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Visual Novel General #1120

READ THE FOLLOWING, THIS IS IMPORTANT

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:

1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Read the wiki below
4. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
http://visual-novels-general.wikia.com/wiki/

>Need a novel with a specific element?
http://vndb.org/g

>Visual Novel Translation Status
https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&search_tripcode=%21%21UcDDlzwANFs&search_op=op

>Download Links:
http://pastebin.com/U7HUj0fk/

Previous threads:
>>146443015
http://pastebin.com/zeiYgLrs/

This general is for the discussion of Japanese visual novels.

Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.
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Please only post pure waifus here. no skanks
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>>146567084
lets start off right, post innocent cute
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>>146567362
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>>146567639
NO CRIPPLE GIRLS ALLOWED

FUCK OFF
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>>146567084
I love her
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>>146567849
they are fine too as long as they love you.
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>>146567849
FAGGOT PLEASE THERE'S NEITHER A GIRL NOR A CRIPPLE* IN THIS IMAGE

*YMMV
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>>146567963
who doesn't man. people ironically bash on her just because she's a bit off
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>>146568417
no they bash her because they don't know how to express their love for her and are confused with their inner selves.
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>>146568417
I don't. I like her though, even when she's not best Grisaia.
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>>146568840
Wow anon you can't just post that and leave. Did someone torture her or something?
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>>146568840
what cripple pimp sim is she from?
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Reminder to stay determined.
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I just finished through Kindered Spirits on the Roof. I thought it was really charming, Yuna and Hina are especially an adorable couple.

What are some other good yuri VN's?
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>>146569098
Whores.
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>>146569094
https://vndb.org/v18290
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>>146569948
>https://vndb.org/v18290
I see, thanks man
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https://mobile.twitter.com/moe_twinstyle/status/745928337168695296/video/1
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In what language are they singing in Fata Morgana?
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kastel being bipolar explains a LOT of things lmao
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>>146572525
broken Portuguese
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>>146572103
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What did he mean by this?
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>>146572103
Real life girls are so fat.
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Guys, is this translated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9z3gq3Slx8 [Embed]

I am new to VN so i don't know if there is a list of currently translated VNs, i wanted to play this one tho.
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>>146573054
How 'bout you stop filling your face with burgers and start going to the gym you fat fuck?
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>>146574039

Check the vndb page

https://vndb.org/v18842

It isn't even out in Japan yet, and since it appears to be a generic moege it is unlikely it will ever be translated
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>>146569638
Every eroge can be yurige if you're hard enough.
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>>146574137
Nah, son. Watch some of their livesteams he's kind of anorexic
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>>146572798
Wow I never truly talked to him but he sounded pretty fun and stable on #tlwiki
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>>146572798
Why did he write that in jap?
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Also this thread was made too damn early
No wonder /vn/ is dying
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She sure is stacked.
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>>146574890
She looks like a bitch in heat.
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>>146574817

not on my watch
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>>146574890
Someone needs to tell them using lead based makeup just to look pale is extremely unhealthy.
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>>146567362
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>>146576313
A cute, her voice is top tier.
MASAYA-SAN
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>>146576313
Why oh you
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>>146576313


>>146577419
>MASAYA-SAN
Rise's exclamation of that when he cracked his damn head open in the clocktower pulled my damn heartstrings too hard.

Ritsuko's last line though still is best for me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sia9zovlMXw
Was it autism?
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>>146577419
her awkward ohhohoho laugh was so cute.
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I guess this game isn't so unfun to play when you figure out you can move any tile around the board and aren't limited to a single horizontal/vertical move.
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Too bad the vn parts are still dumb 2-minute long forgettable shit.
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Really makes you think...
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>>146582178

Yes, flowers do like it
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First time I'm actually laughing at the dialogue in this crappy game.
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>>146582515
Oh sunflower-san I want to pollinate you
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>>146582704
>>146582178
Nihonjin and their balloon boobs. will this shit ever end?
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>>146583067
Probably never because a lot of artists can't draw tits worth shit.
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>>146582816

Be careful what you wish for.

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/932202/fef2c3df28/
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>>146583067
I hear you man. Nothing but balloony bitches so far. Even the childish one was a titty monster.
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>>146583774
Nothing wrong with cowtits, but when they're drawn like that they just look like shitty implants.
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>>146580664
>>146582178
yeah a shame, but i would be fine with it if only the mini game was fun.
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>>146584172
>Nothing wrong with cowtits
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>read majikoi
>Chika has better route than main routes
How could this be allowed?
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>>146585147
Cowtits are bad but I'm guilty of liking Takao from D-frag. Best girl
S2 when
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Looks like I just unlocked the Innocent Girl sluts now. Why am I still playing this?
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>>146586636
Go left then down? I'm almost sure there's a passage through the bushes
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>>146586636
you don't need to
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http://novelnews.net/2009/07/17/jast-usa-is-working-with-fan-translators-for-nitro-titles/
Django where?
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This one's pretty cute.
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>>146588987
Isn't her the loli right here>>146585980
She looks quite demanding here, with bigger boobs and her feet is kind of chubby too. I have to admit I quite like it though
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>>146589303
Yes

It's still just an insipid CG with no sex scene or dialogue to go with it though.
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>>146589559
So you beat the game and they drop somes CGs for the player?
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>>146590048
And some boring dialogue thrown in between, which doesn't really matter since you spend a whooping 10 minutes total with each character.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUNUE5r4bW0
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>>146590578
So they literally wasted their time using CGs from a VN, added a non-trademarked version of Bejeweled, added softcore rewards and decided to go with it?

Lovely.
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>>146591060
yeah they tried to cash in on huniepops popularity without understanding what made it fun and good.
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>>146591221
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>>146591378
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>>146591060
Yup.

>>146591147
To be fair it's not THAT terrible to play, but Huniepop was still lots more fun.
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>>146591629
That's a big hat
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>>146591629
Jesus Christo. Her head is fucking hugehelp this esl here. what do you call that thing, a beret?
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>>146591818
Closer to a cabbie cap than a beret.

I'm no brit so I can't really identify it well honestly. They're not common in MURRIKA
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>>146591818
Looks like one of those hats you see kids in movies wear while handing out newspapers
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Fata Morgana fandisc when lads?
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>>146592436
>tfw everyone you watched and sympathized with died a bad to terrible death
>nothing they did could fix it, they were all doomed to have terrible lives
>only people living centuries later with the same "souls" get a good life
I know they're supposed to be the same, but I can't deal with it.
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Would be neat if they eventually brought over Innocent and pure girl titles over and then created a proper game to go with it, but i guess its way too far fetched.
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>>146591221
Anyone else find it weird that people talk about non-Japan as having repressive laws when you can't even show a vagoo in Japan?
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I can't believe there is no Grisaia discussion at all.
I thought you guys were joking about the 18+ thing...
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>>146592843
Vagoos are nasty anyways.
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>>146592935
>they even removed the sex jokes.
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>>146592648
>implying they didn't deserve to suffer for centuries for what they did to Morgana
they should be thankful for being reincarnated at all
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>>146592935
I read meikyuu over a year ago man.
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>>146593523
>implying Mell or Nellie deserved any of that shit when Mell was being blackmailed and threatened and Nellie literally didn't do anything wrong
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>>146592935
moogy was right apparently. Grisaia is old and busted.
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>>146593491
Sex jokes are for teenagers.
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>>146592935
Grisaia is just kusoge without ero.
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>>146593491
I thought that was literally half the VN.
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>>146593842
So is Grisaia.
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when is mangagamer translating this masterpiece?
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>>146593842
Your mum is teenager.
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>>146591629
>>146590578
The girls are lewd as fuck though, all the game did for me is want me to play the originals, which will never happen given the sales disaster that is everything frontwing puts out.
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>>146594032
Your post is not a masterpiece.
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>>146594032
Can't wait to see that eroge in your image post. I bet it would be masterpiece, and even Ikikoi is not as masterpiece as that eroge.
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>>146594117
>which will never happen given the sales disaster that is everything frontwing puts out.
They game actually probably sold fairly well given the amount of people who were playing it day one.
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>>146594071
I wish.
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>>146594117
Yeah the Pure Girls were all pretty lewd (and blonde titty monster was hilarious), I'm not done with Innocent girls but there was nothing lewd about the loli painter. Too bad the interactions only last for so long.

>>146594329
And a good chunk of those sales probably got refunded given the mixed reception to the game.
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>>146594138
>>146594312
I dun goofed once more
https://vndb.org/v10294
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>>146594808
what a cutie!
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>>146594329
Steamspy has trouble estimating low sales games accurately, but it's giving 600 ~ 3600 roughly, with 2100 estimated. That's over twice as much as Labyrinth of Grisaia, but still not a good result. It's probably on average for a VN release these days, but for something that required original development work it's probably not likely to make back it's cost.

They've really shot themselves in the foot with their releases though. Both Grisaia and Purino party launched just a day before the steam summer sale, which means they've basically forfeit their store visibility. They also randomly put out Leisure of Grisaia, which while not awful, probably makes people less likely to react to a real Grisaia game popping up on steam.

On a random note, the Purino Party translation (if it's a translation) is actually really solid... there's just not much there to justify reading.
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>>146591060
>non-trademarked version of Bejeweled
from what I understand, it's more like Puzzle and Dragons, which makes it mobage tier
>>146592935
if people are that impatient they would've also watched the anime, what "discussion" did you even expect?
>>146594117
probably still sold more than MG stuff
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>>146594808
I've jacked it to guys skull fucking loli eye sockets, but bugs still make me want to puke
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>guys skull fucking loli eye sockets
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>>146594808
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>>146595151
source
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If Subahibi doesn't come out today I'm ending it
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>>146595785
You ended it a long time ago. None of this is real. You are not posting.
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>>146594808
The CYCLET VAs always manage to bore me
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http://web.archive.org/web/20130618202138/http://www.erojiji.net/index.php?/topic/5828-spetsnaz-project/page__st__60#entry38324
Does anyone remember those guys? their site is dead now. Rip your diary
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>>146596109
>moege trash
lol who cares
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>>146595109

They no longer care about the original Grisaia. Otherwise they wouldn't release something else so close to it, as it's essentially "competing against yourself". They are through with Sekai, which is rather understandable.
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>>146596109
https://vndb.org/v5286
How do people even get so hype and serious over vns like this?
The a big distinction between "EOPs" and "JOPs", anyway, is that it seems there's infinite EOPs who get stuck up on by all means mediocre moege and spend years in despair over not being able to read them, whereas JOPs just read'm and react with utter dispassion since all these beloved games tend to be mediocre in truth, the EOPs just being led on by pretty art. What a tragic story.
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>>146596473
If they localize Island I'll buy three copies.
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>>146596625
>buying visual novels
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>>146596109
I heard this VN was TERRIBLE.
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>>146596557
As a JOP I have to say that reading mediocre moege is very entertaining though.

In-fact, the worse and more stupid they are, the more I enjoy them.
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>>146596557
Nah son. we know better, why do you think no one is discussing the kusoge that is Grisaia?
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>>146596846
>mfw grisaia used to be vn's favorite vn
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>>146596830
Sure, they're entertaining, I'm talking about the despair and the years of just utter desperation, did you read that page?
>*I'll need someone with high qualification to do her route, this is not some play thing.
>I don't need you bragging about your japanese skill, I only need you to be confident, a hell of confidence to translate this VN. No downfall after you've started it. --this shit has no deadline
Etc
All for a meh game in a pile of meh games.
>>146597032
I am dead fucking certain that almost everyone who actually reads vns has left /vn/. How else do you explain vn threads on /vn/ because so populous but literally no one playing grisaia posting here? The lack of releases over the past years killed every regular but JOPs who don't need translations and shitposters who don't read VNs anyhow.
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>>146597172
アメリカ人。。。
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>>146596557
Well, you could say that with how many moege there are JOPs end up finding little distinction between them. I can't really say much on the JOP side because my knowledge of nihongo is rudimentary at best and I have no character knowledge, but I'd think that in the end there ends up being so many moege that you'd have exhausted most of the possibilities in the first place.

I'm picky as fuck about some of my reads and I've already started logging things that probably will never get translated or are in the process of being translated. Another point is that eventually you end up wanting something more than a cute romance. Which is all a moege really is, and if there's nothing else drawing you in why the hell would you read it?

>>146596846
>>146597032
Some of the things in grisaia are pretty interesting. The quirks of Sachi and Michiru are nice. Amane, Makina, and Yumiko though scream "Its been done before", and while Yuuji does have some fairly interesting things, I honestly feel he's split between the tragic protag and your ordinary one. I like my tragic heroes because Hamlet hooked me on that shit but when you add in the shit "Clueless as a fucking brick" and "No humor" it just falls flat. I'm reading through it fully anyways because its worth a try at least in my opinion.

That's probably why EOPs want more moeges translated because the ones we have right now aren't exactly interesting, and while JOPs have access to all they really could care less on them.

t. person with shit opinions and shit taste.
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I like visual novels
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>>146596557
Now, I remember back then I tried reading it with trash machine trans, never again.
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>>146598142
In my case Grisaia being bad is just a meme. Though my favorite part was the common route so I don't know how much I'll like the grand route
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>>146598284
You'd like My Girlfriend is the President then.
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>>146598284
I feel like you're in the wrong thread...
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>>146598403

I don't like moege garbage.
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>>146597172
There was minor discussion about Girsaia the other day, though.

It didn't sell all that well, and many people are angry about the censorship and how over priced it is. Obviously people can just pirate it if they really want I suppose.

Majimeme A-1 got a TL just the other day and there have been plenty of posts about it here. So obviously there are still people who read visual novels here. You're overreacting.

Just wait until something really big gets fully tl'd. I bet you this place will turn into a Favorite general again once AstralAir is finished.
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I like moege, and (you).
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I like vn's, but I always get bullied away from here because I only read them in Japanese
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>>146598142
>Which is all a moege really is
Moege are pretty much universally vehicles of comedy as well, at the very least there's some thick SOL elements. A moege that's literally just shallow, cutesy romance is insufferable. If a VN has nothing to support it but romance, it better be engaging romance.

Either way, the real problem JOP face that EOP do not is the problem of writing. If a VN is translated, it's probably going to be at least somewhat good, since someone went out of their way to TL it. JOPs on the other hand have everything, including the shit, which is a real problem. For example, check this game out. https://vndb.org/v18141 . The art may look nice, but the writing is so fucking awful everyone I know who's read it got so sick in the heart and mind they couldn't finish. So though there are more moege available a JOP must be especially vigilant.
>>146598538
There was meta-discussion about grisaia, yeah, but no discuss of the game itself. Doddler tweeted, he's looking for discussion about the game, but all he can find is people complaining about the price and lack of lewd. That's what I'm talking about.
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>>146598741
Then stop paying attention to shitposters.
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>>146598538
this desu

i'm mostly just waiting for AA, Saku Saku, and Clover Days while i do college and work on my other hobbies.

none of the recent tls other than Fata Morgana have really interested me so i just dont discuss them here
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>>146598741
Wrong board
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>>146598741
I feel bad for you son. this is truly a cruel world why don't you go to #tlwiki you'll be able to discuss kamige with moogy and co.
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>>146598846
Here's a shitposter now.
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>>146598538
Too bad Astral air won't be coming out until November of next year.
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>>146598741
Show them who's boss by becoming the bully.
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>>146598775
what is wrong with this guy's face? he looks like Hikigaya, Tatsuya, Yuuji and every BL guy all at once. it's scary
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>>146598946
Not really shitposting why wouldn't you go to /jp/ if you can read Japanese?
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>>146598778
There was literal discussion about the new title, though. Mostly about how it's bad.

My point though is is that people still read new releases. Just because people don't seem to be interested in Grisaia doesn't really prove any point about no one reading/discussing new releases in /vn/.

I mean, I didn't expect Fata to get discussed here much at all but it was talked about a lot. A lot of shitposting around it too, but that's true for literally everything here.
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>>146599138
>i'm not really shitposting, honest
>here, let me shitpost harder to convince you
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>>146598507
Moege that references G Gundam and Demonbane can't possibly be garbage.
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>>146593086
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>>146599259
Here's a shitposter now.
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>>146599259
what would be not shitposting in this thread? there's no VNs to discuss
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>>146599176
No, there was meta-discussion likely from people who haven't even bought or played the game. That's exactly who I'm saying is still here - shitposters who don't even play games.
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>>146598507
moege are good for you anon. They heal the soul.
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We could discuss how Fata Morgana is better than every moege in existence combined together.
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>>146599038
It's like, what, 80% done? Minus QC. I can see it being done early next year.
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>>146599485
You have to factor in the 6 month process of Sekai project picking it up
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>>146599327
It's nice of you to simply out yourself as a shitposter for me.
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>>146599372
https://www.strawpoll.me/10588135
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https://www.strawpoll.me/10588135
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>>146599481
Fata Morgana is a moege.
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>>146599594
Every yes vote is from a JOP.
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>>146599575
Well if Sekai does cuck us out of it we won't likely be getting it for at least another 2 years :^)
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>>146599594
I read when I'm not taking care of my wife and kids. Kids are such a handful once they learn to walk.
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>>146599578
>i'm not really shitposting, honest
>here, let me harder to convince you
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>>146599647
But I voted maybe
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>>146599818
wife and her kids
ftfy
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>>146599920
It's even funnier the fifteenth time
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>>146599372
I'm waiting for the 18+ version like I'm sure others are
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>>146599823
Here's a shitposter now. One that doesn't know how to use a copypaste function. How quaint.
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>>146599762
Joking aside Astral air probably will get picked up by them considering they picked up Hoshimemo
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>>146599983
This, not gonna play Meikyuu without the 18+ version.
I'm really hyped for it and I'm sure the writing is good, but I'm not going to play it now and ruin my experience playing the 18+ version.
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>>146598778
>So though there are more moege available a JOP must be especially vigilant.
Ah. Pretty much the sifting process is done already for an EOP, while a JOP has to end up potentially wasting time for something good. I can respect JOPs more now.

I still am gonna wish there were stronger moeges/romance VNs. Or at least something other than the generic protag, master of everything, winner at life, guaranteed to survive any near-death experience. Protagonist getting crippled/damaged in some routes would be a welcome change. Time to look through vndb for this shit. And time to come across 0 english results.
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I like vampire girls.
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>>146599594

People are just going to pick the meme options, should have made it only yes/no
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>>146600168
The translators wont do that to us
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Am I the only one who's disappointed with Maitetsu's h scenes? Like, the spritework is amazing and all, but they are awkward as hell when in motion during sex scenes.

And the lolis only make generic rapey screams during sex, which is doubly disappointing for a high quality VN.
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>>146600267
Wrong board
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>>146600486
What is she trying to convey?
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>>146600486
I was disappointed too. They're animated fairly awkwardly and a lot of the positions weren't that great. Mediocre voice direction.
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>>146600486
>>146600681
Welp you're deflowering little kids so I guess that explain their screamings
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>>146601138
No, nothing like that. The H noises were just generic. They weren't overly loud/horrifying or anything, just typical H noises. Good voice directing can really make a H scene top tier. Maitetsu certainly did not have good H voices. Just kinda mediocre.
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>>146601138
Fuck realism, I just want lolis to be tenderly loved.
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>>146601572
>justifying pedophilia
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>>146601628
>2016
>He's not muslim
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>>146601628
She's 18rtf.
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>>146601817
what. this is an atheist forum go away you and your prophets
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i'm loving this quality so far
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>>146602165
Sensei was best girl
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>>146601572

me too
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>>146602708
I... what? what.
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>>146601572
>>146603568
>>146603916
Is this illegal?
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>>146604761
They're 18
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>>146604761
If you're a filthy Canadian.
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>>146604847
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>>146603568
>>146603916
Is this a good game, or is it just a meme to post from this game? Also, is there a translation in progress?
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Can you make your own images with this slider fuckery in Monobeno as well? If so I'll download it just to make another collection of silly faces.

>>146604761
I hope not.
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>>146605023
>is there a translation in progress?
There is but there's no sign of an 18+ version and its considered a lolige.

If my memory is correct, dovac is the person responsible for that.
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>>146605324
>dovac is the person responsible for that.
There is no one single person responsible for it, there's a variety of factors all coming to play. Pinning the blame on a single person is just childish.
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>>146602165
i gotta ask why was his character so out of place?

Its a reference to another title aint it??
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>>146605436
Fuck off, dovac.
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>>146605324
>no sign of an 18+ version
Fuck sake. Only thing I hate worse than something not being translated is that the only release is an all ages version.
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>>146605023
There is, but I think I've stopped caring about reading it after masturbating about ten times to the porn scenes already.
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>>146605436
I haven't really looked into it so I'll admit yeah its retarded to place one person on the pedestal. However its still a fact that the person who's at the wheel gets to decide where to drive. And that decision was an all-ages.

Chances are some god-send man will make a restoration patch anyways.
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>>146605023

As far as I know it's not a good game. It kinda depends on the person, but a lot of people don't like the routes, and enough don't like it at all. You'd think it's about trains and scenery porn or something, but it's a lot of random talk about technical details, money, economics, politics and shit. And not particularly interesting or for a major story. It's slice of life alright.

Weird VN. I myself couldn't be bothered with it. Dropped it relatively fast.
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>>146604761
If you're Canadian.
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>>146606786
I am Canadian. What should I do?
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>>146607270
move to somewhere more free?
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That's a big bell.
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Maybe am just new, but I'm currently enjoying Grisaia.
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>>146607509
You should check out Ayakashibito then.
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>>146607509
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>>146607509
You should check out Euphoria then.
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>>146606315
Sounds like shit. Glad I decided to read Akeiro first
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>>146607625
Why Ayakashibito? It's pretty different from Grisaia.
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>>146607772
No reason.
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>le grisaia is bad
When will this meme die?
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>le grisaia is good
When will this meme die?
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I haven't read Grisaia. How is the comedy?
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>>146608253
It's pretty comedic.
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>>146608253
It's the only good thing about the VN
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>>146608253
Kinda making me rethink not downloading that
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How long until Dovac confirms no uncensor patch for Maitetsu on AX?
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>>146608914
There is way worse than that
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>>146609239
Like with everything else he'll put it off to the very last minute.
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>>146609239
AX is in about 6 days so then?
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Is it true that one girl in Maitetsu loses their arms?
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>>146610268
Yes. You watch it happen.
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>>146610268
Don't know about that. they do lose their chasteness though
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>>146610268
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>>146610396
So they become whores?
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Choose wisely
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>>146611007
Holy shit.
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>>146611236
164cm or 160cm
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>>146611420
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>>146611507
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>>146611236
The white-haired one
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>>146612110
She's hot.
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See you in a couple weeks lads, ZTD apparently leaked on 3DS already and I'm not staying here for the spoilers.
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>>146613504
Yes. for a loli game she's quite well done if she's got a route I might check this game out
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>>146613858
She's got a side route. Not very long. I would say not worthwhile, but I don't think the whole game is worthwhile in the first place.
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>>146611007
that's hilarious
>>146611236
160 or 164 because I'm not a fucking lolicon degenerate
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>>146611236
Choose what, which one gets a sandwich? They could all really use one and I don't know why else that 114cm girl could possibly be there.
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Anyone playing A-1 find anything else extra? Like there's the scene with Yamato's mom in Benkei's route, and the different ending in Sayaka's. Anyone know if there's a flowchart?
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>>146617079
All the extra stuff is easy to get to if you just change a couple decisions.

Oh and make sure to re-do Asuka's route and chose the other option when she asks Yamato if he thinks that she's attractive to get a different h-scene post credits.

The scene change might be to do with the options you pick throughout the route but changing that one decision did it for me,
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>>146617547
That might be true but I don't want to replay using every choice with every other choice. I don't think losing in all the school beach challenges changes anything about Benkei's ending/dialogue compared to winning every one. And the Yoshitsune choice about Onii-chan or Nee-san only changed a couple lines.
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goodnight guys
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who sango here?
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>>146621273
cute character, cute voice, shit route, and even worse that no scene with her hair down was had.
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>>146621273
No hair down, no buy.
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>>146621273
I liked Sango, but felt the route was too weak.

Also 3P not being Sango + Konami was a mistake.
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So was Dovacs secret project the nekopara merch or does he have something else cooking?
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>>146626286
Astral air announcement
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How do you properly immerse yourself in a moege universe?
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>>146628505
>Astral air
Whatever happened to that trip fag who posted here? Chuee?
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>>146628698
Arrested
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>>146624421
This 2bh
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>>146628698

He converted to Islam so he could rape lolis freely.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4owjzh/idaho_muslim_migrants_hold_knife_to_throat_of/
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>>146628698
It's obvious that he's about to get paid big sekaibuks. We'll get it next spring
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>>146628581
Be dumb, dense and have little to no experience in relationships. Thats all you need.
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>>146629393
>no fun allowed: the post
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>>146628581
Just accept everything at face value and let it take you for a ride.
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>>146629393
>relationship experience
Where do you think you are?
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>>146628698

I'm right here.
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>>146630750
Do you like lolis?
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>>146630750
its nice to see you guys making continuous progress on your project. Keep it up.

When can we expect to buy it?
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I hate lolis
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I love lolis
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>>146628581
Lots of alcohol
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>>146631136

I'll make a post with more information in the weeks ahead once tl hits 100.

>>146631050

That goes without saying.
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Does anyone remember this?
https://vndb.org/v1660
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>>146633053
Yeah. I dropped it before I even got to an h-scene.

Why?
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>>146633053
Yes, wasn't that great. Why do you ask?
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>>146633276
Just remembered it was being talked about a few years ago here in /VN/ and wanted to see if it was worth reading.
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>>146633486
Not really. Mediocre story and the h-scenes weren't great. It was cute, but there was a chunk of drama too. Most interesting girl was the white-haired chick. It wore out its welcome before the end.
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>>146633053
Is that Shinikiss? I couldn't finish it. I think I got through the imouto route and then couldn't force myself through any of the others after that garbage. I might have been able to keep going if the shinigami mentor lady had a route because she was the only character I found even slightly interesting.
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>>146633053
>>146634453

It's the most similar VN to Hoshimemo, but its score is much lower. Probably not worth dealing with unless you're out of other things to read, but at that point it would be a better idea to learn Japanese if you've already consumed that many VNs.
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Can companies like MG translate Elf games without any needed permission since Elf closed?
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>>146635529
No
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>>146635387
No worries anon I already know enough Jap to enjoy some Vn's currently enjoying https://vndb.org/v12260 and https://vndb.org/v10614 maybe it was a bad idea starting a route with a yandere.
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>>146636204

It's good you've taken the initiative to learn.

Stay determined.
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>>146632835
Getting ready for the kickstarter.
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Just backed the Corona Blossom indiegogo. Almost forgot to do so before it ended. Strongly advise you all do, too.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/corona-blossom-a-visual-novel-by-frontwing#/
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>>146640525
$0.05 has been deposited in your Frontwing account.
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>>146640654
While you're at it, buy VA-11 HALL-A. It's really good.
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>>146640715
Come on, Venezuelan money isn't even worth anything.
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>>146640763
Don't argue, just buy it. You'll enjoy it, I promise. Buy Corona Blossom, too. It's by Frontwing. You'll enjoy it, I promise.
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>>146636894
Whore.
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>>146640525

The main girl seems interesting, reminds me of Ell from Osadai.
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>>146641875
Say that to IRL and see what happens.
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>>146644032
Who's IRL?
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>>146644102
Incandescence Recoilless Laser
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>>146644102
International Relationship with Loli
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>>146641875
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>>146644953
I think you don't. She's a whore.
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>>146635387

Game's by Orgel, who is one of the better moege writers out there. And you see that. Shinikiss ain't bad. Well, the endings kinda are. Especially the true ending is a big joke, but I just loved it. If anyone actually likes that loli the most, you probably want to stay away, as that ending might make you mad. Otherwise it's pretty funny if you think about what it actually does.

That said, there's better stuff out there. I'd still recommend it over Hoshimemo though. Quality-wise they probably aren't too far apart, but Shinikiss is relatively on point and not too long. In a medium were shit gets always bloated that's actually not so bad.
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>>146646015
Wrong opinions: the post
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I have a terrible fetish for mainstream VAs who start voicing 18+ VNs

I'm filthy, absolutely filthy
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>>146646936
I have a fetish for seiyuus who do both. Any time I hear Asami Imai's voice, I get rock hard.
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You're not dying yet, faggots.
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>>146649435
Wake the fuck up you dumb bitch
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>>146650591
shit art
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>>146650667
>Sakura/KeroQ
>shit art
this world is truly lost. I won't even tell you to off yourself maybe I'm the intruder here
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>>146651473
the fuck is wrong with their eyes
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>>146651473
>Sakura
Every fucking time, Jesus. Kys autocorrect
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>>146651473
I like KeroQ art in general but some of Inugami's work in SakuUta has no excuse.
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>>146651473
>le eye over invisible hair art
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>>146651947
Is this one more to your liking?
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>>146652202
She's crazy cute.
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>>146652202
I prefer the hair-slightly-less-opaque-but-not-invisible approach.
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>>146652324
iffy gives me a stiffy
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>>146611236
160 or 158
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>>146652937
160cm is the hottest one. 164 has weird legs kind of ass-less idk. 158 is solid too but looks very childlike so 160 it is
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>>146611236
124>148>160>143>158>164>114
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>>146653593
Arrest him!
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>>146653719
They're all consenting adults. It says so on the package.
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>>146653719
They're all 18 years old.
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>>146654129
>>146654305
Okay, pedophiles, down. Big Bubba will give you your bone soon enough.
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Anyone know how to make the text not look like shit in Grisaia Unrated edition? All I can find on google is to change the game resolution the the default 1024x576 which I don't want to do.
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>>146640525
It looks cute so I will get it once it comes out. The goal has been reached anyway.
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What Tsukihime games/routes allow me to see the twins lez out?
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>>146658419
Kagetsu Tohya. No point in reading though unless you already read Tsukihime.
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It's true that I killed my Mentor... and yet, I am not his murderer.
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>>146629393
I fulfill all those requirements and I still find it impossible to self-insert as moege protagonists. They're like weird autistic aliens vaguely imitating human behaviour.
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>>146658773
Little Busters is a bit more profound but it has truly terrible pacing, so I dunno.
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>>146659130
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>>146659130
Then you should try My Girlfriend is the President.
you might just find it more appealing due to weird autistic aliens vaguely imitating human behavior..
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Can I just skip the lacrosse arc in Muv-Luv Extra? This is so boring.
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>>146660807
Sure.
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>>146661183
I normally hate skipping. For how long does it go on for? Will I miss anything significant either to this game or the others by skipping it?
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>>146661254
just skip extra.
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>>146661345
But other than lacrosse I'm enjoying it immensely
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>>146661386
Then skip the lacrosse senpai, nothing important really happens besides a few side appearances
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>>146661485
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Time to finish this game and forget it ever existed.
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Bitch can't believe my mad puzzle skillz (this term is used in the game)
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>>146585691
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>>146662618
Season 2 never
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These girls are so boring.
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So um in the end who the fuck was Yaga?
What happened she clashed with Tokimi?

And what the fuck is with the everybody gets revived ending
>>
At least it's something.
>>
Is Mangagamer a good company and worth supporting? I'm trying to decide whether I should buy a hardocover of a VN I pirated and liked, but it's so fucking expensive
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>>146662201
Why are you forcing yourself trough it? Just go look at the CGs from the respective games and be done with it.
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>>146663965
Yes.
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>>146663965
if you like something enough you should support it
unless it's a OELVN
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>>146663648
Yaga is an Eternal, which are more like gods than the actual gods in the setting. I'm not sure, but it seems like she's not associated with either of the two main groups of Eternals because it sounds like all she does is obsessively eat things, a trait that was worsened by her corruption.

Tokimi can see the future, so there's basically no reason she would ever get into a fight she can't walk away from. However, as an Eternal, she doesn't have that much in the way of pure power, so she presumably just stalled Yaga until she got bored and quit.

Although it's also possible that Yaga simply ate her. Tokimi and non crazy Eternals don't go around with all their power because they can't use all of it most of the time anyway. So if she leaves 90% of her power behind somewhere and then 'dies' she respawns back where she left most of her power.
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>>146663965
They don't heavily delay or censor their content, so yes.
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>>146663965
MG is. Sekai is slowly shaping up, but still has a long way to go.
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>>146664032
I somehow ended up getting gud at it. And I don't know what else to play right now.
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>>146664249
puzzles and dragons
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>>146664249
Doom?
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>>146664421
>>146664743
I can't stay focused if there aren't any cute girls on the screen.
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>you will never have a real gf
does it get any better?
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Oh, this girl is actually pretty lovely. I would read that Innocent Girl vn for her.

>>146665290
Dumb frogposter
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>>146665290
you wont if you dont look for one.
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>>146665290
It isn't so great actually.
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>>146665880
work at it till it becomes great. Its up to you to make it all lovey dovey like our pornographic chinese powerpoints.
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>tfw I'll never learn Japanese and just shitpost here in between worthwhile releases
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>>146664249

Undertale

or start learning Japanese
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Damn. Those are some fine tatas.
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>>146667719
Why is Amane so smug there?
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>>146667956
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
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>>146668074
Never pretend to be me or my son ever again.
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>>146668245
god damn, i want to stuff my face between those cheeks and motorboat the fuck outta DAT ass.
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>>146668245
Never reply to me contributing to the fucking thread again.
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>>146668245
>shiny plastic skin
I hate this meme
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>>146668551
>he doesn't fuck dolls
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>>146665290
I feel you brah.
I feel you deep, deep inside.
Yeah.
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And done, finally.
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At least we can trust in-house FW translations. The translation was one of the few good things about it.
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>>146670838
Congratulations?
Did it quell the roaring emptiness inside of you?
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>>146671081
No, I have heroin for that.
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>>146671276
>tfw your roaring emptiness takes the shape of a Dragon Dildo
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>>146670838

Time to begin learning Japanese.
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>>146671879
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>>146672402
日本語は難しいじゃない! nihongo ha easy desu
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>>146672887
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>>146673993
>that Mami in the background
She's so hot, man. That towel scene in the movie was pure gold. aaahhi
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So in a drunken state last evening I purchased all the Nekopara games on steam. Do they need restoration patches to get the lewd back? If so where could I find such patches? I looked on sukebei and couldn't find anything.
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>>146674605
>I purchased all the Nekopara games on steam
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>>146674746
I was intoxicated, I recognize I have made a mistake. I am trying to correct said mistake.
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>>146674878
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Nekopara+patch
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>>146674878
You have to purchase the restoration patches. The ones on Nyaa already have them included.
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>>146674605
Always buy stuff directly from the publishers!
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>>146674878
Refund and buy from the publisher you braindead ape

>drinking alcohol
>ever
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>>146676036
A cold beer on a warm summer night while reading VNs is pretty fucking top notch.
I heartily recommend it.
However if you just want to get drunk, cheap vodka is the best and the hangover is less than from darker spirits like whisky or bourbon.
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>>146676036
I've only drank once but it was pretty cool. that was last year with my friends from the army. Since I've no friends at uni I never drank anymore :(
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>>146677052
>>146677236
No young people with hope allowed.
Even if it is summer.
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>>146677636
Nice blog.
Where can I subscribe ;)
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>>146677456
>>146677636
Jesus guys. Do something while it's time! At the very least hire a hooker...
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Subahibi when?

Also fuck moogy
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>>146677836
my wife's daughter
ftfy
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>>146678047
Never reply to me or my ex-wife's fucktoy's offspring ever again.
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>>146678232
>implying your ex-wife wasn't the fucktoy
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>>146678013
It ain't coming anytime soon... moogy jumped the gun and announced it too early. I recommend you learning nihongo just like I'm doing jaa ne
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>>146674605
Vol 0 has no H and the other 2 have patches you can find online and apply to your steam copies
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>>146678405
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Do you gents have any idea why Kamidori wouldn't run? Animations take a fuckload of time to finish and the game boots in like 3 min because the opening lags. I've been trying to get this to work for like 4 hours now but nobody on the net seems to have had this problem before.
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I'm having majimeme withdrawals

post qt majikois
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>>146679896
Is this good or what?
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>>146680398
Fun and interesting characters, great interaction between main casts and the side characters, many cute girls. Just don't expect too much of the story.
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>>146680078
I'm on 8 actually, I remember it worked just fine on 7. When I got a new laptop it came with 8 and I couldn't be arsed to get 7 back.
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>>146680868
VNs are ALL terrible. I cant believe people reading VN and critic about the story Jesus what low IQ subhuman cuck. Read an actual novel
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>>146680398
the interaction between the characters alone makes the entire visual novel worth experiencing.
"Oh Wanko, it looks like somebody is trying to steal your man"
"BARK BARK BARK, GRRR"
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>>146681054
Sounds awful
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>>146681054
>"Oh Wanko, it looks like somebody is trying to steal your man"
>"BARK BARK BARK, GRRR"

I'll pass dude, that alone sounds pretty cringeworthy.
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>>146680860
You might be trying to run it in compatibility mode or somethin'. I had the same issue with Bunny Black because apparently the game automatically set the compatibility mode to XP or somethin', once I disabled that it ran perfectly smooth.
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>>146680398
not really no.
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>>146681151
>>146681193
That's the fucking joke.
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>>146681385
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>>146681385
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>>146681028
Sorry I meant 8.1, I didn't think anybody would have standard 8 anymore.
>>146681205
I was running it compat mode with 7, disabled that and the animations are still incredibly slow. Like the game hangs up if you attack something.
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>>146677456
I swore off sex and female companionship years ago when I gave up 3D out of disgust and loathing. Now I just read VNs and play D&D. It's a better life.
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I'm sure they really struck the fear of God into peoples' hearts with this.
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>>146682087
>That passive aggressive notice at the beginning that warns people against internet piracy
Jews.
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>>146682087
I'd buy it if it weren't so goddamn expensive to import.
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>>146682056
Me too.
Except I play roguelikes and now that it's summer I go fishing.
2D is way better than 3DPD could ever hope to be.
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>>146682184

Osadai also had a similar message near the beginning of the game. I thought it was hilarious.
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Reminder if you buy visual novels you are supporting the jap jew and are literally commie traitor scum
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>>146682410
that ass was fat.
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Damn those curves are pretty nice.
Too bad I have to stop before the first h-scene because I already masturbated.
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>>146683728
I wanted the girl with scars on her head. Not the ugly loli .
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i was away for a few days and i heard this general almost died? what the fuck did you JOPs do..
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>>146567084
>Japanese visual novels.
fucking hell, this is what happens if I'm not here, the general fucking almost fell to its death
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>>146683832
If you mean Ageha I think she's already in an earlier game from the same developer so never ever in majikoi.

>>146683847
They're chronically anal-pained about everything because they made a fun masturbatory-aide into a job.
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>>146684078
not taking your bait faggot, fuck off
i'm taking this general back to the EOPs
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>>146684078
The OP should reflect the board rules that state that only translated titles should be discussed here.
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>>146683728
You fap at every single sex scene?
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see guys, if you let the JOPs roam and trample on this general, IT WILL DIE

>>146684234
fuck off
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Why is dracu riot so good
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>>146684341
has it been fully translated yet? i wasn't aware

>>146684378
fuck off
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>>146683847
>>146684013
>>146684146
>whining about JOPs
You're wasting your time. The anti-JOP janny we had is dead so just have to deal with the nihongo spouting nitwits that have decided to come here instead of /jp/.

>>146684287
I'm fairly certain everybody who actually read VNs doesn't post in the thread anymore. And the folks who do probably are new and haven''t realized that the general is crap, or are here to shitpost along with the rest of us.
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>>146684439
>You're wasting your time. The anti-JOP janny we had is dead so just have to deal with the nihongo spouting nitwits that have decided to come here instead of /jp/.
the reason this happened was because i was away and busy, only if i had time to control these autists, i would

>>146684518
fuck off
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>>146684424
All but red haired slut
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>>146684650
wew lad, hopefully that oxford comma translation group gets finished soon, i actually thought it was finished

>>146684746
fuck off
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>>146684439
JOPs are the only ones who can save this thread. there are literally no translated VNs to discuss
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>>146683847

You should be blaming the EOPs, actually.

A new EVN called Valhalla came out that's apparently pretty good, it even has its own general.
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>>146685052
from what i can see from the past few threads, there have had been lots of Japanese shitposting lately, no wonder people would stop posting,
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Is there a VN where you're a janitor?
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>>146685269
In Grisaia you're supposedly a Janitor, so that might count.
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>>146684341
>reading partials
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>>146685547
I only read 1-2 routes anyways, so it doesn't bother me
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>>146685000
>there are literally no translated VNs to discuss
weren't there a few releases like Labyrinth of Grisaia (fucking all-ages version tho)
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>>146685602
That's the same as no release at all, kusoge.
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>>146685602
He probably meant good Vns
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>>146685602
Yeah, I'll certainly masturbate it when the adult version comes out.
Also Majikoi A-1 is pretty recent.
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>>146685730
>>146685756
tru, what about Majikoi A-1?
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>>146685602
It looks like a lot of people including myself are waiting for the 18+ version. No sense in reading the butchered version now.
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>>146685826
Kusoge.
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My lifelong dream has been to refer to myself with the Royal We.
Alas, I've always been too much of a boner to pull it off.
At least in S and now I can self-insert as the little girl while also making my lifelong dream come true.
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>>146685052

Also, don't forget about the lack of notable English releases recently (Grisaia is shit + censored and didn't even spawn any discussion, Purino Party is also shit)

It's not surprising the thread is dead
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>>146685602
not much to discuss really, since half the thing's fanservice which is pointless without the H, and there's an adaptation of the other half even if it was shit
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>>146685000

trips confirms it

We'll be together forever
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>>146686158
Well a Nekopara thread on /v/ just had 102 IPs before dying so don't worry, I'm sure we'll be getting some summer kiddies here as well.
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>not tv tropes page
>not even a mention on Wikipedia
>no faq to guide players through the various routes

This is easily the most underrated game of any sort I've ever played. It's like it doesn't exist, but in terms of raising sims in the vain of Princess Maker, it impressed me far more than the less obscure game, Cute Knight, which I had played prior to it. Just great music, production value, and characterization all around. Why don't more people know about this?
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>>146685602
what would you discuss?
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>>146686794
We talked about it a lot on release. It no longer is its release. That's all.

It's hardly obscure or underrated; it has over 300 votes on vndb.
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>>146686794
Shit art and and an unfun dice rolling simulator
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>>146686761
I think they're already here we have 78. The highest I've seen before was like 40
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>>146686794
Too much shitposting about the art style whenever it's brought up.
Same thing with Period and Quartett! both of which are decent.
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>>146684027
Saying she was in an earlier game is pretty meaningless though. You couldn't even call her a subheroine let alone an actual heroine. She had no route, no sex scenes, no hint at reciprocation for the mild crush she only developed in I think one or two routes, nothing. She doesn't even refer to the guy once in any Majikoi release that I'm aware of.
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>>146686794
Yeah I sometimes put together VN pages on tvtropes but I hate Littlewitch art. So that's why it has no page there.
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>>146687219
But the rabid japanese fans of the first game would still burn down the country and good chunks of Korea, China and Russia if she had a sex scene in another series.
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>disliking god-tier forehead art
Get some taste, people.
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>>146687060
>>146687363
t. people with shit taste who probably like Grisaia
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>>146687427
Fuck no, they'd probably put on a parade if Ageha got her tits out.

Well, they would if they ever went outside.
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>>146687538
But it has to be a country-wide conspiracy at this point to keep her unsullied.
I heard from a reliable source that it's going to be a major talking point during the next election cycle.
They also implied it reaches all the way up to the Emperor who is a huge Ageha-fan.
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>>146687439
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>>146687886
Yep, sounds legit. That or Minatosoft hates money.
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>>146687968
I really hate this animation style
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>>146688026
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got a question about ikikoi
is there a no gf route?
i checked a walkthrough out of curiosity to see if i was heading towards the girl i was hoping for, but it seems i haven't picked perfectly for anyone.
will i just get a shit route, or do i get the one most compatible with my choices?
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>>146688712
>will i just get a shit route
Probably Ryou's
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>>146688867
brilliant
thanks
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Damn that's hot.
Too bad every girl in Majikoi becomes subservient to the dick after the receival.
Except Tsubame I think had a more dom route in S.
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>>146689125
>Too bad every girl in Majikoi becomes subservient to the dick after the receival.
is there any route in any VN where this isn't true? i just want some femdom for once
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>>146689407
Ikikoi.
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>>146689407
Starless and Bible Black
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>>146689514
>tfw your little sister will never crush your dick and throw clocks at it
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>>146689580
but those have other shitty fetishes getting in the way
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>>146689580
>>146689840
>Starless

Yeah this is something I'd not touch with a five foot pole but this is the one that came to mind first.
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Don't talk shit about Oyari.
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>>146690294
I will and you can't stop me.
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>>146690294
Eiyuu Senkis art is fucking hot, too bad the game is shit.

Do you know if Oyari is working on something new? He hasn't released an eroge in 2 years
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>>146691048
Gold is alright.

And Oyari is doing some crowd funding shit right now for a non-H game or smth.
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>>146691048
I don't know. You can always check his twitter, I don't know jap.
https://twitter.com/oyariashito
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I'm loli.
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>>146691236
This is it I think.
https://enty.jp/machine_child
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>>146689840
why not just skip the parts with fetishes you don't like ?
it's not like they're that invasive, in starless at least
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>>146685052
Yeah, VA11 HALL-A is pretty good. You should buy it.
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>>146691627
Wow what the fuck happened? He got rid off the foreheads and coloring and made his art generic moege tier.

I lost my respect for him.
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>>146691942
>him
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>>146691942
The foreheads are still there, but they're just covered up by hair now.
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>>146691942
>make characters look less ayylium
>bad
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hey
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>>146693424
uhhh police???
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>>146693424
I'm going to need sources m8

>>146693534
police wont be needed
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>>146693534
she told me she was 9 officer, I swear
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>>146689125
And Tsubame is garbage.
>>146689407
Shinra's route in Kimiaru, I suppose? It's domdomdomdom and then a sex scene where she almost succumbs to the power of dick but then says no, it would be out of character and goes back to being Shinra.
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506th for Saber.
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>best girl
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>>146694296
508th for shitpost.
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What are some VNs you can't read?
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>>146694803
Aiyoku no Eustia.
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>>146694803

アンダーテール
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>>146694803
SeaBed
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>>146694803
saya no uta
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>>146694803
Saihate no Ima.
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What did he mean by this?
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So in majikoi S, since that's sequel, is childhood route as canon as agave route? or it's just bonus?
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>>146696013
He means he sees censorship, jewing, bullying and constant whining as "doing things differently"
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>>146696013
Thanks Dovac. I'm looking forward to more censored versions of ero games.
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>>146696013
I wonder what happened this time
still, OELVNs are a mistake
also I don't know what kind of people would read VNs on a console
but then I am kind of interested in Root Letter
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>>146696013
Thanks Dovac, can't wait for Koiken Otome.
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>>146695271
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>>146696521
>I don't know what kind of people would read VNs on a console

??
people just like you and me
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>>146694410
wow this isn't 2012 anymore, son
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>>146696013
Does that bottom tweet pretty much confirm one of the close to done fan TLs will be announced at AX?
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>>146696594
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>>146609598
Source? I just need the HCG if it's shit.
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>>146696013
As a fan translator myself Dovac is retarded. We don't do it for money.
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>>146696013
If the VN market exists then it must be pretty damn weak if paying fan translators "above market value" makes the VN not turn a profit. That sounds floundering to me.
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>>146696173
Ehhh, I wouldn't say any of the Majikoi routes are really canon.
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>>146696013
Is he implying that the VN market would be significantly different without him? I suppose in the sense of less censored games, it would be, but Dovac, please, you people were hardly the first to license games for western release. You just happen to be the worst at it.

Perhaps you guys are bleeding money because of your absolutely retarded business practices and should improve yourselves.
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>>146696820
>We

Well, clearly some fan translators accepted to be paid for their translations.

And on that note, you'd have to be a cretin to see a problem with this.
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>>146696013
Was G-senjou the one where Dovac hiked up the price and then had the voices be buyable DLC? It's no wonder people stayed away from that one.
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>>146696787
>he can't read that
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>>146696013
Give them the truth, Dovac! Without Sekai Pro's the biggest titles wouldn't be officially available in the west and it indirectly includes Muv Luv. Keep bossing
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>>146696994
No one does it for money unless they approach a translation and put a patreon out there from the get-go or something similar.

A fan translator getting paid further down the line doesn't imply that the initial goal was for monetary purposes. I personally translate so that a larger audience can read a title I enjoy, and so I may improve my grasp of both languages.

Personally though I don't think I would accept a proposition from Sekai. I wouldn't feel comfortable knowing that content I had already worked hard on translating would be likely to be censored.
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>>146696885
I assumed Agave route as canon because I thought majikoi S is continuity story after Agave route based on synopsis, or I was wrong?
It took a place after prequel, and agave route was best setting for continuity.
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>>146686135
Does that maid of his ever get any lewd showtime?
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>>146697392
Namedrop yourself! I wish to know who you are!
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>>146696013
>cuck people out of fan translations
>take absolutely forever to release a title, often lying about release dates
>censor content just so you can put it on steam
>hurr why does everyone hate us ;_;

>>146697309
too bad all of the sekai's "projects" are titles that we would have had without them or had already read years ago
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>>146697445
Yes she has a route in A-1 which just got released
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>>146696013
Ill be honest, I dont really hate them or Dovac I just want to see fruits from their labor or the many projects that they have picked up.

If they want to milk the steam market thats fine, as long as there is a full version somewhere for the rest of the fanbase.

Also couldn't care less about the lolicon shit that many of you seem to sperg about.
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>>146697520
adam
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>>146697605
Cheers for the reply.
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>>146697392
And I admire that resolution if you decide to stick to it, but not everyone thinks like you.

>>146697576
>cuck people out of fan translations
Fan translators accepted their money though. This is not a case where one single person can be blamed.
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>>146697632
t. Dovac
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>>146697727
nah.

He has a point about showing Japanese developers that there is a market here. Rail him however you like, but for that alone credit is given where credit is due.
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>>146696013
stellar PR from SP as usual

i wonder why they're doing so poorly... really makes you think (not)
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>>146697576
Yes we've already read them but now you're able to say "here Key there's your 10 bucks for Clannad" that's an awesome thing
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>>146698075
>that's an awesome thing
Unfortunately it also means giving money to SP.
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>>146697842
>hey jap devs, there us a market here, you will only need to remove all the ero, because we don't like that gross stuff here.
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>barely any hype for House in Fata Morgana
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>>146698229
you mean the fandisk?
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>>146697406
Agave has an after story, but it's mostly just Tatsuko's route or a quasi harem ending. All the other main girls get after stories of their own, plus four other main routes including ones for Margit and Kokoro. Then you get Majikoi A with more routes including after stories for S heroines.

So just pick your favorite ending.
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>>146696994
Well, I got an offer to TL a pretty short nukige for $1,000 (probably would have only taken 2 months of translating a couple hours a day) but I still declined simply because I didn't want to spend the couple hundred of hours working on something I didn't feel too much passion for and wouldn't feel excitement about spreading to the English community. Working with passion for money is what jobs are for, and as a *fan* translator, this isn't my job.

That said, if someone offered me $1,000 for a TL after I finished it I'd be glad to take it xD
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>>146697632
personally I don't even know why people are complaining about stuff like censorship when Grisaia was probably ported from the Vita, although it would definitely be a waste to only localize an all ages version of some other VN
still, I have yet to see an OELVN that is worth spending money on
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>>146698190
Needn't worry about that. Mangagamer&Jast will never abandon us. MG will give us the hero Rance we need and J will give the fucked up eros we grave
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>>146698471
だろう? xD
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>>146697632
If you're going to release something that debuted with erotic or grotesque content, without any of it, I'm not going to buy it.
Why would I as a consumer willingly purchase an inferior version of a product, when I can get the superior version for FREE.

I want my god damn content as the original creators themselves intended it, this applies to movies, art, games, porn.
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>>146698516
they are complaining that there is no 18+ version available, which means they either should have waited till the full version was done, or port the PC version and remove and change necessary things to sell on steam.

There was a PC version of the sequels right? Why did they chose to port from the vita?
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>>146698229
suprised this meme isnt about grisaia now
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>>146698471
>only a 1000 dollars
dude you are shortselling yourself

if you poorfags would just refuse to take that lowball shit everyone would make more money
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>>146698708
You are right, and im not saying that Dovac is right or wrong. As long as there is an alternative to a steam version im ok with whatever censorship he decides to do.
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>>146698762
Why would people be hyped about kusoge?
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>>146698762
>wanting hype for an all ages version
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>>146698708
you know the original creators would probably jump at a chance to earn more money and that they probably have permission in most cases, at least we aren't talking about Nintendo-tier here
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>>146698865
Well, it was a commission from an anonymous individual, not a company. I hardly think random dudes with saved up money are determining wages for translators. And naturally, refusing lowball prices is well and good, but highball offers don't grow on trees.
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Can anyone upload the Fata Morgana OST? I'm tired of going to youtube every time.
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>>146698865
Yeah, that's pretty damn low pay, especially if you're doing it all yourself.
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>>146699071
Only reason I backed the Muv-luv kickstarter was because the devs confirmed a patch would be released to re-add all the removed content.
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>>146699071
Grisaia was certainly handled in a nintendo tier fashion since scenes outside of H were also censored.
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>>146699769
>you're forced to use steam

my #1 reason to pirate all their titles
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>>146699757
I thought that could just be CERO due to it being a vita port, they do get away with suggestive CGs
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>>146698865

yes, that's pretty horrible

even I used to charge $10-20/hr for RuneScape bot scripts
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>>146696013
why the actual fuck would anyone want a console port of a VN anyway when you don't need a good computer at all to run them
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>>146696013
>we paid above market value to the fan translators out of respect for the work that they did

What the fuck? Is Dovac stupid? Sure, that's respectful, but you're the head of a business. You shouldn't be making emotional business decisions like that. Don't cry to us that you guys are bleeding money with retarded decisions like that.
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>>146700659
I bet this is how he approaches paying the original creators as well.

>O-ok heres money
>Uh, are you sure? This is quite above what we're expecting you to pay us
>O-oh... b-but I like your game
>Sorry?
>I-i said I like game. So money here is.
>Uh, alright. Whatever you want.
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>>146700659
well it does make them look good in the eyes of other translators so there's that
doesn't sound as stupid as trying to make back the money through post-kickstarter sales
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>>146700858
kek
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>>146700858
>Uh, are you sure? This is quite above what we're expecting you to pay us
implying jews like frontwing don't demand double the amount the localization company offers them
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>>146701402
Nice job missing the joke, ESL.
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>>146701723
Give this nigh dead thread a reason to exist besides shitposting and explain it to me then
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Any vn's you play a likable evil dude like Darx in Bunny Black?
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>>146702721
>like darx
>not like rance
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>>146702839
Rance is an overgrown baby, though.
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Why are visual novels so expensive in Japan?
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>>146702721
https://vndb.org/v13881
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>>146702721
Only other one that comes immediately to mind is Rance.

I suppose SnK and G-Senjou both have protagonists which lean more towards amorality.
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>>146703046
Buyers sell to second hand shops and get half the money back.
But really, its all about exploiting the very small market that exists.
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dovac posted this

Obviously a few trolls mixed in but
>Koiken Otome
kek
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Why didn't you save her?
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>>146703181
>(no one's going to win BTW)
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>>146703181
I would eat my shit is Evenicle gets picked up by MG.
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>>146703046
tokutens, tokutens everywhere
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>>146702839
Rance isn't evil though
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>>146703456
He rapes women, the MOST evil crime any man commit.
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>>146703456
rape is literally worse than genocide, check your privilege shitlord
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>>146703064
>SnK
What's that? Googling only brings up attack on titan shit
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>>146703970
GET OUT SUMMER
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>>146703970
A typo for SnU, he meant Sakura no Uta
Sharin no Kuni
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>>146703970
Sharin no Kuni. Another Looseboy VN.
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>>146703046

The demand curve for VNs is very inelastic; hardcore fans/whales like Chuee will buy them even if they are expensive.
They are also often bundled with physical goods that the aforementioned whales want anyway, which then raises the prices further.

Also because of >>146703116
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>>146703116
I thought japan had a huge otaku market
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>>146705703
huge compared to everywhere else in the world, probably still small compared to all the normies
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>>146705703
The VN isn't that big in Japan either I'm not really well versed in the topic but I know the general sales have reduced a lot. Maybe that's why the japanese are reaching out for the western fans more now
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>>146703181
>these are going to get translated
oh damn, I guess it's time to stop learning jap.
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>>146703059
>no sexual content
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>>146707027
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>>146706101
>smegma
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So is Sekai picking up Koiken Otome or not? I just want to see the tears.
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>>146706101
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What's a good hidden gem for VNs? I can read japanese so don't hold back.
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>>146707519
Kurai Heya
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Why is this general full of cancerous moege memers?

Where should I go to partake in intellectual plotge discussion? I feel uncomfortable around simpletons like you.
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>>146707893
There aren't any good translated plotge, so you know what to do.
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>>146707519
>le hidden gem xDD
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>>146708025
You can talk about the non-translated ones too...
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>>146707893
Go check out the Grisaia general.
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>>146707893
Name one good plotge that isn't swan song

you can't
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>>146708306
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>>146707893
create a post on reddit.
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>>146708191
link?
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>>146703181
>Bingo
>not an even number of rows and columns
You could at least try a little harder.
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>>146708306
Tokyo Babel, Fata Morgana and Root Double

and that was just this year
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>>146708623
All mindless garbage.
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>>146708623
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>>146708676
>>146708825
See? Simpletons, as I rightfully stated.
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>>146708306

Undertale
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>>146708945
Nah, if I'm going to read something as retarded as those VNs I might as well read a moege.
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>>146708623

I'm still mad having wasted money on Root Double. I liked ever17 and never11. I really liked 999. The story of VLR was fine though I hated the "game-design" (essentially tons of "coffin endings" which 999 had one and people already hated that)

But Root Double? It didn't take long to make me feel like I'm reading shit. The garbage editing also didn't help. Kinda wanna go back to it at some point, but damn. No wonder this shit flopped.
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>>146707893
The lure of moege is too strong. Even if it's mostly shit, there's always the hope to finally find a route with long satisfying romantic buildup with a perfect waifu and feels at the end.
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>>146708164
What did he mean by this?
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>>146683832
>not the ugly loli

Anon...
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>>146709403
The VN goes to shit after Root A anyways. You're not missing much.
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Am I correct in assuming there has been no good plotge translated in the last three years or so?
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>>146709825
Disgusting
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>>146710140
Grisaia and its sequel are good.
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>>146709825
I don't get it
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>>146710210
I agree, Tom Cruise is a wreck.
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>>146710247
lmao
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>>146707893
Moege are inferior to plotge in terms of writing and story progression and all the other good litterature related stuff, but its simple lighthearted appeal is strong. Its cheerful, fun to read, and can be funny as well as have emotional moments.

Dont hate on Moege. If it aint for you, just move along but dont devalue its place in the VN world.
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>>146710247
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>>146710140
I went through Marunomi for the plot. Seriously, if the plot hadn't been as unexpected as it was, i'd have dropped it 30 minutes in.
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>>146710451
Plotge is just books for the mentally deficient weebs.

Moege are actually something original and has its own value.
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>>146710509
saved
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>>146710620
>Moege are actually something original
God, that's some pretty good bait.

Either way, some moege can be good, some plotge can be good. People have different tastes.
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>>146710620
>>146710451
Moege with some decent plotge is the best, especially when some routes shine.

It also helps if the voicework is good, such as screaming and sobbing, something written text on its own can't accomplish. Pic related!
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>>146710620

cute girls and plotge aren't mutually exclusive
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I laugh at moege losers. Why can't you read something good like Fate/stay night?
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>>146711008
I watched the anime so there is no need to read it.
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>>146710867
The screaming and sobbing in virgin roster was the best. My favourite moege by far
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>>146711008
Fate/stay night was so fucking boring but I still forced myself to complete all 3 routes as well as Fate/hollow ataraxia because I'm autistic
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>>146711339
>not just downloading a 100% save for the H scenes like me

pleb
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>>146711769
>Nasu H-Scene

LOL
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>>146711824
>that rider scene
I pulled on it so hard I ripped the skin
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>>146711943
You should've used someone elses mouth.
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>>146711769
or you could just go to Red Lobster
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>>146711008
Second that. Good stuff like F/SN and G-senjou no Maou is far in between...
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>>146711008
>good like Fate/stay night?
>good
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>>146712242
I don't get this meme
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>there will never be an eroge better than YMK
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>>146712363
>there will never be an eroge better than crescendo
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>>146712363
YMK was average in the most literal term
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>>146712589
>>146712537
Did I fucking stutter?
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>>146712638
Did I?

Its bad.
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>>146707375
This actually looks pretty hot. the game's named after Haruka but this Narika girl is much hotter
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>>146712720
There will never, EVER be an eroge better than YMK. Face it.
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>>146712840
Face this

*whips out cock*
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>>146712761
Narika a cute man.
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>>146712840
>my opinion is law
:^)
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>>146713087
>>146712840
How about we bet your ass
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Alright, I get that I'm a EOP and all that jazz, but can someone explain the difference between Onii-chan/Nee-san/Aniki/etc
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>>146713441
fuck off summer
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>>146713441
is your google broken?

come on man...
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>>146713441
get out
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>>146713441
Different formaities.

Aniki = bro.
Nee-san = formal-ish.
Onii-chan = very informal.
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I love moege
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>>146713709
I too enjoyed My Girlfriend is the President.
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>>146713709
Welcome to the club anon. I realize your post is meant to trigger responses, but I want you to know there is nothing wrong with liking Moege.
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What are your favourite moege?
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>>146714128
Clannad: Tomoyo After.
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>>146714128
Katawa Shoujo
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>>146713709
Moege are good for the soul.

>>146714128
Koirizo for bringing me back to VNs after 3 years.
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>>146714273
>>146714327
those are nakige
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>>146714128

Osadai
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>>146714128
Honestly Osadai. Its whacky and fun and once you enter a route it switches over to pure unadulterated diabeetus.
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>>146714128
How do we define a moege anyway?

Well, whatever, I guess I'll go with If My Heart Had Wings. It doesn't really have very strong competition and is one of the few I'd actually feel like rereading. I even checked out the fandisk, though I more or less quit after Kanako.
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I hate moege
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Moege are my life
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>>146714438
What is nakige?
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>>146714997
There's no solid definition, but it helps to consider a moege that's built around dating girls and feeling emotional satisfaction thereof. "Clannad" wouldn't be considered a moege because it tries to make you cry with significant, tearjerking drama.
>>146715215
naki = crying
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Lads, what is the most heart-wrenching nakige/utsuge you've ever played, lads? I'm new to this, I need direction to feel empty inside.
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>>146715215
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nakige
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>>146715265
Saya no Uta, or Tomoyo After. Both have really shitty endings, and I mean that in a good way.
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>>146715265
Euphoria.
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>>146715265
Swan Song and Family Project are the most realistic.

The rest have a lot of manufactured drama. But that can still work if you like the characters enough.
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>>146715254
Sure, I just think the line between what people call a moege and what isn't is kind of blurry with the reasons for excluding or including something seeming kind of arbitrary at points. Like my gut says that Majikoi is not a moege but I couldn't tell you why, even for the numerous routes (fandisk included) that don't bother with fighting or angsty crap.
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>>146715265
Planetarian
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Anyone going to visit SP's booth at AX?
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>>146715590
It'd be called a charage since the focus is on character interaction more than just dating but yeah that line is arbitrary. No need to think too hard about it, no one is sweating it.
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Does /vn/ read otome?
Picked this up and it's quite fun read.

>>146715840
Will they sell 18+ game on their booth?
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>>146715590
That's because majikoi is fucking dumb
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>>146715971
it's the only way to get them
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>>146715345
>>146715356
>>146715423
>>146715645
Thanks, friends, I'll check them out. Hopefully I'll finally get depressed enough to end it.
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>>146715984
You're dumb.
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>>146717130
Kazuko is for high impact sexual violence, unfortunately none of that high impact sexual violence is butt stuff.
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>>146717858
>Yamato goes on about how anal is the best 24/7
>Rarely actually fucks his girls in the butt
I was pretty bothered by this
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>>146717954
>Yuki with DAT ass
>no anal scenes
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>>146718079
yuki has plenty of anal, miyako has some as well. I don't think any of the other girls do though.
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>>146718383

All of the main girls have anal scenes according to VNDB.
I know Chris' first scene had anal, dunno if any of Kazuko's in the first game are.
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>>146718383
She did? I cant remember a single scene
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>>146718079
>>146718383
A lot of the anal scenes in Majikoi are conveniently angled where you can't see the butthole, so it's probably kind of easy to miss unless you're, y'know, paying attention to the dialogue I suppose.

I get the feeling the artist doesn't like to draw anal scenes.
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>>146718383
I'm not sure about S but I'm pretty sure Yukie only had 1 anal scene in the original. I specifically remember it being the after story H scene.
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>>146719648
>>146718709
>>146718785
Yuki had 1 in the original, 1 or 2 in S, Miyako had 1 in S and 0 in the original. I haven't gone through chris's or momoyo's routes yet.
I haven't seen Kazuko have a single one.
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>>146567084
>Read Kajitsu
>Most of Mitcher's stupidity and tsundere attitude is just an act
>She actually possesses a pretty high EQ and does a lot of things in the background to keep the group dynamics working

>Watch Meikyuu and Rakuen
>Mitcher gets turned into a dumb bimbo who does stupid shit like attend an elementary school for a week before realizing something is wrong
>All of those subtle implications of her strong emotional intelligence are retconned to be purely luck or circumstance

What the FUCK?
Are the VNs like this too?
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>>146721268
>does stupid shit like attend an elementary school for a week before realizing something is wrong

Now that's comedy.
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>>146714273
>Tomoyo After
>Canon bad end where you get brain cancer and die because you romanced worst girl

>Moege
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>>146721597
>ALL of the bad endings are happier AND better endings than the official ending
Real talk, that shit still leaves a profound impact on me.
>>
So after seeing it on steam I've come to you all to ask for what to do, and in a quick scan the correct answer is to not buy Labyrinth of Grisaia and just to pirate it? Is the translation a even a good one? Sounds like they've cut stuff but I don't really follow this sort of thing.

Well, I mean I followed Altered Fable translation but that seems to have been dead for awhile. Or was that something they would get to eventually in that kickstarter they did?
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>>146721850
Maybe someone at KEY was a Nagisafag and sabotaged the true end.
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>>146721982
If you're patient I'd just wait for the 18+ version. Might be a few months though
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what type of ge is Yume Miru Kusuri classified as?
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>>146722456
its a charage
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>>146722456
>Translated VN
Kusoge.
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>>146722456
It's been years but it almost felt like a nukige from how much sex was just needlessly crammed in.
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>>146722067
Alright. From reading the thread I feel like I shouldn't buy it on the basis that sekai project is a developer you shouldn't support like, say, digital extremes? Or something? I dunno people seem upset.
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>>146722689
at least digital extremes isn't afraid to show some blood, gore, and profanity.
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>>146722689
Sekai Project isn't worth supporting, yes.
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>>146721982
The translation is good. But it's a censored release. Not just H scenes were removed, but other content as well.

Personally I dislike Sekai for their business practices but if you want to purchase it it's up to you. I'd wait for the 18+ patch though, which they will probably have the gall to charge an additional 10 dollars for.
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>>146723424
>but other content as well.
Like?
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>>146723563
Lewd jokes confirmed to be censored.
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>>146723563
Scenes with perverted jokes and such.
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>>146721268
You forgot to mention

>the other girl in her head is retconed into a delusion

Don't even fucking bother with the rest of the series. Just don't.
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>>146723628
>>146723634
>>146723563
Are they 4kids or something

>>146723645
So Grisaia peaked with its first outing? That kind of sucks.
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>>146723807
Yeah, the other games are retarded trash. It revolves around his SUPER SMART sister and ends in a harem.
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>>146722689
Sekai project are a bunch of fags so no don't support them.
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>>146723645
>>the other girl in her head is retconed into a delusion
How?
They literally flew to America and spoke with the mother of the dead girl?
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>>146724643
They don't give a fuck.

Retarded Mithcer = epic win = more sales.
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>>146724643
>>146723645
Spoiler tags summerfags
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>>146723807
Meikyuu is kinda okay if only because it finally gives you Yuuji's backstory.
Rakuen literally goes full retard with global conspiracies, brain uploading, super computers, pocket nukes, and gene therapy.

I have no idea how someone can fuck up a story that much.
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>>146724756
Until Seikai gets their act together, no spoilers for Grisaiashit.
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>>146724756
Nagisa dies.
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>>146724761
Did they bring in Kojima to guest write?
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>genki girl is secretly depressed
Why is this allowed?
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>>146724871
Funny you bring that up since when Rakuen was airing many people were comparing it to MGS. That's how batshit the series became after the first game.
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>>146724914
You know how comedians are frequently depressed
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>>146717954
He fucks pretty much every girl in the ass eventually though even if the majority of scenes are vaginal. Angel, Tatsuko, Momoyo, Chris, Margit, Yukie and so on. The only one I'm not sure about is Wanko but anal is kind of Yamato's thing so I assume it happened.
>>146721268
Wasn't it a middle school and for a month?
>>146723645
Yeah that one seriously bothered me. I know the heart transplant soul transplant thing made no sense but retconning it away made even less sense.
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>>146724914
because otherwise it would get old if they are happy 24/7
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>>146724914
>muh juxtaposition
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new thread

>>146725271
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>>146725061
The heart transplant soul thing is dumb in concept, but the fact that how horrifying it is to the recipient (Mitcher) and how guilty the other girl feels are what makes the route so quality and balances out the strange concept.

And then the other games flanderize the shit out of her.
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>>146725061
Wanko was the one who gave Yamato his anal fetish.

I still think she's the best match for Yamato.
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>>146725061
>I know the heart transplant soul transplant thing made no sense
Cellular memory was a real theory back in the day. It just so happened that it was debunked shortly after the game was released though, so the writers decided to half-ass a retcon...

Which is kind of stupid if you ask me since they already have tons of unrealistic shit in there like gene therapy super soldiers and brain uploading.
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>>146725445
In regards to chemistry:
Benkei > Wanko > Miyako > *

Benkei and Yamato mesh so well together it's ridiculous.
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>>146725343
>umineko- everyone is dead
There were 3 survivors.
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Migrate

>>146726007

>>146726007

>>146726007
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>>146723645
>the other girl in her head is retconed into a delusion
Not in the vn though
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