"

>>146706540
I just want my gotta go fast orc to stay the same

>>146684085
I've tried literally every pvp mmo on the market right now and always come back to ESO.

Just wasted a solid 3 months of playing Black Desert Online thinking that Sieges would be good.

I've never been so let down - holy fuck. Laggier than ESO ever was and it's just a huge clusterfuck of people trying to kill 1 poorly defended objective that dies in 15 min. The worst part is that this kind of pvp only happens 2 or 3 times a week depending on what objectives your guild wants or has.

I made a long post here about how I was burned out of ESO but now I'm just playing the DLC casually and pvping once in a while and what a fucking relief to play a game that's actually had some effort put into the design.

>>146715573
because wood elves are really really fucking dumb

>>146714574
The only ones I can think of would be to wait with the white-gold tower and imperial city prison since they provide a necklace that's part of the Willpower set and a shield that's part of the Endurance set.

But those aren't really *that* hard to get, I think both pieces goes for something like 5k on the market.

So do whatever you feel like.

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>>146715720
Apparently

>feed your character back into stage 1
>forgot how he can look not like a freak

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>>146715573
>Why are all these quests in greenshade basically "Wood elves are really really fucking dumb"

I'm imagining that the bright ones stayed on Falinesti and are nowhere to be seen since the Khajit god of theft whose name I've forgotten stole the city.

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>>146676463
Why is this untextured?

>>146715886

What mod is this? I'm on ultra looks nothing like this.

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>>146717028
I'm just using normal ultra high settings

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>>146716924

>>146716924
Running out of vram, I had this happen to potatoes.
That said, wrong thread

>>146676463
WHAT THE FUCK.

I did restore integrity on Steam and it got rid of fucking Dawnguard.

>>146719369
This is an ESO thread, not a TES thread

I've read that cp increase is coming with patch 11. Don't know if they mean mats or increasing the cap.

>>146721867
Increasing the cap.

>>146721867
Increasing the cap. The German community leader dude said in a thread that the increase will be really small however.

>>146722250
it's better than nothing

Hey guys, what UI mods do you use? I'm new to MMOs so I'm not sure what's 'standard'.

So, I love MMO's. I love leveling, crafting, magic, swords, dragons, professions, questing, all of that. Elder Scrolls fits the bill.

I completely forgot about this game. I was excited when it first released, but then I read it was $15/mo so I completely ignored it.
Now I just saw my friend on Steam playing it and I remembered that there is no longer a sub fee. And it's also on sale for $20.


As a person who dropped 1000+ hours on WoW's PvE, how comparable is this game to WoW? (One thing's for sure, I can probably guarantee it beats WoW in the "Graphics" category. WoW graphics are crap.) How is the PvE? Is there World PvP? Is the economy healthy? Is there a solid population? Is finding a group to run dungeons with prompt? How's the endgame? I don't have the same amount of free time today as I did when I played WoW, so I'm not looking to drop once again 1000+ hours on an MMO (or maybe I am), so I'd be content with a few hundred hour's worth.

Also, first post reads:
>Don't get it on steam, the launcher has issues, check this very post for better deals Edition.
So if purchase it through dlgamer.us, I avoid Steam completely, right? I just launch it via, say, the .exe on my desktop or Games folder?

Thanks anons in advance for any insight/advice/tips.

Whats the best build for annoying people in PvP?

I don't want to kill them necessarily. I just want to annoy them for as long as possible. A build that's hard to kill.

>>146724919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z0HY1hObzE

Have fun.

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>>146723845
I'm okay with vanilla myself, but i've seen a UI people use that makes the HP/Stam/Magi bars look more like morrowind.

Actually would be coold if Bethesda released a few 'official' UI mods for TESO that harkened to Oblivion, Morrowind, and Daggerfall.

>>146725112
Thanks

>tfw you wanna buy a wolf or lion mount and some costumes but know you should spend crowns on DLC instead

>>146726170

>tfw kinda want the lynx because it looks cool but I'll probably never bring it out because it's useless

>>146726596
This is like the only fucking game I know where people actually have cosmetic pets out, it fucking annoys me to no end to see 500 in Mounhold and shit.

>Fighters Guild storyline ending
Wow, the fucking scat cat who curses by Molag Bal's name turns out to be a cultist of Molag Bal.

>That one quest where the khajiit spy turns into the queen and decides to look at themselves naked

>install HarvestMap
>time to go farming.jpg
>half the nodes don't exist, probably either someone else got them or outdated
>every 5 seconds stopped by a swarm of wasps, imps, spriggans or scorpions
>contrary to what the tooltip says they won't lose interest when you pass them fast enough on horse
>they only fucking turn and go back when hit
y-yeah at least I got 50 ore, that would be 5 xr efine...

>>146727428
You think Raz wants to tap Ayrenn's ass? Think I ayrenn wants to the barbs but can't because she's a proper, prissy, altmer? Think they HAVE done it at least once?

>>146728461
>old buddies
>Raz basically cat James Bond
>Ayrenn kind of comes off as a desperate slut

Totally at least once

>>146728461
>Ayrenn
>Altmer

>>146728594
Fine, robot, altmer, whatever

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>>146729060
>Robot
Fucking synths!

>tfw once I get my main crafter to unlock his dwemer motif, I am so making the Tamrielic BoS and we will purge Tamriel.

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This whole quest was pretty cool

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>>146676463
So... Who thinks it would be a nice if we could actually "disable" town guards? Not kill them, but send them into sort of a temporary downed state maybe that lasts for like, 20 seconds or so?

Or would this only end with an entire guild dedicated to making sure each guard in every town is basically ganked and helpless?

How important is choosing the 'correct' race for a particular build? For example, I'd like to roll a templar heal but I like having some curves to look at while I grind. How retarded is it to go Breton for that?

>>146732509
Templar healers use Magicka, Breton is a top two choice for that m8.

>>146732587
Sweet, thanks. Guide suggested Dunmer which I'm not looking at for 40 hours.

>>146732853
Tbh unless you're going for a full on autistic guild of endgame perfectionists any race can do any build, you'll just fall 5% behind the guys who care about that stuff.

>>146732509
Breton is perfect for templar heal

But you can be plenty good as a race that isn't 'correct', even if a passive doesn't directly align with the traditional role you want, you should be able to tweak how you play to make use of it.

Do you guys use Soul Summons?

>>146733850
I have like 1000+ grand soul gems and every outing yields a net gain... seems like a waste of a skill point, not that I'm lacking those either

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>trying to make a hard-assed, scarred looking Altmer dude
>End up with Vin Diesel

Huh...

Is the endless crafting bag ever going to get a one time purchase option? I'd buy it in a heartbeat but I'm not paying monthly for it.

>>146736342
>biggest incentive for subbing
>ever for one-time purchase
Unless they price it at 10,000 crowns you won't ever be seeing it m8.

Respecs still 100g per point? Sound spendy as fuck.

What site do I go to for up to date builds?

>>146738628
Same rate your mother charges but we all find a way.

>>146723845
I started recently so I don't know much but I think AUI and Azhura are quite good. The second one only to get quest tracker from behind minimap.

>>146738683
Tamriel foundry

>>146731627
I'd make it so that you make yourself invisible to that guard, and it only works on one guy at a time, so you don't have people perma disabling guards.

>>146738628
Was nice when they released db and lowered it to 1g per skill point for a week. That's likely how it's going to be for balance patches in the future.

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>Get the game on Steam
>Refund because eh
>Can still play just fine
>Refund given 3 days ago

>>146743324
Keep us updated mate.

>>146742859
There's already something similar, you can get disguises that will make the guards ignore you for a while.

>>146724803
Then you'd like this game. I mean I liked all the things you had questions about but they're only opinions. Combats good with dodge rolling and animations canceling. Dungeon finder is broke right now, they shouldn't have changed it for db. Endgame is fine, I think it's easy but that's cause it took me a while to get maxed char.

Yes regarding dlgamer. Or just get it on steam but don't verify integrity or launch it from steam, use game launcher.

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>Tfw finally got enchanting to 50

Eshays adlays, this shit took forever

>>146746525
New guy here. Is it worth it to use up skill points on hirelings for 1-2 main crafting skills?

>>146746735
They give you yellow quality materials, so yes it's worth.

>>146746735
Sure, there's plenty of skyshards and skill points to get so you can use them on hirelings. Just make sure when you're starting out to have enough skill points to level your actual skills.

>>146746861
>>146746917

Thanks, and how many crafting skilltrees you can reasonably focus on?

>run vma 30+ times on magdk
>465k highest score
>run it for the first time on magnb
>489k

JUST

>>146747265
Tbh you should get all of them to 50.

Blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking and enchanting will help you make end game gear.

Provisioning and alchemy makes their effects last longer, with alchemy taking high priority since you should be using pots on cooldown.

But what I did was make an alt to craft gear, so I leveled blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking and enchanting. And then on all my other characters get their provisioning and alchemy to 50.

>>146747265
Keep research and motifs focused on one character, that's my advice.

>servers down
WHAT DO I DO JESUS FUCK THIS GAME HAS CONSUMED MY LIFE

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> Finally getting a group for veteran banished cells
> "Server will shut down in 15 minutes"
Close one desu

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>buy it on steam
>downloads 50 fucking GB
>start launcher
>IT REDOWNLOADS EVERYTHING

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>146748215
>buying anything through Steam
>let alone an MMO
You deserve it desu senpai.

Guys help me.

I love this fucking game. Ive been playing for 3 days now. Sorcerer is so fun

>>146748215
You didn't read the bit about not buying it on steam?

Just don't boot it up from steam, only use game launcher.

>>146717028
Specular maps (I think) only get activated if you start tweaking from high or ultra presets, they're not a toggable setting (although they are in the .ini).

How long do these things usually take

>>146748923
very long or very little, depending on the thing

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>>146693367

>>146749043
I guess ill just go polish the banana then. Hopefully its up by the time i finish in 5 minutes

>>146749116
>>146693367
Fuck I saw your question yesterday and wondered the same, bump for you

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>>146748923
it's going to be at least 5 hours as usual, I fucking promise you.

just got back from work and can't even get my dose of escapism

>>146749116
>>146749257

desu I'm not sure bit it should be possible. If you dare, try contacting their support.

>>146748562
Wait until you reach endgame and other classing starts outperforming you. But as long as you have fun that's all that's important.

Are they ever going to fix party finder//

>>146746525

I have 4 enchanters at 50, did it without writs too, yeah it's a long slog.

>>146749472
>this maintenance is supposed to fix it
>it won't fix it

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While you're waiting, get comfy with this podcast I found out of nowhere. It's a 30 min interview where Lawrence Schick, the Loremaster, roleplay as a scholar getting summoned to Oblivion to answer lorequestion from curious daedras.

http://www.op-cast.com/eso-rp/loremasters-episode-of-eso-rp-zos-interview

Apperently eso-rp or w/e they're called will be doing something similar in the future.

>>146749449
Well i dont know much about the game at all at this point, so by the time the endgame comes around ill definitely have played through many more fun characters. I just like the idea of Sorcerer summoning pets to solo mkre difficult encounters. Or so ive read

>>146749614
> I just like the idea of Sorcerer summoning pets to solo mkre difficult encounters. Or so ive read
As a sorc I can confirm that this is correct.

>>146747265

put all your equipment crafting on one character, to save on research and motifs. However it may be worth it to get to 50 on all the equipment crafts and enchanting on every character to put the points in tiers and then hirelings, so you get some tier 10 mats and maybe yellow temper items in the mail per character. One character can have all the main points in each equipment craft though (doesn't need keen eye or the research passive (once research is done anyway) and do all your processing and breaking down (once you no longer need to level crafts on anyone anyway) and crafting/upgrading though.

Enchanting can be on a different character unless you want mats in the mail and have the points

Alchemy and Provisioning should be maxed on all characters to get maximum medicinal use and gourmet but you can refund all the points in those lines otherwise once you get maxed. It might be worth putting points into the alchemy reagent keen eye, they can be hard to see otherwise. Learn all your blue and purple provisioning recipes on one character that is your main cook though.

So is this game actually any good? I enjoyed Skyrim and Oblivion, and recently have been playing the Witcher series which I am really enjoying too.

Is this worth a punt? Never played an MMO, but from what I hear you can ignore all of that and play it as a single player game, is that right?

>>146749701
Great. Awesome. Fun. I can't wait. Do you have any tips or strategies? I am currently level 12 using Destruction staff Reach/Elemental Barrier + Dark Crystal and the immobilize dark magic ability. I summon pets occasionally put i try not to rely on them too much so i can get comfortable with the other abilities.

Are there must haves in the Destruction staff line? Or any must haves for Sorcerers in general?

>>146749883
Are there any BoP recipes or whatever?

What class tanks the best?

>>146750225

Not that I know of.

>>146691780
I used to make an effort to say hi in every group in any MMO i've ever played. I've long since stopped caring, you're lucky to have more than 5 words typed between 4 party members in modern MMO group finder dungeons.

>>146750445
The MMO barrier to entry used to be owning a gaming PC, having fast enough internet and being able to afford a monthly subscription, but in these days of B2P and F2P games designed to run on consoles practically any kid can play them.

>>146750163
>from what I hear you can ignore all of that and play it as a single player game, is that right?

no, you can't ignore ALL of it. there will be other players doing the same quest as you, there will be content that's meant to be done in groups, there will be 5 hour long maintenances that won't let you fucking play when you want to play

it's an MMO first and foremost. If you don't like MMOs, you will not like ESO.

but yes, it's goodenough

>>146750201
Force Pulse, the third destro skill, is basically a stonger spam-skill than Reach and you kinda need it on sorc because Sorcs don't have their own spam-skill. Elemental Blockade is extremely good too and pretty much every magicka DD uses it.

So how does the Champion Point system work, do you just go straight into gaining pseudo-levels when you hit 50?

>>146751003
Yep.

>>146750235
Dragonknights. Block passive, chains to grad enemies, AoE root to keep mob groups together, multiple passives for resource management, Shield for you and your team, emergency "i am nigh unkillable"-ultimate.

>>146751286
Somebody here said that the Dark Brotherhood update made them account-wide not character specific, is that the case?

And are the points applied to your account or say if I earn 30 of them and then reach 50 on a second character will they have 30 points waiting to be spent?

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>>146751430
They're account wide and you can distribute them freely among your characters.
So say you have someone that is level 50 and have 30 champion points and you make a new character. This character have 30 champion points to spend the moment you exit character customization. However he will not be able to gain any champion points before he have reached level 50.

And say you play some on your new character but then go back and run some dungeons on the one old one, and end up with 35 champion points on him. If you now decide to stop doing dungeons and go back to your new character, you will have 5 more champion point to spend on it.

>>146751430
They were always account-wide. They just made it so your level scales based on the CP instead of vet-ranks. Once you hit level 50 on any char he scales to your accountwide CP. You can distribute the points on level 3 already to get the %benefits and stuff.

>>146751702
Oh shit nigga that's dope, I'm gonna finish leveling my first character before the altitis sets in and I make a ton of new ones.

>>146751778
Thanks m8, I'm confused as fuck as to what and what isn't new.

>buy ESO because sale and nothing else to play
>play it like a single player ES game
>it actually works fine and I'm enjoying myself
wew, who would have thought

>>146752335
>>146676463
>Don't get it on steam, the launcher has issues, check this very post for better deals Edition.

>>146748215
>buy it on steam
>downloads 53GB
>patcher downloads another 5GB or so
>everything works
???

lads i am new 10 level what should i do to get 50 FAST should i do quests or should i farm mobs??

>>146752726
Do quests at least the first time, they are really good. Second time onwards just do the main quests for free skill points and grind the rest because it's faster

>>146752797
There's a couple of free skill points in each zone from doing the questlines there too m8.

>>146752726
>get to 50 FAST
why do people rush to max level? Never found that appealing. I keep fooling around, being a nigger and stealing shit, got myself a mount at level 9, feels good.

>>146752914
Yeah I mean the alliance-main-quest and the prophet-main-quest. Just not the side stuff like "help daedra took my cow, please run through this ruin for 10% exp".

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>>146751702
>Paragon point system on an MMO
That sounds like newer players will never be able to catch up to older ones with tons of CP. It works for D3 because season resets give everyone the chance to start on equal ground.

>>146752428
I got it on steam, dled a lot before install, dled some more after install because applying patches. Everything works fine so far.
Should I still use the game launcher instead of running from steam? I'm afraid that if I do that THEN the problems might start showing up.

>>146753158
There's a maximum amount of allocatable points which is 501. You continue gaining points after that but you can't put them anywhere.

>>146753249
Neither, locate the 64 bits exe under the "live" folder and launch from there, unless you have to update the client (the game will tell you)

>>146753158
I've been told by guild people (not the /tesog/ guild I don't dank meme) that it takes roughly the same amount of time to get to 501 as it does to get to level 50.

I hope this is true I don't want to be gimped forever.

>>146753401
we don't meme :(

>>146753401
How long does it take to get to 50?

What faction is the EU guild on? Can they work cross faction?

>>146753495
DC. Yes, it only matters in alliance war.

>>146753485
I dunno I'm at like 45 and the fucking server's down so I can't check played time.

>>146753401
I'm pretty sure it takes way longer to reach max CP than max level.

>>146753401
>t it takes roughly the same amount of time to get to 501 as it does to get to level 50
Complete and utter bullshit.

>>146753158
I don't know how the Paragon point system works.
In ESO, there is a catchup mechanic whereas people of lower cp gain them faster, there's a cap on cp501, and if you like PvP there is a campaign with the bonuses you get from cp disabled.

>>146753401
>I've been told by guild people (not the /tesog/ guild I don't dank meme) that it takes roughly the same amount of time to get to 501 as it does to get to level 50.
You're getting meme'd on.

>>146753542
Is it active? I just happen to be on DC

>>146753682
We're growing, and you can join up to 5 guilds, anyway :)

How long is the server maintenance usually?

>>146754113
5 hours, but I don't know when it started

>>146754113
Patch notes are up so it should be finished soon. It's usually around 2 hours, much longer for a DLC-patch.

Patch notes:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/274956/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-4-9

>>146754113
Till they fix the group finder, hopefully.

Anyone wanna gimme a tanking 101 while the servers are down? I'm a lvl 10 DK, stamina build.

>>146754284
wait no, i fucked up time zones. Usually around 4h.

>>146754113
yay no fix to the group finder. or they've tried to fix it but won't post it in the patchnotes because they don't want people to notice if they fucked up again.

>>146754284
soooo, no party finder fix..

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>Playing solo for a bit
>Get to Daggerfall
>Quest a bit
>Find a relevant player guild
>Join them
>Dungeon a bit with one of the guys leveling an alt
>Groups up with other members who know WGT
>Get wrecked by first boss
>We dissipate
>Couple days later
>Random dungeon with a pug group goes to WGT
>We complete it
Not sure what to think of those guildies.

>>146753401
>(not the /tesog/ guild I don't dank meme)
TESOG guild is by far the least fucking autistic guild of 4chan I've ever been in. Everyone is relatively quiet except for the few that just talk about stuff like trading or just chatting. I haven't seen a single meme since I joined like over a week ago.

>>146754317
>I'm a lvl 10 DK, stamina build
Hey me too, wanna fuck? But on a serious note, what skills are you running with? I'm using:
>Puncture- Pierce Armor
>Dark Talons- Choking Talons
>Fiery Grip- Empowering Chains
>Spiked Armor- Volatile Armor
>Stonefirst(just using it to get EXP in Earthen Heart)

>>146754919
its probably a reddit guild

>>146755052
Or it's just not a bunch of spergs?

We're back nignogs.

>>146755031
Uh, I don't level with sword and shield, using 2 handers for that.
For dungeons I was gonna go with mana return chain pull, puncture w/ armor pierce, talons (not evolved yet), that weapon skill that reduces damage done by enemy and spiked armor that gives a shield.
For ult I have the dragon jump thingy.
I don't know any skill names sorry.
I haven't tanked anything yet, only got to 10 yesterday and the party finder is broken. Maybe I'll get a group today at some point.

>>146755189
I've done a couple of dungeons so far, not too bad. Just remember to keep Spiked Armor up as much as possible and taunt everything. Food is also a big help.

>>146755352
I've read somewhere that taunt is the puncture skill? Or is it something else? I've tanked in other MMOs and I can't find anything that resembles a taunt.

>>146755189
Use the Banner as ult (it has a morph that increases damage you deal by 25% and reduces damage you take by 25%), the magma armor, or warhorn from the alliance war lines. Dragon Jump is pretty shit outside of PvP or zone-PvE.
Other skills seem fine.

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>>146754317
Block incoming attacks. While blocking you're not regaining stamina so blocking while not getting stuns your ability to block when you really need it.

You have two taunts. One in one-arm and shield and one in the undaunted skill-line. Both last 15 secounds. Taunt the boss monster, and if there's 1 or 2 stronger mobs that's obviously not trash mobds, taunt them as well.

Before you do the dungeon let people know that it's your first time running the dungeon, another player will usually say it's ok and explain the mechanics before each boss. If you're having trouble with one boss and get wiped, don't hesitate to ask for 2 minutes and look up the specific boss and how to beat it on http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Dungeons

>>146755412
Puncture and an undaunted skill are the only taunts. They are both single targets. Just taunt fattys and CC the trashmobs.

>>146755412
Yep, puncture. There's no AoE taunt as far as I know. Kinda just have to run around and Pucture everything. But unlike most other MMOs it doesn't look like you have to have 100% of trash on you 100% of the time.

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>>146755435
>Look up how to beat it
Here's a tip.
Don't stand in the ohko aoe attacks.

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Server is online lads
Time to lag in PvP and bitch about dyes in the general chatt

>>146755657
And the group finder worked on top of that.

>>146755657
>bitch about dyes
Why? Feel like the dye system in this game is actually pretty good. Not locking dyes behind a paywall or a goldsink is great.

>>146757471
>Not locking dyes behind a paywall
I have some bad news for you.

Dying costumes is going to be a crown store feature only unless you have ESO plus.

Group finder working , feels good

>>146757594
So we can still dye normal armor, right?

>>146757594
>Dying costumes

you will still be able to dye armor

>>146757594
Aren't costumes bought in the crown store to begin with? Maybe I'm missing something?

They're not taking anything away from existing players from what I can tell, just making a new feature ESO+ exclusive. Honestly ESO+ needs a bit of a boost in value, the crafting inventory was a very good start.

>>146754317
>>146755435

I think you only need to look up veteran dungeons and you should do it before running any veteran dungeon for the first time. There is no guarantee your group members know the mechanics, want to bother explaining it or know how the tank should play. And the wiki is outdated as fuck, it doesn't even have veteran Banished Cells listed. Deltias veteran guides are old too but the mechanics described there are still the same currently. There's some things not there like where to skip through the lava in veteran City of Ash.

>>146757680
>>146757697
>>146757769
Yes you can still dye your regular armor.

COSTUMES ONLY are behind paywall.

>>146757793
I've noticed that a lot of resources for the game are very outdated so in the end I have no idea what's reliable and what's not. Sucks a bit as a new player but oh well.

>>146757805
well that's not so bad then
costumes are pretty shit as they are

>>146757793
Are there different mechanics in veteran mode or not? e.g. can I learn the mechanics by just doing normal dungeons

>>146757938
I used deltias guides before my first time in each vet dungeon and it was mostly correct in how my group actually did things. The boss mechanics are entirely correct. Stuff about where to position and who to target can be irrelevant as groups do things a little differently sometimes now but that's not going to get you killed.

>>146684085

Agree. ESO really needs to embrace the sandbox elements more.

>>146758189
The veteran versions are a completely new dungeons with new enemies and mechanics in the same location or with new locations in the same dungeon. So, no, the normal version does not teach you anything about the veteran version.

Should I bother making CP 160 gear? Or is CP 150 gear sufficient? I don't want to craft gear and then at the end of the year they increase the level cap, wasting money.

>>146758565
>Should I bother making CP 160 gear?

yes, of course

>I don't want to craft gear and then at the end of the year they increase the level cap, wasting money.

it's an mmo and that's always a possibility you need to deal with. cp150 gear is shit.

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>>146758189
>>146758464

Veteran dungeons are story continuations of the normal dungeons. A lot of dungeons left with a cliffhanger. Say Fungal Grotto. Sure you've banished the goblins and dreughs but who were those strange cultists you helped?

>>146758565
160 over 150, no question. Once you've done it you're gonna feel like a moron for not doing it sooner.

>>146758742
>>146758876
Right, will do.

Btw, any of you know any good places to farm rubedo leather? 20k a stack and I think I'll need at least 900 to make 7 pieces. I only have thieve's guild dlc

>>146758565
It's really not that expensive, you get 160cp purple with purple enchants for nothing, like 100k or less for a whole set including weapons. It's when you go full legend + kuta enchants and you're paying like 100K+ a piece of gear.

>>146759057
You can make 15k in 45min once a day by thieving if you have 140 fence interactions. The inn in Rawl'kha has over 30 containers and you can go through them and relog once per minute only taking green or better treasures. Kill the NPCs, use Rapid Maneuver and run through the containers. Use MasterThief addon to autoloot the right stuff. Do it before you stop playing for the day so the bounty will be gone when you start playing the next day. Since you have TG you could use the passive for increasing bounty decay speed if you want.

>>146759534
>The inn in Rawl'kha has over 30 containers and you can go through them and relog once per minute only taking green or better treasures. Kill the NPCs, use Rapid Maneuver and run through the containers. Use MasterThief addon to autoloot the right stuff.
Cool, will try this out. Thanks.

>>146758565
Start with CP 140 gear then slowly make 160 pieces one by one.

How's gear progression in this game? Linear? Every new dungeon/raid makes the previous one pointless since it has better gear?
How good is crafted gear vs dungeon gear?

>>146759057
I personally don't think thieving areas and selling is worth the time. It only gives gold, no xp or mats. If you want to thieve and make real money do the daily heist perfectly and it'll drop good motifs to sell. 10k for 15 mins work.

If you have Orsinium the Old Orsinium public delve is the best place to get rubedo leather. It's also an xp farming area, partner with a guy to get 10% bonus xp. Also it drops ancient Orc motifs which give good money when sold. So you get multiple things instead of just gold.

>>146760001
Crafted gear can be upgraded, rather, improved via crafting to get better stats. I have a Blue tier crafted chestpiece that has 500 armour. I crafted it with an Experience gain trait and then enchanted it with some crafted enchantment.

>>146760190
Oh yeah, it's level 6 too. I'm finding green tier level 10 armour with less armour than this crafted piece.

>>146760001
The majority your endgame gear can be crafted with the base game. The Devs are careful to not obsolete previous gear with new dlcs, new stuff is mostly side grades.

>>146760458
That's great and what I was hoping for. That way they at least keep most of the content relevant instead of new patches making old ones pointless.

>>146760190
How do you craft green/blue stuff? I only have the option to make white gear.

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>>146760901
>Crafting
>Improvement tab

so if I want to buy werewolf bite, what's the common price I should offer? not that I have a lot of gold, but I'd rather not overpay

or maybe someone here isn't a damn jew and will give one for free?

PC EU @Woo-Zie

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>>146761023
>That UI

>>146761673
Join a guild (or join the guild in the OP). Guildies most of the time give them for free.

>>146761746
Yeah, not sure I like the Curved UI.

>>146761787
>or join the guild in the OP

I'm in it and nobody is ever online

>>146762291
Welp, rip EU. Just hang around one of the main cities and check chat for large guilds that are recruiting.

>>146761673
Are you DC? If you are I can give you one.

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>>146750584

F2P also attracts BR's and their European equivalent, Russians.

>>146684085
One Tamriel is coming in Q4

Some dumbass posted his password in chat, take what you want. NA
khajiit khemist
Pw UchiSoto7

Just tanked my first dungeon, damn, it's something else. Think I did fine considering I stayed alive during the spider boss with the healer afk, still felt a bit messy with random mobs running around, could only manage to hold the big one and an extra 2-3 on me.

Anyway I managed to get almost 2 levels out of that. Made me wonder if doing all the side quests + running dungeons multiple times is okay or will I hit a wall where my exp will go to waste (reach 50 then not get exp till I finish the main story or something) or will the exp after 50 continue into post max level progression no matter where I am in the story?

>>146762884
AD unfortunately

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Haven't paid my internet service and this shit is so slow, I just want to do gear research and log out.

>>146763285
Pay your internet service.

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What will be the 2016 Q4 DLC along with One Tamriel?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10601665

>>146755031
Are you me? That's basically my build right now. I'm thinking of respeccing 'cause I put a few skill points in stuff I don't need, but I doubt it's worth it with how many skill points this game gives you.

So should I be following a build if I want to heal late game or do I get enough skill points to basically just do what I want?

Do people at low level roles just check off "Healer" for the hell of it? This is the third healer in a row that doesn't fucking heal.

>>146763665
I don't care

>>146765228
You'll have all the skill points you'll need, easily.

>>146765265
more likely they simply have no idea what they are doing

>>146765265
Some check healer or tank to reduce their queue times.

>>146765684
Alright cool

>>146765781

It should frankly be reportable to do that and maybe you don't get banned from the game, but you get banned from groupfinder.

>>146765664
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

>>146691780
ESO is best if you just pretend other players are NPCs with (sometimes) complex AI.

>>146765781
How do they expect to progress if they can't heal/tank? Am I missing something or are these people especially dumb?

>>146685462
>archeage
literally rolling on the flooring aloudly laughing my ass off

Are 60 days of Plus usually ~$18 on G2A or should I stock up now?

>>146766921
and planetside 2 is an fps

that anon was quite obviously retarded or troll

>>146766361
With enough dps you don't need a tank in normal dungeons. Or much healing.

>>146767081
that's actually above the regular price for it on g2a, I think

it's 12-15$ usually

is dunmer DK still a thing?

>>146767081
Do you get the 3000 jew points to go with it?

>>146766279
No problem, let me know if you have any more questions for me

>>146767330
Ok.

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>>146767270
very much so

>>146767667
lowest settings D:

>>146767250
Oh nice. Guess I'll wait then

>>146767320
Yes

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>downloading and installaling the patch took maybe 15 seconds
I pity 'first worlders' who don't know that feel
t. Poland

>>146767931
Took me about the same actually.
t. Burgerland Resident

>>146767931
I guess this is a good a place as any to ask. What the hell is this "t." shit. It just appeared one day out of nowhere and now it's everywhere, and I still don't know what the fuck does it even stand for.

>>146768327
t. has been a meme for a while now newfriend

>>146768426
I know it has, I just never asked anyone until now. And I still don't know what that shit even means.

AND I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN ON 4CHAN SINCE 1984

>>146768327
terveiset

>>146768568
It's one of the many epic memes we imported from finland. t. = "terveisin" or "terkkuja". It translate to something like "Yours Truly" or "Sincerely"

>>146768327
It's a thing from Finland, it's short for "terveiset". It's essential "best regards".
So saying "t.Nightblade", he's caliming you're a Nightblade.

>>146768327
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+does+t.+mean

>>146768992
I may be pathetic, but I'm not pathetic enough to google memes

thanks for doing it for me, anon

>>146767667
All solo? No war horns, spell power cure etc?

>>146748215
>>146748408
>>146748673

I have logged 143 hours into the steam version and did not need to redownload a single time. Dunno what the ruckus about this is.

New player here, struggling to pick between DK and NB, can anyone give me pros and cons, fun levels, ideal specs for lvling/pvp etc? I'm interested in both pve and pvp.

>can't seem to find many gathering nodes at all
>invest in Keen Eye
>turns out nodes are just uncommon
3 points down the drain. baka desu senpai

Hey /tesog/ need some advices here.

Im trying to make a hybrid build with my NB for pvp mostly.

The idea is to engage dropping some spells and debuffs from range position till the target get offguard and jump in to make a melee burst to finish the job.

I want to make use of dual wielding for the melee part.

Now, any ideas for this build?

Another option is to use a bow and dps from range with stam based spells and make a burst with the dual using magika skills.

I want to give it a feel of magic assasin toon.

>>146753590
>>146753485
Can you (or anyone) estimate their playtime to lvl 50? Just curious.

>>146770619
get the harvestmap addon

>>146770767
> Im trying to make a hybrid build
You're going to have to pick between either doing damage with your magicka abilities or stamina abilities. You can't get both.

Where do I respec my points, how expensive is it?

Also how chatty is the EU guild? I enjoy playing solo most of the time since I'm inefficient as fuck and just run around, but I wouldn't mind talking to people while I do that.

>>146768767
>>146768901
>>146768909
[spolier] SUOMI MAINITTU. TORILLA TAVATAAN. [/spoiler]

Which of the crafting passives are worth considering? How are hirelings?

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>>146772085
>>>/trash/

>>146772140
All, get hirelings asap. The Blacksmith hireling alone can randomly give you 9k worth of crafting materials per day.

>>146772140
>>146772412
Or rather, all outside of the one that makes the nodes be more visible. Just turn off grass if you want to search for ore and wood.

>>146772085
ctrl+s

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>>146768327
here in bok says it means : greetin gs

>>146772412
>>146772547
Oh damn, here I thought it was some nub trap. Guess I'll invest into those then.

>>146761023

That UI is incredibly obnoxious.

>>146771471
You also want to have something researching at the crafting stations at all time, in both carpentry, tailoring and blacksmithing. Even if you don't craft anything for several months, you're gonna regret not doing it if you ever decide to take up crafting.

>>146772905
derp, meant >>146772665

PTS is being updated... Soon we shall see the first draft of the upcoming patch notes.

Racial passive changes
CP cap increase
New dungeons and sets
Balance updates
Barbershop